Article: 320781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: William Mutch Subject: Re: Slightly OT: WTB old 50Kv power pole insulators Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:47:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: In article , cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com says... > William Mutch wrote: > > In article , tim@panix.com says... > > > >> http://www.insulators.com > >> > > > > Link broken > > No it isn't, it works just fine. I tried it last night, and I just > clicked on it before this post. > turns out it was a campus wide portal failure here. > -Chuck > Article: 320782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: vrps swapmeet 20th anyone going? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 14:47:16 GMT "dallas vrps swapmeet is on the 20th august and i was wondering if anyone else is going.if going, i have about 30 consoles,25 battery sets ,25 horns/speakers,and about 15 tabletops to get rid of.let me know of interest so as to arrange transport. michael Article: 320783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: 45 RPM Jukebox Adapter Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:25:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1123847161.066545.113250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1123847161.066545.113250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > John, I suggest you pose your question over in > alt.collecting.juke-boxes. You'll get a quick answer there. > > Terry. Thanks, Terry. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 320784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:32:26 GMT That is good.............I remember those old Zenith radios as having quite a bit of wax on the loopstick. Also, the windings are directly around the ferrite bar vs the Grundig units that had the windings on a form that could be slid around. MW is my favorite band to listen to, especially when the band opens up to the South American stations. I have been designing and building high performance MW receivers for several years and I just got through building a couple of prototypes of my latest design. This one uses a balanced JFET input amplifier with a balanced, center-tapped loopstick that is wound with Litz wire. Sensitivity is good enough to hear regional stations from 400 miles away in the daytime. Too bad that nobody in the US makes high performance MW (AM broadcast band) radios anymore. Pete "frenchy" wrote in message news:1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This one has two 50 uf caps above the battery compartment, one on each > side, one was shorted. A new 3uf one on the volume control brought the > volume back up. The wax on the antenna bar is melted and is peeling up > (must have sat under a car seat in the sun for 20 years) but doesn't > affect the operation so I left well enough alone...Frenchy > Article: 320785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: William Mutch Subject: Re: Slightly OT: WTB old 50Kv power pole insulators Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1123855166.815800.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In article <1123855166.815800.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, shoppa@trailing-edge.com says... > > http://www.insulators.com > > Wow, this is like Antiques Roadshow taken to the nth power. I mean, > they're pretty and all, but some of the prices attached to those > pictures are enough to buy a small house. > > I suspect the OP doesn't want a collector's item, just something that > looks like a common regular insulator. > That's correct. There is a budget, but it's not large, and since we're not sure exactly what insulators were originally used we don't plan to blow the budget on them, but to try to find something appropriate at a reasonable price. > Tim. > > Article: 320786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:38:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article , "Pete KE9OA" wrote: > Too bad that nobody in the US makes high performance MW (AM broadcast band) > radios anymore. > > Pete Hello, and I seem to remember a GE AM transistor portable with a TRF front end that was advertised as a long-range radio. Never owned one, though. Car radios on the AM band always seems to out perform a portable or table radio (not using an external antenna), I've observed a significant improvement in sensitivity with handheld AM portables using a simple multiple-turn, tuned circular loop antenna having a diameter of about one foot. I've seem them for sale at hamfests. They look like a small hula hoop with a tuning knob at the top. The radio is placed in the center of the loop. The effective (capture) area of the loop results in significantly more signal than that available using only the radio's ferrite bar. Personally I don't find anything worthwhile tuning into on the MW broadcast band anymore (I'm not into MW band DXing). I'm too young to have lived through radio's "golden age" but top 40 (including DJs with their memorable personalities) and other music formats are gone along with many distinctive regional programs. English-language AM broadcasts are becoming an endangered species in metro areas. Powell Crosley's once-mighty WLW AM (700 kHz) isn't a "clear channel" anymore (damn that was a tall antenna up there in Mason, Ohio at least to one 10-year old boy). You remember and care about these things when you are past 50 ;-) Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 320787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123856363.922500.93390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:49:26 -0500 frenchy wrote: > I'm used to buying bulbs for pinballs and such which are just rated for > voltage and the amps didn't matter. Always had the idea that these > tiny neon lamps were routinely just hooked to 120 volts but didn't know > they needed dropping resistors. Was testing one of the two in this old > color tv set circuit, good thing I had bought extras to replace them in > case they were bad. One is bad now, one electrode looks like it was > hit by lightning and the bulb is cracked! I can always tell myself it > was bad to begin with : ) ....thanks...Frenchy > I had the need to install some neon indicators in a 230VAC application. I just experimented with R values until V across the neon measured about 70V or so. I don't remember what exact R value I used, but it worked fine. Regards, Raymond Article: 320788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question Message-ID: <1123873734.e3006487b1b2756c8ea34adc138ca667@teranews> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:08:46 -0700 neon bulbs, in fact any gas discharge tube has a negative resistance characteristic - look at the curves. you need about 90V to strike the light, much less to sustain - I use the bulbs as a protection device, the explode is exactly what should happen with unlimietd current. do a search for 'neon relaxation oscilator" to sww how to use 4 parts (bulb, resistor, cap, diode) to make a flashing light - this will help you understand "frenchy" wrote in message news:1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Should an NE2 lamp, when connected directly to 120 vac: > > 1. light > 2. arc and explode > > I thought it was supposed to be #1 but I was mistaken, or they are > defective bulbs. > thanks! Frenchy > Article: 320789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123856363.922500.93390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:36:10 GMT frenchy wrote: > case they were bad. One is bad now, one electrode looks like it was > hit by lightning and the bulb is cracked! I can always tell myself it > was bad to begin with : ) ....thanks...Frenchy > Depends on what version of neon bulb with base you got. Some have internal resistors, other types don't. Article: 320790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:01:05 GMT Hi John, You are right.....MW has changed quite a bit, but for a DXer such as myself this type of radio is desirable. GE does have some TRF type of portables and they are ok, but when I mention high performance, I have something else in mind. As an example, from here in northern Illinois I can hear WLW pretty easily, along with CFCO 630, KMOX 1120, WCCO 630, WJR760, WHAS 840, and a station on 1520 somewhere in southeast Missouri. This in in the daytime. This receiver can detect a signal down to 40nV when in a shield room. Of course, in the outside world this type of sensitivity isn't necessary but in a quiet aree out in the country it can be helpful. Those external loop antennas are a good thing to have around because not only do they improve signal pickup of most radios but they also provide additional RF selectivity. Believe it or not, there are still a few oldies stations around..........the ones that I can receive are CFCO 630, WGTO 910(Michigan), and some station in Kenosha Wisconsin on 1050. There are others around, but these are the daytime stations in this area. Pete "J. B. Wood" wrote in message news:wood-1208051238420001@jbw-mac.itd.nrl.navy.mil... > In article , > "Pete KE9OA" wrote: > >> Too bad that nobody in the US makes high performance MW (AM broadcast >> band) >> radios anymore. >> >> Pete > > Hello, and I seem to remember a GE AM transistor portable with a TRF front > end that was advertised as a long-range radio. Never owned one, though. > Car radios on the AM band always seems to out perform a portable or table > radio (not using an external antenna), > > I've observed a significant improvement in sensitivity with handheld AM > portables using a simple multiple-turn, tuned circular loop antenna having > a diameter of about one foot. I've seem them for sale at hamfests. They > look like a small hula hoop with a tuning knob at the top. The radio is > placed in the center of the loop. The effective (capture) area of the > loop results in significantly more signal than that available using only > the radio's ferrite bar. > > Personally I don't find anything worthwhile tuning into on the MW > broadcast band anymore (I'm not into MW band DXing). I'm too young to > have lived through radio's "golden age" but top 40 (including DJs with > their memorable personalities) and other music formats are gone along with > many distinctive regional programs. English-language AM broadcasts are > becoming an endangered species in metro areas. Powell Crosley's > once-mighty WLW AM (700 kHz) isn't a "clear channel" anymore (damn that > was a tall antenna up there in Mason, Ohio at least to one 10-year old > boy). You remember and care about these things when you are past 50 ;-) > Sincerely, > > John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil > Naval Research Laboratory > 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW > Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 320791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:15:10 -0500 Pete KE9OA wrote: > This receiver can detect a signal down to 40nV when in a shield room. 40nV????? I'm impressed. Care to share how you determined that? best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 320792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Slightly OT: WTB old 50Kv power pole insulators Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1123855166.815800.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In William Mutch writes: >In article <1123855166.815800.50040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >shoppa@trailing-edge.com says... >> > http://www.insulators.com >> >> Wow, this is like Antiques Roadshow taken to the nth power. I mean, >> they're pretty and all, but some of the prices attached to those >> pictures are enough to buy a small house. >> >> I suspect the OP doesn't want a collector's item, just something that >> looks like a common regular insulator. >> > That's correct. There is a budget, but it's not large, and since >we're not sure exactly what insulators were originally used we don't >plan to blow the budget on them, but to try to find something >appropriate at a reasonable price. Well, sure. I didn't point the site out as a hint you should use the only two known deep-purple hand-blown 60KV insulators, I pointed it out becuase it seems to be the nexus for folks who Know A Lot About Insulators. I doubt those folks think every insulator ever made is worth huge bux any more than we think every garden-variey AA5 is worth as much as a Stratosphere. Sound like a cool project, BTW. I know someone else asked if it would be possible to get some pictures. I'd be interested in seeing it, too, when you get a chance. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Klaatu Meter Revisited (Weston 525) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1123849058.140252.59590@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1123849058.140252.59590@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "electron@grapevine.net" writes: >I got it, cleaned it up and put a page together about it here: >http://www.braught.com/TestEquip/Weston525/Weston525.htm Ooooooh! *Pretty*. Nice page you put together about it. You've got to be spot-on about the heatsink idea; I'd bet the rectangular aspect is so two could be place on a projector at the same time. >Built the same year "The Day The Earth Stood Still" was released... Yup. If Gort shows up at your door you'd better give him his meter back. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Radiomania book website? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:10:34 -0400 Works for me. Ken Phil Nelson wrote: > Does anyone have a URL for Radiomania, the publisher of Mark Stein collector > books? www.radiomania.com does not seem to exist any more. Has it all been > bought or swallowed by someone else? > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 320795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question From: Larry References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:09:27 -0400 "frenchy" wrote in news:1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > 2. arc and explode > Neon is like a regulator, and actually is used as a regulator voltage reference in many old test equipments. It's an open until it causes the neon's electron shells to jump about 90V. After it has "lit", started conducting, it will try to regulate 90V across it by sharply increasing its conduction current. 90V x whatever amps is converted into heat, causing the neon gas to expand until the glass fractures....it explodes. The series resistor drops whatever voltage over 90V is applied at this instance. If you put it on the neutral side of your powerline and look at it on the scope, you'll see the part of each positive or negative sinewave peak are dropped across the resistor. The waveform across the neon is nearly a squarewave with the slope of the sinewave up to 90V plus or minus level. Tube current matches the voltage drop waveform across the resistor, which is what causes the resistor's waveform, of course. Never put a neon bulb directly across ANYTHING.... -- Larry Article: 320796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Radio collection up for auction in Minnesota August 14th. Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:12:31 +0200 Message-ID: References: Art's Antique Radios wrote: > Looks like two nice Emersons though on there > > > >>also see same auction house for 8/28 > > > > That "Double Clock Radio" sure is strange: > > > > http://www.midwestauctions.com/schiele/images/0828c-4-Miniaturecrankph onographandDoubleClockRadio.jpg > > > > Anybody have any idea what that is? Homebrew? Or some sort of > > store display? I can't imagine what the intended function would > > be if this were an end-user product. "Narrow" AM-Stereo on two frequencies like the Pioneer SM-G204 receiver ;-) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 320797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: Subject: Re: European to US Tube Conversion... Bases Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:31:18 +0100 Message-ID: <42fd4d7a@nntp.onyx.net> Williams wrote: > Being unable to easily google some cheapo tube subs for my Brit > radio, I have compiled a modest list of notable discoveries made from > examining every single one of the tube bases listed in my 1964 GE > "Essential Characteristics". > CCH35, EF39, EBC33, CL33, CY31... All have pins 2 & 7 as > filament, pin 3 as cathode, pin 8 as anode. > The idea is WITHOUT CHANGING THE WIRING to "pop in" a likely tube > and see if it "works"---mindful of capacity, purpose and > characteristics. > Of course, ANY tube will do if ya change the wiring. Oh no it won't! > Perhaps some poor soul will "Google" ease of mind... or another > way to screw up a radio. > Euro tube These octals are actually peculiarly *British*! (The Euro versions were ECH3, EF9,EBC3,CL3 and CY1, with side-contact bases.) > EF39 appears to have US base of 7R , > Euro EBC33 app.to have US base of 7V , > Euro CL33 app. to have US base of 7S. > CCH35 and CY31 are tougher. GOOD LUCK! Prepare for explosion, fire, > and sudden death. > For CCH35 take a long hard look at 6K8,G,GT 12K8GT Bases 8A & 8B > ...6K8 6J8 117L7 etc. > For CY31 ponder with utmost gravity Bases 6S 6CN 6AD 5AA 8EL > ...6H4GT 6AH4GT 50Y7G 50Z7G > *** in my '64 GE "E.C." there appears to be NO DIFFERENCE between > bases 7AP and 7AQ. Humph! Hmm... Bear in mind the heater current is 200mA. Therefore, the American 150mA octals with suitable heater shunts are the most promising. i.e. 12K8GT,12K7GT,12Q7GT,35L6GT,35Z5GT (or a silicon diode) The EF39 and EBC33 are still available quite cheaply >from e.g. Colomor and I could supply a used CCH35 cheaply if you can't find one. The CY31 is more difficult because they are quite expensive now and were never that good (H/K breakdown) so I'd recommend the silicon diode. The CL33 is expensive new, and used ones are often gassy or have H/K leakage, so I'd consider the 35L6, dropping the screen voltage to suit. If the CL33 is bad, I'd strongly suggest throwing away the faulty heater dropping resistor, rewiring the heaters in parallel, fitting a 6.3-V transformer and using these valves: ECH35 or 6K8/G/GT EF39 or 6K7/G/GT EBC33 or 6R7/G/GT or 6Q7 (not as near as the 6R7) 6V6/G/GT with suitable cathode resistor & bypass cap.(I used a Mazda 6P25) Silicon rectifier 1N4007 with the usual resistor to give the same HT voltage as a CY31 (I used a Russian 6X5GT equivalent) Decisions,decisions! Good luck, Martin. Article: 320798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: I found a Philco Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:38:17 GMT Tonight's side-of-the-road-ready-for-trash find was a Philco Model 42-1010 (Code 121) console. By it's side, a box of 100+ 78's. Slightly rained on, but restorable and complete, down to the original Philco loktals. I'm letting it dry out in the garage for a few days before I bring it into the workshop. I'm eager to getting into this one and getting that beam of light phono to work. Poor camera phone photo in the binaries. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 320799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: I found a Philco Message-ID: <6DcLe.93198$5N3.68058@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:09:06 GMT Congrats!!!! "Jon" wrote in message news:dacLe.8046$rI6.7196@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Tonight's side-of-the-road-ready-for-trash find was a Philco Model 42-1010 > (Code 121) console. By it's side, a box of 100+ 78's. Slightly rained on, > but restorable and complete, down to the original Philco loktals. I'm > letting it dry out in the garage for a few days before I bring it into the > workshop. I'm eager to getting into this one and getting that beam of > light phono to work. Poor camera phone photo in the binaries. > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > Article: 320800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:28:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123856363.922500.93390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123858994.970481.272770@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1123884601.284119.266850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:10:01 -0700, frenchy wrote: > How about just a bayonet type NE2D bulb? That's all the store had in > stock so I grabbed two of those. These don't have any built in > resistance in them do they? Here are the specs, what does "r.r. 100K" > mean? thanks! : > > category: Neon Glow > volt: 105 - 125 > amp: .001 > watt: .067 > base: SX6s > glass: T1-3/4 > m.o.l.: .94 inches > d.hours: 25000 > > notes: > bdv:65/AC - 90/DC > Neon > rr:100K In general, screw base neon bulbs have built-in resistors, bayonet based ones don't. There may be exceptions; check the data sheet. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 320801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Philco 54 questions Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:46:07 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 00:07:04 +0000, Gary Tayman wrote: > Today I actually had a few spare minutes, so I opened up the Philco 54 to > take a better look. I replaced the power cord (interlock switch, > interesting) and installed a new stretch of antenna wire. Geez, I could > plug it in, but I know better. There are two electrolytics that sit > vertically above the chassis with a clamp. There is also an electrolytic > inside, sort of a square can that's bulging a bit. Yes, they're on my list > for replacement. However I also noticed there are two black blocks inside > the chassis, and two more above it, with multiple wires attached to each. > Are these some sort of molded capacitors? I looked at the schematic, and > looked for capacitors just to see what it shows. It shows Philco part > numbers! Any suggestions for doing a recap here? Aside from wanting to > replace the caps, I'm impressed with the condition of this chassis -- > wiring, and most everything inside the chassis, looks new. Above it's > dusty, but still in good shape. The speaker cone could use some tea bags . > . . Here's a web site that explains how to rebuild Philco capacitor blocks: http://www.philcorepairbench.com/capbuild.htm. I haven't actually done this but the instructions look complete. Good luck. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 320802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Zenith C725C References: <1123773297.904885.117600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1123855252.220835.51370@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:07:48 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > The FM misalignment is common on these. Pull the chassis, extend the > speaker wires with clip leads so you can play it (do this away from anything > grounded, away from anything grounded or a damp environment, this is a "hot > chassis" set). Note which way you want to "move" the pointer on the dial. > See that when you tune the set, a "rack" pulls some slugs up and down? > There should be three of them. If you twist them (with fingers usually > works) they thread up and down. One of them will move the stations up or > down, the dial. Dont go far. Also, do this in NO AFC mode. Check it and > test again. Make sure the top and bottom of the dial are still there for > stations. These sets dont have the most accurate dials anyways. > > The coupling cap is feeding the grid connection of the 35C5 or 50C5 tube, > whatever is in there for an audio output tube. Grid is pin 2 or 5, viewing > from the bottom of the socket., starting at the gap in the pins and counting > clockwise. If its a paper cap, change it. Usually .01 to .047 (.05) in > value. Also, try changing the tube too. > > I could teach you everything in about 75minutes, but then I would have to > kill you. ;) ...and I have no more space in my yard for bodies.... > > Mark Oppat > Antique Audio > > > "RB" wrote in message > news:1123855252.220835.51370@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>shoppa - I heard from UPS this morning. It sounds like they are going >>to refund the price of the radio + shipping to the seller's UPS >>account. I then have to get my refund from him. I'll let you know if >>it all works out. >> >>Mark - you sound pretty confident that it's "one of the FM iron slugs" >>on the "FM gang". I googled these terms but didn't find much help. >>Can you (or anyone here) direct me to more info on this subject and >>info on the possible "bad coupling cap" problem? >> >>I love the looks and sounds of vintage radios but I have a lot to learn >>about how to fix problems like these. I know how to solder but I don't >>know what to solder. If I might mess up a radio trying to fix it, I >>suppose this would be a good choice. It's doesn't seem to be rare. >>I've found several on eBay. >> >>BTW, is it likely that being dropped caused these problems? >> >>Thanks, >>RB >> >> > > > > Great advise Mark Note that I have 3 of the Zenith 8 tube versions with the verticle slide rule dial and putty colored plastic face. Every one was off on the FM (but not AM which was spot on) tuning, receiving say 101.1 at a dial reading of 102.5 or so. After recapping (the electrolytics all appear fine, but the paper caps were all replaced), a quick bit of playing with the FM adjustments worked. I think the 'middle" of the three adjustments is the one to try first. Best thing is to use some masking tape, mark where a particular strong station should be, and where it is currently received, before removing the chasis, and work from there. Hope this helps! Best Regards, DAve Article: 320803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: I got scammed Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:29:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1123622571.944746.166940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> That is exactly what they want. I like to run them crazy when they send me e-mails like that. On Thu, 10 Aug 2005, frenchy wrote: > he asked for other junk like name but nothing that specific about > accounts. Yeah I guess they could get you to respond and then bug you > again for numbers. > > Article: 320804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: BEWARE DesertBob aka Bob Scarborough-Ebay username Voxpopper Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:32:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1123759387.213654.53650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Thanks for the warning. On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Bob Scarborough,Lancaster, CA wrote: > To all Usenet/Google Groups/Ebay users > > do NOT do business with DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough of Lancaster, Ca. > > his Ebay username is VOXPOPPER- put him in your "blocked bidders" list > ASAP > > I sold him an alignment tape a year ago- he returned it for a full > refund- and has been harassing this newsgroup and my Ebay auctions ever > since. > > Once he gets your personal info, you'll end up with your own personal > stalker. > > See this link for what he is doing now on Google Groups- all these post > titles are by him. > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.collecting.8-track-tapes > > Article: 320805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: BEWARE DesertBob aka Bob Scarborough-Ebay username Voxpopper Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:33:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1123759387.213654.53650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I hear ya. On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Steven wrote: > Now he can't even post crap in the correct person. > > The internet is so worthless. > > Article: 320806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: BEWARE DesertBob aka Bob Scarborough-Ebay username Voxpopper Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:34:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1123759387.213654.53650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> You can look at the headers in the message. On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Steven wrote: > > Mike Schultz wrote: >> If this guy's so bad, then why does he have only two negatives after more >> than 800 transactions? >> >> Hello? Hello? >> >> -- >> Mike Schultz > > Because this guy IS that guy, and every other g------ed Sybil critter > in the book including the Ram Bluebook guy AND the diligent troll > lawyer that comes with him...AND the guy who chastised him! > > I USED to use these damned things to make nice crafts, cards and love > letters, brochures, flyers and newsletters for whomever I volunteered > for. Now All I do is sit and watch it, people's crap yelling between > people who know little of some others, Sybil and his auction scam, and > news I don't give a damn about. All it really becomes good for is > buying parts or eBay stuff in the end. The computer has truly become an > exercise in learning how to repair the computer. This may truly be the > land of the damned. And blind, maybe dumb sometimes. All I know is I > didn't need to update ANYTHING before I got on the internet. I DON'T > want to download MP3s, buy an iPod, combine and decode rar, par, csv, > yEnc, control the central heating, play RPGs or MPGs with 512MB of > menthol smoking DDR at 1600X1200 on my wall with a liquid crystal > display/ultra HD receiver and a Blu-Ray player...I've never used a DVD > in my own home! I don't stream audio and video, try to learn how to > write open source routines to monitor my toaster, and for the most part > I could care less! > > What good is this S--- for anyway? > > Article: 320807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: 45 RPM Jukebox Adapter Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:46:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: I sold a jukebox on that news group for a friend a few years ago. On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > John, I suggest you pose your question over in > alt.collecting.juke-boxes. You'll get a quick answer there. > > Terry. > > Article: 320808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Unique Antiques and Collectibles Group Message-ID: References: <1123912471.507871.231110@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 07:41:04 GMT But what about the RADIOS, dinosaur bones, and radioacative Russsian satellite debris? Inquiring minds want to know. Gordon Richmond Article: 320809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: European to US Tube Conversion... Bases Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:49:10 GMT Message-ID: <42fddc8a.2850779@news.demon.co.uk> References: On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:24:41 -0400, "Williams" wrote: > Being unable to easily google some cheapo tube subs for my Brit = >radio, I have compiled a modest list of notable discoveries made from = >examining every single one of the tube bases listed in my 1964 GE = >"Essential Characteristics". Download a copy of the Duncan's Amps Tube Data Sheet Locator: http://www.duncanamps.com/tdslpe/index.html for lots of useful info. One problem subbing the RF tubes is that European practice was to design tubes with a metallised screen attached to the envelope, while American practice used separate screening cans. This will result in stability problems if you don't use the correct tubes. Best regards, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 320810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 54 questions From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:06:07 GMT In article , gtayman@gate.net says... > > >Are these some sort of molded capacitors? I looked at the schematic, and >looked for capacitors just to see what it shows. It shows Philco part >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Gary you haven't done a Philco Tar Baby yet... you have led a too sheltered life... just dig the old tar and caps out and replace with new caps... no restuffing of material needed.. John k9uwa Article: 320811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:23:06 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough caught in a lie References: <1123935038.404560.238940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1b271$42fde62c$4232bd0a$14155@COQUI.NET> Bob Scarborough,Lancaster, CA wrote: > As you all know, DeserTBob has been harassing ....plonk Article: 320812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <1123622571.944746.166940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123713643.722021.302190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123735308.920321.65950@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123738583.364180.29710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I got scammed Message-ID: <3JnLe.29454$Tf5.8649@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:47:14 -1200 "Dana" wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.63.0508130229190.21849@panix1.panix.com... > That is exactly what they want. I like to run them crazy when they send me > e-mails like that. > > On Thu, 10 Aug 2005, frenchy wrote: > >> he asked for other junk like name but nothing that specific about >> accounts. Yeah I guess they could get you to respond and then bug you >> again for numbers. >> >> Just on our local news this AM. There are some "supposed" stiff spam laws out there. Some companies are being sued BIG TIME. They offered a web site to send your spam to. While I can't recall the exact website at the moment, a link to it can be found here - www.thepittsburghchannel.com The address as was given on the news included "uce.gov" in it...... so when you get to the above web site, look for the address with this in it. Will this help? I don't know, but anything is worth a shot. Doing nothing isn't helping either. Between the damned mortgage offers, penis lengtheners - or make hard pills - scams from Nigeria (supposedly), the E-Bay scammers, Pay Pal Scammers and so on - and now even Rolex and other - undoubted - knock off watches, it really is getting sickening. Part of the problem is the dummies who fall for it. Without willing participants, there wouldn't be a job for these low lifes. Yessireee, P.T. Barnum was absolutely correct. clf Article: 320813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42FE0749.1FCBF81@sympatico.ca> From: John Stewart Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 10:44:25 -0400 Larry wrote: > "frenchy" wrote in > news:1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > > > 2. arc and explode > > > > Neon is like a regulator, and actually is used as a regulator voltage > reference in many old test equipments. That is the 991. See it on this page. http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets9.html And all you ever wanted to know about neon bulbs at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/electricstuff/oldbooks.html Cheers, JLS Article: 320814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Philco 54 questions Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 09:06:12 -0600 Message-ID: <10827-42FE0C64-533@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: I have worked on a few of those radios . They are no fun unless you have nothing else better to do :-) i had 2 versions one with 2 big huge resistors in back and one without them and a power transformer . In all cases i removed that dumb switch in back . Article: 320815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Philco 54 questions Message-ID: <3hoLe.5083$Je.3899@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:24:47 GMT Yes, I suppose I've indeed been sheltered. I haven't seen these before; I suppose they didn't put these in car radios -- at least not the ones I've seen. Actually, one block has some gooey tar, the others look good, but I'll rebuild them all -- and yes, after posting the message I spotted the web page. Other than parts being a bit hard to reach, the radio actually looks rather simple. If I rebuild those blocks, I'll be scratching my head over what to do with those electrolytics. Everything's too original to replace them with modern, but I want them replaced. And to REALLY come out of the shelter, today at the Sarasota Swap Meet I bought a gorgeous all-original A-K 60, complete with speaker. I was told this radio was in a museum, but don't know which one. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:PmlLe.247930$_o.91145@attbi_s71... > In article , > gtayman@gate.net says... >> >> >>Are these some sort of molded capacitors? I looked at the schematic, and >>looked for capacitors just to see what it shows. It shows Philco part >>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > Gary you haven't done a Philco Tar Baby yet... you have led a too > sheltered > life... > > just dig the old tar and caps out and replace with new caps... no > restuffing > of material needed.. > > John k9uwa > Article: 320816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: DO YOU TRASH THE UGLY DUCKLINGS? (was I finally accquired a Zenith!) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:32:44 -0400 "DaveW" wrote in message news:j_AKe.15490$7d.15313@trnddc08... > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> Ok, it's not a Strat or a Walton, but it is a Zenith. >> It looks like this: >> http://radioatticarchives.com/images/z/Zenith_N731_Holmberg.jpg >> >> It was given to me by a friend who said, "Here, it'll take up >> space in your garage as well as it will in mine." >> >> It's going to need a cap, selenium and drifty resistor job >> to make it play properly. It ran for about 15 minutes and went >> dead. >> >> But the short time it was playing properly, it sounded quiet >> pleasant. >> >> Oh joy, another project I haven't got time for. ;-) >> >> Jeff >> > > Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, > > You finally get a Zenith and you get an UGLY one? For shame.... > > > DAve I dunno about you, but often I can't say no when someone offers me a radio, even one that by today's standards, or in terms of collectibility, isn't "of interest". For example, I have a late '60s GE solid state AM-FM radio, in a rather plain "wood" cabinet. It's actually my wife's, given to her by her late father "back in the day", when he worked for GE in Toronto. He worked for GE for 35 years, like his dad before him, and so this radio has become a memento for us. I've stopped buying them on eBay. I took the 12-step program. But friends and neighbours sometimes offer me old stuff "that's on it's way to the dumpster, if you don't take it" and then it gets tough. But with the years, I've wound up with a '52 Viking AM/SW console with a 78 changer, and an early '60s Clairtone tube console (56" long), and so on an so forth, I made myself some rules: no more SS, and no more consoles. Six is enough! But stuff still leaks in. Like the Blaupunkt plastic tube AF/FM/SW table radio, perfect cabinet and it works fine. Again, on it's way to the trash. And so on, and so on. I think I do it for three reasons: o nostalgia, which is what got me into radio collecting o greed: I keep thinking that pink Barbie SS stereo AM/FM will be worth big bucks in the future o a desire to keep examples of technology from two or three generations ago in circulation. How do you folks (or at least those who don't live on a farm with multiple barns) stop from choking your homes with these things? This could be a cry for help. :) -- "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 17 10:34:42 EDT 2005 Article: 320817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:37:58 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 10 Message-ID: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-992.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320817 Hi, A friend wants to install this in one of his vintage VWs, but we have no idea how the speaker connects, or how to switch negative and positive ground (there was evidently a different jumper plug to do that, from the one that came installed). Can anyone point me to a schematic, or ideally send one? Seems to be a well-made tube model, with AM and FM. Thanks, Alan adouglas at gis.net Article: 320818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42FE0749.1FCBF81@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question Message-ID: <1123948617.fcdef253bef8bfda1a7fb3f47baf0ecb@teranews> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:56:43 -0700 one more interesting thing on NE2 bulbs - this works because I did it, though it's painstaking. Buy a bag of the bulbs - at least 100, 1000 would be better. you can get them for around a penny each, sometimes less buy an equal number of aprox 1 uf capacitors (at at least 100v) and 10 meg (or larger) resistors. place the bulbs in a rectangular matrix on about 0.5 inch centers on a reflective surface (aluminized mylar works great) put this inside a shadow box type frame wire each bulb as a relaxation oscilator using one each cap and resistor wire them all in parallel add a single diode to make DC plug into your power line (110 or 220) let it run a few days, then look at it in a darkened room the flashes will have become random, when the lights are on. when off, the emissions from one bulb triggers nearby bulbs and you get a very nice cascade effect. "John Stewart" wrote in message news:42FE0749.1FCBF81@sympatico.ca... > > > Larry wrote: > >> "frenchy" wrote in >> news:1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >> >> > 2. arc and explode >> > >> >> Neon is like a regulator, and actually is used as a regulator voltage >> reference in many old test equipments. > > That is the 991. See it on this page. > > http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets9.html > > And all you ever wanted to know about neon bulbs at > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/electricstuff/oldbooks.html > > Cheers, JLS > Article: 320819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 question... References: <1123871329.699140.181430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:01:50 GMT GB, Thanks for the information. I have another question. This radio uses two 0.25 mf capacitors. This is the first time I have run accross this value in a radio of this vintage. One is used for the AC line bypass and the other couples the first IF transformer primary to ground. My dilemma is, modern day capacitors do not come in this value. The choices are 0.22 mf and 0.33 mf. Is the the former value sufficient given the tolerances in 1946 weren't as tight as they are today? Also, I will be using an orange drop for the line bypass, hopefully temporarily, as I was unable to find an AC rated cap of a similar value. Does anyone have any tips or recommendations related to the above? Any help would be greatly appreciated, once again. Thanks, Bobby gb wrote: > "Bobby" wrote in message > news:1123871329.699140.181430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>Hello, >> >>Does anyone know what the rear chassis screws threaded into when the >>S-38 came off of the assembly line? >> >>I have installed new rubber grommets in the rear but the original >>hardware appears to have been replaced during the radio's long history. >>The rear of the chassis was mated to the cabinet with machine screws, >>nuts and large washers with the original, but rotten, grommets in >>place. This was a safety concern because the hardware was contacting >>the chassis instead of being isolated by the rubber grommet. >> >>The front grommets will be replaced without issue as the original >>hardware is still in place. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I >>will take before and after photos of the chassis and post them on the >>binaries when finished. >> >>Later, >> >>Bobby >> > > > Some helpful Hallicrafters S38 web sites > http://www.stanwatkins.com/hals38.htm > > http://www.radioantiques.com/mall.html > > http://www.thes38guy.com/Page_1x.html > > gb > > Article: 320820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:06:28 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: WTB - 4-pin sockets Message-ID: Hi, I'd like to buy about about a dozen old-type plain-jane chassis mount 4 pin sockets. Bakelite, phenolic, wafer type ok. Used is fine. Can pay cash or trade some new ceramic 4-pin sockets. TIA, Bill Article: 320821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 question... References: <1123871329.699140.181430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:30:20 GMT Thanks Phil, I forgot about that section of your site. I've been on it before and have read your restoration articles too. I just need to get back into the swing of things as I have been on a hiatus from my radio restorations for about a year now due to money concerns. Things are back on track financially and now I can enjoy my hobby once again and become more active on the group. I am also working on getting my amateur radio license, so that is also keeping me busy. The next testing session is in October locally. I'll be ready for it. Thanks again, Bobby Phil Nelson wrote: >>choices are 0.22 mf and 0.33 mf. Is the the former value sufficient given >>the tolerances in 1946 weren't as tight as they are today? > > > I usually round up rather than down, but either one should be OK. See the > article at http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm for more advice about > recapping. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 320822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: contact cleaner ?? Date: 13 Aug 2005 13:06:03 -0500 Message-ID: <42fe364a$0$16761$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <091Le.20077$084.403@attbi_s22> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, > nobodyhere@fakeaddress.com says... > >> >>>Cyclo.... 11 oz can is 3 bucks.... I buy it by the case.. >> >>I haven't heard of Cyclo. What is this and where is it bought? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Bubba > > > Hi Bubba.... email my buddy that I get it from tell him that John k9uwa > sent U ... buy a case of the stuff ... otherwise the shipping will eat > you on it... dozen cans in a case... 36 bucks for the case plus > shipping.. get it from Kim Herron W8ZV Oh, boy: That's a 10-lifetime supply for me. But I like your concept that we need something cheap as a basic crud-flush. And from your reply, it sounds like you approve Cyclo for pots. Is that so? Regarding Deoxit: I'm under the impression that this isn't so much a contact cleaner as a preservative. Is that correct? Bubba Article: 320823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What sticks to brass? References: <1123953152.653634.248770@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2OqLe.219$ej5.44@lakeread05> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:16:24 -0400 Did you sand the brass before using putty? Ken pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > For filling dents in brass, is there a product that will stick to > brass? Regular body putty I've found does not adhere well. Yes, it > will get a coat of paint. Thanks for any tips, > Dave > Article: 320824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Pot cleaners Date: 13 Aug 2005 13:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: <42fe3c61$0$16793$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <42fc23d0$0$16806$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <7b73e$42fc2aef$4232bd5f$1176@COQUI.NET> -ex- wrote: > CalBubba wrote: > You can get a refillable aerosol can at Harbour Freight...and someone > mentioned another source here just the other day. They're quite handy. > You can pump it up with a bicycle pump. Uses standard spray can > nozzles...and comes with a few of its own. > > -Bill Are you talking about this for $10 USD? 1102-3VGA REUSABLE/REFILLABLE AEROSOL SPRAY CAN I found it on this URL: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1102 Bubb Article: 320825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:38:12 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Pot cleaners References: <42fc23d0$0$16806$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <7b73e$42fc2aef$4232bd5f$1176@COQUI.NET> <42fe3c61$0$16793$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: <6717c$42fe3e16$4232bd3f$4922@COQUI.NET> CalBubba wrote: > -ex- wrote: > >> CalBubba wrote: > > >> You can get a refillable aerosol can at Harbour Freight...and someone >> mentioned another source here just the other day. They're quite >> handy. You can pump it up with a bicycle pump. Uses standard spray >> can nozzles...and comes with a few of its own. >> >> -Bill > > > Are you talking about this for $10 USD? > > 1102-3VGA REUSABLE/REFILLABLE AEROSOL SPRAY CAN > > I found it on this URL: > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1102 > > Bubb Yes, thats the one. -Bill Article: 320826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: contact cleaner ?? References: <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <091Le.20077$084.403@attbi_s22> <42fe364a$0$16761$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:39:33 GMT CalBubba wrote: > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > >> In article <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, >> nobodyhere@fakeaddress.com says... >> >>> >>>> Cyclo.... 11 oz can is 3 bucks.... I buy it by the case.. >>> >>> >>> I haven't heard of Cyclo. What is this and where is it bought? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Bubba >> >> >> >> Hi Bubba.... email my buddy that I get it from tell him that John k9uwa >> sent U ... buy a case of the stuff ... otherwise the shipping will eat >> you on it... dozen cans in a case... 36 bucks for the case plus >> shipping.. get it from Kim Herron W8ZV > > > Oh, boy: > That's a 10-lifetime supply for me. > > But I like your concept that we need something cheap as a basic > crud-flush. And from your reply, it sounds like you approve Cyclo for > pots. Is that so? > > Regarding Deoxit: I'm under the impression that this isn't so much a > contact cleaner as a preservative. Is that correct? > > Bubba Bubba, DeoxIT is a contact cleaner/deoxidizer, for the most part. Caig's ProGold is a conductivity enhancer/preservative for most plated contacts and connections. Those include gold RCA jacks and connectors for HiFi, video, etc. Caigs PreservIT is a preservative for everything electrically related. Basically they are used in the order presented above, DeoxIT --> ProGold --> PreservIT. For potentiometers that use a carbon plastic resistance element instead of wire, use DeoxIT and then follow up with Caig's CaiKleen MCL. CaiKleen MCL is improves the performance of the carbon pots and also lubricates for protection and long term reliability. I just ordered from Caig a kit which includes spray cans of DeoxIT, ProGold and CaiKleen MCL. It also includes a free ProGold pen applicator, kind of like the paint pens you can get at craft stores. Later, Bobby Article: 320827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:41:11 -0600 Message-ID: I'm looking for a decent scan of three Rider's pages for a Philco 610. They're in Volume Six, pages 6-19, 6-20 and 6-21. The old BPS copies of Rider's that I have are all blurred on those pages. Has anyone tried those new scans that are available on eBay from that guy in Idaho ?? If they're any good, I think it's about time to invest in a set. Ben From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Wed Aug 17 10:34:44 EDT 2005 Article: 320828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 14 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:48:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1123962522 66.65.49.245 (Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:48:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:48:42 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320828 In article , John Stone wrote: > If you're in the Chicago area, how could you leave out WRLL 1690? Easy. Most radios don't go down that far, unless they're fairly old and have a "Police Band" (between 16 and 17) or fairly new (when that section of the band was authorised for broadcasting. Some new (cheap-o) radios have the numbers on the dial, you might not hear anything there though, even if you have stations in the area. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 17 10:34:44 EDT 2005 Article: 320829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:58:50 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-589.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320829 Hi, Thanks, I'll pass those notes along. He brought the radio over and it looked very clean. He also had a standard VW faceplate which looked as if it would fit over the Blaupunkt if the center hole were milled out on all four sides. The knob spacing was the same. As to depth in the dash, I don't know. I didn't ask which vehicle he had in mind; he has two bugs and a camper bus from the 1960s. Voltage selection is by a small plastic block with exposed shorting pins, inserted in two different positions into a receptacle inside the radio. The paper diagram on the cover also shows plugs for positive and negative ground, which we guessed were color-coded, but only one came with the radio. However it would be easy enough to solder jumper wires on the receptacle, and dispense with the plug. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 17 10:34:45 EDT 2005 Article: 320830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Book or website on coil-winding machine? Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:09:17 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <1123958550.722960.202760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-447.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320830 Hi, It was sold by Lindsay: http://www.lindsaybooks.com Try a search under "Gingery" as I recall he was the author of that one. Alan From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Wed Aug 17 10:34:45 EDT 2005 Article: 320831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: DO YOU TRASH THE UGLY DUCKLINGS? (was I finally accquired a Zenith!) References: <1123962688.938708.249090@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 15 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:47:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1123966067 66.65.49.245 (Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:47:47 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:47:47 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320831 In article <1123962688.938708.249090@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Paul Dietenberger wrote: > One time I went to the swap meet I brought along a few radios like > this, real junk stuff not even worth listing on eBay. Put them by my > car with a "FREE" sign underneath. Then I walked away to browse the > meet. That's similar to what I do when I go to the NJARC swaps. Except I give them to the club, which usually auctions them off for some cash. I was leery of the last bunch though....I hope they didn't get stuck with it. Sal? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 320832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Pot cleaners Date: 13 Aug 2005 15:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: <42fe5bf9$0$16767$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <42fc23d0$0$16806$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <7b73e$42fc2aef$4232bd5f$1176@COQUI.NET> <42fe3c61$0$16793$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <6717c$42fe3e16$4232bd3f$4922@COQUI.NET> -ex- wrote: > CalBubba wrote: > >> -ex- wrote: >> >>> CalBubba wrote: >> >> >> >>> You can get a refillable aerosol can at Harbour Freight...and someone >>> mentioned another source here just the other day. They're quite >>> handy. You can pump it up with a bicycle pump. Uses standard spray >>> can nozzles...and comes with a few of its own. >>> >>> -Bill >> >> >> >> Are you talking about this for $10 USD? >> >> 1102-3VGA REUSABLE/REFILLABLE AEROSOL SPRAY CAN >> >> I found it on this URL: >> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1102 >> >> Bubb > > > Yes, thats the one. > > -Bill I learned a few things. Like, that Harbor Freight is a chain and there's even a store not too far from me. They also have some interesting looking test meters; prices look very nice, too. However, I don't know which part of China they're from. Thanks, Bill. Bub Article: 320833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Richard Steinfeld Subject: Re: contact cleaner ?? Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:48:13 -0700 Message-ID: <11fsn4d5t8np1aa@corp.supernews.com> References: <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <091Le.20077$084.403@attbi_s22> <42fe364a$0$16761$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Robert Sherrod wrote: > Bubba, > > DeoxIT is a contact cleaner/deoxidizer, for the most part. Caig's > ProGold is a conductivity enhancer/preservative for most plated contacts > and connections. Those include gold RCA jacks and connectors for HiFi, > video, etc. Caigs PreservIT is a preservative for everything > electrically related. > > Basically they are used in the order presented above, DeoxIT --> ProGold > --> PreservIT. > > For potentiometers that use a carbon plastic resistance element instead > of wire, use DeoxIT and then follow up with Caig's CaiKleen MCL. > CaiKleen MCL is improves the performance of the carbon pots and also > lubricates for protection and long term reliability. > > I just ordered from Caig a kit which includes spray cans of DeoxIT, > ProGold and CaiKleen MCL. It also includes a free ProGold pen > applicator, kind of like the paint pens you can get at craft stores. > Thanks for the orientation. It is useful. You ordered this directly from Caig on their site? Bubba Article: 320834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: contact cleaner ?? References: <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <091Le.20077$084.403@attbi_s22> <42fe364a$0$16761$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <11fsn4d5t8np1aa@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:53:12 GMT Richard Steinfeld wrote: > Robert Sherrod wrote: > >> Bubba, >> >> DeoxIT is a contact cleaner/deoxidizer, for the most part. Caig's >> ProGold is a conductivity enhancer/preservative for most plated >> contacts and connections. Those include gold RCA jacks and connectors >> for HiFi, video, etc. Caigs PreservIT is a preservative for everything >> electrically related. >> >> Basically they are used in the order presented above, DeoxIT --> >> ProGold --> PreservIT. >> >> For potentiometers that use a carbon plastic resistance element >> instead of wire, use DeoxIT and then follow up with Caig's CaiKleen >> MCL. CaiKleen MCL is improves the performance of the carbon pots and >> also lubricates for protection and long term reliability. >> >> I just ordered from Caig a kit which includes spray cans of DeoxIT, >> ProGold and CaiKleen MCL. It also includes a free ProGold pen >> applicator, kind of like the paint pens you can get at craft stores. >> > > Thanks for the orientation. It is useful. > You ordered this directly from Caig on their site? > > Bubba > Bubba, Yes. I order this directly from their site. Here is the web address: http://www.caig.com/ Here is the kit I ordered is this one: http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.82/it.A/id.2037/.f Check out the rest of their products. They have a wide range of products for the electronics industry for maintenance and even new production uses. Later, Bobby Article: 320835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Tape recordings on PBS (was Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS) Date: 13 Aug 2005 20:52:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Williams" (spikewilliams@qx.net) writes: > Register the gizmo with SAG. Then apply lots of professional makeup to make > the gizmo look "period". > The techies will scratch their heads in wonder. > > I'm glad you've kept this thread going, saves me from going back to find an earlier article. On PBS, there is a summer show called "History Detectives" which is sort of like Antique Roadshow, but they track down the history of historical items (rather than antiques). This week, though I'm not sure if all the PBS stations are sync'd up, there will be a segment about what may be (according to the blurb) the first commercially produced automobile tape player. But then it goes on to suggest they will be talking about how the Allies got the tape recording process at the end of the war. Given that they are trying to track down a car tape player's history, I'm not sure how much time will go to the end of the war story, but it is interesting, and topical given the earlier discussion in this thread. And the experts on "History Detectives" are supposed to be historians, and in fact they often show bits of them visiting libraries and tracking down old documents in their weekly quests. Michael Article: 320836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:02:13 GMT "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:ddles9$139o$1@news3.infoave.net... > I'm looking for a decent scan of three Rider's pages for a > Philco 610. They're in Volume Six, pages 6-19, 6-20 and 6-21. The > old BPS copies of Rider's that I have are all blurred on those > pages. Has anyone tried those new scans that are available on eBay > from that guy in Idaho ?? If they're any good, I think it's about > time to invest in a set. > Ben > I've bought many sets of Riders on CD and DVD, and all have been the BPS or clones thereof, until I got the radio-data set that came out at the end of September last year. Theirs is superior, and also very reasonable. Currently they sell it on eBay about $20 under what I paid for mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6552963571 jim menning Article: 320837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:10:53 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Pot cleaners References: <42fc23d0$0$16806$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <7b73e$42fc2aef$4232bd5f$1176@COQUI.NET> <42fe3c61$0$16793$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <6717c$42fe3e16$4232bd3f$4922@COQUI.NET> <42fe5bf9$0$16767$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: <897bc$42fe61df$4232bd3f$15544@COQUI.NET> CalBubba wrote: > I learned a few things. > Like, that Harbor Freight is a chain and there's even a store not too > far from me. They also have some interesting looking test meters; prices > look very nice, too. However, I don't know which part of China they're > from. > > Thanks, Bill. > > Bub Yeah, they've got a lot of neat stuff. You've gotta be careful because some of the lower-end stuff isn't fit for use even in China. But they sell good stuff as well. -Bill Article: 320838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Seco tube tester "VT grid circuit tester" any info on it? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:13:15 GMT Made by Seco manufacturing. Mpls, Minn, model GCT-3 It has a "magic eye" tube for the indicator, and 3 sockets. One socket for twin triodes of the pin pattern 9A (12AX7s and such, another for 6V twin triodes, and a 3rd for pentodes like 6AU6s (7CM and 7BK pinouts). Doesn't seem to work but it's not clear how to operate it. The eye tube does glow green. Anyone familiar with Seco equipment? If not I could trace it out; looks to be a transconductance tester for a limited selection of tubes. Article: 320839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:51:37 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Message-ID: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> I understand that old radio folk have mixed feelings about the attractiveness of the ebony/chrome cabinets that Zenith and RCA occasionally produced. I just finished up this set and would like some critical opinion. You know, "looks like a robot", "old radios are supposed to be dull brown", "I love it", "Looks like crap", whatever. I too have mixed feelings about how much I like it. A bit of background. Yes, the set originally came in ebony. Best I can determine is that the French? consortium of SEM/SBR produced this set under license from Philips. Tag on the back panel attests to this. It uses the Philips 529 Super-Octode chassis (1934). I've seen a couple of other SBR sets that are using chassis from other companies so its not like its a pirated knock-off version. I got it from an ebayer in Luxembourg in pretty fair cndx and I have rehabbed it and its a good playing set. Anyway, I just wanted to show it off and hear what others think about the style. http://www.sparkbench.com/xt1.jpg http://www.sparkbench.com/xt2.jpg -Bill M Article: 320840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42FE7866.7070602@nycap.rr.com> From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Seco tube tester "VT grid circuit tester" any info on it? References: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:43:33 GMT Bob, I sent you a could pages from the manual. It is a very sensitive grid leakage tester which became popular when TV RF and IF tubes could cause a lot of trouble with even a small grid emission or gas. robert casey wrote: > Made by Seco manufacturing. Mpls, Minn, model GCT-3 > > It has a "magic eye" tube for the indicator, and 3 sockets. > One socket for twin triodes of the pin pattern 9A (12AX7s and > such, another for 6V twin triodes, and a 3rd for pentodes > like 6AU6s (7CM and 7BK pinouts). Doesn't seem to > work but it's not clear how to operate it. The eye tube > does glow green. Anyone familiar with Seco equipment? > If not I could trace it out; looks to be a transconductance > tester for a limited selection of tubes. Article: 320841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Message-ID: <1qusf1d6jfh8higlbckmukht2h7mqp7b6i@4ax.com> References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:01:35 GMT That IS a pretty radio. Is it actually real ebony, or is it black laquer-finished common wood? Seems to me real ebony would be unnecessarily expensive to get that particular look. Or is "ebony" a generic term for black lacquer finish? Gordon Richmond Article: 320842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:04:25 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> <1qusf1d6jfh8higlbckmukht2h7mqp7b6i@4ax.com> Message-ID: <7d0fc$42fe7c7b$4232bd1b$22015@COQUI.NET> Gordon Richmond wrote: > That IS a pretty radio. Is it actually real ebony, or is it black > laquer-finished common wood? Seems to me real ebony would be > unnecessarily expensive to get that particular look. Or is "ebony" a > generic term for black lacquer finish? > > Gordon Richmond Oh no, its simply black lacquer. I guess I should have worded the post title differently. The RCA and Zenith black versions are generally referred to as 'ebony' cabinets and I guess that has stuck. -Bill Article: 320843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> <1qusf1d6jfh8higlbckmukht2h7mqp7b6i@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:06:17 GMT Gordon Richmond wrote: > That IS a pretty radio. Is it actually real ebony, or is it black > laquer-finished common wood? Seems to me real ebony would be > unnecessarily expensive to get that particular look. Or is "ebony" a > generic term for black lacquer finish? > There is an ebony wood, but in the furniture trade when they said something is "ebonized" that means painted black. Ron Article: 320844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: What sticks to brass? Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:14:18 -0600 Message-ID: <18241-42FE7ECA-227@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> References: <1123953152.653634.248770@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Solder DON AC7PD From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 17 10:34:48 EDT 2005 Article: 320845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:10:06 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-980.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320845 Back again, The VW in question is a 61, bought in Holland. I understand that's before the Sapphire came out. Alan From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Wed Aug 17 10:34:48 EDT 2005 Article: 320846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Pot cleaners Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:45:34 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11ft18l228c3289@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <42fc23d0$0$16806$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <7b73e$42fc2aef$4232bd5f$1176@COQUI.NET> <42fe3c61$0$16793$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <6717c$42fe3e16$4232bd3f$4922@COQUI.NET> <42fe5bf9$0$16767$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <897bc$42fe61df$4232bd3f$15544@COQUI.NET> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 28 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-10!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320846 "-ex-" wrote in message news:897bc$42fe61df$4232bd3f$15544@COQUI.NET... > CalBubba wrote: > > >> I learned a few things. >> Like, that Harbor Freight is a chain and there's even a store not too far >> from me. They also have some interesting looking test meters; prices look >> very nice, too. However, I don't know which part of China they're from. >> >> Thanks, Bill. >> >> Bub > > Yeah, they've got a lot of neat stuff. You've gotta be careful because > some of the lower-end stuff isn't fit for use even in China. But they > sell good stuff as well. > > -Bill Agreed. I stopped into one of their stores the other day. I would say that most of the inventory is junk. Unless you need cheap disposable tools, I would not recommend shopping there. -David Article: 320847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jimdandy" References: <42f6bbb1$0$16750$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <_KudnXojYZZ0CWTfRVn-3Q@comcast.com> <3KmKe.61342$Z52.375591@wagner.videotron.net> <3cab1$42fa27d1$4232bd0a$31839@COQUI.NET> <775c9$42fa5351$4232bd0a$15852@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Control lubricant Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 18:43:27 -0500 Try some good old fashioned transmission fluid. While it will no evaporate as quick as the other stuff, it works. Use an eye dropper if you can get it in that way. Similar to all the other stuff. Stan Memphis "-ex-" wrote in message news:775c9$42fa5351$4232bd0a$15852@COQUI.NET... > Syl wrote: > >> >> Didn't I say I despise lawyers? >> >> >>>Maybe so in the strictest technical sense. >> >> >> That is my point, exactly. Not to win an argument. >> Besides, this is a very public place, so anyone is entitled to post here >> including lawyers, unfortunately. >> >> Syl >> >> > > Comparing products one against another, re-inventing things, improving on > existing things, duplicating things, making replica parts 'just as good as > the original', saying a product is great, saying its crap, etc is the meat > and potatoes of internet discussion. > > I'd hate to see Ford Motor Company send out their goons everytime someone > said their Chevy is equally good as a Ford. > > Its really not the lawyer's fault. They get paid by somebody to be > a$$holes. > > -Bill Article: 320848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Some guys have all the luck Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 00:02:54 GMT Hi! > The Midwest looks exactly like the D17 pictured at the link above. It's > missing the cabinet back, and has no baffling or anything around the > speakers, if there ever was any. The cabinet is a little beat up and the > veneer is loose on the inside curved part, but it'll clean up pretty well. What bands does this set receive? (And, on another related topic, were there ever radios made in this 'form factor' that had an FM band on them?) William Article: 320849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: 45 RPM Jukebox Adapter References: <0padnZOrO_xEhGPfRVn-uA@giganews.com> Message-ID: <2dwLe.8543$Rm3.5946@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:28:13 -0400 Ken Doyle wrote: > The D40 was 78 rpm, 40 selections (20 records). The D80 was 45rpm, 80 > selections (40 records). > Many of the D40 were converted to 45rpm with the blue ring kit. The kit > came with the rings, a lighter weight tonearm, and a smaller wheel for the > motor shaft. > Blue rings turn up on eBay because many collectors are returning the > converted ones back to 78rpm. > > When I did my D40, I found the model DD amplifier super easy to overhaul. > Lots of room to work under the chassis. > > Ken D. > > "J. B. Wood" wrote in message > news:wood-1208050705120001@jbw-mac.itd.nrl.navy.mil... > >>Hello, all. Does anyone know of a source for those blue adapters used by >>Rowe/AMI to extend the size of a 45 to that of a 78? My other question is >>whether the "D" series of jukeboxes can play 45s. Thanks for your time >>and comment. Sincerely, >> >>John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil >>Naval Research Laboratory >>4555 Overlook Avenue, SW >>Washington, DC 20375-5337 > > > Wern't those rings the same as the "yellow" ones used to play 45 rpm records on a standard record changer? (I used to have a few of those adaptor rings, by using them I could stack up to a dozen 45 rpm records on my Garard changer.) Article: 320850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Got Stuff Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 19:41:28 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1123975829.363784.5470@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> yeah that info about my yard sale could get out there and next think i know my credit card is maxed... randy > Would you trust someone who doesn't know how to spell, or have the common > sense to use a spell checker? > > Article: 320851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 03:25:33 +0100 Message-ID: <42feab89@nntp.onyx.net> -ex- wrote: > I understand that old radio folk have mixed feelings about the > attractiveness of the ebony/chrome cabinets that Zenith and RCA > occasionally produced. > > I just finished up this set and would like some critical opinion. You > know, "looks like a robot", "old radios are supposed to be dull > brown", "I love it", "Looks like crap", whatever. I too have mixed > feelings about how much I like it. > > A bit of background. Yes, the set originally came in ebony. Best I > can determine is that the French? consortium of SEM/SBR produced this > set under license from Philips. Tag on the back panel attests to > this. It uses the Philips 529 Super-Octode chassis (1934). I've > seen a couple of other SBR sets that are using chassis from other > companies so its not like its a pirated knock-off version. I got it > from an ebayer in Luxembourg in pretty fair cndx and I have rehabbed > it and its a good playing set. > > Anyway, I just wanted to show it off and hear what others think about > the style. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/xt1.jpg > > http://www.sparkbench.com/xt2.jpg > > -Bill M I'm jealous. It's absolutely gorgeous and very Philips 838U-ish. (SBR=Belgian) Could you show a rear view of the chassis? Martin. Article: 320852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 20:38:20 -0600 Message-ID: References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> I'd be happy to add one of those to my collection. I think it's a beauty. Ben "TerryJ" wrote in message news:EM6dnTJ9VbZ0O2PfRVn-hA@comcast.com... > I like it. > "-ex-" wrote in message > news:82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET... > >I understand that old radio folk have mixed feelings about the > >attractiveness of the ebony/chrome cabinets that Zenith and RCA > >occasionally produced. > > > > I just finished up this set and would like some critical opinion. You > > know, "looks like a robot", "old radios are supposed to be dull brown", "I > > love it", "Looks like crap", whatever. I too have mixed feelings about > > how much I like it. > > > > A bit of background. Yes, the set originally came in ebony. Best I can > > determine is that the French? consortium of SEM/SBR produced this set > > under license from Philips. Tag on the back panel attests to this. It > > uses the Philips 529 Super-Octode chassis (1934). I've seen a couple of > > other SBR sets that are using chassis from other companies so its not like > > its a pirated knock-off version. I got it from an ebayer in Luxembourg in > > pretty fair cndx and I have rehabbed it and its a good playing set. > > > > Anyway, I just wanted to show it off and hear what others think about the > > style. > > > > http://www.sparkbench.com/xt1.jpg > > > > http://www.sparkbench.com/xt2.jpg > > > > -Bill M > Article: 320853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:21:53 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> <42feab89@nntp.onyx.net> Message-ID: <2b3e6$42feb8d4$4232bd1b$6053@COQUI.NET> Martin Crossley wrote: > It's absolutely gorgeous and very Philips 838U-ish. > (SBR=Belgian) > > Could you show a rear view of the chassis? > Martin. http://www.sparkbench.com/xt4.jpg Don't razz me just yet for not finishing off the back edges... Thanks for the tidbit about SBR. My German 'helper' who facilitated the purchase and shipping kinda e-shook his head and e-mumbled something to the effect of a "who knows?" Benelux radio. Now we have all three Benelux countries accounted for in this set. Its the 529-AU version chassis. I also have here a Philips 529-HU so I can recognize the differences. You'll notice just under the CF 1 tube the studs are in place for pressing on a Philips model number plate. They have never been pressed. The back cover has a Philips plate with a model number...not very readable...and also a Philips plate saying "under license to SEM/SBR" -Bill > Article: 320854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Message-ID: <6bALe.7659$ns.652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 04:57:38 GMT Purchased in Holland, more than likely it came originally with a Blaupunkt. Which model, I can't tell you. The reason I brought that up, there are indeed those who find European radios and get stars in their eyes. They are trouble-prone, they are difficult to repair, and they don't necessarily fit American imports. As for what the radios were in 1961, I can't be sure -- although I've indeed done conversions on radios from Triumphs (Bendix) as early as 1961, and I once worked on an AM/FM radio (Yep! Bendix) for a 1962 Volkswagen. The interesting thing about the Bendix AM/FM's, people go crazy trying to locate original AM/FM radios for Thunderbirds. They were introduced for T-Birds in 1963; I believe the same with full-size Fords. These are the SAME Bendix design that were put in Volkswagens at least one year earlier! However one notable difference is that I believe the VW versions were 6 volt. By the way these AM/FM radios, which were similar design up through 1966, were really crappy radios. The AM only versions were much better design. If the Blaupunkt fits, and works, you're better off. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Alan Douglas" wrote in message news:m8vsf11qmvvtugk8ulmvh4v3q25duejtqh@4ax.com... > Back again, > The VW in question is a 61, bought in Holland. I understand that's > before the Sapphire came out. > > Alan Article: 320855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I finally accquired a Zenith! References: <1123974572.904302.276100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:04:32 GMT Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > Jeff Angus (WA6FWI), > > Your Zenith is one very good radio Thanks. > Hope you get your N-731 set working. I would replace that selenium > rectifier as a matter of course anyway Actually, it's late enough, 1967, that it had a silicon diode in it. (Although it eas one of the larger "top hat" styles. > I would also replace the 3-section electrolytic Did that as a matter of course. 80+60+40 now 100+100+47 uF > That "drifty resistor" job you mentioned The radio is stable, by "drifty resistors" it was also a matter of course to double check the actual values of the resistors in case they had drifted upward too much in value. > As long as radios and TV sets work half decently, there is no need to > replace tubes "just for the heck of it" unless you want to restore the > set to peak performance (past glory, if you will). As I said, it works. Although, the 35C5 had an internal short. Thump the tube and the radio would drop dead. The two 9-pin miniatures have socket problems. This is one of the "cups" on the bottom of the sockets to use as tie points. Both have 1/2 height shields rivited (loose now) to the chassis. > BTW, the model number of your radio is very close to my K-731. Does > yours have a two-way speaker system? Yeah, it does. A regular PM speaker, and a plastic patch next to it that is couple directly to the 35C5 plate. Kind of hard to work on it now though, I've had the network cable job from hell to deal with the past few weeks. Hopefully, I'll get that out of my life within the next couple of days. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Gotta clean bench -- fly in the soup Message-ID: <6wALe.5417$Je.630@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:20:02 GMT Okay, I couldn't decide whether to post this in the binaries, where all the hubbub is right now, or here. Since I didn't include photos, I'll post it here. This all started when I cleaned off and reorganized my bench -- then posted a photo. Suddenly the comments poured in, about how the bench is so neat that it's surreal, and no work can get done. So I panned out so you could see the junk that's on the floor. Then, everyone else began chiming in with photos of their benches, all with varying stages of neatness or clumsiness. Now for the fly in the soup: Lance, the host of Collector Cars TV (local program but about to syndicate in September) has asked me about doing a TV show at my shop, showing what I do with vintage car radios. NOW I've got a real reason to clean up the place! This show will be one that gets syndicated, but I'm not yet sure which markets. When it happens, and when I find out, I'll certainly post it. I've been on the show before, but I've taken props to the studio and done it live. The new syndicated format will be filmed on site. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 320857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42FE0749.1FCBF81@sympatico.ca> <1123948617.fcdef253bef8bfda1a7fb3f47baf0ecb@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:23:41 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > When I attended CalTech for one semester, fall of '65, we built hundreds of > such relaxation oscillators to decorate a huge cave we built. (Don't ask; I > don't have the time to explain.) It looked great. I know.... 1965, the dawn of the hippies. You were attending a cave in. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <_FALe.7000$Rp5.4805@trnddc03> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:30:34 GMT That's a real nice radio. I like! DAve Article: 320859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 01:35:01 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: I finally accquired a Zenith! References: <1123974572.904302.276100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Yeah, it does. A regular PM speaker, and a plastic patch next > to it that is couple directly to the 35C5 plate. Electrostatic tweeter? -BM Article: 320860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Some guys have all the luck Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 23:41:57 -0600 Message-ID: <7109-42FED9A5-775@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1123989161.462149.150780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> I dont know what ``you `` mean . It works different for each person . If i get a good fortune deal no matter who it came from i make sure others get good fortune and deals . It all works out . Last week i went to a ladys house to fix her jukebox and found one wire off . In 15 minutes i had it fixed and charged zero , i did get a glass of Pepsi :-) .. Also sent a radio to PA from ID charging nothing zero not even shipping and dont want anything . I worked on the fiends Zenith Walton who got it for 15$ and charged zero . Do the math :-) Article: 320861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42FEDE46.1B3ABD2F@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's References: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 02:01:42 -0400 Ben, I will scan the schematic from my riders and email them to you tomorrow. If you get them before hand from someone else, let me know. Regards, Sal Brisindi http://www.tuberadios.com Benjamaniac wrote: > I'm looking for a decent scan of three Rider's pages for a Philco 610. > They're in Volume Six, pages 6-19, 6-20 and 6-21. The old BPS copies of > Rider's that I have are all blurred on those pages. Has anyone tried those > new scans that are available on eBay from that guy in Idaho ?? If they're > any good, I think it's about time to invest in a set. > Ben Article: 320862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Ungar Model 6763 Soldering Gun From: Ross Johnson Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 07:36:22 GMT Hello, I hope I'm not breaking any rules but I need help finding a new tip to fit my Ungar Model 6763 Soldering gun. It has the #6751 220 watt, 120 volt cartridge and years back I lost all the tips to it. If anyone has a spare iron-clad tip they would sell me I would really appreciate it. I only need one but two would really be nice. Please email me, (remove the ".nospam" >from the address). Thank you for your help. Best Regards, Ross Article: 320863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Bench Photo's Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:28:39 -0600 Message-ID: Okay...since verybody is posting pics of their bench/shops over on the binaries...if I snap a couple of mine could someone post them for me ?? My isp doesn't "do" bimaries, I have to use one of those Usenet Replayers just to see the pics there. Ben Article: 320864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> <6bALe.7659$ns.652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Message-ID: <97GLe.5865$Je.5714@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:43:01 GMT Yes, On one hand, it's cool to see car radios with shortwave bands on them. They are nonexistent in the US, extremely popular in other countries. Many years ago in Bermuda I remember seeing car stereos in stores -- seems all of them had shortwave. I was tempted to buy one and bring it home. Not all of the VW's had Sapphires or Blaupunkts. Some had Grundigs, and I believe there were a few Beckers, although I THINK these were put in some later ones -- 1970's models. I don't know what is in the Mexican versions. For a simple car that remained virtually the same from World War II up until recently, it sure has had a lot of little variations! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:eantf1lag86aqrkib20lt32hdo2q8i2olo@4ax.com... >I once owned a '61 VW convertible bug, and I believe it had either a > Blaupunkt or a Becker radio in it. I know (in Canada) I've seen a fair > number of Blaupunkts. > > All VWs were 6 volt electrics through the 1966 model year, IIRC. > > I've seen LW and SW bands on Euro car radios, too. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 320865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Internet bugs Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:17:14 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:RhGLe.5875$Je.724@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > I'm posting this message on both the RAR&P and the binaries. > > I'm having a problem reading messages on the binaries, and I'm wondering > if > others are having the same trouble. Yesterday I went to read some new > messages, and a couple of them came up with "message is no longer on the > server." This morning, ALL of the unread messages, even those posted just > a > few hours ago, gave me the same error message. I don't have this problem > with the RAR&P, nor with any other newsgroup I've frequented. I'm using > Outlook. Is this some sort of Outlook thing, or are these messages really > gone? > > Any comments? > This sometimes happens when your ISP has a server issue and some posts get dumped prematurely. My RoadRunner does it all the time. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 320866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: contact cleaner ?? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <091Le.20077$084.403@attbi_s22> <42fe364a$0$16761$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:55:19 GMT In article <42fe364a$0$16761$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, nobodyhere@fakeaddress.com says... > > >Oh, boy: >That's a 10-lifetime supply for me. > >But I like your concept that we need something cheap as a basic >crud-flush. And from your reply, it sounds like you approve Cyclo for >pots. Is that so? > >Regarding Deoxit: I'm under the impression that this isn't so much a >contact cleaner as a preservative. Is that correct? > >Bubba The others have stated correctly the uses for the DeOxit... only thing I do differently is to use the Cyclo to wash the pots and switches out first... with the stuff at 3 bux a can... is a whole lot cheaper than watching that expensive stuff wash out on the table.. and the Caig product has the lubricant that I don't want all over the rest of the chassis... just a small dab a do on the right spots... you can get it in less than case lots of a dozen.. just that the 3 bux per can price goes up a little when U add in the postage costs... still a whole lot cheaper than Antiques Big Bath and others that do the same thing.. John k9uwa Article: 320867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <7mHLe.267161$xm3.16628@attbi_s21> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:07:15 GMT In article <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >http://www.sparkbench.com/xt1.jpg > >http://www.sparkbench.com/xt2.jpg > >-Bill M Very Nice Bill... and yes I agree with the guys Chrome the Esctucheon to really set it off.. One of these days we are going to do a zenith 6s52 this way.. have a cabinet that has substantial damage to the grille area.. and I found a few years ago a chrome escutcheon for one of them... John k9uwa Article: 320868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: FS: large lot NTE Flameproof Resistors Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 09:33:38 -0400 Large assortment of NTE 1/4 and 1/8 watt flameproof NTE resistors, still in the dealer blister display packages. Very large quantity, good spread of values. As is, as taken from the store's display before they closed up. Also, bonus resistors: These were cherry picked, BONUS only, if wanted: NTE five watt resistors in blister packs--these are limited to an assortment of very low fractional ohms and low ohm values. Some standoff type PC mount power resistors--might be fused types?? Assortment of low and high ohm value 1 and 2 watt flameproofs in blister packs. I think there are same 1/2 watts in the pile as well. I estimate there are many hundreds of these packages neatly and tightly packed in a large cardboard box. Will sell for $50.00. I will also consider trading for some common metal tubes I might need, as used in the SX-28; 6AG7, etc.. Will discuss... Photos available. Packettes were marked at $1.50 each... email radioconnection (at) juno (dot) com Article: 320869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123856363.922500.93390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question Message-ID: <_ZHLe.711$sw6.83@fed1read05> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 09:49:46 -0400 "Raymond Koonce" wrote in message news:R86Le.51 > > I had the need to install some neon indicators in a 230VAC application. > I just experimented with R values until V across the neon measured > about 70V or so. I don't remember what exact R value I used, but it > worked fine. > > Regards, > > Raymond > That WON'T work! They are essentially voltage regulators, and once the firing voltage is reached they will try and regulate to a lower voltage. You can't adjust the voltage on the devices by changing the current limiting resistor. Best method is calculating the needed resistance based on the voltage drop needed, and the recommended operating current for the lamp. Peter Article: 320870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I finally accquired a Zenith! References: <1123974572.904302.276100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:54:28 GMT Yeah, I assume so. funny looking, about 3-4 inches square and 1/2 to 3/4" thick. brown plastic bump with two leads. -ex- wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > >> >> Yeah, it does. A regular PM speaker, and a plastic patch next >> to it that is couple directly to the 35C5 plate. > > > Electrostatic tweeter? > > -BM -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: Did Micamold make... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:40:56 -0400 Did Micamold make high value molded resistor packages, in say 10,000 or 20,000 ohm values????? Pete Article: 320872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "K9YA Telegraph" Subject: FREE Ham Radio e-Zine - K9YA Telegraph Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:54:35 GMT K9YA Telegraph - September 2005 Issue Check out the K9YA Telegraph e-Zine-a FREE monthly ham radio magazine. Each issue contains new-never before published articles, pictures and cartoons. Visit our Web site to download samples or subscribe. http://www.k9ya.org September 2005 Issue: FISTS By Philip Cala-Lazar, K9PL If I Had a Time Machine By Daniel Meloch, W1DPM My Name is Nate! By Nate Youngs, N1IDX A Real Cheesy Rig By Dick Sylvan, W9CBT Book Review By Herb Scarpelli, WK9O Mr. Murphy's Days of Glory By Rod Newkirk, VA3ZBB/W9BRD How Many Differences Can You Find? By Dick Sylvan, W9CBT Article: 320873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Some guys have all the luck Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 09:02:52 -0600 Message-ID: <19366-42FF5D1C-767@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1124023043.834978.294340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Eddie calm down :-) Its hard to get you to understand . Thats ok though I just hope i`m behind you at that yard sale with the next 15$ walton :-) Article: 320874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:55:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> Bruce Mercer wrote: > Make that "chrome"... > I vote against chrome. This very nice radio has chrome enough. If the escutcheon is chrome the knobs should be also changed to black with chrome rings (like some Telefunken). Kind Regards, Georg Article: 320875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: GE/Leutz knobs needed Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:36:19 GMT I'm still searching for 2 General Radio/Leutz knobs to complete a Leutz super-het restoration project. Here's a URL to a web page with photos of the needed knob. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/GRknob.html Please search your junque boxes and see if you happen to have a couple of these laying around. Thanks a bunch, Ron Article: 320876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:46:15 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <146e0$42ff837d$4232bd48$24394@COQUI.NET> Bruce Mercer wrote: >>I vote against chrome. >>This very nice radio has chrome enough. >> >>If the escutcheon is chrome the knobs >>should be also changed to black with >>chrome rings (like some Telefunken). >> >>Kind Regards, >>Georg > > > I thought about that too but I do think it needs one or the > other. Both might be overkill. Just as it is it would sure > look nice sitting on my computer desk. > > Bruce > > I'm keeping it original. Don't think I could chrome the bakelite escutcheon anyway :) although I agree it would look pretty sharp. By the way...this is a LARGE radio. About 18 inches tall and weighs in close to 30 pounds!! -bill Article: 320877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Big objects Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:26:48 +0200 Message-ID: Hi all, remembering some discussion about big consoles ... this one would really fit: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6543022526 (German text) enjoy the pictures! Kind Regards, Georg Article: 320878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: Subject: Re: GE/Leutz knobs needed Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:05:01 GMT Geeze, went to a hamfest this morning in Matamoras NJ. and i know a guy had a box full of knobs like these. "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:niLLe.126668$3j2.4238009@twister.southeast.rr.com... > I'm still searching for 2 General Radio/Leutz knobs to complete > a Leutz super-het restoration project. > Here's a URL to a web page with photos of the needed > knob. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/GRknob.html > > Please search your junque boxes and see if you happen > to have a couple of these laying around. > > Thanks a bunch, > > Ron Article: 320879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" Subject: Wind up Phono Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:58:54 -1200 What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on it - either. I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to have that sitting on my shelf. CLF -- **************************** visit - www.clfurent.com Article: 320880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:41:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> <146e0$42ff837d$4232bd48$24394@COQUI.NET> -ex- wrote: > Bruce Mercer wrote: > >> (I wrote ;-) > >>I vote against chrome. > >>This very nice radio has chrome enough. > >> > >>If the escutcheon is chrome the knobs > >>should be also changed to black with > >>chrome rings (like some Telefunken). > >> > >>Kind Regards, > >>Georg > > > > > > I thought about that too but I do think it needs one or the > > other. Both might be overkill. Just as it is it would sure > > look nice sitting on my computer desk. > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > I'm keeping it original. Don't think I could chrome the bakelite > escutcheon anyway :) although I agree it would look pretty sharp. > By the way...this is a LARGE radio. About 18 inches tall and weighs in > close to 30 pounds!! Now let's discuss about about SBR model 836A: http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_modell.cfm?model_id=75168 has chrome, but would it need more black or more brown? (Detail on abpr, if you can't see the big pictures) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 320881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:58:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> <42feab89@nntp.onyx.net> <2b3e6$42feb8d4$4232bd1b$6053@COQUI.NET> Bruce Mercer wrote: > I have to ask, what is that covering the back of the speaker and what is > it's purpose? A dust cover? Dust cover. Maybe the baffle was prefabricated. I've recapped a Grundig SO-147 with speakers face-down, the dust covers has made sense, really. > I've seen that on other European radios and wondered 'why'. Also, what does > the back cover look > like? Wood frame with screen wire? Depends on. Wood or carton. Some less with conductive foil. For the model in question: don't know. > > btw, it's not too tall or too heavy for my computer table. :-) Nothing is too tall or too heavy, if not off price-limit like the Kuba Komet ;-) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 320882 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123856363.922500.93390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_ZHLe.711$sw6.83@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:46:41 -0500 Uncle Peter wrote: > "Raymond Koonce" wrote in message news:R86Le.51 > > >>I had the need to install some neon indicators in a 230VAC application. >> I just experimented with R values until V across the neon measured >>about 70V or so. I don't remember what exact R value I used, but it >>worked fine. >> >>Regards, >> >>Raymond >> > > > That WON'T work! They are essentially voltage regulators, and once the > firing voltage is reached they will try and regulate to a lower voltage. > > You can't adjust the voltage on the devices by changing the current limiting > resistor. Best method is calculating the needed resistance based on the > voltage drop needed, and the recommended operating current for the > lamp. > > > Peter > Hi Uncle Pete, Please explain why it won't work. It seemed to work OK and they're still working after several months of operation. Raymond Article: 320883 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> <42feab89@nntp.onyx.net> <2b3e6$42feb8d4$4232bd1b$6053@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <42ffcaef@nntp.onyx.net> -ex- wrote: > Martin Crossley wrote: > > >> It's absolutely gorgeous and very Philips 838U-ish. >> (SBR=Belgian) >> >> Could you show a rear view of the chassis? >> Martin. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/xt4.jpg > > Don't razz me just yet for not finishing off the back edges... > > Thanks for the tidbit about SBR. My German 'helper' who facilitated > the purchase and shipping kinda e-shook his head and e-mumbled > something to the effect of a "who knows?" Benelux radio. Now we have > all three Benelux countries accounted for in this set. > > Its the 529-AU version chassis. I also have here a Philips 529-HU so > I can recognize the differences. You'll notice just under the CF 1 > tube the studs are in place for pressing on a Philips model number > plate. They have never been pressed. The back cover has a Philips > plate with a model number...not very readable...and also a Philips > plate saying "under license to SEM/SBR" > > -Bill Hello Bill, Thanks for the rear view pic. Lovely again! (I wouldn't even have noticed the back edges; they look fine to me now, as-is.) Looks like you've added a fuse and a thermistor to the mains input? Interesting set of valves: (I'm used to the Mullard versions:CK1= FC13,CF1= SP13 PEN26 Looks like this was the same with Philips & Mullard, UR1= CY1) Is there a 2D1 or CB1 double-diode lurking somewhere for the detector? You've inspired me to take a second look at my Philips 840HU TRF set, which is missing various bits, but has a fair cabinet. Thanks again, Martin. Article: 320884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123856363.922500.93390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_ZHLe.711$sw6.83@fed1read05> Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:11:44 -0400 > > > Hi Uncle Pete, > > Please explain why it won't work. It seemed to work OK and they're > still working after several months of operation. > > Raymond > Hello Ray The neon bulb will try the regulate the voltage to 90 volts (peak, not RMS for AC), regardless of the resistance used. Varying the resistance might cause some small variation of the voltage due to IR losses in the bulb, but the correct method is to use a resistor calculated to limit the current to that rated for the particular lamp. Pete Article: 320885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123856363.922500.93390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_ZHLe.711$sw6.83@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:15:59 GMT Raymond Koonce wrote: > Uncle Peter wrote: > >> "Raymond Koonce" wrote in message news:R86Le.51 > >> >>> I had the need to install some neon indicators in a 230VAC application. >>> I just experimented with R values until V across the neon measured >>> about 70V or so. I don't remember what exact R value I used, but it >>> worked fine. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Raymond >>> >> >> >> That WON'T work! They are essentially voltage regulators, and once the >> firing voltage is reached they will try and regulate to a lower voltage. >> >> You can't adjust the voltage on the devices by changing the current >> limiting >> resistor. Best method is calculating the needed resistance based on the >> voltage drop needed, and the recommended operating current for the >> lamp. >> >> >> Peter >> > Hi Uncle Pete, > > Please explain why it won't work. It seemed to work OK and they're > still working after several months of operation. > > Raymond > Some one already explained the problem. The Neon fires at 65 to 70 volts or so. Then the voltage goes to 15 volts or so. You should measure the current after the bulb fires and keep that current within ratings for the bulb. Bill K7NOM Article: 320886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" Subject: Speaker Grill Cloth for Telefunken Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:36:20 GMT Does anybody know any sources for speaker cloth for Telefunken Opus 6. 7 or Concertino series? Omer Article: 320887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: Ungar Model 6763 Soldering Gun Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:38:30 GMT Google what you are looking for, there might be a possibility that something comes up. Omer "Ross Johnson" wrote in message news:Xns96B26293B72Ejohnsonralwavecablec@69.28.186.121... > Hello, > > I hope I'm not breaking any rules but I need help finding a new tip to fit > my Ungar Model 6763 Soldering gun. It has the #6751 220 watt, 120 volt > cartridge and years back I lost all the tips to it. If anyone has a spare > iron-clad tip they would sell me I would really appreciate it. I only > need > one but two would really be nice. Please email me, (remove the ".nospam" > from the address). Thank you for your help. > > Best Regards, > Ross Article: 320888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:57:59 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> <42feab89@nntp.onyx.net> <2b3e6$42feb8d4$4232bd1b$6053@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <21061$42ffda8a$4232be57$5409@COQUI.NET> Bruce Mercer wrote: > > I have to ask, what is that covering the back of the speaker and what is > it's purpose? A dust cover? > I've seen that on other European radios and wondered 'why'. Also, what does > the back cover look > like? Wood frame with screen wire? > Tnx > Bruce Here's the back cover. http://www.sparkbench.com/xt5.jpg Has little leather hinges at the top! Actually thats a pain in the butt because you need to remove the whole panel to do any serious work. -Bill Article: 320889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question From: Larry References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42FE0749.1FCBF81@sympatico.ca> <1123948617.fcdef253bef8bfda1a7fb3f47baf0ecb@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:08:43 -0400 "william_b_noble" wrote in news:1123948617.fcdef253bef8bfda1a7fb3f47baf0ecb@teranews: > the flashes will have become random, when the lights are on. when > off, the emissions from one bulb triggers nearby bulbs and you get a > very nice cascade effect. > > Ever hook 'em up in sequence? ---------------------------------C-------------------------------------| | | | --------------------------------------------------------------->+DC | |-| | | | | | | |----------| R R R R R R R R | | | | | | | | |---C----|---C----|---C---|---C---|---C---|---C---|---C---| N N N N N N N N | | | | | | | | --------------------------------------------------------------->-DC ONE, and only one bulb will always be lit, not just blink. The NE-2s blink in sequence whos speed is set by R (1M) and C (1uf). You can make the string as long as you like, just disconnect the feedback C and add more RCN circuits to it. Runs great on over 90VDC, much brighter on +250. If you want random on, just remove feedback C. I used to make ship's plaques of our destroyer tender come alive with sequential, seemingly free powered, "Med Lights" from bow up and across the masts to stern. Just the tip of the NE2 came through the hole to the viewing side. The eight 22V photoflash batteries in series were placed inside the plaque with the RC networks in a cutout in the wood back. The brass ship unscrewed to get the back off to replace the batteries every couple of years....a project VERY important to VERY senior officers...fascinated by our deluxe model plaques....(c; Neon timers are fun! As I used to tell my electronic students, "Small minds ARE easily amused."....(c; -- Larry Article: 320890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: NE2 neon lamp question From: Larry References: <1123839798.898289.5110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42FE0749.1FCBF81@sympatico.ca> <1123948617.fcdef253bef8bfda1a7fb3f47baf0ecb@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:11:56 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in news:qf2dneQeK543pWPfRVn-qw@comcast.com: > When I attended CalTech for one semester, fall of '65, we built > hundreds of such relaxation oscillators to decorate a huge cave we > built. (Don't ask; I don't have the time to explain.) It looked great. > > While the hackers at MIT were busy transforming buildings into random hallways, extending the Harvard football field out 10 more yards without being detected and putting a full-sized campus police vehicle on top of the dome, piece by piece...(c; The entrance to the new MIT president's office was expertly transformed into a bulletin board in the hallway....too funny. -- Larry Article: 320891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:28:54 GMT "clfe" wrote in message news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one > today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at > a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I > didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. > I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the > case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to > be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully > bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it > wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. > Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on > it - either. > > I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to have > that sitting on my shelf. > > CLF > > -- > **************************** > visit - www.clfurent.com > It was probably 78, but you don't say whether it was a portable unit or not. Was it a large phonograph? In any case, Victors are collectable units. Write back. Article: 320892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Speaker Grill Cloth for Telefunken Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:32:45 GMT "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:UzQLe.5252$Wi6.1992@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Does anybody know any sources for speaker cloth for Telefunken Opus 6. 7 > or Concertino series? > > Omer > I have not seen that specific radio's Grill cloth but try these guys (if you have not already :~) Paul P http://www.grillecloth.com/pages/rubini.html or http://www.grillecloth.com/pages/palette1.html #53 or the other pages..... Article: 320893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1124064888.530462.161530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - Mechanical Repeaters - OT Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:35:26 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1124064888.530462.161530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > OK... What is the term for an electrical unit that will transmit its > rotational position over 360 degrees to a remote location? Typically > for wind-direction, rudder pitch and such. > > I have seen such in the past, there was a technical term for them which > has escaped me. I will explain the connection to radios in the very > near future. > > Thanks in advance! > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Peter, Try researching SYNCHROS. They are basically motor like devices whose shaft rotation will follow each other's movement. There were a lot of 400 Hz surplus units on the market at one time. Pete Article: 320894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: OT - Mechanical Repeaters - OT Message-ID: References: <1124064888.530462.161530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:43:26 -0500 Selsyns, aka selsyn motors On 14 Aug 2005 17:14:48 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >OK... What is the term for an electrical unit that will transmit its >rotational position over 360 degrees to a remote location? Typically >for wind-direction, rudder pitch and such. > >I have seen such in the past, there was a technical term for them which >has escaped me. I will explain the connection to radios in the very >near future. > >Thanks in advance! > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA Article: 320895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1124064888.530462.161530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - Mechanical Repeaters - OT Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:56:06 -0400 Sylsyn is a trademark, as far as I know. I stand by synchro being the the generic term for the device. Here's a good webpage on their operation and history for you Peter. http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-051.htm Article: 320896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Did Micamold make... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:04:39 -0400 I received a reply that they did, if anyone is interested in knowing. Pete . " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:ZJILe.713$sw6.51@fed1read05... > Did Micamold make high value molded resistor packages, in say > 10,000 or 20,000 ohm values????? > > > Pete > > Article: 320897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42FFEB96.26E2D88B@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's References: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:10:46 -0400 Ben, Check your email, I scanned the 3 pages for you. Regards, Sal Benjamaniac wrote: > I'm looking for a decent scan of three Rider's pages for a Philco 610. > They're in Volume Six, pages 6-19, 6-20 and 6-21. The old BPS copies of > Rider's that I have are all blurred on those pages. Has anyone tried those > new scans that are available on eBay from that guy in Idaho ?? If they're > any good, I think it's about time to invest in a set. > Ben Article: 320898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:17:49 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Speaker Grill Cloth for Telefunken References: Message-ID: <6a08f$42ffed44$4232be57$9270@COQUI.NET> Paul P wrote: > "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message > news:UzQLe.5252$Wi6.1992@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > >>Does anybody know any sources for speaker cloth for Telefunken Opus 6. 7 >>or Concertino series? >> >>Omer >> Have you looked here? http://www.radioverzameling.nl/repro/uk/ -Bill Article: 320899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: 14 Aug 2005 20:19:05 -0500 Message-ID: <42ffed04$0$16810$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> <6bALe.7659$ns.652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <97GLe.5865$Je.5714@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Gary Tayman wrote: > Yes, > > On one hand, it's cool to see car radios with shortwave bands on them. They > are nonexistent in the US, extremely popular in other countries. Many years > ago in Bermuda I remember seeing car stereos in stores -- seems all of them > had shortwave. I was tempted to buy one and bring it home. > > Not all of the VW's had Sapphires or Blaupunkts. Some had Grundigs, and I > believe there were a few Beckers, although I THINK these were put in some > later ones -- 1970's models. I don't know what is in the Mexican versions. > For a simple car that remained virtually the same from World War II up until > recently, it sure has had a lot of little variations! > Blaupunkt was incredible during the 60s. I think that I still have a US-spec Frankfurt in the basement (don't know the condition) right now. I had installed it in my '62 2-stroke SAAB, which, due to an extra-high voltage coil (to fire through the two-stroke gas/oil mixture) and a long 2.5 foot coil wire, made it a noise broadcaster. When you were watching TV, you knew when a SAAB turned the corner onto your street. Blaupunkt made an incredible range of custom installation kits for every car that existed. So, you could get an installation kit to fit the radio into your car, plus a noise supression kit custom for the model, plus additional noise suppression parts, like special hood ground straps and copper contact fingers, in addition to the "ordinary" capacitors. In the case of the SAAB, that installation kit was pretty specific, because the car had no place for the radio to go other than inside the glove compartment, which had a knockout panel in the glove compartment door. Blaupunkt's mounting kit contained the radio fascia, plus custom brackets. The noise kit was separate. So, you bought three things. The radio seemed very solid and packed. The reception was excellent, inncluding on shortwave. Tonal balance was very good. My only complaint was that the amplifier gave crossover distortion -- it delivered early transistor audio -- it always sounded like it had a sore throat. I think that the US manufacturers such as Delco and Motorola had Blaupunkt beat in this respect. I'm certain that Blaupunkt had everything figured out so that they could play mix-and-match with all the products. My point is that I'll bet that a trip to the right junkyard should produce some goodies for you. The only Bubba that you'll ever need. Article: 320900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Date: 14 Aug 2005 20:24:07 -0500 Message-ID: <42ffee19$0$16763$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: george conklin wrote: > "clfe" wrote in message > news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > >>What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one >>today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at >>a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I >>didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. >>I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the >>case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to >>be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully >>bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it >>wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. >>Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on >>it - either. >> >>I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to have >>that sitting on my shelf. >> >>CLF >> >>-- >>**************************** >>visit - www.clfurent.com >> > > > It was probably 78, but you don't say whether it was a portable unit or > not. Was it a large phonograph? In any case, Victors are collectable > units. Write back. > I seen one too. It said "Victer Talking Machnine Compny," had two cranks and three horns. It came with a "Genuine Certificit of Authenticitee." Bubba Bubba Article: 320901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:29:29 -0600 Message-ID: References: <42FFEB96.26E2D88B@optonline.net> Sal...Got them...thanks a million !!!!! Ben "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:42FFEB96.26E2D88B@optonline.net... > Ben, > Check your email, I scanned the 3 pages for you. > > Regards, > Sal > > Benjamaniac wrote: > >> I'm looking for a decent scan of three Rider's pages for a Philco >> 610. >> They're in Volume Six, pages 6-19, 6-20 and 6-21. The old BPS copies of >> Rider's that I have are all blurred on those pages. Has anyone tried >> those >> new scans that are available on eBay from that guy in Idaho ?? If they're >> any good, I think it's about time to invest in a set. >> Ben > Article: 320902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> <6bALe.7659$ns.652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <97GLe.5865$Je.5714@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <42ffed04$0$16810$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:44:46 GMT I've had my share of Blaupunkts come across this bench. My overall evaluation: these radios were well designed, and performed well particularly in terms of great reception. However they are a pain in the butt to work on because they are so tightly packed -- and it seems everything in the entire set is held together with rivets. Add that to the poor-quality component issue, and these are a real problem. People find these things in junkyards, and they are toast -- but people think they're great radios, so they'll gladly pull it out and get it fixed -- and wonder why nobody wants to work on them. Due to the component failure problem, they are overrated. On the other hand, Becker is a much better product in my opinion. Not only are they good-looking radios with a good "feel" to them, they have decent reception and really sound great. Plus, I DON'T see many of these on my bench; think about it. On one occasion I had a 70's Becker -- the only radio I've ever seen with AM/FM stereo, cassette player, and fully-functioning springwound wonderbar. It was put together like a Swiss watch. There was a part needed for the cassette deck. I called Becker which has a US office (I think Atlanta), and got someone who who was extremely helpful with information on exactly what I needed -- on this 30-year-old radio! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "CalBubba" wrote in message news:42ffed04$0$16810$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> Yes, >> >> On one hand, it's cool to see car radios with shortwave bands on them. >> They are nonexistent in the US, extremely popular in other countries. >> Many years ago in Bermuda I remember seeing car stereos in stores -- >> seems all of them had shortwave. I was tempted to buy one and bring it >> home. >> >> Not all of the VW's had Sapphires or Blaupunkts. Some had Grundigs, and >> I believe there were a few Beckers, although I THINK these were put in >> some later ones -- 1970's models. I don't know what is in the Mexican >> versions. For a simple car that remained virtually the same from World >> War II up until recently, it sure has had a lot of little variations! >> > > Blaupunkt was incredible during the 60s. I think that I still have a > US-spec Frankfurt in the basement (don't know the condition) right now. I > had installed it in my '62 2-stroke SAAB, which, due to an extra-high > voltage coil (to fire through the two-stroke gas/oil mixture) and a long > 2.5 foot coil wire, made it a noise broadcaster. When you were watching > TV, you knew when a SAAB turned the corner onto your street. > > Blaupunkt made an incredible range of custom installation kits for every > car that existed. So, you could get an installation kit to fit the radio > into your car, plus a noise supression kit custom for the model, plus > additional noise suppression parts, like special hood ground straps and > copper contact fingers, in addition to the "ordinary" capacitors. In the > case of the SAAB, that installation kit was pretty specific, because the > car had no place for the radio to go other than inside the glove > compartment, which had a knockout panel in the glove compartment door. > Blaupunkt's mounting kit contained the radio fascia, plus custom brackets. > The noise kit was separate. So, you bought three things. > > The radio seemed very solid and packed. The reception was excellent, > inncluding on shortwave. Tonal balance was very good. My only complaint > was that the amplifier gave crossover distortion -- it delivered early > transistor audio -- it always sounded like it had a sore throat. I think > that the US manufacturers such as Delco and Motorola had Blaupunkt beat in > this respect. > > I'm certain that Blaupunkt had everything figured out so that they could > play mix-and-match with all the products. My point is that I'll bet that a > trip to the right junkyard should produce some goodies for you. > > The only Bubba that you'll ever need. Article: 320903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:26:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:37:58 -0400 Alan Douglas wrote: > A friend wants to install this in one of his vintage VWs, but we >have no idea how the speaker connects, or how to switch negative and >positive ground (there was evidently a different jumper plug to do >that, from the one that came installed). Can anyone point me to a >schematic, or ideally send one? Seems to be a well-made tube model, >with AM and FM. Blaupunkts changed year by year and there were different models. To get the right schematic you need to give the model name AND the first letter of the serial number, which advanced one letter each year. I only have one early Blaupunkt which is part tube and part SS, by that time the 6V/12V switch was a PC wafer which got inserted one way or the other to choose the voltage. The same for a different wafer which choose the polarity. The ones I'm familiar with, use a speaker connection which consists of 3 female sockets arranged in a triangle. One socket is common, and there are markings between it and the 2 other sockets. A single bar marking indicates "connect 1 speaker between these 2 points"; 2 bars indicates "connect 2 speakers in parallel between these 2 points." Blaupunkt speakers came with a special plug which plugged in there, but they LOOK like they would accept standard banana plugs (I've never tried that.) The most common AM-FM Blaupunkt in this country was the Frankfort US, so your friend might have, for example, a T-series Frankfort US. While VWoA sold the Sapphire line, made by Bendix and Motorola, some US dealers, and quite a few aftermarket suppliers also sold the Blaupunkt line as a better option. I'm surprised at Gary's opinion of the Blaupunkt component quality, but he has a LOT more experience with these than I do. I agree that they sure packed a lot of parts into that little space and they are a bit of work to work on. If you bought a Blaupunkt autoradio, you also needed to buy the proper installation kit for your car. The installation kit included the mounting hardware, bezel, knobs, and speaker, all of which was customized to fit in that particular car with a Blaupunkt radio. The Sapphire radios came with their own installation kits which did NOT work with the Blaupunkt radios. If your friend hopes to install this radio in his '61 Beetle, he will have to have all the mounting kit parts, which can be hard to find. I've got a beetle speaker if he wants it. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 320904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" Subject: hallicrafters model SX-130 Message-ID: <42fffbb5@news.meer.net> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:19:31 -0400 What is the Hallicrafters model SX-130 worth? It is in working order and only has a couple of small scratch marks on the top. Thanks From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 17 10:35:01 EDT 2005 Article: 320905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:07:27 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-463.