20070907.ba v04_n087.bam.20070907 >From ???@??? Fri Sep 7 10:36:12 2007 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:34:52 CDT From: Old Tube Radios To: Old Tube Radios Subject: BOATANCHORS digest 4087 Message-Id: <20070907153453.E5E69328142@srvr1.theporch.com> BOATANCHORS Digest 4087 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Heath IM-25 TYs by Zengmeiste@aol.com 2) RF Amplifier Gain by Roy Morgan 3) Re: RF Amplifier Gain by spr@earthlink.net 4) Re: RF Amplifier Gain by Al Klase 5) Johnson Connectors by "Gary Franklin" 6) Re: NC-300 mute question by "JAMES HANLON" 7) Re: RF Amplifier Gain by "Arden Allen" 8) Re: RF Amplifier Gain by "Tom Rauch" 9) Re: RF Amplifier Gain by "Tom Rauch" 10) Re: 7360 Noise Figure? by "Tom Rauch" 11) Re: 7360 Noise Figure? by wb3fau@att.net 12) Interesting Australian Heavy Metal Site by "Jay H. Miller" 13) Night of Nights Confirmation by "B. Smith" 14) Codigraph by Jerry Proc 15) Re: BOATANCHORS digest 4086-Characterization of noise by "David M. Upton" 16) for sale by wb3fau@att.net 17) [MRCA] MRCA Military Radio Meet Sept 21 & 22, 2007 by Al Klase 18) Rangers for Sale by W4UOC@aol.com 19) B418 Table Radio For Sale by Jerry Proc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zengmeiste@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:12:41 EDT Subject: Heath IM-25 TYs To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d46.11e5cf1b.340f1639_boundary" --part1_d46.11e5cf1b.340f1639_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm...paperweight (HIHI), Fluke, max smoke (Illinois is outlawing smoking in public places as of Jan 1 2008, so will they fine you if your equipment gets testy at a hamvention?) and the Holy Grail - a manual! Thanks, Thanks, Thanks and Thanks. Wow. I rather like the (very) dry sense of humour here, too... Vy 73, all, Terry, KC9KEL

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Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour --part1_d46.11e5cf1b.340f1639_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --part1_d46.11e5cf1b.340f1639_boundary-- ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070904163658.02bae330@mailserver.nist.gov> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:40:52 -0400 To: Old Tube Radios From: Roy Morgan Subject: RF Amplifier Gain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Anchorit3es, What might be a typical gain figure(s) for two RF amplifier stage: Tu wit: the SX-88 I am working on is quite deaf (10 MILLIvolts RF input for S-9) while the IF stage sensitivity seems quite right. The thing uses a 6CB6 followed by a 6BA6. (On the BC band only the 6AU6 is used.) Roy - Roy Morgan, K1LKY since 1959 - Keep 'em Glowing 13033 Downey Mill Road, Lovettsville, VA 20180 Phone 540-822-5911 Cell 301-928-7794 Work: Voice: 301-975-3254, Fax: 301-975-6097 roy.morgan@nist.gov -- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1654124.1188939886549.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:04:46 -0400 (EDT) From: spr@earthlink.net To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: RF Amplifier Gain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roy, I think you should expect a gain of at least X5 from each stage. /scott -----Original Message----- >From: Roy Morgan >Sent: Sep 4, 2007 4:40 PM >To: Old Tube Radios >Subject: RF Amplifier Gain > > Anchorit3es, > >What might be a typical gain figure(s) for two RF amplifier stage: > >Tu wit: the SX-88 I am working on is quite deaf (10 MILLIvolts RF input for >S-9) while the IF stage sensitivity seems quite right. > >The thing uses a 6CB6 followed by a 6BA6. (On the BC band only the 6AU6 is >used.) > >Roy >- Roy Morgan, K1LKY since 1959 - Keep 'em Glowing >13033 Downey Mill Road, Lovettsville, VA 20180 >Phone 540-822-5911 Cell 301-928-7794 >Work: Voice: 301-975-3254, Fax: 301-975-6097 >roy.morgan@nist.gov -- > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <46DDD1BE.5030000@ar88.net> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:44:30 -0400 From: Al Klase MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios CC: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: RF Amplifier Gain Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010502070706030802080508" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010502070706030802080508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roy, That's my SWAG as well, measuring from one grid to the next. Is it deaf on all bands? That would exonerate the tuned circuits. Also make sure the LO is working properly as indicated by the appropriate negative voltage on the oscillator grid. Regards, Al spr@earthlink.net wrote: > Roy, > > I think you should expect a gain of at least X5 from each stage. > > /scott > > - > -- Al Klase - N3FRQ Flemington, NJ http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/ --------------010502070706030802080508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------010502070706030802080508-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003501c7ef40$ed605f90$6601a8c0@RADIO1> From: "Gary Franklin" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Johnson Connectors Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:14:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C7EF1F.660E5B30" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C7EF1F.660E5B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to hook up my Johnson 6n2 transmitter to my Ranger. I need to = make a power cable. I need (1) male and (1) female 9 pin octal type = connectors. Anyone know where I can find them? Thanks Gary