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Lawrence F. London, Jr., Venaura Farm, Chapel Hill, NC USA 
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On Friday Afternoon 22 of March:

The Vancouver (BC Canada) Permaculture Network is having a potluck and
slide show.
Permaculture: its about how to create sustainable livings: by using
renewable resources, edible landscaping and good ecological design.

This event is a friendly get together.  Just bring food.
Mishtu Bannerji is presenting
Edible Wild Plants and their Propagation.
- Wild Plants are easy to grow!
-Some are hard to grow from seed: special requirements: Stratification
and Scarification.
Starting about 6:00 in Richmond, BC
Call Harold Waldock 8740161 for details about location and rides.

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>B. Rateaver writes:
>>I think you will find that his name is Mollison, not Morrison. He is an 
>>Australian who came up with a great idea and milked it for all he is 
>>worth. If I am not mistaken he had a partner in the early days of the 
>>invention of Permaculture, a fellow called David, but the partner never 
>>gets a mention these days.
>

>charles barber writes:\
>david holmgren - he's still around spreading the word and well worth
>listening to/reading

Absolutely!  I had the pleasure of spending two days on my Permaculture
Design Course with David.  The difference between Bill and David is that
Bill went out and preached Pc while David practiced it.  David is living
Permaculture and has been since its inception and in recent years he has
found time to write about his Pc experiences.  I found David to be a truly
inspiring person.  I have nothing against Bill.  I think it's a shame that
David has been forgotten or overlooked. 
              
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               'The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, 
                   but the cultivation and perfection of human beings'.   
                    Masanobu Fukuoka - 'The One-Straw Revolution'
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                                 Carmela Leone
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Hi people in the list
I am looking for a very good book where I can find  complete information 
in how to build ponds for water storage and dams. 
In short, a Book for water management.
If any body could give me this information I really appreciate it.

Thank you in advance

German Poleo
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From: Kathy Ging <kging@efn.org>
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         bamboodon@efn.org, ww@together.net, alt.save.the.earth@efn.org,
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A couple of  references, you may want them in your
file:  Tree-Talk, Inc.431 Pine
publishes Woods of the World (ca. $70) 431 Pine
St. Burlington, VT 05402. (see more below)

(separate item: First Biomass Conference, Radisson Hotel, Burlington  VT 
Aug. 30- Sept. 2,1994 Milly Lemmons organized it (I heard about this from 
National Renewable Energy Lab 1617 Cole Blvd. Golden, CO 80401  303  
275-4099. I did not attend, but I wonder if there might be another
one planned.)

Have you seen the older book - ca. 1982 - 2nd ed. of 
Intl Bioenergy Directory pub by Bioenergy Council in D.C. Dunno
if it still exists. It was a $90 tome with ca. 1/3 of the biomasss
projects in the world. I donated a copy to Eugene library which
unfortunately discarded it. (Perhaps it was a threat to the 
timber industry?) It may be available thru inter library loan.

**   TREE TALK (Cont.from lst parag above) Charles Baah is the
organizer of this epic undertaking; Large computer database with 
photos,data on over 900 species of wood, designed to encourage
the use of lesser known species.
   
TEL: 802-863-6789, FAX: 802-863-4344.Small version 
$29; longer -$99. Pro version incl micrographs & other data - $99; floppy 
disc ($139) sometime after Feb. 96 new version should be ready.  E-mail: 
ww@together.net.

Also, do you know about Curt Mitchell, Ph.D. who has a more and
less severe version of a deed restriction to prevent
clearcutting in perpetuity?  541-942-5424 POB  38  Lorane,OR 974
97451.) He sometimes buys property, puts the deed restriction on it,
then sells it. He is eager to share his restriction with others
to do the same.  A $25 donation is requested if one actually does
use it on one*s land to defray the several thousand dollars of
his own money spent in designing it.
Curt e-mail: mitchelc@ohsu.edu.


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A couple of  references, you may want:
Tree-Talk, Inc.431 Pine
publishes Woods of the World (ca. $70) 431 Pine
St. Burlington, VT 05402. (see more below)
Charles Baah  is 
organizer of this epic undertaking; Large computer database with
photos,data on over 900 species of wood, designed to encourage
the use of lesser known species.

TEL: 802-863-6789, FAX: 802-863-4344.Small version
$29; longer -$99. Pro version incl micrographs & other data - $99; floppy 
disc ($139) sometime after Feb. 96 new version should be ready.  E-mail: 
ww@together.net.

Also, do you know about Curt Mitchell, Ph.D. who has a more and
less severe version of a deed restriction to prevent
clearcutting in perpetuity?  (541-942-5424) POB  38  Lorane,OR 974
97451.) He sometimes buys property, puts the deed restriction on it,
then sells it. He is eager to share his restriction with others
to do the same.  A $25 donation is requested if one actually does
use it on one*s land to defray the several thousand dollars of
his own money spent in designing it.
Curt e-mail: mitchelc@ohsu.edu.

First Biomass Conference, Radisson Hotel, Burlington  VT
Aug. 30- Sept. 2,1994 Milly Lemmons organized it (I heard about this from 
National Renewable Energy Lab 1617 Cole Blvd. Golden,
CO 80401  303 275-4099. I did not attend, anyone have reports 
on it?

Intl Bio-ENergy Directory was 2 in. tome pub. ca. 1982 covering
ca. 1/3 of the biomass r  & d projects in the world. It was $90 
and is probably only available thru inter library loan. It was
pub by the BIo-Energy Council (dunno if they still extant).

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A customer of mine in Sweden is looking for some plants of Apios
americana-GROUNDNUT. Has anyone come across this plant in any catalogs?
Could I get a reccomendation of where to purchase plants?

Thanks

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Hello all,

I am a new subscriber who is an avid gardener.   Is the volume of this li=
st =

really this low?  I've only received two messages in two weeks - maybe =

something is wrong with my e-mail?   My wife and I are soon to turn into =

organic fruit/ veg. farmers.   Although there are thousands of references=
 on =

organic gardening/farming, I can find nothing on no-till-organic farming =

other than Masanubu Fukuyoka (apologies for spelling by memory) which =

doesn't relate too well to my location in Minnesota, USA.   I'd like to f=
ind =

resources (human, electronic, or books) that have details of weed managem=
ent =

techniques, planting and germination, intercropping or companion planting=
 =

for pest reduction etc. using no-till and organic techniques.   If anyone=
 =

knows of resources I'd be grateful.  Also of interest to me are testimoni=
als =

from gardeners, farmers, researchers, as to the difficulties and success =

stories using no-till + organic techniques.

What happened to spring???  It's -11=B0F here with a foot of snow.  Any g=
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farms down south?:-)

Neil Vasilakes
Neil.Vasilakes@HBC.honeywell.com

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>I am a new subscriber who is an avid gardener.   Is the volume of this list 
>really this low?  I've only received two messages in two weeks - maybe 
>something is wrong with my e-mail?   My wife and I are soon to turn into 
>organic fruit/ veg. farmers.   Although there are thousands of references on 
>organic gardening/farming, I can find nothing on no-till-organic farming 
>other than Masanubu Fukuyoka (apologies for spelling by memory) which 
>doesn't relate too well to my location in Minnesota, USA.   I'd like to find 
>resources (human, electronic, or books) that have details of weed management 
>techniques, planting and germination, intercropping or companion planting 
>for pest reduction etc. using no-till and organic techniques.   If anyone 
>knows of resources I'd be grateful.  Also of interest to me are testimonials 
>from gardeners, farmers, researchers, as to the difficulties and success 
>stories using no-till + organic techniques.

Try John Jeavons "How To Grow More Vegetables Than You Ever Thought
Possible...."  He also has "Backyard Mini Farm and Garden Logbook".  There
are the Organic Gardening and Homestead mailing lists.  I do not have the
subscription information here.

  Donald E. Bowen                       Software Engineer
  Valley Center CA.                     donb@cts.com

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SAN PUBLICATIONS
9 November 1995

The Sustainable Agriculture Network (SAN) is a cooperative effort of
university, government, business and non-profit organizations dedicated
to the exchange of scientific and practical information on sustainable
agricultural systems.  It is a network in the broadest sense of the word,
supporting the exchange of information with a variety of users. 
Publishing is a vital tool for networking. 

SAN has organized its publications around the WHO, WHAT, WHERE and HOW of
sustainable agriculture. 
  
WHO:   The "Sustainable Agriculture Directory of Expertise --
Third Edition" lists hundreds of people and groups you can contact for
advice on building soil health, broadening your arsenal of pest-control
tools, diversifying cash flow and much more.  It is produced by ATTRA in
cooperation with SAN. 
 
WHAT:       SAN sponsors the "Showcase of Educational Materials",
a compilation of publications, videos, and other materials, as a way to
identify both exemplary educational materials and knowledge "gaps" to
fill. 

Materials that synthesize information in forms readily usable to farmers
are a particular focus of the Showcase.  Those interested in contributing
materials to the Showcase should contact Andy Clark, SAN Coordinator, c/o
Alternative Farming Systems Information Center, Rm. 304, National
Agricultural Library, 10301 Baltimore Blvd., Beltsville, MD 20705.  (301)
504-6425 .  FAX:  (301) 504-6409. INTERNET:  san@nalusda.gov. 
                
The "SARE Overview" provides a yearly review that highlights
accomplishments of the Sustainable Agriculture Research and Education
(SARE) program. 
    
WHEN AND WHERE:       The"Calendar of Sustainable Agriculture"
meetings and events is updated bi-monthly.  Also attached is a current
schedule of the regional SARE/ACE granting cycles. Contact Andy Clark to
join the mailing list or to submit an event for the calendar. 

HOW:     "Managing Cover Crops Profitably" is the first in a series of SAN
Handbooks.  It was prepared because more and more farmers want reliable,
easy-to-scan information on cover crops.  "Managing Cover Crops
Profitably" is a practical, introductory guide to help remove some of the
guesswork. A SAN factsheet, "Sustainable Agriculture vs. Weeds,"
highlights some of the Sustainable Agriculture Research and Education
(SARE) and Agriculture in Concert with the Environment (ACE) projects
aimed at controlling weeds with fewer herbicides. 

A new handbook on sustainable agriculture tillage tools and techniques is
currently in production.

"The Real Dirt: Farmers Tell about Organic and Low-Input Practices in the 
Northeast."  In a practical, farmer-oriented way, this 264-page book 
offers firsthand knowledge about the many biological, cultural, mechanical 
and even chemical tools available to farmers.  Funded by the Northeast 
SARE region.
 
        "Profitable DAIRY OPTIONS 
   Grazing, Marketing, Nutrient Management"
is a new (1995) free brochure on sustainable dairy production.  It
highlights pasture-user support groups, the benefits of manures and
composts, the pre-sidedress soil nitrate test (PSNT), alternative silage
crops, and other profitable options.  Contact Andy Clark or the University
of Vermont for single copies or small quantities. 

          
    TO ORDER: Please send your check, or purchase order to: Sustainable
Agriculture Publications, Hills Building, Room 12, University of Vermont,
Burlington, VT 05405-0082

Managing Cover Crops Profitably                                 $9.95 
The Sustainable Agriculture Directory of Expertise              $18.95

The Showcase of Sustainable Agriculture Information and Education
Materials                                                        $4.95

The Real Dirt: Farmers Tell About Organic and Low-Input Practices in 
the Northeast                                                   $13.95

Profitable DAIRY OPTIONS      Free
                                
Tillage Tools and Techniques (To be announced)


ELECTRONIC RESOURCES

SAN Publications are also available as "electronic books."  Whether from a
computer disk or over a computer network their information can be searched
more quickly than it takes to scan a paper index.  The program runs only
onMS-DOS-compatible machines, at this time.  (Windows and Macintosh
available in 1996). Diskettes of SAN publications are the same price as
the print publication (but they are searchable and portable).  SAN also
has additional databases and publications on disk, at a cost of $7.50 per
publication.  Examples are a Computerized AGRONOMY HANDBOOK, SARE/ACE
Project Summaries, and the 1994 Directory of State Alternative Agriculture
Laws.  Order these through the address at left.  For a complete listing of
"electronic books", contact Andy Clark. 

        SUPPORT
SAN is supported by the USDA's Sustainable
Agriculture Research and Education (SARE) program. 
The Coordinating Committee includes:
          Andy Clark, SAN Coordinator  (san@nalusda.gov)
          Jill Auburn, University of California
          (jsauburn@ucdavis.edu)
          Kevin Gamble, North Carolina State University
          (kgamble@amani.ces.ncsu.edu)
          Beth Holtzman, Northeast SARE Program, 
          University of Vermont (bholtzma@moose.uvm.edu)
          Kristen Kelleher, Western SARE Program, 
          University of  CA.  (kkelleher@ucdavis.edu)
          Jim Lukens, ATTRA (jiml@ncatfyv.uark.edu)
          Ed Rajotte, Pennsylvania State University
          (egrajotte@a1.psupen.psu.edu)
          Phil Rasmussen, Utah State University
          (soilcomp@cc.usu.edu)
          Gwen Roland, Southern SARE Program
          groland@gaes.griffin.peachnet.edu
          Tory Shade, University Extension, Wayne County,
          Missouri (shadev@ext.missouri.edu)

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Hi, Neal.

I'm basically a lurker on the permaculture list, but I'm in charge of a=20
very active list (sanet-mg) for sustainable agriculture. =20

The Sustainable Agriculture Network publishes a "Sustainable Agriculture=20
Directory of Expertise, with about 1000 organizations and individuals=20
with specific expertise in sustainable ag, including organic and tillage=20
and weed control.  The current 3rd Edition just came out.  I'll send=20
ordering information in the next message (about SAN publications).  It,=20
and other SAN publications are also available on diskette in an easily=20
searchable format.  I just spent about 2 minutes searching with the key=20
words organic, tillage weed.  I'll attach two examples of hits, or people=
=20
who have agreed to be contacted about their expertise.

I'll be glad to help you or anyone on the list subscribe to sanet-mg, or=20
to access our publications by gopher or (coming soon), the WWW.  I'm also=
=20
going to send information about contacting the Alternative Farming=20
Systems Information Center (AFSIC), which maintains a lot of information. =
=20

Hope this helps.

Andy Clark
SAN Coordinator
c/o AFSIC, Room 304
National Agricultural Library
10301 Baltimore Ave.
Beltsville, MD  20705-2351
PH:  301-504-6425
FAX: 301-504-6409
san@nal.usda.gov


FROM SAN's Directory of Expertise

Ref#: 170 Individual    Cat: 00148

Doug Waugh                                       =20
Waugh-Sum Acres                        =20
1636 West Co Rd 8           =20
Berthoud, CO 80513                               =20

Telephone:(303)532-2590

Preferred method of contact: Contact anytime via mail or
telephone.

Sust. Agric. Roles: Full - Time Farmer / Rancher

Major Areas of Sust. Agric. Expertise: Organic Production,
Livestock Production, Tillage

Primary crop and livestock enterprises: vegetables, small fruits,
feedgrains, cover crops, beef cattle

Description of Sustainable Agriculture work: All we grow is
certified organic so we can raise organic beef along with our
strawberries, raspberries, and a wide variety of vegetables, and
edible beans.  Along w/the corn & alfalfa for our feeders, we
grow a cover crop pasture for the cow/calf herd.  We sell a
supply of natural fertilizers and biological controls for the
local organic growers & homeowners.  We do farm shows on the
'Bezzerides' in-the-row weeder & the Yeoman Keyline Plow.  This
exposes mainline farmers to some of the tools for transition into
more sust. ag methods.  We have assisted the state univ.
integrate into their research program comparisons on methods for
weed control w/o herbicides versus=20

Information resources available: We have literature sheets &
field days on the Yoeman Keyline Conservation Tillage Plow and
the Bezzerides in-the-row weeders attached to a floating gang
cultivator.  We coordinate bulk/bag orders of softrock phosphate
and Planters II trace mineral fertilizers. We sell composted
dairy manure, and liquid fish/kelp, and Nitron enzyme soil
conditioner.=20


The SAN Directory of Expertise

________________________________________________________________

Ref#: 560 Individual    Cat: 00437

Les & Debbie Guile                               =20
Walnut Grove Farm                      =20
189 Rt. 519                 =20
Newton, NJ 07860                                 =20

Telephone:(201)383-5029

Contact People: Jennifer Morgan

Preferred method of contact: I prefer to be contacted by phone
from 8 a.m. to noon or after 6 p.m.  at (201)383-5029.

Sust. Agric. Roles: Part - Time Farmer / Rancher

Major Areas of Sust. Agric. Expertise: Organic Production,
Horticultural Crop Production, Vegetable, Marketing

Primary crop and livestock enterprises: vegetables, Christmas
trees, cut flowers, onions and related, herbs

Description of Sustainable Agriculture work: I am currently
opening up new acreage to experimental cover cropping, nutrient
replacement and incursive weed control trials.  I have been
growing a market-garden organically on 2 acres of successive
plantings of various vegetable families for 8-10 years.  The soil
health, tilth and friability have been improved using macrobiotic
principles in feeding the soil and its organisms.  I am
self-certified.=20

Land Description: My farm is located in rural Sussex County, New
Jersey, on 10 acres. One-third of it is woodland; two-thirds is a
flat field of clay-loam soil.  All of it is under cultivation,
except my home and barn.  I grow 3,000 to 4,000 pine spruce for
Christmas tree sales.  I have a black walnut grove with a
one-fourth acre pond.  My fields are planted in vegetable crops
and flowers for cutting.  Tillage equipment includes rototillers,
a 9N Ford tractor, a two-row cultivator, a planter and a plow.=20


The SAN Directory of Expertise


On 26 Mar 1996, Vasilakes, Neil (MN10) wrote:

>=20
> Hello all,
>=20
> I am a new subscriber who is an avid gardener.   Is the volume of this li=
st=20
> really this low?  I've only received two messages in two weeks - maybe=20
> something is wrong with my e-mail?   My wife and I are soon to turn into=
=20
> organic fruit/ veg. farmers.   Although there are thousands of references=
 on=20
> organic gardening/farming, I can find nothing on no-till-organic farming=
=20
> other than Masanubu Fukuyoka (apologies for spelling by memory) which=20
> doesn't relate too well to my location in Minnesota, USA.   I'd like to f=
ind=20
> resources (human, electronic, or books) that have details of weed managem=
ent=20
> techniques, planting and germination, intercropping or companion planting=
=20
> for pest reduction etc. using no-till and organic techniques.   If anyone=
=20
> knows of resources I'd be grateful.  Also of interest to me are testimoni=
als=20
> from gardeners, farmers, researchers, as to the difficulties and success=
=20
> stories using no-till + organic techniques.
>=20
> What happened to spring???  It's -11=B0F here with a foot of snow.  Any g=
ood=20
> farms down south?:-)
>=20
> Neil Vasilakes
> Neil.Vasilakes@HBC.honeywell.com
>=20

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AFSIC has several publications on organic production, tillage, and 
sustainable agriculture.  See the list of products on the Web or the 
gopher, or e-mail (preferably) to be sent a hard copy.  

          Alternative Farming Systems Information Center

This and other similar publications (See the List of Information Products 
at any of these sites) are available free of charge from:

WWW:    http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/AgrEnv/AltFarm

  or    http://www.nal.usda.gov
  
          select Answers to Your Questions
          select Alternative Farming Systems Information Center

Gopher  gopher.nal.usda.gov
          select NAL Information Centers
          select Alternative Farming Systems Information Center


Orders for publications can be made by e-mail:   afsic@nal.usda.gov
                                       Phone :   (301) 504-6559
                                       FAX   :   (301) 504-6409

Snail-mail:

Alternative Farming Systems Information Center
National Agricultural Library
10301 Baltimore Boulevard
Beltsville, MD  20705-2351

There's a wealth of information available at these sites!

Andy Clark
SAN Coordinator
san@nal.usda.gov

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PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST TO OTHER APPROPRIATE NEWSGROUPS----THANKS! 
 
 
 -----------------BRING THE WORLD TO YOUR DOOR----------------------  
>  
MESA, a non-profit, USIA-designated international exchange organization, is
now interviewing U.S. sustainable/organic growers, ag. extension agents and
CSAs to host young international farmers seeking live/work positions on
your farm/facility for one full year (6 months placements are available
too). MESA's Russian, Lithuanian, Honduran and Guatemalan candidates are
agriculturally skilled and want to improve their knowledge in sustainable
practices, thus promoting eco-farming around the world.  
>  
We are seeking qualified hosts in the Western region of the U.S., but we'll
welcome inquiries from anywhere in the U.S. Host farms provide room, board
and a $675/month program fee (or $800/month w/room only). The program fee
enables MESA to provide our international farmers with $300/month stipends,
health insurance, educational seminars, J-1 visas, domestic travel and
administrative support. Host farms have no payroll taxes or legal
documentation concerns---plus a very reliable and enthusiastic individual
working full-time on the farm!   
 
We have just 3-4 more openings left for the 1996 program, and we must
secure placements for these international farmers ASAP!  If you would like
to receive specific information about any of our applicants, please email a
brief introduction with your full address and telephone #, or contact:   
>Lauren Augusta, Executive Director  
>MESA  
>5337 College Ave., ste. #508  
>Oakland, CA 94618  
>(510)654-8858  
>email: mesa@hooked.net  
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The best source for this information is your local USDA Resource
Conservation District Office. Look under US Government listings in phone
book.

I use to work for them out here in northern california.

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Masuoka Fukkuaka is one of my heros too. I haven't gotten too far with no
till. This is how far I've gotten tho

Here in N. CAL. I use comfrey between my peach trees down the row.
Probably not suitable for you. The idea tho is BROAD LEAFY GREENS. I got a
few rubarb that are doing pretty good too. I have planted swiss chard and
radish and they are ok to some extent. Not as good as the comfrey. I am
trying to keep the grass out of the orchard so sow things like beans,
peas, buckwheat, radish. I roto til and use the eye hoe alot. The trees
are only two years old (third summer).

I got my ideas on comfrey, iris, tulips, dividing onions, etc from the
permaculture book.

I welcome any further suggestions. One trap people need to avoid is that
when M. F. writes "do nothing farming" he doesn't mean you don't have to
work.


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Heathcote Community, an intentional community in Northern 
Maryland, will be hosting permaculture workshops 
on the following dates:

FREE Introduction to Permaculture
Monday, April 1, Friday, April 12, Friday, May 10, Friday, June 7
7 to 9 PM (donations accepted)

FREE Introduction to Permaculture
Saturday, May 18, Sunday, June 2
1 to 4 PM (donations accepted)

Patterning Intensive Workshop 
April 13-14
(sliding scale $100-160)

Design Course
July 6-20
($775, limited work exchange and tuition assistance available)
Includes vegetarian meals and lodging in bunk room or tent site
Pre-requisite: reading of Mollison and Slay's Intro to Permaculture


Care for children age five and up is available with prior notification at 
an additional cost. ASL interpretation or other special accomodations may be 
requested in advance.

For more information, please call (410) 343-DIRT

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Hello!

I am an admirer of permaculture, only just beginning to garden.

Wanting to utilize all the waste generated in my yard, I am
stumped with what to do about my dogs' wastes.

Materials I've read discourage one from using pet wastes in composts.

What is someone with pets to do with all this organic matter?

Sincerely,
Jane Sooby
Ag Tech II (Sustainable Ag)
High Plains Ag Lab
3257 Rd. 109
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Hi Folks,

Just a reminder that Bill Mollison (a founder of permaculture) will be
teaching a two week permaculture design course in north central Texas (50
miles southwest of Fort Worth, Texas) April 13 thru 26.  He's also
teaching an advanced course May 3 thru 5.  In short, permaculture is a
design system for sustainable living.

Drop us some e-mail if you are interested or take a peek at our web page,
http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/

Take care.

        KIRBY [@ Cross Timbers Permaculture Inst. 817-897-9402]

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         	   PERMACULTURE FAQ    Version 1.1 
                     February 1996 

*     The Permaculture FAQ is divided into three parts: 
      (1)  introduction to permaculture
      (2)  the practical application of permaculture
      (3)  permaculture resources 

*     This FAQ was drafted for the permaculture-mg list
	   (permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu) and can be found
      on the web at: 

        http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/faq.html
                        and 
        http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture.html


              INTRODUCTION TO PERMACULTURE 

The word "permaculture" was coined in 1978 by Bill Mollison, an
Australian ecologist, and his student, David Holmgren.  It is a
contraction of "permanent agriculture" or "permanent culture." 

Permaculture is about designing ecological human habitats and
food production systems.  It is an approach to land use which
integrates human dwellings, microclimate, annual and perennial
plants, animals, soils, and water management into stable,
productive communities.  

A central theme in permaculture is the design of ecological
landscapes that produce food.  Permaculture design concepts may
be applied to single households or whole farms and villages.  A
major emphasis is placed on use of food-producing plants and on
the integration of animals into the system. 

================================================================
Permaculture Defined:

1.   From Michael Pilarksi, founder of Friends of the Trees, and
     published in International Green Front Report (1988):  

     Permaculture is: the design of land use systems that are 
     sustainable and environmentally sound; the design of culturally 
     appropriate systems which lead to social stability; a design system 
     characterized by an integrated application of ecological principles 
     in land use; an international movement for land use planning and 
     design; an ethical system stressing positivism and cooperation.  

     In the broadest sense, permaculture refers to land use systems which 
     promote stability in society, utilize resources in a sustainable way 
     and preserve wildlife habitat and the genetic diversity of wild and 
     domestic plants and animals.  It is a synthesis of ecology and 
     geography, of observation and design.  Permaculture involves ethics of 
     earth care because the sustainable use of land cannot be separated 
     from life-styles and philosophical issues. 

2.   From Lee Barnes (editor of Katuah Journal and Permaculture Connections), 
     Waynesville, North Carolina:     

     Permaculture ("Perm"anent "agri"culture and "Perma"nent "culture") 
     is a sustainable design system stressing the harmonious 
     interrelationship of humans, plants, animals and the Earth. To 
     paraphrase the founder of Permaculture, designer Bill Mollison:  

          "Permaculture principles focus on thoughtful designs for small-
          scale intensive systems which are labor efficient and which use 
          biological resources instead of fossil fuels. Designs stress 
          ecological connections and closed energy and material loops.  The 
          core of permaculture is design and the working relationships and 
          connections between all things. Each component in a system performs 
          multiple functions, and each function is supported by many 
          elements.  Key to efficient design is observation and replication 
          of natural ecosystems, where designers maximize diversity with 
          polycultures, stress efficient energy planning for houses and 
          settlement, using and accelerating natural plant succession, and 
          increasing the highly productive "edge-zones" within the system."

     Permaculture designs have been successfully and widely implemented in
     third-world countries, but there is current need to expand these 
     principles in temperate climates, and especially urban areas to create 
     more enjoyable and sustainable human habitats.  
=======================================================================

                THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF PERMACULTURE                 

Permaculture is not limited to just plant and animal agriculture.  It also 
includes community planning and development, use of appropriate technologies 
(coupled with an adjustment of life-style), and adoption of concepts and 
philosophies that are both earth-based and people-centered, such as 
bio-regionalism.  Many of the appropriate technologies advocated by 
permaculturalists are well-known.  Among these are solar and wind power, 
composting toilets, and solar food cooking and drying. Information on 
appropriate technology and homesteading is available elsewhere. 

Due to the inherent sustainability of perennial cropping systems, permaculture 
places a heavy emphasis on tree crops.  Systems that integrate annual and 
perennial crops--such as alleycropping and agroforestry--take advantage of 
"the edge effect", increase biological diversity, and offer other 
characteristics missing in monoculture systems.  

Thus, multicropping systems that blend woody perennials and annuals hold
promise as viable techniques for large-scale farming.  Ecological methods of 
production for any specific crop or farming system are, of course, vital to 
permaculture and sustainable agriculture in general.

Since permaculture is not a production system, per se, but rather a land use 
planning philosophy, it is not limited to a specific method of production.  
Furthermore, as permaculture principles may be adapted to farms or villages 
worldwide, it is site specific and therefore amenable to locally adapted 
techniques of production.  

As an example, standard organic farming and gardening techniques utilizing 
cover crops, green manures, crop rotation, and mulches are emphasized in 
permacultural systems.  Yet, the use of the Keyline chisel plow, rotational 
grazing, the Aerway implement in no-till farming, and a whole number of other 
techniques are adaptable to farms working within a permacultural framework. 
The decision as to which "system" to go with is site-specific and management 
dependent.  

Farming systems and techniques commonly associated with permaculture include 
the Keyline method (soil and water management), rotational grazing, 
agroforestry, swales, contour plantings, hedgerows and windbreaks, and 
integrated farming systems such as aquaculture, intercropping, and polyculture.  
Gardening and recycling methods common to permaculture include edible 
landscaping, keyhole gardening, sheet mulching, chicken tractors, solar 
greenhouses, vermicomposting, spiral herb gardens, swales, and polyculture 
intercrops.  Water collection and management systems like greywater, rain 
catchment, and Keyline play an important role in land use designs.  

Permaculture is not about prescription farming, it's about designing 
ecological landscapes that integrate farming and other human activities into
ecosystems with minimal disturbance. Permaculture advocates farm ecology, not 
pharmacology.


                          PERMACULTURE RESOURCES 

The two basic sources of information on permaculture are permaculture design 
courses and permaculture literature. 

The permaculture design course is the primary vehicle for transfer of 
permaculture expertise. The standard course is 72-hours in length and lasts 
two weeks.  Graduates are issued a permaculture design certificate and are
entitled to use "Permaculture" in the pursuit of livelihood and for 
educational purposes. 

The permaculture literature is a rich source of information on a wide range 
of topics dealing with appropriate technology, water management, land use, 
energy-efficient and toxic-free housing, and plant and animal agriculture.   


                    Permaculture Resources in the U.S.

The Permaculture Activist
Box 1209
Black Mountain, NC  28711
(704) 683-4946
Editor: Peter Bane
Cost:  $16, quarterly

     The Permaculture Activist is the leading periodical for North American 
     permaculture.  In publishes articles on permaculture, edible landscaping, 
     bioregionalism, aquaculture, etc, and provides a current listing of
     upcoming permaculture design courses.  It serves as an important 
     networking tool in the U.S., Canada, and Central America.  Back issues 
     are still available.  
 
The International Permaculture Solutions Journal (TIPS) 
Yankee Permaculture/Elfin Permaculture, and 
Forest Ecosystem Rescue Network (FERN)
P.O. Box 672
Dahlonega, GA 30533-0672
Editor:  Dan Hemenway
Cost: $27.50, four issues

     The International Permaculture Solutions Journal (TIPS) is published on 
     an irregular basis, but is a rich source of information.  Prior to TIPS, 
     Yankee Permaculture put out a fantastic yearbook called The International       Permaculture Species Yearbook (TIPSY).  The TIPSY series is a goldmine
     of permaculture information; much of the information is still quite useful.     FERN publishes a permaculture newsletter called Robin that deals with 
     forest issues.  Yankee Permaculture also publishes The Resources of 
     International Permaculture - TRIP.  Volume 5 of TRIP, published in 1993, 
     is a 68-page issue that contains 1,540 listings of groups working in 
     permaculture, sustainable food systems, and tree-based agriculture.

Restoration Forestry
Friends of the Trees
P. O. Box 4469
Bellingham, WA   98227
(206) 738-4972
Editor:  Michael Pilarski

     Restoration Forestry (1994) is a 525-page guide to resources in restoration     forestry.  It contains over 50 review articles, 780 organizations, 
     230 journals/periodicals, 800 books, 100 restoration forestry projects
     underway, and 100 directories on topics relating to restoration forestry, 
     forest ecology, tree seedlings, bioregionalism, and permaculture.  It is 
     a massive addition to tree-based agricultural literature.  Friends of
     the Trees Society also publishes a newsletter, West Coast Permaculture 
     News & Gossip.  

     Other publications from Friends of the Trees include the International 
     Green Front Report (1988, $7.00), Kiwifruit Enthusiasts Journal (Vol. 6, 
     $17.20) and Third World Resources (1993, $5.00).

Permaculture Drylands Journal
Permaculture Drylands Institute
P.O. Box 156
Santa Fe, NM  87504-0156
(505) 983-0663
Cost: $25, 3 issues per year 

     Permaculture Drylands Journal (formerly Sustainable Living in Drylands) 
     is published in April, August, and December by the Permaculture Drylands 
     Education and Research Institute.  It focuses on permaculture
     concepts and designs for arid lands, with a heavy focus on New Mexico and 
     Arizona.  PDJ has published articles on straw bale buildings, solar box 
     cookers, dryland farming, and much more; back issues are available.  
     PDI offers a regular series of Permaculture Design Courses.   

Temperate Bamboo Quarterly
Earth Advocates Research Facility
30 Myers Road
Summertown, TN  38483 
(615) 964-4151
Cost:  $24, quarterly 

     Temperate Bamboo Quarterly is a quarterly publication from Earth Advocates,     a permaculture team run by Sue and Adam Turtle.  It focuses on the 
     bamboo plant which has unique, multi-purpose uses.  They also operate 
     a nursery with dozens of bamboo species.      

Permaculture Resources
P.O. Box 65
56 Farmersville Rd
Califon, N.J.  07830
(800) 832-6285

     Educational publisher and distributor of permaculture resources and 
     publications.


                    Permaculture Resources in Australia

Permaculture International Journal 
Permaculture International Ltd.
P.O. Box PG6039 
South Lismore, NSW  2480
Australia
Phone:  (066) 220 020
International:  (066) 220 579
Cost: U.S. $24, quarterly (available in the U.S. through 
The Permaculture Activist)

     PIJ serves as the leading periodical for permaculture worldwide.  It 
     contains articles, book reviews, and news of permacultural events 
     around the world.  It serves as an important networking tool.  
     Back issues to the early 1980s are available.

The Permaculture Edge
Permaculture Nambour, Inc. 
P.O. Box 148 
Inglewood 6050 
Western Australia
Cost: U.S. $20, quarterly (available in the U.S. through 
The Permaculture Activist) 

     The Permaculture Edge aims to report activities that are seen to be 
     at the cutting edge of permaculture developments around the world.  
     The "permaculture edge" refers to the "edge effect" found at the 
     boundaries of two ecological systems where there is more synergism, 
     biological activity, and variations in the microenvironment and which 
     can be used to increase yields in designed systems.  It also points to
     permaculture ideas as being "at the edge" of a change in the push towards 
     a sustainable future. 

Permaculture Institute
P.O. Box 1
Tyalgum, NSW  2484
Australia
Phone:  (066) 793 442

     The Permaculture Institute in Tyalgum, Australia, serves as the 
     coordinating organization for permaculture activities such as 
     permaculture design accreditation.


