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Quetalsi
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Reply #105 on:
February 23, 2006, 06:02:33 PM »
Hi, I updated CVS with this changes:
1.- The C&W system now also control overvoltage ( ac > 130 volts).
2.- The lights AC BUS 1/2 and AC BUS 1/2 OVERLOAD turn on and inverter is disconnected like it indicates systems handbook
Voltages does not change and to prove this it is necessary to change, for example the voltage of inverter to see as it works.
Greetings
Quetalsi
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Tschachim
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Reply #106 on:
February 27, 2006, 09:56:08 AM »
Looks like I requested a pretty useless feature because we never have overvoltage. Sorry, at first I thought the inverter gets disconnected by undervoltage, too. But anyway thanks for fixing, the EPS gets better and better!
Cheers
Tschachim
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Quetalsi
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Reply #107 on:
February 27, 2006, 07:21:57 PM »
Hello,
CVS updated with changes:
1.- DC Main Bus A & B Switches and respectives talkbacks now woks.
2.- Thats switches are wired, so the three fuelcells are connected to dcbus.
Tomorrow I´ll update the CWS system to work with the RESET switches.
One problem. When only one fuelcell are connected to the system, the master alarm light on with no light in the CWS panel. It seems to be related with the IMU. It is a problem to study.
Greetings
Quetalsi
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Swatch
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Reply #108 on:
February 28, 2006, 12:56:28 AM »
Hi guys...I know this thread is a little bit off the beaten path for me...but I just wanted to remind you guys about the missing LV TANK PRESS indicators on Panel 1. These seem kinda important for the next release, and since you've successfully implimented the RCS and SPS guages on Panels 2 and 3, I'd think that they'd be fairly easy to tie in.
Also, I'll start working on a new LES/BPC with windows mesh since I corrected the current one to fit over the CM.
Last but not least, I was wondering what the off-color squares are that are spaced around the main panel. They almost look like a graphics glitch....or maybe they're supposed to be velco squares, I dont know...but they're buggin me. :lol:
~Swatch
PS. Does anyone know where I can find a good method to learn how to texture the mesh, since the current mesh has a lot of extra poly's that basically act like 3D, overdone textures.
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My Project Apollo Work:
CM Visual
-VC (~75% complete: texture work beginning again; mesh-78%; texture-70%)
Propulsion Particle Improvements (Focused on S1B right now, BETA 1.0 has been commited)
New Docking Method (~50% complete: research complete; coding partially completed, testing not underway)
Future Work: (if it's here, it's deemed unnecessary to upcoming release)
Older Work: (if it's here, it's fair game to whoever wants to improve)
EMS Implementation (committed: minor flaws, but groundwork is there, needs extensive testing)
EMS scrolls (committed: not refined, but usable)
SM Visual (committed: mesh-finished, texture-60%; possibly revisited in future)
J2 Texture (commited: room for improvement)
LRV (committed: mesh-finished, texture-90%; in future a ground up rebuild may be in order, but not on my plans)
Tschachim
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Reply #109 on:
February 28, 2006, 10:11:38 AM »
Hi Quetalsi,
thanks for beginning with the FC/DC BUS switches, this is an important feature!
I noticed that saving/loading is not working yet, the switches and indicators states are fine, but the power distribution is not saved. Just an idea: Perhaps it's easier to use the ThreeSourceSwitch for the fuel cell/bus switches. ...And it looks like the center positions have some "special behavior" related to the C/W system?
Hi Swatch,
Quote from: Swatch
Hi guys...I know this thread is a little bit off the beaten path for me...but I just wanted to remind you guys about the missing LV TANK PRESS indicators on Panel 1.
That's right, we'll do that. Radu is working on a new version of the SPSDK, perhaps we'll wait until this is finished.
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Last but not least, I was wondering what the off-color squares are that are spaced around the main panel. They almost look like a graphics glitch....or maybe they're supposed to be velco squares, I dont know...but they're buggin me. :lol:
They are velcro squares, looks like you should get used to them...
Cheers
Tschachim
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Quetalsi
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Reply #110 on:
February 28, 2006, 12:45:45 PM »
Thanks Tschachim, you are right. I´m going to review it.
Greetings
Quetalsi.
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FordPrefect
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Reply #111 on:
February 28, 2006, 02:50:36 PM »
Quote from: Tschachim
They are velcro squares, looks like you should get used to them...
yeah, and in the far future, I hope we will be able to attach mission dependent checklists to them...
