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Project Apollo - NASSP => News & Announcements => Topic started by: Tschachim on March 06, 2007, 10:38:37 AM



Title: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on March 06, 2007, 10:38:37 AM
Hi Apollo fans,

a new beta modules pack is available here: http://nassp.sf.net/wiki/Installation (http://nassp.sf.net/wiki/Installation). Please make sure that Orbiter 2006-P1 is installed. Also please make sure that you do a CVS Update of all directories, that means the Config, Doc, Meshes, Orbitersdk, Scenarios, Sound and Textures directories.

Major new features is the Saturn V assembly & rollout for the new VAB and some enhancements of the Crawler Transporter. Links to the checklists for that are on the  Apollo 11 mission page (http://nassp.sf.net/wiki/Apollo_11#Standard_mode). Thanks to Orbiterfan for this cool feature and the great meshes.  :ThumbsUp432:

Have fun, comments and questions are always welcome! :)

Cheers
Tschachim


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: apolloman on March 06, 2007, 05:57:10 PM
I have just tested.. splendid :ThumbsUp432: :ThumbsUp432: . . but just a small flat:

- when the last stage of bay of preparation is closed again (after the installation of LES, that made odd because it includes also the arm of accés of LUT. but without its passage would not be to model

(sorry for my poor English)

Best Regards


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on March 07, 2007, 08:28:20 AM
Thanks for your kind words!  :)

Do you mean the upper assembly platform brakes through the CM access arm? Yes, the real platform has a cut-out for that, which is missing in our model. You can see it in the upper right corner of the picture below. Only a minor bug in my point of view, but perhaps Orbiterfan is going to fix that in a future version.

(http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/69-HC-440.jpg)

Cheers
Tschachim


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: orbiterfan on March 07, 2007, 04:15:30 PM
New VAB_exterior.msh file committed. Updated HB1 left work platform 5 with the Crew Access Arm cut-out. No other changes.


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: FordPrefect on March 07, 2007, 06:33:59 PM
I was playing a bit with the Rollout scenario. Great work Tschachim and Orbiterfan  :ThumbsUp432:

Does anybody know with what average speed the crawler moved to the launch pad with the Saturn V (1/2 mile per hour?). I really like this Rollout feature. It looks so impressive to watch the Saturn and LUT move by slowly from a close to ground level viewpoint near the crawlerway looking up. You get a good impression for its size. Not to mention the new VAB as well! Very nice work guys!


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: orbiterfan on March 07, 2007, 06:46:44 PM
Does anybody know with what average speed the crawler moved to the launch pad with the Saturn V (1/2 mile per hour?).
Average speed is about 0.8 mph. Lately some of the bearings in the four droive trucks have been running a little bit hot when the Crawler was at 1 mph. Hot enough to force a stop and relubrication and cooldown of the bearings. So for now they have limited the speed to about 0.8 mph.


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on March 08, 2007, 02:55:19 PM
New VAB_exterior.msh file committed. Updated HB1 left work platform 5 with the Crew Access Arm cut-out. No other changes.

Thanks! I forgot to mention that I had adjusted the pedestrals already a little bit, I just re-did that and committed VAB_exterior.msh again. I also adjusted the cut-out a little bit (but no chance that I can do that by myself, many thanks!) My fault, of course, but it would be great if you re-import the CVS msh file before you're going to change something next time. :)

Cheers
Tschachim



Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: FordPrefect on March 10, 2007, 04:39:16 PM
Thanks Orbiterfan for the info.

Is it correct that the Rollout (scenario) currently is not supported by the meshland module? If I activate meshland module the crawler still keeps going through the launch pad and, the VAB exterior mesh and the MSS mesh start floating up like balloons?! Any ideas? Still, thank you for all the work!


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on March 10, 2007, 06:35:07 PM
The rollout does support Meshland, are you sure you installed the latest Meshland pack? 

Cheers
Tschachim


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: FordPrefect on March 11, 2007, 09:08:08 AM
Thanks Tschachim, now it works! I had an even later meshland version than the one included in Project Apollo.  :)


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on March 11, 2007, 11:44:05 AM
That's good to know! The Meshland version we're using is a bit outdated, we're going to take a look at later versions probably when we work more on the LM again.

Cheers
Tschachim 


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Odyssey on April 29, 2007, 02:10:07 PM
Hi there. Really want to upgrade from the Nassp 6.4 BETA.

How do I obtain this new beta and what the hell does CVS Update mean? Also, I don't have interent access on the computer that I use Orbiter for. Is this a problem?

Thanks


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on April 29, 2007, 02:16:19 PM
Same question, same answer:  :wink:
http://www.ibiblio.org/mscorbit/mscforum/index.php?topic=1136.msg10775#msg10775


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Odyssey on April 30, 2007, 06:59:58 AM
Okay. Sorry for the continuous questioning  :Duh!39835:

Erm... Would I be correct in thinking that at the moment, you can only do the parts of the mission that are mentioned in the checklists on the apollo 11 mission page? Can you not actually fly to the moon and back? Also, can you switch between using Nassp 6.4 and 7.0? So far I have saved a copy of the 6.4 folder on my hard drive so is there a better way of switching between the two without having to replace all the folders each time?

Thanks
Od :wink:


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on April 30, 2007, 07:51:05 AM
Erm... Would I be correct in thinking that at the moment, you can only do the parts of the mission that are mentioned in the checklists on the apollo 11 mission page? Can you not actually fly to the moon and back?

Well, with yesterday's beta modules (20070429) I'm quite sure that you can land on the moon in Standard and Quickstart Mode (not Virtual AGC mode), but it's very hard to find out how to do, especially how to activate the LM. The Apollo 11 mission article (http://nassp.sourceforge.net/wiki/Apollo_11) lists all reasonable documented mission phases, so yes, currently there's no easy and well documented way to fly to the moon and back.

Also, can you switch between using Nassp 6.4 and 7.0? So far I have saved a copy of the 6.4 folder on my hard drive so is there a better way of switching between the two without having to replace all the folders each time?

Two Orbiter installations?

Cheers
Tschachim


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: movieman on April 30, 2007, 08:35:44 AM
In theory you can have 6.4 and 7.0 installed at the same time, since the 7.0 files all go in subdirectories.


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on April 30, 2007, 08:40:37 AM
Yes, but the scenarios go to the same folder, which is at least confusing, and the sound files overwrite each other, which will confuse CVS a lot...

Cheers
Tschachim


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: movieman on April 30, 2007, 08:57:39 AM
Are you sure? I thought everything got renamed.


Title: Re: New Project Apollo Beta 20070306 released
Post by: Tschachim on April 30, 2007, 10:05:14 AM
Yes, the scenarios were already in the "Scenarios\Project Apollo - NASSP" directory. There are no conflicts, it's just the user could be confused by that. Also the sounds were already in the "Sounds\ProjectApollo" directory since the 6.3.0.

Cheers
Tschachim