Subject: glowbugs V1 #239
glowbugs Friday, February 6 1998 Volume 01 : Number 239
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:10:59 -0500
From: "Ornitz, Barry L" <ornitz@eastman.com>
Subject: More RF current indicating devices...
In line with NA4G's wanting a low-cost RF power indication, I have two
rather simple suggestions and one only slightly more complicated.
The first is to use the battery tester strips sold with many of today's
alkaline batteries. These are composed of a strip of paper/plastic with
metallization on one side and a coating of thermally sensitive liquid
crystals on the other.
The metallization forms a load resistor for the battery. When the
voltage is supplied to the load, the strip heats up proportional to the
power supplied to it. As the temperature changes, the color of the
liquid crystals changes on the other side. The metallization is applied
in such a way that there is a temperature gradient giving an analog-like
readout from the display.
It should be possible to use these testers as RF ammeters by merely
connecting the two metallized battery contact pads in series with the
transmission line to the antenna. The inductance is low enough that
these should work fine through VHF. I do not know if you can solder
directly to the metallization (and even if you can, the high temperature
might destroy the liquid crystal polymers). I suggest a simple clamp
for the connections or perhaps a pair of alligator clips.
Conductive paint should work too. Be careful not to touch anything on
the indicator during operation (RF burns are really painful). If you
are satisfied with the operation of such a device, you can mount it in a
box or behind a panel with a piece of clear plastic over it to keep
fingers away. If you do this, mount the strip at least a centimeter
away from the clear plastic to provide good air flow around the strip
(it needs free convection of the surrounding air to work properly).
The second suggestion is to use small lamps in series with the
transmission line. High current automotive bulbs (especially 6 volt
ones) should work well. The bulb brightness will give a relative
indication of the line current. Calibration is an issue, however. You
can develop a calibrated "eyeball" or you can build a simple "oil spot"
pyrometer. Lower current bulbs can be used for higher power by shunting
the bulb across several inches of one conductor of the transmission
line.
The optical pyrometer is really just a second bulb, wired to a battery
and rheostat with the second bulb placed next to the first. The light
from both bulbs is viewed through a diffuser. The rheostat is adjusted
to match the brightness of its associated bulb to the brightness of the
bulb in the RF circuit. The diffuser scatters the light a little and
makes the eyeball comparison easier. Ground glass is used on
professional pyrometers like this, but a piece of paper with a drop of
oil applied will work about as well. The idea is that you can measure
the DC current in the rheostat circuit easily and calibrate the dial of
the rheostat. Once done, you merely turn the rheostat until the
brightness appears equal and read the RMS current from the dial.
The final suggestion is to build a REAL directional wattmeter. Warren
Bruene, one of Art Collins' best engineers, pioneered the design of
these. Most modern handbooks have the design which is really quite
simple. With these you have the capability of reading the actual output
power even when the load presents a VSWR of other than unity. [Actual
power = Forward Power - Reflected Power] With an RF ammeter or RF
voltmeter, the reading will vary with the location of the measurement
point in the transmission line unless the VSWR is 1:1 (a 50 ohm dummy
load fed with 50 ohm coax, for example). While most vacuum tube
transmitters are fairly forgiving of high VSWR because of their
wide-range matching networks, owning a directional wattmeter is still
convenient. If you have a sensitive meter (1 mA or less full scale),
the reminder of the parts needed to build such a wattmeter should cost
less than $10.
73, Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ
ornitz@eastman.com, ornitz@tricon.net
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:31 -0600
From: w5hvv@aeneas.net (Roderick M. Fitz-Randolph)
Subject: Re: Chirpy Viking Ranger
>Hi Rod,
>
>Don't know much about the chirping problem, but I was interested in your
>chassis cleaning procedures using kerosene...What are the pros and cons of
>this procedure and could you expand on it a bit? I have three Viking II's
>in the queue for restoration - all needing chassis cleaning.
