Ted,
All right, I've taken my chill pill and everything is OK now. Take
care Hi_Yield1.
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Ted Peterson" <ted.peterson_at_t...>
wrote:
> Egad Hi_Yield. I could take any conventional input and list a whole
lot more precautions than those for simple ACT. As an example, take
any chemical input and just type in the warning label.
>
> Yes there are some things to be concerned with and it is an error to
think that ACT is the same as Erlich's magic bullet.
>
> ACT allows you to multiply certain bacteria and fungi in your
compost and apply it in a different form than the compost. Period.
This form has shown certain benefits among them disease prevention.
Not cure mind you but prevention.
>
> The people involved, for the most part, on this list are seeking
alternatives to an agribusiness system that is slowly ruining not only
our current crop output but future output as well. They are trying to
get "in tune" with natural processes and it is kind of
deconstructionist (in the sense that it is kind of post-technology) in
mode. So, everything that we "know" about ag is being questioned.
>
> However, don't take all the mumbo-jumbo and misstatements and wrong
tangents as an indication that brewing tea is more difficult that
putting compost in a bucket, feeding it with some sugars and NPK and
adding air. That's it.
>
> Applying it is also simple: either spray it on the leaves with a
hand sprayer or apply it with a watering can directly to the soil.
That's it.
>
> Everything else is a refinement and tweaking of those basic things.
>
> Most of the post I have read on this list are examining the basic
process and trying to find ways to improve something that is emerging
as a body of knowledge.
>
> So, relax. Take a deep breath and figure out why you would post
such a message as this. It is a litany of words taken from post which
at least shows that you are reading. Now, you have shown that you
understand the words, see how you can use that understanding to
enlighten not point out that we don't understand. We know that we
don't know.
>
> If we understood it all, we wouldn't be on this list. Elaine has
done this the longest and even she admits that there are things she is
learning. So lighten up.
>
> Ted Peterson
> Earth-Wise/Spirit of the Earth
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: hi_yield1
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:40 PM
> Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Recent posts
>
>
> Margaret,
> I agree that to many lab like limitations or strict requirments
have
> been put on making good compost tea. Creating an ideal
environment in
> a
> brewer to mass multiply microbes that may or may not even exist
in the
> compost to begin with. Keep the brewing temp. just right, don't
let
> the
> oxygen level drop below x amount, don't over feed or under feed
the
> microbes, bacteria vs fungi, do not use chlorinated water, keep
out of
> direct sunlight, no bio slime, do not use copper vessels, do not
over
> aggitate, do not use wrong size spray nozzel, may take years to
> correct soil biology, no till, apply immediately before mass die
off,
> SFI testing to be considered legit and the list goes on. OK let's
say
> you have done all of the above and then some. It's time to
apply!! You
> now take this wonderful brew out of the Lab so to speak and
introduce
> it to an enviornment that is foreign to the one it came from. In
an
> organically enriched soil all players that you are trying to add
> should already be present, furthermore in equilibrium. As soon as
the
> air pump is shut off the growth stops. What do you think happens
in
> the less than oxygenated soil? Massive die off. RED TIDE!!
ANAEROBIC
> conditions!! While the lab Techies may be able to look at
identify and
> classify all of these wonderful microbes. They DO NOT know all
> players involved. In fact only a very small percentage. Nor is it
> understood how they interact or what numbers are really needed.
Like
> the saying goes if I can't dazzel you with brillance I will
baffle you
> with bullshit. You will also find the most out spoken members of
this
> forum are those in the business. You would be better of adding
your
> compost directly to the soil and writing about that. I know, it's
> nothing new and you can't make a name for yourself or win the
Nobel
> Peace Prize but it is tried and true. Working for you much longer
than
> any Artificially contrived Super Juice Tea. Take care and God
Save The
> Queen, Hi_Yield1.
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, Margaret Lauterbach
> <melauter_at_e...> wrote:
> > I just joined this list a couple of days ago. I am a garden
> columnist,
> > wrote columns for the Boise daily paper for nearly ten years
until
> they
> > laid me off last summer to
> > "save money." Here in the intermountain west we have growing
> conditions,
> > diseases and insects that national magazines and standard
references
> don't
> > deal with. I decided to publish my columns online, and had a
> professional
> > help me set up a website. It's at www.margaretlauterbach.com .
I'm
> trying
> > to encourage beginners to get into gardening, and many of them
don't
> think
> > they can master planting a seed.
> >
> > I'm having great difficulty in trying to follow the complex
issues
> on this
> > website, and wonder if it's absolutely necessary to regulate
> temperatures
> > of compost tea. I fear that getting into this type of
complication
> will
> > drive off new gardeners, depriving them of the pleasure and
solace
> of
> > gardening. Thank you, Margaret Lauterbach
>
>
>
>
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