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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:02:25 -0600
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There are 4 messages totalling 135 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Aeration (2)
2. Irrigation Market Research - USA
3. Aeration/SDI on turf
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:56:55 +1000
From: Wally Menke (wallym@OZEMAIL.COM.AU)
Subject: Aeration
Has anyone out there done any work/papers/experience, or has any theories on
using subsurface drip system as a means of aeration on turf grass??
If so I would be greatful.
Regards
Wally Menke
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 19:00:34 +0800
From: Peter Moller (agrilink@IINET.NET.AU)
Subject: Irrigation Market Research - USA
A contact of mine requires the services of a US based professional to
assess the commercial value of an irrigation product in the US market. The
services include identifying market segments, potential sales, total value
of US market, & estimating market penetration rates over a period of time.
Please email me contact names &/or details together with a capability
statement, so that a terms of reference can be provided & a proposal
submitted.
Regards,
Peter Moller
Irrigation Agronomist
Agrilink
Phone: +61 8 9275 9990
Fax: +61 8 9275 9991
Web: http://www.iinet.net.au/~agrilink
Email: agrilink@iinet.net.au
P.O. Box 260 Bassendean
Western Australia 6054
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Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 08:37:07 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: Aeration
What specifically are you trying to achieve or what condition do you want to
ameliorate. Aeration has limited effectiveness and can create other problems..
Wally Menke wrote:
) Has anyone out there done any work/papers/experience, or has any theories on
) using subsurface drip system as a means of aeration on turf grass??
)
) If so I would be greatful.
)
) Regards
) Wally Menke
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:30:17 -0700
From: Richard Mead (rmead@AGRILINK-INT.COM)
Subject: Re: Aeration/SDI on turf
Dear Wally and others interested in drip and turf,
There was a 1995 Sunset magazine article on buried drip irrigation in turf.
I was scanning the Net this morning after reading your query on aeration
and decided to see if Sunset put their articles online. Sure enough, the
article is there at:
http://pathfinder.com/@@86sGYQQAjBhB8kT8/vg/Magazine-Rack/Sunset/1995/June/d
ripirrigation.html
I'm not sure if it has sufficient information regarding aeration for you,
but it's a start.
There's also a CIT online paper entitled "Subsurface Drip Irrigation (SDI)
on Turfgrass:
A University Experience" at:
http://www.atinet.org/cati/cit/rese/95/950104/index.html
Contact Dave Zoldoske (david_zoldoske@csufresno.edu), the director of CIT
to find out more on aeration, turf and SDI.
The Microirrigation Forum* also has some archived discussions regarding
turf and drip issues:
-SDI on golf greens/athletic fields at http://www.mif.org/sdigolf_fields.html
-SDI in Turf at http://www.mif.org/turf.html
-Drip and subaeration system at http://www.mif.org/aera.html
Finally, I believe Trickle-L subscriber Dave Enyeart of GroAire Irrigation
has done some remarkable work with aeration, yet I don't know if he has
experience with turf.
RMM
Trickle-L owner/manager
*As a side note, the MIF web site was recently moved to a supposedly faster
server, yet I have found that this server is much slower...please excuse
its snails pace...how frustrating :-(
At 06:56 PM 9/30/97 +1000, you wrote:
)Has anyone out there done any work/papers/experience, or has any theories on
)using subsurface drip system as a means of aeration on turf grass??
)
)If so I would be greatful.
)
)Regards
)Wally Menke
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 21:56:05 +1000
From: Wally Menke (wallym@OZEMAIL.COM.AU)
Subject: Re: Aeration
At 08:37 AM 29/09/97 -0400, you wrote:
)What specifically are you trying to achieve or what condition do you want to
)ameliorate. Aeration has limited effectiveness and can create other problems..
What we would like to achieve is to use the SDI as a means of aerating or
getting oxygen to the root zone of the turf to help it grow, reduce
compaction, and increase drainage during wet weather periods. All sounds
good to us in theory but in practice???
Regards Wally M
)Wally Menke wrote:
)
)) Has anyone out there done any work/papers/experience, or has any theories on
)) using subsurface drip system as a means of aeration on turf grass??
))
)) If so I would be greatful.
)
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:23:04 +0100
From: "Thomas-M. Stein" (stein@WIZ.UNI-KASSEL.DE)
Subject: Re: Aeration
Wally,
According to Wally Menke:
)At 08:37 AM 29/09/97 -0400, you wrote:
))What specifically are you trying to achieve or what condition do you want to
))ameliorate. Aeration has limited effectiveness and can create other problems..
)
)What we would like to achieve is to use the SDI as a means of aerating or
)getting oxygen to the root zone of the turf to help it grow, reduce
)compaction, and increase drainage during wet weather periods. All sounds
)good to us in theory but in practice???
Is it for sport fields or "regular" lawn ? What type of soil do you
have. Many sport fields (in Germany) have sand layers instead of soil
to allow good drainage. Compaction and aeration shouldn't be a problem.
Thomas
University of Kassel
(stein@wiz.uni-kassel.de)
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:42:01 -0600
From: Wilderness Flowers (flowers@RT66.COM)
Subject: Re: Aeration
Wally try contacting dave enyeart at groaire he specializes in designing
sdi systems for both field and greenhouse operations at groaire@aol.com
he is a list member and will likely respond if he is at acomputer sooon
systems ive seen that he has designed for row crops produce twice the crop
in half the time with half the water ..martin
)
)Wally Menke wrote:
)
)) Has anyone out there done any work/papers/experience, or has any theories on
)) using subsurface drip system as a means of aeration on turf grass??
))
)) If so I would be greatful.
))
)) Regards
)) Wally Menke
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Martin & Damien Connaughton
Wilderness Flowers
Flowers@rt66.com
Rt 19 Box 111-D
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 988 3096
"Think Flowers"
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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 03:49:55 -0600
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There are 4 messages totalling 141 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Moisture Sensors, Comparisons
2. Aeration
3. subaeration & ozone
4. Aeration in potato hills
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:20:53 -0700
From: ClemWehner (cww@PACIFICCOAST.NET)
Subject: Moisture Sensors, Comparisons
Back in 1992 I was hired to do a market survey for a
Moisture Measuring system then being developed, based on
earlier knowlege that used Time Domain Reflectometry (TDR).
The survey looked at several applications linked to Agriculture
and Industry. Of particular interest were Irrigated lands:
1) the cost of water and moving it during growing seasons, and
2) post-harvest measurement and management of moisture in large
volumes of product such as grains and dried fruits.
Insofar as Irrigated Land, the section, "Present Methods Available
to Determine Moisture in Soils" can be obtained as an excerpt from
the Market Survey for TDR Moisture Measuring Instruments.
This review would be useful to current Trickle-L and Irrigation-L
discussions of Soil Moisture Sensor Comparison Papers.
There's need for an update, though: After I did the
1992 TDR survey there have appeared in the marketplace
at least two other Soil Moisture Sensor methods:
1) Multisensor Capacitance Probes
2) Heat Dissipation Blocks.
Meanwhile, the TDR moisture-measuring concept is now commercially
available as the "Moisture Point" system, manufactured and marketed
by Environmental Sensors Inc., Victoria, BC, Canada
100-4243 Glanford Avenue
Victoria, BC V8Z 4B9
Phone: 250-479-6588 Fax: 250-479-1412
E-mail: admin@esica.com
Yours truly,
Clem Wehner C. Wehner & Associates
Marketing Consulants International
905 Gordon Street
Victoria, BC, Canada V8W 3P9
Phone & Fax: 250-383-1959
E-mail: cww@pacificcoast.net
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:22:21 -0400
From: GroAire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Aeration
Hello Wally,
I have 15 years of experience of using subsurface drip to deliver my air
management programs to the root zones of all crops including bluegrass and
native grasses. I installed my first subaeration system prior to drip tapes
twenty years ago and eventually moved into tapes as a more efficicent means
of delivery. My oldest bluegrass system is was installed 13 years ago and
just finished it's 14th season. The most recent site installed was in Nevada
by an extension specialist who is elated. One of the most striking benefits
aside from bacterial stimulation is reduced root intrusion. Other benefits
follow:
1. reduced incidence of fungi and anaerobic disease.
2. no longer requirements of core aeration
3. better penetration of water into the soil profile
4. faster breakdown of organic matter
5. increased worm populations
And too many more to discuss in this short dialoge.
Feel free to contact me at your convience.
Dave Enyeart
GroAire Irrigation Inc
303-650-0472 office
303-912-7637 cell
GroAire@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:48:54 -0400
From: GroAire@AOL.COM
Subject: subaeration & ozone
As most of you know I have been actively involved in designing and installing
subsurface irrigation and aeration systems for 15 years. I am now prepared to
move to the next level even though the present market is just now developing.
Nothing like staying ahead of the game by 20 years. I would like to pose a
question to any interested parties - particularly in California ( as there
are some entities who would be interested in cost sharing in some beta
plots).
Would thre be a genuine intrest in injecting ozone in subsoils to promote
growth and possibly work as a substitute to methly bromide?
Dave Enyeart
GroAire@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:39:16 -0600
From: Clint Shock (mesosu@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Aeration in potato hills
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Friends,
Has anyone used drip tape to enhance aeration of soil for potato
(Solanum tuberosum) production? What was the outcome?
Clint
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Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 03:47:38 -0600
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Subject: TRICKLE-L Digest - 2 Oct 1997 to 3 Oct 1997
There is one message totalling 49 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. subaeration & ozone
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:31:15 -0600
From: Wilderness Flowers (flowers@RT66.COM)
Subject: Re: subaeration & ozone
dave
is there any evidencce that ozone can act to control fungi as does methyl
bromide ... only thought of it as an o2 source... a hog farmer i know in
alamosa has had some sucess with ozonation of his watersupply to thehogs as
a method to control some nh4 problems
martin)
As most of you know I have been actively involved in designing and installing
)subsurface irrigation and aeration systems for 15 years. I am now prepared to
)move to the next level even though the present market is just now developing.
)Nothing like staying ahead of the game by 20 years. I would like to pose a
)question to any interested parties - particularly in California ( as there
)are some entities who would be interested in cost sharing in some beta
)plots).
)
)Would thre be a genuine intrest in injecting ozone in subsoils to promote
)growth and possibly work as a substitute to methly bromide?
)
)Dave Enyeart
)GroAire@aol.com
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Martin & Damien Connaughton
Wilderness Flowers
Flowers@rt66.com
Rt 19 Box 111-D
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 988 3096
"Think Flowers"
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 03:48:55 -0600
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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:09:09 -0400
From: Irrometer@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Moisture Sensors, Comparisons
In a message dated 97-10-02 18:33:34 EDT, you write:
(( Insofar as Irrigated Land, the section, "Present Methods Available
to Determine Moisture in Soils" can be obtained as an excerpt from
the Market Survey for TDR Moisture Measuring Instruments.
This review would be useful to current Trickle-L and Irrigation-L
discussions of Soil Moisture Sensor Comparison Papers. ))
I'd like to see it.
Regards, Bill Pogue, President, Irrometer Company Inc.
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 00:00:04 -0600
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There are 3 messages totalling 82 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. September '97 archives
2. Project Funding
3. New member introductions
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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:54:45 -0700
From: Richard Mead (rmead@AGRILINK-INT.COM)
Subject: September '97 archives
The archives for September '97 are now available on the MIF web site. Last
month's discussions include:
-A.D.I. Dripper Technology [www.mif.org/adi.html]
-Alfalfa tissue low in Mg, Mn, and Zn using SDI [www.mif.org/alfnutsdi.html]
-ALUMINUM TOXICITY IN AGRICULTURE [www.mif.org/altox.html]
-Is root intrustion a problem in turf with SDI applictions?
