Article: 317988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 06:31:47 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:ITSwe.15261$eM6.9146@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > Either way, I would like to send a complaint letter to Paypal, but it seems > they have no address either. They apparently do that so as to not not get > complaints. http://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-general Article: 317989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 06:32:27 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:ITSwe.15261$eM6.9146@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Either way, I would like to send a complaint letter to Paypal, but it seems > they have no address either. They apparently do that so as to not not get > complaints. http://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact-phone Article: 317990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott W. Harvey Subject: Re: OT: (Was: What's with ...) Date: 30 Jun 2005 14:37:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1120156920.740217.212760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In article <1120156920.740217.212760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck says... >Extra Credit Question: > >Speaking of Environmental Pollution, an Act-of-War some 2200 years ago >has resulted in an environmental disaster clearly visible to this day. >In fact, the limits of the deliberate damage were used by modern >archeologists to define the precise location of a certain place. Within >feet. What is this place, who did it and why? From the above hints, it >should be a piece of cake to figure out. It sounds like you are talking about the destruction of Carthage by the Romans. If historical accounts are accurate, about 99 percent of the population was massacred and the city and harbor were burned to the ground over a 10-day period after Carthage's defeat in a war over trade. (third punic war IIRC) -Scott Article: 317991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1120135350.317086.66600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <441b4$42c45227$4232bd76$15889@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:07:06 -0400 "-ex-" wrote in message news:441b4$42c45227$4232bd76$15889@COQUI.NET... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > I recall Pete's situation and I think things have changed now. If I > understand it correctly, if you send money to someone who doesn't have > an account and that person does not claim it after 30 days then the deal > goes dead and whatever was paid is automatically 'returned' with no > action required on the part of anyone. Payment to a nonexisting account is the ONLY transaction that can be cancelled immediately. Pete Article: 317992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1120135350.317086.66600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:28:38 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:OSXwe.23461$go.16512@fed1read05... > > > Scott was under obligation to act once HIS money was illegally > diverted by PalPay. Extortion, plain and simple. > It was never "HIS money" until it is in his account. His situation could have been easily resolved by adding the email address to his account, or having the sender cancel the payment and redirect it. There is nothing difficult about either. I still don't understand why such simple solutions are glossed over in an attempt to make the big bad corporation look evil. jim menning Article: 317993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1120135350.317086.66600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <441b4$42c45227$4232bd76$15889@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:28:45 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:c2_we.25268$go.4881@fed1read05... > > Payment to a nonexisting account is the ONLY transaction that can > be cancelled immediately. > And is exactly what we were talking about! jim menning Article: 317994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott W. Harvey Subject: Re: OT: (Was: What's with ...) Date: 30 Jun 2005 15:15:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1120156920.740217.212760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In article <1120156920.740217.212760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck says... . > >There once was a time when Solar Water Heaters were all the rage. This >was until someone did a life-cycle analysis of a solar-collector, >stone-tank, piping, insulation and circulation pumps, glycol-loop... >and the pollution generated by those items over their service life vs. >a 40 gallon conventional gas-fired or electric-fired water heater and >the pollution they generate (even at the power-plant). Guess what? The >conventional systems were a lot "cleaner" than the exotics. And that is >the entire point of purchasing stuff... What is the life-cycle cost of >that item... every part and piece of making it, transporting it, >selling it, operating it, maintaining it and most especially disposing >of it. My parents had one of those systems installed on their rooftop. It worked great, better than I ever would have guessed. Alas, the collectors developed leaks after only a few years, and they were impossible to repair. The government essentially paid for most of it through tax breaks and energy conservation incentives. Given what little my parents paid out-of-pocket and the short life span of the system, they probably just about broke even compared to a traditional system.....maybe. -Scott Article: 317995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: poor man's Catalin radio Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:09:39 -0600 Message-ID: References: <3QRwe.4593$Dv3.3894@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <42c41198$0$795$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:YaKdne4YH-Q5v1nfRVn-jA@giganews.com... >> That finish looks to be very deep, perhaps many alternating layers of >> color & clear coats? > > Maybe an auto body painter could tell you how they get a deep finish. I > always assumed it was a zillion clear coats on top of the paint . . . . imho that paint job doesnt look very deep (or good) at all. but it is well lit for the picture.... how do you get a deep finish? imho the best one is this one: NO clear coat at all!!!! NONE! use a high quality paint like pgp. let each coat dry overnight. lightly wet sand between coats. use many coats to build up the paint layer. buff to extremely high gloss when finished, then use a product like 'liquid ebony' to remove the swirl marks. randy Article: 317996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1120135350.317086.66600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0G_we.15411$eM6.2491@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:37:14 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:0G_we.15411$eM6.2491@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Thank you for the numbers. > You're welcome. Sounds like you've made good progress. I hope it all ends well! jim menning Article: 317997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv From: Larry W4CSC Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:36:35 -0400 Go on over and download the two Captain Kangaroo shows for your grandchildren to watch.... The pilot shows for Outer Limits and Robin Hood are also just posted. I'm watching Bob Hope's Frigidaire Hour as I type this.... Fantastic stuff.... Life of Riley, 1949, starring JACKIE GLEASON is also on there...not William Bendix who came later.... I'm watching very closely for The Honeymooners to show up. -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 317998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: What Every Fashionable Collector Is Wearing This Summer Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 00:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <9190-42C37DE7-152@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> In <9190-42C37DE7-152@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >I have one . its bright orange That's the same color as the one my friend has. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 317999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: FA: National Radio Industries Signal Tracer RARE closing up shop Message-ID: <_q0xe.26579$go.16814@fed1read05> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:50:03 -0400 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net... > > > Rare? I guess that you've never been to a hamfest then. I've seen > several of these, and their other models over the years. > > -- > Former professional electron wrangler. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Models with tuned TRF detector inputs seem to be a bit unusual. I'd give it a medium rare... :) Closest thing I have is my Hickok Indicating Traceometer. Pete Article: 318000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: poor man's Catalin radio Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:12:41 -0600 Message-ID: References: <3QRwe.4593$Dv3.3894@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <42c41198$0$795$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:IrCdnYn-DNtmE1nfRVn-jA@bright.net... > >> Do you mean alternating layers of (slightly?) different color? > > Yes, and it looks like only two colors unevenly applied in some places. > That's why I think he may have used clear. Once he had the color effect > that was OK to him. further rubbing and buffing might have affected the > look. personally i think that look is just a trick of the lighting and how it photographed.... randy Article: 318001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:29:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message news:Xns9685D1E167921w4csc@63.223.7.253... > Go on over and download the two Captain Kangaroo shows for your > grandchildren to watch.... > > The pilot shows for Outer Limits and Robin Hood are also just posted. > > I'm watching Bob Hope's Frigidaire Hour as I type this.... > > Fantastic stuff.... > > Life of Riley, 1949, starring JACKIE GLEASON is also on there...not William > Bendix who came later.... I'm watching very closely for The Honeymooners > to show up. My ISP finally shut down all access to binary newsgroups.. :( Article: 318002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What Every Fashionable Collector Is Wearing This Summer Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:43:15 -0600 Message-ID: <17233-42C4ADC3-80@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Then can i be your friend too :-) Article: 318003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eugene Rippen" Subject: Need telechron 24 hour clock or movement, or motor Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:54:56 -0700 Message-ID: <42c4b178$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net> so, then I opened the lid of my Hammarlund HQ-180, and reached behind the 24 hour Telechron clock to set it. I did not see (probably, because I did not look) that the terminal strip with the 2 terminals had fried, and broken loose. I stuck my finger between the strip and the field, and broke both wires loose from the field. It looks like some of the wire from the top (outside) of the winding remains. but I don't seen any lead from the bottom. The condition of all of the rest of the clock, gears, switch, scale and cover are very good. I now have the coil/laminations/gear-case in my hand. I do not see an easy way to take this any further apart. Do they still make these? Does anyone have one to sell? Or, a complete clock? Seems like someone makes battery operated replacement clocks. Any comments about these? Where, who, how much? It was a very, very nice 180, until I did this. Gene, WB6SZS ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 318004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42C4B3FC.F668EE32@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FA: National Radio Industries Signal Tracer RARE closing up shop References: <42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net> <_q0xe.26579$go.16814@fed1read05> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 03:10:09 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net... > > > > > Rare? I guess that you've never been to a hamfest then. I've seen > > several of these, and their other models over the years. > > > > -- > > Former professional electron wrangler. > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > Models with tuned TRF detector inputs seem to be a bit unusual. > I'd give it a medium rare... :) > > Closest thing I have is my Hickok Indicating Traceometer. > > Pete I'll just use my HP 312. ;-) -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 318005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: Subject: Re: Lamp Socket for Hickok Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 03:36:10 GMT Socket acquired...Thanks, John! Den "Dennis Daly" wrote in message news:iICwe.66633$g5.26511@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > For the type 81 line fuse lamp in a model 800A. > BA-15s base, rated @ 125V, 75W. Two opposed radial lugs for wiring. > Fits models 600A, 800A and others. Maybe even the 532/533/534 and "A" > series? Not sure. > With about a 1 1/2" long mounting bracket with elongated slot along center > line > Bracket is electrically isolated from shell. A must. > So- Anyone with a junker Hickok panel (or anything else that uses this > same type/ style of socket) -wish to sell me one? > I'm offering $10 for a good one. > > Thanks, > Den > > Article: 318006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: What am I doing wrong ??? Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:53:39 -0600 Message-ID: Just bought a new computer to replace the one that got fried in the lightning hit a couple weeks ago. Luckily I always save my important stuff on CD's, so I reinstalled my copy of the Beitman's Manuals that Scott Harvey so graciously gave to all of us. No problem there...they installed great. I reinstalled the DjVu plugin and went to look at them. They won't open up reading them directly from the hard drive, but I can open them just fine >from the disc. I tried everything I can think of, but it's a no go...unless I use the disc to view them. What did I do wrong ??? Ben Article: 318007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Need telechron 24 hour clock or movement, or motor References: <42c4b178$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 04:16:56 GMT Eugene Rippen wrote: > so, then I opened the lid of my Hammarlund HQ-180, and reached behind the 24 > hour Telechron clock to set it. > > > The condition of all of the rest of the clock, gears, switch, scale and > cover are very good. That's the area where the 24 hours function happens. > > I now have the coil/laminations/gear-case in my hand. > I do not see an easy way to take this any further apart. > Do they still make these? > Does anyone have one to sell? Or, a complete clock? The gear case "rotor" should slip easily out from the laminations. All you need really do is find another coil/laminations unit, from another Telechron clock. Be aware that these came in a number of different sizes so you may need to buy a few old clocks before you find the right size. This part doesn't know or care that the clock hands mark off 24 hours vs 12 hours. The coil uses really fine wire internally. Look closely to see if you can find both ends of the coil that used to feed the terminals. Article: 318008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 04:19:04 GMT > Tell the credit card company to dispute the charge for the first > player. In effect it would be a 6th player, which you never (will not) > receive. Or just ask the seller to send a refund for the excess money, or a 6th player. Article: 318009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: What Every Fashionable Collector Is Wearing This Summer Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 05:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <17233-42C4ADC3-80@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> In <17233-42C4ADC3-80@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >Then can i be your friend too :-) You're not? Ya can't wear the hat, though. That's a no-no. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 318010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42C4E574.B71D8A5A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv References: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 06:41:17 GMT Phil B wrote: > > Here's the text from the Comcast email: > > Dear Comcast Newsgroup Customer, > > As you may already know, Comcast has recently upgraded our Newsgroup > service offering. Now you get a total of two gigabytes of downloads each > month (previously one gigabyte) and headers are not counted towards your > download totals.... Earthlink gives you a 5 GB limit before you are capped to a lower speed, and you get eight accounts with their standard service, so that can be 40 GB before you hit the wall. You also get eight, 100 MB mail boxes, and eight 10 MB websites. On top of that, I now have a 5 Mbps download speed. I downloaded three large PDF files from a fast server, and all three were a little over 1.5 Mbps for the entire download. That's like having a little over three T-1 circuits to your computer or home network. -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 318011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <42c4b178$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net> Subject: Re: Need telechron 24 hour clock or movement, or motor Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:17:27 GMT Same comments apply to GE clocks-they are Telechrons inside. -- Mike Schultz "robert casey" wrote in message news:Ys3xe.1810$aY6.1728@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Eugene Rippen wrote: > >> so, then I opened the lid of my Hammarlund HQ-180, and reached behind the >> 24 hour Telechron clock to set it. >> > >> >> The condition of all of the rest of the clock, gears, switch, scale and >> cover are very good. > > That's the area where the 24 hours function happens. >> >> I now have the coil/laminations/gear-case in my hand. >> I do not see an easy way to take this any further apart. >> Do they still make these? >> Does anyone have one to sell? Or, a complete clock? > > The gear case "rotor" should slip easily out from the > laminations. All you need really do is find another > coil/laminations unit, from another Telechron clock. > Be aware that these came in a number of different sizes > so you may need to buy a few old clocks before you find > the right size. This part doesn't know or care that the > clock hands mark off 24 hours vs 12 hours. > > The coil uses really fine wire internally. Look closely > to see if you can find both ends of the coil that used to > feed the terminals. Article: 318012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: <42c4b178$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net> Subject: Re: Need telechron 24 hour clock or movement, or motor Message-ID: <%39xe.1615$S17.293423@monger.newsread.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:39:55 GMT A nearby secondhand/antiques shop has one of them marked, "Warren Telechron..." with no glass that might date to the thirties. "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:XK8xe.29494$cz6.21885@trndny07... | Same comments apply to GE clocks-they are Telechrons inside. | | -- | Mike Schultz | | | "robert casey" wrote in message | news:Ys3xe.1810$aY6.1728@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... | > Eugene Rippen wrote: | > | >> so, then I opened the lid of my Hammarlund HQ-180, and reached behind the | >> 24 hour Telechron clock to set it. | >> | > | >> | >> The condition of all of the rest of the clock, gears, switch, scale and | >> cover are very good. | > | > That's the area where the 24 hours function happens. | >> | >> I now have the coil/laminations/gear-case in my hand. | >> I do not see an easy way to take this any further apart. | >> Do they still make these? | >> Does anyone have one to sell? Or, a complete clock? | > | > The gear case "rotor" should slip easily out from the | > laminations. All you need really do is find another | > coil/laminations unit, from another Telechron clock. | > Be aware that these came in a number of different sizes | > so you may need to buy a few old clocks before you find | > the right size. This part doesn't know or care that the | > clock hands mark off 24 hours vs 12 hours. | > | > The coil uses really fine wire internally. Look closely | > to see if you can find both ends of the coil that used to | > feed the terminals. | | Article: 318013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: <42C4E574.B71D8A5A@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 10:42:28 GMT And I'm still waiting to hear back from you about donating my large collection of cards to your project... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:42C4E574.B71D8A5A@earthlink.net... | Phil B wrote: | > | > Here's the text from the Comcast email: | > | > Dear Comcast Newsgroup Customer, | > | > As you may already know, Comcast has recently upgraded our Newsgroup | > service offering. Now you get a total of two gigabytes of downloads each | > month (previously one gigabyte) and headers are not counted towards your | > download totals.... | | | Earthlink gives you a 5 GB limit before you are capped to a lower | speed, and you get eight accounts with their standard service, so that | can be 40 GB before you hit the wall. | | You also get eight, 100 MB mail boxes, and eight 10 MB websites. | | On top of that, I now have a 5 Mbps download speed. I downloaded | three large PDF files from a fast server, and all three were a little | over 1.5 Mbps for the entire download. That's like having a little over | three T-1 circuits to your computer or home network. | | -- | Former professional electron wrangler. | | Michael A. Terrell | Central Florida Article: 318014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong ??? Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:50:58 -0600 Message-ID: <17232-42C56662-374@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: What am I doing wrong ??? You bought a computer :-) Article: 318015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What Every Fashionable Collector Is Wearing This Summer Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:52:52 -0600 Message-ID: <17234-42C566D4-25@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Never tried it on ... its sitting in the closet with its toods sticking out Article: 318016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong ??? Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:25:57 -0600 Message-ID: References: <17232-42C56662-374@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> LOL...best answer yet !! "Ken G." wrote in message news:17232-42C56662-374@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > What am I doing wrong ??? > > > You bought a computer :-) > Article: 318017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: m_bunis@conknet.com (Marty Bunis) Subject: VINTAGE RADIO SHOW AND SALE, NASHUA, NH Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:35:28 GMT Message-ID: <42c57005_1@newspeer2.tds.net> The New England Antique Radio Club will hold its Summer Radio Swap Meet Saturday July 16, 2005 at Saint Stan’s Hall, Pine Hill Road, Nashua, NH. Participating will be club members from throughout New England, New York and New Jersey with over 100 tables of antique and collectible radios, TVs, parts, books, magazines, advertising and other related items for sale. Special events of the day will include three radio contests featuring console radios, Arvin radios, and tape recorders. The public is invited to attend and enjoy a day of radio fun and nostalgia. Show hours are 7am to 12 noon. Admission during exhibitor set-up from 7am -8am is $15; early admission from 8am-9am is $5 and general admission after 9am is $2. To reach St. Stan’s Hall take Rt. 3 (Everett Turnpike) to exit 6 (Route 130 East). Follow Route 130 East for a short distance to the set of lights at the 7-11 store. Take a left at the lights onto Blue Hill Avenue. This road crosses the overpass and becomes Pine Hill Road. St. Stan’s Hall will be on your right. Watch for the NEARC signs. For more information about the meet, contact meet chairman Marty Bunis by phone (603) 938-5051 or email (m_bunis@conknet.com). Visit the NEARC website at www.nearc.net Article: 318018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: <1120189959.247512.62910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Realistic Patrolman 10 Radio Message-ID: <1120237009.451f81b41d4b7e20722b10e6a5de2426@teranews> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:56:20 -0400 Try RS at: http://www.radioshack.com/prodsupport/productsupport.asp "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message news:1120189959.247512.62910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I recently got an older Realistic radio sold by Radio Shack. > > It is the Realistic Patrolman 10. > > A few questions for you... > > Who made this radio for Radio Shack? > > Are there any documents available for it? > > Could someone tell me anything they might know about it? > > The radio seems to operate and I wish to learn what I can about it so I > can use it properly. > > Thanks in advance. > > TMT > Article: 318019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong ??? Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:06:34 -0600 Message-ID: References: 'normally' when this happens, the files are simply marked as read only as a side effect of being copied to the cd (which is normally read only, im not going to get into cdrw media...). this shouldnt stop you from reading them. if you have some other information about them being 'locked'. pls explain the unlock procedure. randy "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:bhk9c1dm85igg0ijm8muk6q0aetfdsc1om@4ax.com... > Check the properties of the files on your hard disc and compare them > to the properties of the files on disc. They may be locked. Sometimes > when you copy from a CD to another disc, they are protected. > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:53:39 -0600, "Benjamaniac" > wrote: > >>Just bought a new computer to replace the one that got fried in the >>lightning hit a couple weeks ago. Luckily I always save my important stuff >>on CD's, so I reinstalled my copy of the Beitman's Manuals that Scott >>Harvey >>so graciously gave to all of us. No problem there...they installed great. >>I >>reinstalled the DjVu plugin and went to look at them. They won't open up >>reading them directly from the hard drive, but I can open them just fine >>from the disc. I tried everything I can think of, but it's a no >>go...unless >>I use the disc to view them. What did I do wrong ??? >> Ben >> > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 318020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Adam Smith" Subject: Joyce Grenfell & Norman Wisdom Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Hope this isn't an intrusion, but my divorce forces me to sell a treasured possesion. It's an original cartoon by Joyce Grenfell dedicated with love to Norman Wisdom. It's on ebay 6541737622 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6541737622 I thought that if I posted this information on a news group there may be a greater chance of it ending up in a collection rather than with a dealer. Anyway, it's on ebay and I've also been in touch with the National Film Archive and they are putting a copy on their website. Best of luck if you bid Adam Smith Article: 318021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Faux Catalin References: <_5OdnWNyF_IbwljfRVn-1A@bright.net> <1120236245.643452.240970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:24:59 -0400 (snip)Bakelite was mixed as a very uniform powder and cured under great pressure and heat Was powder the only way? I remember seeing small bakelite blocks being dumped into a mold for pressure molding. Ken Peter Wieck wrote: > Stewart: > > A couple of questions, as your technique seems reasonable except for > the intended substrate. My limited knowledge of tempera, pigmenting and > even guache is that it is excellent for absorbent surfaces, those that > absorb either water or oil-based substances. These include (of course), > canvas, board, stone, plaster (fresco) and any of several other > surfaces. I have also seen tempera paintings on glass, although those > tend to be unstable and in many cases unsuccessful as soon as the > binder dries, and even when stable, only because a varnish or other > coating is applied afterwards. > > So, how well do you think this material would bind to a plastic base, > or would you confine it to a wooden radio? > > Do you think that some of the "tacky" type primers might solve the > adherance issue? What comes to mind is the "Bad" Kilz with the > carcinogenic solvents, nasty stuff, but it really does stick to about > anything, and prepares the surface nicely (again) for paint. > > Also, "artists' oils" tend to take a great deal of time to dry as the > vehicle for the pigments is designed to be workable for a very long > time. In fact the term "pentimento" refers to the traces of old(er) > paint beneath the finished painting above. Are there accelerants to > speed the drying of such paints? When I came up through college, my > painting professor stated that the varnish applied over oils is what > rendered the surface safe to the touch, and that without it, the oils > below would be tacky for a very long time, possibly even years with > some materials under some conditions. > > Sounds like a fascinating technique... I just wonder about the > application to an object that is both non-absorbent and often handled. > I am guessing also with a smooth-surfaced plastic, even the very small > dry thickness of the swirl-over-base would create a texture, requiring > additional clear-coats. Hmmm.... with those clear coats (even slightly > pigmented), one could get that 'fuzzyness' often found in the old > swirly/marble patterns. > > One other thing that comes to mind as a global observation: Catalin > when originally made did not typically show a swirl pattern (But Tenite > and some Bakelites did). However the different nature of catalin and > the difference in the curing process from the other two plastics would > have the "mix pattern" within it... catalin was cured from the git-go > as a liquid made in relatively small lots and with the dyes and > pigments added directly before curing. So the natural aging process > would expose any variations in the mix... swirl patterns. Tenite was > typically injection-molded and Bakelite was mixed as a very uniform > powder and cured under great pressure and heat. Patterns could be > introduced, but they would be deliberate, not accidental or as > artifacts of the manufacturing process. > > Thoughts? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 318022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Adam Smith" Subject: Re: Joyce Grenfell & Norman Wisdom Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 18:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1120241120.504816.282290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> OOOOOOOOOps, sorry to have caused offence, but I thought that maybe someone on your group would apreciate the work of someone who's output was originally heard on the kind of equipment that you collect. Again, sorry to have caused offence Adam "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1120241120.504816.282290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Yes, it is an intrusion, off topic and unwelcome. And from the > activity, you don't need a bunch of tightwad vintage equipment > collectors bidding either. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 318023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: bulk tube pricing need advice fast pls Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:16:10 -0600 Message-ID: References: <_love.8213$go.496@fed1read05> <6qJve.7247$gr.2195@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1120245888.355659.327040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> thats twice the word 'sealed' has come up. from what i can tell none of the boxes i have has ever been 'sealed'. to me 'sealed' means some sort of tape or something holding the box closed. maybe you guys have another definition...? randy "twomuttheads" wrote in message news:1120245888.355659.327040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've usually done well on bulk tube buys. One time, however, EVERY tube > was a dud. Some old geezer kept every used tube including duds, that he > ever replaced. Unless the box is obviously sealed, I make sure at least > some of them match brand/type. Unopened boxes can still have a few > duds, but it won't be the seller's fault. (unless he dropped them!) > Article: 318024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong ??? Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <17232-42C56662-374@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> In <17232-42C56662-374@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >What am I doing wrong ??? >You bought a computer :-) No, he didn't. He bought a pee-cee. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 318025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <_love.8213$go.496@fed1read05> <6qJve.7247$gr.2195@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1120245888.355659.327040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: bulk tube pricing need advice fast pls Message-ID: <1120251063.e291f98b79c10a01fd239a3dc0d0f76a@teranews> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:49:51 -0500 "xrongor" wrote in message news:da487c$4fs6$1@news3.infoave.net... > thats twice the word 'sealed' has come up. from what i can tell none of the > boxes i have has ever been 'sealed'. > > to me 'sealed' means some sort of tape or something holding the box closed. > maybe you guys have another definition...? Older tube boxes were stapled or glued shut, or had the tube inside an inner sleeve that was stapled or glued shut. These were the ones that had a hole in the bottom so you could test the tube without opening the packaging. Article: 318026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: bulk tube pricing need advice fast pls Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 15:50:19 -0600 Message-ID: References: <_love.8213$go.496@fed1read05> <6qJve.7247$gr.2195@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1120245888.355659.327040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120251063.e291f98b79c10a01fd239a3dc0d0f76a@teranews> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:1120251063.e291f98b79c10a01fd239a3dc0d0f76a@teranews... > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:da487c$4fs6$1@news3.infoave.net... >> thats twice the word 'sealed' has come up. from what i can tell none of > the >> boxes i have has ever been 'sealed'. >> >> to me 'sealed' means some sort of tape or something holding the box > closed. >> maybe you guys have another definition...? > > Older tube boxes were stapled or glued shut, or had the tube inside an > inner > sleeve that was stapled or glued shut. These were the ones that had a hole > in the bottom so you could test the tube without opening the packaging. yeah i just dont see any evidence of such things on the sylvania and the philco ones. staple holes, glue spots, tape, nothing like that. just looks like a box with a tuck tab on it. there are some rca's that are glued.. so far all the tubes ive tested but one which was obviously used (put in a box and hand written on the side) have worked fine, so thats encouraging randy Article: 318027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <_love.8213$go.496@fed1read05> <6qJve.7247$gr.2195@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1120245888.355659.327040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120251063.e291f98b79c10a01fd239a3dc0d0f76a@teranews> Subject: Re: bulk tube pricing need advice fast pls Message-ID: <1120264441.b51a76b314011848a09c4ff9b1faa127@teranews> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:33:56 -0500 "xrongor" wrote in message news:da4dnt$4i9r$1@news3.infoave.net... > yeah i just dont see any evidence of such things on the sylvania and the > philco ones. staple holes, glue spots, tape, nothing like that. just looks > like a box with a tuck tab on it. there are some rca's that are glued.. > > so far all the tubes ive tested but one which was obviously used (put in a > box and hand written on the side) have worked fine, so thats encouraging That is encouraging. In lieu of being "sealed", boxes with tuck tabs will show wear on the tabs after being opened just once or twice, because they fit so tightly. If the box is relatively hard to open, it's probably never been opened before and the contents NOS. If the tab is loose and worn and the box won't stay shut, it's been opened before. Hard to see in an eBay picture though. Article: 318028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <3QRwe.4593$Dv3.3894@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <42c41198$0$795$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <0eGdnT_ZBM8yOFnfRVn-tw@sigecom.net> Subject: Re: poor man's Catalin radio Message-ID: <6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:41:38 GMT Notice -- the last photo, of the back, it looks as though this photo was taken before he did the "catalin" treatment. Does that look like Bakelite painted white? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:xbqdnQNkcvXaLlnfRVn-1Q@bright.net... > Bruce Mercer wrote: >> "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message >> news:IrCdnYn-DNtmE1nfRVn-jA@bright.net... >> >>>>Do you mean alternating layers of (slightly?) different color? >>> >>>Yes, and it looks like only two colors unevenly applied in some places. >>>That's why I think he may have used clear. Once he had the color effect >>>that was OK to him. further rubbing and buffing might have affected the >>>look. >>> >>>Stewart >> >> You might be right. >> If you look closely at the bottom of the speaker you can see remnants of >> white rubbing compound. >> Looks like two colors and a heavy clear top coat of something. That >> polyester finish is a heavy finish and has a feel >> similar to catalin. >> >> Bruce > Bruce, > > Randy may be right about the lighting, and I agree with him that for > painting plastic or bakelite radios a clear topcoat isn't needed. Good > paint and good rubbing out will do a great job. > > Unless the guy posts and tells us how he did it we are left to our best > guesses. I've been thinking about how I would try to fake a catalin. I'll > start a new thread after I give it some more thought. > > Stewart Article: 318029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <3QRwe.4593$Dv3.3894@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <42c41198$0$795$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <0eGdnT_ZBM8yOFnfRVn-tw@sigecom.net> <6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: poor man's Catalin radio Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 00:43:06 GMT I noticed also, it's got the wrong back cover. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Notice -- the last photo, of the back, it looks as though this photo was > taken before he did the "catalin" treatment. Does that look like Bakelite > painted white? > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > news:xbqdnQNkcvXaLlnfRVn-1Q@bright.net... >> Bruce Mercer wrote: >>> "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message >>> news:IrCdnYn-DNtmE1nfRVn-jA@bright.net... >>> >>>>>Do you mean alternating layers of (slightly?) different color? >>>> >>>>Yes, and it looks like only two colors unevenly applied in some places. >>>>That's why I think he may have used clear. Once he had the color effect >>>>that was OK to him. further rubbing and buffing might have affected the >>>>look. >>>> >>>>Stewart >>> >>> You might be right. >>> If you look closely at the bottom of the speaker you can see remnants of >>> white rubbing compound. >>> Looks like two colors and a heavy clear top coat of something. That >>> polyester finish is a heavy finish and has a feel >>> similar to catalin. >>> >>> Bruce >> Bruce, >> >> Randy may be right about the lighting, and I agree with him that for >> painting plastic or bakelite radios a clear topcoat isn't needed. Good >> paint and good rubbing out will do a great job. >> >> Unless the guy posts and tells us how he did it we are left to our best >> guesses. I've been thinking about how I would try to fake a catalin. I'll >> start a new thread after I give it some more thought. >> >> Stewart > > Article: 318030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <28902-42BF4D37-379@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> <42C13A75.8E5CEBA5@hotmail.com> <7mdwe.111508$xm3.101102@attbi_s21> Subject: Re: Arrrrggg !!! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:52:21 -0400 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:zOnwe.113203$xm3.109368@attbi_s21... > In > that is exactly what your ground system and all the protective > devices are doing ... keeping the lightning strike... or power > surge... everything thats metal ... in and around your house > is all kept at the same potential... then there isn't any > damage to anything ... now if there is some large metal gadget > that is NOT fastened to all this stuff with either direct > grounding or devices... then it could get zapped... > > puter down by the supply after a bit... > > John k9uwa > > Ahhh.. And that is the crux of the situation--keeping everything at the same potential relative to EACH other, and not necessarily ground. In theory, you could protect equipment at a remote mountain top site by using a common protection point for all of the arrestors for the power, antenna, and phone lines, with a relatively poor ground, and still provide total protection for the equipment (not necessarily the occupants...) While the equipment might become elevated during a strike relative to ground, the potential between the power, antenna and phone lines--and thus through the equipment-- will be minimized. The worst thing most hams do is providing a ground bar behind the gear for the soles means of protection--that only insures that ALL surge voltages on the antenna or power lines are forced through the equip- ment, maximizing damage. My main grounds are at the tower, and again at the house where a second array of ground rods are installed, along with arrestors for the antenna coaxes, and gas arrestor blocks for the rotator and control cables. Everything is bonded together, including buried chemical rods. I also have a secondary common grounding point at the station for a second set of arrestors for the power and antenna lines, and this is strictly to reduce any induced voltages that may develop after the first line of defense. Pete Article: 318031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: circuit needed Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 10:14:49 +0900 Message-ID: References: "cowboy" wrote in message news:tt-dnUbeWPpqfljfRVn-hA@comcast.com... > I need a little circuit to adapt an ordinary telephone to play computer wav > files over the line. > > So for example, if I was talking to my friend on a conventional telephone, > while sitting at the computer, and I told him a joke, I could click a wav > file of Curly of the three stooges, and we would instantly both hear it in > our telephone conversation, just as if Curly was one the line with us. Or > we could have a song playing on the line within our conversation. > > where could I buy this device? > > or is there a circuit diagram I could build? > > assume a standard conventional corded telephone in the USA, and a typical > Windows XP computer with a typical sound card. Also, how would this work > with a typical cordless telephone? All you really need is a 600 ohm to 600 ohm isolation transformer between your sound card and the phone line. Have a switch on the phone line side to switch it in and out of the circuit (after the call is in progress), and maybe a capacitor on one side of the telephone line side to block DC through the transformer coils. Article: 318032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Realistic Patrolman 10 Radio References: <1120189959.247512.62910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120237009.451f81b41d4b7e20722b10e6a5de2426@teranews> <1120248769.076308.11380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:18:06 GMT There was an article a while back in Antique Radio Classified about the Realistic Patrolman series radios. Even though I don't agree that this stuff should be considered "antique". You might try contacting them and see if you can buy a copy of that issue. OR, maybe someone on here will make a copy of it for you. Ron Article: 318033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: FA: National Radio Industries Signal Tracer RARE closing up References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:18:08 GMT I have one of these, it's a nice little unit and looks good too. If someone needs the manual let me know. Jim Murphy wrote: > Sorry to bother the group with an auction but I think this is a very unusual > piece of test equipment and so wanted to pass on to everyone so that an > interested party would not miss it. > > Item # 7527329177 > > URL: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7527329177&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT > > After many years of collecting and restoring old tube radios I am cleaning > out the shop. This is the first of a number of items of test equipment, > parts and radios to be auctioned. > > If you are interested in some of these things do a search on my eBay user > name which is SOUNDCON > > Thanks, Jim Murphy > > Article: 318034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <3QRwe.4593$Dv3.3894@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <42c41198$0$795$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <0eGdnT_ZBM8yOFnfRVn-tw@sigecom.net> <6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: poor man's Catalin radio Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:25:03 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Notice -- the last photo, of the back, it looks as though this photo > was taken before he did the "catalin" treatment. Does that look > like Bakelite painted white? There is color showing at the edges, I think this is an "after" shot. jim menning Article: 318035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <3QRwe.4593$Dv3.3894@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <42c41198$0$795$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <0eGdnT_ZBM8yOFnfRVn-tw@sigecom.net> <6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: poor man's Catalin radio Message-ID: <93mxe.6049$Dv3.4777@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:26:29 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:uqlxe.2182$aY6.1492@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... >I noticed also, it's got the wrong back cover. > > Looks like the right back cover, you are just probably tricked by the fact that it's tilted open at an angle which makes it look too short. jim menning Article: 318036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: circuit needed Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 01:30:25 GMT For many years, Comrex has made a telephone coupler for the purpose of sending audio through a phone line. These have been used for years for remote broadcasts of radio stations. Years ago I personally used one to broadcast a church service over a local radio station -- just connect one to the sound system, the other to the radio mixing board, make the phone call, and you're set. The biggest problem with this was the limited fidelity -- with an equalizer to smooth things out, I was able to get around 50 to 3500 Hz flat, and with lower volume, up to about 3900 Hz. Believe it or not, with equalization and some filtering it didn't sound half bad on an FM station. It might barely be noticeable on AM. Of course they made other, more expensive phone patches, that MPX'd the audio such that you could pass a higher fidelity. Now I can't help but think you could do a laptop at each end and get CD quality using DSL. Anyway, it seems the Comrex unit was little more than an audio transformer and a switch -- maybe $5 worth of parts put together to sell for $150. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "cowboy" wrote in message news:tt-dnUbeWPpqfljfRVn-hA@comcast.com... >I need a little circuit to adapt an ordinary telephone to play computer wav > files over the line. > > So for example, if I was talking to my friend on a conventional telephone, > while sitting at the computer, and I told him a joke, I could click a wav > file of Curly of the three stooges, and we would instantly both hear it in > our telephone conversation, just as if Curly was one the line with us. > Or > we could have a song playing on the line within our conversation. > > where could I buy this device? > > or is there a circuit diagram I could build? > > assume a standard conventional corded telephone in the USA, and a typical > Windows XP computer with a typical sound card. Also, how would this work > with a typical cordless telephone? > > > thanks! > > cowboy > > > Article: 318037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: poor man's Catalin radio Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:57:21 -0600 Message-ID: References: <3QRwe.4593$Dv3.3894@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <42c41198$0$795$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <0eGdnT_ZBM8yOFnfRVn-tw@sigecom.net> <6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> "jim menning" wrote in message news:P1mxe.6048$Dv3.2627@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:6plxe.2181$aY6.178@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> Notice -- the last photo, of the back, it looks as though this photo was >> taken before he did the "catalin" treatment. Does that look like >> Bakelite painted white? > > There is color showing at the edges, I think this is an "after" shot. i noticed it the first time i saw it. every time i felt sure it was one way or the other i would see something that would change my mind. even after looking at it again im still not sure if forced to guess, i too think its an after shot. randy Article: 318038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Canada Day in Calgary. From: "Haggis" telus.net> Message-ID: <0Bmxe.110856$tt5.20066@edtnps90> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 02:02:36 GMT Today is Canada day. OK, we get our "4th." a little early, but then we can always run down to Montana and get two parties :-) I've posted a couple pictures to the binaries of the radios etc. on display. Cheers! Haggis. Article: 318039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: beerbarrel Subject: Re: FA: National Radio Industries Signal Tracer RARE closing up shop Message-ID: <631cc1pvs2u1u3j2a7dbe6ivlsus67k76r@4ax.com> References: <42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net> <_q0xe.26579$go.16814@fed1read05> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 23:06:07 -0400 On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:50:03 -0400, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message >news:42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net... >> > >> Rare? I guess that you've never been to a hamfest then. I've seen >> several of these, and their other models over the years. >> >> -- >> Former professional electron wrangler. >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > > >Models with tuned TRF detector inputs seem to be a bit unusual. >I'd give it a medium rare... :) > >Closest thing I have is my Hickok Indicating Traceometer. > >Pete > You guys are making me hungry. I don't know if I can wait on that 4th of July steak. Tracy Article: 318040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:13:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1120227153.919560.17660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> frenchy wrote: > How many of the shows out there still have the original commercials in > them? Or are these just copied of commercially available dvds etc? > thanks > I was just in that group poking around, And I saw a couple of episodes of "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." and "The Fugitive" posted. Those are obviously ripped from commercial DVDs and have the original commercials excised. The shows there of primary interest to us (from the early days of televsion) are taken from VHS tapes that were converted from kinescope. Back in the day, these shows were usually sponsored by a single entity that normally got frequent plugs throughout the program, so it is usually essential that the commercials be left in to preserve program continuity. The OP mentioned the Frigidaire (colgate) comedy hour; that show almost certainly has the orginal commercials. I used to see these kinds of tapes fairly frequently in video store bargain bins (especially during Xmas when they would be sold as stocking stuffers), but most of those places have gone totally to DVD now so the vintage-show VHS tapes have pretty much dried up. I'm glad that people are posting these now, as they are a great complement to the OTR shows that have been available on usenet for some time. -Scott Article: 318041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Dead channel in Fisher 800B receiver Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:22:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: Phil Nelson wrote: > Bingo! It was an open plate resistor as Jon suggested, on one of the tone > control amplifiers. I somehow missed it when doing initial voltage checks > ("Let's see, which side is left again?"), but it popped out when I traced a > signal through the receiver with the oscilloscope. Good practice for me, > since I'm an o'scope wimp. > > Thanks, guys. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > You coulda done the same thing with an audio generator and a signal tracer, but it wouldn't have been nearly as fun...... -Scott Article: 318042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Need telechron 24 hour clock or movement, or motor Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:52:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <42c4b178$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net> Eugene Rippen wrote: > so, then I opened the lid of my Hammarlund HQ-180, and reached behind the 24 > hour Telechron clock to set it. > > I did not see (probably, because I did not look) that the terminal strip > with the 2 terminals had fried, and broken loose. I stuck my finger between > the strip and the field, and broke both wires loose from the field. It > looks like some of the wire from the top (outside) of the winding remains. > but I don't seen any lead from the bottom. > > The condition of all of the rest of the clock, gears, switch, scale and > cover are very good. > > I now have the coil/laminations/gear-case in my hand. > I do not see an easy way to take this any further apart. > Do they still make these? > Does anyone have one to sell? Or, a complete clock? > Seems like someone makes battery operated replacement clocks. Any comments > about these? Where, who, how much? > > It was a very, very nice 180, until I did this. > > Gene, WB6SZS > > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Look around for a 1960s-era small, squarish GE electric alarm clock, the kind that has the buzzer alarm that is activated by pulling out a circular shaped lever in the back. These were sold by the millions so it shouldn't be too hard to find one. It will have the same size laminate pile/coil assembly you need to wrap around your HQ-180's rotor assembly. I am concerned that the area around your present assembly is fried. That usually doesn't happen unless undue friction in the rotor assembly (say, >from petrified lubricant in the rotor gears), and the additional current needed to drive it, places excessive stress on the coil assembly. -Scott Article: 318043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Philco Safari TV Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:13:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1M1we.4508$hV5.717@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > Let me know when you're done, you can give me some tips. I have a ratty > Safari waiting in line for attention. Nice bright raster, no signal (how > hard could it be, he said laughingly :-) > > Phil Nelson Mine works fine....One of my better $12.00 purchases. Now, if only I can find a brightness knob and a clip to hold the carrying handle, I'll be in heaven. I'll bet when you do tear in to yours that a re-cap will probably fix it. I don't even know what mine looks like inside, but I'll bet it's packed in there! BTW, this is one of the more practical portable TVs I have used. It will not wash out on bright sunny days, unlike most you can buy today. Considering the era and a maker that was on the skids, It is a remarkable engineering feat. -Scott Article: 318044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith 9S262 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1117709815.299687.310870@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120284743.877340.26290@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:00:53 GMT In article <1120284743.877340.26290@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, garyb@citicom.com says... > > >Great advice John and Peter, thanks again. I've run into a stumbling >block though. I seem to have a handful of .05 caps to replace in this >set. Can I sub a .047 for these even though it's lower in value? It >seems no one has .05's and the next thing I can think of is going UP in >value to a .1. I know the rule of voltage though, and that's not a >problem with the caps I have. I'm thinking of the rule to meet or >exceed the value of the caps, but isn't it critical outside of the >power supply for these? Other than that, the set's showing more signs >of life and a healthy sensitive receiver so far. Good selectivity. >I'm able to hear THE BIG ONE WLW out of Cincinatti on AM 700 at night >with WGN AM 720 out my back door. Thanks, GB. > Hi Gary .... yes 0.047 is today's standard value to replace 05's I am bringing one back to life tonite also... this one a 12A158 Zenith .... it is starting to sing just a little bit John Article: 318045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" Subject: UPDATE ON BILL TURNER Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:43:26 GMT Does anybody know how Bill is doing? Omer Article: 318046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: Philco Safari TV Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 05:10:39 -0700 Message-ID: <11cd13ln79t6e2a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1M1we.4508$hV5.717@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> > BTW, this is one of the more practical portable TVs I have used. It will > not wash out on bright sunny days, unlike most you can buy today. But's that's because it has a hood! My Sony LCD has a hood, though I've never tried it outside. From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 9 09:22:09 EDT 2005 Article: 318047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco Safari TV Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 08:23:48 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <1M1we.4508$hV5.717@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <11cd13ln79t6e2a@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-521.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:318047 Hi, I'll bet when you do tear in to yours that a re-cap will probably fix it. I don't even know what mine looks like inside, but I'll bet it's packed in there! Actrually it's not bad, and I didn't find a single bad electrolytic in mine (tested with an ESR meter). As I recall, I only had to clean a couple of pots to get mine working again. I was amazed. 73, Alan Article: 318048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv From: Larry W4CSC References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:10:54 -0400 "Brenda Ann" wrote in news:da29ou$56d$1@news2.kornet.net: > My ISP finally shut down all access to binary newsgroups.. :( > > http://www.usenetserver.com/ $15/month for six simultaneous ports, no GB limits, 24/7/365. Your ISP is trying to limit your use of bandwidth to jack up profits. Find another ISP. Whatever you do don't get cable or DSL! It'll ruin your for old dial-up crawling along on your belly in the mud.... -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv From: Larry W4CSC References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:17:22 -0400 "Phil B" wrote in news:NqKdnWGXHeRMRFnfRVn- oA@comcast.com: > In light of the recent posts about some ISPs shutting down binary > newsgroups, I was delighted when I recently got an email from Comcast > saying that the monthly transfer limit on their basic, included usenet > service (Giganews) will be INCREASED from 1 GB to 2 GB next month. Woo Woo! You can download 1.5 movies per month! I call it "denial of service". Remember when they told you service was unlimited? It was a lie. Many Comcrap customers using unlimited usenet servers have gotten threatening letters saying if they didn't stop using the bandwidth promised them, the company would shut them off. I'd like to see that tested in front of a judge, wouldn't you? > > I wonder why Comcast is doing this when others are shutting it down? I'm > not complaining! > > I'd be screaming bloody murder and cancelling service, myself. I find little other use for internet, other than email. Usenet is my favorite part of the net. It causes a storage problem where to put all these discs, however...(c; What good is 4Mbps bandwidth if the company is going to raise hell every time you want to USE it?! How absurd. Comcrap needs a little dose of organized cancellations across the country to give them a reality check. It won't happen. They depend on users being complacent, just like TV, radio, etc. Luckily I have a great choice from Comcrap. http://www.knology.net Gigabytes are measured in HOURS not months....(c; -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 22:17:49 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message news:Xns96875D972123Dw4csc@63.223.7.253... > "Brenda Ann" wrote in > news:da29ou$56d$1@news2.kornet.net: > > > My ISP finally shut down all access to binary newsgroups.. :( > > > > > > http://www.usenetserver.com/ > $15/month for six simultaneous ports, no GB limits, 24/7/365. > > Your ISP is trying to limit your use of bandwidth to jack up profits. Find > another ISP. Whatever you do don't get cable or DSL! It'll ruin your for > old dial-up crawling along on your belly in the mud.... > Nope, it's a government block (I'm in Korea) on all binaries to try to stop porn. They've done it other places before, our binaries have never been very good, only a couple dozen or so at best, and most of those were anime related. Already have both ADSL and cable internet, have had for years. :) Article: 318051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv From: Larry W4CSC References: <1120227153.919560.17660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:20:21 -0400 "frenchy" wrote in news:1120227153.919560.17660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > How many of the shows out there still have the original commercials in > them? Or are these just copied of commercially available dvds etc? > thanks > > > Many of these are from old reel2reel video tapes, including the national advertising. I just watched a little boy buy his mother a Frigidaire refridgerator for Christmas on Bob Hope. Even the commercials were tasteful and made it look like GM really cared...which they don't. Some shows have commercials, some don't, simply fading out then in where the spots go. -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: circuit needed From: Larry W4CSC References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:34:59 -0400 "Brenda Ann" wrote in news:da4ppb$ab$1@news2.kornet.net: > maybe a capacitor on one side of the telephone line side to block DC > through the transformer coils. > Gotta have a cap in series or it'll be offhook all the time..... If you'd like a nicer patch, get something like: http://www.mfjenterprises.com/products.php?prodid=MFJ-624D a ham radio phone patch. Look around any hamfest and you can find old phone patches for sale, cheap. You can also use it to record conversations >from the phone to your computer's sound card mic jack. Level meter and controls are nice to have. Plugs right in. To record, I like Total Recorder from: http://www.HighCriteria.com Total Recorder sits in between your computer and your sound card, like a proxy server. It will rip any audio from any source that uses the sound card. It also will compress them into MP3 files on-the-fly, even breaking streaming audio up into smaller files, automatically, at file limits you set. It has a scheduler, too, so you can record your favorite streaming audio or audio in source from the sound card direct to MP3 files (or wav or ogg or whatever you've got encoding codecs for) with its own clock. Even webpage audio specifically-designed to prevent recordings is no match for Total Recorder ($29 with free lifetime upgrades). -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Realistic Patrolman 10 Radio From: Larry W4CSC References: <1120189959.247512.62910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:36:01 -0400 "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in news:1120189959.247512.62910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Who made this radio for Radio Shack? > Uniden made most of RatShacks radios. -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: Philco Safari TV Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:03:19 -0700 Message-ID: <11cd7mrslpcsk64@corp.supernews.com> References: <1M1we.4508$hV5.717@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <11cd13ln79t6e2a@corp.supernews.com> > Actrually it's not bad, and I didn't find a single bad electrolytic > in mine (tested with an ESR meter). As I recall, I only had to > clean a couple of pots to get mine working again. I was amazed. Like any retro device, the Safari is the most fun when you can give demos. Does the charger power it? Have you found a substitute for the original battery? Article: 318055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPDATE ON BILL TURNER From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <7axxe.124418$nG6.76495@attbi_s22> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:04:51 GMT In article , oabukovac@earthlink.net says... > > >Does anybody know how Bill is doing? > >Omer > > > Hi Omer .... Bill is currently in a nursing home for therapy and rehab after his stroke ... supposedly if all goes well about 2 more weeks and they will be ready to let him out... He likes the place and the food is good. He is a bit upset that he can't get out in time to make it to Lansing Radio meet next week... John & Jean Article: 318056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Arrrrggg !!! References: <28902-42BF4D37-379@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 09:46:00 -0500 Bill Sheppard wrote: > Thought mebbe you were tryin' to pull a > 'Randy'.g>:-) Hey - I resemble that!!!! -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 318057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42C6ABC9.CE395243@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FA: National Radio Industries Signal Tracer RARE closing up shop References: <42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net> <_q0xe.26579$go.16814@fed1read05> <631cc1pvs2u1u3j2a7dbe6ivlsus67k76r@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:59:37 GMT beerbarrel wrote: > > You guys are making me hungry. I don't know if I can wait on that 4th > of July steak. > > Tracy Enjoy your steak. The only way I could eat one is if I ground it up first. -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 318058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: VINTAGE RADIO SHOW AND SALE, NASHUA, NH References: <42c57005_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 