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  PERMACULTURE DESIGN COURSES WITH BILL MOLLISON AND SCOTT PITTMAN
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    (Permaculture <-- Permanent AgriCulture / Permanent Culture)

The only classes with Bill Mollison in the Northern Hemisphere in 1997!

    Bill Mollison has announced his retirement from teaching!
         This may be your last chance to take a course
              from the creator of Permaculture!

Southern California June 16-27, Near Santa Barbara
Northern California July 14-25, Near Half Moon Bay

This is a two week residential course with 72 hours of instruction.  

What are some of the things you'll learn in this course? 

 How to: 
  - Turn deserts into prairies within a year or two. 
  - "Read the land" for it's potential. 
  - Design inexpensive, environmentally sound buildings and 
    incorporate them ecologically into the landscape. 
  - Find land to farm in your community for $1 per acre per year. 
  - More than double the yield from your rangeland while 
    increasing soil fertility & the health of your herds. 
  - Avoid disaster; fully and thoroughly check out a piece of 
    land, inventory it's resources and problems before buying it. 
  - Become an Ecological Land Developer and provide as many as 
    three middle class incomes per acre in land based, value 
    added, agricultural enterprises. 
  - Rehabilitate destroyed soils to support limited agriculture 
    in a few months. 
  - Assemble high yield food forests. 
  - Create Oases in drylands-Growing trees without irrigation 
    using only 6 inches of rainfall. 
  - Desalinate salted land 

What's Special about these Courses? 

  Of course, any time Bill Mollison teaches, the course is special. 

Other unique aspects are: 

  - Our strong international recruitment, you'll be learning
    alongside colleagues from other countries. 

  - New material developed since the publication of Permaculture: A
    Designers' Manual. For instance, detailed information on the 
    nuts and bolts of CSA farming, retirement crops, how to devise 
    your farm/organization's legal structure to avoid paying 
    unnecessary taxes, examples of making a living in ways that 
    don't cause you to compromise your ecological/social values, 
    and Mollison's "Next Phase of Permaculture"-designing whole, 
    "self-building" fully self-sustaining towns. 
          
  - Invaluable new written handouts, illustrations & resource lists. 

  - Food will be largely organic and purchased or donated directly 
    from the farmers who produce it!!! 
  
  - Special guest presentations in the evenings. 

  - Scholarships to encourage participation by people of diverse 
    cultural and economic backgrounds. 
  
  - "Trade show" day with suppliers and manufacturers of 
    appropriate tech products which may be relevant to your own projects. 
  
  - College credit, and PCA credits applied for. 

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For more information check out the Web site at: 
      www.permaculture-institute.org

Or write Dave Blume at: dblume@permaculture-institute.org

Or write "real" mail to:

International Institute for Ecological Agriculture(IIEA)
PO Box 620930
Woodside, CA  94062-0930

Tel: 415-365-2993, Fax: 415-355-2241

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>     F S D   N E W S ,  J U L Y ,  1 9 9 7
>                   Edited by: Farm Management  and
>                  Production Economics Service, FAO
>
>
>1. STAKEHOLDER INSTITUTIONS
>
>*ISG International Support Group*
>ISG is a non-profit, decentralized international group registered in the
>Netherlands, and aims to combine or "weave" different methods of
>action research and to promote linkages between people for improved
>agroecosystem management. It supports the development of local
>inter-institutional groups comprising of farmers' organizations, NGOs
>and government research and extension agencies. ISG assists these
>groups in South-South exchange of local experience using common
>methodological frameworks. For more information, please contact
>Clive Lightfoot (clive.lightfoot@inter.NL.net).

>Internet homepage: http://www.ids.ac.uk/eldis/isg/isg.html

>*SRISTI  Society for Research and Initiatives for Sustainable
>Technologies and Institutions*
>SRISTI is a major network of grassroots innovators which has
>established one of the largest data bases on environmentally-
>friendly innovations by rural people. It is also distinguished by
>their opposition to RRA/PRA methods (see below). Their news-
>letter titled Honeybee is an excellent source of information
>on indigenous knowledge and local information. For more
>information please contact Prof. Anil K. Gupta, Co-ordinator
>SRISTI  & Honey Bee network  (anilg@iimahd.ernet.in).

>http://csf.colorado.edu/sristi
>gopher://csf.colorado.edu/11/environment/sristi


>2. NEW FSD METHODOLOGIES
>
>*Farming Systems Environmental Indicators*
>OECD is currently developing a set of national level agri-
>For more information, please contact Jennifer Green
>( jennifer_green@dai.com).

>3.  NEW SYSTEMS

>*Peri-urban system research , Kumasi, northern Ghana*
>The Department for International Development (formerly ODA) and
>the Natural Resources Institute (NRI) are investigating the management
>of natural resources in Kumasi's peri-urban interface, considered to be
>
>6. FSD-RELATED NETWORKS
>
>*LSIRD network*
>The LSIRD network represents an European Union support for
>concerted action to co-ordinate research into livestock systems in
>less-favored European areas.
>Homepage: http://www.mluri.sari.ac.uk/~mi361/lsird.htm
>If you are interested, please subscribe at that website, or
>contact Jerry Laker (mi361@mluri.sari.ac.uk)
>
>*FIDAMERICA InterCambio Electronic Forum*
>The forum includes information about past and ongoing electronic
>conferences and online databases. RIMISP and INFORUM, who
>initially set up the InterCambio Electronic Forum, are looking for
>other partners who are interested in becoming members of
>InterCambio or in using its services. For more information
>contact Julio Berdegue (rimisp@reuna.cl).
>Website: http://www.intercambio.cl
>
>
>7. NEW PUBLICATIONS (Electronic or Print)
>
>*G. Shivakoti, G. Varughese, E. Ostrom, A. Shukla, G. Thapa (Eds.)
>(1997): People and Participation in Sustainable Development.
>Understanding the Dynamics of Natural Resource Systems.
>Proceedings of an International Conference, Bloomington/Rampur.
>9. THE FSD ELECTRONIC LIBRARY
>
>This Electronic Library has been set up and we have just
>begun the process of making available documents that can be
>retrieved by Email. Please refer to FSDnews No. 1 for details.
>
>11. EDITORS COMMENTS
>
>We sincerely hope that FSDnews turns out to be valuable to you
>the FSD practitioner. As editors we will do our best to keep it
>relevant and useful, but concise; like many of you we also suffer
>from information overload and we realize that the last thing
>that you want is an Email message coming in each month with
>information that is not useful or valuable. Please feel free to send
>in your comments and suggestions to the email address:
>
>Farming-Systems@FAO.ORG
>
>Regards
>The FSDnews Editors
>John Dixon, Martin Maurer (for Anselm Duchrow)
>
> -------------------   THE END   --------------------
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Dear Colleagues and Friends,

The Central American Institute of Prehistoric and Traditional Cultures at Belize
urgently needs your assistance.  The Institute has the largest research and
educational library in Belize, consisting of irreplaceable books, photographs,
artifacts, field notes, and other archival materials.  The cumulative effect of
last year's rain storms damaged the library and archival storage.  Algae,
microflora, worms, and the dense tropical moisture penetrated our building,
rapidly destroying the collection.  We have managed to take part of the collection
out of the severely damaging environment.  It is presently boxed in an
air-conditioned storage facility in Miami, awaiting necessary attention.  Part of
the collection is still in Belize, waiting for additional funds needed to retreive
it.  Through volunteer efforts, everything possible was done to slow down the
damage.  Still, unless everything is removed, and professional conservation
measures taken, the damage cannot be halted.  Several of our staff members have
returned to the United States to appeal for help in rescuing this irreplaceable
resource.  We have initiated a Library Rescue Operation to raise emergency
funds, and urgently need your support.

The Central American Institute, located in the Cayo District, was established
under a registry charter in 1991, and granted full recognition by the Ministry of
Education of the Government of Belize, in accordance with the Education Act of
1991, Section 38. The Institute is a non-profit, research, and educational
institution, established for the purposes of promoting the preservation of
ancient and traditional worldviews and materials, and to act as a center for the
dissemination of knowledge and interest in the study of such cultures.  The
Institute aims at preserving indigenous cultures through the preservation of
traditional knowledge.

The library and archives form an integral part of its mission and activities, and
we have amassed important data in the areas of consciousness studies,
shamanism, rainforest and traditional healing techniques, and alternative
medicine.  The collection contains documentation of indigenous groups that
are facing cultural assimilation.  If these field notes, slides, photographs, and
artifacts are destroyed, there will be no way to replace them.  The collection
also consists of plant specimens and materials collected through ethnobotanical
fieldwork, documenting and exploring the medicinal value of rain forest flora.
The destruction of this information would be a great loss to all who value our
planet's biodiversity, and seek new medical solutions to today's health problems.
Furthermore, the Institute's collection consists of some rare and out-of-print
books, providing an extremely valuable resource to ethnologists, botanists,
pharmacologists, historians, and others.  The collection also contains research
and documentation about the Maya, Creole, and Garifuna populations of Belize and
the neighboring regions.  The data, however, are not limited to Central America,
but contain information on cultures around the world: from South America, to the
Middle East, to Siberia.  Once this material is lost, this cultural and educational
resource will be gone forever.

The rescue is to be carried out in three phases, as follows:
Phase I:  Salvage: Remove and Store.
          The collection needs to be dried, repacked, and shipped to a safe,
temporary storage facility until we can rehabilitate a facility for the collection.
This will require movers, customs fees, transport fees, and storage fees,
totaling $60,000.
Phase II: Restoration and Conservation.
           Professional restoration and preservation of the collection: books, field
notes, plant specimens, photographs, slides, audio and video recordings,
computer disk repairs.  Total: $25,000 (contingent on rescue time).
Phase III: Provide a safe facility for the collection.
             Construct safe housing for the library and archives, so that it can be
brought back into circulation.  Total: $55,000.

Emergency Fund Goal: US $140,000.

We still need funds to complete Phase I before we can proceed with the Library
Rescue.  We have volunteers waiting to begin with the conservation task, but we
are short of funds to subsidize the efforts.  We also need help to disseminate
this appeal to other parties within your own, as well as other related
organizations and memberships, in the hopes of consolidating our efforts to save
the Institute's research and cultural resources.

We turned to major foundations for assistance in this emergency situation.
Among others, the Coca-Cola Foundation, which has major interests in Belize and
claims to specialize in education, sent us a pamphlet, three weeks after our
emergency request, without even a letter acknowledging receipt of our appeal.
The MacArthur Foundation in Chicago, which lists Belize as a target area for its
mission, turned us down based solely on a query.  As yet, we have not received
any help from a funding organization, although we continue with our efforts.
Therefore, we decided to turn to several targeted sectors of Internet users.
Never before has the Institute asked or received any public support for its
operations.

We can provide documentation of our non-profit and educational status, and a
detailed break-down of the allocation of funds.  Further information about the
Institute can be obtained on our Website at http://world.std.com/~chacmol/ .
The Institute is also listed in Issue 4 of the People and Plants Handbook,
published by World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF), UNESCO, and Royal Botanic
Gardens-Kew.

In these times of modernization, Westernization, and technology, traditional
life is being displaced and destroyed irrevocably.  It is imperative that we
preserve cultural and natural resources, traditional epistemologies, and
biodiversity.  We appeal to you to support the Central American Institute in its
drive to preserve these resources for the benefit of the developing country of
Belize, as well as the global community.

Due to the fact that we are trying to reach as wide an audience as possible, some
cross-postings are inevitable.  Please, accept our apologies.  We all thank you for
your understanding and support.


Sincerely,

Dr. Michael Naxon
Professor and Director

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Emergency Fund
Central American Institute at Belize
8033 Sunset Blvd.
Suite 2040
Los Angeles, CA  90046
818-344-8516 (Emergency Fund line)
Arctos@worldnet.att.net
http://world.std.com/~chacmol/
Checks can be made payable to: Central American Institute.
Your contribution will be formally recognized by the Institute, as well as on our
homepage.
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Venaura Farm
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 17:52:07 -0700
From: "David B. Hannaway" <david@forages.CSS.ORST.EDU>
To: forage-mg@web.CSS.ORST.EDU
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Subject: New Book Announcement - Toxicology

Forage Colleagues:

This note is to announce the availability of a new book entitled  
"Natural Toxicants in Feeds, Forages, and Poisonous Plants."

The book is authored by Dr. Peter Cheeke, Department of Animal  
Science, Oregon State University.
His email address is cheekep@ccmail.orst.edu
The publisher is Interstate Publishers, Inc., Danville, Illinois.   
They have a WWW segment, URL is http://www.ippinc.com/

We have developed a WWW page describing the book.
The page lists the name, author, publisher (with a link to the  
publisher's WWW segment), description, and contents information.
The URL for the book description is:   
http://www.forages.css.orst.edu/Resources/Media/Publications/Cheeke.html

Purchase price is $39.95 plus shipping.

Here's one of the paragraphs from the book description brochure:

"Natural Toxicants in Feeds, Forages, and Poisonous Plants, Second  
Edition provides a comprehensive treatment of natural toxicants in  
plants consumed by domestic animals and in crop plants used in human  
nutrition. It emphasizes the occurrence of toxins in plants, their  
metabolism and toxilogic effects in animals, and means of overcoming  
their effects. The book will be useful as a text for students in  
disciplines such as Animal Science, Agronomy and Crop Science, Range  
Management, Forestry, Wildlife Science, Veterinary Medicine,  
Toxicology, Food Science, and Nutrition."

I believe it is also an important reference for forage and  
livestock extension folks, consultants, and perhaps producers as  
well. I've already found the book useful and am confident many of  
you will find it an important resource.

=========

If others have books of potential interest to the forages mailing  
group, feel free to send me information for posting or send an  
informational note to the mailing group.  Although this group is not  
intended to be "advertising space," I believe it is appropriate to  
announce items that would be of educational interest to the group.

David

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David B. Hannaway
Forage Extension, Research & Teaching
Department of Crop & Soil Science
Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR 97331-3002
Phone: 541-737-5863
Fax: 541-737-1589
E-Mail: david@forages.css.orst.edu
URL: http://www.forages.css.orst.edu
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Venaura Farm
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From: Charles Brummer <brummer@iastate.edu>
To: forage-mg@web.CSS.ORST.EDU
Subject: Wanted:  old reed canarygrass varieties

Do any of you have access to the following varieties of reed canarygrass
that I'm trying to track down for establishment next month?  Ideally, I'd
like about a pound of each.

Auburn
Castor
Flare
Frontier
Grove
Ioreed
Rise
Superior

Thanks for any leads.

Charlie


Charles Brummer
Forage Breeding and Genetics
Agronomy Department
Iowa State University
Ames, IA  50011
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Schapper's article is available on the Web at
http://www.csu.edu.au/research/crsr/ruralsoc/v6n2p3.htm

Other rural information and some of the other chapters are
also available.

http://www.csu.edu.au/research/crsr/centre.htm

Frank




> Date:          Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:16:04 WST
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> From:          vic@daena.eepo.com.au (Victor Guest)
> To:            fvanclay@CSU.edu.au
> Subject:       Re: Critical Landcare edited book

> >Critical Landcare
> >Centre for Rural Social Research Key Papers Number 5
> >edited by Stewart Lockie and Frank Vanclay
> >published by the Centre for Rural Social Research, Charles Sturt
> >University, June 1997.
> 
> 
> >8 Henry Schapper, Western Australia's agriculture and
> >    pastoralism in cultural and ecological perspective
> 
> I would be interested in Henry's paper as his Economics "Get Big or Get
> Out" are largely responsible for WA's enviromental disaster.
> 
> I am not an academic having had 35 years as a practical farmer. I must 
> admit to being highly cynical of the academic approach to Landcare.
> 
*************************************************************
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Schapper's article is available on the Web at
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Other rural information and some of the other chapters are
also available.

http://www.csu.edu.au/research/crsr/centre.htm

Frank




> Date:          Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:16:04 WST
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> To:            fvanclay@CSU.edu.au
> Subject:       Re: Critical Landcare edited book

> >Critical Landcare
> >Centre for Rural Social Research Key Papers Number 5
> >edited by Stewart Lockie and Frank Vanclay
> >published by the Centre for Rural Social Research, Charles Sturt
> >University, June 1997.
> 
> 
> >8 Henry Schapper, Western Australia's agriculture and
> >    pastoralism in cultural and ecological perspective
> 
> I would be interested in Henry's paper as his Economics "Get Big or Get
> Out" are largely responsible for WA's enviromental disaster.
> 
> I am not an academic having had 35 years as a practical farmer. I must 
> admit to being highly cynical of the academic approach to Landcare.
> 
> 
> Regards,
>           Vic
> --
> Victor Guest   V.G.Guest                       Perth, Western Australia
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Announcing the Earthship Alliance WebSite within the Earthship Global
WebSite!

http://www.earthship.org/ally.htm

Including:

(@) Treatise article I
(a) Purpose article II
(b) Specifics article III
(c) Clarification of Membership article IV
(d) Benefits article V
(e) Procedures article VI
(f) Earthship School article VII
(g) Certification article VIII
(h) Requirements article IX
  
    SOLAR SURVIVAL CERTIFICATION PROGRAM
  
    The Solar Survival Certification Program is for people who have read
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    The certification program is scheduled to begin each month with the
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about
what particular stage or system is being worked on at various sites so
that
you can choose what is of particular interest to you.
  
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WebGarden Resources--Ohio State University
Factsheet Database
http://www.hcs.ohio-state.edu/hcs/webgarden/FactsheetFind.html
Plant Dictionary
http://www.hcs.ohio-state.edu/hcs/TMI/TR2/pmTOC.html
Two excellent resources in the Ohio State University's WebGarden, provided
by OSU's
Horticulture and Crop Science in Virtual Perspective site, are the
Factsheet Database and Plant
Dictionary. The first is a browsable and searchable database of over 5,500
horticultural factsheets in
eleven categories ranging from flowers to perennials to trees and shrubs.
These factsheets have been
produced by over 40 (mostly university extension) institutions. The Plant
Dictionary is a searchable
and browsable ornamental plant database of over 1,400 "images and
horticultural descriptions for
385 unique species and numerous cultivars." Searching is available on
scientific, family, or common
name, and a small database of images relating to insects, diseases, or
culture of ornamental plants is
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Subject: In Defense of Earthship Communities
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:19:05 -0600
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for general press release: as soon as possible.



The following facts can all be substantiated:
Solar Survival Architecture, under direction of Michael Reynolds has
developed three SELF-SUSTAINING INTENTIONAL COMMUNITIES over the last five
years near Taos, New Mexico.
These communities are a forum for the demonstration and evolution of the
Earthship concept which is a result of almost 30 years of research and
development and which presents serious steps toward solutions to the
following global problems: HOUSING, DEFORESTATION, WATER, SEWAGE POLUTION,
ENERGY, EMPLOYMENT, RECLAIMATION OF DAMAGED LANDS AND REUSE OF PROBLEM
BY-PRODUCTS OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY.
These self-sustaining communities were formed with extensive legal
supervision and have been in existence for over five years. Over 50
building permits have been issued in these communities during this time by
the State of New Mexico and Taos County.
The most visible community (The Greater World Community) has become a
school and an environmental theme park of sorts as a result of world wide
interest in the many environmentally appropriate energy, water, sewage, and
building evolutions on display. This community represents the results of
almost 30 years of research by Architect Michael Reynolds and promises to
continue to provide very pragmatic methods of using natural phenomenon to
provide utilities for energy efficient housing made from problem
by-products of our society.
All research and developmental work both leading up to and during the
existence of these communities has been hand in hand with the Uniform
Building Code and the New Mexico Construction Industries Division as the
objective of this work is to provide solutions that will dovetail into
existing dogma.
Officials of the Taos County Planning department (pressured by local
conventional developers) challenged the nature of these communities in late
1993 regarding a possible violation of subdivision law. At that time an
examination of the communities was conducted by the county attorney and the
communities were given a "green light".
As a result of this "green light" by the Taos County Attorney, many
individuals became involved and much more time, energy and money was
invested to take this evolution and demonstration project to new levels
specifically at the Greater World Community.
Now in 1997, new people are in office as county attorney and county planner
and private developers have again urged a challenge on the research and
development work going on in these communities, specifically The Greater
World Community.
President Clinton has recently declared that the green house effect is now
fact not just theory. He is urging the encouragement of more environmentally
 appropriate methods of living as well as more creative methods of
encouraging citizens to use these methods.
In that the Greater World Community needs no public utilities, no
infrastructure, and is being used as a single tract of land with many
people building on it, thus eliminating expensive surveying costs; the
price for an individual to (on a membership basis) purchase the right to
build an energy efficient home here is radically less expensive than
conventional land developments. This, in turn, results in a very creative
method of encouraging people to build an energy efficient and more
environmentally appropriate home. The result is that private individuals
are actually supporting and participating in the evolution of
energy-efficient housing.
As a result of the recent challenge by current Taos County politics,
building permits have been held up at the Earthship Communities of Taos,
New Mexico and "Stop Orders" have been issued.
In view of the current condition of the planet and the resulting urgency
there of, we do not feel the actions of local authorities are appropriate.
The people of the Greater World Community who are actively participating in
the evolution, development and presentation of more appropriate and
sustainable ways to live on this planet are now being forced to defy the
local politicians and stand to suffer serious consequences for their
actions. We feel our right to survive is being threatened and we feel we
are acting in self defense.
Our solution is to declare the Greater World Community an Environmental
Research and Development Institute. People already come from all over the
world to observe and stay in Earthships and to participate in our school
which has been in existence for six years. In a State the has designated
several thousand acres for the development and testing of nuclear devices
for the destruction of humanity, it would only seem appropriate to
designate 650 acres for research and development toward the survival of
humanity.

For those interested in writting a letter, we have written an endorsement
letter for you to copy, print, sign or use in any way in this matter:



To Whom it may concern:



We are aware of the work and research of Michael Reynolds in the realm of
energy efficient housing in the Taos, New Mexico area. We are aware of the
fact that this work touches upon solutions to many State, National and
Global problems. These passive solar homes, which are built from recycled
automobile tires, collect their own power and water, treat and contain
their own sewage, heat and cool themselves and produce some food. These
homes are being built in an intentional community funded by its
participants which also involves a school that has been in existence for
six years teaching the results of almost 30 years of research. Part of this
project is even reclaiming an existing gravel pit with architecture that
"greens up" around itself due to the contained sewage systems. We are aware
of the fact that Michael Reynolds has worked very closely with the New
Mexico C.I.D. regarding code compliance and specific permission to conduct
this ongoing research for almost thirty years. We understand that his
projects have received global recognition and exist in many foreign
countries such as Bolivia, Japan, Mexico , Australia, etc.

In view of the Presidents recent proclamation regarding global warming and
the resulting urgency of the environmental situation, we support and urge
action to be taken regarding Mr. Reynolds request to have his 650 acre
project site be proclaimed an Environmental Research and Development
Institute. It is our feeling that this act will pacify the local developers
and county planning officials that are harassing Mr. Reynolds with regard
to basic subdivision law (which we understand has not been legally violated
anyway). This harassment has resulted in a "stop order" on Mr. Reynolds
work. We feel that Mr. Reynolds 30 year body of work on a global level of
environmental and energy issues warrants priority over local politics. In a
State that designated several thousand acres for testing of nuclear devices
for the destruction of humanity, it only seems appropriate to designate 650
acres for research toward the survival of humanity.

Michael and Jonah Reynolds
Earthship Global Operations
505.751.0462
http://www.earthship.org

Become Part of Lemuria and reclaim a
Gravel Pit !
http://www.earthship.org/lem.htm 

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Friends,

Does anyone know if/where I can obtain tree onions in Western Australia -
the quarantine regulations seem to restrict seed companies from sending them
here.

Cheers,
Helen Coleman

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Dear Pat,

After ringing people from Exmouth to Busselton I had no luck in finding
anyone actually growing tree onions, but my local nurseryman had a catalogue
from Tesselaar Bulbs and Flowers, 357 Monbulk Rd, Silvan Vic 3795: 20 bulbs
for $8.50.  They don't seem to have a restriction on sending the material to
WA, unlike other mail-order companies I've tried.

Regards,
Helen Coleman

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From: <DI891@OASIS.CALPOLY.EDU>

From: Rob Rutherford
Animal Science Department
Cal Poly

I have enjoyed seeing the comments over the last few weeks regarding Mr.
Avery's approach to saving the world. I was introduced to the book by one of
the department head's here at the University. I read a bit of it, enough to
know that I wasn't likely to gain a lot more wisdom by reading the whole thing
- maybe a mistake - but I started to raise the same sorts of questions and
viewpoints being expressed on this conference.

The more I thought about it, however, the more I tended to drift to another
concern. The department head I mentioned happens to be the head of the
Agriculture Education department. They are responsible for the credentialling
of most of the secondary school teachers involved with agriculture - over 1000
teachers state wide. He is totally taken with Avery's approach, and plans to
make the blueprint for the strategic plan for education in agriculture in
California from now until the year 2020. Politically, this group is very
strong and well positioned to make this happen. I am then reminded - this is
how knowledge is created in our society. Here is a very articulate writer and
speaker, whose message fits the current paradigm - and appears to address the
concerns of the "environmentalists" (who are stuck in the same decision making
mode) - so obviously, the message is perfectly understood. Unfortunately, the
system is in place to further reinforce the current paradigms through the
highest levels of government and down through the education system.

How do we break through?

Rob Rutherford

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Subject: RODALE GardenFest '97 and BIODYNAMICS

RODALE's Annual GardenFest '97 will be held in Kutztown, PA on Saturday,
August 2.

John Jeavons (ECOLOGY ACTION) is the keynote speaker.

Howard Yanno Shapiro, founder of Seeds of Change is giving two workshops on
diversity and beauty plus many many more speakers and workshops  will be
available throughout the day (and GREAT SALES on RODALE PRESS BOOKS!!)

-PLUS-

the BIODYNAMIC ASSOCIATION will staff and stock an information table at
this event.

Please drop by and pick up a FREE COPY of Issue 212 (JULY AUGUST) of
"BIODYNAMICS, Farming and Gardening in the 21st Century,"  the bi-monthly
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as a STUNNING study of  the cost/benefits of  'forced' composting vs
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(If the printer is on the ball, the 1998 STELLA Natura planting calendars
will be available at the BD table also!)



Hope to See You There Tomorrow!!

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From: "Wyatt Fraas" <ceruaf01@nol.org>

Yes, Constance, thank you.  That publication is Intensive Agriculture 
and Environmental Quality: Examining the Newest Agricultural Myth, by 
Tracy Irwin Hewitt and Katherine R. Smith, published in the September, 
1995 issue of the Report from the Henry A. Wallace Institute for 
Alternative Agriculture.  Additional copies are available for $4.00:
Wallace Institute, 9200 Edmonston Rd, Ste 117, Greenbelt, MD, USA 
20770-1551.  (hawiaa@access.digex.net).

An excellent critical review of Avery's book was published in the Land 
Stewardship Letter, May/June 1995, by Brian DeVore.  Contact the Land 
Stewardship Project, 2200 4th St, White Bear Lake, MN, USA  55110.

--  Wyatt Fraas


On 29 Jul 97 at 5:39, cneely@uga.cc.uga.edu wrote:

From: Constance Neely <cneely@uga.cc.uga.edu>

I just came in on this, but i have heard very uncomfortable remarks
about Avery from colleagues that saw him speak recently.  The Henry
Wallace Institute did an excellent "rebuttal" of his premises on
conventional agriculture in a an issue of their newsletter last year.
Constance

ceruaf01@nol.org wrote:

> From: "Wyatt Fraas" <ceruaf01@nol.org>
>
> Victor - I don't know WHO Dennis Avery is, but his position is
> Director
> of the Center for Global Food Issues at the Hudson Institute, commonly
>
> cited as "a conservative think tank" (540-337-6320).  He edits the
> Global Food
> Quarterly newsletter: Hudson Institute, 5935 Emerson Way,
> Indianapolis, Indiana USA 46226, 317-545-1000.
>
> --  Wyatt Fraas
>
> On 26 Jul 97 at 2:00, victor.guest@eepo.com.au wrote:
>
> I have still to find out about Mr. Avery's book.
>
> Regards,
>           Vic
> --
> Victor Guest   V.G.Guest                       Perth, Western
> Australia
> victor.guest@eepo.com.au                  11 Carew Place Greenwood
> 6024
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> Wyatt Fraas
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Try something simple like  ..... A culture or way of living and 
designing things that makes it cheap, healthy, sustainable and good
fun to live well.


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>I am cross posting this because this is where the fight is. I have heard 
>that other countries have similar problems ie. a collective 5 mill tonne
>heap of pig manure in the Netherlands.

>Vegetarians have "crossed over" and are willing to entertain the idea that
>such creatures might have "identity" and might feel the immensity of their
>suffering. To the carnivore, its just plenty of meat.
>
ETCETERA

> Agriculture is being abandoned to the industrialists because citizens are
>not protesting in the faces of their elected representatives. A great
>tradition and way of life for middle class people which strenthens our
>democratic and independent-minded culture is being destroyed. 

" when the shit hits the fan" the people will become active and want answers.

Meanwhile I suggest we just keep on getting good at having a damn good time
building our own permaculture gardens, communities and networks so that
we have the answers when people ask.

Paul Meleng                            Perth, Western Australia
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Subject: Genetic Engineering. Was Dennis Avery

Is anyone aware of a good book/web site/listserv
which discusses critically and thoughtfully
the impacts of genetic engineering? 



Jim Wright
Box 129
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>Dear Pat,
>
>After ringing people from Exmouth to Busselton I had no luck in finding
>anyone actually growing tree onions, but my local nurseryman had a catalogue
>from Tesselaar Bulbs and Flowers, 357 Monbulk Rd, Silvan Vic 3795: 20 bulbs
>for $8.50.  They don't seem to have a restriction on sending the material to
>WA, unlike other mail-order companies I've tried.
>
>Regards,
>Helen Coleman
>
 Hi Helen,
          Check to make sure your not importing anything to effect your
garden.
They sound interesting, please let us know how they turn out. I'd be 
interested in trying some.
 
Regards,
          Vic
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Availability of a new software....
Visit http://www.pgris.com and Get a free copy of the Pedigree a
genetic resource inventory system for 37 horticyultural fruit crops

Pedigree for Windows (16 & 32 bit version) is user-friendly software
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From: JODY BUTTERFIELD <jodybs@igc.apc.org>

Dick,

We got our data on the amount of carbon grasslands are able to sequester
(compared to forests) from (Kansas State University ecologist) John Blair,
who has done most of his work in tall-grass prairies (I believe). Our focus
is on grassland fires because these contribute far more carbon to the
atmosphere than the burning of rainforests, which are far less extensive,
and the contribution to global warming/climate change of grassland biomass
burning is largely being ignored by those seeking to address global warming.
Animal impact of course, sets up a chain reaction of events that help
increase organic matter (improved habitat for dung beetles being one of them). 