>
>Regards,
____________________________________________________________________
Walt, when I worked at Columbus AFB in the mid 50's and was working
on ARC-3 transceivers, I was horrified to see one of the other techs
dump the entire chassis in kerosene and start brushing it off with a
paint brush. I was convinced that he had ruined every thing in the
unit. Afterward, he took an air hose and hosed the whole thing off
and it was spotless. He'd let it dry for a day and then re-tube it
and try it out. They always worked fine.
When I clean a chassis now, I avoid the "total immersion" concept and
use a paint brush (and/or a rag, when apropos) and a vacuum cleaner.
I put kerosene in a glass jelly jar and use several different paint
brush sizes in order to be able to clean the various, sometimes very
difficult to get to, places.
I then dip the paint brush in the kerosene and apply it vigorously to
the chassis. It tends to remove wax that may have dripped from an old
capacitor, dust, dirt, some corrosion, etc. I then place the vacuum
cleaner nozzle close to the area that is still wet and dry it. I
sometimes use a dry, clean rag to go over the wet area first to remove
as much of the kerosene as I can. (CAUTION, DO NOT do this with GASOLINE!)
I continue to do a relatively small area at a time until it is complete.
It usually goes quite fast and makes the aluminum chassis look very good
when I'm done.
I have some trepidation about using a vacuum cleaner and accumulating
kerosene fumes in the cannister. So far, I have not had a problem. I
would recommend air-drying the unit by placing it in the sun or garage
or wherever until all the kerosene (that wasn't removed by a dry rag)
is evaporated as opposed to using a vacuum cleaner ["Do as I say, not as
I do"]. It only takes a few minutes in a good sun - at worst,
overnight in the garage if the weather is inclement. Just make damned
sure that the kerosene is gone before you "light it up". Avoid getting
the kerosene on the laminations of any transformers or any place where
the kerosene might tend to NOT evaporate.... just use good common sense.
Be cautious and careful. It does a beautiful job. I use just a small
amount of hand soap and lightly go over the glass envelope of tubes
that I want to clean up, then run water over the envelope to remove the
soap. Then apply (by patting - now wiping) a kleenex to the envelope.
That, so far, has not removed any of the identifying numbers and makes
them look like new. Of course, you need to keep the water away from the
tube base as some of the tube bases have a hole in stead of one of the
pins and that would let water in..... however, it is not hard to prevent
this from happening.
Anyhooooo, I have cleaned up a number of chassis, including several that
had been left in a chicken coop for 10 years!!! They came out looking
like new!
Rod, N5HV
w5hvv@aeneas.net
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:39:32 -0500
From: "Carl Yaffey" <cyaffey@m1.sprynet.com>
Subject: Any interest in a CX logger?
I've been thinking about putting my software expertise to work in a Ham
Radio
project. I'd like to find something to write that nobody else has written
(good luck, eh?).
Do any of you think a program to log contacts in the Classic Radio Exchange
would be
a good idea? As one option, it could allow you to enter all of your
equipment ahead of time so that you could easily pick a trasmitter or
receiver from a "pick" list when you made a contact.
Do you have any OTHER ideas fora Ham-related program that would do something
unique?
TNX in advance es 73,
Carl K8NU
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:43:05 -0500 (EST)
From: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: More RF current indicating devices...
>
> In line with NA4G's wanting a low-cost RF power indication, I have two
> rather simple suggestions and one only slightly more complicated.
>
> The first is to use the battery tester strips sold with many of today's
> alkaline batteries.
Neat Idea!
> The second suggestion is to use small lamps in series with the
> transmission line.
The lamp and optical pyrometer examples are classics, and would
be neat for glowbugs, especially for lower powered ones. But,
I have this pair of ceramic lamp sockets, some 200 watt lamps,
and a loose variac..... hmmmm, time to see if something can be
scratched together. Ground glass is cheap at the glaziers shop.
One could calibrate it for different standardized household lamps
from 7.5 watt night lights up to 200 or 500 watt mazda lamps, and
thereby use it on most reasonable sized glowbug sets.
Perhaps one could use a silicon solar cell run to a 1 ma meter
through a resistance and use that for matchneedle comparitors.
