20031206.qrp v03_n126.qrl.20031206 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:03:07 EST From: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: QRP-L digest 3126 QRP-L Digest 3126 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) [162414] paddle choice by Elda & Doug Wilson 2) [162415] New Question pools for exams by "Stuart Rohre" 3) [162416] rtty on 7040 by "n3drk" 4) [162417] FS: Oak Hills WM-1 QRP Wattmeter by "Rich Dailey, N8UX" 5) [162418] Paddle spring by Karl Larsen 6) [162419] WTB: DSW-40 Kit (original model) Unbuilt by David Gauding 7) [162420] Re: paddle choice by Peter Burbank 8) [162421] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers by Richard Lourette 9) [162422] Re: New Question pools for exams by Peter Burbank 10) [162423] spring making site by "David Porter" 11) [162424] Re: rtty on 7040 by "Bob Schreibmaier" 12) [162425] USS Kidd Special Event operation by James R Giammanco 13) [162426] OLD kit announcement.....TT2 by "Rex Harper" 14) [162427] Balun Ferrite Bead Information by "George, W5YR" 15) [162428] Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft XG1 Receiver Test Oscillator/S-Meter Calibrator by "JUNICHI NAKAJIMA" 16) [162429] Re: New Question pools for exams by w9ya 17) [162430] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers by w9ya 18) [162431] Solving the wall wart dilemma by Kenneth Cooperstein 19) [162432] Re: rtty on 7040 by 20) [162433] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers by Karl Larsen 21) [162434] WTB: 6M AM Rig by "Alan Fryer" 22) [162435] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma by "Frank Emens" 23) [162436] Sunday Morning SSB/CW QRP Net by "Ken La Rose" 24) [162437] "Pride Goeth Before a Fall..." by John Sielke 25) [162438] TS440SAT and PS50 Power Supply FS by "Fred \(VE3FAL\)" 26) [162439] Re: OLD kit announcement.....TT2 by "Lee Hopper" 27) [162440] Elmer 160 Next step by "Tom" 28) [162441] Wall Wart Cords by "Mike Duke, K5XU" 29) [162442] Re: Elmer 160 Next step by "John J. McDonough" 30) [162443] New Altoids Tin by "W. Keith Hibbert" 31) [162444] Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by "Andy Palm" 32) [162445] 160 meter test by "Fred \(VE3FAL\)" 33) [162446] Re: Balun Ferrite Bead Information by "James R. Duffey" 34) [162447] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers by Steve.Lawrence@ITWFEG.COM 35) [162448] Fwd: Re: Balun Ferrite Bead Information by Dave Fuller 36) [162449] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by M Taylor 37) [162450] FOX: K5DI Final Log by Karl Larsen 38) [162451] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by "Laurie Landry" 39) [162452] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by "Armin Hachmer" 40) [162453] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma by "KXBill" 41) [162454] Inductor coils and things by "Tom Dufresne" 42) [162455] Tentec, MFJ need new homes by "Hudson, Steve (RBI-US RCD)" 43) [162456] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by John Sielke 44) [162457] Re: paddle choice by "Brad Hedges" 45) [162458] MicroVert Group by Rick McKee 46) [162459] Re: Balun Ferrite Bead Information by George Fremin III 47) [162460] SW20+ by Wayne Rogers 48) [162461] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma by KJ7UN 49) [162462] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by Karl Larsen 50) [162463] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by "Bill Jones" 51) [162464] Re: "ET phone home" ? by 52) [162465] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by "Andy Palm" 53) [162466] SW30+ SW80+ Built - by "Jim Sheldon" 54) [162467] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by Thom LaCosta 55) [162468] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma by "Mike Yetsko" 56) [162469] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by Bruce Muscolino 57) [162470] Re: "Pride Goeth Before a Fall..." by Bruce Muscolino 58) [162471] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by John Sielke 59) [162472] ScQRPion Paddle #10 works! by Karl Larsen 60) [162473] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? by "Jade's Technical Services" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:43:23 -0800 From: Elda & Doug Wilson To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162414] paddle choice Message-ID: <3FD1262B.9030800@nccn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have not seen the Paddlette or Palm paddles and I can't find a web site for the Palm paddle. I'm hoping I can get some feedback from some of you that have used them. I want to use it portable (on a table) and in my Van (parked). I don't want to limit comments to those two paddle. Any help will be appreciated. I would like to get something for $l00 bucks or less. 73, etc. Doug, k 6 r p n retired public nuisance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:20:53 -0600 From: "Stuart Rohre" To: , "QRPp International Membership" Subject: [162415] New Question pools for exams Message-ID: <034301c3bb97$30dab040$4e100a0a@rohredt2000> >From a bulletin: "The Question Pool Committee (QPC) of the National Conference of Volunteer Examiner Coordinators has released a revised and expanded Amateur Radio General class (Element 3) question pool into the public domain. The new question pool becomes effective July 1, 2004, and must be used to generate all General written examinations administered on or after that date. "The pool has been expanded to 432 questions," said ARRL VEC Manager Bart Jahnke, W9JJ, a member of the Question Pool Committee, who notes that all subelements grew slightly. "The largest increase in questions this time around was in our Operating Procedures and Amateur Radio Practices subelements," he said. The General class question pool does not contain any diagrams or symbols. The new Element 3 question pool is available on the ARRL Amateur Exam Question Pools Web page at http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/pools.html in Adobe PDF and ASCII text format. It includes all questions and answers relating to Element 3. The Question Pool Committee now is turning its attention to developing an outline for an updated Amateur Extra class (Element 4) question pool, which will be revised over the next 24 months, Jahnke said. It will go into effect July 1, 2006. The deadline to submit input to the Amateur Extra question pool syllabus is May 1, 2004. Commenters may address specific Element 3 questions as well as inputs to the Element 3 syllabus and question pool to the Question Pool Committee via e-mail at, qpc@arrl.org. NNNN" 432 questions seems to take serious study to pass the General exam. The Extra Class presently made up of old Advanced and Extra Class elements is over 600 questions, also a big bite of study time. I think both insure serious would be hams result. However, if you want your input to new Extra Class pools, here is your chance. I am very pleased they have upgraded operation questions; which is a need, I felt, upon looking into Extra pool two years ago. -Stuart K5KVH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:56:59 -0500 From: "n3drk" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162416] rtty on 7040 Message-ID: <01b801c3bb9c$404175f0$6400a8c0@n3drk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There a rtty contest this evening? Tried to do some qrping and everyway I go there are rtty signals. Maybe we should consider of changing the qrp freq. john ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:05:17 -0500 From: "Rich Dailey, N8UX" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162417] FS: Oak Hills WM-1 QRP Wattmeter Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031205210436.00bb3288@incoming.verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comes with manual. Has a scratch on the rear from letting a coax slip out of my hand - my bad. Otherwise great condition. Will install a new battery and ship it Cont. U.S. for $63. Prefer Paypal, but postal money order ok too. http://www.qsl.net/ka8okh/ohr1a.jpg http://www.qsl.net/ka8okh/ohr2a.jpg http://www.qsl.net/ka8okh/ohr3a.jpg http://www.qsl.net/ka8okh/ohr4a.jpg Thanks for the bw, Rich, N8UX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:29:04 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162418] Paddle spring Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got to the step of putting in the spring step 12. With a pair of longnose pliers I picked up the spring and tried to get it in the place it should go. Then ZAP! The spring went airborn and now I need to order a new spring and wonder what the right way to put it in might be. If I knew what I was looking for I know a good hardware store that might have something like what I lost. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 20:14:48 -0600 From: David Gauding To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162419] WTB: DSW-40 Kit (original model) Unbuilt Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20031205201220.00a0e350@bbs.galilei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Still looking for an unbuilt DSW-40 kit (original model). Many thanks, de Dave, NF0R nf0r@slacc.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:50:24 -0500 From: Peter Burbank To: ewilson@nccn.net, "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162420] Re: paddle choice Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20031205214339.00a2c210@mail.qx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:43 PM 12/5/2003, Elda & Doug Wilson wrote: >I have not seen the Paddlette or Palm paddles and I can't find a web site >for the Palm paddle. I'm hoping I can get some feedback from some of you >that have used them. > >I want to use it portable (on a table) and in my Van (parked). > >I don't want to limit comments to those two paddle. Any help will be >appreciated. I would like to get something for $l00 bucks or less. > >73, etc. > >Doug, k 6 r p n >retired public nuisance > > Doug, Just do a search for Morse Express run by N1FN. I ordered a Palm Paddle a few days ago not that I need one but they look really fine. A google search turns it right up. 73 Pete NV4V ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:59:56 -0500 From: Richard Lourette To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162421] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205215752.00abe9d8@pop3.frontiernet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Does anyone use C++? There is a reasonably priced C++ compiler here http://www.picant.com/c2cpp/cpp.html Rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:55:25 -0500 From: Peter Burbank To: rohre@arlut.utexas.edu, "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162422] Re: New Question pools for exams Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20031205215149.00a1ec70@mail.qx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:20 PM 12/5/2003, Stuart Rohre wrote: >The General class >question pool does not contain any diagrams or symbols. Gosh, I always liked the hoptode question:-) 73 Pete NV4V ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:27:32 -0500 From: "David Porter" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162423] spring making site Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found a site that tells how to make springs. Even the conical springs like are on most straight keys. It is a really great site. And don't forget to read the part on safety!....Twice!! http://home.earthlink.net/~bazillion/intro.html Dave, AA3UR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:01:24 -0500 From: "Bob Schreibmaier" To: Subject: [162424] Re: rtty on 7040 Message-ID: <000f01c3bbad$9ded0b40$6400a8c0@k3ph> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, >There a rtty contest this evening? Tried to do some qrping and everyway I go >there are rtty signals. Maybe we should consider of changing the qrp freq. Methinks you stumbled onto the TARA RTTY Melee (formerly the TARA RTTY Sprint). This is a 48-hour contest where everyone can work everyone (Baudot only). Didn't realize it was that big. 8^{) In any case, a good place to find out about what contests are running on any particular weekend is: http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/ 72/73, ____ / _____ / / ) / / / /____/ ____ /___ (____ ____ /___ /___ / ) / ) / ) ) / / ) / /_____/ /____/ /____/ _____/ (____ / / / . . . +----------------------------------------------+ | Bob Schreibmaier K3PH | E-mail: k3ph@ptd.net | | Kresgeville, PA 18333 | http://www.dxis.org | +----------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 20:21:35 PST From: James R Giammanco To: qrp-l@Lehigh.edu Subject: [162425] USS Kidd Special Event operation Message-ID: <20031205.231225.8263.3.n5ib@juno.com> W5KID, aboard the USS Kidd, DD-661, in Baton Rouge LA will operate Sunday December 7, from 1530 UTC to 2230 UTC commemorating Pearl Harbor Day. Kidd was named for Rear Admiral Isaac Kidd, recipient of a posthumous Medal of Honor for his action aboard his flagship, USS Arizona, 62 years ago this Sunday. Mostly SSB ops, mostly on 20, upwards from 14245. But if I have my druthers we'll spend a fair amount of time in a second station on CW near the QRP spots on 30 m and 20 m. Turns out that HW-9 I posted about yesterday is now fixed, and its present owner says the original owner was an ex Navy radio op, so he's going to give us the rig for the ship. So if you work us CW it might be my K2 #1233, or might be HW-9 #02-54564. 72 Jim N5IB ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:22:31 -0500 From: "Rex Harper" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162426] OLD kit announcement.....TT2 Message-ID: <007501c3bbb0$91f38640$a43ca43f@stickfarmers> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow QRP-afflicted gangue, Now that we have all suffered thru the prolonged waiting for the NEW kit announcement from those crazy scorpions, and settled in with our position in the serial #/distribution que (mine is #45), its time for me to announce that QRPme will be distributing that old time favorite.....The Tuna Tin 2 kit. When Jay and the Ft. Smith group decided to drop the TT2 kitting effort, I asked the retro-thinker who designed the current version of the DeMaw classic, Doug Hendricks if I could continue kitting this kit with all the proceeds going towards the Lobstercon 2004! weekend. He graciously allowed me to continue the kit and we now have them for sale. I know that there must be a million of these kits already out there; but, this little transmitter is a standard. So if you don't already have one, or are in need of a great stocking stuffer for that certain someone, here is just the ticket. The Tuna Tin 2 kit is $15.00 with $3.00 postage to US & Canada (others please Email) in stock! make checks & M.O.s out to Rex Harper or Paypal w1rex@megalink.net 72, W1REX Rex Harper "The Tinman" Rex Harper W1REX QRPme P.O. Box 160 Limerick, Maine 04048 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:26:07 -0600 From: "George, W5YR" To: "kk5na" , "NETXQRP" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162427] Balun Ferrite Bead Information Message-ID: <02a801c3bbb9$7777f540$0401a8c0@PS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of you may be familiar with the W5YR bead balun design that uses five ferrite beads on a length of RG-8X or RG-58 to form a 1:1 current or choke balun. These baluns have proved to be effective on 80 - 10 meters and with the addition of a sixth bead, 160 meter operation is improved at some cost of 10 meter performance. I obtained all the beads for these baluns which I have sold, given away, etc. from Jim Tanner's store but he no longer carries them. However, I did find the Fair-Rite number for the beads and using that traced down a source and technical information. The Fair-Rite part number is 2643540002, and if you go the Mouser website and online catalog you will find them for the sum of $0.56 each in small quantities. Jim was selling them for $0.50 each in sets of four. The Fair-Rite website contains technical papers on the application of the beads for RFI/EMI control. For those unfamiliar with these beads, they are 1.125" long by 0.562" in diameter with an axial hole 0.25" in diameter. They are made of Type 43 material and although Type 73 is usually recommended for HF applications, these seem to work quite well. I have compared them directly with the W2DU balun which uses 50 small beads on a length of coax, and the performance is identical on 80 - 10 meters. I hope this information is useful to those who are looking for a simple but highly effective 1:1 current balun. I use three of them to transition from ladderlines to coaxes to tuners on 80 through 10 meters. They are real Fox Gitters! 73, George W5YR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:13:04 +0900 From: "JUNICHI NAKAJIMA" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162428] Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft XG1 Receiver Test Oscillator/S-Meter Calibrator Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, I recently built the N-Gen noise generator. This is an excellent product ! The $39 unit totally replaced $2000 over HP noise source in radioastronomy site. Prepare a small injection probe, then it will cure receivers in trouble. Please note this is below 500MHz (possibly 1000MHz OK) . HP noise source is calibrated upto 10GHz. But usually we do not need this. JL1KRA/AA3ZT Junichi Nakajima _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 05:18:41 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162429] Re: New Question pools for exams Message-ID: <200312060518.41694.