Rachel Friefelder asked about permie places in california and orgeon. Try: Island Mountain Institute, Garberville, California (707) 923-4301 Penny Livingston, Point Reyes, California (415) 663-9139 Sandy Bar Ranch, Orleans, California (916) 627-3379 Permaculture events, courses, and gatherings are held at these places regularly. catherine yronwode -