The box would not need viewing ports, but probably would need to
be painted black on the inside. Two solar cells, a switch, and
a meter, and a calibration against AC power, perhaps.... hmmmmm.
One could use a pair of cadmium sulphide photocell from ratshack
with a 1.5 volt battery and a series limiting scaling resistor and a
microammeter or milliammeter to do the same thing. The resistance
on those in the visible light region and near infared would allow
the resistance to change from 500K to maybe 10-15K or so. That
would be fairly easy to use for calibration on a variac maybe, if
a suitable AC calibration ammeter could be found.
Back about 20 years or so I built some detector heads for and old
Beckman DU spectrophotometer (converted the tube detectors to
photocells and a high impedance FET voltmeter). The principle
was basically the same. Stick the detector in a light tight
black box and amplify the dickens out of the voltage from the
photocell. I went over to the junk drawer and found a couple of
the heads and one still has its CDS photoresistor and the other its
GE 8PV2FAA octal plug based photocell. In the office light, the
photocell puts out 100ua of current, so it should be workable on
a 100ua or 1ma meter movement. One might even be able to hook
them up on a zero-center meter so that they could be zeroed, and
then the calibration read from the variac scale or a calibration
table when zero balance is reached..... hmmmm.
One could do the same thing and calibrate it against an in-line
wattmeter, and scale it for RF amperes or PEP watts directly.
Hmmmm......This might get fun, and practical hands on, again.....(:+}}.....
> The final suggestion is to build a REAL directional wattmeter.
The old AC voltmeter (Weston 271) of mine is 2/3ds of a non-directional
wattmeter, since it has the built-in rectifier and is sensitive enough
(872 ac ohms per volt) that it only needs a pickup loop along the antenna
line. I would expect that if it were matched at 1:1, then the line
would show forward power only. I wonder how many of the odd unused
AC voltmeters are sensitive enough to work directly like that?
Time to raid the junk boxes and get the fingers dirty again.....
Measures ye out yer powers froms yer fine glowbugges tonite!
Bob/NA4G
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:53:52 -0600
From: w5hvv@aeneas.net (Roderick M. Fitz-Randolph)
Subject: Re: Chirpy Viking Ranger
>whats the matter with having a chirpy ranger?
>little chuup or thuckie or youpp
>never hurt anybody
_________________________________________________
I agree! A little chirp gives a distinctive sound
that is easily picked out among the "straight" sounding
ricebox CW.
Howsomever, this has a chirp that sometimes turns into
a scratchy, scriggly, gurgling over about a 2 KHz range
and you can't follow it, it moves so fast.
The prime suspect, according to some of the responses I've
received is the 18K resistor that goes to the OA2 regulator
tube. A number of messages said to replace that with a
good high wattage 18K metal oxide resistor (or several in
parallel to give the proper value and wattage).
The Ranger I remembered from my Grand Turk (VP5RR) days in
the 50's was a chirpless wonder.....
Rod, N5HV
w5hvv@aeneas.net
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:19:26 -0600
From: w5hvv@aeneas.net (Roderick M. Fitz-Randolph)
Subject: Re: Any interest in a CX logger?
>I've been thinking about putting my software expertise to work in a Ham
>Radio
>project. I'd like to find something to write that nobody else has written
>(good luck, eh?).
>Do any of you think a program to log contacts in the Classic Radio Exchange
>would be
>a good idea? As one option, it could allow you to enter all of your
>equipment ahead of time so that you could easily pick a trasmitter or
>receiver from a "pick" list when you made a contact.
>Do you have any OTHER ideas fora Ham-related program that would do something
>unique?
>TNX in advance es 73,
>Carl K8NU
_____________________________________________________________________________
I think that is a super idea, Carl! I sure hope you can write it in Java
so that I can import it to another Classic: my Mac Classic II!!!!!!
If not, I'll have to bring in my frau's (ugh) 486/66.
Rod, N5HV
w5hvv@aeneas.net
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:44:04 +0000
From: Sandy W5TVW <ebjr@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: More RF current indicating devices...