                  Permaculture Resources Around the World

Permaculture Magazine: Solutions for Sustainable Living
Permaculture Association (Britain)
Permanent Publications
Hyden House Limited
Little Hyden Lane
Clandfield, Hampshire  PO8 ORU
England
Cost:  U.S. $24, quarterly

     A quarterly journal published in cooperation with the Permaculture 
     Association of Great Britain.  It contains articles, projects, books, 
     and solutions from Britain and worldwide.

GroundCover
Permaculture Association of Zimbabwe
Box CY 301
Causeway, Harare 
Zimbabwe
Telephone/Fax:  (+4) 726911
Cost:  U.S. $30, per year


                     KEY BOOKS ON PERMACULTURE

INTRODUCTION TO PERMACULTURE by Bill Mollison and Reny Mia Slay.  1991.  
Tagari Publishers, Tyalgum, Australia.  198 p. 

PERMACULTURE ONE: A PERENNIAL AGRICULTURE FOR HUMAN SETTLEMENTS,
3rd ed (Reprint of 1978 ed) by Bill Mollison and David Holmgren.  1987.  
Tagari Publishers, Tyalgum, New South Wales, Australia.  127 p. 

PERMACULTURE TWO: A PRACTICAL DESIGN FOR TOWN AND COUNTRY IN
PERMANENT AGRICULTURE by Bill Mollison.  1979.  Tagari Press, Stanley, 
Australia. 150 p. 

PERMACULTURE: A DESIGNER'S MANUAL by Bill Mollison.  1988.  Tagari
Publications, Tyalgum, Australia.  576 p.   

THE BEST OF PERMACULTURE by Max O. Lindegger and Robert Tap.  1986.
Nascimanere Publishers, Nambour, Australia.  136 p. 

THE PERMACULTURE WAY: PRACTICAL WAYS TO CREATE A SELF-SUSTAINING
WORLD by Graham Bell.  1992.  Thorsons, London.  239 p. 

THE PERMACULTURE GARDEN by Graham Bell.  1994.  Thorsons, London.  170 p.

URBAN PERMACULTURE by David Watkins.  1993.  Permanent Publications, U.K.  
152 p.

PERMACULTURE IN A NUTSHELL by Patrick Whitefield.  1993.  Permanent 
Publications, U.K.  75 p. 

EARTH USER'S GUIDE TO PERMACULTURE by Rosemary Morrow and Rob Allsop 
1994.  Kangaroo Press, Kenthurst, NSW Australia.  152 p. 

GETTING STARTED IN PERMACULTURE by Ross and Jennifer Mars.  1995.  Candlelight
Trust, Hovea, Western Australia.  60 p. 


         A Few Good Books for the Permaculturist's Bookshelf

CORNUCOPIA: A SOURCE BOOK OF EDIBLE PLANTS by Stephen Facciola. 1990. 
Kampong Publications, Vista, CA.  678 p. 

DESIGNING & MAINTAINING YOUR EDIBLE LANDSCAPE NATURALLY by Robert
Kourick.  1986.  Metamorphic Press, Santa Rosa, CA.  370 p. 

TREE CROPS: A PERMANENT AGRICULTURE by J. Russell Smith.  1987. Island Press,
Washington, D.C.  408 p.  

THE PERMACULTURE BOOK OF FERMENT & HUMAN NUTRITION by Bill Mollison. 
1993.  Tagari Publications, Tyalgum, Australia.  288 p.  


          ELECTRONIC SOURCES OF PERMACULTURE INFORMATION

1.   Permaculture-mg Internet Discussion List

         permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu

2.   Permaculture at Communications for a Sustainable Future

         http://csf.colorado.edu:8080/

3.   Organic Gardening & Permaculture Information

         http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/The_Sustainable_Farmstead.html
         http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture.html

4.   Permaculture Global Assistance Network

         http://www.peg.apc.org/~pgan

5.   Permaculture International Journal

         Email:  pcjournal@peg.apc.org

6.   Cross Timbers Permaculture Institute
     
         http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/

         Email:  7539.1353@compuserve.com

7.   Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute

         Email:  103070.2354@compuserve.com

8.   Correspondence Course in Australia on Permaculture

         http://www.qldnet.com.au/acs

9.   Permaculture List in Australia

         perma@cessysv.eepo.dialix.oz.au

10.  Dwayne's Home Page at Latrobe

         http://www.latrobe.edu.au/nexus/Permaculture/permaculture.html

11.  Amy's Home Page with Permaculture Material

         http://wwwpub.utdallas.edu/~amyd/index.html
     
12.  Carmela's Home Page with Permaculture Material

         http://www.ozoline.com.au/permaculture/index.html

13.  The Tree House

         http://www.charm.net/~flora/>

14.  Plants for a Future On-Line

         http://www.liv.ac.uk/~rmorris/pfaf/index.html

15.  Permaculture FAQ on the Web

         http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/faq.html
         http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture.html


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Subject: PC Europe pages?
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Hi,

I'd like to know if there are any PC-pages for Europeans (Maybe in the
Uk?). We do have other needs here and workshops are mostly more usefull, if
they fit for temperate climate.

Maybe I start a PC-Page soon (if there is one for Europe I will do this
only in german language, otherwise I would like to help to build one for
europeans). Who likes to contribute?


BTW: There is still the one world net newsgroups under own.*
own.eco.permaculture and own.eco.lets. They should be available via MAZ and
UUnet. But they are empty. Use them for your needs! (if you get them)

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Heathcote Community, an intentional community in Northern 
Maryland, will be hosting permaculture workshops 
on the following dates:

FREE Introduction to Permaculture
Monday, April 1, Friday, April 12, Friday, May 10, Friday, June 7
7 to 9 PM (donations accepted)

FREE Introduction to Permaculture
Saturday, May 18, Sunday, June 2
1 to 4 PM (donations accepted)

Patterning Intensive Workshop 
April 13-14
(sliding scale $100-160)

Design Course
July 6-20
($775, limited work exchange and tuition assistance available)
Includes vegetarian meals and lodging in bunk room or tent site
Pre-requisite: reading of Mollison and Slay's Intro to Permaculture


Care for children age five and up is available with prior notification at 
an additional cost. ASL interpretation or other special accomodations may 
be 
requested in advance.

For more information, please call (410) 343-DIRT.

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interested in organic gardening biodynamic gardening organic gardening

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copied off your pages from the net about permaculture.  am putting together
a business plan to develope a place  where the restorative principles used
in the land i have found would also be the basis of the principles of
soulful restoration for the individual.  am being besieged with interest
and looking for like-minded investors that might want to be involved
financially.  would you be interested in helping me with information?
i am in dallas and this project is one of spirit that i am trying to
sheperd.  would appreciate any and all help you could provide.
thanks...
vikiann gunter
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I am trying to gather as much info as posible on raising earthworms.  I am not
having very much luck.  I would be thankful for anything anyone might have or of
any sources anyone may know of.
Thanks,
W. Guiness

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Announcement of Electronic Seminar
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Title:        A MODEL FOR FUTURE MICROBIAL PROCESS SYSTEMS AS A CLEAN
               ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNOLOGY FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT
By:          Prof. Emeritus Horst Doelle, MIRCEN-Biotechnology Pacific
               Regional Network
Date:      1-17 May 1996
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Abstract

Any technological development is aimed at improving the quality of life
of a community of people. Bioresource utilisation programmes are the
best systems to combat malnutrition and starvation and, if coupled with
waste utilisation and treatment could lead to high public health
standards. MULTIPLE goal or INTEGRATED system development can also lead
to employment in villages and higher living standards, avoiding the
trend of increasing urbanisation. Although the creation of wealth
through biotechnology firmly places the discipline within the industrial
sector, it is the farmer who supplies the raw material and MUST
participate in the wealth creation to secure the supply. A model for
future microbial process systems is being developed which secures a
clean environment during sustainable development. It not only keeps the
environment clean, it also takes care of soil fertility, food, feed
problems and bionergy supply.

About the Author:
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Prof. Emeritus Horst Doelle received his basic degree in microbiology
from the University of Jena and Dr.rer.nat. from the University of
Gottingen in Germany in microbiology [major], botany and organic
chemistry. His research in fermentation technology led to the award of a
D.Sc. in 1976 by the University of Queensland in Brisbane, Australia.
After 28 years teaching in the Department of Microbiology he retired in
October 1992 and devoted his time ever since to the teaching of
environmentally clean fermentation technologies in the developing
countries. In 1975 Prof. Doelle co-founded the Australian Biotechnology
movement in Australia and was elected to the Executive of the
International Organisation of Biotechnology and Bioengineering in 1980,
became Chairman-elect in 1992 and will assume chairmanship in 1996.
Since 1975 he has been heavily involved in Unesco training course
activities and since 1987 he has been Director of MIRCEN
[Microbiological Resources Centre]-Biotechnology Brisbane and since 1989
of the MIRCEN-Pacific Regional Network. His main teaching activities are
concerned with integrated fermentation technologies and microbial
process development for sustainable development in the areas of socio-
ecological as well as socio-economical biotechnology.

How to Participate
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This electronic seminar will use the Listserv electronic
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Seminar Material
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The seminar paper will be available via the list in May.


For personal assistance, please email foo@hq.unu.edu

From: Mr. Eng-Leong Foo, Institute for Advanced Studies,
c/o UNU-HQ 10 Floor, United Nations University,
Tokyo, Fax: +81-3-3499-2828

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Hello from Burra, South Australia, where we are getting a permaculture-designed
village underway in dry sheep and wheat country.  I'm just discovering this list from
my pegasus email base, and will write more later.

Ian Lillington

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new book release--------->

BAMBOO IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST

On June 24-25, 1994 one hundred bamboo professionals and enthusiasts
gathered in Gold Beach, Oregon to focus on the future of the fledgling
bamboo industry in the Pacific Northwest. The two days that followed were
loaded with the intensity only "bambuseros" (a word coined for American
bamboo lovers) can achieve when brought together in large groups to
exchange knowledge. Those who attended gained new understanding about the
process of developing bamboo as a agro-forestry crop for our region.

The active group listened to a day of presentations by a series of
speakers. The next day, a work session of bamboo specialists and interested
people moderated by local host, Gib Cooper,  produced  a list of seven
attainable goals for  developing the the bamboo industry in the Pacific
Northwest. One of the goals was to compile the presentations and work
session into a book.

BAMBOO IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST is the result of Gib Cooper's editing seven
manuscripts  and the work session. The book (and workshop) is the first in
a series of attempts to organize and quantify the business of bamboo
production, product development and marketing. The ninety pages discuss
paper pulp development, bamboo history and ecology, bamboo on the farm,
results of bamboo in permaculture plantings, timber bamboo pole production,
and include an interesting article on developing a bamboo plantation in
Vietnam. In addition to providing a summary of the workshop, the editor
updates progress of the goals since 1994. Also included is a list of
participating organizations and individuals.

Sales of the book will aid in funding the 1997  Pacific Northwest Bamboo
Agro-forestry Workshop scheduled for June 21-22, 1997 at Centralia College
in Washington state. The workshop is actively supported by the Pacific
Northwest Chapter of the American Bamboo Society (PNC-ABS).

BAMBOO IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST is now available. To have a copy shipped to
you in the USA send a check made out to PNC-ABS for $18. Mail the check to
PNW Bamboo Workshop, 28446 Hunter Creek Loop, Gold Beach, OR 97444. Copies
of the book can also be purchased for $15 at meetings and events of the
PNC-ABS. Contact Dean Hines, 15211 -91st Ave. SE, Snohomish, WA 98290 for
information about joining the society. Dues are $10 a year. The PNC-ABS is
the largest regional chapter of the American Bamboo Society.


  /H\\H                             H                               //H
   H /H \  Gib Cooper               H\   Voice/Fax: 541-247-0835     /H\\H \
  /H  H  Tradewinds Bamboo Nursery /H    bambugib@harborside.com    / H HH  H\
   H\\H\  28446 Hunter Creek Loop   H \                             H\H\HH\ H
   H /H\   Gold Beach, OR 97444     H                              /H H HH  H
  /H\HH \\               http://harborside.com/bamboo/              H H HH\\H\
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THE BIG ISLAND BAMBOO CONFERENCE & TRADE SHOW
When:  May 24-26, 1996
Where:  University of Hawaii at Hilo

Keynote Speaker:  Dr. Edward F. Anderson, "Nature's All-Purpose 
Provider"  Dr. Anderson's illustrated talk will show how bamboo totally 
pervades the lives of the hill tribes of Northern Thailand.  Anderson 
will demonstrate how bamboo is a crucial element in the everyday lives of 
the mountain people, providing not only nourishment for their bodies and 
souls, but serving in numerous ways that contribute to their overall 
survival.

Other Speakers:
Robert Tornello, Owner and President of Tornello Nursery which is the 
largest containerized bamboo source in the U.S.  He will speak on 
"Methods of Propagation" and "Bamboo as a Landscape Element."

Charupant Thongtham, A Director of the Royal Institute for Agricultural 
Development in Thailand.  He will speak on "Bamboo Farming Techniques:  
The Thai Example."

Simon Velez, Professor of Architecture at the Univ. of the Andes, Bogata 
Colombia, Velez is recognized for his innovative structures of "great 
beauty and boldness."  Velez has built more than 40 bamboo structures 
ranging from residential projects to shopping arcades.  Velez will 
demonstrate, through workshops, and presentations, various construction 
techniques.  He will discuss some of his largest structures including the 
clubhouse for a new 2,500 unit housing project which he designed in Colombia.

Oscar Hidalgo Lopez.  Director of the Centro Interamericano del 
bambu-CINBA, Hidalgo is also the famed author of numerous books on bamboo 
construction.  He is internationally known for his efforts to educate 
people about the multiple uses of bamboo in construction.  Hidalgo's 
works will be discussed in depth and he will also be conducting intensive 
workshops on construction and building after the conference.

Doug Lingen.  Known as the "Bamboosmith,"  Mr. Lingen will demonstrate 
bamboo joinery and construction techniques in his workshops and 
presentations.

Dr. George Shor.  President American Bamboo Society & founding member of 
the Southern California ABS.  He will present the "Welcome Address" at 
the Opening Reception.

For More information, call 808 933-3555, FAX 808 933-3684 or e-mail 
<foxgolds@hawaii.edu>

On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Gib Cooper wrote:

> new book release--------->
> 
> BAMBOO IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST
> 
> On June 24-25, 1994 one hundred bamboo professionals and enthusiasts
> gathered in Gold Beach, Oregon to focus on the future of the fledgling
> bamboo industry in the Pacific Northwest. The two days that followed were
> loaded with the intensity only "bambuseros" (a word coined for American
> bamboo lovers) can achieve when brought together in large groups to
> exchange knowledge. Those who attended gained new understanding about the
> process of developing bamboo as a agro-forestry crop for our region.
> 
> The active group listened to a day of presentations by a series of
> speakers. The next day, a work session of bamboo specialists and interested
> people moderated by local host, Gib Cooper,  produced  a list of seven
> attainable goals for  developing the the bamboo industry in the Pacific
> Northwest. One of the goals was to compile the presentations and work
> session into a book.
> 
> BAMBOO IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST is the result of Gib Cooper's editing seven
> manuscripts  and the work session. The book (and workshop) is the first in
> a series of attempts to organize and quantify the business of bamboo
> production, product development and marketing. The ninety pages discuss
> paper pulp development, bamboo history and ecology, bamboo on the farm,
> results of bamboo in permaculture plantings, timber bamboo pole production,
> and include an interesting article on developing a bamboo plantation in
> Vietnam. In addition to providing a summary of the workshop, the editor
> updates progress of the goals since 1994. Also included is a list of
> participating organizations and individuals.
> 
> Sales of the book will aid in funding the 1997  Pacific Northwest Bamboo
> Agro-forestry Workshop scheduled for June 21-22, 1997 at Centralia College
> in Washington state. The workshop is actively supported by the Pacific
> Northwest Chapter of the American Bamboo Society (PNC-ABS).
> 
> BAMBOO IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST is now available. To have a copy shipped to
> you in the USA send a check made out to PNC-ABS for $18. Mail the check to
> PNW Bamboo Workshop, 28446 Hunter Creek Loop, Gold Beach, OR 97444. Copies
> of the book can also be purchased for $15 at meetings and events of the
> PNC-ABS. Contact Dean Hines, 15211 -91st Ave. SE, Snohomish, WA 98290 for
> information about joining the society. Dues are $10 a year. The PNC-ABS is
> the largest regional chapter of the American Bamboo Society.
> 
> 
>   /H\\H                             H                               //H
>    H /H \  Gib Cooper               H\   Voice/Fax: 541-247-0835     /H\\H \
>   /H  H  Tradewinds Bamboo Nursery /H    bambugib@harborside.com    / H HH  H\
>    H\\H\  28446 Hunter Creek Loop   H \                             H\H\HH\ H
>    H /H\   Gold Beach, OR 97444     H                              /H H HH  H
>   /H\HH \\               http://harborside.com/bamboo/              H H HH\\H\
>    H HH                                                          // H H HH /H
>      H                                                                H H
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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To: Thilo.Pfennig@kiel.netsurf.de (Thilo Pfennig)
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From:          Thilo.Pfennig@kiel.netsurf.de (Thilo Pfennig)
Subject:       PC Europe pages?
Thilo,

I'd like to know if there are any PC-pages for Europeans (Maybe in the
Uk?). We do have other needs here and workshops are mostly more usefull, if
they fit for temperate climate.

I was also wondering about this. The Permaculture web pages I know 
of,  and this discussion list, are very US and Australia oriented, 
and while very interesting are not so relevant for the specific 
needs of Permaculture in Europe. We want to know about accessible
courses and workshops, too.

Maybe I start a PC-Page soon (if there is one for Europe I will do this
only in german language, otherwise I would like to help to build one for
europeans). Who likes to contribute?

I'm actually living in Ireland, where there is now quite a lot of interest in
 permaculture and alternative lifestyles but very little coordination 
of activities and resources at the moment. We have no relevant Web 
pages that I know of. I have been lurking on this list (and on the 
Organic Gardening List) for a while - I am not yet actively practising
permaculture but have plans to make some major changes to my life, 
including leaving my present job in Dublin and moving to a rural 
area, where I want to get really involved in permaculture.
 I don't have my own computer at the moment, but hope to do 
something about this soon. In due course I would be very happy to be 
involved with setting up a Web site for Irish Permaculture / 
Alternative lifestyles to integrate with any future European site.

Good luck, Thilo.

Helen


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From: Paul Clark <prc@sysmag.com>
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Helen Witts wrote:
> I'd like to know if there are any PC-pages for Europeans (Maybe in the
> Uk?). We do have other needs here and workshops are mostly more usefull, if
> they fit for temperate climate.
> 
> I was also wondering about this. The Permaculture web pages I know
> of,  and this discussion list, are very US and Australia oriented,
> and while very interesting are not so relevant for the specific
> needs of Permaculture in Europe. We want to know about accessible
> courses and workshops, too.

I'm in the process of setting up a UK-oriented web site at:

http://www.sysmag.com/permaweb

The UK Permaculture Association are in the process of creating some
pages for this, and I'm starting on the long task of providing some
real information.  I'd like eventually to include full course
materials, but most of the site is empty space at the moment, 
I'm afraid.

If anyone has course materials in machine-readable text form or 
bitmap pictures that I could use, please let me know

Thanks

Paul
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From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <london@SunSITE.unc.edu>
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:
Lawrence F. London, Jr., Venaura Farm, Chapel Hill, NC USA 
london@sunSITE.unc.edu - http://sunSITE.unc.edu/london
london@mercury.interpath.net - http://www.interpath.net/~london 
http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/Elsewhere.html - Links Page
Organic Gardening, CSA, Permaculture & Renewable Energy Information
:

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Date: 3 Apr 1996 06:01:41 GMT
From: David Galloway <chamgal@griffin.bis.net.au>
To: sustag-public@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: Species database

Hello

I am looking for a computer database of permaculture species which 
describes desirable soil types, climatic conditions etc etc which suit 
each species.

Does any one know of such databases - particularlly for a Mac computer

Please email a reply to David Galloway <chamgal@griffin.bis.net.au>

Thanks 


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From: steved@ncatfyv.uark.edu (Steve Diver)
Subject: Internet sites in Permaculture FAQ 1.2
To: permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:15:32 -0600 (CST)
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Permaculture-MG readers, 

The Permaculture FAQ, Version 1.2 is almost ready 
for posting on the Web.  

Please take a look at the following list and let me 
know if you have any suggestions for other sites.  

I have deleted several sites since Version 1.1 and 
have also added several new sites.     

Can anybody tell me if the Perma List in Australia
(see #2) is active and how to subscribe?  
(majordomo, listserv, listproc?) 

Steve Diver
steved@ncatfyv.uark.edu

 
Electronic Sources of Permaculture Information

1.   Permaculture-mg Internet Discussion List in the United
     States

          permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
          
          To subscribe, send email to:
          "almanac@ces.ncsu.edu"

2.   Permaculture Discussion List in Australia

          perma@cessysv.eepo.dialix.oz.au

3.   Permaculture International

          http://nornet.nor.com.au/environment/perma/
          Email:  pcjournal@peg.apc.org

4.   British Permaculture Magazine/Permanent Publications Home
     Page

          http://www.uea.ac.uk/~e415/home.html

5.   Organic Gardening & Permaculture Information 

     http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/The_Sustainable_Farmstead.html
          http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture.html
          Email: london@sunsite.unc.edu

6.   Permaculture at Communications for a Sustainable Future

          http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/
          http://csf.colorado.edu:8080/

7.   Permaculture Global Assistance Network

          http://www.peg.apc.org/~pgan

8.   Correspondence Course in Australia on Permaculture

          http://www.qldnet.com.au/acs

9.   PermaWeb

          http://www.sysmag.com/permaweb/index.html

10.  Bay Area Permaculture Group Web Page

          http://www.nbn.com/people/bagp/

11.  Permaculture Institute of Northern California
          
          http://www.nbn.com/people/bagp/pinc.html

12.  Permaculture in Western Australia

          http://www.eepo.com.au/perma/

13.  Permaculture in South Australia - "What's Happening in
     Permaculture"

          http://dove.mtx.net.au/%7Esteveo/wotsnu.html

14.  Permaculture on "MindBodySpirit" Web Page

          http://www.pix.za/mbs/body/perma.htm

15.  Friends of the Trees
          
          http://www.pacificrim.net/~trees/

16.  Cross Timbers Permaculture Institute in Texas
     
          http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/
          Email:  7539.1353@compuserve.com

17.  Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute

          Email:  103070.2354@compuserve.com

18.  Carmela's Home Page with Permaculture Material

          http://www.ozoline.com.au/permaculture/index.html

19.  Plants for a Future On-Line

          http://www.liv.ac.uk/~rmorris/pfaf/index.html

20.  Ecovillage Information Service

          http://www.gaia.org/

21.  Permaculture FAQ on the Web 

          http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/faq.html
          http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture.faq.v1.1



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> Date: 3 Apr 1996 06:01:41 GMT
> From: David Galloway <chamgal@griffin.bis.net.au>
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> 
> Hello
> 
> I am looking for a computer database...<snip>
> 
> Please email a reply to David Galloway <chamgal@griffin.bis.net.au>

Please post the replies you may receive. I for one would be very interested 
in knowing the answer. Many thanks...

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> Date: 3 Apr 1996 06:01:41 GMT
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> 
> Hello
> 
> I am looking for a computer database...<snip>
> 
> Please email a reply to David Galloway <chamgal@griffin.bis.net.au>

Please post the replies you may receive. I for one would be very interested 
in knowing the answer. Many thanks...


                         Steve Lever
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I probably am more familiar with the industrial uses of hemp
than a lot of folks because of my association with local persons
who have been networking hemp uses worldwide for years.
I do not have time at this moment to visit all the following sites
to tell you the VERY BEST ONES.
I have collected these on I-net in the last few mos.
- here they are - certainly not the complete list! 
(in case these do not get included in FAQ, those interested in
this unique plant can store them).
HEMP HAS ARISEN! (in some nations more than others)

Pls. note: A couple of thes sites may be more slanted toward marijuana
with THC rather than hemp with only l/2 of one percent THC. Forgive me,
but it is difficult to separate the two in the minds of the public,
and some of these sites may cover both issues.

Until the federal government learns to differentiate ROPE from DOPE
-we all suffer: because hemp cement (isochanvre in France),
medium density fiberboard (researched in WA and Eastern countries),
hemp for fiber - pellets, paper, fuel, oil, clothes are available
and 30 countries have already legalized industrial hemp. U.S.
uses an inordinate amount of the world*s non-renewable resources,
yet has not provided the leadership to pioneer
HEMP FOR VICTORY for the last 50 years.

Therefore - forests, species and habits continue to suffer because
of the ignorance of the people, the manipulation by trans-national
conglomerates, media and greedy politicians.(ET for PRES anyone?!
There is some possibility that because we humans have failed in
the care of GAIA that our space bros may beam in....Anyone else
have any arcane observations about what the 50% decline in sperm
count in last 50 years is leading to? I hear that possiby
another 30-50 years may mean the total sterility of our species?)
Betty Andreasson Luca interviewed in a recent Art Bell radio
talk show said that a group of ETs called the WATCHERS told her
that man would be sterile in the near future because of humanity*s
use of toxins including nuclear power and wastes generated therefrom.

Has anyone heard the rumor or fact that Colorado has recently
approved growing 5 acres for industrial hemp purposes??

EACH ENTRY SEPARATED BY (**)

<http://www.xs4all.nl/~homegrow>
 **
From: International Hemp Association,"iha"  <iha@mail.euronet.nl>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 
The International Hemp Association (IHA) is a non-profit
membership-supported and volunteer staffed organization based in
Amsterdam, the Netherlands. Our peer reviewed journal, the Journal of the 
International Hemp Association (JIHA), is published twice a year. A one 
year membership includes two volumes of the JIHA.

For membership info contact:
membership iha@euronet.nl or FAX: 31 20 618-8758
Postbus 75007,1070 AA Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Annual membership fees 
are $ 25,50,100+, for Students, Individuals, or   Sustaining members, 
respectively.  Students please supply proof of student
status. Business/sustaining members  will be listed under their business 
name in the IHA membership directory.

  The IHA sponsors an annual grant of humanitarian aid to the Vavilov
  Research Institute (VIR) in St.Petersburg, Russia to save the worlds
  largest Cannabis germplasm collection, almost 400 varieties! We were
  successful in 1993 and 1994 and 1995, the work for 1996 is almost
  ready to begin. We plan to complete the seed reproductions and
  evaluate the collection in 1996 if funding allows.
  Estimated cost will be $20,000. for 1996.

  Funding is still required for the final $5,000 payment of the 1995
  work. The IHA is actively seeking contributors to support the vital
  preservation work ongoing at the VIR. Seeds are a perishable and
  irreplaceable heritage and the Cannabis varieties in the VIR
  collection will surely die without your help.  Such a small price
  to pay for the preservation of our genetic future!

  The year 1995 was a good year for hemp and the IHA/JIHA, highlights
  include: Helping with the Bio-Resourse Hemp Symposium in Franfurt,
  March 95,attending about 10 Eco-fairs, ( Italy, Spain, 3 Holland,
  Finland, 2 USA, Australia), to explain about Hemp and the IHA/JIHA.

  Sending seeds to researchers worldwide, including the first
  cultivation of hemp in Finland and S Africa for decades! Also
  cooperation with both CCIHD, in Colorado. and NAIHF, in Wisconsin
  in their ongoing efforts toallow legal cultivation of hemp in the
  USA. And certainly not last, the IHA supplied info to Govts.  
backrounds and performance data, with prices, availability,
  and address where to order them.( the IHA will have most of these
  varieties available in small, less than 5 kg.amounts).
 
 The June issue promises to be even bigger and better. Join the IHA
  and help support Hemp. You can read articles from the 1994 JIHA
  Vol.1 #1, and  Vol.1#2, at:
  URL:http://www.calyx.com/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/iha.html
  and E-mail to us from the page!!
**
From: HEMPHATS <hemphats@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.hemp
Subject: Re: Industrial hemp

>the case is any one out there interested in talking about the industrial,
>agricultural, environmental aspects of hemp as a crop? Thanks Danielle

http://headcase.com will have an industrial hemp live chat room beginning
in April for just that purpose.

Mitch Cahn
Headcase
**
Date: Thu, 29 FEB 1996 
From: Inst for Hemp <insthemp@winternet.com>
Subject: Vermont House Passes Bill To allow Hemp Farming

Vermont House Passes Bill To Legalize Marijuana for Industrial Use

Feb 27, 1996
In a precedent setting decision the House of Representatives for the 
state of Vermont has overwhelmingly passed a bill which will legalize the 
use of Marijuana for non-drug related industrial applications.

The bill was introduced by the Commissioner of Agriculture and passed 
with a vote of 108 to 33.
The purpose of the legislation is to put in place a regulatory process so 
that the Vermont Department of Agriculture and the US Drug Enforcement 
Agency can regulate the growing of Cannabis for industrial use.  This 
regulatory process will allow farmers to legally purchase seed from the 
Vermont Dept. of Agriculture and plant and grow Cannabis Hemp which has a 
drug content below 1%.

The bill still must clear the Senate side of the Vermont legislature but 
passage is expected by Mid March or early April 1996.

If passed this bill will stand as a model for other states which desire
the ability to grow Cannabis for industrial uses.

It is uncertain if the Governor of Vermont will sign the bill.

 ------------------This message is brought to you by:-----------------    --
 --   e-mail: insthemp@winternet.com     Phone/Fax  612-222-2628      --
 --     The Institute for Hemp   PO Box 65130 St Paul, MN  55165       
--  Since 1989 Providing Accurate Info About Hemps Commercial Uses   --
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
 --              THREE SITES ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB                    --
 -- OUR HOME SITE IS http://www.winternet.com/~insthemp/              --
 --         OR YOU CAN TRY ONE OF OUR MIRROR SITES                    --
 --         http://hemp.org/INSTHEMP/                                 --
 --        http://fornits.com/curiosity/insthemp/                     --
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
 -- "Make the Most of the Hemp Seed, Sow it Everywhere" G.Washington  --
 --   "Without a doubt, Hemp will continue to be one of the Staple    --
 --   Agricultural Crops in the United States" L.Dewey, USDA, 1916    --
-HEMP-FOR-VICTORY
**
Subject: Need Seeds? Aloha Website
Check out
        http://www.xs4all.nl/~homegrow
These are the Best Dutch Seeds and from a 100% biologically pure &
outdoor seedbank!
**
Date: Wed, 20 DEC 1995 From: Darral Good <bc616@scn.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: hempfest

   Linkname: FIFTH ANNUAL SEATTLE HEMPFEST
        URL: http://www.blarg.com/~turmoil/hempfest.html
**
From: Kathy Ging <kging@efn.org>
To: Sara Francis <skfranci@is.dal.ca>
Subject: RE:Industrial Hemp Data Needed for Thesis

orgsque@pond.net is the e-mail of David Seber in Oregon,
who may be able to direct you to some other resources. He has worked in
networking the r & d aspect of medium
density fiberboard from hemp and other plants for a few years.
He recommended this web page- hemptech.com (you probably have to add the 
http etc.language to access it).
**
http://www.calyx.com/~olsen/NORML/WEEKLY/96-02-08.html

<BASE HREF="http://www.calyx.com/~olsen/NORML/WEEKLY/96-02-08.html">
"http://norml.myhouse.com/">http://norml.myhouse.com/</A>
... a weekly service for the media on news items related to
Marijuana Prohibition.
**
that of the DEA. Even local television news reports dealing with the
.testimony  jokingly disseminated the information in a manner that smacked
of politically correct journalism. The DEA position was the central part of
any newscast. "What the news casts didn't tell you," Maslack said, "was the
VT DEA representative may be guilty of infractions of the Hatch Act."
Maslack was referring to the law that limits federal employees from
lobbying for special interests.
At issue is a letter from DEA agent James J. Bradley sent to House Speaker
Michael Obuchowski, dated January 26, 1996 and sent on United States
Department of Justice letterhead stationary and was an obvious attempt to
ygo over the .heads of the committee.  The letter identifies James J.
Bradley as the "one" charged with enforcement of the Federal Controlled
Substance Act (CSA) in Vermont. He acknowledged that he was writing the
letter in opposition of the possible legalizing of industrial hemp and that
he was made aware of it from a Burlington Free Press article. Upon
questioning in committee, Maslack asserts, "he admitted no one told him to
send the letter and that a secretary did not type it for him," he said.
Maslack has forwarded the letter and the issue to the federal prosecutors
office for further action, if any.
The letter praised the farmers of the state while chastising those who are
pushing this agenda. The letter sounded like a rallying call for the war on
drugs as it said "...this effort to convince State Representatives and
farmers that hemp would solve their problems is another smoke screen in the
never ending battle by marijuana activists to legalize the drug. The letter
went on to say Vermont is not the only state to be lobbied "....
California, Oregon, Kentucky, Louisiana, and Colorado" have all "defeated
their effort". The letter went on to say, "The passing of such a bill
without understanding the legal ramifications could put Vermont farmers in
violation of federal drug laws which have severe penalties mandated. The
committee was very well aware of the licensing guidelines according to
Maslack who said, "we had been in contact with the Federal DEA for some
time,"' he said, adding, "its the same old story of the left hand didn't
know what the right hand was doing." Maslack showed a letter sent to the
Chairman of the Agriculture Committee of the Colorado State Senate written
by the DEA head of that state. The letter was uncommonly similar to the
Bradley letter received by Speaker Obuchowsld. "It's an orchestrated
campaign," said Maslack.
The DEA and Drug Watch International have been instrumental in spearheading
the demise of any legislation to legalize industrial hemp in the United
States. A letter from the Colorado Council for Industrial Hemp Development,
in Colorado (CCIHD) explains that many of the laws the Bradley letter
speaks about were developed to make production not cost effective. Thomas
Ballanco, legal analyst for the CCIHD gives an example of that type of
tactic. "The initial policy draft requires ten foot chain link fences
surrounding the crop, but we are working on a compromise for certified low
THC seeds." The Council letter told the VT committee members that they had
the opportunity of hearing the DEA's arguments last year in Colorado and
"their arguments are not persuasive after calm, careful analysis" the
letter said. In Vermont though, the stakes are higher because up to 85% of
all drug convictions and incarcerations are for marijuana use compared to
15% for hard drug use.
Maslack says the hemp issue is a number two priority this year in the House
Agriculture Committee, second only to property tax issues. He feels a bill
will make it out onto the house floor this year. However the committee will
have to vote it out onto the floor by the cross-over deadline of February
23. That is when any bill still in committee will be held in limbo for lack
of action as more legislatively important issues are debated on the floors
of congress. Vice Chair Ruth Towne, (R-Befiin), who works a 400 acre dairy
farm says "We will pursue this issue."
--
Colorado Hemp Initiative Project
P.O. Box 729
Nederland, CO 80466
(303) 784-5632  **
Dear Friends of Industrial Hemp,

If you have not visited my hemp archives lately, you will find several new
items, including news from the Kentucky Hemp Growers' Cooperative
Association, Joan Sanstadt's articles on the North American Industrial Hemp
Forums, the texts of recent prohemp resolutions, and other discussions of
this issue.