10:16:53 -0500 Marty Bunis wrote: > The New England Antique Radio Club will hold its Summer Radio Swap > Meet Saturday July 16, 2005 at Saint Stan’s Hall, Pine Hill Road, > Nashua, NH. Dang it. Ate lunch less than three miles from there yesterday (Panera's) - just before I flew out - headed back home to Mississippi. A day late (OK two weeks early) and a dollar short again! (Hi! Marty!) best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 318059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Subject: Re: OT: circuit needed Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:35:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 20:46:48 -0400, "cowboy" wrote: >I need a little circuit to adapt an ordinary telephone to play computer wav >files over the line. > >So for example, if I was talking to my friend on a conventional telephone, >while sitting at the computer, and I told him a joke, I could click a wav >file of Curly of the three stooges, and we would instantly both hear it in >our telephone conversation, just as if Curly was one the line with us. Or >we could have a song playing on the line within our conversation. > >where could I buy this device? > >or is there a circuit diagram I could build? > >assume a standard conventional corded telephone in the USA, and a typical >Windows XP computer with a typical sound card. Also, how would this work >with a typical cordless telephone? > > >thanks! > >cowboy > > There is a small device made with a suction cup that can be used to record phones... it can also output into a phone... if you can find one you could try it. Otherwise, you need a small line transformer to connect the computer to the MICROPHONE circuit of the phone. Go to Circuit City or wherever and get a 600 to 600 or 100 or similar LINE transformer, and connect one side to your computer speaker out, and the other one connects to the microphone in your phone. You can either CUT one wire to the mic and connect these 2 ends to the 2 wires on one side of the transformer, to put the winding in series, or get a resistor and put it in series with the transformer and connect this across the microphone. A 1 meg pot as a resistor will serve to adjust the level, you can get a resistor to equal the pot and replace it or just leave the pot. Different phones will give different results. Do you have an old 'black dial phone'? That would be perfect! Don't connect the computer direct to the phone line - ringing voltage (130vac) or a nearby lightning strike will fry your computer. Article: 318060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: beerbarrel Subject: Re: FA: National Radio Industries Signal Tracer RARE closing up shop Message-ID: References: <42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net> <_q0xe.26579$go.16814@fed1read05> <631cc1pvs2u1u3j2a7dbe6ivlsus67k76r@4ax.com> <42C6ABC9.CE395243@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:57:16 -0400 On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:59:37 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >beerbarrel wrote: >> >> You guys are making me hungry. I don't know if I can wait on that 4th >> of July steak. >> >> Tracy > > > Enjoy your steak. The only way I could eat one is if I ground it up >first. What's up with that? Btw, I had some memory sticks and a few hard drives I'm going to send you that I found in the attic... Tracy Article: 318061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <7axxe.124418$nG6.76495@attbi_s22> Subject: Re: UPDATE ON BILL TURNER Message-ID: <_IDxe.196$BK1.172@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:31:38 GMT Just a suggestion! Could somebody possibly present some of his wares over there. Not only will he then be there in spirit, it could also mean a lot for those that are trying to get their project completed and "just need that part" Omer "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:C8KdnXMcP88MRlvfRVn-vg@comcast.com... > John, be sure to tell him I will miss him at Lansing... as, I am sure, > will > many others. I will pass the info on him along there. > > Mark > > > "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > news:7axxe.124418$nG6.76495@attbi_s22... >> In article , >> oabukovac@earthlink.net says... >> > >> > >> >Does anybody know how Bill is doing? >> > >> >Omer >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Omer .... Bill is currently in a nursing home for therapy >> and rehab after his stroke ... supposedly if all goes well >> about 2 more weeks and they will be ready to let him out... >> >> He likes the place and the food is good. He is a bit upset that >> he can't get out in time to make it to Lansing Radio meet >> next week... >> >> John & Jean >> >> > > > Article: 318062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 16:37:03 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:da644r$dn5$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message > news:Xns96875D972123Dw4csc@63.223.7.253... >> "Brenda Ann" wrote in >> news:da29ou$56d$1@news2.kornet.net: >> >> > My ISP finally shut down all access to binary newsgroups.. :( >> > >> > >> >> http://www.usenetserver.com/ >> $15/month for six simultaneous ports, no GB limits, 24/7/365. >> >> Your ISP is trying to limit your use of bandwidth to jack up profits. > Find >> another ISP. Whatever you do don't get cable or DSL! It'll ruin your >> for >> old dial-up crawling along on your belly in the mud.... >> > > > Nope, it's a government block (I'm in Korea) on all binaries to try to > stop > porn. They've done it other places before, our binaries have never been > very > good, only a couple dozen or so at best, and most of those were anime > related. Already have both ADSL and cable internet, have had for years. > :) lets be honest in light of present technology. about the only thing more 'obsolete' than regular newsgroups these days is binary newsgroups... i mean come on. lets double the size of an already large binary file just to encode it in a format that only still exists for those who refuse to learn new technology. make it take twice as long to download. twice as much space to store. etc.... people always argue about poor people and third world nations not having the technology to use more modern formats. get real. if you cannot handle http or other modern type downloads, how are you going to play these files back once you downloaded them? personally im surprised ANYONE carries them still. but then again, i figured we would be done with checks by now too. or at the very least people would be getting charged more for writing them than people get charged for electronic transfers. but thats another subject.... randy Article: 318063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1120135350.317086.66600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Paypal -- big problem Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:39:29 GMT Well, it's looking very bad. I have tried and tried and tried and tried to get ahold of ANYBODY, ANYWHERE with eBay, Paypal, or the seller, to absolutely no avail. I drove down to the bank and put a stop payment on my account. They charged me a fee, asked me to sign my life away, and THEN told me they probably cannot stop it. WHAT A NIGHTMARE! ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING! No players, now I can't bid on other players, wiped out bank account, taxes due that I cannot pay thanks to this, and no business because I can't get my hands on the product -- and NOBODY will talk to me. It looks as though I'll be out of business soon. Thank you, everyone. You can all start laughing now. "Phil Witt" wrote in message news:eib8c1to61u2oiskhp0tpv4luen5v21114@4ax.com... > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:58:42 -0700, "Scott W. Harvey" > wrote: > > >>Let's assume that I had no PayPal account at all. If someone sends me a >>payment via PayPal, Paypal will accept it and then attempt to sign me >>up, rather than tell the sender that I have no account with them, as any >>other ethical financial institution would do. >> >>Once this happens, what recourse do I have to get my money that doesn't >>involve giving out a ton of personal information or jumping through a >>zillion hoops? It is simply arrogant on PayPal's part to assume that >>their service is so wonderful and indispensible everyone will be willing >>to sign up just to get paid. It is even more arrogant for them to assume >>that they are perfect, and when something goes wrong it is simply >>because you are too stupid to use their system, which is just the >>attitude that Gary confronted with his CD player purchases. >> >>There are many out there that think that PayPal is is the greatest thing >> since sliced bread. All I can say is just wait until they screw >>something up, and you have to deal with the same nonsense that Gary >>dealt with-your enthusiasm will be dampened considerably. A financial >>institution without good customer service is worse than worthless. >> >>-Scott > > Same thing happened to me a few years back. Trying to complain to > PayPal about it proved fruitless. Bidder finally ended up using > BidPay. > Article: 318064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Realistic Patrolman 10 Radio Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:59:13 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1120189959.247512.62910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message news:Xns968761D76B65Aw4csc@63.223.7.253... > "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in > news:1120189959.247512.62910@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > > > Who made this radio for Radio Shack? > > > > Uniden made most of RatShacks radios. Made most of their CB's and scanners, but IIRC, Sanyo or Hitachi made most of the portable stuff, including the Patrolman portables.. YMMV Article: 318065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "BobALoo" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 18:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1120227153.919560.17660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Which group had an episode of The Fugitive?? I looked and didn't see any episodes. Thanks. "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:da50ct01aej@news1.newsguy.com... > frenchy wrote: >> How many of the shows out there still have the original commercials in >> them? Or are these just copied of commercially available dvds etc? >> thanks >> > > > I was just in that group poking around, And I saw a couple of episodes of > "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." and "The Fugitive" posted. Those are obviously > ripped from commercial DVDs and have the original commercials excised. > > The shows there of primary interest to us (from the early days of > televsion) are taken from VHS tapes that were converted from kinescope. > Back in the day, these shows were usually sponsored by a single entity > that normally got frequent plugs throughout the program, so it is usually > essential that the commercials be left in to preserve program continuity. > The OP mentioned the Frigidaire (colgate) comedy hour; that show almost > certainly has the orginal commercials. > > I used to see these kinds of tapes fairly frequently in video store > bargain bins (especially during Xmas when they would be sold as stocking > stuffers), but most of those places have gone totally to DVD now so the > vintage-show VHS tapes have pretty much dried up. I'm glad that people are > posting these now, as they are a great complement to the OTR shows that > have been available on usenet for some time. > > -Scott > Article: 318066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42C7374A.F54340DD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FA: National Radio Industries Signal Tracer RARE closing up shop References: <42C37D36.6B264F3B@earthlink.net> <_q0xe.26579$go.16814@fed1read05> <631cc1pvs2u1u3j2a7dbe6ivlsus67k76r@4ax.com> <42C6ABC9.CE395243@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:55:26 GMT beerbarrel wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:59:37 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > wrote: > > > Enjoy your steak. The only way I could eat one is if I ground it up > >first. > > What's up with that? No upper teeth, and several damaged lower teeth. I can't chew most foods, anymore. > Btw, I had some memory sticks and a few hard drives I'm going to send > you that I found in the attic... > > Tracy Thanks. they will be put to good use. -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 318067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: <1120347700.321215.92270@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120348788.254874.270970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7NKdnSo2PeniolrfRVn-vg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: FA 10 tube tombstone S-W Message-ID: <%lHxe.1722$S17.319667@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:40:11 GMT "graham" wrote in message news:7NKdnSo2PeniolrfRVn-vg@comcast.com... > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1120348788.254874.270970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Ugly, too. > > > ... Peter, are you ill? ... that was your shortest post ever ... > I feel cheated ..... Perhaps his brevity was a sign of restraint from lamenting that somebody ought to at least slap a couple of mismatching knob on it for $225. That was inexcusable. Article: 318068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: <_uSdnb2PNMD_qlrfRVn-jA@adelphia.com> <1120353211.557124.209180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identify old radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:45:27 GMT "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:1120353211.557124.209180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > That helps, but it just narrows it down to hundreds of models instead > of thousands. :-) You can pick up any of the many radio collectors' > guides, or for free head on over to http://archives.radioattic.com and > have a look at the pictures. Maybe that will help jog your memory. Good > luck! > > paul > > Roger D Johnson wrote: > > I'm still trying to find the make /model of the radio > > my dad had when I was just a kid. It had a tuning eye > > tube so I'm wondering if there is any cross reference > > to radios that had eye tubes? Perhaps I can narrow the > > search. > > > > Thanks, Roger > > > > -- > > Remove tilde (~) to reply > > > > Remember the USS Liberty (AGTR-5) > > http://ussliberty.org/ It might not hurt to just use the search engine functions to reference them by each type of eye tube, and if you know which maybe you won't have to strain though 5200+ thumbnails in RA (although it's still a lot of fun, I'll admit but hard of bad eyesight)... From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 9 09:22:14 EDT 2005 Article: 318069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco Safari TV Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:13:05 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <1M1we.4508$hV5.717@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <11cd13ln79t6e2a@corp.supernews.com> <11cd7mrslpcsk64@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-093.