At 12:10 PM 2/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>In line with NA4G's wanting a low-cost RF power indication, I have two
>rather simple suggestions and one only slightly more complicated.
>
>The first is to use the battery tester strips sold with many of today's
>alkaline batteries. These are composed of a strip of paper/plastic with
>metallization on one side and a coating of thermally sensitive liquid
>crystals on the other.
>The metallization forms a load resistor for the battery. When the
>voltage is supplied to the load, the strip heats up proportional to the
>power supplied to it. As the temperature changes, the color of the
>liquid crystals changes on the other side. The metallization is applied
>in such a way that there is a temperature gradient giving an analog-like
>readout from the display.
>
These indeed *do work*, but *VERY* sluggishly! Makes for some
sort of indicator in an emergency. Also I found if used repeatedly, there
is a sort of 'persistance' in the strip's color that takes some time to fade
completely out.
>The second suggestion is to use small lamps in series with the
>transmission line. High current automotive bulbs (especially 6 volt
>ones) should work well. The bulb brightness will give a relative
>indication of the line current. Calibration is an issue, however.
Small lamps are excellent indicators. I have used low current lamps
(6v.@ 60 ma, 12 and 24 v.@ 20-60 ma., 6 v @ 150 ma #47, etc.) in a
socket shunted with a self supporting coil of about 10-15 turns of #16
solid wire about 1/2" in diameter spaced wire diameter. One can detect
a fairly low RF current, even on QRP gear when using random wire antennas.
If the point the lamp is connected in has a high impedance and the current
is too low, then resort to a neon bulb like the NE-2 or similar. A
discarded voltage
regulator tube (0A2, 0B2, 0D3, VR-75, etc) will suffice if you don't have a neon
bulb handy. The neons are *voltage* indicators and should have one or both
end of the lamp tied in parallel with the wire feeder being monitored.
73,
E. V. Sandy Blaize, W5TVW
"Boat Anchors collected, restored, repaired, traded and used!"
417 Ridgewood Drive
Metairie, LA., 70001
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:08:07 -0500
From: "Ornitz, Barry L" <ornitz@eastman.com>
Subject: RE: More RF current indicating devices...
Whoa, Bob! You are missing something here.
> The lamp and optical pyrometer examples are classics, and would
> be neat for glowbugs, especially for lower powered ones. But,
> I have this pair of ceramic lamp sockets, some 200 watt lamps,
> and a loose variac..... hmmmm, time to see if something can be
> scratched together. Ground glass is cheap at the glaziers shop.
> One could calibrate it for different standardized household lamps
> from 7.5 watt night lights up to 200 or 500 watt mazda lamps, and
> thereby use it on most reasonable sized glowbug sets.
>
The lamp is not the transmitter load. It is in series
with the load. You want to use a low voltage lamp here
because the voltage developed by the current flowing
through the lamp is subtracted from the voltage that
would normally go to the antenna. That bulb eats up a
little of your signal. Using a higher voltage bulb
eats up even more signal. Maybe an example will help
explain:
Assume you have a 100 watt output transmitter and the
normal load is 50 ohms. The RMS current will be
SQRT(100/50) = 1.414 amps. Now for this much current,
we need a bulb whose normal operating current is
somewhat higher. My guess is that a #1141 or #1142
automotive lamp will work well. These operate on 12.8
volts and 1.44 amps. With one of these bulbs in
series, you will develop almost the full bulb voltage
(something around 12.6 volts) with 1.414 amps flowing.
But the bulb adds almost 9 ohms in series. This will
change the transmitter load. In fact, to light the
bulb to full brilliance, the transmitter must put out
122 watts into 59 ohms. 103 watts will go into the 50
ohm load and nine watts will go into lighting the lamp.
This is why you want to use low voltage, high current
lamps. They eat up less of your transmitter power. A
much better approach is to use a low voltage, low
current lamp shunted across a short section of
resistance wire. For example I have some stainless
wire of about 16 gauge that is about 2 ohms per foot.