K8BKB ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C7EF1F.660E5B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C7EF1F.660E5B30-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "JAMES HANLON" To: Old Tube Radios Cc: "boatanchors" Subject: Re: NC-300 mute question Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:52:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0496_01C7EF1C.562BC3E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0496_01C7EF1C.562BC3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, I have an NC-303 which mutes the same way the NC-300 does. Garey is = correct in what he tells you below. However, I run QSK cw by using a = spdt (mercury wetted) relay, with the swinger connected to receiver = ground, the normally closed contact (closed when the key is up and the = station is in receive mode) connected to the STDBY screw, and the = normally open contact connected to the receiver antenna terminal. I = also connect a 10 K pot with a series switch between the STDBY screw and = ground. =20 On receive, with the XMT-REC switch in the receiver set to SMT, the = relay shorts STDBY to ground and the receiver operates normally. =20 On transmit, my relay switches and the following happens. The short to = ground on STDBY is opened and the 10K pot becomes an auxiliary RF gain = control, allowing me to set my monitor gain to an appropriate level when = I'm listening to my CW signal. If I'm operating phone and want to = completely mute the receiver, I turn the pot all the way down which = opens its switch and the receiver mutes. Also the relay swinger shorts = the receiver antenna terminal to ground, thus further limiting the = amount of input signal to the receiver. =20 Jim, W8KGI ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Garey Barrell=20 To: Old Tube Radios=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: Re: NC-300 mute question Jim - There's a three terminal board on the back of the receiver. STDBY -=20 GND - MUTE. If the front panel switch is set to XMT, the receiver = will=20 be in standby until the STDBY and GND terminals are shorted. The = MUTE=20 side cuts off only the AF output stage and is used for full break-in = on=20 CW. -22VDC applied to MUTE in transmit cuts off the audio = immediately,=20 and will follow at a fairly fast CW speed. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs > ------=_NextPart_000_0496_01C7EF1C.562BC3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------=_NextPart_000_0496_01C7EF1C.562BC3E0-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003f01c7ef5c$17efce10$f79d480c@KB6NAX> From: "Arden Allen" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: RF Amplifier Gain Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:23:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > That's my SWAG as well, measuring from one grid to the next. ...... I've found that signal injection at each grid gives more reliable results for determining stage gains. Keep leads as short as possible at the grid, especially at higher frequencies, and adjust your signal generator for a reference level from the detector starting with injection at the last IF amp grid. Clamp the AVC line to a voltage that resembles a normal received signal level. Don't inject at the plate of an IF amp because the IF stransformer coupling coefficient will be drastically reduced giving an erroneous gain figure for the following stage. By deduction after measuring several stages you will see where a problem exists. Also, aligning IF transformers as you go will expose faulty transformer resonating capacitors. Sometimes more accurate alignment of critically or over-coupled transformers can be had by swamping the opposite winding to the one being aligned with a 10K to 47K resistor. PS: Protect your signal generator attenuator from damage by accidental high currents with a series capacitor. Arden Allen KB6NAX ------------------------------ Message-ID: <007301c7ef5f$785eaa70$640fa8c0@radioroom> From: "Tom Rauch" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: RF Amplifier Gain Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:52:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What might be a typical gain figure(s) for two RF > amplifier stage: Almost anything. The gain is largely determined by the plate load resistance in a grid driven amplifier. If the load resistance at the anode is very high the gain will be high. There are other factors too like feedback or losses, but the load resistance at the plate is major. For a particular receiver you would probably have to compare it to a working receiver. And the problem with tube circuits is the impedance is so high the test gear significantly affects the results. > Tu wit: the SX-88 I am working on is quite deaf (10 > MILLIvolts RF input for S-9) while the IF stage > sensitivity seems quite right. I'd probably, after making sure the tubes are good, resonant circuits are aligned properly, and the voltages are normal from RF amp through mixer, look for an open bypass or low mixer injection. 73 Tom ------------------------------ Message-ID: <008301c7ef5f$ea3211f0$640fa8c0@radioroom> From: "Tom Rauch" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: RF Amplifier Gain Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:55:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've found that signal injection at each grid gives more > reliable results > for determining stage gains. That's a good idea. It's very easy to build a constant voltage source probe and work backwards with the injection looking for a stage with negative or very low gain. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <009a01c7ef61$db4a1500$640fa8c0@radioroom> From: "Tom Rauch" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: 7360 Noise Figure? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:09:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm just getting back after a week plus of vacation, so pardon me if this has already been covered. Late in the tube era, in the mid 60's, the 7360 beam-deflection tube was used as a front-end mixer in the Squires Sanders SS-1R receiver. I haven't looked it up, but apparently William Squires published an article in QST about it, "A new Approach to Receiver Front-End Design." (That's according to the reference in Raymond Moore's book, Communications Receivers." As I recall, the beam-deflection tube was supposed to have a noise figure comparable to a good RF pentode and excellent large-signal characteristics. So it could be used as a front-end mixer without an RF amplifier ahead of it. Can anyone fill in more info on this? In particular, how does the 7360 noise figure or equivalent noise resistance compare to some of the other tubes that have been mentioned?>> Jim, I built a receiver with a beam deflection tube as a mixer and it has really great dynamic range. Well over 100dB for IM3 DR. I still needed an RF amp on mine to get down into noise, but I may not have the thing fully optimized. Still laying upside down like a dead cat waiting for another life. ------------------------------ From: wb3fau@att.net To: Old Tube Radios Cc: "JAMES HANLON" Subject: Re: 7360 Noise Figure? Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:58:51 +0000 Message-Id: <090520071358.17496.46DEB61A000B46410000445821602807489A0E00CC0D99@att.net> Jim did you ever own or operate a Squires-Sanders SS1R? Pretty amazing radio, for sure. The background noise level is like non-existant. On other receivers with preselectors and RF gain controls, the background noise increases a lot, when the band is up. With the SS1R, it just stays quiet and the signals just pop in out of nowhere, its a neat experience. Russ. ------------------------------ Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:04:12 -0500 To: Old Tube Radios From: "Jay H. Miller" Subject: Interesting Australian Heavy Metal Site Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1023121442==_ma============" --============_-1023121442==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A fellow down under sent me this URL about Australian heavy metal transmitte= rs. http://users.pipeline.com.au/burst Some interesting rigs from the last 60 years. Thought I would share it with the group. *********** jay@kk5im.com *********** Jay H. Miller, KK5IM Dallas, Texas NRA * ARRL * DXCC * S.A.S.S. #34,692 32=B0 AASR * MVPA #25,180 Website: http://www.kk5im.com ***** Proud to be 100% Macintosh since 1984! ***** --============_-1023121442==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --============_-1023121442==_ma============-- ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000f01c7efce$a1e8abb0$a8d6cc47@HAL1000> From: "B. Smith" To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Night of Nights Confirmation Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:08:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received my RCA "Marine Radiogram" to confirming my reception of KPH, KFS, and KSM during the recent Night of Nights event. Very professional response to my reception report that I sent in. 73 breck k4che ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:56:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry Proc Subject: Codigraph To: Old Tube Radios MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <293601.78291.qm@web90611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, This week I received an explanation for a coding machine for which I was missing copy. http://www.jproc.ca/crypto/codigraph.html Its use will surprise you. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ------------------------------ Message-ID: <46DF7ABA.3020906@wb1cmg.mv.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:57:46 -0400 From: "David M. Upton" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: BOATANCHORS digest 4086-Characterization of noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really can't resist this time since these are some of my professional interests.....Noise characterization for any device is only determined by 4 terms: Rn (Req), Yopt (Gopt +/- jBopt), and NFmin. These can be interpreted as mapping out a series of circles on a Smith chart for any given bias condition. Req is seen as the gradient or rate of degradation from the distance (chartwise) from Yopt (the very best admittance for noise to the device resulting in NFmin.). Thus, low Req implies very low sensitivity to changes in input admittance whereas higher numbers imply much greater sensitivity. Yopt is the center of the circle family mentioned earlier. Visualizing what is going on, if Yopt is the bottom of the noise matching "well", then Req dictates how steep the sides are as you climb out. Yopt is usually given in conjugate form (Yopt*) which can either mean present the device with the conjugate of this number or design the network to do this. One has to look at the math to be sure. A modern device such as an Avago 54143 has such a low Req that it isn't really noticeably sensitive to input impedance. It works about as well at 50 Ohms in as it does with something more or less. Carefully measuring NFmin