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 05 December 2003 09:55 pm, Peter Burbank wrote: > At 08:20 PM 12/5/2003, Stuart Rohre wrote: > >The General class > >question pool does not contain any diagrams or symbols. > > Gosh, > I always liked the hoptode question:-) > 73 Pete NV4V Me too. Perhaps we can get together a petition and see if it can be left in ? Anonymous (...well kinda anonymous) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 05:20:00 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162430] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers Message-ID: <200312060520.00035.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 05 December 2003 09:59 pm, Richard Lourette wrote: > Does anyone use C++? There is a reasonably priced C++ compiler here > http://www.picant.com/c2cpp/cpp.html > > Rich gcc is free and is an amazingly good c++ compiler from what I can see. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:31:31 -0500 From: Kenneth Cooperstein To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162431] Solving the wall wart dilemma Message-ID: <3FD1CC23.4040800@att.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have seen an inexpensive product consisting of six (I think) very short (under 1 ft.) extension cords that let you put a wall wart on every outlet of a convenience strip. It was far less expensive than DIY. Only thing is, I can't remember what catalog I saw it in. Anyone know? Ken KC2JDY ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:14:59 -0500 From: To: Subject: [162432] Re: rtty on 7040 Message-ID: <000801c3bbfa$f4bf4620$9f25ad80@f1n5n8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John and the gang, For those interested in getting their feet wet in RTTY operations, the TARA RTTY Melee is a great way to make some quick RTTY contacts. For details, see: http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_melee_rules.html Just for fun, I made one stateside RTTY contact on 14084 KHz in this contest last evening using the DSWMULTI project. Copied SEVERAL Japanese RTTY stations on 20 but didn't work any. Haven't tried 40...yet :) For info on the DSWMULTI project, please see: http://www.n4qa.com/dswmulti/dswmulti.html 73. Bill, N4QA http://www.n4qa.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:17:56 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: Richard Lourette Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162433] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Richard Lourette wrote: > Does anyone use C++? There is a reasonably priced C++ compiler here I use C++ and it's important to get a compiler that is correct to the 1998 revisal of the code. This change is subtle. But it is also important for your code to be portable to other users. In Linux the new code was applied to Red Hat 9. > http://www.picant.com/c2cpp/cpp.html > I went to the above web page and looked at the example and what these guys are selling is a very narrow compiler that has been developed to work with small computers. This may be what you want but I would not be able to use it. Also it can be used with plain C code as well. So you can write in C and get around the new C++ changes. > Rich > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:20:42 -0500 From: "Alan Fryer" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162434] WTB: 6M AM Rig Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone on the list have a surplus 6M AM rig ? I'm trying to spur some activity here and need a couple of more rigs. Clegg 66er, Gonset G-50, Polycomm, or ?? Please let me know if you have one that is unused. Would consider a non-working unit. Alan, N3BJ Bent Mountain, VA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:26:59 -0600 From: "Frank Emens" To: cprstn54@att.net Cc: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162435] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma Message-ID: <3FD184C3.6290.ECAD9@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Check Jameco's catalog. They have short 12" extensions and they also have double extensions that will allow connecting 2 wall-warts to one position on an outlet strip. Real lifesavers these days when almost everything has its own wall-wart. -- Frank Emens femens@hiwaay.net Huntsville, Alabama ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:52:50 -0500 From: "Ken La Rose" To: , "QRP-Canada" Cc: "John Evelyn" , "Jim Wilson" , Subject: [162436] Sunday Morning SSB/CW QRP Net Message-ID: <001901c3bc00$3d74c2f0$b59fc018@D1YQV721> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Last week the net was conducted from our portable location in the Haliburton Highlands, where we operated three QRP stations in the DX contest. Participants were: VE3RLX Ric in Brantford VE3OSC John VA3JE op at Ontario Science Centre, Toronto VE3QF Tony in Scarborough VE3JC John in London VE3TKF Terry in Gravenhurst VE3ELA Ken NCS Thanks also to all the guys who took a listen for us, hopefully propagation will allow us to connect this week. Listen tomorrow on 7.067 MHz at 9:30 am (1430Z). I'll be operating LSB, but welcome CW stations to check in from anywhere! Thanks, 73 de Ken VE3ELA P.S. So, how'd we do in the contest, you ask? Here is a rundown from Jim VE3KQN, our leader and host for the weekend: Last weekend (Nov. 29/30) Ken (ELA), Garry (REP) and myself (KQN) went up to the Haliburtons to operate the CQWWDXCW contest. We left Ajax in rain on the Friday morning and by the time we got to Minden it was snowing. It snowed for the rest of the weekend until we had to take down the stations and it was then raining. Overall we had abt 4 inches of wet snow. We had 3 stations set up: Argosy 509 (5W) and multiband fan dipoles Elecraft K1/K2 (5W) and a Windom Wilderness radio Sierra (1 to 3W) and a Windom We worked the contest, sat and talked, went for a walk, ate, ate, ate and then more radio. Our results on the 5 bands were: Total different Entities (all bands) - 65 Total number of Contacts (all bands) - 487 10m 15m 20m 40m 80m 160m Canada 0 2 0 1 1 2 USA / N/A 20 11 37 31 89 28 DX 105 79 40 39 2 0 Entities 35 37 31 20 4 2 Zones 17 14 12 9 5 2 Claimed Score (until CQ whittles it down) 190068 Lots of fun...72 (Jim) P.P.S. It was great to see Armin VE3TEQ, who drove through the snow to visit and bring us doughnuts. Thanks, buddy! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:12:28 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162437] "Pride Goeth Before a Fall..." Message-ID: <3FD1E3CC.9070903@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah, yes. After my bragging post yesterday, I find this morning that one side of my FW Loop is down. It weathered Hurricane Isabelle, and several Northeasters, and all last winter's storms, but the heavy wet snow yesterday got it! Probably struck down because of my prideful post. It is snowing hard now, and 26 degrees. Flying in the face of tradition, I am NOT going out to work on it! This was the antenna I fell off the garage roof 2 years ago putting up. Don't need that again. Will wait for a 50+ degree day. ;-) Can hardly wait for my paddle (#66) to arrive so I can also lose the spring and tell you all about it. What fun! John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:24:14 -0500 From: "Fred \(VE3FAL\)" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" , Subject: [162438] TS440SAT and PS50 Power Supply FS Message-ID: <00ef01c3bc04$a03b0760$df05d3d8@flesnick> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gang: Not QRP but I do have the following for sale or trade should anyone be interested. I have a TS440SAT and PS50 power supply for sale... Rig works, top of case is showing some scratches and sign of age( well, been used what does one expect). I would like to sell this or trade for a TS140 if anyone is looking at a swap... Email me directly if interested... Thanks Fred VE3FAL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:57:51 -0800 From: "Lee Hopper" To: , "Posting to the list QRP-L" Subject: [162439] Re: OLD kit announcement.....TT2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There once was a young man named Rex Who's radio could only Tx He found the receive Rather easy to achieve >From the fillings he had in his teeth. ..we'll stop when you move to another town! 73 - Lee Hopper, NB7F Portland, OR ----- Original Message ----- Rex Harper, W1REX wrote: > > ...The Tuna Tin 2 kit is $15.00 with $3.00 postage to US & Canada (others > please Email) > > > Rex Harper W1REX > QRPme > P.O. Box 160 > Limerick, Maine 04048 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:30:25 -0500 From: "Tom" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [162440] Elmer 160 Next step Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody know when the next lesson will be coming out? I have been trying to play with the tutorial that comes with MPLAB, but my simulator project fails in the build stage. If I had any kind of background with this kind of thing I could probably figure it out, but as I am a newbee to these things I'm just lost... 73, de Tom kf4yyd Fredericksburg Virginia SW-40+/ZM-2/El Cheapo Straight Key IDHACWID* QRP Club #1 *I Don't Have A Clue What I'm Doing ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:31:05 -0600 From: "Mike Duke, K5XU" To: "qrp list" Subject: [162441] Wall Wart Cords Message-ID: <000d01c3bc0f$ea600b00$83d0a418@jam.