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« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2010, 12:32:49 PM »

Thank you, but that doesn't work, but it sounds logical. I can't get them activated...

I can't find the documentation for the SM RCS...
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« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2010, 10:25:08 AM »

Yes, the RCS articles are still work-in-progress...  Embarassed
http://nassp.sourceforge.net/wiki/CSM_RCS

Other than the secondary propellant valves, the RCS thrusters might be too cold. If you post/attach a scenario, I'll take a look.

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« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2010, 08:00:30 AM »

Tschachim: Thanks for your help in advance, I attached the scenario, at the point where everything seems to be alright...before LOI  Ashamed




* Apollo 14 Quickstart - Launch 0002 0003 0002 0002.scn (69.05 KB - downloaded 259 times.)
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« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2010, 07:10:09 AM »

Thanks for the scenario, but I need one saved shortly after the RCS has failed, so I can check the root cause.

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« Reply #79 on: October 12, 2010, 02:11:42 PM »

Tschachim,

Forgive me if this was posted a dozen times but can we use the Apollo 14 quickstart mission and land on the moon, take off and come back to earth successfully?  I understand if the scenario's themselves are broken, but we can still fly the spacecraft and use all of the controls/buttons in the CSM/LM, correct?
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« Reply #80 on: October 12, 2010, 04:27:52 PM »

Yes it can be done! but you should wait until it is fixed.Lots of work is being done on the Lem,just be patent! Thumbs Up
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« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2010, 12:09:05 PM »

Ok thanks.  One more question.  I was having a ton of trouble trying to do the transposition and docking.  I spent 2 hours just trying to lineup and use my thrusters correctly and I kept messing up.  Is there a better method to docking to where I'm not pulling my hair out?
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« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2010, 12:31:07 PM »

joejccva71: Not really realistic but when you will separate the SM from the SIVB/LM-Stack and only fire up your thruster backwards (you will crash into it, don't turn the ship, simply num+9) when your SM is completely in the stage you will dock.

Tschachim: I have attached my scenario... ;-) Thanks a lot! Thumbs Up


* Apollo 14 Quickstart - Launch 0002 0003 0002 0003.scn (69.11 KB - downloaded 256 times.)
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« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2010, 06:21:13 AM »

I don't know why but I finally managed to get POST-LOI with the Apollo 11 - Quickstart Scenario. The LM don't want to get powered up, but I know that there is a lot of work to do...

I will now throw my LM to the moon, and try to get back to Earth.  Excited!
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« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2010, 05:16:29 PM »

Tschachim: I have attached my scenario... ;-) Thanks a lot! Thumbs Up
Thanks, but the RCS is still working fine in the new scenario?  Confused
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« Reply #85 on: October 15, 2010, 06:59:08 AM »

? Sorry, but get a Master Caution when i load that scenario....

In the first scenario I posted the only thing to do is entering the LOI-Program in the DSKY and waiting for the insertion burn and after a bit of time I get four SM RCS cautions on the C/W board.
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« Reply #86 on: October 15, 2010, 09:36:35 AM »

? Sorry, but get a Master Caution when i load that scenario....

...and the Master Alarm was already there when you saved the scenario? According to the scenario there was no alarm and no C/W light lit when the scenario was saved:

CWS_BEGIN
  LASTO2FLOWCHECKHIGH 0
  NEXTO2FLOWCHECKTIME 974.426265773046
  MODE 0
  TEST 0
  STATE 1 -> The 1 means the Master Alarm light isn't disabled, i.e. you're not in Boost Mode
  LLIGHTS 0
  RLIGHTS 0

CWS_END

I'll try to do a LOI with either of the scenarios, perhaps I can reproduce the problem this way...

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Done, unfortunately I still can't reproduce the problem. I started the 2nd scenario, Apollo 14 Quickstart - Launch 0002 0003 0002 0003.scn (again no alarms) and did:

SIG COND/DRIVER BIAS POWER - AC1, AC2
SC CONT - CMC
dV THRUST A - NORMAL
DSKY: RSET
         V37E 16E

and an hour later I was in lunar orbit, scenario is attached. I'm puzzled, can someone else reproduce the problem?

* RCS Problem 0001.scn (68.21 KB - downloaded 264 times.)
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« Reply #87 on: December 07, 2010, 01:17:39 AM »

Hi. I'm still wondering when is NASSP 7.0 going to have a stable release rather than a beta release? I think the development process is taking way too long and other addons already worked faster than NASSP, such as AMSO. I think releasing the stable release would reduce the fears like LM not working, launch failures, etc.

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« Reply #88 on: December 07, 2010, 08:41:32 AM »

Of course other addons are faster, they're not anywhere near as complex and detailed as our project. We've been moving at a speed comparable to that of NASA when developing the original equipment, which is about right considering that the majority of our work is documentation archaeology and reverse-engineering rather than just banging out code. No offense to the AMSO guys, but all AMSO has to do is look like Apollo and fly roughly like Apollo. Ours has to be correct in all aspects possible. We're using original software and procedures and building the ship around them. AMSO doesn't have to do any of that at all, they can just make their own stuff up as they go. It's a world apart.

If you think it's taking too long you are more than welcome to throw your hat into the ring and help us out rather than just gripe about it.
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« Reply #89 on: December 07, 2010, 08:02:54 PM »

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