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Re: IT IS! IT IS! IT'S THE INDUSTRIAL RELIGION!



On Mon, 02 Dec 1996 17:05:44 +1200, Robert Karl Blair
<xtr35843301@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

>David C. Larkin wrote:
>> Actually, Martin Luther established a new form of Christianity that
>> was based upon faith not works.  The Roman Church at the time was
>> teaching that salvation was by works.  Martin Luther rebelled against
>> that idea and taught that man is saved by grace through faith, not by
>> works lest man could boast of his salvation through his works.
>> Although Luther was a predestinarian, perhaps it was Calvin's doctrine
>> of predestination that caused men to seek to prove that they were
>> included among the saved by their industriousness.  However, you have
>> to consider the Enlightenment, and, as Peter Gay, Yale enlightenment
>> historian calls it, the rise of paganism, not a "new Christianity"
>> that really made it possible for the "industrial religion" to take
>> hold.
>> 
>> David Larkin
>> dcl@primenet.com
>
>THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ALT.SUSTAINABLE.AGRICULTURE AND 
>PROVIDES NOTHING OTHER THAN "CLUTTER".
>PLEASE FOCUS YOUR THRUST TO A SPECIFIC NEWGROUP AND LEAVE THIS NEWSGROUP
>FOR THOSE WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN "SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE".
>THANK YOU
 
Robert Karl Blair is entirely wrong on this point.  The question of
what is and is not sustainable, how you define it, and how you go
about achieving it, is at root a matter of human motivations -- of
which "spiritual" ones are mong the most important.
 
Getting questions like this right is _extremely_ important to the
future of agriculture, and of everything else we do.
 
                                                        -dlj.
 





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