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Re: Ecological Economics and Entropy



mfriesel@ix.netcom.com wrote for all to see:

>I state:
>
>I'd like to recommend that, before this 'I understand entropy and you 
>don't' argument goes too far,  everyone take a deep breath, pretend 
>you don't know anything, and pick up and read Yourgrau, van der Merwe, 
>and Raw's book 'Treatise on Irreversible and Statistical 
>Thermophysics'.  They discuss the various formulations of entropy, 
>although not all in the same place, and they talk a lot so you can 
>skip the mathematics if you want and still get something out of it.  
>If you want to absorb the math, it is incisive yet clear because of 
>the quality of presentation.  Then you can take up this thread again 
>and at least have a common set of definitions to work with.

I have to thank you, it is clear that Hanson is not using the
established definitions of entropy.  I did not realize this before he
sucked me into the argument.  A more elementary text is "Chemical
Thermodynamics", by Watt.  A nice little introduction text is
"Elementary Chemical Thermodynamics", by Mahan, if you can find it.
Until I see evidence that Hanson has read one of these texts, I am
bowing out.

Regards, Harold
----
"An obstinate man does not hold opinions, but they hold him."
	---Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744)





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