[compost_tea] Re: sleeping critters - help from Elaine?

From: dkemnitz2000 <dkemnitz2000_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 06:49:20 -0000

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, rlbct <rlbct_at_c...> wrote:
> Thanks, Chris
> I was assuming (unfortunately without saying so) that the brew
would run
> until the little guys all went to sleep - ie they consumed all the
food,
> closed the shutters and shut down.
> And in the seminar Elaine told us of a cow cesspit that was aerated
and they
> found no e-coli. (of course "no" is probably not an absolute term
here).
> And I was thinking bacteria.
> I don't know what happens to fungi, protozoa and nematodes when the
food
> runs out and the bacteria are asleep. (Do predators eat the
hibernators - oh
> there's the bear again! ?). But it can't be good without o2. So
are the
> FPN's cooperative and agree to sleep or do they check out for good?
> I'm assuming now (I must say it!) that we do lose these guys, which
must
> devalue the CT enormously.
>
> Another assumtion : referring to 'sleeping' here means they go into
a
> dormant stage (much like an earthworm lays it eggs). So its not
the same
> critter that wakes up, it the 'egg' that needs to develop? Like a
fungus
> has spores. But do bacteria have 'egg' like stage.


<><><<><>Some bacteria are spore formers as well.Dennis


I thought they
> multiplied by division. In which case, maybe the cell does
literally slow
> right down and wait for better times.
>
> According to some reseach I've just read about (done in Australia)
there is
> an "ethylene cycle" in the root zone, where the microsite goes
aerobic to
> anaerobic and back. The ethylene puts the aerobes to sleep for a
spell
> (...waiting for the frog, or is that a different fairy tale?). But
they
> sleep for a short time until o2 diffuses into the region again and
ethylene
> diffuses out.
> Lynton



Therefore put some ethylene in your botttle (with AACT)and check it
in a few days, weeks, months at various temps. How about using some
metabolic by products to put them(anaerobes,aerobes,pathogens, fungi)
to sleep in a bottle? Try lactic acid at various levels? And what
about molasses???????? That has been covered to some extent. Add
molasses put them in a bottle and boom, Maybe very little loss
of "diversity".
Sugar will stop everything except mold??? Any believers? I'll use a
disclaimer here. Try at your risk!!! How about honey; it stops even
mold. What does it do to bio-diversity at what concentration?? Got
some tea, honey, a bottle and cap? Let's research it!Dennis





 
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