Three inches of this wire will give a resistance of 0.5
ohm. Running the full 1500 watts through this 0.5 ohm
wire into a 50 ohm dummy load will produce 5.45 amps of
RF current and 2.7 volts across the 0.5 ohm piece of
wire. A #338 miniature lamp would be a good monitor
here. It is rated at 2.7 volts at 0.06 amp. This bulb
would light to full brilliance when 1505 watts were
output from the transmitter. In this case 1490 of the
watts would go to heating the 50 ohm load, and the
remaining 15 watts would go into heating the three inch
length of wire and in lighting the bulb. This is much
more practical. A pair of flashlight batteries and a
1 K pot would do to power the second lamp.
Your ideas of using a photocell would work too.
However, the calibration would be in approximately
average watts. The thermal mass of the lamp filament
will slow its response down to the point where the lamp
brightness could not track voice very well (or even
high speed CW).
73, Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ ornitz@tricon.net
>
>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:47:17 -0500 (EST)
From: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: More RF current indicating devices...
>
> Whoa, Bob! You are missing something here.
I thought about that after I pressed the send button..... (:+}}....
mind only half cogged today..... (:+}}.....
But, it would still hold for a calibrated dummy load.
For testing purposes, the 200 watt lamp makes a good 50 ohm load
for the 50-200 watt output range (close enough for testing for
non-FCC play glowbugging specs). It also is its own indicator.
Somewhere back in time I had a table of lamp values that I posted
for various sized lamps as dummy loads. What I was thinking was
to use the optical or metered pyranometer as the ``antique'' power
indicator on the dummy load. Change bulbs to change power scale
on the indicating dummy load. Probably as good as an RF ammeter.
Yes, use the smallest bulb practicable for someting kept in
the line, and then when not in use jumper around it.
That line can be the antenna or the dummy load. What I was
thinking was using the lamp itself for the indicating dummy load.
Putting a 200 watt bulb in the line would eat up a goodly
portion of the output signal, but not that much of it, in reality.
Mismatch aside, adding a big bulb into the line roughly only halves
the power, and that is only 3db lost gain, which is not that much.
But, it is better to put in a bulb absorber indicator that is small
relative to the total output, so it does not load the circuit down.
For example, the infamous Grammer '32 Hartley uses a 4 watt or
smaller bulb there for tuning, and then it is jumpered out when not
actually tuning. Tune for max brilliancy on the bulb and then jumper
it out.
Bob/NA4G
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:57:15 -0500
From: "Ornitz, Barry L" <ornitz@eastman.com>
Subject: Cleaning with Kerosene! Watch out!
As the "resident chemist and safety guru" (*) on the
other Boatanchor group, I cringed when I saw this. It
came to me via Glowbugs. I am not sure if I can post
to the Tempe list without being subscribed there. I
hope someone will place this information on that list
if my note is not posted there in a day or so.
> From: w5hvv@aeneas.net [SMTP:w5hvv@aeneas.net]
> When I clean a chassis now, I avoid the "total
> immersion" concept and use a paint brush (and/or a
> rag, when apropos) and a vacuum cleaner. I put
> kerosene in a glass jelly jar and use several
> different paint brush sizes in order to be able to
> clean the various, sometimes very difficult to get
> to, places.
>
There are two things to consider here. One is the
compatibility of the electronic components with
kerosene and the other is the fire hazard. Let's take
the chemical compatibility first. Kerosene generally
does not do too much damage to enamel paints (those
that harden or dry by chemical reaction). It can
soften many lacquers, however. Most cans of quick
drying spray paint are really lacquers. So test ANY
solvent first before using it on a radio or other
painted surface. Kerosene has been known to remove the
color codes from some components like resistors and
capacitors too. Most thermoplastics (plastics that
soften when heated) are quite susceptible to solvents.
