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« on: May 10, 2008, 01:23:01 PM »

Hi Apollo experts,

it looks like that our SLA panels are 45° off the correct position, the hinge points aren't at the spacecraft Y/Z/-Y/-Z axes but "in between", 45° off. I'm going to fix that, but since I'm not 100% sure (only 99%  Wink), it would be great if someone of the experts around here can confirm or deny this bug.

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2008, 01:48:36 PM »

Its hard to tell orientation from the first photo, but I looked at it in-sim and I would say they are indeed twisted 45 degrees off...



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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2008, 01:53:48 PM »

Yes, it's really hard to tell, probably because of this nobody noticed it before.
Thanks for the confirmation and the pics!

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2008, 06:01:53 PM »

Looks good already to me! Notice the panels are lined up with the cross braces?



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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2008, 06:45:33 PM »

Yes, but I rotated the cross brakes to this position a year or so ago when we introduced the hinged (i.e. not separating) panels for Apollo 7, they were correct before (w.r.t. the S-IVB)...

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 05:13:19 AM »

Yes, but I rotated the cross brakes to this position a year or so ago when we introduced the hinged (i.e. not separating) panels for Apollo 7, they were correct before (w.r.t. the S-IVB)...

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Ah yes! It appears the upper hinge in the shot above should be 'rotated' to be roughly in line with the U S A lettering.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 05:01:14 PM »

I fixed that for the hinged Saturn 1B SLA panels, the Saturn V and the case of separating Saturn 1B panels (Skylab? ASTP?) still needs to be fixed. I added some textures, too.

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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 01:20:04 AM »

oh snap that looks good!   Cool


But I get a slight feeling that that is the "best" its gonna look because the lighting angle matches the textures, am I right?  (I'd be happy to hear I'm wrong)
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CM Visual
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Propulsion Particle Improvements (Focused on S1B right now, BETA 1.0 has been commited)
New Docking Method (~50% complete: research complete; coding partially completed, testing not underway)

Future Work:  (if it's here, it's deemed unnecessary to upcoming release)

Older Work:  (if it's here, it's fair game to whoever wants to improve)
EMS Implementation (committed: minor flaws, but groundwork is there, needs extensive testing)
EMS scrolls (committed: not refined, but usable)
SM Visual (committed: mesh-finished, texture-60%; possibly revisited in future)
J2 Texture (commited: room for improvement)
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 04:03:51 AM »

But I get a slight feeling that that is the "best" its gonna look because the lighting angle matches the textures, am I right?  (I'd be happy to hear I'm wrong)

I'm not sure if you're right, the textures should be quite uniformly "illuminated" (unlike the real one, which extensively casts shadows on itself), but probably it's the best if you just do a CVS Update (Meshes, Textures, Orbitersdk) and look by yourself...  Happy

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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 08:38:02 AM »

I just fired up the vAGC Apollo 7 Luanch scenario and saw probles with the SLA panels.  It looks like the msh positions were rotated 45deg but the msh's themselves stayed in their old orientation. (see attached screenshot)


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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 08:40:57 AM »

Yes, you need to rebuild (i.e. compile) the modules in order to have that working correctly.

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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 08:54:19 AM »

I don't have a compiler.  Is there a new modules pack coming out soon? Happy
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 09:07:46 AM »

Not really planned since I hoped we're getting a Checklist MFD capable of highlighting the next-to-toggled switch before that, but given the recent divergences between the meshes and the modules I'll see what I can do...  Happy

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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008, 02:18:20 PM »

Yes, a new modules pack would be great Thumbs Up

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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2008, 08:55:09 AM »

We have a functional checklist MFD right now.  It does highlight and such.  It just doesn't do anything with the dsky, nor does it allow users to review checklists independantly of main operation.
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