--Jody

At 09:33 AM 7/31/97 -0700, Dick Richardson wrote:
>Jody, we did some "quick and dirty" calculations a few years ago regarding
>the sequestering of carbon as soil OM in prairies, and it was about half as
>much as a rainforest, but there was about twice as much area in grasslands.
>The turnover of carbon is far less rapid in grasslands also. Just how is
>this work you mentioned below being approached? It certainly is an
>important feature, and the effect of fire is just one part of the story.
>The dung beetles are another BIG factor in getting soil OM in deeper areas,
>and much faster than just plant roots. From a prairie restoration point of
>view, the dung beetles are a fantastic "accelerator" of the process, and,
>of course, need the "fresh manure spreaders" for their effects. (the last
>part is in Pat's article, as you know) So, I would also consider the joint
>role of animal impact, dung beetles, and reduced or avoidance of fire in
>the study.
>
>Dick
>
>
>At 06:11 AM 7/31/97 -0700, Jody Butterfield wrote:
>>From: JODY BUTTERFIELD <jodybs@igc.apc.org>
>>
>>To:  Noel McNaughton
>>
>>Dear Noel,
>>
>>Just got the most recent issue of The Holistic Manager. Appreciate your
>>reasons for leaving the farm and how you made the decision.
>>
>>I'm writing in response to your plans to interest Canadian farmers and
>>ranchers in selling carbon credits (based on the amount of carbon they are
>>able to sequester in soil organic matter) to coal/oil/gas companies.  In
>>your article you mention only forests as potential sites for sequestering
>>carbon, yet grasslands store twice as much carbon per acre of soil as
>>forests do. If you're talking to ranchers, most of whom have grasslands and
>>very little woodland, this is a big selling point!
>>
>>Were you aware that here at the Center we are working on a project along
>>related lines?  In our case, we're merely attempting to document just how
>>much carbon we can sequester in grasslands when they are maintained by
>>livestock as opposed to fire. The project was conceived in Africa where
>>millions of acres of grassland are burned each year, causing so much
>>pollution that acid rain is now worse there than it is in many
>>industrialized countries. We're trying to show that there is a viable
>>alternative to fire (the animals) and that they can more than make up for
>>the carbon spewing into the atmosphere from fires (biomass burning is as
>>great a problem as fossil-fuel burning when it comes to global warming). The
>>project has since been enlarged to include a monitoring site in the U.S.
>>(New Mexico/Arizona) and in Australia (NSW). 
>>
>>Please keep us posted on your efforts, and we'll do the same from our end.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Jody
>>
>>Jody Butterfield
>><jodybs@igc.apc.org>
>>Center for Holistic Management
>>1010 Tijeras NW
>>Albuquerque, New Mexico 87102 USA
>>Tel: 505/842-5252
>>Fax: 505/843-7900
>>
>>
>R. H. (Dick) Richardson                     (512) 471-4128 office
>Zoology Dept.                                     471-9651 FAX
>University of Texas                               
>Austin, TX 78712	
>
>

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my homepage has a lot of GEN. Eng. links.
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> 
> 
> 
> Jim Wright
> Box 129
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> 


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<H2>Biorealism: READING NATURE'S BLUEPRINTS</H2>  
<P><I>by Robert Frenay, Audubon  September-October 1995</I>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><P>
  &quot;WE NEED A NEW DESIGN.&quot; William McDonough's voice carries above the
crowded pews of New  York City's Cathedral of St. John the Divine. McDonough, an
architect, is speaking at the cathedral's  centennial.  But by design he means
something more fundamental than architecture. &quot;We have to  recognize that
every event and manifestation of nature is design,&quot; he says, and that
nature is a proven  concept, a system that works.  McDonough believes there are
logical principles in how the earth creates  and maintains life, principles that
could give new shape and meaning to human endeavor.  But first, he  says, we
must learn to live within the laws of nature, to accept our interdependence &quot;with
forces larger  than ourselves.&quot; </P>
<P>
If McDonough sounds like a missionary, it's due to more than the setting.  Now
dean of architecture at the  University of Virginia, he has throughout his
career shown a knack for turning up at the heart of visionary  projects.  In
1986 he steered an eco-renovation of the Environmental Defense Fund's New York
City  headquarters.  He is a central figure in the sustainable-cities movement,
and with German colleague  Michael Braungart, he wrote the guiding principles
for Expo 2000, the green world's fair scheduled for  the turn of the century in
Germany.  But beyond that, he's part of a loosely affiliated group of
biologists,  chemists, physicists, economists, engineers, designers, city
planners, corporate executives, and  government officials who in recent
years-with no common plan-have found themselves becoming a  movement.</P>
<P>
That movement stands at the juncture of technology and biology, two fields whose
interaction has  traditionally meant the conquest of nature.  But McDonough and
his colleagues aim to redesign human  systems, basing them on principles found
in nature.</P>
<P>
 &quot;The first industrial revolution is over,&quot; says businessman Paul
Hawken, who often works with  McDonough. &quot;It's brought us a long way, but
its day has passed.&quot; Hawken has written a book,<B> The  Ecology of
Commerce</B>, which serves as a central text for the new movement.  In it Hawken
 explores the question of how, with the continued growth of human populations,
we can sustain the natural  world that ultimately sustains us.  He shows why the
industrial revolution's effort to impose on nature the  linear thinking of
classical physics has reached its limit.  With its focus on single
cause-and-effect  relationships, it's too narrow a view of how the living world
works.  Ultimately, according to Hawken, the  issue is not whether we can save
the environment but whether we can save business.</P>
<P>
Many of our environmental problems stem from structural flaws in the world's
economic system.  For  example, our current system considers it &quot;realistic&quot;
to cut down a century-old tree in Alaska, sell it for the  price of a pizza,
ship it to Japan, render it into snack-chip bags, then ship the bags back to the
United  States for sale.  Such practices are commonplace, but compared with the
resilient, economical systems  nature has maintained for billions of years, they
are far from realistic.</P>
<P>
McDonough and his associates reject the view that there's an intrinsic conflict
between a healthy  environment and a healthy business climate.  Instead, they're
calling for a new way of thinking.  As they  see it, evolution provides the
surest guide to what is ultimately realistic.  In his 1954 book, <B>Survival 
by Design</B>, the influential architect Richard Neutra proposed an architecture
based on a  comprehensive knowledge of biology and behavioral science.  An early
environmentalist, Neutra came to  call his integration of nature and human
design &quot;biorealism.&quot; Though few of McDonough's colleagues are  aware
of Neutra's writings, their work is in many ways a realization of his dream. 
But Neutra was  concerned primarily with architecture and city planning.  The
new biorealists are using nature as a model  for reshaping science and industry
as well.</P>
<P>
In doing so, they are going beyond the old romantic notion of living in tune
with nature.  With the current  explosion in knowledge of how nature actually
works, today's biorealists have access to deeper and more  precise insights as
they design new industrial materials and processes.  They have also developed a
new  vocabulary - with terms like industrial ecology, technical cycles, living
machine, dematerialization,  throughput, externalization, waste equals food -
which helps simplify and clarify the complex ideas  involved.  Biorealism is a
nascent idea, but its potency as a unifying concept, the quality of the minds it
 attracts, and its potential for reshaping culture suggest that it could become
a guiding theme for the next  century.</P>
<P>
<B>MYSTERIES OF THE ORGANISM</B></P>
<P>
When a fish swings its tail, it leaves behind a swirl of spinning water.  As the
tail swings back, it stirs  another eddy.  Each stroke sends a swirl spinning in
the opposite direction.  Though that seems a  commonplace observation, new
research shows that fish use their tails to arrange the swirls in precise 
patterns, and that this behavior is the key to their exceptional speed and
maneuverability.  Each swirl  reduces drag from the wake even as it provides
something for the fish to press its tail against on the return  stroke, giving
it more power.  The developers of that insight, marine engineers Michael and
George  Triantafyllou, of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the City
College of New York, have  designed a four-foot model &quot;tuna&quot; that
wriggles through water with an efficiency approaching that of a  living fish. 
Few propeller craft can equal even half that standard.  Given the vast amounts
of cargo  transported by propeller-driven ships, the Triantafyllou brothers'
work could lead to an important new type  of propulsion.</P>
<P>
 &quot;The information of nature is not just beauty,&quot; says Tom Eisner, a
Cornell University entomologist. &quot;And  harvesting the information of nature
doesn't have to be as invasive as harvesting the minerals of nature.&quot; 
People tried making gold for centuries, he points out; in fact, chemistry was
born through the failure of  alchemy.  But the new alchemy, as he calls it -
which is resynthesizing the chemicals of nature - is  generating piles of gold
undreamt of by medieval tinkerers.</P>
<P>
What is the property, Eisner asks, of the hinge of a fly's wing that allows it
to beat hundreds of times per  second without breaking?  Resilin, the stuff fly
and dragonfly hinges are made of, is the most perfect  rubber ever found.  Or
consider spiderwebs:  The dragline silk of the golden-silk spider has a tensile 
strength greater than that of steel, and it can stretch to and rebound from 20
percent beyond its original  length.  Lynn Jelinski, a biophysicist at Cornell,
is exploring how spiders make that silk.  She sees a time  when genetically
altered plants will produce the feed-stock for spiderlike silk to be used in the
fabric of  sails and even in the construction of bridges.  The strength of this
research, says Eisner, is that it's  &quot;biorational.&quot; </P>
<P>
German chemist Michael Braungart notes that many of the colors in a bird's
feathers, ranging from green  to purple, are produced without blue pigment. 
Rather, the blue that gleams on a jay's wing is created by  refractions of
light, a result of prismatic structures in the feathers.  Blue fabric dyes can
be highly toxic,  but Braungart believes it will someday be possible to design
fabrics and even car finishes colored by  optical properties, not by toxic
pigments.</P>
<P>
At Oak Ridge National Laboratory, in Tennessee, biophysicist Elias Greenbaum and
his colleagues have  devised practical ways to mimic plant photosynthesis and
channel the energy to electrical terminals.   Their work opens the door to the
development of &quot;biomolecular electronic devices,&quot; such as optical 
sensors, organic solar cells, and computer &quot;biochips.&quot; Developments
like these suggest powerful reasons  for fully understanding such things as
dragonflies and blue jays, as well as the diverse habitats that support  them. 
They give scientists like Tom Eisner new ground to stand on when they talk about
the need to  preserve the &quot;natural library&quot; of information.</P>
<P>
<B>NATURAL CYCLES</B></P>
<P>
The earth is often pictured as a sunlit blue globe, but on the night side it
reveals a different face:  It  crackles with more than 100 lightning flashes per
second as it turns through space.  Beyond being an  arresting display for
weather satellites, those bolts of lightning are part of what Robert Socolow
calls the  grand nutrient cycles of nature.</P>
<P>
Socolow, a physicist, heads Princeton University's Center for Energy and
Environmental Studies.  (He is  also a National Audubon Society board member.) 
His work includes research in concert with Robert  Ayres,  a professor of
environmental economics at INSEAD, the European business institute, and William 
Schlesinger, a Duke University professor of botany and geology.  They are
charting the flow of carbon and  nitrogen, the two nutrients most critical to
life, through natural systems.  For instance, each year lightning  converts more
than 3 million metric tons of atmospheric nitrogen to nitrogen dioxide.  Forest
fires set by  that lightning release additional nitrogen into the sky;
decomposing plant and animal matter contributes  still more; then rain carries
nitrogen back to water and soil, where, after passing through various microbial 
stages, it's taken up once more by plants and then animals.  In the course of
this elaborate flow, nitrogen  separates and recombines with hydrogen, oxygen,
and carbon, as virtually all life forms absorb it, then  pass it on in altered
form.</P>
<P>
 &quot;Earth knows no desolation,&quot; said the poet George Meredith, &quot;She
smells regeneration/In the moist breath  of decay.&quot; Meredith's graceful
line points to one of the defining qualities of living systems:  their 
perpetual conversion of energy and material into different forms, with the decay
of one organism serving  always as a bed from which new life springs.  From the
global to the microscopic, nature is permeated by  cycles within cycles.  And as
our knowledge of those cycles has grown, it has cast growing doubts on the 
linear thinking that virtually defines the world economy.  Even such recent
concepts as cleaner production  through cradle-to-grave product analysis come up
short.  As McDonough often remarks, &quot;It's not cradle to  grave, it's cradle
to cradle.&quot; </P>
<P>
Braungart heads a research center in Germany, the Hamburg Environmental
Institute, which has designed a  small farming system based on several natural
cycles that intersect through a connected series of deep  ponds.  The ponds
process local sewage and farm waste by growing aquatic plants and algae.  As the
plants  grow, they draw off excess nutrients from the water, leaving it clean
enough to provide habitat for fish.   The plants are harvested to provide food
for livestock or are used with waste from the livestock as  fertilizer for
nearby fields.  Pigs feed on vegetables and snails that grow at the site; ducks
and geese  consume the algae and provide nutrients for the fish.  Water purified
by the process flows back into the  local watershed.</P>
<P>
Various forms of the German system are being demonstrated in Silva Jardim,
Brazil; in China's Zhu River  delta, near Hong Kong; in Madras, India, and along
the Bay of Bengal; and in Thailand and Vietnam.   Similar projects are being
developed by research groups in Sweden, Denmark, and Hungary.  In the United 
States, a leader in this field is biologist John Todd, a lifelong proponent of
cleaning water through the use  of treatment facilities he calls &quot;living
machines.&quot; These are different from ordinary machines, says Todd,  in that &quot;most
of the parts inside them are alive.&quot; </P>
<P>
Coming upon a John Todd waste facility can be a little like stumbling onto some
New Age hanging garden.   In one treatment plant, in the entrance atrium of a
Toronto high school, wastewater moves through a  descending spiral of large,
translucent cylinders as it passes along a carefully designed food chain that 
begins with bright-green layers of algae and duckweed, then features higher
plants such as bulrushes and,  eventually, clear water populated with minnows.</P>
<P>
One of Todd's recent projects is the Ocean Arks trailer, an 18-wheel living
machine that can be trucked  from one site to another.  Now parked in San
Francisco, it upgrades 50,000 gallons of secondary  wastewater each day and
dispenses bait fish and striped bass for fisheries.  Magical transformations of
that  kind are routine in nature, and they are now being tried by human
designers who have begun to understand,  as McDonough puts it, that &quot;waste
equals food.&quot; </P>
<P>
For instance, he and Braungart, with the New York City firm Designtex, have
developed a line of  compostable upholstery fabrics.  Working with European
chemical giant Ciba-Geigy, they vetted a list of  300 dyes, using what McDonough
terms &quot;knockout criteria&quot;:  Is it carcinogenic, mutagenic, 
bioaccumulative?  Is it an allergen, an endocrine disrupter?  Does it contain
heavy metals?  The process  yielded just 16 acceptable dyes, which Designtex is
using to color a wool-and-ramie fabric.  When it  wears out, McDonough says, you
can toss it into the backyard to feed the soil.</P>
<P>
However remarkable, these efforts work within longstanding natural cycles, which
biorealists see as only  half the issue.  As Socolow puts it, &quot;We and the
plants both speak organic carbon, but only we speak  PCBs.&quot; Just as there
are organic cycles and organic nutrients, says McDonough, we need to start
thinking  in terms of technical cycles and technical nutrients.</P>
<P>
<B>INDUSTRIAL ECOLOGY</B></P>
<P>
The town of Kalundborg lies on one shore of a deep fjord along the Great Belt, a
body of cold salt water  that flows through the heart of Denmark to connect the
North and Baltic seas.  It's a postcard town of  20,000, with a medieval Nordic
cathedral and a pedestrian main street of storefronts painted in bright  colors
- the kind of place where one sees laughing schoolkids whirring by on bicycles.</P>
<P>
In 1990 three of those schoolkids got an assignment to prepare an environmental
report on the area's  industries.  They produced a model showing how wastes were
being exchanged among several companies- a power plant, an oil refinery; a
pharmaceutical plant, and a wallboard manufacturer.  In each case, the 
recipient used the waste as a raw material, uniting the companies through a web
of material flows.  The  students likened the system to the food webs in the
natural world.  That was news to Kalundborg's business  leaders.  Their
integration of water, energy, and solid waste - their &quot;industrial ecology&quot;
- had evolved  piecemeal over three decades through informal talks among
managers and CEOs who meant only to save a  few kroner here and there.</P>
<P>
Water drawn from a nearby lake enters the system at one point through the
Statoil refinery, which uses it  for cooling, then pipes it down the road to the
power plant, where it's used as coolant again.  The power  plant,
Asnaesvaerkert, is Denmark's largest and the hub of the interchange.  It burns
coal to make  electricity, but - as is typical of coal-fired plants - it
converts into electricity only about a third of the  energy released.  The rest
is thrown off as waste heat, which is then absorbed by the coolant water.  The 
steam produced in that process is pumped through pipelines back to the Statoil
refinery as well as to Novo  Nordisk, the pharmaceutical company; both use it to
drive their internal processes.  Another pipeline  supplies steam heat to most
of the town, eliminating the need for some 3,500 oil-fired furnaces.  The  power
plant also draws salt water from the fjord and, after heating it, feeds it into
the 57 ponds of a nearby  fish farm.  Fish grow more rapidly in the warmed
water, enabling the farm to produce 250 tons of sea  trout and turbot each year.</P>
<P>
Back at Statoil, sulfur is removed from the refinery's waste gas, which was
formerly burned off from a tall  stack.  The purified gas is now used
internally; it's also piped as fuel to Gyproc, the wallboard maker, and  to the
power plant-where it saves some 30,000 tons of coal a year.  The sulfur Statoil
removes from the  gas gets trucked to another company, Kemira, which produces
sulfuric acid.</P>
<P>
Asnaes, the power plant, cleans sulfur from its emissions with a stack scrubber
that converts 90 percent of  the sulfur into calcium sulfate, or industrial
gypsum.  Gyproc buys as much as 85,000 tons of the gypsum  each year to make
wallboard.</P>
<P>
A meandering pipeline runs east for about a mile from Asnaes, like a new shoot
from a spider plant.   Painted light green to match the roadside shrubs, it
delivers the live steam to Novo Nordisk, where the  steam is used to make
insulin and enzymes.  The fermentation vats at Novo also yield 700,000 tons each
 year of a thin, nitrogen-rich slurry that was once dumped in the fjord but is
now piped free to local  farmers, who use it as fertilizer.  They in turn grow
biomass for the fermentation vats.  Yeast cake from  the vats is used to feed
rural Kalundborg's hogs.</P>
<P>
Compared with natural systems, industrial ecologies like this still have some
distance to go; as Hawken  points out, we have yet to design anything even
remotely as complex as the interactions in a single cubic  foot of rich soil. 
Still, &quot;the Kalundborg success speaks to the wealth of exchanges that are
possible  between industries, without design or preplanning,&quot; he says. &quot;Imagine
what a team of designers could come  up with if they were to start from scratch.&quot;
</P>
<P>
In fact, such planning is already under way.  In 1992 Socolow chaired an
international conference called  Industrial Ecology and Global Change, which was
documented in a 1994 book of the same name.  It was an  early session in what
has since become a movable feast of conferences and workshops on industrial 
ecology.  As the new thinking paves the way for a shift from &quot;end-of-pipe&quot;
pollution control to cleaner  processes modeled on nature, industrial-ecologies
are being developed in Matamoros, Mexico;  Dartmouth, Nova Scotia; Yorkshire,
England; Rotterdam; and Tokyo.  In the United States, the President's  Council
on Sustainable Development is working with the Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA) to  provide guidance and technical support for pilot projects in
Chattanooga; Baltimore; Cape Charles,  Virginia; and Brownsville, Texas (with
Matamoros).  Other areas - including Pittsburgh; Seattle;  Rochester, New York;
and Willapa Bay, Washington - are also working to develop projects.</P>
<P>
In Brownsville, EPA-funded consultants are working with local residents and
businesses to write a  casebook for the development of an industrial ecosystem
modeled on Kalundborg's. &quot;I find that  communities are very receptive to
these concepts,&quot; says Ernest Lowe, a member of the team. &quot;Most of 
this stuff is common sense.  It's just that we've been in a departure from
common sense for some time.&quot; 
</P>
<P>
<B>TECHNICAL CYCLES</B></P>
<P>
 &quot;Industrial ecosystems are an exciting development,&quot; says Don
Huisingh, a Dutch environmental engineer  and consultant, &quot;but they're no
excuse for carelessness about energy and resource use.  In walking through  a
factory, I often identify fifteen problems in the first hour.&quot; Picking
cherries off the tree, he calls it.  But  harvesting the low-hanging fruit is
just a start.</P>
<P>
Since industrial processes so often begin with the depletion of resources and
end in the corruption of  natural systems, concern about the overall amount of
material, labor, and energy used by today's  industries, and the waste they
produce - their &quot;throughput&quot; - has helped spur a global search for
cleaner  production methods.  McDonough calls this part of the &quot;dematerialization&quot;
of industry.</P>
<P>
It's an urgent problem.  The growth of consumption has begun to slow in the
West, but the sheer quantity  of products - and the amount of solid waste
produced - remain almost beyond comprehension.  When  Mount St. Helens erupted
in 1980, it spewed a 600-million-ton ash cloud that darkened the sun across 
vast areas of the United States.  Within two weeks ash from the blast had spread
around the globe.  It  buried tens of thousands of acres of forest.  It
destroyed crops, disrupted air travel, buried roads.  In  Washington State,
900,000 tons of it were removed from highways and airports alone.  Yet the
United  States generates 12 billion tons of solid waste - roughly 20 times the
total amount of ash unleashed by  Mount St. Helens - every year.</P>
<P>
The growth of consumption may be leveling off in the saturated markets of the
West, but the General  Agreement on Tariffs and Trade and the World Trade
Organization - through a series of international  treaties aimed at eliminating
trade barriers - now seek to extend that unsustainable system throughout the 
developing world. &quot;In order to give everyone our standard of living, we'd
have to increase our throughput  by a factor of twenty,&quot; says Hawken. &quot;That's
impossible.&quot; </P>
<P>
Huisingh agrees.  Last October he hosted a roundtable in Graz, Austria, on
cleaner production.  It included  such nuts-and-bolts workshops as Inventory and
Evaluation of Possible Software Applications for Lessons  Learned From Defense
Organizations.  But it also served as a forum on biorealist ideas for hundreds
of  engineers and consultants from dozens of countries, including a delegation
from Kalundborg and  representatives from developing and transitional economies
such as India, Zambia, Lithuania, the Czech  Republic, and Slovakia.</P>
<P>
Cleaner production is a hot topic in the United States, where 3M Corporation is
one of the more  prominent success stories.  During the past 20 years 3M has
launched some 4,200 cleaner-production  projects company-wide; as a result, it
has cut pollutants released into the air, soil, and water by 1.3 billion  pounds
and realized savings of $750 million.</P>
<P>
McDonough applauds such efforts but raises a question.  When corporate managers
say, We think  environmentalism can be good for business because our engineers
redesigned our systems and we cut our  costs by 30 percent, he asks, Doesn't
that indicate that until now there were massive inefficiencies you  ignored,
despite your obligation to your stockholders, and that you only addressed them
because a bunch  of environmentalists pushed you into it?</P>
<P>
Robert Bringer, staff vice-president of 3M's environmental technology and
services, says large companies  have had efficiency programs for years, but he
acknowledges that &quot;the contribution of the environmental  movement is in
increased awareness of pollution as a byproduct of inefficiency.&quot; </P>
<P>
Socolow agrees that cleaning up production lines is an important accomplishment
but adds that it's only a  first step. &quot;they get awards for being clean,&quot;
he says, &quot;but the products they make are still not clean.&quot; That  is,
the products themselves are a prime source of the solid waste piling up in
landfills and of the toxins  disrupting the natural systems that support all
life.</P>
<P>
Biorealists acknowledge that calculating the real costs of making, using, and
disposing of products as they  move from &quot;upstream&quot; to &quot;downstream&quot;
through their useful lives is one of the more important challenges  facing
business.  One effort to quantify those costs is under way in Germany, where
Braungart heads a  group called the Environmental Protection Encouragement
Agency.  EPEA does complete toxicological  breakdowns of everyday products,
noting, for example, that there are more than 4,000 chemicals in a  television
set and 800 in a videocassette recorder.  Many of them emit toxins such as
benzene and tuolene  vapor when running.  Many of the dangerous emissions from
appliances are caused by the use of cheap  materials in their construction, says
Braungart.  But if a VCR were disassembled at the end of its life and  its
materials reused instead of being lost in landfills, safer, more expensive
plastics and chemicals could  be used with no overall increase in cost.</P>
<P>
Braungart's great-grandfather was a cobbler. &quot;They produced shoes that were
ugly, and they were very  expensive,&quot; he says, &quot;but you could throw
them away and you could compost them.  Today, shoes are  relatively nice. 
They're relatively cheap.  But they are hazardous waste.  About twenty percent
of the  world's chromium is used for leather tanning.  And chromium is rare.  In
one kilogram of shoe waste there  are about forty grams of chromium.&quot; It's
foolish, Braungart argues, to use chromium that way when we  need it for steel
manufacturing.  What about plastic soles and sneakers? &quot;We have twenty-six
thousand  pounds of PVC (polyvinyl chloride, a plastic) being used for shoe
soles each year in Germany, and...lead  is used as a stabilizer for the PVC.&quot;
The lead in dust from PVC soles is carried by rain into sewers, which  makes it
difficult to recycle sewage sludge for agriculture.</P>
<P>
 &quot;You can use (treatment) plants to take out the lead.&quot; Braungart
says, &quot;but this is ridiculous - all instead of  solving the design problem.
 Our proposal is simply to create shoes that are nice, that are cheap, and that 
are environmentally sound.  It's a third category of quality.  So it's only a
quality issue, not a moral  challenge.&quot; </P>
<P>
<B>COMPLEXITY</B></P>
<P>
Light cars use less material and get higher mileage than heavy cars but aren't
as safe.  Cloth diapers seem  preferable to disposables, but the pesticides used
on cotton, the constant pickup and delivery involved in  using a diaper service,
and the cost of washing diapers with detergent make the choice less clear.  
Unanticipated trade-offs are a natural part of complex systems.</P>
<P>
Life Cycle Analysis, or LCA, is an effort to deal with that complexity.  It
monitors the streams of energy,  materials, and information that feed into and
emerge from a manufacturing process.  What resource does  this deplete?  it
asks.  How much does this pollute?  What are the health effects?  LCA aims to
rule out the  &quot;externalization&quot; of costs, that view of the bottom line
that says killing fish populations with PCBs has  nothing to do with the cost of
manufacturing widgets.</P>
<P>
Volvo, the Swedish carmaker, is currently a leader in LCA.  Its Environmental
Priorities Strategy, based  on the expertise of scientists, engineers, and
economists from several industries, rates more than 600  materials by &quot;environmental
load units.&quot; For instance, according to Sven Ryding, one of the system's 
designers, it can measure how much energy is used to make a given part from
aluminum.  It can also  distinguish between the environmental costs of smelting
that aluminum with coal, oil, or hydroelectric  power.</P>
<P>
One outcome of life cycle analysis has been a rising interest among
manufacturers in designing for  disassembly and recycling.  Audi, the German
automaker, has displayed a prototype for a fully recyclable  sports car.  It is
also joining with Volkswagen and Preussag, the steel company, to set up 80 auto-
disassembly plants.  Mitsubishi makes washing machines that can be fully
disassembled with only a  screwdriver.  Xerox now recycles nearly 1 million used
parts each year, for savings of $200 million.   AT&amp;T Bell Labs is using LCA
to develop a &quot;green telephone.&quot; IBM used LCA in the design of its 
Personal System/2 computer, which, among other innovations, uses a single,
recyclable polymer for all  its plastic parts.</P>
<P>
Still, McDonough has concerns about much of the recycling now practiced by
industry.  If the recycled  materials are good only for making park benches or
packing material, he says, they're still going to end up  in a landfill sooner
or later -the problem is only being put off. &quot;That's not recycling,&quot;
he says, but  &quot;downcycling.&quot; </P>
<P>
He would prefer to see 800 numbers on all products.  When a television is beyond
repair or a synthetic  rug wears out, customers would call the manufacturer and
the items would be reclaimed, then used to  make something else.  Pesticides and
similar compounds would be tagged with molecular markers so they  could be
traced and in certain cases recycled.  Eventually, McDonough believes,
increasing numbers of  products will be leased rather than purchased outright.</P>
<P>
Within these rude beginnings lie the roots of what McDonough calls the technical
cycle, complete with  its feedback loops and technical nutrients.  Just as
nature combines elements such as nitrogen, oxygen,  and carbon to make a cherry
blossom or a dragonfly, then reabsorbs them when their lives are done, 
materials in a fully evolved technical cycle would take specific form only to
provide services - a car for  transportation, a washing machine for cleaning
clothes, a phone for communications - before being  absorbed back into the web
of material flows.</P>
<P>
Changes of the magnitude and complexity indicated by biorealism - which are not
only technological and  economic but cultural as well - will take time.  Large
companies project their capital investments over  decades.  And simple human
habit is a powerful force:  Many people take pride in doing things as they've 
always done them, and they will continue that way until change is unavoidable. 
Hawken quotes a Somali  saying: &quot;You can't wake a man who is pretending to
be asleep.&quot; </P>
<P>
Like federal groundskeepers raking and trimming around the capital's cherry
trees, Washington lawmakers  have - with the best of intentions - restricted the
growth of industrial ecology.  For  instance, antitrust  regulations discourage
extensive connections between companies.  Laws against manufacturing with used 
parts affect recycling - although those laws exist for good reasons and should
be amended only with  caution.</P>
<P>
 &quot;Expectations over the past fifty years have been shaped by an
unsustainable structure,&quot; says Braden  Allenby, a research vice-president
in AT&amp;T's technology and environment division. &quot;Many of the 
disciplines involved in this problem are fundamentally flawed because they were
developed in a time of  unlimited resources.&quot; </P>
<P>
Until now, says Allenby, industry has evolved along the lines of a young
ecosystem, in which resources  exceed demand, making rapid growth common. 
Simplicity and quantity are guiding principles, and  byproducts may be left
unused.  But the industrial world is now entering a mature phase, and with that
the  rules of the game are changing.  Mature biological systems are dynamic but
highly diverse and complex,  and they're more stable than younger ones. 
Resources are no longer plentiful, so the waste-equals-food  equation emerges. 
Quality becomes a more effective survival strategy than sheer numbers.</P>
<P>
Of course, there are reasons not to emulate nature in every way.  Nature is
indifferent to suffering, for  example.  But in the end, what McDonough,
Braungart, Socolow, Eisner, Todd, Hawken, and the others are  trying to tell
business is relatively simple:  Nature is a system that works, and it works by
being  essentially a closed system.</P>
<P>
McDonough tells a story from anthropologist Gregory Bateson about New College,
in Oxford, England.   The main hall there was built in the early 1600s with oak
beams 40 feet long and 2 feet thick.  Recently  they began to suffer from dry
rot, and administrators couldn't find English oaks large enough to replace 
them.  A young faculty member said, &quot;Why don't we ask the college forester
if some of the lands given to  Oxford might have enough trees to call upon?&quot;
They brought in the forester, who said, &quot;We've been  wondering when you
would ask this question.  When the present building was constructed three
hundred  and fifty years ago, the architects specified that a grove of trees be
planted and maintained to replace the  beams in the ceiling when they suffered
from dry rot.&quot; Bateson's comment was, &quot;That's the way to run a 
culture.&quot; </P>
<P>
The question facing our culture is, What kind of foundation are we laying for
the world of three centuries  from today?  Hardin Tibbs, a business consultant
now living in Australia and one of the first to write about  industrial ecology,
says, &quot;There are a number of extremely powerful technologies on the horizon
-  genetics, nanotechnology, parallel computers.  The ability to manage and
control current practices from  an ecological perspective is a window on our
ability to handle those more powerful developments in the  future.&quot; </P>
<P>
To anyone concerned about the future of plants, animals, and habitats, the use
of nature as a model means  new hope.  For it suggests a philosophical basis for
human endeavor that runs deeper than arguments over  exploitation or regulation.
 It offers a new design, a set of principles from which we may yet raise a 
greater structure, one that will fit human enterprise to the highly evolved
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<h2>Books</h2>

<h3>Renewable Natural Resources</h3>
<ul>
<li><i>The One-Straw Revolution</i> by Masanobu Fukuoka, 1985.