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320905 Hi, >Blaupunkts changed year by year and there were different models. To >get the right schematic you need to give the model name AND the first >letter of the serial number, which advanced one letter each year. Well there's certainly more to this than meets the eye. The serial is E 793375. Given the time, I can take his standard bezel and mill it out to fit the radio. It won't leave a lot of metal on the top and bottom edges, but my friend says these bezels are easy to get, if this one breaks. We still need a schematic though, if only to figure out where the speaker connects. There's a 6-pin (I recall) plug on a shielded cable coming out of the set, and a matching socket on the side, and some of the wires are broken off the plug. Alan Article: 320906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:37:31 -1200 "george conklin" wrote in message news:alRLe.6189$Je.689@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > "clfe" wrote in message > news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one >> today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at >> a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I >> didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. >> I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the >> case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to >> be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully >> bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it >> wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. >> Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on >> it - either. >> >> I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to >> have that sitting on my shelf. >> >> CLF >> >> -- >> **************************** >> visit - www.clfurent.com >> > > It was probably 78, but you don't say whether it was a portable unit or > not. Was it a large phonograph? In any case, Victors are collectable > units. Write back. > Actually - this was a "portable" appearing unit. I think that was what amazed me the most about it. I can't give "actual" dimensions, but it looked to be about the size of say 14" x 14" x say 8" . Maybe about a 20lb unit. clf CLF Article: 320907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <42ffee19$0$16763$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:38:26 -1200 "CalBubba" wrote in message news:42ffee19$0$16763$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > george conklin wrote: >> "clfe" wrote in message >> news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> >>>What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one >>>today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at >>>a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I >>>didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. >>>I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the >>>case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to >>>be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully >>>bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it >>>wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. >>>Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on >>>it - either. >>> >>>I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to >>>have that sitting on my shelf. >>> >>>CLF >>> >>>-- >>>**************************** >>>visit - www.clfurent.com >>> >> >> >> It was probably 78, but you don't say whether it was a portable unit >> or not. Was it a large phonograph? In any case, Victors are collectable >> units. Write back. > > I seen one too. It said "Victer Talking Machnine Compny," had two cranks > and three horns. It came with a "Genuine Certificit of Authenticitee." > > Bubba > > Bubba This one only had one crank and I didn't see any horns. clf Article: 320908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:39:06 -1200 "Sal D'Ambra" wrote in message news:APadnfph87H4b2LfRVn-pA@comcast.com... > Hi, > > I am to assume this is a portable because you mention cloth on the case. > These cloth covered portables are not particularly valuable, maybe $100 at > best if in fantastic condition. > > Sal > > -- > Sal D'Ambra > Blue Ridge Summit, PA > "clfe" wrote in message > news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one >> today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at > a >> pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I didn't >> get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. I > didn't >> look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the case was > in >> what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to be wanting >> to >> separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully bad. Thought >> about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it wasn't sold. >> Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. Of course, I > was >> riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on it - either. >> >> I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to >> have >> that sitting on my shelf. >> >> CLF >> >> -- >> **************************** >> visit - www.clfurent.com >> >> > > Ok, thanks... will have to see if it is there next week and ask about the price. CLF Article: 320909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: GE/Leutz knobs needed References: <9tSdnVp_Z6FQZmLfRVn-gA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 03:25:39 GMT Larry Fowkes wrote: > Sorry I can't help on the knobs but I had to say your radio room is > beautiful. What a great place that must be to spend your spare time. Sit > back and relax with a nice drink and just revel in being surrounded by so > much history, maybe listening to an old Inner Sanctum episode..... > Thanks Larry, it is my favorite place in the world. My own "Inter Sanctum" so to speak. My wife like to sleep late on Sundays, so I get to spend my Sunday mornings piddling in the display room or the little work shop. Some nice tunes on the vintage stereo a good cup of coffee, and a nice stogie. That's when life is good. Thanks for visiting. Best regards Ron in Radio Heaven Article: 320910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Big objects References: <1124073160.269267.54390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <71ULe.8008$ns.61@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 03:32:19 GMT > > The ETF site's description of the KUBA Komet set said the TV covered > VHF and UHF channels. The German channels, maybe, but I seriously doubt > the Komet's continuous tuner would take in even half the U.S. UHF TV > spectrum. Even if it did, the German and U.S. television standards > differ enough that the Komet's TV would not function well (or probably > at all) on analog U.S. TV stations--and when this country's TV > standards go digital, forget it. > Get a DVD player, set it to PAL mode, feed the luma video output to a modulator as well as mono sound. But the modulator needs to be compatible with what they use in Germany (channel frequency, and sound subcarrier frequency (probably 5.5MHz FM)). Scanvage one out of a German VCR. Enjoy. Article: 320911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Mechanical Repeaters - OT References: <1124064888.530462.161530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:45:50 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > OK... What is the term for an electrical unit that will transmit its > rotational position over 360 degrees to a remote location? Typically > for wind-direction, rudder pitch and such. Synchro is the correct name; at least since W.W.II. There are two basic types of synchros: single phase and three phase. Single phase are generally used as indicators; while three phase are either in power (motive) or high precision networks (i.e. where the phase angle is modified by more than one device (usually control transmitter, or differential resolver). Synchros can be wired as motive (where the output is mechanical - i.e. when one is mechanically turned, the other follows); or derivative (where the output is electrical - i.e. where the output of the second is an "error" signal phase (and amplitude) shifted from the reference input- such phase angle (and amplitude) the electrical equivalent of the offset of the two (or more) devices in the circuit). Most synchros found today are 400 cycle (since W.W.II) due to their smaller size, etc. - however - the US Navy used 60 cycle stuff in many fire control systems through the 70's and 80's (my set of 18CT/CX are dated 1965). 10kc synchros were used in high accuracy systems like submarine's SINS (Ships Inertial Navigation System) where the accuracy needed to be in arc seconds rather than degrees. The heading inductosyn of an Autonetics SINS stable platform outputs 360 electrical degrees for every 2 mechanical degrees of rotation, for instance. Most (not all) 400hz synchros can be run on 60 cycles when used in low-torque motive service (i.e. direction indicator where the load is a pointer) by running at 1/2 rated voltage. Keep in mind - the torque will be quite low, and they will run quite warm. Look for marine service devices - particularly in old (Sperry) compass repeaters, and such (most of those were 60cycle). Airplane stuff - while common, will tend to be low voltage - and often 400cycle. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 320912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: 15 Aug 2005 00:35:02 -0500 Message-ID: <430028ef$0$16800$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> <6bALe.7659$ns.652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <97GLe.5865$Je.5714@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <42ffed04$0$16810$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > > On the other hand, Becker is a much better product in my opinion. Not only > are they good-looking radios with a good "feel" to them, they have decent > reception and really sound great. Plus, I DON'T see many of these on my > bench; think about it. On one occasion I had a 70's Becker -- the only > radio I've ever seen with AM/FM stereo, cassette player, and > fully-functioning springwound wonderbar. It was put together like a Swiss > watch. There was a part needed for the cassette deck. I called Becker > which has a US office (I think Atlanta), and got someone who who was > extremely helpful with information on exactly what I needed -- on this > 30-year-old radio! > That's a great story. I had a similar experience with HH Scott not long before their dissolution into Emerson. I recall that Becker was more expensive than Blaupunkt -- and more detail-oriented. The only place I ever saw them was in Mercedes cars. Bubba Article: 320913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Big objects Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:47:59 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1124073160.269267.54390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:qaGdndVA6_DZgp3eRVn-hA@giganews.com... > > The FM radio may or may not work here, > > depending entirely on which FM band it is designed for. If it tunes the > > German FM broadcast band, forget about using it to listen to American > > FM broadcasts. If, however, the FM in the Komet is set up for the > > 88-108 MHz band > > Maybe I'm nuts, but my few postwar German (& other Euro) radios with FM > receive the same band as US, only stopping around 100 mhz rather than 108. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 320914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Big objects Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:49:07 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1124073160.269267.54390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:qaGdndVA6_DZgp3eRVn-hA@giganews.com... > > The FM radio may or may not work here, > > depending entirely on which FM band it is designed for. If it tunes the > > German FM broadcast band, forget about using it to listen to American > > FM broadcasts. If, however, the FM in the Komet is set up for the > > 88-108 MHz band > > Maybe I'm nuts, but my few postwar German (& other Euro) radios with FM > receive the same band as US, only stopping around 100 mhz rather than 108. Same here.. I've had some that went to 100MHz, and some that went to 104 MHz. Anything much after the mid-late 50's goes all the way to 108, in my experience. Article: 320915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT - Mechanical Repeaters - OT Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:35:27 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124064888.530462.161530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> ive used transducers that supplied a dual quadrature signal which could be decoded to determine position as well as angular velocity... was it something along those lines? randy "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1124064888.530462.161530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > OK... What is the term for an electrical unit that will transmit its > rotational position over 360 degrees to a remote location? Typically > for wind-direction, rudder pitch and such. > > I have seen such in the past, there was a technical term for them which > has escaped me. I will explain the connection to radios in the very > near future. > > Thanks in advance! > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 320916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Message-ID: References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> <6bALe.7659$ns.652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <97GLe.5865$Je.5714@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <42ffed04$0$16810$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:01:36 GMT Well, I just went and looked. I have here a Becker Europa TR. Transistorized radio, two chassis. has LW, MW, SW, and 88-108 MHz FM band. I'd given it to my sister and brother in law to use in their remote cabin, but it got hooked up to reverse polarity and uh, stopped working. I wonder if it's fixable, and if so, is it worth doing so? When it worked, it was a lovely radio. Gordon Richmond Article: 320917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "J. 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I have seen it on display in a glass = case, my whole=20 life.  Its time to do something with this Magnetophon AEG = Telefunken=20 1937 recorder.  Can anyone tell me about it?  I = researched with=20 little success. What is it worth today?  Sell? What about donating = it to an=20 archive or sound museum?  Any insight, info, and opinions are=20 welcome.  Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C5A13E.A7446990-- Article: 320918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <7ojsf1dogh1qrm2hbh7husfifvdulgim12@4ax.com> <6bALe.7659$ns.652@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <97GLe.5865$Je.5714@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <42ffed04$0$16810$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:24:21 GMT I think you've answered your own question. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:g8f0g1hr2tauvppaf8rfpk9kb27kgogck1@4ax.com... > Well, I just went and looked. I have here a Becker Europa TR. > > Transistorized radio, two chassis. has LW, MW, SW, and 88-108 MHz FM > band. > > I'd given it to my sister and brother in law to use in their remote > cabin, but it got hooked up to reverse polarity and uh, stopped > working. > > I wonder if it's fixable, and if so, is it worth doing so? > > When it worked, it was a lovely radio. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 320919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: <42ffee19$0$16763$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:08:04 GMT "CalBubba" wrote in message news:42ffee19$0$16763$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > george conklin wrote: >> "clfe" wrote in message >> news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> >>>What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one >>>today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at >>>a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I >>>didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. >>>I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the >>>case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to >>>be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully >>>bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it >>>wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. >>>Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on >>>it - either. >>> >>>I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to >>>have that sitting on my shelf. >>> >>>CLF >>> >>>-- >>>**************************** >>>visit - www.clfurent.com >>> >> >> >> It was probably 78, but you don't say whether it was a portable unit >> or not. Was it a large phonograph? In any case, Victors are collectable >> units. Write back. > > I seen one too. It said "Victer Talking Machnine Compny," had two cranks > and three horns. It came with a "Genuine Certificit of Authenticitee." > > Bubba > > Bubba Cheap crap-o-phones from India are a possibility these days. I have seen them as low as $120 these days, but sold as new. Article: 320920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: WTB: manual + probes... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:18:04 GMT ...for Rider RCA Chanalyst later version. Probes would be welcome. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 320921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve B. Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet Message-ID: <5f41g1lrab85tf7vtkqha9ltjret1ipiab@4ax.com> References: <7%LHe.7415$0C.5376@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:01:24 GMT On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:37:28 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >If you came a couple of year ago, you probably went to the Lions club on >Tuttle Avenue. > >The Knights of Columbus is much easier to get to. Get off I-75 Exit 210, >Fruitville Road. Head west about a mile, past the big shopping centers. >Look to your left -- you'll see an Advance Auto Parts, BP/Amoco, and KFC. >Get in your left lane and slow down -- it's just past these on the left. So how was the Sarasota show? I wanted to come down for it but what with putting all my extra money in to unleaded these days figured I had better stay home... Steve B. Article: 320922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <6a08f$42ffed44$4232be57$9270@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Speaker Grill Cloth for Telefunken Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:27:02 GMT Great site Ex! Thanks for posting it. Paul P. "-ex-" wrote in message news:6a08f$42ffed44$4232be57$9270@COQUI.NET... > Paul P wrote: > >> "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message >> news:UzQLe.5252$Wi6.1992@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> >>>Does anybody know any sources for speaker cloth for Telefunken Opus 6. 7 >>>or Concertino series? >>> >>>Omer >>> > > Have you looked here? > http://www.radioverzameling.nl/repro/uk/ > > -Bill > Article: 320923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1123935038.404560.238940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b271$42fde62c$4232bd0a$14155@COQUI.NET> <1124112703.024390.275320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough caught in a lie Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:27:35 GMT "66fourdoor" wrote in message news:1124112703.024390.275320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > the many usernames of -x- > > interesting.... There's no secret who Bill is, he's been a very valuable member of this group for a long time. jim menning Article: 320924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:35:14 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough caught in a lie References: <1123935038.404560.238940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b271$42fde62c$4232bd0a$14155@COQUI.NET> <1124112703.024390.275320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: jim menning wrote: > "66fourdoor" wrote in message > news:1124112703.024390.275320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > >>the many usernames of -x- >> >>interesting.... > > > > There's no secret who Bill is, he's been a very valuable member of > this group for a long time. > > jim menning > > Actually, "-x-" is not a posting name I've ever used. Hey, 8-track...plonk again. -Bill Article: 320925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lbs" References: Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:37:59 +1000 Message-ID: <4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> I would be very careful. Most of the units of this type are fakes or make ups from old units mostly originating in India. At best it is likely to be a mishmash of non matching bits. Vie seen some pretty bad examples which won't even play properly for $1000's when in fact they are worthless. What you seem to be describing is a table top type. If the wind up Handel comes out >from the top it is definitely fake. Incidentally in Australia you would expect to find it branded HMV. Victor is US branding. If you can get a few pics at different angles and inside one may be able to tell more. "clfe" wrote in message news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one > today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at > a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I > didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. > I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the > case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to > be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully > bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it > wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. > Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on > it - either. > > I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to have > that sitting on my shelf. > > CLF > > -- > **************************** > visit - www.clfurent.com > Article: 320926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: WTB: manual + probes... References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:24:00 -0400 How do you identify the 'later' version? I have one and some info, but don't know what version. Ken Daniele wrote: > ...for Rider RCA Chanalyst later version. > Probes would be welcome. > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > Article: 320927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: PING Uncle Peter NIgumba Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:52:41 -0500 Hey Pete that dude's still looking for a SX-88. I told him that you had several in your Nigerian store. You might want to give him a buzz? -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 320928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "monet" Subject: Drydex battery equivalents? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:54:44 +0200 Message-ID: Does anyone have ANY idea, as to what the Drydex H1041 battery voltage was? It was used to provide the grid biasing, in a battery-powered valve set >from the 1930's. Help would be appreciated. Thanks. Article: 320929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Got Stuff Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:05:37 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1123975829.363784.5470@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124115978.012033.171010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> people are so wacky.... doing things like advertising a garage sale on the internet. craziest thing i ever heard of.... randy > Why would anyone want to advertise a garage sale anywhere other than > locally, anyway? > > I just put a sign up, people stop by the dozens, stuff gone, we go out > for dinner with the proceeds. No fancy shmancy new fangled eentur-net > required. :-) > > Tox > Article: 320930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough caught in a lie Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:01:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1123935038.404560.238940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b271$42fde62c$4232bd0a$14155@COQUI.NET> <1124112703.024390.275320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:35:14 -0400, -ex- wrote: >Actually, "-x-" is not a posting name I've ever used. Hey, >8-track...plonk again. Bill and others: Charlie Nudo, aka "Sybil" and "Noodles," uses several different throwaways to evade posting limits and kill filers. Enter these manually into your kill filer, and you'll be Nudo-free: trippin28track@yahoo.com tripping28track@yahoo.com trippingtoo8track@yahoo.com powerchordg@yahoo.com coltblackpowder@hotmail.com winchester1886@hotmail.com dynobot@hotmail.com hsf18@epix.net thenudofamily@epix.net In fact, you're probably best blocking the entire epix block, as he's sure to come up with new account names to do what he does best...annoy people and spam and kill newsgroups. dB the REAL Bob Scarborough of Lancaster, CA, not the Charlie Nudo clone Article: 320931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: <7c5Me.30044$Tf5.28852@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:32:21 -1200 "Lbs" wrote in message news:4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >I would be very careful. Most of the units of this type are fakes or make >ups from old units mostly originating in India. At best it is likely to be >a mishmash of non matching bits. Vie seen some pretty bad examples which >won't even play properly for $1000's when in fact they are worthless. What >you seem to be describing is a table top type. If the wind up Handel comes >out from the top it is definitely fake. Incidentally in Australia you would >expect to find it branded HMV. Victor is US branding. > > If you can get a few pics at different angles and inside one may be able > to tell more. > > > "clfe" wrote in message > news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one >> today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning at >> a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I >> didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working condition. >> I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by "Victor" and the >> case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The cloth appeared to >> be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't appear too awfully >> bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for it. Last I seen, it >> wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. >> Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on >> it - either. >> >> I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to >> have that sitting on my shelf. >> >> CLF >> >> -- >> **************************** >> visit - www.clfurent.com >> > > The things I am sure of are - it was marked "Victor". The "Tone arm" swung to the right and to the rear of the case looking at it from the front. It sort of sat over a little well of sorts... an oblong or rectangular area set off from the main case - inside. The handle came out from the "right" side. I'm no antique collector or afficianado by any stretch, but it looked real enough to me. clf Article: 320932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: <4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: <4y5Me.5961$RZ2.3494@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:54:56 GMT "Lbs" wrote in message news:4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >I would be very careful. Most of the units of this type are fakes or make >ups from old units mostly originating in India. At best it is likely to be >a mishmash of non matching bits. Vie seen some pretty bad examples which >won't even play properly for $1000's when in fact they are worthless. What >you seem to be describing is a table top type. If the wind up Handel comes >out from the top it is definitely fake. Incidentally in Australia you would >expect to find it branded HMV. Victor is US branding. > > If you can get a few pics at different angles and inside one may be able > to tell more. > Original Victor portables did have the handle come out the top at a 45 degree angle, as do many fakes. Article: 320933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: <4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7c5Me.30044$Tf5.28852@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net> Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: <2z5Me.5962$RZ2.2327@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:55:58 GMT "clfe" wrote in message news:7c5Me.30044$Tf5.28852@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > "Lbs" wrote in message > news:4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >>I would be very careful. Most of the units of this type are fakes or make >>ups from old units mostly originating in India. At best it is likely to be >>a mishmash of non matching bits. Vie seen some pretty bad examples which >>won't even play properly for $1000's when in fact they are worthless. What >>you seem to be describing is a table top type. If the wind up Handel comes >>out from the top it is definitely fake. Incidentally in Australia you >>would expect to find it branded HMV. Victor is US branding. >> >> If you can get a few pics at different angles and inside one may be able >> to tell more. >> >> >> "clfe" wrote in message >> news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >>> What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen one >>> today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least spinning >>> at a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just guessing). I >>> didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual working >>> condition. I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was made by >>> "Victor" and the case was in what I thought - reasonable condition. The >>> cloth appeared to be wanting to separate in a couple places, but didn't >>> appear too awfully bad. Thought about buying it but have no real use for >>> it. Last I seen, it wasn't sold. Will look for it next week, maybe I'll >>> be in a buying mode. Of course, I was riding my motorcycle and didn't >>> want to haul anything on it - either. >>> >>> I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to >>> have that sitting on my shelf. >>> >>> CLF >>> >>> -- >>> **************************** >>> visit - www.clfurent.com >>> >> >> > > The things I am sure of are - it was marked "Victor". The "Tone arm" swung > to the right and to the rear of the case looking at it from the front. It > sort of sat over a little well of sorts... an oblong or rectangular area > set off from the main case - inside. The handle came out from the "right" > side. I'm no antique collector or afficianado by any stretch, but it > looked real enough to me. > > clf > At $100-$150, even if it is a modern reproduction, if it plays ok it is not a bad price. Make sure the unit you want plays. Article: 320934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: WTB: manual + probes... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:21:07 GMT Ken wrote: > How do you identify the 'later' version? I have one and some info, but > don't know what version. Ken >From what i've read in some websites the one marked RCA and having 4 6E5 instead of 6G5 is the later version... but i guess they work all in the same way. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 320935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: Drydex battery equivalents? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:35:32 -0500 Message-ID: <4300ee83$0$22204$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Took me a bit to find it in my batch of stuff and stuff and stuff, but I found it--it was a "Yellow Triangle Series" 4.5 volt unit. It's the only reference I have, and unfortunately it doesn't have dimensions. I'm going to guess one of its equivalents is a GEC BB40. Its dimensions are 2 9/16" x 13/16" x 3 3/16". Bill "monet" wrote in message news:fdeffa00058bb0a0c11dcc6b575fd5ca@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > Does anyone have ANY idea, as to what the Drydex H1041 battery voltage > was? > It was used to provide the grid biasing, in a battery-powered valve set > from the 1930's. > > Help would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > Article: 320936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ungar Model 6763 Soldering Gun From: Ross Johnson References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:37:48 GMT If it had been that simple I would not have posted to this news group. Google is good but it's not the best resource for finding small items. When Weller bought out Ungar they seemed to have thrown-out everything related to Ungar products. So I ask again if any one in this group might have an iron-clad tip for the soldering gun that they would be willing to sell me? Ross "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in news:WBQLe.5254$Wi6.4103@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net: > Google what you are looking for, there might be a possibility that > something comes up. > > > > Omer > > > > > "Ross Johnson" wrote in message > news:Xns96B26293B72Ejohnsonralwavecablec@69.28.186.121... >> Hello, >> >> I hope I'm not breaking any rules but I need help finding a new tip >> to fit my Ungar Model 6763 Soldering gun. It has the #6751 220 watt, >> 120 volt cartridge and years back I lost all the tips to it. If >> anyone has a spare iron-clad tip they would sell me I would really >> appreciate it. I only need >> one but two would really be nice. Please email me, (remove the >> ".nospam" from the address). Thank you for your help. >> >> Best Regards, >> Ross > > Article: 320937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43010635.4040205@nycap.rr.com> From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's References: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:13:29 GMT Jim, I have been thinking of getting that version and getting rid of the books. From the sample scans on their ad they look great. Would you concur? jim menning wrote: > "Benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:ddles9$139o$1@news3.infoave.net... > >> I'm looking for a decent scan of three Rider's pages for a >>Philco 610. They're in Volume Six, pages 6-19, 6-20 and 6-21. The >>old BPS copies of Rider's that I have are all blurred on those >>pages. Has anyone tried those new scans that are available on eBay >>from that guy in Idaho ?? If they're any good, I think it's about >>time to invest in a set. >> Ben >> > > > I've bought many sets of Riders on CD and DVD, and all have been the > BPS or clones thereof, until I got the radio-data set that came out at > the end of September last year. Theirs is superior, and also very > reasonable. Currently they sell it on eBay about $20 under what I > paid for mine. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6552963571 > > jim menning > > Article: 320938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Got Stuff References: <1123975829.363784.5470@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124115978.012033.171010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124141490.629054.250180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9m8Me.129009$3j2.4352960@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:07:01 GMT > Not only that - you won't believe this one - this is only for the brave > so stop reading if you can't take a shock - they have a thing with a > RADIO, a CLOCK and a COFFEE MAKER in the same appliance! What the he!! > kind of a dumb-bell would.... > Hey that's nuttin, I got a can opener with a radio built in. Ron Article: 320939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Got Stuff From: Larry References: <1123975829.363784.5470@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124115978.012033.171010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:32:13 -0400 "xrongor" wrote in news:ddqlhg$3r8j$1@news3.infoave.net: > people are so wacky.... doing things like advertising a garage sale > on the internet. craziest thing i ever heard of.... > One guy started a garage sale on the internet. He called it Ebay for lack of a better name. You'd kiss his ass if he wanted you.....(c; -- Larry Article: 320940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <43010635.4040205@nycap.rr.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:03:06 GMT "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:43010635.4040205@nycap.rr.com... > > Jim, I have been thinking of getting that version and getting rid of > the books. From the sample scans on their ad they look great. Would > you concur? > If you have the set of Rider books, keep them for now. There are reasons why the Radio Data discs have not replaced my full set of Rider books. I have been recommending these products to many people in the past, but I have some reservations. Lou, the image quality from the Radio Data discs is far superior to the other sets on the market. The scans print out better than some of the pages in my original Riders books. But I have noticed a serious limitation in the functionality of the Radio Data products, which has caused me to not use them in favor of some of the other versions. And that limitation has indeed kept me using my hard copy books, rather than the discs. I've meant to contact them about the problem I've had with their discs (Riders, Philco, Zenith, etc.), but have been procrastinating. Now that I am reminded again, I will follow through and contact them. Until I give them a fair chance to address the issue, I don't want to identify the issue publicly. Let me get in touch with them and see what they say, and I'll get back to the group on this topic. jim menning Article: 320941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <7c5Me.30044$Tf5.28852@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net> <2z5Me.5962$RZ2.2327@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Wind up Phono Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:12:34 -1200 "george conklin" wrote in message news:2z5Me.5962$RZ2.2327@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > "clfe" wrote in message > news:7c5Me.30044$Tf5.28852@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> "Lbs" wrote in message >> news:4300b6e4$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >>>I would be very careful. Most of the units of this type are fakes or make >>>ups from old units mostly originating in India. At best it is likely to >>>be a mishmash of non matching bits. Vie seen some pretty bad examples >>>which won't even play properly for $1000's when in fact they are >>>worthless. What you seem to be describing is a table top type. If the >>>wind up Handel comes out from the top it is definitely fake. Incidentally >>>in Australia you would expect to find it branded HMV. Victor is US >>>branding. >>> >>> If you can get a few pics at different angles and inside one may be able >>> to tell more. >>> >>> >>> "clfe" wrote in message >>> news:enNLe.29753$Tf5.15328@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >>>> What would be the ball park guess value of a wind - up Phono? I seen >>>> one today at a Flea Market, it seemed to work, as it was at least >>>> spinning at a pretty good clip about 45 or 78 rpm it appeared (just >>>> guessing). I didn't get to speak to the owner about price or actual >>>> working condition. I didn't look to see if any needle in it. It was >>>> made by "Victor" and the case was in what I thought - reasonable >>>> condition. The cloth appeared to be wanting to separate in a couple >>>> places, but didn't appear too awfully bad. Thought about buying it but >>>> have no real use for it. Last I seen, it wasn't sold. Will look for it >>>> next week, maybe I'll be in a buying mode. Of course, I was riding my >>>> motorcycle and didn't want to haul anything on it - either. >>>> >>>> I am in to antiques as much as some of you are, but it may be neat to >>>> have that sitting on my shelf. >>>> >>>> CLF >>>> >>>> -- >>>> **************************** >>>> visit - www.clfurent.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> The things I am sure of are - it was marked "Victor". The "Tone arm" >> swung to the right and to the rear of the case looking at it from the >> front. It sort of sat over a little well of sorts... an oblong or >> rectangular area set off from the main case - inside. The handle came out >> from the "right" side. I'm no antique collector or afficianado by any >> stretch, but it looked real enough to me. >> >> clf >> > > At $100-$150, even if it is a modern reproduction, if it plays ok it is > not a bad price. Make sure the unit you want plays. > will do! thanks......... clf Article: 320942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough caught in a lie References: <1123935038.404560.238940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b271$42fde62c$4232bd0a$14155@COQUI.NET> <1124112703.024390.275320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:19:35 +0200 DeserTBoB wrote: > In fact, you're probably best blocking the entire epix block, as he's > sure to come up with new account names to do what he does best...annoy > people and spam and kill newsgroups. So far, I have seen more postings from you then from him... I suggest everyone killfile you as well. If you are not him by accident. --- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 320943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Tape recordings on PBS (was Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) writes: >On PBS, there is a summer show called "History Detectives" which >is sort of like Antique Roadshow, but they track down the history >of historical items (rather than antiques). That's a good show! One of the things I found interesting is the "probable cause" approach to authentication. In our world, finding the date of an object is often as simple as looking up the model number. We often take it for granted, but we're blessed with the satisfaction of being able to routinely nail down the exact year, and sometimes the month. Seems "real" antiques are not that straightforward. "History Detectives" is filled with supposition. I guess the engineer in me would never be happy with not being able to nail things down. :) >This week, though I'm not sure if all the PBS stations are sync'd >up, there will be a segment about what may be (according to the >blurb) the first commercially produced automobile tape player. But >then it goes on to suggest they will be talking about how the Allies >got the tape recording process at the end of the war. Thanks for reminding me. I've got to catch it this week if I have the time. When I saw the show the other week (Which included a trip to a expert on Civil War era balloons at my alma mater!) there was a bumper for the tape player segment. Oughta be interesting. >And the experts on "History Detectives" are supposed to be historians, >and in fact they often show bits of them visiting libraries and tracking >down old documents in their weekly quests. At the beginning of the show they introduce the "stars", including their titles. Some are academic historians, others are auctioneers/ appraisers, sociologists, etc. I'd guess (hope) they try and match the expertise with the scenario at hand. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> In <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: >I just finished up this set and would like some critical opinion. You >know, "looks like a robot", "old radios are supposed to be dull brown", >"I love it", "Looks like crap", whatever. I too have mixed feelings >about how much I like it. "I love that it looks like crap, just like a robot, and not an old radio that's supposed to be dull brown." The only thing it needs is a Coca-Cola sticker. Just kidding. I really like it. It's sharp; reminds me of something they might've had at the Bauhaus. I agree with the other guys about maybe just a =touch= more chrome. This is probably silly, but maybe just chrome screws for the escutcheon? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ebony cabinets - public opinion poll Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <82ab7$42fe6b6c$4232bd3f$12795@COQUI.NET> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >Make that "chrome"... Dunno, Bruce, I think you had it right the first time. "Chorme" -- that's French chrome. :) Fitting for this beauty. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124146849.922323.109160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: replace 400v cap with a 350v? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 23:57:30 GMT I read the other two replies and I have to agree. It's not good practice to go down anyway on max specs, but electrolytics in particular have a narrower margin by design. In the case of resistors, when you build a circuit you typically use a watt rating at least twice as much as the maximum amount of power you ever anticipate getting. With capacitors (non-electrolytic) it is common practice to use 200 watt rating even though you might only anticipate a few volts. In the 200 volt B+ circuit you use 400 or even 630 rating. However you don't do this with an electrolytic. These capacitors have a way of "forming" around the voltage used. If you leave an old radio on the shelf for many years, the electrolyte will get used to the zero voltage, and can go bad when you reapply power -- this is why it is recommended to replace old electrolytics. If you use a low voltage on a higher rated electrolytic, it will form in the same manner -- not as much, but it can still go bad. For maximum reliability, you should use an electrolytic that's higher than the actual voltage, of course, but not that much higher. With this in mind, I'd be leery of replacing with a lower-rated electrolytic, as the voltage could come close to, or even exceed, its maximum rating. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1124146849.922323.109160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > I'm working on an old TV set and the electrolytics were rated at 400v > but the electronics store only had 350v ones in stock. > > I know it's normally a bad idea to use a cap with a lower voltage > rating than the original, but in this case, would 50v make a major > difference? I don't want to damage or destroy anything, like I usually > do.... > > > > 73, > > Tim > Article: 320947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1124146849.922323.109160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1124148814.070896.218670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1124150927.110618.193000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: replace 400v cap with a 350v? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:16:15 GMT wrote in message news:1124150927.110618.193000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I'm unable to do voltage measurements until I replace the > electrolytics > because they've leaked and are dried out. > > I'm also working without a schematic so I don't know what the > correct > voltages are. > > The TV set is an RCA 17-S-451. If anyone has a scan of the schematic > I'd highly appreciate it. > > You don't want a scan, you need the whole Photofact (24 pages)! I have an extra copy of this one. Just email me your mailing address, and I'll send it out to you, no charge. jim menning jmenning@new.rr.com Article: 320948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: A new way to power your old radios Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:49:43 GMT Urine-powered battery developed (Update) Physicists in Singapore have succeeded in creating the first paper battery that generates electricity from urine. This new battery will be the perfect power source for cheap, disposable healthcare test-kits for diseases such as diabetes. This research is published today in the Institute of Physics’ Journal of Micromechanics and Microengineering. Scientists in research groups around the world are trying to design ever smaller “biochips” that can test for a variety of diseases at once, give instant results, and, crucially, can be mass produced cheaply. But until now, no one has been able to solve the problem of finding a power source as small and as cheap to fabricate as the detection technology itself. Led by Dr Ki Bang Lee, a research team at Singapore’s Institute of Bioengineering and Nanotechnology (IBN) have developed a paper battery that is small, cheap to fabricate, and which ingeniously uses the fluid being tested (urine) as the power source for the device doing the testing. The chemical composition of urine is widely used as a way of testing for tell-tale signs of various diseases and also as an indicator of a person’s general state of health. The concentration of glucose in urine is a useful diagnostic tool for diabetics. The lead researcher, Dr Lee, envisions a world where people will easily be able to monitor their health at home using disposable test-kits that don’t need lithium batteries or external power sources. Dr. Lee said: “We are striving to develop cheap, disposable credit card-sized biochips for disease detection. Our battery can be easily integrated into such devices, supplying electricity upon contact with biofluids such as urine.” The battery unit is made from a layer of paper that is steeped in copper chloride (CuCl) and sandwiched between strips of magnesium and copper. This “sandwich” is then held in place by being laminated, which involves passing the battery unit between a pair of transparent plastic films through a heating roller at 120ºC. The final product has dimensions of 60 mm x 30 mm, and a thickness of just 1 mm (a little bit smaller than a credit card). Writing in the Journal of Micromechanics and Microengineering, Lee describes how the battery was created and quantifies its performance. Using 0.2 ml of urine, they generated a voltage of around 1.5 V with a corresponding maximum power of 1.5 mW. They also found that the battery performances (such as voltage, power or duration) may be designed or adjusted by changing the geometry or materials used. “Our urine-activated battery would be integrated into biochip systems for healthcare diagnostic applications,” says Lee. He envisions a world where people will easily be able to monitor their health at home, seeking medical attention only when necessary. “These fully-integrated biochip systems have a huge market potential,” adds Lee. This news is brought to you by PhysOrg.com Article: 320949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <7%LHe.7415$0C.5376@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <5f41g1lrab85tf7vtkqha9ltjret1ipiab@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:50:57 GMT It was nice, but on the smallish side. Seems like every swap meet is different anyway -- this one had little in the way of spare parts, but lots of table radios. Coming from out of town, I'd like to get your take on this -- if we stay true to form, the next swap meet should be on December 3, the same day as a hamfest in Palmetto. I took a survey of everyone there, and most suggested that we have it on a different day. One small group said they all come from Brandon, and like going to both -- and would not go to the hamfest if it were not on the same day (in other words changing the date would hurt them, not us). Dave still insists on having it the same day. Regardless of the date planned, I personally would like to kick in some afterburners. In the past I've been far too busy to get involved, but now things are beginning to clear -- and I feel I can start putting some effort into this. When you have people camping out at Kutztown and other places, and considering the number of potential hobbyists in Florida, I honestly feel we are ripe for a really good following if we can get the ball rolling. So why not? The biggest thing we need is more publicity. I'm open for comments. Chip? John? Michael? Other clubs? "Steve B." wrote in message news:5f41g1lrab85tf7vtkqha9ltjret1ipiab@4ax.com... > On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 17:37:28 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > >>If you came a couple of year ago, you probably went to the Lions club on >>Tuttle Avenue. >> >>The Knights of Columbus is much easier to get to. Get off I-75 Exit 210, >>Fruitville Road. Head west about a mile, past the big shopping centers. >>Look to your left -- you'll see an Advance Auto Parts, BP/Amoco, and KFC. >>Get in your left lane and slow down -- it's just past these on the left. > > So how was the Sarasota show? I wanted to come down for it but what > with putting all my extra money in to unleaded these days figured I > had better stay home... > > Steve B. Article: 320950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:55:43 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:HKaMe.122284$Kp2.12141348@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Urine-powered battery developed (Update) Totally new meaning to the phrase "that station ain't worth a piss"... Article: 320951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios From: "Benjamaniac" Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:09:56 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:ddrdft$23g$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message > news:HKaMe.122284$Kp2.12141348@twister.southeast.rr.com... >> Urine-powered battery developed (Update) > > > Totally new meaning to the phrase "that station ain't worth a piss"... > Brenda Ann...does that mean that coming next is the battery that means..."That station ain't worth a S@#T" ??? Article: 320952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: DeserTBob aka Bob Scarborough caught in a lie Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1123935038.404560.238940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b271$42fde62c$4232bd0a$14155@COQUI.NET> <1124112703.024390.275320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl writes: >DeserTBoB wrote: >> In fact, you're probably best blocking the entire epix block, as he's >> sure to come up with new account names to do what he does best...annoy >> people and spam and kill newsgroups. >So far, I have seen more postings from you then from him... I suggest >everyone killfile you as well. If you are not him by accident. Ever see that episode of the original Star Trek series where a character, Lazarus Long (?) is embroiled in an eternal struggle with his arch enemy, a mirror image of himself? The show ends with the two locked in a physical arm-to-arm struggle until the end of time. That's what these Internet feuds remind me of. Scary. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Klaatu Meter Revisited (Weston 525) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1123849058.140252.59590@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123937058.804946.296100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1123937058.804946.296100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "electron@grapevine.net" writes: >Ah JEEZ! Now I gotta have TWO of 'em! >;-) Heh-heh-heh-heh. Funny how easy it is to pick up a second career, eh? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Message-ID: <59bMe.916$sw6.456@fed1read05> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:17:52 -0400 Might be the ultimate solution for mouses living in radios... Free power. Pete Article: 320955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:32:23 -0400 Another great reason to drink beer! On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:49:43 GMT, Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Urine-powered battery developed (Update) > Article: 320956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Supercharge battery was:Re: A new way to power your old radios From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:54:52 -0400 Ron in Radio Heaven wrote in news:HKaMe.122284$Kp2.12141348@twister.southeast.rr.com: > Urine-powered battery developed (Update) > On a happier note, Toshiba has developed a Lithium-ion battery that charges to 80% capacity from dead in SIXTY SECONDS and 100% capacity in THREE MINUTES!......without exploding in schrapnel and flames.... Also, after 1000 cycles, it only loses 1% of its new capacity! Can you say "Electric Vehicle"? You can fill that electric car FASTER than the gas car! -- Larry Article: 320957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Supercharge battery was:Re: A new way to power your old radios From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:05:38 -0400 Larry wrote in news:Xns96B3DBD4EEBAEnoone@63.223.7.253: > On a happier note Oops...here's a URL........ http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2005_03/pr2901.htm -- Larry Article: 320958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Glenn Jensen" Subject: Canadian General Electric - M125 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:50:43 -0600 Message-ID: <11g2j3ef08bak34@corp.supernews.com> I recently purchased the above mentioned antique tube radio and was wondering if anyone could supply information on the radio, ie. Schematics, date of manufacture...etc.. As well, could anyone recommed books that would assist an amatuer radio restorer in making this radio operational? Or should a guy just take it to a radio shop and get them to get it operational? Any help would greatly be appreciated. Glenn Article: 320959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: Subject: Re: Internet bugs Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <43015011_1@news1.prserv.net> Gary: As Bruce said, its an ISP thing. Binaries take up a lot of memory, and many ISPs retain them for a day or less, and some porn screening programs eliminate them before they are posted. One of the more erudite on here needs to repost the list of available servers which hold good binaries, as I often have the same problem with attglobal. -- Crazy George The attglobal.net address is a SPAM trap. Please change to munsch at att dot biz properly formatted. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:RhGLe.5875$Je.724@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > I'm posting this message on both the RAR&P and the binaries. > > I'm having a problem reading messages on the binaries, and I'm wondering if > others are having the same trouble. Yesterday I went to read some new > messages, and a couple of them came up with "message is no longer on the > server." This morning, ALL of the unread messages, even those posted just a > few hours ago, gave me the same error message. I don't have this problem > with the RAR&P, nor with any other newsgroup I've frequented. I'm using > Outlook. Is this some sort of Outlook thing, or are these messages really > gone? > > Any comments? > > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 320960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Supercharge battery was:Re: A new way to power your old radios Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:11:09 -0700 Message-ID: <22945-43014B3D-568@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Larry: >Toshiba has developed a Lithium-ion >battery that charges to 80% capacity >from dead in SIXTY SECONDS and >100% capacity in THREE >MINUTES!......without exploding in >schrapnel and flames.... > >Can you say "Electric Vehicle"? You can >fill that electric car FASTER than >the gas car! ..Which begs the question, what manner of charger is capable of supplying that much current? It would have to be in the hundreds of amps. Some kind of giant capacitor bank? Bill(oc) Article: 320961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: HPGrn Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 02:37:33 GMT On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:32:23 -0400, Beerbarrel wrote: >Another great reason to drink beer! > > > > >On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:49:43 GMT, Ron in Radio Heaven > wrote: > >> Urine-powered battery developed (Update) >> Hmmm, imagine if the application can be used in hybrid cars...rest stops might have a whole new meaning!!! Article: 320962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: FS - Hallicrafters 506 Tube Television References: <1124159681.217639.119000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:55:42 -0500 vbarr@gate.net wrote: > Florida Which end? Pensacola is just down the highway a bit from me - while Miami is too far for a "fetch" trip. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 320963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <86h2g1t2kri2lck7vda2lqh2pc3evgs4e6@4ax.com> References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:07:27 -0400 Alan Douglas wrote: Actually, that was me, not Alan who wrote this.... >>Blaupunkts changed year by year and there were different models. To >>get the right schematic you need to give the model name AND the first >>letter of the serial number, which advanced one letter each year. > > Well there's certainly more to this than meets the eye. >The serial is E 793375. I'm afraid that's much earlier than any of the schematics I have. What's the model name? > Given the time, I can take his standard bezel and mill it out to >fit the radio. It won't leave a lot of metal on the top and bottom >edges, but my friend says these bezels are easy to get, if this one >breaks. Trying to mill out a Sapphire bezel to fit is really the wrong way to go about this. It's more like saying, "My buddy has a Philco radio with no cabinet, but he's got this nice Zenith cabinet that I can just drill some new holes in and it will pretty much work." You get the picture. He should look for the proper Blaupunkt bezel. Once you see how that fits, you'll realize that the Sapphire one really doesn't work at all. [I wonder if I still have that Blaupunkt Beetle bezel....] > We still need a schematic though, if only to figure out where the >speaker connects. There's a 6-pin (I recall) plug on a shielded cable >coming out of the set, and a matching socket on the side, and some of >the wires are broken off the plug. That sounds like you have a 2-unit model, which has the tuner in one chassis and the power amp in a separate chassis. The six pin plug just connects those 2 parts together. There may be a pair of arms connecting the 2 parts together mechanically, but those are just for cars where there was room to mount them that way. Otherwise, the power amp unit could be mounted some distance away. IIRC, the cord with the 6 pin plug is about 1.5-2 feet long. The speaker connection is different. Look for 3 jacks mounted in a brown phenolic plate. This connector was always at the end of a 6" cable on the Blaupunkts I've worked on. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 320964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:17:11 GMT Sure...............I wind 2 turns of Litz wire around the loopstick and couple an RF generator to this input. Bypassing the differential RF amplifier and going directly into the low-pass filter ahead of the doubly-balanced diode ring mixer yields an MDS of 90nV. This is using a Boonton Model 103D RF Generator. The differential RF stage consists of a pair of 2N5486 JFETS followed by a 2N3904 emitter follower. This couples into a low-pass filter.....next stage is a Mini-Circuits TFM-3 which has an SSB conversion loss of 4.75dB. A diplexer follows the mixer which matches the impedance to a 10.7MHz crystal filter. Another matching network follows and couples into a Philips TDA1572 AM receiver subsystem. I am using a Murata CFS-455H 13-element ladder filter with a 6kHz bandwidth. I will be glad to forward a schematic of the design if you wish. Feel free to e-mail me directly. Pete "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:Qp7Le.8987$rp.771@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Pete KE9OA wrote: > >> This receiver can detect a signal down to 40nV when in a shield room. > > 40nV????? I'm impressed. Care to share how you determined that? > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 320965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:18:12 GMT Oh, the one with the IBOC transmissions? I forgot all about that one! Pete "John Stone" wrote in message news:BF234EC8.217C2%jmsent2@comcast.net... > On 8/12/05 3:01 PM, in article > 5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net, "Pete KE9OA" > wrote: > >> Believe it or not, there are still a few oldies stations >> around..........the >> ones that I can receive are CFCO 630, WGTO 910(Michigan), and some >> station >> in Kenosha Wisconsin on 1050. There are others around, but these are the >> daytime stations in this area. > > If you're in the Chicago area, how could you leave out WRLL 1690? > Article: 320966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: <1BfMe.103191$5N3.87360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:20:45 GMT If any of you are in the Wisconsin area, I will be bring one of these receivers to the Madison DXer's gathering this coming Saturday. Gerry Dexter and about 35 others will be there, so it should be a fun time. I was going to bring the prototype that I just finished this evening, but my wife liked it so much that I gave it to her! Pete "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrndfsk6q.edh.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article , John Stone wrote: > >> If you're in the Chicago area, how could you leave out WRLL 1690? > > Easy. Most radios don't go down that far, unless they're fairly old and > have a "Police Band" (between 16 and 17) or fairly new (when that section > of the band was authorised for broadcasting. > > Some new (cheap-o) radios have the numbers on the dial, you might not hear > anything there though, even if you have stations in the area. > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. Article: 320967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:14:33 -0600 Message-ID: References: >>> Urine-powered battery developed (Update) >>> > Hmmm, imagine if the application can be used in hybrid cars...rest > stops might have a whole new meaning!!! or if you ran out, you would call AAA and actually ask to have someone come piss in your car randy Article: 320968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: replace 400v cap with a 350v? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:17:31 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124146849.922323.109160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> just as a side question, if all you had available was 350 volters, couldnt you run them in series? sure the values of the cap(s) would have to change to compensate for them being in series to come up with the same value as the single cap had before, but voltage wise wouldnt you be ok? randy wrote in message news:1124146849.922323.109160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > I'm working on an old TV set and the electrolytics were rated at 400v > but the electronics store only had 350v ones in stock. > > I know it's normally a bad idea to use a cap with a lower voltage > rating than the original, but in this case, would 50v make a major > difference? I don't want to damage or destroy anything, like I usually > do.... > > > > 73, > > Tim > Article: 320969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43019321.F8027296@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios References: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:17:55 GMT xrongor wrote: > > >>> Urine-powered battery developed (Update) > >>> > > Hmmm, imagine if the application can be used in hybrid cars...rest > > stops might have a whole new meaning!!! > > or if you ran out, you would call AAA and actually ask to have someone come > piss in your car > > randy Or wait till the next presidential election, where you would have a lifetime supply from the heated arguments about the candidates. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 320970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: basecoat clearcoat Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:07:14 GMT I am painting a crosley D-25. the greeny blue metallic color. I had auto paint mixed (ppg acrylic enamal I think) from the closest paint chip I could find. it took a few tries to get the metallic paint on smooth and even, This stuff is tricky to work with. the metallic component drops out of suspension very quickly when you stop stirring it. I finally got the metallic finish smooth and even, but had not enough color, it was almost silver. I fixed that by pouring off just the pigment and did a coat of that. it looks pretty good now. I didn't add a hardener to the paint, that's ok .. in my experience it hardens ok without the hardener, just takes longer to thouroughly cure. I think the hardener helps the top surface flow to a gloss. I thought I would finish up with a coat of clearcoat. The bodyshops seem to work a lot with basecoat clearcoat. it should help protect it >from scratching. I figured the clearcoat would be just the same as the paint, only without the pigment, but at the bodyshop supply store , they said not so, it is a different product and they would only sell gallons of the clearcoat. I went to a couple of bodyshops and found one that would sell me a pint of the clearcoat and a bit of hardener. my question. will the basecoat clearcoat work over acrylic enamal or is there a different type of paint that needs to be used underneath ? anyone tried using these types of clearcoats? it is a two part product. 1:3 mix. Phil Article: 320971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: replace 400v cap with a 350v? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:19:41 GMT Message-ID: <4301aef6.1758969@news.demon.co.uk> References: <1124146849.922323.109160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> On 15 Aug 2005 16:00:50 -0700, tim87529@gmail.com wrote: >I'm working on an old TV set and the electrolytics were rated at 400v >but the electronics store only had 350v ones in stock. > >I know it's normally a bad idea to use a cap with a lower voltage >rating than the original, but in this case, would 50v make a major >difference? I don't want to damage or destroy anything, like I usually >do.... All the warnings you've been given are true, but the upside is that modern electrolytics are designed to fail reasonably gracefully rather than literally exploding. You will probably be OK if you use the 350V caps for a short time just to measure the voltage across them. You should be aware that the switchon voltage may be considerably higher than the normal operational voltage, especially if a metal or silicon rectifier is used. Best regards, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 320972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: Re: Control lubricant Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:07:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4301D705.5050205@iet.hist.no> References: <42f6bbb1$0$16750$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <_KudnXojYZZ0CWTfRVn-3Q@comcast.com> <42fa50fb@nntp.onyx.net> Martin Crossley wrote: > Phil B wrote: > >>Bill, >> >>I know, I know. Caig has been screwing around in the past year or so. >>My can of Deoxit is a is 4 or 5 years old. A brief squirt per use >>makes it last a long time. It IS good stuff. >> >>Now that Deoxit has changed formula and chosen to alienate users with >>their legalize postings, I would seriously like to know of an >>equivalent or better product. >> >>Phil B >> >> > > Servisol Super 10 switch cleaning lubricant has been > entirely satisfactory over the 20-odd years I've been using it. > It is made in the UK, and the earliest advert I have seen is from 1947. > MSDS can be found here:- > http://servisol.co.uk/wwwcrc/msds/servisol%20super%2010.pdf > HTH, > Martin. Btw., have any of you tried the British ELECTROLUBE products? I have had very good, lasting results with both EML and SGB sprays for pots as well as contacts. Stein-Olav Lund Trondheim, Norway Article: 320973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4301DD22.8010703@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:34:03 GMT Pete KE9OA wrote: > I will be glad to forward a schematic of the design if > you wish. Feel free to e-mail me directly. > > Pete Yes, I'd like to see this. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: replace 400v cap with a 350v? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:51:42 -0700 Message-ID: <13614-4301E15E-601@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: >..if all you had available was 350 volters, >couldnt you run them in series? The biggest problem with series-connecting two caps is that you halve the value. That is, say you series-connect two 40uf electrolytics, you get 20uf. In practice, say you want 40uf, you'd have to series two 80s, which would become physically humongous and impractical. Bill(oc) Article: 320975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: basecoat clearcoat Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:25:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4301e931$0$32194$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> >From what I remember when I worked as an automotive paint jobber: Basecoat/clearcoat is acrylic urethane, a different animal from acrylic enamel. It's a lot tougher than the enamel. Also more dangerous to spray. It has a nasty ingredient called isocyanates--if you get it in your lungs, it stays. Unless they've changed processes, I don't believe there is a clearcoat acrylic enamel. And you can't shoot acrylic urethane over acrylic enamel. It'll wrinkle like crazy. Bill "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:ml73g1pe1704tkpelu8mnm0836re6097fg@4ax.com... > > I am painting a crosley D-25. the greeny blue metallic color. > I had auto paint mixed (ppg acrylic enamal I think) from the closest > paint chip I could find. > > it took a few tries to get the metallic paint on smooth and even, This > stuff is tricky to work with. the metallic component drops out of > suspension very quickly when you stop stirring it. > > I finally got the metallic finish smooth and even, but had not enough > color, it was almost silver. I fixed that by pouring off just the > pigment and did a coat of that. it looks pretty good now. > > I didn't add a hardener to the paint, that's ok .. in my experience > it hardens ok without the hardener, just takes longer to thouroughly > cure. I think the hardener helps the top surface flow to a gloss. > > I thought I would finish up with a coat of clearcoat. The bodyshops > seem to work a lot with basecoat clearcoat. it should help protect it > from scratching. > > I figured the clearcoat would be just the same as the paint, only > without the pigment, but at the bodyshop supply store , they said > not so, it is a different product and they would only sell gallons of > the clearcoat. I went to a couple of bodyshops and found one that > would sell me a pint of the clearcoat and a bit of hardener. > > my question. > will the basecoat clearcoat work over acrylic enamal or is there a > different type of paint that needs to be used underneath ? > anyone tried using these types of clearcoats? it is a two part > product. 1:3 mix. > > Phil > > > > > Article: 320976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:41:23 -0500 Pete KE9OA wrote: > yields an MDS OK. MDS. I don't particularly care for MDS, but that is what you said in your original post when you stated "can detect". Most of us - when dealing with high sensitivity receivers - prefer a more practical measure ((s+n)/n) to describe "detection" (i.e. being able to recover a signal with a practical margin) and that's what I thought of when I read "can detect". I've noticed "MDS" more and more lately - reminds me of the "music power" advertising fluff the audio industry went through... As a matter of illustration - a recent "review" of a Sony ICF-SW100S gave an MDS of .04uv @14mhz - while the standard(10db (s+n)/n) was .78uv (again 14mhz, 1Khz 30% mod.)... That's something like (off the top of my head) 24dbm. When listening to an AM station - guess which number really means something... As I've noted before - there are R-390As "out there" running with (s+n)/n of .08uv... and Chuck Ripple has some "hand groomed" units that have gotten into the .05uv region... (thats 10db audio rise on .05uv signal input; but that was not full coverage .5 - 30mhz. just one band or such (full disclosure is only fair here!)). As noted by the comparison above - I have no idea what those radio's "MDS" number would be - I wonder further how you "discern" from the noise floor at those levels... (obvious answer for most of us: (s+n)/n). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 320977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1BfMe.103191$5N3.87360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:04:29 GMT "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message news:1BfMe.103191$5N3.87360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > If any of you are in the Wisconsin area, I will be bring one of > these receivers to the Madison DXer's gathering this coming > Saturday. Gerry Dexter and about 35 others will be there, so it > should be a fun time. > I was going to bring the prototype that I just finished this > evening, but my wife liked it so much that I gave it to her! > > Pete > Pete, can you give more information about this gathering? Do they have a website with details? jim menning (Appleton, WI) Article: 320978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11g2j3ef08bak34@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Canadian General Electric - M125 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:40:30 GMT "Glenn Jensen" wrote in message news:11g2j3ef08bak34@corp.supernews.com... > > > As well, could anyone recommed books that would assist an amatuer > radio restorer in making this radio operational? Or should a guy > just take it to a radio shop and get them to get it operational? > > Any help would greatly be appreciated. > > Glenn > Try this Glenn: http://www.antiqueradio.com/Aug03_Menning_Newbies.html jim menning Article: 320979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:41:10 GMT Sorry about that.................10dB S+N/N of .07uV (-130dBm?) That should be more helpful! MDS is a relatively meaningful measurement, especially if you are working in CW mode, but I agree...........this mode isn't very useful when dealing with AM signals. It is useful, however, when characterizing the receiver for its noise floor, which can be affected by such things as filter feedaround and phase noise from the LO chain. Once again, this figure is quite a bit of overkill when tuning on a band that has an ambient noise level of -90dBm in most locations, but I always wanted such a receiver; this is the reason that I designed it in the first place. There are also quite a few MW band DXers that would desire this type of unit. Pete "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:J0mMe.17852$XL3.4459@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > Pete KE9OA wrote: > >> yields an MDS > > OK. MDS. I don't particularly care for MDS, but that is what you said in > your original post when you stated "can detect". Most of us - when dealing > with high sensitivity receivers - prefer a more practical measure > ((s+n)/n) to describe "detection" (i.e. being able to recover a signal > with a practical margin) and that's what I thought of when I read "can > detect". > > I've noticed "MDS" more and more lately - reminds me of the "music power" > advertising fluff the audio industry went through... > > As a matter of illustration - a recent "review" of a Sony ICF-SW100S gave > an MDS of .04uv @14mhz - while the standard(10db (s+n)/n) was .78uv (again > 14mhz, 1Khz 30% mod.)... That's something like (off the top of my head) > 24dbm. > > When listening to an AM station - guess which number really means > something... > > As I've noted before - there are R-390As "out there" running with (s+n)/n > of .08uv... and Chuck Ripple has some "hand groomed" units that have > gotten into the .05uv region... (thats 10db audio rise on .05uv signal > input; but that was not full coverage .5 - 30mhz. just one band or such > (full disclosure is only fair here!)). > > As noted by the comparison above - I have no idea what those radio's "MDS" > number would be - I wonder further how you "discern" from the noise floor > at those levels... (obvious answer for most of us: (s+n)/n). > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 320980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1BfMe.103191$5N3.87360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: <3LoMe.618212$cg1.524192@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:45:51 GMT Hey Jim, If you could e-mail me directly at: p dot gianako at worldnet dot att dot net that would be great! I can then forward Bill Dvorak's e-mail contents to you. He is the facilitator of this event. Basically, it will be held at a place called Burrought Park, in Madison Wisconsin. It starts at around 11 AM. Neil Kazaros will be setting up some sort of Log Periodic antenna for the low frequency bands, and there will be at least one other demonstration besides Neil and myself. There should be DXers from all over the country. once again, my e-mail is: p.gianako@worldnet.att.net Pete "jim menning" wrote in message news:NnmMe.8530$32.7475@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message > news:1BfMe.103191$5N3.87360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> If any of you are in the Wisconsin area, I will be bring one of these >> receivers to the Madison DXer's gathering this coming Saturday. Gerry >> Dexter and about 35 others will be there, so it should be a fun time. >> I was going to bring the prototype that I just finished this evening, but >> my wife liked it so much that I gave it to her! >> >> Pete >> > > Pete, can you give more information about this gathering? Do they have a > website with details? > > jim menning > (Appleton, WI) > Article: 320981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <4301DD22.8010703@socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:48:37 GMT Hi Jeff, I have e-mailed copies of the MW receiver design and of my AM Sync detector design. The sync detector is interesting in that it is relatively simple, due to the fact that it uses an Analog Devices AD607 radio chip to to most of the functions. Mike Murphy of Analog Devices is the author of the AD607 application note that I used for this design. Pete "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:4301DD22.8010703@socal.rr.com... > Pete KE9OA wrote: >> I will be glad to forward a schematic of the design if >> you wish. Feel free to e-mail me directly. >> >> Pete > > Yes, I'd like to see this. > > Jeff > > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 320982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1BfMe.103191$5N3.87360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:52:37 GMT Hi Jim, Here is the information on the gathering...........they don't have a website, though. I hope this helps! Pete Hi, Pete! Hard to believe, but the 12th Annual Madison-Milwaukee DX Get-together is only five days away! We are looking forward to seeing you there, and know that you will have a great time. As of this moment, we expect at least 38 DXers to be present, so the response has been phenomenal! The five-day forecast is for partly cloudy skies and a high of 79, so we couldn't ask for much better weather. Here is some last-minute information on Saturday's event, including the cell phone info that we talked about earlier. You might want to print this out and bring it with you. DATE, PLACE AND TIME: Saturday, August 20, Burrows Park, 25 Burrows Road Madison 53704, 1 PM. If you plan to stay for dinner, it is at the Esquire Club, 1025 North Sherman Avenue Madison 53704 at around 5:30, and a night session follows at our house, 501 Algoma Street Madison 53704. DIRECTIONS: Unlike past events that were at our house, this year's get-together starts at Burrows Park. Do you have the directions that I sent earlier? Do you have any questions on them? Please let me know. We will have written directions to the Esquire Club and our home available for handout at the park. PHONE CONTACT: A reminder that our home phone is 608-244-5497. Please feel free to call any time with questions that you have on the get-together. On Saturday, we plan to be at the park by 11 AM, setting up for the 1 PM start. If you need to reach us before 11, please phone our home. After 11, we can be reached at 608-225-2690. This is the cell phone number of one of the attendees, so please only use it on the day of the gathering and only after 11. (If you misplace this number, call our home phone and we will have it on our answering machine message.) EAST WASHINGTON AVENUE RECONSTRUCTION UPDATE: The major reconstruction of East Washington Avenue described in earlier correspondence continues. At present the road is open with two lanes in each direction. Traffic is moving very nicely, but there are jam-ups at times. We are still recommending that you get to the park via Hwy 30/Aberg Avenue, if coming from out-of-town. This is probably the way you would come anyway. ROADWORK AROUND THE PARK: There has been road replacement around Burrows Park this summer, including Burrows Road that leads to the park. At present, that work is nearing completion. However, there have been barriers up at times. A route is always left open to the park, so don't be discouraged by the site of barriers. DOOR PRIZES, HANDOUTS AND DEMONSTRATIONS: We will have door prizes this year, provided by Universal Radio and possibly others. The drawing will be at the Esquire Club, but you do not have to be present to win; we will get your prize to you. We will have sample bulletins from four of the major national clubs (IRCA, NASWA, NRC and WTFDA), plus Popular Communications magazines and Universal catalogs, for handout. We have at least one antenna demonstration lined up, and hopefully will have at least one other radio related demonstration. If you would like to demonstrate one of your home-built radios, please bring it along. We have a good area for demonstration, and I know that there would be major interest. We are looking forward to seeing you this Saturday! 