Re: [compost_tea] Re: Re: My compost
Kirk don't take offense, but there is a huge variety
of feed stocks that must be dealt with. Many methods
must be employed to change a problem into something
that can be used beneficially. So if this feed lot
situation delivers product that can be further used
without causing an environmental problem then its a
good thing.
Finding some bulking agent then amending for the
specific tea desired seems the answer?
--- Kirk Leonard <kirkleon_at_open.org> wrote:
> I agree with Butch.
>
> > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:22:20 -0800 (PST)
> > From: butch ragland <wilddog_202_at_yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: My compost
> >
> > The one thing I know a great deal about is "big
> box"
> > bags and it is not likely that it really is
> composted
> > manure. Not that it is bad, it just probably isn't
> > what it says on the bag.
>
> Jack - can you find a local source of good compost?
> Someone who can tell
> you what's in it, whether or not it got done
> thermally, maybe even tested
> it? If there is manure in the compost, it should
> have been
> thermophyllically composted, achieved 131dF for at
> least 3 days, and longer
> (10-15 days) with temps up to 160dF is better.
>
> There's a nefarious category of "compost" NOP has
> been pushing called
> "processed manure materials" - factory feedlot
> manures that have been cooked
> at 150dF for an hour and dried to 12%. Processes
> like this have been used
> to make so-called composts for a long time, and I
> think this is the kind of
> stuff you'll get from mass merchandisers - NOT real
> compost, not good for
> teas, but potentially useful as mulch. The
> cooking/drying routine basically
> destroys the microbiology, but healthy soil, or
> mixing with good compost as
> Ted suggests, can eventually re-populate it with
> beneficials.
>
> The potential problem I keep coming back to on this
> stuff, though, is
> wondering what happens to the synthetics -
> antibiotics, steroids, hormones,
> etc, used regularly in feedlots? (Isn't this just
> another "dilution
> solution?") And is 150dF for an hour enough to
> destroy pathogens? Even with
> drying, sure seems to me there's still a pathogen
> re-growth risk there.
>
> Kirk
>
>
=====
Butch Ragland
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cocaine, alcohol, cigarettes,etc
I'm sorry to report that
cooperation is not
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