<li><i>Permaculture:  A Designers' Manual</i> by Bill Mollison.

<li><i>Tree Crops:  A Permanent Agriculture</i> by Russell J. Smith, 1929.

<li><i>The Permaculture Garden</i> by Graham Bell, 1994.

<li><i>Holistic Resource Management</i> by Alan Savory.
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Social Studies</h3>
<ul>
<li><B>_Living the Good Life</i> and _Continuing the Good Life_ 
by Helen and Scott Nearing.

<li><i>Dumbing Us Down</i> by John Gatto.

<li><i>Communities Directory</i> by the Fellowship for Intentional Community, 1995.

<li><i>Ancient Futures:  Learning from Ladakh</i> by Helena Norberg-Hodge, 1991.

<li><i>Invest Yourself</i> Commission on Voluntary Service and Action, 
New York, New York, 1993.  "The catalogue of Volunteer 
Opportunities."
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Building</h3>
<ul>
<li><i>Thermal Delight in Architecture</i> by Lisa Heschong, 1979.
<li><i>The Straw Bale House</i> by Steen, Steen, and Bainbridge, 1994.
</ul>

<hr>

<h3>Food Preparation</h3>
<ul>
<li><i>Stocking Up III:  The All-New Edition of America's Classic Preserving
Guide</i> by Carol Hupping, 1986.

<li><i>Ferment and Human Nutrition</i> by Bill Mollison, 
Published by Tagari Press, 1993.
</ul>

<hr>

<h2>Catalogues</h2>
<ul>
<li><b>Peaceful Valley Farm Supply</b> P.O. Box 2209, Grass Valley, 
CA 95945.  Phone: 916-272-4769.

<li><b>Real Goods</b> 966 Mazzoni Street; Ukiah, CA 95482-3471. 
Phone: 800-762-7325; Fax 707-468-9486.

<li><b>Island Press Environmental Sourcebook</b> "Books for better 
conservation management." P.O. Box 7; Covelo, CA 95428. Phone: 
800-828-1302; Fax 707-983-6414.
</ul>

<hr>

<h2>Periodicals</h2>
<ul>
<li><b>The Permaculture Activist</b> P.O. Box 1209; Black 
Mountain, NC 28711. Contact, Peter Bane.</li>

<li><b>The Permaculture International Journal</b> P.O. Box 6039; 
South Lismore; NSW 2480, Australia. Phone: 066-220-020; Fax: 
066-220-579; <a href="mailto:pcjournal@peg.apc.org"> 
pcjournal@peg.apc.org</a> (electronic mail).

<li><b>Permaculture Drylands Jounal</b> P.O. Box 64184; Tucson, 
AZ 85728.

<li><b>Communities</b></li>
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Help!  We live SE AZ and have recently been inundated with ticks at our
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From: Intergalactic Garage <igg@igg.com>
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Subject: Spader Clinic at BD Conference

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Great News!!

Eugene Canales (BIODYNAMICS #210-212) of Ferarri Tractor has offered to
conduct a "spading" clinic at the East Coast Biodynamic Conference Oct 3-5.

The Claymont Court Agricultural Project, the site of the conference, has
been using  a 7ft Tortella spader with a recent model 70-hp John Deere
tractor with optional low gearing for the past year. It is Eugene's
intention to use this equipment to show in the field the 'whys and hows' of
spading as well as demonstrate some 'tricks of the spade' and answer
questions from spader users and those interested in using spaders on their
beds and fields in the future. The Claymont growers will be on hand to
discuss their experiences with this appropriate approach to tillage. (They
LIKE their spader!!)

The presentation is in addition to the lecture on 'Walking Tractors' by
Eugene Canales which was announced previously. This presentation will be
demonstrated with the BCS line of walking tractors and may even include a
demonstration of the  BCS walk-behind spading machine!!! (Highly
recommended by Elliot Coleman for the 'small' producer.) Other European
'walking tractor' lines will be discussed and there will be a slide show
and questions and answers.

[I hope my enthusiasm for these two events is not construed to be
commercial. I have not seen many opportunities for alternative growers to
find experienced information on these worthwhile and practical approaches
to tillage and cultivation and am happy that we will get an opportunity to
provide this information at the East Coast Biodynamics Conference.]

The East Coast Biodynamic Conference ("Alan Chadwick: 30 Years Later") is
being held at Claymont Court in Charles Town, WV (about 90 minutes from
downtown Washington DC) Oct 3-5, 1997. It is being partially sponsored by
the Biodynamic Farming and Gardening Association and the Demeter (BD
Certification) Association with a little help from Record Tools (marketers
in North America of the famous Sheffield England D-handled "Bulldog" spades
popularized by Alan Chadwick).

Trade Show space is available at this conference. (Yes, there will be
stirring machines AND flow forms demonstrated!)

For more information about the East Coast Biodynamic Conference, Contact:
Allan Balliett POB 3047 Shepherdstown, WV 25443 (304) 876-2373 FAX:(304)
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www.biodynamics.com.

For more information about the Spading Clinic or the Walking Tractor
Presentation, or general questions about alternative farm implements,
contact Eugene Canales, Ferarri Tractor, POB 1045, Gridley, CA 95548 (916)
846-6401 FAX: (916) 846-0390.


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From: Intergalactic Garage <igg@igg.com>
To: bd-l@biodynamics.com
Subject: Spader Clinic at BD Conference

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Great News!!

Eugene Canales (BIODYNAMICS #210-212) of Ferarri Tractor has offered to
conduct a "spading" clinic at the East Coast Biodynamic Conference Oct 3-5.

The Claymont Court Agricultural Project, the site of the conference, has
been using  a 7ft Tortella spader with a recent model 70-hp John Deere
tractor with optional low gearing for the past year. It is Eugene's
intention to use this equipment to show in the field the 'whys and hows' of
spading as well as demonstrate some 'tricks of the spade' and answer
questions from spader users and those interested in using spaders on their
beds and fields in the future. The Claymont growers will be on hand to
discuss their experiences with this appropriate approach to tillage. (They
LIKE their spader!!)

The presentation is in addition to the lecture on 'Walking Tractors' by
Eugene Canales which was announced previously. This presentation will be
demonstrated with the BCS line of walking tractors and may even include a
demonstration of the  BCS walk-behind spading machine!!! (Highly
recommended by Elliot Coleman for the 'small' producer.) Other European
'walking tractor' lines will be discussed and there will be a slide show
and questions and answers.

[I hope my enthusiasm for these two events is not construed to be
commercial. I have not seen many opportunities for alternative growers to
find experienced information on these worthwhile and practical approaches
to tillage and cultivation and am happy that we will get an opportunity to
provide this information at the East Coast Biodynamics Conference.]

The East Coast Biodynamic Conference ("Alan Chadwick: 30 Years Later") is
being held at Claymont Court in Charles Town, WV (about 90 minutes from
downtown Washington DC) Oct 3-5, 1997. It is being partially sponsored by
the Biodynamic Farming and Gardening Association and the Demeter (BD
Certification) Association with a little help from Record Tools (marketers
in North America of the famous Sheffield England D-handled "Bulldog" spades
popularized by Alan Chadwick).

Trade Show space is available at this conference. (Yes, there will be
stirring machines AND flow forms demonstrated!)

For more information about the East Coast Biodynamic Conference, Contact:
Allan Balliett POB 3047 Shepherdstown, WV 25443 (304) 876-2373 FAX:(304)
876-9414 email: biodynamics@biodynamics.com or check out the web page at
www.biodynamics.com.

For more information about the Spading Clinic or the Walking Tractor
Presentation, or general questions about alternative farm implements,
contact Eugene Canales, Ferarri Tractor, POB 1045, Gridley, CA 95548 (916)
846-6401 FAX: (916) 846-0390.


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I found a good web page for sustainable agriculture.

I am very pleased with their soil management programs.

WOW, they are great with the living soil.

Check them out.

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Subject: Washington and Idaho Farm Tours



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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 17:08:11 -0700
From: Colette DePhelps <dephelps@pcei.org>
To: sustag@beta.tricity.wsu.edu, sawg@lists.desktop.org
Subject: Washington and Idaho Farm Tours


ORGANIC, SUSTAINABLE AND DIRECT MARKETING FARM TOURS OFFERED IN WASHINGTON
AND IDAHO

The Palouse-Clearwater Environmental Institute (PCEI) is offering its third
annual series of farm tours in Idaho and Washington.  This year's tours
series, which runs from August to October, will emphasize the importance of
local food production and marketing.  The purpose of the tours is to
increase community knowledge and support of local agricultural products
produced using sustainable and organic production methods.  Featured farms
range from sustainable hay production on steep Palouse slopes, to
small-scale organic vegetable and flower production.

The tours will provide an opportunity for regional producers to learn about
the benefits and challenges of local production and direct marketing, and
for consumers to better understand how they can participate in their local
food systems. Tour participants will see, first hand, the environmental
benefits of alternative production systems.  Participants will also
participate in active discussions of how local production and marketing
enhances the quality of life and economic viability of local communities.
The tours are open to all -- farmers, consumers, extension agents, policy
makers, 4-H youth, Future Farmers of America, environmental advocates and
university students.

For the first time, tours will be held in the late summer and fall,
providing returning university students with an opportunity to attend.

Tours will be offered in:

Sandpoint				(Greater Sandpoint area)
	August 16, 1997
Wenatchee Valley			(Wenatchee, Chelan)
	August 21, 1997
Palouse Region			(Pullman, Moscow, Potlatch area)
	September 20, 1997
Kootenai and Spokane Counties	(Coeur d'Alene, Spokane area)	September
24, 1997
Clearwater Valley			(Lapwai, Lewiston, Clarkston area)
	October 18, 1997

Each tour will include a catered meal featuring local, sustainably grown
food and transportation in an air-conditioned bus.  Cost per person, per
tour, is $20.00  for persons registering at least one week prior to the
tour date.  The registration fee for late registrants is $25.00.  The tours
are co-sponsored by the PCEI Community Food Systems Program, University of
Idaho Cooperative Extension, Washington State University Center for
Sustaining Agriculture and Natural Resources and local chambers of
commerce.  Financial support comes from Patagonia, Inc. and the Jessie
Smith Noyes Foundation.

For more information or to receive a tour brochure, contact:




Colette DePhelps
Community Food Systems Program Coordinator

"Looking more deeply than usual at things, one wonders at how immense tiny
things are, and how tiny immense things are too.  Like dinosaurs (used to
be) and like neutrons.   ~Stine"

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Palouse-Clearwater Environmental Institute
P O Box 8596; 112 West 4th St; Suite #1
Moscow ID 83843-1096
Phone (208)882-1444; Fax (208)882-8029
url:  http://www.moscow.com/pcei

Thomas C. Lamar, Executive Director: lamar@pcei.org
Kathleen Lester, Office Manager: lester@pcei.org
Adam R. Thornbrough, Watersheds: thornbrough@pcei.org
Colette DePhelps, Community Food Systems: dephelps@pcei.org
Kathy Roos, Transportation Education: kroos@cyberhighway.net

Celebrating eleven years of connecting people, place and community.
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From: Arthur Conacher <ajconach@sunny.gis.uwa.edu.au>
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Dear colleagues

May I bring to your attention a meeting of the International Geographical 
Union's Commisssion on Land Degradation and Desertification to be held in 
Perth, Western Australia, in September 1999.

An unformatted copy of the First Circular is attached.

We hope this will provide you with sufficient notice to arrange time, 
funds and research results.

Further information on publication of papers, costs and accommodation 
will be provided in the second circular, due early 1998.

Meanwhile I hope to hear from those of you who may be interested in 
participating: you will be very welcome.

With regards

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University of Western Australia
Nedlands, WA 6907
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From: "Kathy E. Gill" <kegill@halcyon.com>
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I've only lurked here for quite some time ... but John, what exactly do you
mean by "go down the drain"? LOTS of chemicals go down the drain from
households. Very few do from industrial facilities -- they have to have
permits to dischage.

The testing of biosolids differs by state ...and differs by the end-use of
the material (land appliation versus mono-fill). I can assure you that from
manufacturing facilities with their own WWTP, bio-solids get tested for a
variety of compounds. Likewise with biosolids from Muni systems. They don't
just "get disposed of" willy-nilly.

There has been an extensive amount of research in the Mid-West -- Minn. I
think -- about applying municipal bio-solids to ag lands.

Regardless of the "fertilizer" one uses, knowing the active and inactive
ingredients is a prudent measure. Most states heavily regulate land
application of biosolids. Unlike land application of commercial ... or ...
"organic" ... fertilizers.


It also might be prudent to note your personal aversion to chemicals (per
your web site) and your assertions that "organic" fertilizers are somehow
=2E.. safer than  ... well, not inorganic ... I'm not sure how you
characterize the competing products.

If you'd like a list of regulatory agencies (environmental, natural
resources, ag) from around the country, point your browser to
http://www.enetdigest.com/govt/govt.html

Kathy
Kathy E. Gill, publisher, eNetDigest - http://www.enetdigest.com/
Member, HTML Writers Guild Governing Board, http://www.hwg.org/
WWW design =95 writing =95 training - http://www.dotparagon.com/

You must be the change you wish to see in the world. - Gandhi



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I found that theses comments were very pertinent to Permaculture and how we 
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From: Rob Rutherford
Animal Science Department
Cal Poly
The discussion regarding the essay by Mr. Burgess has brought several thoughts
to mind. The first might be along the lines of what Noel M might have
suggested and that is to see if we can get some good from the discussion. I
was first presented with this essay over 18 months ago as it appeared in the
Arizona Sierra Club publication. I copied and shared it with our California
group at a gathering near Red Bluff. The reaction of the group could have been
described as "Oh, well, some more of THAT kind of uninformed nonsense." I
personally thought that it created a great opportunity to use the article as a
catalyst for a revisiting of the ongoing discussion as to what holistic
management really is. As each of us shares in these discussions, we all
develop a deeper and broader understanding of that which we are all a part.
So maybe some good could come of an article like the one published.

A second thought occured as I visited the other sites within the Burgess Web
page. A quick reading of several of the short stories, etc. reveals to me that
the author may not be put off so much with the idea of holisitic decision
making, but with cows. Cattle have long been held as a sign of wealth. Those
who have owned land and cattle have been given certain rights and privleges
unshared by the less fortunate. I see much in Mr. Burgess's writing having to
do with class struggle and predjudice, more than any great grasp as to the
science of ecology and the role of large grazing animals in it.

Finally, it occured to me that to be a financially successful journalist (Mr.
Burgess's degree is in Journalism), you must write material that other people
want to read. To sell many copies of a piece that is critical of an
institution, a group, a movement, or whatever, it helps if the subject of the
piece is well known. (An expose of Lady Di's activities probably wouldn't sell
if she had never married her first husband). This suggests that holisitic
management, the center, and the leaders therein are really getting to be known
in wider circles! I see this as a real positive.....

Rob Rutherford

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Hi,

I just grabbed your contact off the net and am interested in doing some 
permaculture related volunteer work in Brasil.  I have a wide range of 
experience in community based action and community based work - eg 
organic food co-operatives; solid waste minimisation; organic farming; 
urban design and planning etc.  Mmm I would love to be able to work there 
and dance with the locals, please contact me soon

Andy Cabban

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It may look like just a speck of dirt to the naked eye, but under an electron microscope a crumb of prairie soil is really a carefully constructed "apartment building," home to the small critters that recycle decaying organic matter into usable nutrients. About a millimeter across, a soil crumb--or macroaggregate--is riddled with water- and air-filled pores that shelter such organisms as bacteria, fungi and nematodes. As these organisms dine on dead roots, fertilizer and even one another, they release the nitrogen compounds that feed growing plants.

<P>U.S. Department of Agriculture soil scientist Cynthia Cambardella is passionate about macroaggregates. She and her colleagues at the <a href="http://www.nstl.gov/">National Soil Tilth Laboratory</a> in Ames, Iowa, study soil structure and its effect on nutrient cycling in the hope of developing more efficient and environmentally friendly farming techniques. Soils with abundant macroaggregates do a better job of supporting plant life and lose fewer nutrients to leaching; therefore, much of Cambardella's work focuses on the formation and degradation of these rich crumbs in agricultural lands.

<P>Cambardella has her graduate student Jeff Gale of Iowa State University use radioactive carbon 14, for example, to observe the aggregation process in soil as the debris from harvested oat plants decomposes. Gale sows his oats in large pots kept in a walk-in growth chamber. As the plants grow to a height of a meter, he periodically doses them with radioactivity by combining carbon 14-tagged sodium bicarbonate with a dilute acid inside the growth chamber. When the acid hits the radioactive baking soda, the mixture foams, liberating "hot" carbon dioxide that is fixed by the growing plants and incorporated into their tissues.

<P>After the plants are harvested, Gale and Cambardella can trace the radioactive organic materials from the remaining roots and straw as they decompose and become incorporated into the soil structure. They are finding that the presence of relatively fresh plant matter in the soil helps to stabilize its structure--the number of macroaggregates peaks about 180 days after the harvest, and then the aggregates start to break down, potentially compromising soil quality.

<P>Studying aggregate formation, Gale says, will help farmers learn to maintain good soil structure in the field. Cambardella believes that understanding soil structure is vital to developing agricultural practices that do not cause topsoil erosion or the contamination of aquifers and surface waters with fertilizer runoff. "We need to learn more about what's really going on in the soil," Cambardella says. "We can't black-box it anymore."<P>--<i>Rebecca Zacks</i>
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<b>Lint from blue jeans as plant boosters and bricks</b></center>

<P>Imagine the dinner conversation at David Dotson's house when he told his parents he was going to put his brand-new graduate degree to good use--collecting lint. Yes, those lowly bits of clothing fiber found between one's toes and clinging to the screens of dryers. Dotson, who had just received his master's degree from New Mexico State University in Las Cruces, had signed on with Livingston Associates, an environmental consulting group based in Alamogordo, N.M. And his first job would be to help El Paso, Tex., figure out what to do about its overabundance of lint.

<P>El Paso is the garment-finishing capital of the world, where six major plants wash blue jeans for Levi-Strauss, Gap, Polo, DKNY, Kmart and others. One large finisher, International Garment Processors (IGP), estimates that it stonewashes, sandblasts and otherwise weathers some 300,000 pairs every week. That leads to a lot of lint: IGP can throw away up to 70 cubic yards, about three full garbage trucks of the stuff every week. It was eating up profits at the rate of $900 a week for disposal.

<P>Al Romero, IGP's director of environmental health and safety, suspected there was a solution to their lint problem. "I knew it was cotton fiber, just organic matter, so there had to be something we could do with it besides put it in a landfill," he says. He approached agricultural engineer Dana Porter, then at N.M.S.U., who enlisted Dotson, one of her graduate students. "I knew at the very least it could be composted," Porter recalls. "But I wanted to see if we could do something simpler with the fiber."

<P>That something simpler was mixing it with farmland. Porter and Dotson started with cotton and wheat seeds in five-gallon buckets. One bucket had just local soil; three others had varying amounts of IGP's lint mixed in. The results were dramatic. Germination rates improved in all the lint-filled buckets, some increasing by 60 percent. The lint boosted the water-holding capacity of the soil 300 percent, not an insignificant finding for parched El Paso.

<P>Suddenly, there seemed to be endless potential for IGP's "problem." The unprocessed lint could be applied directly to alfalfa fields that IGP also maintains, allowing it to plant another profitable 70 acres with 25 percent less water.

<P>Dotson had also noted that in their preliminary tests the lint increased soil permeability, a quality that might aid land reclamation efforts. He went to White Oaks, N.M., to test his theory on soil that had remained largely sterile for the past 100 years because an especially harsh cyanide-leaching process had been used to mine the area. Dotson found that by using a mixture of fertilizer and lint (which also acts as a slow-release fertilizer), he could increase the grass yields by 1,000 percent over untreated soil. Dotson is now looking at using lint sludge to make a superior kind of compost for gardeners.

<P>Porter and Dotson aren't the only ones collecting lint in El Paso. Naomi Assaidan of Texas A&M University's agricultural outreach center in El Paso has been working with American Garment Finishers (AGF) to turn their sludge into bricks and cement. Each garment processor relies on a proprietary finishing process; AGF in particular incorporates alum in its wash water. As a result, its lint sludge differs from IGP's. "It comes out looking like feathery blue chalk," Assaidan says. She fired up chunks of the claylike sludge in a kiln and discovered that they did indeed turn into the first lint bricks. "They're blue, but that's okay. Albuquerque is pink from all the clay it uses in construction. I don't see any reason why El Paso can't be blue," Assaidan says.

<P>In the meantime, IGP's Romero finds that he doesn't send his lint to the landfill anymore. Last year he shipped seven to 10 tons of sludge to N.M.S.U. for its projects. Shipping costs have kept IGP from seeing a profit in lint, but Romero anticipates that within the next year, he'll be applying it to the IGP farms on-site, which will be more cost-effective. "Within a year, the sludge will be a direct source of income," Romero says, "and we'll be in the green--or, I should say, in the blue."<P>--<i>Brenda DeKoker</i>
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From: Michael Cote' <cote.1@osu.edu>

Craig & Paula,
In response to your inquiry you may be interested in the new guidebook
"Free-Range Poultry Production, Processing and Marketing" written by Herman
Beck-Chenoweth.  Herman and wife, Linda Lee, produce free range chickens and
turkeys, eggs and vegetables and market them to buying clubs, restaurants,
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The guidebook, developed with the assistance of a USDA/SARE Producer grant,
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which hold up to 400 chickens each and are towed by tractor to new locations
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The guidebook is available from Herman Beck-Chenoweth for $39.50 plus $4.50
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FAX: (614) 596-3079

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At 09:23 PM 8/14/97, you wrote:
>From: Noel McNaughton <noelm@telusplanet.net>
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>Hi Craig and Paula,
>I do not know whether anybody has mentioned Joel Salatin to you (I think 
>somebody at the CHM can give you his address or phone number. His book 
>"pastured poultry profits" is pretty detailed regarding all aspects of 
>raising and marketing pastured chickens. I too have the "chicken tractor" 
>book and find it less useful than Salatin's. He also has specs for a 
>moveable pen, but a few people in Canada have modified it somewhat and 
>made it cheaper and easier to move. They use plastic tarp instead of 
>sheet metal, for instance, and have rigged up a way to use old bicycle 
>wheels attached to the pens that makes them much easier to move. 
>Hope this helps.
>Noel
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Hello,

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Dear Margaret,

A few places on the internet I found interesting were:

MidNet Organic: http://www.dircon.co.uk/midnet/organic/
Plants for a future: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/pfaf/
Harvesting the internet for gardening info:
http://www.snowcrest.net/backwood/online38.htm

Hope this helps.

Helen Coleman

>Hello,
>
>My name is Margaret and I've recently subscribed to this list.  I hope
>I'm doing this correctly.  I am interested in finding out about how to
>make a vegetable garden, I've seen some no dig gardens that use
>companion planting and mulching and things, I was hoping someone could
>direct me toward some information along these lines, preferably on-line.
>
>Regards
>Margaret
>
>

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To Victor Guest and All,

On what basis would permaculturists believe that we can produce the
world's food on 4.5% of arable land? Have there been any studies which
quantify permaculture production of food?

Emanuele John Gelsi 			s100962@student.uq.edu.au
Dept of Anthropology and Sociology  	University of Qld	Australia

Christians Respecting Earth And The Environment 
http://honey.acu.edu.au/~tony/create.html
Australian Coalition for Economic Justice
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On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Victor Guest wrote:

snip> 
> 
> Monoculture as a sort of rule of thumb can only produce about 10% of the 
> natural bush. The microcosm's around a house can produce all of the
> environments from temperate to tropical. If the house covers half the block
> in a 20in rainfall and we save the water from the roof area. and use it to 
> grow food, we are effectively in a 40inch rainfall. Permaculturists believe
> that we could produce the worlds food on 4.5% of the arable land.

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>From: HELEN COLEMAN <helenc@southwest.com.au>
>To: Permaculture WA <perma@eepo.com.au>
>Dear Margaret,
>
>A few places on the internet I found interesting were:
>
>MidNet Organic: http://www.dircon.co.uk/midnet/organic/
>Plants for a future: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/pfaf/
>Harvesting the internet for gardening info:
>http://www.snowcrest.net/backwood/online38.htm
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Helen Coleman
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>My name is Margaret and I've recently subscribed to this list.  I hope
 I need to get this info on a page at Perma.
 http://www.eepo.com.au/permacul.html:-Tomorow night is PAWA in Perth, so 
I'll see if there is any more info.

Regards,
          Vic
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If you include greywater reuse with the rainfall you have doubled off the
roof area you have more water and more nutrients.  This could be included
in the calculation.


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>To Victor Guest and All,
>
>On what basis would permaculturists believe that we can produce the
>world's food on 4.5% of arable land? Have there been any studies which
>quantify permaculture production of food?

I don't know of the studies I only can pass on to you the Philosophy.

Most suburban homes in Australia (as an example) if they planted food in 
their gardens could produce 60-70% maybe more of their needs.
plus eggs, nuts meat, fruit etc. If we see what the potentials are if you
use all the microcosms which are in an enviroment this potential is 
possibly more like 90%. the other thing here is that the health of these 
people would improve dramatically.
We would not need to worry about income so much if we had a smaller need.
We would need to get our farmers to rethink their production streams and
we could grow more trees and return more land to wilderness.

By enhancing nature (permaculture) we can possibly grow more than whatever 
is the seen as the natural potential now. You need to read "The One Straw 
Revolution" to get the concepts which have as we understand not been 
eclipsed by anything of an artificial chemical nature.
Christians Respecting Earth And The Environment and the Australian 
Coalition for Economic Justice, are both groups who could do to study 
these techniques as well as Holistic Management.

>Emanuele John Gelsi 			s100962@student.uq.edu.au
>Dept of Anthropology and Sociology  	University of Qld	Australia
>
>Christians Respecting Earth And The Environment 
>http://honey.acu.edu.au/~tony/create.html
>Australian Coalition for Economic Justice
>http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/cwpp/acej
>On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Victor Guest wrote:
>
>snip> 
>> 
>> Monoculture as a sort of rule of thumb can only produce about 10% of the 
>> natural bush. The microcosm's around a house can produce all of the
>> environments from temperate to tropical. If the house covers half the block
>> in a 20in rainfall and we save the water from the roof area. and use it to 
>> grow food, we are effectively in a 40inch rainfall. Permaculturists believe
>> that we could produce the worlds food on 4.5% of the arable land.
>

Regards,
          Vic
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Hi to all!

A couple of weekends ago I attended the South Coast Field day at
Candelo, NSW. It was refreshing to go to an Ag Show and not have
to walk around $1 million combine harvesters or be bombarded with
the latest agro-chemical free samples and trees-worth of glossy
hype, although I did accept a sample bag of seaweed compost :-)

However, for me the highlights of the weekend were the lectures
given by David Holmgren who spoke on 'Farm Forestry and Regrowth'
on the Saturday, and 'A Permaculture Approach to Weeds' on the
Sunday. It was the first time I had heard David speak, and was
very impressed at both his professionalism, presentation skills, 
and content. His talks were interesting and always tinged with
a hint of anarchism (particularly regarding his definition of
weeds, which made some Landcare adherents shift uneasily a couple
of times!) Pat Coleby also spoke on 'Natural Animal Care and Farming'
- although I did not catch Pat's lecture. Having read much of her
material, I'm sure it was another fascinating hour.

The third speaker for the weekend (which is really the reason for
this post) was Greg Bender, a research biologist who spoke on 
'The Role of Legumes Working for Us'. Greg showed how the fixation
of nitrogen by legumes is not an automatic process simply because
the plant is growing. Two major factors which determine the quantity
of atmospheric nitrogen fixed are the level of nutrients in the soil
and the availability of the correct mycorrhizal bacteria.

If the soil is already rich in nutrients (particularly nitrogen)
then the legume will simply grow like a normal plant using the 
elements from the soil, and very little atmospheric nitrogen will
be fixed. The nitrogen nodules may still grow on the roots, but
they will not be functioning (Greg showed how to test a nodule
to see if atmospheric fixing was taking place). In other words,
it is the poorest soils which will fire legumes into fixing the
most atmospheric nitrogen.

However, no nitrogen will be fixed at all if the correct 
mycorrhizal bacteria is missing, as it is the symbiotic 
relationship between the plant and the bacteria which fixes
the nitrogen - the plant cannot do it on its own. Most native
legumes are able to find the appropriate mycorrhiza in our soils,
but introduced species may have a hard time finding the one they
need. This is why legume crops are now inoculated with a species-
specific mycorrhiza (this is the area Greg now works in - 
identifying and manufacturing the specific mycorrhiza for farm
legume crops).

And so, finally, to the questions :-)

1. Are the non-native species of legumes that we use in
permaculture actually fixing much nitrogen, seeing very few of
us would be inoculating our seeds?

