20040119.qrp v03_n170.qrl.20040119 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:03:07 EST From: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: QRP-L digest 3170 QRP-L Digest 3170 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) [165696] RE: If you had the money for a new rig... by "Bill Rowlett" 2) [165697] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... by Rick McKee 3) [165698] Re: If I had the money... Argonaut V ??? by "Brian Riley (maillist)" 4) [165699] Re: If I had the money... by "George, W5YR" 5) [165700] Re: 30 meter beacon - update by Al Scanandoah 6) [165701] Re: If I had the money... by "Bruce Kizerian" 7) [165702] FOX: AC7A Jan 13th Final Log by "Thomas Kuehl" 8) [165703] ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL???? by "Jerry Ford" 9) [165704] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... by "Mike Yetsko" 10) [165705] MFGRs Data URLs by Ed Tanton 11) [165706] Re: If I had the money... by Ed Tanton 12) [165707] Re: mtty/fsk question by 13) [165708] Re: To go with your ScQRPion paddles... by Dale Botkin 14) [165709] Re: mtty/fsk question by 15) [165710] Re: If I had the money... by "Michael Melland, W9WIS" 16) [165711] Elmer 160: Lesson 7 by "John J. McDonough" 17) [165712] Add 17m to a 18 AVT by Mark Hogan 18) [165713] If I had the money! by "James Kelley" 19) [165714] Re: Mike Boatwright on DIY Channel! by "Michael C. Boatright" 20) [165715] Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... by "rattray" 21) [165716] Mobile, AL QRP Ops by "Jay Henson" 22) [165717] FS: Emtech ZM-2 HF tuner by "Dave Redfearn" 23) [165718] Re: Mobile, AL QRP Ops by "Brian Murrey" 24) [165719] Polarity protection by Peter Burbank 25) [165720] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... by "Lew Paceley" 26) [165721] FOX: This Week's State of the Hunt Address by Tim Groat 27) [165722] 30 Meter Beacon by Peter Burbank 28) [165723] 30 meter QRPp beacon run results by Tom Sevart 29) [165724] Re: 30 Meter Beacon by Tom Sevart 30) [165725] K1 #1776: No smoke! by Paul Mills 31) [165726] Re: 30 meter QRPp beacon run results by Tom Sevart 32) [165727] Re: If I had the money... Argonaut V ??? by "Joseph Trombino Jr" 33) [165728] OT: QRP-L Archives or PC address books by "w8diz_qrpl" 34) [165729] Re: Polarity protection by "Mike Yetsko" 35) [165730] FS: Misc Radios and other Items by Christopher Swan 36) [165731] Re: QRP-L Archives or PC address books by "Rod N0RC" 37) [165732] PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? by "Rod N0RC" 38) [165733] Re: QRP-L Archives or PC address books by Rob Matherly 39) [165734] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by Bruce Muscolino 40) [165735] Re: QRP-L Archives or PC address books by "Thom R. Lacosta" 41) [165736] RE: PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? by "Dennis Ponsness" 42) [165737] Re: Some Battery charging circuits by "Sam Binkley" 43) [165738] Re: fried my hw-8... need help from hw-8 pro.. by "James Reid" 44) [165739] Weeder PIC based counter by tk 45) [165740] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by Garie Halstead K8KFJ 46) [165741] More lists than you really wanted by "James Reid" 47) [165742] Re: Weeder PIC based counter by "Terry Permenter" 48) [165743] Re: PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? by "Mike Yetsko" 49) [165744] HW-9 For Sale by Curt Milton 50) [165745] HC908 question by "The Cieslak's" 51) [165746] Re: PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? by Al Scanandoah 52) [165747] ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by 53) [165748] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Bill Smith" 54) [165749] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 55) [165750] RE: ARRL rig reviews QSK test... by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 56) [165751] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... by brewerj@squared.com 57) [165752] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Thom R. Lacosta" 58) [165753] RE: ARRL rig reviews QSK test... by 59) [165754] Re: End fed 80 meter wires by Curt Milton 60) [165755] Elecraft KXAT1 ATU upgrade: manual receive signal peaking by Wayne Burdick 61) [165756] RE: Toroids and magnets by "Sverre Holm" 62) [165757] Re: [ke4ma] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Mark Andrews \(KE4MA\)" 63) [165758] Re: If I had the money... by Curt Milton 64) [165759] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Tony Martin W4FOA" 65) [165760] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... by "K2PQ" 66) [165761] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by Bob Nielsen 67) [165762] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by Howard Oakley 68) [165763] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by John Sielke 69) [165764] Re: Measuring Ground Resistance by "Patrick Schwarz - KB8RTZ" 70) [165765] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 71) [165766] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... by "Brad Hedges" 72) [165767] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by 73) [165768] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Mike Yetsko" 74) [165769] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 75) [165770] Repeat and Question sign by Jack e wigal 76) [165771] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 77) [165772] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting by "M.M." 78) [165773] Re: Repeat and Question sign by "Sam Binkley" 79) [165774] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Patrick Schwarz - KB8RTZ" 80) [165775] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Bill Rowlett" 81) [165776] RE: Repeat and Question sign by "k6xr" 82) [165777] FOX Tuesday fox hunt announcement. by Richard Clem 83) [165778] Re: Repeat and Question sign by Jack e wigal 84) [165779] ARRL Proposal by Karl Larsen 85) [165780] Shack Cleaning For Sale by Mercxx@aol.com 86) [165781] We're still shipping paddles by Jerry Haigwood 87) [165782] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Thom R. Lacosta" 88) [165783] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Bill Smith" 89) [165784] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Thom R. Lacosta" 90) [165785] Re: [ke4ma] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Bud Haynes" 91) [165786] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting by "Thom R. Lacosta" 92) [165787] Fw: ARRL Directors Meeting by "n3drk" 93) [165788] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 94) [165789] heil hc-5 by "Anthony Felino" 95) [165790] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:30:47 +0000 From: "Bill Rowlett" To: bhedges@nc.rr.com, qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165696] RE: If you had the money for a new rig... Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Stay with the Ten Tec, 30 day money back except for shiping, one of the best service departments in the industry not to mention the qsk of TT rigs. Sex appeal for the Field, no, just slick advertising. But, what a nice problem to have. 73, Bill kc4atu >From: "Brad Hedges" >Reply-To: bhedges@nc.rr.com >To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" >Subject: If you had the money for a new rig... >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:20:49 -0500 > >Let's pretend you were getting a large-ish tax refund and were going to buy >a new radio. The XYL won't quite go for an Orion, but under $2,000 was >doable... > >Your intended use was 90% CW and 10%SSB/Digital modes >Casual contesting and as much DXing as reasonably available, including >trying for all those DXpeditions. >You had pretty much narrowed it down to a Yaesu FT-1000MP Mk V Field at >$1720, or a TenTec Jupiter (w/integral LDG tuner) at $1600. > >I know the CW is better from the Jupiter, but there is "a mod" for improved >keying from the Field, and the Yaesu has a much larger "sex appeal" factor. >NOT the best reason to buy a rig, but it's there, none the less. > >I apologize for the bandwidth - I know it's not QRP, but *I* QRP, >therefor.... > >Before you say "K2", I was leaning strongly that direction, especially >given >the recent ARRL test release, but just don't feel like building another rig >right now, and I like the notch/PBT/misc other features available in the >larger rigs, along with the warranty. > >Thanks in advance, > >Brad >K0BHC > _________________________________________________________________ Check out the new MSN 9 Dial-up fast & reliable Internet access with prime features! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=dialup/home&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:38:38 -0500 From: Rick McKee To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165697] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... Message-ID: <20040118.183850.9478.2.kc8aon@juno.com> It's really amazing how big the word "IF" is ! And I guess I'm old fashioned but I would really have to to some comparing when it would come down to what new rig I would buy ! I have several rigs here, and none of them are what I would classify as the perfect rig, but then I don'd have any "upper end" rigs either ! The things I like in a rig would probably be very different than most hams today. I'm not much of a contester except for some of the fun contests like WAS if you want to call that a contest, so I like a rig that is simple but effective ! I do operate CW more than any other mode, so good filtering and full breakin would be very near the top of the list of features to look for. Receiver sensitivity is very important, if you can't hear them, you can't work them ! Low internally generated noise is something I think a lot of manufacturers need to work on ! I have a couple of older rigs here that will hear signals that newer rigs won't ! I have and old Yaesu FT-7, and a Swan 100MX which are both solid state rigs from the 70's. The FT-7 is fairly stable, and the Swan drifts a bit, but they both have wonderfully sensitive receivers when compared to my Yaesu FT-840 and my Icom 706MKII ! I know of one instance when an FT-7 was hearing a mobile station fairly well, when a nearby station with an "upper end" rig couldn't even tell he was there ! I know this isn't scientific. but the 2 receiving stations were about 5 miles apart with wire antennas that were basically oriented in the same directions ! Another important thing to me would be simplicity in operation ! Will I be able to operate the thing out in the field without dragging the manual along with me ? I hate menus and multiple function buttons ! I think noise blankers and noise limiters that really work would be a good addition too ! I don't really like DSP and it's mushy watery sound, but would like to see noise reduction that doesn't sacrifice audio quality ! I guess I'm asking too much on that one ! Portability is a good asset too, I like to take my rigs along with me sometimes when I travel, and a 50 pound rig just makes me want to leave it at home ! Last but not least, and since I don't need anything fancy, it must be affordable ! So, I guess my perfect rig must be sensitive, selective, quiet, simple to operate, functional, good audio quality, reasonably sized, and within the means of my budget. WELL, I CAN DREAM CAN'T I ? 72/73 de: Rick McKee, KC8AON <> Willow Wood, Ohio <> Grid: EM88rl SW-20+, SW-30+, SW-40+, Norcal BLT, Yaesu FT-7, Homebrew 6V6 tube TX QRP-L #2112, FPqrp #33, AR QRP, AmQRP, Ohio Valley Fists, MQFD #1 Monthly QRP Field Day info at : http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/mqfd I'll give up CW & QRP when I'm dead ! MAYBE ! didididadidah ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:43:32 -0500 From: "Brian Riley (maillist)" To: Thomas Kuehl , Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165698] Re: If I had the money... Argonaut V ??? Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have been looking at rigs etc and following this discussion and was wondering what the general opinion is of the Argonaut V as a CW rig? cheers ... 73 de brian, n1bq ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:52:42 -0600 From: "George, W5YR" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165699] Re: If I had the money... Message-ID: <018b01c3de1e$2db11130$0401a8c0@PS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, my IC-756PRO2 is the finest radio I have ever operated in over 57 years of hamming. Believe me, what it can do with weak and marginal signals is almost unbelievable when you first hear it. I also have a K2. I do my Fox Hunting with the PRO2 . . . 95% of my operating is QRP CW. One man's "bells and whistles" are another man's "toolset." I don't know of a single control, feature or function on the PRO2 that I do not use either daily or at least regularly. Isn't this a great hobby where we can have the same amount of fun with either a big rig or a small one? 73, George W5YR w5yr@att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Weber" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: If I had the money... > I've never owned, nor even operated a "high end" rig. Is it really worth > spending the big bucks for a high end rig, or do you just end up with a > whole lot of bells and whisles and more knobs and buttons than you can > possibly remeber what they all do? And are these rigs really any good on > CW, a mode which often seems to be added as an after thought? > > > 72, > Steve, KD1JV > "Melt Solder" > White Mountains of New Hampshire > http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:02:51 -0500 From: Al Scanandoah To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165700] Re: 30 meter beacon - update Message-ID: <400B1EAB.8080405@rochester.