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Radio Shack also had one or two models. I don't know if they still carry them. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:06:26 -0500 From: "John J. McDonough" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Cc: Subject: [162442] Re: Elmer 160 Next step Message-ID: <009d01c3bc12$e7653a30$090044c0@BrianBoru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The next lesson is due this weekend, however, the web master might not be able to get it on the site right away. We plan to put up a lesson each weekend, with the possible exception of the weekend before Christmas. If it looks like some folks have trouble keeping up, we'll skip that one so that family duties don't make it harder. Lesson 3 is a pretty simple one, but 4 and 5 will take a bit more time. If folks have no trouble with 4 and 5, then we will continue the once a week without a break. 72/73 de WB8RCR http://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:30 AM Subject: Elmer 160 Next step > Anybody know when the next lesson will be coming out? I have been trying to > play with the tutorial that comes with MPLAB, but my simulator project fails > in the build stage. If I had any kind of background with this kind of thing > I could probably figure it out, but as I am a newbee to these things I'm > just lost... > > 73, de Tom kf4yyd Fredericksburg Virginia > > SW-40+/ZM-2/El Cheapo Straight Key > IDHACWID* QRP Club #1 > > *I Don't Have A Clue What I'm Doing > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:07:45 -0500 From: "W. Keith Hibbert" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162443] New Altoids Tin Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20031206110035.009e9b80@pop3.frontiernet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed For all of my fellow QRP-L'ers who just CAN'T look at an Altoid tin without trying to firgure what project will fit within, there's a new player on the block Altoids Gum The tin is 1 3/8" x 3 1/2" with a slightly domed top and concave bottom. The bottom section is 5/8" deep at the outer edges. The corners are rounded. Oh yeah, the gum really KICS! If you have a cold, this stuff will drain your sinuses in seconds! Mounting a board will be interesting but not impossible. I picked mine up at the local Wal mart and Wegmans and Tops supermarkets also carry the gum. 73. Keith, WB2VUO, Trustee of the NQ2RP/B 10-Meter Beacon 28.2873 MHz on Your Radio Dial - 24/7 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:21:13 -0600 From: "Andy Palm" To: Subject: [162444] Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <001301c3bc14$f81688a0$fc98ee42@andy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An earlier message noted RTTY on 7.040. I'm even more concerned about those darn Canadian SSB ops who are moving in just above 7.040. I was having a most pleasant chat in the evening on 7.043 with a ham on Long Island when an SSB op jumped in and started squawking on top of us. They are starting to act like they own the joint. So do we fight to keep 7.040 (yeah, I know--it isn't really ours by birthright) or do we let rude jerks drive us off to another frequency? Any opinions out there? I may start spending more time in the Extra subband, which is where those QRO Phone People probably want to drive us to anyway. Somewhat miffed, and sorry in advance for any offense given, Andy N1KSN Menasha, WI ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:22:46 -0500 From: "Fred \(VE3FAL\)" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" , Subject: [162445] 160 meter test Message-ID: <011901c3bc15$2faabe80$df05d3d8@flesnick> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Played only for about 1 hour total so far on 160 test, worked 17 stations. Will play a bit tonight after I get home, had a xmas party last night and one tonight... Look for some of you folks on 160, it is a great band and be surprised at the contacts you can make. Running 5 watts from FT817 into 160 meter dipole. Fred VE3FAL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:45:57 -0700 From: "James R. Duffey" To: Cc: QRP-L Subject: [162446] Re: Balun Ferrite Bead Information Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit George - That is a very nice simple balun made from easily obtainable parts. Congratulations on the design and, more importantly, making it available to all. I am curious if you have measured the choking impedance it presents to the antenna? Also, have you measured the loss using Witt's antenna tuner technique? I ask these questions for two reasons: 1. No offense, but your's seems to be a bit shorter than most. The W2DU bead balun shown in the Antenna Book is 9.5 inches long for example, and N6BV's in the same book is 12 inches long. I know that W8JI and others (Bill Coleman on this list) have recommended even longer bead lengths at times. Unlike other hobbies, size can matter in antennas and baluns. :^) 2. Those baluns made from type 77 material show the greatest impedance at very low frequencies. The one in the Antenna Book has its highest impedence at 80 M and goes down from there, so if using the -43 material moves the peak to higher frequencies, that would be better for us. Have you run the balun at higher than QRP powers? If so does it get warm? Again, nice design and thanks for sharing it. - Dr. Megacycle KK6MC/5 ______________________ James R. Duffey KK6MC/5 Cedar Crest NM 87009 DM65 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:40:01 -0500 From: Steve.Lawrence@ITWFEG.COM To: "John J. McDonough" Cc: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162447] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Curious bit of news I dug up... For real? 73, Steve aa8af ;-) ---------------------------------------------------- Creators Admit Unix and C Language Hoax In an announcement that stunned the computer industry, Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernighan admitted the Unix operating system and C programming language created by them is an elaborate prank, kept alive over 20 years. Speaking at the recent UnixWorld Software Development Forum, Thompson revealed the following: "In 1969, AT&T had just terminated their work with the GE/Honeywell/AT&T Multics project. Brian and I had started work withan early release of Pascal from Professor Niklaus Wirth's ETH labs in Switzerland and we were impressed with its elegant simplicity and power. Dennis had just finished reading 'Bored of the Rings', a National Lampoon parody of the Tolkien's 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy. As a lark, we decided to do parodies of the Multics environment and Pascal. Dennis and I were responsible for the operating environment. We looked at Multics and designed the new OS to be as complex and cryptic as possible to maximize casual users' frustration levels, calling it Unix as a parody of Multics, as well as other more risque allusions. We sold the terse command language to novitiates by telling them that it saved them typing." Then Dennis and Brian worked on a warped version of Pascal, called 'A'. 