2. At what point does the nitrogen fixed into nodules become
available? Do we have to wait for the plant to die? or are nodules
'sloughed off' during the life of the plant?

3. Is there much point in planting legumes in rich soil 
specifically for nitrogen fixing purposes?

Hope someone can give some light on this. I am just establishing
a small permaculture demonstration orchard, and need to think about
what to grow underneath the trees. Traditional permaculture lore has 
it that a mixture of perennial low-growing legumes is the way to go
(pigeon pea, etc), but I now think that ground cover acacias may 
be a better bet. Any thoughts?

Regards, and thanks for your patience.

Keith

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  Keith Elwell-Gavins
  Queanbeyan, NSW
  Australia
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SAEd-Share-L Educational Materials Archival Post

This post dates from 25 Oct 1995. Compilation by Molly Anderson,
manderso@emerald.tufts.edu, Tufts, USA. This post was also listed on SANET.

>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>

Moll's post begins here:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>This doesn't pretend to be a complete list;  we could keep adding
>>excellent references indefinitely.  However, it's a start for those who
>>are teaching agroecology;  and it gives the rest of us an idea of what is
>>being included in that field currently.
>>
>>Molly D. Anderson
>>Director, Degree Program in Agriculture, Food and Environment
>>Tufts University School of Nutrition Science & Policy
>>Medford, MA  02155-7028

>>The following is a compilation of responses to my query about
>>a good text for an agroecology course, specifically one that
>>covers the basic ecological principles underlying
>>agricultural production with attention to different
>>agricultural systems and geographic regions.
>>
>>First, THANK YOU to everyone who took the time to respond.
>>It is wonderful to see (and benefit from) the network in
>>action.  Second, the diversity of topics people include
>>within "agroecology" is remarkable.  The texts recommended
>>below range far and wide.  Third, many people said they would
>>like a text similar to the one I am seeking;  but they have
>>been unable to find something comprehensive at a suitable
>>price for students' wallets.  Most people teaching
>>agroecology courses are trying to cobble together readings
>>and selections from books.
>>
>>The stars preceding references below indicate the number of
>>times a particular book was recommended, not necessarily a
>>quality ranking.  I'm sure we are leaving out some relevant
>>references:  if your favorite text is not here, please feel
>>free to notify the list.  I checked references in my personal
>>library and on the Library of Congress MARC file, but
>>couldn't get complete citations or a confirmation of the information
>>others had sent me on a few of these.
>>
>>Recommended books (either main texts, or supplements dealing
>>with specific topics):
>>
>>******** Altieri, Miguel.  1995.  Agroecology:  The Science
>>of Sustainable Agriculture.  2nd Edition.  Boulder:  Westview
>>Press.  (many people recommended the first edition, but the
>>2nd is now available)
>>
>>**** Loomis, R.S. and Conner, D.J.  1992.  Crop Ecology:
>>Productivity and Management in Agricultural Systems.
>>Cambridge University Press.
>>
>>*** Carroll, C. Ronald, John H. Vandermeer and Peter M.
>>Rosset (Eds.).  1990.  Agroecology.  New York:  McGraw-Hill.
>>
>>** Edwards, C.A., R. Lal, P. Madden, R. Miller and G. House
>>(Eds.).  Sustainable Agricultural Systems.  Ankeny, Iowa:
>>Soil & Water Conservation Society.
>>
>>** Gliessman, Stephen.  199_.  Agroecology: Ecological
>>Processes in Sustainable Agriculture. (forthcoming text)
>>
>>** Reijntjes, Coen, Bertus Heverkort, and Ann Waters-Bayer.
>>19__.  Farming For The Future - An Introduction to Low-
>>External-Input and Sustainable Agriculture.  Information
>>Centre for Low-External-Input and Sustainable Agriculture
>>(ILEIA), Netherlands.
>>
>>** Tivy, Joy.  1990.  Agricultural Ecology.  Essex, England:
>>Longman Scientific and Technical.
>>
>>* Beets, Willem. 19__.  Raising and Sustaining Productivity
>>of Smallholder Agriculture in the Tropics. AgBe Publishing.
>>
>>* Bender, Jim.  1994.  Future Harvest.  Pesticide-Free
>>Farming.  Lincoln, Nebraska:  University of Nebraska Press.
>>
>>* Berry, Wendell.  1977.  The Unsettling of America:  Culture
>>and Agriculture.  San Francisco:  Sierra Club Books.
>>
>>* Bird, Elizabeth Ann R., Gordon L. Bultena and John C.
>>Gardner (Eds.).  1995.  Planting the Future:  Developing an
>>Agriculture that Sustains Land and Community.  Ames, Iowa:
>>Iowa State University Press.
>>
>>* Briggs, David J. and Frank M. Courtney.  1985.  Agriculture
>>and Environment:  The Physical Geography of Temperate
>>Agricultural Systems.
>>
>>* Carter, Vernon Gill and Tom Dale.  1974.  Topsoil and
>>Civilization.  Norman:  University of Oklahoma Press.
>>
>>* Corson, Walter.  1990.  The Global Ecology Handbook:  What
>>You Can Do about the Environmental Crisis.  Washington, DC:
>>Global Tomorrow Coalition. (Phone: 202 628-4016)
>>
>>* Cox, George W. and Michael D. Atkin

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How about the woman in the USA who builds greenhouses on an
area equivalent to 16m by 16m ( the average australian backyard)
out of which she feeds HUNDREDS of people a green salad lunch each
day. !  This greenhouse uses ramps for vertical stacking, water,
and small animals and adjustable cover and shade etc to maintain
constant temp & humidity , and once fully stacked and functioning
the whole thing runs off sunlight, water and human guidance. The 
particulars are buried somewhere in my stack of old e-mails but
the point is made.  Who cares if there are "studies" . The fact is
we know we can make typical agriculture figures look like a joke
so just get on with it.  What we want is more people doing it
on the ground and less "studies".

Have fun all.

Paul Meleng                            Perth, Western Australia
paul.meleng@eepo.com.au                Tel.(08) 9381 3395

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I am one of the many good guys
and the bad guys are good guys too.
			-Harvey Jackins-

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Hi Mark,

You asked:
> A question on CSA's: do shareholders contribute cash up front for someone
else 
> to produce them fresh food? How are their returns delivered i.e. are they

> guaranteed a certain volume of produce for the season, for no charge? 
> 

This is exactly the scenario. Shareholders pay up front some certain "share
price" (it varies from CSA to CSA) at the beginning of the season,
theoretically. However, there are many variations to this. Mostly,
though,the farmer gets the cash somewhat at the beginning of the season to
fund his/her operation. The shareholders "return" is fresh produce for the
entire growing season. This fresh produce is whatever is in season. The
benefits are (1) fresh (usually picked that day), (2) organic (usually),
and (3) the shareholder knows for certain where the food came from and how
it was produced. Any indirect benefit is the locking in of a certain
percentage of the shareholders food supply.

Anyho, take care!!

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Hi folks !
Looks interesting but have tried several times this weekend to get into
these sites ... keep getting told 'wrong address'!!

Has anyone gotten in?  or have a different www address for them?

Thanks 
Elaine


At 05:16 PM 8/23/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear SAEd subscribers;
>
>I got this 'in the mail' and have not used it, so I do not know if these
>claims of greatness are substantiated. But looked interesting so here it is
>FYI. If someone knows something about this service, pop onto the list and
>tell us what you think or if there are hidden costs.
>
>Nancy GS
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>>
>>
>>Dear fellow agricultural enthusiast,
>>
>>        We have borrowed your desktop real-estate
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>>agricultural resources.
>>
>>1. AgriSurf! - the worlds largest searchable
>>   agricultural web index.
>>
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>>   email newsletter for agriculture.
>>
>>AgriSurf! has links to everything agricultural
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>>If you are looking for agricultural info on
>>the WWW - this is a great place to start.
>>
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Hi, This seems to me to be a universal problem, so I have forwarded it on 
to you, and i will follow it up when the newsletter come out.
Vic 

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From: Sandra Halpin <shalpin@igc.apc.org>

Hi Folks!

It's that time AGAIN--looking for story volunteers for the upcoming JANUARY
'98 Quarterly. Jody's in Africa and we're trying to wrap up that issue prior
to her return in mid-October and prior to my "official" departure from the
Center.

The theme of the upcoming Q is:  MONITORING HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS.

What I need from you is:

1. How our children help us "monitor" our Quality of Life!  

For example, one farmer in the Southwest, while taking people on a tour of
all his farm activities--and describing how he's working 70 hours a week,
etc.--had his young daughter continually pulling on his sleeve all day,
saying "Daddy, Daddy" -- obviously telling him he wasn't spending enough
time at home with the kids!

OR, a woman executive who had been stressed out and working nights on a law
suit in her community, had her young son ask her, "Mommy, do you think your
lawyer will give you permission to take a day off to go fishing with us?"

--Give us any examples from your own children or whatever--how children
intuitively know how to monitor quality of life and let us adults know!!!


2. I am looking for anyone who has attempted to create some means of
monitoring the "people stuff" who would be willing to share their
information in an article. 


I will excitedly await your responses. THANKS!!! best, sandy

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From: allans@achrm3.icon.co.zw ()

Dear  Ann
Sorry about the delay in replying. What prompted me is I have been 
trying to source chicken feed without additives (mainly coccidiostats 
and antibiotics) and all the feed manufacturers were incredulous that 
I should even want such a thing, I even had to explain what "organic" 
was, which gives some idea of the level of ignorance we're dealing 
with in this country. So what I'm trying to find are actual mixing ratio's
and types of grains etc. so I can make my own, perhaps you could 
ask the guy in Socorro what ratio's he uses and what variations he 
uses for chicks, layers, broilers etc. also if he uses any vitamin 
supplements and which ones. This sort of info just isn't available 
here so it would be a huge help to us.
Many thanks


> From: ann adams <holistic@compuserve.com>
> 
> Craig and Paula,
> 
> I just visited a producer in Socorro, NM who is processing about 400 birds
> a week.  He makes his own organic mix which is corn and roasted soybeans
> grown organically which he has trucked in then he grinds it himself.  He
> says he eats it sometimes.  The trucking was the most expensive part.  I
> think he calculated it to be $10 for 50lbs. which is about 25% more than
> commercial feed.
> 
> He also uses PVC for the frame of the tractors which the thinks is lighter.
>  He has 10' by 12' with part of the roof peaked so he can run a roosting
> bar across.  He also has the feed and water attached to the pen so it moves
> with it with a five gallon bucket with an emitter on top to feed into the
> waterer.  He was just going to stick a couple of boxes on the side.  I
> don't think the cage was that much lighter.  I think so much depends upon
> where yhou live and what predators you're dealing with.  He hwas very light
> chickenwire on his which would never do where we are as we are dealing with
> raccoons which require a hardward clothe so they can't get their paws
> through and a welded wire to keep out larger predators like coyotes.  He
> also uses tarp on top and tarp around during colder months which he bungee
> cords on at night and removes during the day.
> 
Craig & Paula Black
Dibangombe
P Bag 5950
Victoria Falls
Zimbabwe

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Anyone interested


 Vic

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>>                                                                         
>> FSDnews
>>                                                                     August, 
>>1997
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>>                                                                        
>> Edited by
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>>Service
>>
>>STAKEHOLDER INSTITUTIONS
>>
>>* Management of interdisciplinary R & D *
>>
>>FSD practioners have often been challenged by the question of how to arrange 
>>for the productive cooperation between the various disciplines and/or 
>>institutions which is required for successful rural development.  The 
>>importance of this issue was recognized by the International Agricultural 
>>Economics Association which asked Mr Jean-Marc Boussard to organize a 
>>mini-sysmposium titled: UHAgricultural economists and agricultural 
>>scientists: how can they cooperate?DH at its recent Conference in Sacramento, 
>>California.    Useful perspectives related to agricultural development 
>>projects, public agricultural extension and research and international 
>>organizations were presented.   It was concluded that the scale of 
>>interdisciplinary work is growing but there is substantial scope for 
>>increasing the effectiveness of such work.  Some of the means of increasing 
>>effectiveness are multidisciplinary frameworks of agricultural development 
>>processes, clear articulation of objectives and tasks, participatory team 
>>building techniques and multi-sectoral modeling.   For further information, 
>>contact Mr Jean-Marc Bossard (boussard@ivry.inra.fr).
>>
>>
>>FSD METHODOLOGIES
>>
>>*Sustainability Indicators*

>Grace, Blessings, & Peace,
>
>Willie Gibson, Extension Specialist - Sustainable Agriculture
>University of Vermont Extension
>RR 4, Box 2298
>Montpelier, VT 05602-8927
>ph: 802/223-2389  ext.16
>fax: 802/223-6500
>wgibson@sover.net    
>                    "I can do what you can't do, and you can do
>what I can't do.  Together we can do great things."
>                                     - Mother Teresa of Calcutta
>

Regards,
          Vic
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Mike Skinner wrote:
> 
> Jack,
>      What kind of legume specifically would you recommend for the Texas panhandle
> where I live? On dryland, particularily. The conflict I see is between water conservation and fertilizer/tilth improvement. This area receives between 15 to 25 inches in various sized events and temperatures usually 10 to 15 below in winter and 100 degrees in the summer. Not to mention the wind of 45 mph. Challenging!
>     Anyones' thoughts and comments would be appreciated.
>         Sincerely,
>            Mike Skinner, easyhay@arn.net
> 

Mike, 
        From my earlier post you can see that I'm also looking at the
use of legumes in PC. My climate here on the central tablelands
of inland New South Wales is also pretty severe with -10 degrees C
winters to 40C summers. Rainfall is about 600 mm (24") but we seem
to be having 3 or 4 years of drought out of every 5 at the moment.

One of the best local legumes I have growing wild is the acacia
species which have the advantages of being:
 
1. quick growing in almost any soil, 
2. perennial, 
3. leguminous, 
4. drought and frost tolerant, 
5. fairly open in habit and therefore does not create too much shade 
for understory spp., 
6. wide variability from small shrubs to trees.
7. profuse flowering with subsequent good drop of pods and seeds,
8. many seeds edible (makes a great coffee substitute!)
9. winter flowering (aesthetically stunning when in flower - a benefit
I think we often ignore in PC in our quest for functionality),
10. seeds will keep for many years.

The only negatives would perhaps be their relatively short life 
(5 - 10 years for the local spp. - some live longer). Their life can be
extended by prunning (and as Jack Rowe pointed out from 40 to 90 
percent or so of nitrogen ends up in the leaves, so this is a good way
to return nutrients every year). Also the seeds need to be activate
before planting by soaking or scarifying, but this is easy and the
germination rate is high. 

Most acacias are shrubs in the 2-3 metre range and will grow in the 
most hostile soils. They are usually fairly open and so allow 
understory plants without difficulty. (I am researching the use of
ground-cover acacias which the local nursery industry have developed
as well as tracking down any natural cultivars - as a ground cover I
think they will be excellent in PC). Our local species are pioneers and
seed naturally in the most degraded and disturbed spots. They like
growing underneath open eucalypts, but this is not symbiotic and are
quite happy on their own even in fairly dense concentrations (there is 
a local acacia farm forestry trial taking place by the government 
research body (CSIRO) - I am attending a progress seminar on this at 
the end of September - I'll post a report).

So, I guess you can see that I like acacias. As a PC plant they are
among the best, but even in Australia they have not yet been used to
their maximum benefit. I do not know what species you have available, 
but I think many of our varieties have been exported. If you do have
any Australian spp. available, let me know and I will give you the
horticultural info on them and suitabilty to your site.

All the best, Keith.

 =====================
  Keith Elwell-Gavins
    Queanbeyan, NSW
      Australia
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>From: Keith Elwell-Gavins <keitheg@tpgi.com.au>
>To: Permaculture WA <perma@eepo.com.au>
>Mike Skinner wrote:
>> 
>> Jack,
>>      What kind of legume specifically would you recommend for the Texas 
panhandle
>> where I live? On dryland, particularily. The conflict I see is between 
water conservation and fertilizer/tilth improvement. This area receives 
between 15 to 25 inches in various sized events and temperatures usually 
10 to 15 below in winter and 100 degr>ees in the summer. Not to mention the 
wind of 45 mph. Challenging!
>>     Anyones' thoughts and comments would be appreciated.
>>         Sincerely,
>>            Mike Skinner, easyhay@arn.net

I have seen Tagasaste (tree lucerne) come in to prominence in WA over 
the last few years and one of the ideas is alley farming at Dowerin with the
"Hedges" being one acacia or wattle and one tagasaste.
Taga as it is affectionatly called grows from Esperance to Geraldton to
my knowlwedge and from 12" to 30". It is used for feeding sheep and cattle 
and I have seen the effect of the nitrogen from prunings.
It was claimed that alley farming raised the yield by about 10%.
The Land Management Society have 3 plantations with about 24 varieties in
them and I can follow up there for you if you wish. 

>
>Mike, 
>        From my earlier post you can see that I'm also looking at the
>use of legumes in PC. My climate here on the central tablelands
>of inland New South Wales is also pretty severe with -10 degrees C
>winters to 40C summers. Rainfall is about 600 mm (24") but we seem
>to be having 3 or 4 years of drought out of every 5 at the moment.
>
>One of the best local legumes I have growing wild is the acacia
>species which have the advantages of being:
>So, I guess you can see that I like acacias. As a PC plant they are
>among the best, but even in Australia they have not yet been used to
>their maximum benefit. I do not know what species you have available, 
>but I think many of our varieties have been exported. If you do have
>any Australian spp. available, let me know and I will give you the
>horticultural info on them and suitabilty to your site.
>
>All the best, Keith.
>
> =====================
>  Keith Elwell-Gavins
>    Queanbeyan, NSW
>      Australia
> =====================
>

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>This is to advise you that USDA is establishing a new quarterly 
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>in October 1997 as a clearance process is required for establishing 
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>This new newsletter--The Small Farm Digest-- constitutes a merger of the 
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I hope this may be of interest to Holistic and Permaculture educators.
Vic Guest. 

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>************** BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT ***************
>
>    FARMER-TO-FARMER EXTENSION: LESSONS FROM THE FIELD
>
>by Daniel Selener, Jacqueline Chenier, Raul Zelaya et al. 1997. IIRR:
>New York. 150 pp. (Available in English and Spanish).

>      IIRR
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>FAX: (593-2) 443 763    or     e-mail:   daniel@iirr.ecx.ec
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>This book is the result of two workshops, one in Honduras and another
>in Ecuador, that were conducted to document and analyze the experiences
>of several rural development projects, using the "farmer-to-farmer"
>extension methodology.
>
>It is important to emphasize that most of the information contained
>in the book is from the farmer promoters (*) points of view, based on many
>years of their practical experience working in farmer-to-farmer programs.
>
>The description and analysis presented offers a broad set of experiences.
>This information can be analyzed and adapted by the reader to his/her
>own project, according to the context, project philosophy, objectives,
>and available resources, among others.
>
>The book contents are:
>
>PART I:
>
>DESCRIPTION AND ANALYSIS OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE FARMER-TO-FARMER METHODOLOGY
>
>Chapter 1:  Introduction
>Chapter 2:  Characteristics of farmer promoters
>Chapter 3:  What is the work of farmer promoters?
>Chapter 4:  How do farmer promoters do their work?
>Chapter 5:  Selection of farmer promoters
>Chapter 6:  Generalist and specialist farmer promoters
>Chapter 7:  Work location: in their community or in other communities
>Chapter 8:  Volunteer, part-time, and full-time farmer promoters
>Chapter 9:  Salaries and job incentives for farmer promoters
>Chapter 10: Training and technical assistance for farmer promoters
>Chapter 11: Relationship between extension agents and farmer promoters
>Chapter 12: Women farmer promoters
>Chapter 13: Some final considerations
>
>PART II: CASE STUDIES
>
>Chapters 14 to 18 present 5 case studies from Mexico, Nicaragua and Ecuador.
>
>This book is especially useful for people working in different kinds
>of projects (agriculture, health, education, community development,
>etc.) following participatory approaches to rural development.
>
>HOW TO ORDER:
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>(*) Farmer promoters are also known by a number of other names including:
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>farmer extension agents, local facilitators, community promoters,
>indigenous facilitators, and village extensionists, among others.
>

***************************
Nancy Grudens Schuck
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I hope I have the right of reply here.

Our discussions were about the effect of technology on sustainable 
agriculture and the information about vaccination in humans suggests that
hygene, cleanliness and general good health are much better against 
disease than vaccination.

>This stuff doesn't belong on the SAE-D list.  Perhaps I'm a bit biased,
>being an agriculturalist married to a "traditional" medical doctor who has
>spent most of her career practicing in Africa and seeing hundreds of
>patients die because they lack a 10 cent vaccination. 

It is no longer the case of an 11c. vaccine.

My point here is that you now have to contend with HIV because of a 10c.
polio vaccination and we now face the certainty that millions WILL die 
anyway with the disease spreading all over the world.

A major manufacturer of vaccines in England has gone out of production 
because of the cost of litigation.
An American manufacturer is reputed to have put $8 per vaccination aside
to pay for litigation im 1987.

It now costs $40 to vaccinate children in Australia. But at what !REAL! cost?

The pastuerisation of milk was seen as a breakthrough, yet the Longevity 
Institute in San Diego advised people to use natural ( unpastuerised)
milk because it appears that pasteurisation destroyed the natural enzymes
in milk that enabled us to digest it. The main thing was that pasteurisation
allowed a much lower level of hygene in dairies.
(They also advised the Australian Meat And Livestock Corporation,( the 
Government meat regulatory body) that the only meat Americans should eat was
Aust Pet meat, because it was the only meat that they could guarantee was 
free of contamination from chemicals etc., coming from the Australian North, 
where the cattle are only mustered for slaughter) 

It appears now that as many as 85% of the people in Europe may be allergic 
to milk.

If this is the case what are the side effects of vaccinating animals.?
(I know that Entrotoxaemia is easily controlled by good management 
practises). I don't know what the side effects may be in humans that eat 
the meat.

So what effect could the vaccine have on the humans that eat the meat?
Antibiotics and hormones fed to chickens and cattle are being linked with
immunity to antibiotics (and healing)in humans and hormonal problems for men
and women.
(Have you seen the cost of an amputation.)
DID YOU KNOW The sperm count in men worldwide has dropped 50% in the last
20 years. 50 men tested who eat bio-dynamic food show NO CHANGE.

What is causing the incidence of Asthma in our kids. It is running at 33% in 
my daughters class at school.(What profit to the pharmaceutical Industry) 

Why are so many people in gaol, and is this linked with Sustainable 
Agriculture.( I believe the answer is "YES")

The question you have to ask has the technology which we thought could feed 
the world really served us.

Bill Mollinson of Permaculture Fame has said and I agree. We know everything
we have to know we now just have to have the fortitude to put it in to 
practice.
 
Holistic Management as seen by Allan Savoury, shows that everytime we have 
tried to interfere in nature that the result was a disaster.

Let me assure you
>this:  If you think vaccinations cause health problems, wait until you delay
>them or go without them.  
>In any event, I'm violating my own first statement:  this stuff doesn't
>belong on this list!
>Tom Johnson
>
>At 11:40 AM 8/29/97 WST, you wrote:
>>
>>A group who presented information at the Arch conference The Vaccination
>>Awareness Group have as booklet called "Why Vaccinate".
>>We are told that vaccination rarely causes any problems.
>>As this is red nose week I would like to share with you their information.
>>
>>When a link was established between vaccination and (SIDS)Sudden Infant
>>Death Syndrome in 1975 the Japanese government Raised the  the minimum 
>>vaccination age to 24months. The SIDS dropped by 95%. 
>>
>>"It would appear that America and Japan Inadvertantly carried out the 
>>biggest and most comprehensive double blind study that showed that 
>>vaccination is a primary cause of cot death.
>>
>>My interest was galvanised when one of the 7 books for recommended reading
>>was "Vaccination, Social violence,and Criminality". "The Medical Assualt on 
>>the American Brain" By Harris L Coulter.

Sustainable Agriculture has to concern itself with human nutrition, which is
the same nutrition as you and I need. If you don't get the right nutrition
you can get sick and die. The land needs the same nutrients.
It is becoming more and more obvious that people who suffer from nutrient
deficiencies are being put into gaols and mental institutions.
What is this list about? Sustainable Agriculture Education. Permaculture is
Permanent Sustainable Agriculture/Culture. It is not much good having one 
without the other.

>>Now a couple of "Did you Knows"
>>
>>The American Government has paid out $800 Million in compensation to victims 
>>of vaccination. Over 2,600 cases are backlogged. 11,000 case are reported
>>annually and are possibly only 10 to 15% of adverse reaction.
>>
>>Investigation of HIV by Louis Pascal of the University of Woolongong (AUST), 
>>contends that. It was introduced into the Belgian Congo by the World Health
>>Organisation as a direct result of mass oral polio vaccination.
>> That the manufacturing process almost guaranteed contamination
>>by foreign viruses which could not be killed without killing the polio virus.
>>
>>There is mounting evidence from around the world of the many side effects of 
>>the different vaccines linked to:-- Arthritis, Chronic fatigue, asthma, HIV
>>allergies, diabetes, Hyperactivity, ADD, Autism, Leukaemia, cancer, however 
>>at the top of the pyramid we find SIDS.
>>
>>America will have 2mill people incarcerated by the year 2,000. (from a paper
>>on Restorative Justice read at a conference in New Zealand).
>>
>>How many are the victims of vacination.
>>
>> In Western Australia it is thought that between 60 to 80% of prisoners are 
>>ADD, 15% are illiterate. 
>>
>> Other information about the status of minerals in the bodies of violent
>>criminals sees them as being treatable.

>Thomas R. Johnson, Facilitator
>Policy Working Group
>Michigan Integrated Food & Farming Systems
>323 Natural Resources
>Michigan State University
>East Lansing, MI 48824-1222
>517-353-3209 (ext. 3)
>johns632@pilot.msu.edu
>

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          Vic
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Biological Agriculture & Horticulture is an international journal for 
sustainable production systems published by, and obtainable from:  AB 
Academic Publishers, P.O. Box 42, Bicester, Oxon OX6 7NW, U.K.

Volume 14(3) has recently been published with the following contents:

Effects of castor oil plant/cassava/cocoyam intercrops on soil 
nematode population, crop infestation and yields of component crops.  
R.A.E. Ugbaja.

Cation exchange and reducing capacities as criteria for compost 
quality.  M. Jokova et al.

Effects of seaweed on potato yeidls and soil chemistry.  M.E. 
Lopez-Mosquera and P. Pazos.

Experimental trials and modelling of hydrogen and propane burners for 
use in selective flaming.  J. Andersen.

Effect of manure on crop yield and quality in an organic agricultural 
system.  K. Stein-Bachinger and W. Werner.

Molluscicidal activity of some common spice plants.  S. Singh et al.

Editorial correspondence and manuscripts for publication should be 
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Prof. P.J.C. Harris, Editor, Biological Agriculture & Horticulture, 
School of Natural and Environmental Sciences, Coventry University, 
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>From: m-miller@ramhb.co.nz (Melanie Miller)
>To: Multiple recipients of list <ag-impact@freedom.mtn.org>

>Many apologies for any cross-posting.
>
>Dear friends,
>
>Greetings!  We have produced an International Directory of Companies
>Supplying Alternatives to Methyl Bromide.  We are urgently seeking
>additional companies, products and services to add to the next edition of
>the Directory.
>
>Methyl bromide is a fumigant applied to soil (for horticultural crops),
>stored grains and commodities.  Use of methyl bromide is scheduled to be
>phased out under an international government agreement (the Montreal
>Protocol), because it depletes the ozone layer.
>
>The Directory will assist users of methyl bromide to identify products and
>services which can control the pests and pathogens currently controlled by
>methyl bromide.
>
>We would be very grateful for information.  We are urgently looking for:
>
>1.  Names and addresses of any companies (or institutes or consultants) who
>supply products or services which can replace (or partly replace) methyl
>bromide.  Examples of alternatives are given below.  We would like to
>include companies and products in all regions, including Africa, Latin
>America, North America, Asia and Europe.
>
>2.  Other contacts who might be able to provide names of companies or products.
>
>If you are able to help, please complete the questions given below.  We
>would be grateful for a response as soon as possible.
>
>Not-for-profit organisations or individuals who send information for the
>Directory will receive a free copy when the next edition is published.
>
>Many thanks!
>
>Sincerely,
>Melanie Miller.
>
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>EXAMPLES OF PRODUCTS AND SERVICES - ALTERNATIVES TO METHYL BROMIDE
>
>A variety of products can replace methyl bromide.  Often products must be
>combined with other treatments, or used as part of an integrated system, in
>order to control the full spectrum of pests.
>
>a)  Examples of products which can control soil pests or diseases:
>(for crops such as strawberries, melons, tomatoes, peppers, flowers and
>tobacco, in seedbeds or open fields or greenhouses)
>
>- plastic sheets for solarisation
>- biological control products eg, Trichoderma, Gliocladium, microbial additives
>- natural or artificial substrates or substrate systems
>- soil amendments, disease-suppressive compost, composting equipment
>- steam equipment
>- chemicals such as dazomet, metham-sodium, chloropicrin
>
>b)  Examples of services which can control soil pests or diseases:
>
>- portable steam treatments
>- horticultural IPM training services
>- consultants in IPM or biological control
>- consultants in permaculture, organic or biodynamic agriculture
>- relevant research services
>- soil pest and pathogen monitoring services
>
>c)  Examples of products and services for stored grain pests:
>
>- training in IPM for stored products
>- fumigants such as phosphine, carbon dioxide
>- modified atmosphere treatments, hermetic storage
>- inert dusts
>- biological controls and insect growth regulators for grains
>- specialist sheeting for carbon dioxide fumigations
>
>
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION, PLEASE COMPLETE THE QUESTIONS BELOW
>
> - please send information, even if you cannot answer all the questions
> - please repeat questions 1-12 for EACH company
> - please return as soon as possible to:
>
>Dr Melanie Miller, PO Box 665, Napier, New Zealand
>Tel & fax:  +646 835 3501
>email:   m-miller@ramhb.co.nz
>
>Many thanks!
>
>Section A.  INFORMATION ABOUT COMPANIES AND PRODUCTS
>
>1. Company name:
>2. Company address:
>3. Tel:
>4. Fax:
>5. email:
>6. Contact person in company:
>7. Trade name of product (or service):
>8. Brief description of product (or service):
>9. Is the product (or service) for soil or commodities or something else?
>10. List the crops or commodities which the product (or service) is
>effective for:
>11. List main pests and pathogens controlled by product (or service):
>12. Geographical region where product (or service) can be supplied:
>
>If the company supplies more than one product/service, please repeat
>questions 7 - 12 for each product or service.
>
>Section B.  OTHER CONTACTS
>
>Please list contacts (eg. individuals, companies) who might be able to
>provide information for the Directory.
>Repeat questions 13-19 for each contact.
>
>13.  Contact name:
>14.  Organisation:
>15.  Address:
>16.  Tel:
>17.  Fax:
>18.  email:
>19.  Brief note of the type of information the contact can provide:
>
>Section C.  YOUR ADDRESS
>
>A free copy of the Directory will be sent to not-for-profit organisations
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>any other purpose.
>
>20.  Your name:
Victor guest
>21.  Your postal address:
PERMA@eepo.com.au
>Thankyou for your help!
>
>****************************************************************
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>
>

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          Vic
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Learn how to Clear Negative Effects!

