Subject: Are there jobs for Biologists?

From: [email-masked]
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:41:18 -0500

Hi, i'm considering going to school to study biology. i would like to know
    if there presently are jobs in this field and what is predicted for      
    years to come. does anyone know of a web site that would be helpful?
    also, if there are jobs what area are they in?
    thanks!  
           mark - please email me with responce to [email-masked]

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From: [email-masked](brett rowley)
Date: 17 Dec 1996 13:13:02 GMT

>           mark - please email me with responce to [email-masked]

Hey Mark,

Biology jobs are a little more difficult to come by than "real" jobs.  My
biologist friends and I are always kidding around about getting a real job,
somehow, we never quite manage to get a round to it.  

I am a fish culturist, as are many of my biologist friends.  Many more work
in labs and in the field.  A few of them make really good money, most get
by.  

I wouldn't go back and change, even though my engineer friends, doctor
friends, and high school grad friends mostly make more money than I do. 
Most of them don't like thier jobs, I love mine.  My office is as big as
all outdoors.  The sunrise is all mine, as is the sunset.  Somehow, I
manage to spend some time with my family as my schedule is not set in
stone, rather with the seasons, and daily weather.  I shuffle my fair share
of papers, and then some, but I shuffle more fish than papers.  I feel the
challenge of each day as an opportunity to learn more about the intracacies
and vagaries of life.  

I might not have lots of money, but I got a Ford pickup with a radio and a
shotgun.  I have lakes and ponds full of fish, none are really mine, but
all of them are mine, a whole county full.  When I go fishing, I get a
bigger thrill out of catching something unusual in my castnet, or on my
line than the next guy gets from a big redfish.  When the discussion in a
group turns to things of life, I become the one that everybody looks to for
the answer, respect of my friends in the community is almost better than
cash.  

I would encourage any young person that is dedicated and enthusiastic
to pursue a career in life science.  It will be a rocky path for sure,
but rewarding in more ways than can be counted.  The biggest reward of
all is the continued search for and finding of new knowledge.  A day
does not go by where I don't learn something new and exciting about the
world in which we live.  

I guess then the answer is, yes, there are jobs for biologists.  IMHO,
pursuing a career in biology is as noble and rewarding as any other. 
Do it, and have a full and rewarding life.  Best of luck,

Brett Rowley
Fisheries Biologist
Great Lakes Sportfishing Resort and Koi Breeding Farm
West Columbia, Texas

http://waterscapes.com

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From: "Arthur E. Sowers" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:38:42 -0500

>            mark - please email me with responce to [email-masked]

I have written a series of essays about this AND have collected a number
of website URLs relating to jobs in science. See below. You did not say
what kind of school you are aiming for and what school(s) you have been
to. You are wise to ask now if there are any jobs in this field before you
begin studies. Its also wise to start asking where you might look for
listings of openings. So, you if you want to look on the web, then see
below. Many of those websites will include links to still others that are
not on my list. After you have taken a few days to sample the information
on these sites, you may have a better idea of what lays ahead of you. Then
you can come back to the newsgroup <sci.research.careers> (or others if
you so wish) and ask for further details from those who hang out here on a
regular basis.

Art Sowers 

________________________________________________________________________
  rev Dec 1,1996   "Contemporary Problems in Sci Jobs" (=CPSJ) essays: 
  a 2nd Edition of CPSJ is available by e-mail from the author, 
  <[email-masked]> or at any of the following web sites with
  conditional unrestricted royalty-free reproduction rights. Earlier 
  versions of the "Contemporary Problems in Science Jobs" essays may be
  found at:   
  http://www.mbb.yale.edu/acb/                                          
  http://chemistry.com/ (dig around)                                    
  http://his.com/~graeme/cpsj.html    and ***/cpsj2.html                
  http://www.access.digex.net/~arthures/homepage.htm     (my WWW site)  
  cited at: http://www.netcom.com/~stanton/biojobs.html
WE APPRECIATE E-MAIL & NOTIFICATION OF OTHER RELEVANT INTERNET RESOURCES 
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| (rev Oct 12,'96) Some Net resources on PhD careers & job market:      
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  Nat Acad study on where PhDs eventually go:                           
       http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/grad/                       
        "          "     /     "     /  "  / "  /appendixc.html         
  Goodstein Report: http://www.caltech.edu/~goodstein                   
  Nasty politics:  http://his.com/~graeme/pandp.html                    
  Another analysis of the poor job market and its causes:        
  http://www.mit.edu:8001/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/e/r/erw/Public/Pandora.html
 "The Scientist"- newspaper about scientist careers:                   
      http://www.the-scientist.library.upenn.edu                       
      gopher://ds.internic.net/11/pub/the-scientist (txt, partials)    
 AAAS (the situation of postdocs):                                     
      http://www.edoc.com/nextwave/forums_postdoc/                     
 AAUP Listserver: [email-masked] - leave sub=blank  -           
      put in text of message:  subscribe aaup-general                  
 AAUP email address: [email-masked]                                  
 Other scientist employment resource info can be found at:             
      http://his.com/~graeme/employ.html (best I've seen yet)           
      http://saa49.ucsf.edu/psa/                                       
 YSN website is at: http://www.physics.uiuc.edu/     (hunt around)     
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| the following list of website URIs need the "http://" URL prefix      |
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| From Wall St. Journal (Sept 20,1996, p.B1) article on Net job hunting |
| America's Job Bank:    www.ajd.dni.us                                 |
| CareerPath:            www.careerpath.com                             |
| Online Career Center:  www.occ.com                                    |
| CareerMosaic:          www.careermosaic.com                           |
| Help Wanted USA:       iccweb.com     (not a typo)                    |
| Monster Board:         www.monster.com                                |
| E-Span:                www.espan.com                                  |
| Career Magazine:       www.careermag.com                              |
| Career City:           www.careercity.com                             |
| NationJob Net:         www.nationjob.com                              |
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| (revised Nov 23, 1996) OTHER RELATED Website URIs:                    |
| NES (very mild)        pegasus.uthct.edu/nes.html                     |
| Top Job                www.topjobusa.com                              |
| Fisk Book              www.agu.org/careerguide  (go for links)        |
| Career CD-ROM          www.careertoolbox.com    (sponsor: ChavisRegal)|
| KellyScientific        www.kellyservices.com                          |
| Space Jobs             www.spacejobs.com                              |
| Chemistry Jobs         chemistry.mond.org/jobs/jobguide.html          |
| Chem & Industry        ci.mond.org                                    |
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From: [email-masked] (Dave Jensen)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:04:17 -0700

>Great Lakes Sportfishing Resort and Koi Breeding Farm

Hi Brett

Thanks for this post. It was genuine and filled with a perspective that
gets lost in all the discussion about up-or-down job markets.

regards

Dave Jensen
http://www.bio.com/hr/search/search_1.html