'A' looked a lot like Pascal, but elevated the notion of the direct memory address (which Wirth had banished) to the central concept of the language. This was Dennis's contribution, and he in fact coined the term "pointer" as an innocuous sounding name for a truly malevolent construct. Brian must be credited with the idea of having absolutely no standard I/O specification: this ensured that at least 50% of the typical commercial program would have to be recoded when changing hardware platforms. Brian was also responsible for pitching this lack of I/O as a feature: it allowed us to describe the language as "truly portable". When we found others were actually creating real programs with A, we removed compulsory type-checking on function arguments. Later, we added a notion we called "casting": this allowed the programmer to treat an integer as though it were a 50k user-defined structure. When we found that some programmers were simply not using pointers, we eliminated the ability to pass structures to functions, enforcing their use in even the Simplest applications. We sold this, and many other features, as enhancements to the efficiency of the language. In this way, our prank evolved into B, BCPL, and finally C. We stopped when we got a clean compile on the following syntax: for (;P("\n"),R-;P("|"))for(e=3DC;e-;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("|"+(*u/4)%2); At one time, we joked about selling this to the Soviets to set their computer science progress back 20 or more years. Unfortunately, AT&T and other US corporations actually began using Unix and C. We decided we'd better keep mum, assuming it was just a passing phase. In fact, it's taken US companies over 20 years to develop enough expertise to generate useful applications using this 1960's technological parody. We are impressed with the tenacity of the general Unix and C programmer. In fact, Brian, Dennis and I have never ourselves attempted to write a commercial application in this environment. We feel really guilty about the chaos, confusion and truly awesome programming projects that have resulted from our silly prank so long ago." Dennis Ritchie said: "What really tore it (just when AIDA was catching on), was that Bjarne Stroustrup caught onto our joke. He extended it to further parody, Smalltalk. Like us, he was caught by surprise when nobody laughed. So he added multiple inheritance, virtual base classes, and later ... templates. All to no avail. So we now have compilers that can compile 100,000 lines per second, but need to process header files for 25 minutes before they get to the meat of "Hello, World". Major Unix and C vendors and customers, including AT&T, Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard, GTE, NCR, and DEC have refused to comment on the announcement. Officials of Borland International, a leading vendor of object-oriented tools, including Turbo Pascal and Borland C++, stated they suspected this for a couple of years. In fact, the notoriously late Quattro Pro for Windows was originally written in C++. Borland CEO Del Yocam said: "I'm told that, after two and a half years of programming, and massive programmer burn-out, we recoded the whole thing in Turbo Pascal in three months. It's fair to say that Turbo Pascal saved our bacon back then". Another Borland spokesman said that they would continue to enhance their Pascal products, and halt further efforts to develop C/C++. Professor Wirth of the ETH institute and father of the Pascal, Modula 2 and Oberon structured languages, cryptically said "P.T. Barnum was right." He had no further comments. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:25:11 -0700 From: Dave Fuller To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162448] Fwd: Re: Balun Ferrite Bead Information Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20031206112327.0243f830@mail.spinn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed If either of your guys want to test some baluns I have a network analyzer available. Dave WD7Z >George - That is a very nice simple balun made from easily obtainable parts. >Congratulations on the design and, more importantly, making it available to >all. > >I am curious if you have measured the choking impedance it presents to the >antenna? Also, have you measured the loss using Witt's antenna tuner >technique? > >I ask these questions for two reasons: > >1. No offense, but your's seems to be a bit shorter than most. The W2DU >bead balun shown in the Antenna Book is 9.5 inches long for example, and >N6BV's in the same book is 12 inches long. I know that W8JI and others (Bill >Coleman on this list) have recommended even longer bead lengths at times. >Unlike other hobbies, size can matter in antennas and baluns. :^) > >2. Those baluns made from type 77 material show the greatest impedance at >very low frequencies. The one in the Antenna Book has its highest impedence >at 80 M and goes down from there, so if using the -43 material moves the >peak to higher frequencies, that would be better for us. > >Have you run the balun at higher than QRP powers? If so does it get warm? > >Again, nice design and thanks for sharing it. - Dr. Megacycle KK6MC/5 >______________________ >James R. Duffey KK6MC/5 >Cedar Crest NM 87009 DM65 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:41:21 +0000 From: M Taylor To: Andy Palm Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162449] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <20031206184121.A12646@pull.privacy.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 10:21:13AM -0600, Andy Palm wrote: > An earlier message noted RTTY on 7.040. I'm even more concerned about those > darn Canadian SSB ops who are moving in just above 7.040. I was having a > most pleasant chat in the evening on 7.043 with a ham on Long Island when an > SSB op jumped in and started squawking on top of us. They are starting to > So do we fight to keep 7.040 (yeah, I know--it isn't really ours by > birthright) or do we let rude jerks drive us off to another frequency? Any I will note that there is no legal subbands in Canada, the band plan is voluntary, and normally is observed. From time to time any ham can make a mistake or be unaware of all the rules, band plans, etc and the best way to co-operate with these operators is a friendly "hi, this frequency range is normally CW, and around 7.040 is normally used for QRP CW, could you please QSY into the suggested SSB frequency range? Better chance of a SSB contact there." The band plans work based upon polite co-operation, and it a polite request is far more effective than a comment like "rude jerks". Of course you might find one of the 0.1% of hams that really are rude or trying to be a jerk, but other other 99.9% will gladly work together to keep ham radio fun. -ve3tix ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:46:25 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162450] FOX: K5DI Final Log Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Log of Karl K5DI, Low Fox on December 2 evening. Things were fine until the flare hit the earth. Please send me any errors you would like corrected. I have been Fox 2 times last year and I do make a lot of errors. Sorry. Here is a much corrected log. Please check that my corrections are correct. Time Call Report 0202 N9NE 559 WI TODD 5W 0205 W5TB 559 TX DOC 5W 0206 N1FN 559 CO ET 5W 0207 KL7V 559 OK SAM 5W 0208 N0UR 579 MN JIM 5W 0209 K5JHP 559 TX BILL 5W 0210 KT5V 559 TX DAVID 5W 0211 K3PH 559 PA BOB 5W 0212 K5OI 559 OK TIM 5W 0213 W9XU 559 WI LON 5W 0214 W5YR 559 TX GEORGE 5W 0215 N0EA 559 MO WAYNE 5W 0216 W9XT 559 WI GARY 5W 0217 KI0II 559 CO RON 5W 0218 N0DT 559 MO DAN 5W 0219 WA9TZE 559 WI JIM 5W 0220 N0TK 559 CO DAN 5W 0221 W0CH 559 MO DAVE 5W 0222 AC5JH 559 OK TOM 5W 0225 N4ROA 559 VA DAN 5W 0226 N9AU 559 WI RON 5W 0227 K3ESE 559 MD LLOYD 5W 0229 W0UFO 559 MN MERT 5W 0230 WB8YYY 559 MD CURT 5W 0231 K5EOD 559 LA WAYNE 5W 0232 K2ZN 559 NY AL 5W 0233 NK6A 559 CA DON 5W 0235 N0JRN 559 MO JERRY 5W 0236 AA5O 559 LA VERN 5W 0237 N1TP 559 FL TOM 5W 0238 AJ4AY 559 AL JAY 5W 0239 K6VNX 559 CA ARLEN 5W 0242 N9AW 559 WI JERRY 5W 0244 K6XR 559 CA REGGIE 5W 0245 KD5UDB 559 LA CHRIS 5W 0246 N3GOV 559 MD STEVE 5W 0247 N9KW 559 IL JOHN 5W 0248 N4DD 559 TN DENNIS 5W 0251 W4FOA 579 GA TONY 5W 0252 N5IB 559 LA JIM 5W 0254 N3BJ 559 VA ALAN 3W 0255 K9IS 559 WI STEVE 5W 0300 KB9YIG 559 IN TONY 2W 0307 AF4PP 559 GA CHUCK 5W 0308 AG4PJ 559 AL DAVE 5W 0310 NV4V 559 KY PETE 5W 0312 K9NX 559 IND TIM 5W 0320 KB8BHG 559 WV LEE 5W 0324 WA8BXN 559 OH MIKE 5W 0325 AG0T 559 ND TOOD 5W 0336 K7TQ 559 ID RANDY 5W 0340 NK9G 559 WI RICK 5W 0341 KD5UDB 559 LA CHRIS 5W DUPE 0344 WA9TZE 559 WI JIM 5W DUPE 0345 AB9CA 559 AL DAVE 5W 0347 W9HL 559 IL RANDY 5W 0348 K9DI 559 IL WAYNE 5W 0400 KV2X TOM FOX 0400 K5DI KARL FOX -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:57:43 -0400 From: "Laurie Landry" To: "Andy Palm" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162451] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <008c01c3bc2a$d4fb6780$d228a50a@nbtel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, Yes it's very unpleasant when someone starts squawking on top of you. But it's also very informational to listen across the bands to learn from what country most of the "rude jerks" come from. A good place to start listening is on the 20m. band. Laurie, VE1AWJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Palm" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:21 PM Subject: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? > An earlier message noted RTTY on 7.040. I'm even more concerned about those > darn Canadian SSB ops who are moving in just above 7.040. I was having a > most pleasant chat in the evening on 7.043 with a ham on Long Island when an > SSB op jumped in and started squawking on top of us. They are starting to > act like they own the joint. > > So do we fight to keep 7.040 (yeah, I