Alexander Freis-Terch from Austria,  is offering a workshop which will teach us a simple method of reversing negative effects in many areas, eg. healing the human body, water and soils.  This modality is called “New Homoeopathy” and has only recently been developed in Austria.  It can be practised by those with no previous healing experienced and will add to the knowledge of professional healers.

Alexander recently demonstrated a very simple method of reversing negative effects of the homoeopathic imprint of pesticide and other chemicals carried in water. This may offer a simple method of removing the inappropriate information carried in our water systems as highlighted by Callum Coates in his recent workshop.  

Workshops:

Sunday, 14th Sept:  Jo Darbyshire’s, 1800 Wanneroo Road, Neerabup.
10 am. - 3pm.  Please bring own lunch, teas and coffee supplied.  Cost $25. All welcome.

Monday, 15th Sept:  Devryn’s Health Clinic, 12 Verticordia Place, Greenwood.
7pm - 10pm.  Cost $25.  Appropriate for healing practitioners and their students.

Wednesday, 10th Sept:  Lyn Hatswill, 17 Lutey Avenue, Daglish - 7.30pm - 10pm.  Please park only in Troy Tce.  Cost $25.  
Workshop for those practising Reflexology and Metamorphosis and their students.  This workshop does not relate specifically to “New Homoeopathics”.

Contact:
Pat Dare, 8 Palana Road, City Beach, 6015
Tel: 9385 9954, or leave a message 9385 7228
Fax: 9385 7228





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          Vic
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     Subject: Calls for Proposals 
     From: lizacker@vt.edu (Elizabeth Ackermann) 
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Greetings all!

Just getting into permaculture and enjoying this list very much.
Educational _and_ entertaining ;-)


Got a notice of these research funding opportunities during the course
of
my 9-5 job. Thought some of you might be interested.

Please note that each of these Calls for Proposals have different
criteria
and areas of interest, as well as geographic limitations.

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Sustainable Agriculture Research and Education (SARE) is a USDA
competitive grants program supporting profitable, environmentally sound,
socially acceptable agricultural systems.

Western Region Sustainable Agriculture Research and Educ Prog (SARE)
 Research and Education Projects
 The SARE Program's purpose is to encourage research and education to
increase knowledge concerning integrated systems of plant and animal
producation practices having a site specific application that will, over
the long-term: satisfy human food and fiber needs; enhance environmental
quality and the natural resource base upon which the agriculture economy
depends; make the most
efficient use of nonrenewable resources and on-farm resources and
integrate, where appropriate, natural biological cycles and controls;
sustain the economic viability of farm operations; and enhance the
quality
of life for farmers and society as a whole.
DEADLINES ANNOUNCED:          10/29/97
http://ext.usu.edu/wsare/


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Two weeks ago I sent an inquiry regarding watershed projects that were
farmer-led.  I have been looking for projects that have used innovative
ways to reduce agriculture's impact on the environment.  I received a
tremendous response.  Several responses were from Australia, as could be
expected.  Below is a brief summary of the postings, as promised.  Thanks
for the responses.

Julie Elfving:
"Depending on how flexible your definition is of "farmer-led" efforts,
there are tons of potential projects like this.  Many of these will have
had public funding support, such as Clean Water Act Section 319 Nonpoint
Source dollars.  There are others that were initiated using private funding
sources.  One of these (although it does have some 319 funding now) is the
Raccoon River Watershed Project in Iowa, managed by Roger Wolf...Also,
CTIC's national watershed network may be a source of information."

Dr. Dwight S. Fisher:
"We have a SARE grant that is funded and getting underway and entitled
"Producer Assessment of Land Management Practices to Protect Water
Quality".  Both proposals are geared toward producer involvement in the
process of evaluation of BMPs.  The work is in the Greenbriar Creek and
Rose Creek watersheds south of the station here in Watkinsville."

Dan Heminway:
"Are you familiar with Water for Every Farm--Yeomans Keyline Method, by PA
Yeomans?  It is the only system I know of in which farmers, aiming for
profit, using mainly conventional equipment or equipment close enough to be
comfortable, actually build soil instead of just maintaining it.  It was
developed in Australia."

Earle W. Cummings:
John Anderson...has long been active with the California Native
Grass Association and the Yolo Resource Conservation District...He grows
native grass seed for watershed restoration as a commercial crop, and has
developed several watershed management practices in addition to encouraging
perennial grass restoration. He can demonstrate roadside plantings that
support overwintering beneficial insects, emergent wetland plantings in
irrigation tailwater recovery ponds that efficiently recapture sediment and
nutrients, or levee plantings that reduce maintenance costs on flood
protection structures as well as improving wildlife habitat and increasing
farm revenue by increasing rents available to the farmer for hunting use.

..You will also hear about Dennis Bowker, who has developed the concept of
Land Stewardships.  These are watershed-based groups that stake out a role
for themselves as soil and water problem solvers.  The Huichica Land
Stewardship was developed in a grape growing region, the Napa Valley.
Water quality, flooding, and endangered species concerns were being raised,
with grape growers being cast as the villains. With Dennis' help, the
vineyard owners took responsibility for managing their watershed more
actively.  Interplantings of perennial grasses between rows of grapes, more
efficient irrigation systems, terracing to reduce sediment runoff and so on
are becoming the norm."

Nancy Matheson:
"You might want to contact the Montana Salinity Control Association. They
work with individual farmers and with farmer groups that want to mitigate
and prevent saline seep in dryland and irrigated cropping systems. Several
groups are working on an underground watershed basis, focusing on both the
seep and upland recharge areas, some covering several square miles and many
landowners. I know they also have a project with a bird refuge and
the surrounding farmers and ranchers whose farm management over the
years has impacted the refuge's water quality."

John Davis:
"One of the major impacts of a nation wide 'Decade of Land Care' in
Australia has been the mushrooming of large and small "catchment groups"
who come together to manage the soil, water and natural vegetation
resources on just the voluntary watershed-based principles you seem to be
asking about.
You should be able to search land care and Landcare on the WWW."

Dr. Stewart Lockie:
"If you are looking for farmer-led catchment management initiatives more
generally you may like to look into the Australian Landcare Program, which
now has, reportedly, over 3,000 groups. Many of these groups are involved in
farm and catchment planning, as well as a range of other catchment
management activities. Landcare is supported and promoted by both the
Federal and State governments, but Landcare groups are themselves voluntary
and self-directed.

The most recent books on Landcare are:
Lockie, S. and Vanclay, F. (1997) Critical Landcare. Centre for Rural Social
Research: Wagga Wagga. email Frank Vanclay at fvanclay@csu.edu.au for
ordering details.

Campbell, A. (1994) Landcare: Communities Shaping the Land and the Future.
Allen and Unwin: Sydney."

Neil MacLeod:
"In Australia the different states have formally initiated community-based
catchment management initiatives that are a partnership between the
community groups (mainly farmers and rural community dwellers
and larger urban communities), local governmant and state government
agencies responsible for town and country planning, watershed management,
as well as agriculture and terrestial, estuarine and marine resource
management in general. In Queensland this is known as Catchment Care
and...seeks to take a more regional ICM approach to resource management
than LandCare (which also continues)."

William Hecht:
"Check with City of Syracuse NY whole farm planning program on Skaneateles
Lake which is water supply for 450000 people. Contact Lee MacBeth City of
Syracuse"  

___________________________________________________

Mark Muller
Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy
2105 First Avenue South
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA  55404
Direct phone  612-870-3420
General phone 612-870-0453
Fax           612-870-4846
mmuller@iatp.org
www.iatp.org/iatp

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<H3><A HREF="intro.html">Introduction</A></H3>

<H3>Chapter One - Keynote Presentations</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch01/mollison/index.html">What Is Permaculture?</A><BR>
<I>Bill Mollison (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch01/khumbane/index.html">Integrating Food Security And Traditional
Knowledge: Permaculture Approaches For Poverty Alleviation In South Africa</A><BR>
<I>Tshepo Khumbane (South Africa)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch01/lindegger/index.html">The Global Movement Towards Eco-villages</A><BR>
<I>Max O. Lindegger (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch01/savory/index.html">Permaculture's Role In Sustaining Civilization</A><BR>
<I>Allan Savory (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch01/chan/index.html">Why Integrated Permaculture For The Wet
Tropics?</A><BR>
<I>Professor George Chan (Mauritius)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch01/watkins/index.html">Farming Within The Eco-system</A><BR>
<I>Ron Watkins (Australia)</I></P></LI>
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<H3>Chapter Two - Earth Care Stream</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/woodward/index.html">Dryland Water Management And Organic
Farming</A><BR>
<I>Peter Woodward (Australia) </I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/moore/index.html">Saving Our Heritage Livestock</A><BR>
<I>Alanna Moore (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/henderson/index.html">Wetland Rehabilitation And Sustainable
Land Practices: An Harmonious Coexistence</A><BR>
<I>Robert Henderson (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/tredwell/index.html">Creating And Managing Productive
Pastures In The Dry Tropical Regions Of The World</A><BR>
<I>Robyn Tredwell (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/winton/index.html">Permanent Forestry: Commercialising
Earth Care Through Restoration Forestry</A><BR>
<I>Tim Winton and Gary Cowan (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/ogorman/index.html">Similicure</A><BR>
<I>Eric O'Gorman &amp; Ben Rozendal (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/orion/index.html">Close Packing Of Plants In Water Harvesting
Systems</A><BR>
<I>Halin Orion (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/cochrane/index.html">Future Agriculture: Change Of Attitude, Change In Latitude</A><BR>
<I>Donald Cochrane (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/benschop/index.html">Water: Lifeblood Of The Earth</A><BR>
<I>Johanna Benschop (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/fanton/index.html">Counteracting Bio-Engineering And Bio-Piracy: Participatory Conservation
Of The Genetic Basis Of Tomorrow's Food</A><BR>
<I>Jude Fanton (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/firth/index.html">Permaculture In Semi-Arid Areas and Patterns</A><BR>
<I>Julie Firth (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/cuming/index.html">Experiential Earth Medicine</A><BR>
<I>Robyn Cuming (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/osentowski/index.html">Creating The Forest Garden</A><BR>
<I>Jerome Osentowski and Peter Bane (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/withers/index.html">The Use Of Earthworms To Convert Hardpan To Arable Soil, Without Mechanical
Tillage, Followed By Cycling With Poultry For The Sustainable Production
Of Food In The Dry Tropics</A><BR>
<I>Bill Withers (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/brooks/index.html">Auroville - Reaching Out</A><BR>
<I>Joss Brooks (India)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/skye/index.html">River Rehabilitation Work In Dry Tropical Environments (Mexico)</A><BR>
<I>Skye (Mexico)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/oldfield/index.html">Rock Dust Puts Out More Than You Think</A><BR>
<I>Barrie Oldfield (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/brooks2/index.html">Revitalisation Of The Indigenous Flora (Particularly Medicinal Plants)
And Traditional Knowledge Of The Coromandel Coastal Region Of South India</A><BR>
<I>Joss Brooks (India)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch02/fanton2/index.html">The Seed Savers' Network</A><BR>
<I>Jude Fanton (Australia)</I></P></LI>
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<H3>Chapter Three - Economics Stream</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch03/maniapoto/index.html">Local Action For Economic Development In Indigenous Communities</A><BR>
<I>Jo Maniapoto (New Zealand)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch03/scott/index.html">New Economic Strategies</A><BR>
<I>Jim Scott (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch03/monckton/index.html">How to Earn A Living Installing Productive Home Food Gardens</A><BR>
<I>Lisa Ann Monckton (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch03/kavanagh/index.html">Farmer-Consumer Co-partnership Agreements In Japan</A><BR>
<I>Helen Kavanagh (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch03/sampson/index.html">Minding Your Permaculture Business</A><BR>
<I>April Sampson-Kelly (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch03/mack/index.html">Archimedes Trading Network</A><BR>
<I>Thomas Mack (USA)</I></P></LI>
</UL>

<H3>Chapter Four - Education Stream</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch04/smith/index.html">The Getting Of Hope: Personal Empowerment Through Permaculture</A><BR>
<I>Caroline Smith (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch04/clayfield/index.html">Creative Education</A><BR>
<I>Robyn Clayfield and Skye (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch04/tippett/index.html">A Pattern System For Permaculture Design</A><BR>
<I>Joanne Tippett (UK &amp; Southern Africa)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch04/finane/index.html">Using Simulation Games In Development Education</A><BR>
<I>Jill Finane (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch04/mccurdy/index.html">A Participatory Approach To Designing School Grounds</A><BR>
<I>Robyn McCurdy (NZ and South Africa)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch04/bodholt/index.html">Permaculture Education: Kolding Folk High School Model</A><BR>
<I>Ole Bodholt (Denmark)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch04/chirere/index.html">Zimbabwe Schools Program</A><BR>
<I>Isabelle Chirere, Simba Muzuva, Rob Sacco (Zimbabwe)</I></P></LI>
</UL>

<H3>Chapter Five - People Care Stream</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/ramsden/index.html">&quot;Zone C&quot;: A Place For Children</A><BR>
<I>Salli Ramsden and Tania Strebl (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/nanavaty/index.html">Political Economy Of Permaculture</A><BR>
<I>Reema Nanavaty (India)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/swindell/index.html">Living Biogenic Nutrition</A><BR>
<I>Yvonne Swindell &amp; Manny Stuhl (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/ramsden2/index.html">Healing Design</A><BR>
<I>Salli Ramsden and Alanna Moore (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/clayfield/index.html">Fun And Games Session</A><BR>
<I>Robin Clayfield and Eugenio Gras (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/coleman/index.html">Establishing A Sustainable Local Group</A><BR>
<I>Naomi And Rick Coleman (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/mcdonough/index.html">Solution To Pollution, Natural Step, And The Permaculture Labyrinth</A><BR>
<I>Carol McDonough and Chris Phillips (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch05/lawton/index.html">Establishing A Strong Local Permaculture Network</A><BR>
<I>Geoff Lawton (Australia)</I></P></LI>
</UL>

<H3>Chapter Six - Projects Stream</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/osentowski/index.html">The Nicuragua Project</A><BR>
<I>Jerome Osentowski (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/pires/index.html">Permaculture In Bahia - Brazil</A><BR>
<I>Liliana Pires (Brazil)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/sharif/index.html">The Development Of Permaculture In The Humid Tropics Of South America:
Brazil, Ecuador, Peru And Guatamala</A><BR>
<I>Ahmed Ali Sharif (Peru)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/jones/index.html">Urban Food Production In Bulawayo</A><BR>
<I>Hayden Jones (Zimbabwe)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/vanman/index.html">VAC And Permaculture In Viet Nam</A><BR>
<I>Nguyen Van Man (Viet Nam)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/devereux/index.html">Permaculture For A Sustainable Nicaragua: Consultation, Education
And Action</A><BR>
<I>Peter Devereux (representing Fundacion A. C. Sandino, Nicaragua)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/alailima/index.html">Manono: An Experiment With Community Based Eco-tourism</A><BR>
<I>Fay and Leiataua Ala'ilima (Western Samoa)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/muzuva/index.html">Permaculture In Zimbabwe</A><BR>
<I>Simba Muzuva, Rob Sacco, Brigid O'Connor (Zimbabwe)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/evans/index.html">The Work Of The Jajarkot Permaculture Programme</A><BR>
<I>Chris Evans (Nepal)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/wright/index.html">Urban Permaculture In Havana: Implications For Sustainable Cities Of The South And North</A><BR>
<I>Sarah Wright, Toni Phillips, John McKenzie, &amp; Adam Tiller (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/malla/index.html">Permaculture In Nepal: A Decade</A><BR>
<I>Thakuri Malla (Nepal)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/narasanna/index.html">A Short Report On The Evolution Of Permaculture In India (With Reference
To Andhra Pradesh)</A><BR>
<I>Koppula Narasanna (India)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/bodel/index.html">Community Gardens: Places For Food Production, Places For People</A><BR>
<I>Neal Bodel and Martin Anda (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/morrow/index.html">Permaculture In Cambodia</A><BR>
<I>Rosemary Morrow and Rob Allsop (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/tiller/index.html">International Volunteers, International Partnerships</A><BR>
<I>Adam Tiller and Peter Devereux (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/ponna/index.html">Permaculture In A War Zone</A><BR>
<I>Mrs Em Ponna (Cambodia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/desilva/index.html">The Formation Of An Organic Produce Cooperative Of Small Farmers</A><BR>
<I>Ranjith de Silva (Sri Lanka)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/mendoza/index.html">Upscaling The Adoption Of Ecologically Sound Agriculture In The Philippines</A><BR>
<I>Teodoro C. Mendoza (Philippines)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/mack/index.html">Native American Permaculture At Tesuque Pueblo: 1997 Program Description</A><BR>
<I>Thomas Mack (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/mack2/index.html">Third International Eco-City Conference And Permaculture Design Certification
Course Yoff, Senegal, January 1996</A><BR>
<I>Thomas Mack (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/kachali/index.html">Permaculture In Malawi</A><BR>
<I>Harrings Kachali (Malawi)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/calland/index.html">Garden Djama In Arnhem Land: Permaculture Design With The Barrara And
Djinang</A><BR>
<I>Dave Calland (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/mccurdy/index.html">Tlholego Project</A><BR>
<I>Robyn McCurdy (New Zealand and South Africa)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/odeh/index.html">Permaculture In Palestine</A><BR>
<I>Huda Odeh and Raafat Khufash (Palestine)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/campbell/index.html">Developing Community Gardens</A><BR>
<I>Fiona Campbell, Russ Grayson, Supapon Raffan, Morag Gamble (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/grayson/index.html">Australian City Farms, Community Gardens And Enterprise Centres Network</A><BR>
<I>Fiona Campbell and Russ Grayson (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/morrow2/index.html">Innovative High Risk Perma Projects With Ethnic People In Viet Nam</A><BR>
<I>Rosemary Morrow with Mr. Ha (Viet Nam)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/morrison/index.html">Working Within The Framework Of Aboriginal Culture: Indigenous Initiatives
For Sustainable Development Through Landcare</A><BR>
<I>Joe Morrison and Mike Carmody (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><!--<A HREF="ch06/hunwick/index.html">-->Permaculture Training Centre, Uganda, And Sustainable Agricultural Support
for Orphans, Rwanda<!--</A>--><BR>
<I>John Hunwick (Uganda)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch06/sifunda/index.html">Permaculture Outreach Work With Impoverished Rural Communities</A><BR>
<I>Shirley Sifunda and Mike Masuku (Africa)</I></P></LI>
</UL>

<H3>Chapter Seven - Settlements Stream</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/cuming/index.html">East to West: Ecologically Sustainable Land Use And Settlement Patterns</A><BR>
<I>Peter Cuming (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/itonaga/index.html">Permaculture In Japan: Suitable For The Natural And Cultural Conditions
Of Japan</A><BR>
<I>Koji Itonaga, Kiyokazu Shidara, Moriyuki Konuma (Japan)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/stewart/index.html">Eco-village Networks, Activities In Denmark And Connections To Gaia
Trust</A><BR>
<I>Hamish Stewart (Denmark)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/lindegger/index.html">Crystal Waters And Other Eco-villages</A><BR>
<I>Max O. Lindegger (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/francis/index.html">From Aquarius Dreaming To Nineties Reality: Nimbin's Coming Of Age</A><BR>
<I>Robyn Francis (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/mond/index.html">Mirrunga Village</A><BR>
<I>Alex Mond (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/simpson/index.html">Urban Eco-villages Group In Melbourne</A><BR>
<I>Neil Simpson, Phil Gall, Sandy King, Vasko Drogriski (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/joseph/index.html">Crestone/Baca, Colorado</A><BR>
<I>Linda Joseph (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/talbott/index.html">Findhorn Community</A><BR>
<I>John Talbott (Scotland)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/bates/index.html">The Farm</A><BR>
<I>Albert Bates (USA)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/lopez/index.html">Beautiful San Miguel</A><BR>
<I>Marcela Andre Lopez (Mexico)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch07/kennedy/index.html">Eco-village (Re)Structuring</A><BR>
<I>Declan Kennedy (Germany)</I></P></LI>
</UL>

<H3>Chapter Eight - Technology Stream</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/darker/index.html">Renewable Energy Comes Of Age</A><BR>
<I>Christopher Darker (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/shannon/index.html">Water Wheel Engineering</A><BR>
<I>Ron Shannon (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/shannon2/index.html">Biogas</A><BR>
<I>Ron Shannon (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/marshall/index.html">Greywater Re-Use: Hardware, Health, Environment And The Law</A><BR>
<I>Glenn Marshall (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/dorn/index.html">The Permaculture House: Principles And Examples Of Organic Solar Architecture</A><BR>
<I>Gary Dorn (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/weisburd/index.html">The Eco-Vehicle: A Sustainable Personal Transportation System</A><BR>
<I>Richard S. J. Weisburd, Hiroshi Shimizu, Junji Harada, Kiyomoto Kawakami &amp;
June Ochiai (Japan)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/coleman/index.html">Solar Dryer</A><BR>
<I>David Coleman (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch08/anda/index.html">Greywater Reuse: Some Options For Western Australia</A><BR>
<I>Martin Anda, Dr. Goen Ho, Dr. Kuruvilla Mathew (Australia)</I></P></LI>
</UL>

<H3>Chapter Nine - Field Trip Reports</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch09/moore/index.html">Broadacre Field Trip</A><BR>
<I>Alanna Moore (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch09/payne/index.html">Denmark Field Trip</A><BR>
<I>Steve Payne (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch09/mcmahon/index.html">Heartlands Field Trip</A><BR>
<I>Leonie McMahon (Australia)</I></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch09/nuttall/index.html">Margaret River Field Trip</A><BR>
<I>Carolyn Nuttall (Australia)</I></P></LI>
</UL>

<H3>Chapter Ten - Convergence Proceedings</H3>

<UL>
<LI><P><A HREF="ch10/introduction.html">Introduction</A></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch10/themegroups.html">Day One - Theme Groups</A></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch10/climatezones.html">Day Two - Climatic Zones</A></P></LI>

<LI><P><A HREF="ch10/conclusion.html">Conclusion</A></P></LI>
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  PERMACULTURE DESIGN COURSE on the ISLAND of MOLOKA'I, HAWAI'I

Dates: November 29 to December 12, 1997.

Location: Hui Ho'olana, a 77 acre retreat center on Moloka'i, Hawai'i. 
This island was the first place Bill Mollison ever visited in the US.
It is a very rural island with many native hawaiians on homestead land, 
extensive ancient hawaiian fish ponds, and permaculture sites.

Description: The main purpose of the course is to impart permaculture 
principles and methodologies which can be applied anywhere in the world. 
This design course will cover the standard two week cerificate 
Permaculture Design Course curriculum. Through lecture, discussion, 
slide shows, observation, field trips, and hands-on experiential 
learning, permaculture design students will develop the practical skills 
and knowledge to design and implement sustainable systems in harmony 
with the natural world. There will be an emphasis on designing 
permaculture and agroforesty systems adapted to Hawai'i and other 
subtropical/tropical oceanic islands. This will range in scale from 
urban, backyard and small acreage to village and whole island design.

Instructors: Michael Pilarski has taught permaculture in the USA, 
Canada, Belize, Nepal, and Australia, and teaches herbal wildcrafting. 
He is the founder of Friends of the Trees in Washington state. Douglas 
Bullock is a horticulturalist with wide experience in Washington state, 
California, New Zealand, Australia, and Hawai'i. Bruce Hill was raised 
in Argentina and lived in other Latin American countries. He manages the 
Kanahena Farm Nursery in Maui. John Valenzuela is an educator and 
horticulturalist based on the Big Island of Hawai'i. He also has wide 
experience in California, from urban gardening to forestry. The 
instructors are avid and knowledgeable plantsmen with international 
experience.

Cost: US$950 including two weeks lodging, meals, and materials. Campers 
pay a reduced fee. Some partial scholarships are available
The course is limited to 25 participants.

Contact: Hu'i Ho'olana
         PO Box 99
         Kualapu'u, Hawai'i 96757 
         Tel. and Fax:(808)567-6430

     or: Friends of the Trees Society
         PO Box 4469 
         Bellingham, Washington 98227 
         Tel:(360)738-4972 Fax:(360)671-9668
         URL: www.geocities.com/rainforest/4663   


PS: Please send me any e-mail addresses or URLs that this event should 
be listed at. MAHALO

John Valenzuela Permaculture Services 
PO Box 1280 Pahoa, Hawai'i 96778
e-mail: johnvalenzuela@hotmail.com


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"Long Hungry Creek Farm is a self-sufficient, small farm that Jeff Poppen
tends with his partner. It is a certified biodynamic, organic farm with
five acres of vegetables for market, experimental orcahrds, extensive herb
and flower beds, grains, hay, cattle, and a fruit tree nursery." from the
intro to "Barefoot Farmer"

Ecological farmer Jeff Poppen, author of 'A Barefoot Farmer,' 'A Barefoot
Farmer II,' 'A Barefoot Farmer III,' and 'A Barefoot Farmer's Handbook of
Medicine,' requested a  court injunction last month to prevent Tri-Country
Electric Membership Corporation (TMC) from spraying  "Escort" and/or
"Arsenal" (herbicides) from a helicopter  along powerlines on his
Demeter-certified BD farm and along powerlines on adjoining properties in
Macon County, TN.

Jeff  goes to court on September 19th at 9:00 a.m. at Trousdale County
Courthouse in Hartsville, TN to ask for a permanent injunction against
aerial spraying, in effect asking TMC 'to show cause why a permanent
restaining order should not be issued.'

It is likely that TMC will counter-sue Jeff  because his "interference"
which has cost them time and money.

Jeff is not a rich man and he could use any possible support from the
sustainable agriculture community.

He needs:
1.  Any scientific proof that the aerial spraying of herbicides poses a
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Dates: November 29 to December 12, 1997.

Location: Hui Ho'olana, a 77 acre retreat center on Moloka'i, Hawai'i. 
This island was the first place Bill Mollison ever visited in the US.
It is a very rural island with many native hawaiians on homestead land, 
extensive ancient hawaiian fish ponds, and permaculture sites.

Description: The main purpose of the course is to impart permaculture 
principles and methodologies which can be applied anywhere in the world. 
This design course will cover the standard two week cerificate 
Permaculture Design Course curriculum. Through lecture, discussion, 
slide shows, observation, field trips, and hands-on experiential 
learning, permaculture design students will develop the practical skills 
and knowledge to design and implement sustainable systems in harmony 
with the natural world. There will be an emphasis on designing 
permaculture and agroforesty systems adapted to Hawai'i and other 
subtropical/tropical oceanic islands. This will range in scale from 
urban, backyard and small acreage to village and whole island design.

Instructors: Michael Pilarski has taught permaculture in the USA, 
Canada, Belize, Nepal, and Australia, and teaches herbal wildcrafting. 
He is the founder of Friends of the Trees in Washington state. Douglas 
Bullock is a horticulturalist with wide experience in Washington state, 
California, New Zealand, Australia, and Hawai'i. Bruce Hill was raised 
in Argentina and lived in other Latin American countries. He manages the 
Kanahena Farm Nursery in Maui. John Valenzuela is an educator and 
horticulturalist based on the Big Island of Hawai'i. He also has wide 
experience in California, from urban gardening to forestry. The 
instructors are avid and knowledgeable plantsmen with international 
experience.

Cost: US$950 including two weeks lodging, meals, and materials. Campers 
pay a reduced fee. Some partial scholarships are available
The course is limited to 25 participants.

Contact: Hu'i Ho'olana
         PO Box 99
         Kualapu'u, Hawai'i 96757 
         Tel. and Fax:(808)567-6430

     or: Friends of the Trees Society
         PO Box 4469 
         Bellingham, Washington 98227 
         Tel:(360)738-4972 Fax:(360)671-9668
         URL: www.geocities.com/rainforest/4663   


PS: Please send me any e-mail addresses or URLs that this event should 
be listed at. MAHALO

John Valenzuela Permaculture Services 
PO Box 1280 Pahoa, Hawai'i 96778
e-mail: johnvalenzuela@hotmail.com


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Welcome to the third issue of LABELS:  Linking Consumers and Producers.
Labeling products with respect to the sustainability of their production,
processing and transporting is a powerful tool for achieving more
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LABELS:  Linking Consumers and Producers - Vol. 1, Number 3    August 22,
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Table of Contents


    - GMO Labeling: Good For Business?
    - Dolphin Safe Label:  Safe From Compromise?
    - Mexico Looks To ISO 14000 Alternative
    - IFOAM To Launch Certification Logo
    - Textile Label Agreement Reached
    - Minnesota Promotes 'Minnesota Grown' Products
    - News Briefs
    - Events
    - Resources


GMO LABELING: GOOD FOR BUSINESS?
Labeling of genetically modified organisms (GMOs), now required in the
EU, may actually serve to expand the market presence of GMOs. The
European Parliament, on July 31, voted that genetically modified corn
and soybean seeds, feeds and foods containing GMOs  must be labeled with
the percentage of GMO content. If a food product  "may contain" a GMO,
it must be so labeled. Labeling of GMO-free food is  optional.  At press
time, the European Commission had not finalized either the compliance
date for GMO labeling nor information regarding  enforcement.

Consumer and environmental groups pushed for labeling as a way of
warning consumers of what the groups termed the unsafe or unproved
ramifications of GMOs in the food system. However, the GMO regulations
passed by the EU may serve to promote GMO use, rather than hinder it.
Food producers will most likely be only mildly inconvenienced by the
regulations - quite a contrast to the revolutionary effect GMO labeling
was anticipated to have on the food and biotechnology industry.

With the EU-wide labeling scheme in place, bans on GMO products underway
in France, Austria, Italy and Luxembourg will be nearly impossible to
uphold, thus improving market access.  The labeling scheme adopted by
the EU also laid to rest the possibility of segregating GMOs from
conventional products.  Segregating products was vehemently opposed by
U.S. exporters.  Segregating products, according to one study, would
have required fifteen separate facilities between farm and market,
making  exports to the EU cost prohibitive for corn and soybean
producers.

