Quoting Norman Budnitz <nbudnitz@duke.edu>: > The "car car" or "aw aw" calls are better, particularly if > repeated over some period of time, not just once or twice. But is that > sufficient information for a winter ID? It's good enough for a summer ID, so why not for a winter ID? Kent Fiala (whose Christmas count territory includes Jeff Pippen's winter Fish Crow spot) Raleigh NC