Even if they do not dissolve the plastic, you may run
into crazing (surface fogging) and future stress
corrosion cracking of the plastic. Electrolytic
capacitors that absorb any kerosene are generally
ruined. Other components like waxed paper capacitors
will also be damaged by kerosene. Even if the radio is
more modern and uses dipped film capacitors, you need
to worry. The encapsulation of most older components
is not really that good and the kerosene can work its
way into tiny cracks to reach the inside of capacitors,
resistors, and coils. The damage my not be immediately
apparent too. Kerosene will also dissolve any
lubrication on switches, potentiometers and such. This
may be good as the old lubrication is often hardened
and gummy, but you do not want any kerosene trapped
inside an "almost sealed" switch or pot. Always
remember to re-lubricate switches.
The fire hazard is the other, more important, important
issue.
> I then dip the paint brush in the kerosene and apply
> it vigorously to the chassis. It tends to remove
> wax that may have dripped from an old capacitor,
> dust, dirt, some corrosion, etc. I then place the
> vacuum cleaner nozzle close to the area that is
> still wet and dry it. I sometimes use a dry, clean
> rag to go over the wet area first to remove as much
> of the kerosene as I can. (CAUTION, DO NOT do this
> with GASOLINE!) I continue to do a relatively small
> area at a time until it is complete. It usually goes
> quite fast and makes the aluminum chassis look very
> good when I'm done.
>
I really got a cold chill when I read this. Vacuum
cleaners generally pass the air over the hot motor to
help it from overheating. Even if the motor is not hot
enough to ignite the kerosene, most vacuum motors are
universal-wound types with brushes - that spark! From
an Exxon MSDS, kerosene has a flash point of 100 F (38
C) and a lower explosive limit of 0.9% in air. Pull a
little too much in the vacuum and BOOM.
> I have some trepidation about using a vacuum cleaner
> and accumulating kerosene fumes in the cannister.
> So far, I have not had a problem. I would recommend
> air-drying the unit by placing it in the sun or
garage or wherever until all the kerosene (that
> wasn't removed by a dry rag) is evaporated as
> opposed to using a vacuum cleaner ["Do as I say, not
> as I do"]. It only takes a few minutes in a good
> sun - at worst, overnight in the garage if the
> weather is inclement. Just make damned sure that
> the kerosene is gone before you "light it up".
> Avoid getting the kerosene on the laminations of any
> transformers or any place where the kerosene might
> tend to NOT evaporate.... just use good common sense.
>
I am glad Rod finally mentioned this. If you are
smart, you will work outdoors. As for taking only a
few minutes in the sun, I would disagree. The vapor
pressure of kerosene at normal room temperature is less
than 0.6% of atmospheric pressure. This means it
evaporates quite slowly. If it gets into semi-sealed
components (Rod mentions transformers, I brought up
potentiometers and toggle switches), it may take days
or weeks to evaporate fully. If you can smell any
kerosene odor, do NOT power up the radio!
Similar things can be said about WD-40 for use on
electronic devices. WD-40 is basically about 70%
Stoddard solvent (a refined kerosene) and the rest
light mineral oil with a little proprietary corrosion
inhibitor. The mineral oil reduces the evaporation of
the kerosene, thus you really should wait quite a while
before turning on a radio after using WD-40 on it. The
same comments about paint and plastics compatibility
apply to WD-40 too. In the spray cans, WD-40 uses
liquefied petroleum gas as the propellant (butane and
propane, mainly). This makes the spray EXTREMELY
flammable. The flash point and lower explosive limit of
WD-40 are slightly higher than straight kerosene.
Kerosene and other solvents do have their place in
Boatanchor cleaning. But they are generally not
suitable for "wholesale" use in every application.
Most chassis clean up fine with simple mechanical
cleaning. Remember there are really no shortcuts, lots
of "elbow grease" is needed to do the job right. Soap
and water work fine in most cleaning situations and a
damp rag can work wonders too. Water will generally
evaporate three times faster than kerosene too. When
you have to remove old grease and wax, however, you may
have to resort to a solvent.
I often use acetone and isopropyl alcohol in certain
cleaning situations. The same comments about attacking
paint and plastic apply even more here, especially with
acetone. Both are quite flammable but neither are
exceptionally toxic. They evaporate quite quickly too.
