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Re: [compost_tea] Any Comments or reply to this?
Allan
I knew I should have gone to that conference. We used Aerobic Compost tea
all last season. I removed copper from our spray program entirely. For 20+
acres we used less than 50 pounds of sulphur all season.
So what kept the mildew away ? this is Ontario not the arid west coast that
Alan York it used to. We have lots of powdery mildew AND we have something
they don't in California - we have downey mildew.
At 11:13 AM 30/01/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> This was posted on the BDnow! list server. I personally find it
>very interesting, any comments? daniel Blame this one on me, folks,
>but one of the most astounding upshots
>of this week's conference was the chance to meet with experienced
>growers who have worked with compost tea and who have found teas to
>be much less effective than we have heard people proclaim them to be.
>Alan York asks people to ask the hard questions. He says a hard
>question right now is 'Do you know of a vineyard that has effectively
> He's
>willing to back this question down to one season. (The unusually dry
>summer this past year has eleviated foliar diseases across the board,
>tea or no tea.) Vicki Bess, who is a compost tea advocate who spoke at
this
>conference, felt that the push to diversity and high counts is not a
>push towards teas that really work on the soils or even the leaves.
>She said, and Will Brinton concurred, that it is the feeds in the
>teas that select the final microbial mix and these microbes were not
>necessarily the ones that would do as good of works as ones commonly
> stated that there is not need
>for pumped up populations of microbials. He feels that this is
>unfounded, unscientific hysteria. He went on to say that good compost
>tea has all the microbiology a person needs for controlling foliar
>disease - WITHOUT BREWING IT other than we do already!! Think about
>it folks: Even better: Compost tea and brewer sales people in
>Pennsylvania have
>received letters from the EPA telling them that they cannot sell
>their products as disease control products because there is NO
>SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE. Again - I'm sharing this
>info for your own evaluation. I've got egg
>on my face, of course. -Allan
> ----- Original Message ----- <wpb@sympatico.ca>
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>Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Re: Why have regs, and the ICTC
>> Elaine,
>> Thanks for your response, and all your points were well taken. But
>> I too am eagerly waiting
>> for responses to Laura's questions, and I believe that since this was
>> the venue chosen to solicit members, this is where the answers should
>> be. I feel this was just a retaliatory response to the "big industry"
>> association, and might lack the necessary thought and substance to be
>> viable. I hope I am proven very, very wrong. I haven't eaten crow for
>> quite some time, but I ALWAYS carry some A-1 sauce with me.
>>
>> Bill Baranick
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Laura Sabourin
EcoVit Ecologically Sound Horticultural Products
Tea-riffic Areobic Compost Tea and Acadian Seaplant Products
RR # 1
St Catharines, Ontario L2R 6P7
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