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now 449 here when not buried beneath the data traffic. Al, K2ZN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:10:08 -0700 From: "Bruce Kizerian" To: "Thomas Kuehl" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165701] Re: If I had the money... Message-ID: <004501c3de20$99e8dac0$be0746a6@98seoem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now If I was REALLY wealthy I'd just give away parts to anyone who wanted to give radio a try...but I haven't figured out how that "independently wealthy" lifestyle works yet... Bruce kk7zz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:17:41 -0700 From: "Thomas Kuehl" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165702] FOX: AC7A Jan 13th Final Log Message-ID: <001f01c3de21$a79f7c40$120110ac@texas6oef4glwm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy, Here is my final FOX log for the January 13th (Jan 14th UTC) hunt. We had a couple of participants that didn't check out on QRZ, or the FOX hunt archives. They have been removed from the log. My thanks to all for your participation in the hunt, and good sportsmanship. Regards, Thomas - AC7A (Tucson) Hunt 23 - AC7A UTC CALL RST SPC NAME PWR(W) 0200 N9NE 559 WI TODD 5 0201 KK5LD 559 TX DON 5 0202 N4ROA 559 VA DAN 5 0202 K3PH 559 PA BOB 5 0203 KB9YIG 559 IN TONY 2 0204 N1FN 559 CO ET 5 0205 N0DT 559 MO DAN 5 0206 KL7V 559 OK SAM 5 0207 KG6CYN 559 CA TREV 5 0208 NK6A 559 CA DON 5 0209 K6VNX 599 CA ARLEN 5 0209 W5TB 559 TX DOC 5 0210 N3BJ 559 VA ALAN 5 0211 K5UV 559 OK MIKE 5 0211 AC5JH 559 OK TOM 5 0212 N9AU 599 WI RON 5 0213 VA6RF 579 AB EARL 5 0214 W5YR 559 TX GEORGE 5 0215 WB4X 559 NC BRENT 5 0216 K5JHP 559 TX BILL 5 0217 K9ARZ 559 IL LARRY 10 0219 VE6JAZ 559 AB ROB 5 0219 K0LOA 559 TX DWAIN 5 0221 K6XR 599 CA REGGIE 5 0222 AA5O 559 LA VERN 5 0222 K5DW 559 TX DON 5 0223 WA8BXN 559 OH MIKE 5 0224 K5EOA 559 LA WAYNE 5 0225 W0PWE 579 IA JERRY 5 0226 K7JUB 599 AZ AL 5 0227 AG0T 559 ND TODD 4 0229 K6IA 559 CA WARD 5 0230 K0MAX 559 MN MAX 5 0231 KQ5U 559 TX TERRY 5 0232 K3ESE 559 MD LLOYD 5 0233 K8KFJ 559 WV GARY 5 0234 KG0PP 559 CO JIM 5 0235 N4DD 559 TN DENNIS 5 0236 WA5BDU 559 AR NICK 5 0237 KT5V 559 TX DAVID 5 0237 WB8YYY 559 MD CURT 5 0240 KD5UDB 549 LA CHRIS 5 0241 KB2FEL 559 WV BOB 5 0242 W0UFO 559 MN MERT 5 0244 W5USJ 559 TX CHUCK 5 0245 NV4V 559 KY PETE 5 0246 W0ANM 339 MN CHRIS 5 0247 W4NJK 559 CA CHARLIE 5 0248 AJ4AY 559 AL JAY 5 0250 W9XT 559 WI GARY 5 0251 N0JRN 559 MO JERRY 5 0252 K0UU 559 MN JEFF 5 0253 W0RSP 559 SD ADE 5 0255 K9TJL 559 IL TJ 5 0256 WA9TZE 579 WI JIM 5 0258 K2PQ 559 NJ FRANK 5 0259 K5ZTY 559 TX BILL 5 0300 KC1FB 559 CT JIM 5 0301 AF4LQ 559 KY MIKE 5 0302 W7GB 559 WA DON 5 0303 W2LJ 559 NJ LARRY 5 0305 N5YFC 559 LA LARRY 5 0308 W9XU 559 WI LON 5 0309 NK9G 559 WI RICK 5 0310 N9AW 559 WI JERRY 5 0311 N1TP 559 FL TOM 5 0313 K9IS 559 WI STEVE 5 0314 K7HBN 559 WA GEORGE 5 0316 W7AQK 599 AZ DAVE 5 0318 AB9CA 559 AL DAVE 5 0322 AG4PJ 559 AL DAVE 5 0327 AK5X 439 TX BILL 5 0328 KG4LDY 559 VA JIM 5 0332 WE9K 339 IL GLENN 5 0333 WA8HSB 579 AL JOHN 10 0337 KJ0C 559 MO JIM 5 0341 W8YMO 569 OH HARRY 3 0343 N0AR 559 MN SCOTT 5 0345 VE3ELA 339 ON KEN 5 0349 VE7HHH 559 BC BLAIR 10 0351 W8RU 559 MI RON 5 0353 KOPC 559 MN PAT 5 0357 K5SR 559 TX DALE 5 0358 WA8ZBT 339 TX DENNIS 5 0400 VE4WI XXX MB FOX 5 0400 AC7A XXX AZ FOX 5 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:24:12 -0600 From: "Jerry Ford" To: "FPigs" , "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Cc: "FSQRP" <4sqrp@mailman.qth.net>, "qrp-l" Subject: [165703] ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL???? Message-ID: <000e01c3de22$91486140$4a78da0c@mchsi.com> NAW !!!!!!!!! Come chase a different kind of pig skin. The RUN FOR THE BACON sprint will fire up in a little bit. 0100z to 0300z TONIGHT !!!!!! Come out and play with all us piggies and have some fun. I'll be running on a newly finished rig and giving it a good smoke test so I'll be looking for some honest reports in this little run. Hope to see you all there ( piggies and Non Piggies alike ) See the rules and suggested freq's at www.fpqrp.com/fpqrprun.htnl and don't forget to give that AUTOLOG a workout cuz it's SSOOOOO easy. Don't forget our piggie partners that are running up in the band on 7.113 - 7.116 C U there in few minutes. 72 es oo Jerry N0JRN FP # 546, 4SQRP, ARS # 923, ARCI # 11049, ARRL, Springfield, Mo. MP + #8 http://home.mchsi.com/~n0jrn ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:25:30 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165704] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... Message-ID: <009901c3de23$5bb1b3a0$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I already have the K2. But I still have an itch that needs scratched, and the only scratcher that could really do the job would be the 817. On the other hand, That new 'suitcase' thing, I think the 897, is kind of neat. If I had the money, I'd buy that first. But then still probably want and 817 just for that one itch. (I want a 'hiker' radio to take on top of a ski mountain and be able to run a few contacts with between runs.) Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:49:27 -0500 From: Ed Tanton To: QRP-L , noga Subject: [165705] MFGRs Data URLs Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040118192914.01f60dc0@pop.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I was roaming around again, and noticed a nice one-place-source for a number of manufacturers at: . This is part of the EDN website. There's at least 9. Even if you already have them, the website's worth investigating. The mentioned "ON" site (new owner of Motorola Semi) doesn't work... it is really ONSEMI: and also... they could have mentioned: Crystalonics: ; Cypress Semi: ; Intersil: ; National Semi: ; Phillips Semi: ; and Vishay: . 72/73 Ed Tanton N4XY Ed Tanton N4XY 189 Pioneer Trail Marietta, GA 30068-3466 website: http://www.n4xy.com All emails & checked by Norton AntiVirus with AutoProtect LM: ARRL QCWA AMSAT & INDEXA; SEDXC NCDXA GACW QRP-ARCI OK-QRP QRP-L #758 K2 (FT) #00057 -------------------------------------------------- "He that gives up a little liberty to gain temporary security will lose both and deserve neither". --Benjamin Franklin "Suppose you were an idiot ... and suppose you were a member of Congress... but I repeat myself." --Mark Twain -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:55:22 -0500 From: Ed Tanton To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165706] Re: If I had the money... Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040118195221.0206dec0@pop.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There is no question in my mind what I would immediately buy (but it's not a "rig"): a Ten-Tec RX-340 HF Receiver. I'd immediately call 'em to see if I could drive up and pick it up-preferably as quickly as the trip from Atlanta to Sevierville, TN could be accomplished in my M3 and Valentine radar/laser detector. Ed website: http://www.n4xy.com All emails & checked by Norton AntiVirus with AutoProtect -------------------------------------------------- "He that gives up a little liberty to gain temporary security will lose both and deserve neither". --Benjamin Franklin "Suppose you were an idiot ... and suppose you were a member of Congress... but I repeat myself." --Mark Twain -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:05:27 -0500 From: To: Subject: [165707] Re: mtty/fsk question Message-ID: <000301c3de28$555e3000$5b26ad80@f1n5n8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken and the gang, I'm not at all familiar with the PTT or CW keying circuits or the FSK input circuit of the FT-301D. For Rock-Mite-RTTY and for RTTY using the DSW-20...with the MMTTY V1.65 app...I use two simplified versions of the interface circuit shown in the MMTTY help file. One circuit is the level-shifter for xcvr T/R control output and the other is the level-shifter for the FSK output. For the 9-pin DE9 serial port connector on my ThinkPad, I'm using : Pin 1 for common. Pin 3 for TXD...this is the FSK(mark/space )output. Pin 7 for RTS...this is the xcvr T/R control output. Does the above sound anything like your FT-301D interface? 73. Bill, N4QA http://www.n4qa.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:16:44 -0600 (CST) From: Dale Botkin To: QRP list Subject: [165708] Re: To go with your ScQRPion paddles... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Paul J Mackanos, Jr. wrote: > Well, I sort of found the problem, seems my Zone Alarm blocks the page as a > pop-up. (I do not like pop-ups).I went into the url as > www.hamgadgets.com/stores and got the info I needed and ordered the keyer. > Still haven't seen the main page contents, anyone know what to do to see it > ? Am I missing anything ?? > 72 de Paul K2DB I think you probably have seen it. The main URL just redirects to www.hamgadgets.com/store, which is the main page. So I'd say you're not missing anything. Odd that a popup blocker messes with it, though. I use Mozilla, mostly, with popups blocked and it never complains. But if it meant no more stupid ads, I'd put up with a lot. It is my humble opinion that perpetrators of popup ads and SPAM should all be lined up for some career adjustment exercises, preferably conducted with cattle prods and cactus needles. 72, Dale - n0xas -- It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off. NEW PicoKeyer version with pot AND paddle control is here! Check http://www.hamgadgets.com for news. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:18:50 -0500 From: To: Subject: [165709] Re: mtty/fsk question Message-ID: <000901c3de2a$33798320$5b26ad80@f1n5n8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops! Let me give that another try :0) For the DE9 serial port connector, that's: Pin 3 for TXD...mark/space FSK. Pin 5 for circuit common. Pin 7 for RTS...xcvr T/R control. 73. Bill, N4QA http://www.n4qa.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:19:20 -0800 From: "Michael Melland, W9WIS" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165710] Re: If I had the money... Message-ID: <001501c3de3b$07868900$0300a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, I'd ask you to pick one up for me too and take 30 minutes extra to run it up to Oshkosh for me on your way home in that M3 . Mike, W9WIS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:25:27 -0500 From: "John J. McDonough" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165711] Elmer 160: Lesson 7 Message-ID: <054501c3de2b$1f401800$090044c0@BrianBoru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lesson 7 is now on the AmQRP site: http://www.amqrp.org/elmer160/ We only have a couple more lessons before we are ready for those PIC-EL's, and George is getting them organized to go, so it looks like the timing is going to work out perfectly. 72/73 de WB8RCR http://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:40:31 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Hogan To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165712] Add 17m to a 18 AVT Message-ID: <20040119024031.95824.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone added 17m to their 18 avt? I was thinking about adding plastic standoffs, and running a 1/4 wave wire up alongside the verticle. Anyone tried something like this? I know at the least I will need to do some retuning... Too cheep to buy a new verticle, and this one still works great. Mark Hogan / N5OBC __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:43:10 -0500 From: "James Kelley" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [165713] If I had the money! Message-ID: <410-22004111924310951@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Well I already have a 756PRO2 . So "If I had the money," I would build a new clubhouse for the local Amateur Radio Club. They could sure use it. Meetings now are full to overflowing and we do not want to discourage and or turn away anyone just because our club house is too small. So, yes, "If I had the money" I would build The Local Amateur Radio Club a new club house." k4ybb@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:39:23 -0500 From: "Michael C. Boatright" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Cc: LarryIngalls@alumni.usc.edu, aa2bn@comcast.net, kc5gxl@sbcglobal.net Subject: [165714] Re: Mike Boatwright on DIY Channel! Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20040118213327.0319a858@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks guys. They gave me a copy of it, but I've never seen it on the air. The experience was bittersweet. When the producer asked if he could do the piece, he wanted to come over to my shack, a small 5'x10' former closet/utility room. I told him that where he really wanted to shoot it was at W3IRZ's shack, which was like doing it in a museum. Worked out nicely, because he shot Mike at the same time. Mike's tape came about the same time mine did, but he was in the hospital in the final throws of his cancer, and never got to see the results of our work. However, Caroline, his widow, now has a permanent record (albeit only about 3 minutes long) of Mike doing what he absolutely loved doing the most. 72 de Mike, KO4WX Michael C. Boatright ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:29:52 -0600 From: "rattray" To: "QRP-C" , "QRP-L" , "Roger Wendell" Subject: [165715] Fox - Fox Hunt Teams Results... Message-ID: <000001c3de3c$838a9f90$7900a8c0@Bonnie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hunt # 23 - AC7A - QRP Cheeseheads - 85 Cajun Thunder - 72 Jerry - N9AW * Wayne - K5EOA * Rick - NK9G * Clean Wayne - N5YFC * Gary - W9XT * Sweep Vern - AA5O * Lon - W9XU * Jim - N5IB Jim - WA9TZE * Chris -KD5UDB * The Underdogs - 76 Team Air Pork - 50 Dan - N4ROA * Wayne - K9DI Dennis - N4DD * Mike - KD5KXF Bob - KB2FEL * Dave - AG4PJ * Dave - W0CH Randy - W9HL Ron - KI0II Jerry - N0JRN * Raiders of the Lost RF - 37 The NE-TX Tornados - 90 Rob - VE6JAZ * Bill - K5JHP * Craig - VE4WI * Don - K5DW * Fred - VE3FAL Doc - W5TB * Earl - VA6RF * Lew - N5ZE Bruce - VE5RC George - W5YR * ...please e-mail me direct with corrections, changes...tnx.... ...72/73 - Bruce (VE5RC+VE5QRP) QRP-C#1 QRP-L#886 ARCI#9683 Zombie#272 A-1 Operator Club - 10/10# 944 - QRP Borg#1 - Whiner#10 - - VE5QRP SOC#11 - VE5RC SOC#12 - oo#148 - K2#2032 - COG#15 - "QRP! How sweet it is!" "I am da man wit "DAH" paddle!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:46:00 -0600 From: "Jay Henson" To: "Elecraft List" , "qrp-l" Subject: [165716] Mobile, AL QRP Ops Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, Despite the damp weather, eight QRP ops from around the Mobile area gathered at K4ZM's place yesterday and had a very nice time. Present were Bill K4VIB, Dave AB9CA, Johnny KD4ORO, Ken N4SO, Larry W4DEC, John WA8HSB, Jim K4ZM and yours truly. Jim had quite a display of QRP rigs and goodies on his pool table. Everyone brought a little something for show and tell. Some of the rigs were a K2, a KX1, a Red Hot 20, Sierra Wilderness, MFJ 9040, MFJ Cub and a MultiPig Plus. Homebrew goodies included a DDS based VFO, Azscqrpions key, pc board paddles & keyer, 10 mHz freq standard, and a noise generator. There was also an Elecraft KPA100 mounted in and EC2 enclosure (droooool). We talked, looked, touched and ate for a couple of hours. It doesn't get any better than that. Jim showed us the video from the RACCOONS trip to Middle Bay lighthouse in 1993 for field day. RACCOONS is the acronym for Radio Amateurs CW Contest Operators Operating in Natural Surroundings. Thanks to Jim for providing a place for a very fun afternoon and thanks to the local QRP group for showing the interest. We are making plans to get together again in March. If you find yourself down in our neck of the woods, make plans to join us. My best to all. Jay AJ4AY Mobile, AL QRP-L 1372, FP -115 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.562 / Virus Database: 354 - Release Date: 1/16/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:52:39 -0600 From: "Dave Redfearn" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion \(E-mail\)" Subject: [165717] FS: Emtech ZM-2 HF tuner Message-ID: <000501c3de3f$af9aa780$016fa8c0@Pavillion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale: Emtech ZM-2 ATU kit - built For balanced and unbalanced antennas 80 - 10 Meters Tuner is in good condition, has SO-239 connectors Description: http://www.emtech.steadynet.com/zm2.shtmlp Asking $75.00 obo shipping to lower 48, USA 73 - Dave =================================================== Dave Redfearn, ARS N4ELM, McKinney, TX Email: n4elm@NOJUNKcomcast.net (to reply, remove NOJUNK) QRL? de N4ELM/qrp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:06:11 -0500 From: "Brian Murrey" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165718] Re: Mobile, AL QRP Ops Message-ID: <001701c3de41$936bc560$02fea8c0@bjmw2k> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You guys were in force tonight for the Run for the Bacon contest. I worked you, and KD4ORO, and WA8HSB...going