Article: 319846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <7RRCe.28177$aA5.26004@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1121719077.875715.68480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7802b$42dc29da$4232bda1$6814@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:09:53 GMT "-ex-" wrote in message news:7802b$42dc29da$4232bda1$6814@COQUI.NET... > lbrty4us@aol.com wrote: > > > There should be a fine for people who point to AES for everything. ;-) > > > > No need. AES already charges one ($2.50) to anybody ordering from them. > > -Bill Noted, however occasionally AES will carry something you can't get anywhere else unless you buy some impossibly large quantity. Jameco and Allied and Mouser and Tubedepot are also all nice in their own way for getting certain one of a kind things, as is Angela Instruments. Though Angela sure seems to have a 'tude about hollering at you in all caps throughout their listings, and with no secure online ordering and iffy phone availability, I decided on fax. Tubedepot has an ultra low ground fedex shipping, though it took a couple go rounds with them to get an error on a pack of resistors fixed. (They were polite and apologetic about it.) Article: 319847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: www.uRummage.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:13:32 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1122499652.728754.40300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do whatcha gonna do when they come for you. netcops! randy Article: 319848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: Subject: Re: Interest group for music collectors Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:16:55 GMT "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96A0CAD4A1F93noone@63.223.7.253... > "HiTech RedNeck" wrote in > news:KWSFe.1074$aT1.345@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com: > > > in principle because the music file > > can be tagged at the source with an encrypted identity tracing back to > > the original purchase. > > Doesn't work. Products like Total Recorder (http://www.highcriteria.com > for $29) is a proxy server that sits between the operating system and the > soundcard. It will rip any sound source, either on its way to the > soundcard from software like RealAudio, or from the soundcard with an > external audio source plugged into it like the computer's own CD player > playing an audio CD. Because they can't send the encryption data to the > soundcard or from the soundcard's conversion of analog audio, what Total > Recorder converts to whatever codec you like (selectable) is unencrypted. I head heard sometime back about a scheme called digital watermarking, which involves putting things like subtle phase shifts in the sound to tap out codes at a rate of about 16 baud. "Golden ears" supposedly can't hear it. This was supposed to survive everything including D-A-D conversion. Of course like I pointed out, because we don't have Soviet Union type big brother police (yet) and people can always trade in person, this is trying to stuff a very big genie back into a very small bottle. Article: 319849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <11ebiaha7hc4i59@corp.supernews.com> <1122376834.296691.240210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42E78B28.5567F563@sympatico.ca> <1122478318.580887.89880@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <8zOFe.5794$6f.5036@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Ultralinear transformers? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:33:05 GMT "robert casey" wrote in message news:zjVFe.10191$oZ.4621@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > > I am wondering whether, if I replace that old tank electrolytic with a > > honkin' 1000 microfarad capacitor (also upgrading the diode to one that > > tolerates more surge current) and use individual 47 and 22 microfarad > > capacitors inside the chassis rather than on top, it will create any trouble > > with the hum bucking or some other obscure thing backfiring on me. The > > hoped effect is that it will virtually silence the hum. The old > > electrolytic is inside a ratty, scraped paper sleeve and protrudes from the > > top of the chassis, and it will be easier to clamp the new 1000 mfd in its > > place than try to rebuild something that's not all that old (though I'll > > keep it for possible future use). > > A filter cap of that style and age has probably dried up some and > lost lots of capacitance, thus allowing lots of hum. The hum > bucking scheme isn't perfect. A 100 or 200uF cap should work well > enough. Also a 47uF to 100uF cap for the old 22uF cap would > also be good. Remove the old cap's connections when you > connect up the new caps. The hum bucking circuit will still > work, it would just see less hum to buck. > > As for the heaters, I'd create a separate diode and cap for > it. Tubes prefer the heater be positive in respect to the > cathodes for lower noise anyway. If I do this (separate supply, or even with same one beefed up in stiffness with the 1000uF and heavy diode), and I keep the heater string order the 50EH5's will be more positive heater to cathode than the 12AX7 is. But of course the 12AX7 is in the most noise prone position. The 12AX7 heater is closest to circuit ground now. Should I reverse the heater string order to make the 12AX7 the highest guy on the DC heater string to maximally suppress noise? Article: 319850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <42e57c45@nntp.onyx.net> <1122500898.000029.211810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:34:00 GMT In article <1122500898.000029.211810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, questforsquier@yahoo.com says... > > > >More to do with transportation costs. Like if you are near a pipeline Here in Ft Wayne it is tankered a whole 25 miles... 15 to the closest point of the city and they are always higher than the other end of town... really think they are just bending us over! John k9uwa Article: 319851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <2LPEe.158127$go.55266@fed1read05> <19790-42E7989D-20@storefull-3155.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <0IWFe.189136$_o.125427@attbi_s71> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:40:12 GMT In article <19790-42E7989D-20@storefull-3155.bay.webtv.net>, jimfberg@webtv.net says... > > >I hope Bill is doing fine. I guess I will mail him a card. > UpDate on Bill Turner.... Jean just had a nice hour chat with Bill's girlfriend Sally.. on Saturday evening.... Bill is doing better.... but still in the ReHab center.. figure another couple of weeks it sounds like before he will get to come home... Speech is coming along well... Sally says that actually he now talks a bit better than he did prior to this stroke.. Still can't get up and walk by himself is the reason he is still in the place... says he sort of likes it there... only two guys in the rehab unit... and a lot of ladies... Any of you that want to call Bill ... he appreciates the calls and the chance to yak with the guys.. please call him after 3PM CDT as by then he will be back in his room after the therapy sessions... Phone number at the ReHab center is 636 - 947 - 5000 and ask for Bill Turner.... John k9uwa Article: 319852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <1121969216.788834.157320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42E832D5.3040400@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:02:18 GMT "Roger D Johnson" wrote in message news:42E832D5.3040400@adelphia.net... > BFoelsch wrote: > > "HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message > > news:BEVFe.360$gQ5.97@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com... > > > >> wrote in message > >>news:1121969216.788834.157320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> > >>>Mark Oppat wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Their use in production radios was fairly short, I think the first > >>>>use > >> > >>of > >> > >>>>these was 1956 model year, and they were done by about 1964 I think... > >>> > >>>More logically, just the natural extension of much earlier low-volt DC > >>>receiving tube use in light aircraft radios & etc. It had long been > >>>known (& used) that even higher-volt designed tubes could be > >>>practically used at these low voltages, so it seems natural that newer > >>>ones would be optimized for it. AFAIK the use of low-volt tubes in > >>>practical gear goes back to the beginning of the loctal era, if not > >>>further. > >> > >>What were some of the high volt tubes that could be pressed into the low > >>volt configuration of having the full "B+" on grid #1 (to overcome space > >>charge) and control signal on grid #2. I guess 12AU6 and the like > >>(pentodes) could serve, but with not much gain because the original screen > >>grid was not very close to the original control grid. > >> > >>Also space charge or no, I remember as a kid experimenter running a 25L6 > >>off > >>of 9 volt flashlight batteries with a headphone output, in a high voltage > >>like configured circuit. According to all the orthodox texts that kind of > >>low voltage should have never worked. The silly thing actually still > >>significantly amplified the input signal source (a phono cartridge), in a > >>way that did not sound distorted at all, and I proved that the responsible > >>agent was the tube by cutting off the power to the heater and hearing the > >>output signal die after a second or two. > >> > >>And there are starved-plate triode amplifiers in certain guitar tube > >>preamps > >>to this day, using much less than 24 volts for a B+. > > > > > > Back around 1950, QST published a circuit for a code practice oscillator > > that used NO plate supply. Used a 6J5 and an audio transformer. Only source > > of power was the heater. Worked strictly on the current flow caused by the > > heated cathode. I built one and it worked fine. I never measured it, but the > > plate voltage had to be below 1 volt. > > > > Maybe I'll slap it together again next rainy day, if I can remember the > > circuit. > > > > > It was in Feb 1954 QST. > > 73, Roger I wonder if a transmitter could be built from that, or maybe a beefier tube to get a better effect. The ultimate QRP, zero volts B+. (Well it's really using the A) Oh and I got a detail wrong about the "starved-plate" low volt operated triodes, they're actually "starved-cathode" (heater at reduced voltage). This reduces the volume of electrons boiled off the cathode, compensating for the current stopping space charge they'd otherwise (unclaimed by any nearby anode) create. I suppose such a technique would be a bit touchy to adjust in a mass produced item like a car radio, that has to work through a long tube lifetime. Article: 319853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sharon" References: Subject: Re: thanks, George! Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:10:52 -0400 Message-ID: <42e83fb5$0$14460$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net> what does this have to do with mexican food??????????? "cowboy" wrote in message news:jdydnRgzePnFSVTfRVn-1w@comcast.com... > On July 4th, I'd like to thank George Bush for all he has done for our > country: > > > taking the largest surplus of all time and turn it into the largest deficit > of > all time, something we now have to pay back, and so your children and > grandchildren are now about $150,000 in debt......each! > > murdering over 100,000 innocent Iraqis who never did anything to any country > > setting back environmental law 200 years by selling out to mega-polluting > evil > corporations > > trying to force organized shady religion on the people in violation of the > Constitution > > stopping stem cell research that could save millions of people from the > ravages of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, etc. > > implementing policies that resulted in the largest job loss in American > history, and the jobs have never returned > > lying to the American people and the world with one reason after another on > why nearly 2000 Americans needed to die, then we find out it is all a pack > of lies > > managing to turn 95% of the countries of the world against us, someday we > will need their help when China & India become superpowers. > > declaring a bogus war "on terrorism" via a middle east nation-building oil > grab that, for every "terrorist" killed, about 100 new real terrorists are > created! > > installing wacko extremist judges into lifetime appointments in the federal > judiciary, ensuring this Hitler-like madness will continue > > > Article: 319854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: Subject: Re: How to do gold lettering for finished wood? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:32:48 GMT Thanks. Letraset was a confusing site to me, and I could not figure out how you actually buy something there, but I found another, much friendlier one (Speedy Signs, www.speedysigns.com ). With some fiddling around and watching the measurements, I can produce a custom decal with the words fully spelled out in the places they need to be, in a very wide choice of fonts and colors, for well under ten bucks. They're a vinyl decal of the letters on a backing paper and water transfer, the only caveat is they have to be placed on a smooth oil free surface. I think I will use them, with water based polyurethane varnish as a base. (Unless someone can suggest a better medium.) "Robert Murrell" wrote in message news:vI6Ce.2484$dX5.2137@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... > I have used dry transfer lettering. You have to place each letter > individually, but you can spell anything and can match the original font. > Try looking at the Letraset web site. > > "HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message > news:U24Ce.3953$Ih7.2775@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com... > >I have an old wooden stereo phono cabinet, of varnished wood, that is > >beaten > > up enough that I would like to strip, sand, re-stain, and re-varnish it. > > Its value to me is as a family memento, not a collectors' item (i.e. I > > want > > it to look nice in the living room, but I'd never want to sell it). > > However > > stripping the wood finish would remove some gold colored lettering, 1/8" > > high, that is on an approximately 14" long, 1/4" high strip of wood > > beneath > > the control knobs. How could I re-apply such lettering to the refinished > > cabinet? I'm thinking in terms of creating a decal that would fit the > > entire strip, but I don't want the covered surface to look like it > > obviously > > has a decal on it. > > > > TIA > > redneck > > > > > > > Article: 319855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Moviedial blub photos Message-ID: <5vXFe.60755$3j2.2022223@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:34:41 GMT I just posted 3 photos of the spare bulb from my Airline Moviedial on the binaries group, alt.binaries.pictures.radio Ron Article: 319856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:40:57 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: PA speakers - Worth salvaging? References: <11ee5ac2fna036e@corp.supernews.com> <1122517351.870410.283300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1d40e$42e845bd$4232bdf5$14379@COQUI.NET> lbrty4us@aol.com wrote: > Typical 70-volt OPT primary Z's for typical power taps, as per abv > formula: > > 1w = 5,000 > 2w = 2500 > 5w = 1000 > 10w = 500 > > > 1w taps on OPT's used in schools & other larger distribution systems > were seldom seen. A 1w tap (5000z) *would* be useful with a low-fi > single-tube 6V6 in a pinch when no good OPT can be afforded or > scrounged, and somewhat crappy but useable for speech with a 6F6 at it > typical O/P. They were not designed for music. > > They also are not designed to carry DC. My mileage varies. I recently used a new 8" pa system type speaker complete with its transformer in a Philco 366. It sounded great and although I was warned about the DC aspect, I played the radio for about 8 hours a day for nearly two months with no problems. -Bill Article: 319857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Help Identify Early Fisher Amp photo Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:28:17 -0500 Message-ID: <5hgge151jv0n9hsdr2v1dbhhul9mg7nakt@4ax.com> References: <1122467313.037313.113780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122483607.859731.288170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jul 2005 10:00:07 -0700 sharknews@aol.com wrote: >can another tube type be substituted....I have many but not that one It should be easy to find an OA2. It's a very common and inexpensive item. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 319858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 radio/tv/phono console in Wisconsin Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:46:30 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:SYednZpOfNDVo3XfRVn-iQ@giganews.com... > A visitor to my website has a Scott radio/tv/phono console that he would > like to give away (yes, that's F-R-E-E) to someone who would restore and > care for it. > > Note the part about "restore and care for it." That means, no eBay > resellers. It also means you would not take it for the speaker or some other > part and throw the rest in the garbage :-) > > This is Grandpa's set, not a curb find, and it has a 17" (Croydon?) TV, not > the piddly little 12" TV like mine ( http://antiqueradio.org/scot03.htm ). > Yes, I agree that the speaker board looks like a replacement, but nothing > that a few shots of toning lacquer couldn't cure. > > I would take it myself for the shipping cost, but who has room in the house > for two of these babies? It is located in Wisconsin. > > I have posted a photo in the alt.binaries.pictures.radio newsgroup. > > To get in touch with the owner, go to http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm > and send me an email. > > Regards, I'd pay to get it shipped here in parts.... Article: 319859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <1121969216.788834.157320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122518763.866341.80280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:57:51 GMT wrote in message news:1122518763.866341.80280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > HiTech RedNeck wrote: > > > What were some of the high volt tubes that could be pressed into the low > > volt configuration of having the full "B+" on grid #1 (to overcome space > > charge) and control signal on grid #2. > > I have no idea what you are going on about, they were not space-charged > tubes & you are making things up to fit your idea of why they worked. > See Ken's mention of the BC-1206, for only one example of a pre-WW2 > very reliable nav radio audible in a very loud biplane using ordinary > 12v heater loctals in a conventional ckt with very low operating point. Take that 'tude off dude, I'm just questioning following on to someone else's remark about the lo volt usage of the high volt tubes, surmising that's what they MIGHT have done. I ain't surprised that the rules on how low you can go with B+ could be "broken" contrary to the books, like I said I tried it myself empirically, probably when you were knee high to a peanut. I also *do* know how the *actual* designed space charge tubes work. Article: 319860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1122406870.601089.195230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3WCFe.5455$6f.1684@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> <453ca$42e703ea$4232be0d$26763@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Resonant capacitor from ground to chassis? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:04:50 GMT What I found today: Line at 117vac; origonal selenium rectifier; 8 volts across filiment string. No resonant cap - Birdies all over the band from 1620 to 530. Origonal Resonant cap back in - Birdies from 1620 to 1500 New 0.1 uf Safey - Same as Resonant cap. Replaced Selenium with Silicon and 180 ohm 2w resistor (tweaked for 6.20 volts across filiment string (1.4v rated filiments all 4 tubes including the 3V4) at 120 vac) - Input AC Resultant 120 Same birdies as new 0.1uf non res. 117 One birdie at ~1600 109 No birdies at all. After alignment at 120 vac one birdie remained with very clear strong reception.recieves well at 117vac and Ok at 109 vac. Tweaked lead wires around oscillator coil and eliminated the last birdie! Now to re-stich the leather case. The thread (string) just seemed to decay. Thanks all for your input, Paul. P Article: 319861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 radio/tv/phono console in Wisconsin Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:08:59 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:GSYFe.9573$dU3.2821@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Why doesn't someone check how much shipping would cost, and then just pay > for the shipping! > In my case, I couldn't have it shipped in one piece. Article: 319862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 radio/tv/phono console in Wisconsin Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:08:06 GMT Why doesn't someone check how much shipping would cost, and then just pay for the shipping! Omer "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dc9gsb$po6$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:SYednZpOfNDVo3XfRVn-iQ@giganews.com... >> A visitor to my website has a Scott radio/tv/phono console that he would >> like to give away (yes, that's F-R-E-E) to someone who would restore and >> care for it. >> >> Note the part about "restore and care for it." That means, no eBay >> resellers. It also means you would not take it for the speaker or some > other >> part and throw the rest in the garbage :-) >> >> This is Grandpa's set, not a curb find, and it has a 17" (Croydon?) TV, > not >> the piddly little 12" TV like mine ( >> http://antiqueradio.org/scot03.htm ). >> Yes, I agree that the speaker board looks like a replacement, but nothing >> that a few shots of toning lacquer couldn't cure. >> >> I would take it myself for the shipping cost, but who has room in the > house >> for two of these babies? It is located in Wisconsin. >> >> I have posted a photo in the alt.binaries.pictures.radio newsgroup. >> >> To get in touch with the owner, go to http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm >> and send me an email. >> >> Regards, > > I'd pay to get it shipped here in parts.... > > Article: 319863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1961 Sergio Rodrigues Sheriff "Mole" Chair on eBay (Ends Aug 5) From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122482346.905935.250490@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122502598.205656.121820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122510009.875040.37050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9VYFe.189567$_o.87551@attbi_s71> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:10:45 GMT In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz says... > > >Let's hope it never resurfaces. >Phil Nelson > > Well every year or so... some "Dim Bulb" gets the bright idea of trying it... usually they have no idea what is involved... or what the ramifications of the new group and the elimination of the old group would involve!.. John k9uwa Article: 319864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122520929.381094.180900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:17:34 GMT In article <1122520929.381094.180900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, lbrty4us@aol.com says... > > >HiTech RedNeck wrote: > >> Noted, however occasionally AES will carry something you can't get anywhere >> else unless you buy some impossibly large quantity. > >Name one. > Well I restore about as many radios as anyone else I know of... about 150 of them per year.... I have now reached my "One Year Anniversary" from ordering anything from AES ... two things totally soured me on them..... #1.... their "Handling Fee" #2.... their continued selling of Zenith Dial Glass for the '38 radios... even though they have known for 3 years that what they are selling won't fit the radio.... Convexivity is TOO GREAT and the chassis won't fit into cabinet far enough to get the knobs on the radio.... and they still insist if you want to send it back.... thats #1.... U PAY RETURN POSTAGE... and #2... they charge you a 25% Re-Stocking Fee..................... in three words.............. rather than the 2 words I would rather use! PISS ON THEM! I'll now go quietly back to my nose in the corner position! John k9uwa Article: 319865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 radio/tv/phono console in Wisconsin Message-ID: <30ZFe.9577$dU3.2332@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:18:07 GMT WHY? Omer "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dc9ln0$qld$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message > news:GSYFe.9573$dU3.2821@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Why doesn't someone check how much shipping would cost, and then just pay >> for the shipping! >> > > In my case, I couldn't have it shipped in one piece. > > > Article: 319866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 console in Wisconsin: ATTENTION JIM HILINS From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:20:52 GMT In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz says... > > > >Phil Nelson Wake Up Jim Hilins.... this is in your backyard!..... John k9uwa Article: 319867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 console in Wisconsin: ATTENTION JIM HILINS Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:24:01 GMT SOMEBODY PLEASE WAKE UP! Omer "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:E2ZFe.188102$x96.158977@attbi_s72... > In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz > says... >> >> >> >>Phil Nelson > > > Wake Up Jim Hilins.... this is in your backyard!..... > > John k9uwa > Article: 319868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: PayPal From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <35341$42e7b743$4232bd40$30118@COQUI.NET> <5qWdnZK8YeresHXfRVn-hg@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:26:29 GMT In article , gizzledgeezer@comcast.net says... > > >This was no accident; they >planned it from the beginning. > > Yes I am sure that they were plotting against us from the beginning!... Where's the rest of my Run & Coke?... John k9uwa Article: 319869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 console in Wisconsin: ATTENTION JIM HILINS Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:45:42 -0500 Message-ID: <42e862a5$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> Wake up? I told Phil an hour ago that I was interested. Most people in this time zone are asleep at this hour though, as I'm sure the one who has the set now is. He is in the same town as my office; pickup would be trivial. Gonna be at least spring before I'm able to work on it though; we're trying to build a house this fall. Just have to wait and see if I'm the lucky winner. paul "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:B5ZFe.9578$dU3.7480@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > SOMEBODY PLEASE WAKE UP! > > Omer > > > "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > news:E2ZFe.188102$x96.158977@attbi_s72... > > In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz > > says... > >> > >> > >> > >>Phil Nelson > > > > > > Wake Up Jim Hilins.... this is in your backyard!..... > > > > John k9uwa > > > > Article: 319870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes References: <7RRCe.28177$aA5.26004@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1121719077.875715.68480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7802b$42dc29da$4232bda1$6814@COQUI.NET> <1122520929.381094.180900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:48:18 GMT lbrty4us@aol.com wrote: > HiTech RedNeck wrote: > > >>Noted, however occasionally AES will carry something you can't get anywhere >>else unless you buy some impossibly large quantity. > > > Name one. > Sorry, can't name one, but I'm not going to try. But I will put forth that for us West Coast folks, AES though expensive, is very fast. For those of us in Southern California, an order placed on Wednesday will often arrive on Friday, just in time for weekend work. And I'm talking UPS ground shipping. Almost any other commercial source takes five days in transit, unless you pay for air shipping, which easily eats up the $2.50 on most orders. Sure, AES is a bit pricey, but they are friendly, fast and efficient. I'd dare say that if you are East of the Mississippi, your mileage will vary. Regards, DAve Article: 319871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Need a knob for.