Article: 100833 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:57:29 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132892795.079085.65420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > Good point about the power supply. But here's a wild idea: what about > using a space-charge tube lineup. Now that could operate off 12V > (altho 5 AMP)! Back in the car radio days transistors were the output of choice even when the rest of the tube lineup was space charge tubes. Can't get much power with that scheme. Not impossible for a QRP rig though! -Bill Article: 100834 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David J Windisch" Subject: For sale Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:05:22 GMT Hi, all concerned: For sale: 1. 80-10M Drake L-4B amplifier, sn 1010, Eimac tubes, pwr supply sn 1000, book, in good condition electrically; cosmetically, a few scuffs around the front edges. No issues with it; I simply got an amp with 160M. If you pick it up, I could demonstrate its 600W out on c-w and 1100W out on ssb. 10-day money-back warranty, provided it comes back in the same condition it leaves. 2. Meissner Signal Shifter exciter in good working and physical condition; 3.4-30 MHz, copy of book. I got it to drive a homebrew 4-400 to a KW on c-w, but that's not going to happen. 3. ESS TIME MACHINE: complete info at: http://www.expandedspectrumsystems.com/prod2.html I have band-filters and 9 different crystals for 40-30-20-15-10M, FLX-90, LO1 external-lo buffer, wall wart, all manuals. Got this for experimenting with homebrew software-defined-radio, also not going to happen. 4. Original service manual for Kenwood TS850SAT. Sold rigs; buyers didn't want it. 5. Before-MFJ HyGain TH7DX broadband tri-band antenna, good condition, original book. 6. Cushcraft 402CD pre-XM240 2-element 40M yagi, good condition, with CC 40M rotatable dipole I got to make 3L yagi out of 2L. 7. TMC IPA r-f deck, uses PL-172/8295A (no tube; same *socket* as 8877; chimney could have 4-inch OD-3-1/2orso-ID machined hi-temp non-conductive ring sitting on 8877 to cover over difference in tube diameters), 750pF Tune/1000pF vac variables with turns-counters in 2-30MHz bandswitched tank which has 3/8-in silver-plated conductors, 2 multi-meters, 6CL6/6146 bandswitched driver, no power supplies. Pls make offers, and remember shipping from 45251. Antennas can be disassembled far enough to fit in those concrete-form tubes, for shipping. You know; those ones you've seen in bigboxhardware :o) Tks for reading. 73, Dave, N3HE Cincinnati, OH 513-674-7202 Article: 100836 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David J Windisch" References: Subject: Re: For sale Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:10:48 GMT Ads were a bit cryptic, sri. I'm seeking *offers*, tks. 73, Dave, N3HE Article: 100837 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: ehramm@dk3uz.ampr.org (Edmund H. Ramm) Subject: Re: Question on RFI and tube vs newer rigs References: <1132787385.950101.273360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:23:20 GMT In "JB" writes: > Forget about the split-clamp ferrites. Opt for the donut style torroid with > a hole big enough to feed the fone line and connector and wrap at least 4 > turns. > [...] It was only last weekend that I at last found and silenced a source of heavy S9+ QRM jamming everything from the mf broadcast band up to about 6Mhz. Said source was a neighbour's Goldstar DVD player. I tried those toriods (light blue) first, but their effect left much to be desired. The cure came in the shape of two 15cm (just below 6") long ferrite rods originally intended for mf broadcast reception around which I wound the DVD player's mains and audio cables, respectively. 73, Eddi ._._. -- e-mail: dk3uz AT darc DOT de | AMPRNET: dk3uz@db0hht.ampr.org If replying to a Usenet article, please use above e-mail address. Linux/m68k, the best U**x ever to hit an Atari! Article: 100838 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: w4sef@bellsouth.net (Steve Fritts) Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... Message-ID: <43889061.5563078@newsgroups.bellsouth.net> References: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:43:58 GMT How incredibly rude of "lazy"...I own a 350, love the radio...also own Icom gear...as for the antenna loading, you need to adjust it while tuining the radio but with as little power out as possible to save the finals from going soft on you. Steve W4SEF On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:26:46 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: >I have a silly question about the Swan 350 antenna >loading switch. Did they mean for you to switch it >while the rig was keyed for tuning, or were you >supposed to unkey the rig before switching it? > >I've always assumed the later, but... > >-Chuck Article: 100839 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Roger Blake Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:54:00 GMT In article <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck wrote: > several stripes. Which do you _honestly_ think is worse? All of the libs carping about Bush and Iraq would have a lot more credibility if they had done similar carping during Clinton's military adventures. As I recall, the silence from the Left was deafening when the Stainmaster General was busy invading and/or bombing countries that had not attacked us. I don't particularly care for Bush, but honestly believe Clinton was worse. For starters, thanks to him, Osama was left free to pursue his plans against us and the North Korean loonies have atomic weapons. The fact that he could not keep it in his pants is just icing on the cake. -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 100840 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David G. Nagel" Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <4F9hf.696$mJ2.4@trnddc02> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:10:22 GMT Lazy Senior wrote: > Steve wrote: > >> How about offering these as kits? Maybe even offering them >> with or without tubes? If you're able to keep the cost low I >> think you have a shot. >> >> Steve >> > > I dunno, a company called Heathkit tried that and went belly up. > > Lazy senior No. They were very succussful until another company who's name starts with a "Z" bought them out so that they could get a foothold in the home computer business. They ("Z") left Heathkit to flounder without proper finances until Heath closed. With proper finance and control a company could succeed with out much trouble. There are several "kit" companies out there that seem to be doing very well. Dave WD9BDZ Article: 100841 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ben Bradley Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <4F9hf.696$mJ2.4@trnddc02> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:21:42 GMT On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 02:34:40 GMT, Lazy Senior wrote: >Steve wrote: >> How about offering these as kits? Maybe even offering them >> with or without tubes? If you're able to keep the cost low I >> think you have a shot. >> >> Steve >> > >I dunno, a company called Heathkit tried that and went belly up. While that's true (and several other companies have ceased selling kits), it seems they never charged anywhere near what an "unassembled Heathkit" sells for now (factoring in inflation), as they're more properly called collector's items, rather than kits. I've had the thought of having faceplates and chassis made, assembling the parts and offering 'kits' of some of the more desirable Heathkit models. Much of the work, the actual design and the writing and debugging of the assembly manual, is already done for you. I'm unlikely to actually do this myself, maybe some others can run with it. There may be some copyright problems with the manuals, as well as possible legal problems with copying the design. Circa 1996 I called a phone number for "the real Heathkit - the only place for legal Heath manual copies, still covered by copyright" that I saw in some magazine, asked about a couple manuals (transmission tube testor, $25 at hamfest, metal dector $5 at yard sale), and they were $30 each. I went ahead and got the tube tester manual. But I wonder if there would be some interest in having boatanchor 'kits' available of some specific models that might be popular. Such a kit would likely cost more than a completed original can be bought for, but I can imagine that some people would pay extra to be able to build just one more "Heathkit." At the prices they go for, true unassembled Heathkits are real collector's items and are unlikely to be built, as that would destroy their (dollar) value, at keast much more so than building a 'copy' kit. This way, one could buy a 'kit' for its original purpose, to build into a working product. While selling such a kit may have legal hurdles with copyright and copying the design, you can build your own for personal use with no such problems. The OP wrote: >based on schematics and design >principles that have gone into the public domain. Hmm, would this include the older (1950's) Heathkits, or has what remains of Heath Company renewed the copyrights? >Lazy senior Article: 100842 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: <3G3if.2291$Y%5.161@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:35:11 GMT >members only event HA HA HA my ass! No such thing on the ham bands. "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:iLedna3pm_G1PxXeRVn-tg@comcast.com... > To those of you who were planning to join the AWA CW contest over the next > two weekends be aware that it is a members only event. I just learned so > today. Be careful not to intrude and work someone.