Please feel free to stop by if you are seeking information (not 
hyperbole) on current developments, history, and culture of the agronomic 
crop: hemp.
        
David P. West, Ph.D.
Dr. Dave's Hemp Archives,
http://pressenter.pressenter.com/%7Edavewest/AAmyhomepage.htm 
 **
From: International Hemp Association,"iha"  <iha@mail.euronet.nl>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 
The International Hemp Association (IHA) is a non-profit
membership-supported and volunteer staffed organization based in
Amsterdam, the Netherlands. Our peer reviewed journal, the Journal of the 
International Hemp Association (JIHA), is published twice a year. A one 
year membership includes two volumes of the JIHA.

For membership info contact:
membership iha@euronet.nl or FAX: 31 20 618-8758
Postbus 75007,1070 AA Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Annual membership fees 
are $ 25,50,100+, for Students, Individuals, or Business / Sustaining 
members, respectively.  Students please supply proof of student status. 
Business/sustaining members will be listed under their business name in 
the IHA membership directory.

The IHA sponsors an annual grant of humanitarian aid to the Vavilov
Research Institute (VIR) in St.Petersburg, Russia to save the worlds
largest Cannabis germplasm collection, almost 400 varieties! We were 
successful in 1993 and 1994 and the work for 1995 is nearing
completion. We plan to complete the seed reproductions and evaluate the 
collection in 1996 if funding allows.

Funding is still required for the final $5,000 payment of the 1995
work. The IHA is actively seeking contributors to support the vital
preservation work ongoing at the VIR. Seeds are a perishable and
irreplaceable heritage and the Cannabis varieties in the VIR collection 
will surely die without your help.  Such a small price to pay for the 
From: International Hemp Association,"iha"  <iha@mail.euronet.nl>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 
The International Hemp Association (IHA) is a non-profit
membership-supported and volunteer staffed organization based in
Amsterdam, the Netherlands. Our peer reviewed journal, the Journal of the 
International Hemp Association (JIHA), is published twice a year. A one 
year membership includes two volumes of the JIHA.

For membership info contact:
membership iha@euronet.nl or FAX: 31 20 618-8758
Postbus 75007,1070 AA Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Annual membership fees 
are $ 25,50,100+, for Students, Individuals, or Business / Sustaining 
members, respectively.  Students please supply proof of student status. 
Business/sustaining members will be listed under their business name in 
the IHA membership directory.

The IHA sponsors an annual grant of humanitarian aid to the Vavilov
Research Institute (VIR) in St.Petersburg, Russia to save the worlds
largest Cannabis germplasm collection, almost 400 varieties! We were 
successful in 1993 and 1994 and the work for 1995 is nearing
completion. We plan to complete the seed reproductions and evaluate the 
collection in 1996 if funding allows.

Funding is still required for the final $5,000 payment of the 1995
work. The IHA is actively seeking contributors to support the vital
preservation work ongoing at the VIR. Seeds are a perishable and
irreplaceable heritage and the Cannabis varieties in the VIR collection 
will surely die without your help.  Such a small price to pay for the 
From: International Hemp Association,"iha"  <iha@mail.euronet.nl>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 
The International Hemp Association (IHA) is a non-profit
membership-supported and volunteer staffed organization based in
Amsterdam, the Netherlands. Our peer reviewed journal, the Journal of the 
International Hemp Association (JIHA), is published twice a year. A one 
year membership includes two volumes of the JIHA.

For membership info contact:
membership iha@euronet.nl or FAX: 31 20 618-8758
Postbus 75007,1070 AA Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Annual membership fees 
are $ 25,50,100+, for Students, Individuals, or Business / Sustaining 
members, respectively.  Students please supply proof of student status. 
Business/sustaining members will be listed under their business name in 
the IHA membership directory.

The IHA sponsors an annual grant of humanitarian aid to the Vavilov
Research Institute (VIR) in St.Petersburg, Russia to save the worlds
largest Cannabis germplasm collection, almost 400 varieties! We were 
successful in 1993 and 1994 and the work for 1995 is nearing
completion. We plan to complete the seed reproductions and evaluate the 
collection in 1996 if funding allows.

Funding is still required for the final $5,000 payment of the 1995
work. The IHA is actively seeking contributors to support the vital
preservation work ongoing at the VIR. Seeds are a perishable and
irreplaceable heritage and the Cannabis varieties in the VIR collection 
will surely die without your help.  Such a small price to pay for the 
to pay for the preservation of our genetic future!


  The year 1995 was a good year for hemp and the IHA/JIHA, highlights
  include: Helping with the Bio-Resourse Hemp Symposium in Franfurt,
  March 95,attending about 10 Eco-fairs, ( Italy, Spain, 3 Holland,
  Finland, 2 USA, Australia), to explain about Hemp and the IHA/JIHA.
  Sending seeds to researchers worldwide, including the first
  cultivation of hemp in Finland and S Africa for decades! Also
  cooperation with both CCIHD, in Colorado. and NAIHF, in Wisconsin
  in their ongoing efforts toallow legal cultivation of hemp in the
  USA. And certainly not last, the IHA supplied info to Govts.  
backrounds and performance data, with prices, availability,
  and address where to order them.( the IHA will have most of these
  varietys available in small, less than 5 kg.amounts).
  The June issue promises to be even bigger and better. Join the IHA
  and help support Hemp. You can read articles from the 1994 JIHA
  Vol.1 #1, and  Vol.1#2, at:
  URL:http://www.calyx.com/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/iha.html
  and E-mail to us from the page!!
** 
summary of the basic facts about drugs 
and the drug war. http://www.calyx.com/~schaffer/LIBRARY/basicfax.html
**
Subject: Re: Marijuana Gateway Drug Myth Exposed.

William House writes:
>For a more complete discussion of some of these issues, please see The
>Myth of Marijuana's Gateway Effect by John P. Morgan, M.D. and Lynn
>Zimmer, Ph.D. http://www.calyx.com/~schaffer/LIBRARY/mjgate.html
**
how about The Happy Canadian Hemp Lover's Web Site
@ http://www.acs.ryerson.ca/~lklein
**
Subject: Forest Products and Pulp & Paper WWW Site

If you are looking for information about pulp and paper, wood, or
wood-related products, manufacturers, distributors, suppliers,
associations, sustainability, academic institutions, research centers,
publications, etc. that are on the WWW, then you should see the
following WWW directory site:

http://weber.u.washington.edu/~esw/fpm.htm
This site is a collection of over 490 links to wood products, pulp and
paper, and wood products-related WWW sites on the Internet.  The sites 
are carefully catergorized to save you time in your search for
information.
**
Date: Fri, 19 JAN 1996 From: DSleigh@nwrain.net
Subject: Hemp Growing Guide!
Want to know how to grow it?  When to grow it? Where to grow it? How much 
to grow?
Surf on over to, http://HempNet.com/strategy.htm and 
participate in the world's first Hemp growing co-op on the
internet! Der HempMeister

Name: Dave Sleigh                  HempNet
E-mail:  dsleigh@nwrain.net    7911 So Hosmer Suite D-157
http://HempNet.com                 Tacoma,  WA  98408
Voice:  (206) 475-2601             Voice Mail:  (206) 591-8380
"NEW BILLION DOLLAR CROP"
                                          -Popular Mechanics, Feb 1938
(If http://HempNet.com fails, use http://HempNet.wa.net)
**
* Hemp as an Industrial and Food Resource
http://www.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/hemp.html

* Hemp Industries
http://smith2.sewanee.edu/gsmith/Karl/HEMP/Companies.html
**
   Linkname: FIFTH ANNUAL SEATTLE HEMPFEST
        URL: http://www.blarg.com/~turmoil/hempfest.html

   Linkname: HEMPFEST PHOTO'S
   Filename: http://www.blarg.com/~turmoil/hempic.html
**
 Greetings folks,
 The North Valley's largest marijuana activist organization
now has a site on the World Wide Web! Pay a visit to:
     PH:(916) 894-7044 // 230-C Walnut St. #127 // Chico, CA 95928
     Greg Bard, President. email: gregbard@ecst.csuchico.edu
     http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~gregbard/cannabis.html
**
Date: 19 NOV 1995 
From: Bryan Johnson <green@gatewest.net>
Newsgroups: alt.agriculture.misc
Subject: New Sustainable Agriculture Education Site

<BASE HREF="file:///C:\GATEWEST\KB\ANOUNC~2.HTM">

<HTML>

<HEAD>

<META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="Internet Assistant for Word 2.0z Beta">
</HEAD>

<BODY>

<P>

Check out a new on line resource for high school teachers! <I>From
the Ground Up </I>is a set of 5 lessons dealing with food and
agriculture from a sustainable development perspective. They have
been approved for classroom use by the Canadian provincial curriculum
departments of  Manitoba and  Alberta. <I>From the Ground Up</I>
can be viewed at:
<P>
http://www.gatewest.net/~green/
<P>
<A HREF="http://www.gatewest.net/~green/">or click here</A>
</BODY>

</HTML>
**
Date: Fri, 17 NOV 1995 
Subject: 1500 visits a week to our web site www.winternet.com/~insthemp

Institute for Hemp Announces 1500+ Files a Week accessed on Internet Web Site
Nov 14, 1995
   The Institute for Hemp is announcing today that they are receiving over
1500 hits to their main web site at http://www.winternet.com/~insthemp
each week.
   John Birrenbach, President of The Institute for Hemp states "I am
amazed at the response we are getting on the internet.  When I first put
our information on the internet I figured 50 a week would be great and
would justify the expense associated with running the site.  Now that I
see we are getting thousands of hits each week I can't believe it."
   Who is accessing the information?  Birrenbach states "We don't know the
person who accessed the info, only the IP address where the request
originated.  We do know from the daily reports we are getting from our
server that the accesses are coming from all over the world.  We have had
people in Japan, Canada, US, England, France, Germany, Australia and many
other countries access our files.  It's truly international in scope and
nature."
   Why the success?  Birrenbach states "We change our site frequently,
adding new stuff regularly, advertise its presence to as many news groups
as we can, & we make it interesting.  We are also decidedly Non-Drug in
orientation."
   What is in the future?  Birrenbach states "We have a number of new
ideas which we will be implementing in our site.  Maybe some forms,
survey's, video clips, more audio clips, stop in at least once a month and
you'll see new stuff all the time."
For additional information call The Institute for Hemp   612-222-2628
--END--
 ------------------This message is brought to you by:----------------- 
--     The Institute for Hemp   PO Box 65130 St Paul, MN  55165      
 --   e-mail: insthemp@winternet.com     Phone/Fax  612-222-2628      
 --  Since 1989 Providing Accurate Info About Hemps Commercial Uses   --
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
 --              THREE SITES ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB                    --
 -- OUR HOME SITE IS http://www.winternet.com/~insthemp/              --
 --         OR YOU CAN TRY ONE OF OUR MIRROR SITES                    --
 --         http://hemp.org/INSTHEMP/                      --
 --        http://fornits.com/curiosity/insthemp/                     --
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
 -- "Make the Most of the Hemp Seed, Sow it Everywhere" G.Washington  --
 --   "Without a doubt, Hemp will continue to be one of the Staple    --
 --   Agricultural Crops in the United States" L.Dewey, USDA, 1916    
-HEMP-FOR-VICTORY--
-

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Hello all, I am in the midst of compiling information for a presentation =
at the conference in WA Sept, I have spent some time teaching on the =
net.  And building up a business that re-invests all its income in a =
demonstration system.  Plus we provide tuition fully funded to people in =
third world.  I give this preamble so that you don't avoid sharing input =
as you may with other businesses on the net.  All our business structure =
will be open to examination and so will our business ethics.

Would you like to contribute your ideas,  they will be fully recognised =
in our paper,  maybe you would like to just target areas for =
development.

Here's the senario, once you establish a permaculture village, people =
start to interact socially and economically.  People work for one =
another as well as for their own systems. Community banking, co-ops, =
dairies etc are dependent on shared wealth, and liable to play a major =
role in lifestyle of the community.

How should permaculure businesses or co-operatives operate,=20
how should we apply the Care of the Earth (e.g. Environmental Management =
Standards) and=20
Care of People (Managment, leadership) ethics in our Managment of the =
business systems. =20
And just how should we address Share of Surplus (some use the term =
dispersal of surplus?)
Given that much of the global stressed are linked to inequal =
distribution of wealth, our businesses must be designed to be =
accountable.
What alternatives are there to sustain the business except planning for =
growth.  How can we gently shift the patterns of greed?

Send you ideas to April
Leisure Coast Permaculture visions

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> Given that much of the global stressed are linked to inequal
> distribution of wealth, our businesses must be designed to be accountable.
> What alternatives are there to sustain the business except planning for
> growth.  How can we gently shift the patterns of greed?

April,
	I don't think there is a gentle way to 'shift the patterns of 
greed', assuming you are talking about the distribution of wealth within 
the community. Distribute the net profits equally. No one is an employee, 
everyone is a stakeholder.  That has an amazing way of 'leveling the 
playing field' of class differences created by hierarchies of authority 
and wealth. Rotate tasks so everyone learns how to do everything and no 
one is excluded from doing the yucky stuff as well as the pleasant work. 
	As far as the people who made the initial start up investment, the
entire community could create and agree upon a payment plan so that over
time, and according to the amount of profit, the initial investor could
be repaid. For instance, if the number of people in the community is 10,
including the initial investor, the net profits could be divided into 11
shares so the 11th share would be a payment against the investment amount.
The person who invested the start up cash would get their own share for
their work and one extra share as a payment against the investment.
	That's the way I see it.
	Danielle

 

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From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <london@SunSITE.unc.edu>
To: permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
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Lawrence F. London, Jr., Venaura Farm, Chapel Hill, NC USA 
london@sunSITE.unc.edu - http://sunSITE.unc.edu/london/permaculture.html
http://sunSITE.unc.edu/london/Elsewhere.html - extensive links page
Organic Gardening, CSA, Permaculture & Renewable Energy Information
:

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From: Frits v/d Laan <f.vd.laan@inter.nl.net>
To: sustag-public@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: PC Europe pages?

In article <211A7B4E85@acadamh.ucd.ie>, HWITTS@acadamh.ucd.ie (Helen Witts) says:
>Subject:       PC Europe pages?
>Maybe I start a PC-Page soon (if there is one for Europe I will do this
>only in german language,  Who likes to contribute?
>
OK I'm in for starting up a Europage but only if it's in English or muli-
language.
I know there is a lot of organics going on in Austria, germany and
Denmark but if you start up a page for Europe it must be all of Europe.

Frits vd Laan
Organic Horticulture

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From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <london@SunSITE.unc.edu>
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From: Ferrucio@aol.com
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Cc: ecol-agric@mailbase.ac.uk
Subject: !!ATTRA emergency!!

If you know of or have used ATTRA's services, read on.

!!!RESPONSES NEEDED BEFORE 4/19/96!!!

For reasons I do not fully comprehend, I have been asked to go to Washington
4/22/96 to make a direct appeal to Rep. Marcy Kaptur (a key member of the ag
committee) and to possibly testify before the full committee about ATTRA's
importance to me as the "average" farmer type, to preserve ATTRA's funding at
current levels.
If you have used ATTRA's services, please send me a short synopsis of your
experience focusing on:

1.Was the information economically helpful, did it help reduce operational
costs? (they like to hear about programs that save money)
2.Did it improve efficiency?
3.Were there positive environmental effects?
4.Anything else you feel to be pertinent

The funding request for FY97 is $1.3 million. No new money is being asked
for.
Mick Natco
Little Pond Farm
IFO-Innovative Farmers of Ohio
SOFA-Sheauga Organic Farmers Association

Please forward your response to my request to the following address:
Farmer M@aol.com
(if you trouble with that address, try ferrucio@aol.com)

And send a copy of your response to your Senator or Congressperson and urge
them to maintain funding for ATTRA.

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The Potluck at Brian Lutes Place is on April 20th, Saturday.

I also heard that Windsong Cohousing  is having an open house in Langley
starting at 2:00 for more information call Siobhan Ryan at 873 4335.

Cohousing is a community oriented development system that puts the
community in a place to direct the housing that is built.  Low cost
friendly atomosphere with both privacy and common space.

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Hello:

I invite you to come to Brian Lutes home for a Potluck:

Come at 3:00 pm

Some of these events may occur:

Discussion:  Realize your Dreams of Living sustainably
Planting various and rarer edible and or nitrogen fixers
Wild salad Walk in the nearby forest with Harold Waldock
 Identify some edible plants, taste some and make salad with some.

Pot Luck at 5:00 followed by discussion.

Brian Lutes landscape was designed with sustainability in mind:
It has been mulched, planted with trees and shrubs which bear fruit.
It is a work in progress with many more plants and shrubs not yet
planted. Come and see it!  Some trees will be in bloom.

For more details
email blutes@alternatives.com or phone 589 9620

Location:  14 minutes from the end of the Sky train route in Surrey
Short cut: walk east under skytrain tracks, crossing a road. Continue
under the tracks until they end and pass a sporting goods store on your
left.  Cross the 4 lane road under the power lines continue east until
you come to a fire lane at a housing complex.  Walk south winding
through the complex till you come to a road. By the right hand side is a
path beside the creek.  Follow it through to the next cull-de-sac.
Brians is the 2 house on the left.

#9641 - 139 Street Surrey.

Harold may be driving in, as might Mike Kaweski with plants.

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Response to ATTRA Emergency Message

I hope that Mick Natco gets a great personal email response to
his questions on the usefulness of ATTRA.  However, the phone
calls we've received asking about ATTRA's status lead me to provide 
you with a short update.

ATTRA, along with other sustainable agriculture programs, will
face a tough challenge again this year in Congress. However,
Congress is just beginning to consider the USDA budget for FY97,
and so it is difficult to know at this point when emergencies may
come.  Nevertheless, this is a particularly important time for
House Member Kaptur and others to hear from constituents and
supporters of ATTRA and other sustainable agriculture programs.

If you need more specific information, please email me personally
at the address below.

Teresa Maurer, Program Manager
Appropriate Technology Transfer for Rural Areas
P.O. Box 3657
Fayetteville, AR  72702 
501-442-9824
Email:  teresam@ncatfyv.uark.edu
 

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From: ancha@vtt.co.jp (Ancha Srinivasan)
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Subject: Web sites related to sustainable agriculture, GIS and GPS
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I wish to thank all those people who had sent me information on web sites
related to sustainable agriculture, GIS and GPS.  As I have just updated 
the list, I would appreciate if you could access the web page again and
inform me of any important sites (and their URL addresses) that must be
included. I shall incorporate your suggestions in my next update. The
address of URL is

http://www.vtt.co.jp/staff/ancha/Links.html

 Please add this site in your links if you consider it appropriate.

I am also compiling a list of researchers interested in applications of GIS
in tropical agriculture. If you have a similar interest, please visit the
following page and send your details.  I shall post the compiled list to
all responders at the end of May, 1996. 

http://www.vtt.co.jp/staff/ancha/C-Projects.html

If your time permits, please go through other information and send your
suggestions to me by e-mail (ancha@vtt.co.jp). 

Thank you in advance for any help.

Ancha Srinivasan
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Ancha Srinivasan  Ph.D. (Cambridge)    
Senior Researcher, Regional Science Institute 
4-13  Kita 24 Nishi 2, Kita-ku, Sapporo  001 JAPAN 
Tel: +81-11-717-6660 (Office) +81-11-824-4753 (Home)
Fax: +81-11-757-3610 (Office) +81-11-824-4753 (Home)     
E-mail: ancha@vtt.co.jp  URL: http://www.vtt.co.jp/staff/ancha/
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To: EDEL CHADWICK <echadwic@server1.rtc-athlone.ie>
cc: "'Permacultire Mailing List'" <permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: creosote
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On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, EDEL CHADWICK wrote:

> Can anyone answer this questuion, I am hoping to build a house soon, 
> partially earth bermed, south facing slope etc. I hope to use 
> concrete block for the north and possibly east and west walls with 
> the rest timber framed. I have access to used electricity poles, these 
> are 20-30 years old, hard wood and had been treated with creosote at 
> the beginning of their life. Are these safe to use from a personal 
> and environmental point of view, do any special precautions need to 
> be taken?
> Thanks 
> Edel
> 
> 
Dear Edel,
Do you have access to any other form of recycled timber
? my experience of telegraph poles is they're difficult to cut even with 
a chainsaw and burn very well...something you might take into account.
Be well
Angus Claydon
claydona@hinet.net

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From: Rachel Freifelder <rrfreifelder@ucdavis.edu>
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I am looking for a source of sustainably-harvested or salvaged (but in 
good condition) redwood or other weather-hardy wood, near the 
SanFrancisco or Sacramento area or willing to ship a small amount.  I 
think the quantity we need is in the vicinity of 200 board-feet. My 
community is building 5 outdoor tables for summer dining.  We wwant them 
to be beautiful, durable, inexpensive and compatible with our commitment 
to minimizing our resource consumption.
Any leads welcomed.

Rachel R. Freifelder
N Street Cohousing
Davis, CA
916-756-8697
"To create community we need to love each other, trust each other and help 
each other; that is hard."
--Wendell Berry



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My community (N Street Cohousing in Davis CA) recently built a new entry 
gate and used telephone poles for  the gate posts.  We needed something 
that could be buried 2' deep in sometimes waterlogged soil and not rot.  
We did not find them difficult to cut at all - I used a hand saw, and I 
am 5'2" and 120 lbs.  However, the reason we used a hand saw is because 
we thought the dust kicked up by a power saw (cfreosote-treated sawdust) 
might be hazardous to our lungs.  As far as burning easily, it rather 
depends on whether you're in a climate where that is a priomary concern.



Rachel R. Freifelder
Young Idealist
"To create community we need to love each other, trust each other and help 
each other; that is hard."
--Wendell Berry


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 13:58:57 -0500
From: carol cross <solync@cei.net>
To: SANET-MG@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: New EcoAgroForestry Mailing List

===============================================
ECOAGROFORESTRY LIST EAF-L NOW OPEN FOR SUBSCRIBERS
=============================================== 

This EcoAgroForestry mailing list is based on the interest shown by many
respondents to the kenaf seminar and to the debate on rural and urban
development. This list has been established to provide a forum for the
business, industrial, agricultural, forestry, rural development, investment,
sustainable development, environmental and rural communities everywhere in
the world internet community to discuss topics in creating a livable,
productive and enduring EarthHome through EcoAgroForestry. Dr. Carol Cross
is pleased to be your hostess and hopes that this forum will be a means to
transfer technology, provide a medium for the development and
standardization of EcoAgroForestry rural agroindustrial systems, and to
advance the science and engineering of Rural AgroIndustrial Centers (RAICs)
for sustainable production. We especially want to involve farmers all over
the world to get involved in sharing information with each other. It is
vital that farmers and livestock producers become involved in the
development of RAICs so they stop being the victims of the world commodity
markets and become processers and owners of value added production systems.

We expect the forum will be a springboard for the pursuit of innovative
approaches to rural development. Because the success of the group will be a
function of the involvement of its members. Dr. Cross invites anyone with an
interest and/or expertise in any of the above EcoAgroForestry areas to join
the list. Due to the complexities of creating sustainable rural
agroindustrial development, we welcome input from environmentalists,
engineers, businesspersons, investors, suppliers, development groups, and
others with similar interests.  Anyone who wishes to contribute to this very
vital, important and fascinating topic are invited to participate.

Dr. Cross recognizes that EcoAgroForestry is not the only system for
creating a sustainable world.  However, we feel it is an idea which can add
tremendously to the well being of all LifeKind, EarthHumans and ultimately,
the EarthHome, its limitations notwithstanding.

Users can subscribe to the list by sending an email to

eaf-l-request@eaf.com

leaving the subject blank, and entering the line below in the body of the
message:

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 JOIN US ON EAF-L 

The basic underpinnings of the list is EcoAgroForestry which is a new term
coined by Dr. Cross.

EcoAgroForestry - the development of sustainable, productive, long term,
human-based life maintenance systems.  It involves the use of ecologically
sound methods of producing crop plants, animals and trees in a production
system that uses sustainable, appropriate inputs and methods.  It includes
composting, biomass energy, solar energy, recycling, polyculture, wind
energy, biological pest control, organic farming and gardening methods,
aquaculture, water and soil conservation technologies and other appropriate
technologies that avoid the use of pesticides, insecticides, and
inappropriate technologies. 

EcoAgroForestry also includes the industrial development of rural areas so
that people will not have to leave to find work and "a better way of life"
in urban areas?  I propose that we need models for profitable rural
development that could create "a better way of life" in the rural areas of
the world.  These projects for development should stand on their own, be
sustainable, and must be business-focused projects. As Danny Wong from
Singapore said, This is "indeed a revolution in the agricultural industries". 

EcoAgroForestry will be focused on sustainable agriculture, sustainable
forestry and rural agroindustrial development. Rural agroindustrial
activities will be developed at two levels. 

Level One will be EcoAgroForestry Village Business Incubators (VBIs).  VBIs
will be low tech, with buildings developed from bamboo and indigenous
materials, using appropriate technologies. Level Two will be Rural
AgroIndustrial Centers (RAICs) which can include one or more production
level modules. In both these centers, production will be based on combining
kenaf with AgroResidues such as rice straw, wheat straw, sugar cane bagasse
and/ or forest wastes but they can also involve other crops.

Some suggested modules include but are not limited to: a kenaf plantation;
low tech livestock feed; a kenaf separation plant (core from stem fiber);
fuel briquettes; ecologically sound field and tree crop production of
foodstuffs (such as sweet sorghum and Leucaena nitrogen-fixing trees);
ecologically sound food processing ; nonwood paper; building materials;
reforestation center; reclamation center; sustainable logging and certified
forest products; production of organic fertilizers and soil amendments; the
SAMEI(TM)  Strategy for natural cosmetics/ perfume industry development;
canewood products from bamboo, rattan, florals and handicrafts; aquaculture
projects; bagged silage system; feed pelletizing plant; kenaf remediation
products; kenaf fabrics; essential oils; industrial plant derived oils; and
Integrated Farming systems.
 
The EAF-L list has two agendas.

Agenda One - Establishing Rural AgroIndustrial Centers (RAICs) based on
EcoAgroForestry by forming consortiums of local people and internationals.
By combining local resources, international technical expertises, suppliers
and investments in the development of the RAICs, I am proposing a new
paradigm of economic development.

My goal is to have several hundred of these RAICs around the world in which
I will own 10%, more or less, depending on the situation.  The purpose of
developing this business is to develop sufficient income for my real agenda.
I intend to use my own funds to start Agenda Two.  However, anyone wanting
to become a part of Agenda Two is welcome to share themselves in a variety
of ways.

Agenda Two - Establishing a permanent culture to bring the street children
(15,000,000 in Latin America alone) into a potentiating, caring and
compassionate, entrepreneurial culture. Clearly most of this will not be
accomplished in my lifetime.  But by creating each of these entities as a
corporation, they can have a perpetual life and the work can continue after
my death. Donations and volunteers alone will not be able to sustain the
villages for the massive number of villages needed for the 15,000,000
children in Latin America, which is not addressing the 150,000,000 worldwide.  

The children must become an asset to the village, not a liability.  They
will do this by training to be provided to them and their developing into
entrepreneurs to create the income necessary for their upkeep.  The children
will also give part of their time as members of the Green Force, replanting
local areas as part of their repayment for being brought off the streets.
There are no free lunches (I have never received one and neither will they)
and these children will not be given charity. Charity destroys self esteem
and people's innerness as exemplified by the destruction of the welfare
populations in the USA. These children will learn to work, to develop their
own small businesses and to give of themselves to the EarthHome and the
local communities adjacent to the villages they are in. Most important, of
course, is that they will belong to a community and be enabled to contribute
to that community. Additionally, each child is expected to bring another
child off the streets and be responsible for their development.

If you are involved in rural development, are an equipment supplier, an
investor, an entrepreneur, a landowner or just care about sustainable
development, I would like to invite you to participate in a lively
discussion of how ecologically sound entrepreneurship  can meet the need for
sustainable development.  Business is the contributor to governments. The
taxes come from businesses and indivudals, but the individuals get their
money in wages from corporations (or government via corporations).
Corporations also give to foundations who support nonprofit groups as do
individuals (via their income source, ultimately businesses).  

There is only one source of resources on this planet and it is the
difference between what it costs to produce a product and what the product
can be sold for. This differential is thus the only source of the resources
needed to regreen the EarthHome, create sustainable communities and enable
LifeKind (us) to continue to live on the EarthHome.

We can work together. Business does not have to be destructive, as many
green businesses already are witness to. EcoAgroForestry is designed to be a
win-win scenario for all. As I tell people, there is no (Noah's) Ark today.
Some of my environmentalist friends act like when the Global Warming kicks
in, they will be saved because they recycled or they used soyink or
whatever.  There are no boats coming to pick up the worthy and allow the
unworthy to die.  We will all die or live together on this planet.  Why not
work together and maybe we can all live. That is why we must all work together.

I look forward to your contributions.  Dr. Carol Cross

Carol Cross, PhD  EcoAgroForestry  Founder (501) 367-6127 (Ph)            
2801 Olive, #35A, Suite 113                (501) 367-8736(FAX)            
Pine Bluff, AR 71611                        Email: solync@cei.net         
Together we Can Create A Sustainable World  Through EcoAgroForestry      
(Sustainable  Agriculture,  Sustainable Forestry and Rural AgroIndustrial 
Development).  Form  Consortiums & Develop a  EcoAgroForestry Village   
Business Incubator (VBI)  or Rural  Agroindustrial Center (RAIC), NOW!      
Become an EcoAgroForestry  Entrepreneur and Regreen the EarthHome!       

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Katherine in Tucson, Arizona wrote :

>Just a little reminder that there's a big, big difference between deserts
>that evolved gradually over the eons and have a full complement of plants,
>animals, insects etc. that happily and fruitfully live there; and the kind
>of desert_ification_ that often occurs as a result of poor agricultural,
>ecological, or social practices (overgrazing, overuse of water resources,
>etc.)

O.K. so the problem now must be, where do we draw the line between a
'natural' desert ecosystem and an anthropogencally derived system ? Very
difficult I suspect ! Also, how common are 'natural' deserts, if indeed
there are any ? Is the Sahara a result of purely natural forces ? 

Permaculture recognises that all animals garden. Poor agricultural practices
(as mentioned by Kathy) can be concidered as inappropriate gardening. If an
animal gardens is it natural ? If a person gardens, or performs agriculture,
is this unnatural ? If an introduced animal species gardens in a system to
which it is not native, but has been introduced, does it then perform an
unnatural, or inappropriate form of agriculture ? 

Where do you draw the line between an anthropogenic system, or culture which
is practising natural or unnatural patterns of living ? 

When we look at a species within a biomme, we say it has adapted, over time,
to this environment. More commonly, the species has adapted to a previous
environment which has since been altered by people, and is tollerant to this
new anthropogenically altered envronment. In such cases, the species is abapted.

Take for example the grouse which inhabits the peat upland moors of northern
Britain. In terms of flora and fauna, this ecosystem may be considered as a
desert, comparative to the diversity which existed there 10,000 years ago,
before the trees were felled by people. Although a native to the U.K. , the
grouse isn't adapted to this kind of environment, but rather tollerates it,
and is abapted.  

Another ripe example of abaptation may be the 2 million wilderbeest which
roam the Sarengetti plain. Supposedly natural Savahna systems are in fact
equally as much a result of human intervention (through fire management) as
the upland moors of Britain, or for that matter, desert in Northern America
produced through inappropriate agriculture. 

There is no balance in nature. All ecological systems are in a constant flux
of change.

In summary, are people, with all their diversity of complex agricultural and
social systems, still part of a natural evolution ? and are there any
systems on the planet that have been touched by Man that can really be
considered as natural ?

Just a thought, rob. 
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I am a second year anthropology grad student at University of California, 
Santa Barbara, working under Dr. David Cleveland.  I am currently doing
a project on urban household gardening as a method of sustainable 
agriculture (and development) (and possibly of folk variety preservation.)  
Can anyone suggest any articles or books published 1990-present which address
 this issue from a sociocultural, economic and/or environmental perspective?
I also welcome any advice or discussion on the topic, as I am just 
getting started!

Thanks in advance.

Christabel Garcia-Zamor
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I am a second year anthropology grad student at University of California, 
Santa Barbara, working under Dr. David Cleveland.  I am currently doing
a project on urban household gardening as a method of sustainable 
agriculture (and development) (and possibly of folk variety preservation.)  
Can anyone suggest any articles or books published 1990-present which address
 this issue from a sociocultural, economic and/or environmental perspective?
I also welcome any advice or discussion on the topic, as I am just 
getting started!

Thanks in advance.

Christabel Garcia-Zamor
6500cgz@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu

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I think about, if it is really a good idea to forward so much mails here.
We all know that sutstainable agriculture is related to Permaculture
somehow. And most of us know both lists. I would suggest to post a short
comprehensive description-list of other PC-related Mailinglists and
Newsgroups once a month.

I do see that there is a chance to miss an intersting mail if you don not
have subscribed to all. :-) But I think that is a matter of personal
decision?

