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Re: Ecological Economics and Entropy
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Subject: Re: Ecological Economics and Entropy
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From: brshears@whale.st.usm.edu (Harold Brashears)
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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 16:46:00 GMT
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Article: 15711 of alt.sustainable.agriculture
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Newsgroups: talk.environment, sci.environment, sci.energy, sci.econ, sci.agriculture, alt.sustainable.agriculture
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Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
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mfriesel@ix.netcom.com wrote for all to see:
>I state:
>
>I'd like to recommend that, before this 'I understand entropy and you
>don't' argument goes too far, everyone take a deep breath, pretend
>you don't know anything, and pick up and read Yourgrau, van der Merwe,
>and Raw's book 'Treatise on Irreversible and Statistical
>Thermophysics'. They discuss the various formulations of entropy,
>although not all in the same place, and they talk a lot so you can
>skip the mathematics if you want and still get something out of it.
>If you want to absorb the math, it is incisive yet clear because of
>the quality of presentation. Then you can take up this thread again
>and at least have a common set of definitions to work with.
I have to thank you, it is clear that Hanson is not using the
established definitions of entropy. I did not realize this before he
sucked me into the argument. A more elementary text is "Chemical
Thermodynamics", by Watt. A nice little introduction text is
"Elementary Chemical Thermodynamics", by Mahan, if you can find it.
Until I see evidence that Hanson has read one of these texts, I am
bowing out.
Regards, Harold
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"An obstinate man does not hold opinions, but they hold him."
---Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744)
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