[www.mif.org/turfrootsdi.html]
-Lateral placement for SDI: Where to place it? [www.mif.org/latsdi.html]
-Porous or Leaky pipe [www.mif.org/porleak.html]
-Scheduling irrigations by "feel" and software [www.mif.org/feelsch.html]
I have also noticed that the Microirrigation web site loads much quicker
when using the Internet Explorer browser (3 or 4). Once again, Bill Gates
wins... My apologies to those using Netscape.
Nevertheless, enjoy the archives for those of you who want to catch up!
Richard Mead
Trickle-L owner/manager
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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:42:09 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Project Funding
We have access to funding at interest rates from 2 points below the
market rate to
0% interest for projects from 5 to 300 million. The difference is the
degree to which it is considered to benefit humanity or incorporate new
technologies which would benefit mankind even if unproven. It requires a
standby letter of credit drawn on one of the top 100 banks.
In energy savings technology, generally we can guarantee minimum 35%
savings annually guaranteed by insurance company and the loan is
repaid out of savings. In those cases, The terms of the standby letter
of credit will contain language that it will never be drawn upon.
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:28:18 +0200
From: Dr Jean Piaget (henri@ILINK.NIS.ZA)
Subject: Re: New member introductions
At 08:44 29/09/97 -0700, you wrote:
)The following info is from two new members to Trickle-L; Doug McClymont of
)Zimbabwe and Julia Tien of the San Francisco Bay area.
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)9) Do you have rodent damage? If so, how do you control the problem?
And Doug replied----- Often - perhaps you can tell me!!!!
Can you? or any one on the list ?
We seem to have a plague of small moles that creep just under the surface of
the soil, lifting it up slightly and leaving their tunnels behind.
Within days the irrigated beds are full of these tunnels with the result
that roots dry out and water transfer and distribution through the soil is
chaotic, be it under micro or drip.
We have tried flooding them out, but ran out of time and water, pouring
pungent smelling liquids into the tunnels, placing mothballs, commercial
mole repellent in them, planting garlic or onion --Ha! Ha! they just go
round these bulbs. Also read somewhere that their burrows are metres
underground.
Any solution someone?
Regards, Jean/
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There are 8 messages totalling 294 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Project Funding
2. Mail failure
3. Computer Conference Announcement
4. (No subject given)
5. [IR-L] Project Funding
6. September Archives
7. SOLAR PUMPING
8. Stainless steel wireties
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:26:14 -0400
From: Tom Leyden (Pvtl2@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: Project Funding
Saw your note and would like to know more. My company, WorldWater
Corporation, is a solar energy company that speicializes in solar water
pumping. We have technology that enables the use of solar energy to drive
off-the-shelf AC pumps. The irrigation systems we have done to date have
been flood systems, but we are interested in pursuing drip and other
effeicient methods.
I would be interested in hearing from you about speicific opportunities to
use our technology, or funding programs we could tap into for R&D,
commercialization, demonstration projects, project funding, etc. Any
thoughts would be appreciated.
WORLDWATER CORPORATION
Pennington Business Park
55 Route 31 South
Pennington, NJ 08534
609-818-0700 tel.
609-818-0720 fax.
Thomas Leyden, Vice President
PVTL2@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:37:28 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Mail failure
[005] The mail retry count was exceeded sending to SUB/SUB.
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From: Frank H
To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
Subject: Project Funding
Date: 1997-10-03 03:42
Priority: 3
Message ID: 05B5C0A33D3DD11180E2400051081108
We have access to funding at interest rates from 2 points below the
market rate to
0% interest for projects from 5 to 300 million. The difference is the
degree to which it is considered to benefit humanity or incorporate new
technologies which would benefit mankind even if unproven. It requires a
standby letter of credit drawn on one of the top 100 banks.
In energy savings technology, generally we can guarantee minimum 35%
savings annually guaranteed by insurance company and the loan is
repaid out of savings. In those cases, The terms of the standby letter
of credit will contain language that it will never be drawn upon.
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:02:05 -0400
From: Fedro Zazueta (fsz@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU)
Subject: Computer Conference Announcement
A very short note to those that might be interested.
The 8th International Conference on Computers in Agriculture paper
submission deadline has been extended to November 15, 1997.
For more information see http://www.agen.ufl.edu/~compconf/
Fedro S. Zazueta, Director
IFAS Information Technologies Office (http://hammock.ifas.ufl.edu/it/)
IFAS, Bldg. 162
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL 32611
Tel: 352-392-3196
FAX: 352-392-3520
Email:fsz@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Web: http://www.agen.ufl.edu/~fzazueta/
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:47:48 +0000
From: Ted Knutson (tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM)
Subject: (No subject given)
Anyone have any articles they'd like to write, story ideas or great cover
photos for Irrigation Journal. I'm Ted Knutson, the new editor. E-mail me a
tknutson@mail.aip.com or call me at 847-427-3008. FAX: 847-427-2006. Thanks
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 13:59:26 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
The range of projects is quit broad but they must have a humanitarian
purpose. For example, developing a coal mine in an area of high unemployment
would not be approved even though it provides work and income because of the
adverse effect on the atmosphere.
However implementing technology and application of research to reduce
problems in existing mines might not only be approved but could be granted.
We are working on a 12 mill project now that involves converting a large
area of abandoned grove to organic and putting in a new irrigation
system.Included is 4 million for application of new technology and research
to demonstrate ionisation, colloidal chemistry and surface charge effects and
electrochemical catylization.
The governmant of the country involved will put a a 14 million letter of
credit
for four years which will contain language that it cannot be drawn upon.
Other than the cost of issuing the L/c, the project will be done at no cost
and almost no strings attached after loan approval.
Depending on the project, the terms can be interest rate from 5% to 0%;
partail grant and forgivness or total grant and forgiveness. Projects as
small as 1.5 million can be done. The larger the project, the easier it is to
do.
Submit me a brief outline of a project (two pages) and I can generally
tell how to change it to get it approved. Approvals and funding are quite
rapid. We generally can move faster than the parties that are the recipients
as it takes a long time for them to understand and check with the attorneys,
etc.
Disbelief is the first reaction.
This is closely held information and only the top 100 banks in the world
can particpate in this funding. The L/c must be drawn on one of those banks.
Breifly it works like this. The recieving bank can draw 80% funds
availabilty against the L/C as an "off the books" transaction. (not affecting
their capital or uncommitted loan reserves). They take these funds and buy US
Treasuries in round lots at of a minimum of $1 million. Bonds in round lots
trade at a substantial discount to the same bond in $10,000 or $100,000
increments. By buying in large amounts (1 million or more) and
simultaneously breaking them down and selling them in small amounts, they
can make net 15% after all costs. Repeat this enough and the loan is covered.
This is monitored by the Fed but more as to meeting the intentions of the
program and not letting it get out of hand than to any details.
Hope this helps.
Frank hartman
PS among other things, I have a Masters in Finance and I don't understand all
of the Machinations of this program.But I don't need to. All I want to know
is enough to get approval. This is still a fairly new program and how long it
will be available isn't known.
Ted Knutson wrote:
) Funding for what. E-mail me @ tknutson@mail.api.com or via voice:
) 847-427-3008
) ----------
) ) From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
) ) To: IRRIGATION-L@LISTSERV.GMD.DE
) ) Subject: [IR-L] Project Funding
) ) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:42:09 -0400
) )
) ) We have access to funding at interest rates from 2 points below the
) )market rate to
) )0% interest for projects from 5 to 300 million. The difference is the
) )degree to which it is considered to benefit humanity or incorporate new
) )technologies which would benefit mankind even if unproven. It requires a
) )standby letter of credit drawn on one of the top 100 banks.
) ) In energy savings technology, generally we can guarantee minimum 35%
) )savings annually guaranteed by insurance company and the loan is
) )repaid out of savings. In those cases, The terms of the standby letter
) )of credit will contain language that it will never be drawn upon.
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:44:46 -0700
From: Richard Mead (rmead@AGRILINK-INT.COM)
Subject: Re: September Archives
Late last Friday I posted an announcement on Trickle-L regarding the
September '97 archives that are now available on the MIF web site. As the
owner of this list, I usually receive several 'bounced' emails from
numerous email accounts throughout the world that for some reason did not
receive Trickle-L email for that particular day. Since I did not receive
any bounced mail from the listserver after my posting Friday, things looked
too good to be true and I am assuming that it is possible that my posting
was not delivered at all.
Enclosed is the posting again. If you did receive this, excuse me for being
redundant :-)
Thanks!
RMM
Trickle-L owner
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The archives for September '97 are now available on the MIF web site. Last
month's discussions include:
-A.D.I. Dripper Technology [www.mif.org/adi.html]
-Alfalfa tissue low in Mg, Mn, and Zn using SDI [www.mif.org/alfnutsdi.html]
-ALUMINUM TOXICITY IN AGRICULTURE [www.mif.org/altox.html]
-Is root intrustion a problem in turf with SDI applictions?
[www.mif.org/turfrootsdi.html]
-Lateral placement for SDI: Where to place it? [www.mif.org/latsdi.html]
-Porous or Leaky pipe [www.mif.org/porleak.html]
-Scheduling irrigations by "feel" and software [www.mif.org/feelsch.html]
I have also noticed that the Microirrigation web site loads much quicker
when using the Internet Explorer browser (3 or 4). Once again, Bill Gates
wins... Sorry about that Netscape users.
Nevertheless, enjoy the archives for those of you who want to catch up!
Richard Mead
Trickle-L owner/manager
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:01:08 -0400
From: Tom Leyden (Pvtl2@AOL.COM)
Subject: SOLAR PUMPING
Hello irrigation specialists. Thank you for your welcome.
My company, WorldWater Corporation, is a solar energy company that
speicializes in solar water pumping. We have technology that enables the use
of solar energy to drive off-the-shelf AC pumps. This makes it possible to
go deeper and pump higher volumes than traditional solar technologies --
making solar irrigation practical for many applications. The irrigation
systems we have done to date have been flood systems, but we are interested
in pursuing drip and other efficient methods.
I would be interested in hearing from you about speicific opportunities to
use our technology, or funding programs we could tap into for further R&D
(relating to drip technology?), commercialization, demonstration projects,
project funding, etc. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
WORLDWATER CORPORATION
Pennington Business Park
55 Route 31 South
Pennington, NJ 08534
609-818-0700 tel.
609-818-0720 fax.
Thomas Leyden, Vice President
PVTL2@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:03:00 -0400
From: Norris Powell (nlpow@VT.EDU)
Subject: Stainless steel wireties
We recently completed a subsurface microirrigation installation on twelve
acres. For attaching the drip tubing to the polyethylene pipe that
connects to the submains we used 8" stainless steel wireties since they
were easily obtained, fairly inexpensive, and fairly easy to use. More
recently someone raised questions about their longevity buried 15" below
the soil surface. We expect this installation to last 10 to 15 years.
Soils are the acid soils of southeast Virginia.
Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas about this. We plan to expand
this system and would welcome any suggestions.
Norris L. Powell
Crop and Soil Environmental Sciences
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Tidewater Agricultural Research and Extension Center
6321 Holland Road
Suffolk, VA 23437
757-657-6450 ext 112
FAX: 757-657-9333
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There are 12 messages totalling 984 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Trickle-L posting
2. SOLAR PUMPING and SDI (F Lamm reply)
3. Aeration in potato hills
4. Moisture Sensors, Comparisons
5. Aeration (2)
6. September Archives
7. New member introductions (MOLES)
8. (MOLES):gopher buster
9. Local irrigation associations
10. Engineering data for air flow in irrigation drippers
11. (Fwd) Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:13:46 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: Trickle-L posting
In answer to your question about us, we are a strange group. We have a
virtual research program done online with people that come from a
spiritual basis (Not a religious basis) and are working as a group to
develop and implement new tools for healing in all areas. (the planet.
mental and physical)
It is called the Personal Healing Center. We have a financing tie and
a vitrual corporation of companies and experts in many areas that are
called upon for various projects.
