HOLY GRAIL!!
KV, from one non-lemming to another I agree. I do believe in soil
biology and I have made that clear in my postings. However because I
won't follow blindly with the good DR. I've been labeled a TROLL. How
proffessional is that?? My questions and postings arise from my own
years of farming, gardening, and commercial horticltural business.
While this HOLY GRAIL (SFI standard) was being put together I believe
the University was footing the bill. You can't tell me they were not a
huge contributing factor, research and data. SO should they SUE SFI??
Believe me if SFI owned those proprietory rights they would have
already filled a law suit instead of bad mouthing the competition in
this forum!! This is a self-regulated industry with very few positive
peer review studies done to back up their CT claims. When you leave
Academia to cash in your field of view narrows greatly!! So how dare
anyone in this forum bad-mouth their competition!! If the service or
product is a bad one it will go away. Dare I say the bad words no one
wants to hear GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS!! Take care Hi_Yield1.
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, wpb_at_s... wrote:
> Hi Linda,
> I said the simple answer, we do not know everything, and right now
only
> one side. There's a big difference between the real world and the
lab,
> and the real world sometimes is not a very pleasant place, lacking
> ethics and professional courtesy. An opinion was solicited, and I
gave
> mine.....which on this list is usually not very popular, but I'll
stand
> by it just the same, afterall I am a non-lemming.
> I think that the question is not that SFI has the monoploy on
testing,
> but that they set the standard. A standard has to be adhered to. I
know
> that I've just back tracked on an opinion that I made several months
> ago, but now I see the light..oh brother! So I think the question
is if
> you're planning on dropping that kind of coin on a CT system, would
you
> want a standardized test?? Would'nt you want to know if what you're
> applying and if it's harmful......??
> Again opinions are like compost holes.......
> Bill
>
> Linda wrote:
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Good advise, and maybe BBC too. That would insure this remains a
one
> > horse town with no validation from any other labs. Isn't anyone
else
> > concerned about being unable to find any other lab capable of
testing
> > with "proper equations"? Am I to believe I'm about to invest 8-10K
> > and only SFI can validate my tea?
> >
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, wpb_at_s... wrote:
> > > The simple answer is yes, sue, with extreme prejudice. Make an
> > example
> > > of her.
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > soilfoodweb_at_a... wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lynn Rogers was a technician in my lab, and learned a few of
the
> > SFI
> > > > assays.
> > > >
> > > > Two and a half years ago, she told me she had to quit SFI to
move
> > to
> > > > Seattle, where her husband was getting a much better paying
job.
> > > >
> > > > They never left the Corvallis area. Her story was a lie.
> > > >
> > > > Lynn opened up Microbila Matrix with Joe Preston last May or
> > June, and
> > > > the two of them had a falling out by September.
> > > >
> > > > Lynn has re-structured the lab, and is now on her own.
> > > >
> > > > She doesn't know the recent improvements in the SFI testing
that
> > we
> > > > have developed in the last two years. She doesn't have the
data
> > base
> > > > that SFI has.,
> > > >
> > > > The tests that I've seen from her lab, she has messed up the
> > template
> > > > she took from SFI. The equations she is using to calculate
fungal
> >
> > > > biomass are not correct.
> > > >
> > > > What I saw on a couple of the reports she put out had fungal
> > biomass
> > > > levels that were completely impossible in compost tea.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to use her lab, ask her where her data are that
> > allows her
> > > > to come up with the "desired ranges" on her reports.
> > > >
> > > > Should I sue her for using information from SFI that she has
no
> > right
> > > > to be using? Or just ignore her?
> > > >
> > > > Elaine Ingham
> > > > President, Soil Foodweb Inc.
> > > > www.soilfoodweb.com
> > > > SFI Oregon, USA
> > > > SFI Australia
> > > > SFI New York
> > > > SFI Europe
> > > > SFI New Zealand
> > > >
> > > > "Hope is not a feeling. It is not the belief that things will
> > turn out
> > > > well, but the conviction that what we are doing makes sense,
no
> > matter
> > > > how things turn out." -- Vaclav Havel, former President of
the
> > > > Czech Republic
> > > >
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