BTW: I would love to here more about workshops in Europe. ;)

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From: BDTG82B@prodigy.com (Beatrice Adler)
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Date: 14 Apr 1996 20:35:15 GMT
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This is an inquiry for a friend who is attempting sustainable agriculture 
in
Guatemala - in the mountains, poor soil, a 4 mo. dry season, springlike
climate. She was in the Peace Corps and has chosen to remain. She is
growing vegetables, mulching, has goats, goat milk and makes goat
cheese, has chickens. She uses her gardening as a basis for training the
local folks (extremely poor) how to make better use of their land, and 
speaks
to Guatemalan government groups as well as Peace Corps groups, and of
course, the local people. She needs new ideas on how to improve her
operation, new ideas on what she can do. This is a very low budget
operation, deliberately so, so that the local people will be able to 
emulate.
Will appreciate any material I can get to forward to her.  By the way, 
she
has no electricity and very limited water.  
Prodigy address is bdtg82b.com    Beatrice
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------- start of forwarded message -------
From: BDTG82B@prodigy.com (Beatrice Adler)
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Subject: Re: Permaculture International (fwd)
Date: 14 Apr 1996 20:35:15 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY

This is an inquiry for a friend who is attempting sustainable agriculture 
in
Guatemala - in the mountains, poor soil, a 4 mo. dry season, springlike
climate. She was in the Peace Corps and has chosen to remain. She is
growing vegetables, mulching, has goats, goat milk and makes goat
cheese, has chickens. She uses her gardening as a basis for training the
local folks (extremely poor) how to make better use of their land, and 
speaks
to Guatemalan government groups as well as Peace Corps groups, and of
course, the local people. She needs new ideas on how to improve her
operation, new ideas on what she can do. This is a very low budget
operation, deliberately so, so that the local people will be able to 
emulate.
Will appreciate any material I can get to forward to her.  By the way, 
she
has no electricity and very limited water.  
Prodigy address is bdtg82b.com    Beatrice
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  BEATRICE ADLER  BDTG82B@prodigy.com


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------- start of forwarded message -------
From: BDTG82B@prodigy.com (Beatrice Adler)
Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Re: Permaculture International (fwd)
Date: 14 Apr 1996 20:35:15 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY

This is an inquiry for a friend who is attempting sustainable agriculture 
in
Guatemala - in the mountains, poor soil, a 4 mo. dry season, springlike
climate. She was in the Peace Corps and has chosen to remain. She is
growing vegetables, mulching, has goats, goat milk and makes goat
cheese, has chickens. She uses her gardening as a basis for training the
local folks (extremely poor) how to make better use of their land, and 
speaks
to Guatemalan government groups as well as Peace Corps groups, and of
course, the local people. She needs new ideas on how to improve her
operation, new ideas on what she can do. This is a very low budget
operation, deliberately so, so that the local people will be able to 
emulate.
Will appreciate any material I can get to forward to her.  By the way, 
she
has no electricity and very limited water.  
Prodigy address is bdtg82b.com    Beatrice
-
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The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) published in 1996 the 
following:

Urban Agriculture:  Food, Jobs and Sustainable Cities. 1996. Publications 
Series for Habitat II. Volume 1. 

I'm not sure how you would get a copy. The Press release has two 
contacts: Francois Couttu, UNDP/NY, (212) 906-5344
          Richard Kollodge,         (212)  906-6776

The focus is global, with more international than U.S.

Andy Clark
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On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Christabel Garcia-Zamor wrote:

> 
> I am a second year anthropology grad student at University of California, 
> Santa Barbara, working under Dr. David Cleveland.  I am currently doing
> a project on urban household gardening as a method of sustainable 
> agriculture (and development) (and possibly of folk variety preservation.)  
> Can anyone suggest any articles or books published 1990-present which address
>  this issue from a sociocultural, economic and/or environmental perspective?
> I also welcome any advice or discussion on the topic, as I am just 
> getting started!
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Christabel Garcia-Zamor
> 6500cgz@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
> 

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The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) published in 1996 the 
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Urban Agriculture:  Food, Jobs and Sustainable Cities. 1996. Publications 
Series for Habitat II. Volume 1. 

I'm not sure how you would get a copy. The Press release has two 
contacts: Francois Couttu, UNDP/NY, (212) 906-5344
          Richard Kollodge,         (212)  906-6776

The focus is global, with more international than U.S.

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On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Christabel Garcia-Zamor wrote:

> 
> I am a second year anthropology grad student at University of California, 
> Santa Barbara, working under Dr. David Cleveland.  I am currently doing
> a project on urban household gardening as a method of sustainable 
> agriculture (and development) (and possibly of folk variety preservation.)  
> Can anyone suggest any articles or books published 1990-present which address
>  this issue from a sociocultural, economic and/or environmental perspective?
> I also welcome any advice or discussion on the topic, as I am just 
> getting started!
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Christabel Garcia-Zamor
> 6500cgz@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
> 

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Hello, anyone permaculture minded in Ballarat Victoria Australia?, =
somone looking for a permaculture contact, with a view to forming a =
support group.
April

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Austria now has something like 25,000 organic farms on 1 million acres (12%
of Austria's agricultural land area is certified organic or in conversion
and is expected to reach 15% by the end of 1996).  This situation is unique
in the world and gives plenty of choice of farms to visit.

Two key organisations you might want to contact are:

Ernte fuer das Leben (the main certification organisation)
Tillysburg 1
A-4490 St. Florian
Tel: 07223 3245

Ludwig-Bolzmann-Institut (research and policy/market development)
Rinnbockstr. 13
A-1110 Wien (Vienna)


>I am going to be working in Austria for some weeks this summer and 
>wondered if anyone on sanet knows of any interesting organizations, 
>farms, etc. that I could visit while there. Thank you, Suzanne Milshaw
>                                                 
>smilshaw@emerald.tufts.edu
>
>
Nic Lampkin
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Stapledon Building, Penglais Campus
University of Wales, Aberystwyth
GB-Dyfed SY23 3DD.
Tel: +44 (0)1970 622248
Fax: +44 (0)1970 622238

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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:06:34 +0100
From: Nic Lampkin <nhl@aber.ac.uk>
To: Suzanne Milshaw <smilshaw@emerald.tufts.edu>
Cc: sanet-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: Austria 

Austria now has something like 25,000 organic farms on 1 million acres (12%
of Austria's agricultural land area is certified organic or in conversion
and is expected to reach 15% by the end of 1996).  This situation is unique
in the world and gives plenty of choice of farms to visit.

Two key organisations you might want to contact are:

Ernte fuer das Leben (the main certification organisation)
Tillysburg 1
A-4490 St. Florian
Tel: 07223 3245

Ludwig-Bolzmann-Institut (research and policy/market development)
Rinnbockstr. 13
A-1110 Wien (Vienna)


>I am going to be working in Austria for some weeks this summer and 
>wondered if anyone on sanet knows of any interesting organizations, 
>farms, etc. that I could visit while there. Thank you, Suzanne Milshaw
>                                                 
>smilshaw@emerald.tufts.edu
>
>
Nic Lampkin
Welsh Institute of Rural Studies
Stapledon Building, Penglais Campus
University of Wales, Aberystwyth
GB-Dyfed SY23 3DD.
Tel: +44 (0)1970 622248
Fax: +44 (0)1970 622238

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From: John Cropper, 245 E 63St, Apt 1802, New York, NY10021. 
              Tel: 212 752 9774; Email: jcroppe@aol.com
To: Permaculture Network

In the current issue of IFOAM's Ecology and Farming magazine I read of your
permaculture network. I'm a new internetter, so I'm not sure of the protocols
for this or any other network, but I am very interested in getting into a
permaculture discussion group, particularly with those interested in tropical
applications.

Please confirm that this message has been received and give me details about
the network. Do you have links with the sustainable agriculture network?

My background:
I'm an ag economist, who as worked in ag research organisations in the
Caribbean - first at the University of the West Indies, then at the Caribbean
Research and Development Institute. I then turned more to communications,
founding and editing a newspaper for farmers, and doing contract work
producing technical reports, newsletters etc for a variety of organisations.
I was in Europe for the last couple of years, and did a permaculture design
course there last year. I came to New York (where my wife is with the UN) at
the end of 95.

My particular interest:
I'm now in the early stages of planning two pilot projects with residential
squatters on the hillsides which surround Port of Spain, the capital of the
Caribbean island of Trinidad and Tobago. The hillsides have  been denuded of
rain forest by slash and burn farmers, and are now in a fire climax of coarse
grasses and a few palms. The squatters, driven by the high price and relative
unavailability of land close to the city, each year climb higher up the
hillsides, cutting tracks and house sites at random. The down slope effects
are predictable - siltation, flooding, destruction of property and
infrastructure, and occasional loss of life. 

The government has been unable to do anything, except to study the problem,
no doubt daunted by the cost and complexity of regularising the tenure and
installing even a minimum of infrastructure. Meanwhile the problem is
becoming worse and more widespread. 

I hope to be working with two communities to assess the impact of encouraging
householders to establish 'forest gardens' - multiple stories of food trees,
shrubs and annuals - which will mimic to some extent the natural forest in
protecting the soil and slowing run-off, as well as providing them with basic
food items, and perhaps some limited opportunities for cash sales. In one of
the communities there is still some rudimentary farming on the remaining
unoccupied land, and we shall be looking at opportunities to improve the
output of the systems employed while reducing the negative environmental
impact. I feel sure that there is enormous potential for a permaculture
approach in these circumstance.

So far my role has been to conceive the idea, identify and interest two
communities as possible pilot projects, and begin the search for funds. I
expect to have a continuing oversight role, to document the experience, to
look for opportunities to spread the lessons to other communities, and to
learn a lot myself, since unfortunately I will have to do this from a
distance, making only occasional visits.

Does anyone have experience of projects in the tropics like this with the
urban poor? I'd be interested to hear of it, and would be happy to provide
more details of our ideas.

John Cropper

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Welcome to the list .  I too like most everything I have been about to 
here about permaculture ,subtropical in southern Ca.  This must be the place.



Sal Schettino,Organic Farmer,don't panic eat organic,sals@rain.org
or check out my homepage:            http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html    .


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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 20:55:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Fuller <sol3az@igc.apc.org>
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To: permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
Subject: Permaculture Course
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	5th Annual Permaculture Intensive Design Course

			25 May thru 2 June 1996

	To be held on the Navajo/Hopi reservation


		Contact BMPP for more information:

   (520) 629-9122 or PO Box 26195, Tucson, AZ 85726


The Course is offered by the BLACK MESA PERMACULTURE 
PROJECT, an Indigenous-based organization, and is free 
to Native Americans.  The $250 fee for other 
participants provides Native scholarships and.materials 
for Course work projects that benefit host families.  
Come equipped for self-sufficient primitive camping.


Our first priority is to provide a quality learning 
experience to interested Native Peoples in an 
atmosphere in which they feel comfortable and that 
accommodates cultural differences.  The course is most 
fitted to those supportive of Native culture.

The Black Mesa Permaculture Project (BMPP) is a project 
of Indigenous People living on reservations on the 
Black Mesa in the Four Corners region of the Southwest.  
What makes this project unique is that it is not only a 
permaculture project on Native Lands, but a project of 
the Indigenous People living there.  It was founded by 
local Dineh (Navajo) residents as part of an effort to 
build a self-reliant and sustainable base to better 
resist corporate encroachment and make sovereignty a 
reality.  BMPP stresses the healing of Mother Earth 
while maintaining the integrity of traditional values 
and practices which were the origins of permaculture - 
completing a spiral cycle.

We provide hands-on education by developing working 
permaculture models, by implementing and monitoring 
projects, by giving workshops and demonstrations, and 
by providing support and networking services.  We also 
assist other Native People, such as the Western 
Shoshone Defense Project, implementing similar projects 
outside Black Mesa where resources permit.

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From: David Fuller <sol3az@igc.apc.org>
Message-Id: <199604250459.VAA02947@igc2.igc.apc.org>
To: pcjournal@nor.com.au
Subject: Permaculture Course
Cc: permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu, wreford_miller@mindlink.bc.ca
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Dear Friends,

Please post this event on your site or mailing list, if you would 
be so 
kind!  Any help in spreading the word through the permaculture 
world 
would be appreciated.


All the best, 

	Jack Strasburg,
		for the Black Mesa Permaculture Project.


---------------------------------------------------------------

	5th Annual Permaculture Intensive Design Course

			25 May thru 2 June 1996

	To be held on the Navajo/Hopi reservation


		Contact BMPP for more information:

   (520) 629-9122 or PO Box 26195, Tucson, AZ 85726


The Course is offered by the BLACK MESA PERMACULTURE 
PROJECT, an Indigenous-based organization, and is free 
to Native Americans.  The $250 fee for other 
participants provides Native scholarships and.materials 
for Course work projects that benefit host families.  
Come equipped for self-sufficient primitive camping.


Our first priority is to provide a quality learning 
experience to interested Native Peoples in an 
atmosphere in which they feel comfortable and that 
accommodates cultural differences.  The course is most 
fitted to those supportive of Native culture.

The Black Mesa Permaculture Project (BMPP) is a project 
of Indigenous People living on reservations on the 
Black Mesa in the Four Corners region of the Southwest.  
What makes this project unique is that it is not only a 
permaculture project on Native Lands, but a project of 
the Indigenous People living there.  It was founded by 
local Dineh (Navajo) residents as part of an effort to 
build a self-reliant and sustainable base to better 
resist corporate encroachment and make sovereignty a 
reality.  BMPP stresses the healing of Mother Earth 
while maintaining the integrity of traditional values 
and practices which were the origins of permaculture - 
completing a spiral cycle.

We provide hands-on education by developing working 
permaculture models, by implementing and monitoring 
projects, by giving workshops and demonstrations, and 
by providing support and networking services.  We also 
assist other Native People, such as the Western 
Shoshone Defense Project, implementing similar projects 
outside Black Mesa where resources permit.

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subscribe permaculture-mg Tom Gibson
Know anyone moving an office or household? Fast, courteous, professional.
Reasonable rates. We can help you save money too!
http:\\www.teleport.com\~tgibs\wexpress.htm
http:\\www.hevanet.com\tgibs918\

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unsubscribe permaculture-mg
-- 
Do you know anyone who needs help moving their household goods?
I can send you information about moving alternatives for people
that are interested in quality service more than price, at prices
that beat the competition.
- - - - -
Tom Gibson, 3802 SE 36th Place, Portland, OR 97202
http://www.teleport.com/~tgibs/wexpress.htm

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Robinson <cr4@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: Re: permaculture
In-reply-to: <m0uCYep-0010VtC@vista.hevanet.com>
To: Tom Gibson <tgibs918@hevanet.com>
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Greetings,
This kind of blantant SPAMMING should be dealt with immediatley and 
finally.

PLEASE contact this *&*^$%#)*%#@'s service providers (the domains 
teleport.com and hevanet.com) and demand action!

Thanx!

On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Tom Gibson wrote:

> subscribe permaculture-mg Tom Gibson
> Know anyone moving an office or household? Fast, courteous, professional.
> Reasonable rates. We can help you save money too!
> http:\\www.teleport.com\~tgibs\wexpress.htm
> http:\\www.hevanet.com\tgibs918\
> 
> 

Christopher M Robinson
The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
cr4@axe.humboldt.edu

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:22:30 +0900
To: permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu
From: Tom Gibson <tgibs918@hevanet.com>
Subject: Sorry!
Cc: info@hevanet.com
Status: RO
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I received the following messages after moving a subscription from one ISP
account to another:

Return-Path: <cr4@axe.humboldt.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Robinson <cr4@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: Re: permaculture
To: Tom Gibson <tgibs918@hevanet.com>

Greetings PRICK
I'm going to complain to your service provider

Here's hoping you burn in HELL

AND

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:24:53 -0700
From: HSU Student Labs <studentlab@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: (no subject)
To: tgibs918@hevanet.com
Organization: Humboldt State University

Fuck you, you spam brained assholes!!!
----------------------------------------
I forgot that a signature file that I had been using when contacting some of
my commercial accounts was still active and many of you were inadvertantly
sent an "advertisement" about moving services. Sounds stupid, but I forgot
that the note would be immediately broadcast to everyone in the group. I
apologize for this. It was not my intent to spam this discussion group which
I am sure is not interested in moving services. Today I received 7-8
messages all from Humboldt University of the genre you see above. Are they
working those guys too hard or what?

Thx
TG

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Subject: Re: Sorry!
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To: Tom Gibson <tgibs918@hevanet.com>
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My sincere apologies to Mr. Gibson and the whole list for my apparent 
over reaction to what was an innocent mistake.

My only excuse is that certain parties out there have no qualms about 
crass self promotion on any and all venues no matter what the format.
I thought a quick and pointed response the best preventative against 
future spams. 

Hope you can forgive this foul mouthed jerk, Tom. I'm washing my mouth 
out with soap and going to bed with out supper.


Regards
Christopher M Robinson
The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
cr4@axe.humboldt.edu

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:08:10 +0100
From: rob & gill <robgil@yesyou.u-net.com>
To: Community_Forestry_Discussion <Tree-House@lists.umbc.edu>
Subject: Re: TH: mix them together, and scatter

Don't you just love it when, as if by magic, information concerning
something you have resently been talking about, appears, unprompted, at you
doorstep !

Over the past couple of days, two interesting texts have come to me
concerning desert restoration, and the legendary Richard St. Barbe Baker.

The first was a letter by one Malcolme Lake published in the British
Permaculture Mag, written in responce to a previous article by Greg Samway
who wrote,

" ... to make any impression on atmospheric CO2 levels [in order to reduce
global warming] it would require planting a forest the size of India, but
because nobody has the space to plant such a big forest, it is not
considered to be a viable opinion. "

To which M.Lake responds with, "I feel bound to inform ... that such a space
really does exist and afforesting land must be considered a viable option!
It was the vision of Richard St Barbe Baker, forester, environmentalist,
author, member of the Baha'i Faith and founder of the Men of the Trees - now
the international Tree foundation - that the Sahara desert should be
afforested..."

Lake continues by describing Baker's vision as an "embryonic Gain
hypothesis" since he regarded our planet as a "...sentient being, one third
of whose 'skin' should be growing trees."

The second piece of information was in the excellent book Forest Gardening
by Robert A de J Hart. In a fitting tribute to the man, Hart describes
Barbe's magnificant vision of restoring the million square miles of desert,
with tree roots tapping into an underground ocean the size of France which
supposedly exists beneith the sand, in order to " ... create a mosaic of
protective zones, comprising forests of draught resistant trees and crops,
which would eventally merge."

In the forward to Baker's book, Sahara Conquest, John Hutchings and Knut
Scharnhorst write, "Co-operation on a large scale , such as Mr. Baker
invites in the case of the Sahara, would go far to change the pollitical
climate of the nations. Just as Mr. Baker's reclamation plan envisages the
creation of micro climates in the Sahara, that will eventually coalesce into
a beneficial climate over the whole area, so will the total African venture
in itself act like a microclimate, which will eventually expand to the whole
of our fractous and contending planet."

Nice eh ?

Maybe Masanobu Fukuoka's idea about mixing all the seeds of the world
together and dropping them on the desert is a bit random, but there are many
good reasons why the deserts should be reafforested.

Looking for the perfect millenium project which would unite the peoples of
the planet, and reinstate an earth caring culture, I would say that the
reafforestation of the Sahara would be a project hard to top !

Rob.
  
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From: Hans Thijs <Hans.Thijs@molgen.el.wau.nl>
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I am a Dutch geneticist on the verge of writing my doctoral thesis. I am 
planning an escape from laboratory science directly afterwards and I am 
looking for a place to obtain hands-on experience in permaculture. 
As I am a complete novice in this field, I envision a year (or so) of 
working on an existing permaculture farm on a bed/food basis. I would be 
accompanied by my wife (she's an environmental biologist) and child (to 
be born soon). Any information that might lead us to the perfect site 
will be highly appreciated.

With best wishes, Hans Thijs   

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Is sombody in ottawa(Canada) or close to it working in the field.
I am at ottawa U. doing a PhD, but I am looking for all the
information I can gather to bring back to my country(Venezuela) and star
doing something with a meaning.            
I appreciate any information 
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Please forward to colleagues and relevant lists:

Institute For Bioregional Studies

This summer learn practical skills and knowledge 
to design and implement sustainable systems 
that are in harmony with the natural world.

Permaculture Design Course  August 4-17
(at the Spry Point Ark, formerly the New Alchemy Institute)
Permaculture is about self-reliance, growing food, and building 
energy-efficient structures. The PDC teaches the principles by 
which sustainable systems become responsive to economic, social 
and environmental elements. Graduates will be certified as 
'Permaculture Designers' and will be entitled to use the term 
in the pursuit of livelihood.
Permaculture Instructors: 
Dr. John Todd and Nancy Jack Todd, Monica Kuhn, Phil Ferraro, 
Garry Lean, Dr. Dan Earle and others.


Eco-Cities Design Colloquia: 
Building Sustainable Communities
August 18-21 Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island

The Challenge
Cities have become global environmental parasites; processing 
food, fuel, energy and consuming resources well beyond their 
boundaries. In the 21st century, cities must function in very 
different ways or they will undermine their own survival and 
that of their inhabitants.

Action Plan
An outstanding group of internationally known facilitators will 
work with participants to develop a model eco-city along the 
Charlotetown waterfront. The new plans will budget our 
resources, conserve energy, utilize renewable energy 
technologies, build long lasting structures, develop efficient 
public transportation, reduce and recycle wastes and supply 
staple foods locally.

Affordable Housing / Straw-bale Construction Workshop
August 25-27
This hands-on workshop wil explain the mechanics of building 
with straw-bales and designing a home for energy efficiency.

For More Information contact: Institute for Bioregional Studies
email: pferraro@cycor.ca
Mail: 449 University Avenue, Suite 126 
Charlottetown, PE C1A 8K3   (Send $2 for brochure)
Phone: (902) 892-9578


Phil Ferraro, Director
Institute for Bioregional Studies
449 University Avenue Suite 126            "Developing Local Solutions to 
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island	    Global Problems"
Canada   C1A 8K3
(902) 892-9578

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                        VANCOUVER FOODNET          April 26, 1996

This is an effort to reduce the cost of living for ecologically-
friendly residents of the Vancouver area.  This effort is built
on a vision of shared work, resources and benefits.  The benefit
in this case is chemical-free food grown right in our own
neighborhoods.

IT WORKS LIKE THIS:  We find:

   - SITES (LAND) near where we work, live or otherwise spend
     time appropriate for food production, i.e. accessible with
     sun and water available, preferably where at least one
     member of "the net" lives, ideally on land owned by a
     member.  Hydro and railroad rights of way and other vacant
     land is possible, although there are risks from thievery and
     vandalism.  Also needed are...
   - PEOPLE with some free time to do the gardening,
   - TOOLS, including transportation of materials and food,
   - KNOWLEDGE of gardening and urban agriculture and food
     processing and preservation, a small amount of...
   - MONEY to purchase seeds and other necessities, and
   - ORGANIZATION to put it all together.

All participants share in the harvest, which will be bountiful if
we do it right.  There should also be enough to give away to
those with need who somehow fall "into the net".  I am personally
not interested in keeping track of hours worked, money or other
forms of value contributed, and I don't think that anyone should
be paid wages.  The tangible reward will be food and any
incidental spin-offs which this kind of cooperation and synergy
can produce.  It is, perhaps, an exercise in a different way of
working, centred around food production, a need we all share.
Any effort at comparison of value, such as "my effort is worth
more than your contribution of land or money (or vice versa)"
will create conflict.  This is our opportunity to see the larger
picture, which means taking care of each other and ourselves.
This is for those who want to go beyond the formal economy.

It may also be possible to include:

   - Care and harvest of existing fruit and nut trees
   - Food processing, preserving and storage
   - Bulk buying from farmers/producers of organic food
   - Fun social events with live entertainment.

IF THIS INTERESTS YOU, PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS AND
GET BACK TO ME WITH THE INFORMATION.  EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT
INTERESTED, PLEASE PASS THIS ALONG TO OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE.

          CABOT LYFORD,  phone: 873-4204
                         email: clyford@alternatives.com


QUESTIONS:

Do you know of any good GROWING SITES in Vancouver where you and
your friends can have access and where sun and water are
available?  If so, where?  Who is the contact person?  What is
their phone number?  Are you the best person to make arrangements
for gardening there?

Do you know of any established fruit or nut trees, grape or kiwi
vines or other PERENNIAL FOOD SOURCES which lack care and
harvesting?  The owners could become members and benefit by
having help with the care of their land, in addition to receiving
a variety of foods.  There may also be "wild" or abandoned food
sources close to you.  Keep your eyes peeled.

Do you have any FRIENDS who live near you or near a growing site
who might be interested?  My preference is for a commute-free
foodnet.  I think we also need this to be de-centralized, which
means everyone must be responsible for their own part to play.

Do you have any TOOLS or the use of a VEHICLE which you can
contribute?  It is best to organize without dependency on
automobiles, but things like manure and large produce may be best
handled with powered vehicles.

What kind of TIME can you contribute?

What SKILLS can you contribute?  Are you an organizer?  A
gardener?  A willing worker?

Do you have skills, space or tools for PRESERVING AND STORING?
This could include drying, canning, freezing, root cellaring,
etc..

Can you help with BUYING supplies if needed?  The aim is to spend
as little national currency as possible, using modern alchemy to
change garbage into gold, but there may be need for small
expenditures.  There are advantages in bringing together people
with diverse talents and contributions.

What are your FAVOURITE FOODS (fruits, herbs and vegetables)?

Is there anything I've missed?

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To: permaculture <permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu>
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Important Notice: Please forward to others.

Permaculture Design Course   August 4-17
Spry Point Ark (Formerly The New Alchemy Institute)
King's County, Prince Edward Island

Introduction:
Through lecture, discussion, observation and hands-on 
learning, students will develop the practical skills and 
knowledge to design and implement sustainable 
systems that are in harmony with the natural world.
With roots in the design of sustainable agricultural systems 
permaculture has evolved into a program for designing 
ecological communities and restoring  urban centers. It is 
about self-reliance, growing food, and building creative, 
beautiful, energy-efficient structures from local materials. 
Permaculture principles and design methodologies  can  be 
applied anywhere. 
in the world.   

Course Topics:
*Permaculture methodlogy *Ethics  of  permaculture 
*Observation  Skills *Bioregional Mapping*
Local  Self-Reliance *Site  Analysis *Medicinal  Herb 
*Organic  Agriculture *Agroforestry  Systems
*Edibile  Landscaping *Keyline  System
*Land Trusts & Communities *Aquaculture *Greenhouses
*Erosion  Control *Soil  Microbiology
*Sustainable  Forestry *Ecosystem  Restoration
*Livestock  and  Wildlife *Urban  Permaculture
*Appropriate  Energy *Working  in  the  South 
*Formal & Informal  Economies
and  much,  much  more.......

Instructors: 
Monica Kuhn, architect and co-founder of Rooftop Gardens 
Resource Group. Frequent teacher of permaculture and urban 
greening issues.

Garry Lean, permaculture designer and professor  of 
Integrated Resource 
Management at Sir Sandford  Fleming College.

Phil Ferraro, Director, Institute for Bioregional Studies, 
and Permaculture Designer.

Dr. Dan Earle, Professor Landscape Architecture; Louisiana 
State University. Permaculture designer.

Dr. John Todd and Nancy Jack Todd, Co-founders of the New 
Alchemy Institute and Ocean Arks International. Pioneers in 
biological technologies and ecological planning.

Plus: Guest Speakers involved in sustainable agricultural, 
renewable energy, ecological planning and green economics.


Certification: 
Course graduates will be certified as Permaculture Design 
Trainees.  Graduates are entitled to use the term 
"Permaculture" in the pursuit of livelihood, and 
educational uses.

Permaculture Course Site and Facilities
    The Spry Point Ark was constructed on a 96 acre 
penninsula in eastern PEI, by the New Alchemy Institute in 
the 1970's. Its original purpose was a research 
centre for the science and practice of ecological 
technologies. Today it is managed as a "three star" inn and 
restaurant by the local community cooperative. The beautiful 
natural surroundings, panoramic views, hikng trails, cliffs 
and sandy beaches make this an ideal setting for visiting, 
learning and relaxing.
The PDC participants will develop a site plan for the entire 
penninsula and evaluate its potential for creating an 'eco-
village'.
Classes will be held in the barn. Morning and evening meals 
will be served in the restaurant with a noon time meal served 
outdoors.
A group camping site is being established however 
participants can make separate arrangements to stay in the 
inn. You can call the Ark Inn at  1 800 665-2400 or 
(902) 583-2400 to reserve a room during the PDC.

Some precepts basic to both permaculture  and  
bioregionalism:
*	Basis  in  ecology.*Basing  unique  culture  on indigenous    
	materials.                                                                                                                   
*	High  degree  of  local  self-sufficiency.
*	Observation / awareness  of boundaries  of  plant  and  
	animal  communities.
*	Preservation  and restoration  of native  plant 
	communities.
*	Aesthetics.
*	Worker-owned,  enterprises with  non-exploitative 
	relationships.
*	Decentralized,  participatory, democratic  governance.
*	Recognizing relationships between elements  in  the  system 
	and  maximizing     
	symbiotic relationships.

Getting From There to Here
    Travelers can fly into the Charlottetown Airport. 
Guaranteed lowest fares can be arranged by MacQueen's Travel 
agency. Ph.:1(800) 969-2822, fax: (902) 894-4547,
email: biketour@peinet.pe.ca
    By car, take the ferry from either Pictou, Nova Scotia or 
Cape Tormentine, New Brunswick. 
    To get to Spry Point, head east to Rt. 310 and Little 
Pond, PEI. Turn at the 
sign for the Ark Inn. (Approximately. one hour. east of 
Charlottetown.)








Summer Program Fees

Permaculture Design Course: (August 4-17) $765.
Course fees for USA Residents: At current rates of exchange 
this is less than U.S.$550.00. 
(Please pay in Canadian currency.)



   Bioregionalism, is an attempt to understand the 
interdependencies of people and the environment so that 
society can become more conscious of its heritage and the 
particular regions that sustains us. The "bioregional" 
perspective means that our focus is on the design and 
evolution of healthy, interdependent and self-reliant 
communities. 
  Today we can not just, "Think  Globally and  Act Locally". 
We also need to, "Think Long Term and Act Now". Therefore, 
IBS was founded to demonstrate the recent, ecologically 
oriented, scientific, social and technological achievements 
that are relevant  to  achieving the goal of an ecological  
society.

For more information on the PDC and the Eco-Cities Design 
Colloquia (August 18-21) or the Affordable Housing, 
Strawbale, Construction Workshop (August 25-27) reply to this 
message. For a hard copy of our brochure send $2 to IBS. 
Thank you.


Phil Ferraro, Director
Institute for Bioregional Studies
449 University Avenue Suite 126            "Developing Local Solutions to 
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island	    Global Problems"
Canada   C1A 8K3
(902) 892-9578

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Eco-Cities Design Colloquia: Designing Sustainable Communities
August 18-21 Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island

The Challenge
    Cities are the most complex products of humankind. They 
have always been centres of human endeavor and artistic 
excellence. During the 20th century they have become global 
environmental parasites; processing food, fuel, energy and 
consuming resources well beyond their boundaries. In the 21st 
century, cities must function in very different ways or they 
will undermine their own survival and that of their 
inhabitants.

Action Plans
    An outstanding group of facilitators will work with 
participants to develop a model eco-city along the 
Charlotetown waterfront; on lands the city is currently 
soliciting proposals for. 
The new plans will offer organizational approaches that budget 
our resources, conserve energy, utilize renewable energy 
technologies, build long lasting structures, develop efficient 
public transportation, reduce and recycle wastes and supply 
staple foods locally.
 
Presentation and Workshop Topics:
* Contemporary Perceptions of Eco-Planning

* Identifying Issues and Establishing Planning Goals

* Inventory and Analysis of the Physical Environment

* Precepts of Eco-Design

* Neo-Traditional Design/New Urbanism

* Permaculture Design and Bioregional Planning

* Urban forestry, and Urban Agricultural Systems

* Appropriate Technologies (food, energy, shelter)

* Eco-Planning for Wildlife and for Humans 

* Strategies for Regenerative Design

* Guiding Principles for Regional Planning

* Waste as a Resource

* Economic Policy and Transition

* Applying Ecosystem Planning Concepts

* Case Studies

Who Should Come
Architects, Builders, Landscape Architects, Landscapers, 
Planners, Artists, Farmers, Engineers, Technicians, Urban 
Activists, Permaculture Designers,and Citizens of Urban 
Neighborhoods whose interest is to renew cities so that they 
continue to be places where people come together to celebrate 
the creativity of urban life.


Site and Facilities
Simply known as "the Island" to Canadians, Prince Edward 
Island is a safe, enjoyable destination for vacationers of all 
ages. Charlottetown is the provincial capital and the 
"Birthplace of Confederation". It offers hundreds of 
attractions and activities to suit all tastes.

Participants will stay in 'co-housing' apartments on 
the University of Prince Edward Island campus. 

Breakfast and snack foods will be provided in each apartment. 
Evening meals can be prepared in the apartments or participants 
can dine out. Stores, restaurants and entertainment venues are 
within walking distance.

Workshops will be a short walk or bike ride down the newly 
completed Confederation Trail, which runs through the centre of 
the city, to the waterfront.

List of Invited Speakers to Date:

Dr. Doug Aberely, editor, Futures by Design: The Practice 
of Ecological Planning and Boundaries of Home: Mapping for 
Local Empowerment.

Dr. David Bell, Dean, Faculty of Environmental Studies, 
York University

Dr. Janis Birkeland, Co-Director, Centre for Environmental 
Philosophy, Planning & Design, Univ. of Canberra, Australia

Monique Cote, Architect, Permaculture Designer

Dr. Ray Cote, Director, School of Environmental Planning, 
Dalhousie University. Ray, has developed a system for 
designing industrial parks as closed ecosystems, recycling and 
reusing wastes.

David Daughton, Former coordinator of the 
Atlantic Peoples Housing Coop and National Chairperson 
of the Canadian Environmental Network.Certified co-op 
housing federation. Chair of the Health Information 
Resource Centre.

Dr. Dan Earle, Professor of Landscape Architecture, 
Lousiana State University, Permaculture Designer

Phil Ferraro, Director, IBS, Conference Coordinator 
and Permaculture Designer.

Ole Hammarlund, Architect

Mike Kohler, Architect and Town Planner

Karen Lipps, Landscape Architect

Malcolm Lodge, Engineer, Professional Engineer, Wind Energy 
Technology ExpertPresident, Island Technologies Inc, "Wind 
Energy and Electrical Engineers"Charlottetown, P,E.I. Founder 
of the Atlantic Wind Test Site, Canada'sNational Laboratory 
for wind energy research and development at North Cape, P.E.I.

John Massengale, AIA is an architect, town planner and writer. 
He is co-author, with Robert A.M. Stern, of *New York 1900, 
Metropolitan Architecture & Urbanism, 1890-1914* and *The 
Anglo-American Suburb*, and is writing *The End of Architecture, 
The End of Sprawl* with a grant from the Graham Foundation for 
Advanced Studies in the Visual Arts. Mr. Massengale was Town 
Architect of Seaside, Florida in 1986, and 
is a member of the Congress for the New Urbanism.

