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Re: RES: RES: [compost_tea] Don't use MOLD and a RANT
Title: Re: RES: RES: [compost_tea] Don't use MOLD and a
RANT
Every time I get something from SoilFoodWeb, it is in Times Roman
9 point. bad idea. This is unreadable on Macintoshes (I am on a
mac - i.e. no viruses).
From Jose - It's even worse - light blue on a white
background.
No wonder I skip these posts. I have to copy the text to
another app, change the font, size and colour to read then.
At least don't use a serif font please.
Dear
Jeff,
Is there a problem with your computer ?
Everytime I get a message from you it comes in
big
near capital letters. A psychologist would have a
good
theory about that but this is not the issue
here.
You don«t need to write in big black letters to make
your point.
The fact that you have spend lots of money in
analysis
of compost and compost tea does not gives you the
right
to say what is right and what is wrong.
I know Alaska Humus is a good amendment as it has
been
tested in lab but you make it sound like it is the
only good stuff
on hearth which is not right to say the
least.
Also, I have challenged you to present scientific
evidence that
a single food source is better than several sources
and you did
not present any evidence.
You have circumvented the subject talking about the
money you
spend on analysis, about the classes of fungi or
organisms that are
beneficial and expelling your bile Ê( do you have a
liver problem ?)
but did not answer the main question that is why do
you believe that
a single source is better than several fungal sources
?Ê Why ?
Can you please explain that ?
Jose
OK. Folks,
calm down. This list is not getting out of control and it is
not abandoning science.
I repeat
what I said Re Mold: Don't use compost that grows
lots of mold when you put in an additive to grow
fungi.
What you are
trying to grow in your tea are benefical fungi, primarily in the
Basidiomycete group....although we also grow ascomycete and
actinomycete fungi. You want Hyphal diameters of 3 if
possible. Sure molds are fungi, but they are not the same type
and they do not provide the benefits of the Basidiomycete
type fungi.
Molds are
usually red, green, black or blue. When you are
growing fungi in your compost because of the addition of nutrients you
do not want molds. You can get some really nasty things going with
mold.
The type of
fungi you want to see are long(up to several inches in some cases)
fuzzy, bright white, hairy mycelium. The mass on top of your container
will look like SANTA's Beard...white, fuzzy, threads all over the
place. If you don't like the reference to Santa's beard, sorry. It is
a universal sight and is a useful type
description.
As for using
all of the foods Jose suggests for additives ALL AT ONCE, you must
be emulating the plate growth arguement...so you figure you have
to put in more food to wake up diverse fungi ? O.K. You
think that is scientific? Not me. Too many variables and
too much work for results that are obviously growing things you don't
want in the tea. I've tested it. Have you? So who is the
scientist?
And then you
attack me for not being scientific. Please, if you only knew how much
money I have spent testing teas (and passing on the information for
free.......), with controls and more controls and repeats. When I
scientifically tested lots of compost additives all at once, as did
Jose, I got mold growing along with a little of the Santa's Beard
(white rot, I believe) and BAD tea numbers.....SCIENTIFICALLY
TESTED. When I use a single simple additive, I don't get
the mold and I get some damn good tea numbers, TESTED.
So, no
I am not a fungal spokesperson. However, I am damn good at making
great fungal teas and I spend a lot of money testing what I am
doing.
If you
want to use all the additives Jose suggests, fine. I say it is
overkill. If you want to grow mold, fine. I say they are bad
for your teas. But don't tell me that I am not being scientific
or that this is the wild west. Not in my case it
isn't.
If you want
great fungal teas with Basidiomycete type benefical fungi, I can help
you. If you don't, that is fine. However, don't attack this list or
members on it without thinking about what you are saying. In this
instance, you were way off base.
Now I feel
better and I repeat: DO NOT USE COMPOST WITH ADDITIVE NUTRIENTS IF
THEY GROW MOLDS.
> I think we need more science here. After you do that, can you
explain
> how a food source can grow only one type of organism and
> why do you recon this organism is bad instead of good just
because
> it doesn't look like "Santa's beard" ?
>
>
> Then :
>
> "Jose Mix has too many ingredients. Pick one and use
that."
>
> Have you ever being a fungi or a yeast in other lifes to know
> which kind do they like best ? Are you a fungi spoke person
?
> How do you know that those beneficial fungi likes one source
> of food instead of many ? Are you jealous about my mix ?
> You can make a better one if you will. It is not " Jose's
mix".
> It is not patented.
> I am glad I am not a fungi that inhabits your compost
otherwise
> I would have to live with a monolithic type of food that you
> decided that is good for me. The idea behind many foods
instead
> of one is because life, and ultimately God, manifest
themselves
> through diversity.
> Plurality is more democratic than a dictatorial single
choice,
don't you
> think ?.
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