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Re: Gene Tinkering: YOU Are The Mice And They Don't Want You to Know



What's you philosophy. You have already said you do not believe in God .
Tell us more about your personal philosophy so I can understand better your
viewpoint and your highly biased concepts.
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>Also interesting is the author's background. John Fagan was a successful
>scientist at the pinnacle of an impressive career, when he returned over
>$600,000 in grant money to NIH, abandoned his Western beliefs, and gave up
>science to delve into the art of Ayurvedic Medicine. My point is not to
>attack the author's personal philosophy, but rather to point out that his is
>the viewpoint of a highly biased extremist who rejects the most basic
>concepts embraced by scientists.
This make me respect the man more not less.  A successful scientist is what
we need to learn the truth.  Why do you think he abandoned his Western beliefs?

>Actually, I believe what happened was that they started using a different,
>unapproved host strain, which turned out to be toxic. This was a human
>ERROR, due to the fact that someone 'responsible' was not doing their job
>properly. It actually had nothing to do with a genetic experiment gone awry,
>as the enviro-terrorists would have the public believe. It was a case of
>stupidity, not a lack of knowledge or testing of any product.
To me a simple man human error is what worries me.  So people die because of
human error that's going to be their cop out.  IMHO these gene engineers are
the enviro=terrorists .  They have sure scared me.

>Certainly much of the information in question is proprietary and I'm sure
>many of the court documents remain sealed from the public. The facts will
>remain obscure in this case.

that's a nice trick. proprietary and sealed from public .  Obscure the
facts. Thanks for making my point.  These folks are powerful and are the
real enviro=terrorists not the folks that point out their wrongness.

 While it is possible that such "genetic
>manipulations" were involved, if they were it was in violation of many
>regulatory statutes designed to protect the public from such irresponsible
>behavior. I might point out that although similar incidents have occurred in
>the past, particularly in regard to the pharmaceutical industry, this is the
>only significant case opponents of "genetic engineering" have been able to
>latch onto as their version of "The Andromeda Strain". (Remember also that
>automobiles kill many thousands daily, but we continue to take that risk,
>and it's the most significant risk most of us take daily by orders of
>magnitude.)
At least I know when I get in a car I understand the risk I take but these
folks will not label their abominations so we have no choice <like we do
when we get in a car.>  label it so we have a choice. The topic is YOU Are
The Mice And They Don't Want You to know.  and it is true they will not label .

>That's why there's a huge body of regulatory law, requiring extensive
>testing of any theraputic compound or device. Why on the one hand does the
>public demand cures for cancer and AIDS and on the other condemn the
>industry which provides them? If you don't trust your doctor, maybe you
>should become a Vedic!
Label it. then those that don't trust them can have a choice.
>In any case, all this has nothing to do with food, genetically-engineered or
>otherwise. If you stick to the topic I was discussing and do some research,
>you will find that the alleged dangers from using insect viruses as
>biological controls are unwarranted by the scientific literature.
>Tracy
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The topic is YOU Are The Mice And They Don't Want You to know.  and it is
true they will not label their genetically=engineered junk so we are the
mice if we want to be or not. Their goes freedom of choice..so stick to the
topic do they want us to know or not we are the mice or not.  I say they do
not want us to know because they refuse to label.  this is easy to
understand . even for me.>
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