Ernie Morello, Charlottetown Area Development Corporation

Don Poole, City Planner, Charlotetown, PEI

Dr. William Rees, Dean, Community and Rural Planing, 
UBC. Bill, coined the  term, "Our Ecological Footprint" for a 
system used to estimate  our sustainability .

Mark Roseland, National Round Table on the Environment 
and the Economy. Author of, Toward Sustainable Communities: 
a Resource Book for Municipal and Local Governments,

David Slabotsky, President, Atlantic Resource Conversion Co-op
Parks Manager, Wolfville, Nova Scotia.

Dr. John Todd, Co-founder of the New Alchemy Institute and 
President of Ocean Arks International. A pioneer in the use of 
ecosystems as a form of technology-Living Macines-for the 
treatment of wastes, purifying water and food production. Co-
authored: "Reinhabiting Cities and Towns: Designing for 
Sustainability", "The Village as Social Ecology", "From Eco-
Cities to Living Machines" and numerous other works on 
sustainable living.

Nancy Jack Todd, Co-founder of the New Alchemy Institute and 
editor of 'Annals of the Earth'. Co-winner of the Swiss 
Threshold Award, Friends of United Nations Environment 
Programme Award and the Chrysler Award for Innovation in 
Design. Currently working on a book about women and ecology.

and others.

Getting From There to Here
Travelers can fly into the Charlottetown Airport. Guaranteed 
lowest fares can be arranged by MacQueen's Travel agency. 
Ph.:1(800) 969-2822, 
fax: (902) 894-4547,  email: biketour@peinet.pe.ca
    
By car, take the ferry from either Pictou, Nova Scotia or Cape 
Tormentine, New Brunswick. 
    
To get to Spry Point, head east to Rt. 310 and Little Pond, 
PEI. Turn at the sign for the Ark Inn. (Approximately. one 
hour. east of Charlottetown.)
    
Accomodations for the Eco-Cities conference are at the 
University of Prince Edward Island. Participants will stay in 
Blanchard Hall; located on the corner of University Avenue and 
Belvidere Road, Charlottetown.


Summer Program Fees

Permaculture Design Course (PDC): (August 4-17) $765.
Course fees for USA Residents: At current rates of exchange 
this is less than U.S.$550.00. (Please pay in Canadian 
currency.)

Eco-Cities Colloquia (August 18-21)
$600.00

Affordable Housing / Straw-bale Workshop (August 23-25) $150.00

PDC plus Eco-Cities Colloquia $1175.00.

PDC, Eco-Cities Colloquia plus Housing Workshop $1250.00


Childcare 
Special arrangements can be made for childcare. Please call IBS 
prior to registering.

Some Other Reasons for Coming to Prince Edward Island

PEI is known for Its beauty, friendly people and relaxed 
lifestyle. It is also a magical blend of sand, clay and sea 
bursting with festivals, events & exciting family 
attractions.There are major events occuring before, during and 
after the IBS programs. Come early! Stay late! And play on our 
island! For more information call Tourism PEI at: 1-800-4PEI

For more information on this program or the Permacultutre 
Design Course and Housing Workshop Scheduled by IBS, reply to 
this message or send $2 for a print copy of our brochure.


Phil Ferraro, Director
Institute for Bioregional Studies
449 University Avenue Suite 126            "Developing Local Solutions to 
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island	    Global Problems"
Canada   C1A 8K3
(902) 892-9578

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From: FRANK DUNN <FRANK.DUNN@f503.n382.z1.fidonet.org>
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Subject: Floating Gardens
 
Hi All

Adjoining my property I have a lot that is on a slough fed from the Columbia
river. I am looking for information on floating gardens that can produce
edible plants. I noticed that weeds grow quite well on my floating dock and
was wondering if anyone had any experience along this line of agriculture. 
It would seem that the nutrient factor is there along with the low saline
amount.
Semi hydroponics or what?

                             Frank Dunn
                       On The Columbia River
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Wealth is an abundance of energy provided as vegeatable and animal and =
other materials and or services.
Energy stores potential wealth.
A community can aim to contain its wealth by buying local products and =
services.  It can also maximise its natural resources such as solar and =
wind, clean water and soil.
Through the passive use of free energy sources our energy supply is not =
limited.  We can increase the storage of the energy supplied by the use =
of natural stores such as trees (which store water and sun through =
photosynthesis) We can increase storage of rain water with dams and =
swales and soil cover (mulch) and we can increase the capture of =
condensation with canopy on food gardens.
By ensuring that all persons in the community are valued and well =
employed we also maximise the communities wealth.
When we view wealth as that which comes from energy especially natural =
energy sources, we can see that we all have the potential for greater =
clean wealth.
One of the current abuses of wealth is the use of ancient stores of =
wealth to our own detriment - i.e. pollution from fossil fuels, loss of =
diversity from forest destruction, loss of soil from broadacre farming =
and more.
=20
Future generations are going to have two major debts to carry before =
they can even store wealth:
1. They will be accustomed to the false wealth levels enjoyed by the =
generations which used up fossil fuels (stored wealth)
2. They will be spending wealth cleaning up the mess. (and many today =
are already doing this)

We can aim to both enjoy clean wealth and store it for future =
generations.  We can establish and develop cultures that are in tune =
with the resources they depend upon, we can all aim to be productive in =
a wide range of skills including being responsible for our food on the =
table.
April

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Here is some info about a 
Permaculture Design certification course I am 
planning to take in June. It should be great. Feel 
free to e-mail ( clifford_may@txinfinet.com ) if 
you have any questions. 
Planning is underway to have audio/visual recordings
made for use in the instructor's Permaculture CD-ROM
project. 
--Clifford. 

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PRESS RELEASE
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The National Water Center
HCR 4 Box 354, Blanco, Texas 78606
Contact:	Patricia Du Bose Michael
Phone:		(210) 833-2440
FAX:		Call First
Austin/Alternate Contact:  Clifford  May
Phone:		(512) 458-3210
FAX:		Call First


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


ECOLOGICAL DESIGN TRAINING

          Design That Serves Both Nature and Culture

Austin, Texas, May 1 -- 
Ecological Design Training leading to certification in 
Permaculture Design is being offered to all folks 
interested in practical, personal conservation, 
regeneration and stewardship. Sponsored by The National 
Water Center, a 501 (c)3 organization, and Casa de Luz 
Community Center, a non-profit organization, instructor 
Patricia Du Bose Michael's Ecological Design Training will 
be held at Casa de Luz Community Center, 1701 Toomey Road, 
Austin, Texas, from Saturday June 15, 1996 through Sunday 
June 23, 1996. Permaculture is the harmonious integration 
of people into the landscape in such a way that the land 
grows in richness and aesthetic beauty.

Design is the link between science and how we build our 
communities. The Right Livelihood Award (the Alternative 
Nobel Prize) was given to a brilliant systems designer from 
Australia, Bill Mollison, in 1981 for his Permaculture 
Design Course. The course is the only design training to 
ever win a Nobel scale award. It won because it works and 
is appropriate all over the world. Patricia Du Bose Michael 
MFA is a student of Bill Mollison who specializes in design 
training for our local bioregion [A bioregion is the group 
of ecosystems in a regional drainage basin and associated 
offshore areas.]. Patricia quit teaching architecture at 
the University of Oklahoma in 1974 to devote her career to 
design that serves both nature and culture.

Patricia understands that "Every thing that has been built 
has been designed, and often with little information. Our 
buildings, roads, institutions and landscapes determine 
what our maintenance cost and quality of life are. Many of 
us feel like victims of high taxes, crime, ugly cities, 
high utility cost, poor education and declining social 
values. We don't understand that each day we contribute to 
that culture we are critical of. Our own unconscious design 
creates our culture, both directly and indirectly. When we 
have good design information, based in science that we can 
understand, we will be able to make the everyday choices 
that will design the culture we want. We start from where 
we are right now. This is a doable way to change the world."

          Training Title, Instructor, Date, Location Etc.

* Title:                Ecological Design Training
* Instructor:           Patricia Du Bose Michael MFA, 
                        Vice Chancellor of the International 
                        Permaculture Academy, an Ecological 
                        Systems Designer specializing in 
                        the Cretaceous landscape. Her 
                        studies, teaching and work have 
                        been in the U.S., Australia, New 
                        Zealand, Europe, Canada, Central 
                        America and Asia.
* Date:                 June 15 through 23, 1996   
                        (9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. daily)
* Location:             Casa de Luz Community Center, 
                        1701 Toomey Road, Austin, Texas
* Diploma:              Permaculture Designer certification
* Prerequisites:        None if registrant is 18 or over; 
                        instructor's approval if registrant 
                        is under 18.
* Tuition:              $350.00
* Registration:         Send name, address, telephone number, 
                        and $100.00 non-refundable deposit 
                        to The National Water Center. The 
                        deposit is due by June 10, 1996.	
                        Make checks payable to The National 
                        Water Center.	
                        Mail to 8801 Scarlet Circle, 
                        Austin, Texas, 78737.
* Balance Due:          Balance due at check-in, 
                        June 15, 1996.
* Refunds:              No refunds after check-in.

          Additional Details

Patricia scheduled the training so teachers can do the 
training during the summer break between school years. 
The training is usually done in two weeks for a minimum 
of $550.00. Patricia wants to respect that for the 
average person taking off two weeks of work and spending 
$550.00 is a lot so she has created a 72 hour certification 
course in Permaculture Design in eight and a half days, 
beginning on a Saturday morning and ending on a Sunday 
after lunch, for only $350.00.

No prior education or experience is required. 
Expect no tests or papers; just fun, information 
and hands on design experience in a Texas-friendly 
learning atmosphere--like an adult summer camp! 
Everyone who is present for the 72 hours of core topic 
instruction will qualify for certification in 
Permaculture Design. The training will use a variety 
of effective learning strategies to maximize the value 
of the training for all present. Those who may wish to 
attend only some of the 72 core topic instruction hours 
are welcome to do so as a registered auditor. The same 
registration, tuition and deposit requirements apply to 
those who are auditing the training as to those who are 
to receive certification in Permaculture Design.

For additional information or a registration form 
call Patricia at (210) 833-2440 
or call Clifford at (512) 458-3210 (all hours).

Topics include:
  Public Health
  Ecological Accounting
  Recycling
  Climate
  Environmental Psychology
  Biological Pest Management
  Social and Educational Ideas
  Aquaculture
  Energy
  Soil
  Gardening
  Forestry
  Settlement Design
  Local Economics
  Ethics
  Principles of Natural Systems
  Patterns in Nature and Design
  Reading the Landscape / Site Analysis
  Watershed Design
  Ecosystem Restoration
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        "'SOLARROB@aol.com'" <SOLARROB@aol.com>
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>>What is taking place in -Australia-, in reference to phasing out =
fossil
fuels, and the building -Sustainable Communities ? I would hope the =
-forces
that be- are hard at work making the move toward Sustainable Community
Development... How is Australia addressing the -Concepts- of Agenda 21 =
?;
this -document- was the outgrowth of the 1992 Rio Conference..

Hello thankyou for your reply,
1. Australia is a big consumer of fossil fuels on per capita basis =
(18million people only in the nation)
2. We are also big polluters and contributors to the greenhouse effect.  =
Yes we are aware that fossil fuels are finite, unfortunately though we =
are very good at finding more supplies, and recently we have found more =
off shore.  We have so far prevented mining under the great barrier reef =
(the most visually spectacular thing I've seen in 20 countries I have =
visited to date)  In the 70's there was great resitance by the fuel =
companies to fund solar, now they are doing it themselves.  Also there =
has been a big break through in battery storage of energy, apparently a =
system has been devised at NSW university that completely revolutionise =
battery power as it is supposed to be self-generating ( the project is =
still well guarded).  It must contain the energy well to obey thermal =
dynamics laws.
Australians have the biggest rate of skin cancer in the world I think. =
We are all very aware of the hole in the ozone - for us it is not open =
to debate anymore.  All our children have to wear hats at school or are =
barred from the playing.
3. Our politicians say the right things in world arenas and they seem to =
really want to reduce our pollution.  On a federal basis they re-forest =
areas while at the same time allow deforestation of old growth areas =
within ear shot of protesting greenies. =20
4. However, the greenies still keep their money at the bank, the banks =
fund this pollutive ventures.
I think on the whole, that practicing permaculture on a the fringes of a =
small University and steel industry city that still has beautiful clean =
beaches, has been accepted as a positive lifestyle by everyone I have =
meet.
In northern sydney the electricity company has made huge strides.  =
Through rationalism, the generation and sales of electricity were =
seperated.  This enabled sales to buy solar and other generation from =
other suppiers, there are solar homes capable of returning the =
electricity to the grid and it is bought!!  Also people can choose to =
pay a little more and get renewable electricity.  Solar hot water is =
still more expensive initially, but there are many owners who think it =
has been a worthwhile investment.
I think we have a good attitude but as yet still inadequate knowledge as =
to what measures we as individuals can use.  Permaculture has become a =
household name for many, and reduction and recycling is growing well.  =
We need more gardens and demonstration sites as this seems to be the =
fastest way to get people back into responsibility and wholistically =
productive lives.
April
Permaculture Visions International Correspondence Courses
We would appreciate info on solar too.

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I have just moved to the Pacific Northwest (Kirkland, Wa) and I would like to
develop my backyard orchard into a permaculture landscape. Do you have any
information or addresses I would find useful?
				Orville T. Murphy

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read Binda Colebrook*s book:  Martitime Gardening in the PNW
for diverse crops to grow here.  I have 26 items growing
that overwintered from last year, and have not planted a 
seed yet (they are on my dining room table!). I developed
a liberated salad garden mix.

On 5 May 1996, Orville T. Murphy wrote:

> I have just moved to the Pacific Northwest (Kirkland, Wa) and I would like to
> develop my backyard orchard into a permaculture landscape. Do you have any
> information or addresses I would find useful?
> 				Orville T. Murphy
> 

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Are there any technologies available, such as reed bed,marshland and 
wetland areas, utilising filtration methods for procesing animal wastes?


regards,


Martin Askey


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Enclosed is information on the summer programs hosted by the 
Institute  for Bioregional Studies. We believe that these 
programs will be the most exciting and promising programs that 
we have ever offered so please, forward the message to others 
who may also be interested. 

These details can also be found on our newly created homepage;   
http://www.cycor.ca/IBS/   

If you have any questions, respond by e-mail or call. For a 
hard copy of our brochure (not necessary to register) send $2.

This summer learn practical skills and knowledge to design and 
implement sustainable systems that are in harmony with the 
natural world.

Permaculture Design Course  August 4-17, (at the Spry Point 
Ark, formerly the New Alchemy Institute)

Eco-Cities Design Colloquia: Building Sustainable Communities 
August 18-21,   Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island

Affordable Housing / Straw-bale Construction Workshop 
August 25-27 
This hands-on workshop wil explain the mechanics of building 
with straw-bales and designing a home for energy efficiency. 
*************************************************************** 
***************************************************************  
Permaculture Design Course:   August 4-17,  Spry Point Ark 
(Formerly The New Alchemy Institute) 
King's County, Prince Edward Island

Introduction: 
Through lecture, discussion, observation and hands-on learning, 
participants will develop the practical skills and knowledge to 
design and implement sustainable systems that are in harmony 
with the natural world. With roots in the design of sustainable 
agricultural systems permaculture has evolved into a program 
for designing ecological communities and restoring  urban 
centers. It is about self-reliance, growing food, and building 
creative, beautiful, energy-efficient structures from local 
materials. Permaculture principles and design methodologies  
can  be applied anywhere. in the world.   

Course Topics: 
*Permaculture methodlogy 
*Ethics  of  permaculture 
*Observation  Skills 
*Bioregional Mapping 
* Local  Self-Reliance 
*Site  Analysis 
*Medicinal  Herbs 
*Organic  Agriculture 
*Agroforestry  Systems 
*Edibile  Landscaping 
*Keyline  System 
*Land Trusts & Communities 
*Aquaculture 
*Greenhouses 
*Erosion  Control 
*Soil  Microbiology 
*Sustainable  Forestry 
*Ecosystem  Restoration 
*Livestock  and  Wildlife 
*Urban  Permaculture 
*Appropriate  Energy 
*Working  in  the  South 
*Formal & Informal  Economies 
and  much,  much  more.......

Instructors: 
Monica Kuhn, architect and co-founder of Rooftop 
Gardens Resource Group. Frequent teacher of permaculture and 
urban greening issues.

Garry Lean, permaculture designer and professor  of Integrated 
Resource Management at Sir Sandford  Fleming College.

Phil Ferraro, Director, Institute for Bioregional Studies, and 
Permaculture Designer.

Dr. Dan Earle, Professor Landscape Architecture; Louisiana 
State University. Permaculture designer.

Dr. John Todd and Nancy Jack Todd, Co-founders of the New 
Alchemy Institute and Ocean Arks International. Pioneers in 
biological technologies and ecological planning.

Plus: Guest Speakers involved in sustainable agricultural, 
renewable energy, ecological planning and green economics.


Certification: 
Course graduates will be certified as Permaculture Design 
Trainees.  Graduates are entitled to use the term 
"Permaculture" in the pursuit of livelihood, and educational 
uses.

Permaculture Course Site and Facilities     
The Spry Point Ark was constructed on a 96 acre penninsula in 
eastern PEI, by the New Alchemy Institute in the 1970's. Its 
original purpose was a research centre for the science and 
practice of ecological technologies. Today it is managed as a 
"three star" inn and restaurant by the local community 
cooperative. The beautiful natural surroundings, panoramic 
views, hikng trails, cliffs and sandy beaches make this an 
ideal setting for visiting, learning and relaxing. The PDC 
participants will develop a site plan for the entire penninsula 
and evaluate its potential for creating an 'eco- village'. 
Classes will be held in the barn. Morning and evening meals 
will be served in the restaurant with a noon time meal served 
outdoors. A group camping site is being established however 
participants can make separate arrangements to stay in the inn. 
You can call the Ark Inn at  1 800 665-2400 or (902) 583-2400 
to reserve a room during the PDC.

Some precepts basic to both permaculture  and  bioregionalism: 
* Basis  in  ecology. 
* Basing  unique  culture  on indigenous  materials.                                                                                                                   
* High  degree  of  local  self-sufficiency. 
* Observation / awareness  of boundaries  of  plant  and  
	animal  communities. 
* Preservation  and restoration  of native  plant 
	communities. 
* Aesthetics. 
* Worker-owned,  enterprises with  non-exploitative 
	relationships. 
* Decentralized,  participatory, democratic  governance. 
* Recognizing relationships between elements  in  the  system 
	and  maximizing symbiotic relationships. 
************************************************************** 
************************************************************** 
Eco-Cities Design Colloquia: 
Designing Sustainable Communities 
August 18-21,     Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island

The Challenge     
Cities are the most complex products of humankind. They have 
always been centres of human endeavor and artistic excellence. 
During the 20th century they have become global environmental 
parasites; processing food, fuel, energy and consuming 
resources well beyond their boundaries. In the 21st century, 
cities must function in very different ways or they will 
undermine their own survival and that of their inhabitants.

Action Plans     
An outstanding group of facilitators will work with 
participants to develop a model eco-city along the Charlotetown 
waterfront; on lands the city is currently soliciting proposals 
for. The new plans will offer organizational approaches that 
budget our resources, conserve energy, utilize renewable energy 
technologies, build long lasting structures, develop efficient 
public transportation, reduce and recycle wastes and supply 
staple foods locally.  

Presentation and Workshop Topics: 
* Contemporary Perceptions of Eco-Planning

* Identifying Issues and Establishing Planning Goals

* Inventory and Analysis of the Physical Environment

* Precepts of Eco-Design

* Neo-Traditional Design/New Urbanism

* Permaculture Design and Bioregional Planning

* Urban forestry, and Urban Agricultural Systems

* Appropriate Technologies (food, energy, shelter)

* Eco-Planning for Wildlife and for Humans 

* Strategies for Regenerative Design

* Guiding Principles for Regional Planning

* Waste as a Resource

* Economic Policy and Transition

* Applying Ecosystem Planning Concepts

* Case Studies

Who Should Come 
Architects, Builders, Landscape Architects, Landscapers, 
Planners, Artists, Developers, Farmers, Engineers, Technicians, 
Teachers, Urban Activists, Permaculture Designers, and Citizens 
of Urban Neighborhoods whose interest is to renew cities so 
that they continue to be places where people come together to 
celebrate the creativity of urban life.


Site and Facilities 
Simply known as "the Island" to Canadians, Prince Edward Island 
is a safe, enjoyable destination for vacationers of all ages. 
Charlottetown is the provincial capital and the "Birthplace of 
Confederation". It offers hundreds of attractions and 
activities to suit all tastes.

Participants will stay in 'co-housing' apartments, at Blanchard 
Hall, on the University of Prince Edward Island campus. 

Breakfast and snack foods will be provided in each apartment. 
Evening meals can be prepared in the apartments or participants 
can dine out. Stores, restaurants and entertainment venues are 
within walking distance.

Workshops will be a short walk or bike ride down the newly 
completed Confederation Trail, which runs through the centre of 
the city, to the waterfront.

List of Invited Speakers to Date:

Dr. Doug Aberely, editor, Futures by Design: The Practice of 
Ecological Planning and Boundaries of Home: Mapping for Local 
Empowerment.

Dr. David Bell, Dean, Faculty of Environmental Studies, York 
University

Dr. Janis Birkeland, Co-Director, Centre for Environmental 
Philosophy, Planning & Design, Univ. of Canberra, Australia

Monique Cote, Architect, Permaculture Designer

Dr. Ray Cote, Director, School of Environmental Planning, 
Dalhousie University. Ray, has developed a system for designing 
industrial parks as closed ecosystems, recycling and reusing 
wastes.

David Daughton, Former coordinator of the Atlantic Peoples 
Housing Coop and National Chairperson of the Canadian 
Environmental Network.Certified co-op housing federation. Chair 
of the Health Information Resource Centre.

Dr. Dan Earle, Professor of Landscape Architecture, Lousiana 
State University, Permaculture Designer

Phil Ferraro, Director, IBS, Conference Coordinator and 
Permaculture Designer.

Ole Hammarlund, Architect

Mike Kohler, Architect and Town Planner

Karen Lipps, Landscape Architect

Malcolm Lodge, Professional Engineer, Wind Energy Technology 
Expert, President, Island Technologies Inc, "Wind Energy and 
Electrical Engineers "Charlottetown, P.E.I. Founder of the 
Atlantic Wind Test Site, Canada's National Laboratory for wind 
energy research and development at North Cape, P.E.I.

Christine MacKinnon, Policy and Planning Coordinator, 
Department of Environmental Resources, Prince Edward Island.

John Massengale, AIA, architect, town planner and writer. He is 
co-author, with Robert A.M. Stern, of *New York 1900, 
Metropolitan Architecture & Urbanism, 1890-1914* and *The 
Anglo-American Suburb*, and is writing *The End of 
Architecture, The End of Sprawl* with a grant from the Graham 
Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Visual Arts. Mr. 
Massengale was Town Architect of Seaside, Florida in 1986, and 
is a member of the Congress for the New Urbanism.

Ernie Morello, Charlottetown Area Development Corporation

Don Poole, City Planner, Charlotetown, PEI

Dr. William Rees, Dean, Community and Rural Planing, UBC. Bill, 
coined the  term, "Our Ecological Footprint" for a system used 
to estimate  our sustainability .

David Slabotsky, President, Atlantic Resource Conversion Co-op 
Parks Manager, Wolfville, Nova Scotia.

Dr. John Todd, Co-founder of the New Alchemy Institute and 
President of Ocean Arks International. A pioneer in the use of 
ecosystems as a form of technology-Living Macines-for the 
treatment of wastes, purifying water and food production. Co- 
authored: "Reinhabiting Cities and Towns: Designing for 
Sustainability", "The Village as Social Ecology", "From Eco- 
Cities to Living Machines" and numerous other works on 
sustainable living.

Nancy Jack Todd, Co-founder of the New Alchemy Institute and 
editor of 'Annals of the Earth'. Co-winner of the Swiss 
Threshold Award, Friends of United Nations Environment 
Programme Award and the Chrysler Award for Innovation in 
Design. Currently working on a book about women and ecology.

and others.


Summer Program Fees

Permaculture Design Course: (August 4-17) $725. 

Course fees for USA Residents: At current rates of exchange 
this is less than U.S.$500.00. (Please pay in Canadian 
currency.)

Eco-Cities Colloquia (August 18-21) $495.00

Housing Workshop (August 23-25) $125.00

PDC plus Eco-Cities Colloquia $ 985.00.

PDC, Eco-Cities Colloquia plus Housing Workshop $1050.00


Childcare 
Special arrangements can be made for childcare. Please call IBS 
prior to registering.

Some Other Reasons for Coming to Prince Edward Island

PEI is known for Its beauty, friendly people and relaxed 
lifestyle. It is also a magical blend of sand, clay and sea 
bursting with festivals, events & exciting family 
attractions.There are major events occuring before, during and 
after the IBS programs. Come early! Stay late! And play on our 
island! For more information call Tourism PEI at: 1-800-4PEI



Registration Form 
(Please print-out this form; fill it out and mail it to: 
IBS, 449 University Avenue, Suite 126, 
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada C1A 8K3.)

Name_______________________________________________________

Address____________________________________________________

       ____________________________________________________

Phone  ____________________________________________________

Programs I plan to attend:
____ Permaculture Design Course
____ Eco-Cities Conference
____ Strawbale Const. Workshop

____ Enclosed  is  my  tuition plus  7%  GST. Make payment by 
certified bank cheque or money order in Canadian  funds 
payable to: Institute for Bioregional Studies.

____ I will campout at $5.00/night. During the PDC and/or 
     Strawbale Workshop.

____ Enclosed is my camping fee

or

____  I have called the Ark Inn
(Phone: 1 800 665-2400 or (902) 583-2400) and reserved 
a room for the PDC.
Rooms are payable to The Spry Point Ark Inn at time of 
arrival. A deposit may be required. 

Pets  *Please* No pets.

Families are welcome on site for the additional cost of room 
and board only.


   Bioregionalism, is an attempt to understand the 
interdependencies of people and the environment so that society 
can become more conscious of its heritage and the particular 
regions that sustain us. The "bioregional" perspective means 
that our focus is on the design and evolution of healthy, 
interdependent and self-reliant communities.   Today we cannot 
just, "Think  Globally and  Act Locally". We also need to, 
"Think Long Term and Act Now". Therefore, IBS was founded to 
demonstrate the recent, ecologically oriented, scientific, 
social and technological achievements that are relevant  to  
achieving the goal of an ecological  society.

For more information reply to this message, or visit our www 
site, home page at:  http://www.cycor.ca/IBS/  
or Send $2 for a print copy of our brochure.


Phil Ferraro, Director
Institute for Bioregional Studies
449 University Avenue Suite 126            "Developing Local Solutions to 
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island	    Global Problems"
Canada   C1A 8K3
(902) 892-9578

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On Mon, 6 May 1996, M.A.H.Askey wrote:

> Are there any technologies available, such as reed bed,marshland and 
> wetland areas, utilising filtration methods for procesing animal wastes?
> 
> 
> regards,
> 
> 
> Martin Askey
> 
> 
> 

Greetings,

If human waste qualifies as "animal" then we have what your looking for
treating our town's sewage. The Arcata Marsh is a wetland waste treatment
facility, using the natural filtration system you refer to, that has come
to double as a bird sanctuary on the Humboldt Bay. We have a rudimentary
web site at: 

http://www.humnat.org/wastwet.htm

It is considered to be world class appropriate tech. We plan to 
expand the web site into a virtual distance learning production that 
will detail the process. 

Regards
Christopher M Robinson
The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
cr4@axe.humboldt.edu

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Greetings All

I will be attending the Apple Developers Conference in San Jose, 
California from May 13 - 17 and would like to try and contact any 
Permaculture groups in that area.

I am from Perth, Western Australia, and am a member of the 
Permaculture Association of Western Australia.

Can anyone assist with contacts?

Thanks
Peter
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Edith Cowan University
Pearson Street
Churchlands WA 6018
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Email: p.austin@cowan.edu.au
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		The Permaculture Convergence

will be held near Almonte, Ontario, Canada, September 3 - 8.
	The theme will be: Connecting with Community

For further info contact Maureen McEwan at 613-256-1224 or
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I found some news!

From: XINCLXpermaculture-mg@txinfinet.com (permaculture-mg Conference @
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Here is some info about a
Permaculture Design certification course I am
planning to take in June. It should be great. Feel
free to e-mail ( clifford_may@txinfinet.com ) if
you have any questions.
Planning is underway to have audio/visual recordings
made for use in the instructor's Permaculture CD-ROM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
project.
~
--Clifford.

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Clifford, you make mention of a permaculture CD-ROM under development -- 
are you developing it, or are you working with other people to develop 
it?  Thanks for any info as to who is undertaking the project.

Michael Totten, Director
Center for Renewable Energy & Sustainable Technology (CREST)
****NEW ADDRESS****
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> 
> Here is some info about a
> Permaculture Design certification course I am
> planning to take in June. It should be great. Feel
> free to e-mail ( clifford_may@txinfinet.com ) if
> you have any questions.
> Planning is underway to have audio/visual recordings
> made for use in the instructor's Permaculture CD-ROM
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> project.
> ~
> --Clifford.
> 

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Greetings !!

I have just uploaded my rescently completed dissertation, From Sacred to
Stinking - The Appropriation of Bioregionalism to Holistic Restoration; Case
Study : The Mersey Basin.

It is approx 10,000 words and may be found on the Web at:

http://www.u-net.com/~yesyou/bio/visitor.htm

Please let me know what you think of it. For those whome this does not
concern, I apologise for cross posting.

Here is the abstract:

Since the birth of the Industrial Revolution bioregions around the Planet
have become increasingly degraded, with locally diverse  ecosystems and
cultural systems being replaced by homogenous systems founded within the
parallel paradigms of western science, technology and capitalism.
Environmentalism has failed to break the cultural 'monopoly' of the dominant
knowledge system, yet as reductionist science is integrated with more
holistic ways of viewing the environment, peoples around the globe are 
collectively beginning to realise that it may be possible to reinstate
alternative societies to the 'destructoculture' which is causing so much damage.

In order for this to happen, we must acquire a heightened awareness of the
place within which we live , it's history, the species we share with and the
natural processes that effect the region. With urbanisation ever expanding,
this wisdom applies particularly to city dwellers. There are many
indications that societies around the planet are heading towards 
a more decentralised form. At the forefront of evolutionary social and
ecological change is the New Urbanism which is synthesising the concept of
the village with urban environments in order to instigate a 'green city'
programme. Within this new world order much of the decision making power of
the centralised nation state is transferred into a culture of empowered
individuals and communities. Since the 1980's, bioregionalism has 
recognised  and attempted to integrate these factors into the mainstream.

In Section II, I present a case study of the place within which I live and
work; the Mersey Basin bioregion.   I describe the natural features of this
place, including it's geology, flora and fauna and water systems. I then
outline the anthropogenically derived features such as urbanism, population
distribution and the institutions whose job it is to manage the natural 
elements of the region. I finish by outlining the 11 year old Mersey Basin
project, detailing some of it's achievements and future objectives. 

Regards,

Rob
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Greetings !!

I have just uploaded my rescently completed dissertation, From Sacred to
Stinking - The Appropriation of Bioregionalism to Holistic Restoration; Case
Study : The Mersey Basin.

It is approx 10,000 words and may be found on the Web at:

http://www.u-net.com/~yesyou/bio/visitor.htm

Please let me know what you think of it. For those whome this does not
concern, I apologise for cross posting.

Here is the abstract:

Since the birth of the Industrial Revolution bioregions around the Planet
have become increasingly degraded, with locally diverse  ecosystems and
cultural systems being replaced by homogenous systems founded within the
parallel paradigms of western science, technology and capitalism.
Environmentalism has failed to break the cultural 'monopoly' of the dominant
knowledge system, yet as reductionist science is integrated with more
holistic ways of viewing the environment, peoples around the globe are 
collectively beginning to realise that it may be possible to reinstate
alternative societies to the 'destructoculture' which is causing so much damage.

In order for this to happen, we must acquire a heightened awareness of the
place within which we live , it's history, the species we share with and the
natural processes that effect the region. With urbanisation ever expanding,
this wisdom applies particularly to city dwellers. There are many
indications that societies around the planet are heading towards 
a more decentralised form. At the forefront of evolutionary social and
ecological change is the New Urbanism which is synthesising the concept of
the village with urban environments in order to instigate a 'green city'
programme. Within this new world order much of the decision making power of
the centralised nation state is transferred into a culture of empowered
individuals and communities. Since the 1980's, bioregionalism has 
recognised  and attempted to integrate these factors into the mainstream.

In Section II, I present a case study of the place within which I live and
work; the Mersey Basin bioregion.   I describe the natural features of this
place, including it's geology, flora and fauna and water systems. I then
outline the anthropogenically derived features such as urbanism, population
distribution and the institutions whose job it is to manage the natural 
elements of the region. I finish by outlining the 11 year old Mersey Basin
project, detailing some of it's achievements and future objectives. 

Regards,

Rob
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                         Rob Squires of CTCSystems 
                     
                    Gill Ellison - Age Concern St.Helens
                    ++++ A POSITIVE ATTITUDE TO LIFE +++
                 
                    http://www.u-net.com/~yesyou/home.htm
                       E:Mail:robgil@yesyou.u-net.com 
                          Phone/Fax (01744) 612778 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Greetings !!

I have just uploaded my rescently completed dissertation, From Sacred to
Stinking - The Appropriation of Bioregionalism to Holistic Restoration; Case
Study : The Mersey Basin.

It is approx 10,000 words and may be found on the Web at:

http://www.u-net.com/~yesyou/bio/visitor.htm

Please let me know what you think of it. For those whome this does not
concern, I apologise for cross posting.

Here is the abstract:

Since the birth of the Industrial Revolution bioregions around the Planet
have become increasingly degraded, with locally diverse  ecosystems and
cultural systems being replaced by homogenous systems founded within the
parallel paradigms of western science, technology and capitalism.
Environmentalism has failed to break the cultural 'monopoly' of the dominant
knowledge system, yet as reductionist science is integrated with more
holistic ways of viewing the environment, peoples around the globe are 
collectively beginning to realise that it may be possible to reinstate
alternative societies to the 'destructoculture' which is causing so much damage.

In order for this to happen, we must acquire a heightened awareness of the
place within which we live , it's history, the species we share with and the
natural processes that effect the region. With urbanisation ever expanding,
this wisdom applies particularly to city dwellers. There are many
indications that societies around the planet are heading towards 
a more decentralised form. At the forefront of evolutionary social and
ecological change is the New Urbanism which is synthesising the concept of
the village with urban environments in order to instigate a 'green city'
programme. Within this new world order much of the decision making power of
the centralised nation state is transferred into a culture of empowered
individuals and communities. Since the 1980's, bioregionalism has 
recognised  and attempted to integrate these factors into the mainstream.

