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Re: Brashears on Hanson





On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, charliew wrote:

> In article <5840b9$g2p@news1.io.org>, yuku@io.org (Yuri Kuchinsky) wrote:
> >Harold Brashears (brshears@whale.st.usm.edu) wrote:
> >
> >: I'm sorry, my point, not well made, is that as long as you accept
> >: Jay's assumptions, he is correct.  Unfortunately, those assumptions to
> >: not apply in the real world.
> >
> >Unfortunately, they aren't assumptions at all, but a description of
> >reality. Unfortunately, this is where the real world is heading.
> >
> >The destruction of Nature will inevitably result in social
> >(self)destruction.
> >
> >Ecologically,
> >
> >Yuri.
> >
> >            =O=    Yuri Kuchinsky in Toronto    =O=
> >  --- a webpage like any other...  http://www.io.org/~yuku ---
> > 
> >I take a totally different view of God and Nature from that which
> >the later Christians usually entertain, for I hold that God is the
> >immanent, and not the extraneous, cause of all things. I say, All 
> >is in God; all lives and moves in God        ===        B. Spinoza
> >
> 
> Yuri,
> 
> why is it that as things are getting better, you perceive them as getting 
> worse?  Pollution was much worse in the '60's than it is now.  Open your 
> eyes, ears, and nose, and verify this for yourself.

An overgeneralization. In some areas, such as ground water pollution and
non-point run-off, pollution is worse. In other areas, the rate of
pollution is down, as well as total amounts, but the totals creep upwrds
due to population growth and the auto-culture. Many estuaries, such as
Chesapeake bay, are as eutrophic as they ever have been, mostly due to
non-point runoff from farms and developed areas that is laden with
fertilizer/animal waste.  Acid rain is still with us, and high elevation
lakes in the Adirondaks and White mountains are still dead, and red spruce
is still in decline. All our gains can be steadily eroded, because of
population growth, and our sprawling, consumptive lifestyle. Some gains
allready are, and some areas are worse than they once were. Saying its all
better dosen't really help a thing, but feeds directly into the Repub.
attempt to gut environmental protection.

		Dave Braun
 




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