RE: RES: [compost_tea] Giant vegetables
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From: soilfoodweb_at_aol.com [mailto:soilfoodweb_at_aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 8:55 PM
To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RES: [compost_tea] Giant vegetables
Hi Tom -
You suggested it was merely long day length that resulted in giant
vegetables. I countered that. It isn't just long day length that results
in giant vegetables.
Yes I did suggest that. And yes I understand John beats everyone out up
there because he uses CT. I don't think it is fair to represent CT as
producing giant vegetables. You've taught me to question validity of claims
bandying about and to insist on data. Where's the data on this claim?
If you want to say it wasn't CT, when John gets his large vegies and his
neighbors don't, when Jose has giant vegies and the growers around him do
not, and when Scott gets giant daylillies, and other growers in similar soil
and climate do not, then you need to explain what you think it could be
instead of the CT.
Ok, three users claim giant vegetable/daylilies..anyone else? I believe
bigger healthier and more productive, but giant is hard to swallow.
I think what you are doing is saying that because ALL people don't get giant
vegies with CT, that therefore CT cannot be the cause of the giant vegies.
This is not correct logic.
No I think some of us are making claims that are not repeatable. Disease
suppression, increased production and general plant vigor ARE all repeatable
by ANYONE making good tea.
The correct thing to ask is, what might be in combination with CT in these
areas that result in giant vegies.
I'm not sure giant is the goal of most gardeners and farmers..
Instead of implying that these folks are, ah, well, ah, less than
clear-sighted about the causes of their large vegie syndrome :-) that's
a grin there - you might try to determine why they get large vegies and you
don't.
My intent was not to imply a lack of clear sightedness. For that I
apologize...mea culpa!
So, Scott, John, Jose - are you in high rainfall areas, or low? If they are
all in high rainfall, then we can search for folks in high rainfall areas
that don't get giant vegies.
Tom, I know you like to poke at people and make them think. Poking is a
good way to do make people think, but it sometimes also makes for hard
feelings.
If asking Worm Gold folks and John Evans why they represent their products
as producing giant vegetables is poking, then yes I am. I really would
prefer they stayed with claims that were verifiable and able to be
replicated.
So, as long as everyone understands how Tom works, and no one gets ruffled
feelings, we'll think and not react. Right?
As long as everyone understands I have nothing to sell and like many others
have taken many risks to promote and support compost tea. As a result I do
get ruffled and protective. Where's the data. :>)
And maybe not all of us want giant vegies.
There's a giant tomato contest here every summer..maybe I should reconsider
the possibility and enter...
.
Received on Mon Nov 25 2002 - 23:15:17 EST
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