Subject: Re: grass eating carp

From: [email-masked] (Zapitb4)
Date: 24 Jul 1995 13:57:24 -0400

B careful. Start with 1 or 2. The recommendation is 8 per vegated acre.
Our pond is 15.5 acres. In 86 the home owners put in 350. Our pond is now
void of vegation. Fishing is severly damaged. The reconstuction will take
years. I repeat b careful. Start with as few as possible.

The are very difficult to catch once introduced.

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From: [email-masked] (Tim Barkley)
Date: 25 Jul 1995 19:44:58 GMT

They are called by various names among them 'buffalo carp' and by
White Amur.  They are triploids(sp?).  They should be available from 
most fingerling suppliers. 

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked] writes:

>    I have a small pond in Northern IL and currently suffering from a
> weed problem.  I would like to put grass eating carp into the pond but
> I'm not sure where to get them or how many to get.  I know they need
> to be sterile.  The pond is about 1 and a half acres.  Any info would
> be appreciated.
> 
> Brian and the Duck
>

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From: [email-masked] (Ralph Phenix)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 04:05:05 GMT

>Brian and the Duck

Most triploid grass carp can be purchased in Arkansas.  Be sure to
check with your state wildlfe department to see if grass carp are
legal.
Reno, Nevada
[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Hynes)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 03:54:10 GMT

>Brian and the Duck

Brian,

It is my understanding that normally sterile grass eating
carp are employed.  However, some unethical vendors have
been selling non-sterile fish as sterile.

In WI, MN, MI it is against the law to bring in either
sterile or non-sterile fish.  I'm not sure of the status in
IL.  In WI you will pay for the DNR to kill and remove all
fish, even in a private pond, if they become aware of these
fish in the state. Has happened to some golf courses. 

There has been some studies which indicate an increase in
the amount of algae after introduction of these fish.  The
fish do not digest very thoroughly.  This resulted in
detrimental effects on light penetration which killed the
desired plants, habitat, etc. wreaking more havoc than the
weeds which they were cure.

A group of us wanted to do a commercial venture to control
millfoil in lakes.  A member of the WI DNR relayed this
information  via telecon. 

PS: I threw out the address, but the vendor was in Ohio.

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Hynes)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 03:50:28 GMT

Brian,

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From: [email-masked] (Tom Hynes)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 04:19:16 GMT

Brian,