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:318069 Hi, >Like any retro device, the Safari is the most fun when you can give demos. >Does the charger power it? Have you found a substitute for the original >battery? To tell the truth I haven't run it for quite a while. As I recall, I had neither the battery nor the charger, but it ran directly from 120VAC. 73, Alan Article: 318070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "michael" Subject: Healing Golden Voiced L502E scematic wanted Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:34:37 +1000 Message-ID: <42c74e76$0$20027$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> I just purchased a Healing GV L502L radio. It needs full restoration. Does anybody know where I could find the schematic or manual (for sale or download) Thanks Mike Article: 318071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "michael" Subject: Healing Golden Voiced L502E scematic wanted Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:35:43 +1000 Message-ID: <42c74e76$1$20027$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> I just purchased a Healing GV L502L radio. It needs full restoration. Does anybody know where I could find the schematic or manual (for sale or download) Thanks Mike Article: 318072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "michael" Subject: Healing Golden Voiced L502E scematic wanted Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:35:55 +1000 Message-ID: <42c74e82$0$20859$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> I just purchased a Healing GV L502L radio. It needs full restoration. Does anybody know where I could find the schematic or manual (for sale or download) Thanks Mike From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 9 09:22:15 EDT 2005 Article: 318073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Transformer E-I laminations source? Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:21:39 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <7jiec1hp014c909iv8i474gbgf6v9fic12@4ax.com> References: <1120271459.236215.285490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120349600.704114.262190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <42C73651.D68903F@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-401.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:318073 Hi, A burned-out power transformer from an early-1930s radio ought to be easily obtainable, if you specify that in the subject line. Alan Article: 318074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv From: Larry W4CSC References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:10:49 -0400 "Phil B" wrote in news:J-adnZNQa_Ti01rfRVn- qQ@comcast.com: > I just thought it was nice that Comcast was upping their "free" service. > Nothing about cable internet service is "free".....You pay big money for what you're allowed to download, especially with this GB cap crap.... -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv From: Larry W4CSC References: <1120227153.919560.17660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:11:23 -0400 "BobALoo" wrote in news:da79fq01gjc@enews3.newsguy.com: > Which group had an episode of The Fugitive?? I looked and didn't see > any episodes. > alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: circuit needed From: Larry W4CSC References: <1120323904.127326.209360@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 23:12:52 -0400 "Billy Boy (78's Rule!)" wrote in news:1120323904.127326.209360@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > 1. Use a large DC blocking capacitor (about 2 mfd.) to keep the phone > line's DC out of the coupling transformer. The large capacitance will > have very little reactance at audio frequencies, thus permitting good > audio quality. > It might also have little reactance at the ringing frequency, too. -- Larry You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and you're outlined in chalk. Article: 318077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Photo of Stewart Warner R192 round metal radio? Message-ID: <5LIxe.7777$hV5.2297@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:15:13 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:yrOdnSJYAcjkzFrfRVn-hA@giganews.com... > Someone has contacted me regarding a Stewart Warner model R192 radio > which he describes as having a "round metal case." > > Does anyone have a photo of this set, or know where to find one? I > have never seen one and have no clue whether it's cool or a > monstrosity. > The back view of the cabinet is indeed round on the nostagiaair site: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/900/M0029900.pdf jim menning Article: 318078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: circuit needed Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:23:00 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1120323904.127326.209360@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message news:Xns9687EC7FD94BEw4csc@63.223.7.253... > "Billy Boy (78's Rule!)" wrote in > news:1120323904.127326.209360@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > > > 1. Use a large DC blocking capacitor (about 2 mfd.) to keep the phone > > line's DC out of the coupling transformer. The large capacitance will > > have very little reactance at audio frequencies, thus permitting good > > audio quality. > > > > It might also have little reactance at the ringing frequency, too. > Which is why I suggest something closer to a 0.1 or 0.2 series cap. Lets a lot less of the ringer voltage through, while still keeping a fair amount of audio fidelity (sic) Article: 318079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: Subject: Re: Alternative DL schema (was alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:25:10 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:da74ue$615r$1@news3.infoave.net... > lets be honest in light of present technology. about the only thing more > 'obsolete' than regular newsgroups these days is binary newsgroups... > > i mean come on. lets double the size of an already large binary file just > to encode it in a format that only still exists for those who refuse to > learn new technology. make it take twice as long to download. twice as > much space to store. etc.... The biigest hurdle is that since, in the case of at least yEnc, many if not most don't even follow the guidelines of the people who created it and this leads to great frustration and confusion...eventually to the common feeling that it must be the domain of people who puvey illegal downloads and child pornography... and ESPECIALLY if the headers are full of typographic gibberish that indicate Japanese, Chinese, Cyrillic etc...or in Dutch, which right now only one or two of our regulars even know. Perhaps you now may understand why ignorance is blistering. > people always argue about poor people and third world nations not having the > technology to use more modern formats. get real. if you cannot handle http > or other modern type downloads, how are you going to play these files back > once you downloaded them? People in so-called Third World nations often CREATE these files--and the viral troubles...go figure. Article: 318080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Photo of Stewart Warner R192 round metal radio? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:38:04 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:yrOdnSJYAcjkzFrfRVn-hA@giganews.com... > Someone has contacted me regarding a Stewart Warner model R192 radio > which he describes as having a "round metal case." > > Does anyone have a photo of this set, or know where to find one? I > have never seen one and have no clue whether it's cool or a > monstrosity. > Phil---maybe it's the "good companion" model from Stein's book. I'll post an image to the binaries. jim menning Article: 318081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:49:28 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Phil B" wrote in message news:q4WdneIvyuOsyVrfRVn-og@comcast.com... > "xrongor" wrote: in message news:da74ue$615r$1@news3.infoave.net... >> > >> lets be honest in light of present technology. about the only thing > more >> 'obsolete' than regular newsgroups these days is binary newsgroups... >> >> i mean come on. lets double the size of an already large binary file > just >> to encode it in a format that only still exists for those who refuse > to >> learn new technology. make it take twice as long to download. twice > as >> much space to store. etc.... > > What? > > There are several very highly compressed formats used in binaries posts. > In fact, they are hard to keep up with sometimes. The latest state of > the art is there, if you want it. binary newsgroups are the cutting edge of compression? hmmm.... im not gonna touch that one. im not denying that you can use non standard (as per usenet) compression techniques and post them to usenet. but this requires a modified newsreader or external program to decode them. stupid. im simply suggesting that we scrap the 30 year old usenet model and come up with something better instead of duct taping patches to it. im not the first. and the only reason it doesnt happen is inertia. there is no good technical reason to keep usenet the way it is. you can keep the names, the format, all that. just make it better and simpler. and REALLY free. > The real point about binaries posts is they are absolutely free. Sure > you might be able to ftp a 500 MB video file from a website, but you > will pay big bucks for it. The binaries are where the wild and wooly > hang out and transfer all sorts of music and video files for free and > without regard for copyright laws. If you are a moral stiff, you > probably would like to see the binaries banned because they are illegal > and immoral. If you are a free spirit, you would like to see them > flourish. I don't know exactly where I stand between the extremes, but I > think it is kind of neat that there is a pipeline there if you choose to > use it. I also think it is a good thing that most people don't know > Usenet exists, so it is not a big deal in our current environment of > red-hot right wing political agendas. if usenet were free, this thread wouldnt even exist. the binaries are where the people who were wild and wooly 10 years ago and havent kept up with current technology hang out and transfer music and files for free. randy Article: 318082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:01:50 GMT The whole scheme of using ASCII-based prompts for tracing thread is a PITA too, as I just discovered realizing Phil B. wrote most of what I replied to. PHP dos it slightly better, use of colors or a common screen name reference in quotes would help. This is a problem that dates back to the seventies when graphics interfaces weren't even in the picture for many (throwback to terminals with green phosphor screens)? Article: 318083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42C7664F.CF8AC52A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Arrrrggg !!! References: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:16:19 GMT Phil B wrote: > > Wow. What a thread. I am totally lost. I don't know lateral from > longitudinal, I don't have an antenna tower, and I don't want to string > 1000 ft of copper tubing or drive a bazillion ground rods. > > Can someone sort this junk out and make it applicable to an average > homeowner who wants to protect electronic devices in his home? The first protection should be at the meter or service disconnect. Then the plug in MOV based protection adds more protection to individual items. Lightning has several ways to destroy things. Direct strike, induced current flow, or ground differential with multiple grounds. Take them one at a time. Make sure you have the proper protection at the meter. Inspect the ground wire. If there is a separate ground rod for the telephone or cable, bond them with solid 8 gauge or heavier wire. Weld the wire to the ground rods, or use NO-OX to prevent the wire and clamp from corroding. Add some plug in protection on sensitive devices, and as a last step, remember to inspect the system once in a while for any signs of corrosion or loose connections. > Here is the scenario again. We Hear sparking in various outlets in the > house