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Re: Ecological Economics and Entropy



Vincent R. Clause <VinceClause@ecosafe.com> wrote:
>
> So, according to you, the impoverised conditions of medeval civilization
are the result of the lack 
> of chemical fertalizers, and pesticides, and herbicides.  Puuleeaase!  

But of course it was.  As was the tremendous amount of disease a result of
their lack of modern medical understanding and technology.   Having lives
all your life with these things, Vincent, I think you fail to see how
urgent they are.   Modern Agriculture-- of which chemical adjuncts are an
essential part-- are the sole reason that 9 out of ten people no longer
need to be farmers...and that most of the world considers being well-fed a
basic right.

> 
> I guess the dirty creeks of medeval days, were also to be the blame of
the naturalists, although I 
> do not have a single clue why.  Do you?

No, that was due to the lack of modern sewer and septic systems.  

> 
> The fat kings bad teeth are also the fault of the terroristic organic
gardeners.  Watch out, they 
> wait to smitten you with his safe and clean potions of herbs and compost.

It was the lack of dentistry there, along with flouridated water.


> 
> Answer me this.  How is it that earlier this year, I had a census of over
600 plants(most in pots) 
> on my property, all organically grown, and all flourishing, while my
neighbors wasted umpteen 
> dollars on chemicals that left them with yards lacking any natural
beauty?  

Natural beauty certainly sounds like a opinion, not a fact.  And I doubt
you're living entirely off the produce of those 600 pots.  But answer me
this.  Why have agricultural yields risen 2, 5, 10, or even 50 times from
the "good old days" when we had no fertilizer or pesticides?   Why does an
entire country no longer starve from a potato blight destroying an entire
crop?  Why is that most people today never even have to _see_ a farm, much
less live on one?  Why do insect hordes-- of ten or even a hundred
million-- no longer sweep from the skies and destroy crops by the square
mile?

--
Mike Asher
masher@tusc.net


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