know--it isn't really ours by > birthright) or do we let rude jerks drive us off to another frequency? Any > opinions out there? I may start spending more time in the Extra subband, > which is where those QRO Phone People probably want to drive us to anyway. > > Somewhat miffed, and sorry in advance for any offense given, > Andy N1KSN > Menasha, WI > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:21:16 -0500 From: "Armin Hachmer" To: "Andy Palm" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162452] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <002c01c3bc2e$1f3e4d00$776c7bd8@muskoka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Andy, you sound supermiffed. Sometimes on 7.055 which is where a Canadian SSB net is on all day, a CW station comes on and makes things fun. My guess iss they can not hear the SSB When i operate CW mobile with a Icom 706, i am often blasted by another CW coming on with QRL? and no matter what i reply, away he goes. Again i think he does not hear me with his filters on. The problem for me is...i aint got no filters on the 706. Armin VE3TEQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Palm" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? > An earlier message noted RTTY on 7.040. I'm even more concerned about those > darn Canadian SSB ops who are moving in just above 7.040. I was having a > most pleasant chat in the evening on 7.043 with a ham on Long Island when an > SSB op jumped in and started squawking on top of us. They are starting to > act like they own the joint. > > So do we fight to keep 7.040 (yeah, I know--it isn't really ours by > birthright) or do we let rude jerks drive us off to another frequency? Any > opinions out there? I may start spending more time in the Extra subband, > which is where those QRO Phone People probably want to drive us to anyway. > > Somewhat miffed, and sorry in advance for any offense given, > Andy N1KSN > Menasha, WI > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:23:06 -0700 From: "KXBill" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162453] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma Message-ID: <002701c3bc2e$6048b100$76d70344@ph.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another approach would be to pick up some short extension cords at your local 99 cent store. Cut them to the length desired and reconnect. Now you will have three for one. Cheers too all Bill_w7kxb__. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Emens" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 06:26 Subject: Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma > Check Jameco's catalog. They have short 12" extensions and they also have double > extensions that will allow connecting 2 wall-warts to one position on an outlet strip. > Real lifesavers these days when almost everything has its own wall-wart. > -- > Frank Emens > femens@hiwaay.net > Huntsville, Alabama > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:31:27 +0000 From: "Tom Dufresne" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162454] Inductor coils and things Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Folks; I need a slug tuned coil. It has to be "nominally 4.5 uH" Apparently the coil I was using was signicantly larger than that. (5mH...Hmmm...) I can get the slugged coil form from Antique Electrical supply or even Ocean State. Here's a link for visuals.. http://www.tubesandmore.com/images/inv/P-C210.GIF This is very close to what looks to be the right coil. I think JW Miller made 'em a few decades(?) ago. So, how to figure the amount of windings? Harry from Harry's Homebrew mentions a rough formula that uses the same windings as per the number of meters in the desired signal range. So for 40 meters it would be 40, etc. Can it be that easy? I thought I had to know lots of other numbers......diameter, wire size, etc. Help please! Thanks in advance for any an all help... PS: Yes I have read and looked at my manuals. Yes I have asked other hams. Yes I have actually researched this on the net. Most formulae I have found look like they are for crystal set main coils or something, so please no FLAMES!!! (sheepish grin) Thanks! Tom >From: M Taylor >Reply-To: mctylr@privacy.nb.ca >To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" >Subject: Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? >Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:41:21 +0000 > >On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 10:21:13AM -0600, Andy Palm wrote: > > An earlier message noted RTTY on 7.040. I'm even more concerned about >those > > darn Canadian SSB ops who are moving in just above 7.040. I was having >a > > most pleasant chat in the evening on 7.043 with a ham on Long Island >when an > > SSB op jumped in and started squawking on top of us. They are starting >to > > > So do we fight to keep 7.040 (yeah, I know--it isn't really ours by > > birthright) or do we let rude jerks drive us off to another frequency? >Any > >I will note that there is no legal subbands in Canada, the band plan is >voluntary, and normally is observed. From time to time any ham can make >a mistake or be unaware of all the rules, band plans, etc and the best >way to co-operate with these operators is a friendly "hi, this frequency >range is normally CW, and around 7.040 is normally used for QRP CW, >could you please QSY into the suggested SSB frequency range? Better chance >of a SSB contact there." > >The band plans work based upon polite co-operation, and it a polite >request is far more effective than a comment like "rude jerks". Of course >you might find one of the 0.1% of hams that really are rude or trying to be >a jerk, but other other 99.9% will gladly work together to keep ham radio >fun. > >-ve3tix _________________________________________________________________ Wonder if the latest virus has gotten to your computer? Find out. Run the FREE McAfee online computer scan! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:22:08 -0500 From: "Hudson, Steve (RBI-US RCD)" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162455] Tentec, MFJ need new homes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Some nice Tentec gear need new homes (wedding bills to pay): 1. Delta 580 with Tentec supply. Covers 160-10 but needs accessory crystals to cover 17 and 12. Front panel power control down to less than a watt. Beautiful condition, works like a champ. With manuals. $300. 2. Century 22. It includes the Tentec calibrator and keyer options. Beautiful condition, works great. Also includes the matching Tentec power supply. Covers 80-40-30-20-15-10. CW only. Power front-panel adjustable down to zero. $250. 3) Tentec Model 604 keyer. The one with the built-in magnetic paddle. Works fine. $30 4) MFJ 20-meter QRP SSB transceiver. With mike. Great condition, works fine. $150 Plus shipping/ins from 30004. Thanks, Steve AA4BW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:23:21 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162456] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <3FD23AB9.9010206@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Andy, > Yes it's very unpleasant when someone starts squawking on top of you. But > it's also very informational to listen across the bands to learn from what > country most of the "rude jerks" come from. A good place to start listening > is on the 20m. band. > > Laurie, VE1AWJ > There was an old movie based on the premise of a war between the US and Canada. I can't remember the name of it. Looks like we are heading that way. Let's keep peaceful folks. We need good relations with Canada. We might need a place for our draft-dodgers to go again sometime in the future. And where are my fellow seniors goimg to find cheap prescriptions? John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:23:04 -0500 From: "Brad Hedges" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162457] Re: paddle choice Message-ID: <004701c3bc36$c1760920$e8272118@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's a link to Palm's page at Morse Express. I really like the look of the Palm Paddles and *plan* to get a set, but don't have any and haven't used any, only read reports that they are pretty good paddles. 