OK. Folks, calm
down. This list is not getting out of control and it is not abandoning
science.
I repeat what I
said Re Mold: Don't use compost that grows lots of mold when
you put in an additive to grow fungi.
What you are trying to
grow in your tea are benefical fungi, primarily in the Basidiomycete
group....although we also grow ascomycete and actinomycete fungi. You want
Hyphal diameters of 3 if possible. Sure molds are fungi, but they are not
the same type and they do not provide the benefits of the Basidiomycete
type fungi.
Molds are usually
red, green, black or blue. When you are growing fungi in
your compost because of the addition of nutrients you do not want molds. You can
get some really nasty things going with mold.
The type of fungi you want
to see are long(up to several inches in some cases) fuzzy, bright white, hairy
mycelium. The mass on top of your container will look like SANTA's
Beard...white, fuzzy, threads all over the place. If you don't like the
reference to Santa's beard, sorry. It is a universal sight and is a useful type
description.
As for using all of the
foods Jose suggests for additives ALL AT ONCE, you must be emulating the
plate growth arguement...so you figure you have to put in more food to wake up
diverse fungi ? O.K. You think that is scientific? Not me.
Too many variables and too much work for results that are obviously growing
things you don't want in the tea. I've tested it. Have you? So who is the
scientist?
And then you attack me for
not being scientific. Please, if you only knew how much money I have spent
testing teas (and passing on the information for free.......), with controls and
more controls and repeats. When I scientifically tested lots of compost
additives all at once, as did Jose, I got mold growing along with a little of
the Santa's Beard (white rot, I believe) and BAD tea numbers.....SCIENTIFICALLY
TESTED. When I use a single simple additive, I don't get the mold
and I get some damn good tea numbers, TESTED.
So, no I am not a
fungal spokesperson. However, I am damn good at making great fungal teas
and I spend a lot of money testing what I am doing.
If you want to use
all the additives Jose suggests, fine. I say it is overkill. If you want to grow
mold, fine. I say they are bad for your teas. But don't tell me
that I am not being scientific or that this is the wild west. Not in
my case it isn't.
If you want great fungal
teas with Basidiomycete type benefical fungi, I can help you. If you don't, that
is fine. However, don't attack this list or members on it without thinking about
what you are saying. In this instance, you were way off
base.
Now I feel better and I
repeat: DO NOT USE COMPOST WITH ADDITIVE NUTRIENTS IF THEY GROW MOLDS.
> I think we need more science here. After you do that, can you explain > how a food source can grow only one type of organism and > why do you recon this organism is bad instead of good just because > it doesn't look like "Santa's beard" ? > > > Then : > > "Jose Mix has too many ingredients. Pick one and use that." > > Have you ever being a fungi or a yeast in other lifes to know > which kind do they like best ? Are you a fungi spoke person ? > How do you know that those beneficial fungi likes one source > of food instead of many ? Are you jealous about my mix ? > You can make a better one if you will. It is not " Jose's mix". > It is not patented. > I am glad I am not a fungi that inhabits your compost otherwise > I would have to live with a monolithic type of food that you > decided that is good for me. The idea behind many foods instead > of one is because life, and ultimately God, manifest themselves > through diversity. > Plurality is more democratic than a dictatorial single choice, don't you > think ?.
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