20070121.ba v03_n997.bam.20070121 >From ???@??? Sun Jan 21 00:51:45 2007 -0600 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:58:56 GMT From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 3997 Message-Id: <20070121055902.BC5EB3183BF@srvr1.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 3997 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Tunable Hum by "JAMES HANLON" 2) Canadian 1943 Vee nickel by "Herbert M. Rosenthal" 3) Re: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel by Deane McIntyre 4) Fwd: CBS color wheel/a forward from Scott by 5) Re: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel by "K0DAN" 6) Mute circuits by 7) Re: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel by "Tom Rauch" 8) Re: CBS color wheel/a forward from Scott by Tom Norris 9) Re: Fwd: CBS color wheel/a forward from Scott by stuck in 50s 10) LOL!!! The QRS Song by "David Stinson" 11) FLASH! KSM on 4Mc by Richard Dillman 12) Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc by Jack Harper 13) Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc by "David Stinson" 14) Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc by David Hollander 15) KSM Flash by "Herbert M. Rosenthal" 16) Re: GB> Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc by "Larry WA9VRH" 17) Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc by john 18) Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc by 19) Boatanchors in the Movies: "The Children of the Night" by Edward Knobloch 20) Speaking of boat anchors in the movies by Buzz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: From: "JAMES HANLON" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Tunable Hum Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:15:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016A_01C73B56.7A1D3830" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016A_01C73B56.7A1D3830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Allow me to quote from the 1944 ARRL Handbook, pages 135-6, discussing = Regenerative Detectors. "House wiring, if of the "open" type, will have a rather extensive = electrostatic field which may cause hum if the detector tube, grid leak, = and grid condenser and leak are not electrostatically shielded. This = type of hum is easily recognizable because of its rather high pitch, a = result of harmonics in the power-supply system. The hum is caused by a = species of grid modulation. "Antenna resonance effects frequently cause a hum of the same nature as = that just described which is most intense at the various resonance = points, and hence varies with tuning. For this reason it is called = tunable hum. It is prone to occur with a rectified a.c. plate supply = when a standing wave effect of the type described in the preceding = paragraph occurs, and is associated with the non-linearity of the = rectifier tube in the plate supply. Elimination of antenna resonance = effects as described and by-passing the rectifier plates to cathode = (using by-pass condensers of the order of 0.001 mfd.) usually will cure = it." Jim, W8KGI ------=_NextPart_000_016A_01C73B56.7A1D3830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------=_NextPart_000_016A_01C73B56.7A1D3830-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B0E5D8.2050603@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:38:00 -0700 From: "Herbert M. Rosenthal" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a handful of these nickels; when I left home (Syracuse) for the AF in 1951, I put all my childhood cherished items in a box up in the attic for my folks to save for me. They tossed the entire box as 'junk' when they sold the place and moved to a condo. My BC 312, too. My entire childhood just tossed! But my folks were like that... I do remember that the coin was not round, but rather 12-sided, and mine were not the color of the one sold on eB, but a rather dull nickel color. Perhaps the one shown had oxidized-or they made more than one type. Don't ever leave anything in the attic! And never toss anything your kids leave for safe keeping. Herb W5AN ------------------------------ Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <107AF07E-CCC8-4643-AC53-BEBE15524B2D@ucalgary.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Deane McIntyre Subject: Re: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:20:22 -0700 To: Old Tube Radios On 19-Jan-07, at 8:38 AM, Herbert M. Rosenthal wrote: > I had a handful of these nickels; when I left home (Syracuse) for > the AF in 1951, I put all my childhood cherished items in a box up > in the attic for my folks to save for me. > > They tossed the entire box as 'junk' when they sold the place and > moved to a condo. > > My BC 312, too. > > My entire childhood just tossed! But my folks were like that... > > I do remember that the coin was not round, but rather 12-sided, > and mine were not the color of the one sold on eB, but a rather > dull nickel color. Perhaps the one shown had oxidized-or they made > more than one type. You are right. they made more than one type. 1943 was tombac (a copper zinc alloy with more copper and less zinc than normal brasses. As copper was required for war purposes the 1944 and 1945 Vee "nickels" were steel plated with I think chrome. In 1946 production of the normal coins (pure nickel with the beaver) resumed. When I was a kid in the 1960's the 1944 and 1945 V "nickels" were still fairly common in circulation but the 1943 tombac variety had been withdrawn. Being steel and as the edges were unplated the 1944-45 coins tended to rust. In 2005 the Vee nickel design was again used to mark the 60th anniversary of the end of the war. When I first saw one of these I was disappointed to find that the code around the rim had been omitted. 