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Re: Artificial Fertilizers
At 09:28 PM 7/27/96 GMT, Lyle VonSpreckelsen wrote:
>brateaver@aol.com (BRateaver) wrote:
>
>>I don't see that an old writing is bad just because old. It may still be
>>true today, as is true of the Bible--thousands of years old.
>
>>In U classes it was emphasized that Liebig was the one who started the
>>whole chemical fertilizer idea and the idea spread that it is the NPK that
>>matters, and indeed sacks of chemical "fertiizers" always specify the NPK,
>>never anything else that may be in the material.
>
>>Anyway, no matter how it is twisted, the fact remains that since WW2,
>>especially, the use of chemicals in soil has burgeoned, and the soil has
>>been largely killed, and it has become harder and harder each decade, and
>>more and more chemicals are being used on the land to get the same crop as
>>before--it takes more all the time.
>
>Where do you live ?? And what are you selling ? Trendline yields
>continue to increase in America's Plains and Nh3 fertilizer rates
>(and recomendations) for example have been reduced from 1.4#'s/bu in
>many cases, to 1#/per bushel. Just because a substance is synthetic
>does not make it more toxic or carconogenic than the naturally
>occurring alternative. Many times the inverse is true.
The old argument about naturally occurring alternatives are poison is what
heavy chemicals farmers use to justify their use of poisons. They feel they
have to point out every natural poison to show us that their making for
poison by the ton it ok. They are jokers brateaver so don't let them get
under your skin .
Where do you live Lyle in a cave. Have you not read about the herbicides in
the water supply in a lot of cities from farm run off. They defended DDT
right to the end and wish they could still bring it back. They know some of
the chemicals cause cancer yet fight against setting up laws to save people
>from cancer. They want to use poison even when facts show some are
destroying the ozone and some are harmful to kids. If you could keep your
poisons on your farms it would be ok but it is getting into our water and
food supply. The records shows we are using more pesticides and herbicides
.The are using more now than ever before. Read a news paper.Its have been
shown that some of the chemicals farmers use are cancerogenic the (Delany
Clause). One difference between natural and synthetic man made cancerogenic
chemicals is that they are using the synthetic chemicals by the tons the
natural is here the synthetic is made by the tons and released onto the
earth. They say they are reducing but facts show they are using
more,more,more. What are you selling Lyle. If you can keep your chemicals
out of our water and air and food and our wildlife etc it would not be so
bad. Our Mom and kids have to drink herbicides because you folks think you
need herbicides to make money.Our kids have to eat pesticides becuase you
feel you need to kill every bug. Its not the naturally occurring alternative
thats in our water supply it is the man made herbicides. hello anybody home!
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