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 05:33:40 GMT Stephanie, I have rebuilt knob shafts with cut up pieces of Bic ink pens and 5 min epoxy. If you don't need museum quality it works quite well. If you are missing the metal clip to hold the split end tight I have used a wrapping of bar copper wire with a dab of solder. Paul P. Article: 319872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Need a knob for.... Message-ID: <88_Fe.41201$5N3.23908@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 05:35:00 GMT Oh, don't forget the heat shrink tubing to reinforce the joint between the original shaft and the new spliced on ink pen. PP. "Paul P" wrote in message news:U6_Fe.41197$5N3.40287@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Stephanie, > > I have rebuilt knob shafts with cut up pieces of Bic ink pens and 5 min > epoxy. If you don't need museum quality it works quite well. If you are > missing the metal clip to hold the split end tight I have used a wrapping > of bar copper wire with a dab of solder. > > Paul P. > Article: 319873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: PayPal Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:48:15 -0600 Message-ID: References: <35341$42e7b743$4232bd40$30118@COQUI.NET> <5qWdnZK8YeresHXfRVn-hg@comcast.com> "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:xcidna2CHpnWp3XfRVn-2Q@comcast.com... >> What's your point, man? Should all businesses be required to get >> your approval before deciding on a fee for a service? > > Why not? I'm their customer. why are you a customer of a business you think is ripping you off? >> If you want to cry about businesses overcharging, I think PayPal is >> a ridiculous place to start... > > You've got to start somewhere. PayPal has no reall competition, so they > think they can charge whatever they like. > > Note that PayPal cleverly went from giving almost everything for free, > then > slowly adding high charges for their services. This was no accident; they > planned it from the beginning. imagine that. a business that planned to maximize its profits... somebody do something!!!! randy Article: 319874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:57:46 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Zenith C725F References: <1122444602.770801.50300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122525989.937755.254230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <73e76$42e873de$4232bd40$4172@COQUI.NET> Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > matter, I don't think you'd need cable in the city for TV reception if > you are within sight of the Empire State Building Can you say multi-path! Years ago I visited a cable headend about 40 miles north of NYC (Bedford-Mt. Kisco). It was on a hilltop and you could see the skyline of Manhattan. The VHF channels were terrible with ghosting and they used the UHF repeaters that were active at the time to receive everything! -Bill Article: 319875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FREE! Scott 800 radio/tv/phono console in Wisconsin Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:04:04 +0900 Message-ID: References: <30ZFe.9577$dU3.2332@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:30ZFe.9577$dU3.2332@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > WHY? > Because I can only receive parcels via USPS, with their 70lb and 108" limits.. Article: 319876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: _@_._ Subject: Re: thanks, George! Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:45:43 +0000 Message-ID: <11eh3982tebv141@corp.supernews.com> References: <42e83fb5$0$14460$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net> Sharon wrote: >what does this have to do with mexican food??????????? Quit replying to weeks-old off-topic posts, you stupid moron! Article: 319877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: deFLOWERed Subject: SEEKING DEC 1937 Gangbusters about the Gibson Midwestern bank robbing gang Message-ID: <0apbe117nlq0tlmnugdkjei9gmtfoadnhc@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:13:05 GMT Clair Gibson got my grandmother's brother thrown in Prison for a 1936 bank robbery in Minnesota. Then, when Gibson himself was apprehended, he jumped from the 4th floor of the jail house and killed himself. I would love to find this episode for my Grandmother to hear. thanks! guyharrison@mn.rr.com Please reply via email to: toyfreaks@nospam/hotmail.com Article: 319878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Newby to the group, with a .djvu query. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:08:49 GMT Hello all, I recently signed up for this NG, and read a large number of the posts since January, so I have a bit of a feel for the culture in here. I also made notes of a number of useful Web sites as mentioned by NG members. I used to tinker with radios and TVs a lot when I was a kid, (back when they were just old radios) and then pretty much got away from it. Now I'm starting to to accumulate a trove of electronic junque again. The AA5s and '30s - '40s transformer sets, I'm pretty familiar with, but I recently acquired a pair of Atwater-Kent model 70s, at least, that's what I remember them as. Circa 1925, 4 tube breadboard sets. Not sure if they are TRF or regen circuits. I expect they used '01As or variants thereof, bayonet style sockets, anyway. No tubes came with. Between the two, I think I have enough to make a radio. I went to the Schematic Bank, and attempted to download a Model 70 schematic, having previously downloaded the standalone viewer. All I get is a blank page, and an error message "JB2 data requires a shape dictionary". I know the viewer works, because I downloaded a Zenith radio schematic at random, and it worked just fine. So, have I done something wrong, or are the files for A-K somehow incomplete? I might add I tried for a different A-K schematic, and got the same result. Currently, I have a pair of Bakelite Admirals, one with smashed case, but which works; to go into the other case, of course. I plan to replace the paper caps, having already done the filter can. Also have a nice little all-band table top wood radio, don't remember the make (I'm not at home to go check.), a large DeForest console, a late '40s Zenith AM-FM (single current FM band), a West German AJA multi-band job with eye tube which plays very well, and several transistor portables, including one very old one which employs point-to-point wiring on a metal chassis. Also quite a collection of parts, some of them holdovers from 30+ years ago. One radio I used to own, and really regret parting with: a Zenith Trans-Oceanic, model uncertain, but it used loktal tubes, and had a simulated alligator leatherette case. I actually built an inverter to provide the 90 volt B-circuit voltage from a pair of 6 volt lantern batteries. BTW, I'm located in rural Alberta, about 80 miles northeast of Calgary, but I'm currently on the job at a wellsite in B.C. Gord Richmond Article: 319879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Resonant cap follow up. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:05:03 GMT What I found today: Line at 117vac; original selenium rectifier; 8 volts across filament string. No resonant cap - Birdies all over the band from 1620 to 530. Original Resonant cap back in - Birdies from 1620 to 1500 New 0.1 uf Safety - Same as Resonant cap. Replaced Selenium with Silicon and 180 ohm 2w resistor (tweaked for 6.20 volts across filament string (1.4v rated filaments all 4 tubes including the 3V4) at 120 vac) - Input AC Resultant 120 Same birdies as new 0.1uf non res. 117 One birdie at ~1600 109 No birdies at all. After alignment at 120 vac one birdie remained with very clear strong reception.receives well at 117vac and Ok at 109 vac. Tweaked lead wires around oscillator coil and eliminated the last birdie! Now to re-stitch the leather case. The thread (string) just seemed to decay. Thanks all for your input, Paul. P Article: 319880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Newby to the group, with a .djvu query. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:43:36 GMT In article , richmond@telusplanet.net says... > > >Hello all, > > >Gord Richmond Welcome to the group Gord... not sure where you looked for the schematic of the AK-70 .... from Nostalgia Air they are now PDF type files and operate under Adobe Reader... Click this one first... http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/454/M0001454.htm then you have a choice of left " little monitor screen to download the file into your computer.... or right side.... "The Eye" to bring it up and look at it on the computer screen... Both are PDF files.... Adobe Acrobat Reader is the program that you use to view them with... Radio is a TRF design... and a pretty good one at that. Have fun rebuilding the old filter capacitor blocks and replacing some wire... John k9uwa Article: 319881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:45:26 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Farewell to a dear friend... References: <1122211291.630476.63540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122525966.637263.237640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Phil B wrote: > > My $.02 is that "conservative christians" as a political force just > plain SUCK. Any unbending religious group, be they conservative > christians or fundamentalist muslems, who invade the political realm are > a danger to the civilized world. > > A note to conservative christians: back off! Funny thing..."conservative christians as a political force" didn't seem to really exist BEFORE the 2004 election - or at least never got much publicity. Only when they analyzed the exit polls trying to figure out why Kerry lost did they (the media) come up with this evil bogeyman. Wonder where this political force was when Pat Robertson made his feeble attempt at running? Now its been parroted so much that people actually believe it and lefties are now cowering in the corners in fear of this giant political force that is poised to stomp them out in the name of the religion. Just ain't so. -Bill Article: 319965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Remember this Zenith 9s262? Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 01:47:16 -0600 Message-ID: <18311-42EB3084-110@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1122695602.717122.32820@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In order to glue veneer properly you need lots of clamps and plenty of strips and pieces of wood to help clamp down larger areas and to keep the clamps from marking the wood up . Before you apply any glue you need to have all clamps and pieces of wood ready for the spot you are working on and its a good idea to test fit ( dry run ) to make sure all clamps & wood fit and clamp well on larger areas ... you dont want to be running around searching for clamps after the glue goes on . You can use a hot iron to remove the wrinkled veneer mistake and do your best to scrape all the glue back off while its still warm . You can put a hot electric iron on wood for a short time without burning , its best to move it around a bit although a piece of ordinary printer paper works well to keep the aluminum iron from marking up the wood . Elmers white glue will work but for large areas its best to use yellow wood glue . Article: 319966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Antique radio used to speak with spirits Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 00:51:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: robert casey wrote: > >> >> Turning to sports, anyone know what the radio is? Mind you, the wax >> will have stained the wood, won't it? >> > > Looks like a prewar Philco, AM and maybe SW. I suppose most of > the junk drawn on the top would sand right off. The wax drippings > might be a bit more difficult to completely eliminate from > any exposed wood grain though. Looks like it has a power > transformer, hopefully it's not burned out (shorted filters > and such). It probably hummed a lot, and the sound of a > radio that almost works but has bad power supply filters might > give radio station voices a weird enough sound to make someone > think that they were from spirits.... Especially if it was > tuning SW stations that fade in and out a lot.... Definitely a Philco....I've got one just like it (but without the weird ouija board shit on top). Three bands IIRC. As to the seller's description, I am speechless. -Scott Article: 319967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <9bLFe.20129$bG4.411@fe06.lga> <1122581057.821601.38370@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122676875.306856.3720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Lamp for Wards Airline "Movie Dial" radio Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 06:45:55 -0400 Yes, the #81 will work. However, I was not able to get correct focus all across the screen, and the display is not very bright. I believe the original lamp had a smaller "point source" filament structure that the #81. Check out the photos of the original lamp posted by Ron In Radio Heaven in the binaries group. Another newsgroup member said that a VW Beetle tail lamp bulb would work well (6 volt, tubular shape). I am still looking for one to try! Dave "Ed Engelken" wrote in message news:1122676875.306856.3720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The correct bulb is the #81, just like the fuse lamp in the Hickok tube > testers. > > Best Regards, > > Ed Engelken > Canyon Lake, TX > Article: 319968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <42e9b2b1$0$16783$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Where can I find a new analog meter? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:44:22 GMT Bear in mind that there's a difference between the VOM and a VTVM. A VOM has the advantage of being portable and battery operated. A VTVM is the far better choice for working with high-Z tube circuits, with its 11-meg input impedance. My personal favorite is the RCA Sr. VoltOhmist, and I have one that I use every day. It's sitting on top of my digital meter. When I want accuracy I use the digital; when I want to "see" variations in voltage or resistance, such as testing old volume controls, I use the VTVM. You can't do that easily with a digital. VTVM's in good condition are plentiful. I haven't checked eBay, but I'm sure there are several to choose from -- OR, visit your local swap meet. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "CalBubba" wrote in message news:42e9b2b1$0$16783$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > I'm looking to replace a VOM that I recently trashed. I can't seem to find > any. > > I'm looking for a couple of inexpensive ones: one like the little > hand-sized ones that Radio Shack used to sell, low-tolerance, like for use > in the car and to read power outlets. > > The other would be a slightly better one, suited for low-grade electronics > work -- with enough precision so I can see the needle moving to tip me off > to variations. > > Any ideas? > > Bubba Article: 319969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:15:37 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Farewell to a dear friend... References: <_7-dnWFGDoElxHbfRVn-uA@comcast.com> Message-ID: <71b63$42eb6f6c$4232bd6a$14545@COQUI.NET> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > How many times do we have to repeat the (presumed) fact that McDonald's > coffee was significantly hotter than that of other restaurants, and that it > had been warned about the possibility of scalds? > > Just curious. Who/what is the legislative (and enforcement) agency that determines the "correct" temperature of coffee in fast food joints? -Bill Article: 319970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <42e9b2b1$0$16783$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Where can I find a new analog meter? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:17:11 GMT After posting this message I looked on eBay to see what's there. There are plenty of VTVM's and VOM's listed, in the $10-20 range. This includes the ol' standby Triplett 630's and Simpson 260's. There's a couple B&K VTVM's that are VER-RY tempting -- and, before I left the page I bought a Simpson digital bench meter for $25. Gee, looking at eBay costs me money . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:qKJGe.11118$oZ.9108@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Bear in mind that there's a difference between the VOM and a VTVM. A VOM > has the advantage of being portable and battery operated. A VTVM is the > far better choice for working with high-Z tube circuits, with its 11-meg > input impedance. My personal favorite is the RCA Sr. VoltOhmist, and I > have one that I use every day. It's sitting on top of my digital meter. > When I want accuracy I use the digital; when I want to "see" variations in > voltage or resistance, such as testing old volume controls, I use the > VTVM. You can't do that easily with a digital. > > VTVM's in good condition are plentiful. I haven't checked eBay, but I'm > sure there are several to choose from -- OR, visit your local swap meet. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "CalBubba" wrote in message > news:42e9b2b1$0$16783$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... >> I'm looking to replace a VOM that I recently trashed. I can't seem to >> find any. >> >> I'm looking for a couple of inexpensive ones: one like the little >> hand-sized ones that Radio Shack used to sell, low-tolerance, like for >> use in the car and to read power outlets. >> >> The other would be a slightly better one, suited for low-grade >> electronics work -- with enough precision so I can see the needle moving >> to tip me off to variations. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Bubba > > Article: 319971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:23:27 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Farewell to a dear friend... References: <1122211291.630476.63540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122525966.637263.237640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122673383.434240.8180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9b27c$42eb7142$4232bd6a$15205@COQUI.NET> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > PS: There was an interesting newspaper essay the other day from a New York > times writer remarking that such issues as abortion and gay rights are so > divisive because we have not arrived at any social consensus on them, but > are letting the courts make the decisions. Good point. > > NEWS FLASH ! - The Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision has declared the US Constitution as unconstitutional and cannot be enforced. Article: 319972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:35:01 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: PayPal References: <35341$42e7b743$4232bd40$30118@COQUI.NET> <5qWdnZK8YeresHXfRVn-hg@comcast.com> Message-ID: <226be$42eb73f9$4232bd6a$16144@COQUI.NET> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > You're forgetting that there /is/ no "market". Is there an alternative to > PayPal? If there is, I'd like to know about it. > > Well, there's BidPay which can go directly into the seller's account with no fees to the seller but 2.95 and up to the buyer. There is/was c2it, Citibank's venture into the market. Then there's schlepping somewhere to buy a money order or cashier's check and mailing it. Fees vary. Then there's a bank-to-bank wire transfer which at my bank is $20 for outgoing and $10 for incoming. There's Western Union and Moneygram where the seller can go pick up his payment at a supermarket on the other side of town. Then there's the mailing cash option. Should you choose to register the mail for assurance, that service can be purchased for a few bucks. There's UPS COD service. You can haggle with fresh eggs or farm animals. Of course there are alternatives. None of them are particularly good. -Bill Article: 319973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: Gilfillan console (not mine) From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:40:45 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >Here is a real interesting console... a rare west coast brand, PLUS , check >out the side grilles! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/1930s-Gilfillan-Floor-Model-Radio-Short-wave-AM-8-Tube_W0 QQitemZ6549403704QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >Mark Oppat > > > So what is the connection between Gilfillan and Setchell-Carlson?.. Just finished up this Setchell-Carlson table radio... it was a battery 6 volt powered arrangement.. one I never found exact correct information on the model number or schematic... The Bezel Plate around the Dial .... is ONE PERFECT match to this Gilfillan Console .... John k9uwa Article: 319974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Lamp for Wards Airline "Movie Dial" radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <9bLFe.20129$bG4.411@fe06.lga> <1122581057.821601.38370@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122676875.306856.3720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:47:32 GMT In article , dave@mcclellans.com says... > > >Yes, the #81 will work. > >However, I was not able to get correct focus all across the screen, and the > >Dave Wonder if it is like the Philco Shadow meters where they tell you that the filament in the bulb has to be aimed in the correct direction? That will effect considerably the focus.... will do nothing for the brightness of the display. John k9uwa Article: 319975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: PayPal From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <19825$42e73d6c$4232bd8d$1602@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <7RKGe.223140$nG6.64328@attbi_s22> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:59:47 GMT In article , spsfnospamfan@verizon.net says... > > >But Walmart has a lot more profits to offset the loss. > >DAve Well Walmart has a much of course bigger number.... but thats not a fair comparison.. you would have to look at the actual precentage of sales that have a problem of chargeback... or loss due to phoney money or phoney credit cards etc... as for actual percentage of profit... I think that the average joe doe FleaBayer probably makes a larger percentage profit than Walmart does.. not talking about the guy that just wants to sell a couple of his radios or widgets now and then... I am talking about the people that make a business out of buying stuff... all sorts of stuff from various sources locally and reselling it on Fleabay ... John k9uwa Article: 319976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Remember this Zenith 9s262? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122695602.717122.32820@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1122724996.580051.52520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4WKGe.223179$xm3.107273@attbi_s21> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:05:04 GMT In article <1122724996.580051.52520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, garyb@citicom.com says... > > >Thanks Ken. Would you know if you can remove glued down veneer with >heat as well? > Yup Gary it works..... Jean bought an extra cheap iron just for playing with the veneer... wouldn't use her regular iron and don't use your wife's on it.... or you will be in the doghouse.. John k9uwa Article: 319977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: Relica aluminum grill for Deluxe radio Message-ID: <2uMGe.847$EX5.479@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:51:42 GMT I considered laser and water jet cutting first but was told they are more expensive for setup. The chemical etching will work with artwork, as it is a photographic process. But I'll get some quotes to check them out. We have a mechanical design department where I work, but they do not have tools to convert artwork directly to CAD. That conversion will cost a lot to do professionally. "Robert Sherrod" wrote in message news:flzGe.195199$x96.43764@attbi_s72... > Robert, > > Cheaper yet would be a company with a laser cutter and a system to input > the necessary data into the cutter. It wouldn't take much to measure and > model the part in a CAD program, which then could be output into a laser > cutter. > > I am a CAD technician and I work for a company that provides engineering > support to companies such as John Deere and Caterpillar. John Deere > Harvester works in nearby East Moline, Illinois laser cuts sheet metal > parts directly from the flat pattern in the 3D model file. > > It would be worth a look. > > Later, > > Bobby > > Robert Murrell wrote: >> I have a deco Deluxe radio with an aluminum grill. The grill was made >> with very thin aluminum. Of the few of these radio I've seen, all had >> bent grills. I found a place that uses chemical etching to cut intricate >> holes in sheet metal. The setup costs $200-$300 and each item is a few >> dollars after that. I was thinking I could have 10 made up for $30 -$35 >> a piece. The problem is, could I recoup my costs by selling them? Does >> anyone else have this radio and need a new grill? I posted a picture on >> the binaries group. >> Article: 319978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: 'best match' of impedance? Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 09:41:34 -0600 Message-ID: i just thought i would toss this out as a theoretical case for discussion... given that i have an amp which has several taps on the output transformer, allowing a selection of 4,8, and 16 ohms (amongst others). and i want to buy a speaker. and that particular speaker can be found in 4,8, and 16 ohm flavors. same speaker, just different impedances... now i know its best to match impedances, i.e. if i configure the amp for 4 ohms, i should use a 4 ohm speaker.... but is there any 'best match'? if you can choose the impedance, is there any reason to choose 16 vs 8 vs 4 ohms? my gut feeling is that a higher impedance is better, but i cant give any particularly good reason why. all comments welcome. thx randy Article: 319979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Seeburg Voice" Subject: FA: The Seeburg Voice - January 1952 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:48:22 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6196968692 Article: 319980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: 'best match' of impedance? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:53:45 GMT I'm assuming this is a home unit. Most home speakers are 8 ohms; so why change it? If you happen to do things like connecting two speakers to each output, move the tap to 4 ohms. Otherwise keep it at 8. There are a couple of reason why you might want to change the speaker impedance. In automobiles where you have only 12 volts to work with, you only get about 6 watts RMS into 4 ohms. You can bridge amps together, as with many modern stereos, but in all cases you get a lot more power when using 4 ohms as opposed to 8. Also 2 ohms, assuming the amp is designed for it, can allow for even more power, but the "standard" is presently 4 ohms. When running speaker wire for long distances, you'll get loss from the resistance in the wiring to the speakers. I frequently set up long speaker lines at car shows, and still use 8 ohms, but if the loss were more critical you might want to go with 16 ohms -- and find speakers to match. Aside from these extremes, the best all-around is 8 ohms. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "xrongor" wrote in message news:dcg73e$dcdv$1@news3.infoave.net... >i just thought i would toss this out as a theoretical case for >discussion... > > given that i have an amp which has several taps on the output transformer, > allowing a selection of 4,8, and 16 ohms (amongst others). and i want to > buy a speaker. and that particular speaker can be found in 4,8, and 16 > ohm flavors. same speaker, just different impedances... > > now i know its best to match impedances, i.e. if i configure the amp for 4 > ohms, i should use a 4 ohm speaker.... > > but is there any 'best match'? if you can choose the impedance, is there > any reason to choose 16 vs 8 vs 4 ohms? > > my gut feeling is that a higher impedance is better, but i cant give any > particularly good reason why. > > all comments welcome. > > thx > randy > Article: 319981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Antique radio used to speak with spirits Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:58:34 -0500 "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:KtzGe.6803$q23.1177526@news20.bellglobal.com... > Brother! What a story! Mind you, her feedback makes for good bedtime > reading as well... I like how one potential buyer asked "Do you think it has any bad Karma on it?" LOL!!!!! These type of people crack me up. It's like they can't help themselves. Should I or shouldn't I buy it? This thing has spiritual powers! but if I buy it! It may bring me bad luck! Gee Wizz! -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 319982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: 'best match' of impedance? Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:22:03 -0600 Message-ID: References: let me clarify a bit... i realize for a given situation, your impedance selection may be dictated by external factors. for the purpose of this discussion, im trying to eliminate all of them except impedance. im trying to isolate impedance as a factor of sound quality. so for a moment, lets just pretend that all other things are equal. the speaker wire length, voltage source, whatever else, will be dictated by the best sound for a given speakers impedance of 4,8,or 16 ohms. to give you a specific example, the one we were discussing last night... lets say you are making a guitar amp/speaker combo unit. you already have an amp and its a simple matter of switching a lug once to change impedance. you are going to buy a speaker and can set the impedance as you like given 4,8 and 16 ohm taps. you can adjust the wire length as you like. its powered by a standard 110 outlet. what you desire is the best sound. is one any better than any other or does it really matter as long as you match impedance? randy "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:doNGe.313$ns.87@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > I'm assuming this is a home unit. Most home speakers are 8 ohms; so why > change it? If you happen to do things like connecting two speakers to > each output, move the tap to 4 ohms. Otherwise keep it at 8. > > There are a couple of reason why you might want to change the speaker > impedance. In automobiles where you have only 12 volts to work with, you > only get about 6 watts RMS into 4 ohms. You can bridge amps together, as > with many modern stereos, but in all cases you get a lot more power when > using 4 ohms as opposed to 8. Also 2 ohms, assuming the amp is designed > for it, can allow for even more power, but the "standard" is presently 4 > ohms. > > When running speaker wire for long distances, you'll get loss from the > resistance in the wiring to the speakers. I frequently set up long > speaker lines at car shows, and still use 8 ohms, but if the loss were > more critical you might want to go with 16 ohms -- and find speakers to > match. > > Aside from these extremes, the best all-around is 8 ohms. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:dcg73e$dcdv$1@news3.infoave.net... >>i just thought i would toss this out as a theoretical case for >>discussion... >> >> given that i have an amp which has several taps on the output >> transformer, allowing a selection of 4,8, and 16 ohms (amongst others). >> and i want to buy a speaker. and that particular speaker can be found in >> 4,8, and 16 ohm flavors. same speaker, just different impedances... >> >> now i know its best to match impedances, i.e. if i configure the amp for >> 4 ohms, i should use a 4 ohm speaker.... >> >> but is there any 'best match'? if you can choose the impedance, is there >> any reason to choose 16 vs 8 vs 4 ohms? >> >> my gut feeling is that a higher impedance is better, but i cant give any >> particularly good reason why. >> >> all comments welcome. >> >> thx >> randy >> > > Article: 319983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: The "BEST" test equipment Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:24:49 -0600 Message-ID: <8748-42EBA9D1-219@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Me ... i am vintage and my eye tubes are getting a bit off focus but i still do ok . Article: 319984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <35341$42e7b743$4232bd40$30118@COQUI.NET> <5qWdnZK8YeresHXfRVn-hg@comcast.com> <226be$42eb73f9$4232bd6a$16144@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: PayPal Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:09:57 -0500 "-ex-" wrote in message news:226be$42eb73f9$4232bd6a$16144@COQUI.NET... > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > >> >> You're forgetting that there /is/ no "market". Is there an alternative to >> PayPal? If there is, I'd like to know about it. >> > Well, there's BidPay which can go directly into the seller's account with > no fees to the seller but 2.95 and up to the buyer. > > There is/was c2it, Citibank's venture into the market. > > Then there's schlepping somewhere to buy a money order or cashier's check > and mailing it. Fees vary. > > Then there's a bank-to-bank wire transfer which at my bank is $20 for > outgoing and $10 for incoming. > > There's Western Union and Moneygram where the seller can go pick up his > payment at a supermarket on the other side of town. > > Then there's the mailing cash option. Should you choose to register the > mail for assurance, that service can be purchased for a few bucks. > > There's UPS COD service. > > You can haggle with fresh eggs or farm animals. > > Of course there are alternatives. None of them are particularly good. > > > -Bill Well Bill, I think this horse is dead. Time to find another. lol -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 319985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Antenna in the attic Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:29:27 GMT Since my new workshop is in the basement, I'm thinking of stringing a wire >from one end of the attic (unfinished) to the other end to use as an antenna. I was thinking of using RG-6u to reach the attic from my workshop, about a 50' run. The antenna will be about 35' long. My questions: 1. Should I ground the coax shield at the attic or basement? 2. Is 50' of coax too long of a run for a 35' antenna? 3. Should I connect to the end of the antenna wire or the middle with the coax? 4. There is romex running along the ridge of my attic for lights, how far away do I have to be from it so that it won't affect my reception? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios From adouglasatgis.net Sun Aug 7 01:24:07 EDT 2005 Article: 319986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: The "BEST" test equipment Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:09:15 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <8748-42EBA9D1-219@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-725.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319986 Hi, There have been a lot of discussions in the Forum on this subject over the past year or two. Probably the easiest way to find them is to use Google's "Advanced Search" and specify the antiqueradios.com domain. But the "test equipment" section is small enough that you could list all the thread titles for the past couple of years and simply click on the ones of interest. The only topic you'll find unmanageable is the tube tester discussions, because there are so may of them, and everyone has his own idea of "best." Actually your 747 and Precision make a pretty good combo. 73, Alan Article: 319987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42EBBD1F.61962936@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 'best match' of impedance? References: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:47:40 GMT xrongor wrote: > > i just thought i would toss this out as a theoretical case for discussion... > > given that i have an amp which has several taps on the output transformer, > allowing a selection of 4,8, and 16 ohms (amongst others). and i want to > buy a speaker. and that particular speaker can be found in 4,8, and 16 ohm > flavors. same speaker, just different impedances... > > now i know its best to match impedances, i.e. if i configure the amp for 4 > ohms, i should use a 4 ohm speaker.... > > but is there any 'best match'? if you can choose the impedance, is there > any reason to choose 16 vs 8 vs 4 ohms? > > my gut feeling is that a higher impedance is better, but i cant give any > particularly good reason why. > > all comments welcome. > > thx > randy For a given source impedance, the higher the load impedance, the lower the current flow, so a 16 ohm speaker on a 8 or 4 ohm output will not give you the rated output power. remember that you don't want to run tube amps very hard into a bad match or you can damage the tube, or tubes. When you play the constant voltage game, you run the amp at reduced power, unless the total wattage of the load is close to the rating for the amp. For instance, the 25 volt school intercoms use a small amp for the intercom function to improve matching, rather than one of the high power amps used for paging or emergency use. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Yuck !!! Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:49:42 -0600 Message-ID: Just came from an auction where they had "over 25 old wood cased radio's to sell as a single lot". I got there, took one look...and left. I have never seen such a bigger mess in my life. The building they were stored in had been "infested" by the owners cats. All the radio's stank to high heaven with cat urine, there was cat poop all over them and the cabinets had been used for scratching posts. I would like to buy a "lot" of radio's....but believe me...this wasn't the "lot" I was looking for. None of them were exceptional anyhow...I wouldn't even buy them for parts sets. Ben Article: 319989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: PayPal Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:46:22 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8s6dnVxsFKkYw3bfRVn-rA@comcast.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: >>That's only slightly higher than you would pay through a credit card >>merchant account. Merchant accounts charge a one time fee and a minimum >>monthly use fee on top of a SLIGHTLY lower percentage. PayPal provides >>a very reasonable service for a very reasonable percentage for those who >>can't make the total $ amount per month to make a merchant account >>viable. > > > Slightly lower? I believe merchant accounts run 1% to 1.5%. CMIIW. > > That ain't the whole story. There is a monthly minimum that has to factored in; i.e. they hit you for a minimum fee per month whether you use the merchant account to accept cards that month or not. Most of them have fairly stiff set-up fees as well. These costs are real and have to factored into the equation if you are dealing with a small number of transactions and low dollar amounts. The big guys can amortize some of the charges over thousands of transactions, so it makes more sense from a financial standpoint. I've done the numbers, and a merchant account under the best scenario comes out as being about 20%-30% more expensive than Paypal until you hit a dollar amount that is pretty awesome (over $10K per month). My original point still stands, though. The change in eBay policy is forcing some sellers who accept Paypal to take on essentially the same (or greater) risks as those who use merchant accounts, when they didn't have to before. This "buyers are confused" line of bull that they are trying to float is nothing but sugar-coated doublespeak. If eBay really wanted to stop people from using the "free" personal accounts to conduct business, it wouldn't be that hard-all they would have to do is either eliminate them entirely or ban them for the purpose of conducting eBay business. Why force people to accept a financial instrument they don't want to accept just to get a service they do want? BTW, It appears that Paypal may not have this market all to itself too much longer (AFT if true): http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/20/business/google.php Google is a formidable competitor....Enormously profitable, tons of money in the bank, and they have OWNED everyone they've taken on so far. I don't think eBay could ban a Google pay service from being used on their auction system without the DOJ anti-trust nazis stomping on their toes....... -Scott Article: 319990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42EBC544.D906F153@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The "BEST" test equipment References: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:22:25 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > Okay, I'm sure this is bound to get a thread going, and maybe even start a > flame or two -- but for my own benefit, plus that of others on the group who > might be afraid to ask . . . > > What do you consider to be the best test equipment, either new or vintage, > for working on our older equipment? > > As mentioned in an earlier thread, I was looking at a few multimeters on > eBay, and ended up purchasing a Simpson digital bench meter. I happen to > have a B&K 2831 that's old and worn out. It gets rather flaky when I press > buttons to change function. I recently opened it up to clean the switches, > and now it doesn't work at all Maybe the B&K is a good one, I don't know, > but I'd rather buy one in better condition than mess with this one anymore. > > This weekend I'll be cleaning/rearranging my bench. I'm looking at the > other "stuff" I have, and wondering if there's anything better out there I > should look for. I want reliable, easy to use, relatively small, and > relatively accurate. I'm not looking for $87,000.00 Tektronix lab equipment > that's the equivalent to buying a Rolls Royce to drive your kids to > school -- just reasonable good quality equipment. > > Here are some things I'm considering: > > I've got an RCA Sr. VoltOhmist that's a wonderful VTVM, but it is old and I > think the RX1 Ohms scale is off. I've got the lit, and it's probably worth > finding and fixing what is probably a bad resistor, but I'm curious as to > what others "swear by" in this category. I noticed some B&K VTVM's on eBay; > I remember those from school daze and as I recall they're nice -- but what > do others think? B&K or Heathkit VTVMs were used in almost every TV shop I've ever been in. They were affordable, reliable and accurate enough for service work. > I've got a Heathkit IP-17 variable voltage power supply, and a Heathkit > IG-5218 Sine/Square Audio Generator. These are here to stay, but I'm > curious as to where they rank on the food chain. As long as they do what you need and don't appear to be falling apart, I would keep them on the bench. > I have a Heathkit IM-4100 Frequency Counter. It's not that old in the > scheme of things, but they've come a long way since I put this one together. > It only goes up to 30 mHz, and that's probably all I need, but it's, well, > not the best and it's a little flaky. Any suggestions? I like the old H-P 5245L counters. They are fairly cheap, have good specs, and are still a good piece of test equipment. they go to 50 MHz without a plugin, and up to 13 GHz with the right plugin. On the other hand, if you start repairing OEM FM radios, you really need a counter that works to 150 MHz or more to troubleshoot front-end problems. > I have a Heathkit IG-102 RF Signal Generator. It's an oldie, for sure, but > it works. Seems to me those Eico generators weren't bad for what they were, > but what do y'all consider a good one? A little overkill, but the HP-8640 would cover the AM and FM frequencies, has a built in frequency display and is available at a good price in a lot of places. > Signal tracers: I've got an old tried-and-true Eico 147 that works as well > as the day I bought it (used). I've also got a newer Eico solid state > version. I'm torn between them. The newer one is smaller and doesn't need > to warm up every time I turn it on, but the 147, well, there's just > something about it. Plus I've only got one demodulator probe between them, > the one that came with the 147. Comments? Extra probes? Probes are not hard to make, and it never hurts to have a spare on the shelf as cheap insurance. > Capacitance Bridge. Eico 950B. Something about Eico, they're cheap, they > work, and there's no BS. I've got some handheld devices that check caps, > but don't do the leak tests like this one. The only thing I don't like > about it is that it's big, and doesn't fit on the bench with all the other > stuff. Still, it works, what can you say? Ideas? I use a digital meter to check caps, and I have the Dick Smith ESR meter as well. I lost my Sprague TO-6 capacitor analyzer that I used to test for leakage, but you can build a simple test fixture for that test with a variable high voltage power supply, some resistors, diodes and one of your voltmeters. > I've also got a couple tube testers, a B&K 747 and an older Precision model > that tests the older tubes that the 747 doesn't do. Around here I hear the > name Hickok a lot, there's a 539 and a 6000. Is one better than the other, > or newer? These things are also floating around on eBay, if it's worth it I > may spring for one. Do they teat all the tubes you run into? If so, you're pretty well set. > Oscilloscope: Yes I have a (cringe) Hewlett-Packard dual trace 100mHz. I > like it; everybody else hates HP's. I don't use it much and it works for > me, so please concentrate your comments on the other stuff. :-) the problem with H-P scopes is triggering on a narrow pulse. You are working with sine waves, so it won't bother you. You could use a little more bandwidth for FM, but a decent homebrew FET probe would let you work in a FM front end without detuning it. Comical FET probes are usually out of the question because the manufacturers want you to think that they are hand carved out of solid gold bars and wired with hand drawn platinum wire. ;-) > Yes, it's a long message, and sure to get replies. Still, I'm open for > comments as to how to improve this bench -- and yes, I might need to replace > the bench itself. Gary, a local "Habitat for Humanity" thrift store had a three foot high stack of 4' * 8' sheets of particle board with black Formica on one side for $5 a sheet the other day. I am trying to borrow a big trailer to pick up five sheets to make new tops for a couple benches, and to build a large computer desk that will hold up to seven complete computer systems at the same time to make repairing them for my veterans program a lot easier. The design is "U" shaped with one fixed station at the end and three work stations down each side so I can spin my chair around and roll back and forth while I work on them. > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: PHILCO 37-604 Dial lamp Question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:55:11 -0400 If someone out there has one of these, I'd like to know how effective the 'Glowing Beam Indicator' is that indicates tuning. In normal room light I can hardly see the beam, even when I put a full 6vac on the #47 bulb. I'm using a new Rock-Sea dial scale, but the orig is just as bad or worse. Is this normal for this set? BTW, there's one on eBay now. Ken Article: 319992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1122748267.807181.115520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yuck !!