The EU instead adopted the broader labeling designation that products
which "may contain" GMOs must be labeled appropriately.  European
consumer groups cautioned that the "may contain" category could become a
catch-all for label-wary producers.  Indeed, nearly three-fifths of
processed foods contain genetically-modified soybeans, a figure likely
only to increase as U.S. growers increasingly plant genetically modified
soybean plants.  Because the "may contain" provision will have
widespread application, its stigmatizing value will likely be lost as
consumers grow familiar with its presence.

"Labeling the mutant tomato," THE ECONOMIST, August 9, 1997; "EU takes
further action on GMO labeling," FEEDSTUFFS, August 11, 1997.

Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc. and a coalition of organic food companies
reached a settlement with the State of Illinois August 15, allowing
dairy product manufacturers to state on product labels that the ice
cream, yogurt or other dairy product does not contain recombinant Bovine
Growth Hormone (rBGH). rBGH is used to promote increased milk production
in dairy cows.  Illinois, along with Hawaii, Nevada, and Oklahoma, have
laws prohibiting the use of so-called anti-hormone labels.  "Natural-
food firms win label rights," WASHINGTON TIMES, August 15,  1997.

The Eco-Labeling Campaign has changed its name to the Consumer's Choice
Council.  Office address:  1367 Connecticut Avenue, NW, suite 300;
Washington, DC  20036;  Ph: +01/202/785/1950; Fax: +01/202/785/8701
Our apologies for publishing the incorrect address in LABELS Volume 1,
Issue 1.


EVENTS
Forest Products Research Conference.  September 15-18, 1997. Madison,
Wisconsin. Co-sponsored by the National Planning Committee and the U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency.  The conference will focus on two
themes: Industrial ecology: contributions of forest products technology;
and the use of economic instruments to achieve sustainable forestry.
The  latter includes a panel on certification and ecolabels.  For more
information contact Diann Campbell, Conference Coordinator, USDA FS
Forest Products Laboratory, One Gifford Pinchot Drive, Madison
Wisconsin, 53705 USA. Ph: +01/608/231/9244; Fax: +01/608/231/9592;  E-
mail: /s=d.campbell/oul=s32a@mhs-fswa.attmail.com.

The 5th IFOAM International Conference on Trade in Organic Products: The
Future Agenda For Organic Trade.  September 24-27, 1997.  Oxford,
England.  For more information, contact IFOAM Organic Trade Conference,
Mouse Lane, Steyning, BN44 3DG England. Ph: +44/1903/812/200; Fax:  +44/
1903/879/052; E-mail: ifoamconf@natural products.co.uk.



RESOURCES
What's In A Name: Eco-Labeling In The Global Food System.  Paper
presented at the Joint Meetings of Agriculture, Food, and Human Values
Society and the Association for the Study of Food and Society, held in
Madison, WI, June 5-8, 1997.  By Elizabeth Barham, Department of Rural
Sociology, Cornell University.  Examines the emerging clashes between
corporations and eco-labeling proponents as reflective of a larger
struggle to moderate the effects of global market liberalization on
consumers, producers and environment.  Copies are available for free via
e-mail by contacting <meb6@cornell.edu>.  Hard copies available for
$7.50 each by writing  Elizabeth Barham, Department of Rural Sociology,
133 Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca NY, 14853 USA.

Green Business: Hope or Hoax? Toward an Authentic Strategy for Restoring
the Earth.  Edited by Christopher and Judith Plant. New Society
Publishers, 1997. 144 pages, paperback. US$9.95. Offers 'green business'
analysis and case studies to examine the limits and possibilities of
using business as a tool for restoring the earth. Available at
bookstores or by contacting New Society Publishers, PO Box 189, Gabriola
Island, BC, V0R 1X0 Canada. Ph: +01/250/247/9737; Fax: +01/250/247/7471;
E-mail: nsp@island.net



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ALLAN Savoury's address to the Permaculture Convergence is available as part
of the proceedings.

Doug -- thank you for the beautiful explication of your use of Savory's
model. Would you be willing to share this with Sandra Halprin? It is a
remarkably clear statement and might help a lot of people.

Barbara

P.S. I reread my comments to you on the watershed question and they sounded
awfully blunt. Sorry. There are many assumptions in what I wrote and they
weren't clearly spelled out. Your careful explanation here brought that to
my attention and I thank you for that.

Doug wrote:
>I have tried to give Barbara's query some thought.
>	I believe our habits govern most of our actions & consequences, 
>these habits can be developed in a conscientious manner. The holistic
>thought model is a guide to developing better habits.
>	Personally I have benefited the most by organizing my work.
>I have a "To do" list based on these guidelines summarized from
>Savory's book. I use a spreadsheet for each month. I carry forward
>all unfinished tasks to the next months spreadsheet. I have also added
>a D category for those things that have nothing to do with finances. I
>do not go into the details of marginal reaction, instead I use instinct to
>place the task into A, B, C, or D. There is a good deal of satisfaction
>when I cross out the tasks that are completed. I am also able to keep
>track of all the ideas of tasks that I should do, although I still miss out
>putting some of my ideas down because instead of keeping paper and
>pen handy, I try to remember a task idea until I get in front of the computer.
>
>Test for marginal reaction PER HOUR OF LABOR daily 
>       to prioritize work time. Allocate tasks:
>A. Tasks that would cause me to lose money if not completed that day.
>B. Tasks that would cause me to make less money if not completed that day.
>C. Tasks that would not make any difference financially if not completed
for months.
>Plan work tasks on a daily basis doing all A tasks before B tasks, 
>       and all B tasks before any C tasks. 
>This keeps you from doing what tends to strike you as important on any
given day. 
>Be wary of hidden desires that can distort because of deep emotional attachment
>
>	I believe that by organizing my work habits, I have been successful
>at holding despair at a low threshold. I couple this with the realization that
>the smaller whole I am working with should be the primary influence for my 
>emotional state of being. I do not exclude the larger whole from my awareness,
>I simply am not going to allow it to control my emotions. Misery seems to love
>company, but I feel that a person's bad attitude is their problem and I do not
>let it become mine. I feel that we only hurt ourselves when we get angry.
>
>Doug.
>
>
>
Barbara Ashley Phillilps
American West Institute for Conflict Resolution
P.O. Box 676
Halfway, Oregon 97834
(541) 742-6790 (Phone)  (541) 742-5175 (Fax)
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<p>Gloyd, L. K., and M. Wright.  1959. Odonata, p. 917-940.  In W. 
T. Edmondson (ed.) Freshwater biology (2nd ed.).  John Wiley & Sons, 
N.Y. 1,248 pp.

<p>Masteller, E.C. 1993. Odonata (Dragonflies and Damselflies) of Presque Isle
State PArk, Erie County, Pennsylvania.  J. PA Acad. Sci. 67(3): 137-140.

<p>Needham, J. G., and H. B. Heywood.  1929.  A handbook of the 
dragonflies of North America.  Thomas, Springfield, Illinois, 378 pp.

<p>Needham, J. G., and M. W. Westfall, Jr.  1955.  A manual of the 
dragonflies of North America (Anisoptera) including the Greater 
Antilles and the provinces of the Mexican border.  Univ. Calif. 
Press, Berkeley, 615 pp.

<p>Walker, E. M.  1953.  The Odonata of Canada and Alaska.  Part I. 
General, Part II. The Zygoptera-damselflies.  Vol I Univ. Toronto 
Press, Toronto, 292 pp.

<p>Walker, E. M.  1958. The Odonata of Canada and Alaska. 
Anisoptera.  Vol. 2.  Univ. Toronto Press, Toronto, 318 pp. 

<p>Walker, E. M., and P. S. Corbet.  1975. The Odonata of Canada and Alaska. 
Anisoptera, Libellulidae.  Vol. 3.  Univ. Toronto Press, Toronto, 307 pp.  

<p>Westfall, M. J., Jr.  1978.  Odonata, pp. 81-98.  In An 
introduction to the aquatic insects of North America (R. W. Merritt 
and K. W. Cummins, eds.). Kendall/Hunt, Dubuque, IA.

<p>White, H. B., and W. J. Morse.  1973.  Odonata (Dragonflies) of 
New Hampshire: an annotated list.  N. Hampshire Agric. Exp. Sta. 30: 
1-46.


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I have forwarded half this newsletter If you want the other half please 
let me know
There are lots of statistics which may be of value, from reparing 
enviromental damage to cost cutting in the services.

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                          GENERAL


CLOSELY RELATED GOOD PRICES IN A TRAVEL COST MODEL


McKean, Walsh, and Johnson incorporate prices for closely related goods,
such as money and time costs of on-site time, on-site purchases, and other
trip activities into a travel cost demand study.  They also estimate a
disequilibrium labor market model.  Their sample was mainly composed of
persons who did not substitute earned income for leisure time. The few
persons who had the capability to substitute time for money were excluded
from the sample.  Consumer surplus was estimated to be $69.00 per trip using
the expanded model.  A model using only the conventional travel cost
variables resulted in estimated surplus per trip of $45.00.


John R. McKean, Richard G. Walsh, and Donn M. Johnson "Closely Related Good
Prices in the Travel Cost Model"  American Journal of Agricultural
Economics; 78(3), August 1996, pages 640-46


DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE POLLUTION PREVENTION STRATEGY


The Department of Defense (DoD) is instituting pollution prevention by
adopting centralized hazardous materials management programs.  These
programs utilize strict management control of material and issue it only in
amounts necessary to accomplish the task at hand.  They involve centralized
inventory control; just-in-time distribution; reuse, alternative use,
recycling; and detailed tracking, reporting, and analysis of materials.

In the Navy 6 prototype ships reported total cost savings and avoidances
from reduced procurement and disposal costs of $688,000 in 1993.  Ten
prototype shore activities reported savings totaling $7.15 million.  The
Naval Air Station in Mayport, Florida redistributed over $315,000 worth of
hazardous material designated as excess and set for disposal, for total cost
avoidance savings over $1.2 million. Jacksonville Naval Aviation Depot,
Florida cut procurement costs by $2.3 million between 1991 and 1993.
Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, New Hampshire reduced its hazardous material
stock levels from 12,000 to 4,000 items.  Estimated total cost avoidance
savings for all regions in 1995 was $20 million.

The Air Force has also instituted centralized hazardous material management.
The Hazardous Material Pharmacy Program, like a commercial pharmacy,
features limited access, and distribution of material only to authorized
users in quantities needed to complete a task.  Hill Air Force Base in Utah
reduced hazardous materials purchases and waste disposal costs to obtain $20
million in cost avoidances over  two years.  Andrews Air Force Base,
Maryland reduced the Navy's waste stream by 50% and avoided $67,000 in costs
per year after investing $25,000.  Altus Air Force Base in Oklahoma has cut
the number of expired shelf life items by 80%, avoiding $60,000 in disposal
costs, and in 1994 Arnold Air Force Base in Tennessee saved $274,000 in
disposal costs.

The Army is using the Pollution Abatement and Prevention Analysis (PAPA)
Model, which employs a multi-objective analytical methodology to evaluate
the costs and benefits of pollution prevention opportunities against desired
goals.  To meet the Army's goals of maximizing cost savings and reducing
toxic releases and transfers by 50%, the model will indicate which
prevention opportunities to fund, and when to fund them.  For
maintenance activities, the Army issued a manual.  The Army plans to replace
soil berms at firing ranges with foamed-concrete "bullet-catching" barriers
to prevent metal contamination from spent bullets and aid lead and copper
recycling.  It is replacing pop-up targets operated by small hydraulic
motors which can leak fluids into the soil, with high-efficiency
nonhydraulic motors.  Tooele Army Depot reduced hazardous materials
purchases by over
22% and saved $193,000 in one year.

DoD is also cutting hazardous materials in new weapons.  The B-2 bomber,
produced by Northrup Grumman, incorporated 900 pollution prevention
processes and new materials, which cut emissions from 180,000 pounds 1989 to
less than 50 pounds in 1994, and reduced  hazardous waste disposal costs
from $3.7 million in 1990 to $800,000 in 1993.

DoD is also attempting to develop life-cycle cost models that can account
for environmental costs over the entire life of a weapon system.  It
surveyed more than 190 life-cycle cost models in studies available from the
Defense Technical Information Center (AD-A285431 "Environmental Management
Category Report,"--8/30/94;
AD-A285363 "Environmental Management Tool Screening,"--7/29/94; and
AD-A293148 "Evaluation of Environmental Management Cost-Estimating
Capabilities of Major Defense Acquisition Programs," 3/22/95).

In addition, the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) found that acid-based
solvents could replace chlorofluorocarbons (CFC) in many testing procedures.
DLA then eliminated requirements to use CFCs set forth in over 3,900 testing
procedure standards and specifications, eliminating more than 600,000 pounds
used each year by 800 firms.

The General Dynamics Land Systems Division (GDLS) successfully prevented
production schedule delays, reduced worker health risk, and disposal hazards
through pollution prevention.  During the 1980s, GDLS used a solvent-based
penetrant dye to inspect welds.  By replacing the penetrant-dye process with
a dry magnetic particle weld inspection technique that uses no TCA and
generates little hazardous waste, TCA consumption fell from 50,000 pounds in
1990 to 7,000 pounds in 1992.  The magnetic weld technique also minimized
the health risk to workers, and did not affect performance.  Because the
system saved $245 per vehicle, the equipment paid for itself in just over
two months.

This combination of regulation by direction and cumbersome budget processes
has led, in part, to an unnecessary growth in compliance expenditures.
Because of this growth, DoD, in cooperation with EPA, has begun "ENVVEST
which requires a detailed analysis of current expenditures to satisfy
environmental rules and of the environmental return on each investment.  The
evaluation also ranks projects that promise high rates of return on
investment, and attempts to eliminate needless bureaucratic procedures.

Cadmium is a toxic, hazardous material widely used in a plating process for
corrosion prevention and control.  It has been banned by Sweden, Germany,
and other European nations.  In the United States, airborne concentrations
allowable in the work place have been reduced by 95% since 1992.  One study
estimates that elimination of cadmium would save DoD $39 million per year.


"Dept. of Defense mission and pollution prevention strategy" Envirosense
Federal Facilities Initiative  Dept. of Defense Index   Last Updated:
12/13/96 http://es.inel.gov/oeca/fedfac/initiati/dodmissn.html


EBRD LOANS WITH ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS



The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) is involved with
several projects which may produce significant environmental benefits.

In Poland a loan to Owens-Illinois for the acquisition and modernization of
Huta Szkla Jaroslaw, the largest glass container manufacturer in Poland will
require the company to address environmental issues, including NOx emissions
from the gas-fired furnaces, industrial waste-water discharges, and
occupational health  and safety (OH&S) matters at a cost of ECU 23 million.
NOx emissions will be reduced by 60% and CO emissions will cease entirely.  

Another loan is being used to modernize the Huta Warszawa - Lucchini Steel
Plant in the Warsaw area.  Objectives include product quality enhancements,
production cost cuts, and compliance with environmental standards through
new technologies and improved management practices.  An environmental
management action plan and a monitoring system related to atmospheric
emissions, effluent discharges, groundwater quality, waste management and
OH&S have been developed. The contractor has guaranteed that all installed
equipment will meet EU environmental standards.  ECU 14.1 million is being
spent on environmental improvements.  Atmospheric emissions have been
reduced by 30%, while production capacity has doubled. 

In the Slovak Republic an EBRD loan and equity investment will finance the
modernization of an oil refinery and expansion of Slovnaft's retail gasoline
station network.  An ECU 318 million environmental mitigation plan will be
implemented by 2000 under which the company will comply with EU (and Slovak)
air emission standards by 1998, and with waste water discharge standards by
1999. The tank replacement program will increase the proportion of double
walled tanks from the present 58% to 92% by 2000. It is anticipated that all
the waste generated at Slovnaft (61,000 tpa at present) will be recycled by
2000. The program includes the construction of a heavy residue
desulphurization plant, which will cut SO2 emissions to 50% of the 1991
level with a sulphur removal efficiency above 98%. Total environment-related
investments will be ECU 190 million.  

An EBRD loan of US$110 million and equity investment of US$15 million to
Slovalco Aluminum Smelter in the Slovak Republic is being used to complete a
state-of-the-art energy efficient aluminum smelter which will meet
international environmental standards. Pollution of the Hron river will be
reduced. The loan will facilitate the closing of facilities which cannot
operate economically in accordance with modern environmental and health and
safety standards, including two aluminum smelters. A condition of the
investment is that immediate remediation measures be taken to contain
leaching and initiate a re-vegetation program on the red and brown mud waste
disposal sites. Emissions of fluoride, tars, NOx and dust will decrease
dramatically. Despite a doubling of capacity to 132,000 tpa,
Slovalco will consume only 10% more power than previously. The smelter will
cost ECU 209 million; the clean up and remediation more than ECU 9.4 million. 


"EBRD industrial projects with significant environmental benefits: some
examples"  http://www.ebrd.com/enviro/intro/e06.htm


RADON RESISTANCE


Since 1990, about one million homes have been built with radon-resistant
features.  EPA has been working to reduce public exposure to radon, a
colorless, odorless naturally-occurring radioactive gas which cause an
estimated 14,000 lung cancer deaths per year.  Techniques for building
radon-resistant homes include a 4 inch layer of gravel and plastic sheeting
beneath the foundation slab, and a PVC suction pipe from below the slab
through the roof.  At an average cost of $350-$500, building in
radon-resistance from the start is cost-effective compared to remediating a
radon problem later.  In addition, average energy costs savings are $65 per
year.         

EPA's Office of Air and Radiation is promoting radon-resistance in new homes
by fostering changes in building codes, encouraging home builders to
voluntarily use the techniques, and increasing consumer awareness and thus
demand for homes with radon-resistant features. In 1995, 160,000 out of one
million new single family homes in the U.S. were built with radon-resistant
features. For more information, contact Paulina Chen (202) 233-9031.


"One Million Radon-Resistant Homes" Pollution Prevention News April-May 1997
United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Pollution Prevention
and Toxics Washington, DC 20460 (EPA 742-N-97-003)
http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/ChemLibPPN/04_05_97.htm


REGULATIONS FOUND TO INCREASE FATALITIES


According to Ralph L. Keeney regulatory costs are paid by individuals, which
leaves them with less disposable income.  Since individuals on average use
additional income to make their lives safer and healthier, regulatory costs
lead to higher mortality risks and fatalities.  Based on data from the
National Longitudinal Mortality Study relating income to the risk of dying,
each $5 million of regulatory costs induces one fatality if costs are borne
by each citizen.  If costs are borne proportional to income, $11.5 million
in regulatory costs induces a fatality.  Cost-induced fatalities
disproportionately burden the poor and minorities, particularly blacks.


Ralph L. Keeney "Estimating Facilities Induced by the Economic Costs of
Regulations" Journal of Risk and Uncertainty; 14(1), January 1997, pages 5-23


STOCK PERFORMANCE OF ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE COMPANIES


A number of researchers have calculated the effect of environmental
performance on financial results (net income or stock price). The first
study, by James Hamilton of Duke University (1993) compared stock
performance to TRI data.  Since then, over 36 reports have been produced in
the U.S. alone.  Virtually none of the studies has reported any negative
correlation between environmental and financial performance. About a third
of the studies showed no statistically significant correlation between
environmental and financial performance; while two thirds of the researchers
found a positive correlation.         
In "Pollution is News: Media and Stock Market Reactions to TRI Data (1993),"
James Hamilton, found that the greater the disparity between prior reported
emissions and TRI results, the higher the stock price for the firm. Firms
with little or no discrepancy between prior available data and TRI data
actually outperformed the chemical industry indexes.  Firms were not solely
punished or rewarded based on level of emissions, but on level of disclosure
and magnitude.  In "Does It Pay to Be Green? (1994)" Stuart Hart and Gautam
Ahuja of the University of Michigan found that two years after emissions are
decreased on a per unit of production basis, various measures of financial
returns showed improvements, with the highest returns linked to firms with
the highest emission levels prior to reduction activity.  Mark White of the
McIntire School of Commerce, University of Virginia, writing about
"Corporate Environmental Performance and Shareholder Value" (1995)
determined that firms which signed the CERES (originally the Valdez)
Principles generate above-average risk-adjusted returns compared to a
portfolio of similar industry firms who have not signed the principles.  The
results of a multiple regression analysis of Fortune 500 firms between
1987-1992,  by Scott David Johnson were mixed: certain environmental issues
were apparently closely tied to financial performance, many others appeared
to have zero or negative correlation.  In "The Performance Impact of an
Environmental Screen," by Jack Robinson and Charles Collins (published by
Winslow Management/Eaton Vance in 1994) stock prices of two portfolios of
companies were compared over a 22-year period. The more environmentally
friendly portfolio outperformed the less responsible portfolio by 15.0% to
14.3%.  


John Ganzi, president Environment & Finance Enterprise, Chapel Hill, NC.
"Financial: Environmental Performance: Does Wall Street Care?"  Pollution
Prevention News April-May 1997 US Environmental Protection Agency Office of
Pollution Prevention & Toxics Washington, DC 20460 (EPA 742-N-97-003)
http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/ChemLibPPN/04_05_97.htm


TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING TURNS NITROGEN INTO A THREEFOLD MENACE


Scientists say synthetic fertilizers, cultivation of legumes, the raising of
cattle, and the burning of coal and oil have doubled the rate at which inert
atmospheric nitrogen is "fixed" (converted to forms that can be used by
living things).  As a result, environmental disruption caused by a planetary
overload of nitrogen is emerging as a new concern.

Too much nitrogen can warm the earth's atmosphere, destroy the stratospheric
ozone layer, and destroy habitat.  Effects include toxic algae blooms;
biological degradation in some coastal waters where many fish breed;
possible local extinction of some plant species, as well as animals and
microbes that depend on them; increasing atmospheric concentrations of
nitrous oxide; weakened ability of plants to remove heat trapping carbon
dioxide; and growing concentrations of nitric oxide, a major contributor to
smog and rain.  Some plant species that thrive on nitrogen have
driven out others resulting in a net loss of biological diversity.  When
these plants decompose their higher nitrogen
content leaks into ground water.

A panel of 9 experts in a peer-reviewed report published January in
Ecological Issues, produced by the Ecological Society of America, concluded
that the excess is causing serious and long-term environmental consequences
across many regions.

Scientists estimate that before humans began altering the nitrogen cycle,
natural processes fixed from 90 million to 150 million metric tons of
nitrogen a year.  Today, human activity adds 132 million to 153 million
metric tons, of which fertilizer manufacturing accounts for 80 million tons.
The burning of fossil fuels like coal and oil by power plants, factories,
and motor vehicles adds another 20 million tons.  An estimated 70 million
tons is released by burning forests and grasslands, draining wetlands and
clearing land for crops.  The buildup has been rapid.  Half of the
industrial nitrogen fertilizer used in human history has been applied since
1984, according to Dr. Peter M. Vitousek, an ecologist at Stanford
University who headed the panel.    In the Northeastern United States and
northern Europe 10 to 20 times more nitrogen than in pre-industrial times
may now
be carried to the coast by rivers.  Atmospheric concentrations of nitrous
oxide, a potent greenhouse gas and destroyer of ozone are increasing by 2%
to 3% a decade.  Presently, nitrous oxide contributes a quarter as much to
global warming as carbon dioxide.  The report says that the pace of nitrogen
buildup is likely to accelerate.

Dr. Robert W. Horwath of Cornell University, another member of the panel
noted that the Clean Water Act, for all its success in cleaning many of
America's  rivers, "hasn't taken a bit" out of the nitrogen problem because
nitrogen in runoff from farm fields and in the effluent of sewage treatment
plants is not a target.  The Clean Air Act has probably helped cut emissions
of heat-trapping nitrous oxide.


William K. Stevens  "Too Much of a Good Thing Makes Benign Nitrogen a Triple
Threat"  The New York Times  December 10, 1996  pages C1 and C12


BENEFITS OF TOXICS INFORMATION PROGRAM EXCEED COSTS


The Massachusetts Toxics Use Reduction ACT (TURA) was passed in 1989 to cut
toxic chemical use and byproduct generation.  TURA established six goals,
one of which was to cut toxic or hazardous byproduct generation by 50% from
1987 to 1997 through input substitution; product reformulation; production
unit redesign or modification; production unit modernization; improved
operation and maintenance; and recycling, reuse or extended use of toxics. 
TURA does not require facilities to meet specific goals.  It merely requires
600 facilities with 10 or more employees within 38 SIC codes to report on
usage and to undergo a planning process.

A study sponsored by the Massachusetts Toxics Use Reduction Institute
concluded that benefits exceed costs, even exclusive of human health and
ecological benefits.  The following table summarizes their results.

         MONETIZED COSTS AND BENEFITS OF TURA
       1990 - 1997 in millions of 1995 dollars

Category                                       Amount

COSTS
    - Form S preparation                         $9.9
    - TUR plan preparation                      $10.1
    - Form S filing fees                        $29.1
    - Other TURA fees (training & education)     $0.3
    - Capital investments                       $27.1

Total monetized TURA costs                      $76.5

BENEFITS
  - Savings in operating costs                  $88.2
  - Federal Grants                               $2.3
Total monetized TURA costs                      $90.5

Benefit/Cost Ratio                               1.18


Non-monetized costs discussed include the following

    Human health and ecological benefits from:
      - lower worker health & safety risks from chemical exposure
      - lower public health &safety risks from chemical exposure
      - reduced environmental exposure to toxic chemicals

    Higher revenue from process & product improvements
    Activities of TURA agencies in other programs
    Benefits to non-TURA firms
    Value of TURA data to public users

Costs were tallied largely by multiplying labor costs and the number of
hours worked, and then adding fees and capital costs derived from a survey.
Benefits were also derived from surveys of affected firms. 


Benefit-Cost Analysis of the Massachusetts Toxic Use Reduction Act  The
Massachusetts Toxics Use Reduction Institute, University of Massachusetts,
Lowell   Methods and Policy Report No. 15  One University Avenue  Lowell, MA
01854-2881  (508) 934-3297  E-Mail: beckerm@woods.uml.edu  Monica M. Becker,
Project Manager 
prepared by Randi Currier and Christopher E. Van Atten Abt Associates Inc.,
55 Wheeler Street  Cambridge, MA  02138  Contract S963490  Feb., 1997


                              WATER


ESTIMATING RESIDENTIAL WATER DEMAND


Dandy, Nguyen and Davies examine the impact of a pricing system on the
demand for water and related equity issues in metropolitan Adelaide,
Australia (population 1 million).  In the winter the amount of water stored
in reservoirs lost to evaporation is equal to the rainfall.  In the summer
evaporation losses exceed rainfall and the amount of water stored falls.

Typically, public water users pay a fixed fee plus a per unit charge above a
certain volume of usage.  The authors found that the marginal benefit of
consumption from an additional unit of water was constant for homeowners
because there is only so much water a household can use, even if the
household members are wasteful.  If there are no societal costs other than
the costs to deliver the water, then a uniform rate pricing system can be
used.  If the increase in water demand means that the storage and
distribution system must be expanded and capital improvements made, then the
case can be made for an increasing unit rate pricing system.

Prior to 1991 the annual fixed charge was a percentage of the property's
market value.  The volume of water supplied to a house was determined by
dividing the fixed charge by a fixed per unit cost, a house with a market
value of $100,000 pays a fixed fee of 0.168% of the value.  The $168 fixed
charge, divided by an $0.80 per unit cost, means the household can use 210
units of water before incurring additional costs.  Hence, properties with
high market values had no incentive to conserve.

In 1991/1992 a constant allowance of 136 units of water was allocated to
every household at a fixed charge of $116.  Above this volume there is a per
unit charge.  This change in water consumption was dramatic for high valued
property owners.  The authors use this data to model consumption and pricing
decisions.

The data sources were billing records of the water company, and a survey of
400 households.  Two regression equations were estimated, one for a static
model and one for a dynamic model.  The dynamic model had the quantity of
water consumed as a function of the quantity consumed in the previous year,
the annual allowance, a dummy variable of 1 if the quantity consumed was
greater than the allowance and 0 otherwise, a dummy variable for the year,
property value, a vector of prices, and a vector of household and location
variables.  It shows that when a household shifts from consuming less than
the allowance to more than the allowance that the changes in lagged
consumption, property value, and having a swimming pool are significant.  If
you are consuming below the allowance you change the pool water often.  The
per unit cost above the allowance is also significant.

The price elasticity of water for both models ranges from -0.63 to -0.77.
The authors comment that other studies have found the elasticity to be -0.20
- -0.50; Adelaide residents' demand is more elastic because 50% of the water
consumed is for pools and landscaping.  Consumption is more elastic in the
summer (-0.69 - -0.86) than in the winter (-0.29 - -0.45).

The authors conclude that when the allowance is lowered it is the high
income households that will pay more, not the low income households.  The
pricing system of a lower fixed allowance and a per unit charge above the
allowance is economically efficient and socially desirable.

Graeme Dandy, Tin Nguyen and Carolyn Davies  "Estimating Residential Water
Demand in the Presence of Free Allowances"  Land Economics February, 1997
Volume 73 Number 1  pages 125-139



CONNECTICUT METAL FINISHER FINED IN FEDERAL COURT


James J. Scalise of New Britain, Connecticut, owner and operator of Frey
Manufacturing Company, Inc., a metal finishing company, was sentenced to 6
months of home confinement, 3 years of probation, and a $15,000 fine.
Scalise pleaded guilty to 3 of 5 counts charging him with (1) discharging
wastewater containing excessive amounts of cyanide and acid into New
Britain's sewer system between November 1993 and April 1995; (2) operating
without a permit since at least November 1991; and (3) failing to report
analyses of discharges to the Connecticut Department of Environmental
Protection (DEP), and falsely representing to the DEP that there had been no
monitoring of Frey's discharges since it relocated to its current address in
1987.  The company had also been charged in 1993, 1994, and 1995 for
discharging wastewater, and was fined $25,000.


VALUE OF WHITEWATER RAFTING ON SOUTHERN RIVERS


J.M. Bowker, Donald English, B.K. Donald, and Jason A. Donovan examine per
trip consumer surplus associated with guided whitewater rafting on two
southern rivers.  First, household recreation demand functions are estimated
based on an individual travel cost model using truncated count data
regression methods and alternative price specifications.  The authors
estimate mean per trip consumer surplus between $89 and $286, depending on
modeling assumptions and river quality.  Magnitudes of these surpluses are
very dependent on assumptions about the opportunity cost of time.


