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FordPrefect
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« on: December 26, 2007, 12:57:39 PM »

Hi everyone and Merry Christmas to you all!

I figured our current external 3d model of the Lunar Module, especially the Ascent Stage seriously lacks in accuracy and detail and therefore decided to build a complete new Ascent Stage model from scratch. I will do this independently of Rodions work as I plan to do a new descent stage as well at a later point. Unlike Rodion, I am targeting for a nicely detailed but low polygon, frame-rate friendly external model of the Lunar Module right from the beginning, with authentic dimensions as close as possible to the real thing. You know, we have to keep up with AMSO's model quality. Actually, I try to do it better.  Happy

The new ascent stage model of course will include a virtual cockpit. At first the VC will be eye-candy only, the funcionality may be integrated at a later point by one of you clever coders. I plan to release the Ascent Stage first, then resume modeling a new Descent Stage model.

There is a lot of new stuff in the modeling compartment for me to learn and I can't predict my time available to work on this project in the future but I plan to finish the ascent stage within the next six months. I get my drive to resume work on it each time I fly the LM in NASSP when I realize how bad our Ascent stage looks. We seriously need new shiny models!

By the way, it's great to see so much progress here, you are all doing a great job here!



A small glimpse showing the current wireframe of the Ascent Stage mid-section, revealing the aft cabin compartment:




Best wishes to you all!

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« Last Edit: March 09, 2008, 04:03:15 PM by FordPrefect » Logged

My Project Apollo work in progress:
* New detailed Lunar Module Ascent stage with virtual cockpit (VC currently planned as eye candy only) 18 % done

My Project Apollo work to be continued:
* new Service Module SPS engine bell
* various Saturn V textures, exhaust textures
* SIM Bay for the SM


My long-term plans are to create a:
* New detailed Lunar Module descent stage (eventually models of all flown LM's)
* New F-1 engines for the S-1C stage showing the foil (batting) insulation
* New LUT and launch pad (if nobody else does it)
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 01:56:20 PM »

That's really great news Happy

The LM model always annoys me a little bit. It's really great that you decided to work on it Thumbs Up Do you plan to use our 2D instrument panels for the virtual cabin?
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 08:22:58 PM »

Of course I will use your fantastic panel bitmaps wherever possible in the VC. Would be a shame not to do so...  Wink

Little update, I was able to add the Rear Section:




Next is adding/modelling the RCS quads, the front section and a lot more smaller details.
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My Project Apollo work in progress:
* New detailed Lunar Module Ascent stage with virtual cockpit (VC currently planned as eye candy only) 18 % done

My Project Apollo work to be continued:
* new Service Module SPS engine bell
* various Saturn V textures, exhaust textures
* SIM Bay for the SM


My long-term plans are to create a:
* New detailed Lunar Module descent stage (eventually models of all flown LM's)
* New F-1 engines for the S-1C stage showing the foil (batting) insulation
* New LUT and launch pad (if nobody else does it)
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2007, 08:35:14 PM »

Of course I will use your fantastic panel bitmaps wherever possible in the VC. Would be a shame not to do so...  Wink
 

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I'm going to improve them a little bit. I found a few high res bitmaps some weeks ago. So, we'll see the real LEM switches and rotaries on our panels soon... Wink

Little update, I was able to add the Rear Section:




Next is adding/modelling the RCS quads, the front section and a lot more smaller details.

Keep going Thumbs Up I wish I could do such 3D artwork. My brain just allows 2D Very Happy

By the way, do you think about including all the different LEM versions in Project Apollo?
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2007, 08:42:34 PM »

Wow, fantastic work FordPrefect! I'm really looking forward to the finished LEM, keep up the good work. Thumbs Up
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2007, 09:04:18 PM »

By the way, do you think about including all the different LEM versions in Project Apollo?

Eventually yes, both the H- and J-Series versions including the LEM's of Apollo 9 and 10, however this will take some time. Due to my serious Apollo 17 illness, I plan to model LM12 "Challenger" first. Deriving all other (previous) LEM versions from that one shouldn't be too difficult. If time in the future permits, I will try to model a new LRV as well, I'll see.