In Section II, I present a case study of the place within which I live and
work; the Mersey Basin bioregion.   I describe the natural features of this
place, including it's geology, flora and fauna and water systems. I then
outline the anthropogenically derived features such as urbanism, population
distribution and the institutions whose job it is to manage the natural 
elements of the region. I finish by outlining the 11 year old Mersey Basin
project, detailing some of it's achievements and future objectives. 

Regards,

Rob
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>On Friday April 26, 1996 Rob Squires punctuates with an exclamation:
>
>>Looking for the perfect millenium project which would unite the peoples of
>>the planet, and reinstate an earth caring culture, I would say that the
>>reafforestation of the Sahara would be a project hard to top !

On the very same day Mik L. responded with:

>Ok Rob, where would be a good place to start?

Hi Mik. Just thought I'd write you this to let you know I'm not ignoring
your question. The problem is I don't know how to answer it. When you first
posed the questioned I was daunted by the pollitical and land use/ownership
issues that surround such a proposition. Compared with these, the actual
physical act of reforestation seemed unproblematic. I've been trying to come
up with a reasonable answer, but don't seem to have all the pieces. Does
anyone ?

Since then you personally E:mailed me with:

>Hi Rob

>We're starting to do a little research on desert Forests. Richard has
>suggested tracking down folks from India who've been planting in the sand
>for about 30 years. Also, my girlfriend, who is Japanese, and Carmela in
>Australia are talking about visiting Masanobu Fukuoka.

>We'd like to make e-mail contacts with friends of Richard St. Barbe Baker,
>and some tree folks in India and in the Sahara region and if you have any
>ideas or know of anyone I'd appreciate hearing ...

I'm impressed with the zest with which you've all embarked upon the conquest
of the Sahara. Regarding planting in the sand it occured to me that it may
be worth studying natural coastline succesions. Around here, the general
pattern is from sand to heathland (which would probably be forested without
the anthropogenic impact). Between these zones are an array of grasses and
sedges. Some species have a stabilising effect on the dunes, whilst others
act as a focus, whereby embryonic dunes form and grow around an ever
expanding root system. Only about 10% of the Sahara is covered by sand however.

Many Australian Permaculturists are well informed in dry land srategies -
Mollison's Design Manuals full of ideas. Personally I'm not very clued up on
this area - it never stops raining on Merseyside !

A university friend of mine, Grahams' currently doing his 'year out' in
Uttar Predesh working on a community Agro Forestry project. He could be a
usfull information source, but he's coming home in a couple of months. Tell
me what you were you hoping to learn from India, and I'll write to him
(Snailmail - not suprisingly the village hasn't got internet !).

By the way, two days ago I saw The Diversity of Life (Wilson) referenced in
the Ecologist, and thought I might buy it. Yesterday it was mentioned on
this list. Today I walked into our Uni bookshop for - oh, maybe the third
time in 3 years, and there it was jumping off the shelf at me. The
temptation was too much, I bought it. It's that old magic working again ...
I've only reached page 7 but I've got a feeling it's a good buy. Good by, Rob. 






     







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I read in the permaculture book about building a chicken coop in the green
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thanks


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or check out my homepage:            http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html    .


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                   The Permaculture FAQ
                       Version 1.3
                         May 1996

The Permaculture FAQ (1.3) is divided into 7 parts: 

1.  Introduction to permaculture
2.  Permaculture defined 
3.  Characteristics of permaculture
4.  The practical application of permaculuture
5.  Permaculture resources: 
       United States
       Australia
       Around the World
6.  Books on permaculture
7.  Electronic sources
    
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                  INTRODUCTION TO PERMACULTURE 
==============================================================

The word "permaculture" was coined in 1978 by Bill Mollison, an
Australian ecologist, and his student, David Holmgren.  It is a
contraction of "permanent agriculture" or "permanent culture." 

Permaculture is about designing ecological human habitats and
food production systems.  It is an approach to land use which
integrates human dwellings, microclimate, annual and perennial
plants, animals, soils, and water management into stable,
productive communities.  

A central theme in permaculture is the design of ecological
landscapes that produce food.  Emphasis is placed on multi-use
plants and the integration of animals to recycle nutrients and
graze weeds.  However, permaculture entails much more than just
food production.  Permaculture design concepts are being applied
in urban as well as rural settings, and are applicable to single
households or whole farms and villages.  

"Integrated farming" and "ecological engineering" are terms
sometimes used to describe permaculture.  Though helpful, these
terms do not capture the holistic nature of permaculture and thus
the following definitions are included to provide insight. 

==============================================================
                   PERMACULTURE DEFINED 
==============================================================

1.   From the Permaculture Drylands Institute and published in
     THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST (Autumn 1989):

     Permaculture:  the use of ecology as the basis for
     designing integrated systems of food production,
     housing, appropriate technology, and community
     development.  Permaculture is built upon an ethic of
     caring for the earth and interacting with the
     environment in mutually beneficial ways...

2.   From Lee Barnes (editor of KATUAH JOURNAL and PERMACULTURE 
     CONNECTIONS), Waynesville, North Carolina:     

     Permaculture (PERMAnent agriCULTURE or PERMAnent CULTURE) is
     a sustainable design system stressing the harmonious
     interrelationship of humans, plants, animals and the Earth. 
     To paraphrase the founder of permaculture, designer
     Bill Mollison:  

          "Permaculture principles focus on thoughtful designs
          for small-scale intensive systems which are labor
          efficient and which use biological resources instead of
          fossil fuels. Designs stress ecological connections and
          closed energy and material loops.  The core of
          permaculture is design and the working relationships
          and connections between all things. Each component in a
          system performs multiple functions, and each function
          is supported by many elements.  Key to efficient design
          is observation and replication of natural ecosystems,
          where designers maximize diversity with polycultures,
          stress efficient energy planning for houses and
          settlement, using and accelerating natural plant
          succession, and increasing the highly productive
          "edge-zones" within the system."

     Permaculture designs have been successfully and widely
     implemented in third-world countries, but there is current
     need to expand these principles in temperate climates, and
     especially urban areas to create more enjoyable and
     sustainable human habitats.  

3.   From Michael Pilarksi, founder of Friends of the Trees, and
     published in INTERNATIONAL GREEN FRONT REPORT (1988):  

     Permaculture is:  the design of land use systems that are
     sustainable and environmentally sound; the design of
     culturally appropriate systems which lead to social
     stability; a design system characterized by an integrated
     application of ecological principles in land use; an
     international movement for land use planning and design; an
     ethical system stressing positivism and cooperation.  

     In the broadest sense, permaculture refers to land use
     systems which promote stability in society, utilize
     resources in a sustainable way and preserve wildlife
     habitat and the genetic diversity of wild and domestic
     plants and animals.  It is a synthesis of ecology and
     geography, of observation and design.  Permaculture
     involves ethics of earth care because the sustainable use of
     land cannot be separated from life-styles and philosophical
     issues. 

4.   From a Bay Area Permaculture Group brochure, published in
     WEST COAST PERMACULTURE NEWS & GOSSIP AND SUSTAINABLE LIVING 
     NEWSLETTER (Fall 1995):

     Permaculture is a practical concept which can be applied in
     the city, on the farm, and in the wilderness.  Its
     principles empower people to establish highly productive
     environments providing for food, energy, shelter, and other
     material and non-material needs, including economic. 
     Carefully observing natural patterns characteristic of a
     particular site, the permaculture  designer gradually
     discerns optimal methods for integrating water catchment,
     human shelter, and energy systems with tree crops, edible
     and useful perennial plants, domestic and wild animals and
     aquaculture.

     Permaculture adopts techniques and principles from ecology,
     appropriate technology, sustainable agriculture, and the
     wisdom of indigenous peoples.  The ethical basis of
     permaculture rests upon care of the earth--maintaining a
     system in which all life can thrive.  This includes human
     access to resources and provisions, but not the accumulation
     of wealth, power, or land beyond their needs.

=============================================================
               CHARACTERISTICS OF PERMACULTURE (*) 
=============================================================

*    Permaculture is one of the most holistic, integrated systems
     analysis and design methodologies found in the world.

*    Permaculture can be applied to create productive ecosystems
     from the human-use standpoint or to help degraded
     ecosystems recover health and wildness.  Permaculture can be 
     applied in any ecosystem no matter how degraded. 

*    Permaculture values and validates traditional knowledge and
     experience.  Permaculture incorporates sustainable
     agriculture practices and land management techniques and
     strategies from around the world.  Permaculture is a bridge
     between traditional cultures and emergent earth-tuned
     cultures.

*    Permaculture promotes organic agriculture which does not use
     pesticides to pollute the environment.

*    Permaculture aims to maximize symbiotic and synergistic
     relationships between site components.

*    Permaculture is urban planning as well as rural land design.

*    Permaculture design is site specific, client specific, and
     culture specific.

(*)  Source:   Pilarski, Michael (ed.)  1994.  Restoration Forestry.  
               Kivaki Press, Durango, CO.  p. 450.               
 
==============================================================    
           THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION of PERMACULTURE  
==============================================================

Permaculture is not limited to just plant and animal agriculture,
but also includes community planning and development, use of
appropriate technologies (coupled with an adjustment of life-
style), and adoption of concepts and philosophies that are both
earth-based and people-centered, such as bio-regionalism. 

Many of the appropriate technologies advocated by permaculturists
are well-known.  Among these are solar and wind power, composting
toilets, solar greenhouses, energy efficient housing, and solar
food cooking and drying.  

Due to the inherent sustainability of perennial cropping systems,
permaculture places a heavy emphasis on tree crops.  Systems that
integrate annual and perennial crops such as alleycropping and
agroforestry   take advantage of "the edge effect", increase
biological diversity, and offer other characteristics missing in
monoculture systems.  Thus, multicropping systems that
blend woody perennials and annuals hold promise as viable
techniques for large-scale farming.  Ecological methods of
production for any specific crop or farming system are central to
permaculture as well as sustainable agriculture in general.

Since permaculture is not a production system, per se, but rather
a land use planning philosophy, it is not limited to a specific
method of production.  Furthermore, as permaculture principles
may be adapted to farms or villages worldwide, it is site
specific and therefore amenable to locally adapted techniques of
production.  

As an example, standard organic farming and gardening techniques
utilizing cover crops, green manures, crop rotation, and mulches
are emphasized in permacultural systems.  Yet, the use of
the Keyline chisel plow, rotational grazing, the Aerway implement
in no-till farming, and a whole number of other techniques are
adaptable to farms working within a permacultural framework. 
The decision as to which "system" is employed is site-specific
and management dependent.

Farming systems and techniques commonly associated with
permaculture include rotational grazing, agroforestry, swales,
contour plantings, the Keyline method (soil and water
management), hedgerows and windbreaks, and integrated farming
systems such as aquaculture, intercropping, and polyculture.  

Gardening and recycling methods common to permaculture include
edible landscaping, keyhole gardening, companion planting,
trellising, sheet mulching, chicken tractors, solar greenhouses,
spiral herb gardens, swales, and vermicomposting.   

Water collection, management, and re-use systems like Keyline,
greywater, rain catchment, constructed wetlands, aquaponics (the
integration of hydroponics with recirculating aquaculture),
and solar aquatic ponds (also known as Living Machines) play an
important role in permaculture designs.  

==============================================================
                  PERMACULTURE RESOURCES 
==============================================================

The two basic sources of information on permaculture are
permaculture design courses and permaculture literature. 

The Permaculture Design Course is the primary vehicle for
transfer of permaculture expertise.  The standard course is
72-hours in length and lasts two weeks.  Graduates are
issued a permaculture design certificate and are entitled to use
"Permaculture" in the pursuit of livelihood and for educational
purposes. 

The permaculture literature is a rich source of information on a 
wide range of topics dealing with land use, plant and animal
agriculture, water management, appropriate technology,
energy-efficient and toxic-free housing, and community design.   

         *******************************************
         Permaculture Resources in the United States
         ********************************************

THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST 
Box 1209
Black Mountain, NC  28711
(704) 683-4946
Editor: Peter Bane
Cost:  $16, quarterly

     THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST is the leading periodical for
     North American permaculture.  It publishes articles
     on permaculture, edible landscaping, bioregionalism,
     aquaculture, etc, and provides a current listing of
     upcoming permaculture design courses.  It serves as an
     important networking tool in the U.S., Canada, and
     Central America.  Back issues are available for sale.   

THE INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE SOLUTIONS JOURNAL (TIPS) 
Yankee Permaculture, Elfin Permaculture, and Forest Ecosystem
Rescue Network (FERN)
P.O. Box 672
Dahlonega, GA 30533-0672
Editor:  Dan Hemenway
Cost: $27.50 for four issues

     THE INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE SOLUTIONS JOURNAL (TIPS) is
     published on an irregular basis, but is a rich source of
     information.  Prior to TIPS, Yankee Permaculture put out a
     fantastic yearbook called THE INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE
     SPECIES YEARBOOK (TIPSY).  The TIPSY series is a goldmine
     of permaculture information; much of the information is
     still quite useful.  FERN publishes a permaculture
     newsletter called ROBIN that deals with forest issues. 
     Yankee Permaculture also publishes THE RESOURCES OF 
     INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE - TRIP.  Volume 5 of TRIP,
     published in 1993, is a 68-page issue that contains 1,540
     listings of groups working in permaculture, sustainable
     food systems, and tree-based agriculture.

RESTORATION FORESTRY
Friends of the Trees
P. O. Box 4469
Bellingham, WA   98227
(206) 738-4972
Editor:  Michael Pilarski

     RESTORATION FORESTRY: AN INTERNATIONAL GUIDE TO SUSTAINABLE
     FORESTRY PRACTICES (1994) is a 525-page guide to resources 
     in restoration forestry.  It contains over 50 review articles, 
     780 organizations, 230 journals/periodicals, 800 books, 100 
     restoration forestry projects underway, and 100 directories on 
     topics relating to restoration forestry, forest ecology, tree 
     seedlings, bioregionalism, and permaculture.  It is a massive 
     addition to tree-based agricultural literature.  Cost is $27, 
     plus $4 handling.
      
     Other publications from Friends of the Trees include the
     INTERNATIONAL GREEN FRONT REPORT (1988, $7.00);
     KIWIFRUIT ENTHUSIASTS JOURNAL (Vol. 6, $17.20); and THIRD 
     WORLD RESOURCE GUIDE (1993, $5.00) and the WEST COAST 
     PERMACULTURE NEWS & GOSSIP NEWSLETTER. 

     Travelers Earth Repair Network (TERN) is a database
     maintained by Friends of the Trees containing over 2,500
     permaculture contacts in 100-plus countries.  The aim is to 
     link travelers with individuals and organizations
     involved in sustainable agriculture, forestry, permaculture,
     and ecological restoration.  There is a $50 fee to access
     the TERN database.  Hosts are listed free of charge. 

PERMACULTURE DRYLANDS JOURNAL 
Permaculture Drylands Institute
P.O. Box 156
Santa Fe, NM  87504-0156
(505) 983-0663
Cost: $25, 3 issues per year 

     PERMACULTURE DRYLANDS JOURNAL (formerly SUSTAINABLE LIVING
     IN DRYLANDS) is published in April, August, and
     December by the Permaculture Drylands Education and Research
     Institute.  It focuses on permaculture concepts and designs
     for arid lands, with a heavy focus on New Mexico and
     Arizona.  PDJ has published articles on straw bale
     buildings, solar box cookers, dryland farming, and much
     more; back issues are available.  PDI offers a regular
     series of Permaculture Design Courses.   

EARTHWORD JOURNAL 
Eos Institute                 
580 Broadway, Suite 200
Laguna Beach, CA  92651
(714) 497-1896
Cost: $20, 4 issues 

     EARTHWORD JOURNAL is a glossy permaculture magazine published 
     collaboratively by Eos Institute and the Permaculture Institute 
     of Southern California.  It explores the ecological interface 
     between urban and rural communities and is geared to the 
     professional designer, architect, and land-use planner.  Issue 
     No. 6 was published in January 1996.

TEMPERATE BAMBOO QUARTERLY 
Earth Advocates Research Facility
30 Myers Road
Summertown, TN  38483 
(615) 964-4151
Cost:  $24, quarterly 

     TEMPERATE BAMBOO QUARTERLY is a quarterly publication from
     Earth Advocates, a permaculture team run by Sue and Adam
     Turtle.  It focuses on the bamboo plant which has unique, 
     multi-purpose uses.  They also operate a nursery with dozens
     of bamboo species.      

Permaculture Resources
P.O. Box 65
56 Farmersville Rd
Califon, N.J.  07830
(800) 832-6285

     Educational publisher and distributor of permaculture
     resources and publications.

agAccess 
P.O. Box 2008
Davis, CA  95616
(916) 756-7177
 
     agAccess, primarily a mailorder bookstore but also a 
     publishing company and for-profit information service, 
     carries one of the largest selections of agricultural 
     literature in North America.  They specialize in
     sustainable agriculture and related resources.

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             Permaculture Resources in Australia
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PERMACULTURE INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL 
Permaculture International Ltd.
P.O. Box PG6039 
South Lismore, NSW  2480
Australia
Phone:  (066) 220 020
International:  (066) 220 579
Cost: U.S. $24, quarterly 
**Available in the U.S. through THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST** 

     PIJ serves as the leading periodical for permaculture
     worldwide.  It contains articles, book reviews, and news of
     permacultural events around the world.  It serves as an
     important networking tool.  Back issues to the early 1980s
     are available for sale.

THE PERMACULTURE EDGE 
Permaculture Nambour, Inc. 
P.O. Box 148 
Inglewood 6050 
Western Australia
Cost: U.S. $20, quarterly 
**Available in the U.S. through THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST**
     
     THE PERMACULTURE EDGE aims to report activities that are seen 
     to be at the cutting edge of permaculture developments around 
     the world.  The "permaculture edge" refers to the "edge effect" 
     found at the boundaries of two ecological systems where there is 
     more synergism, biological activity, and variations in the 
     microenvironment and which can be used to increase yields in 
     designed systems.  It also points to permaculture ideas as being 
     "at the edge" of a change in the push towards a sustainable
     future. 

International Permaculture Institute
P.O. Box 1
Tyalgum, NSW  2484
Australia
Phone:  (066) 793 442

     The International Permaculture Institute in Tyalgum,
     Australia, serves as the international coordinating
     organization for permaculture activities such as
     permaculture design accreditation.

           ***************************************
           Permaculture Resources Around the World
           ***************************************

PERMACULTURE MAGAZINE UK: ECOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS FOR EVERYDAY LIFE
Permanent Publications
Hyden House Limited
Little Hyden Lane
Clandfield, Hampshire  PO8 ORU
England
Cost:  U.S. $24, quarterly
**Available in the U.S. through THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST**

      A quarterly journal published in cooperation with the
     Permaculture Association of Great Britain.  It contains
     articles, book reviews, and solutions from Britain and
     Europe.  A good source for temperate agroforestry species
     and permaculture design projects.   

GROUND COVER 
Permaculture Association of Zimbabwe
Box CY 301
Causeway, Harare 
Zimbabwe
Telephone/Fax:  (+4) 726911
Cost:  U.S. $30, per year

PERMACULTURE INDIA NEWSLETTER and ECOLOGICAL VISIONS 
Earthcare Books c/o Classic Books
10 Middleton St.
Calcutta  700 071 
India

==============================================================
                   Books on Permaculture
==============================================================

INTRODUCTION TO PERMACULTURE by Bill Mollison and Reny Mia Slay. 
1991.  Tagari Publishers, Tyalgum, Australia.  198 p. 

PERMACULTURE ONE: A PERENNIAL AGRICULTURE FOR HUMAN SETTLEMENTS,
3rd ed (Reprint of 1978 ed) by Bill Mollison and David Holmgren. 
1987.  Tagari Publishers, Tyalgum, New South Wales, Australia. 
127 p. 

PERMACULTURE TWO: A PRACTICAL DESIGN FOR TOWN AND COUNTRY IN
PERMANENT AGRICULTURE by Bill Mollison.  1979.  Tagari Press,
Stanley, Australia.  150 p. 

PERMACULTURE: A DESIGNER'S MANUAL by Bill Mollison.  1988. 
Tagari Publications, Tyalgum, Australia.  576 p.   

THE BEST OF PERMACULTURE by Max O. Lindegger and Robert Tap. 
1986.  Nascimanere Publishers, Nambour, Australia.  136 p. 

THE PERMACULTURE WAY: PRACTICAL WAYS TO CREATE A SELF-SUSTAINING
WORLD by Graham Bell.  1992.  Thorsons, London.  239 p. 

THE PERMACULTURE GARDEN by Graham Bell.  1994.  Thorsons, London. 
170 p.

URBAN PERMACULTURE by David Watkins.  1993.  Permanent
Publications, U.K.  152 p. 

PERMACULTURE IN A NUTSHELL by Patrick Whitefield.  1993. 
Permanent Publications, U.K.  75 p. 

EARTH USER'S GUIDE TO PERMACULTURE by Rosemary Morrow and Rob
Allsop.  1994.  Kangaroo Press, Kenthurst, NSW Australia.  152 p.

GETTING STARTED IN PERMACULTURE by Ross and Jennifer Mars.  1995. 
Candlelight Trust, Hovea, Western Australia.  60 p. 

==============================================================
      A FEW GOOD BOOKS for the PERMACULTURIST'S BOOKSHELF 
==============================================================

CORNUCOPIA: A SOURCE BOOK OF EDIBLE PLANTS by Stephen Facciola.
1990.  Kampong Publications, Vista, CA.  678 p. 

DESIGNING & MAINTAINING YOUR EDIBLE LANDSCAPE NATURALLY by Robert
Kourick.  1986.  Metamorphic Press, Santa Rosa, CA.  370 p. 

TREE CROPS: A PERMANENT AGRICULTURE by J. Russell Smith.  1987. 
Island Press, Washington, D.C.  408 p.  

THE PERMACULTURE BOOK OF FERMENT & HUMAN NUTRITION by Bill
Mollison.  1993.  Tagari Publications, Tyalgum, Australia.  
288 p.  

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        ELECTRONIC SOURCES OF PERMACULTURE INFORMATION 
===============================================================

1.   Permaculture-Mg Internet Discussion List in the United
     States
     
     permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu

     To subscribe, send email to "almanac@amani.ces.ncsu.edu" 
     with SUBSCRIBE PERMACULTURE-MG YOUR NAME in the body of
     email

2.   Permaculture Discussion List in Western Australia
     
     perma@eepo.com.au

     To subscribe, send email to "listserv@eepo.com.au"
     with SUBSCRIBE PERMA YOUR NAME in the body of email

3.   Organic Gardening & Permaculture Information 
     
     http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/The_Sustainable_Farmstead.html
     http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture.html
     Email: london@sunsite.unc.edu

4.   Permaculture Guide at Communications for a Sustainable
     Future

     http://csf.colorado.edu:8080/

5.   Permaculture International Journal (Australia)

     http://nornet.nor.com.au/environment/perma/
     Email:  pcjournal@peg.apc.org

6.   International Permaculture Institute (Australia)

     Email:  perminst@peg.apc.org

7.   Permaculture Global Assistance Network (Australia)

     http://www.peg.apc.org/~pgan

8.   Permaculture in Western Australia

     http://www.eepo.com.au/perma/

9.   Permaculture in South Australia - "What's Happening in
     Permaculture"

     http://dove.mtx.net.au/%7Esteveo/wotsnu.html

10.  Correspondence Course on Permaculture (Australia)

     http://www.qldnet.com.au/acs

11.  Permaculture Visions International's Correspondence Course
     (Australia)

     Email:  askpv@ozemail.com.au 

12.  British Permaculture Magazine/Permanent Publications Web
     Site

     http://www.uea.ac.uk/~e415/home.html

13.  PermaWeb in Great Britain

     http://www.sysmag.com/permaweb

14.  Permaculture Association (Britain)

     http://www.sysmag.com/permaweb/groups/pcbritain

15.  Bay Area Permaculture Group 

     http://www.nbn.com/people/bapg/

16.  Permaculture Institute of Northern California
     
     http://www.nbn.com/people/bapg/pinc.html

17.  Friends of the Trees 
     
     http://www.pacificrim.net/~trees/

18.  Cross Timbers Permaculture Institute in Texas
     
     http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/ctpi/cross_t.htm
     Email:  7539.1353@compuserve.com

19.  Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute

     Email:  103070.2354@compuserve.com

20.  Permaculture on "Mind*Body*Spirit" (South Africa)

     http://www.pix.za/mbs/body/perma.htm

21.  Permaculture on Carmela's Home Page 

     http://www.ozoline.com.au/permaculture/index.html

22.  Plants for a Future On-Line

     http://www.liv.ac.uk/~rmorris/pfaf/index.html

23.  Institute for Bioregional Studies

     http://www.cycor.ca/IBS/

24.  EcoVillage Information Service

     http://www.gaia.org/

25.  Crystal Waters Permaculture Village

     http://www.gaia.org/crystalwaters/

26.  The Farm EcoVillage Training Center

     http://www.gaia.org/farm/

27.  Intentional Communities on the Web
     http://www.well.com/user/cmty/iclist.html

28.  Findhorn 

     http://www.gaia.org/findhorn/

29.  Arcosanti  

     http://www.arcosanti.org

30.  Auroville 

     http://www.webcom.com/~miraura/aa/av/av.html
    
31.  Permaculture FAQ on the Web  

     Hyper-Text
          http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/faq.html 

     Ascii-Text 
          http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture/faq.v1.1 

==============================================================
                         - * - 
==============================================================

The Permaculture FAQ was compiled by Steve Diver(*) for the 
permaculture-mg mailing list  
 
Send updates, comments, and corrections to: 
         steved@ncatfyv.uark.edu
                   or 
         permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu

(*) Permaculture Design Course graduate, Michaela
    Farm/Sisters of St. Francis, Oldenburg, Indiana

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                   The Permaculture FAQ
                       Version 1.3
                         May 1996

The Permaculture FAQ (1.3) is divided into 7 parts: 

1.  Introduction to permaculture
2.  Permaculture defined 
3.  Characteristics of permaculture
4.  The practical application of permaculuture
5.  Permaculture resources: 
       United States
       Australia
       Around the World
6.  Books on permaculture
7.  Electronic sources
    
==============================================================
                  INTRODUCTION TO PERMACULTURE 
==============================================================

The word "permaculture" was coined in 1978 by Bill Mollison, an
Australian ecologist, and his student, David Holmgren.  It is a
contraction of "permanent agriculture" or "permanent culture." 

Permaculture is about designing ecological human habitats and
food production systems.  It is an approach to land use which
integrates human dwellings, microclimate, annual and perennial
plants, animals, soils, and water management into stable,
productive communities.  

A central theme in permaculture is the design of ecological
landscapes that produce food.  Emphasis is placed on multi-use
plants and the integration of animals to recycle nutrients and
graze weeds.  However, permaculture entails much more than just
food production.  Permaculture design concepts are being applied
in urban as well as rural settings, and are applicable to single
households or whole farms and villages.  

"Integrated farming" and "ecological engineering" are terms
sometimes used to describe permaculture.  Though helpful, these
terms do not capture the holistic nature of permaculture and thus
the following definitions are included to provide insight. 

==============================================================
                   PERMACULTURE DEFINED 
==============================================================

1.   From the Permaculture Drylands Institute and published in
     THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST (Autumn 1989):

     Permaculture:  the use of ecology as the basis for
     designing integrated systems of food production,
     housing, appropriate technology, and community
     development.  Permaculture is built upon an ethic of
     caring for the earth and interacting with the
     environment in mutually beneficial ways...

2.   From Lee Barnes (editor of KATUAH JOURNAL and PERMACULTURE 
     CONNECTIONS), Waynesville, North Carolina:     

     Permaculture (PERMAnent agriCULTURE or PERMAnent CULTURE) is
     a sustainable design system stressing the harmonious
     interrelationship of humans, plants, animals and the Earth. 
     To paraphrase the founder of permaculture, designer
     Bill Mollison:  

          "Permaculture principles focus on thoughtful designs
          for small-scale intensive systems which are labor
          efficient and which use biological resources instead of
          fossil fuels. Designs stress ecological connections and
          closed energy and material loops.  The core of
          permaculture is design and the working relationships
          and connections between all things. Each component in a
          system performs multiple functions, and each function
          is supported by many elements.  Key to efficient design
          is observation and replication of natural ecosystems,
          where designers maximize diversity with polycultures,
          stress efficient energy planning for houses and
          settlement, using and accelerating natural plant
          succession, and increasing the highly productive
          "edge-zones" within the system."

     Permaculture designs have been successfully and widely
     implemented in third-world countries, but there is current
     need to expand these principles in temperate climates, and
     especially urban areas to create more enjoyable and
     sustainable human habitats.  

3.   From Michael Pilarksi, founder of Friends of the Trees, and
     published in INTERNATIONAL GREEN FRONT REPORT (1988):  

     Permaculture is:  the design of land use systems that are
     sustainable and environmentally sound; the design of
     culturally appropriate systems which lead to social
     stability; a design system characterized by an integrated
     application of ecological principles in land use; an
     international movement for land use planning and design; an
     ethical system stressing positivism and cooperation.  

     In the broadest sense, permaculture refers to land use
     systems which promote stability in society, utilize
     resources in a sustainable way and preserve wildlife
     habitat and the genetic diversity of wild and domestic
     plants and animals.  It is a synthesis of ecology and
     geography, of observation and design.  Permaculture
     involves ethics of earth care because the sustainable use of
     land cannot be separated from life-styles and philosophical
     issues. 

4.   From a Bay Area Permaculture Group brochure, published in
     WEST COAST PERMACULTURE NEWS & GOSSIP AND SUSTAINABLE LIVING 
     NEWSLETTER (Fall 1995):

     Permaculture is a practical concept which can be applied in
     the city, on the farm, and in the wilderness.  Its
     principles empower people to establish highly productive
     environments providing for food, energy, shelter, and other
     material and non-material needs, including economic. 
     Carefully observing natural patterns characteristic of a
     particular site, the permaculture  designer gradually
     discerns optimal methods for integrating water catchment,
     human shelter, and energy systems with tree crops, edible
     and useful perennial plants, domestic and wild animals and
     aquaculture.

     Permaculture adopts techniques and principles from ecology,
     appropriate technology, sustainable agriculture, and the
     wisdom of indigenous peoples.  The ethical basis of
     permaculture rests upon care of the earth--maintaining a
     system in which all life can thrive.  This includes human
     access to resources and provisions, but not the accumulation
     of wealth, power, or land beyond their needs.

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               CHARACTERISTICS OF PERMACULTURE (*) 
=============================================================

*    Permaculture is one of the most holistic, integrated systems
     analysis and design methodologies found in the world.

*    Permaculture can be applied to create productive ecosystems
     from the human-use standpoint or to help degraded
     ecosystems recover health and wildness.  Permaculture can be 
     applied in any ecosystem no matter how degraded. 

*    Permaculture values and validates traditional knowledge and
     experience.  Permaculture incorporates sustainable
     agriculture practices and land management techniques and
     strategies from around the world.  Permaculture is a bridge
     between traditional cultures and emergent earth-tuned
     cultures.

*    Permaculture promotes organic agriculture which does not use
     pesticides to pollute the environment.

*    Permaculture aims to maximize symbiotic and synergistic
     relationships between site components.

*    Permaculture is urban planning as well as rural land design.

*    Permaculture design is site specific, client specific, and
     culture specific.

(*)  Source:   Pilarski, Michael (ed.)  1994.  Restoration Forestry.  
               Kivaki Press, Durango, CO.  p. 450.               
 
==============================================================    
           THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION of PERMACULTURE  
==============================================================

Permaculture is not limited to just plant and animal agriculture,
but also includes community planning and development, use of
appropriate technologies (coupled with an adjustment of life-
style), and adoption of concepts and philosophies that are both
earth-based and people-centered, such as bio-regionalism. 

Many of the appropriate technologies advocated by permaculturists
are well-known.  Among these are solar and wind power, composting
toilets, solar greenhouses, energy efficient housing, and solar
food cooking and drying.  

Due to the inherent sustainability of perennial cropping systems,
permaculture places a heavy emphasis on tree crops.  Systems that
integrate annual and perennial crops such as alleycropping and
agroforestry   take advantage of "the edge effect", increase
biological diversity, and offer other characteristics missing in
monoculture systems.  Thus, multicropping systems that
blend woody perennials and annuals hold promise as viable
techniques for large-scale farming.  Ecological methods of
production for any specific crop or farming system are central to
permaculture as well as sustainable agriculture in general.

Since permaculture is not a production system, per se, but rather
a land use planning philosophy, it is not limited to a specific
method of production.  Furthermore, as permaculture principles
may be adapted to farms or villages worldwide, it is site
specific and therefore amenable to locally adapted techniques of
production.  

As an example, standard organic farming and gardening techniques
utilizing cover crops, green manures, crop rotation, and mulches
are emphasized in permacultural systems.  Yet, the use of
the Keyline chisel plow, rotational grazing, the Aerway implement
in no-till farming, and a whole number of other techniques are
adaptable to farms working within a permacultural framework. 
The decision as to which "system" is employed is site-specific
and management dependent.

Farming systems and techniques commonly associated with
permaculture include rotational grazing, agroforestry, swales,
contour plantings, the Keyline method (soil and water
management), hedgerows and windbreaks, and integrated farming
systems such as aquaculture, intercropping, and polyculture.  

Gardening and recycling methods common to permaculture include
edible landscaping, keyhole gardening, companion planting,
trellising, sheet mulching, chicken tractors, solar greenhouses,
spiral herb gardens, swales, and vermicomposting.   

Water collection, management, and re-use systems like Keyline,
greywater, rain catchment, constructed wetlands, aquaponics (the
integration of hydroponics with recirculating aquaculture),
and solar aquatic ponds (also known as Living Machines) play an
important role in permaculture designs.  

==============================================================
                  PERMACULTURE RESOURCES 
==============================================================

The two basic sources of information on permaculture are
permaculture design courses and permaculture literature. 

The Permaculture Design Course is the primary vehicle for
transfer of permaculture expertise.  The standard course is
72-hours in length and lasts two weeks.  Graduates are
issued a permaculture design certificate and are entitled to use
"Permaculture" in the pursuit of livelihood and for educational
purposes. 