73, Deane McIntyre ------------------------------ Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 From: To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Fwd: CBS color wheel/a forward from Scott Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20070119165504.1F7991F6DBA@filter6.e-filtering.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:55:04 -0700 (MST) ----- Original Message ----- From: spr@earthlink.net To: jsehring@siouxvalley.net Sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:09 Subject: Fwd: CBS color wheel Folks, Very little that's really new happens. The home DLP projectors, both front and rear projection, use a single DLP chip and a rotating color wheel, just like the CBS system but a great deal smaller. The only artifact I know of is rainbows if you blink at the wrong time. I was mightily amused to see this 1953 (?) technology re-adopted. I do have a home video projector, but it's a three chip LCD type, no rainbows. Digital cinema projectors use three DLP chips, make no rainbows, but cost $100k or so. Happy New Year, Scott ------------------------------ Message-ID: <016b01c73bec$49aca3c0$6601a8c0@K0DAN> From: "K0DAN" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:07:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sniff...reminds me of my childhood tossed too. But my folks were more considerate; when they sold & moved to their condo, they had "friends" hold all my stuff, which was promptly tossed! Not too many radio treasures in those days, but I did have a 1956 World Series baseball, autographed by the entire teams of the NY Yankees and Brooklyn Dodgers! Gawd, I can only imagine what that beauty would fetch on the e-place! Every Hall of Famer or baseball legend you ever heard of signed that ball! I could buy buy your BC312 (and for me too)! You are quite right: leave NOTHING in the attic! 73 Dan K0DAN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert M. Rosenthal" To: "Old Tube Radios" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel >I had a handful of these nickels; when I left home (Syracuse) for the AF in >1951, I put all my childhood cherished items in a box up in the attic for >my folks to save for me. > > They tossed the entire box as 'junk' when they sold the place and moved to > a condo. > > My BC 312, too. > > My entire childhood just tossed! But my folks were like that... > > I do remember that the coin was not round, but rather 12-sided, and mine > were not the color of the one sold on eB, but a rather dull nickel color. > Perhaps the one shown had oxidized-or they made more than one type. > > Don't ever leave anything in the attic! And never toss anything your kids > leave for safe keeping. > > Herb W5AN > > ------------------------------ Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 From: To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Mute circuits Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20070119171520.61BFF1D58F3@filter6.e-filtering.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:15:20 -0700 (MST) Re: HQ-140 muting circuit change... I did same to my National NC-125, its rx/stby switching function was noisy. Just lift RF sensitivity control line, usually common to RF & IF stages' cathodes. Hallicrafters does this too, in S-76, SX-96, SX-100, SX-101, etc. I'd rather leave B+ on those stages all the time & just life a low voltage line. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <016901c73bff$befd2970$640fa8c0@radioroom> From: "Tom Rauch" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Canadian 1943 Vee nickel Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:25:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I'm the sucker that bought the coins from ebay. 73 Tom ------------------------------ Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Norris Subject: Re: CBS color wheel/a forward from Scott Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:05:33 -0600 To: Old Tube Radios Sort of on-topic, mostly off... On Jan 19, 2007, at 10:55 AM, wrote: > > Very little that's really new happens. I get half in and half out of the old car hobby every few years, and it amazes me the new "innovations" that pop up there -- the "new, innovative" unibody construction the 70's (I once had a 60'something Mercedes that was unibody, they'd had it for a while) full roll cage passenger area (ditto Mercedes, since the 50's or so) The latest thing I recall seeing was some sort of ground breaking earth shattering innovation from Lexus or one of the top tier honda/toyota/ nissan companies -- headlights that pivot as you turn corners!! How new! How thoroughly modern..... Citroen was doing that in the 1950's. Seems much that's old is new again, but in different clothing. btw... I consider old Mercedes to be boatanchors. Or at least tanks.... heehee Sold as regular cars elsewhere, I guess tariffs and trade restrictions/auto lobbyists have only allowed them sold fully trimmed out/outfitted here as "luxury" cars.... Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:31:09 -0500 (EST) From: stuck in 50s Message-Id: <200701192231.l0JMV9fs019316@fracas.netboobie.org> To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: Fwd: CBS color wheel/a forward from Scott Has anyone seen the latest generation of "TV rihmmmz?" They've got RGB diode clusters proceeding out on radii from the middle with 'fill/support radii' starting further from the center. Anyway the RGB clusters are switched according to speed & position to effect a linear scan & produce a picture!! Bet it uses the same DLP chip Just amazing. Makes our Globe Scouts look like chopped liver 'rm ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001d01c73c8a$5a2cfe40$fa01fea9@Default> From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: LOL!!! The QRS Song Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 05:58:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You gotta hear this: http://www.acidplanet.com/components/embedfile.asp?PID=411714&T=2085 Listen for the reference to "Extra Lite." ------------------------------ Message-ID: <22561906.1169332495477.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:34:55 +0000 (GMT+00:00) From: Richard Dillman To: Old Tube Radios Subject: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sr. Transmitter Engineer Steve Hawes has just advised via the order wire from the transmitting station that the transmitter for the KSM 4Mc frequency is available. That transmitter is now (2230Z) on the air for the first time with high seas weather and will continue to transmit the KSM wheel and other information. The frequency is: 4350.5kc KSM is also transmitting on: 426kc 6477.0kc 12993.okc 16914.0kc As always, those desiring a verification should send a reception reports to the QSL Mistress at: Ms. Denice Stoops PO Box 381 Bolinas, CA 94924 USA VY 73, RD Chief Op, KSM ================================= Richard Dillman, W6AWO Maritime Radio Historical Society http://www.radiomarine.org Collector of Harleys, Willys and Radios over 100lbs. ================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:07:12 -0700 To: Old Tube Radios From: Jack Harper Subject: Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070120230727.8314D187AC7@srvr1.theporch.com> 4350kc -- RST 579 here in Evergreen, Colorado at 2306Z :) Regards to the List. Jack, W0YJ (Friend to all things Hammarlund) At 03:34 PM 1/20/2007, you wrote: >Sr. Transmitter Engineer Steve Hawes has just advised via the order >wire from the transmitting station that the transmitter for the KSM >4Mc frequency is available. That transmitter is now (2230Z) on the >air for the first time with high seas weather and >will continue to transmit the KSM wheel and other information. The >frequency is: > >4350.5kc ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002001c73ced$f09598c0$fa01fea9@Default> From: "David Stinson" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:51:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 4 MC weak in NE Texas but 12 MC is FB. Nothing on long wave, but it's just now getting dark. D.S. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B2B029.2010602@cox.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:13:29 -0700 From: David Hollander MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios CC: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good signals! 599 on all frequencoes except 426 khz. Nothing heard there. Dave N7RK -- *********************************************************** Dave N7RK Boatanchors Home Page: http://members.cox.net/n7rk Phoenix, Arizona *DXCC Honor Roll* *WAZ#22 - 75 Meter SSB* ex-XE2/N7RK, N7RK/ZB2, VK2ERK, ZM0AJN, WB6NRK, WN6IWX Boatanchor and Antique Radio Collector ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45B2B143.10807@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:18:11 -0700 From: "Herbert M. Rosenthal" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: KSM Flash Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe it's the snow here: Time GCT Frequency RST 01/20/2338 4350.5 569 01/20/2339 6477.0 599 + 20 01/20/2341 12993.0 599+40 01/20/2343 16914 569 Herb W5AN Thanks for the heads up on BA. Herb W5AN ------------------------------ Message-ID: <006501c73cdc$0a38e140$7e0b1aa5@32V3> From: "Larry WA9VRH" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: GB> Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:43:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi to all, Hearing KSM on or about 4350 S5 Q5 in Central Illinois. Wish my cw coping skills were a little... no a lot sharper! 