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Re: [compost_tea] Any Comments or reply to this?



Allan 

I knew I should have gone to that conference. We used Aerobic Compost tea
all last season. I removed copper from our spray program entirely. For 20+
acres we used less than 50 pounds of sulphur all season. 

So what kept the mildew away ? this is Ontario not the arid west coast that
Alan York it used to. We have lots of powdery mildew AND we have something
they don't in California - we have downey mildew. 

At 11:13 AM 30/01/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>     This was posted on the BDnow! list  server.   I personally find it
>very interesting, any  comments?   daniel   Blame this one on me, folks,
>but one of the most  astounding upshots 
>of this week's conference was the chance to meet with  experienced 
>growers who have worked with compost tea and who have found teas  to 
>be much less effective than we have heard people proclaim them to  be.  
>Alan York asks people to ask the hard questions. He  says a hard 
>question right now is 'Do you know of a vineyard that has  effectively 
>  He's 
>willing to back this question down to one season. (The  unusually dry 
>summer this past year has eleviated foliar diseases across the  board, 
>tea or no tea.)   Vicki Bess, who is a compost tea advocate who spoke  at
this 
>conference, felt that the push to diversity and high counts is not a  
>push towards teas that really work on the soils or even the leaves. 
>She  said, and Will Brinton concurred, that it is the feeds in the 
>teas that  select the final microbial mix and these microbes were not 
>necessarily the  ones that would do as good of works as ones commonly 
>  stated that there is not need 
>for pumped up  populations of microbials. He feels that this is 
>unfounded, unscientific  hysteria. He went on to say that good compost 
>tea has all the microbiology a  person needs for controlling foliar 
>disease - WITHOUT BREWING IT other than  we do already!! Think about 
>it folks:   Even better: Compost tea and brewer sales people in 
>Pennsylvania have 
>received letters from the EPA telling them that they  cannot sell 
>their products as disease control products because there is NO  
>SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE.   Again - I'm sharing this
>info for your own  evaluation. I've got egg 
>on my face, of course.   -Allan
> ----- Original Message -----  <wpb@sympatico.ca>
><compost_tea@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:57  AM
>Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Re: Why have regs, and  the ICTC 
>> Elaine,
>> Thanks for your response, and all your points were  well taken. But 
>>   I too am eagerly waiting 
>> for responses to Laura's  questions, and I believe that since this was 
>> the venue chosen to  solicit members, this is where the answers should 
>> be. I feel this was  just a retaliatory response to the "big industry" 
>> association, and  might lack the necessary thought and substance to be 
>> viable. I hope I  am proven very, very wrong. I haven't eaten crow for 
>> quite some time,  but I ALWAYS carry some A-1 sauce with me.
>> 
>> Bill  Baranick
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Laura Sabourin
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Tea-riffic Areobic Compost Tea and Acadian Seaplant Products
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