for my WAMQ award (Worked All Mobile QRPers)...and by Mobile I mean MO-BEEEL not mobile like in a automobile. Thanks for being part of it!! So....youse guys coming to FDIM?? How's about FD?? 72 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Henson" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Mobile, AL QRP Ops > All, > > Despite the damp weather, eight QRP ops from around the Mobile area gathered > at K4ZM's place yesterday and had a very nice time. > > Present were Bill K4VIB, Dave AB9CA, Johnny KD4ORO, Ken N4SO, Larry W4DEC, > John WA8HSB, Jim K4ZM and yours truly. > > Jim had quite a display of QRP rigs and goodies on his pool table. Everyone > brought a little something for show and tell. Some of the rigs were a K2, a > KX1, a Red Hot 20, Sierra Wilderness, MFJ 9040, MFJ Cub and a MultiPig Plus. > Homebrew goodies included a DDS based VFO, Azscqrpions key, pc board paddles > & keyer, 10 mHz freq standard, and a noise generator. There was also an > Elecraft KPA100 mounted in and EC2 enclosure (droooool). We talked, looked, > touched and ate for a couple of hours. It doesn't get any better than that. > > Jim showed us the video from the RACCOONS trip to Middle Bay lighthouse in > 1993 for field day. RACCOONS is the acronym for Radio Amateurs CW Contest > Operators Operating in Natural Surroundings. > > Thanks to Jim for providing a place for a very fun afternoon and thanks to > the local QRP group for showing the interest. We are making plans to get > together again in March. If you find yourself down in our neck of the > woods, make plans to join us. > > My best to all. > Jay > AJ4AY > Mobile, AL > QRP-L 1372, FP -115 > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.562 / Virus Database: 354 - Release Date: 1/16/2004 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:48:26 -0500 From: Peter Burbank To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165719] Polarity protection Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040118231736.00a47840@mail.qx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I dummied up a polarity protection circuit for higher current and low voltage drop. It was mentioned to me by an old friend about 30 years ago and I always wanted to try it. It starts with a TO-3 PNP germanium transistor. Jump the base to collector with a few K ohms. + supply in goes to the emitter and load to the collector. At 500 mA the drop was 133mV. Those with old junk boxes like me can probably come up with an old germanium power transistor. Of course wrong polarity current was 0. I don't have a need for these as I use the "National Enquirer Method" prior to connecting. You know, check. double check and triple check. The funniest mistake I ever saw was a guy building an extender card for a big EMG machine. With bated breath we watched as he threw the switch and the smoke rolled out and it spit chart paper out at about 300 feet/minute. :-) :-) 73 to all Pete NV4V ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:53:04 -0600 From: "Lew Paceley" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Cc: Subject: [165720] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... Message-ID: <003a01c3de48$22ffb1e0$6501a8c0@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Brad, I have a FT1000MP which I really, really like. I've not played with a Jupiter yet but I doubt the receiver performance is even close, never mind the other feature differences between the rigs. Check out the ARRL reviews for a detailed, objective comparison if you haven't already. Note however, that you must add additional crystal filters to truly tap the performance of the FT1000MP and Field. The INRAD crystal filters are the favored choice for most, and, depending on which IF stage you are purchasing for, will run between $115 and $155 each. The 250 Hz pair, which I would recommend for a CW op, will set you back $270. If you want a CW filter for the subreceiver that will add another $155 or so, again assuming the INRAD crystal filters are chosen. You can do what I did and save significant money by purchasing a used FT1000MP and adding in the INRAD filters. If you really have your heart set on purchasing a new Field, I would also suggest taking a look at the Icom 756ProII. The "loaded" Field will probably be very close in price to the ProII. Or, if you don't need dual receive, digital voice recorder, color spectrum display, etc., the Icom 746Pro might be appropriate. Choosing a new rig...a good problem to have :) Good luck es 72/73, *Lew* N5ZE ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:55:11 -0700 From: Tim Groat To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165721] FOX: This Week's State of the Hunt Address Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.2.20040118213615.00a11ec0@mail.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed We've scheduled the hunt for exactly the same time as the annual State-of-the-Union address: this coming Tuesday at 7pm MST. Please put a tape in the VCR, and come join the chase! While the president has every TV channel at his disposal, I'll limit myself to a small slice of the spectrum just below 7040 kHz. I'll be calling CQ FOX KR0U, and listening split a kHz or so up until the pack thins out. I'll listen on frequency if (when) things slow down. I will send (call) RST CO TIM 5W (call). Good luck to all hounds! 72, --Tim (KR0U) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:55:30 -0500 From: Peter Burbank To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165722] 30 Meter Beacon Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040118235010.00a36040@mail.qx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I heard it briefly here in Ky about 1800 EST . Is 100 mW correct copy? Since this area of 30 M is the packet allocation it might be better to find a mid band location. Pete NV4V ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:12:28 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Sevart To: HF Beacon list , Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165723] 30 meter QRPp beacon run results Message-ID: <20040119051228.54015.qmail@web9609.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here are the results of the 100 mW beacon operation today: 30 Meter Beacon Run Results Date: 18 Jan 2004 Time Heard (Z) Location heard Signal Level 1400 Denver, CO 549 1515 Oak Lawn, IL 429 w/ QSB 1556 Champaign, IL S7 1715 Point, TX 549 w/ QSB 1800 Mobile, AL Weak 1807 Westminster, MD Weak 1813 Houston, TX 539 1830 Downer's Grove, IL 459 1855 Corpus Christi, TX Weak 2302 Rochester, NY 449 2330 Muncie, IN 339 My thanks to everyone who reported hearing the beacon. QSL's will be sent out soon. ===== Tom Sevart N2UHC http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:16:09 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Sevart To: peterlee@qx.net, Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165724] Re: 30 Meter Beacon Message-ID: <20040119051609.93886.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Peter Burbank wrote: > I heard it briefly here in Ky about 1800 EST . > Is 100 mW correct copy? Since this area of 30 M is > the packet allocation it > might be better to find a mid band location. 100 mW is correct. I would like to lower the frequency to get away from the digital stuff, but I think I'm going to need to rework the circuitry. But for now I'm going to leave it as it is. ===== Tom Sevart N2UHC http://www.geocities.com/n2uhc __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 05:18:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Mills To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165725] K1 #1776: No smoke! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I completed 'Alignment and Test, Part I', and none of the smoke escaped from any of the components! Heck, I figured by now I woulda had SOME kind of problem. Nope, things went smooth as silk; LEDs flashed, got e42, relays clicked, and dits 'n' dahs came outta the phones. Maybe I'll be able to give a listen for Tuesday night's foxes... Paul KB1GEJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:22:57 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Sevart To: hfbeacons@explore.plus.com, Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165726] Re: 30 meter QRPp beacon run results Message-ID: <20040119052257.31602.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry, forgot to add Wayne's logs to the list: 1541Z 1933Z 1954Z 2141Z 2300Z Busby, MT Will send your QSL. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:35:58 -0500 From: "Joseph Trombino Jr" To: Cc: "QRP-L" Subject: [165727] Re: If I had the money... Argonaut V ??? Message-ID: <005301c3de4e$1e9c9720$220110ac@gateway.2wire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Riley (maillist)" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:43 PM Subject: Re: If I had the money... Argonaut V ??? > I have been looking at rigs etc and following this discussion and was > wondering what the general opinion is of the Argonaut V as a CW rig? > > cheers ... 73 de brian, n1bq Howdy Brian: I have had my ARGO V for several months now and simply love it on CW. Just about the best QSK around and in CW mode it generates a nice, pleasant to listen to, sinewave sidetone. The IF DSP filtering is really something to experience ..... variable right down to 200hz and no ringing. I consider the ARGO V to be an excellent rig for the price. 73, Joe W2KJ North Carolina I QRP, therefore, I am ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:38:07 -0500 From: "w8diz_qrpl" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165728] OT: QRP-L Archives or PC address books Message-ID: <005501c3de80$b5ad4ec0$6601a8c0@cinci.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gang, Less than a month ago, I decided to change my email address because I was receiving way too much spam. Since I own a couple of domain names, I decided to create unique email addresses to track abuse. Well, the first email address that is getting spammed hard is w8diz_qrpl@partsandkits.com Guess I'll change it to w8diz_qrpl_V2 Either robots are scanning those computers that archive our emails or individual PCs are being abused by fowarding their address books. This can sure get me in a bad mood :( Just venting here... 72 & "oo's" - Dieter (DIZ) Gentzow - W8DIZ - Loveland, Ohio Clermont County - EM79uf - near Cincinnati; 39:13:05N 84:18:18W RIG:multiPIG+ ANT:67 FT Vertical Dipole http://kitsandparts.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:14:12 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165729] Re: Polarity protection Message-ID: <009a01c3de85$c0f1e200$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The funniest mistake I ever saw was a guy building an extender card for a > big EMG machine. > With bated breath we watched as he threw the switch and the smoke rolled > out and it spit > chart paper out at about 300 feet/minute. :-) :-) > 73 to all > Pete NV4V Reminds me of the old DataProducts P-50 printer that Radio Shack sold as the WP-1, their first daisy wheel. It used a DC motor for platen (paper feed). One common failure was the control board would provide fixed voltage, the motor would turn on, and the paper would come out at warp nine. Have a sheet feeder attached and ... Or a box of fanfold paper... Think you can get to the switch before more than half a box of paper is gone? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:22:56 -0600 From: Christopher Swan To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165730] FS: Misc Radios and other Items Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20040119071858.01b503a8@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Hello All I have some amateur radio items (radios,keys,etc) for sale. please go to my web site to see photos of the items. The web address is http://clarkbox.pointclark.net Please contact me off list at swan@uwosh.edu for prices. Thanks for the bandwidth. Chris KA5AOK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:48:43 -0700 From: "Rod N0RC" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165731] Re: QRP-L Archives or PC address books Message-ID: <005a01c3de92$f4b5ea20$6401a8c0@greyrock> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Diz, ----- Original Message ----- From: "w8diz_qrpl" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:38 AM Subject: OT: QRP-L Archives or PC address books > Hi Gang, ... > > Either robots are scanning those computers that archive our emails > or individual PCs are being abused by fowarding their address books. > Both. > This can sure get me in a bad mood :( Just venting here... ... Life on "the net".... Want to see how easy it is to get your email, and info about you: Type your callsign into Google. If you register a Domain name your info can/was/is being "harvested" from "whois" servers as well. One small thing that can help, maybe, is to not post your email address in a "mailto" link on web sites. Too easy to harvest. Place the info in a graphic image so that it can be read by humans, but not machines. You can also link that image to a small chunk of Javascript to send email when clicked. This obfuscates your address from harvesting techniques. I say maybe about this method because "harvesting" techniques may have become more sophisticated since I dug into the matter long ago. This does not solve the problem of newsgroup/email reflector archives exposing your email address. (See those Google finds mentioned above) To mitigate this problem requires the use of temporary/disposable email addresses, and the discipline to change regularly the email address(es) used in public. A variation of OTP (one time pad) cryptography. GL 73, Rod N0RC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:05:12 -0700 From: "Rod N0RC" To: "qrp-l" , Subject: [165732] PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? Message-ID: <007701c3de95$41dafd70$6401a8c0@greyrock> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Occasionally I encounter a lifted pad/trace on equipment I'm working on. I'm looking for a really good professional way to repair these faulty connections. Traces are easy, "blue-line" wire to bridge the gap. But what about pads, especially on boards with plated through holes? Are there "industry" standard techniques detailed and documented somewhere? 73, Rod N0RC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:30:03 -0600 From: Rob Matherly To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165733] Re: QRP-L Archives or PC address books Message-ID: <400BE9EB.2000805@jetnetinc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rod N0RC wrote: >Life on "the net".... Want to see how easy it is to get your email, and >info about you: Type your callsign into Google. > > Well, we have nothing to worry about now that spam has been made illegal *snicker* -- 72/73/oo - Rob, W0JRM - jimrob@jetnetinc.net - ARRL MEMBER FPQrp -330; QRPp-I #19; WATPK #1; SOC #442; ARS #1143 Are you a gun nut? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gun_nut_hams http://www.robmatherly.com <--- Not ham related! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:12:20 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: k5di@zianet.com, qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165734] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <400BF3D4.C28646CF@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karl, I agree on most of your post. However there is one nit I'd like to pick with you. Your "new" view of the code requirement is probably, actually, as old as the license itself. I can remember the same argument being used and published in some magazines way back in the mid-50s. There has always been a contingent who said their right to enjoy ham radio was being infringed by the unrealistic requirement to know the old archaic code. As for me, I don't think that code is all that hard. You find a method that suits your learning style and spend the time. Incidentally, I have noticed that 3 to 4 weeks is all it takes if you have matched the teaching method to your learning style. I belong to the last group, the 5, 13, and 20 wpm group. I didn't have the benefit of G4FON's software or any other computer learning method Computers had not reached the state where anybody could have one at home in 1954. Besides, they didn't have audio interfaces yet. I learned the code all by my loneliness. I always thought that if I could do it anyone could! Was/am I being unrealistic? I also agree with you about the League. I think it is the only organization we have ever had supporting us. Of course, I couldn't quit if I wanted to, at least not without repercussions, I have a Life Membership! 7 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:25:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Thom R. Lacosta" To: Rob Matherly Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165735] Re: QRP-L Archives or PC address books Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Rob Matherly wrote: > Rod N0RC wrote: > > >Life on "the net".... Want to see how easy it is to get your email, and > >info about you: Type your callsign into Google. > > > > > > Well, we have nothing to worry about now that spam has been made illegal > *snicker* But isn't a real shame that the guy that invented the Internet didn't outlaw SPAM at the git-go? Thom http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:32:57 -0500 From: "Dennis Ponsness" To: rc7039-hr@yahoo.com, qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165736] RE: PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Rod, Not sure if it was on here or not, but a while back, someone mentioned something about "eyelets" that are used for that purpose. I think they were brass IIRC, and you had to drill out the hole in the PCB a bit to get them to fit in there. 72 es oo Dennis - WB0WAO EN84ij Iosco County, Michigan MultiPig+ #3 - K2 #3555 DSW-II-20 - SW-40+ - SW-30+ RM-20 - RM-40 FPQRP #-347 FISTS #9299 Charter Member - Michigan DX Association www.wb0wao.com :=) _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:09:25 -0600 From: "Sam Binkley" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165737] Re: Some Battery charging circuits Message-ID: <036801c3dea6$9bfde130$a67fe344@DHT81T11> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan, Lot of good info in that site. You might also check the West Marine Master catalog as it has an excellent section on battery (don't know about "battering" tho ) charging. They have a number of stores in the Seattle area where you could pick one up. 73, Sam, KL7V/5 Subject: Some Battery charging circuits > While still looking for THE book covering battering charging (lots of RV > books) I stumbled upon this site: > http://www.discovercircuits.com/B/batt-chrg.htm > > Alan KB7MBI in Woodinville, WA > FISTS 5702 / ARS / Proud member of ARRL > ___ ___ . . . . . . ___ ___ DIT DIT > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:34:51 -0500 From: "James Reid" To: Subject: [165738] Re: fried my hw-8... need help from hw-8 pro.. Message-ID: <000301c3deaa$2a9329c0$9c4179a5@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In looking at the schematic, I would guess that the most likely candidate for frying is RFC 3. The rig is protected with a zener across the 12V line and this RFC is in series with it. I don't know just where the RFC is located but I would look for one that has a cooked appearance. I wouldn't put a diode in series with the +12V line. this will give you about a 0.8V drop that you don't need, particularly when operating from a battery. I would suggest putting a backwards diode from +12V to ground. when you reverse the voltage, the diode will blow the fuse. You do have a fuse, don't you! Jim, KD3S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:31:36 -0500 From: tk To: QRP-L reflector Subject: [165739] Weeder PIC based counter Message-ID: <400C0668.8000105@ispwest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have the schematic for the Terry Weeder 50 mhz counter. Mine is on the blink and I would like to upgrade the chip to a 16F84..... there are 2 adjustable pota on the board. Anyone know what they adjust... I believe one of them might be a contrst adjustment for hte LCD contrast. Thanks ted in Atlanta ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:43:37 -0800 (PST) From: Garie Halstead K8KFJ To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165740] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <20040119164337.50791.qmail@web60302.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A source tells me there may be a report released later today regarding the findings of the BOD meeting. 72, Gary -K8KFJ- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:51:59 -0500 From: "James Reid" To: Subject: [165741] More lists than you really wanted Message-ID: <000101c3deb5$5c9ac6c0$f95af7a5@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out www.AC6V.com/mail.htm Jim, KD3S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:51:04 +0000 From: "Terry Permenter" To: "gamach1@ispwest.com" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165742] Re: Weeder PIC based counter Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted: I would start at=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/weedfreq.htm which looks like it has a lot of info on this project. "Google" strikes again! 72, Terry K7OI On 1/19/2004, "tk" wrote: >Does anyone have the schematic for the Terry Weeder 50 mhz counter. >Mine is on the blink and I would like to upgrade the chip to a >16F84..... there are 2 adjustable pota on the board. Anyone know what >they adjust... I believe one of them might be a contrst adjustment for >hte LCD contrast. > >Thanks > >ted in Atlanta > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:56:45 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165743] Re: PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? Message-ID: <00a601c3deb5$9bb0adc0$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Folks, > > Occasionally I encounter a lifted pad/trace on equipment I'm working on. > I'm looking for a really good professional way to repair these faulty > connections. > > Traces are easy, "blue-line" wire to bridge the gap. > > But what about pads, especially on boards with plated through holes? Are > there "industry" standard techniques detailed and documented somewhere? > > 73, Rod N0RC There are repair kits. I think the last one I got was from Contact East. They have tubular 'rivits' you put through the hole and then 'peen' to flare the other end with a tool. You could put down 'tape' for the pads too. But, they would not work on multi-layer boards. Well, they would work, but you couldn't get connections to the inner layers. Still, if you repaired both sides and then jumpered over to where there was a middle layer contact point... Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:13:47 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Milton To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Cc: kearneydj@adelphia.net Subject: [165744] HW-9 For Sale Message-ID: <20040119181347.86623.qmail@web60809.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FYI - a gentleman I know from our local ham radio club has this for sale - please see description. PLEASE email him direct if you are interested. From:"Douglas J. Kearney" I am cleaning out the shack and have a bunch of stuff up forsale. If interested please contact me with any questions. Regards, Douglas Kearney N5LBJ $ 100.00 HW-9 80 - 10 Meter QRP rig This rig is not complete. It is actually missing a coil and IC to the best of my knowledge, however purchase the unit as it will be for parts, but you might only need a coil and IC. It has been on the shelf, but never got it complete. It also includes the WARC Band pack that has not been installed. i also see he has: $ 40.00 Heath Heathkit HFT-9 QRP Antenna Tuner and Manual $ 40.00 Heath Heathkit HM-9 QRP Watt Meter and Manual $ 40.00 Heath Heathkit HD-1418 Audio Filter and Manual __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:27:01 -0500 From: "The Cieslak's" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165745] HC908 question Message-ID: <200401191827.i0JIR178030563@mail5.mx.voyager.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Now that we have all these HC908 guru's out there has anybody come up with a fast 16x16 multiply...The fastest I've come up with about 32 uSeconds when running with a 8 Mhz clock...too long for my application. How about a 16x16 divide? Brian K9WIS PS I run digest mode so it will take a while to see any responses unless you reply direct. -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:30:05 -0500 From: Al Scanandoah To: rc7039-hr@yahoo.com Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165746] Re: PCB lifted pad/trace repair techniques? Message-ID: <400C222D.2040308@rochester.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pace makes a package called Cir-Kit, which consists of eyelets and pads of various sizes with short traces attached. I checked the Pace site, but couldn't manuver through their site very well. Here is some info: http://www.contacteast.com/product/group.asp?parent_id=1474 I've had very good success with this in the past. Al, K2ZN Rod N0RC wrote: > Folks, > > Occasionally I encounter a lifted pad/trace on equipment I'm working on. > I'm looking for a really good professional way to repair these faulty > connections. > > Traces are easy, "blue-line" wire to bridge the gap. > > But what about pads, especially on boards with plated through holes? Are > there "industry" standard techniques detailed and documented somewhere? > > 73, Rod N0RC > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:31:26 -0500 From: To: Subject: [165747] ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <000701c3deba$740258a0$6425ad80@f1n5n8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, gang, It's all on the table now. See the full story at the ARRL website. 73. Bill, N4QA http://www.n4qa.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:33:34 -0800 From: "Bill Smith" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165748] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <000d01c3deba$ca359b60$0203a8c0@hbco> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some time ago, I sat down to fulfill my vow taken when studying for the Conditional license (long time ago). I was determined to begin a letter campaign for the elimination of Morse Code from the license requirement. As apparent reasons presented themselves, however, so did counter-arguments and I was ultimately faced with the realization that Morse Code is easily the most efficent way to introduce basic communication skills and basic electronic technology to a non-technical person. Obviously there are many ways, but Morse Code is simply a great package that encompases many fundamental concepts while highlighting point-to-point communications as the primary Amateur communications mode. There really is a purpose in the Amateur License test, recall that the station licensee and the station operator is the same person. That is a special arrangement unique to FCC licensing. In general, the FCC does not allow the operator of a transmitter to touch the equipment. Generally, the FCC insists upon channeled frequency assignments using type-accepted equipment maintained by specialists. The Amateur operator is given the special privilege and the responsibility to determine that his transmitted signal is on the intended frequency and is not generating spurious energy. The license, and test, is the means by which an Amateur Operator demonstrates his capacity to accept this responsibility. If we loose the ability to demonstrate that capacity, we risk loosing the privilege to act as both operator and station license holder. We might be obligated to use type-accepted equipment. No more home brew, and hired technicians will need to perform maintenance. The biggest loss will be in frequency channelization, and the relative protection we currently enjoy from challenges for frequency spectrum. This concept is now under a new challenge. Mode and frequency-agile technology may alter the need for fixed frequency band allocations. We as Amateur Operators should be thinking about how we are going to position ourselves. Presently, it seems maintaining a certain skill level is at least a good investment while we prepare, if not step up to innovate our place in this new environment. 73 de Bill, AB6MT billsmith@ispwest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Muscolino To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:12 AM Subject: Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Karl, I agree on most of your post. However there is one nit I'd like to pick with you. Your "new" view of the code requirement is probably, actually, as old as the license itself. I can remember the same argument being used and published in some magazines way back in the mid-50s. There has always been a contingent who said their right to enjoy ham radio was being infringed by the unrealistic requirement to know the old archaic code. As for me, I don't think that code is all that hard. You find a method that suits your learning style and spend the time. Incidentally, I have noticed that 3 to 4 weeks is all it takes if you have matched the teaching method to your learning style. I belong to the last group, the 5, 13, and 20 wpm group. I didn't have the benefit of G4FON's software or any other computer learning method Computers had not reached the state where anybody could have one at home in 1954. Besides, they didn't have audio interfaces yet. I learned the code all by my loneliness. I always thought that if I could do it anyone could! Was/am I being unrealistic? I also agree with you about the League. I think it is the only organization we have ever had supporting us. Of course, I couldn't quit if I wanted to, at least not without repercussions, I have a Life Membership! 