I am only the spokesman for they water end of it. All our work has
been tested but it is done anonymously as no member publishes anything
under their own name in any journal. This gets us out of the ego thing and
in many cases the
members work would either be at cross purposes to the company or
institution they are working for or their work wouldn't be published in
peer -reviewed from jealously or because it doesn't fit the model of the
world of the reviewers.
We are focused on the practical applications. Will it work ? If it
does we spend time on it, If not, we go on to something else.
I don't know if this answers your questions but that's the best I can
do by way of explanation.
Frank hartman
Stephen Hare wrote:
) Dear Frank,
)
) Read with interest your notice posted on Trickle-L.
)
) I am envolved in the irrigation industry. I have interest in
) alternate sources of funding to expand our World Missionary Program to
) provide food source alternatives for starving people.
)
) Please provide me with your statement of purpose and information to
) contact you, so that we may communicate in depth about our respective
) interests.
)
) Thank you,
) Steve
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:27:10 -0500
From: Freddie Lamm (FLamm@OZNET.KSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: SOLAR PUMPING and SDI (F Lamm reply)
Thomas Leyden wrote (edited for brevity):
My company, WorldWater Corporation, is a solar
energy company that speicializes in solar water pumping. ........The
irrigation systems we have done to date have been flood systems, but
we are interested in pursuing drip and other efficient methods. I
would be interested in hearing from you about speicific
opportunities to use our technology, or funding programs we could tap
into for further R&D (relating to drip technology?),
commercialization, demonstration projects, project funding, etc. Any
thoughts would be appreciated.
Freddie replied: My colleagues and I put together a short concept
paper entitled "SDI and Electrotechnologies" for the Agricultural
Technology Alliance (ATA) semi-annual meeting in Boise, Idaho in May
1997. ATA is a division of EPRI (Electrical Power Research
Institute). The paper was published in their proceedings.
I could send you a copy if you'd like.
Freddie
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Research Agricultural Engineer *** o
KSU Northwest Research-Extension Center ***** /|\
105 Experiment Farm Road *******\\
Colby, Kansas 67701-1697 *********
Ph. 785-462-6281 ***********
FAX 785-462-2315 *************
Email:flamm@oznet.ksu.edu It's all downhill from here.
------ THERE'S NO DOMAIN LIKE OZ, THERE'S NO DOMAIN LIKE OZ. -------
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:38:42 -0400
From: GroAire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Aeration in potato hills
Hello Clint,
I have been designing aeration systems for 15 years using drip tapes. A large
share of the third party documentation has come from Universities and growers
of potatoes. All tuber crops, potatoes included, respond exceptionally to
aeration.
Not only due gross yields come up, but the quality and quantity of number
ones increases dramatically. We broke all records for Bonneville county in
Idaho in one of the plots. At another test in the production of minitubers
(micropropagation) at the University of Nebraska in conjunction with the
Nebraska potato certification association we cut production time by 40% and
increased total yield from 3 tubers per plant to 9 tubers per plant for the
Norgold M variety. I don't believe I mentioned both plots received absolutely
no commercial fertilizer or trace elements. I have also seen yields exceed
the capacity of the harvester. I'm sure all this sounds too good to be true,
but I've seen it replicated so many times I begin to sound redundant. All I
can tell you is to try it.
Incidently I design aeration and irrigation systems and currently operate
in 13 states. If I can be of any assistance through education, design, or
sales; please let me know.
Dave Enyeart
GroAire Irrigation
303-650-0472
GroAire@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:36:15 +0000
From: Ted Knutson (tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM)
Subject: Re: Moisture Sensors, Comparisons
Clem,
I am Ted Knutson, the new editor of Irrigation Journal.
Would you like to do an update as an articfle for us.
Can't pay lots and lots, but we do have respect and a good distribution in
the industry.
Call me at 847-427-3008 or e-mail me at tknutson@mail.aip.com
Thanks.
Hope to hear from you soon.
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) From: ClemWehner (cww@PACIFICCOAST.NET)
) To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
) Subject: Moisture Sensors, Comparisons
) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:20:53 -0700
)
) Back in 1992 I was hired to do a market survey for a
) Moisture Measuring system then being developed, based on
) earlier knowlege that used Time Domain Reflectometry (TDR).
)
) The survey looked at several applications linked to Agriculture
) and Industry. Of particular interest were Irrigated lands:
) 1) the cost of water and moving it during growing seasons, and
) 2) post-harvest measurement and management of moisture in large
) volumes of product such as grains and dried fruits.
)
) Insofar as Irrigated Land, the section, "Present Methods Available
) to Determine Moisture in Soils" can be obtained as an excerpt from
) the Market Survey for TDR Moisture Measuring Instruments.
) This review would be useful to current Trickle-L and Irrigation-L
) discussions of Soil Moisture Sensor Comparison Papers.
)
) There's need for an update, though: After I did the
) 1992 TDR survey there have appeared in the marketplace
) at least two other Soil Moisture Sensor methods:
) 1) Multisensor Capacitance Probes
) 2) Heat Dissipation Blocks.
)
) Meanwhile, the TDR moisture-measuring concept is now commercially
) available as the "Moisture Point" system, manufactured and marketed
) by Environmental Sensors Inc., Victoria, BC, Canada
) 100-4243 Glanford Avenue
) Victoria, BC V8Z 4B9
) Phone: 250-479-6588 Fax: 250-479-1412
) E-mail: admin@esica.com
)
) Yours truly,
)
) Clem Wehner C. Wehner & Associates
) Marketing Consulants International
) 905 Gordon Street
) Victoria, BC, Canada V8W 3P9
) Phone & Fax: 250-383-1959
) E-mail: cww@pacificcoast.net
)
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:08:42 +1000
From: Wally Menke (wallym@OZEMAIL.COM.AU)
Subject: Re: Aeration
At 01:23 PM 1/10/97 +0100, you wrote:
)Wally,
)
)According to Wally Menke:
))At 08:37 AM 29/09/97 -0400, you wrote:
)))What specifically are you trying to achieve or what condition do you want to
)))ameliorate. Aeration has limited effectiveness and can create other
problems..
))
))What we would like to achieve is to use the SDI as a means of aerating or
))getting oxygen to the root zone of the turf to help it grow, reduce
))compaction, and increase drainage during wet weather periods. All sounds
))good to us in theory but in practice???
)
)Is it for sport fields or "regular" lawn ? What type of soil do you
)have. Many sport fields (in Germany) have sand layers instead of soil
)to allow good drainage. Compaction and aeration shouldn't be a problem.
)
)Thomas
)
)University of Kassel
Dear Thomas
Thanks for your reply. Surface will be a for a sports oval, and Would be a
composite of sand and loam soils. From past experience here over a few years
time the profile tends to compact, especially with surface sprinkler
watering, and winter use for games when it is wet. Customer is very keem on
subsurface drip as a means of watering, we would also like to include the
concept of this with aeration, but at this point don't have the experience
ourselves to be able to confidently give assurances that this would work.
Regards
Wally Menke - Melbourne Australia
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:34:42 -0600
From: Carole Isberie (isberie@AIX1.AIX.CEMAGREF.FR)
Subject: Re: September Archives
) Since I did not receive
)any bounced mail from the listserver after my posting Friday, things looked
)too good to be true
They were very good, indeed. As a new member of the list, I was very
interested by the synthetisation of the discussions. In particular on the
topic :
Scheduling irrigations by "feel" and software [www.mif.org/feelsch.html]
Thank you.
Dr. Carole ISBERIE
Cemagref, Institut de Recherche pour l'Ingenierie de l'Agriculture et de
l'Environnement
DivisionOIAX , Equipe Irrigation
Le Tholonet
B.P. 31
13612 AIX-EN-PROVENCE CEDEX 1
Dr. Carole ISBERIE
Cemagref, Agricultural and Environmental Engineering Research Institute
OIAX Division, Irrigation team
Le Tholonet
B.P. 31
13612 AIX-EN-PROVENCE CEDEX 1
tel.: +33 (0)4 42 66 99 44
fax : +33 (0)4 42 66 88 65
e-mail : carole.isberie@cemagref.fr
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:52:10 -0700
From: "Alan S. Wicks" (awicks@TELEVAR.COM)
Subject: Re: New member introductions (MOLES)
Greetings,
Regarding moles and other vermin in SDI beds. Maybe one could run
something through the water right after laying the tape that would work
on the critters. If garlic/onion/red pepper stuff works, maybe water
run it into the whole root zone. Or maybe there is some other compounds
that would work.
Alan S. Wicks
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:29:58 -0600
From: Wilderness Flowers (flowers@RT66.COM)
Subject: Re: (MOLES):gopher buster
)Greetings,
re moles
a fellow flower grower in oregon uses a tool? called a gopher buster its
basically a propane source that is placed into the active tunnel and once
the propane fills te tunnels there is a piezo electric? spark and BOOM no
more gophers
he claims its the only thing that takes cares of this FIVE pound
gophers....so you thought you had problems!
martin
wilderness flowers
)
)Regarding moles and other vermin in SDI beds. Maybe one could run
)something through the water right after laying the tape that would work
)on the critters. If garlic/onion/red pepper stuff works, maybe water
)run it into the whole root zone. Or maybe there is some other compounds
)that would work.
)
)Alan S. Wicks
)
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)
Martin & Damien Connaughton
Wilderness Flowers
Flowers@rt66.com
Rt 19 Box 111-D
Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 988 3096
"Think Flowers"
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:26:09 +0000
From: Ted Knutson (tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM)
Subject: Local irrigation associations
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I am trying to compile a COMPREHENSIVE list of as many state, local, and
regional irrigation associations as I can find in the U.S., Mexico, and
Canada.
If you know of any, please email me at tknutson@mail.aip.com with the names,
addresses, phone and fax numbers and web sites (if any).
I've attached a list of the local associations I know of.
Thanks
Ted Knutson, editor, Irrigation Journalo
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:04:12 -0400
From: Cal Corcoran (clayton29@PIPELINE.COM)
Subject: Engineering data for air flow in irrigation drippers
Manufactureres or users of drip irrigation products for air
distribution rather than water:
Several years ago I did a significant amount of work in the design of
areation equipment for grain storage. I found that it was rather simple if
a general rule is kept in mind as the subject is approached. "Air is just
thin water." or "Water is just thick air." When attending workshops, etc.
on either subject the rules are the same the words are just different
(that's so there can be some experts in the field). "Static pressure, CFM,
etc.."
What I really need right now is some data on the air flow capabilities
of various drip irrigation products distributing air instead of water. I
have an air only project in the works and don't have any reliable
information. Is there any out there? For example: What is the air flow of
a 1/2 gph dripper at 5 psi? or 1 psi?
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:43:33 -0400
From: GroAire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Aeration
Hello Wally Menke,
I'm not quite sure what you are asking. I have 14 years of practical
experience in using drip tape for aeration of lawns. What specifically do you
need to know?
Dave Enyeart
GroAire@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:13:57 +0000
From: Frank Redmond (palmspring@BTL.NET)
Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
) From: palmspring@btl.net
) To: TRICKLE-L@CRCMVS.UNL.EDU
) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:03:29 +0000
) Subject: (Fwd) Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
) Priority: normal
) Forwarded message:
) From: palmspring@btl.net
) To: Frank Hsuemec@GATE.NET.
) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:40:14 +0000
) Subject: Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
) Priority: normal
)
) Frank Hartman
)
) Would this funding be available for a citrus waste disposal project
) in Belize. Estimate that 8-10 million required. Currently, the
) waste is disposed in open pits, which contaminate the water supply
) for surrounding populations.
)
)
) Frank Redmond
) Chairman
) Citrus Growers Association
) Palm Springs Farm
) Frank Redmond
) Box 13 - Mile 60
) San Ignacio, BELIZE
) Tel-Fax: (501)9-23353
) Email: palmspring@btl.net
)
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There are 7 messages totalling 211 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. (MOLES):gopher buster (2)
2. Engineering data for air flow in irrigation drippers (2)
3. (Fwd) Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
4. Project Funding
5. moles
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 01:32:50 -0400
From: "Dexter M.Ferry Sr." (Demofe1@AOL.COM)
Subject: Re: (MOLES):gopher buster
I have thought along the lines of using propane in the tunnels also,,,but I
have found a gopher den site under the house,and another in the well house
floor.The boom I get might be more than I bargain for.Personally I would be a
bit cautious of the Propane removal system.
Dexter M.Ferry Sr. (Scaredy cat)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:01:49 -0500
From: Freddie Lamm (FLamm@OZNET.KSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Engineering data for air flow in irrigation drippers
Someone wrote: I found that it was rather simple if
a general rule is kept in mind as the subject is approached. "Air is just
thin water." or "Water is just thick air." When attending workshops, etc.
on either subject the rules are the same the words are just different
(that's so there can be some experts in the field). "Static pressure, CFM,
etc.."
Freddie replied: Yes, these problems are solved with fluid mechanics,
BUT the reason some of the terms are different ****AND**** the
equations to solve the problems is because air is a compressible
fluid and water is an incompressible fluid. Static pressures can be
considered very similar but flows of incompressible fluids and
compressible fluids are different cans of worms. Then you must
consider whether the flow of the particular fluid is either turbulent
or laminar.
Freddie
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Freddie Lamm *
Research Agricultural Engineer *** o
KSU Northwest Research-Extension Center ***** /|\
105 Experiment Farm Road *******\\
Colby, Kansas 67701-1697 *********
Ph. 785-462-6281 ***********
FAX 785-462-2315 *************
Email:flamm@oznet.ksu.edu It's all downhill from here.
------ THERE'S NO DOMAIN LIKE OZ, THERE'S NO DOMAIN LIKE OZ. -------
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:00:43 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
sould be an excellent project. e-mail a max 2 page summary. Much prefer e-mail
as it goes from me to a list of researchers who have 24 hours to reply with any
objections. Speeds the process greatly.
Frank Redmond wrote:
) ) From: palmspring@btl.net
) ) To: TRICKLE-L@CRCMVS.UNL.EDU
) ) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:03:29 +0000
) ) Subject: (Fwd) Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
) ) Priority: normal
)
) ) Forwarded message:
) ) From: palmspring@btl.net
) ) To: Frank Hsuemec@GATE.NET.
) ) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:40:14 +0000
) ) Subject: Re: [IR-L] Project Funding
) ) Priority: normal
) )
) ) Frank Hartman
) )
) ) Would this funding be available for a citrus waste disposal project
) ) in Belize. Estimate that 8-10 million required. Currently, the
) ) waste is disposed in open pits, which contaminate the water supply
) ) for surrounding populations.
) )
) )
) ) Frank Redmond
) ) Chairman
) ) Citrus Growers Association
) ) Palm Springs Farm
) ) Frank Redmond
) ) Box 13 - Mile 60
) ) San Ignacio, BELIZE
) ) Tel-Fax: (501)9-23353
) ) Email: palmspring@btl.net
) )
)
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:57:00 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: Project Funding
send me information on your system. a project has just come up this morning
that might have an application.
213 Olive Ave. Ft. Pierce Fl. 34952
Tom Leyden wrote:
) Saw your note and would like to know more. My company, WorldWater
) Corporation, is a solar energy company that speicializes in solar water
) pumping. We have technology that enables the use of solar energy to drive
) off-the-shelf AC pumps. The irrigation systems we have done to date have
) been flood systems, but we are interested in pursuing drip and other
) effeicient methods.
)
) I would be interested in hearing from you about speicific opportunities to
) use our technology, or funding programs we could tap into for R&D,
) commercialization, demonstration projects, project funding, etc. Any
) thoughts would be appreciated.
)
) WORLDWATER CORPORATION
) Pennington Business Park
) 55 Route 31 South
) Pennington, NJ 08534
) 609-818-0700 tel.
) 609-818-0720 fax.
)
) Thomas Leyden, Vice President
) PVTL2@aol.com
)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:42:39 +0200
From: Jean (henri@ILINK.NIS.ZA)
Subject: Re: moles
At 09:39 07/10/97 +0100, you wrote:
)Jean
)
)For a low tech solution.....We have had some success ..........
Hi Patrick,
Thanks for answering my query. Unfortunately I clean forgot to mention that
our moles do not seem to mind coca cola bottles spinning on canes. Placed at
the end of a run does stop further progress in that direction .. but a sharp
turn right or left at the cane and they are off again... but not to the
neighbour. Unfortunately Pepsi bottles are not available !!!
I just wonder whether soil type & moisture level etc might not affect the
frequency at which the moles decide to emmigrate.
Regards, Jean/
)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:58:48 -0700
From: Tuctronics (tuctronics@WWICS.COM)
Subject: Re: (MOLES):gopher buster
Rodent chasers:
Another method of rodent removal is to suffocate them with the exhaust from a
piston engine. It is easy to see the exhaust coming up from unplugged holes if a
bit of diesel is added to the gas.
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:16:46 -0700
From: Tuctronics (tuctronics@WWICS.COM)
Subject: Re: Engineering data for air flow in irrigation drippers
) Freddie replied: Yes, these problems are solved with fluid mechanics,
) BUT the reason some of the terms are different ****AND**** the
) equations to solve the problems is because air is a compressible
) fluid and water is an incompressible fluid. Static pressures can be
) considered very similar but flows of incompressible fluids and
) compressible fluids are different cans of worms. Then you must
) consider whether the flow of the particular fluid is either turbulent
) or laminar.
How about this? For most of the year, air is a gas and water is a liquid. The
gas distribution industry should have additional solutions for gas
distribution.
Jeff Tucker / Tuctronics
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Topics of the day:
1. moles
2. Engineering data for air flow in irrigation drippers
3. Thwarting Lightning
4. Rabbits!!
5. FW: Thwarting Lightning
6. Algae (2)
7. Algae PONDS AND SAND FILTERS
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:38:55 -0600
From: John Hays (jhays@CAVERNS.COM)
Subject: Re: moles
If you want to get rid of moles plant Castorbeans. This will get rid of
moles and gofers. Also you can put the beans into the runs which is faster
but they will come back. John
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) From: Jean (henri@ILINK.NIS.ZA)
) To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
) Subject: Re: moles
) Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 12:42 PM
)
) At 09:39 07/10/97 +0100, you wrote:
) )Jean
) )
) )For a low tech solution.....We have had some success ..........
)
) Hi Patrick,
) Thanks for answering my query. Unfortunately I clean forgot to mention
that
) our moles do not seem to mind coca cola bottles spinning on canes. Placed
at
) the end of a run does stop further progress in that direction .. but a
sharp
) turn right or left at the cane and they are off again... but not to the
) neighbour. Unfortunately Pepsi bottles are not available !!!
) I just wonder whether soil type & moisture level etc might not affect the
) frequency at which the moles decide to emmigrate.
)
) Regards, Jean/
) )
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 10:07:25 -0500
From: Larry Curtis (lcurtis@ACESAG.AUBURN.EDU)
Subject: Re: Engineering data for air flow in irrigation drippers
Regarding recient mail related to air distribution...Has anyone
investigated removing water using an automated air purge system at
shutdown on SDI systems on rolling terrain as an alternative to
air-vaccum relief concept??
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Cal Corcoran wrote:
) Manufactureres or users of drip irrigation products for air
) distribution rather than water:
)
) Several years ago I did a significant amount of work in the design of
) areation equipment for grain storage. I found that it was rather simple if
) a general rule is kept in mind as the subject is approached. "Air is just
) thin water." or "Water is just thick air." When attending workshops, etc.
) on either subject the rules are the same the words are just different
) (that's so there can be some experts in the field). "Static pressure, CFM,
) etc.."
)
) What I really need right now is some data on the air flow capabilities
) of various drip irrigation products distributing air instead of water. I
) have an air only project in the works and don't have any reliable
) information. Is there any out there? For example: What is the air flow of
) a 1/2 gph dripper at 5 psi? or 1 psi?
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:57:17 +0000
From: Ted Knutson (tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM)
Subject: Thwarting Lightning
----------
Anyone have proven successes at keeping lightning from destroying or merely
playing havoc with the computerized controls on much of the new irrigation
equipment on the market?
Any new devices coming on the market to ward against lightning?
Thanks
Please keep in contact
Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:39:48 -0700
From: edmartin@AG.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Rabbits!!
I know there has been many discussions about varmits in drip systems. Well,
I have another one.
It seems that rabbits are chewing up the drip emitters on an orchard here in
Central Arizona. We've tried putting out open water, but I don't think they
are thirsty - I think they just like chewing the stuff.
We also tried spraying the emitters with pepper spray, but they got used to
that.
Does anyone have any other ideas? This is a large orchard and these rabbits
are causing quite a problem.
Dr. Edward C. Martin, Ph.D.
Asst. Specialist, Irrigation
Dept. of Ag. & Biosystems Engr.
University of Arizona
Maricopa Ag. Center
37860 W. Smith-Enke Road
Maricopa AZ 85239
Office: (520) 568-2273 Ext. 244
FAX: (520) 568-2556
E-Mail: edmartin@ag.arizona.edu
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:37:20 -0500
From: Joe Poirier (poirier@ACCN.ORG)
Subject: FW: Thwarting Lightning
Ted, I have heard of 2 new devices that are supposed to work. But I =
have not yet investigated their cost or effectiveness. I don't even =
remember the names. So keep your eyes open because there are some new =
devices out there. Joe Poirier.
----------
From: Ted Knutson [SMTP:tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 8:57 AM
To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
Subject: Thwarting Lightning
----------
Anyone have proven successes at keeping lightning from destroying or =
merely playing havoc with the computerized controls on much of the new =
irrigation equipment on the market?
Any new devices coming on the market to ward against lightning?
Thanks
Please keep in contact
Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:46:10 -0700
From: edmartin@AG.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Algae
At one of our farms here in Central Arizona, we are raising tilapia in in an
irrigation pond. Well, we are now going through several cycles of algae
bloom and it is interefering with the micro-sprayers on our grapefruit trees.
We have sand filters, but the algae just seems to get clogged in them. The
sprayers (I'm not sure what type they are) say not to use chlorine on them.
So, does anyone have a good solution to this? It is a small operation but
it seems as though the farm manager has gotten to the point where he may be
willing to buy an updated filter system if it will take care it the algae
problem.
If you have any recommendations, please let me know.
Thanks, Ed Martin
Dr. Edward C. Martin, Ph.D.
Asst. Specialist, Irrigation
Dept. of Ag. & Biosystems Engr.