I prefer to use them outdoors. After waiting a few
minutes, you can usually bring the radio inside and
work on it without the residual acetone or isopropanol
being a fire hazard.
Unfortunately Freon-TF (trichloro-trifluoro-ethane) is
virtually unavailable today because of ozone issues.
It attacked VERY few materials, was a good degreaser,
was nonflammable, had a very low toxicity, evaporated
quickly, had a low viscosity and high density. It even
dissolved silicone greases. Boy, do I miss it!
(*) I am not really a chemist. I am a chemical and
electrical engineer. I work for Eastman Chemical
Company and I design and build custom instrumentation.
73, Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ ornitz@tricon.net
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 23:38:18 -0700
From: Dexter Francis <cwest@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: Any interest in a CX logger?
I have a Mac DX logging program that you may be interested in,
if I can only find the floppie...
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 10:35:25 +0100
From: Jan Axing <janax@algonet.se>
Subject: Re: Cleaning with Kerosene! Watch out!
Ornitz, Barry L wrote:
> I hope someone will place this information on that list
> if my note is not posted there in a day or so.
Barry,
I could not see your post in the Tempe list so I forwarded
it at 0925 UTC.
CC:ed this to the glowbugs list to avoid multiple forwards :-)
Jan, SM5GNN
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:58:43 -0400
From: "Brian Carling" <bry@mnsinc.com>
Subject: Re: Any interest in a CX logger?
I just used Excel and made a file I could print out and send in!
After all, I only made about 35 contacts in three hours of operating!
It is not like November Sweepstakes where you need a computer to
track duplictaes for you etc.
On 5 Feb 98 at 13:39, Carl wrote:
> I've been thinking about putting my software expertise to work in a Ham
> Radio
> project. I'd like to find something to write that nobody else has written
> (good luck, eh?).
> Do any of you think a program to log contacts in the Classic Radio Exchange
> would be
> a good idea? As one option, it could allow you to enter all of your
> equipment ahead of time so that you could easily pick a trasmitter or
> receiver from a "pick" list when you made a contact.
> Do you have any OTHER ideas fora Ham-related program that would do something
> unique?
> TNX in advance es 73,
> Carl K8NU
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> Yaffey Software Development, Inc., "bimusical" Banjo player for One Riot One
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:12:03 -0300 (CLST)
From: Fernando Jorquera <fjorquer@myfamily.org>
Subject: Re: Cleaning with Kerosene! Watch out!
Hi Folks,
>As the "resident chemist and safety guru" (*) on the
>other Boatanchor group, I cringed when I saw this. It
The same occured to me.
>> From: w5hvv@aeneas.net [SMTP:w5hvv@aeneas.net]
>> When I clean a chassis now, I avoid the "total
>> immersion" concept and use a paint brush (and/or a
>> rag, when apropos) and a vacuum cleaner. I put
>> kerosene in a glass jelly jar and use several
>> different paint brush sizes in order to be able to
>> clean the various, sometimes very difficult to get
>> to, places.
>I often use acetone and isopropyl alcohol in certain
>cleaning situations. The same comments about attacking
>paint and plastic apply even more here, especially with
>acetone. Both are quite flammable but neither are
My own experience cleaning vintage radio chassis with isopropyl alcohol was
very good. Does it really attack paint and plastic surfaces? I haven't
experienced this never by myself.
>(*) I am not really a chemist. I am a chemical and
>electrical engineer. I work for Eastman Chemical
>Company and I design and build custom instrumentation.
Thanks, Barry for your comments. Your written teaching abilities are very good!
>
> 73, Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ ornitz@tricon.net
73 for everybody,
Fernando Jorquera
fjorquer@myfamily.org
CE3EII
Santiago, Chile
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:36:37 -0600
From: launerb@crl.com (William H. Launer)
Subject: Re: More RF current indicating devices...