7 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:00:28 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165749] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A901735945@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The story just got posted to the ARRL website. This is an outline of = what the ARRL will propose to the FCC. It is not a new rule yet, and ultimately the FCC = will decide. If you support the ARRL's position, you can comment on it when the FCC opens up = the petition for comment and you can comment again on whatever Notice of Proposed = Rulemaking the FCC puts on the plate. You can, and should, do the same if you = disagree in whole or in part with anything on the regulatory plate. I will comment on one observation that Karl made: >What ever happens please don't leave the ARRL. It's all we have now. =20 Although I agree that hams should not leave ARRL over this one issue, = because doing so would undermine support of the entirety of what ARRL does. I did not get = my way in this, but I want the ARRL's spectrum, education and technical work to = continue, so I will=20 continue to support the organization. But ARRL is not all that we have now, nor has it ever been. There are = many, many good things in amateur radio and QRP that should also be supported, from groups like = QRP-ARCI to regional and local clubs like the Flying Pigs. In this area -- QRP -- "our" = organizations represent QRP better than ARRL can or could. Ditto with groups like AMSAT in the = satellite area or TAPR in the digital area. Our local Hartford-area clubs represent our local = interests better than any national=20 organization could, so hams should offer their support there, too. Yup, that's a lot of support, but there is a lot that needs to be done = to keep amateur radio around for the next generation or three. =20 Ed Hare, W1RFI ARRL Lab 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 Tel: 860-594-0318 Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis Member: IEEE C63 - Accredited Standards Committee on Electromagnetic = Compatibility Chairman: C63 SC-5, Immunity Chairman: C63 ad hoc PLC/BPL Working Group Member: SAE EMC/EMR committees Member: ICES/IEEE SCC-28 International Committee on Electromagnetic = Safety Member/staff: ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio Member/Board of Directors: QRP Amateur Radio Club International > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU=20 > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > Karl Larsen > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:56 AM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: ARRL Directors Meeting >=20 >=20 >=20 > I and many others from QRP-L have told our Directors what we=20 > believe. Your Director should listen to your feelings and=20 > vote based on=20 > the majority, but he/she doesn't need to. They can, and often are,=20 > better informed than me, and my Director will vote the way he=20 > wants to.=20 > I will not drop the ARRL because my Director voted contrary to my=20 > feelings. >=20 > The most dividing issue this time is the question of giving up=20 > Element 1 of the FCC Amateur Radio License, which is to=20 > demonstrate that=20 > you can copy (but not send) the Morse Code at 5 WPM.=20 >=20 > I think there are 3 views held by Hams about Element 1. The new=20 > view is that code is hard and is keeping thousands of people=20 > out of the=20 > hobby and now the International treaties allow the USA to=20 > drop code. The=20 > Old View is the present 5 WPM requirement, and another smaller group=20 > wants Element 1 to be 13, and 20 WPM. >=20 > The last group is interesting because since I teach code to=20 > students who know zip about it, several times I have over a 3 week=20 > period had students who really studied 30 minutes every day,=20 > and they got to 15=20 > WPM using the Koch software from G4FON. In fact one kid asked=20 > me to give=20 > him his code test at 15 WPM. He passed with flying colors. >=20 > All of this is to show there are several ideas on what=20 > to do and=20 > what the Directors decide by vote may not be your position.=20 > And then the=20 > Directors will need to get FCC to go along. What ever happens please=20 > don't leave the ARRL. It's all we have now. =20 >=20 > --=20 > =20 > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:18:18 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165750] RE: ARRL rig reviews QSK test... Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A901735946@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It looks like the first dit begins about 22 ms after key closure and the = 2nd begins about 16 ms after=20 key closure. This probably would be just noticeable in 20 wpm = on-the-air operation, but only by the=20 most discering CW listener. The ARRL tests keying at 60 wpm. The reason for this is that if it were = tested at slower speeds, the=20 visual data would not show the rise and fall times in any meaningful = way. By upping the keying speed like we do, the on/off times and rise and fall times can actually = be read from the graph. Ed Hare, W1RFI ARRL Lab 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 Tel: 860-594-0318 Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis Member: IEEE C63 - Accredited Standards Committee on Electromagnetic Compatibility Chairman: C63 SC-5, Immunity Chairman: C63 ad hoc PLC/BPL Working Group Member: SAE EMC/EMR committees Member: ICES/IEEE SCC-28 International Committee on Electromagnetic Safety Member: ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio Member/Board of Directors: QRP Amateur Radio Club International > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU=20 > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > bill@n4qa.com > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 10:30 AM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: ARRL rig reviews QSK test... >=20 >=20 > Was reading my QST, February, 2004 last evening and took a=20 > gander at the > K2/100 QSK test...so-so results...first dit RF envelope=20 > beginning AFTER > first-dit key-UP... second-dit RF envelope beginning about 5=20 > milliseconds > BEFORE second-dit key-up... >=20 > So long as it 'sounds' ok? > I say any rig sounds as it looks...fixed delay in the=20 > 'sending station's' > rig is one thing...I can detect that only by viewing the=20 > waveforms...varying > delay, whole 'nother story... > For my own sending, there's how it 'sounds' in my rig's=20 > sidetone and then > there's how it 'sounds' in a properly adjusted separate local=20 > receiver... >=20 > Anyway... > I'd like to know what you guys think about the ARRL's=20 > conditions under which > a rig-under-review is tested for "CW keying waveform", > particularly regarding the "equivalent keying speed is 60 WPM" spec. > Granted, all rigs should be tested under equal conditions,=20 > but 60 WPM?...how > 'bout 6 WPM with a scope sweep speed of 100 milliseconds per=20 > division... > Ok, perhaps that'd be swinging to the opposite extreme.=20 > Umm...15 WPM with > scope sweep speed of 40 mS per (using variable sweep, of=20 > course), maybe? > I know, some other digital modes are affected by a rig's=20 > 'QSK' abilities > (especially,a rig's receiver recovery time) but I'm only interested in > discussing CW for the immediate, including that receiver=20 > recovery time( the > other half of QSK)... > And, what about using 14.2 MHz for Hf rigs in CW=20 > mode...right, it really > doesn't matter, technically...14.2 MHz or 14.06 MHz etc... >=20 > What do y'all say? >=20 >=20 >=20 > 73. > Bill, N4QA > http://www.n4qa.com >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:25:28 -0500 From: brewerj@squared.com To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165751] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If I had $2000 coming from a tax refund, I would: 1) Change my deductions so that Uncle Sam doesn't have free use of my money all throughout 2004....... John K5MO ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:35:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Thom R. Lacosta" To: bill@n4qa.com Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165752] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 bill@n4qa.com wrote: > Well, gang, > It's all on the table now. > See the full story at the ARRL website. Curious....is there still a requirement for RTTY stations to ID in cw? Couldn't help noticing that the league website is still using silly surveys. Thom http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:44:07 -0500 From: To: Subject: [165753] RE: ARRL rig reviews QSK test... Message-ID: <000f01c3dec4$9b305c60$6425ad80@f1n5n8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you, Ed. And that pretty much sums up all that's already been said on this subject :0) 73. Bill, N4QA http://www.n4qa.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:45:17 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Milton To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165754] Re: End fed 80 meter wires Message-ID: <20040119194517.72901.qmail@web60802.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes to feed odd antenna lengths open wire feedline is excellent. And its better to feed in the middle ... but i am having good success with an off-center fed dipole. My particular antenna has a short side of around 50 feet and a long side of around 150+ feet. the main benefit for me is that it puts feedline closer to shack. the pattern is not "ideal" but nor is any other antenna when its appreciably larger than a half wavelength. it does tend to endfire a bit on 40 and 30 meters in the general direction of the long end - which for me is europe. this antenna is better behaved than an end fed as its feed impedance is lower on most if not all bands. still, i use ferrite treatment on my microphone and key wires and that works well up to 100w. for QRP you probably need no treatment for this type of antenna if your short end is approaching a quarter wave. have fun and experiment amidst your antenna limitations (mine is lack of high natural supports!). curt wb8yyy --- Karl Larsen wrote: > > I'm afraid that end feeding anything winds up with > an old L > antenna. I tried to introduce a tuned 450 ohm feeder > to an end fed > antenna and failed. When I checked for feedline > radiation I discovered > the FEEDLINE was part of the RADIATOR! > > When you bring the radiator to your tuner you get > RF in the > hamshack problems. And the radiating feedline causes > odd problems with > your pattern. > > That's why about 1925 Hams experimented with > "feedlines". This > device gets power from your transmitter to your > antenna with a minimum > of loss and no radiation. > > Experiance has shown that feeding a 1/2 wave dipole > can be done > best at the center of it. A high impedance balanced > feedline can sustain > a very high SWR and remain a low loss feedline. That > is why so many wire > antenna's are fed with 450 ohm ribbon, and a single > dipole can be used > on many bands. And there is never any problem of RF > in the Hamshack. > > -- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az > ScQRPions - > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:53:53 -0800 From: Wayne Burdick To: Elecraft , qrp Subject: [165755] Elecraft KXAT1 ATU upgrade: manual receive signal peaking Message-ID: <400C35C8.38E99696@elecraft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Revision 1.2 of the KXAT1 ATU firmware is now available. (The KXAT1 is the internal automatic antenna tuner for our KX1 transceiver.) Rev. 1.2 adds manual receive-signal peaking capability to the ATU. There are 32 manual settings, providing enough resolution to bring a wide range of random-length antennas approximately into resonance. This feature is useful for maximizing received signal strength anywhere in the rig's VFO tuning range without transmitting. Resonating the antenna in the band of interest can also help reject strong out of band signals. Manual peaking is especially appropriate for the KX1, since the rig covers many popular SWL band segments in the 5-16 MHz range. The selected manual setting will persist even if the KX1 is turned off. These settings are not stored on a per-band basis, however, and if you return the ATU to TUN mode, the network settings from the most recent auto-tune on each band will be restored. Manual settings should not be used for transmit purposes; the normal auto-tune method has much finer resolution. See our web site for ordering information ($19 plus shipping). Revision 1.2 is already shipping with new KXAT1 kits. We'd like to thank Bruce Prior, N7RR, for suggesting this feature. 73, Wayne N6KR -- http://www.elecraft.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:55:18 +0100 From: "Sverre Holm" To: "'Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion'" Subject: [165756] RE: Toroids and magnets Message-ID: <001001c3dec6$2a6fb280$8e00a8c0@Master> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all who answered this thread. It appears that there is no immediate danger of permanent damage to ferrites from magnetic fields, but still I sense a somwhat cautious attitude. BTW, I found the source of my initial concern: http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/2003-05/msg00509.htm l -- 73, Sverre ------------------ Sverre Holm, LA3ZA www.qsl.net/la3za ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:58:53 -0600 From: "Mark Andrews \(KE4MA\)" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165757] Re: [ke4ma] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <001e01c3dec6$aae04060$cd6e640a@carrera> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I take Bill's arguments very seriously. He is absolutely correct in saying that we, as Amateur Operators, have an obligation to demonstrate a great responsibility for the privileges we have been given (or earned, as the case maybe). However, I fail to make the connection he makes, that by merely passing a 5 WPM code test, we demonstrate great responsibility? One of the arguments I make to my No-Code friends is that "... a trained monkey can pass the 5 WPM code test...". If this is the case (and we've ALL told no-coders that 5 WPM is easy, at one time or another), then simply passing a 5 WPM code test doesn't demonstrate anything other than the fact that you can study, memorize 36 characters and some prosigns and decipher enough in 1 minute of copy to answer 7 out of 10 question correctly. This certainly doesn't demonstrate to me that any human will be a good, conscientious Amateur Radio Operator. My suggestion (although a moot point now)? Give the new "Novice" just enough spectrum and power to whet his/her appetite (50khz each in 4 of the HF Bands, split into 25khz CW and 25khz phone, 50 Watts max). Make them find a General or Extra class ham with whom they are to mentor for up to 1 year before being eligible for the General or Extra class exam. The ARRL could provide this "pairing" as a service. The mentor has to sign off at the VE session, saying that this person is a responsible ham, knows the technology, etc. Make the General test like the old Advanced test, i.e.. very technical. Doing something of this nature will better ensure we have conscientious Amateur Radio Operators. 73, Mark ___________________________________ Mark A. Andrews, KE4MA QRP-L 146, QRP-ARCI 10574, QRPp-I 217 > > There really is a purpose in the Amateur License test, recall that the > station licensee and the station operator is the same person. That is a > special arrangement unique to FCC licensing. In general, the FCC does not > allow the operator of a transmitter to touch the equipment. > > Generally, the FCC insists upon channeled frequency assignments using > type-accepted equipment maintained by specialists. The Amateur operator is > given the special privilege and the responsibility to determine that his > transmitted signal is on the intended frequency and is not generating > spurious energy. The license, and test, is the means by which an Amateur > Operator demonstrates his capacity to accept this responsibility. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Milton To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165758] Re: If I had the money... Message-ID: <20040119200006.84441.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii While having a rig with a great receiver (high dynamic range, low phase noise, narrow CW filtering) is a big plus - we all determine what is good enough as few of us have the "ideal." I do find operating events more enjoyable when using the best rig in my shack, but fun can be had with simpler rigs (like my 38S !). Yes some features can be "less necessary." For SSB operating I do find receiver performance is less a factor for me, but I am sure DX'ers and contesters will disagree. As for "well designed" rigs that have good CW filtering and low phase noise, I really don't know how big a factor dynamic range is until you have other nearby transmitters. Given alternatives of using NE602 style receivers versus basic diode mixers versus higher performance mixers - how much difference this makes in the average ham shack is not clear to me! a fellow QRP'er who lives less than 10 miles away from me often "test" each other's rigs by operating a few hundred Hz away in QRP operating events. i do get better results with the higher dynamic range receiver! Meanwhile enjoy ham radio with what you have, as i am suspicious critical mass may be as simple as a well assembled K1 or SW-series rig! but i am not parting with my K2! curt wb8yyy --- Steven Weber wrote: > I've never owned, nor even operated a "high end" > rig. Is it really worth > spending the big bucks for a high end rig, or do you > just end up with a > whole lot of bells and whisles and more knobs and > buttons than you can > possibly remeber what they all do? And are these > rigs really any good on > CW, a mode which often seems to be added as an after > thought? > > > 72, > Steve, KD1JV > "Melt Solder" > White Mountains of New Hampshire > http://www.qsl.net/kd1jv/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:05:08 -0600 From: "Tony Martin W4FOA" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165759] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <006d01c3dec7$89c122e0$6401a8c0@Delldude> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe I'm missing something here. It seems the summary from ARRL says "to include HF phone" privileges, etc...then later it says limited HF CW/Data and Phone/Image transmissions. CW? Pray tell where are these "codeless" "entry level" licensees going to "practice" their HF CW? Just a few years ago I think we had an "entry level" license, called a "novice" license, complete with power restrictions and a few HF bands for honing their skills. The ARRL gang at HQs continues to amaze me with their "imagination" and "creativity". 10-4 ? Tony, W4FOA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 1:00 PM Subject: RE: ARRL Directors Meeting > The story just got posted to the ARRL website. This is an outline of what the ARRL will > propose to the FCC. It is not a new rule yet, and ultimately the FCC will decide. If you > support the ARRL's position, you can comment on it when the FCC opens up the petition > for comment and you can comment again on whatever Notice of Proposed Rulemaking > the FCC puts on the plate. You can, and should, do the same if you disagree in whole or > in part with anything on the regulatory plate. > > I will comment on one observation that Karl made: > > >What ever happens please don't leave the ARRL. It's all we have now. > > Although I agree that hams should not leave ARRL over this one issue, because doing so > would undermine support of the entirety of what ARRL does. I did not get my way in this, > but I want the ARRL's spectrum, education and technical work to continue, so I will > continue to support the organization. > > But ARRL is not all that we have now, nor has it ever been. There are many, many good things > in amateur radio and QRP that should also be supported, from groups like QRP-ARCI to regional > and local clubs like the Flying Pigs. In this area -- QRP -- "our" organizations represent QRP > better than ARRL can or could. Ditto with groups like AMSAT in the satellite area or TAPR in > the digital area. Our local Hartford-area clubs represent our local interests better than any national > organization could, so hams should offer their support there, too. > > Yup, that's a lot of support, but there is a lot that needs to be done to keep amateur radio around > for the next generation or three. > > Ed Hare, W1RFI > ARRL Lab > 225 Main St > Newington, CT 06111 > Tel: 860-594-0318 > Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org > Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis > Member: IEEE C63 - Accredited Standards Committee on Electromagnetic Compatibility > Chairman: C63 SC-5, Immunity > Chairman: C63 ad hoc PLC/BPL Working Group > Member: SAE EMC/EMR committees > Member: ICES/IEEE SCC-28 International Committee on Electromagnetic Safety > Member/staff: ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio > Member/Board of Directors: QRP Amateur Radio Club International > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU > > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > > Karl Larsen > > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:56 AM > > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > > Subject: ARRL Directors Meeting > > > > > > > > I and many others from QRP-L have told our Directors what we > > believe. Your Director should listen to your feelings and > > vote based on > > the majority, but he/she doesn't need to. They can, and often are, > > better informed than me, and my Director will vote the way he > > wants to. > > I will not drop the ARRL because my Director voted contrary to my > > feelings. > > > > The most dividing issue this time is the question of giving up > > Element 1 of the FCC Amateur Radio License, which is to > > demonstrate that > > you can copy (but not send) the Morse Code at 5 WPM. > > > > I think there are 3 views held by Hams about Element 1. The new > > view is that code is hard and is keeping thousands of people > > out of the > > hobby and now the International treaties allow the USA to > > drop code. The > > Old View is the present 5 WPM requirement, and another smaller group > > wants Element 1 to be 13, and 20 WPM. > > > > The last group is interesting because since I teach code to > > students who know zip about it, several times I have over a 3 week > > period had students who really studied 30 minutes every day, > > and they got to 15 > > WPM using the Koch software from G4FON. In fact one kid asked > > me to give > > him his code test at 15 WPM. He passed with flying colors. > > > > All of this is to show there are several ideas on what > > to do and > > what the Directors decide by vote may not be your position. > > And then the > > Directors will need to get FCC to go along. What ever happens please > > don't leave the ARRL. It's all we have now. > > > > -- > > > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:10:39 -0500 From: "K2PQ" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [165760] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... Message-ID: <003501c3dec8$4f097070$6600a8c0@DOWNSTAIRS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If I had $2000 coming from a tax refund, I would: > > 1) Change my deductions so that Uncle Sam doesn't have free use of > my money all throughout 2004....... > > John K5MO > > And looking at the boards decision I sure wouldn't invest $2000 in this hobby. Frank... K2PQ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:20:39 -0800 From: Bob Nielsen To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165761] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <20040119202039.GA17085@bob> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Considering that just about any position the ARRL board could take would have significant dissent among the members, I find this proposal to be quite well thought-out. It's not necessarily what I would choose, but makes sense to me as a compromise between the various positions and hopefully the FCC will receive it favorably. Let the flames begin! 72/73, Bob N7XY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:20:17 +0000 From: Howard Oakley To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165762] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 19/1/04 18:33, Bill Smith wrote: > There really is a purpose in the Amateur License test, recall that the > station licensee and the station operator is the same person. That is a > special arrangement unique to FCC licensing. In general, the FCC does not > allow the operator of a transmitter to touch the equipment. > > Generally, the FCC insists upon channeled frequency assignments using > type-accepted equipment maintained by specialists. The Amateur operator is > given the special privilege and the responsibility to determine that his > transmitted signal is on the intended frequency and is not generating > spurious energy. The license, and test, is the means by which an Amateur > Operator demonstrates his capacity to accept this responsibility. > > If we loose the ability to demonstrate that capacity, we risk loosing the > privilege to act as both operator and station license holder. We might be > obligated to use type-accepted equipment. No more home brew, and hired > technicians will need to perform maintenance. The biggest loss will be in > frequency channelization, and the relative protection we currently enjoy > from challenges for frequency spectrum. Bill, You clearly know the FCC better than I. Given that plenty of other licensing authorities around the world have found themselves able to remove the Morse requirement without enforcing separation of operator and station, or (even in the bureaucratic EU) banning non type-approved equipment, or forcing channelisation on amateurs, I wonder why the FCC should be so hostile? And I also wonder how competence in Morse demonstrates operator skills or responsibility in any other mode, such as SSTV or SSB? 72, Howard. Dr Howard Oakley Isle of Wight, UK M1BWR (IO90JO, EU-120) Active from 80 m to 23 cm QRP ARCI 11583; UKSMG 1718; ARRL; RSGB; RNARS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:21:42 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165763] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <200401191521.43017.jsielke@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just about what I expected. At least the UK and the Japanese limit their "Novices" to 10 watts, but then, that wouldn't sell many FT1000's here, would it? If it were the case, would make a good reason for more companies to come out with QRP stuff. AND, it would make the claim of the Novice not needing to "know that RF Field stuff." more believable. John W2AGN "10-4 good buddy, I'm destinated...." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:27:31 -0500 From: "Patrick Schwarz - KB8RTZ" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165764] Re: Measuring Ground Resistance Message-ID: <00cf01c3deca$ad4d7300$48708318@ce1.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A huge thanks from my father, Mike, KB8RTX and myself for all of your responses. He was given one way to measure ground resistance, but it didn't sound right to him. I found one way via google, but since I'm not an electrician it was all greek to me, but I also asked a fellow ham at a club meeting over the weekend and he spelled out what I found. Coincidentally, one of you mentioned PolyPhasor which is where the fellow ham works. :-) Thanks a mil... Patrick...KB8RTZ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:29:43 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: Subject: [165765] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A90251262A@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Curious....is there still a requirement for RTTY stations to ID in cw? No. =20 > Couldn't help noticing that the league website is still using silly = surveys. Some people enjoy them. I believe that ARRL, QRZ and eham.net all have = surveys. =20 Ed Hare, W1RFI ARRL Lab 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 Tel: 860-594-0318 Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis Member: IEEE C63 - Accredited Standards Committee on Electromagnetic = Compatibility Chairman: C63 SC-5, Immunity Chairman: C63 ad hoc PLC/BPL Working Group Member: SAE EMC/EMR committees Member: ICES/IEEE SCC-28 International Committee on Electromagnetic = Safety Member/staff: ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio Member/Board of Directors: QRP Amateur Radio Club International > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU=20 > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > Thom R. Lacosta > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:36 PM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live > with 'em... >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 bill@n4qa.com wrote: >=20 > > Well, gang, > > It's all on the table now. > > See the full story at the ARRL website. >=20 > Curious....is there still a requirement for RTTY stations to ID in cw? >=20 >=20 > Couldn't help noticing that the league website is still using silly > surveys. >=20 >=20 > Thom >=20 > http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon > http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:29:55 -0500 From: "Brad Hedges" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165766] Re: If you had the money for a new rig... Message-ID: <003d01c3decb$00104720$53242118@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, actually they only got less than $800... the rest comes from being an Infantryman in the 82d Airborne with two kids and deployed most of the year, who donated a bunch of stuff to various charities... and the $2K is "only" my cut, after the other $4300 +/- goes to redoing the kitchen! We're doing the happy dance in our house about now... Brad ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: Re: If you had the money for a new rig... > If I had $2000 coming from a tax refund, I would: > > 1) Change my deductions so that Uncle Sam doesn't have free use of > my money all throughout 2004....... > > John K5MO > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:36:23 -0500 From: To: Subject: [165767] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <001701c3decb$e8e5af80$6425ad80@f1n5n8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dunno, Thom. But I can imagine that, at some point in the future, CW ops would be obliged to ID in 'voice'. 73. Bill, N4QA http://www.n4qa.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:25:58 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165768] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <017f01c3deca$73d7fa00$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Just about what I expected. At least the UK and the Japanese limit their > "Novices" to 10 watts, but then, that wouldn't sell many FT1000's here, would > it? If it were the case, would make a good reason for more companies to come > out with QRP stuff. AND, it would make the claim of the Novice not needing to > "know that RF Field stuff." more believable. I know... God forbid they find out how much fun QRP can be! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:53:03 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165769] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A901735947@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No flames from me, Bob. This is not exactly what I would have done, but = it you ask=20 10 different hams what should be done, you will get 11 different = answers. Clearly, what the ARRL Board has put together is a compromise, but, IMHO, that is = exactly what is needed. I keep coming back in my own mind to what I had to do to enter ham radio = in=20 1963. That Novice exam was so simple (seen with today's eyes) that this = 13-year old kid was willing to do it. Today, the Tech exam is not so simple, = requiring 80 printed pages of questions in the question pool with study guides = that teach the principles involved taking up 200 some-odd pages. =20 In the spirit of not "dumbing down" amateur radio, we have gone from = asking new hams to study 3.5.pages of study guide to studying 200 pages, and we wonder why we don't have youth in radio. I agree with the ARRL Board's decision to have an entry-level license = that is about halfway between today's entry-level Technician exam and the entry-level exam that got me into ham radio. When you look at the = dismal percentage of new licencees that actually get on the air and go on to do = meaningful things in ham radio, it is clear that VHF only operating = privileges are not going to do much to help amateur radio prosper and grow. =20 Ham radio is not dying, but most would agree that hamfest attendance is = down some; club-meeting attendance is down some; on-the-air activities are = down some, all not boding well for the future of ham radio. The QRP community is a = shining exception, but if want to see amateur radio be the vibrant, thriving = community it once was, we may want to make sure that our newcomers are made part = of that community from the getgo. When I was a lad in the 60s, I felt that there was one amateur radio = community. I felt like I was part of that community. Can we really say the same = today? Is that division that takes place above 30 MHz a sign of deeper divisions = that=20 may not need to exist?=20 Although I would have personally kept code testing in the amateur radio=20 service differently than the ARRL proposal, I can hardly argue with its statement that if the Extra is the highest testing achievement, it is = not unreasonable to expect that it would include proficiency in the 2nd-most used HF operating mode. At this point, we have two choices -- we can choose to continue the = divisions between the code- and no-code sides, or we can get behind a proposal = that contains some elements of both sides and try to rebuild the sense of = oneness and camraderie that once made amateur radio one community united in a = common cause. No solution is perfect, and no compromise is completely pleasing = to=20 everyone, but this is a proposal that has a chance with the FCC and that = makes a good-faith effort to include the points of view across the wide range of opinion. As I hoped, the ARRL did not make the decision that could appear to be in the short-term best interests of the ARRL, but it = put together a plan that its Board members thought was in the best long-term interests of the Amateur Radio Service, with an eye to the present, = future and past. In the long run, I think that may be best for everyone. Ed Hare, W1RFI > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU=20 > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > Bob Nielsen > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:21 PM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: Re: ARRL Directors Meeting >=20 >=20 > Considering that just about any position the ARRL board could=20 > take would > have significant dissent among the members, I find this proposal to be > quite well thought-out. It's not necessarily what I would choose, but > makes sense to me as a compromise between the various positions and > hopefully the FCC will receive it favorably. =20 >=20 > Let the flames begin! >=20 > 72/73, Bob N7XY >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:56:07 -0500 From: Jack e wigal To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165770] Repeat and Question sign Message-ID: <20040119.155607.-705369.4.kr8z1@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back in the early 60's when our Uncle (Sam) taught me Morse Code, we used INT for a question and IMI was used as a repeat sign. Does anyone know why hams use IMI for both???? Jack KR8Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:04:37 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165771] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A901735948@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The power levels in the Novice proposal are at or below the limits the = FCC has set=20 for the need to do an RF safety evaluation. For SSB operation, here are = the diagonal distances that people must remain from the antenna at 100 watts: Band Antenna gain Distance 80 M 2.2 dBi 0.6 feet 40 M 2.2 dBi 1.2 feet 15 M 2.2 dBi 3.5 feet 10 M 2.2 dBi 4.6 feet (100 watts) 10 M 2.2 dBi 3.3 feet (50 watts) 15 M 7.5 dBi 6.4 feet 10 M 7.5 dBi 8.5 feet (100 watts) 10 M 7.5 dBi 6.0 feet (50 watts) These are conservative estimates, based on the presumption that one is in the main beam of the antenna and that there is 4 dB worth of scatterer (typically ground). The rules, btw, are based on "whole body" = exposure, so in the case of an antenna like an 80 meter dipole, one = could not be 0.6 feet from the entire antenna, nor would one's whole body be as = close as 3 feet of so from any antenna unless it were orientated perfectly = with the entire length of the body. The FCC beleived that below the threshold to evaluate stations, most reasonable stations would be in compliance. I think that the premise that complex questions about RF safety do not need to be part of the=20 "Novice" exam is reasonable. Ed Hare, W1RFI ARRL Lab 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 Tel: 860-594-0318 Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis Member: IEEE C63 - Accredited Standards Committee on Electromagnetic = Compatibility Chairman: C63 SC-5, Immunity Chairman: C63 ad hoc PLC/BPL Working Group Member: SAE EMC/EMR committees Member: ICES/IEEE SCC-28 International Committee on Electromagnetic = Safety Member/staff: ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio Member/Board of Directors: QRP Amateur Radio Club International > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU=20 > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > John Sielke > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:22 PM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live > with 'em... >=20 >=20 > Just about what I expected. At least the UK and the Japanese=20 > limit their=20 > "Novices" to 10 watts, but then, that wouldn't sell many=20 > FT1000's here, would=20 > it? If it were the case, would make a good reason for more=20 > companies to come=20 > out with QRP stuff. AND, it would make the claim of the=20 > Novice not needing to=20 > "know that RF Field stuff." more believable. >=20 >=20 >=20 > John W2AGN > "10-4 good buddy, I'm destinated...." >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:27:14 -0700 From: "M.M." To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165772] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040119141522.0267f138@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Well, I think it's a pretty good compromise. I don't have a problem with the proposed new Novice class. Its time has come. However, I'd have preferred to see a 5wpm requirement for the proposed new General class and a higher, perhaps 10 wpm, requirement for the Extra. And I agree with Ed...bringing all hams together would be a Good Thing... 73... Mark AA7TA (first licensed in 1960...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:28:37 -0600 From: "Sam Binkley" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165773] Re: Repeat and Question sign Message-ID: <03b101c3ded3$338ead00$a67fe344@DHT81T11> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jack, INT is a military prosign meaning "interrogative" while IMI is international meaning either "repeat" or question mark. 73, Sam, KL7V/5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack e wigal" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:56 PM Subject: Repeat and Question sign > Back in the early 60's when our Uncle (Sam) taught me Morse Code, we used > INT for a question and IMI was used as a repeat sign. Does anyone know > why hams use IMI for both???? > Jack KR8Z > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:30:52 -0500 From: "Patrick Schwarz - KB8RTZ" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165774] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <010b01c3ded3$83ff05a0$48708318@ce1.client2.attbi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > AND, it would make the claim of the Novice not needing to > "know that RF Field stuff." more believable. > > John W2AGN > "10-4 good buddy, I'm destinated...." Let me make sure I read this correctly: are you saying Novices need no exposure to safe rf limits or never to touch an antenna when the radio is keyed? Yikes. Patrick...KB8RTZ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:34:10 +0000 From: "Bill Rowlett" To: myetsko@insydesw.com, qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165775] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed One, I will be surprized if the FCC goes for the new entry class. The quick way to solve this is to leave the classes as they are and maintain the 5 wpm for the extra. The FCC wants to keep any change simple and easy to bring about with the least paper trail. Will be interesting to see what falls out in its final form. 73, Bill kc4atu >From: "Mike Yetsko" >Reply-To: myetsko@insydesw.com >To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" >Subject: Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with >'em... >Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:25:58 -0500 > > > > > Just about what I expected. At least the UK and the Japanese limit their > > "Novices" to 10 watts, but then, that wouldn't sell many FT1000's here, >would > > it? If it were the case, would make a good reason for more companies to >come > > out with QRP stuff. AND, it would make the claim of the Novice not >needing to > > "know that RF Field stuff." more believable. > >I know... > >God forbid they find out how much fun QRP can be! > _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:41:46 -0800 From: "k6xr" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165776] RE: Repeat and Question sign Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit they also taught that in the early 50's when I was a Navy radioman -----Original Message----- From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of Jack e wigal Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:56 PM To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: Repeat and Question sign Back in the early 60's when our Uncle (Sam) taught me Morse Code, we used INT for a question and IMI was used as a repeat sign. Does anyone know why hams use IMI for both???? Jack KR8Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:42:33 -0600 From: Richard Clem To: Subject: [165777] FOX Tuesday fox hunt announcement. Message-ID: <353iasVQh6528S08.1074548553@uwdvg008.cms.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Along with KR0U, I will be one of your foxi this coming Tuesday. We will= both be near 7040--one of us below, and one of us above, calling CQ FOX. = I will start out working split. (I generally like to keep it somewhat cl= ose, so calling me about 1 or 1.5 kHz above my frequency is a good bet at the beginning.) As things get quieter, I'll be listening closer and closer t= o my frequency. If you hear my calling a lonely CQ and no other hounds are in= sight (which sometimes happens after the first hour), I'll probably be listening on my own frequency. Just send your call, and I'll come back with something like: W1ABC 599 MN RICK 5W W1ABC DE W0IS K You send RST, State/Province/Country, Name, and Power. If you hear an RR= RRR or QSL, you're in the log. For the rockbound ops, I'll try to listen at least some of the time right= on 7040. QRPPPP'ers are encouraged--I'd love to put a 100 MW in the log! T= he fun starts Tuesday evening in North America-- 9PM EST, 8 PM CST, 7PM MST,= 6PM PST, and runs 2 hours. Full rules and details can be found at http://www.cqc.org/fox/ 73, Rick W0IS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:55:56 -0500 From: Jack e wigal To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [165778] Re: Repeat and Question sign Message-ID: <20040119.165557.-705369.5.kr8z1@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Sam, I was talking to a couple ol WW2 ops this morning and they couldn't remember if they used INT or not, so I figured I could get the answer here. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:13:33 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165779] ARRL Proposal Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I printed out the ARRL Proposal from the web page and have studied it. In general I really like what was done. The new Novice Class should be easy enough for young people who have a desire to be a Ham and join us on our 75 meter net. They will not be able to use 20 meters. They have a 25 question test and no code required. The General is just about the same as it is now. Tech and Tech+ will become General automatically. There is no code test for General. The Extra Class remains exactly as it is today. Same 50 question test and 5 WPM code. So it does not eliminate the Code Test from the Amatuer Radio examinations but it does allow HF privleges to classes that do not require a code test. Now my changes. I would require the new Extra Class Ham to have 20 WPM code. I would not have a 50 watt limit on 10 meters. The New Novice can run 100 watts output on all frequencies they can use. I figure if a guy wants to be Extra, he needs to prove he is extra good. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:13:04 EST From: Mercxx@aol.com To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [165780] Shack Cleaning For Sale Message-ID: <1cb.181312d0.2d3db070@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good afternoon, I have the following items for sale: 1. Fort Smith Sidekick receiver unbuilt with documentation, only opened to look at contents. $25.00 plus shipping. 2. Norcal Miniboots 5 watt amplifier, unbuilt with documentation only opened to look at it. $25.00 plus shipping. 3. Foxx-3 30 meter transceiver from Kanga unbuilt with documentation only opened to look at. $35.00 plus shipping. Kits are complete and ready to go. 4. SW+ 20 meter transceiver (built) with enclosure and all documentation no mods. $55.00 plus shipping. 5. 38 special (built) in enclosure with all documentation. $35.00 plus shipping. 6. WM-1 wattmeter by Oak Hills Research with documentation $50.00 plus shipping. All items to be shipped priority mail to your location from 33830 unless asked to do otherwise. Reason for selling, saving up for a KX-1 by Elecraft. Have a great day and thanks for reading. 