University of Arizona
Maricopa Ag. Center
37860 W. Smith-Enke Road
Maricopa AZ 85239
Office: (520) 568-2273 Ext. 244
FAX: (520) 568-2556
E-Mail: edmartin@ag.arizona.edu
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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:08:35 -1000
From: Willy Pyle (AgSystems@MAIL.ORG)
Subject: Algae
)
)
)
)
))At one of our farms here in Central Arizona, we are raising tilapia in in an
))irrigation pond. Well, we are now going through several cycles of algae
))bloom and it is interefering with the micro-sprayers on our grapefruit
trees.
))
)
)
)Ed,
)
)We've had that problem here in Hawaii for many years. We found the Tilapia
)release a lot of ammonia, which severely encourages the algae blooms. The
)Tilapia are about the worst fish you can put in an irrigation reservoir in
)my opinion.
)
)
))We have sand filters, but the algae just seems to get clogged in them. The
))sprayers (I'm not sure what type they are) say not to use chlorine on them.
))
)
)The algae actually seems to attach and grow on the sand in the sand
)filters. I've seen neglected filters where the sand was solidified into
)solid blocks by algae or algae related growth. We found we had to
)chlorinate the sand filters once a day to keep it under control. We used
)about 10 ppm for 1/2 hr, or filled the filter tanks with 10 ppm water at
)shut down. You could probably devise a way to flush the chlorine out so it
)wouldn't contact the micro-sprayers. I have used chlorinated water on
)various micro-sprayers before with no adverse effects, you might want to
)check that out.
)
)We found that the microscopic algae particles that easily pass thru any
)know filter system also will settle in and grow colonies in the pipelines.
)These might also be algae related bacteria that are feeding on the algae
)that comes into the pipelines. Then these colonies break loose masses that
)are large enough to plug the micro-sprayers. We had to chlorinate the
)whole system 1/2 hr per day at 10 ppm in order to keep it under control.
)
))So, does anyone have a good solution to this? It is a small operation but
))it seems as though the farm manager has gotten to the point where he may be
))willing to buy an updated filter system if it will take care it the algae
))problem.
))
))If you have any recommendations, please let me know.
))
))Thanks, Ed Martin
)
)
)Getting rid of the Talapia from the ponds is a step in the right direction.
) They are the primary source of your problem. Sunlight in the ponds is
)secondary. A pond cover to block out sunlight helps a great deal. But
)just keeping the pond clean from contamination in the first place will go a
)long way toward solving the problem.
)
)Willy
)
)
)
)William L. Pyle, PE
)Agricultural Engineer
)Ag Systems Hawaii
)PO Box 90
)Puunene, Maui, Hawaii
)96784
)
)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:32:31 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: Algae PONDS AND SAND FILTERS
Ed
*I am appending an earlier post on algae and scale in irrigation. You have a
surface charge or zeta potential problem. Algae formation in pipes or ponds or
rivers or filters results from the reduction of surface charge on particles in
suspension. The same thing applies to river and pier sedimentation and silting.
If zp were understood, maintenance dredging would disappear.
In sand filters, the sharp points on the surface build up a net positive
charge.
Edwards and Monke- Ag engineering profs at the University of Nebraska and Perdue
wrote a paper "Electrokinetic studies of Sand Filtration" in Oct 1967.
ZP at the top layer 3/16 inch was +850 mv. Guaranteed recipe for coagulation and
flocculation. The rest of the filter was -36 to -133mv. depending on particle
size. (Smaller particles carry a higher electronegative charge.) which is why
when you scrape the algae off the top of the filter, it will do an excellent
job.
Depending on pond size, etc., there are several simple solutions. Send me an idea
of the size, source of water and method of entry and any outflow and any known
chemistry. With gpm , pipe size and longest run, there is enough information to
not only clear up the algae problem but also increase hardiness and growth of the
plants.
edmartin@AG.ARIZONA.EDU wrote:
) At one of our farms here in Central Arizona, we are raising tilapia in in an
) irrigation pond. Well, we are now going through several cycles of algae
) bloom and it is interefering with the micro-sprayers on our grapefruit trees.
)
) We have sand filters, but the algae just seems to get clogged in them. The
) sprayers (I'm not sure what type they are) say not to use chlorine on them.
)
) So, does anyone have a good solution to this? It is a small operation but
) it seems as though the farm manager has gotten to the point where he may be
) willing to buy an updated filter system if it will take care it the algae
) problem.
)
) If you have any recommendations, please let me know.
)
) Thanks, Ed Martin
) Dr. Edward C. Martin, Ph.D.
) Asst. Specialist, Irrigation
) Dept. of Ag. & Biosystems Engr.
) University of Arizona
)
) Maricopa Ag. Center
) 37860 W. Smith-Enke Road
) Maricopa AZ 85239
)
) Office: (520) 568-2273 Ext. 244
) FAX: (520) 568-2556
)
) E-Mail: edmartin@ag.arizona.edu
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There are 8 messages totalling 406 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Rabbits!!
2. small pumps (2)
3. Algae -Reply
4. FW: small pumps
5. SOLAR PUMPING and SDI (F Lamm reply)
6. SOLAR PUMPING
7. Thwarting Lightning
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 01:31:59 -0700
From: Tuctronics (tuctronics@WWICS.COM)
Subject: Re: Rabbits!!
Try Foil. They soometimes will not chew foil covered things.
edmartin@AG.ARIZONA.EDU wrote:
) I know there has been many discussions about varmits in drip systems. Well,
) I have another one.
)
) It seems that rabbits are chewing up the drip emitters on an orchard here in
) Central Arizona. We've tried putting out open water, but I don't think they
) are thirsty - I think they just like chewing the stuff.
)
) We also tried spraying the emitters with pepper spray, but they got used to
) that.
)
) Does anyone have any other ideas? This is a large orchard and these rabbits
) are causing quite a problem.
)
) Dr. Edward C. Martin, Ph.D.
) Asst. Specialist, Irrigation
) Dept. of Ag. & Biosystems Engr.
) University of Arizona
)
) Maricopa Ag. Center
) 37860 W. Smith-Enke Road
) Maricopa AZ 85239
)
) Office: (520) 568-2273 Ext. 244
) FAX: (520) 568-2556
)
) E-Mail: edmartin@ag.arizona.edu
)
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 05:06:35 -0600
From: Eric Jooste (ericj@GEM.CO.ZA)
Subject: small pumps
Hello all,
I am looking for a source of inexpensive, small submersible pumps to be used
for microjet demonstration tanks, and was wondering whether anybody on the
list would be able to help. I need pumps with an approximate duty of 200
litres per hour at 5 metres. The electricity source is 220VAC, 50 Hz.
Any help would be appreciated. Email or fax.
Thanks
Regards
Eric Jooste
Microjet Irrigation Systems
Cape Town
South Africa
Fax +2721 5351166
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:01:14 -0500
From: Joe McFarland (m-mcfarland1@TAMU.EDU)
Subject: Algae -Reply
Ed - take a look at the article "Control of high pH in aquaculture ponds" in
Aquacultural Engineering (1990) 9:175-186. The high pH (up to 12) was
controlled by controlling the algae with applications of organic carbon
that enabled bacteria to outcompete the algae for the nutrients. The
simple solution was to apply cornmeal as the most inexpensive source
of organic carbon.
Joe McFarland
Resident Director of Research
Stephenville Agricultural Research and Extension Center
254 968-4144
))) (edmartin@AG.ARIZONA.EDU) 10/09/97 03:46pm )))
At one of our farms here in Central Arizona, we are raising tilapia in in
an
irrigation pond. Well, we are now going through several cycles of algae
bloom and it is interefering with the micro-sprayers on our grapefruit
trees.
We have sand filters, but the algae just seems to get clogged in them.
The
sprayers (I'm not sure what type they are) say not to use chlorine on
them.
So, does anyone have a good solution to this? It is a small operation but
it seems as though the farm manager has gotten to the point where he
may be
willing to buy an updated filter system if it will take care it the algae
problem.
If you have any recommendations, please let me know.
Thanks, Ed Martin
Dr. Edward C. Martin, Ph.D.
Asst. Specialist, Irrigation
Dept. of Ag. & Biosystems Engr.
University of Arizona
Maricopa Ag. Center
37860 W. Smith-Enke Road
Maricopa AZ 85239
Office: (520) 568-2273 Ext. 244
FAX: (520) 568-2556
E-Mail: edmartin@ag.arizona.edu
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:08:42 -0500
From: "W. Bryan Smith" (wsmth@CLEMSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: small pumps
) I am looking for a source of inexpensive, small submersible pumps to be used
) for microjet demonstration tanks, and was wondering whether anybody on the
) list would be able to help. I need pumps with an approximate duty of 200
) litres per hour at 5 metres. The electricity source is 220VAC, 50 Hz.
Eric,
I made something similar to what you are describing using a Little
Giant submersible pump. These are usually used for fountains and
such, but seem to work well in the application you describe. I am
not sure if they are available in 220 v 50 Hz (they are available in
110 or 220v 60 Hz), but it would be worth a shot. I actually made
two - one for drip "tape" and another for hard drip PE tubing with
inline and punched-in emitters.
Contact Little Giant at 405-947-2511 (fax 405-942-2285) in Oklahoma
City, Oklahoma, USA.
Bryan
=|===|===|===|===|===|===|===|===|===|===|=
W. Bryan Smith
Area Extension Agent - Irrigation / Water Quality
Clemson Extension Service
P.O. Box 160, Newberry, South Carolina 29108 USA
Office: 803 276-1091 FAX: 803 276-1095
Internet: wsmth@clemson.edu
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All opinions are my own and not reflective of the
policies of Clemson University or the Cooperative
Extension Service.
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:41:15 -0500
From: Joe Poirier (poirier@ACCN.ORG)
Subject: FW: small pumps
Eric, There is a company called Cole Parmer that carries all sorts of =
pumps including submersibles. Their phone numbers are=20
800-323-4340
847-549-7600
Fax 847-549-1700
Telex 28-9405
And e-mail export@coleparmer.com
Joe E. Poirier.
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From: Eric Jooste [SMTP:ericj@GEM.CO.ZA]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 1997 6:07 AM
To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
Subject: small pumps
Hello all,
I am looking for a source of inexpensive, small submersible pumps to be =
used for microjet demonstration tanks, and was wondering whether anybody =
on the list would be able to help. I need pumps with an approximate =
duty of 200 litres per hour at 5 metres. The electricity source is =
220VAC, 50 Hz.
Any help would be appreciated. Email or fax.
Thanks
Regards
Eric Jooste
Microjet Irrigation Systems
Cape Town
South Africa
Fax +2721 5351166
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:23:25 -0400
From: Waldo Moraga (wmoraga@CMET.NET)
Subject: Re: SOLAR PUMPING and SDI (F Lamm reply)
Freddie:
Please include a copy of that inform to me.
Thank you very much.
Waldo Moraga Greve
wmoraga@cmet.net
Av.Colon 5500 Dpto.303 B Las Condes
Santiago CHILE
----------
) De: Freddie Lamm (FLamm@OZNET.KSU.EDU)
) A: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
) Asunto: Re: SOLAR PUMPING and SDI (F Lamm reply)
) Fecha: lunes 6 de octubre de 1997 19:27
)
) Thomas Leyden wrote (edited for brevity):
) My company, WorldWater Corporation, is a solar
) energy company that speicializes in solar water pumping. ........The
) irrigation systems we have done to date have been flood systems, but
) we are interested in pursuing drip and other efficient methods. I
) would be interested in hearing from you about speicific
) opportunities to use our technology, or funding programs we could tap
) into for further R&D (relating to drip technology?),
) commercialization, demonstration projects, project funding, etc. Any
) thoughts would be appreciated.