(see emails below) > > I will be testing out my new Hartley and look forward to anyone else > (Member or not) who want to communicate with Old Time rigs.I will try not > to intrude upon their contest frequencies > > This is in no way a shot at Marc who was kind enough to point out the > rules to me. > > As a former (for no particular reason) member who has attended the > Rochester meet I have listened to the complaints about AWA over the last > few years and not thought much about them one way or the other. But I now > do see why people complain that they act as an exclusive group. > > Yes, I know I could join again and play in the sandbox the next two > weekends, but to be honest I'm not sure I care to anymore. > > > From: Carl Nord [mailto:chnord@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:11 PM > To: 'antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com' > Subject: RE: [AWA] Contest > > Marc, > > In all sincerity, thank you for the clarification as well as the others > who were kind enough to fully respond to my question. There certainly were > some rather unhelpful initial responses. > > I will continue to finish my HB Hartley this weekend but will make sure > (as a former member) that I abide by the AWA rules and endeavor not to > intrude on the frequencies and work any of the AWA members. > > That being said I will be on the air next weekend and perhaps some of the > other non- AWA members might like to pick a frequency to exercise our OT > equipment? > > Carl > WA1KPD > Visit My Boatanchor Collection at > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MARC > ELLIS > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:53 AM > To: antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AWA] Contest > > Hello all-- > > I've seen the recent queries posted about the AWA 1929 QSO party. > > I guess I should jump in and try to clear this up, though I have no > official connection with the AWA ham contests. > > Our new AM QSO party, being chaired by Gary Carter, is the only one open > to all hams. The other contests, including the 1929 QSO party, are open to > members only. > > The only reason you will find the dates of the QSO party on our web site > is that we had to correct the wrong dates that were accidentally sent to > the Journal and printed there. Frequencies, times, scoring info, etc are > in the Journal but never posted on the site for obvious reasons. > > Logs are sent out by contest chairman John Rollins only to previous > participants or members who are newly applying for them. > > Friends, this is a public service announcement only. I definitely don't > want to get involved in discussions about the right or wrong of this, nor > would it be appropriate for me to do so. Suffice it to say that John and > the AWA have very good reasons for restricting the contest , though I can > also see the other side of the questrion. > > Marc Ellis, N9EWJ > Editor, The AWA Journal > > > Article: 100843 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:49:26 -0500 "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message Hey Carl Let's see some photos of that Hartley rig!! Pete Article: 100844 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" References: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:24:16 -0600 "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:NfidnVS0VcHbUhXeRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > Will do when it is finished. I am using a mil surplus VT-127AZ. About the > oddest looking triode I have ever seen > > -- > Carl > WA1KPD > Visit My Boatanchor Collection at > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html Hi Carl. How have you been? Any other good vintage finds lately? -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 100845 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Orval Chadsey Subject: Re: Help on coaxial toggle switch References: <43610b3e$0$13357$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> Message-ID: <1I5if.2489$A23.2253@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:53:49 GMT Don Bowey wrote: > On 10/27/05 10:15 AM, in article > 43610b3e$0$13357$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it, "Antonio Vernucci" > wrote: > >> I got no answer to my question on the UK ham newsgroup, so I try here. >> >> Many years ago Lee Electronics (London, 400 Edgware Rd,) used to sell >> small coaxial switches labelled "Coaxial toggle switch". They consisted >> of a small nickel-plated brass cube bearing, on four of its faces, three >> UHF-type connectors and one small lever. Those were UK-made items. >> >> Since Lee Electronics closed down, I never saw those switches on sale >> anywhere. They are noy easy to search on Google. >> >> Does anyone know where to find them? >> >> Thanks in advance & 73. >> >> Tony I0JX > > Just in case you don't find what you are looking for: Dow-key makes nice > coaxial antenna relays, and many of them have an additional set of > contacts > that can be used for muting. I see eBay has bunch, many of which are new. > > Don check the ham radio magazines and dealers; they carry the manually switched coaxial switches. 73 Orval N6OZI Article: 100846 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: w4sef@bellsouth.net (Steve Fritts) Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... Message-ID: <43890bcf.37161687@newsgroups.bellsouth.net> References: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:30:16 GMT Thanks Chuck for the info on Swan. My dad bought me a 350 new in 1965 when I was 15 years old. Loved the radio even tho it did drift. I have one now and am having a blast working on it to modify and improve the drift problem that they all had. 73s Steve W4SEF On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:26:46 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: >I have a silly question about the Swan 350 antenna >loading switch. Did they mean for you to switch it >while the rig was keyed for tuning, or were you >supposed to unkey the rig before switching it? > >I've always assumed the later, but... > >-Chuck Article: 100847 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution References: <3G3if.2291$Y%5.161@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:46:54 GMT YT wrote: > >members only event > HA HA HA my ass! > No such thing on the ham bands. > That's right, any body can work any body else, but only AWA members can submit logs for scoring in the contest. Who cares about the score, get on the air and have FUN. 73, Ron Article: 100848 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "COLIN LAMB" References: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: <%O9if.1603$Hk1.721@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:34:19 GMT Hi Carl: The VT-127A is a good tube. It was a repackaged Eimac 100TL for radar use. Just more filament current. They were cheap after the war, but got sidetracked because the 304TL was also cheap and ran more power. Love to see a photo when you get done as I have a few sitting in storage that belong in a rig. 73, Colin K7FM Article: 100849 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <4389BC9C.1408A90D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <4F9hf.696$mJ2.4@trnddc02> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:03:16 GMT Ben Bradley wrote: > > While that's true (and several other companies have ceased selling > kits), it seems they never charged anywhere near what an "unassembled > Heathkit" sells for now (factoring in inflation), as they're more > properly called collector's items, rather than kits. > I've had the thought of having faceplates and chassis made, > assembling the parts and offering 'kits' of some of the more desirable > Heathkit models. Much of the work, the actual design and the writing > and debugging of the assembly manual, is already done for you. I'm > unlikely to actually do this myself, maybe some others can run with > it. > There may be some copyright problems with the manuals, as well as > possible legal problems with copying the design. Circa 1996 I called a > phone number for "the real Heathkit - the only place for legal Heath > manual copies, still covered by copyright" that I saw in some > magazine, asked about a couple manuals (transmission tube testor, $25 > at hamfest, metal dector $5 at yard sale), and they were $30 each. I > went ahead and got the tube tester manual. > But I wonder if there would be some interest in having boatanchor > 'kits' available of some specific models that might be popular. Such a > kit would likely cost more than a completed original can be bought > for, but I can imagine that some people would pay extra to be able to > build just one more "Heathkit." > At the prices they go for, true unassembled Heathkits are real > collector's items and are unlikely to be built, as that would destroy > their (dollar) value, at keast much more so than building a 'copy' > kit. This way, one could buy a 'kit' for its original purpose, to > build into a working product. > While selling such a kit may have legal hurdles with copyright and > copying the design, you can build your own for personal use with no > such problems. > > The OP wrote: > > >based on schematics and design > >principles that have gone into the public domain. > > Hmm, would this include the older (1950's) Heathkits, or has what > remains of Heath Company renewed the copyrights? > > >Lazy senior Why don't you ask them? They still sell educational materials, and at least recently were still supping kits of parts to vocational electronics schools. http://www.heathkit.com/ -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100850 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <4389BF72.4DE7C151@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <4F9hf.696$mJ2.4@trnddc02> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:15:21 GMT "David G. Nagel" wrote: > > No. They were very succussful until another company who's name starts > with a "Z" bought them out so that they could get a foothold in the home > computer business. They ("Z") left Heathkit to flounder without proper > finances until Heath closed. With proper finance and control a company > could succeed with out much trouble. There are several "kit" companies > out there that seem to be doing very well. > > Dave WD9BDZ According to trade journals at the time Zenith wanted to bid on a large computer contract with the US government, but they were not building computers yet. So, they bought Heathkit to get their existing government business, and to get the contract. I've scrapped some of the "XT clones" from that contract and they were a joke. Both the regular and the "Tempest" hardware. I still have some of their "Z DOS" manuals and the printed source code for the BIOS used in the computers. Zenith put the non Tempest version in the Heathkit stores, and a board was sold by a third party to let you run MSDOS software on the system. The I/O ports were in different locations >from the standard "XT" design and some of the BIOS calls were different so that the software written for regular "XT" computers wouldn't run on their design. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100851 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Date: 27 Nov 2005 15:52:15 GMT Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43852639$0$54816$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <4F9hf.696$mJ2.4@trnddc02> <4389BF72.4DE7C151@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" (mike.terrell@earthlink.net) writes: > "David G. Nagel" wrote: >> >> No. They were very succussful until another company who's name starts >> with a "Z" bought them out so that they could get a foothold in the home >> computer business. They ("Z") left Heathkit to flounder without proper >> finances until Heath closed. With proper finance and control a company >> could succeed with out much trouble. There are several "kit" companies >> out there that seem to be doing very well. >> >> Dave WD9BDZ > > > According to trade journals at the time Zenith wanted to bid on a > large computer contract with the US government, but they were not > building computers yet. So, they bought Heathkit to get their existing > government business, and to get the contract. > Whatever Zenith wanted to do with the company, I don't think it's that simple. Circa 1976, Heathkit had to recall a 2M transceiver (I think it was a handheld) because it was generating spurs, I think in the aero band. If I recall, it wasn't that it couldn't be a clean output, but that it couldn't be clean with the equipment the average ham had. So they called them in, and eventually came up with a new design. As times went by the equipment became more complicated. And then it became harder and harder to make them something that anyone could build. If in the fifties they'd sell a shortwave receiver kit with the coil slugs "pre-adjusted", a couple of decades later they'd be selling a kit that had some crucial circuitry in a preassembled module. Over that same period, they'd be selling tube gear that was well oriented towards hand wiring (so it made little difference whether it was wired in a factory or by the end user) to solid state devices on circuit boards. The latter was more conducive to automated manufacturing, and the moreso the more years that passed. So the cost of manufacturing went down (I got my DVD player two years ago for fifty dollars, and that is far more complicated a device than any Heathkit till at least the mid-seventies if not later), while the overhead of making something a kit stayed the same or more. Remember, Heathkit did not cater to the hobbyist, even if they were among the customers. Heathkits were intended to be built by anyone. And they were seen as a way of getting something a bit cheaper if you were willing to put some time into the project. As time went on, the automated manufacturing and one assumes overseas manufacturing lowered the cost of manufactured equipment. A color tv set was still a relatively major purchase forty years ago, while today if someone needs a tv set they just go out and buy it that day. There became less interest in building the kit except by a relative handful of the population. I would think the mass consumer items, the tv sets and the Boonie Bikes and such, helped to subsidize the amateur radio equipment. If Heath had to live off the profits from just the ham equipment, they wouldn't have lasted so many decades. But towards the end, they had really complicated equipment for sale to hams, and likely the "kit building" of those required less time by the builder than the old gear, and it was expensive. Heath had become less of a common name, and it seemed like the later catalogs were slimmer and less interesting than a couple of decades before. Combine all these, and the kit business as done by Heath couldn't survive. The kit companies that have come along since, they cater to a much more limited market. They cater to a hobbyist crowd, and while they may need handholding, one would hope not as much as someone walking in off the street who's never soldered and wants to save some money by building that color tv set. Heath spelled out everything in their manuals, while I suspect many of the more recent kit companies say things like "stuff the board, solder the components, and then turn it on" (not so brief, but not nearly as specific as Heath). That saves money. And if you sell products where the kit building is as important as the end project, ie a regen receiver kit where someone can have fun building it and can have fun playing with something new, but who doesn't expect to use it as a main receiver, then you are dealing with a different market than Heath, where they were selling the end items and they had to have a transceiver that was competitive with what everyone else was selling, be it the HW-100 in the late sixties or the Yaesu or Kenwood lookalike that was sold towards the end of the company's life. Michael VE2BVW Article: 100852 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution References: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> <%O9if.1603$Hk1.721@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:01:32 GMT COLIN LAMB wrote: >Hi Carl: > >The VT-127A is a good tube. It was a repackaged Eimac 100TL for radar use. >Just more filament current. They were cheap after the war, but got >sidetracked because the 304TL was also cheap and ran more power. > >Love to see a photo when you get done as I have a few sitting in storage >that belong in a rig. > >73, Colin K7FM > > > > I have a couple of 100xx also and some tunning capacitors and coils and transformers etc. I have been keeping these for an old time rig that probably will never get built. Anyone want to build a tube rig? I already have too many projects. Bill K7NOM Article: 100853 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Richard Reese Subject: FS: Heathkit Manuals Message-ID: <0cqjo1lld1m0iqcr7b3for5q7f57khn0an@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:15:44 GMT If you need Heathkit manuals please visit my website at www.gemair.com/~reser Regards, Dick Article: 100854 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike Andrews" Subject: Re: Astro-net from the 60s Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <9buhf.7283$id.6018@trnddc04> And that conclusion was? Gonna just leave us haning like that? In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Tom wrote: > You bet. They started out when some of the guys noticed brief point-source > bright flashes > on the lunar surface. Used 80m to time whether the flashes were synchronized > across > large observation distances. If they were not, then the flashes were likely > meteors in > the earth's atmosphere; if they were synchronized, then the probablility > that they were > associated with an event on the lunar surface was pretty high. > The guys had scopes setup in the backyard and 100-foot headphone/microphone > cables > going back to the radio so they could observe and talk on the radio > simultaneously. > They did reach a conclusion about the flashes.... > "Jeffrey Herman" wrote in message > news:dm3gng$hrl$1@news.hawaii.edu... >> "Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message >>> To be honest, I never felt comfortable on 75 meters, nor did I feel >>> that I fit in for the most part. There were groups, however, in which >>> I enjoyed participating, >> >> Anyone remember the Astro-Net on 3885 kc from the 1960s? It was composed >> of group of amateur astronomers who nightly trained their telescopes on a >> particular celestial object and would then have round-table comments >> about that object. It was fascinating to eavesdrop on that net. >> >> 73, Jeff KH6O >> -- >> Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard >> Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin Article: 100855 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... Date: 27 Nov 2005 20:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <43889061.5563078@newsgroups.bellsouth.net> Chuck Harris wrote: > >The Swan design was very competent, but very much driven by cost. >That said, it is sort of odd that they used the fancy, but expensive, >7360 balanced modulator tube. That's the sheet-beam tube? Those things actually reduced the cost of a design because they eliminated a whole slew of parts. Later on there were a bunch of cheap ones designed for chroma detectors in TV sets, but at first there was only one. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100856 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Date: 27 Nov 2005 20:36:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132806389.046102.142700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > wrote in message >news:1132806389.046102.142700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> 3) What I can think I can offer in gear > >As a market test, or "proof of concept," how about building a prototype and >posting some photos, along with schematic & specs, for folks on this forum >to look at? I want a small standalone QRP SSB transmitter based around one of the newer PLL chips. I want a row of five thumbwheel switches that I can set from say 500 KHz to 30 MHz, a switch to select USB, LSB, or CW, and maybe a watt or two out. THEN, I'd like just the PLL section out of it, to use as a VFO on older rigs. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100857 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heytubeguy" Subject: WTB: TRIPLETT 850 MANUAL Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:56:51 GMT Need manual/diagram etc. Copy OK Advise, tnx Joe heytubeguy@yahoo.com Article: 100858 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "jwb" Subject: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario never recived it.two months now. paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return calls or emails. beeware of david munro 220 paudash rd keene ontario canada kol-2go any ideas on how to pursue this further? thanks jack Article: 100859 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Diamond Dave Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:07:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT, "jwb" wrote: >bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario >never recived it.two months now. >paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >calls or emails. >beeware of >david munro >220 paudash rd >keene ontario canada >kol-2go >any ideas on how to pursue this further? >thanks jack Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. Article: 100860 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Wayne Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:50:20 -0600 Diamond Dave wrote: > Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay > them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. I hadn't heard anything about him for several months. I had assumed the Banditos had already been there. Wayne, KEØBZ Article: 100861 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: m II Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:03:15 GMT Diamond Dave wrote: > Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay > them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. I understand dxAce will do contract hits in Canada for thirty bucks (US) mike Article: 100862 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 06:02:50 GMT On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT, "jwb" wrote: >bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario never recived it.two >months now. >paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >calls or emails. >beeware of david munro >220 paudash rd >keene ontario canada >kol-2go >any ideas on how to pursue this further? >thanks jack Had a similar thing (a bounced check, actually) with a guy in another city in Ontario. I sent an email to the police chief in his city, who apparently called him and 'sorted it out' - I did eventually receive my money. As Keene seems to be a suburb of Peterborough, ON. you might try: ( http://www.peterboroughpolice.com/ ). YMMV of course. Good luck. Haggis. Article: 100863 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: D Peter Maus Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:23:36 GMT Diamond Dave wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT, "jwb" wrote: >> bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario >> never recived it.two months now. >> paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >> calls or emails. >> beeware of >> david munro >> 220 paudash rd >> keene ontario canada >> kol-2go >> any ideas on how to pursue this further? >> thanks jack > > Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay > them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. So, I'm guessing Halloween is particularly festive at your house? Article: 100864 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Woody" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:19:57 GMT It never ceases to amaze me how many times people come here to post "beware" messages but didn't take the time to search for them before blindly sending money to a stranger. Not that it's foolproof, but one search would have saved the trouble in this case, several times over. Sorry for your loss and wish you well in the recovery. Getting ripped sucks. rb "jwb" wrote in message news:Oruif.365898$084.11020@attbi_s22... > bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario > never recived it.two months now. > paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return > calls or emails. > beeware of > david munro > 220 paudash rd > keene ontario canada > kol-2go > any ideas on how to pursue this further? > thanks jack > Article: 100865 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Povertyhill" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:56:11 GMT Jack, the best advice is contact the local RCMP office in that area and ask how to file a complaint. Before you do make sure you have a copy of the postal money order showing that he cashed the money order. If you purchased the money order from the US Postal Service then you should also contact them regarding mail fraud. They may refer you to the Canadian postal service but who cares as long as you get someone to take action. Do not let it drop as someone else will get ripped off next. Let us know how you make out. "jwb" wrote in message news:Oruif.365898$084.11020@attbi_s22... > bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario > never recived it.two months now. > paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return > calls or emails. > beeware of > david munro > 220 paudash rd > keene ontario canada > kol-2go > any ideas on how to pursue this further? > thanks jack > Article: 100866 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: <1jFif.7236$G11.3808@fe07.lga> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:24:48 -0600 "Povertyhill" wrote in message news:L7Dif.3$6e.0@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > Jack, the best advice is contact the local RCMP office in that area and > ask how to file a complaint. Before you do make sure you have a copy of > the postal money order showing that he cashed the money order. If you > purchased the money order from the US Postal Service then you should also > contact them regarding mail fraud. They may refer you to the Canadian > postal service but who cares as long as you get someone to take action. Do > not let it drop as someone else will get ripped off next. Let us know how > you make out. > Doesn't matter. Several years ago I had a scumbag in Conn. rip me and I paid with US postal MO. The post office had me fill out papers etc.. They never did anything and I bugged em about it for two years, nothing! I went the whole wrought and reported it to Bridgeport police filed every complaint in the book, nothing. And they wonder why people take the law into their own hands. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 100867 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: hinkeydo Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario References: <1133189205.084262.214610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:36:48 GMT miso@sushi.com wrote: > I gather this was not an ebay deal. I never do any deals via mail on > used gear that doesn't have some sort of auction house in the middle. > There are plenty of jerks who read usenet, figure out what is a popular > item and then pretend to have one for sale. A DX394 or Sony 2010 would > be prime bait. > > > jwb wrote: > >>bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario >>never recived it.two months now. >>paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >>calls or emails. >>beeware of >>david munro >>220 paudash rd >>keene ontario canada >>kol-2go >>any ideas on how to pursue this further? >>thanks jack > > I've had trouble every time i deal with anyone in Canada. so i toook the simple route...dont deal with anyone outside the u.s. Article: 100868 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Diamond Dave Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:46:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5%wif.20931$7h7.18032@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:57:21 GMT, "fdfd" wrote: >Gather all evidence of the transaction. >Contact the RCMP in Canada and in Ontario >Province. They may go after him. Here's what Canadian authorities have told US victims in the past: you stupid Americans deserve whatever happens to you. Article: 100869 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: <1133189205.084262.214610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:51:43 GMT Huh... I have had bunches of dealings with Canucks. Well at least from Ontario. Every deal has been great. Good equipment, good deals - oddly enough all TMC gear. Great Hospitatlity, Heck, they even have a cool national anthem. I would say they are good neighbors indeed. One word of advice : NEVER drive through Toronto during any part of the day. It is constant grid lock. Any night you cant get from Ajax to Niagra at blazing speeds. I don't about Quebec though - I hear they are a little loopy there. "hinkeydo" wrote in message news:AmGif.25317$Zv5.18548@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > miso@sushi.com wrote: >> I gather this was not an ebay deal. I never do any deals via mail on >> used gear that doesn't have some sort of auction house in the middle. >> There are plenty of jerks who read usenet, figure out what is a popular >> item and then pretend to have one for sale. A DX394 or Sony 2010 would >> be prime bait. >> >> >> jwb wrote: >> >>>bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario >>>never recived it.two months now. >>>paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >>>calls or emails. >>>beeware of >>>david munro >>>220 paudash rd >>>keene ontario canada >>>kol-2go >>>any ideas on how to pursue this further? >>>thanks jack >> >> > I've had trouble every time i deal with anyone in Canada. so i toook the > simple route...dont deal with anyone outside the u.s. Article: 100870 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Terry" References: <1133190021.118001.264270@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:38:58 -0330 "RHF" wrote in message news:1133190021.118001.264270@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >M II - I understand that 'you' Kill Baby Seals for Free ~ RHF > . > . > . . It has been illegal (and there is therefore no market anyway) to kill baby seals for many years now. However organisations such as the IFFAW still use 'old footage' (Well, of animals anyway) cos Bridgette Bardot, once pictured cuddling a wild live seal pup, is much older today! For fund raising. And the debate continues, despite millions of seals on the North East coast of North America each year. Less depleted than the once plentiful North American buffalo are now. For fishing peoples the seal 'fishery' was once an essential part of surviving through the end of the harsh winter season. It was an intensely dangerous activity that could bring in some, often essential, income at a critical time of year, before fishing could be recommenced. It was 'prosecuted' as the expression used to be, typically out of New England, Nova Scotia Canada and from Newfoundland (now part of Canada) and Greenland etc. With the debate/controversy, fact/fiction? about 'Global warming' it may become less common. If global warming is true, without sea ice on which seals can 'pup' (i.e. give birth their young) vast seal numbers will decrease. Kinda unkind to be drowned at birth eh? In the last few years good quality seal pelts have risen in demand and in price. Some people who live in cold wet, icy climates prefer sealskin clothing in preference to say, less waterproof, sheepskin/leather. But sealskin is also used for very fashionable items. And for durability; one will rarely wear out a sealskin hat or boots, for example. Beware of misleading (anti-sealing) advertising! To paraphrase Hitler; who once said "To tell a lie. Tell a big one and tell it often". The sealing season is brief and highly regulated. My late neighbour VO1HI, also a licensed marine radio operator, once took part of his vacation as radio operator on one of the traditional style sealing vessels which went to the ice 'front' to get seals pelts, seal carcass meat and 'flippers' which properly prepared are still considered a delicacy in certain areas. Article: 100871 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:53 -0500 That is reasonable enough to erase his entire family tree for a few hundred bucks. That would be fairly effective assurance that the problem won't grow any larger from his gene pool. "m II" wrote in message news:ncwif.216889$ir4.116930@edtnps90... > Diamond Dave wrote: > >> Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they >> do, pay >> them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. > > > I understand dxAce will do contract hits in Canada for thirty bucks (US) > > > > > > mike Article: 100872 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:24:40 GMT "jwb" wrote in message news:Oruif.365898$084.11020@attbi_s22... > bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario > never recived it.two months now. > paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return > calls or emails. > beeware of > david munro > 220 paudash rd > keene ontario canada > kol-2go > any ideas on how to pursue this further? > thanks jack > There's a website devoted to this alleged scammer: http://scammerdave.com/ -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 100873 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" Subject: FREE for S.H. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:42:46 -0600 Hi guys. I've been digging threough my junk and found a good botton plate to a Howard 435A with the Schematic still in tact. If anybody wants it let me know. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 100874 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: FREE for S.H. Message-ID: <0wNif.2442$1x.508@fed1read06> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:45:08 -0500 "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:SBMif.11055$Fq3.1718@fe02.lga... > Hi guys. I've been digging threough my junk and found a good botton plate to > a Howard 435A with the Schematic still in tact. If anybody wants it let me > know. > > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > You'd better keep digging. If it's like my cellar, the rest of radio can't be too far behind!!!! :) Pete Article: 100875 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Woody" References: <1jFif.7236$G11.3808@fe07.lga> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:04:19 GMT LOL, you're correct.... it really doesn't matter. Had a rockhead try to take me for $3500 outta NY a while back... deal over the internet, cert. bank check, and it went from local cops to county to state to Atty. General to United States Postal Inspectors.... last thing I remember being told by the trusty Package-Police... "You must realize we have million-dollar frauds on our desk, but we will look into it as soon as possible." and as far as I know, it's still on his desk.... I gave up on the system [will never use it again] and just hounded/tracked/harrassed/called/fax-bombed/email-bombed the living crap outta him, his neighbors and everyone he knew for nearly a year straight, and finally someone had enough and gave up one of their wives and where they worked.....and I called there. WOW.... I had my money coming back to me in timely payments over about 4 months and even got a couple hundred for the "trouble". [it all came in money orders from different people and places, but who's complaining...] Something about losing his Correctional Officer job and her job with Ingersoll-Rand just lit a fire under it. Maybe one day I'll even let the package-police know what happened. Almost 2 years lost, screwing around with morons. Puerto-Rican mafia morons no less. [no offense to PR in general] The system only works for the few, and only in a 'right place/right time' manner. Wish him luck! rb "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:1jFif.7236$G11.3808@fe07.lga... > > "Povertyhill" wrote in message > news:L7Dif.3$6e.0@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... >> Jack, the best advice is contact the local RCMP office in that area and >> ask how to file a complaint. Before you do make sure you have a copy of >> the postal money order showing that he cashed the money order. If you >> purchased the money order from the US Postal Service then you should also >> contact them regarding mail fraud. They may refer you to the Canadian >> postal service but who cares as long as you get someone to take action. >> Do not let it drop as someone else will get ripped off next. Let us know >> how you make out. >> > > Doesn't matter. Several years ago I had a scumbag in Conn. rip me and I > paid with US postal MO. The post office had me fill out papers etc.. They > never did anything and I bugged em about it for two years, nothing! I went > the whole wrought and reported it to Bridgeport police filed every > complaint in the book, nothing. And they wonder why people take the law > into their own hands. > > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > Brian's Basement > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm > > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > Article: 100876 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Bob Miller Subject: Re: fresh boatanchors, anyone? Message-ID: References: <1132791142.352259.260530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132807589.533812.230720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133186808.228836.44870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:23:22 GMT On 28 Nov 2005 06:06:48 -0800, shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: >> I think a fully loaded multiband fresh >> boatanchor should sell quite nicely for >> $199.95 it if offers compareable features. > >Wow, pie-in-the-sky pricing! > >My guess is that if you wanted to replicate a mid-60's vintage Swan 350 >from scratch (but using actually obtainable final tubes rather than >sweep tubes) you'd be looking at several tens of thousands of dollars >in up-front tooling and it'd cost about $2000 or $2500 for each one you >produce. > >They listed for $420 (just for the rig, add on more than a hundred more >for VOX, speaker, power supply) in 1965. They had a good run, and a >decade later were being offered (with some updates) about a decade >later when they stopped selling them because at that price hardly >anyone was buying them. What makes you think that the sheet metal, >transformers, parts, etc. are going to be cheaper today? > >Producing it in China might let you sell it at a less-than-$2000 price >point. > >If you're looking to do a Collins-class rig, you'll never get the extra >$ for the effort because it's still "not a Collins", and even at >overinflated E-bay prices the Collins rigs will still be cheaper. > >Tim. I recall 3 or 4 years ago, some outfit or guy in Paris, Texas was selling a newly manufactured Globe King 500 for about $7500 -- with money paid in advance before building the rig. They ran a few ads in QST, then I never saw anything of the rig again. Bob k5qwg Article: 100877 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: bg998@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Martin Potter) Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Date: 29 Nov 2005 02:47:54 GMT Message-ID: References: <1133189205.084262.214610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> hinkeydo (hinkeydo@sbcglobal.net) writes: > > I've had trouble every time i deal with anyone in Canada. so i toook > the simple route...dont deal with anyone outside the u.s. Sorry that you have had such bad luck. Please be assured that we are not all like that up here. 73, ... Martin VE3OAT Article: 100878 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Bernie Murphy" References: <1133189205.084262.214610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:45:29 -0500 There are bad guys everywhere -- Canada is no exception. The way to handle this case is to send the person a registered letter and indicate that if he does not respond, you will report him to the Fraud Division of the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP). That should wake him up a bit! Have a look at: http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Victims/reporting.htm 73, Bernie, Ottawa, Canada "YT" wrote in message news:PsHif.2574$nA2.92@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... > > Huh... I have had bunches of dealings with Canucks. > Well at least from Ontario. Every deal has been great. > Good equipment, good deals - oddly enough all TMC gear. > Great Hospitatlity, > Heck, they even have a cool national anthem. > I would say they are good neighbors indeed. > One word of advice : NEVER drive through Toronto during any part of the > day. It is constant grid lock. > Any night you cant get from Ajax to Niagra at blazing speeds. > > I don't about Quebec though - I hear they are a little loopy there. > > > > > > > "hinkeydo" wrote in message > news:AmGif.25317$Zv5.18548@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... >> miso@sushi.com wrote: >>> I gather this was not an ebay deal. I never do any deals via mail on >>> used gear that doesn't have some sort of auction house in the middle. >>> There are plenty of jerks who read usenet, figure out what is a popular >>> item and then pretend to have one for sale. A DX394 or Sony 2010 would >>> be prime bait. >>> >>> >>> jwb wrote: >>> >>>>bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario >>>>never recived it.two months now. >>>>paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >>>>calls or emails. >>>>beeware of >>>>david munro >>>>220 paudash rd >>>>keene ontario canada >>>>kol-2go >>>>any ideas on how to pursue this further? >>>>thanks jack >>> >>> >> I've had trouble every time i deal with anyone in Canada. so i toook the >> simple route...dont deal with anyone outside the u.s. > > Article: 100879 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" Subject: Latest EBAY Joke Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:10:47 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/Signal-Corps-Radio-Receiver-Shortwave-Ham_W0QQitemZ6583582308QQcategoryZ585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 100880 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: FS: Collins 516F-2WE Power Supply "Cabinet" From: "Hamkey" Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:42:02 +0800 Message-ID: <1133239533_40411@spool6-east.superfeed.net> Mint Condition !! Like New !! http://www.hamkey.