From klier@cobra.uni.edu Sat Jan 28 23:50:16 EST 1995
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From: klier@cobra.uni.edu
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Subject: Re: Book on weeds?
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In article <3g3p6l$gev@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jstone9352@aol.com (JSTONE9352) writes:
> Does anyone know of a good book on weeds.?  What I am looking for is a
> book that is just about weeds and not flowers, trees and then weeds as a
> seperate section but just weeds only.  Something along the line of a Zim
> or Golden book, that is not too scientific but has illustrations and a
> brief description.  I saw one in a bookstore years ago but now I can't
> find one.           John S.


Where are you?  If you're in the north central US, I'd tell you to 
get a copy of Weeds of the North Central States from your local
cooperative extension office.  It's a thickish paperback that will
run you about $5.  My students can use the keys even on the first
day of class (I often start them out with those keys "for practice"),
and there are good line drawings and non-technical descriptions.

My favorite weed id book for the US is Conrad Muenscher's _Weeds_,
and you may be able to find old editions published by MacMillan
for a few bucks in a used book store.  There's an updated version
reflecting some name changes out in paperback from Cornell University
Press.

I like Muenscher because it's not just about weed identification,
(and it has great line drawings!) but it also has all sorts of
important information on the biology of each species.  Understanding
what conditions favor the growth of a certain weedy species sure
helps you control that weed with *much* less work.  The first edition
was done in 1935, I think, and the second in 1955... times when weed
control depended not on herbicides but on cultural controls, and
cultural controls are exactly what most gardeners should be using.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  Univ. Northern Iowa    klier@cobra.uni.edu



From amberlyn@comtch.iea.com Sat Jan 28 23:50:40 EST 1995
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JSTONE9352 (jstone9352@aol.com) wrote:
: Does anyone know of a good book on weeds.?  What I am looking for is a
: book that is just about weeds and not flowers, trees and then weeds as a
: seperate section but just weeds only.  Something along the line of a Zim
: or Golden book, that is not too scientific but has illustrations and a
: brief description.  I saw one in a bookstore years ago but now I can't
: find one.           John S.

The one I find so useful here in Spokane is _Weeds of the West_, 
published by the Western Society of Weed Science in cooperation with the 
Western US Land Grant Universities Cooperative Extension Services. This 
is a quality text with photographs of different stages of growth and 
different plant parts. Text is also highly descriptive. It includes a 
number of the grasses. The book is considered a bible to the Noxious Weed 
folks here.

For order info, write: The Western Society of Weed Science, PO Box 963, 
Newark CA 94560. This is a 600+ page book, no more technical than a good 
field guide, and sells (I think) somewhere around $20. 

Amberlyn


From jtmax@netcom.com Sat Jan 28 23:51:20 EST 1995
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From: jtmax@netcom.com (judith meskill)
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In article <75059.jware@cdpa.state.ms.us>, <jware@cdpa.state.ms.us> wrote:

> On 24 Jan 1995 15:50:29 -0500, 
> JSTONE9352  <jstone9352@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> >Does anyone know of a good book on weeds.?
> 
> The weed is in the eye of the beholder...<snip>
> 
> All kidding aside, such a book would be of great use. I would love to see 
> one with pictures/illustrations of the "weed" at differant stages in its 
> life cycle.
> 
One of my prize possessions is a book published by the Department of
Agriculture in Canada called "Farm Weeds" (1909)... It is replete with 76
full page water color illustration plates of "weeds" such as: Yellow Dock,
Sheep Sorrel, Chickweed, Nettle, Burdock, Evening Primrose... One farmer's
weeds are another gardener's herbs...

-- 
judith t. meskill
macintosh consultant & internet trainer
jtmax@netcom.com or judith_meskill@bmug.org


From jfsanders@delphi.com Sat Jan 28 23:51:46 EST 1995
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From: jfsanders@delphi.com (jack sanders)
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Subject: Book on weeds?
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In article <3g3p6l$gev@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jstone9352@aol.com (JSTONE9352) 
writes: 

> Does anyone know of a good book on weeds?

Try these:

COMMON WEEDS OF THE UNITED STATES, prepared by the Agriculture Research
    Service of the US Department of Agriculture, New York: Dover, 1971 (this
should be     still in print from Dover Books; includes grasses, but is mostly 
herbs; technical,     but very comprehensive; aimed at farmers; lots of B&W
drawings) 

Martin, Alexander C, WEEDS, New York: Golden Press, 1972 (a little
pocket-sized 
    Golden guide, with decent color illustrations but limited number of
species) 

Spencer, Edwin Rollin, ALL ABOUT WEEDS, New York: Dover, 1974 (another Dover
   reprint; 1957 original publication; very readable and interesting; called a 
Who's 
   Who among Weeds; a lot about 102 of the most common species; good reading)

Crocker, Lawrence J., WILDLY SUCCESSFUL PLANTS: A Handbook of North American
   Weeds, New York: Collier, 1977 (informative, entertaining, concise book by
a 
   Columbia University professor who has a good sense of humor; good on ways
to    eliminate weeds; probably out of print, but libraries may have)


Walters, Charles, Jr. WEEDS: Control without Poisons, Kansas City, Mo.: Acres
USA, 1991    (A comprehensive guide to weeds, aimed at farmers).


--Jack Sanders, Ridgefield, Conn., jfsanders@delphi.com
   (author of "Hedgemaids and Fairy Candles: The Lives and Lore of North
American    Wildflowers," TAB/McGraw-Hill, 1993 -- which sings the *praises*
of many weeds!) 


From jtmax@netcom.com Sat Jan 28 23:52:08 EST 1995
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From: jtmax@netcom.com (judith meskill)
Subject: Re: Book on weeds?
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In article <75059.jware@cdpa.state.ms.us>, <jware@cdpa.state.ms.us> wrote:

> On 24 Jan 1995 15:50:29 -0500, 
> JSTONE9352  <jstone9352@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> >Does anyone know of a good book on weeds.?
> 
> The weed is in the eye of the beholder...<snip>
> 
> All kidding aside, such a book would be of great use. I would love to see 
> one with pictures/illustrations of the "weed" at differant stages in its 
> life cycle.
> 
One of my prize possessions is a book published by the Department of
Agriculture in Canada called "Farm Weeds" (1909)... It is replete with 76
full page water color illustration plates of "weeds" such as: Yellow Dock,
Sheep Sorrel, Chickweed, Nettle, Burdock, Evening Primrose... One farmer's
weeds are another gardener's herbs...

-- 
judith t. meskill
macintosh consultant & internet trainer
jtmax@netcom.com or judith_meskill@bmug.org