Great stuff guys, keep it going.
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My Project Apollo work in progress:
* New detailed Lunar Module Ascent stage with virtual cockpit (VC currently planned as eye candy only) 18 % done
My Project Apollo work to be continued:
* new Service Module SPS engine bell
* various Saturn V textures, exhaust textures
* SIM Bay for the SM
My long-term plans are to create a:
* New detailed Lunar Module descent stage (eventually models of all flown LM's)
* New F-1 engines for the S-1C stage showing the foil (batting) insulation
* New LUT and launch pad (if nobody else does it)
Quetalsi
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Reply #112 on:
February 28, 2006, 03:55:14 PM »
Hi, CVS updated with these changes:
1.- Now saving/loading power distribution work or I hope so.
2.- Added CWS FC_DISCONNECT. This light is on if one FC are disconnected and its respective one switch is in center position.
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And it looks like the center positions have some "special behavior" related to the C/W system?
3.- Reset dc switches now work like reset ac reset switches.
I hope that all this well. If there is some problem, please tell me.
Greetings
Quetalsi
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Vincent Majerowicz
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Reply #113 on:
March 03, 2006, 12:49:10 AM »
Hi!,
I wanted to ask you, how is the CSM instrument panels coming along, is it almost finished or need more work? :lol:
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movieman
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Reply #114 on:
March 03, 2006, 06:14:55 AM »
I think everything that has to be done on the CSM panel is now done: the most important 20% or so of the switches should work the way they really do.
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Moonwalker
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Reply #115 on:
March 04, 2006, 01:00:04 AM »
@ Tschachim
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I had to change csm_main_panel.bmp and added the unlit ISS light, so I would be glad if you can consider that the next time you update it.
Of course Tschachim
I also considered the other changes. But you forgot to remove a small "B" on the main panel bmp just above the right side of the CW lights. I think it's because you changed the MAIN BUS A/B lights :lol: But it's no problem, I already removed the "B".
@ Quetalsi
Thanks a lot for your help! Keep going
Don't hesitate to point to other wrong stuff
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Command Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
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http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/cm_panel_management.jpg
Lunar Excursion Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/lm_panel_management.jpg
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Reply #116 on:
March 04, 2006, 08:35:46 AM »
Hi Moonwalker,
it's great to see you!
Thanks for fixing the main panel, looks like a was a little bit sloppy.
For me the CVS is working again, so you should be able to commit the new LM panel stuff.
Hi Quetalsi,
thanks for fixing, saving and loading is fine now.
I'm still no expert regarding the electrical stuff, but I think the C/W main bus disconnect light is not correct, the AOH means that the alarm is only triggered in case of an automatic disconnect when the current is greater than 75A or smaller than -4A.
We can simulate overcurrent by switching only one fuel cell to one main bus and supplying both AC busses with that main bus, but the bigger problem is reverse current. I think this happens if you have 2 fuel cells at one bus and shut down one fuel cell. Then the other fuel cell is like a resistor consuming power like the bus itself, but I'm not sure if this "power distribution tree" implementation of the electrical wiring network is capable to simulate that.
Radu mentioned that the new SPSDK can calculate electrical wiring networks much more physically correct, so I'm not sure if we can and/or should fix that?
Cheers
Tschachim
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Moonwalker
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Reply #117 on:
March 04, 2006, 09:10:31 AM »
Yeah CVS is working again
But I have trouble to commit the latest CSM main panel
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Command Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
Complete:
http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/cm_panel_management.jpg
Lunar Excursion Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/lm_panel_management.jpg
Moonwalker
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Reply #118 on:
March 04, 2006, 09:38:43 AM »
I have trouble to commit the latest CSM main panel:
I'm able to do an update, but I can't set it to "edit". When I try to commit I get a message that someone else has done some changes before and I have to do an update. But after the update I can't set it to edit. That means: I'm not able to commit the latest version. Something bad happened
:
Any ideas?
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Command Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
Complete:
http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/cm_panel_management.jpg
Lunar Excursion Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/lm_panel_management.jpg
Moonwalker
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Reply #119 on:
March 04, 2006, 09:45:01 AM »
At the moment CVS works like windows 98
CVS seems to be down again
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Command Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
Complete:
http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/cm_panel_management.jpg
Lunar Excursion Module 2D Panel Graphics Status:
http://www.nasa-virtual.com/project_apollo/instrument_panels/lm_panel_management.jpg
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