[compost_tea] Re: The use of EM in brewer cleaning.

From: Tim Wilson <thegoodjob_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:55:08 -0000

Be aware that there are two competing companies making EM culture in the US=
A. One which is SCD is supported by Vinny Pinto (last I knew anyway) and th=
e other is EMROUSA http://www.emrousa.com and the official sales branch is =
TeraGanix http://www.teraganix.com

Although the later is condoned officially by Dr. Higa, I do not believe he =
has a hand in the running of the company (but I could be mistaken). EM is p=
roduced by Eric Lancaster (still, I believe) in Arizona, though many believ=
e, mistakenly that the product comes from Japan. Dr. Higa is not (so far as=
 I know) happy at all about the EM produced by SCD.

Steve Diver, Vinny Pinto and myself pretty much began exploring and using E=
M around the same time. I have some very old fermentations which I still us=
e internally and I ferment it to give to my dogs.

EM fermentations are probably a good choice for cleaning brewers if you wis=
h to use something stronger than water. Be aware that EM fermentations will=
 stain especially if not rinsed thoroughly immediately.

EM fermentations are very good horticultural/agricultural amendments and ar=
e worth checking out. Unfortunately it seems to me that the quality of EM c=
ulture has declined in recent years. I can no longer get the EMROUSA produc=
t and my recent fermentations have been made with SCD culture. I've noticed=
 that it takes longer for the pH to drop, at least in the batches I've purc=
hased (with the extra PNSB). All EM years ago had at least three species of=
 PNSBs but now you are lucky to have one and must pay extra for two (so far=
 as I know).

I very much enjoyed using EM fermentations in tandem (one before the other)=
 with ACT in my perpetual garden beds which I had going for up to 7 years w=
ithout disturbing the soil. EM & ACT are like Yin & Yang in a garden. I fin=
d EM fermentations great for breaking down dead matter while ACT is more of=
 a nutrient cycler.

For those interested, I encourage exploring fermenting indigenous microorga=
nisms as taught by Gil Carandang in the Philippines. I can't locate his web=
site right now but he may chime in. He has a book on the subject. The other=
 easy practice is to culture your own lacto bacillus.

Salutations,
Tim

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Carl Brodeur" <cbrodeur1_at_...> wrote:
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> Guy, Timbuktu Posted this today:
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> EM or Effective microbes is the work of Dr. Higa From Japan. He runs the =
Company Terraganix which you can buy EM-1 Which is the mother culture. From=
 there you can brew extensions. The uses of EM are varied and huge. Vinny =
Pinto has a many websites and yahoo groups soley for the pourpose exploring=
 the uses of EM. http://web.archive.org/web/20051215005439/http://www.eminf=
o.info/moreem1.html#dilutions <http://web.archive.org/web/20051215005439/ht=
tp:/www.eminfo.info/moreem1.html#dilutions> This is his older web site tha=
t links you to alot of his work and an explanation on what EM is and how to=
 brew. His other web sites he gets into the ORMUS and more metaphysical pro=
perties of EM. EM is a really interesting topic, I just read an article tha=
t an organic farm in the fallout area of the nuclear disaster in Japan, tha=
t use EM has ZERO Radiation detected from the fields and its produce. Effe=
ctive Microbes are incredible for many uses.
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> From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] On=
 Behalf Of Guy Dauderman
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [compost_tea] The use of EM in brewer cleaning.
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> Where are you getting the Effective Microbes?
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> From: jim devno <grannysgt_at_...>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 11:44 AM
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> what is effective microbes and where do i get some here in texas
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> From: letitgrow69 <letitgrow69_at_...>
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:48 AM
> Subject: [compost_tea] The use of EM in brewer cleaning.
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> Currently I am using Effective Microbes for cleaning a brewer my brewer. =
I notice it cleans up bacterial slim nicely. My brewer is homemade so it ha=
s some gaps in the PVC, great places for Anaerobes to grow. I have found th=
at running 2oz of EM per gal and run for a few hours and everything is sque=
aky clean with little brushing. What does everyone else think?
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