Re: [compost_tea] Re: vortex tea brewer

From: Tad Hussey <tadhussey_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:38:03 -0800 (PST)

Letitgrow69,

Please keep in mind that none of this is intended as a personal attack. Â=
 I don't see Biodynamics as quackery and think vortex brewers can work ju=
st fine for making ACT.  I think that there are more efficient options=
 for creating a diversity and concentration of microbial life (air lifts) a=
nd other methods that will provide better #'s, like our KIS design.  T=
hat being said, if you manage your inputs properly in a vortex brewer, you =
can make ACT.

I just hear a lot of claims from vortex brewers about the "potency" of wate=
r, and how "science" is fallible and we can't measure the true impacts of v=
ortex systems.

There are proven facts by "modern scientist" that a vortex creates a large =
amount of power and would spin indefinably if there was no Resistance.Â=
 


Isn't that the case with any body of mass that's put into motion?  Bas=
ic physics, right?

I would like to see something quantifiable out of the Biodynamic group. Â=
 If you followed basic Biodynamic practices but used a conventional or ai=
r lift brewer, would your plants somehow suffer for it?  I don't agree=
 with some of the more spiritual aspects of Biodynamics, but in general I t=
hink it's sound biological management practices.  I think that biodyna=
mic farmers spend more time examining their land and soil, which has a posi=
tive correlation on the quality of their crops.

Science shows us that there are better, more efficient ways of raising DO l=
evels in a liquid medium for ACT.  Since the main benefit of ACT is to=
 create nutrient cycling through a high diversity of bacteria, archaea, fun=
gi, flagellates, amoeba, and ciliates, it stands to reason that a brewing s=
ystem that incorporates an air pump and air lift would allow for a higher q=
uality tea.

There is much more to life then what we can touch smell or see. Just becaus=
e our souls are getting old enough to understand this doesn't mean it isn't=
 true. Remember there was a time when the earth was flat, you can see just =
how right those "modern Scientist" were.


This is the argument I always hear from Biodynamic growers and vortex peopl=
e.  I don't think it's a fair argument because it's totally untestable=
 and falls into the realm of mysticism.  While science isn't always ri=
ght, one great thing about it is that it keep exploring new hypothesis and =
ideas, rejecting things when they aren't supported by data or research, and=
 is able to evolve for precisely that reason.

My 2 cents,
Tad


________________________________
 From: letitgrow69 <letitgrow69_at_yahoo.com>
To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:09 AM
Subject: [compost_tea] Re: vortex tea brewer
 

 
I agree there is a lot of quackery out in the world but some of it holds tr=
ue. Everyone is trying to make a buck anyway they can. Just because they ta=
ke a good idea and exploit it does not mean there isn't any fact behind it.=
 "Modern science" can only agree with some of the facts without throwing ou=
t out years of "scientific fact". Just look at Physics for example, everyda=
y scientists are looking for new way to figure out how the world works and =
the more they dig the more they realize how little we know, and there must =
be a higher power out there controlling things because it is the only to ex=
plain it. With a vortex it is the same thing. I follow the works of Ruoldof=
 Stiner (the father of Bio-dynamics) and for string Bio-dynamic recipes vor=
tex s are great. They provide both highly energetic left spin order right t=
o chaos. There are proven facts by "modern scientist" that a vortex creates=
 a large amount of power and would spin indefinably if there was no
 Resistance. I believe as well as the entire Bio-dynamic community that thi=
s will potentize any small amount good compost into energetic life giving c=
oncoction that will then energize the land to provide healthy nutrient dens=
e foods. Many people believe this is hub bub, but just look at the humic an=
d organic matter levels on Bio-daynamic farms. They rival or exceed that st=
andard organic practices. There is much more to life then what we can touch=
  smell or see. Just because our souls are getting old enough to understand=
 this doesn't mean it isn't true. Remember there was a time when the earth =
was flat, you can see just how right those "modern Scientist" were.
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tad" <tadhussey_at_...> wrote:
>
> For those interested in reading more about the "science" behind vortexes.
> http://www.chem1.com/CQ/wonkywater.html
>
> The guy has a bit of a conversational style of writing, but I've found hi=
s information to be sound. There are many claims regarding water that don'=
t hold up under scientific scrutiny.
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "letitgrow69" <letitgrow69_at_> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have actually just made one. I am on my #rd run with it and it works =
great. I found a website http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/turbo-vorte=
x.htm. It is an old Q and A with Stephen Storch the guy behind the vortex b=
rewer you buy of $2000. I just ran across your post and wanted to respond I=
 don't have my measurements on me right now but i will find them and get ba=
ck to you. Tim.
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "grannysgt" <james.devno_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > > does anyone use a vortex tea brewer to make compost tea and if they d=
o do you have plans to be able to make the 5 gal brewer or larger.
> > > thanks
> > >
> >
>


 

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