73 Larry WA9VRH Update now S7 Q5 73 WA9VRH ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Richard Dillman" ; "Old Tube Radios" ; Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: GB> Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc > Dick, > > 4350.5 S3 Q5 > 6477. Slightly weaker, but Q5 > 12.993 S9 with minor chirp Q5 > 16.914 S5 Q5 > > Rig: JRC NRD525 > Ant: Wires and Yagi > > FB sigs into North Carolina. Send a message down to the transmitter room > that all is well! > > John K5MO > > At 05:34 PM 1/20/2007, Richard Dillman wrote: > > >Sr. Transmitter Engineer Steve Hawes has just advised via the order wire > >from the transmitting station that the transmitter for the KSM 4Mc > >frequency is available. That transmitter is now (2230Z) on the air for > >the first time with high seas weather and will continue to transmit the > >KSM wheel and other information. The frequency is: > > > >4350.5kc > > > >KSM is also transmitting on: > > > >426kc > >6477.0kc > >12993.okc > >16914.0kc > > > >As always, those desiring a verification should send a reception reports > >to the QSL Mistress at: > > > >Ms. Denice Stoops > >PO Box 381 > >Bolinas, CA 94924 > >USA > > > >VY 73, > > > >RD > >Chief Op, KSM > > > >================================= > >Richard Dillman, W6AWO > >Maritime Radio Historical Society > >http://www.radiomarine.org > >Collector of Harleys, Willys and > >Radios over 100lbs. > >================================= > > > > ************ The Glowbugs E-mail List Website is: *************** > *********** http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~glowbugs/ ************** > *** Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to this address: **** > ************** majordomo@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu ************** > > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20070120191302.02e205e0@pop-server.nc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:16:16 -0500 To: Old Tube Radios From: john Subject: Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dick, 4350.5 S3 Q5 6477. Slightly weaker, but Q5 12.993 S9 with minor chirp Q5 16.914 S5 Q5 Rig: JRC NRD525 Ant: Wires and Yagi FB sigs into North Carolina. Send a message down to the transmitter room that all is well! John K5MO At 05:34 PM 1/20/2007, Richard Dillman wrote: >Sr. Transmitter Engineer Steve Hawes has just advised via the order wire >from the transmitting station that the transmitter for the KSM 4Mc >frequency is available. That transmitter is now (2230Z) on the air for >the first time with high seas weather and will continue to transmit the >KSM wheel and other information. The frequency is: > >4350.5kc > >KSM is also transmitting on: > >426kc >6477.0kc >12993.okc >16914.0kc > >As always, those desiring a verification should send a reception reports >to the QSL Mistress at: > >Ms. Denice Stoops >PO Box 381 >Bolinas, CA 94924 >USA > >VY 73, > >RD >Chief Op, KSM > >================================= >Richard Dillman, W6AWO >Maritime Radio Historical Society >http://www.radiomarine.org >Collector of Harleys, Willys and >Radios over 100lbs. >================================= ------------------------------ From: To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:42:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070121014241.DCQG11482.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Richard, KSM was pounding through to NW Florida on my SP-600 until 700PM Central on 6477kc. Not so good on 4050.5kc. Thanks for all you do there. 73 Robert W4RL Pensacola Fl > > From: Richard Dillman > Date: 2007/01/20 Sat PM 04:34:55 CST > To: Old Tube Radios > Subject: FLASH! KSM on 4Mc > > > Sr. Transmitter Engineer Steve Hawes has just advised via the order wire from the transmitting station that the transmitter for the KSM 4Mc frequency is available. That transmitter is now (2230Z) on the air for the first time with high seas weather and will continue to transmit the KSM wheel and other information. The frequency is: > > 4350.5kc > > KSM is also transmitting on: > > 426kc > 6477.0kc > 12993.okc > 16914.0kc > > As always, those desiring a verification should send a reception reports to the QSL Mistress at: > > Ms. Denice Stoops > PO Box 381 > Bolinas, CA 94924 > USA > > VY 73, > > RD > Chief Op, KSM > > ================================= > Richard Dillman, W6AWO > Maritime Radio Historical Society > http://www.radiomarine.org > Collector of Harleys, Willys and > Radios over 100lbs. > ================================= > > ------------------------------ To: Old Tube Radios Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:00:50 -0500 Subject: Boatanchors in the Movies: "The Children of the Night" Message-ID: <20070120.210051.3624.2.k4pf@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Edward Knobloch Hi, Gang Nice sighting of a Hammarlund HQ-180 in a dimly lit radio shack, with S/meter ablaze: "The Children of the Night", a 1991 vampire movie. The boatanchor scene is about 35 minutes into the movie. A priest is being sorely tempted by vampire Karen Black, as he drinks heavily and listens to Radio Albania on the HQ-180. You know he's a goner, though, because his repeated prayer is "Illegitemii non carborundum"! This was a fairly decent vampire movie, with Garrett Morris of Saturday Night Live fame, doing a turn as the town drunk. 73, Ed Knobloch ------------------------------ From: Buzz To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Speaking of boat anchors in the movies Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:43:08 -0800 Message-ID: <99v5r2dq5d89c3mgpn17hvr2hn6c2rak4b@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What is the radios that Radar uses in MASH TV show? Thanks, Buzz ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 3997 ******************************