)
) Freddie replied: My colleagues and I put together a short concept
) paper entitled "SDI and Electrotechnologies" for the Agricultural
) Technology Alliance (ATA) semi-annual meeting in Boise, Idaho in May
) 1997. ATA is a division of EPRI (Electrical Power Research
) Institute). The paper was published in their proceedings.
)
) I could send you a copy if you'd like.
)
) Freddie
) -------------------------------------------------------------------
) Freddie Lamm *
) Research Agricultural Engineer *** o
) KSU Northwest Research-Extension Center ***** /|\
) 105 Experiment Farm Road *******\\
) Colby, Kansas 67701-1697 *********
) Ph. 785-462-6281 ***********
) FAX 785-462-2315 *************
) Email:flamm@oznet.ksu.edu It's all downhill from here.
)
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:20:04 -0400
From: Waldo Moraga (wmoraga@CMET.NET)
Subject: Re: SOLAR PUMPING
Tom:
I read your E-mail letter in Trickle-L, I`m very intereted on your
products.
I work designing and installing irrigation systems (most drip or micro) in
rural and poor areas of my country, CHILE.
I really thinks that your products have a place here. Please send me more
information or brochure and price list for that.
Thanks.
Waldo
----------
) De: Tom Leyden (Pvtl2@AOL.COM)
) A: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
) Asunto: SOLAR PUMPING
) Fecha: lunes 6 de octubre de 1997 15:01
)
) Hello irrigation specialists. Thank you for your welcome.
)
) My company, WorldWater Corporation, is a solar energy company that
) speicializes in solar water pumping. We have technology that enables the
use
) of solar energy to drive off-the-shelf AC pumps. This makes it possible
to
) go deeper and pump higher volumes than traditional solar technologies --
) making solar irrigation practical for many applications. The irrigation
) systems we have done to date have been flood systems, but we are
interested
) in pursuing drip and other efficient methods.
)
) I would be interested in hearing from you about speicific opportunities
to
) use our technology, or funding programs we could tap into for further R&D
) (relating to drip technology?), commercialization, demonstration
projects,
) project funding, etc. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
)
) WORLDWATER CORPORATION
) Pennington Business Park
) 55 Route 31 South
) Pennington, NJ 08534
) 609-818-0700 tel.
) 609-818-0720 fax.
)
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:03:17 -0700
From: Tuctronics (tuctronics@WWICS.COM)
Subject: Re: Thwarting Lightning
Ted,
I believe the minimum surge protection is a surge suppresser on a well
grounded system. My experience in lightning control comes from setting up
mountain top radio sites to be lightning resistant. Much can be done with
lightning arresters. These devices disconnect the power from electronics
during a surge. A surge from lightning can get into the system several ways.
Controllers exist that have more immunity to the effects of surges than others.
It is costly to create a system that can take a direct hit. Prudent
grounding techniques, surge suppression and wiring will solve most problems.
Can you tell me more about your particular cases? The pertinent information is
voltage of system, location and length of wire runs, type of pump, controller
brand, and other devices in the vicinity. Also, a description of your
geographic area would help.
Jeff Tucker
) ----------
) Anyone have proven successes at keeping lightning from destroying or merely
) playing havoc with the computerized controls on much of the new irrigation
) equipment on the market?
) Any new devices coming on the market to ward against lightning?
) Thanks
) Please keep in contact
) Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
) 2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
) e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 21:29:53 -0500
From: Nuse Family (nuse@MCMSYS.COM)
Subject: Re: Aeration in potato hills
GroAire@AOL.COM wrote:
)
) Hello Clint,
)
) I have been designing aeration systems for 15 years using drip tapes. A large
) share of the third party documentation has come from Universities and growers
) of potatoes. All tuber crops, potatoes included, respond exceptionally to
) aeration.
) Not only due gross yields come up, but the quality and quantity of number
) ones increases dramatically. We broke all records for Bonneville county in
) Idaho in one of the plots. At another test in the production of minitubers
) (micropropagation) at the University of Nebraska in conjunction with the
) Nebraska potato certification association we cut production time by 40% and
) increased total yield from 3 tubers per plant to 9 tubers per plant for the
) Norgold M variety. I don't believe I mentioned both plots received absolutely
) no commercial fertilizer or trace elements. I have also seen yields exceed
) the capacity of the harvester. I'm sure all this sounds too good to be true,
) but I've seen it replicated so many times I begin to sound redundant. All I
) can tell you is to try it.
) Incidently I design aeration and irrigation systems and currently operate
) in 13 states. If I can be of any assistance through education, design, or
) sales; please let me know.
)
) Dave Enyeart
) GroAire Irrigation
) 303-650-0472
) GroAire@aol.com
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I am interested in starting a vineyard on some upland pasture with poor
internal drainage(high clay content with hard pan at 15 inchs. As
grapes like dry feet my soil is a problem. Irrigation is also needed as
my central Missouri location has very variable rain fall especially in
the fall when water is critical for good fruit development. My question
is can airation help to mitiagate the water logged nature of my soil in
the spring? If so is it much more expensive to install than the drip
system? and what are ball park cost for an acre of grapes on 12 ft rows
with plants at 6 ft in the rows? At some point I would double up the
density and put another row down the middle of each open strip and in
effect have 6 ft rows. thanks Gene Nuse.
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1. Algae
2. Aeration in potato hills
3. Fw: help
4. Expressions of Interest - Drip Specialists
5. Expression of Interest - Drip Project Philippines
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:53:17 +1000
From: Wally Menke (wallym@OZEMAIL.COM.AU)
Subject: Re: Algae
At 01:46 PM 9/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
)At one of our farms here in Central Arizona, we are raising tilapia in in an
)irrigation pond. Well, we are now going through several cycles of algae
)bloom and it is interefering with the micro-sprayers on our grapefruit trees.
)
)We have sand filters, but the algae just seems to get clogged in them. The
)sprayers (I'm not sure what type they are) say not to use chlorine on them.
)
)So, does anyone have a good solution to this? It is a small operation but
)it seems as though the farm manager has gotten to the point where he may be
)willing to buy an updated filter system if it will take care it the algae
)problem.
)
)If you have any recommendations, please let me know.
)
)Thanks, Ed Martin
Dear Ed
You don't need sand filters for this application. A fully automatic self
cleaning screen filter will do the job just fine!. To size the screen
element of the filter correctly you will need to find out the smallest
aperture of the nozzles or spray, divide this figure by about 5 to give the
size you need. e.g. If your sprayer/mini sprinkler smallest nozzle is say
1.2 mm /5 = 240 micron.
Closest standard screen size to this is 200 micron = 80 mesh.
Note that a lot of the algae will go through the nozzle of the micro
spray/sprinkler. The filter will take out the problem material. If the algae
is real bad you could put back-up filters 80 mesh at each field valve.
Other comments to reduce the nitrogen level in the dam thereby reducing the
algae occurance would also be helpful.
Regards
Wally Menke
Triangle Filtration - Melbourne, Aust.
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 07:30:48 -0700
From: Rodney Ruskin (geoflow1@SLIP.NET)
Subject: Re: Aeration in potato hills
)I am interested in starting a vineyard on some upland pasture with poor
)internal drainage(high clay content with hard pan at 15 inchs. As
)grapes like dry feet my soil is a problem. Irrigation is also needed as
)my central Missouri location has very variable rain fall especially in
)the fall when water is critical for good fruit development. My question
)is can airation help to mitiagate the water logged nature of my soil in
)the spring? If so is it much more expensive to install than the drip
)system? and what are ball park cost for an acre of grapes on 12 ft rows
)with plants at 6 ft in the rows? At some point I would double up the
)density and put another row down the middle of each open strip and in
)effect have 6 ft rows. thanks Gene Nuse.
)
You raise an interesting point. While there has been good published
scientific work demonstrating the increase in growth when CO2 is put into
the irrigation water, I have been unable to find anything published that
demonstrates the value of putting air either into the irrigation water or
into the soil.
This is important, because if indeed there was soil remediation and an
increase in the aerobic bacteria in the soil then this would have a valuable
application when disposing of sewage effluent into heavy soils. This is a
major problem world-wide. If anyone knows of anything published or contacts
with scientists working on this problem, please post the informnation on
Trickle-l.
Thank you,
Rodney.
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:06:06 -0400
From: Max Tucker (mtucker@CANTVNW1.CANTV.NET)
Subject: Fw: help
----------
) From: Max Lee Tucker (mtucker@cantv.net)
) To: rmead@agrilink-int.com
) Subject: help
) Date: Miércoles 8 de Octubre de 1997 07:46 PM
)
) I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON HOW TO CONTROL BACTERIAS SPECIFICALY
) PSEUDOMONAS SP. AND ERWINIA CARATOVORA IN TOMATOES AND MELON
)
) We are planting tomatoes and melon with drip irrigation on fertile river
) bottom soils.
) The hibreds we are using are not ressitant to bacterias .
) Our soil pH is 6.5 average .
)
) Our stategy to control bacteria is :
) Increace pH with 1 ton of lime per hectare
) Use copper sulfate pentahidrate ( Phyton 27 ) thru the drip lines at 1
Kg
) per hectare
) making two aplications ( total 2 kg per hectare )
) Use Kasugamicin ( Kasumin) at 2 liters per hectares , two aplications .
) Use Agrimicin at indicated rates.
)
) Last season we used Kasugamicin and Agrimicin with mixed results,
partial
) control and reocurance of the desease . The desease apeared after fruit
set
) and wiped out 30% of our production.
) This season we have detected the bacteria 8 days after transplanting the
) tomatoes.
) the standard advice of "dont plant infected field is not a viable
) alternative" as this is the only farm we have . Resistant varieties are
not
) available.
) We are looking for practical advice .
) HELP .
)
) one farmer
)
) Lee Tucker
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:12:36 +0800
From: Bernard Peasley (kimpan@ENTERNET.COM.AU)
Subject: Expressions of Interest - Drip Specialists
URGENT REQUEST FOR EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST
AGRICULTURAL DRIP IRRIGATION SPECIALISTS
Bukidnon Horticultural Area - Philippines
We require the services of the following, two international consultants as
part of a seven man team to implement Package I - Drip Irrigation Component
of the Bukidnon Integrated Area Development Project. The project will
commence in March or April 1998.
The broad overall objective of the project is to achieve sustained
socio-economic growth of the province and a reduction in poverty; this
will be reflected by growth in provincial economic output, per capita
income and improvement in the human development index for the province.
The immediate purpose of the project is to enhance incomes and employment,
and improve living standards through the provision of development
infrastructure, economic and social services. Related objectives are the
strengthening of community capacities to support self-initiated and managed
development, and the strengthening of local government capacities to
sustain the development process.
The planning, design, implementation and management of agricultural drip
irrigation systems is a major component of the Project.
The objectives of consulting services sought are:
(i) to improve the efficiency of the use of irrigation water;
(ii) to provide improved irrigation technology that will increase
the production of high value crops on hilly and sloping
land;
(iii) to develop the institutional capacity of the provincial
irrigation agency to assist farmers implement sustainable
drip irrigation systems that increase productivity and farm
income; and;
(iv) where appropriate, to establish farmer (water user) groups,
developing their capacity to plan, manage, monitor, appraise
new technologies, and evaluate their own process of
development and thereby progress to self-reliance.
The two positions to be filled are:
Team Leader/Drip Irrigation Planning Specialist - 18 months
Drip Irrigation System and Specification Engineer - 12 months
Detailed Terms Of Reference (TOR) are currently being prepared for the two
positions and will be provided as soon as they are available.
The positions will be based in the Provincial capital of Malaybalay with
the work focused on target areas in 8 of the 21 municipalities.