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=20 ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 100881 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike Andrews" Subject: Re: A good Halli story, a warning, and a need. Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1133238246.456048.327670@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> tchrme wrote: > Hello all, > I hope someone can help me on this one. So the story goes....last > night I pulled a rusty tuning cap sub chassis from a Halli S19R. > Cleanup up really nice. When I went to remount the tuning cap, snap go > the threaded shafts that go from the bottom of the cap to the sub > chassis. Brittle doesn't even describe them. I was being careful. The > feeling I had was close to the feeling one gets when cleaning an old > glass dial and wiping away the markings. I went online and found out > that the name of those screw goodies is a spade bolt and a co. that > sells them has a min order of $40 for 100. (I need 3). They consist of > a 6-32 threaded shaft about 1/2 in long and a flat top that spreads out > alittle (where the flat goes lengthwise to the screw thread) with a > hole in it to rivet to the var. cap. By any stretch of the imagination > does anyone have any of these gems that I can purchase from you or know > a source to refer me to? Thanks in advance, Mike KF6KXG _Ouch_! I have seen these in hardware stores from time to time; you might look in your area. If you don't find them, then J&E Fastener on SE 59th St. in Oklahoma City has an enormous inventory, and I've never come away >from there without the fastener I was looking for. They do have a minimum order of $10.00, so you might as well stock up on other stuff when you place the order. They're in the phone book and have a web site, too: . J & E Supply & Fastener Co., Inc. 1903 S.E. 59th Street Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73129 Local: (405) 670-1234 Toll Free: (800) 677-7922 Fax: (405) 672-7756 E-Mail:Sales@jandesupply.com I don't even know people there; my only connection is that I go there when I need something, give them money, and walk away happy. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin Article: 100882 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "IonSpot" Subject: Collins Enema Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:48:45 GMT Anyone with a CCA rating of 7 or better needs this immediately: http://cgi.ebay.com/Collins-Radio-Enema_W0QQitemZ5835640003QQcategoryZ15050QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 100883 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: Collins Enema Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:00:01 GMT Wow, perfect for the tight asses in CCA. I understand the company is also coming out with a slightly cracked douche bag. "IonSpot" wrote in message news:xeXif.64$f41.25@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > Anyone with a CCA rating of 7 or better needs this immediately: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Collins-Radio-Enema_W0QQitemZ5835640003QQcategoryZ15050QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 100884 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: Subject: Re: Latest EBAY Joke Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:21:34 GMT Perhaps the seller had a convulsion as he entered the price and added two extra digits to the price? "YT" wrote in message news:bxQif.3050$Y%5.1291@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Signal-Corps-Radio-Receiver-Shortwave-Ham_W0QQitemZ6583582308QQcategoryZ585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 100885 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Subject: Re: A good Halli story, a warning, and a need. From: k5dh@raytheon.com (-=H=-) References: <1133238246.456048.327670@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:31:33 GMT Mike, Heath used spade bolts in many of their tube rigs. I may have some in my parts bin. Let me look and let you know. If I have some, I'll send 'em to you for nothing. 73, Dean K5DH In article <1133238246.456048.327670@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, tchrme@aol.com says... > >Hello all, > I hope someone can help me on this one. So the story goes....last >night I pulled a rusty tuning cap sub chassis from a Halli S19R. >Cleanup up really nice. When I went to remount the tuning cap, snap go >the threaded shafts that go from the bottom of the cap to the sub >chassis. Brittle doesn't even describe them. I was being careful. The >feeling I had was close to the feeling one gets when cleaning an old >glass dial and wiping away the markings. I went online and found out >that the name of those screw goodies is a spade bolt and a co. that >sells them has a min order of $40 for 100. (I need 3). They consist of >a 6-32 threaded shaft about 1/2 in long and a flat top that spreads out >alittle (where the flat goes lengthwise to the screw thread) with a >hole in it to rivet to the var. cap. By any stretch of the imagination >does anyone have any of these gems that I can purchase from you or know >a source to refer me to? Thanks in advance, Mike KF6KXG > Article: 100886 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: Latest EBAY Joke Message-ID: <8YZif.2133$4o7.776@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:53:56 GMT Nope, he's a moron ot at least hoping to hook one. Look at one of his other auctions : http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Galvin-Frequency-Modulation-Receiver-Shortwave_W0QQitemZ5836149355QQcategoryZ4673QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem "John, N9JG" wrote in message news:yBYif.609223$xm3.608201@attbi_s21... > Perhaps the seller had a convulsion as he entered the price and added two > extra digits to the price? > > "YT" wrote in message > news:bxQif.3050$Y%5.1291@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Signal-Corps-Radio-Receiver-Shortwave-Ham_W0QQitemZ6583582308QQcategoryZ585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > > Article: 100887 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Smokey" Subject: Trade only: Have EV 664, want EV 666 mike Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:11:51 -0600 Message-ID: <11ooveeibhaqo5f@corp.supernews.com> I have an Electro Voice 664 microphone with its original desk stand in excellent condition. Am interested in swapping only for an Electro Voice 666 with or without its desk stand. Smokey Article: 100888 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: Trade only: Have EV 664, want EV 666 mike Date: 29 Nov 2005 11:26:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <11ooveeibhaqo5f@corp.supernews.com> Smokey wrote: >I have an Electro Voice 664 microphone with its original desk stand in >excellent condition. Am interested in swapping only for an Electro Voice 666 >with or without its desk stand. I hate to tell you this, but the 666 is worth a _lot_ more money than a 664. Like by a factor of ten. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100889 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "David G. Nagel" Subject: Re: Latest EBAY Joke References: <8YZif.2133$4o7.776@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:14:20 GMT YT wrote: > Nope, he's a moron ot at least hoping to hook one. > > Look at one of his other auctions : > http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Galvin-Frequency-Modulation-Receiver-Shortwave_W0QQitemZ5836149355QQcategoryZ4673QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > "John, N9JG" wrote in message > news:yBYif.609223$xm3.608201@attbi_s21... > >>Perhaps the seller had a convulsion as he entered the price and added two >>extra digits to the price? >> >>"YT" wrote in message >>news:bxQif.3050$Y%5.1291@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... >> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/Signal-Corps-Radio-Receiver-Shortwave-Ham_W0QQitemZ6583582308QQcategoryZ585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>> >> >> > > Hay! I used to have one of those. It's a Motorola VHF Police receiver. They used to be called "Bread Box" radios since that's what they looked like. I paid $50.00 for mine at a hamfest about 40 years ago. Threw it out even though it was still working. Dave N Article: 100890 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" References: <0wNif.2442$1x.508@fed1read06> Subject: Re: FREE for S.H. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:12:13 -0600 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:0wNif.2442$1x.508@fed1read06... > > "Brian Hill" wrote in message > news:SBMif.11055$Fq3.1718@fe02.lga... >> Hi guys. I've been digging threough my junk and found a good botton plate > to >> a Howard 435A with the Schematic still in tact. If anybody wants it let >> me >> know. >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards >> B.H. >> >> > > You'd better keep digging. If it's like my cellar, the rest of radio can't > be too > far behind!!!! :) > > Pete > > You got a point Pete. :) BH Article: 100891 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" References: <%0Pif.1889$YT3.1728@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: FREE for S.H. Message-ID: <427jf.6921$7p7.4922@fe06.lga> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:14:43 -0600 "COLIN LAMB" wrote in message news:%0Pif.1889$YT3.1728@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > My first commercial radio was a Howard 435A. And, it came without a > bottom plate. > > Your offer is 45 years too late. > > The paint was crap, so I repainted it red. I still have nighmares over > that. It may have been the worst thing I have ever done. Do not ever > paint a radio red. > > Colin K7FM > LOL. We forgive you Colin. PS If my time machine works out I'll drop it by your old house. :) -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 100892 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "wb5cys" Subject: WTB: National Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:55:54 GMT I am looking for a good condition National NC-190 and/or a good condition National NC-270 receiver. If you have anything you want to get rid of or if you have any leads I sure would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks! WB5CYS Article: 100893 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Message-ID: <438D3780.2733BBE1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Latest EBAY Joke References: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:24:25 GMT Dave Edwards wrote: > > That's the kind of thing you find at hamfests....after everyone has left!!! > > "YT" wrote in message > news:bxQif.3050$Y%5.1291@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Signal-Corps-Radio-Receiver-Shortwave-Ham_W0QQitemZ6583582308QQcategoryZ585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Not me! They used to slip stuff like that into the back of my step van when i wasn't looking. On the other hand, I will admit to picking up over a ton of old power and audio transformers after a Dayton hamfest in the early '80s. I sorted out the junk and stripped it for copper, but I saved a few good cores to wind new transformers. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 100894 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:24:38 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <69276$438d53b8$4232bd1a$25992@COQUI.NET> eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > All, > > I don't know if I am grounding my station correctly. You should probably connect the rig (chassis/cabinet) to your ground system somehow. Is there a grounding lug provision on the rear of the chassis itself? 3-wire cord should do the trick - *IF* your trailer electrical ground is connected to its frame, etc. -Bill Article: 100895 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Roger Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Message-ID: References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:41:43 -0500 On 29 Nov 2005 21:47:59 -0800, eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: >All, > >I don't know if I am grounding my station correctly. Years ago I had a FT101B try to kill me. I had the system grounded, but it was a minimal ground. The transceiver was about 50 feet to the East of the service entrance ground. The coax tied to a 40 meter vertical out into he west yard which was about 100 feet to the west of the service entrance. There was a single ground round and a number of bare #10 radials tied to the ground rod. It was spring, the snow had melted and the ground was wet and soggy. One of the radials had come loose and curled up around the base of the antenna, so I picked it up, pulled it straight, bent a kink in the end to stick in the ground. I knelt down to stick that end in the ground. When my knees touched the wet ground that sucker didn't tickle, it grabbed me and held on *really* tight. I fell backwards and when I went over backwards my knees broke contact. I threw that wire as hard as I could under the circumstances. I brought out my Simpson 260, stuck one probe in the ground about 6 inches out from the ground rod under the vertical and stuck the other probe in as far out as I could reach. I measured 90 volts with that VOM across about 5 or 6 feet of wet top soil. A close inspection turned up a liberal solder joint at the power connector on the back of the rig (inside) which under the right conditions could contact the chassis. The cord was one of the un polarized type. It passed plenty of current, but not enough to trip the breaker. (this was before the days of GFIs) I removed a bit of solder and never had another problem with the rig. Actually, I'd like to find another, nice, clean, FT101B to recreate my old station, but I'll never forget that one. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com > >The radials of my 20m vertical are connected to my trailer's electrical >system ground rod. My coax shield is connected both to the radials and >the ground rod. I plug my antenna into the Yaesu and turn it on. I >can hear stations just fine, and I have no problems touching the >chassis. However, the instant I disconnected the antenna but hang onto >the coax, I got a mild shock on both arms if I should momentarily >touch the chassis of the Yaesu. So, I understand I have a problem. > >Now I noticed that the Yaesu uses a 2-prong AC cord adapter, which is >"before code" and therefore is unsafe by today's standards. If I >rewrire the AC cord to 3-prong, should that remove the hazard? If so, >what pinout do I use? The FT-101 Shop service manual does not list >where positive, negative, and neutral should be on the Yaesu power >plug.in Figure 1-2. > >Thanks, > >The Eternal Squire > >P.S. I hope I have not long-term defibrillated myself. Should I visit >a hospital for cardiac system damage even if the shock was mild? I now >realize that I probably could have been killed. Right now I have >everything unplugged and disconnected until I can get better advice. Article: 100896 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: Trade only: Have EV 664, want EV 666 mike Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:18:32 -0600 Message-ID: <11or9m7ftfrmn0e@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ooveeibhaqo5f@corp.supernews.com> I am quite aware of that, Scott. It is entirely feasible that someone just happens to want a 664 and would swap a 666 with some additional cash. "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message news:dmhvfu$hcf$1@panix2.panix.com... > Smokey wrote: > >I have an Electro Voice 664 microphone with its original desk stand in > >excellent condition. Am interested in swapping only for an Electro Voice 666 > >with or without its desk stand. > > I hate to tell you this, but the 666 is worth a _lot_ more money than > a 664. Like by a factor of ten. > --scott > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100897 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Heytubeguy" Subject: FA: Tubes: 811A, 572B,6V6Y,45+stuff.... Message-ID: <3oijf.197325$zb5.134336@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:09:03 GMT Have these tubes listed + other stuff and others coming as well. Tnx for looking and 'Merry Christmas to all': http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZheytubeguy 73 heytubeguy, Joe Article: 100898 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Date: 30 Nov 2005 09:43:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> wrote: > >I don't know if I am grounding my station correctly. > >The radials of my 20m vertical are connected to my trailer's electrical >system ground rod. My coax shield is connected both to the radials and >the ground rod. I plug my antenna into the Yaesu and turn it on. I >can hear stations just fine, and I have no problems touching the >chassis. However, the instant I disconnected the antenna but hang onto >the coax, I got a mild shock on both arms if I should momentarily >touch the chassis of the Yaesu. So, I understand I have a problem. So, DON'T DO THAT. > >Now I noticed that the Yaesu uses a 2-prong AC cord adapter, which is >"before code" and therefore is unsafe by today's standards. If I >rewrire the AC cord to 3-prong, should that remove the hazard? If so, >what pinout do I use? The FT-101 Shop service manual does not list >where positive, negative, and neutral should be on the Yaesu power >plug.in Figure 1-2. A three-prong plug will make the radio safe, but in fact as long as the radio is plugged into the antenna, it's already safely grounded by the anntena system. A three-prong plug will make it meet code, though. BUT, the real problem is that you have current leaking to chassis, and your chassis has become hot. Look for an AC line filter or some ceramic disc capacitors between the AC line and the chassis, used to keep RF out of the power line (and out of the radio). It will be leaky. Replace it, even if you think it's good. >P.S. I hope I have not long-term defibrillated myself. Should I visit >a hospital for cardiac system damage even if the shock was mild? I now >realize that I probably could have been killed. Right now I have >everything unplugged and disconnected until I can get better advice. Keep your left hand in your pocket next time. The thing about electrical injuries is that there is really nothing doctors can do. When there is damage due to electrical power, cells become elongated and the cell membranes break down. As this process continues, the cell membranes break, the resistance of the tissue drops, and more and more current flows. All the doctors can see is the surface burn, they can't tell how bad the tissue damage is. So even in the case of very serious electrical injury, the normal procedure is basically to wait and see how much tissue dies. RF burns really terrify doctors, because they look like serious electrical burns but have little or no actual tissue damage (due to skin effect). So they look a lot worse than they really are. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 100899 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: zateslo@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Ted Zateslo) Subject: Re: Swan 350 Loading... Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1133270951.619869.109730@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article , Chuck Harris wrote: > >ARRL published a circuit using it in many of their handbooks from the >'60s. And I have heard that it was used in TV applications, but the >part that surprises me is I have only seen one type, the 7360. If it >was such a commonly used tube, it surely would exist in a non industrial >numbered version (eg. 6ZZ9, or some such). Chuck, There was never a pin-for-pin "entertainment" version of the 7360, but there were a few functionally-equivalent types, the 6AR8, 6JH8, and maybe another (6M-something) I can't remember. They could be used in the same circuits as the 7360, and they were cheaper as they were made in much larger numbers (Zenith used the 6JH8 in color-TV demodulator circuits). And they were used in ham gear too -- my old Swan 260 "Cygnet" used a 6JH8 as the balanced mod. These tubes did make great balanced modulators, and nice receiver mixers too. Ted Zateslo, W1XO Article: 100900 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Mike" Subject: Knight kit info needed..... Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:29:48 -0600 Message-ID: I need a manual (or copy) of a manual for the Knight KG-650 RF signal generator. I'm restoring some of my old Knight test equipment (I've got plenty) and need the schematic and alignment info for it. Can anyone help? BAMA says they have a schematic for it but I haven't been able to download it and don't believe it's there anymore. Thanks for the help. ..........Mike, WA5MOE. Article: 100901 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "YT" References: <438CE126.36EB57F6@shaw.ca> <1133328510.247632.279040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Collins Enema Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:15:21 GMT > High tech successor to the Wouff Houng? Hmmm. The Wouff Hong was for beating the crap out of someone. The Collins Enema makes you crap at will Seems like ham radio is just full of crap! HI Article: 100902 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "John, N9JG" References: <438D3780.2733BBE1@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Latest EBAY Joke Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:38:54 GMT How come the bidders' identities are secret? Does that add more allure to the product, like maybe the CIA might be bidding? "de Mac" wrote in message news:de.Mac.1zbw5k@news.radiobanter.com... > > heck > > did you see the crudy SX 28 A > > seller was asking a buy it now price of over 1,100 dollars > > along with big spy radio hype, seller just stoped short of > saying this very receiver was used at Bletchley Park, > > de mac > > > -- > de Mac Article: 100903 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Latest EBAY Joke Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:02:01 -0500 Wow, Motorola doghouses are worth THAT much? I remember using one of the TXs in a repeater back in the sixties! Pete Article: 100904 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:18:48 -0500 wrote in message news:1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > All, > > I If the radio has bypass caps on the line to chassis, and many do, you can develop sixty or so volts AC from chassis to ground because the two caps form a voltage divider. Measure the DC resistance between each of the power lugs to the chassis, you should see infinite resistance. Don't relay on the coax shell to provide a safety ground, you're only going to end up getting knocked on your butt repeatedly when working on the rig. The best bet is a three wire cord with safety ground. Pete Article: 100905 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: "Brian Hill" References: <1133390327.690101.281010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:13:35 -0600 wrote in message news:1133390327.690101.281010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Amazing, this guy is still up to his old tricks. Same address, same > name, same MO. > > He ripped me several years ago for a Uniden 2510. If theres so many, you should all form a club and go vacation in Canada next summer, right on his lawn and make him pay for the trip. :) -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 100906 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Ron Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Date: 01 Dec 2005 01:29:58 EST Message-ID: <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I believe the important thing here is that a three wire plug be used and that it gets wired correctly. I will never see why the neutral which is grounded and green wire which is ground cannot be tied together. The key here is that the plug can not get reversed like it could with the two wire plug so getting hot AC on the chassis can never happen. If the socket is miswired than as soon as you plug in your radio with the green and neutral tied together your main fuse will blow. I sure would like to know what certain wiring failure modes could energize the chassis ? Ground is Ground period. If the original two wire plug would have been polarized in the very beginning I expect that three wire plug would have never happened. Chuck Harris wrote: > eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > >> This is indeed the case for the FT-101E whose schematic I just >> examined. What I did was remove the 2-wire cord, and then connect a >> 3-wire cord where plus and minus hot were in former locations, then >> soldered the neutral wire of the cord to the plug's ground pin. Hope >> that would work. The voltage divider effect bears out in the fact that >> my original exposure to the AC was not immediately fatal. >> >> I think from now on, I should NEVER operate a rig powered by a 2 wire >> cord.... I should always replace with 3-wire on general principles. >> >> The Eternal Squire >> > > NO! Don't do that! The hot goes to the + hot, and the neutral goes > to the - hot, and the green wire goes to the chassis. > > Never, never, never connect the neutral and the green wire together! > (Did I mention never?) > > The only place in the whole house where that is supposed to happen is > in the service panel where the power comes into the house. Everywhere > else, it must remain separate. The bond wire (green) is purely for > safety. It saves your butt when currents accidentally leak out to > the chassis. If you have the bond connected to the neutral side of the > powerline, it can energize the chassis in certain wiring failure modes. > > Please don't leave it that way, save some poor soul's bacon, and go back > and fix it correctly. > > Thanks, > > -Chuck Article: 100907 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: user@domain.invalid Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Date: 01 Dec 2005 01:30:25 EST Message-ID: <438E9994.6040001@domain.invalid> References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I believe the important thing here is that a three wire plug be used and that it gets wired correctly. I will never see why the neutral which is grounded and green wire which is ground cannot be tied together. The key here is that the plug can not get reversed like it could with the two wire plug so getting hot AC on the chassis can never happen. If the socket is miswired than as soon as you plug in your radio with the green and neutral tied together your main fuse will blow. I sure would like to know what certain wiring failure modes could energize the chassis ? Ground is Ground period. If the original two wire plug would have been polarized in the very beginning I expect that three wire plug would have never happened. Chuck Harris wrote: > eternalsquire@comcast.net wrote: > >> This is indeed the case for the FT-101E whose schematic I just >> examined. What I did was remove the 2-wire cord, and then connect a >> 3-wire cord where plus and minus hot were in former locations, then >> soldered the neutral wire of the cord to the plug's ground pin. Hope >> that would work. The voltage divider effect bears out in the fact that >> my original exposure to the AC was not immediately fatal. >> >> I think from now on, I should NEVER operate a rig powered by a 2 wire >> cord.... I should always replace with 3-wire on general principles. >> >> The Eternal Squire >> > > NO! Don't do that! The hot goes to the + hot, and the neutral goes > to the - hot, and the green wire goes to the chassis. > > Never, never, never connect the neutral and the green wire together! > (Did I mention never?) > > The only place in the whole house where that is supposed to happen is > in the service panel where the power comes into the house. Everywhere > else, it must remain separate. The bond wire (green) is purely for > safety. It saves your butt when currents accidentally leak out to > the chassis. If you have the bond connected to the neutral side of the > powerline, it can energize the chassis in certain wiring failure modes. > > Please don't leave it that way, save some poor soul's bacon, and go back > and fix it correctly. > > Thanks, > > -Chuck Article: 100908 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:15:44 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133412734.124681.311830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <438E9978.9090709@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <27327$438ea323$4232bd28$17350@COQUI.NET> Ron wrote: > and neutral tied together your main fuse will blow. I sure would like to > know what certain wiring failure modes could energize the chassis ? > Ground is Ground period. No, not really. You're thinking like an electrician saying the chassis is energized. That can happen too in a failure mode but the original poster's gist was that he got that normal low ma bite that one gets when one creates different ground points as opposed to a common ground. The answer here is to tie the grounds together as short as possible. Of course the OP is going to get a tingle when his rig is 'grounded' only via the AC with inherent leakage of caps/yadda/yadda versus his external antenna/trailer ground. Thats normal. Sorry to belabour but this has been addressed in most every electronic publication since electricity was 'invented'. I could ground all my stuff to the hilt but you would have to pay me to pound a separate ground rod and lick my fingers and put my hand between the rig and the new rod. Ground ISNT ground unless they are at the same potential. If OP wants a no-bite situation he should visualize the ground path via his coax versus the radio ground via the trailer AC wiring. Until the two are essentially the same a difference in potential exists. -Bill Article: 100909 of rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors From: Roger Subject: Re: getting bit by my FT-101EE chassis Message-ID: <2ffto1p3bqitr51cth48ohj8bnssd0aii1@4ax.com> References: <1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 04:10:44 -0500 On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:18:48 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > > wrote in message >news:1133329679.320807.49090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> All, >> >> I > >If the radio has bypass caps on the line to chassis, and many do, you can >develop sixty or so volts AC from chassis to ground because the two >caps form a voltage divider. Measure the DC resistance between each >of the power lugs to the chassis, you should see infinite resistance. >Don't relay on the coax shell to provide a safety ground, you're only going >to end up getting knocked on your butt repeatedly when working on the >rig. The best bet is a three wire cord with safety ground. Yup, as I said when in the earlier post where my FT101B tried to kill me with a bare copper wire tied to a ground rod. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com > >Pete > Roger