The permaculture literature is a rich source of information on a 
wide range of topics dealing with land use, plant and animal
agriculture, water management, appropriate technology,
energy-efficient and toxic-free housing, and community design.   

         *******************************************
         Permaculture Resources in the United States
         ********************************************

THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST 
Box 1209
Black Mountain, NC  28711
(704) 683-4946
Editor: Peter Bane
Cost:  $16, quarterly

     THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST is the leading periodical for
     North American permaculture.  It publishes articles
     on permaculture, edible landscaping, bioregionalism,
     aquaculture, etc, and provides a current listing of
     upcoming permaculture design courses.  It serves as an
     important networking tool in the U.S., Canada, and
     Central America.  Back issues are available for sale.   

THE INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE SOLUTIONS JOURNAL (TIPS) 
Yankee Permaculture, Elfin Permaculture, and Forest Ecosystem
Rescue Network (FERN)
P.O. Box 672
Dahlonega, GA 30533-0672
Editor:  Dan Hemenway
Cost: $27.50 for four issues

     THE INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE SOLUTIONS JOURNAL (TIPS) is
     published on an irregular basis, but is a rich source of
     information.  Prior to TIPS, Yankee Permaculture put out a
     fantastic yearbook called THE INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE
     SPECIES YEARBOOK (TIPSY).  The TIPSY series is a goldmine
     of permaculture information; much of the information is
     still quite useful.  FERN publishes a permaculture
     newsletter called ROBIN that deals with forest issues. 
     Yankee Permaculture also publishes THE RESOURCES OF 
     INTERNATIONAL PERMACULTURE - TRIP.  Volume 5 of TRIP,
     published in 1993, is a 68-page issue that contains 1,540
     listings of groups working in permaculture, sustainable
     food systems, and tree-based agriculture.

RESTORATION FORESTRY
Friends of the Trees
P. O. Box 4469
Bellingham, WA   98227
(206) 738-4972
Editor:  Michael Pilarski

     RESTORATION FORESTRY: AN INTERNATIONAL GUIDE TO SUSTAINABLE
     FORESTRY PRACTICES (1994) is a 525-page guide to resources 
     in restoration forestry.  It contains over 50 review articles, 
     780 organizations, 230 journals/periodicals, 800 books, 100 
     restoration forestry projects underway, and 100 directories on 
     topics relating to restoration forestry, forest ecology, tree 
     seedlings, bioregionalism, and permaculture.  It is a massive 
     addition to tree-based agricultural literature.  Cost is $27, 
     plus $4 handling.
      
     Other publications from Friends of the Trees include the
     INTERNATIONAL GREEN FRONT REPORT (1988, $7.00);
     KIWIFRUIT ENTHUSIASTS JOURNAL (Vol. 6, $17.20); and THIRD 
     WORLD RESOURCE GUIDE (1993, $5.00) and the WEST COAST 
     PERMACULTURE NEWS & GOSSIP NEWSLETTER. 

     Travelers Earth Repair Network (TERN) is a database
     maintained by Friends of the Trees containing over 2,500
     permaculture contacts in 100-plus countries.  The aim is to 
     link travelers with individuals and organizations
     involved in sustainable agriculture, forestry, permaculture,
     and ecological restoration.  There is a $50 fee to access
     the TERN database.  Hosts are listed free of charge. 

PERMACULTURE DRYLANDS JOURNAL 
Permaculture Drylands Institute
P.O. Box 156
Santa Fe, NM  87504-0156
(505) 983-0663
Cost: $25, 3 issues per year 

     PERMACULTURE DRYLANDS JOURNAL (formerly SUSTAINABLE LIVING
     IN DRYLANDS) is published in April, August, and
     December by the Permaculture Drylands Education and Research
     Institute.  It focuses on permaculture concepts and designs
     for arid lands, with a heavy focus on New Mexico and
     Arizona.  PDJ has published articles on straw bale
     buildings, solar box cookers, dryland farming, and much
     more; back issues are available.  PDI offers a regular
     series of Permaculture Design Courses.   

EARTHWORD JOURNAL 
Eos Institute                 
580 Broadway, Suite 200
Laguna Beach, CA  92651
(714) 497-1896
Cost: $20, 4 issues 

     EARTHWORD JOURNAL is a glossy permaculture magazine published 
     collaboratively by Eos Institute and the Permaculture Institute 
     of Southern California.  It explores the ecological interface 
     between urban and rural communities and is geared to the 
     professional designer, architect, and land-use planner.  Issue 
     No. 6 was published in January 1996.

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30 Myers Road
Summertown, TN  38483 
(615) 964-4151
Cost:  $24, quarterly 

     TEMPERATE BAMBOO QUARTERLY is a quarterly publication from
     Earth Advocates, a permaculture team run by Sue and Adam
     Turtle.  It focuses on the bamboo plant which has unique, 
     multi-purpose uses.  They also operate a nursery with dozens
     of bamboo species.      

Permaculture Resources
P.O. Box 65
56 Farmersville Rd
Califon, N.J.  07830
(800) 832-6285

     Educational publisher and distributor of permaculture
     resources and publications.

agAccess 
P.O. Box 2008
Davis, CA  95616
(916) 756-7177
 
     agAccess, primarily a mailorder bookstore but also a 
     publishing company and for-profit information service, 
     carries one of the largest selections of agricultural 
     literature in North America.  They specialize in
     sustainable agriculture and related resources.

             ***********************************
             Permaculture Resources in Australia
             ***********************************

PERMACULTURE INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL 
Permaculture International Ltd.
P.O. Box PG6039 
South Lismore, NSW  2480
Australia
Phone:  (066) 220 020
International:  (066) 220 579
Cost: U.S. $24, quarterly 
**Available in the U.S. through THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST** 

     PIJ serves as the leading periodical for permaculture
     worldwide.  It contains articles, book reviews, and news of
     permacultural events around the world.  It serves as an
     important networking tool.  Back issues to the early 1980s
     are available for sale.

THE PERMACULTURE EDGE 
Permaculture Nambour, Inc. 
P.O. Box 148 
Inglewood 6050 
Western Australia
Cost: U.S. $20, quarterly 
**Available in the U.S. through THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST**
     
     THE PERMACULTURE EDGE aims to report activities that are seen 
     to be at the cutting edge of permaculture developments around 
     the world.  The "permaculture edge" refers to the "edge effect" 
     found at the boundaries of two ecological systems where there is 
     more synergism, biological activity, and variations in the 
     microenvironment and which can be used to increase yields in 
     designed systems.  It also points to permaculture ideas as being 
     "at the edge" of a change in the push towards a sustainable
     future. 

International Permaculture Institute
P.O. Box 1
Tyalgum, NSW  2484
Australia
Phone:  (066) 793 442

     The International Permaculture Institute in Tyalgum,
     Australia, serves as the international coordinating
     organization for permaculture activities such as
     permaculture design accreditation.

           ***************************************
           Permaculture Resources Around the World
           ***************************************

PERMACULTURE MAGAZINE UK: ECOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS FOR EVERYDAY LIFE
Permanent Publications
Hyden House Limited
Little Hyden Lane
Clandfield, Hampshire  PO8 ORU
England
Cost:  U.S. $24, quarterly
**Available in the U.S. through THE PERMACULTURE ACTIVIST**

      A quarterly journal published in cooperation with the
     Permaculture Association of Great Britain.  It contains
     articles, book reviews, and solutions from Britain and
     Europe.  A good source for temperate agroforestry species
     and permaculture design projects.   

GROUND COVER 
Permaculture Association of Zimbabwe
Box CY 301
Causeway, Harare 
Zimbabwe
Telephone/Fax:  (+4) 726911
Cost:  U.S. $30, per year

PERMACULTURE INDIA NEWSLETTER and ECOLOGICAL VISIONS 
Earthcare Books c/o Classic Books
10 Middleton St.
Calcutta  700 071 
India

==============================================================
                   Books on Permaculture
==============================================================

INTRODUCTION TO PERMACULTURE by Bill Mollison and Reny Mia Slay. 
1991.  Tagari Publishers, Tyalgum, Australia.  198 p. 

PERMACULTURE ONE: A PERENNIAL AGRICULTURE FOR HUMAN SETTLEMENTS,
3rd ed (Reprint of 1978 ed) by Bill Mollison and David Holmgren. 
1987.  Tagari Publishers, Tyalgum, New South Wales, Australia. 
127 p. 

PERMACULTURE TWO: A PRACTICAL DESIGN FOR TOWN AND COUNTRY IN
PERMANENT AGRICULTURE by Bill Mollison.  1979.  Tagari Press,
Stanley, Australia.  150 p. 

PERMACULTURE: A DESIGNER'S MANUAL by Bill Mollison.  1988. 
Tagari Publications, Tyalgum, Australia.  576 p.   

THE BEST OF PERMACULTURE by Max O. Lindegger and Robert Tap. 
1986.  Nascimanere Publishers, Nambour, Australia.  136 p. 

THE PERMACULTURE WAY: PRACTICAL WAYS TO CREATE A SELF-SUSTAINING
WORLD by Graham Bell.  1992.  Thorsons, London.  239 p. 

THE PERMACULTURE GARDEN by Graham Bell.  1994.  Thorsons, London. 
170 p.

URBAN PERMACULTURE by David Watkins.  1993.  Permanent
Publications, U.K.  152 p. 

PERMACULTURE IN A NUTSHELL by Patrick Whitefield.  1993. 
Permanent Publications, U.K.  75 p. 

EARTH USER'S GUIDE TO PERMACULTURE by Rosemary Morrow and Rob
Allsop.  1994.  Kangaroo Press, Kenthurst, NSW Australia.  152 p.

GETTING STARTED IN PERMACULTURE by Ross and Jennifer Mars.  1995. 
Candlelight Trust, Hovea, Western Australia.  60 p. 

==============================================================
      A FEW GOOD BOOKS for the PERMACULTURIST'S BOOKSHELF 
==============================================================

CORNUCOPIA: A SOURCE BOOK OF EDIBLE PLANTS by Stephen Facciola.
1990.  Kampong Publications, Vista, CA.  678 p. 

DESIGNING & MAINTAINING YOUR EDIBLE LANDSCAPE NATURALLY by Robert
Kourick.  1986.  Metamorphic Press, Santa Rosa, CA.  370 p. 

TREE CROPS: A PERMANENT AGRICULTURE by J. Russell Smith.  1987. 
Island Press, Washington, D.C.  408 p.  

THE PERMACULTURE BOOK OF FERMENT & HUMAN NUTRITION by Bill
Mollison.  1993.  Tagari Publications, Tyalgum, Australia.  
288 p.  

==============================================================
        ELECTRONIC SOURCES OF PERMACULTURE INFORMATION 
===============================================================

1.   Permaculture-Mg Internet Discussion List in the United
     States
     
     permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu

     To subscribe, send email to "almanac@amani.ces.ncsu.edu" 
     with SUBSCRIBE PERMACULTURE-MG YOUR NAME in the body of
     email

2.   Permaculture Discussion List in Western Australia
     
     perma@eepo.com.au

     To subscribe, send email to "listserv@eepo.com.au"
     with SUBSCRIBE PERMA YOUR NAME in the body of email

3.   Organic Gardening & Permaculture Information 
     
     http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/The_Sustainable_Farmstead.html
     http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture.html
     Email: london@sunsite.unc.edu

4.   Permaculture Guide at Communications for a Sustainable
     Future

     http://csf.colorado.edu:8080/

5.   Permaculture International Journal (Australia)

     http://nornet.nor.com.au/environment/perma/
     Email:  pcjournal@peg.apc.org

6.   International Permaculture Institute (Australia)

     Email:  perminst@peg.apc.org

7.   Permaculture Global Assistance Network (Australia)

     http://www.peg.apc.org/~pgan

8.   Permaculture in Western Australia

     http://www.eepo.com.au/perma/

9.   Permaculture in South Australia - "What's Happening in
     Permaculture"

     http://dove.mtx.net.au/%7Esteveo/wotsnu.html

10.  Correspondence Course on Permaculture (Australia)

     http://www.qldnet.com.au/acs

11.  Permaculture Visions International's Correspondence Course
     (Australia)

     Email:  askpv@ozemail.com.au 

12.  British Permaculture Magazine/Permanent Publications Web
     Site

     http://www.uea.ac.uk/~e415/home.html

13.  PermaWeb in Great Britain

     http://www.sysmag.com/permaweb

14.  Permaculture Association (Britain)

     http://www.sysmag.com/permaweb/groups/pcbritain

15.  Bay Area Permaculture Group 

     http://www.nbn.com/people/bapg/

16.  Permaculture Institute of Northern California
     
     http://www.nbn.com/people/bapg/pinc.html

17.  Friends of the Trees 
     
     http://www.pacificrim.net/~trees/

18.  Cross Timbers Permaculture Institute in Texas
     
     http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/ctpi/cross_t.htm
     Email:  7539.1353@compuserve.com

19.  Central Rocky Mountain Permaculture Institute

     Email:  103070.2354@compuserve.com

20.  Permaculture on "Mind*Body*Spirit" (South Africa)

     http://www.pix.za/mbs/body/perma.htm

21.  Permaculture on Carmela's Home Page 

     http://www.ozoline.com.au/permaculture/index.html

22.  Plants for a Future On-Line

     http://www.liv.ac.uk/~rmorris/pfaf/index.html

23.  Institute for Bioregional Studies

     http://www.cycor.ca/IBS/

24.  EcoVillage Information Service

     http://www.gaia.org/

25.  Crystal Waters Permaculture Village

     http://www.gaia.org/crystalwaters/

26.  The Farm EcoVillage Training Center

     http://www.gaia.org/farm/

27.  Intentional Communities on the Web
     http://www.well.com/user/cmty/iclist.html

28.  Findhorn 

     http://www.gaia.org/findhorn/

29.  Arcosanti  

     http://www.arcosanti.org

30.  Auroville 

     http://www.webcom.com/~miraura/aa/av/av.html
    
31.  Permaculture FAQ on the Web  

     Hyper-Text
          http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/faq.html 

     Ascii-Text 
          http://sunsite.unc.edu/london/permaculture/faq.v1.1 

==============================================================
                         - * - 
==============================================================

The Permaculture FAQ was compiled by Steve Diver(*) for the 
permaculture-mg mailing list  
 
Send updates, comments, and corrections to: 
         steved@ncatfyv.uark.edu
                   or 
         permaculture-mg@amani.ces.ncsu.edu

(*) Permaculture Design Course graduate, Michaela
    Farm/Sisters of St. Francis, Oldenburg, Indiana

=============================================================
                      - * - 
=============================================================

  

From almanac-request@amani.ces.ncsu.edu  Wed May 15 10:03:33 1996
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To: Sal Schettino <sals@rain.org>
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Subject: Re: How do you keep the chicken from eating the plants) 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 14 May 1996 19:05:28 PDT."
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HI Sal,

I once visited a place called Solviva on Martha's Vineyard, MA.  The
woman who designed and lives there had a chicken coop attached to one
side of the green house.  In addition the greenhouse was attached to
the house at the kitchen.  This was many years ago but as I recall the
chickens were in cages.  I have run across articles written about
Solviva and would be willing to snail mail you what I have if you are
interested.

Take care,

Jennifer
> 
> I read in the permaculture book about building a chicken coop in the green
> house so the chickens will heat the greenhouse with their body heat.I
> would sure like to know more about this.  How do you keep the chickens
> from eating the plants. Where can I get the plans for such a coop. 
> thanks
> 
> 
> Sal Schettino,Organic Farmer,don't panic eat organic,sals@rain.org
> or check out my homepage:            http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html    .
> 
> 

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Friends,

Can anyone tell me anything about the role of organic/sustainable 
agriculture in Carbondale, IL and environs?  The friends with whom I have 
been planning for several years have decided they want to move there, and I 
have never been there.  Is there a network (organizational or social) of 
organic growers? of small farmers in general?  Farmers' markets? demand 
for organic products? Efforts to preserve farmland/soil? Awareness of CSAs?
Bioregional awareness?  Is farmland getting chewed up by urbanization as 
it is here in California? Are most extension agents aware of teh concerns 
and practices of organic/sustainable agriculture?
 Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Rachel R. Freifelder
Davis, CA

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Although there seems to be a wealth of information about permaculture in
temperate zones I have not seen very much regarding the tropics.

My wife and I have a farm in Costa Rica and are beginning to do some
research regarding permaculture applications for a semi-arid region of that
country. I am reading some of Mollison's stuff pertaining to semi-arid
regions. That has been very helpful. However,
are there any folks out there who have direct knowlegde of tropical
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Anyone who can be of help can write me   <<codyrica@ix.netcom.com>>

Thanks

JR

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Friends,

Can anyone tell me anything about the role of organic/sustainable 
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been planning for several years have decided they want to move there, and I 
have never been there.  Is there a network (organizational or social) of 
organic growers? of small farmers in general?  Farmers' markets? demand 
for organic products? Efforts to preserve farmland/soil? Awareness of CSAs?
Bioregional awareness?  Is farmland getting chewed up by urbanization as 
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Rachel R. Freifelder
Davis, CA

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I am looking forward to a version of the CD rom, as I and many of my =
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Greetings!  My name is Chris Fielden and I am a newbie to this discussion
group.  Recently I took the pc design course at Glen Rose, TX with Bill
Mollison and Scott Pittman.  I am currently living in Pensacola, FL.
However, I will be moving to Tennessee in August, into the area SE of
Nashville around Murfeesboro.  Does anyone know of permaculture, CSA's,
organic farms, sustainable models, anything having to do with living
sustainably taking place in that region?  Thanx.

At the course a bunch of us agreed we would subscribe to this group and
continue our discussions and support for one another online.  It is
wonderful to be a part of the permaculture family (nation) and it is my hope
to become active on this list and others.  My vision is to create a
permaculture educational center in Tennessee, for permaculture to become not
only my passion but a source of income for me.  I look forward to your
responses and getting to know you!
Christopher Fielden
cfielden@gulf.net

With my mark I affirm my life to be a marvelous adventure, and so it is.

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From: Vicki Garland <blissv@nmhu.campus.mci.net>
Subject: Re: How do you keep the chicken from eating the plants)
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>Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 21:42:37
>To: Sal Schettino <sals@rain.org>
>From: Vicki Garland <blissv@nmhu.campus.mci.net>
>Subject: Re: How do you keep the chicken from eating the plants)
>
>Hi Sal..Will send the few pages from the book right away...The plan is to
get the tractor built today and get the hens situated...Just a few little
Bantys to HOPEFULLY eat up the thousands of grasshoppers that have hatched
out in the last three weeks and leveled all my plantings.  It is still early
enough in the season to get another planting in. Currently have three baby
turkeys growing..too small to put out yet and need help NOW.  Tried
everything else from diatomaceous earth to Nosema with little success. Hope
the birds are hungry for hoppers. We're in a miserable drought and living
here temporarily while finishing school so are on a small scale..just
getting 4 hens so are making a small tractor..4'x 6' and 3' high. It will
have four nesting boxes(12"x12"x10") on one end, feeder and waterer
suspended from the top so they move gracefully along with the
tractor,lightweight galvanized roofing on top, back and ends and chicken
wire across the front. Plan is to let chickies roam around the first few
days to forage (don't care if they eat remains of plants since there is not
much left) and then move them in the tractor every few days to grazing
areas.  There are lots of alternative methods but think this will serve our
needs best.  The lid will open to change food and gather eggs.  
>        Enjoyed the part of your web page I was able to tap into in limited
time last evening.  Thank you for all the info and effort..I have never had
a cherimoya..what are they like? We are looking to relocate to a more
abundant, verdant, growing area SOON..where I can grow a wider range of
plants.  After all the years I grew in the Pacific Northwest, this New
Mexico climate delights me with the amazing sunshine but I grieve the lack
of water.  Take care and love those plants!              
>                 Vicki Garland
>
>
> At 05:49 AM 5/15/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>Sal Schettino
>>7074 Casitas Pass Rd.
>>Carpinteria,Ca. 93013
>>
>>Thanks I would like to see the plans.  What kind of tractor are you
>>making?  
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 14 May 1996, Vicki Garland wrote:
>>
>>> At 07:05 PM 5/14/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>> >
>>> >I read in the permaculture book about building a chicken coop in the green
>>> >house so the chickens will heat the greenhouse with their body heat.I
>>> >would sure like to know more about this.  How do you keep the chickens
>>> >from eating the plants. Where can I get the plans for such a coop. 
>>> >thanks
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Sal Schettino,Organic Farmer,don't panic eat organic,sals@rain.org
>>> >or check out my homepage:            http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html    .
>>> >
>>> >Hi Sal! I just read*Chicken Tractor-the Gardener's Guide to Happy Hens and
>>> Healthy Soil* by Andy Lee. It's very informative and has a good chapter on
>>> greenhousing chickens that could be helpful for you.  I haven't had chickens
>>> in my greenhouse yet but am in the process of building a tractor. If you
>>> don't have an interest in getting the book, I will copy the specific pages
>>> on the greenhouse info and snailmail them to you.  Address, if interested.
>>> Vicki Garland
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>>
>>Sal Schettino,Organic Farmer,don't panic eat organic,sals@rain.org
>>or check out my homepage:            http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html    .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Subject:  Shredded office paper
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Hi growers:
Some months ago I wrote asking if anyone had experience with using
shredded office paper in the garden.   The replies were divided.   So I
have used it in several ways and thought you might like to know the
results.   It has not been very successful in the compost, neither an open
stack nor the enclosed bins.   Perhaps I made the layer too thick.   Next
time I might attempt mixing it with the straw or grass layer.   What I found
with my first efforts was that it packed down into a thick impermeable
layer and did not get broken down at the same rate, or even stopped the
breaking down of the layers above.
However, it has been quite successful as a weed suppressent and was
particularly successful under the strawberry plants.   The slugs and
snails seemed to be deterred to some extent.
The next experiement will be to use it instead of straw to build up around
potatoes.
Those of you living in the country probably find this all quite irrelevant,
but as I'm an urbanite and work in an office also, I'm surrounded by the
stuff and hate to see a free source of compostable material going to
waste!
Keep happy folks.    Paula

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Wondering if there are any of you that live in the Ashland/Phoenix/Talent
area of Oregon?  We intend to relocate to that area or possibly far northern
Cal when we finish here in northern New Mexico.  My partner, a builder
excelling in all aspects of construction for 20+ years, will have his degree
complete for architecture by end of fall semester and is excited to design
and build straw bale, solar dwellings.  I will have my advanced
certification complete by then. We need more water to have the orchards and
organic nursery we envision.  Any communication from you will be appreciated.
   Vicki Garland

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When you compost with paper are you turning the pile with any
regularity (once a week or more)?  Also, paper is considered a "brown"
material or source of carbon.  As you observed when layers of paper
are too thick they will mat up in the compost pile.  My suggestion is
to build layers of roughly the same amount of "green" (nitrogen
sources) and brown materials.  Build one layer consisting of brown and
then green material, wet down just to dampen (don't soak) and then
stir the layers together before building another layer.  Continue
until the bin is full.  Turn this pile at least once a week and wet as
needed.  One should obtain good compost within 6 weeks. In addition
a good manageable pile that reaches the adequate temperatures for
decomposition is 3'x3'x3' (27 cu.ft.).  I have made compost that
consisted of newspaper and manure only and it was wonderful.  

Glad to hear the paper is working well as a mulch for your plants.  I
have used newpaper for this and also dried grass clippings.  It really
extends the time between watering for my veggies.  

Take care, Jennifer

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                         Permaculture Design Course

August 4-17, 1996
(at the Spry Point Ark, formerly the New Alchemy Institute)
King's County, Prince Edward Island

Permaculture is about self-reliance, growing food, and building
energy-efficient structures. The PDC teaches the principles by which
sustainable systems become responsive to economic, social and environmental
elements. Graduates will be certified as 'Permaculture Designers' and will
be entitled to use the term in the pursuit of livelihood.

Introduction

Through lecture, discussion, observation and hands-on learning,
participants will develop the practical skills and knowledge to design and
implement sustainable systems that are in harmony with the natural world.
With roots in the design of sustainable agricultural systems permaculture
has evolved into a program for designing ecological communities and
restoring urban centers. It is about self-reliance, growing food, and
building creative, beautiful, energy-efficient structures from local
materials.
Permaculture principles and design methodologies can be applied anywhere.
in the world.

                   --------------------------------------

Course Topics

   * Permaculture methodlogy
   * Ethics of permaculture
   * Observation Skills
   * Bioregional Mapping
   * Local Self-Reliance
   * Site Analysis
   * Medicinal Herb
   * Organic Agriculture
   * Agroforestry Systems
   * Edibile Landscaping
   * Keyline System
   * Land Trusts & Communities
   * Aquaculture
   * Greenhouses
   * Erosion Control
   * Soil Microbiology
   * Sustainable Forestry
   * Ecosystem Restoration
   * Livestock and Wildlife
   * Urban Permaculture
   * Appropriate Energy
   * Working in the South
   * Formal & Informal Economies

and much, much more...

                   --------------------------------------

Instructors

Monica Kuhn, architect and co-founder of Rooftop Gardens Resource Group.
Frequent teacher of permaculture and urban greening issues.

Garry Lean, permaculture designer and professor of Integrated Resource
Management at Sir Sandford Fleming College.

Phil Ferraro, Director, Institute for Bioregional Studies, and Permaculture
Designer.

Dr. Dan Earle, Professor Landscape Architecture; Louisiana State
University. Permaculture designer.

Dr. John Todd and Nancy Jack Todd, Co-founders of the New Alchemy Institute
and Ocean Arks International. Pioneers in biological technologies and
ecological planning.

Plus: Guest Speakers involved in sustainable agricultural, renewable
energy, ecological planning and green economics.

                   --------------------------------------

Certification

Course graduates will be certified as Permaculture Design Trainees.
Graduates are entitled to use the term "Permaculture" in the pursuit of
livelihood, and educational uses.

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        The Ark, an early exploration in weaving together the sun,
           wind, biology and architecture on behalf of humanity.

Permaculture Course Site and Facilities

The Spry Point Ark was constructed on a 96 acre penninsula in eastern PEI,
by the New Alchemy Institute in the 1970's. Its original purpose was a
research centre for the science and practice of ecological technologies.
Today it is managed as a "three star" inn and restaurant by the local
community cooperative. The beautiful natural surroundings, panoramic views,
hiking trails, cliffs and sandy beaches make this an ideal setting for
visiting, learning and relaxing.
The PDC participants will develop a site plan for the entire penninsula and
evaluate its potential for creating an 'eco-village'. Classes will be held
in the barn. Morning and evening meals will be served in the restaurant
with a noon time meal served outdoors. A group camping site is being
established however participants can make separate arrangements to stay in
the inn. You can call the Ark Inn at 1 800 665-2400 or (902) 583-2400 to
reserve a room during the PDC.

Pets *Please* No pets.

Families are welcome on site for the additional cost of room and board
only. Contact IBS for prices.

Childcare

Special arrangements can be made for childcare. Please call IBS prior to
registering.

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Some precepts basic to both permaculture and bioregionalism

   * Basis in ecology;
   * Basing unique culture on indigenous materials;
   * High degree of local self-sufficiency;
   * Observation / awareness of boundaries of plant and animal communities;
   * Preservation and restoration of native plant communities;
   * Aesthetics;
   * Worker-owned, enterprises with non-exploitative relationships;
   * Decentralized, participatory, democratic governance;
   * Recognizing relationships between elements in the system and
     maximizing symbiotic relationships.

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Getting From There to Here

Travelers can fly into the Charlottetown Airport.
Guaranteed lowest fares can be arranged by MacQueen's Travel agency.
Ph.:1(800) 969-2822, fax: (902) 894-4547
email: biketour@peinet.pe.ca

By car, take the ferry from either Pictou, Nova Scotia or Cape Tormentine,
New Brunswick.
To get to Spry Point, head east to Rt. 310 and Little Pond, PEI.
Turn at the sign for the Ark Inn. (Approximately one hour east of
Charlottetown).

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Summer Program Fees

Permaculture Design Course: (August 4-17) $725.

Course fees for USA Residents: At current rates of exchange this is less
than U.S.$500.00 (Please pay in Canadian currency).

Eco-Cities Colloquia (August 18-21) $500.00.

Affordable Housing / Straw-bale Workshop (August 23-25) $125.00.

PDC plus Eco-Cities Colloquia $985.00.

PDC, Eco-Cities Colloquia plus Housing Workshop $1050.00.

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  Institue for Bioregional Studies| Eco-citiesColloquia| Resources/Books|
                              Eco-preneuring

Institute for Bioregional Studies:
Phil Ferraro; pferraro@cycor.ca
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                         Permaculture Design Course

August 4-17, 1996
(at the Spry Point Ark, formerly the New Alchemy Institute)
King's County, Prince Edward Island

Permaculture is about self-reliance, growing food, and building
energy-efficient structures. The PDC teaches the principles by which
sustainable systems become responsive to economic, social and environmental
elements. Graduates will be certified as 'Permaculture Designers' and will
be entitled to use the term in the pursuit of livelihood.

Introduction

Through lecture, discussion, observation and hands-on learning,
participants will develop the practical skills and knowledge to design and
implement sustainable systems that are in harmony with the natural world.
With roots in the design of sustainable agricultural systems permaculture
has evolved into a program for designing ecological communities and
restoring urban centers. It is about self-reliance, growing food, and
building creative, beautiful, energy-efficient structures from local
materials.
Permaculture principles and design methodologies can be applied anywhere.
in the world.

                   --------------------------------------

Course Topics

   * Permaculture methodlogy
   * Ethics of permaculture
   * Observation Skills
   * Bioregional Mapping
   * Local Self-Reliance
   * Site Analysis
   * Medicinal Herb
   * Organic Agriculture
   * Agroforestry Systems
   * Edibile Landscaping
   * Keyline System
   * Land Trusts & Communities
   * Aquaculture
   * Greenhouses
   * Erosion Control
   * Soil Microbiology
   * Sustainable Forestry
   * Ecosystem Restoration
   * Livestock and Wildlife
   * Urban Permaculture
   * Appropriate Energy
   * Working in the South
   * Formal & Informal Economies

and much, much more...

                   --------------------------------------

Instructors

Monica Kuhn, architect and co-founder of Rooftop Gardens Resource Group.
Frequent teacher of permaculture and urban greening issues.

Garry Lean, permaculture designer and professor of Integrated Resource
Management at Sir Sandford Fleming College.

Phil Ferraro, Director, Institute for Bioregional Studies, and Permaculture
Designer.

Dr. Dan Earle, Professor Landscape Architecture; Louisiana State
University. Permaculture designer.

Dr. John Todd and Nancy Jack Todd, Co-founders of the New Alchemy Institute
and Ocean Arks International. Pioneers in biological technologies and
ecological planning.

Plus: Guest Speakers involved in sustainable agricultural, renewable
energy, ecological planning and green economics.

                   --------------------------------------

Certification

Course graduates will be certified as Permaculture Design Trainees.
Graduates are entitled to use the term "Permaculture" in the pursuit of
livelihood, and educational uses.

                   --------------------------------------

                                 [image]

        The Ark, an early exploration in weaving together the sun,
           wind, biology and architecture on behalf of humanity.

Permaculture Course Site and Facilities

The Spry Point Ark was constructed on a 96 acre penninsula in eastern PEI,
by the New Alchemy Institute in the 1970's. Its original purpose was a
research centre for the science and practice of ecological technologies.
Today it is managed as a "three star" inn and restaurant by the local
community cooperative. The beautiful natural surroundings, panoramic views,
hiking trails, cliffs and sandy beaches make this an ideal setting for
visiting, learning and relaxing.
The PDC participants will develop a site plan for the entire penninsula and
evaluate its potential for creating an 'eco-village'. Classes will be held
in the barn. Morning and evening meals will be served in the restaurant
with a noon time meal served outdoors. A group camping site is being
established however participants can make separate arrangements to stay in
the inn. You can call the Ark Inn at 1 800 665-2400 or (902) 583-2400 to
reserve a room during the PDC.

Pets *Please* No pets.

Families are welcome on site for the additional cost of room and board
only. Contact IBS for prices.

Childcare

Special arrangements can be made for childcare. Please call IBS prior to
registering.

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Some precepts basic to both permaculture and bioregionalism

   * Basis in ecology;
   * Basing unique culture on indigenous materials;
   * High degree of local self-sufficiency;
   * Observation / awareness of boundaries of plant and animal communities;
   * Preservation and restoration of native plant communities;
   * Aesthetics;
   * Worker-owned, enterprises with non-exploitative relationships;
   * Decentralized, participatory, democratic governance;
   * Recognizing relationships between elements in the system and
     maximizing symbiotic relationships.

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Getting From There to Here

Travelers can fly into the Charlottetown Airport.
Guaranteed lowest fares can be arranged by MacQueen's Travel agency.
Ph.:1(800) 969-2822, fax: (902) 894-4547
email: biketour@peinet.pe.ca

By car, take the ferry from either Pictou, Nova Scotia or Cape Tormentine,
New Brunswick.
To get to Spry Point, head east to Rt. 310 and Little Pond, PEI.
Turn at the sign for the Ark Inn. (Approximately one hour east of
Charlottetown).

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Summer Program Fees

Permaculture Design Course: (August 4-17) $725.

Course fees for USA Residents: At current rates of exchange this is less
than U.S.$500.00 (Please pay in Canadian currency).

Eco-Cities Colloquia (August 18-21) $500.00.

Affordable Housing / Straw-bale Workshop (August 23-25) $125.00.

PDC plus Eco-Cities Colloquia $985.00.

PDC, Eco-Cities Colloquia plus Housing Workshop $1050.00.

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ECO-CITIES

Design Colloquia:
Designing Sustainable Communities
August 18-21, 1996
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island

The Challenge

Cities are the most complex products of humankind. They have always been
centres of human endeavor and artistic excellence. During the 20th century
they have become global environmental parasites; processing food, fuel,
energy and consuming resources well beyond their boundaries. In the 21st
century, cities must function in very different ways or they will undermine
their own survival and that of their inhabitants.

Action Plans

An outstanding group of facilitators will work with participants to develop
a model eco-city along the Charlotetown waterfront; on lands the city is
currently soliciting proposals for.
The new plans will offer organizational approaches that budget our
resources, conserve energy, utilize renewable energy technologies, build
long lasting structures, develop efficient public transportation, reduce
and recycle wastes and supply staple foods locally.