requires a lot of attention to detail as all losses in the circuits must be accounted for and characterized. Most of the time, an amateur adjusts for lowest NF obtainable at a given bias with his equipment. Note that one could have a low noise device with a high Req and find it is very hard to adjust for lowest noise figure. A device with lower Req is inherently easier to adjust even if the ultimate noise figure obtainable is not quite so low. Devices with lower Req are to be preferred in designs where adjustments are to be minimized. Practical limits of noise figure performance for terrestrial work up through 220 MHz were reached in the early '50s. Of course, moonbouncers want every last tenth of a dB and have driven noise figure measuring and optimization through the floor. Lucky indeed was the ham who got a 417A or 416B to use in a home project in the '50s or early '60s! Let alone the 7788 or 7077! David, WB1CMG Mont Vernon, NH 03057 ------------------------------ From: wb3fau@att.net To: Old Tube Radios Subject: for sale Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:09:23 +0000 Message-Id: <090620071509.12747.46E01823000089BE000031CB21603762239A0E00CC0D99@att.net> BA Folks- i have in my possession a real nice condition National NC-183D, with speaker and manual. I will bring it to the Boat Anchor gathering in Cleveland, on Sept.22. Others too far away, i will send pictures and entertain offers. Russ. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <46E03420.1020009@ar88.net> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:08:48 -0400 From: Al Klase MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Old Tube Radios Subject: [MRCA] MRCA Military Radio Meet Sept 21 & 22, 2007 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090807000100000300050308" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090807000100000300050308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Gang, The MRCA (Military Radio Collector's Association) will hold its 7th annual meet on Friday & Saturday September 21 & 22 at the West End Fairgrounds in Gilbert, Pa. Again we will hold it along with the Red Ball Military Vehicle Show & Swapmeet. This is a very large vehicle show with an extensive swapmeet area. We have the same excellent facilities that we have enjoyed during the past meets held at the fairgrounds. We will have radio operating activities, presentations on military radio related subjects throughout the event. Tailgating is also permitted during the event. Here's the schedule: Friday, 21 September: All day - Setup, Swap meet, radio operation, and informal displays . and demos. 13:00 - Field Exercise Briefing 14:00 - Field Exercise Deployment Saturday, 22 September: 05:00 - The Old Military Radio Net, W3PWW – NCS 08:30 - Squad Radio Exercise (tentative) 11:00 – Formal Presentations 12:30 - Show and Tell 13:30 -HT / Backpack Net on 3885 KHz / 51 MHz All day – More radio operation, demos, and displays. Please visit our website at http://www.mrca.ar88.net/ for complete information. Hope to see you there!! 73, Steve Finelli N3NNG navrad@ptd.net --------------090807000100000300050308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --------------090807000100000300050308-- ------------------------------ From: W4UOC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:24:06 EDT Subject: Rangers for Sale To: Old Tube Radios CC: k0occ@comcast.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1189106646" -------------------------------1189106646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am brining two Johnson Rangers for sale at the Prater's Mill Hamfest. 1. Ranger 1 - $350.00 includes ppt mod 2. Ranger II - $350.00 Both are in good working condition. I am just reducing the number of BAs in my shack. If there is interest from anyone not planning on attending the Prater's Mill Hamfest this Saturday, Sept 8th, near Dalton, GA please contact me via return email or to my cell phone 404-314-6109. I am currently at our cabin near Ellijay and have the rigs in my vehicle. If any party is interested prior to the hamfest and not planning on attending this hamfest and make a commitment to purchase them I will hold them and ship if needed at the buyers expense. 73 Tom Koch - W4UOC 404-314-6109 ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -------------------------------1189106646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * Mail Lists at theporch.com only accept PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -------------------------------1189106646-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:34:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry Proc Subject: B418 Table Radio For Sale To: Old Tube Radios Cc: jefulton@toronto.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <465181.24930.qm@web90613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, Today I was contacted by a gentlemen who wishes to find a good home to a vintage table radio but doesn't know any collectors. Its an RCA Model B418 table radio still in its original packing box c/w packing list and manual. If you are interested, please contact the seller directly. Do not contact me since I have no further information other than what I am posting here. Contact: John Fulton Phone 416 394 8526 (Office EST) E-mail: jefulton@toronto.ca Location: Toronto John will negotiate a reasonable asking price. -- Regards, Jerry Proc E-mail: jerry7proc@yahoo.com Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ------------------------------ End of BOATANCHORS Digest 4087 ******************************