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:12:11 -0500 wrote in message news:1122748267.807181.115520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >I wonder how those radios will turn up description wise on Ebay? How > about "stored carefully but forgotten" or "our dear departed kitty > loved this radio?" You know they'll end up there. > Hey Ben what town are they in so if they turn up on Ebay we can keep track of the natorious cat shit radios. Or try to? ;) -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 319993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1122748267.807181.115520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yuck !!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:36:23 GMT I recall seeing an old set on eBay with a very large and obvious mouse nest inside made of some fluffy white stuff. The lady who listed it turned the problem into an asset by saying the radio was complete with its "original insulation". I wonder how this creative seller would describe cat excrement? -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1122748267.807181.115520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >I wonder how those radios will turn up description wise on Ebay? How > about "stored carefully but forgotten" or "our dear departed kitty > loved this radio?" You know they'll end up there. > Article: 319994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Yuck !!! References: <1122748267.807181.115520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:43:55 GMT Mike Schultz wrote: > I wonder how this creative seller would describe cat > excrement? "Vitamine S Kitty Bon bon treats for your Dog." Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42EBE769.30108@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: A different signal tracer Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:49:00 GMT I recently bought this on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7528307836 The schematic for it was available on BAMA. ftp://bama.sbc.edu/downloads/nri/ Now, to look at it, you would assume, as I did, "Oh boy, it has a built in signal generator!" Nope. That's a 4 band TRF receiver. The Audio probe works as expected. Touch probe, listen to the buzz. The RF probe, on the other hand, is really the signal input to a two stage tuned RF receiver. The Audio pre-amp tube also has a pair of diodes in it as an AM detector. A nice quite afternoon project re-capping it and putting an IEEC power connector on the back, and now I have yet another vintage, but usuable, piece of test equipment for the shop. I think I'll take it into work and amaze people by using it to test Motorola GP300 Hand helds. It works quite well on narrow band FM as a slope detector. Think of it as one of the original "Service Monitors." Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" Subject: Sony LVO 7000 ?? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:04:37 GMT I've found several Sony LVO 7000 3/4" video tape machines in storage, supposedly new and still in its vinyl wrap. I can't find much googling. Do these things have any value? tnx -- 73 Hank WD5JFR Article: 319997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: PayPal References: <35341$42e7b743$4232bd40$30118@COQUI.NET> <5qWdnZK8YeresHXfRVn-hg@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:33:00 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: >>>No, it's called a market economy. And I see little distinction between >>>charging what you like and what the market will bear. > > >>Okay, here's an example. I'd like to get $2,000 for a pair of used 6V6G >>tubes. But the market will only bear $10. > > > > > You're forgetting that there /is/ no "market". Is there an alternative to > PayPal? If there is, I'd like to know about it. > > Well, there's bidpay (or their used to be anyway). There's a real merchant account, which a lot of Ebay sellers use. There are checks, money orders, cash in the mail, egold if they are still around. There are even alternative auction sites. There's no exact alternative, but if there was money to be made competing, someone would get into the act. But the dissatisfaction with Paypal fees and policies doesn't appear great enough for anyone else to bother trying. You don't have to use the Post Office, either, but FedEx is a mighty expensive alternative. Regards, DAve Article: 319998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: newbieguy Subject: Philco 52 - 940, worth restoring? Message-ID: <95une1t5c6c53m3vp17dcfuu6quhjslcmk@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:06:22 GMT I am about to come in possesion of a Philco 52-940 AM radio that was originally my grandparents. My mom says it still works but has a hum and seems very prone to appliance and other interferance (I assume she means worse then normal for am). Was this a nice radio in it's time compared to what was out there? Is it worth/easily restorable? It would be nice to get it in fine working order as it would have sentimental value to me. I recall hearing it many years ago and I thought it had a nice sound, probably due to the big speaker compared to today's tabletop radios. Article: 319999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Radio collector Dick Desjarlais makes the paper Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:20:14 GMT Radio collector Dick Desjarlais makes the paper. http://www2.townonline.com/littleton/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=292842 It's a nice write-up. Ron Article: 320000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: SWEET!!!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:30:12 -0500 Ahh!! Its so refreshing to see a quality finish job. http://cgi.ebay.com/Chic-Not-Shabby-Vintage-Look-HP-Radio-SOOO-PRETTY_W0QQitemZ6548450077QQcategoryZ932QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 320001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <42EBE769.30108@socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: A different signal tracer Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:31:01 -0400 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:42EBE769.30108@socal.rr.com... > I recently bought this on eBay. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7528307836 > > The schematic for it was available on BAMA. > ftp://bama.sbc.edu/downloads/nri/ > > Now, to look at it, you would assume, as I did, "Oh boy, it > has a built in signal generator!" > > Nope. That's a 4 band TRF receiver. > > The Audio probe works as expected. Touch probe, listen to > the buzz. > > The RF probe, on the other hand, is really the signal input > to a two stage tuned RF receiver. The Audio pre-amp tube > also has a pair of diodes in it as an AM detector. > > A nice quite afternoon project re-capping it and putting an > IEEC power connector on the back, and now I have yet another > vintage, but usuable, piece of test equipment for the shop. > > I think I'll take it into work and amaze people by using it > to test Motorola GP300 Hand helds. It works quite well on > narrow band FM as a slope detector. > > Think of it as one of the original "Service Monitors." > > Jeff > > Hey Jeff! Someone posted a link to a similar unit a few months back. I haven't seen many tracers that had tunable preselection; and I think it is a neat feature! That's a sharp looking unit, and a real boatanchor for the test bench. I bought a Hickok Indicating Trace-o-meter from Alan D., a bit larger and fancier, it uses meters instead of eye tubes. Pete Article: 320002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: PayPal Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:43:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: <35341$42e7b743$4232bd40$30118@COQUI.NET> <5qWdnZK8YeresHXfRVn-hg@comcast.com> "DaveW" wrote in message news:gmSGe.2957$Bx5.2448@trnddc09... > William Sommerwerck wrote: > >>>No, it's called a market economy. And I see little distinction between > >>>charging what you like and what the market will bear. > > > > > >>Okay, here's an example. I'd like to get $2,000 for a pair of used 6V6G > >>tubes. But the market will only bear $10. > > > > > > > > > > You're forgetting that there /is/ no "market". Is there an alternative to > > PayPal? If there is, I'd like to know about it. > > > > > > Well, there's bidpay (or their used to be anyway). There's a real > merchant account, which a lot of Ebay sellers use. There are checks, > money orders, cash in the mail, egold if they are still around. There > are even alternative auction sites. There's no exact alternative, but if > there was money to be made competing, someone would get into the act. > But the dissatisfaction with Paypal fees and policies doesn't appear > great enough for anyone else to bother trying. > There's $%@@&^! Hyperwallet.... but if you think PayPal is bad, don't even think about those guys.. takes an act of God to get your money out of them.. Article: 320003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Sony LVO 7000 ?? Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:48:05 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message news:FXRGe.2901$PC7.1621@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > I've found several Sony LVO 7000 3/4" video tape machines in storage, > supposedly new and still in its vinyl wrap. I can't find much googling. Do > these things have any value? > tnx > Last I saw anything like that, it was going for around $50. They'll be just about totally worthless in the next 3 years. Article: 320004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:58:40 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: The "BEST" test equipment References: Message-ID: Gary Tayman wrote: > > Yes, it's a long message, and sure to get replies. Still, I'm open for > comments as to how to improve this bench -- and yes, I might need to replace > the bench itself. > Gary, since you do a lot of monkeying with the LC stuff in car radios I'm surprised you didn't mention an LC meter like the AADE one. I like messing around with homebrew stuff and its a real treat...not a necessity, of course, but certainly worth having around when you're re-engineering tuned circuits. -Bill Article: 320005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: Antenna in the attic References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:14:35 GMT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090607070908020400050704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gb wrote: >"Jon" wrote in message >news:XNOGe.656$0m1.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > >>Since my new workshop is in the basement, I'm thinking of stringing a wire >>from one end of the attic (unfinished) to the other end to use as an >>antenna. I was thinking of using RG-6/U (72 ohm) to reach the attic from >>my workshop, about a 50' run. The antenna will be about 35' long. >> >> > >Dipole with total length of 35 feet? >A dipole of that length is resonant at the 10 meter band (28 - 30 MHz). >Standard dipole impedance is 72 ohms (so RG-6/U is a good match. >Are you suing this antenna just to receive (not transmit)? ... what >frequencies are you wanting to receiver? directional or omni-directional? > > 35 feet would be 1/2 wave at the resonant frequency or closer to 20 meter wave length. Bill K7NOM >IF you desire this for FM broadcast band -- then shortening the antenna >would be better - or build a folder dipole (300 ohms) and then use a 300 / >75 ohm balun at your center feedpoint. Also a goof FM yagi would fit that >space - as well. > > > >>My questions: >> >>1. Should I ground the coax shield at the attic or basement? >> >> > >I would ground the shield at that basement -- closer to your ground (ground >rod, etc.). > > > >>2. Is 50' of coax too long of a run for a 35' antenna? >> >> > >No, not really. Good dual or quad shielded RG-6/U has low loss >characteristics. > > > >>3. Should I connect to the end of the antenna wire or the middle with the >>coax? >> >> > >Center of antenna -- Dipole (read above). The center insulator is easy to >build. > > > >>4. There is Romex running along the ridge of my attic for lights, how far >>away do I have to be from it so that it won't affect my reception? >> >> > >Ideally you really want to be perpendicular to that cable run. If it is >truly at the ridge of the attic --- I would move down one side of the attic >wall (underside of roof) at least 2 feet. That should be sufficient -- same >distance as stud spacing between low voltage and electrical wiring runs in >most homes. > > >>-- >>Jon Scaptura >>Endicott, NY >> >>See my antique radios here: >>http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios >> >> > > > > --------------090607070908020400050704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gb wrote:
"Jon" <jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com> wrote in message 
news:XNOGe.656$0m1.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
  