Back in my Novice/ARC-5 days I used a #47 lamp as an output indicator. I
was using an end-fed random wire (around 75 ft. long). For 80m, I simply
shunted the lamp in parallel with about 3 ft. of the antenna at the xmtr
antenna terminal. For 40m, I put it in series with the antenna. In both
cases, I
simply used the xmtr roller inductor and tuned for maximum lamp brilliance.
While it didn't give me a quantitative power indication, it worked well,
and cost virtually nothing.
73, Bill wb0cld
Bill Launer
St. Charles, MO
launerb@crl.com
wb0cld@wb0cld.ampr.org [44.46.66.25]
qrp-l #279 qrp arci #3551
Grid Square EM48RT
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:45:14 -0500
From: "Ornitz, Barry L" <ornitz@eastman.com>
Subject: RE: Cleaning with Kerosene! Watch out!
Hello Fernando. It is a pleasure to hear from you.
You asked:
> My own experience cleaning vintage radio chassis with isopropyl
> alcohol was very good. Does it really
> attack paint and plastic surfaces? I haven't
> experienced this never by myself.
>
Isopropanol will soften some lacquers, especially the
cellulose acetate ones popular in Great Britain. It
does not really dissolve them, but it can leave the
surface looking cloudy. Really old celluloid
(cellulose nitrate) from the days before we went to the
cellulose acetates, propionates, and butyrates can also
be affected. If you have some water in the alcohol,
these problems are lessened. Rubbing alcohol is 70%
isopropanol in water in the USA. Most drug stores also
sell the 91% variety. Either should be good for
cleaning many radios.
Acetone, on the other hand, will attack and dissolve
many paints and plastics. I use it to clean old grease
off switches and bearings which are not harmed by
acetone. But be careful, some plastic insulated rotary
switches will be harmed by acetone.
The thing to remember is to test the cleaning method
first on an area that is not conspicuous. I like to
try any cleaning method on the area normally covered by
a knob skirt. If it hurts the finish, it is not seen
when the knob is installed.
73, Barry WA4VZQ ornitz@eastman.com
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:55:47 -0500 (EST)
From: rdkeys@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu
Subject: Re: More RF current indicating devices... neat ideas!
>
> Back in my Novice/ARC-5 days I used a #47 lamp as an output indicator. I
> was using an end-fed random wire (around 75 ft. long). For 80m, I simply
> shunted the lamp in parallel with about 3 ft. of the antenna at the xmtr
> antenna terminal. For 40m, I put it in series with the antenna. In both
> cases, I
> simply used the xmtr roller inductor and tuned for maximum lamp brilliance.
> While it didn't give me a quantitative power indication, it worked well,
> and cost virtually nothing.
>
> 73, Bill wb0cld
Neat idea. That makes me think if maybe one could take a foot or so
of 450 ohm line and use that as the pickup with the floating lead
going through the lamp to ground. I would expect that to work on
both low and high impedance antennas. Hmmmmm, wasn't there a twinline
indicator based upon something like that back in the 60's? It rings
a bell somewhere.
Another neat indicator is a 40 watt fluorescent lamp (or a smaller one)
on the end of the antenna wire......it gives you visual blinken lampen
and worked fine on an end fed 80M wire back when I was a novice.
Scared the neighborhood, though.....(:+{{.... I got that idea from
my buddy with the breadboard brace of 4CX250B's running a KW on a 65
foot wire on 80M. He used it to tune up with. It glowed VERY brightly
at a KW.
Bob/NA4G
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:00:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Ken Gordon <keng@uidaho.edu>
Subject: 304TL Socket...FOUND!
I visited our Chemistry Department today. After some rummaging around in
dark holes, we found 7ea brand new 304TL/TH sockets, NIB, in the far back
of a lost cupboard.
The nice man in the tech shop gave me one.
These are in their original greenish-blue Johnson boxes with the orange
label, saying (among other things) Tube Socket, One, 124-213.
So, all of you kind people who are rummaging in dark corners/boxes for a
304TL/TH socket can now stop looking, unless you need one(s) for your own
version of the PP Hartley SE oscillator tx. (Hint...)
Ken W7EKB
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