Subject: Native Fish

From: [email-masked] (Jennifer Major)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:05:40 GMT

I am looking for some information on Native Fish.  I am trying to set
up a 75 gallon tank this winter.  Is there a newsgroup dedicated to
Native Fish?  I have written away for a catolog on Native Fish.  It
came in the mail this week.  The catolog stated how big the fish would
get, and how much to buy them.  I need to know compatibility of the
fish.  I would appreciate any information.  Thanks.

Jennifer

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From: "Mark S. & Leslie Harlin" <[email-masked]>
Date: 22 Sep 1996 18:35:44 GMT

> fish.  I would appreciate any information.  Thanks.

Native to where?  Fresh water or marine?  Maybe you could try your
local county extension office.  Is there a local pond or aquarist's
club in your area?

Good luck.

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From: Darin=clapp%ts=deskcall%cs=[email-masked] (Darin Clapp)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:23:05 GMT

>Jennifer

Jennifer,
	You must remember that the internet and these newsgroups are worldwide
(ie If you are from Brazil, Discus angelfish and Neon tetras are
Native fish) I assume you are in North america.   I have not seen much
on the net about native fish of north america.  My suggestion would be
to go to a bookstore and look at a fishing magazine to get info about
the native habitats of the fish you are thinking about keeping then
try to replicate the habitats.

Have Fun
Darin

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From: Carl & Joyce Camper <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:20:00 -0700

> >fish.  I would appreciate any information.  Thanks.

I don't know of a new group but their is a List Serv called NANF.  There isn't a lot 
of traffic, but the next time something comes through I will try to get you together 
with them.

-- Carl
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From: Bootzy <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 20:32:37 -0500

Assuming you're talking about North American fish, which fish are you 
> fish.  I would appreciate any information.  Thanks.
 Which fish were you considering? There are hundreds of North American 
native fish, and many can be kept in the home aquarium. Darters, 
minnows, sunfish, bass, crappie, perches, the list goes on.

						Bootzy

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From: [email-masked] (Troy Hendrickson)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 03:47:41 GMT

Most mid west natives, at least the common ones suck as pike, pumpkin
seeds and bass will quickly out grow a 75 gallon tank, especially bass
and pike as they are extremely territorial. Some of the lesser minnows
could be kept, but with all of them, water conditions, especially
temps are a problem. Most species in my region are cold water and the
use of a chiller would be neccessary to keep in them in optimal
conditions.

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From: [email-masked](brett rowley)
Date: 23 Sep 1996 14:01:44 GMT

In <[email-masked]> [email-masked]

Jennifer,

I wrote an article on keeping native fish in aquaria for Honey Hole
Magazine (a Texas bass fishing publication) about a year or so ago.  I
have kept both fresh and marine species native to North America in
aquaria.  I'm assuming your talking American Natives here.  Of course
the peacock bass behind me here in my computer room are natives in
South America.  Anyway, you should check on the legality of keeping
native fish captive with your state's DNR or equivalent regulatory
authority.  Also the legality of collecting your own fish from  lakes,
streams, ditches, etc. Half the fun of keeping the fish is collecting
them.  I use a cast net, a minnow seine, dip net, and fish traps to
collect with.  You also need an aerated bait box or bucket for
transport.  Also you might be able to buy fingerlings from a private
hatchery.  You will need to learn the life history and needs such as
water quality and type of foods for your charges, all very fun and
interesting.  Here is a list of species I have found to do well in
aquaria;

Freshwater;
Largemouth bass, bluegill sunfish, longear sunfish, green sunfish,
longnose gar, alligator gar, spotted gar, hybrid striped bass, channel
catfish, blue catfish, bullhead catfish, madtom catfish, bowfin, golden
shiner, fathead minnow, common carp, red shiner, redear slider turtle,
common snapper, alligator snapper, softshell turtle, siren (Amphiuma),
ghost shrimp, red swamp crawfish, white crawfish, who knows what else.

difficult but possible freshwater species;
white and black crappie, redear sunfish, gizzard shad, pirate perch,
log perch, 

Saltwater species;
Red drum, pinfish, seargent major, barber pole shrimp, other shrinmps,
crabs, sea cucumbers, nudibranchs, mullet, ???

Hope this is useful, e-mail to me if you would like more info,

Brett Rowley
Fisheries Biologist
Great Lakes Sportfishing Resort and Koi Breeding Farm
West Columbia, Texas

http://waterscapes.com

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From: [email-masked] (Jay Exner)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:04:22 GMT

[email-masked] (Jennifer Major) wrote:
>I am looking for some information on Native Fish.
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NANFA is North American Native Fishes Association.
Keep your eyes on some of these newsgroups you
posted on, as the organization posts a FAQ or two
every month.

What I got on them out of most recent FAMA:

dues: US, Can & Mex - $15(US)/year.
elsewhere: $17(US).
For further info, contact:
Bruce Gebhardt
123 W Mount Airy Ave,
Philadelphia, PA 19119

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