Since my new workshop is in the basement, I'm thinking of stringing a wire 
>from one end of the attic (unfinished) to the other end to use as an 
antenna. I was thinking of using RG-6/U (72 ohm) to reach the attic from 
my workshop, about a 50' run. The antenna will be about 35'  long.
    

Dipole with total length of 35 feet?
A dipole of that length is resonant at the 10 meter band (28 - 30 MHz).
Standard dipole impedance is 72 ohms (so RG-6/U is a good match.
Are you suing this antenna just to receive (not transmit)? ... what 
frequencies are you wanting to receiver?  directional or omni-directional?
  
35 feet would be 1/2 wave at the resonant frequency or closer to 20 meter wave length.

Bill K7NOM
IF you desire this for FM broadcast band -- then shortening the antenna 
would be better - or build a folder dipole (300 ohms) and then use a 300 / 
75 ohm balun at your center feedpoint.  Also a goof FM yagi would fit that 
space - as well.

  
My questions:

1. Should I ground the coax shield at the attic or basement?
    

I would ground the shield at that basement -- closer to your ground (ground 
rod, etc.).

  
2. Is 50' of coax too long of a run for a 35' antenna?
    

No, not really.  Good dual or quad shielded RG-6/U has low loss 
characteristics.

  
3. Should I connect to the end of the antenna wire or the middle with the 
coax?
    

Center of antenna -- Dipole (read above).  The center insulator is easy to 
build.

  
4. There is Romex running along the ridge of my attic for lights, how far 
away do I have to be from it so that it won't affect my reception?
    

Ideally you really want to be perpendicular to that cable run.  If it is 
truly at the ridge of the attic --- I would move down one side of the attic 
wall (underside of roof) at least 2 feet.  That should be sufficient -- same 
distance as stud spacing between low voltage and electrical wiring runs in 
most homes.
  
-- 
Jon Scaptura
Endicott, NY

See my antique radios here:
http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios
    


  