Bukidnon is one of the major horticultural areas in the Philippines and the
proposal to introduce extensive drip irrigation is aimed at improving
productivity and quality of the main crops - tropical fruits and bananas of
smallholders.
Interested irrigation specialists, prepared to work in the Philippines for
the periods indicated are invited to submit Expressions of Interest by
Email (no attached documents please) or Fax, with brief curriculum vitae by
Tuesday morning 09:00 (Australian Eastern Standard Time) to either of the
following contacts:
Agribusiness International P/L
Tel: + 61 3 97613397
Fax: + 61 3 97613398
Email: Robert Ingram (theman@ozemail.com.au)
OR
Irrigation Design Consultants
Tel: + 61 3 9818 1655
Fax: + 61 3 9818 1722
Email: Bernard Peasley (kimpan@enternet.com.au)
Bernard Peasley (kimpan@enternet.com.au)
PO Box 827
Moonee Ponds VICTORIA 3039
Australia
Communications:
BUSINESS HOURS AFTER HOURS ALL HOURS
Ph: +61 3 9818 1655 Ph: +61 3 9375 7485 Mobile: +61 19 335 741
Fx: +61 3 9818 1722 Fx: +61 3 9375 7489 Pager: +61 3 9883 3385
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:42:10 +0800
From: Bernard Peasley (kimpan@ENTERNET.COM.AU)
Subject: Expression of Interest - Drip Project Philippines
To all list members, apologies if this was double posted - the first time
was not confirmed.
URGENT REQUEST for EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST
AGRICULTURAL DRIP IRRIGATION SPECIALISTS
Bukidnon Horticultural Area - Philippines
We require the services of the following, two international consultants as
part of a seven man team to implement Package I - Drip Irrigation Component
of the Bukidnon Integrated Area Development Project. The project will
commence in March or April 1998.
The broad overall objective of the project is to achieve sustained
socio-economic growth of the province and a reduction in poverty; this
will be reflected by growth in provincial economic output, per capita
income and improvement in the human development index for the province.
The immediate purpose of the project is to enhance incomes and employment,
and improve living standards through the provision of development
infrastructure, economic and social services. Related objectives are the
strengthening of community capacities to support self-initiated and managed
development, and the strengthening of local government capacities to
sustain the development process.
The planning, design, implementation and management of agricultural drip
irrigation systems is a major component of the Project.
The objectives of consulting services sought are:
(i) to improve the efficiency of the use of irrigation water;
(ii) to provide improved irrigation technology that will increase
the production of high value crops on hilly and sloping
land;
(iii) to develop the institutional capacity of the provincial
irrigation agency to assist farmers implement sustainable
drip irrigation systems that increase productivity and farm
income; and;
(iv) where appropriate, to establish farmer (water user) groups,
developing their capacity to plan, manage, monitor, appraise
new technologies, and evaluate their own process of
development and thereby progress to self-reliance.
The two positions to be filled are:
Team Leader/Drip Irrigation Planning Specialist - 18 months
Drip Irrigation System and Specification Engineer - 12 months
Detailed Terms Of Reference (TOR) are currently being prepared for the two
positions and will be provided as soon as they are available.
The positions will be based in the Provincial capital of Malaybalay with
the work focused on target areas in 8 of the 21 municipalities.
Bukidnon is one of the major horticultural areas in the Philippines and the
proposal to introduce extensive drip irrigation is aimed at improving
productivity and quality of the main crops - tropical fruits and bananas of
smallholders.
Interested irrigation specialists, prepared to work in the Philippines for
the periods indicated are invited to submit Expressions of Interest by
Email (no attached documents please) or Fax, with brief curriculum vitae by
Tuesday morning 09:00 (Australian Eastern Standard Time) to either of the
following contacts:
Agribusiness International P/L
Melbourne, Australia
Tel: + 61 3 97613397
Fax: + 61 3 97613398
Email: Robert Ingram (theman@ozemail.com.au)
OR
Irrigation Design Consultants
Melbourne, Australia
Tel: + 61 3 9818 1655
Fax: + 61 3 9818 1722
Email: Bernard Peasley (kimpan@enternet.com.au)
Robert Ingram
Bernard Peasley
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:26:44 -0800
From: Don Marquis (demarquis@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Oh such a deal
Does anyone have need for a NEW 125 HP submersible motor? Perhaps a
Allen Bradley Variable Frequency Motor Drive?
We haven't lost faith in the equipment, but we can't find anyone in
Ventura County who can install a deep-well system and get it right!
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:33:06 -0700
From: Tuctronics (tuctronics@WWICS.COM)
Subject: Re: Rabbits!!
Rabbits do not like to chew things wrapped in foil. It is a harmless method.
Jeff Tucker
edmartin@AG.ARIZONA.EDU wrote:
) I know there has been many discussions about varmits in drip systems. Well,
) I have another one.
)
) It seems that rabbits are chewing up the drip emitters on an orchard here in
) Central Arizona. We've tried putting out open water, but I don't think they
) are thirsty - I think they just like chewing the stuff.
)
) We also tried spraying the emitters with pepper spray, but they got used to
) that.
)
) Does anyone have any other ideas? This is a large orchard and these rabbits
) are causing quite a problem.
)
) Dr. Edward C. Martin, Ph.D.
) Asst. Specialist, Irrigation
) Dept. of Ag. & Biosystems Engr.
) University of Arizona
)
) Maricopa Ag. Center
) 37860 W. Smith-Enke Road
) Maricopa AZ 85239
)
) Office: (520) 568-2273 Ext. 244
) FAX: (520) 568-2556
)
) E-Mail: edmartin@ag.arizona.edu
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There are 6 messages totalling 235 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Need contact for Dexter Co.
2. Remember yet?
3. SDI and Electrotechnologies paper on WWW
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:41:17 +0000
From: Ted Knutson (tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM)
Subject: Need contact for Dexter Co.
Does anyone have a name and a phone number for a company called Dexter that
makes remote control units for irrigation equipment?
Thanks
Please keep in contact
Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:43:15 +0000
From: Ted Knutson (tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM)
Subject: Remember yet?
Any chance that you've remembered the names of the devices and the companies
or do you know anyone else who would know
Please keep in contact
Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
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) From: Joe Poirier (poirier@ACCN.ORG)
) To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
) Subject: FW: Thwarting Lightning
) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 16:37:20 -0500
)
)Ted, I have heard of 2 new devices that are supposed to work. But I have
not yet investigated their cost or effectiveness. I don't even remember the
names. So keep your eyes open because there are some new devices out there.
Joe Poirier.
)
)----------
)From: Ted Knutson [SMTP:tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM]
)Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 8:57 AM
)To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
)Subject: Thwarting Lightning
)
)----------
)Anyone have proven successes at keeping lightning from destroying or merely
playing havoc with the computerized controls on much of the new irrigation
equipment on the market?
)Any new devices coming on the market to ward against lightning?
)Thanks
)Please keep in contact
)Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
)2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
)e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
)Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
)
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:05:05 -0500
From: Freddie Lamm (FLamm@OZNET.KSU.EDU)
Subject: SDI and Electrotechnologies paper on WWW
Trickle-L members:
Several have requested written copies of this short concept paper.
It can now be found at http://www.mif.org/mifc.html
Thanks to Richard Mead for posting this document.
Freddie
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:19:25 +0800
From: Bernard Peasley (kimpan@ENTERNET.COM.AU)
Subject: Expressions of Interest - Drip Project, Philippines
Apologies to TRICKLE-L members if this has been posted already - however,
the posting has not been appearing at the sender's mailbox, so it has been
assumed that it has not been distributed.
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EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST
AGRICULTURAL DRIP IRRIGATION SPECIALISTS
Bukidnon Horticultural Area - Philippines
We require the services of the following, two international consultants as
part of a seven man team to implement Package I - Drip Irrigation Component
of the Bukidnon Integrated Area Development Project. The project will
commence in March or April 1998.
The broad overall objective of the project is to achieve sustained
socio-economic growth of the province and a reduction in poverty; this
will be reflected by growth in provincial economic output, per capita
income and improvement in the human development index for the province.
The immediate purpose of the project is to enhance incomes and employment,
and improve living standards through the provision of development
infrastructure, economic and social services. Related objectives are the
strengthening of community capacities to support self-initiated and managed
development, and the strengthening of local government capacities to
sustain the development process.
The planning, design, implementation and management of agricultural drip
irrigation systems is a major component of the Project.
The objectives of consulting services sought are:
(i) to improve the efficiency of the use of irrigation water;
(ii) to provide improved irrigation technology that will increase
the production of high value crops on hilly and sloping
land;
(iii) to develop the institutional capacity of the provincial
irrigation agency to assist farmers implement sustainable
drip irrigation systems that increase productivity and farm
income; and;
(iv) where appropriate, to establish farmer (water user) groups,
developing their capacity to plan, manage, monitor, appraise
new technologies, and evaluate their own process of
development and thereby progress to self-reliance.
The two positions to be filled are:
Team Leader/Drip Irrigation Planning Specialist - 18 months
Drip Irrigation System and Specification Engineer - 12 months
Detailed Terms Of Reference (TOR) are currently being prepared for the two
positions and will be provided as soon as they are available.
The positions will be based in the Provincial capital of Malaybalay with
the work focused on target areas in 8 of the 21 municipalities.
Bukidnon is one of the major horticultural areas in the Philippines and the
proposal to introduce extensive drip irrigation is aimed at improving
productivity and quality of the main crops - tropical fruits and bananas of
smallholders.
Interested irrigation specialists, prepared to work in the Philippines for
the periods indicated are invited to submit Expressions of Interest by
Email (no attached documents please) or Fax, with brief curriculum vitae to
either of the following contacts:
Agribusiness International P/L
Melbourne, Australia
Tel: + 61 3 97613397
Fax: + 61 3 97613398
Email: Robert Ingram (theman@ozemail.com.au)
OR
Irrigation Design Consultants
Melbourne, Australia
Tel: + 61 3 9818 1655
Fax: + 61 3 9818 1722
Email: Bernard Peasley (kimpan@enternet.com.au)
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:09:23 -0400
From: GroAire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Algae
Hello Ed,
In my irrigation resivoirs I use copper sulfate crystals to control algae. I
don't know if levels to stop a;gae growth would be detrimental to fish. There
is an alligator farm in the San Luis Valley of Colorado that also raises
talapia. You could contact them to find if they have some of the same
problems. However, I don't have their phone or address, You can contact
another talapia grower in the valley by the name of Ilene G. Kerr, 60556
County Rd E., Center, Colorado 81125 719-378-2448. She is a bit eccentric,
but you can probaly fish the information out of her that you arte looking
for.
Forgive the pun.
Dave Enyeart
GroAire Irrigation
GroAire@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 00:29:24 -0400
From: GroAire@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Aeration in potato hills
Hello Rodney,
Send me your snail mail and I will send you the ifo on research performed for
third party documentation by the University of Nebraska, Rutgers, Washington
State, & Idaho. The University of Munich has a current reserarch plot being
investigated by Tino Mosler ( a member of Trickle-L)
Dave Enyeart
Senior Engineer
GroAire Irrigation Inc
GroAire@aol.com
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There are 6 messages totalling 313 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Algae (2)
2. Aeration in potato hills, drip irrigation of potatoes
3. Algae/Aeration
4. Remember yet?
5. Need contact for Dexter Co.
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:51:27 +1000
From: robert bertollo (rbert@WEBFRONT.NET.AU)
Subject: Re: Algae
At 10:09 PM 10/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
)Hello Ed,
)
)In my irrigation resivoirs I use copper sulfate crystals to control algae. I
)don't know if levels to stop a;gae growth would be detrimental to fish. There
)is an alligator farm in the San Luis Valley of Colorado that also raises
)talapia. You could contact them to find if they have some of the same
)problems. However, I don't have their phone or address, You can contact
)another talapia grower in the valley by the name of Ilene G. Kerr, 60556
)County Rd E., Center, Colorado 81125 719-378-2448. She is a bit eccentric,
)but you can probaly fish the information out of her that you arte looking
)for.