J.M. Bowker, Donald English, B.K. Donald, and Jason A. Donovan "Toward a
Value for Guided Rafting on Southern Rivers" Journal of Agricultural and
Applied Economics; 28(2), December 1996, pages 423-32


                             ENERGY


VENDING MACHINE ENERGY SAVINGS


All 30,000 vending machines Asahi Soft Drinks Co. plans to install this
fiscal year will have energy saving functions that change temperature
according to sale conditions, and turn off cooling and fluorescent lights
after midnight.  The systems can reduce electricity costs by 10%.

 
Energy Conservation News,  Kevin Gainer, Editor "Saving with Soft Drink
Machines"   June, 1997  page 3   Business Communications Inc.  25 Van Zant
Street,  Norwalk  CT 06855  voice: (203) 853-4266  fax: (203) 853-0348
http://www.buscom.com


                               AIR


MORE FROM THE WAR ON SMOKING FRONT


     50 YEAR HABIT MAY COST SIX FIGURES


A cigarette pack now costs nearly $2.  Hubert B. Herring assumes that public
pressure for higher taxes will raise the price to $3 a pack.  Assuming one
pack is smoked a day implies 18,250 packs are smoked over 50 years for a
cost of nearly $55,000.  Smokers must also pay $700 a year more for $250,000
in insurance, or a total of $14,000 over twenty years.  A study by the
National Bureau of Economic Research has found that smokers earn 4% to 8%
less than nonsmokers because they are increasingly frowned upon in the
workplace, need frequent breaks to feed their habit, and are sick 5 or 6
more times a year than nonsmokers, so productivity is lower.  A person
earning the average of $22,000 a year from age 20 to 65 would make nearly $1
million.  Herring takes a conservative difference in earnings of 2%, or
$20,000 a year.  Cleaning bills for clothes, carpets, and draperies would
add $400 a year, or a total of $14,000.  Additional dental cleaning at $50 a
year amounts to $2,500 over 50 years.

The above costs add up to more than $105,000.  This does not include the
200,000 fires a year started by smoking materials, and the $50 billion a
year in public health costs associated with smoking.  However, the estimates
also do not take into account lower food consumption by smokers.  Herrings
calculations are summarized below


Item            Cost over
                 50 years

Cigarettes        $55,000
Life Insurance    $14,000
Earnings          $20,000
Cleaning          $14,000
Dental             $2,500

TOTAL            $105,500


Hubert B. Herring  Where There's Smoke, There's Outlay: A 50-Year Habit May
Cost Six Figures"  The New York Times  April 27, 1997 Section 3


     CIGARETTE TAXES


Congress recently passed a cigarette tax increase.  Advocates are also
lobbying for increases in 19 states, and hope to have campaigns in all 50 by
next year.  They would like to raise taxes to a uniform $2 a pack nationwide
from the current range of 2.5 cents in Virginia to 82.5 cents in Washington
State.  Coupled with federal taxes, the average cost of a pack would rise to
$4.23 from $1.80.

Advocates and opponents say the current effort is more formidable than
previous attempts.  Raising taxes is the number one anti-tobacco strategy of
the American Cancer Society, which is spending $10 million for this effort.
The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation in Princeton, New Jersey has committed
$100 million to the fight.  

An internal memorandum from the Phillip Morris Companies written in 1981 has
recently surfaced.  It said that the company should "take seriously" a
statement by the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge, Mass
that higher Federal excise taxes could be used to reduce smoking by young
people.  "It is clear that price has a pronounced effect on the smoking
prevalence of teen-agers" it said, adding that the bureau's estimate that a 10%
increase in cigarette prices would lead to a 12% decline in the number of
teen-agers taking up the habit was "of greatest significance to the company.


Adam Clymer  "Panel Is Urged to Back a Higher Cigarette Tax"  The New York
Times  April 20, 1997  page 21 David Cay Johnston "Anti-Tobacco Groups Push
for Higher Cigarette Taxes"  The New York Times  April 3, 1997


     PROPOSED SETTLEMENT--STOCK EFFECT


After a multi-billion dollar proposed settlement to resolve lawsuits against
tobacco companies was announced Gary D. Black, an analyst for Sanford C.
Bernstein & Company advised investors to hold onto their tobacco stocks,
"and take easy money when a deal is announced".  He predicted that shares of
Phillip Morris would soar to $50 and shares of RJR Nabisco to $40 after a
settlement is disclosed.  Phillip Morris shares closed at $42.125 on April
22, 1997 and RJR shares were at $31.875.  If a settlement does give the
companies full immunity, many analysts predict their shares will double or
triple in value.  If the effort fails, Martin Feldman, a tobacco analyst for
Smith Barney,
predicted that shares could go lower than they are now.


Glenn Collins "Market Place: Rewards uncertain, but anxiety is sure in
tobacco stocks now"  The New York Times  April 23, 1997


ON THE LIGHTER SIDE

The definition of "waste": a busload of economists plunging over a precipice
with three of the seats unoccupied.

A woman hears from her doctor that she has only half a year to live. The
doctor advises her to marry an economist and to live in South Dakota. The
woman asks: will this cure my illness? Answer of the doctor: No, but the
half year will seem pretty long.

Jokes for Economists on the Internet http://netec.wustl.edu/JokEc.html


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We believe that it is impossible to live sustainably while 
enmeshed in the consumer culture, but humanly difficult to live 
independently in isolation.  Therefore, we envision a locally self- 
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where one can get one's livelihood and happiness without causing 
environmental degradation.  We intend to build such a town. 
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1000 residents.  We will be housed in a variety of living 
arrangements, eat a variety of foods, and work on varied projects.  It 
will be a society flexible enough to include egalitarian communities, 
cohousing, individual households, and hermits.  But while we may 
have different approaches to some issues, the common desire for 
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economic independence, we will not be sequestered from 
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Sandhill is an egalitarian, income-sharing community that has been living and 
farming in Northeast Missouri since 1973.  We are hoping to buy land within a 
few miles of Sandhill and move onto it by Spring of 1997.  Besides the cooperative 
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Reply-To: fiona.scott@smtpgwy.agric.nsw.gov.au
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     Please reply to Genevieve directly at carrutg@agric.nsw.com.au, I have 
     posted her query on her behalf.
     
     Fiona
     ---------------------------------------------
     My name is Genevieve Carruthers, and I work for the NSW Department of 
     Agriculture in Australia. My background is in ecology (with a special 
     interest in sustainable agriculture and entomology/soil fauna). I have 
     previously worked for the Federal EPA (conducting risk assessment for 
     ag. and vet chemicals prior to their release), various universities, 
     and the Australian Plague Locust Commission.
     
     I have recently been employed to work with farmers and other clients 
     of NSW Ag. interested in adopting a systems approach to farming. 
     Obviously, organic farmers and similar are already some way down this 
     road.
     
     I am interested in case studies or examples of agricultural 
     enterprises that have adopted environmental management systems 
     approaches to their production. ISO 14000, being the internationally 
     recognised systems approach is but one of several systems that can be 
     used (others being the EU's EMAS scheme, the British BS 7750 etc.). So 
     far in Australia, only one farmer, a cotton grower, has followed the 
     ISO 14000 path to full certification, at an approximate cost of 
     $40-60,000.
     
     Can anyone provide me with information, or case studies? I'd be most 
     grateful, and am happy to pass on information from Australia, as I 
     find it, to interested parties.
     
     Genevieve Carruthers
     
     carrutg@agric.nsw.com.au


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Reply-To: Conference "chrm.general" <chrm-general@igc.apc.org>
From: jwright@telusplanet.net
Hi Bruce,
    I spent a few minutes on the www trying to 
find some answers (not many) to your questions. 
    I don't know how you feel about biocontrol
but you might find the Cornell U website
on biocontrol interesting w/respect to 
stable flies. 

http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/ent/biocontrol/parasitoids/mraptor.html

This is an interesting site for anyone with
a use for biocontrol, and in any case often
provides useful biological and ecological
information about pest species and their
parasites. 

Also, the Lethbridge, Alberta research station of 
Agriculture Canada is looking at integrated
management of stable flies. They seem to
have a good knowledge of the life cycle and 
biology of the stable fly.  I didn't find
a contact person but I'm sure that someone 
there could give you the basic information
or point you in the right direction.  Their
URL is:   

http://aceis.agr.ca/research/directory96/lethbrie.html

Finally, for anyone interested in entomology, or
"problem" insects, it might be worth subscribing
to the entomo-l listserv, as follows:

Send message to  LISTSERV@UOGUELPH.CA  and put the
words SUBSCRIBE ENTOMO-L  in the text. 

Hope you find something of interest

Jim



Greetings
Our " Livestock Health Encyclopedia"(Springer Publishing Co.,1951) says:
	"The stable fly  breeds in wet and decaying vegetable matter, especially straw.  Up to 50 eggs are deposited there in loose masses.  The female may lay 500 eggs in a period of 1 month.
	Stableflies are intermediate hosts of the small-mouthed stomach worm of equines, a species of the Large stomach worm.
	Life history: The eggs hatch in 1 to 3 days.  The maggots feed in wet straw and reach maturity in 1 week or more; then they crawl to a moist area and pupate.  The pupae change to the adults in 5 to 20 days.  After 2 or 3 days of feeding, the young stable
flies are ready to reproduce.  Breeding is stopped by cold weather, when the maggots and pupae hibernate.  The adults are able to fly as far as 52 miles."

We've been having alot of trouble with stable flies this summer in some paddocks next to some swampy areas (wetlands?).They are unaffected by our feeding of DE which has done a nice job  controlling both horn and face flies.I assume they're not breeding i
n manure at all.We have not been able to trap them either.When the cows come back to the dairy,the flies leave them and stay in the pasture so walk-thru traps would not be effective.We've had to resort to pour on insecticide again this season.We'd like so
me more help with this also.Most of the information we've seen on fly parasites has said one needs feedlot-like concentrations for satisfactory results. Perhaps they would be helpful in your situation.

Rick Feete
Galax,VA USA
cff@tcia.net

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>
> I have just returned from time in Western Australia, where I came across a
> new (to me) problem.  The particular fly is known as Stomoxys calcitrans,
> commonly called Stable fly, and is the size of a conventional bush fly, but
> bites like a bot fly or worse.  The people concerned live on the coastal
> plain south of Perth, in a formerly very swampy area - which can be very
> wet still in late winter, most years.  As the weather warms up in the
> spring ie now, these flies rapidly increase.  They are murder on horses,
> and dramatically drop livestock performance.
> Located next to their property is a sheep feedlot, where 70,000 to 100,000
> sheep come in, are processed and then shipped off to the middle east for
> slaughter, many times per year.  It seems - not surprisingly - there is a
>

>I have just returned from time in Western Australia, where I came across a
>new (to me) problem.  The particular fly is known as Stomoxys calcitrans,
>commonly called Stable fly, and is the size of a conventional bush fly, but
>bites like a bot fly or worse.  The people concerned live on the coastal
>plain south of Perth, in a formerly very swampy area - which can be very
>wet still in late winter, most years.  As the weather warms up in the
>spring ie now, these flies rapidly increase.  They are murder on horses,
>and dramatically drop livestock performance.
>
>Located next to their property is a sheep feedlot, where 70,000 to 100,000
>sheep come in, are processed and then shipped off to the middle east for
>slaughter, many times per year.  It seems - not surprisingly - there is a
>relationship between the advent of the feedlot and the rise in the
>incidence and severity of my people's problem, although the problem has
>long existed at a low level.
>
>Does anyone know -
>
>i)  Its life cycle
>
>ii) Where do they spend the daylight hours and evening hours?
>
>They have noted that the problem is less severe in the evening.
>
>Thanks
>
>Bruce Ward
>
>
>
>
>Bruce Ward
>PO Box 984
>Inverell   NSW   2360
>AUSTRALIA
>
>NOTE:
>NEW PHONE + FAX NUMBERS - EFFECTIVE FROM AUGUST 18, 1997
>
>Ph (02) 6721 1105 - from outside Australia dial +61 2 6721 1105
>Fx (02) 6721 1094 - from outside Australia dial +61 2 6721 1094     
>
>
>



Jim Wright
Box 129
Lougheed Alberta Canada
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403 386-2479

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Mmbers I have three different copies of ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE VALUATION
AND COST BENEFIT NEWS I will keep them for 3 weeks if anyone is interested

Vic.
>
>From: Kenneth Acks <dva.ka@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
>
>                  ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE VALUATION
>                               AND
>                        COST BENEFIT NEWS
>
>VOLUME IV # 7                                          JULY, 1997 
>
>                             CONTENTS
>
>      GENERAL
>
>THE VALUE OF THE WORLD'S ECOSYSTEMS
>NEW TOOLS FOR TAXING POLLUTERS
>GOING PUBLIC ON POLLUTERS IN INDONESIA
>BENEFITS AND COSTS OF ECO-INDUSTRIAL PARKS
>
>      WATER
>
>WELFARE EFFECTS OF TOXIC FISH
>
>      LAND
>
>$50 MILLION TO BUY FLORIDA LAND SOLD IN SCAM
>USDA ENVIRONMENTAL INCENTIVES TO YIELD BENEFITS OF $439 MILLION	
>
>      ENERGY
>
>SAFER, MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT HALOGEN LAMP
>
>
>                             GENERAL
>
>
>THE VALUE OF THE WORLD'S ECOSYSTEMS 
>
>
>In "The Value of the World's Ecosystem Services and Natural Capital" an
>interdisciplinary international team estimated that the current economic
>value of 17 "ecosystem services" for 16 "biomes" conservatively ranged from
>US$16 trillion to US$54 trillion per year, with a most likely estimate of
>US$33 trillion.  The article, which appeared in the May 15th issue of Nature
>Magazine, attracted considerable attention, including a page 1 summary in
>the Science section of the New York Times and a special internet list. 
>
>The estimated average of US$33 trillion is 1.8 times the current global GNP.
>One way to look at this comparison is that if one were to try to replace the
>services of ecosystems at the current margin, one would need to increase
>global GNP by at least US$33 trillion, partly to cover services already
>captured in existing GNP, and partly to cover services that are not
>currently captured in GNP.  Most of the value lies outside the market.  As
>natural capital and ecosystem services become more stressed and more
>'scarce' in the future, the authors expect their value to increase. 

>"Going Public on Polluters in Indonesia"  Pollution Prevention News
>April-May 1997 United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of
>Pollution Prevention and Toxics Washington, DC 20460 (EPA 742-N-97-003)
>http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/ChemLibPPN/04_05_97.htm
>
>
>Kenneth Acks, Editor and Publisher
>
>ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE VALUATION & COST BENEFIT NEWS (EDV&CBN)
>
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>

Regards,
          Vic
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From: Reid Lifset <reid.lifset@yale.edu>
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Dear members of the Ag-impact list,

	I participate (well, actually, lurk) in this list because I teach a class
on the environmental impacts of agriculture in our industrial environmental
management program at Yale.  However, I am also the editor of the Journal
of Industrial Ecology.

	The Journal recently published an article about Patagonia's efforts to
move all of its apparel to organic cotton and the changes that it had to
make in its relationship with its suppliers to achieve this.  If you are
interested, the article is available in full text (PDF) at the journal's
web site: http://mitpress.mit.edu/JIE.

Yours truly,
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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:25:55 -0500
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To: sanet-mg@ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: Fw: Dung Beetles for manure control



----------
> > Subject: Dung Beetles for manure control
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 12:37 PM
> > ----------
> > > 
> >  I have been researching Dung Beetles for ecological based manure
control
> >  to prevent non-point pollution.   Dung beetles can dispose of 1ton of
manure/year over 2.5 acres 
>>   resulting  in:
> >  Soil fertility is enhanced 
> >  Pollution reduced 
> >  Moisture is return to land
> >  Promotes earthworm production
> >  and a potential new source of drugs 
> > 
> >  Generally the beetle buries the manure within 36 hours thus preventing
> >  fly problems, disposal problems and nonpoint pollution. And I am
>>  wondering  whether the drug  industry would find merit it exploring
raising Dung
>>   Beetles as new source  of  nature-based pharaceuticals. With the
numerous current uses of 
>>   Cyclosporin from heart  transplants to Aids 
> > (a drug made from a  a mold derived from dung beetles).
>>   I would think this has merit???
> > 
> > Does any one do research in this area ???
> > or Who can I contact ??? ANY thoughts???
> > How do I get support on promoting this ecological based waste disposal
> > solution??
> > I would like those persons or institutions that are interested in
promote
> > sustainable solutions to help petition the USDA to keep this facility
> > open...Funding could be cut in the next session of Congress.
> > 
> > 
> > Currently funding for research by the USDA is being cut, and the only 
> > Quarantine facility in US ( down in Texas) is threathen with closing
and
> > chief Scientist Truman  Fincher will be retiring if this facility
> > closes.
> > 
> > I would like to see the medical community support the continuing the
> > research by USDA or APHIS (ARS) regarding Dung Beetles or have a white
knight
> > (Drug manufacter)  come to rescue, estimated funding is less than $ 1.5
>>  for the next 5 years  to keep the facility open....
> > 
> > I hope this is proper application of this Listserve...
> >  .
> > 
> > >--=============
> > > BACKGROUND
> >  Cyclosporin synthetase (cysyn) is a multifunctional enzyme responsible
> >for  the biosynthesis of cyclosporins from their precursor amino acids.
It has
> > firstly been isolated from the fungusTolypocladium niveum in 1986. 
> >
>
http://www.chem.tu-berlin.de/Institute/Biochemie_und_Molekulare_Biologie/Arb

                                                                 
/eitskreise/AK_Zocher/mirko/cyclosp.htm
====================>

> > http://www.news.cornell.edu/science/Sept96/cyclosporine.hrs.html
> > Knowing the true family history of T. inflatum/C. subsessilis will help
> > target the search for other nature-based pharmaceuticals, according to
> > Thomas Eisner, the Cornell biologist whose Institute for Research in
> > Chemical Ecology (CIRCE) will send "chemical prospecting" teams into
the
> > world's first temperate zone biodiversity preserve, less than a mile
from
> > the woods where students found the fungal fruiting bodies. One close
> > relative of C. subsessilis already is known to Chinese athletes as the
> > performance-enhancing "caterpillar fungus."
> > 
> > "There are so many molds that we don't know the life cycle of. All the
> > cyclosporin in the world -- for hundreds of thousands of transplant
> > patients who need anti-rejection drugs -- has been made from
> Tolypocladium
> > inflatum cultures without that mold ever reaching the sexual state,"
said
> > Kathie T. Hodge, the Cornell graduate student of systematic mycology
who
> > identified the New York fungus for what it is. "T. inflatum is commonly
> > found in soils, but it does not make the sexual state without very
>>  special  conditions -- until it is on its favorite host -- which seems
to be the
> > dung beetle."
> > ------
> > 
> > The question I have how important is it or what might be the
implications
> > of have Tolypocladium inflatum cultures reaching the sexual state????
> > 
> > I
> > 
> > > David B. Sullivan, Public Relations Director 
> > > Wisconsin Bison Producers Association
> > > Telephone (608) -723-6213 
> > > email: Buffalob@mhtc.net 
> > > email : Buffalo-Falls@juno.com Text only
> > > 
> > > Mailing address:
> > > Buffalo Falls Ranch, LLC 
> > > 7744 Irish Hollow Road 
> > > Potosi, Wi 53820 
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Subject: Dung Beetles for manure control<br>&gt; &gt; Date: Wednesday, =
September 10, 1997 12:37 PM<br>&gt; &gt; ----------<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;I have been researching Dung Beetles for ecological =
based manure control<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;to prevent non-point pollution. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;Dung beetles can dispose of 1ton of manure/year over 2.5 =
acres <br>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;resulting &nbsp;in:<br>&gt; &gt; =
<b>&nbsp;Soil fertility is enhanced <br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;Pollution =
reduced <br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;Moisture is return to land<br>&gt; &gt; =
&nbsp;Promotes earthworm production<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;and a potential =
new source of drugs </b><br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;Generally the =
beetle buries the manure within 36 hours thus preventing<br>&gt; &gt; =
&nbsp;fly problems, disposal problems and nonpoint pollution. And I =
am<br>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;wondering &nbsp;whether the drug &nbsp;industry =
would find merit it exploring raising Dung<br>&gt;&gt; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;Beetles as new source &nbsp;of &nbsp;nature-based =
pharaceuticals. With the numerous current uses of <br>&gt;&gt; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;Cyclosporin from heart &nbsp;transplants to Aids <br>&gt; =
&gt; (a drug made from a &nbsp;a mold derived from dung =
beetles).<br>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;I would think this has =
merit???<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Does any one do research in this =
area ???<br>&gt; &gt; or Who can I contact ??? ANY thoughts???<br>&gt; =
&gt; How do I get support on promoting this ecological based waste =
disposal<br>&gt; &gt; solution??<br>&gt; &gt; I would like those persons =
or institutions that are interested in promote<br>&gt; &gt; sustainable =
solutions to help petition the USDA to keep this facility<br>&gt; &gt; =
open...Funding could be cut in the next session of Congress.<br>&gt; =
&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Currently funding for research by the =
USDA is being cut, and the only <br>&gt; &gt; Quarantine facility in US =
( down in Texas) is threathen with closing and<br>&gt; &gt; chief =
Scientist Truman &nbsp;Fincher will be retiring if this facility<br>&gt; =
&gt; closes.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; I would like to see the medical =
community support the continuing the<br>&gt; &gt; research by USDA or =
APHIS (ARS) regarding Dung Beetles or have a white knight<br>&gt; &gt; =
(Drug manufacter) &nbsp;come to rescue, estimated funding is less than $ =
1.5<br>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;for the next 5 years &nbsp;to keep the facility =
open....<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; I hope this is proper application of =
this Listserve...<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; =
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BACKGROUND<br>&gt; &gt; &nbsp;Cyclosporin synthetase (cysyn) is a =
multifunctional enzyme responsible<br>&gt; &gt;for &nbsp;the =
biosynthesis of cyclosporins from their precursor amino acids. It =
has<br>&gt; &gt; firstly been isolated from the fungusTolypocladium =
niveum in 1986. <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <font =
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ine.hrs.html</u><font color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; &gt; Knowing the true =
family history of T. inflatum/C. subsessilis will help<br>&gt; &gt; =
target the search for other nature-based pharmaceuticals, according =
to<br>&gt; &gt; Thomas Eisner, the Cornell biologist whose Institute for =
Research in<br>&gt; &gt; Chemical Ecology (CIRCE) will send =
&quot;chemical prospecting&quot; teams into the<br>&gt; &gt; world's =
first temperate zone biodiversity preserve, less than a mile =
from<br>&gt; &gt; the woods where students found the fungal fruiting =
bodies. One close<br>&gt; &gt; relative of C. subsessilis already is =
known to Chinese athletes as the<br>&gt; &gt; performance-enhancing =
&quot;caterpillar fungus.&quot;<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &quot;There =
are so many molds that we don't know the life cycle of. All the<br>&gt; =
&gt; cyclosporin in the world -- for hundreds of thousands of =
transplant<br>&gt; &gt; patients who need anti-rejection drugs -- has =
been made from<br>&gt; Tolypocladium<br>&gt; &gt; inflatum cultures =
without that mold ever reaching the sexual state,&quot; said<br>&gt; =
&gt; Kathie T. Hodge, the Cornell graduate student of systematic =
mycology who<br>&gt; &gt; identified the New York fungus for what it is. =
&quot;T. inflatum is commonly<br>&gt; &gt; found in soils, but it does =
not make the sexual state without very<br>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;special =
&nbsp;conditions -- until it is on its favorite host -- which seems to =
be the<br>&gt; &gt; dung beetle.&quot;<br>&gt; &gt; ------<br>&gt; &gt; =
<br>&gt; &gt; The question I have how important is it or what might be =
the implications<br>&gt; &gt; of have Tolypocladium inflatum cultures =
reaching the sexual state????<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; I<br>&gt; &gt; =
<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; David B. Sullivan, Public Relations Director <br>&gt; =
&gt; &gt; Wisconsin Bison Producers Association<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Telephone (608) -723-6213 <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; email: <font =
color=3D"#FF0000"><u>Buffalob@mhtc.net</u><font color=3D"#000000"> =
<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; email : <font =
color=3D"#FF0000"><u>Buffalo-Falls@juno.com</u><font color=3D"#000000"> =
Text only<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mailing address:<br>&gt; =
&gt; &gt; Buffalo Falls Ranch, LLC <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; 7744 Irish Hollow =
Road <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Potosi, Wi 53820 <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
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From: Craig Cramer <cdcramer@clarityconnect.com>
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Subject: Organic farming websites

Greetings:

I just uploaded a new page of links to Organic Farming, Marketing, and
Certification Resources at our Sustainable Farming Connection website.  You
can find the page at:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/farming-connection/links/organic.htm

I know that I've probably missed a few sites.  So if your site isn't listed
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already too long for a single menu.  But I'll wait to split it up until I
have more links to work in.

If you haven't visited Sustainable Farming Connection for awhile, be sure
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Craig Cramer
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Hi there Vic.
Even though we are in the wilds of Northern Australia (Darwin suburban), we
still get your messages and look forward to finding out what's happening. 

I am very interested in the wirkshop on new homeopathics. Naturally it will
be a little difficult for me to get there. I wonder if there is any
information going to be disseminated about it. If so I would really like to
get whatever information is available.
Give my regards to all at PAWA

Thanks
Mike Mattys


At 03:16 PM 9/2/97 WST, you wrote:
>Learn how to Clear Negative Effects!
>
>Alexander Freis-Terch from Austria,  is offering a workshop which will
teach us a simple method of reversing negative effects in many areas, eg.
healing the human body, water and soils.  This modality is called “New
Homoeopathy” and has only recently been developed in Austria.  It can be
practised by those with no previous healing experienced and will add to the
knowledge of professional healers.
>
>Alexander recently demonstrated a very simple method of reversing negative
effects of the homoeopathic imprint of pesticide and other chemicals
carried in water. This may offer a simple method of removing the
inappropriate information carried in our water systems as highlighted by
Callum Coates in his recent workshop.  
>
>Workshops:
>
>Sunday, 14th Sept:  Jo Darbyshire’s, 1800 Wanneroo Road, Neerabup.
>10 am. - 3pm.  Please bring own lunch, teas and coffee supplied.  Cost
$25. All welcome.
>
>Monday, 15th Sept:  Devryn’s Health Clinic, 12 Verticordia Place, Greenwood.
>7pm - 10pm.  Cost $25.  Appropriate for healing practitioners and their
students.
>
>Wednesday, 10th Sept:  Lyn Hatswill, 17 Lutey Avenue, Daglish - 7.30pm -
10pm.  Please park only in Troy Tce.  Cost $25.  
>Workshop for those practising Reflexology and Metamorphosis and their
students.  This workshop does not relate specifically to “New Homoeopathics”.
>
>Contact:
>Pat Dare, 8 Palana Road, City Beach, 6015
>Tel: 9385 9954, or leave a message 9385 7228
>Fax: 9385 7228
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>
>
>
>
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From: fiona.scott@smtpgwy.agric.nsw.gov.au
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My apologies, I didn't check the email Genevieve asked me to forward closely 
enough, her email address should be

carrutg@agric.nsw.gov.au

_____________________________ Forward Header __________________________________

My name is Genevieve Carruthers, and I work for the NSW Department of 
Agriculture in Australia. I have recently been employed to work with farmers and
other clients of NSW Ag. interested in adopting a systems approach to farming. 
Obviously, organic farmers and similar are already some way down this road.

I am interested in case studies or examples of agricultural enterprises that 
have adopted environmental management systems approaches to their production. 
ISO 14000, being the internationally recognised systems approach is but one of 
several systems that can be used (others being the EU's EMAS scheme, the British
BS 7750 etc.). So far in Australia, only one farmer, a cotton grower, has 
followed the ISO 14000 path to full certification, at an approximate cost of 
$40-60,000.

Can anyone provide me with information, or case studies? I'd be most grateful, 
and am happy to pass on information from Australia, as I find it, to interested 
parties.

Genevieve Carruthers

carrutg@agric.nsw.gov.au



     


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>From: Mike Mattys <mmattys@topend.com.au>
>To: Permaculture WA <perma@eepo.com.au>
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Hi Mike great to hear from you.  Did you resubscribe.
I lost you for a while.( you can resubscribe now from the PAWA web page)

>Hi there Vic.
>Even though we are in the wilds of Northern Australia (Darwin suburban), we
>still get your messages and look forward to finding out what's happening. 
>
>I am very interested in the wirkshop on new homeopathics. Naturally it will
>be a little difficult for me to get there. I wonder if there is any
>information going to be disseminated about it. If so I would really like to
>get whatever information is available.
>Give my regards to all at PAWA.

 Ross Mars and other Permies organised a workshop with Callum Coats on 
Living Energy (water) and the book of the same name written by Callum.
This was the translated works of Viktor Schauberger. Viktor had built a 
devise which recreated mountain spring water. It was reported to have 
been very succesful so much so that people claimed to have ben cured 
of cancer. Whereupon the Austrian Government is reported to have destroyed
 the device as you are not allowed to cure cancer without a MD after your 
name.

>Thanks
>Mike Mattys
>
>
>At 03:16 PM 9/2/97 WST, you wrote:
>>Learn how to Clear Negative Effects!
>>
>>Alexander Freis-Terch from Austria,  is offering a workshop which will
>teach us a simple method of reversing negative effects in many areas, eg.
>healing the human body, water and soils.  This modality is called “New
>Homoeopathy” and has only recently been developed in Austria.  It can be
>practised by those with no previous healing experienced and will add to the
>knowledge of professional healers.
>>
>>Alexander recently demonstrated a very simple method of reversing negative
>effects of the homoeopathic imprint of pesticide and other chemicals
>carried in water. This may offer a simple method of removing the
>inappropriate information carried in our water systems as highlighted by
>Callum Coates in his recent workshop.  
>Elder Mattys
>Australia Adelaide Mission 
>Darwin
>mmattys@topend.com.au

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          Vic
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Hi permaculturalists,

I have lurked for a few months - am really interested in permaculture, but need 
to brush up my technical skills.  I was hoping for some
advice on which correspondence Permaculture Design courses were available and 
recommended?

I would prefer something based on the East Coast, but since it is 
correspondence, I suppose it doesn't make TOO much
difference.

BTW, I have a 100 acre deer farm in Michelago, just south of Canberra.  We have 
a cold? temperate climate and a low rainfall.
I desparately want to make something of our place as an example for others in 
the area, because the Monaro district
has a reputation for being abused and very clapped-out (the farm-land that is).

Hope someone can help.

Regards

Cathy Morison
Michelago
Australia
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"To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are"

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Hi Cathy,

I cannot remember April Sampson's e-mail address, but I know she teaches PC
by correspondence and she's somewhere on the southeastern coast of Australia.
Her home page is http://www.ozemail.com.au/%7Easkpv/index.html. I can't check
that since my browser is down, but perhaps April will respond. She's on the
lists.