sporadically over several minutes. Then lightning strikes > somewhere along high voltage power line. Blows the fuse above the pole > transformer to smithereens. Four electronic devices in my home are > smoked. What is the best PRACTICAL way of lowering the likelihood of > this happening again. > > I always unplug my valuable electronic devices when lightning > approaches. I never bothered to unplug the things I lost this time, like > the dog fence box, garage door opener and cable modem. My newest > strategy is to unplug all this stuff and shut off all my breakers. If I did that, I would be without electric most of the summer, and half the winter. > I thought a whole-house protector was the recommended solution, but I am > now lost with all the 1st level, 2nd level, 3rd level protection stuff. > You guys seem to be more caught up in outdoing each other with your > knowledge of obscure aspects of this subject than providing a practical > solution that we can all use. > > Phil B I learned it the hard way by living in one of the worst places in the world for lightning damage. -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 318084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:38:44 GMT end of my ability to type straight tonight too...guten nicht, Herrs und Fraus "Steven Dinius" wrote in message news:FXJxe.1732$S17.320317@monger.newsread.com... > I think you are confusing yEnc with Linux/open source. > > Unix-based open source proggrammer ar developing their code to share with > others and better the OS experience. > > yEnc and other schema like it are used to protect privacy and end up being > NON-compliant to the very yEnc standard they claim to follow! They devise > changes to the scheme and combine formals like mixing a cake batter, often > with NO INGREDIENT LIST (info to decode). Compression is nice but it's > merely to send more crap in the same bandwidth, regardless of content but > often for illegal files and pornography. Joe low looks at this and can't > figure a thing. BINGO>instant suelessness of compression mode. > > end of file-end of story-not the end of the stupidity > > Article: 318085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:39:41 GMT frauleins too Article: 318086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:58:08 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Arrrrggg !!! References: <42C7664F.CF8AC52A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <77405$42c77063$4232bda0$7559@COQUI.NET> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Phil B wrote: > >>Wow. What a thread. I am totally lost. I don't know lateral from >>longitudinal, I don't have an antenna tower, and I don't want to string >>1000 ft of copper tubing or drive a bazillion ground rods. >> >>Can someone sort this junk out and make it applicable to an average >>homeowner who wants to protect electronic devices in his home? > > > > > The first protection should be at the meter or service disconnect. In the old days, each of our cable tv amplifier locations throughout town had its own individual 115v service. This was in the days before powering the equipment thru the actual cable lines. We used plain-jane "pellet protectors" which were available at the local supply house for about 10 bucks or less and mounted directly at the service entrance. I can only recall a couple of incidents of lightning damage in dozens of locations in the 6-7 years I was there. This was a mix of tube and solid-state gear with no other level of protection. And this was in Eastern NC which competes with Michael A's central Fla location for being one of the worst areas in the country for lightning. This was not a surge-prevention device by any means inasmuch as it was a lightning arrestor device. Cheap, effective and a good first level protection device. I understand that they are still being sold although consumers seem to prefer fancier devices full of solid-state gizmos which easily go belly up in the presence of lightning. > Then the plug in MOV based protection adds more protection to individual > items. Lightning has several ways to destroy things. Direct strike, > induced current flow, or ground differential with multiple grounds. > Take them one at a time. Make sure you have the proper protection at the > meter. Inspect the ground wire. If there is a separate ground rod for > the telephone or cable, bond them with solid 8 gauge or heavier wire. > Weld the wire to the ground rods, or use NO-OX to prevent the wire and > clamp from corroding. > > Add some plug in protection on sensitive devices, and as a last step, > remember to inspect the system once in a while for any signs of > corrosion or loose connections. Of course. > > >>Here is the scenario again. We Hear sparking in various outlets in the >>house sporadically over several minutes. Then lightning strikes >>somewhere along high voltage power line. Blows the fuse above the pole >>transformer to smithereens. Four electronic devices in my home are >>smoked. What is the best PRACTICAL way of lowering the likelihood of >>this happening again. "PRACTICAL and lowering the likelihood"? Pellet protector. You won't get the arcing in the outlets and your real SURGE protection devices won't be destroyed as easily. > > >>I thought a whole-house protector was the recommended solution, but I am >>now lost with all the 1st level, 2nd level, 3rd level protection stuff. >>You guys seem to be more caught up in outdoing each other with your >>knowledge of obscure aspects of this subject than providing a practical >>solution that we can all use. Hey, its Usenet! But all that has been said is true. You can't have some device hefty enough to handle major surges thats going to be fast and effective at protecting little tiny chips in your domestic appliances. And thats where the 'level' part comes in. The more sensitive surge-protection devices need some protection themselves. There's no single magic shield that will do everything. I don't know what they are selling as a "whole house protector" these days but I'd stick a pellet protector in front of it :) >> >>Phil B -Bill M Article: 318087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Photo of Stewart Warner R192 round metal radio? Message-ID: <5RLxe.7826$hV5.5491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 06:46:25 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:iYGdnbeCt76T61rfRVn-3Q@giganews.com... > > > On the other hand, some pictures are better than none, and it's a > lot of work to put together that kind of reference. I suppose it's > vastly more profitable to sell separate editions (can you spell > "shelf space"?) than to fold everything into an updated mega-book, > even though the folding is just repetitive clerical work in these > days of computer publishing. > One of these days there'll be a computer DVD with tens of thousands of cross referenced radios by brand, model numbers, tube lineups, etc., with a nice photo of each model. That will make all the reference guides currently in existence obsolete. I don't know who will do it, but sooner or later, someone will. jim menning Article: 318088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:03:55 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Phil B" wrote in message news:yNednUkS-avn-1rfRVn-3w@comcast.com... > Well, I don't quite follow your line about Usenet not keeping up with > cutting edge of compression? The important part of the compression is in > the binary material itself. The overhead of Usenet data transfer is a > relatively small fraction of the overall data transfer. i took what you said to mean that the latest greatest compression techniques were debuted on usenet. after reading it again, i think you meant that you have to keep up with the newest compression protocols on your computer to view the files. my point is simply that mpeg and jpeg files are already compressed to a very high degree. the only reason for yEnc is to patch a system that cannot handle the burden its being placed under. it doesnt add any compression to the already compressed files, and it only reclaims space the file shouldnt have been using in the first place. but it does make it so half the people on usenet cant view them. > I do agree that Usenet has a lot of inertia. The yEnc encoding protocol > has been around for years now and it is just beginning to become > popular. yEnc encodes binary files using all 8 bits instead of 7 out of > 8 bits. This is a whopping 14% improvement at the expense of millions of > users having to download software to decode it. Meanwhile, DSL and cable > high speed connections have increased speed so much over the obsolete > dial-up modems that the encoding scheme is now moot. see, now you're even talking about things being obsolete. thats my whole point. things have changed since usenet was invented. the way usenet is handled should change to keep up. call it usenet 2005... as for encoding schemes, they are just a remnant of that obsolete system. why do i have to encode a file in the first place? and break it up into tiny bits? the only answer is 'because you have to do that to get it on usenet'. ok there is another... yeah yeah, i know.. usenet for all. some guy with a 1200 baud modem and pays by the minute doesnt want to download pictures in a non binary newsgroup. but a newer better system could accomodate both, seamlessly. alas there are better web based systems already in place. the irony is that for some things they are indeed better. but for things like getting information on fixing up old radios, you go to the old newsgroups. because thats where the old pro's are. imho, like it or not, usenet is becoming firmly in the realm of the hobbiest. same as fixing up old radio's. which is one of the reason i think many of us enjoy it more than other types of internet message boards. im certainly not saying they should ban it or stop it. just that from a business standpoint i can understand why access to it is becoming more and more limited. randy Article: 318089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: Subject: Re: (7 vs 8 bit--extremely simple reason] was alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:55:06 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:da82ke$6d5p$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Phil B" wrote in message > news:yNednUkS-avn-1rfRVn-3w@comcast.com... All these protocols for 7 bit systems were written by experts... when the average bitrate was 300 bits a second (or Baud-- still not sure where that came from) and the Bell System made you get a dedicated DATA line, an awfully big investment even if you really needed one. It works quite well because it WAS developed for what we would call dismal conditions now but was absolutely the cat's lame pajamas in the 1970's. 8 came about because 7 couldn't yield data needed for high quality graphics or something. yEncoding and other so called "compression" schema, and using .rar and .par spread the message over several posts/files, like "combine/decode" only encoded after that it become a cryptography game to try and obscure files from detection by other than the intended receiver. Murky begins right there. Beyond LAME, MIME, Base-64 and UUENCODE it's pretty much shark infested. Corrupted files in those formats will likely not be recoverable and of course, yEnc and the lot appear as random ASCII with nonsense HTTP or email falsed codes embedded (which I'd assume somebody could use to trigger something if they were smart, as OE is searching for hyperlinks). Article: 318090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: <5RLxe.7826$hV5.5491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Photo of Stewart Warner R192 round metal radio? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:57:23 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:5RLxe.7826$hV5.5491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:iYGdnbeCt76T61rfRVn-3Q@giganews.com... > > > > > > On the other hand, some pictures are better than none, and it's a > > lot of work to put together that kind of reference. I suppose it's > > vastly more profitable to sell separate editions (can you spell > > "shelf space"?) than to fold everything into an updated mega-book, > > even though the folding is just repetitive clerical work in these > > days of computer publishing. > > > > > One of these days there'll be a computer DVD with tens of thousands of > cross referenced radios by brand, model numbers, tube lineups, etc., > with a nice photo of each model. That will make all the reference > guides currently in existence obsolete. > > I don't know who will do it, but sooner or later, someone will. > > jim menning Of course, you mean, "over the current such and such guide copyright holder's dead body", I would figure? LOL Article: 318091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" References: <5RLxe.7826$hV5.5491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Photo of Stewart Warner R192 round metal radio? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:00:17 GMT "Steven Dinius" wrote in message news:TLNxe.1737$S17.321252@monger.newsread.com... > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:5RLxe.7826$hV5.5491@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > > > I don't know who will do it, but sooner or later, someone will. > > > > jim menning > > Of course, you mean, "over the current such and such guide copyright > holder's dead body", I would figure? LOL Don't tell me you chickened out TOO. Article: 318092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alt.binaries.multimedia.vintage-tv From: Larry W4CSC References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 07:40:51 -0400 "Phil B" wrote in news:yNednUkS-avn-1rfRVn- 3w@comcast.com: > This is a whopping