--------------090607070908020400050704-- Article: 320006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42EC0BDE.FEF3F2B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 'best match' of impedance? References: <42EBBD1F.61962936@earthlink.net> <5d-dnSPEUdCwnnHfRVn-tA@comcast.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:23:42 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > Mike, 25v is obsolete for distro speaker systems, 70v replaced it in the > 60's. > > BTW... anyone here know why 70v??? > > ANSWER: 70v is the RMS of 100v peak, which is what the electrical code > says is max for "unprotected wiring" in a commercial building (ie, speaker > wire, doorbell, etc) so it doesnt require conduit... a greater expense. > > Mark Oppat Mark, I serviced school intercoms for a living till the mid '80s and they were still required to use 25 volt wiring by code. I had to use conduit and bolt down speakers that were used on 70 volt systems. They had to be mounted high enough that you had to have a ladder to work on them, or they didn't pass state and county inspection, not to mention OSHA's inspection. Most of the systems were paid for by the state when a new school was built, and they set the specifications based on the NEC. If you visit the Dukane website you will find they still use 25 volt wiring in their school products. The only places I used 70 volt wiring was in factories where it was easy to run the EMT, since PVC conduit wasn't allowed. I did this work >from h '60s through the '80s as my main income. Three school systems, dozens of factories and churches under contract along with a bunch of restaurants and night clubs. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 320007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: PHILCO 37-604 Dial lamp Question References: <2oGdne6aKcO8nXHfRVn-ow@comcast.com> Message-ID: <50UGe.288$ah4.259@lakeread05> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:25:47 -0400 Mark, have you ever seen one of these sets in operation? If so, how well could you see the vertical beam? The repro is good, but the beam gets washed out by the surrounding light coming through the original opaque filter with the slots. Trouble is, that light is needed to see the station frequency in a dark room. I have a feeling this was not a great tuning scheme in it's day, I can't see any way to improve it in it's present state. Ken Mark Oppat wrote: > The repro dials I sell are the original Clint Blais repros, which allow the > correct amount of light to pass thru. The original dials sometimes fade > quite bit. I will bet you would like my repros! > > You are can use a #44 dial for greater brightness... but a 47 should work. > > Mark Oppat > Antique Audio > > "Ken" wrote in message news:t2QGe.283$ah4.109@lakeread05... > >>If someone out there has one of these, I'd like to know how effective >>the 'Glowing Beam Indicator' is that indicates tuning. In normal room >>light I can hardly see the beam, even when I put a full 6vac on the #47 >>bulb. I'm using a new Rock-Sea dial scale, but the orig is just as bad >>or worse. Is this normal for this set? BTW, there's one on eBay now. Ken >> >> > > > > Article: 320008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Antenna in the attic Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:39:35 GMT "gb" wrote in message news:QMOdnScondwUmHHfRVn-qQ@comcast.com... > "Jon" wrote in message > news:XNOGe.656$0m1.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> > > Dipole with total length of 35 feet? > A dipole of that length is resonant at the 10 meter band (28 - 30 MHz). > Standard dipole impedance is 72 ohms (so RG-6/U is a good match. > Are you suing this antenna just to receive (not transmit)? ... what > frequencies are you wanting to receiver? directional or omni-directional? My attic is 35' end to end, so if it were a solid piece of wire, it would be 35' minus the insulator length. I'm mainly looking for generic BC and SW reception on the radio I am working on at the time. > > IF you desire this for FM broadcast band -- then shortening the antenna > would be better - or build a folder dipole (300 ohms) and then use a 300 / > 75 ohm balun at your center feedpoint. Also a goof FM yagi would fit that > space - as well. > I have a VHF antenna in my garage attic already, but it's not connected. I just bought the house - so I haven't had time to look at it closely. It is aimed, along with a set of UHF antennas, in the direction of most of the local TV and FM sticks. I noticed that it has a 300 ohm lead coiled up with it in the rafters. Would it be better for me to put a matching transformer up there and bring the signals in via coax - 1 for UHF and 1 for VHF, or pehaps combined into a single coax lead, or bring it in on the 300 ohm lead with the transformer on the set? >> 3. Should I connect to the end of the antenna wire or the middle with the >> coax? > > Center of antenna -- Dipole (read above). The center insulator is easy to > build. > Can you point me towards a plan or diagram on the optimal setup? Thanks again, -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 320009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <95une1t5c6c53m3vp17dcfuu6quhjslcmk@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Philco 52 - 940, worth restoring? Message-ID: <4lUGe.6352$_R1.1218@fe11.lga> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:48:32 -0400 "newbieguy" wrote in message news:95une1t5c6c53m3vp17dcfuu6quhjslcmk@4ax.com... >I am about to come in possesion of a Philco 52-940 AM radio that was > originally my grandparents. My mom says it still works but has a hum > and seems very prone to appliance and other interferance (I assume she > means worse then normal for am). Was this a nice radio in it's time > compared to what was out there? Is it worth/easily restorable? It > would be nice to get it in fine working order as it would have > sentimental value to me. I recall hearing it many years ago and I > thought it had a nice sound, probably due to the big speaker compared > to today's tabletop radios. I agree with GB. It was your Grandparents! Fix it up and keep it as a family piece. That model is not that hard to get in top shape. The dial faces up so it may have some wear but it can be done. The electronics should be no problem. Tom Article: 320010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: SWEET!!!! References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:01:56 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > Ahh!! Its so refreshing to see a quality finish job. Other than obviously NOT the original color scheme, it's a nice job. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: A different signal tracer References: <42EBE769.30108@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:06:38 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > Hey Jeff! > > Someone posted a link to a similar unit a few months back. > I haven't seen many tracers that had tunable preselection; > and I think it is a neat feature! That's a sharp looking unit, > and a real boatanchor for the test bench. Yeah, it was one of the dreaded evil eBay teasers that show up here. It worked. I bought it. Parcel post misplaced it for almost 4 weeks before it showed up in the mail. > I bought a Hickok Indicating Trace-o-meter from Alan D., > a bit larger and fancier, it uses meters instead of eye > tubes. Those are nice. especially when it comes to the "Mine is bigger than yours" factor on the test bench. ;-) Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: SWEET!!!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:11:16 -0500 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:UxUGe.33659$aA5.2544@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Brian Hill wrote: > >> Ahh!! Its so refreshing to see a quality finish job. > > Other than obviously NOT the original color scheme, > it's a nice job. > > Jeff It is perty aint it? lol Article: 320013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: SWEET!!!! References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:22:44 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote: >> >>Other than obviously NOT the original color scheme, >>it's a nice job. > > It is perty aint it? lol My point exactly. It's NOT like that kitchen table AA5 that had the plaid contact paper and pictures of chickens cut out of a magazine glued to it. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: SWEET!!!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:35:58 -0500 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:oRUGe.33661$aA5.30289@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Brian Hill wrote: >> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote: >>> >>>Other than obviously NOT the original color scheme, >>>it's a nice job. >> >> It is perty aint it? lol > > My point exactly. It's NOT like that kitchen table AA5 > that had the plaid contact paper and pictures of chickens > cut out of a magazine glued to it. > > Jeff Yea the chicken one was a real disaster. Hey check this one out Jeff. Your gonna love it. http://cgi.ebay.com/Unique-Vintage-Folk-Radio-Outsider-Art_W0QQitemZ6548937638QQcategoryZ933QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 320015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: newbieguy Subject: Re: Philco 52 - 940, worth restoring? Message-ID: References: <95une1t5c6c53m3vp17dcfuu6quhjslcmk@4ax.com> <4lUGe.6352$_R1.1218@fe11.lga> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:38:44 GMT Thanks guys. There is a local shop that I believe does restorations. I'll have to get a price quote. If under a hundred then I may let them do it. I work in electronics and not afraid to use a soldering iron so I suppose I could do it myself when I find out what has to be done (you can buy new tubes for the radio?). Also I was looking at a manual I found for it and they talk about adjusting either trim caps or pots. If I do myself I don't have the equipment such as a signal generator or whatever else is required, I could only replace parts. Also what makes me nervous is that I've read horror stories of the chassis becoming live in plugged in backwards. I assume these radios don't have one prong wider then the other. I would like to prevent any chance of that happening. Cosmetically I believe the unit is in good condition. Ma says grampa used to pound his fist and swear up and down as he listened to the Red Sox in the 50s and 60s with that radio. I'm curious of how it stacks up with other's in it's class. I've read the better ones have an isolation transformer. On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:48:32 -0400, "Tom Biasi" wrote: > >"newbieguy" wrote in message >news:95une1t5c6c53m3vp17dcfuu6quhjslcmk@4ax.com... >>I am about to come in possesion of a Philco 52-940 AM radio that was >> originally my grandparents. My mom says it still works but has a hum >> and seems very prone to appliance and other interferance (I assume she >> means worse then normal for am). Was this a nice radio in it's time >> compared to what was out there? Is it worth/easily restorable? It >> would be nice to get it in fine working order as it would have >> sentimental value to me. I recall hearing it many years ago and I >> thought it had a nice sound, probably due to the big speaker compared >> to today's tabletop radios. > >I agree with GB. >It was your Grandparents! >Fix it up and keep it as a family piece. That model is not that hard to get >in top shape. The dial faces up so it may have some wear but it can be done. >The electronics should be no problem. >Tom > Article: 320016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: my sick kitty....help! Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:52:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: > This all seemed to come on suddenly. We were out for 4 days and left them > food and water as we have in the past, with no problems. This cat likes > to > drink from the bathroom faucet, sometimes several times a day, like > whenever either of us go in there she'll ask for the water on a little. > Could our abscence have kept her from drinking and started this??? > > So, my question is... any cat owners in our group here that have had this > condition, and what can you tell us??? > I have looked at several websites with no great ideas... > > > Mark Oppat (and Leann...) Mark (and Leann), My wife and I have had the same cat for over 18 years now. I remember once...about 10 years ago...that would have made the cat 8 then...she got sick as a dog (no pun intended). She wouldn't eat...got skinny as hell...looked like death warmed over...laid around, and was limp as a dish rag when you picked her up. We took her to the vet. After almost 1,000 bucks of work on her...the vet couldn't find a damn thing wrong, so he said...just let her die. We took her home...pampered her and waited for the end. It didn't happen. After about a week of waiting for her to die...she started getting well. That was 10 years ago and she's still going strong. I don't know what was wrong with her...we never did find out...but it all turned out okay in the end. Keep the faith buddy. Ben Article: 320017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: SWEET!!!! Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:55:05 -0600 Message-ID: References: > Yea the chicken one was a real disaster. Hey check this one out Jeff. Your > gonna love it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Unique-Vintage-Folk-Radio-Outsider-Art_W0QQitemZ6548937638QQcategoryZ933QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > -- > 73 and good DX. B.H. > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > Good God Brian...how do you find these things ??? Ben Article: 320018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: my sick kitty....help! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:00:22 -0500 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:e8qdnaytOtg6gXHfRVn-1A@comcast.com... > This is VERY off topic, but we have two cats. One has taken very ill... > a > 7 year old "russian blue"., the friendliest cat ever, and we really love > her dearly. Normally she is all over and super active... she watches TV > with us, sleeps in our bed, etc and is very vocal. > > But now she wont eat or drink at ALL, and hid in the closet starting > Wednesday morning. We took her in, had blood test done, neg for Feline > Leukemia. Xrays seemed to show a small liver and bloated stomach... but > really an ultrasound would be needed to see that.... and, we havent done > that and arent sure if we will because, well, what can you do if it shows > a > bad liver anyways. The vet had no real ideas...gave her antibiotics and > said shoot some mush food into her mouth and water, which we are doing... > which she seems to keep down but its not much food or water compared to > her > usual. She is a 12 lb , normally strong cat. > > Both our cats are house and yard cats... they dont wander out, and neither > are hunters AT ALL... this cat in question did get out the other night as > she has occassionally, but never has had any fights. (has all claws).. she > stays very close. Both cats are female and fixed. > > Most cats we've had were elderly when they had similar apparent organ > failures, or feline leukemia, so they were put down... but, this is > really > a GREAT cat, a close personal friend...she would come in my shop and say > "hi" at night...never damaged anything... would sit on one of the knob > bins > and watch.... > :( > This all seemed to come on suddenly. We were out for 4 days and left them > food and water as we have in the past, with no problems. This cat likes > to > drink from the bathroom faucet, sometimes several times a day, like > whenever either of us go in there she'll ask for the water on a little. > Could our abscence have kept her from drinking and started this??? > > So, my question is... any cat owners in our group here that have had this > condition, and what can you tell us??? > I have looked at several websites with no great ideas... > > > Mark Oppat (and Leann...) > > > I wish I could help ya Mark. I just spent $100 on the kids cat ( had a virus) now it ran off with its mother and the other kittens. No where to be found. Cats! good luck Mark. B.H. Article: 320019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: SWEET!!!! Message-ID: <5qVGe.1330$4F5.192@fe06.lga> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:01:54 -0500 "Benjamaniac" wrote in message > Good God Brian...how do you find these things ??? > Ben > Just a little talent of mine ;) B.H. Article: 320020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <95une1t5c6c53m3vp17dcfuu6quhjslcmk@4ax.com> <4lUGe.6352$_R1.1218@fe11.lga> Subject: Re: Philco 52 - 940, worth restoring? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:12:23 -0400 "newbieguy" wrote in message news:vv6oe1hft29vhu2ea67s7nqt745bt98b02@4ax.com... > Thanks guys. There is a local shop that I believe does restorations. > I'll have to get a price quote. If under a hundred then I may let > them do it. I work in electronics and not afraid to use a soldering > iron so I suppose I could do it myself when I find out what has to be > done (you can buy new tubes for the radio?). Also I was looking at a > manual I found for it and they talk about adjusting either trim caps > or pots. If I do myself I don't have the equipment such as a signal > generator or whatever else is required, I could only replace parts. > Also what makes me nervous is that I've read horror stories of the > chassis becoming live in plugged in backwards. I assume these radios > don't have one prong wider then the other. I would like to prevent > any chance of that happening. Cosmetically I believe the unit is in > good condition. Ma says grampa used to pound his fist and swear up > and down as he listened to the Red Sox in the 50s and 60s with that > radio. I'm curious of how it stacks up with other's in it's class. > I've read the better ones have an isolation transformer. > Hot chassis issue was the norm back then. If you have a volt meter or even a cheap test light you can avoid any problem. If you can solder, recap the unit before any power up. Visually inspect all wires, especially the power cord and replace any that are cracked and don't look safe. Yes, tubes are available. Alignment can be done using a received station if you don't have equipment. Just think of the plus of having fixed it yourself. If you really don't feel comfortable then don't do it. Tom Article: 320021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: Subject: Re: my sick kitty....help! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:33:15 GMT I'll have to agree with Ben. At the peak, we had 13 cats. They were part of our family, and we cared for them. After spending outrageous amounts of $$$'s with several vets for various problems, and getting NO answers, we now just pamper our sick kittys. More often than not, they recover on their own. A lot of good info is now available on the internet. It takes time to go through it all, but I'd suggest looking there for similar symptoms. Be patient. When one of our cats starts to show symptoms of an illness, we leave him/her in a bathroom with a warm bed, litter box, food and water. Often cats, when sick, will seek a quiet place away from home. 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