Looking forward to your new LM panel bitmaps, Moonwalker!  Thumbs Up

Thanks for the encouragement!
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My Project Apollo work in progress:
* New detailed Lunar Module Ascent stage with virtual cockpit (VC currently planned as eye candy only) 18 % done

My Project Apollo work to be continued:
* new Service Module SPS engine bell
* various Saturn V textures, exhaust textures
* SIM Bay for the SM


My long-term plans are to create a:
* New detailed Lunar Module descent stage (eventually models of all flown LM's)
* New F-1 engines for the S-1C stage showing the foil (batting) insulation
* New LUT and launch pad (if nobody else does it)
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2007, 09:23:49 PM »

Oh, seems there is another person with a serious Apollo 17 illness Very Happy

In my point of view this mission was the highlight of the Apollo Program, and ironically the end too, sadly. Taurus Littrow and Hadley Apennine were the most exciting places I think. So, can't wait for Challenger (and Falcon too)...
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 12:05:18 PM »

Hi FordPerfect,

yeah, that's really great, we desperately need a new LM, please keep it up!  Thumbs Up Happy

Cheers
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 12:41:22 PM »

Great news.

If you like a link for the NASA Apollo Lunar Module News Reference
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/sudoc/image_30000061709352/30000061709352/pdf/techdata.htm#lunar
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2007, 02:37:19 PM »

Great work, Fordperfect!
Thanks for all your efforts.
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2008, 08:24:32 AM »

Sorry for the late reply, thanks Coussini for pointing out the NASA Apollo Lunar Module News Reference, lots of interesting info there. Am I right to understand that the LEM ascent engine was installed being tilted out of the x-Axis by 1.5 into the +Z axis, so it is actually slightly pointing forward (+Z)?



I know this is a more rhetorical question, I always thought it was tilted backwards...
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My Project Apollo work in progress:
* New detailed Lunar Module Ascent stage with virtual cockpit (VC currently planned as eye candy only) 18 % done

My Project Apollo work to be continued:
* new Service Module SPS engine bell
* various Saturn V textures, exhaust textures
* SIM Bay for the SM


My long-term plans are to create a:
* New detailed Lunar Module descent stage (eventually models of all flown LM's)
* New F-1 engines for the S-1C stage showing the foil (batting) insulation
* New LUT and launch pad (if nobody else does it)
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2008, 07:18:53 PM »

Not really a big result after 4.5 hours of modeling, though I'm getting used to it.  What?  Started working on the forward section:





Cheers,
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My Project Apollo work in progress:
* New detailed Lunar Module Ascent stage with virtual cockpit (VC currently planned as eye candy only) 18 % done

My Project Apollo work to be continued:
* new Service Module SPS engine bell
* various Saturn V textures, exhaust textures
* SIM Bay for the SM


My long-term plans are to create a:
* New detailed Lunar Module descent stage (eventually models of all flown LM's)
* New F-1 engines for the S-1C stage showing the foil (batting) insulation
* New LUT and launch pad (if nobody else does it)
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2008, 06:23:47 AM »

Looks very nice!

Please keep up the great work!
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 01:24:22 PM »

Looks very nice!

Please keep up the great work!

Thanks! You bet, Zach. I am currently waiting to receive some detailed info I need to continue. My plan is to create a very accurate yet framerate friendly LEM model. I think I've put the bar concerning mesh quality pretty high for me and I like it that way. This will require more time for development, but I know the result will be worth it. As I said earlier, we have incredibly highly realistic simulated systems in NASSP, developed by our talented coders and Apollo nuts, so this Project needs and deserves meshes with the same level of accuracy, as close to the real thing as possible.
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My Project Apollo work in progress:
* New detailed Lunar Module Ascent stage with virtual cockpit (VC currently planned as eye candy only) 18 % done

My Project Apollo work to be continued:
* new Service Module SPS engine bell
* various Saturn V textures, exhaust textures
* SIM Bay for the SM


My long-term plans are to create a:
* New detailed Lunar Module descent stage (eventually models of all flown LM's)
* New F-1 engines for the S-1C stage showing the foil (batting) insulation
* New LUT and launch pad (if nobody else does it)
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2008, 11:40:50 AM »

Yes great work!  Thumbs Up

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