73, K0BHC http://mtechnologies.com/palm/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elda & Doug Wilson" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: paddle choice > I have not seen the Paddlette or Palm paddles and I can't find a web > site for the Palm paddle. I'm hoping I can get some feedback from some > of you that have used them. > > I want to use it portable (on a table) and in my Van (parked). > > I don't want to limit comments to those two paddle. Any help will be > appreciated. I would like to get something for $l00 bucks or less. > > 73, etc. > > Doug, k 6 r p n > retired public nuisance > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:03:08 -0500 From: Rick McKee To: mqfd@smartgroups.com, fpqrp-l@fpqrp.com, qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162458] MicroVert Group Message-ID: <20031206.160320.9526.0.kc8aon@juno.com> Hey Folks ! Looks like Bob has reopened his MicroVert group with Smartgroups ! The URL is: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/MicroVert/ The MicroVert is a small but efficient antenna, and I plan on building one for 30 meters as soon as the holiday rush is over, plus I have to be out of town the week of the 15th ! The 30 meter version uses a radiator that is only 18.30 inches long, so it would be great for antenna restricted neighborhoods and as a travel antenna or for a quick field day setup ! Bob has put a lot of work into figureing out this little animal, and his desire is to help get hams on the air that are living in antenna restricted areas ! So, if you like to tinker with antennas, check out the MicroVert group and do what you can as far as building, testing, and then posting the info for everyones benefit. 72/73 de: Rick McKee, KC8AON <> Willow Wood, Ohio <> Grid: EM88rl SW-20+, SW-30+, SW-40+, Norcal BLT, Yaesu FT-7, Homebrew 6V6 tube TX QRP-L #2112, FPqrp #33, AR QRP, AmQRP, Ohio Valley Fists, Zombie #718, MQFD #1 For info on MQFD, go to: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/mqfd I'll give up CW & QRP when I'm dead ! MAYBE ! didididadidah ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:18:17 -0600 From: George Fremin III To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162459] Re: Balun Ferrite Bead Information Message-ID: <20031206211817.GA20776@kkn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:45:57AM -0700, James R. Duffey wrote: > George - That is a very nice simple balun made from easily obtainable parts. > Congratulations on the design and, more importantly, making it available to > all. > This is very much like what I use. I just slide the beads over my RG-213 coax at the feedpoint. I do run 1.5 kw through these. So 77 (gets hot) vs. 43 is important. Here are the details from W0UN. > FB-43-1020 from Amidon 1.0" dia, 1.12" long, 0.50" hole > > Don't use the 77 version--it looks better on paper (higher mu) > but gets hot. 8 beads will get you from 10-60 MHz. And probably > OK to 7 MHz--but I would use 10 or 12 on 7 MHz to be safe > and probably 15 or so to be sure on 80M. Haven't run any tests > on 160 yet so I don't know the right answer. And I am > doing this from memory--the testing I did (with an HP-4195 > network/spectrum analyzer) was done 6 or 7 years ago > and the notes are packed up somewhere. Just go with 8 or > so for tribanders and a few more for 40M antennas. > > www.amidoncorp.com > > or through www.bytemark.com (direct to Amidon is better) > > Price is about $2 a bead in small quantities. > > I don't use connectors--either just slip the beads in some giant > heat shrink and run the coax through--or I cover it with > PVC pipe. Connectors just add reliability issues--and since > you will probably be using lugs on the end of the coax > (for a split driven element) there is no need. Of course it > all depends on what you are hooking things to. > > Basically $16 for a balun that works very well through the > high-bands. > > JB -- George Fremin III - K5TR geoiii@kkn.net http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:19:47 -0600 From: Wayne Rogers To: qrp-l@lehigh.EDU Subject: [162460] SW20+ Message-ID: <20031206.151947.-1711949.0.w5kdj@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SW-20+ and enclosure both unbuilt and in packages as received. $85.00 built: $100.00 shipping included. Wayne_W5KDJ ex: SV0WWW_TF2WJN CW only ARS_1392 ARCI_11325 FP-626 e-QSL FISTS_10060 SOC_538 HQRP ARRL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:26:47 -0700 From: KJ7UN To: femens@hiwaay.net, Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162461] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit They have them at www.cyberguys.com. -- 73 de KJ7UN On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:26:59 -0600, Frank Emens wrote: > Check Jameco's catalog. They have short 12" extensions and they also > have double > extensions that will allow connecting 2 wall-warts to one position on an > outlet strip. > Real lifesavers these days when almost everything has its own wall-wart. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:35:32 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: Andy Palm Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162462] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Andy Palm wrote: > An earlier message noted RTTY on 7.040. I'm even more concerned about those > darn Canadian SSB ops who are moving in just above 7.040. I was having a For years we have had non-ham ssb interferance on 7040 from the Mexican Farm and Ranch Network. I speak spanish and it's fun to listen to a young boy and girl planning to meet again when both are going to be in town...:-) > > Somewhat miffed, and sorry in advance for any offense given, > Andy N1KSN > Menasha, WI > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:37:32 -0800 From: "Bill Jones" To: "Andy Palm" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162463] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <001d01c3bc41$28973480$9434bbd0@RadioRoom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andy, The topic of changing the 40 meter calling frequency is a common thread here. It seems to show up once or twice every year. If nothing else, I've learned the following: 1. There is no better place than 7.040 mHz as a QRP calling frequency 2. There is no worse place than 7.040 mHz as a QRP calling frequency 3. If you get clobbered while on 7.040 mHz, move somewhere else. ======================== Bill Jones KD7S <>< http://www.psnw.com/~kd7s Sanger, California ======================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:45:54 -0500 (EST) From: To: DTX Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162464] Re: "ET phone home" ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII these days it's blue-green laser from a satellite ... isn't everything below 7kHz unallocated (fair game)? -bob On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, DTX wrote: > ELF as in 300 to 3000 Hz? Even so, to my knowledge the ears do not hear > electromagnetic radiation no matter how low the frequency. Perhaps being in > the "near field" of a 200KW transmitter feeding an antenna at 3kHz might > cause physiological effects, i.e. a throbbing sensation in the head ;-) > > I did not see that show, but a few nights ago I did see a History Channel > program that described the Looking Glass airborne SAC command center. They > fed 200KW to a trailing antenna 5 MILES long. Said they flew in a tight > circle so the antenna would droop to the vertical as much as possible. > Hmmm, not sure I'd want to do that. It's purpose was to send launch > codes to submerged submarines. > > Gary WA6DTX > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Armin Hachmer" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:23 PM > Subject: "ET phone home" ? > > > > chatter at the coffee shop this morning was all about a TV program last > > night on Unsolved Mysteries. > > > > ELF ..extremely low frequency used by the military to communicate over > > great distances ( i am quoting this, did not see it myself) is audible to > > some human ears. > > > > hm... it is supposed to sound like a > > big diesel truck laboring up a distant hill. > > > > Has anyone seen the program and can tell me more? > > > > Curious Armin VE3TEQ > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:56:04 -0600 From: "Andy Palm" To: Subject: [162465] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <000301c3bc43$bfbbea20$9d98ee42@andy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys, guys. Not intended as a slam of Canadian hams! I don't fancy myself a cultural imperialist or anything. Sorry if I gave offense. I should have left the national reference off. Interestingly, no one has yet taken offense at "QRO Phone People," also an unfair and inconsiderate categoriztion (for which I also appologize in advance--hey, I own a few microphones). This particular guy WAS rude and acted like he owned the frequency. I bend over backwards to be polite on the air, and did nothing to this guy. Sorry, but I had to vent a bit. Sorry to take up your bandwidth with it. Anyway, considering how things seem to be going on 40 meters in the vacinity of 7.040, should the QRP calling frequency be moved? I'm still interested in opinions in this matter. Not super-miffed--just not happy with being stompted on, Andy N1KSN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:58:25 -0600 From: "Jim Sheldon" To: "QRP-L Mailing List" Subject: [162466] SW30+ SW80+ Built - Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SW30+, SW80+ Both Built and in the SWL enclosures. Both in excellent condition. $80 each, shipping included. First come, first served. Please reply off list. Jim - W0EB w0eb@cox.