Good luck, Sue

<<I have lurked for a few months - am really interested in permaculture, but
need 
to brush up my technical skills.  I was hoping for some
advice on which correspondence Permaculture Design courses were available and

recommended?

I would prefer something based on the East Coast, but since it is 
correspondence, I suppose it doesn't make TOO much
difference.

BTW, I have a 100 acre deer farm in Michelago, just south of Canberra.  We
have 
a cold? temperate climate and a low rainfall.
I desparately want to make something of our place as an example for others in

the area, because the Monaro district
has a reputation for being abused and very clapped-out (the farm-land that
is).

Hope someone can help.

Regards

Cathy Morison
Michelago
Australia
cathy.morison@dpie.gov.au

"To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you
are">>>



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REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE FOR THE 21st CENTURY
Rodale Institute's Natural Resource
Management Professional Training Series
October 28 - 31, 1997

The Rodale Institute, which for three generations has been making the vital
connections between Healthy Soil, Healthy Food and Healthy People,
announces the opportunity for interested individuals and institutions to
participate in the first of its Natural Resource Management Training
Series, Regenerative Agriculture for the 21st Century.

The focus of the seminar will be on the use of regenerative technologies
for enhancing soil fertility and managing natural resources, as well as on
the relationship between soil health and human health.  Utilizing the case
study approach, participants will have the opportunity to gain knowledge
and practical experience directly from the expertise of the Rodale
Institute's Regenerative Agriculture Research Centers staff, including such
topics as Soil Conservation from Senegal, West Africa, Community Forest
Concessions, Peten, Guatemala, and Composting and Soil Health from Rodale
Institute's Experimental Farm in Kutztown, PA.

The purpose of this seminar is to familiarize emerging professionals in the
fields of agriculture, international and community development, and natural
resource management with concepts of regenerative agriculture technologies
that recognize the interdependency between agriculture, human health and
environmental responsibility.  Recognizing that many of the solutions to
the world's health problems are linked to our agricultural production and
distributions systems, a new agenda for food and agricultural development
is needed, one for a "greener revolution" directed at increasing the
production of nutritionally adequate food supplies in ways that protect and
maintain community health, socioeconomic environments, and ecological
sustainability.

The seminar is designed to be participatory and will make the transition
from scientific research to practical field experience.  The seminar should
be particularly beneficial for NGO's, international development agencies,
prospective or returned Peace Corps Volunteers, and students who plan to
work in international development and project management.

Cost of the four day training is $450.00.  Price includes registration, all
workshop activities, materials, lunch each day, and reception. Those who
are unable to attend the entire workshop may  attend individual workshop
days at a rate of $150/day. Full payment must be received by October 14. If
you need to cancel, registration fee less than $25 service charge per
person will be refunded if cancellation is made more than one week in
advance.

Once payment is received, participants will receive an information packet
which will include a full schedule of workshop events, hotel information,
maps to the Rodale Institute and advance reading materials. Participants
are responsible for making their own hotel reservations.


Please make checks payable to "Rodale Institute" and mail to:
NRM, The Rodale Institute,
611 Siegfriedale Rd, Kutztown, PA  19530.
For more information  please call John Sabella at (919) 795-5243 or e-mail
Jsabella@Coastalnet.com

PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS
Tuesday, October 28
Day one will focus on the theoretical framework of Regenerative
Agriculture, Food Systems and the implications to Human Health.

Regenerative Agriculture: An Historical and Philosophical Perspective
A visionary in rural Pennsylvania:
the life and times of J.I. Rodale
Presenters:  Anthony Rodale, Vice-Chairman & John Haberern, President,
Rodale Institute

Regenerative Food Production & Distribution Systems
Presenter: Ms. Jennifer Abel: Program Manager, Rodale Institute

Health, Culture, and Agriculture: Healing the Planet; Healing Ourselves
The relationships of human health to the land, using perspectives from
Native American and African-based cultures
Presenter: Dr. Gay Wilentz: Professor of Ethnic Studies, East Carolina
University

Gender and Regenerative Agriculture: A new Paradigm for the 21st Century
Presenters: Dr. Gay Wilentz & Ms. Vore Seck: Director, Senegal Regenerative
Agriculture Resource Center

Evening Presentation
The Rodale Institute/Muhlenberg College Public Seminar
Environmental/Natural Resource Management Through The Lens of Other Cultures

Wednesday, October 29
Day two: Utilizing the case-study approach, we will examine critical issues
relating to Natural Resource Management.

Case Study Moderator: Dr John Sabella, Training & Education Coordinator,
International Programs, Rodale Institute

Stabilizing Shifting Cultivation in Tropical Forests
Projecto Centro Maya, Peten, Guatemala
Presenter: Ing. Mauro Salazar: Coordinator
for Forestry Management


Soil Conservation and Regeneration in the Sahel
Rodale's Regenerative Agriculture Resource
Center, Senegal, West Africa
Presenter: Ms. Vore Seck: Director

Thursday, October 30
Day three will focus on the use of Analytical Frameworks for the Design and
Evaluation of Natural Resource Management Projects

Project Implementation and Data Collection
Participatory Monitoring and Evaluation
Presenter: Dr. Jonathon Landeck:  International  Programs, Rodale Institute

Data Management and Analysis
Diffusion of Results:  New areas for Collaborative
Research & Development
Presenter: Dr. Amadou Diop:  Interrnational Programs, Rodale Institute

Friday, October 31
Day four will focus on Soil Health and Regeneration

Composting
Principals  of Compost Management; Compost site design; Evaluating Compost
Quality; Management strategies
Presenter: Cary Oshins:  Compost Management Specialist, Rodale Institute

Healthy Soil
Composition, Structure and Texture; Organic matter; Soil Micro-Organisms;
Natural soil amendments

Soil Building, Conservation & Management
Legume's, Cover Crops and Green Manure; Rotational  Cropping; Vermiculture
Presenter: Dr. Laurie Drinkwater: Coordinator for U.S.A. Programs, Rodale
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Subject: 1997 East Coast Biodynamic Farming and Gardening Conference

CONTACT: Allan Balliett
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
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NORTH AMERICA'S OLDEST ECOLOGICAL FARMING AND GARDENING ASSOCIATION TO
    HOLD 1997 EAST COAST CONFERENCE IN CHARLES TOWN, WV, OCT. 3-5.

SHEPHERDSTOWN, WV: The 1997 East Coast Biodynamic Farming and Gardening
Conference will be held October 3-5 at Claymont Court, a 400 acre
organic estate outside of Charles Town, WV. The conference, which
features national speakers on sustainable agriculture, herbalism,
nutrition and water quality starts at 5 pm on Friday and ends late
Sunday afternoon.

Biodynamics is a practical approach to organic sustainable agriculture
and gardening. Biodynamics, which was founded by German educator Rudolf
Steiner (Waldorf Schools) in the 1920's, seeks to further soil and water
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nutrition and health. It is a practical and proven
approach to growing without dangerous chemicals or costly amendments.

The purpose of the conference is to provide an opportunity for people
with an interest in growing ecologically, in quality herbalism, in water
quality, and other topics related to taking care of ourselves and the
earth to gather with like-minded people for three days. Dozens of
lectures and workshops on topics of interest to both commercial and
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discussion and networking among attendees. The conference is designed to
be accessible to beginners while being stimulating to experienced
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Among the topics addressed will be the American teachings of British
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through knowledge of the cultural needs of plants, carefully executed
cultivation, and artfully 'brewed' composts is typical of the biodynamic
approach to 'Garden Quality Farming;' walking tractor and spading
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Among the featured speakers are Dr. Paul Lee; Peter Tompkins; Hugh
Courtney; Hugh Lovel; Jennifer Greene; Bruce Blevins; Eugene Canales;
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REGISTRATION: $149 for the entire conference & 6 organic/biodynamic
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Hello.
 I would like to locate information regarding permaculture courses.
Specifically, I would like to know if there are courses being held in the
Southwest on use of constructed wetlands to filter black water. There is a
watershed in Chihuahua into which upstream communities are dumping raw
sewage, causing residents downstream problems such as skin lesions. Several
faculty members at the university in Chihuahua would like to address this
problem and I suggested the permaculture approach which as I understand,
would be less expensive than traditional municipal waste water treatment
plants.  If anyone could point me in the right direction with this problem,
I will pass it along to my contacts in Chihuahua. Thanks, Connie Falk 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Constance L. Falk
Associate Professor
Dept. Ag. Econ. & Ag. Bus.
New Mexico State University

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Victor Guest

Vic
Ross Mars and our group at Murdoch University and Environmental technology
Centre are doind a number of research projects on wetlnds for wastewater
treatment as is Peter Breen at MELBOURNE UNIVERSITY and the Qld Dept of
Primary Industrues (Water branch).  We have also run courses on them in the
past as we will do in the future.

Cheers


Martin Anda
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Tel 61 8 9360 6399  Fax 61 8 9310 4997
Environmental Technology Centre
Tel 61 8 9360 6123 Fax 61 8 9310 4997
Murdoch University
Murdoch  WA  6150


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Hello, 

I am new to this list and this is my first question after being just 
reading messages for about 3 months. My question is to Constance L. 
Falk. A friend has recently been in a community that deals with 
Permaculture in New Mexico, Santa Fe. I have tryed to find something 
about them in the Internet but it seems that they don't have a web 
page. Do you know, or anybody in this list, any information about 
this community? Their emphasis is something like fruit 
agroforestry production and ecological architecture. 

Thanks,
Antar Sangit (sangit@sede.ibama.gov.br)
Instituto de Permacultura de Brasilia
Brazil
http://www.pnfc.org/

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I would be interested in hearing about anybody's experience with, or
recommendations about Australian made domestic mulchers.

Living on a small inner suburban site means mulching of any offcuts,
leaves, etc that come my way is essential.

Graham Johnson
Melbourne

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>I would be interested in hearing about anybody's experience with, or
>recommendations about Australian made domestic mulchers.

Hi I have just taken over managing a suburban permaculture Garden,
and I have been using a Rover domestic mulcher. Currently I am in the 
process of sharpening the chipper blades as they are very worn.
It seems quite good at what I need it for.

>Living on a small inner suburban site means mulching of any offcuts,
>leaves, etc that come my way is essential.
>
>Graham Johnson
>Melbourne
>

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          Vic
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>From: Martin Anda <anda@essun1.murdoch.edu.au>
>To: Permaculture WA <perma@eepo.com.au>
>
>Victor Guest
>
>Vic
>Ross Mars and our group at Murdoch University and Environmental technology
>Centre are doind a number of research projects on wetlnds for wastewater
>treatment as is Peter Breen at MELBOURNE UNIVERSITY and the Qld Dept of
>Primary Industrues (Water branch).  We have also run courses on them in the
>past as we will do in the future.
>
>Cheers
>
>
>Martin Anda
>Research Associate
>Remote Area Developments Group
>Tel 61 8 9360 6399  Fax 61 8 9310 4997
>Environmental Technology Centre
>Tel 61 8 9360 6123 Fax 61 8 9310 4997
>Murdoch University
>Murdoch  WA  6150
>

I am delighted Martin, is there anywhere that this could be considered 
on the Swan and Canning to deal with the "Bloom".

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          Vic
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>
>The October 1997  Harpers carries an article on page 13 by Davis Ehrenfeld
>which is excerpted from "A Cruel and Transient Agriculture"
>Here is a snippet-

 There is no doubt in my mind that the push to control food suplies was an
 engineered phenominom.

>--------------------
> The primary problem is that Green Revolution agribusiness requires vast
>amounts of energy to grow and sustain these "miracle crops." Oil must be
>burned to make the large quantities of nitrogen fertilizer on which these
>plants depend. Farmers also must invest heavily in toxic herbicides,
>insecticides, and fungicides; in irrigation systems; and in spraying,
>harvesting, and processing machinery for the weakened, seed heavy plants.
>Large sums of money must be bor rowed to pay for these "inputs" before the
>growing season starts in the hope that crop sales will allow farmers to repay
>the debt later in the season. When that hope is frustrated, the farmer often
>loses his farm and is driven into a migrant pool of cheap labor for
>corporate-farming operations or is forced to seek work in the landless,
>teeming cities. 
>---------
I represent this remark. What got me was interest rates driven up to 25%.
Farming numbers went down in Australia from 172,000 to 125,000 in 3 years.
These farmers I am led to believe now owe $18billion.(1997/90
My 5,000 acre farm was sold for $180,000 when in 1982 this property would 
have been valued at $720,000


> Excluding military spending on fabulously expensive, dysfunctional weapons
>systems, there is no more dramatic case of people having their needs
>appropriated for the sake of profit at any cost. Like high-input agriculture,
>genetic engineering is often justified as a humane technology, one that feeds
>more people with better food. Nothing could be further from the truth. With
>very few exceptions, the whole point of genetic engineering is to increase
>the sales of chemicals and bioengineered products to dependent farmers, and
>to increase the dependence of farmers  on their new handlers, the seed
>companies and the oil, chemical, and pharmaceutical companies that own them.
>---------

Read what Bill Mollinson has to say about agriculture in the opening address
 http://www.cowan.edu.au/~paustin/ipc6 for the proceedings of the 1996
               Permaculture Convergence on line.
 I haven't read it but I believe one Keynote speaker was from India and 
spoke on the disaster of the Green Revolution in India.

Two books which speak about this control are the Controversy of Zion by 
Gordon Reed, and the Protocols of Zion. from the British Museum.

Regards,
          Vic
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>From: Antar Sangit <sangit@sede.ibama.gov.br>
>To: Permaculture WA <perma@eepo.com.au>
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>Hello, 
>
>I am new to this list and this is my first question after being just 
>reading messages for about 3 months. My question is to Constance L. 
>Falk. A friend has recently been in a community that deals with 
>Permaculture in New Mexico, Santa Fe. I have tryed to find something 
>about them in the Internet but it seems that they don't have a web 
>page. Do you know, or anybody in this list, any information about 
>this community? Their emphasis is something like fruit 
>agroforestry production and ecological architecture. 
>
>Thanks,
>Antar Sangit (sangit@sede.ibama.gov.br)
>Instituto de Permacultura de Brasilia
>Brazil
>http://www.pnfc.org/
>

Isn't there an International Permaculture Registry. I seem to remember 
a Bahai group in South America as well.

Regards,
          Vic
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>                       CALL FOR ABSTRACTS AND PAPERS
>
>Internet Conference on Integrated Bio-Systems (April-Dec 1998)
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>This Internet Conference is a virtual conference where full papers will be
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>The conference is jointly organized by the Institute of Advanced Studies
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>Resources Center (MIRCEN-Stockholm)  under the UNU/IAS prgramme on
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>The purpose of the conference is to permit Internet access to a
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>Scope
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>The conference will deal with a variety of topics on the science,
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>aquaculture and industry for energy and primary food production, waste
>treatment & utilization, food processing. Papers are invited on integrated
>bio-systems for localized site applications, such as fish-bivalve
>polyculture systems in aquaculture; crop-mushroom-compost systems in
>agriculture; integrated agriculture-aquaculture systems (e.g. rice-fish
>systems); systems for wastewater treatment and utilization, water quality
>management (e.g. sewage wastewater-fish-hydroponics-wetland systems) and
>solid waste treatment and utilisation (e.g. municipal solid
>waste-vermiculture-compost-duck systems, and livestock
>manure-biogas-crop/horticulture systems). Scientific papers related to the
>above topics on their microbial ecosystems, their materials balance and
>nutrients flows, transfer of toxics in the food chains, economic analysis
>and assessment of whole systems, ecological bioremediation, etc. are also
>welcomed. Other systems may have a wider landscape applications, including
>coastal zone aquaculture and resource management, agro-forestry,
>lowland-upland, urban-agriculture, lakes, villages, communities, industrial
>and recreation parks, cities) and those at a regional level that cover
>socio-economic and political issues.
>
>Instructions for Submission of Abstracts:
>
>An abstract should not be longer than 55 lines (65 characters per line) and
>to include (a) title, author(s) name(s), postal address, and other
>electronic addresses. Please send your abstract(s) to:
>ias-wg09@ias.unu.edu
>Deadline: 1st submission - 31 Dec'97 - for presentation between
>April-June'98
>Deadline: 2nd submission - 30 June'98 - for presentation between
>Oct-Dec'98.
>
>All abstracts will be reviewed by a committee and upon their approval,
>authors will be requested to submit the full paper. Details will be
>provided separately to authors. Abstracts and full papers will be available
>on a web site and for discussion via an electronic mailing list. Access to
>electronic mail or Internet is a pre-requisite.
>
>To receive future details and announcements on the conference, please join
>the list: ias-wg08@ias.unu.edu ; send an email to Listserv@ias.unu.edu and
>write the message: SUB IAS-WG08 yourfirstname yourlastname
>e.g. sub ias-wg08 Raman Chambers
>
>Contact Person:
>Eng-Leong "Jacky" Foo.
>mailto:ias-wg09@ias.unu.edu
>

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Nancy Grudens Schuck
Doctoral Candidate

Department of Education
119 Kennedy Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853
U.S.A.

E-mail: ng13@cornell.edu
FAX: (607) 255-7905

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>From: "Monica Durcan" <mdurcan@ois.net.au>
>To: <victor.guest@eepo.com.au>
>
>Hi Vic
>
>Are you out there? I would like to give you some information on Landcare
>Vision for the PAWA newsletter sometime. I think a tour would interest your
>members.
>
>Monica Durcan
Monica if you write to perma@eepo.com.au you are writing to about 40 odd 
Permies. Some are possibly going to reply to you about this post. I have 
forwarded this to LMS as well.
I can add you to those lists which will mean you can get involved in the 
discussions.

Regards,
          Vic
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               Permaculture Convergence on line

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>
>>From: wgibson@sover.net (Willie Gibson)
>>Subject: holistic workshop 
>>Please share this with anyone who may have an interest.  This is a
>>PARTICIPATORY workshop, not a lecture series.

I have put this workshop idea in here as i think that it is complimentary
to Permaculture, and LMS.

>>Key Words: Holistic Management (formerly HRM), Personal & Community
>>Leadership, Effective Communications, Consensus, Values-based
>>Decision-Making, Inclusive Management, Profitable Farming, Sustainability,
>>Principle-Centered Philosophy
>>
>>Here is an opportunity for re-grouping, organizing, prioritizing, planning,
>>and re-invigorating creative spirit.....
>>        .......with a family, on their farm, within a rural community.  Each
>>of those three wholes of society will be addressed, as well as the
>>individual whole each of us brings and aspires to become.
>>
>>GENERATING JOY, WEALTH & WISDOM
>>MAKING THE MOST OF THE RELATIONSHIPS, TIME AND DECISIONS OF YOUR LIFE
>>October 23-24, 1997 - 9:30 AM to 5:00 PM
>>Canaan, Vermont
>>
>>Presented By: 
>>William S. Gibson, UVM Extension Specialist - Sustainable Agriculture
>>
>>OUTLINE OF THE COURSE
>>
>>I.  Making the Most of Your RELATIONSHIPS: Win/Win Consensus Building
>>1.  Listening With Respect.......
>>2.  Understanding First....... 
>>3.  Behaving Like We Mean It.......                                         
>>
>>II.  Making the Most of Your Time.....
>>1.  Defining and Assessing the Present "Whole"
>>2.  Discovering & Clarifying Mission & Vision  or "Holistic Goal"
>>3.  What's Urgent - What's Important - What's the Difference?
>>4.  Putting First Things First!
>>5.  Plan With Life Principles....... Live Your Plan 
>>
>>III. Making the Most of Your DECISIONS...
>>1.  Testing Options Against Principles, Values, Mission  
>>2.  Having All the Players Playing  
>>3.  Making Sound Decisions (Socially, Economically & Ecologically)
>>4.  Planning for a Profit - Generating Wealth from the Source
>>
>>Willie's HOLISTIC GOAL is to:
>>+  Be in an atmosphere of respect, caring, understanding, sharing, learning,
>>fun, and honoring of one another;
>>+  Facilitate, learn from, share with, enjoy, honor, and encourage everyone;
>>+  Have each person gain joy, wealth & wisdom in their lives, and share them
>>with others, as a result of this course. 
>>
>>The principles that will guide our learning are:
>>1.  Consensus is Behavior, not just technique.
>>2.  Management of Self, not time.
>>3.  Testing  Decisions as a Way of Thinking.
>>4.  Relationships are Most Crucial !!!
>>
>>Your Financial Investment:  
>>        $100 first person, $50 per each additional person *+
>>
>>* - each person from the same family, farm, group, team, or management unit
>>+ - basic lunches and snacks included 
>>$ - no one is denied enrollment due to financial constraints
>>
>>Information about the region and local over-night accomodations are
>>available for the asking.
>>
>>What Can You Get For Your Investment?
>>
>>* Enhanced respect, understanding, and creativity  - especially within your
>>family, group, or team
>>* Tips for using  time more effectively by using your built-in "compass."
>>* Base your decisions more upon your values, and the universal principles of
>>sustainability.  
>>* A resource packet of materials from several national & international
>>gatherings & workshops.
>>.......AND you will gain friendship, community, encouragement, & confidence! 
>>
>>
>>If you need assistance or special accomodations to join in this activity,
>>please contact Willie Gibson at the Berlin UVM Extension System office by
>>calling 802/223-2389, or Emily Carlson & Richard Norris at 802/266-3091.
>>
>>The University of Vermont Extension System and USDA cooperating provide
>>education programs to people regardless of gender, color, race, religion,
>>handicap, marital or familial status.
>>
>>
>> 
>>Grace, Blessings, & Peace,
>>
>>Willie Gibson, Extension Specialist - Sustainable Agriculture
>>University of Vermont Extension
>>RR 4, Box 2298
>>Montpelier, VT 05602-8927
>>ph: 802/223-2389  ext.16
>>fax: 802/223-6500
>>wgibson@sover.net    
>>                    "I can do what you can't do, and you can do
>>what I can't do.  Together we can do great things."
>>                                     - Mother Teresa of Calcutta


Regards,
          Vic
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victor.guest@eepo.com.au                  11 Carew Place Greenwood 6024 
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GRAHAM JOHNSON wrote:
> 
> I would be interested in hearing about anybody's experience with, or
> recommendations about Australian made domestic mulchers.
> 
> Living on a small inner suburban site means mulching of any offcuts,
> leaves, etc that come my way is essential.
> 
> Graham Johnson
> Melbourne

Graham,

I use an US made mulcher, but my advise is to only buy a petrol-driven
one no matter what the origin or brand. The electric ones are only
good for lawn clippings and leaves - they will clog on even the smallest
branch or twig... Of course, it's still possible to clog any mulcher
with abuse, but the petrol ones can at least handle branches up to 50mm
or so.

Cheers, Keith.

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  Keith Elwell-Gavins
    Queanbeyan, NSW
      Australia
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 11:51:50 -0700
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Subject: Conference Focus Session:  Farming the Urban Fringe

i believe this announcement is appropriate and I apologize for any cross
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CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT

Food & Natural Resource Systems: 
Integrating Diversity, Inquiry, 
Action, & People

Third North American Conference of the
Farming Systems Research & 
Extension Association

in  collaboration with

Oregon State University
Washington State University, Center for Sustaining Agriculture and
Natural Resources
 And Other Groups

November 2-5, 1997

Resort at the Mountain
Welches (Mt. Hood), OR

Focus Session: 
Farming the Urban Fringe
Organized by the WSU Western Washington Small Farms Team
(see URL: http://smallfarms.wsu.edu/UrbFarm.htm)



Farming the Urban Fringe is one of four concurrent focus sessions at the
Farming Systems Research & Extension conference. Focus sessions
integrate knowledge and experience with focused and facilitated
discussion. Focus session discussions will highlight integrated research
or inquiry along with facts, analysis, and feedback.  The other three
focus sessions at the conference are:  Community Food Systems; Watershed
Inquiry and Action; Crop and Livestock Production Systems.


Farming the Urban Fringe will explore social, economic, and
environmental issues associated with agriculture in the urban-rural
interface. Voices will be heard from individuals and organizations
shaping this issue such as farmers and their neighbors, consumers,
government agencies, activists, media, and the business community. 

Call for Presentations   (Deadline: October 15)

1. Submit an abstract and indicate your interest in presenting a
5-minute summary to serve as an introduction to one of the following
four major topics for this focus session for the Monday program: 

* Economics and Farm Profitability - value added, niche markets,
marketing, maintaining viable farms in face of high land prices & taxes 

* Land Use Planning and Preservation - preservation and use of
agricultural lands, land  resource availability, regulations, incentives
(taxes, right to farm, etc), urban food policy 

* Community Relations, Communication, and Learning - demand for locally
grown food, rural-urban understanding/interaction, media role/coverage 

* Resource Stewardship - water quality, waste management, pesticide use
& management, fertilizer & nutrient management, recycling, composting

2. Submit a description or short summary for a poster, photo display,
agency exhibit, etc. to present at the Learning Bazaar on Sunday.

3. Volunteer to tell a story to lead off the Story-Telling session on
Sunday. Stories should describe the complexity and connections of food
and natural resource systems. 

Session Agenda: Farming the Urban Fringe 

Sunday Nov 2 

2 - 9 pm: Learning Bazaar, Food, Fair, and Reception
Look, listen and learn by attending poster sessions, photo displays,
agency exhibits and a systems thinking/action bazaar. 

4 - 7 pm: Story-telling, which describes the complexity and connections
of food and natural resource systems. All participants will be invited
to tell their story. 

Monday Nov 3 

7:00: Breakfast in the Ballroom.

8 - 8:30: Introductions and expectations of the conference format will
be explained. 

8:30 - 9:20: Plenary session: Farming the Urban Fringe (speaker to be
announced).  Introduction to systems thinking in simple and
understandable terms:
	* Patterns, relationships, interconnections;
	* Building the rationale for systems;
	* Value of systems' diverse context and bringing diverse interests
together. 

9:30 -1:30 pm: Four themes of Farming the Urban Fringe - Two 5-minute
presentations will be made for each topic followed a 30 minute
discussion. 

9:30 - 10:15: Economics and Farm Profitability (2 presentations /
discussion) 

10:15 - 11:00: Land Use Planning and Preservation (2 presentations /
discussion) 

11:00 - 12:00:  Brunch 

12:00 - 12:45:  Community Relations, Communication, and Learning (2
presentations / discussion)

12:45 - 1:30: Resource Stewardship (2 presentations / discussion) 

1:30 - 2:40: Self-selected Break-out Groups 

Participants will remain in one meeting room but will form break-out
groups to further discuss one of the four major topics or other topic(s)
identified by the group. The charge will be to:
	*  Look for common trends and issues;
	*  Fit commonalties to what will be seen on the field tour. 

2:40 - 3:30:  Break-out groups will provide 5-minute synopses of
findings / discussion to the whole focus group, followed by general
dialogue

3:30 - 4:00: Break 

4:00 - 4:30: Focus Group Presentation. Focus groups present 5 minute
summaries to the whole conference. 

4:30 - 5:00: Remarks & Reflections.  Whole conference session (speaker
to be announced).

6:30 - 7:30: Dinner

7:30 - 9:30: Spontaneous Learning Groups 

*********************************
Tuesday Nov 4 

Field Tour:  A box lunch will be provided for tour 
participants

The tour is designed to complement the four major topics of Farming the
Urban Fringe and to enable participants to assess:

* What are people researching?
* How are they doing the research?
* What relationships/connections are they making?
* Who will use the results; how will the results improve the situation?

These questions will be considered in the context of the following tour
schedule:

* Ornamental nursery stock production - the leading agricultural
industry in Oregon is based near Portland;

* High-value horticultural food crops in southwest Washington - ginseng
and red raspberries;

* Animal waste management - tour an award winning dairy on the Portland
urban fringe that 	excels at working with nearby neighbors;

* State-wide land use planning that preserves farm land - Oregon leads
the nation in agricultural land preservation efforts. 
Wednesday Nov 5 

7:00 - 8:30: Working Breakfast

Break-out groups will meet over breakfast and prepare a list, poster,
diagram, story, or some other summary of their discoveries about
researching/integrating agriculture in the urban fringe environment.
Flip chart paper, pens and other supplies will be available along with
breakfast. 

8:30 - 10:00: "Going To The Fair"

For the first 40 minutes, half of each break-out group will be
"exhibiting/presenting" the groups' discoveries/summaries to the entire
conference group while the other half will be touring the "exhibits"
prepared by all the focus groups. After 40 minutes, the "presenters"
switch roles so that everyone has an opportunity to view and learn from
the exhibits. 

10:00 - 10:30: Break 

10:30 - 12:00: Whole Systems Research
Focus group will reconvene and break-out groups will re-form to discuss:

1) What is whole systems research?
2) What is working, what ought to be improved?
3) How/what can citizens or multiple agencies contribute?
4) How/when can causal research be integrated?
5) What might be changed in how we currently do research and inquiry? 

12:00 - 1:00: Lunch 

1:00 - 2:00: Break-out groups will provide 5-minute synopses of findings
/ discussion to the whole focus group, followed by general dialogue. 

2:00 - 2:30: Break 

2:30 - 3:30: Discoveries, Critical Analysis, & Reflections - Wrap-Up.
Each focus group will make a 10-minute presentation of their cumulative
discoveries to the whole conference. 
3:30 - 5:00: Town Hall

A Town Hall meeting featuring citizens and agency heads along with
conferees will discuss the conference themes which were identified in
the previous session. 

6:00: Gala Dinner, Theater and Farewells 


To Submit Presentations for This Session/
For More Information/Farmer Scholarships:

Carol Miles, PhD 
Area Faculty, Agricultural Systems
Chehalis, WA
(URL: http://smallfarms.wsu.edu/UrbFarm.htm)

Douglas M. Stienbarger
Area Faculty, Agriculture and Natural Resources
WSU Cooperative Extension
700 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3700
Seattle, WA 98104-5037
	tel: 206-205-6390  	Fax: 206-296-0952
	e-mail: douglas.stienbarger@metrokc.gov
	
For General Conference Information/
Registration Packet:


Stefan Seiter  (e-mail: seiters@bcc.orst.edu)
Ray D. William (e-mail: williamr@bcc.orst.edu)
Oregon State University 
Horticulture Department, 4017 ALS
Corvallis, OR 97330
    Tel: 541-737-5441



Douglas M. Stienbarger
Area Faculty, Agriculture & Natural Resources, 
       King & Pierce Counties
Washington State University Cooperative Extension
700th Fifth Ave., Suite 3700
Seattle, WA 98104-5037

Direct Line & Voice Mail:  206-205-6390
mailto:douglas.stienbarger@metrokc.gov
fax: 206-296-0952
   
Office telephone: 206-296-3900