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Presentation and Workshop Topics:

   * Contemporary Perceptions of Eco-Planning
   * Identifying Issues and Establishing Planning Goals
   * Inventory and Analysis of the Physical Environment
   * Precepts of Eco-Design
   * Neo-Traditional Design/New Urbanism
   * Permaculture Design and Bioregional Planning
   * Urban forestry, and Urban Agricultural Systems
   * Appropriate Technologies (food, energy, shelter)
   * Eco-Planning for Wildlife and for Humans
   * Strategies for Regenerative Design
   * Guiding Principles for Regional Planning
   * Waste as a Resource
   * Economic Policy and Transition
   * Applying Ecosystem Planning Concepts
   * Case Studies

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Who Should Come

Architects, Builders, Landscape Architects, Landscapers, Planners,
Engineers, Teachers, Artists, Farmers, Technicians, Urban Activists,
Permaculture Designers, and Citizens of Urban Neighborhoods whose interest
is to renew cities so that they continue to be places where people come
together to celebrate the creativity of urban life.

                   --------------------------------------

Site and Facilities

Simply known as "the Island" to Canadians, Prince Edward Island is a safe,
enjoyable destination for vacationers of all ages. Charlottetown is the
provincial capital and the "Birthplace of Confederation". It offers
hundreds of attractions and activities to suit all tastes.
Participants will stay in co-housing' apartments on the University of
Prince Edward Island campus.
Breakfast and snack foods will be provided in each apartment. Evening meals
can be prepared in the apartments or participants can dine out. Stores,
restaurants and entertainment venues are within walking distance.
Workshops will be a short walk or bike ride down the newly completed
Confederation Trail, which runs through the centre of the city, to the
waterfront.

                   --------------------------------------

List of Invited Speakers to Date:

Dr. Doug Aberely, editor, Futures by Design: The Practice of Ecological
Planning and Boundaries of Home: Mapping for Local Empowerment.

Dr. David Bell, Former Dean, Faculty of Environmental Studies, and
Director, Centre for Applied Sustainability, York University.

Dr. Janis Birkeland, Co-Director, Centre for Environmental Philosophy,
Planning & Design, Univ. of Canberra, Australia.

Monique Côté, Architect, Permaculture Designer and Filmaker. Part-time
teacher, Université du Québec à Montréal.

Dr. Ray Cote, Director, School of Environmental Planning, Dalhousie
University. Ray, has developed a system for designing industrial parks as
closed ecosystems, recycling and reusing wastes.

David Daughton, Former coordinator of the Atlantic Peoples Housing Coop and
National Chairperson of the Canadian Environmental Network. Certified co-op
housing instructor. Chair of the Health Information Resource Centre.

Dr. Dan Earle, Professor of Landscape Architecture, Lousiana State
University, Permaculture Designer.

Phil Ferraro, Director, IBS, Conference Coordinator and Permaculture
Designer.

Ole Hammarlund, Architect.

Mike Kohler, Architect and Town Planner.

Karen Lipps, Landscape Architect.

Malcolm Lodge, Professional Engineer, Wind Energy Technology
ExpertPresident, Island Technologies Inc, "Wind Energy and Electrical
Engineers"Charlottetown, P,E.I. Founder of the Atlantic Wind Test Site,
Canada'sNational Laboratory for wind energy research and development at
North Cape, P.E.I.

Christine MacKinnon, Policy and Planning Coordinator, Department of
Environmental Resources, Prince Edward Island.

John Massengale, AIA is an architect, town planner and writer. He is
co-author, with Robert A.M. Stern, of "New York 1900, Metropolitan
Architecture & Urbanism, 1890-1914" and "The Anglo-American Suburb", and is
writing "The End of Architecture, The End of Sprawl" with a grant from the
Graham Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Visual Arts. Mr. Massengale
was Town Architect of Seaside, Florida in 1986, and is a member of the
Congress for the New Urbanism.

Ernie Morello, Charlottetown Area Development Corporation.

Dr. William Rees, Dean, Community and Rural Planing, UBC. Bill, coined the
term, "Our Ecological Footprint" for a system used to estimate our
sustainability.

David Slabotsky, President, Atlantic Resource Conversion Co-op Parks
Manager, Wolfville, Nova Scotia.

Dr. John Todd, Co-founder of the New Alchemy Institute and President of
Ocean Arks International. A pioneer in the use of ecosystems as a form of
technology-Living Macines-for the treatment of wastes, purifying water and
food production. Co-authored: "Reinhabiting Cities and Towns: Designing for
Sustainability", "The Village as Social Ecology", "From Eco-Cities to
Living Machines" and numerous other works on sustainable living.

Nancy Jack Todd, Co-founder of the New Alchemy Institute and editor of
'Annals of the Earth'. Co-winner of the Swiss Threshold Award, Friends of
United Nations Environment Programme Award and the Chrysler Award for
Innovation in Design. Currently working on a book about women and ecology.

                   --------------------------------------

Getting From There to Here

Travelers can fly into the Charlottetown Airport. Guaranteed lowest fares
can be arranged by MacQueen's Travel agency.
Ph.:1(800) 969-2822, fax: (902) 894-4547
email: biketour@peinet.pe.ca

By car, take the ferry from either Pictou, Nova Scotia or Cape Tormentine,
New Brunswick.

Accomodations

Accomodations for the Eco-Cities conference are at the University of Prince
Edward Island. Participants will stay in Blanchard Hall; located on the
corner of University Avenue and Belvidere Road, Charlottetown.

Pets *Please* No pets.

Families are welcome on site for the additional cost of room and board
only. Contact IBS for prices.

Childcare

Special arrangements can be made for childcare. Please call IBS prior to
registering.

                   --------------------------------------

Summer Program Fees

Permaculture Design Course: (August 4-17) $725.

Course fees for USA Residents: At current rates of exchange this is less
than U.S.$500.00 (Please pay in Canadian currency).

Eco-Cities Colloquia (August 18-21) $500.00.

Affordable Housing / Straw-bale Workshop (August 23-25) $125.00.

PDC plus Eco-Cities Colloquia $985.00.

PDC, Eco-Cities Colloquia plus Housing Workshop $1050.00.

                   --------------------------------------

Some Other Reasons for Coming to Prince Edward Island

PEI is known for its beauty, friendly people and relaxed lifestyle. It is
also a magical blend of sand, clay and sea bursting with festivals, events
& exciting family attractions.There are major events occuring before,
during and after the IBS programs. Come early! Stay late! And play on our
island! For more information call Tourism PEI at: 1-800-4PEI.
For more information on this program or the Permacultutre Design Course and
Affordable Housing/Straw-bale Workshop contact:

                   --------------------------------------

                       For More Information contact:

                     Institute for Bioregional Studies
                     449, University Avenue, Suite 126
                     Charlottetown, PE, CANADA C1A 8K3
                           Phone: (902) 892-9578

              "Developing Local Solutions to Global Problems"

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Both you and I seem to have the wrong end of the stick here 
- we need to find the person who is in charge of the CD rom dream.  

On another note - I am currently working on a big software package that will 
present permaculture designs and ideas.  Our package will be on CD rom and 
will be info-tainment rather than just listings.  It will be modular and get bigger as
resources permit.
For the last 2 years I have been writing a text for PDC it is about 400 pages with
data and in depth research on grey areas like toxins in the soil through 
to Care for People.

Some other people have spent time developing a data base - if I can 
recall their address I'll let the net know - I was disappointed because they
wanted a lot of money for it - like $800  -= one can''t hope to cover costs on
initial sales - you have to plan to cover costs by spreading it over a lot of 
sales I think - otherwise you kill the market.
April


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Greetings, 

Having followed the CD-ROM thread somewhat, I wanted to mention
the HSCP goal of producing interactive "hyper-media" projects on
permaculture, appropriate tech, sustainable ag, watershed restoration, and
related topics. 

Anticipating the continued growth and data acceleration of the net, we
hope to distribute the productions on the web (or it's future
manifestation) for potential clients to download direct. We believe the
need to "burn" the script to CD will become an unnecessary step in getting
the content to folks who want it. (No, I not going to stick my neck out 
with an exact time frame prediction).

Very best of luck!
Christopher M Robinson
The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
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Bloomsburg University and the NRCS alon with the EPA (319) are sponsoring 
a Soil Health and Renewability Seminar at Bloomsburg, PA June 27

June 27, 1996 at Bloomsburg University of PA- 134 Hartline Science Center.

Registration 8:30-9:15

Welcome 9:15

9:30   A Renewable vs Nonrenewable Perspective
         Dr.Bryce Payne,Soil Scientist,Wilkes University
10:15  Relationship of Soil Fauna to Soil Health
         Dr.William Edwards, Ret.USDA-ARS, Chosocton
11:00  Break

11:15  Rhizobotany, the Root of Agriculture
         Dr.Richard Zobel, Reasearch Geneticist, Cornell University
12:00  Lunch

1:15   Composting, A Waste Mgt. Alternative
         Christopher Lufkin, Michigan State Coop.Extension
2:00   Compost and Disease Suppression
         Dr. Pat Milner, USDA-ARS, Beltsville
2:45   Break

3:00   Ecological Soil Magement, An Organic Grower's Perspective
         Grace Gershuny, USDA-AMS, National Organic Program
3:45   How Plants Make Soils Work
         Dr.Bryce Payne, Soils Scientist, Wilkes University
4:30   Ask the Presenters
         Presenter Panel

Cost includes lunch- $15.00 Contact Ron Phelps At the Pocono RC&D 395
Bedford Street
Clarks Summit, PA 18411 or call (717)- 586-1019

Larry Breech


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Subject: Re: Soil Health and Renewability Seminar

Bloomsburg University and the NRCS alon with the EPA (319) are sponsoring 
a Soil Health and Renewability Seminar at Bloomsburg, PA June 27

June 27, 1996 at Bloomsburg University of PA- 134 Hartline Science Center.

Registration 8:30-9:15

Welcome 9:15

9:30   A Renewable vs Nonrenewable Perspective
         Dr.Bryce Payne,Soil Scientist,Wilkes University
10:15  Relationship of Soil Fauna to Soil Health
         Dr.William Edwards, Ret.USDA-ARS, Chosocton
11:00  Break

11:15  Rhizobotany, the Root of Agriculture
         Dr.Richard Zobel, Reasearch Geneticist, Cornell University
12:00  Lunch

1:15   Composting, A Waste Mgt. Alternative
         Christopher Lufkin, Michigan State Coop.Extension
2:00   Compost and Disease Suppression
         Dr. Pat Milner, USDA-ARS, Beltsville
2:45   Break

3:00   Ecological Soil Magement, An Organic Grower's Perspective
         Grace Gershuny, USDA-AMS, National Organic Program
3:45   How Plants Make Soils Work
         Dr.Bryce Payne, Soils Scientist, Wilkes University
4:30   Ask the Presenters
         Presenter Panel

Cost includes lunch- $15.00 Contact Ron Phelps At the Pocono RC&D 395
Bedford Street
Clarks Summit, PA 18411 or call (717)- 586-1019

Larry Breech


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Having been involved through out non-profit group in producing 4 
interactive multimedia CD-ROM discs, plus a 2-floppy interactive 
multimedia program, and also being part of the growth and maintenance of 
probably the largest non-governmental Internet site on sustainable energy 
development, i come to a very different conclusion than Christopher's 
no-cd approach.

we find that cd-rom is far outpacing web 
access, let alone fast web access, in many developing countries.  The 
National Academy of Sciences study on African digital tools, for example, 
finds the CD-ROM drive to be the fastest growing peripheral after the 
computer. At $100  a drive, you simply can't beat an off-line device 
when you're caught in an environment with few phone lines, all of which 
are highly unreliable and skittish, and cost a lot.

Second, you can now press a CD-ROM for $1 each (the recent cost of our 
Greening of the White House CD-ROM released on Earth Day), and inhouse 
you can press prototypes and pre-releases on your own CD-Recorder now 
costing a little more than $1,000.

Downloading 700 MB of info is pretty imposing, even w/ a T1.  Yes, when 
Ethernet speeds become available it would be superfluous to press CDs, 
but that's a fair number of years for most of the planet.  In the 
meantime, using all digital storage media makes sense -- floppys (poised 
to leap from 1+ MB to 100+ MB if Sony gets its market share), CD-ROMs 
(the R&D innovations in the pipeline promise steady increases on the 
amount of storage on a disc to eventually 10x current levels), and by 
email/Internet.

Now, admittedly, one could just leave off the videos, and focus on text, 
graphics, photos, and w/ the spread of Javascripts and Shockwave, 
interactive spreadsheets and graphic exercises.  But I, for one, would 
love to see the video that I saw of Masanobu Fukuoka teaching people his 
natural farming method become available as soon as possible, and i only see 
that possible on a CD-ROM.  Likewise, i would love to get the courses 
given by Max Lindegger, Leah Harrison, and a host of others on video slices.

admittedly, getting material up on the web is easier than producing a 
good cd-rom, but we tend to think its worth pursuing both paths.

 Michael Totten, Director
Center for Renewable Energy & Sustainable Technology (CREST)
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On Tue, 21 May 1996, Christopher Robinson wrote:

> Greetings, 
> 
> Having followed the CD-ROM thread somewhat, I wanted to mention
> the HSCP goal of producing interactive "hyper-media" projects on
> permaculture, appropriate tech, sustainable ag, watershed restoration, and
> related topics. 
> 
> Anticipating the continued growth and data acceleration of the net, we
> hope to distribute the productions on the web (or it's future
> manifestation) for potential clients to download direct. We believe the
> need to "burn" the script to CD will become an unnecessary step in getting
> the content to folks who want it. (No, I not going to stick my neck out 
> with an exact time frame prediction).
> 
> Very best of luck!
> Christopher M Robinson
> The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
> The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
> admin@humnat.org
> 

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On Wed, 22 May 1996, Michael Totten wrote:

> Having been involved through out non-profit group in producing 4 
> interactive multimedia CD-ROM discs, plus a 2-floppy interactive 
> multimedia program, and also being part of the growth and maintenance of 
> probably the largest non-governmental Internet site on sustainable energy 
> development, i come to a very different conclusion than Christopher's 
> no-cd approach.
> 

Greetings Michael,
I participant in several other lists that focus on more theoretical 
themes. Often these forums can deteriorate into "my point of view can 
lick your point of view" exchanges. 

Before that can develop in this thread, let me say that I'm certainly not 
advocating anyone's abandoning their CD-ROM projects to jump on the web 
bandwagon. Rather I was pointing out that all indications are that the 
web (or future manifestation of same) will become a viable conduit for 
the kind of interactive multimedia productions that are now only widely
available on CD-ROM.

As late comers to the digital media game, we decided to anticipate this 
advancement. At our present learning curve and funding, we're going to 
need most of the interim to "consolidate our feces".

I'll bet you an organic peanut ,though, that you're overestimating the time 
frame on this transformation, even in the "3rd world".

Again, the very best of luck to you.
  
Christopher M Robinson
The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
admin@humnat.org

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Thank you, Stacy, Kirby and everyone else who responded to my post.  Like I
said, I will be moving into the area SE of Nashville around Murfeesboro and
wanting to connect with permies there.  I'm wanting to establish a pc
educational center and obviously I am interested in applying for grants to
help make it happen.  Do any of you know of sources for grants having to do
with organic/permaculture research and systems?  If so I would be grateful
to know of them.  Thank you!

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yes, i have no problem being proved wrong in this case.  in fact, i've 
been chastised by most of the intl people i deal w/ for being too 
optimistic on the use of digital media in dev countries.  i am not 
beholden to any telecommunication system or digital storage media, since 
my main goal is to get as thorough of high-quality content to as many people 
as swiftly as possible, and as cheaply as possible, that promotes 
sustainable energy and resource development.

Michael Totten, Director
Center for Renewable Energy & Sustainable Technology (CREST)
****NEW ADDRESS****
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Phone: (202) 289-5368  Fax: (202) 289-5354  Email: mpt@crest.org
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On Wed, 22 May 1996, Christopher Robinson wrote:

> I'll bet you an organic peanut ,though, that you're overestimating the time 
> frame on this transformation, even in the "3rd world".
> 
> Again, the very best of luck to you.
>   
> Christopher M Robinson
> The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
> The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
> admin@humnat.org
> 

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I'm looking for someone with tropical experience to come and teach a PC
certification course on our 20-acre farm in Central Thailand sometime
between December of this year and April of 1996.

My wife and I want to take the certification and we have some friends in
Thailand that might be interested.  I couldn't guarantee a huge crowd, but
I am ready to personally guarantee expenses (economy air, 3* hotel, and
delicious Thai food) + $500/week + tuition from any one else that comes (we
would help with marketing within Thailand).

Our land has never been treated chemically but it is bordered by a canal
that receives runoff from sugar cane and rice fields, by sugar cane fields,
by rice fields, and a fish farm.  We are trying to avoid using any canal
water and we are a little higher than the surrounding fields, so I hope we
don't have a chemical problem.  The canal seems to support plenty of
aquatic life.  I don't know about the ground water.  I need some advice
before investing any more in this property.  I'd be interested in hiring
someone on a consulting basis, but maybe we can help organize the first
permaculture course in the region at the same time.  Any takers?  I guess I
will also send this message to the PC institute in Austrailia.


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I recall reading a while back about a video by R. St.B.Baker. I have a
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Mollison recently  mentioned that in Tuscanny Italy 
the grapes are grown in the same hole as a 
support tree such as the elm
But he didn't mentioned which Elm species???
Do you know - 
Also - what other trees can be used 
The Elm supports and protects the grapes from 
fire so the theory goes, in classical Greece they used 
Mulberry.  What else can be used or is in use???
Thanks in advance - April of Permaculture Visions
Mt Kembla NSW Australia

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Yes, you can pick up toxins from imported matter
(that is things you bring into your permaculture system) 
Some matter is more toxic than others - some is
pretty low - but if you are going to use a lot and 
concentrate it somehow like composting or worm
farming -you'll get higher amounts and you are going to
have to deal with it on site - because in 
Permaculture we don't let pollutants out of our 
system - we minise and 
deal with them with filters etc.
Some toxic matter can include Horse manure
from recently de-wormed horses through to heavily sprayed
fruits.  Some toxin breaks down naturally in sunlight and
others need agents like bacteria.
On the issue of Paper - we don't compost anymore becuase we everything
directly as mulch or as feed for poultry etc.  We use office ink that is
water soluble and operate a surprisingly paperless office.  We use
imported newspaper and even cardboard but don't concentrate it --
it forms a really good weed barrier and basis for all the beds -no
dig and no soil beds - just mulch.
Does this answer some of you questions??
April

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Permaculture is about complex information and technology
not just an "organic " feed.
I have had to deal with the major criticism that 
you can't teach something as practical as permaculture
via Mail or net.
AND YET 
we have had the most incredible students - sure some lack the
enthusiam needed to stick at a course as detailed and
as personally challenging as ours. We have students 
from around the world -some in remote stations
some in Jail!!! Some up the road and some in cities
the student standard is most impressive THIS IS OUR
MEASURE OF SUCCESS not just bums on seats 
I have also taught the conventional face to face. 
And in a face = to -face situation there is little time
for internalising and then asking questions.  There is
hardly anyroom for interactivity on a one-to-one basis.
I think the value of CD rom over books- and don't quote
me wrong - I love books they are cuddlier than the screen-
a CD rom allows you to 
1. digest at your own pace
2. follow your own path
3. re-trace the steps
this coupled with a personal tutor is our utlimate goal.

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At  0:48 PM 96.5.28 +0000, April Sampson-Kelly wrote:
>I have had to deal with the major criticism that 
>you can't teach something as practical as permaculture
>via Mail or net.
>AND YET 
>we have had the most incredible students
I have very limited information with respect to Permaculture here 
in Japan.  Therefore, I appreciate any CD-ROMs and publications on 
the Internet, which are the only updated resources for me.  In fact, 
I am working in Tokyo and am not presently able to practice 
Permaculture.  In that sense, I am a Permaculture illiterate person.
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Kenkichi Muramatsu (kmmura@gol.com, nexus@saitama-j.or.jp)
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Thank you, Lawrence for referring me to sanet-mg.  Could you please give me
the email address?

And a question for everyone, having to deal with cisterns.  Friends of ours
have a cistern about 10 years old that wasn't built very well.  It has
developed a crack and a solution they came up with was to line the inside of
it with a typical vinyl pool liner.  Is this a good idea?

Thank you!

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>we find that cd-rom is far outpacing web
>access, let alone fast web access, in many developing countries.

Not only their! I think even in the developed countries CD-ROM is still a
good solution. It is not the way to transport everything on demand! This
will be the dead of the internet. The storage of information will allways
be important (and internet-Computers have no future!)


>interactive spreadsheets and graphic exercises.  But I, for one, would
>love to see the video that I saw of Masanobu Fukuoka teaching people his
>natural farming method become available as soon as possible, and i only see
>that possible on a CD-ROM.

Yes, it's plus is that it need not to be PAL or NTSC, so one product fils
the need of the whole world.


> Likewise, i would love to get the courses
>given by Max Lindegger, Leah Harrison, and a host of others on video slices.

Yes,... and Bill Mollisons Videos,too.




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On Wed, 29 May 1996, Thilo Pfennig wrote:

>(and internet-Computers have no future!)

And that e-mail stuff will never catch on either... oops!

Rather than passing so final a judgement on a technology that has yet to 
be implemented, I suggest you repost the above message, oh, around the 
year 2000. It should make for some very interesting responses.

Regards,
That ol' kooky web head
Christopher M Robinson
The Humboldt Sustainable Community Project
The HumboldtNation <http://www.humnat.org>
admin@humnat.org

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Check out the The Vetiver Grass Network's new Web Page at: 
    http://www.vetiver.com

Vetiver is a tropical grass with an incredible number 
of uses relating to natural resources, construction and 
engineering, pollution control, and economic and cultural 
uses in agriculture & permaculture.  

It is most famous as a stiff grass barrier that forms a hedgerow 
against erosion on sloping lands.  However, extracts of
vetiver are made into aromatic oils, medicines, and natural
fungicides.  Biomass cuttings from vetiver are used as a
mulch and as a feedstock for making composts.  

The Vetiver Network (with Dick Grimshaw as Editor) has published 
a very fine hard copy newsletter on this plant for several years.  

The Vetiver Newsletter is one of the best newsletters on a single 
plant with multi-uses that I have seen.  Several back issues are now 
available on-line. 



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Dear Sirs,
Please send me information about your activity!
Sincerely: Istvan Sipos

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To all interested friends of the EcoAgroForrestry List, 

A friend (Jo-anne Vosloo) and myself (Sally Giebelmann) 
are both small self-sufficient, free range, organic farmers in the 
North West Province of South Africa near the small town of Brits.

We farm with egg laying & broiler chickens, ducks, geese, fish, 
rabbits, pigeons, pigs, meat & milk goats, vegetables,
earthworms, herbs and horses. Sally produces eggs, milk & meat,
for sale above home consumption, and processes excess goat milk
into yoghurt and cheese. Jo-anne produces meat on a minimal bought
feed system.

Between the two of us we practice communal farming even though 
we both have our own farms, and they are about 30km apart 
(approx 18 and a half miles). We do this by, amongst other 
things, sharing all information we have access to and knowledge 
gained from many years of farming. We are continually experimenting
with indigenous animals. With some animals we cross breed the
indigenous with an animal designed for an intensive system. The
result is a hardier, better end product for the consumer.

We barter animals, feed, equipment and labor. Goods which have
no use on one farm, that can be utilized on the other, are exchanged.
Just about anything is bartered between our two operations, including
notice of any special bargains to be had elsewhere as in stock
or feed etc. A running record is kept, as to what moves between us
and a cash value is allocated to each entry, although no money
actually changes hands.

>From using this communal system for the past two years, we have
been able to increase productivity, reduce the operating costs,
diversify the farming activities, thereby reduce risks involved
and have a far broader base of knowledge concerning feeding
animals, animal health, improved use of land and other natural
resources.

We efficiently use a variety of waste materials from various
sectors, business and farming to our advantage. We are now able
to enjoy a large variety of fresh food which is nutritious, and
yet cheaper than store bought. Roast duck or goat are commonly
enjoyed meals on our tables, we either would not be able to
afford these luxuries, or simply would not find them over the
average shop counter.

Jo-anne has written a book about animal husbandry which Sally is
in the process of illustrating, it is shortly to be published.
The subjects discussed concern raising animals in intensive
systems and the "free range" method. Other chapters detail feed
animal health, and topics relating to animal production and
vegetables.

In the future we will be publishing a magazine three
times a year concerning these particular subjects, animals,
vegetables and the processing and use of the products.

Sally opens her farm for school children to visit. The children
experience and learn about the wonders of farm animals.

We operate a small office for our own convenience, gathering
information by telephone, fax and computer, while communicating
with small and large farmers worldwide, also other professional
or practicing people and organizations at all levels. Where ever
possible, we are also willing to exchange information.

Jo-anne and I have submitted a proposal to our local government
in the hopes of receiving some funding towards a project of ours.
As yet we have not registered a non profit business / trust, 
as this can only be done once funding is available. 
We have named our project:

                     SHE Community Systems. 
    Self-sufficient Healthy and Educational Communal Farming.

The proposal is for the development and training of our people
living in disadvantaged communities in the North West Province.
Jo-anne and myself would like to offer our services as consultants,
and train the communities to become as self-sufficient 
and sustainable as possible within their individual needs, values, 
traditional cultures and skills. We would also encourage community 
farming, and be available as an information service to our area,
once the communities are self-reliant.

With the implementation of this scheme, we will not only be
teaching the people to feed themselves, but will be encouraging
those with initiative to become more innovative and creative
in their attitude and approach to ecological self-suffiency and 
later on possibly develop a more commercial farming operation
while still retaining the ecologically sound background we promote.

This change will not occur overnight, but after laying a stable
foundation, an improvement will be seen at various levels
over a period of time.

Jo-anne and I believe that in this manner we will be addressing
the need to feed our people, keep them healthier, create
more job opportunities and stimulate the communities economy and
spirit, interaction, education and dialog.

We would like to stay in contact with all of you on the EAF list, 
as i'm sure you could offer us very valuable advise, and possibly 
some exchange. Could any one put us into contact with other 
like minded  practical people or organizations in South Africa or 
Africa in particular, that would be beneficial to both parties?
If you have the same interests, please feel free to 
contact us, no matter which country you live in. 
 
Has any one out there an idea of possible funding, sponsorship / 
donations and / or equipment we could get from elsewhere, once 
SHE Community Systems has been registered?

Thankyou in advance for taking up your time, and any
knowledge you are able to pass on to us.

Kind Regards    Sally        and        Jo-anne.

Postal Address: Zenzele Farm     Or     Jo-Jo's Place
                P.O. Box 2117           P.O. Box 2798
                Randburg                Brits
                2125                    0252
                South Africa.           South Africa.
Telephone:      +27 1211 502 899        +27 1211 540 454
Cell phone:     082 448 9505
Fax:            +27 1211 502 517         
E-mail:         jens@icon.co.za
-------------------------------------
Sally and Jens-Birger Giebelmann
E-mail: jens@icon.co.za
Date: 05/22/96
Time: 18:50:10
This message was sent by Zenzele Farm
Brits, NWP, South Africa
Tel.: +27 1211 502899
Fax.: +27 1211 502517 
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:
Lawrence F. London, Jr., Venaura Farm, Chapel Hill, NC USA 
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Organic Gardening & Farming, CSA, Permaculture & Renewable Energy Information
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Subject: Long-Interested South African. 

To all interested friends of the EcoAgroForrestry List, 

A friend (Jo-anne Vosloo) and myself (Sally Giebelmann) 
are both small self-sufficient, free range, organic farmers in the 
North West Province of South Africa near the small town of Brits.

We farm with egg laying & broiler chickens, ducks, geese, fish, 
rabbits, pigeons, pigs, meat & milk goats, vegetables,
earthworms, herbs and horses. Sally produces eggs, milk & meat,
for sale above home consumption, and processes excess goat milk
into yoghurt and cheese. Jo-anne produces meat on a minimal bought
feed system.

Between the two of us we practice communal farming even though 
we both have our own farms, and they are about 30km apart 
(approx 18 and a half miles). We do this by, amongst other 
things, sharing all information we have access to and knowledge 
gained from many years of farming. We are continually experimenting
with indigenous animals. With some animals we cross breed the
indigenous with an animal designed for an intensive system. The
result is a hardier, better end product for the consumer.

We barter animals, feed, equipment and labor. Goods which have
no use on one farm, that can be utilized on the other, are exchanged.
Just about anything is bartered between our two operations, including
notice of any special bargains to be had elsewhere as in stock
or feed etc. A running record is kept, as to what moves between us
and a cash value is allocated to each entry, although no money
actually changes hands.

>From using this communal system for the past two years, we have
been able to increase productivity, reduce the operating costs,
diversify the farming activities, thereby reduce risks involved
and have a far broader base of knowledge concerning feeding
animals, animal health, improved use of land and other natural
resources.

We efficiently use a variety of waste materials from various
sectors, business and farming to our advantage. We are now able
to enjoy a large variety of fresh food which is nutritious, and
yet cheaper than store bought. Roast duck or goat are commonly
enjoyed meals on our tables, we either would not be able to
afford these luxuries, or simply would not find them over the
average shop counter.

Jo-anne has written a book about animal husbandry which Sally is
in the process of illustrating, it is shortly to be published.
The subjects discussed concern raising animals in intensive
systems and the "free range" method. Other chapters detail feed
animal health, and topics relating to animal production and
vegetables.

In the future we will be publishing a magazine three
times a year concerning these particular subjects, animals,
vegetables and the processing and use of the products.

Sally opens her farm for school children to visit. The children
experience and learn about the wonders of farm animals.

We operate a small office for our own convenience, gathering
information by telephone, fax and computer, while communicating
with small and large farmers worldwide, also other professional
or practicing people and organizations at all levels. Where ever
possible, we are also willing to exchange information.

Jo-anne and I have submitted a proposal to our local government
in the hopes of receiving some funding towards a project of ours.
As yet we have not registered a non profit business / trust, 
as this can only be done once funding is available. 
We have named our project:

                     SHE Community Systems. 
    Self-sufficient Healthy and Educational Communal Farming.

The proposal is for the development and training of our people
living in disadvantaged communities in the North West Province.
Jo-anne and myself would like to offer our services as consultants,
and train the communities to become as self-sufficient 
and sustainable as possible within their individual needs, values, 
traditional cultures and skills. We would also encourage community 
farming, and be available as an information service to our area,
once the communities are self-reliant.

With the implementation of this scheme, we will not only be
teaching the people to feed themselves, but will be encouraging
those with initiative to become more innovative and creative
in their attitude and approach to ecological self-suffiency and 
later on possibly develop a more commercial farming operation
while still retaining the ecologically sound background we promote.

This change will not occur overnight, but after laying a stable
foundation, an improvement will be seen at various levels
over a period of time.

Jo-anne and I believe that in this manner we will be addressing
the need to feed our people, keep them healthier, create
more job opportunities and stimulate the communities economy and
spirit, interaction, education and dialog.

We would like to stay in contact with all of you on the EAF list, 
as i'm sure you could offer us very valuable advise, and possibly 
some exchange. Could any one put us into contact with other 
like minded  practical people or organizations in South Africa or 
Africa in particular, that would be beneficial to both parties?
If you have the same interests, please feel free to 
contact us, no matter which country you live in. 
 
Has any one out there an idea of possible funding, sponsorship / 
donations and / or equipment we could get from elsewhere, once 
SHE Community Systems has been registered?

Thankyou in advance for taking up your time, and any
knowledge you are able to pass on to us.

Kind Regards    Sally        and        Jo-anne.

Postal Address: Zenzele Farm     Or     Jo-Jo's Place
                P.O. Box 2117           P.O. Box 2798
                Randburg                Brits
                2125                    0252
                South Africa.           South Africa.
Telephone:      +27 1211 502 899        +27 1211 540 454
Cell phone:     082 448 9505
Fax:            +27 1211 502 517         
E-mail:         jens@icon.co.za
-------------------------------------
Sally and Jens-Birger Giebelmann
E-mail: jens@icon.co.za
Date: 05/22/96
Time: 18:50:10
This message was sent by Zenzele Farm
Brits, NWP, South Africa
Tel.: +27 1211 502899
Fax.: +27 1211 502517 
-------------------------------------





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I own a suburban house with my sister and we are recent converts to
permaculture. I have a few specific questions which I'd love for anyone with
experience or advice to respond to,privately or publicly.

        I want to create a water cycling system in an urban garden with
components
like - a sump/tank receiving input from rain and greywater - a filtering
reed bed - ponds/streams (with fish, edible plants, marron(freshwater
crayfish)). Ideally the system would run with a single alternative energy
driven pump.  Challenging climate - nearly all rain in winter, very dry
summer so big annual cycle in water quantity.  (See
http://www.reading.ac.uk:80/~suqstmbl/river/river.html for original
inspiration).

        We have some rabbits and intend to get some chickens. I'd like to
build a permanent, wire-covered pen for the rabbits and a house for the
chickens both connected to 3 pens in our orchard for rotating use.Any
practical hints or personal experiences?

        Also I'd like to grow a rose hedge at the front for privacy/security
and don't know about what type of roses would suit this.

        Finally, our front verge has a height limit of 3 feet so we thought
about some low growing natives, perhaps on bark chips.

        Thanks for any responses, I hope you don't mind the specificness of
the queries but when you dfcide to actually do something the questions
become very specific indeed.

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From: BRateaver@aol.com
Subject: Re: Long-Interested South African. (fwd)

One person you should know about is Pauline Raphaely, POBox 41250, Craighall,
ZA-2024 Johannesburg, Tel.+27-11-4427642
She teaches poor people how to have an organic garden, grown on a plot just
the  size of an ordinary door.  Her work has spread to teaching community
leaders.  Her Food Gardens Foundation is a member of IFOAM.

You should probably subscribe to the IFOAM publication: Ecology and Farming,
23 Bath Bldgs, Montpelier,  Bristol BS6 5PT. US$30, Briths pound 18, DM 48,
French franc 180.


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From: BRateaver@aol.com
Subject: Re: Long-Interested South African. (fwd)

One person you should know about is Pauline Raphaely, POBox 41250, Craighall,
ZA-2024 Johannesburg, Tel.+27-11-4427642
She teaches poor people how to have an organic garden, grown on a plot just
the  size of an ordinary door.  Her work has spread to teaching community
leaders.  Her Food Gardens Foundation is a member of IFOAM.

You should probably subscribe to the IFOAM publication: Ecology and Farming,
23 Bath Bldgs, Montpelier,  Bristol BS6 5PT. US$30, Briths pound 18, DM 48,
French franc 180.


From almanac-request@amani.ces.ncsu.edu  Mon Jun 10 05:46:46 1996
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Subscribe permaculture-mg.
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Hi!
Has anyone heard about the pc-book"a designer`s manual"being transfered into
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