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:20:43 -0500 (EST) From: Thom LaCosta To: M Taylor Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162467] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <20031206171855.S93142-100000@unix1.vhost.min.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, M Taylor wrote: > I will note that there is no legal subbands in Canada, the band plan is > voluntary, and normally is observed. From time to time any ham can make > a mistake or be unaware of all the rules, band plans, etc and the best > way to co-operate with these operators is a friendly "hi, this frequency > range is normally CW, and around 7.040 is normally used for QRP CW, > could you please QSY into the suggested SSB frequency range? Better chance > of a SSB contact there." Sounds like a gentlemanly approach....but if they aren't listening/prepared for that message in CW, I'd have to violate the terms of my US license to tell them. Thom baltimoremd@baltimoremd.com Thom LaCosta K3HRN Webmaster http://www.baltimoremd.com/ Baltimore's Home Page http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.zerobeat.net Home of The QRP Web Ring and DrakeList http://www.tlchost.net Web Hosting as low as $3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:14:53 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162468] Re: Solving the wall wart dilemma Message-ID: <008001c3bc46$83a706c0$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Radio Shack has them for '2-wire'. I have about 3 or 4 here. Cheap enough, but so are generic extension cords. I think you save $.50 over a regular 6 cord. Thing is, they are nice to have... Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Cooperstein" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:31 AM Subject: Solving the wall wart dilemma > I have seen an inexpensive product consisting of six (I think) very > short (under 1 ft.) extension cords that let you put a wall wart on > every outlet of a convenience strip. It was far less expensive than DIY. > > Only thing is, I can't remember what catalog I saw it in. Anyone know? > > Ken KC2JDY > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:19:07 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: Andy Palm Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162469] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <3FD255DB.11C02460@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy, Andy, Andy, For the 10 millionth time, NO ONE OWNS ANY FREQUENCY, Period. The ham bands i this country, and mostly ONLY in this country have sub-bands. The only criteria for these sub-bands is whether you are using SSB or not. You can use CW anywhere the ban is legal (note, except for the new 60 meter band). Other countries have their own rules. In many countries 40 meters is a much smaller band than we have. They develop their "sub-bands" by consensual agreement among THEMSELVES. Their rules have no effect on us as ours have no effect on them. The whole mess is co-ordinated by the ITU and individual national radio clubs like the ARRL. They are human and occasionally make mistakes. One such mistake was not specifying a "preferred frequency" for QRP internationally. Now what about your problem. First of all not every station you hear can hear you. For one case you may be using considerably less power than he is. The result is "one way hearing". Second he may be operating within the rules of HIS country. You really don't have a leg to stand on in this case. What should you do. Try QRL first. This is the universal symbol for thus frequency is in use. If he can't hear you, twit the VFO knob and find another frequency that is less crowded. Surprisingly, QRP works everywhere not just on 7040. In fact 7040 is called a calling frequency, a frequency where you can find others who are interested in the same things you are. After making contact you are supposed to move to another frequency to have the QSO. Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:33:40 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: jsielke@pobox.com Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162470] Re: "Pride Goeth Before a Fall..." Message-ID: <3FD25944.CF171406@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, I seriously doubt pride had much to do with your antenna failure. It would have to of heard you bragging about, And been mad at you to boot. Your experience with the garage roof may show some conflict between you and the antenna, one that has been festering for the last two years. But I think that this time may have the last straw where the antenna was concerned for other reasons. On the next 50+ degree day I would look carefully at both the attaching points and the wire. It may have failed due to the attachment points or the wire may have failed. I'd bet the attachments failed. 74 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:42:48 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162471] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <3FD25B68.8000707@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Guys, guys. Not intended as a slam of Canadian hams! I don't fancy myself > a cultural imperialist or anything. Sorry if I gave offense. I should have > left the national reference off. Sorry, Andy, it is too late. I have it on good authority that you are cut off from Moosehead Beer for life! (One of Canada's two greatest exports, the other being Hockey players). John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:54:55 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162472] ScQRPion Paddle #10 works! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I made a contact, the first with the new paddle and it works fine! It is a two hand paddle because the return spring I found in the hardware store is too tight. But I have it set for very close spacing between the contact points and it seems to hold the setting fine. It's an iambic paddle and it works just like my Bencher paddle in that regard. It is very pretty with all that brass. And the silver plated contact screws shine like they should too. Now to see how long it will play and stay pretty. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:58:08 -0800 From: "Jade's Technical Services" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162473] Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? Message-ID: <005701c3bc65$91539a80$31a206d8@f5b7l2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to agree that Andy is way off base using such comments; perhaps when emotional some should type the message and save in drafts, and reread later b4 sending. I operate quite a bit on the 80m novice area in the evenings around 3700-3740 and have a ball working slow speeders and ragchews with the vintage equipment op's and that area also has Canadien SSB as well. Never a problem to qsy up or down, and during low cw activity, they are a pleasure to listen too, interesting and always polite, hope no one allows the US 75m bunch to get on those freqs and ruin them. Jim kw3u ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Landry" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? > Andy, > Yes it's very unpleasant when someone starts squawking on top of you. But > it's also very informational to listen across the bands to learn from what > country most of the "rude jerks" come from. A good place to start listening > is on the 20m. band. > > Laurie, VE1AWJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Palm" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:21 PM > Subject: Changing the 40m QRP frequency? > > > > An earlier message noted RTTY on 7.040. I'm even more concerned about > those > > darn Canadian SSB ops who are moving in just above 7.040. I was having a > > most pleasant chat in the evening on 7.043 with a ham on Long Island when > an > > SSB op jumped in and started squawking on top of us. They are starting to > > act like they own the joint. > > > > So do we fight to keep 7.040 (yeah, I know--it isn't really ours by > > birthright) or do we let rude jerks drive us off to another frequency? > Any > > opinions out there? I may start spending more time in the Extra subband, > > which is where those QRO Phone People probably want to drive us to anyway. > > > > Somewhat miffed, and sorry in advance for any offense given, > > Andy N1KSN > > Menasha, WI > > > > > ------------------------------ End of QRP-L Digest 3126 ************************ --------------------------------