)Forgive the pun.
)
)Dave Enyeart
)GroAire Irrigation
)GroAire@aol.com
)
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Hi Dave,
Iam interested in your comment on using copper sulfate crystals to control
algae problems in your reserviors. At what quantities do you apply it ? Do
you spread it over the top of the water?
How does chlorination compare with copper sulphate ?
Thanks
Robert Bertollo
Australia
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:59:26 -0500
From: "W. Bryan Smith" (wsmth@CLEMSON.EDU)
Subject: Re: Algae
) )In my irrigation resivoirs I use copper sulfate crystals to control algae. I
) )don't know if levels to stop a;gae growth would be detrimental to
) )fish.
Use of copper sulfate to control algae in fish ponds is a common
practice here is the southeast U.S. Determination of how much copper
sulfate to use depends on water pH and the actual volume of water in
the pond to be treated. The Extension Service has been recommending
this for years with no detrimental effect to fish.
You can kill the fish by applying too much copper sulfate, and you
can have little or no impact on the algae by applying too little
copper sulfate. Dont' guess the pond's depth and size - measure it!
A few notes on use from our Pesticide handbook:
- Lower rates are required in low pH waters, higher rates are
required in high pH waters.
- Before using, test the total alkalinity of the pond. If the total
alkalinity is less than 50 ppm, copper treatments are not recommended
due to the high risk of killing fish (copper toxicity).
- Under heavy infestations, treat only 1/2 to 1/3 of the pond at
once to prevent fish suffocation (due to decomposing algae, I would
assume)
Check with your local aquaculture specialist on recommended rates
and times of application for your area of the world.
Maybe a harder question is will the copper sulfate affect my crop?
I have no idea if it would or not - I'd guess that the amount would
be so dilute as to be unnoticeable to the plants, but that's only
speculation on my part.
Bryan
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Area Extension Agent - Irrigation / Water Quality
Clemson Extension Service
P.O. Box 160, Newberry, South Carolina 29108 USA
Office: 803 276-1091 FAX: 803 276-1095
Internet: wsmth@clemson.edu
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All opinions are my own and not reflective of the
policies of Clemson University or the Cooperative
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 07:04:59 -0600
From: Clint Shock (mesosu@PRIMENET.COM)
Subject: Aeration in potato hills, drip irrigation of potatoes
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Friends,
You may or may not be aware that the Malheur Experiment Station, OSU,
Ontario, OR has conducted irrigation research here during the last 12
years including the following:
1. water potential optima for potatoes, onions, and poplar trees
2. automation of drip irrigation based on soil water potential, and
3. comparisons of drip, furrow and sprinkler irrigation systems on onion
and potato yield and quality.
Our early studies of drip on potatoes were not as favorable as had been
hoped, but we can now carefully control drip irrigation. Consequently,
I am considering reexamining drip irrigation for potato production in
the Treasure Valley of eastern Oregon and southwestern Idaho. Your
experience and publications would be appreciated.
Since potatoes can respond to oxygen, I would like to incorporate
aeration into our studied. Consequently your reprints or literature
citations on this topic would be appreciated. Since the topic may be of
narrow interest, some of you may wish to respond back to me directly.
The silt loam soils typical of this region can set up pretty hard with
higher soil bulk density after being saturated, soil conditions that are
unfavorable for potatoes.
Clint
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:00:25 -0700
From: ClemWehner (cww@PACIFICCOAST.NET)
Subject: Re: Algae/Aeration
Hello Dave and Ed,
Would it help to aerate irrigation reservoirs, or
would that make the algea growth problem worse?
What about growing spirulina instead of algea?
But spirulina requires lots of sunlight and clean
water.
Regards,
Clem Wehner C. Wehner & Associates
Marketing Consultants International
905 Gordon Street
Victoria, BC, Canada V8W 3P9
PH/FX: 250-383-1959
E-mail: cww@pacificcoast.net
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At 10:09 PM 10/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
)Hello Ed,
)
)In my irrigation resivoirs I use copper sulfate crystals to control algae. I
)don't know if levels to stop a;gae growth would be detrimental to fish. There
)is an alligator farm in the San Luis Valley of Colorado that also raises
)talapia. You could contact them to find if they have some of the same
)problems. However, I don't have their phone or address, You can contact
)another talapia grower in the valley by the name of Ilene G. Kerr, 60556
)County Rd E., Center, Colorado 81125 719-378-2448. She is a bit eccentric,
)but you can probaly fish the information out of her that you arte looking
)for.
)Forgive the pun.
)
)Dave Enyeart
)GroAire Irrigation
)GroAire@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:47:03 -0700
From: Tuctronics (tuctronics@WWICS.COM)
Subject: Re: Remember yet?
Ted, I have offered to help you with this issue but I still need more
information. There is not one common solution for all installations. Please
elaborate on your site or sites. If you just want some name of a company that
makes this type of equipment, try Polyphaser Corporation in Minden NV. (702)
782 2511. Their products are the best protection for lightning I know of.
Ted Knutson wrote:
) Any chance that you've remembered the names of the devices and the companies
) or do you know anyone else who would know
)
) Please keep in contact
) Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
) 2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
) e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
) Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
)
) ----------
) ) From: Joe Poirier (poirier@ACCN.ORG)
) ) To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
) ) Subject: FW: Thwarting Lightning
) ) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 16:37:20 -0500
) )
) )Ted, I have heard of 2 new devices that are supposed to work. But I have
) not yet investigated their cost or effectiveness. I don't even remember the
) names. So keep your eyes open because there are some new devices out there.
) Joe Poirier.
) )
) )----------
) )From: Ted Knutson [SMTP:tknutson@MAIL.AIP.COM]
) )Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 8:57 AM
) )To: TRICKLE-L@crcvms.unl.edu
) )Subject: Thwarting Lightning
) )
) )----------
) )Anyone have proven successes at keeping lightning from destroying or merely
) playing havoc with the computerized controls on much of the new irrigation
) equipment on the market?
) )Any new devices coming on the market to ward against lightning?
) )Thanks
) )Please keep in contact
) )Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
) )2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
) )e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
) )Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:50:12 -0700
From: Tuctronics (tuctronics@WWICS.COM)
Subject: Re: Need contact for Dexter Co.
Ted,
I think you refer to Dexter-Fortson in Hueytown AL. The owner is Bill Dexter
at 205 491 8665. Bill Travis is a cheerful person and could possibly help
you. Also, Bruce Olley seems to be very technical and capable.
) Does anyone have a name and a phone number for a company called Dexter that
) makes remote control units for irrigation equipment?
) Thanks
) Please keep in contact
) Ted Knutson, Editor, Irrigation Journal
) 2101 S. Arlington Hghts. Rd., Arlington Hghts, IL 60005
) e-mail tknutson@mail.aip.com
) Voice: 847-427-3008 Fax: 847-427-2006
)
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There are 4 messages totalling 162 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Algae/Aeration
2. Such a deal I've got for you
3. New Irrigation Information Site
4. operating parameters
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:36:59 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: Re: Algae/Aeration
Clem\
Look for a supplier of swimming pool ionisation with a copper rod.
This will
put the copper into colloidal form. Crystals can have many undesirable
side
effects longer term. In colloid form, that doesn't occur.
I have so far put fish in colloidal solutions at ten times the toxic
level of
arsenic, copper, lead,iodine, cadmium and silver. At the same level in
ppm in non
colloidal form, death occured within 7 days. In colloidal form, no
evidence of
toxicity and they they seemed to thrive. Copper /silver is a better
combination of
rods and you will see major changes in growth and vitality if the unit
is the
right size. the algae will disappear. when you first start using it,
depending on
size of pond, etc. , turn it on for about 3 hours/day and increase the
lenght of
time while watching the algae. You can contol the speed of the algae
diappearance.
Fast kills of a pond full of algae can result in outgassing as the algae
deteriorates. It will pass but a little prudence will avoid it.
Avoid aluminum or any divalent or trivalent cation.
ps did I reply your earlier question on funding ? Upgraded to a new
version of netscape and seem to have lost some messages in the upgrade.
Frank hartman
ClemWehner wrote:
) Hello Dave and Ed,
)
) Would it help to aerate irrigation reservoirs, or
) would that make the algea growth problem worse?
)
) What about growing spirulina instead of algea?
) But spirulina requires lots of sunlight and clean
) water.
)
) Regards,
)
) Clem Wehner C. Wehner & Associates
) Marketing Consultants International
) 905 Gordon Street
) Victoria, BC, Canada V8W 3P9
) PH/FX: 250-383-1959
) E-mail: cww@pacificcoast.net
)
) ----------------------- 0 -------------------
)
) At 10:09 PM 10/14/97 -0400, you wrote:
) )Hello Ed,
) )
) )In my irrigation resivoirs I use copper sulfate crystals to control algae. I
) )don't know if levels to stop a;gae growth would be detrimental to fish. There
) )is an alligator farm in the San Luis Valley of Colorado that also raises
) )talapia. You could contact them to find if they have some of the same
) )problems. However, I don't have their phone or address, You can contact
) )another talapia grower in the valley by the name of Ilene G. Kerr, 60556
) )County Rd E., Center, Colorado 81125 719-378-2448. She is a bit eccentric,
) )but you can probaly fish the information out of her that you arte looking
) )for.
) )Forgive the pun.
) )
) )Dave Enyeart
) )GroAire Irrigation
) )GroAire@aol.com
)
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:45:12 -0800
From: Don Marquis (demarquis@EARTHLINK.NET)
Subject: Such a deal I've got for you
Does anyone, out there, have need for a NEW 125 HP submersible motor?
How about a Allen Bradley Variable Frequency Motor Drive?
We haven't lost faith in the equipment, but it has been impossible to
find anyone in Ventura County who can install a deep-well system and do
it right!
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:24:19 -0700
From: Tom Spofford (tspofford@WCC.NRCS.USDA.GOV)
Subject: New Irrigation Information Site
Irrigation-L and Trickle-L discussion groups,
I am finally proud to announce that the USDA, Natural Resources
Conservation Service has an irrigation information site up and
operational at the National Water and Climate Center. If you are
looking for irrigation information, it can be accessed from the
irrigation frame located at:
(http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/water/quality/wst.html)
The National Water and Climate Center has additional information
you might want to be aware of, such as climatic information water
supply forecasting, etc. The full entrance is at:
(http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov) and irrigation can be reached
through the Water Quality and Quantity selection area.
Any comments or questions should be posted directly to me so as
not to clutter up our discussion group.
Thomas L. Spofford, Irrigation Engineer
USDA - Natural Resources Conservation Service
National Water & Climate Center, Water Science & Technology
Staff
101 SW Main St., Suite 1600
Portland, OR 97204
PH (503) 414-3075 / FAX (503) 414-3101
e-mail: (tspofford@wcc.nrcs.usda.gov)
**************************************************"Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil and you're
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 18:49:56 -0400
From: Frank H (suemc@GATE.NET)
Subject: operating parameters
could someone give me some guidance on the range min to max of flows
and pipe sizes in tricle and micro. I realize there are a lot of
variations but 80% of the bell curve type figures. Interested in field
use not theoretical. WAG or rectal extraction type range is ok if
nothing better available.
Thanks
Frank Hartman
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