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Re: Ecological Economics and Entropy
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Subject: Re: Ecological Economics and Entropy
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From: bg364@torfree.net (Yuri Kuchinsky)
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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:51:19 GMT
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Article: 16020 of alt.sustainable.agriculture
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Mike Asher (masher@tusc.net) wrote:
: Yuri Kuchinsky <bg364@torfree.net> wrote:
: > How do you know this? The number of hungry people on the planet is now
: > greater than ever!
: In Medieval times, 90+% of the population was chronically malnourished.
This is a lot of nonsense. Were they malnourished at the harvest time?
Were people in fertile agricultural areas malnourished?
But the biggest problem with this reasoning is the focus on medieval
times. This is rather naive. The course of human history consists of 99%
of the time living in hunter/gatherer tribal social organizations. The
medieval period is only a tiny portion of human history. Perhaps you
Libber types should not show your ignorance of basic anthropology so
obviously...
Anyway, to come to the point, people in such tribal societies had plenty
of leisure time, and most of the time they had plenty to eat. (True, some
of them suffered during some brief seasonal times of scarcity).
The work of Marvin Harris and of other Cultural Materialists clearly
demonstrates that the modern/Libertarian idea of progress always making
things better is completely bogus. Progress made the life of common people
during the middle ages much worse than it was in tribal societies.
: A
: man was deemed well off if he ate meat once a week.
And in India most people never eat meat and they are none the worse for it.
: Beer was widely consumed, by children and adults,
I supposed this is meant to indicate their poverty?
: as water was too
: dangerous to drink. When you did drink river water, you were taught to
: "strain" it between your teeth to remove the larger creatures found
: naturally in it.
These are ridiculous anecdotes. Have you ever heard about wells?
Get informed, Mike!
Ecologically,
Yuri.
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Toronto ... the Earth | and the most modern serpents." F. Nietzsche
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