73 Steve N4TKP Bartow, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:24:08 -0700 From: Jerry Haigwood To: QRP-L Reflector Subject: [165781] We're still shipping paddles Message-ID: <400C5908.27D08502@swlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, We have shipped some more paddles. On Saturday I shipped 65 paddles and tomorrow John Stevens, K5JS, and I will be shipping more. I have updated the list showing paddles shipped up through S/N 428 but expect a few more in a day or so. This batch (batch 4) took a bit longer to get out than we had anticipated. Personal and other type problems slowed us down a bit. My wife had surgery a week ago today and I spent a couple of days with her in the hospital. She is doing fine. We normally try to ship by the date promised but we missed this one by a couple of days. I was hoping we could get caught up with the orders with this batch but we are still about 30-40 paddles backordered. The next batch (batch 5) will be shipped about February 6 or so. Again, it is our hope to get caught up but that depends on how many orders we receive between now and then. I know it is weird to talk about hot weather while most of the nation is below freezing but here in Arizona, we know it is just a few months away. We usually hit 100 degrees in late April or early May. So, we may have to figure out how to manufacture paddles in 115 degree heat. In fact sometimes my garage gets hotter than that! Right now we are not sure what to do. We are considering scaling back the operation during the hottest months (June-September) and picking it back up next Fall. Now of course all of this assumes we are still selling paddles by then. :-) We'll let everyone know of our decision. Have fun building the paddles. As always, we thank you for your support. Jerry W5JH AZ ScQRPions http://www.swlink.net/~w5jh/brasspaddle.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:28:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Thom R. Lacosta" To: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165782] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Hare,Ed, W1RFI wrote: > > Curious....is there still a requirement for RTTY stations to ID in cw? > > No. Ah...thank you for the information. > > > Couldn't help noticing that the league website is still using silly surveys. > > Some people enjoy them. I believe that ARRL, QRZ and eham.net all have surveys. And of the three mentioned ARRL recently had to apologize all over the place for theirs. Thom http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:30:38 -0800 From: "Bill Smith" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165783] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <007a01c3dedb$eb731de0$0203a8c0@hbco> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The proposed frequency refarming increases voice on 40 meters into areas arguably as busy with CW as any band, yet 250 kHz of lightly used CW space remains in the proposal on 80, even though popular SSB/AM is effectively still jammed into the upper 200 kHz of that 500 kHz allocation. Just curious, what issues were involved to reach this compromise? 73 de Bill, AB6MT billsmith@ispwest.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Hare,Ed, W1RFI To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:53 PM Subject: RE: ARRL Directors Meeting No flames from me, Bob. This is not exactly what I would have done, but it you ask 10 different hams what should be done, you will get 11 different answers. Clearly, what the ARRL Board has put together is a compromise, but, IMHO, that is exactly what is needed. I keep coming back in my own mind to what I had to do to enter ham radio in 1963. That Novice exam was so simple (seen with today's eyes) that this 13-year old kid was willing to do it. Today, the Tech exam is not so simple, requiring 80 printed pages of questions in the question pool with study guides that teach the principles involved taking up 200 some-odd pages. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:31:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Thom R. Lacosta" To: bill@n4qa.com Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165784] Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 bill@n4qa.com wrote: > Dunno, Thom. I have been corrected... > > But I can imagine that, at some point in the future, CW ops would be obliged > to ID in 'voice'. Oh...why that would mean there could be no emission type restrictions. I guess the next step would be to insure that all commercial transmitters that now use CW to identify the transmitter use something else. Thom http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:35:16 -0700 From: "Bud Haynes" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165785] Re: [ke4ma] Re: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <001901c3dedc$85a65df0$84e8fea9@BUD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My suggestion (although a moot point now)? Give the new "Novice" just enough spectrum and power to whet his/her appetite (50khz each in 4 of the HF Bands, split into 25khz CW and 25khz phone, 50 Watts max). Make them find a General or Extra class ham with whom they are to mentor for up to 1 year before being eligible for the General or Extra class exam. The ARRL could provide this "pairing" as a service. The mentor has to sign off at the VE session, saying that this person is a responsible ham, knows the technology, etc. Make the General test like the old Advanced test, i.e.. very technical. Doing something of this nature will better ensure we have conscientious Amateur Radio Operators. 73, Mark +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mark, that is not too far off of what we had the year that you were born. I will not debate code/nocode with anyone, but I will say that all that you get out of anything is what you put in. Put nothing in, get nothing out. Bud - KV7G - Yuma, AZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:39:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Thom R. Lacosta" To: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [165786] RE: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Hare,Ed, W1RFI wrote: > > Ham radio is not dying, but most would agree that hamfest attendance is down > some; club-meeting attendance is down some; on-the-air activities are down some, > all not boding well for the future of ham radio. The QRP community is a shining > exception, but if want to see amateur radio be the vibrant, thriving community > it once was, we may want to make sure that our newcomers are made part of that > community from the getgo. While wee shouldn't make entering the hobby extremely difficult, we also need to realize that there are many, many things that may be far more exciting than experiencing ham radio. There's not a lot of magic left in hearing folks talk over the radio...you don't need a license to get on FRS or use your cell phone. Admitedly, there are lots of exciting things in Ham radio...but at first glimpse, it may not be exciting. I don't beleive that dumbing down the entrance requirements and eliminating some of the mysteries will entice that many more folks to joins us. Thom http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:41:23 -0500 From: "n3drk" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165787] Fw: ARRL Directors Meeting Message-ID: <004d01c3dedd$5db55750$6400a8c0@n3drk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" > > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:53 PM > > Subject: RE: ARRL Directors Meeting > > > Although I would have personally kept code testing in the amateur radio > > > service differently than the ARRL proposal, I can hardly argue with its > > > statement that if the Extra is the highest testing achievement, it is > not > > > unreasonable to expect that it would include proficiency in the 2nd-most > > > used HF operating mode. > Ed, in all due respect but i beg to differ. If the Extra is the highest testing achievement the requirement of 5wpm code is very unreasonable. Those ops who prove themselves at 20wpm should have the first 25khz of each band for their accomplishement. Plain and simple. Why dont they just do away with the code if they are promoting the 5 wpm for an Extra Class. This purely shows a lack of leadership and commitment to the values and traditions in Amateur Radio. > > > At this point, we have two choices -- we can choose to continue the > > divisions > > > between the code- and no-code sides, or we can get behind a proposal > that > > > contains some elements of both sides and try to rebuild the sense of > > oneness > > > and camraderie that once made amateur radio one community united in a > > common > > > cause. Well I choose to continue my division which exists between the code and no-coders. Why should I reach out and extend my hand to these people? I have nothing in common with them. But I support an organization which does not represent me so why should I continue to belong. I really dont belong. For 40 bucks a year this is the best the ARRL can offer? This is a joke. I would much rather perfered them to eliminate the code and just give everyone a license than this attitude of compromise. I have heard a few say if the ARRL does go against our recomendations that we should continue to support them. I am certainly not. I am not being represented so once I send off the last batch of qsls to the bureau I am going to cancel my membership for good. If the ARRL wants new members they are sure going about it the wrong way. 10-4 Good Buddy. john-n3drk > > > Ed Hare, W1RFI > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU > > > > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > > > > Bob Nielsen > > > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:21 PM > > > > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > > > > Subject: Re: ARRL Directors Meeting > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering that just about any position the ARRL board could > > > > take would > > > > have significant dissent among the members, I find this proposal to be > > > > quite well thought-out. It's not necessarily what I would choose, but > > > > makes sense to me as a compromise between the various positions and > > > > hopefully the FCC will receive it favorably. > > > > > > > > Let the flames begin! > > > > > > > > 72/73, Bob N7XY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 17:43:59 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165788] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A902512643@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ARRL ran a survey that included code testing as one of the possible = things that hams wanted to see accomplished for amateur radio in 2004. A few idiots (and = I use that word rarely) decided to spoil everyone's fun by setting up scripts to = vote their position again and again -- running the total votes above 25,000. At that point, = the survey had no meaning at all, even for the enjoyment of seeing a snapshot of what = those that chose to respond to the survey thought about the subject. ARRL pulled the survey = and ran a web-page article to explain why. It included an apology, but the ones = that really=20 SHOULD have apologized were those that thought that destroying the = survey was the best thing they could accomplish that day. Do you really think that this should be a reason for ARRL not to feature = its surveys on its web page? If so, I disagree, because when the idiots don't = decide to play their games, reading the surveys and the tabulation of responses, on ARRL's = site and others,=20 can be interesting and fun. I do not think that any of us should change = what we are doing in response to such immature and irresponsible behaviour. There = was little choice but to pull the defrauded survey, but to take it one step further and = stop doing them altogether would not have been helpful at all, IMHO. I am curious; have you publically criticized the other sites' surveys, = or do you have an issue only with ARRL's? Do you think that ARRL should stop doing the = surveys on its web page? Ed Hare, W1RFI ARRL Lab 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 Tel: 860-594-0318 Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis Member: IEEE C63 - Accredited Standards Committee on Electromagnetic = Compatibility Chairman: C63 SC-5, Immunity Chairman: C63 ad hoc PLC/BPL Working Group Member: SAE EMC/EMR committees Member: ICES/IEEE SCC-28 International Committee on Electromagnetic = Safety Member/staff: ARRL, The National Association for Amateur Radio Member/Board of Directors: QRP Amateur Radio Club International > -----Original Message----- > From: Thom R. Lacosta [mailto:lacosta@bcpl.net] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 5:28 PM > To: Hare,Ed, W1RFI > Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live > with 'em... >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Hare,Ed, W1RFI wrote: >=20 > > > Curious....is there still a requirement for RTTY stations=20 > to ID in cw? > > > > No. >=20 > Ah...thank you for the information. > > > > > Couldn't help noticing that the league website is still=20 > using silly surveys. > > > > Some people enjoy them. I believe that ARRL, QRZ and=20 > eham.net all have surveys. >=20 > And of the three mentioned ARRL recently had to apologize all over the > place for theirs. >=20 > Thom >=20 > http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon > http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:01:35 -0800 From: "Anthony Felino" To: Subject: [165789] heil hc-5 Message-ID: <200401191501.AA1258029138@pacinfotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Guys, Anyone have a source for a Heil HC-5 mic element? Apparently, they are no longer sold as elements, just complete mic assemblies. Anyone using one in an FT-817? Does it improve the transmit audio? Thanks. af, wn6q ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:07:22 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [165790] RE: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live with 'em... Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A90251264B@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I guess the next step would be to insure that all commercial = transmitters > that now use CW to identify the transmitter use something else. Do I sense another lobster-dinner wager in the making here? :-) Ed Hare, W1RFI > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU=20 > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > Thom R. Lacosta > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 5:32 PM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: Re: ARRL Board proposals made public...I *SUPPOSE* I can live > with 'em... >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 bill@n4qa.com wrote: >=20 > > Dunno, Thom. >=20 > I have been corrected... > > > > But I can imagine that, at some point in the future, CW ops=20 > would be obliged > > to ID in 'voice'. >=20 > Oh...why that would mean there could be no emission type restrictions. >=20 > I guess the next step would be to insure that all commercial=20 > transmitters > that now use CW to identify the transmitter use something else. >=20 >=20 > Thom >=20 > http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon > http://www.tlchost.net/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month >=20 ------------------------------ End of QRP-L Digest 3170 ************************ --------------------------------