73 Bill and Nina Article: 320983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1123398569.477493.172820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123401513.545258.280660@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1123455091.088616.271570@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0WNJe.570041$cg1.141068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1123770208.103574.121620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1123799818.597801.119670@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5e7Le.594967$cg1.541107@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1BfMe.103191$5N3.87360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <3LoMe.618212$cg1.524192@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: wtd - Zenith 7XT40 transistor schems Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:07:55 GMT "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message news:3LoMe.618212$cg1.524192@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Hey Jim, > > If you could e-mail me directly at: p dot gianako at worldnet dot > att dot net that would be great! Thanks Pete, I see the info in your later post! jim menning Article: 320984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Supercharge battery was:Re: A new way to power your old radios From: Larry References: <22945-43014B3D-568@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:00:58 -0400 oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote in news:22945-43014B3D- 568@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net: > ..Which begs the question, what manner of charger is capable of > supplying that much current? It would have to be in the hundreds of > amps. Some kind of giant capacitor bank? > Bill(oc) > > In the car, being able to store MOST of the energy generated during even the quickest braking is of PRIME importance. Current technology dynamic breaking hasn't been able to store 5% of the available power because the Ni-Metal Hydride battery pack simply can't recharge that fast, chemically. Toshiba has solved this problem, it seems. The power from the big traction motors IS available....These are NOT 12V or 24V motors, these are 400 VOLT motors! At 400V, real power is at a much lower current, of course. A 400 volt battery pack stores 400AH in an hour at 1 amp...if the battery can charge at 1A. The charging current of the high voltage battery pack is MUCH lower and MUCH more power will be stored by braking the traction motors. The new batteries will charge at ANY charge rate, same as the old batteries. But the limit of charge rate maximum is, obviously, hundreds of times higher....(c; Your home charger will have 100A 240VAC service. The "recharging station" on the interstate will have 1000A 908VAC service on HIS charging station. You'll be on your way in a couple of minutes....not 14 hours like now. Cool.....way cool. I hope the engineer who designed it gets filthy rich in the process..... -- Larry Article: 320985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: replace 400v cap with a 350v? Date: 16 Aug 2005 15:23:01 -0500 Message-ID: <43024a92$0$16818$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <1124146849.922323.109160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <_76dnUI9pqtQuZzeRVn-ug@comcast.com> gb wrote: > I would prefer to go UP in voltage ratings and not DOWN - especially since > many of the older radios and TVs were designed for 110/115 VAC from your > local power company. This voltage is now 120 VAC or higher in some regions > of the US. > > greg This may be a significant change. I've had the high voltage sections of electronic products fail in my home: computer monitors, a microwave, and a TV (all modern, of course). I found 126 volts in the house and called the power company. Their guy said that 126 is normal for them; they get concerned when it's 127 or more. Bubba Article: 320986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CigarSki" Subject: Re: Breaking News! On November 1, 2005 your world WILL CHANGE! Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:54:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3mf23rF16mjquU1@individual.net> References: <1122796625.861893.206790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124225388.707206.204810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >I can't wait till Nov. 1. I'm going to resurrect this thread with > relish! > Maybe even a little mustard... Ski Article: 320987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Definition of insanity: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124072316.365169.14520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_OadnVcEWfj84JzeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <1124194522.750793.189680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1124201718.852735.273190@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In <1124201718.852735.273190@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" writes: >Haven't looked at the auction but I can imagine. I'm sure whoever is >bidding these pretties up high are not the RARP crowd, Eddie. Right. The folks who buy these probably spend less than we do, overall, on radios. They're looking for one, nice, working set. This one was gorgeous. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 320988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paragon Video & Stereo" Subject: Cartridge for a Ristaucrat 2020 45 Phonograph Player Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:44:53 -0500 Hi, Do any of you have or know someone who might have a cartridge and stylus for a Ristaucrat Model 2020 home 45 player for sale? You can email me at smalawski@yahoo.com Thank you, Regards, Scott. Article: 320989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dr. Hardcrab" References: <1122796625.861893.206790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Breaking News! On November 1, 2005 your world WILL CHANGE! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:54:39 GMT "sairenns" wrote in message news:1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Please spread the word. > > This is very important. > > http://sairenns.freespaces.com > > Breaking news for this/all newsgroup(s), please spread the word. How 'bout someone spreading an STD and you catch it all.... Article: 320990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dr. Hardcrab" References: <1122796625.861893.206790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Breaking News! On November 1, 2005 your world WILL CHANGE! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:55:46 GMT "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:P8uMe.5689$Y55.4636@trnddc06... > > "sairenns" wrote in message > news:1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> Please spread the word. >> >> This is very important. >> >> http://sairenns.freespaces.com >> >> Breaking news for this/all newsgroup(s), please spread the word. > > How 'bout someone spreading an STD and you catch it all.... Sorry. Thought this was spread by a cross-posting alien.... Article: 320991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1124201263.001092.183670@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Service info needed for changer in Philco 42-1010 console Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:39:12 GMT "SteelRail" wrote in message news:1124201263.001092.183670@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I need service info and an exploded diagram on the changer in the > Philco 42-1010 console. Also - what sources are there for rebuilt or > replacement rubber parts and wheels for this changer? > I'm looking for the same thing. I picked up one of these consoles off the side of the road Friday. I have the schematic from NostalgiaAir, but need some in-depth changer info before I rip into mine. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 320992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Can't Get Rid of Predicta TV Sets Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:23:43 -0600 Message-ID: <4793-4302838F-1083@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1124235164.970910.141880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Right at this time mid summer seems everything is moving slow as it does every year around now . Hold off till mid winter or so then re place the add in the paper or wherever . Article: 320993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 01:22:29 GMT Tim, Are they as accurate as a decent digital meter? Nope. Then again, most of don't need 6-digit accuracy. The Simpson 260 meters are *the* perfect bench VOM (IMO) because they are electrically rugged, and most important, can be easily repaired. Steve Article: 320994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <43015011_1@news1.prserv.net> Subject: Re: Internet bugs Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:38:14 -0500 Message-ID: <43029a78_4@news1.prserv.net> -- > Does ATT Worldnet still exist? > > Phil B > ATT is going through a real identity crisis at the moment. ATT Worldnet is still around (@ATT.net) while the old IBM.NET which ATT bought runs under attglobal.net or ATT.BIZ. All of them are in danger of being absorbed by SBC, the old baby bell Southwestern Bell. Daughter eats mother sort of thing. None of the ATT branches have been very happy lately, as ATT seems hell-bent on self destruction. Cf. Lucent and some of their other misadventures. C. G. Article: 320995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: Subject: Re: Ungar Model 6763 Soldering Gun Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:42:25 -0500 Message-ID: <43029b6b_4@news1.prserv.net> Ross: I suggest you repost with the following title: WTB: tip for Ungar 6763 Soldering Iron. And also post to the alt.sci whatever NGs where current test and repair is discussed. -- Crazy George The attglobal.net address is a SPAM trap. Please change that part to: attbiz properly formatted. From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 17 10:35:21 EDT 2005 Article: 320996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:38:29 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <86h2g1t2kri2lck7vda2lqh2pc3evgs4e6@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-574.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:320996 Hi, Jim wrote: >That sounds like you have a 2-unit model, which has the tuner in one >chassis and the power amp in a separate chassis. The six pin plug just >connects those 2 parts together. It's beginning to look that way, and the power amp is missing. Back to search mode. Alan Article: 320997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: 1951 Magnavox TV tube diagram/schematic Message-ID: <43029e75.11960375@news-server> References: <1124114698.331755.134400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:20:26 GMT On 15 Aug 2005 08:01:21 -0700, "wmartin2" wrote: >Been searching for a tube layout or better a schematic for a Magnavox >model MV10A-1, style 1118-320 from 1951 (could be 1952?). Trying to >repair for a friend but missing one tube and a couple of others can't >read numbers. Anyone have one? > Can't find either number in Sams index... Article: 320998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1124114698.331755.134400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43029e75.11960375@news-server> Subject: Re: 1951 Magnavox TV tube diagram/schematic Message-ID: <8mxMe.6706$mb4.1124@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:33:40 GMT "Tom Bavis" wrote in message news:43029e75.11960375@news-server... > On 15 Aug 2005 08:01:21 -0700, "wmartin2" wrote: > >>Been searching for a tube layout or better a schematic for a >>Magnavox >>model MV10A-1, style 1118-320 from 1951 (could be 1952?). Trying to >>repair for a friend but missing one tube and a couple of others >>can't >>read numbers. Anyone have one? >> > Can't find either number in Sams index... That's the same problem I had. Couldn't find anything in Sam's by those numbers. I think we need a little more info to help on this one. Even a picture of the chassis may help. jim menning Article: 320999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Neat WW2 poster Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:27:05 -0600 Message-ID: I found a copy of a neat WW2 poster asking for donations of "your old radio and parts" for the Servicemen. Since I can't post it to the binaries, if anyone wants a copy, drop me a line and I'll email it to you. Ben Article: 321000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Binaries problem -- update Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:36:47 -0700 I had the same issue with A certain cable company (name ryhmes with socks) and did the same thing!!! Bob in phx "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:faoMe.6198$RZ2.5281@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > For anyone else who is experiencing problems reading the binaries: > > For the past few days I've had trouble reading the messages on the > alt.binaries.pictures.radio newsgroup. The problem has been intermittent > but is still there. I even posted a message earlier today, and it > "didn't" get posted, at least not for awhile. > > I went to Earthlink support -- which is another newsgroup. Apparently the > Earthlink rep who monitors this is Mike Easter, who seems to blame all the > problems on the users.. In any case I posted the problem, with others > chiming in, and Mike's response was something like, check some private > website and see if the newsgroup got leased elsewhere, or something like > that. > > I went back to the binaries, and found that it has removed every message > posted since 8/12. > > So -- I set up an account on news.earthlink.west.net, instead of > news.east.earthlink.net. The binaries on the "west" side are working just > fine. > > So -- if anyone else here has had trouble with the binaries, and is using > Earthlink, try moving west. I sent this information to Mike Easter; maybe > by the end of the year he'll figure out that Earthlink has a bug in it. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 321001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? Date: 17 Aug 2005 03:44:37 GMT Message-ID: References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> (tim87529@gmail.com) writes: > A while ago my soldering iron was rendered useless because the tip > broke off so close to the base of the iron that I couldn't grip it with > pliers to remove it. > > To my knowledge, the tip has been in there for the last half century > and won't unscrew easily. > > Do any of you have some good hints at how to get the remnants of my old > tip out so I can replace it? I hate to scrap this iron - I've used it > since the very beginning. > That used to happen to me, too often. I went through a couple of irons early on, and then splurged on a Radio Shack modular iron. I think it was actually an Ungar iron. There was a handle, a heating element, and a tip. I didn't have a holder for the iron, and it often fell off the bench. A number of times, the tip broke at the heating element, and I just scrapped the element. I can't even remember why they had both, but there were elements with an internal thread, which meant the element went if the tip broke, and external threads, where the tip could be removed when broken. I caught on after two or three tip breakages, and was better off. That was pretty much thirty years ago. I think if it happened now, I'd try to drill out the broken tip. Michael Article: 321002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "sphipps" Subject: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:49:26 -0500 Message-ID: <11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com> Hi all, Picked up today at a thrift store for $4 what looks like the early version of the 10" GE Portacolor from 1966 or so, but it's branded as a Philco Ford. They look almost exactly alike except for some minor cosmetic changes and both use compactrons. Anyone know if GE branded some of their Portacolors as Philco Ford, or did Philco produce their own under a very similar design? Might post a pic of it on the binaries tomorrow. Thanks, Steve P. Joplin, MO kawninja@nospamcableone.net Article: 321003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:11:06 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Steve" wrote in message news:pjwMe.9526$p%3.37638@typhoon.sonic.net... > Tim, > Are they as accurate as a decent digital meter? Nope. > Then again, most of don't need 6-digit accuracy. > The Simpson 260 meters are *the* perfect bench VOM > (IMO) because they are electrically rugged, and > most important, can be easily repaired. yeah, its kind of like laptops. whether you got the latest greatest or one that's 10 years old running windows 3.0. once you drop them a few times they all run at the same speed.... randy Article: 321004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:23:14 -0500 Message-ID: <9fc5g1d6dhpn6sk3rtjsb4foo5gdarhn45@4ax.com> References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 16 Aug 2005 15:30:19 -0700 tim87529@gmail.com wrote: >Is the 260 as good as it claims to be? The Simpson 260s have a huge circle of friends, and I know I'm about to offend a bunch of them by saying that I really don't care for them. I should add that I started out with Simpsons, but my loyalty changed when I found something better. While they became the standard of the industry, I really don't understand why. The case continues to be made of a brittle plastic even after 50 years of better materials out there, and they really never had any kind of protection that was all that effective. They use a battery that is getting quite hard to find today. My favorite is a Weston 666, also available from Heath as the IM-104. They were sold for a few years in the '70s. They came in a virtually unbreakable case (that you CAN drop 6' onto a concrete floor, without damage or loss of calibration) with a big, beautiful, taut-band meter movement, and a 10 MOhm input impedance with FET inputs and a protection circuit that will just blow the front-panel replacable fuse with no other damage. The batteries are AA and D cells. Most people have never seen this Weston/Heath meter because it was never successful in the marketplace in the face of customer loyalty to Simpson, but it is actually a much better meter. Of course, now I usually just grab my Fluke 23. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Schematic needed: Blaupunkt Frankfurt TR De Luxe Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:23:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1e4sf1pb62e7eh39p6crm73d1j218chs7g@4ax.com> <86h2g1t2kri2lck7vda2lqh2pc3evgs4e6@4ax.com> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:38:29 -0400 Alan Douglas wrote: > Jim wrote: > >>That sounds like you have a 2-unit model, which has the tuner in one >>chassis and the power amp in a separate chassis. The six pin plug just >>connects those 2 parts together. > > It's beginning to look that way, and the power amp is missing. >Back to search mode. Oops, sorry about that. I suspect that finding a compatable power amp would be like finding a needle in a haystack. OTOH, it's possible that any Blaupunkt power unit would work. I don't know. Some of these are shown in the Sams AR (AutoRadio) series. That would be a source of info if you need schematics. My advise would be to just look for one of the later ones that are in a single unit. A nice Frankfort-US would be AM/FM/SW and would be 6/12V and +/- ground. Up thru W-series (~'66), they were 2-piece. By Y (~'68) they were single units. Sometime in the 70s they (at least some of them) started coming from Taiwan. The Y ones that I have seem rather nice, but I HAVE had some troubles with them over the years. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:51:21 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5e1b3$4302c24b$4232bde1$11146@COQUI.NET> Michael Black wrote: > (tim87529@gmail.com) writes: > >>A while ago my soldering iron was rendered useless because the tip >>broke off so close to the base of the iron that I couldn't grip it with >>pliers to remove it. >> >>To my knowledge, the tip has been in there for the last half century >>and won't unscrew easily. >> > > > I went through a couple of irons early on, and then splurged on a Radio > Shack modular iron. I think it was actually an Ungar iron. There was > a handle, a heating element, and a tip. I didn't have a holder for > the iron, and it often fell off the bench. A number of times, the > tip broke at the heating element, and I just scrapped the element. > I can't even remember why they had both, but there were elements with > an internal thread, which meant the element went if the tip broke, and > external threads, where the tip could be removed when broken. I caught > on after two or three tip breakages, and was better off. > > That was pretty much thirty years ago. I think if it happened now, > I'd try to drill out the broken tip. > > Michael > Its a little late now to suggest it but next time use the anti-seize compound. It really seems to work. -Bill Article: 321007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:41:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:15:12 -0700, tim87529 wrote: > I'll have to agree with you on the accuracy of the ohms ranges. I > measured some resistors and the readings were spot-on. > > I got conflicting readings when I measured the powerline voltage with > this meter and a newer (80's) Taiwanese one. The Taiwanese meter read > 125v whereas the 260 read 120v. Any idea how to tell which one is > inaccurate? > > > 73, > > Tim Maybe neither one. Analog meters are rated for accuracy as a percent of full scale. So if you are using the 250VAC scale and it is rated at 3% accuracy, the reading could be off by 7.5V (250 X 0.03 = 7.5) ANYWHERE ON THE SCALE and still be in spec. So if you measure a voltage that is really 120V, it could read anything from 112.5V to 127.5V. If you measured a true 25V, it could read from 17.5V to 32.5V. That's why you pick a range that puts the pointer as high on the scale as possible (without going off the end). Now lets look at a hypothetical 3 1/2 digit DMM rated at 1% of reading + 3 digits. On the 200V range (199V full scale) the least significant digit represents 0.1V. If it reads 120.0V, it could be off by 1.5V (120 X 0.01 + 0.3 = 1.5). That's 5 times better, mainly because it is rated as a percent of reading rather than a percent of full scale. On another (related) subject, if anyone has an older 260 with a D cell clamped to the back of the meter housing and it is reading about 2% low on all scales, the problem is the D cell. The meter movement is unshielded. When these meters where made, the case of a D cell was the zinc can wrapped in cardboard which caused no problems. Modern "leakproof" D cells have the zinc can inside a steel case. The magnetic field of the meter extends outside the case and the steel can of the D cell shunts part of it making the meter read low. You can check this by measuring a stable voltage with the cell in and then out (it is only used on the ohms ranges). If the reading changes you have the problem. My solution was to mount a holder for an AA cell away from the meter. An alkaline AA cell will do just fine for the ohmmeter and the smaller size and greater spacing lets the meter read correctly. Good luck. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 321008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:50:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <5e1b3$4302c24b$4232bde1$11146@COQUI.NET> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:51:21 -0400, -ex- wrote: > Michael Black wrote: > >> (tim87529@gmail.com) writes: >> >>>A while ago my soldering iron was rendered useless because the tip >>>broke off so close to the base of the iron that I couldn't grip it with >>>pliers to remove it. >>> >>>To my knowledge, the tip has been in there for the last half century >>>and won't unscrew easily. >>> >> >> >> I went through a couple of irons early on, and then splurged on a Radio >> Shack modular iron. I think it was actually an Ungar iron. There was >> a handle, a heating element, and a tip. I didn't have a holder for >> the iron, and it often fell off the bench. A number of times, the >> tip broke at the heating element, and I just scrapped the element. >> I can't even remember why they had both, but there were elements with >> an internal thread, which meant the element went if the tip broke, and >> external threads, where the tip could be removed when broken. I caught >> on after two or three tip breakages, and was better off. >> >> That was pretty much thirty years ago. I think if it happened now, >> I'd try to drill out the broken tip. >> >> Michael >> > > Its a little late now to suggest it but next time use the anti-seize > compound. It really seems to work. > > -Bill I've tried anti-seize too and had the opposite results, it smokes and smells bad and doesn't do much else. What does work, is whenever you are finished with the iron, let it cool. Then remove the tip and tap the tip and the iron together (with the tip cavity pointed down). This loosens the crud that forms and it falls out. If your tip is held with a set screw, remove and replace it too. If you do it every time you use the iron, there shouldn't be a problem. Of course, you can do it before you start using it to avoid having to wait for it to cool. Good luck. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 321009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:00:18 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <5e1b3$4302c24b$4232bde1$11146@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <22e7$4302d275$4232bde1$8654@COQUI.NET> Jim Mueller wrote: >> >>Its a little late now to suggest it but next time use the anti-seize >>compound. It really seems to work. >> >>-Bill > > > I've tried anti-seize too and had the opposite results, it smokes and > smells bad and doesn't do much else. What does work, is whenever you are > finished with the iron, let it cool. Then remove the tip and tap the tip > and the iron together (with the tip cavity pointed down). This > loosens the crud that forms and it falls out. If your tip is held with a > set screw, remove and replace it too. If you do it every time you use > the iron, there shouldn't be a problem. Of course, you can do it before > you start using it to avoid having to wait for it to cool. > > Good luck. Interesting that you've had bad results. I use the anti-seize when installing a new tip and yes it smokes and stinks for the first fire up. I can go several months before I need to take out the tip for 'lengthening' because I have filed it down so much. I use mine (Weller SP-40) several hours daily. Never once have I had the setscrew freeze up although the gooey substance has long gone. Yes, its corroded and crusty after a while but it still breaks free easily. Ungar #8001 Anti-Seize is what I'm using. -Bill Article: 321010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <1122796625.861893.206790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124225388.707206.204810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1124251042.297074.41080@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Breaking News! On November 1, 2005 your world WILL CHANGE! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:17:05 -1200 "sairenns" wrote in message news:1124251042.297074.41080@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > toxcrusadr wrote: >> I can't wait till Nov. 1. I'm going to resurrect this thread with >> relish! >> >> :-D > > > Sir, please do. I hope you are one of the many who will see and > understand. > > If you have eyes to see, see. > > If you have ears to hear, hear. > > http://sairenns.zoomshare.com > > > "sairenns" wrote: >> >> Please spread the word. >> >> This is very important. >> >> http://sairenns.freespaces.com >> >> Breaking news for this/all newsgroup(s), please spread the word. > > Whether it be a government, corporate or other entity, the truth can > not be stopped... > > Thank you ZOOMSHARE.COM for bravely stepping up to the plate. To serve > our site. > > http://sairenns.zoomshare.com > This is like waiting to see if the book of Revelations unfolds as told. We are told it is coming, but then we've been told that since it was written! How many more generations have to wait to see the climax? Article: 321011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Can't Get Rid of Predicta TV Sets Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:00:21 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124221388.908701.47390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124235164.970910.141880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> isotope115@yahoo.com wrote: > I had one of the sets and a poster offering the rest of the stuff at > the last CHRS swap meet about a week ago, but I didn't get any serious > inquiries. > > Hollywood is too far away (6-7 hours drive from the Bay Area). I have > had some interest from the Los Angeles area, but the driving time puts > too big a barrier in the way. Vancouver is about 1000 miles and 15 > hours of driving time from here. > > It just seems like there must be someone in the Bay Area that would > give his right arm for this stuff, if I could just find him. Maybe > Craig's List should be the next thing to try. > Is this one of your sets? http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/ebayitems/predicta1.jpg and is this one of your chassis? http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/ebayitems/predicta2.jpg I was there at the swap meet you were at.....I came damn close to making an offer, but I just don't have any room at all any more for something like this. Most people I know won't consider buying one of these sets unless they can actually see at least a bright raster on the screen. The CRTs in these sets were notorius for premature failure, and replacements are not easy to find nor popularly priced. Given that the Predictas are absolute bastards to work on in the first place, a seller needs to have a provably good CRT in the set. Buying one raster-unseen is a crapshoot, at best. As for hollywood, they don't give a damn...The set just has to look good. Most of the time they superimpose a video on the screen area in scenes where a TV set is supposed to be turned on anyway. -Scott Article: 321012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Cartridge for a Ristaucrat 2020 45 Phonograph Player Date: 17 Aug 2005 04:21:03 -0500 Message-ID: <430300f6$0$16828$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: Paragon Video & Stereo wrote: It's probably possible to use a substitute cartridge. Try Ed Saunders in the Atlanta area. He's on eBay and has a huge inventory of piezo items. Bubba Article: 321013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Message-ID: <_%DMe.8249$Je.1437@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:07:54 GMT The Simpson 260 has been around for a lot of years, and for a long time has been a standard for technicians. About the only thing that comes close is the Triplett 630. However there are two things you should keep in mind: first, the Simpson (and the Triplett) has an input impedance of 20,000 ohms per volt. The VTVM on your bench has 11 megs input impedance. When working on high impedance tube circuits, the Simpson may not give you an accurate reading because the meter "loads" down the circuit -- and the device in question may stop working while you're making those measurements. The VTVM is far better for the purpose. The other thing to keep in mind is the fact that there are better meters out there today. Most digital meters have a high impedance input and have 3-4 digit accuracy. I'm not saying this to run down the Simpson. It's just something to keep in mind. The Simpson is to this day a very handy and likable meter, and I'll be the first to tell you that there are plenty of situations where an analog meter is better than digital. An example is checking for voltage fluctuations. So is the Simpson the best meter you can buy? No. Is it a worthwhile addition to your arsenal of test equipment? Absolutely! Enjoy the meter -- it's a good one. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I just bought a Simpson 260 series 6M voltmeter. I've heard a lot of > good reviews about it so I went ahead and got one to supplement my > not-so-portable VTVM. > > Is the 260 as good as it claims to be? > > I'm curious to hear your comments and stories about the meters. > > > > 73, > > Tim > Article: 321014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Can't Get Rid of Predicta TV Sets References: <1124221388.908701.47390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:16:07 GMT isotope115@yahoo.com wrote: > I don't want to ship them, so I was hoping somebody local would show > up. Well, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the obvious: eBay (and you have at least two options). Option 1: If you are *absolutely* dead set against shipping, all you do is mention in the auction that this is for *local pick-up only*. You might be surprised at the response that you get; even if *you* don't want to drive down to L.A., someone there might be more than glad to drive up your way or you may indeed find the "right person" nearby. I sold a Philco console radio this way--bought by a guy the next town over. Option 2: Again, eBay. You say in your ad that buyer pays shipping and packing >from a packaging store near you. Granted, you will have to deliver the set locally to the packaging store, but I presume this is do-able. I sold three boat anchor 1950s TV sets to a guy in L.A. (I'm in the Detroit area). He paid for foam packing and shipping. All I had to do was haul the TVs 5-10 miles to the shipping store. In any event, it seems worth a try. If you run it on the e place, it will be seen by a large number of people and if it does not sell, you are out less than 5 bucks, a trivial amount. Good luck... 73, Carter K8VT Article: 321015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Richard" Subject: Can anyone possibly email me some tube data? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:21:42 +0100 Message-ID: <3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net> Was advised that maybe this group is better, rather than rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors. Hi. Not sure if this will work, but I'm seeking valve data on LOCTAL tubes only. Anyone out there have a list of LOCTAL tubes made, along with their data? My email is: hobby_electronicsDELETE@ntlworld.com Of course, please remove"DELETE". At the moment I've got very limited data. 35Z3 1LA4 1LA6 1LH4 1LN5 7A6 7A7 7A8 7B5 7B6 7B7 7B8 7C5 7C6 7C7 7Y4 12B7 14A4 14A5 14A7/12B7 14B8 14C7 14F7 I think there must be more than 23 tube types in the LOCTAL range! :c) Thanks. P.S. BTW, if I had to get one, what Amercan valve data book would contain LOCTAL data? I'm in UK and I think LOCTAL tubes are pretty much an American tube. Article: 321016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:20:49 -0400 It's called an 'easy out'. It has a left hand course thread. Get the correct size, drill a hole in the center of the tip, thread it in ccw. Ken Phil Nelson wrote: > Could you try to screw a backwards-threaded tap into the stub and then back > it out? Seems like I've seen something like that at the hardware store. I > suppose you'd want to drill a little starter hole first, maybe soak the > joint with WD-40 as well. > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 321017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Richard" Subject: Re: Can anyone possibly email me some tube data? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:43:17 +0100 Message-ID: <3mgm4kF174126U1@individual.net> References: <3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net> "Richard" wrote in message news:3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net... > Was advised that maybe this group is better, rather than > rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors. > > Hi. Not sure if this will work, but I'm seeking valve data on LOCTAL tubes > only. > > Anyone out there have a list of LOCTAL tubes made, along with their data? > > My email is: > > hobby_electronicsDELETE@ntlworld.com > > Of course, please remove"DELETE". Actually, just tube designations would be fine, perhaps the full tube data is on the WWW. Not sure though how you send tube designations without all the data. Article: 321018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:27:11 -0400 "Engineer" wrote in news:crGdnbA6l7XZBp_eRVn- 3w@rogers.com: > Beerbarrel" wrote in message > news:cgg2g1hq8hu23nqnaoibqb2edunuubv2dt@4ax.com... >> Another great reason to drink beer! >> > ... and we all know that you don't buy beer, you just rent it. > Cheers (indeed!) > Roger > > > You FILTER it.....(c; -- Larry Article: 321019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford From: Larry References: <11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:30:30 -0400 "sphipps" wrote in news:11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com: > 10" GE Portacolor from 1966 I bought one new around that time. Probably the worst TV I ever owned... -- Larry Article: 321020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters From: Larry References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:41:56 -0400 tim87529@gmail.com wrote in news:1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Is the 260 as good as it claims to be? > No, I calibrated thousands of them in Navy cal labs since 1960's. It has one of the highest calibration failure rates of any meter we had, but the government just kept buying American.....(sigh) Over the years, many people brought me their home VOMs for me to test on the fancy lab equipment. One of the finest VOMs that NEVER FAILED being near perfect was the Radio Shack Micronta little mini VOM where the meter movement was up in the corner and swung the needle 90 degrees. The range switch was in the other corner making it really compact. We metrologists used to have a great laugh because any time one came in some idiot would always bet it wouldn't cal at all. 99% of them would SPLIT the scale points, dead center in the middle of them. It was uncanny how accurate they were at $10 each. Most all the Microntas were nearly as good. Simpson made sure you bought half the meter if you dared try to fix it because the meter movement was hard built into the whole front case of it so you couldn't get to it. Linearity across the scales was always marginal in all ranges. Sometimes you could get them to pass cal by fudging at full scale with the magnet charger to bring the mid and lower scales up enough to call it "ok". Simpson 260 is NOT the holy grail of VOMs..... Today, Harbor Freight, the Chinese tool importer, has a nice VOM real cheap. I got one but have forgotten the price. I checked the cal on mine and was astonished to see how accurate it was for so cheap. I measured a 9V battery to get a portable reference on my DVM then opened several boxes at the store to see what the meters read. They were all quite accurate at measuring this battery test. Harbor Freight also has two great DVMs. Hell, one of 'em is less than $10 on sale! The other is a rubber-covered, autoranging DVM that also has a freq counter, cap meter, transistor tester that measures Hfe for $40. It's a better meter than the $150 Fluke! Don't let brand names go to your head. Asians are very precise people... -- Larry Article: 321021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1124255653.301026.6750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Here's another potent Emerson tabletop Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: <43033811$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1124255653.301026.6750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > 10 tubes w/PP 6V6. > http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=1499778 > Sure isn't much to look at. It is surpsising to find a 10 tube chassis in such a drab cabinet. Larry Article: 321022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Richard" Subject: Re: Can anyone possibly email me some tube data? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:15:21 +0100 Message-ID: <3mgrh9F1716spU1@individual.net> References: <3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net> "Richard" wrote in message news:3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net... > Was advised that maybe this group is better, rather than > rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors. > > Hi. Not sure if this will work, but I'm seeking valve data on LOCTAL tubes > only. > > Anyone out there have a list of LOCTAL tubes made, along with their data? > > My email is: > > hobby_electronicsDELETE@ntlworld.com > > Of course, please remove"DELETE". Someone is looking around for a spare tube databook for me. IF he finds it, I could well be fixed up. I'll let folks know what happens. Article: 321023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:14:05 -0400 Message-ID: <430338c6$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96B556F2F4E27noone@63.223.7.253... > "sphipps" wrote in > news:11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com: > > > 10" GE Portacolor from 1966 > > I bought one new around that time. Probably the worst TV I ever owned... > > -- > Larry The dot pitch of the CRT on the early sets was quite large leading to very grainy images. The Portacolor was a long lived product line however going through several iterations up until 1981 or 1982 I seem to recall. Larry Fowkes Article: 321024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert McLean" References: <3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net> <1124281437.474752.132800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can anyone possibly email me some tube data? Message-ID: <1sHMe.12763$kz6.755064@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:02:44 -0400 "John Stone" wrote in message news:BF28983C.109FE%jmsent2@comcast.net... > > On 8/17/05 7:23 AM, in article > 1124281437.474752.132800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "Peter Wieck" > wrote: > >> Have you tried Rich Lancaster's site? >> >> www.nostalgiaair.org >> >> You will have to enter each tube individually, but it does give data >> and base diagrams for most tubes. There must be others as well. >> > > I like this one a lot: > > http://tdsl.duncanamps.com/ > I second the TDSL recommendation, in fact to get all the local tubes just do a parametric search on base B8A and B8B and with a couple of keystrokes about 200 tubes pop up. Article: 321025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:20:50 GMT Message-ID: References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <5e1b3$4302c24b$4232bde1$11146@COQUI.NET> -ex- (exray@coqui.net) writes: > Its a little late now to suggest it but next time use the anti-seize > compound. It really seems to work. > > -Bill But the issue in this case is that there's nothing to grab. The tip breaks flush with the heater element, and the remaining tip is inside the element. Someone once suggested heat sink compound as anti-sieze on soldering iron tips, and I have used that with success in more recent decades. Michael Article: 321026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_%DMe.8249$Je.1437@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:50:46 GMT I use three different meters on my bench as well. Simpson 260 for general purpose work RCA WV-98C VTVM for working on tube equipment (high Z, and high voltage ranges) HP 3455 DVM for calibrating other equipment Steve John Stone wrote in message news:BF28972F.108D0%jmsent2@comcast.net... > On 8/17/05 5:07 AM, in article > _%DMe.8249$Je.1437@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > > > So is the Simpson the best meter you can buy? No. Is it a > > worthwhile addition to your arsenal of test equipment? Absolutely! > > > > Enjoy the meter -- it's a good one. > > In my meter "arsenal" I have 3 ac powered VTVM's, 3 digital meters, 2 > battery powered analog FET VOM's (Simpson), and a 260. By far, the 260 gets > used the most. A good reason to use the 260 for old tube radios is that most > voltage charts and schematics assume 20kohm/volt measuring equipment. > Besides it is portable, it is accurate, and it is rugged. And its what I > used when I did repair for a living. > > It is ridiculous to have so many meters, but people just give them to me, > including the 260. > Article: 321027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:25:14 GMT I'll agree to some extent -- Tandy/Radio Shack certainly has a reputation for making some incredibly cheap stuff, but sometimes they make a product that really shines. My personal VOM is an ArcherKit -- doesn't have a model number but I'd bet there's a Micronta that's the same thing. Seems the Microntas have a black case and the kits are blue. In any case it has up to 50k ohms per volt. I've had it around for many years. It certainly doesn't have the rugged feel of the Simpson ot Triplett, but it's smaller and lighter. I've never tried to calibrate or test for accuracy, but I've found it handy to have around. When the VTVM gives me a reading I'm not sure of, or if the probe falls off the wire from use (boy has that happened more than once) I pull out the ol' Archer kit and use it until I can check/fix the VTVM I do have one bugaboo with this meter. The selector switch is a cheap wafer type, and it easily gets dirty and makes erroneous readings. Sometimes I find myself kicking it to get it working, and every so often I open it up to clean the switch. The Simpson and Triplett meters are much better in this respect. If I didn't have this meter, I'd consider a Simpson or Triplett -- but don't need them because I've got this one. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96B558E2C4428noone@63.223.7.253... > tim87529@gmail.com wrote in > news:1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > >> Is the 260 as good as it claims to be? >> > > No, I calibrated thousands of them in Navy cal labs since 1960's. It has > one of the highest calibration failure rates of any meter we had, but the > government just kept buying American.....(sigh) > > Over the years, many people brought me their home VOMs for me to test on > the fancy lab equipment. One of the finest VOMs that NEVER FAILED being > near perfect was the Radio Shack Micronta little mini VOM where the meter > movement was up in the corner and swung the needle 90 degrees. The range > switch was in the other corner making it really compact. We metrologists > used to have a great laugh because any time one came in some idiot would > always bet it wouldn't cal at all. 99% of them would SPLIT the scale > points, dead center in the middle of them. It was uncanny how accurate > they were at $10 each. Most all the Microntas were nearly as good. > > Simpson made sure you bought half the meter if you dared try to fix it > because the meter movement was hard built into the whole front case of it > so you couldn't get to it. Linearity across the scales was always > marginal > in all ranges. Sometimes you could get them to pass cal by fudging at > full > scale with the magnet charger to bring the mid and lower scales up enough > to call it "ok". > > Simpson 260 is NOT the holy grail of VOMs..... > > Today, Harbor Freight, the Chinese tool importer, has a nice VOM real > cheap. I got one but have forgotten the price. I checked the cal on mine > and was astonished to see how accurate it was for so cheap. I measured a > 9V battery to get a portable reference on my DVM then opened several boxes > at the store to see what the meters read. They were all quite accurate at > measuring this battery test. Harbor Freight also has two great DVMs. > Hell, one of 'em is less than $10 on sale! The other is a rubber-covered, > autoranging DVM that also has a freq counter, cap meter, transistor tester > that measures Hfe for $40. It's a better meter than the $150 Fluke! > > Don't let brand names go to your head. Asians are very precise people... > > -- > Larry Article: 321028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:29:22 -1200 "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96B55662C377Cnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Engineer" wrote in news:crGdnbA6l7XZBp_eRVn- > 3w@rogers.com: > >> Beerbarrel" wrote in message >> news:cgg2g1hq8hu23nqnaoibqb2edunuubv2dt@4ax.com... >>> Another great reason to drink beer! >>> >> ... and we all know that you don't buy beer, you just rent it. >> Cheers (indeed!) >> Roger >> >> >> > > You FILTER it.....(c; > > -- > Larry Given some types of urine are more potent than others - like animal to human in comparison OR humans on certain meds, I have to wonder then if experimenting with those various potencies would be similar to experimenting with different Alkaline or perhaps Nicad or NiMH or even Lithium Ion Batteries? To see which one gives the best performance and then "rating" it. Hmmmm. Next would be how to deodorize it without losing it's potency to operate said equipment. Imagine - if such a thing were able to be done - would sure be a different world in many ways. Battery useage and perhaps the subsequent garbage factor from them could dwindle, a "natural" substance could be "recycled" - at least once! This could be a startling new way of doing things. IF it could be deodorized - maybe not a bad deal. Break out the latex gloves and collection flasks. Very interesting concept indeed. Now, if only we could get that to run our cars! We could all tell the Oil Money grubbers where to stick it. clf Article: 321029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:59:31 GMT clfe wrote: > Break out the latex gloves and collection flasks. Very > interesting concept indeed. Now, if only we could get > that to run our cars! I guess I was way ahead of my time when I had a bumper sticker on my 55 Chevy pick up truck that read; "Powered by piss." Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:08:22 -0500 Jim Mueller wrote: > Maybe neither one. Analog meters are rated for accuracy as a percent of > full scale. I admit up front this is picking a nit - but - depends on the analog meter... Some are rated much better. I have one (actually I have a collection of them) that is "rated" and calibrated .2% accuracy anywhere on the scale. DC. AC. *TRUE* RMS. It "calibrates" every 20% of the meter scale (built-in standard cell). Admittedly, these aren't "everyday meters"... but like all things - there are those "exceptions"... (for the curious - the meter I'm talking about is a Sensitive Research Model THACH). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:24:21 -0400 "clfe" wrote in news:AIIMe.30178$Tf5.16913@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net: > Given some types of urine are more potent than others I'm experimenting with some fine Boddington's English Ale in the lab this afternoon. So far the LCD screen has gone out of focus, twice, the PH of the product has increased 0.8 and the A/C compressor hasn't start up on its own.....but more experimenting goes on.... -- Larry Article: 321032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios From: Larry References: <1124299721.857393.231910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:27:45 -0400 dkelvey@hotmail.com wrote in news:1124299721.857393.231910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > Hi > Missed one point in the last part of the note. The urine doesn't > really supply the power, it just works to activate the electrolyte of > the cell. I would guess from the materials listed, the magnesium > supplied the energy. > Dwight > > > We have a 406 Mhz GPS-active EPIRB activated by seawater intruding into the long-storage-life battery. The battery is some exotic (read that expensive) thing that lasts 10 years in the yacht's ditch bag. To turn on the EPIRB to send data to USCG via the overhead satellite cluster, all you do is drop it in the water. It tells CG where it is within 3' now that Selective Availability is off. "Stay with the boat" has new meaning these days in the oceans. -- Larry Article: 321033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford From: Larry References: <11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com> <430338c6$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:29:28 -0400 "Larry Fowkes" wrote in news:430338c6$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com: > The dot pitch of the CRT on the early sets was quite large leading to > very grainy images. The Portacolor was a long lived product line > however going through several iterations up until 1981 or 1982 I seem > to recall. > Big dots and the WHITISH SCREEN, like those cheap Chinese B/W portables still are...making it impossible to watch in anything but a darkened room. As a portable, outside in the daytime, the word "useless" comes to mind.... -- Larry Article: 321034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:01:19 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> in any case, the resoslution of an analog meter is partially dependant on the width of the needle itself and the eyes ability to ascertain unique positions. in other words, an analog meter is only as good as your eye. randy > I admit up front this is picking a nit - but - depends on the analog > meter... Some are rated much better. I have one (actually I have a > collection of them) that is "rated" and calibrated .2% accuracy anywhere > on the scale. DC. AC. *TRUE* RMS. It "calibrates" every 20% of the meter > scale (built-in standard cell). > > Admittedly, these aren't "everyday meters"... but like all things - there > are those "exceptions"... > > (for the curious - the meter I'm talking about is a Sensitive Research > Model THACH). > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 321035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" Subject: A note on eBay's Buyer Protection Program Message-ID: <27MMe.3220$hF1.2103@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:21:34 GMT I purchased something on eBay and returned it because it was defective. The seller says I damaged the item and suggested I get a refund through this program. This program is a joke meant to frustrate buyers and protect the seller. It should be called the "Seller Protection Program". It has a long list of preliminary steps that must be completed first including negotiating with the seller. Then you have to try to first get a refund from your credit card company or PayPal. I paid by PayPal, but there is a 45 day limit and I had been "negotiating" that long. After all that, you have to submit a "Item Not Received or Not as Described" report. This causes some more negotiations with the seller. And if the seller still refuses a refund, you have to close it and escalate it. This last process will require you to get a professional appraisal on company letterhead that the item is indeed not as described. And if you pass their test, you get a refund minus $25. Of course, I had already returned the item and didn't have it in my possesion. And the item cost me $88, with about $20 in shipping I already paid. The little light finally came on and I realized I wasn't going to see one cent of a refund. Article: 321036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <27MMe.3220$hF1.2103@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: A note on eBay's Buyer Protection Program Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:29:10 -0400 Strange how eBay doesn't want to get involved then makes rules to slow down any and all refund process just to protect sellers. Asking Paypal or your credit card is plainly wrong as they are only payment services. They have nothing to do with the sellers. Looks like there is less and less protection for the buyers. With such short delays and loops to jump in, all the seller has to do is slow it down more until the 45 days has passed. That is just too easy. Syl Article: 321037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" References: <3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Can anyone possibly email me some tube data? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:47:34 -0300 Message-ID: <430393cf$0$18650$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Try in http://www.nj7p.org/Tube.php It/s a good site for tubes data REgards Heriberto (From Argentina) "Richard" escribió en el mensaje news:3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net... > Was advised that maybe this group is better, rather than > rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors. > > Hi. Not sure if this will work, but I'm seeking valve data on LOCTAL tubes > only. > > Anyone out there have a list of LOCTAL tubes made, along with their data? > > My email is: > > hobby_electronicsDELETE@ntlworld.com > > Of course, please remove"DELETE". > > At the moment I've got very limited data. > > 35Z3 > 1LA4 > 1LA6 > 1LH4 > 1LN5 > 7A6 > 7A7 > 7A8 > 7B5 > 7B6 > 7B7 > 7B8 > 7C5 > 7C6 > 7C7 > 7Y4 > 12B7 > 14A4 > 14A5 > 14A7/12B7 > 14B8 > 14C7 > 14F7 > > I think there must be more than 23 tube types in the LOCTAL range! :c) > > Thanks. > > P.S. BTW, if I had to get one, what Amercan valve data book would contain > LOCTAL data? I'm in UK and I think LOCTAL tubes are pretty much an American > tube. > Article: 321038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Big Project - Should I Keep Going? References: <1124305505.028139.102380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4CMMe.1516$ej5.1508@lakeread05> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:54:36 -0400 That's a great project, but a long one. I use my 5th edition regurally, but it's a long process, good bedtime reading. I would love to see that on line, but it's too much for one person to do. Any chance of having other programmer types do some of it? Or make up an entry form that dummies like myself could fill in, everyone takes a page. You could email copies to volunteers. Ken dave@hurtle.com wrote: > I recently acquired a copy of the Mallory Radio Encyclopedia (6th ed). > This book is particularly useful because it provides the tube > complements for thousands of radios. > > I thought it was fairly obvious that this would be great info to have > online to determine missing tubes or IDing radios by the tube set. > > I'm relatively sure this was the source used for the Larsen's Locator > book because I don't know of any other source for the info without > flipping through every page of the Rider's manuals. > > I started copying it into a database and what a chore it is! I did > about six pages of over 500 and I was averaging 1 - 1.5 hours per page. > There are 45 radio per page (average) so we're talking about 20,000 > radios conservatively. > > If you want to see a sample of what I had in mind look here: > http://www.hurtle.com/tube_complement > > The database just has the 6 pages I copied. That's everything up to > Admiral so you won't find your beloved Philcos and Zeniths in there. > It's just a demo. > > After seeing how much work this is I kinda feel bad about interfering > with the sales of The Locator. From what I've read here though that > book isn't easy to find unless you know who to ask so it may not really > make a difference at all. > > That aside, this is still a mammoth project to take on. The entries > are small and hard to read. Now consider the same tube numbers come up > over and over also and you can see why this is not fun. > > So, is this a worthy project or should I just let it go? If I keep > going it probably won't be done for years. > > I welcome all comments pro and con. I'd rather hear them now than > after I spend alot of time on this. > > Thanks. > Article: 321039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:33:00 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> a condensor is a capacitor. has nothing to do with the packaging. no issues with replacing with orange drops. just make sure to replace electrolitics with electrolitics and non with non. randy "Fred" wrote in message news:1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I'm rebuilding a receiver unit on my seeburg Jukebox and the parts list > calls out a number of "condensors" and provides capacitor values (e.g. > 5.0 mfd 300v condensor) for these items. Is this just a name for an > metal electrolytic can capacitor? Are there any issues with > replacement of these 'condensors' with equivalent value 'Orange Dip' or > axial electrolytic capacitors? > Article: 321040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: A note on eBay's Buyer Protection Program Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:34:17 -0600 Message-ID: References: <27MMe.3220$hF1.2103@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> ebay doesnt collect fees from buyers. its that simple. randy > Strange how eBay doesn't want to get involved then > makes rules to slow down any and all refund process > just to protect sellers. > > Asking Paypal or your credit card is plainly wrong as > they are only payment services. They have nothing to do with > the sellers. > > Looks like there is less and less protection for the buyers. > With such short delays and loops to jump in, all the seller has > to do is slow it down more until the 45 days has passed. > > That is just too easy. > > Syl > > Article: 321041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Big Project - Should I Keep Going? References: <1124305505.028139.102380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4CMMe.1516$ej5.1508@lakeread05> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:05:10 GMT The hard copies are so cheap it seems like a lot of work to scan them. Unless with the electronic version you could just type in the tube compliment and get a list of all the sets that use it. Ken wrote: > That's a great project, but a long one. I use my 5th edition regurally, > but it's a long process, good bedtime reading. I would love to see that > on line, but it's too much for one person to do. Any chance of having > other programmer types do some of it? Or make up an entry form that > dummies like myself could fill in, everyone takes a page. You could > email copies to volunteers. Ken > > dave@hurtle.com wrote: > >> I recently acquired a copy of the Mallory Radio Encyclopedia (6th ed). >> This book is particularly useful because it provides the tube >> complements for thousands of radios. >> >> I thought it was fairly obvious that this would be great info to have >> online to determine missing tubes or IDing radios by the tube set. >> >> I'm relatively sure this was the source used for the Larsen's Locator >> book because I don't know of any other source for the info without >> flipping through every page of the Rider's manuals. >> >> I started copying it into a database and what a chore it is! I did >> about six pages of over 500 and I was averaging 1 - 1.5 hours per page. >> There are 45 radio per page (average) so we're talking about 20,000 >> radios conservatively. >> >> If you want to see a sample of what I had in mind look here: >> http://www.hurtle.com/tube_complement >> >> The database just has the 6 pages I copied. That's everything up to >> Admiral so you won't find your beloved Philcos and Zeniths in there. >> It's just a demo. >> >> After seeing how much work this is I kinda feel bad about interfering >> with the sales of The Locator. From what I've read here though that >> book isn't easy to find unless you know who to ask so it may not really >> make a difference at all. >> >> That aside, this is still a mammoth project to take on. The entries >> are small and hard to read. Now consider the same tube numbers come up >> over and over also and you can see why this is not fun. >> >> So, is this a worthy project or should I just let it go? If I keep >> going it probably won't be done for years. >> >> I welcome all comments pro and con. I'd rather hear them now than >> after I spend alot of time on this. >> >> Thanks. >> > Article: 321042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:10:05 GMT Get a screw extractor set as mentioned from a home repair center or Sears. I would also let it heat up before actually trying to back it out, I think the heat will help. Ken wrote: > It's called an 'easy out'. It has a left hand course thread. Get the > correct size, drill a hole in the center of the tip, thread it in ccw. Ken > > Phil Nelson wrote: > >> Could you try to screw a backwards-threaded tap into the stub and then >> back it out? Seems like I've seen something like that at the hardware >> store. I suppose you'd want to drill a little starter hole first, >> maybe soak the joint with WD-40 as well. >> >> Phil Nelson >> >> > Article: 321043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Richard" Subject: Re: Can anyone possibly email me some tube data? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:18:50 +0100 Message-ID: <3mhnrsF16qpgvU1@individual.net> References: <3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net> <3mgrh9F1716spU1@individual.net> "Richard" wrote in message news:3mgrh9F1716spU1@individual.net... > > "Richard" wrote in message > news:3mgkslF16luqaU1@individual.net... > > Was advised that maybe this group is better, rather than > > rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors. > > > > Hi. Not sure if this will work, but I'm seeking valve data on LOCTAL tubes > > only. > > > > Anyone out there have a list of LOCTAL tubes made, along with their data? > > > > My email is: > > > > hobby_electronicsDELETE@ntlworld.com > > > > Of course, please remove"DELETE". > > Someone is looking around for a spare tube databook for me. IF he finds it, > I could well be fixed up. I'll let folks know what happens. > I got my tube book. So I'm fixed up. :c) Article: 321044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:26:42 GMT It's good to have a variety of meters at your disposal on the bench. Most of the old schematics have voltage reading that were taken with a VOM which loaded the circuit more than a VTVM or the average DMM which has a 10 or 11 meg input on DC. Also some resistance readings are better made with an old VOM as the DMM has a very low voltage source and is not a pure DC. Most old radio and tube electronics don't require extreme accuracy with regard to the test equipment used. Most resistors used were of the 20% variety and tubes circuits were designed to tolerate quite a range with self bias and AVC and other built in safeguards. It nice to have one good meter like a Fluke that you can keep the others calibrated to a level that would way better than anything a guy in the 40's would have had on his bench. Gary Tayman wrote: > I'll agree to some extent -- Tandy/Radio Shack certainly has a reputation > for making some incredibly cheap stuff, but sometimes they make a product > that really shines. > > My personal VOM is an ArcherKit -- doesn't have a model number but I'd bet > there's a Micronta that's the same thing. Seems the Microntas have a black > case and the kits are blue. In any case it has up to 50k ohms per volt. > I've had it around for many years. It certainly doesn't have the rugged > feel of the Simpson ot Triplett, but it's smaller and lighter. I've never > tried to calibrate or test for accuracy, but I've found it handy to have > around. When the VTVM gives me a reading I'm not sure of, or if the probe > falls off the wire from use (boy has that happened more than once) I pull > out the ol' Archer kit and use it until I can check/fix the VTVM > > I do have one bugaboo with this meter. The selector switch is a cheap wafer > type, and it easily gets dirty and makes erroneous readings. Sometimes I > find myself kicking it to get it working, and every so often I open it up to > clean the switch. The Simpson and Triplett meters are much better in this > respect. > > If I didn't have this meter, I'd consider a Simpson or Triplett -- but don't > need them because I've got this one. > > > Article: 321045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1124305505.028139.102380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Big Project - Should I Keep Going? Message-ID: <%_NMe.11759$32.10315@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:29:31 GMT wrote in message news:1124305505.028139.102380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > I started copying it into a database and what a chore it is! I did > about six pages of over 500 and I was averaging 1 - 1.5 hours per > page. > There are 45 radio per page (average) so we're talking about 20,000 > radios conservatively. > Would a scanner with OCR work? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_character_recognition http://froogle.google.com/froogle?hl=en&lr=&tab=wf&q=scanner+%2Bocr&btnG=Search+Froogle jim menning Article: 321046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <27MMe.3220$hF1.2103@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: A note on eBay's Buyer Protection Program Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:07:05 -0400 "xrongor" a opiné > ebay doesnt collect fees from buyers. its that simple. Wrong. Paypal is eBay. When a buyer uses Paypal, they collect a fair sum of money. Syl Article: 321047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:10:54 -0400 Where you a futuristic thinker? On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:59:31 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > >clfe wrote: >> Break out the latex gloves and collection flasks. Very >> interesting concept indeed. Now, if only we could get >> that to run our cars! > >I guess I was way ahead of my time when I had a bumper >sticker on my 55 Chevy pick up truck that read; >"Powered by piss." > >Jeff Article: 321048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:11:31 -0400 On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:24:21 -0400, Larry wrote: >"clfe" wrote in >news:AIIMe.30178$Tf5.16913@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net: > >> Given some types of urine are more potent than others > >I'm experimenting with some fine Boddington's English Ale in the lab this >afternoon. So far the LCD screen has gone out of focus, twice, the PH of >the product has increased 0.8 and the A/C compressor hasn't start up on its >own.....but more experimenting goes on.... hahaha....... Article: 321049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: A note on eBay's Buyer Protection Program Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:27:15 +0900 Message-ID: References: <27MMe.3220$hF1.2103@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> "Syl" wrote in message news:lyOMe.53419$tb4.1309328@weber.videotron.net... > "xrongor" a opiné > > > ebay doesnt collect fees from buyers. its that simple. > > Wrong. Paypal is eBay. When a buyer uses Paypal, they collect a fair sum of > money. > But they collect it from the seller, not the buyer. Article: 321050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <27MMe.3220$hF1.2103@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: A note on eBay's Buyer Protection Program Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:39:29 -0400 In the few instances I had problems as a buyer, I always initiate the complaint processes through BOTH eBay and PayPal well before the deadlines arrive. I explain to the seller that I am just protecting myself and not to take it personally. One seller promised numerous solutions, including a partial refund, blah blah and asked that I drop the complaints first. Needless to say I didn't, and he never came through with the promise refunds! Finally PayPal told me to return the item with proof of delivery, and they would refund my money. They did. I guess the moral is the system works, but you have to follow the rules, in the time frames allocated. Pete Article: 321051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: contact cleaner ?? References: <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <091Le.20077$084.403@attbi_s22> <42fe364a$0$16761$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:54:19 GMT Robert Sherrod wrote: > > > CalBubba wrote: > >> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: >> >>> In article <42fc228a$0$16752$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, >>> nobodyhere@fakeaddress.com says... >>> >>>> >>>>> Cyclo.... 11 oz can is 3 bucks.... I buy it by the case.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I haven't heard of Cyclo. What is this and where is it bought? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Bubba >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Bubba.... email my buddy that I get it from tell him that John k9uwa >>> sent U ... buy a case of the stuff ... otherwise the shipping will eat >>> you on it... dozen cans in a case... 36 bucks for the case plus >>> shipping.. get it from Kim Herron W8ZV >> >> >> >> Oh, boy: >> That's a 10-lifetime supply for me. >> >> But I like your concept that we need something cheap as a basic >> crud-flush. And from your reply, it sounds like you approve Cyclo for >> pots. Is that so? >> >> Regarding Deoxit: I'm under the impression that this isn't so much a >> contact cleaner as a preservative. Is that correct? >> >> Bubba > > > Bubba, > > DeoxIT is a contact cleaner/deoxidizer, for the most part. Caig's > ProGold is a conductivity enhancer/preservative for most plated contacts > and connections. Those include gold RCA jacks and connectors for HiFi, > video, etc. Caigs PreservIT is a preservative for everything > electrically related. > > Basically they are used in the order presented above, DeoxIT --> ProGold > --> PreservIT. > > For potentiometers that use a carbon plastic resistance element instead > of wire, use DeoxIT and then follow up with Caig's CaiKleen MCL. > CaiKleen MCL is improves the performance of the carbon pots and also > lubricates for protection and long term reliability. > > I just ordered from Caig a kit which includes spray cans of DeoxIT, > ProGold and CaiKleen MCL. It also includes a free ProGold pen > applicator, kind of like the paint pens you can get at craft stores. > > Later, > > Bobby Oops. It's CaiLube MCL not CaiKleen MCL. To think, it took me this long to realize my mistake. LOL. Later, Bobby Article: 321052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:35:17 -0500 xrongor wrote: > in any case, the resoslution of an analog meter is partially dependant on > the width of the needle itself and the eyes ability to ascertain unique > positions. Most high precision meters have pointers that are so thin as to *almost* vanish when viewed straight on; and both that and "unique positions" (parallax) are addressed by a wonderful new invention called a mirrored scale. Perhaps you should learn about them. > in other words, an analog meter is only as good as your eye. No, an analog meter is whatever precision it is - whether one is capable of availing one's self it's precision or not is irrelevant to the rest of it's users. sheesh. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: Cartridge for a Ristaucrat 2020 45 Phonograph Player Message-ID: References: <430300f6$0$16828$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:50:01 GMT Willie Bosco has a neat modern cartridge adapted to fit the RCA 45 changers. The Ristoaucrats I have seen have arms that look like the RCAs. If the mounting is the same, Willie's cartridges should be fine. Check the bottom of this page: http://www.recordplayersplus.com/45_players2.html Norm CalBubba wrotf: >Paragon Video & Stereo wrote: > >It's probably possible to use a substitute cartridge. Try Ed Saunders in >the Atlanta area. He's on eBay and has a huge inventory of piezo items. > >Bubba Article: 321054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford From: Larry References: <11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com> <430338c6$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <1124316688.933628.176520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:53:39 -0400 "frenchy" wrote in news:1124316688.933628.176520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > not made to watch > on your patio in the afternoon sun "porta" means you can lug it from one darkened dungeon to the next...(c; -- Larry Article: 321055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters From: Larry References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:59:56 -0400 "BFoelsch" wrote in news:9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com: > What is your considered opinion of the Triplett 630-A? > It's a better meter than the 260. They, too, have made sure you buy most of it if you want a new meter movement. It has more ranges and a bigger meter. We had a few 630s and even the electricians had trouble blowing them up past the fuse on Rx1 range. Towards the end of the shipyard, the little Fluke DVMs became popular and replaced them all in most hands. I did a little study of how much of your tax money we were wasting repairing them, documented it, and suggested we simply GIVE them to the users as their very own at $70 each. Anyone will take care of their OWN meter much better than they will the COMPANY'S meter. The yard closed before it could be shoved through the bureaucratic pipe. Giving the technicians something probably caused upset stomachs at the top of the heap. They love "control", you know. We were spending $250 to fix a $70 meter, which I, for one, found absurd.... 630's an ok meter....if the 260 is a Chevy, the 630 is a Pontiac. -- Larry Article: 321056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:22:28 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:vPPMe.22172$Rm3.14995@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > xrongor wrote: >> in any case, the resoslution of an analog meter is partially dependant on >> the width of the needle itself and the eyes ability to ascertain unique >> positions. > > Most high precision meters have pointers that are so thin as to *almost* > vanish when viewed straight on; and both that and "unique positions" > (parallax) are addressed by a wonderful new invention called a mirrored > scale. Perhaps you should learn about them. a properly calibrated digital meter has much better resolution than an analog meter. perhaps you should learn about them... >> in other words, an analog meter is only as good as your eye. > > No, an analog meter is whatever precision it is - whether one is capable > of availing one's self it's precision or not is irrelevant to the rest of > it's users. no, a properly calibrated digital meter has much better resolution than a properly calibrated analog meter. > > sheesh. you too can reach this prime demographic!! randy Article: 321057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford From: Larry References: <11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com> <430338c6$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <1124316688.933628.176520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:06:02 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in news:taOdnUBaWYKqTZ7eRVn-qA@comcast.com: > It > allowed many people who couldn't afford one the opportunity to own a > color TV. > Me included. At the time I was teaching electronics at Sumter TEC in Sumter, SC, for $7200/annum, a princely sum, indeed. Tec tried to hire all military retirees looking for a hobby. The guy that replaced me after 7 years was USAF retired master sgt. -- Larry Article: 321058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters From: Larry References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:08:39 -0400 John Stone wrote in news:BF293DE7.21EAA%jmsent2@comcast.net: > So would that make the Micronta's you like so much a Toyota? > > See? Geez, I don't like any of them, actually. But, Toyota, ok...(c; I never said I liked Micronta. I said they were very accurate for so little money. Someone mentioned how rugged the 260 was in its brittle Bakelite case. Obviously, they never worked in a nuclear shipyard...(c; I've seen them delivered for repair in a box, little pieces of smashed brittle Bakelite screwed to a broken circuit board...(c; -- Larry Article: 321059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters From: Larry References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:11:07 -0400 "xrongor" wrote in news:de0kc2$6u3s$1@news3.infoave.net: > you too can reach this prime demographic!! > I brought this little switching power supply to an old ham friend's shop. "Put a 20A load on it and watch the voltage sink.", I told him. As he added more and more load resistors smoking away from the strain, the voltage, of course, was rock steady. He kept feeling the top of the PS waiting for the flames to occur. It was a 30A supply and hardly got warm frying his load resistors. He's a convert, now.....(c; -- Larry Article: 321060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) Message-ID: References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:20:28 GMT > just make sure to replace >electrolitics with electrolitics and non with non. other than the obvious space/price considerations, is this important? I am thinking in the case of filter caps for a 1930-ish set with an 8 mfd tub capacitor. If replaced with 8 x1mfd mylars, would it make a difference to how the set played? My thought is that perhaps the mylars could outlive the lifespan of the itty bitty 8 Mfd electrolytic . I don't know if my theory holds water. Phil Article: 321061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:24:56 -0500 xrongor wrote: > a properly calibrated digital meter has much better resolution than an > analog meter. perhaps you should learn about them... Oh, I know a little about them... been certified cal tech on 'em since '76 back when they had Nixies or Numitrons for digits... bought my first direct from HP in '77 (which I still have). How long have you had yours? > no, a properly calibrated digital meter has much better resolution than a > properly calibrated analog meter. You keep saying that - but it's still (in strict terms) Bull Crap - as it entirely depends on the specific meters in question. A 3 1/2 OR 4 digit DVM (which are most common) won't hold a candle to a THACH - in resolution- and very few can match a THACH's accuracy (not to mention true RMS on ANY waveform below 15kc). At 100 volts- the (3/4 digit) digital has .1V resolution. The THACH is .02V. That's 5 times the resolution - and at .2% accuracy. How many of your digitals can even come close? > you too can reach this prime demographic!! Yeah, sure. You use a digital to align a radio (esp. the discriminator in an FM radio) and I'll use an analog - and we'll see who has the easiest/fastest time. In this case - high resolution nor absolute accuracy helps a bit. I.E. one should learn to use the proper tool for the job - rather than reaching for a hammer every time- just because it's a fancy hammer (which is why I keep an EICO 232 VTVM around - it is designed for / and has a zero center scale for doing FM discriminators and such). If you're happy with your digital hammer - fine. Just don't try and convince me they are the best tool for everything, everytime. Sheesh. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:37:52 -0400 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:kmn7g116asr0imi76vmetj18m9hfa6rab1@4ax.com... > > just make sure to replace > >electrolitics with electrolitics and non with non. > > other than the obvious space/price considerations, is this important? > > I am thinking in the case of filter caps for a 1930-ish set with an 8 > mfd tub capacitor. > > If replaced with 8 x1mfd mylars, would it make a difference to how > the set played? My thought is that perhaps the mylars could outlive > the lifespan of the itty bitty 8 Mfd electrolytic . I don't know if my > theory holds water. > > > > Phil > Absolutely. If you have the room, using mylars is the superior choice. The tradeoff is cost and size; but the mylars don't have aging issues regarding reforming, they won't "dry out", and thus they should never develop high ESRs. They are more effective as bypasses for RF frequencies--if that is an issue. Some are self-healing, and will recover from voltage breakdowns. Pete Article: 321063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:39:31 GMT Hello, I have completed the work on the chassis of my S-38. I replaced the caps, repaired bad solder joints from previous "repair" work, installed new dial cords, and even discovered that it was an end of production build. It has the components laid out on the chassis the same as an S-38A, but has the extra tube and BFO of the S-38 that it is. Even after all of this, I am having a problem that is quite annoying. It appears as if the band switch is causing an intermittent cutout. I have cleaned the band switch and checked the solder joints, but I am still having the problem. When the receiver cuts out, switching back and forth between bands or just giving the cabinet a little rap will resolve the issue, if only temporary. Has anyone ever had this problem? If so, can a fix be recommended? Later, Bobby Article: 321064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:59:21 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> i never did..... because they arent. never claimed they were. you're arguing with yourself.. randy > If you're happy with your digital hammer - fine. Just don't try and > convince me they are the best tool for everything, everytime. > > Sheesh. you too can reach this prime demographic!!! randy Article: 321065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:15:07 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:kmn7g116asr0imi76vmetj18m9hfa6rab1@4ax.com... >> just make sure to replace >>electrolitics with electrolitics and non with non. > > other than the obvious space/price considerations, is this important? no. in fact, other than price/space considerations, i dont think there is ANY good reason to use electrolytics... they leak and fail. maybe someone else has one...? randy Article: 321066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Building a web page Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:20:40 -0600 Message-ID: Okay...I guess the time has arrived. I'm going to try to build a web page to show off my collection and such. My ISP will let me have a 10MB of space to put one up for free and since they don't do binaries, I guess this is the route I'll have to take. BUT...I've never done this before...I'm web page building illerate. Does anyone know of any fool proof programs to do this with ?? I think I'll need al the help I can get on this one. Ben Article: 321067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:29:49 -0500 xrongor wrote: > i never did..... because they arent. never claimed they were. Really! Quote: "a properly calibrated digital meter has much better resolution than an analog meter. perhaps you should learn about them..." An erroneous claim you repeated again later in the same post... So much for "i never did..." That's the trouble with posting here - it's soo easy to check the archives... > you're arguing with yourself.. Might as well-- since you can't seem to remember what you said just three hours ago. moving along. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters From: Larry References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:35:02 -0400 "BFoelsch" wrote in news:VIWdnXT6DpJbaJ7eRVn-pA@giganews.com: > Wish mine still worked. I see one every now and again; one day I'll > buy one for the heck of it. > > Sounds just like the Microntas...Set it to 3VDC and it splits the 3V mark, dead in half. How do they do that and retail it for $10?! A Simpson 260 NEVER reads 3V dead on....it would have been some kind of miracle! -- Larry Article: 321069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:35:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:26:42 +0000, Lou deGonzague wrote: > It's good to have a variety of meters at your disposal on the bench. > Most of the old schematics have voltage reading that were taken with a > VOM which loaded the circuit more than a VTVM or the average DMM which > has a 10 or 11 meg input on DC. Also some resistance readings are better > made with an old VOM as the DMM has a very low voltage source and is not > a pure DC. Most old radio and tube electronics don't require extreme > accuracy with regard to the test equipment used. Most resistors used > were of the 20% variety and tubes circuits were designed to tolerate > quite a range with self bias and AVC and other built in safeguards. It > nice to have one good meter like a Fluke that you can keep the others > calibrated to a level that would way better than anything a guy in the > 40's would have had on his bench. > snip It is good to remember that a 20,000 ohm per volt meter on the 500V scale is 10M (20,000 X 500 = 10,000,000) the same as a cheap DMM. On a 550V scale (if you could find such a thing) it is 11M, the same as a VTVM. On any higher scale, the VOM is more sensitive than either the DMM or VTVM. To do better, you would have to get a higher quality DMM or VTVM with 100M input resistance. Of course, there is also that Simpson VOM at 100,000 ohms per volt. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 321070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters From: Larry References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:36:23 -0400 "DaveM" wrote in news:DLidnVHpZv5hfp7eRVn- gA@comcast.com: > Good for your friend. And this has what to do with opinions about the > Simpson 260 VOM?? > > ER, ah, it was a follow up thought to the dump the VOMs and get a DVM part of the thread from someone else. It was about hanging onto old technology in the face of something obviously much better. See?? -- Larry Article: 321071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 03:44:11 GMT GB and TerryJ, Thanks for the information. I have narrowed it down to the 12SA7 metal tube or its socket. I will swap out the tube first before messing with the socket. Thanks again, Bobby TerryJ wrote: > I have found similar problems by tapping lightly on components and > solder joints with a plastic screwdriver. In one case the problem was a > bad mica grid coupling capacitor in the oscillator. YMMV > "Robert Sherrod" wrote in message > news:nFRMe.35806$084.28675@attbi_s22... > >> Hello, >> >> I have completed the work on the chassis of my S-38. I replaced the >> caps, repaired bad solder joints from previous "repair" work, >> installed new dial cords, and even discovered that it was an end of >> production build. It has the components laid out on the chassis the >> same as an S-38A, but has the extra tube and BFO of the S-38 that it is. >> >> Even after all of this, I am having a problem that is quite annoying. >> It appears as if the band switch is causing an intermittent cutout. I >> have cleaned the band switch and checked the solder joints, but I am >> still having the problem. When the receiver cuts out, switching back >> and forth between bands or just giving the cabinet a little rap will >> resolve the issue, if only temporary. >> >> Has anyone ever had this problem? If so, can a fix be recommended? >> >> Later, >> >> Bobby > > Article: 321072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:30:43 -0700 Message-ID: <29379-430400E3-74@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: I've related my Simpson 260 tale a couple of times here before. Venerable old early 50's vintage, it served faithfully till 1983 and developed a recalcitrant sticking movement that could not be resolved. So i decided to treat myself to a brand new 260. Well, the main selector switch crapped out just out of warranty. Examination of the 260's innards revealed everything to be cheesy, cheap plastic indistinguishable from RS stuff. Pure junk. Rather that futz with trying to fix the thing, i tossed it in the trash. To the original poster (Tim), try to determine the age of your unit. Somewhere prior to 1983, the transition to junk occured. Bill(oc) Article: 321073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:43:59 -0700 Message-ID: <29381-430403FF-4@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: When the little Portacolors made it past their warranty, they were very likely to last an unusually long time. This was attributable to the narrow-deflection CRT which enabled the sweep circuits to run off low B+ (125V nominal), thus greatly extending tube life. This was also true of the little GE B&W all-compactron sets of the same vintage. Bill(oc) Article: 321074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:49:07 -0700 Message-ID: <29379-43040533-78@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: AAK. I think i had a senior moment. Seems like the Portacolor's B+ was more like 250V, while the little B&W sets' B+ was 125V. Been a lotta years. Subject: Re: Big Project - Should I Keep Going? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:08:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124305505.028139.102380@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:05:05 -0700, dave@hurtle.com wrote: > I recently acquired a copy of the Mallory Radio Encyclopedia (6th ed). > This book is particularly useful because it provides the tube > complements for thousands of radios. > > I thought it was fairly obvious that this would be great info to have > online to determine missing tubes or IDing radios by the tube set. > > I'm relatively sure this was the source used for the Larsen's Locator > book because I don't know of any other source for the info without > flipping through every page of the Rider's manuals. > > I started copying it into a database and what a chore it is! I did > about six pages of over 500 and I was averaging 1 - 1.5 hours per page. > There are 45 radio per page (average) so we're talking about 20,000 > radios conservatively. > > If you want to see a sample of what I had in mind look here: > http://www.hurtle.com/tube_complement > > The database just has the 6 pages I copied. That's everything up to > Admiral so you won't find your beloved Philcos and Zeniths in there. > It's just a demo. > > After seeing how much work this is I kinda feel bad about interfering > with the sales of The Locator. From what I've read here though that > book isn't easy to find unless you know who to ask so it may not really > make a difference at all. > > That aside, this is still a mammoth project to take on. The entries > are small and hard to read. Now consider the same tube numbers come up > over and over also and you can see why this is not fun. > > So, is this a worthy project or should I just let it go? If I keep > going it probably won't be done for years. > > I welcome all comments pro and con. I'd rather hear them now than > after I spend alot of time on this. > > Thanks. As everyone says, its a huge task. I do like what you've done however; it seems to work fine. I would add a note to the box where you enter the tube numbers to omit spaces after the commas. It took me a few minutes to figure that out. Ken's idea of sharing the work sounds good. Of course someone would still have to check it but that could be shared too. Arrange it so that the person who does the checking isn't the same one who did the data entry; that will minimize systematic mistakes. Doing it on your own is too big a task (unless you REALLY enjoy that kind of thing) unless you could automate it. Good luck. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 321076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:11:25 -0400 Trellix. No HTML to learn. Build a website in an evening. Syl Article: 321077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:16:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com> Larry wrote: > 630's an ok meter....if the 260 is a Chevy, the 630 is a Pontiac. > Speaking of which, has anyone else seen a Triplett like this? http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/ebayitems/P8170596.JPG http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/ebayitems/P8170597.JPG It's a Triplett 631, which is BOTH a VOM AND a VTVM (and entirely battery-operated to boot)! I picked it up at a flea market a couple of years ago, thinking it was a 630. Yes, that's a 1R5 tube to the left of the range selector switch. It uses a pair of now-unobtanium 22.5V batteries to power the VTVM. This is the only Triplett I've ever seen like this.....It couldn't have been very popular. Anyone know any more about it? -Scott Article: 321078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <27MMe.3220$hF1.2103@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: A note on eBay's Buyer Protection Program Message-ID: <1XTMe.58382$tb4.1490684@weber.videotron.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:14:48 -0400 "Brenda Ann" a corrigé > > Wrong. Paypal is eBay. When a buyer uses Paypal, they collect a fair sum > of > > money. > > > > But they collect it from the seller, not the buyer. Right, my mistake. Bidpay does. Syl From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Fri Aug 19 15:46:51 EDT 2005 Article: 321079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Caps worth saving? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:09:49 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11g85o8c8pdgmca@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-10!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321079 I have a junk box full of old capacitors. I need to sort them and clear out the box. What capacitors should I keep and what should I toss. For example I have: domino ceramic mustard orange drops blue drops chocolate drops paper and wax Thanks, David Article: 321080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 23:14:21 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:yfTMe.22618$Rm3.15402@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > xrongor wrote: >> i never did..... because they arent. never claimed they were. > > Really! Quote: > "a properly calibrated digital meter has much better resolution than an > analog meter. perhaps you should learn about them..." perhaps you should.... > An erroneous claim you repeated again later in the same post... So much > for "i never did..." That's the trouble with posting here - it's soo easy > to check the archives... you are so full of yourself... and you are a clever snipper. and i stand by what i said. sure you can find an analog meter that can beat a digital meter. in your lame example you compare top end analog meters to radio shack cheapie digitals. of course it depends on the meter. i never said otherwise. but the best digital meter is better for pure accuracy than the best analog meter. period. are there reasons to prefer analog meters over digital? of course there are. but you just like to make up what you think i said and reply to it. all the while trying to make yourself seem smart and clever and me stupid. so lets go back and leave things intact... YOU: "If you're happy with your digital hammer - fine. Just don't try and convince me they are the best tool for everything, everytime." ME: "i never did..... because they arent. never claimed they were." if you hadnt been so judicious with your snipping it would be clear what i said. after you get done with it its not even close. you are tacking my response to one thing you said onto something you said in another post and twisting my words. i hate people that do that.... > >> you're arguing with yourself.. > > Might as well-- since you can't seem to remember what you said just three > hours ago. > > moving along. please do... randy Article: 321081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:41:04 -0400 On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:11:25 -0400, "Syl" wrote: >Trellix. No HTML to learn. Build a website in an evening. > >Syl > But then of course, HTML is not real difficult to learn either. Article: 321082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:26:45 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Beerbarrel" wrote in message news:tp78g1tdmpi9dac9cc121vmia2lp74ts3c@4ax.com... > On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:11:25 -0400, "Syl" > wrote: > >>Trellix. No HTML to learn. Build a website in an evening. >> >>Syl >> > > > But then of course, HTML is not real difficult to learn either. for a site with just a few pics and a few links, just about any webpage building software should do fine. coding it by hand would be silly. here's a link to some editors you can try, some are free: http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3150-2048-0.html?tag=dir in fact, for a pure novice, just looking to slap up a few pics and a few links, i would get a free yahoo webpage and just use their webbuilder program. maybe your isp has something similiar. lastly, a trip to the library would easily net you a book or two that would get you started if you have plans for a grand website. randy Article: 321083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 05:22:36 -0400 On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:26:45 -0600, "xrongor" wrote: > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:tp78g1tdmpi9dac9cc121vmia2lp74ts3c@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:11:25 -0400, "Syl" >> wrote: >> >>>Trellix. No HTML to learn. Build a website in an evening. >>> >>>Syl >>> >> >> >> But then of course, HTML is not real difficult to learn either. > >for a site with just a few pics and a few links, just about any webpage >building software should do fine. coding it by hand would be silly. here's >a link to some editors you can try, some are free: >http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3150-2048-0.html?tag=dir It really would not be too silly. It would take no more than a few minutes to do. Phil has the right idea. Actually, it gives you quite a bit more editing flexability than those canned web sites do. Article: 321084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 04:48:42 -0700 Message-ID: <7323-4304759A-113@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: >From William: >There's one other good thing to say >about the PortaColor. It was the product >of a time in which American electronics >firms were actually innovative, GE in >particular. But one has to wonder though, if the Portacolor's spectacular longevity isn't just a fortuitous spinoff of designing the set around a low B+ value. I.e., the desigbers weren't shooting for longevity, it 'just happened'. Now GE's household lightbulbs are *definitely* designed for short life. :-) Bill(oc) Article: 321085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:37:06 GMT Robert Sherrod wrote: > Hello, > > I have completed the work on the chassis of my S-38. I replaced the > caps, repaired bad solder joints from previous "repair" work, > installed new dial cords, Sorry, can't address your specific question, but just a safety tip while you have the radio apart. The S-38 is basically an "All-American 5", with one side of the AC line connected to the chassis. Normally, most AA5s have a plastic cabinet and safety is not too much of a concern. However, the S-38 has a *metal* cabinet and the only thing between you and a very rude surprise is the direction the line cord is plugged in and the rubber insulating washers between the chassis and the cabinet. I suggest you replace, or at the least, verify the condition of these washers while you have the set on the bench...(the original washers typically tend to deteriorate with age). 73, Carter K8VT Article: 321086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:53:07 +0900 Message-ID: References: <7323-4304759A-113@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:7323-4304759A-113@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net... > From William: > > >There's one other good thing to say > >about the PortaColor. It was the product > >of a time in which American electronics > >firms were actually innovative, GE in > >particular. > > But one has to wonder though, if the Portacolor's spectacular longevity > isn't just a fortuitous spinoff of designing the set around a low B+ > value. I.e., the desigbers weren't shooting for longevity, it 'just > happened'. > With over 25 years as a consumer service tech, I have never been impressed with GE televisions. They were the only ones that didn't have a chroma reference oscillator, instead using the 3.58 crystal as a bandpass filter. Strange beasties, they were. Of course this was after they finally stopped buying RCA chassis (which just about everyone was doing for a long time). As far as AC only portables, I think the Zenith B/W sets were the best overall. Good brightness and contrast, excellent sensitivity and selectivity. Article: 321087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Duh! Make that TROY New York, near Albany.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:00:26 -0400 s'est plaint de > Sorry.... Fat fingers lately. > > Troy is near Albany. Any volunteers to go persuade a fellow to ship a > radio? Paid for this dog over 6 weeks ago. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6541618662 > > Terry. Have you read his feedbacks before bidding ? Syl Article: 321088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:41:55 -0700 Message-ID: <7324-43049023-19@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Brenda Ann: >I have never been impressed with GE >televisions. They were the only ones that >didn't have a chroma reference >oscillator, instead using the 3.58 crystal >as a bandpass filter. Strange beasties, >they were. Yeah, do you remember that really weird one with an NE-2 bulb as the burst keyer? We had one in with color sync all screwed up. The NE-2 was 'lighting up' normally, so it was discounted as a possible cause. Finally it was replaced as last resort, and that fixed the problem. Go figure Bill(oc) Article: 321089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford From: Larry References: <7323-4304759A-113@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:06:42 -0400 oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote in news:7323-4304759A- 113@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net: > Now GE's household lightbulbs are *definitely* designed for short life. >:-) > Look on the bulb. GE doesn't make bulbs any more. Some are Chinese, others are East European countries.... -- Larry Article: 321090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Northe Osbrink Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:19:58 GMT Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Larry wrote: > >> 630's an ok meter....if the 260 is a Chevy, the 630 is a Pontiac. >> > > Speaking of which, has anyone else seen a Triplett like this? > > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/ebayitems/P8170596.JPG > > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/ebayitems/P8170597.JPG > > It's a Triplett 631, which is BOTH a VOM AND a VTVM (and entirely > battery-operated to boot)! > > I picked it up at a flea market a couple of years ago, thinking it was a > 630. Yes, that's a 1R5 tube to the left of the range selector switch. It > uses a pair of now-unobtanium 22.5V batteries to power the VTVM. > > This is the only Triplett I've ever seen like this.....It couldn't have > been very popular. Anyone know any more about it? > > -Scott I do remember seeing those meters -- never had or used one, though. Regarding the batteries, are you aware of the conversion to the more-obtainable 22.5 V Eveready 412/Duracell M215 batteries at: http://www.triplett.com/631batconv_files/631batconv.htm You're supposed to be able to download a manual from: http://users.iglide.net/hworth/radio/test.html Northe N6KO Article: 321091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters From: Larry References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:23:08 -0400 Jim Mueller wrote in news:pan.2005.08.18.03.35.22.794641@nospam.com: > It is good to remember that a 20,000 ohm per volt meter on the 500V > scale is 10M (20,000 X 500 = 10,000,000) the same as a cheap DMM. On > a 550V scale (if you could find such a thing) it is 11M, the same as a > VTVM. On any higher scale, the VOM is more sensitive than either the > DMM or VTVM. To do better, you would have to get a higher quality DMM > or VTVM with 100M input resistance. Of course, there is also that > Simpson VOM at 100,000 ohms per volt. > > As you all are working on very high impedance tube circuitry, I'd like to point out that BOTH the DVM and the VOM have NO ISOLATION RESISTOR in the probe tip. So, when you touch either one of them to the high impedance oscillator grid, for instance, the RF travels up the probe, up your arm, up into the meter itself and may shunt off enough energy to stop the oscillator, or at least screw its operational characteristics up enough to make any readings mostly worthless, like grid leak bias voltage. The old VTVM solved this problem with the 1M resistor in the tip and 9M input impedance so it made a predictable voltage divider we could calibrate around. The HP410C, probably the finest VTVM made, has it. All the other VTVM DC probes I know of do, too. Today, you can recreate and even improve on this isolation resistor in your modern 10M input-Z DVMs. I have a special probe I built that looks like a regular DVM probe but with a voltage divider built into it. There is a 10M resistor in series with the tip of the probe inside the probe to isolate any signal trying to sneak down the probe wire to screw up the reading. Then, there is a 920K resistor across a double banana plug plugged into the meter in series with a 100K trimpot to calibrate it to divide exactly by 10. DVMs are very sensitive DC meters with lots of amplification, measuring in the 10mvdc region, so there's lots of range when the voltage is low. Just move the decimal point in your head and you've got an isolated Hi-Z probe and plenty of range. When the meter reads 50V, the circuit is at 500VDC. It's so Hi-Z it's even BETTER than the VTVM probe it replaces....no shunt capacitance, no body capacitance, no RF loading...(c; -- Larry Article: 321092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:00:40 GMT Hmmm . . . I'm waiting for a history lesson on the terminology -- such as, On April 7, 1949, Joseph P. Condenser filed a lawsuit against the EIA for using his name on electronic components without his permission . . . Any real clues as to when and why the name was changed? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Fred" wrote in message news:1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I'm rebuilding a receiver unit on my seeburg Jukebox and the parts list > calls out a number of "condensors" and provides capacitor values (e.g. > 5.0 mfd 300v condensor) for these items. Is this just a name for an > metal electrolytic can capacitor? Are there any issues with > replacement of these 'condensors' with equivalent value 'Orange Dip' or > axial electrolytic capacitors? > Article: 321093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford References: <7324-43049023-19@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:13:57 -0500 Bill Sheppard wrote: > Yeah, do you remember that really weird one with an NE-2 bulb as the > burst keyer? Oh, yeah. They were a pain - I finally came to the (probably wrong) conclusion that the neon was "keying" too easily - i.e. passing most everything... Sorta like the note keyers in many mid-life Conn organs - (mid-life: - half tube & half transistor). They too would sometimes key too easily - making for "hung notes"... I guess that was their attempt to make them truly like a pipe organ - hi! hi!... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:18:45 -0500 Gary Tayman wrote: > Hmmm . . . > > I'm waiting for a history lesson on the terminology -- such as, > > On April 7, 1949, Joseph P. Condenser filed a lawsuit against the EIA for > using his name on electronic components without his permission . . . > > Any real clues as to when and why the name was changed? Maybe manufacturers in the refrigeration business got tired of getting these huge aluminum finned things back because some clueless service guy read in the trouble shooting guide when the compressor wouldn't start right - to replace the condenser? I know - back to my corner... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1L1Ne.14073$xW.6810@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:26:22 -0500 Larry wrote: > Today, you can recreate and even improve on this isolation resistor in your > modern 10M input-Z DVMs. I have a special probe I built that looks like a > regular DVM probe but with a voltage divider built into it. There is a 10M > resistor in series with the tip of the probe inside the probe to isolate > any signal trying to sneak down the probe wire to screw up the reading. > Then, there is a 920K resistor across a double banana plug plugged into the > meter in series with a 100K trimpot to calibrate it to divide exactly by > 10. DVMs are very sensitive DC meters with lots of amplification, > measuring in the 10mvdc region, so there's lots of range when the voltage > is low. Just move the decimal point in your head and you've got an > isolated Hi-Z probe and plenty of range. When the meter reads 50V, the > circuit is at 500VDC. It's so Hi-Z it's even BETTER than the VTVM probe it > replaces....no shunt capacitance, no body capacitance, no RF loading...(c; Seems I recall in some old Navy tips booklet they had a probe assembly something like that - but it was intended for use with a scope - rather than VTVM/VOM... Same idea though. Seems like it was on the same page as the octopus; or right near it... Speaking of which - now there is one extremely useful (IMHO) accessory every scope should have... I've thought about sitting down and designing one that didn't need AC to operate (yeah, I know - few scopes don't need AC power as well - but I think an octopus would be handier and probably used more if it didn't have to be plugged in for power). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1124375807.505255.274040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Duh! Make that TROY New York, near Albany.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:02:54 -0400 a répondu > I usually do, should have, didn't really expect to win this set for > this price... surprised myself. Must've bid on impulse. I suspect the reason it went so cheap has a direct relation to his feedbacks. I made a habit of reading feedbacks,including the most recent positives and always look at other bidders from recent auctions. Tedious work but pays in the long run. I did catch a few shill bidders on auctions I was bidding on just by looking at previous sales... It may not be too late to contact eBay and Paypal, if you did use it. Good luck, Syl > > Got burned. > > Lesson learned. > > Terry. > > > Syl wrote: > > s'est plaint de > > > > > Sorry.... Fat fingers lately. > > > > > > Troy is near Albany. Any volunteers to go persuade a fellow to ship a > > > radio? Paid for this dog over 6 weeks ago. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6541618662 > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > Have you read his feedbacks before bidding ? > > > > Syl > Article: 321097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <43010635.4040205@nycap.rr.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a decent scan of Rider's Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:08:24 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:Ka9Me.8473$32.3562@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > Lou, the image quality from the Radio Data discs is far superior to > the other sets on the market. The scans print out better than some > of the pages in my original Riders books. But I have noticed a > serious limitation in the functionality of the Radio Data products, > which has caused me to not use them in favor of some of the other > versions. And that limitation has indeed kept me using my hard copy > books, rather than the discs. I've meant to contact them about the > problem I've had with their discs (Riders, Philco, Zenith, etc.), > but have been procrastinating. Now that I am reminded again, I will > follow through and contact them. Until I give them a fair chance to > address the issue, I don't want to identify the issue publicly. Let > me get in touch with them and see what they say, and I'll get back > to the group on this topic. > I promised to report back after hearing from the people over at Radio Data, so here I am. The limitation I mentioned previously with the discs was that the security settings used by Radio Data disabled the "snapshot tool" function of Adobe Acrobat. That meant that if you zoomed in on a small area of the scans to look at a specific part of the circuitry, you could not directly print just that enlarged area through Acrobat. The way the disc was set up, it only allowed you to print the full page you were looking at. If you wanted to print just the enlarged area, you were forced to save a screen shot, and process and print it through an auxiliary program such as MS Photo Editor. Not only is that time consuming and a lot of extra work, but you end up losing much of the resolution of the scans. I know from the number of times I've dealt with the small print on the Rider pages that enlargements in print form are a "must have" feature that any disc form of Rider's would need. Not everyone can have a computer next to their workbench to look at the enlargement on the display as they work, and many of us like to print a copy to "trace" our repair efforts on. My guess was that the security settings on the disc were to try to prevent unauthorized file sharing (theft) with others. I can't blame them for that, they put a lot of work into this project, and it's not fair for others to steal their work. They have produced a very nice set of scans for us, and they offer them at a very reasonable price. I emailed Radio Data, and received responses from both Dale and Roy there. They had a meeting to discuss this issue, and whether or not they were going to be able to remedy this situation. Roy reported back this morning with some great news. Roy told me that they have decided to include the snapshot tool on the next version of the Rider disc, version 2.0, which they will release this week. That fix will allow the direct printing of enlarged selected areas of any page on the disc. If the following paragraphs sound like a product endorsement, it is. Many people have asked me about the Radio Data set of scans, because they know I have bought so many different versions of Rider discs in the past looking for a good set that can actually replace the 23 volume set of books. Finally there is a set that may be able to accomplish this. Because of the great work Radio Data did to create these scans, and their excellent customer service, I feel it's only fair that I bring attention to them. After all, we too often hear about problems with suppliers to the hobby, but we never seem to give enough kudos to those who deserve them. I'd like to publicly thank the folks at Radio Data for this decision to improve the functionality of their discs. Through this recent contact and previous interaction with Radio Data last year, I can say they have been extremely willing to make sure their customers are kept happy. They also encourage any feedback that will help them in making their products better. With this improvement going into version 2.0 of the Rider discs, I now can recommend this set of Rider scans to everyone. The image quality is very impressive compared to any other set I have seen, and many of the scans are far more readable than the pages on many of my original sets of "paper" Riders. The restoration of the snapshot tool will allow this disc to perform all the tasks I would need in everyday use. This set is the only set I know of that can replace a paper set of Riders. And it takes up much less space, and is far easier to carry. No need to pay $500+ for a full set of books when this disc seemingly has it all. So for those of you who were disappointed with the BPS set, or who have been paying big bucks trying to complete their book set of the Rider radio manuals, contact Radio Data and see if their Rider version 2.0 meets your needs. And be sure to explore their web site for some useful tips and also some "free stuff". They have a nice set of scans of a Zenith manual there! www.oldradiodata.com jim menning Article: 321098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:07:48 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Beerbarrel" wrote in message news:jmk8g1diqrgg2aa4usvcra5s83t6v6gdde@4ax.com... > On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:26:45 -0600, "xrongor" > wrote: > >> >>"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >>news:tp78g1tdmpi9dac9cc121vmia2lp74ts3c@4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:11:25 -0400, "Syl" >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Trellix. No HTML to learn. Build a website in an evening. >>>> >>>>Syl >>>> >>> >>> >>> But then of course, HTML is not real difficult to learn either. >> >>for a site with just a few pics and a few links, just about any webpage >>building software should do fine. coding it by hand would be silly. >>here's >>a link to some editors you can try, some are free: >>http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3150-2048-0.html?tag=dir > > > It really would not be too silly. It would take no more than a few > minutes to do. Phil has the right idea. Actually, it gives you quite a > bit more editing flexability than those canned web sites do. you're arguing that a complete novice should start hand coding html? and they're gonna learn it in a few minutes? and feel so strongly about it you had to post just to say its not silly? whats up this week? is it my week for punishment? has everyone finally blocked steven and gotten bored? randy Article: 321099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) Message-ID: References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:33:33 GMT On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:03:18 -0400, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >those electrolytics will outlast most of us here... and, sadly, AM >broadcasting in general. So, go ahead and use them! Why spend big bux on >mylars for filtering, plus trying to wedge them in? > >Mark Oppat > > >" Uncle Peter" wrote in message >news:RDRMe.1334$sw6.1066@fed1read05... >> >> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message >> news:kmn7g116asr0imi76vmetj18m9hfa6rab1@4ax.com... >> > > just make sure to replace >> > >electrolitics with electrolitics and non with non. >> > >> > other than the obvious space/price considerations, is this important? >> > >> > I am thinking in the case of filter caps for a 1930-ish set with an 8 >> > mfd tub capacitor. >> > >> > If replaced with 8 x1mfd mylars, would it make a difference to how >> > the set played? My thought is that perhaps the mylars could outlive >> > the lifespan of the itty bitty 8 Mfd electrolytic . I don't know if my >> > theory holds water. >> > >> > >> > >> > Phil >> > >> >> Absolutely. If you have the room, using mylars is the superior choice. >> The tradeoff is cost and size; but the mylars don't have aging issues >> regarding reforming, they won't "dry out", and thus they should never >> develop high ESRs. They are more effective as bypasses for RF >> frequencies--if that is an issue. Some are self-healing, and will >> recover from voltage breakdowns. >> >> Pete >> >> >> > > Article: 321100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:02:57 GMT In article , rtsherrod@mchsi.com says... > > >Thanks for the information. I have narrowed it down to the 12SA7 metal >tube or its socket. I will swap out the tube first before messing with >the socket. >Bobby > Could also be that the voltages are a little low due to resistors of increased values well above the specs that are stopping the Osc >from Oscillating... 12sa7 converter/osc tube area... John k9uwa Article: 321101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Question on Seeburg WSR7-L6 Receiver Condensers References: <1124387737.749418.184690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:31:14 GMT fred.collins@gmail.com wrote: > The Seeburg WSR7-L6 Receiver has a number of Condensers (aka > Capacitors). > > C3 5.0 mfd. 300v Condenser > C5 .05 mfd. 200v Condender > C12 .005 mfd. 1000v Condender > > etc., > > Do these need to be replaced with Electolytic capacitors or can they be > replaced with axial lead or radial lead (orange drop) capacitors. The > parts list does not state that they are 'Electrolytics' and > specifically calls out Electrolytic capacitors ... > > C1 25 mfd. 50v Electrolytic > > Can I assume these Condensors are not Electrolytics? Yes. Note: The closet you'll find in current production values are 4.7, 0.047 and 0.0047 uF. Typically, these are close enough. Unless the original capacitors are being used for a frequency selective application. (Then you can add either a 0.27 or 0.33 (for the 5.0 example) to pad them up closer to the original value. Jeff > -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Duh! Make that TROY New York, near Albany.... References: <1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9l6Ne.19757$Hx4.15395@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:38:29 GMT I don't see a negative from you on this sale. tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > Sorry.... Fat fingers lately. > > Troy is near Albany. Any volunteers to go persuade a fellow to ship a > radio? Paid for this dog over 6 weeks ago. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6541618662 > > Terry. > Article: 321103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:06:26 -0400 On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:07:48 -0600, "xrongor" wrote: > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:jmk8g1diqrgg2aa4usvcra5s83t6v6gdde@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:26:45 -0600, "xrongor" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >>>news:tp78g1tdmpi9dac9cc121vmia2lp74ts3c@4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:11:25 -0400, "Syl" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Trellix. No HTML to learn. Build a website in an evening. >>>>> >>>>>Syl >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But then of course, HTML is not real difficult to learn either. >>> >>>for a site with just a few pics and a few links, just about any webpage >>>building software should do fine. coding it by hand would be silly. >>>here's >>>a link to some editors you can try, some are free: >>>http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3150-2048-0.html?tag=dir >> >> >> It really would not be too silly. It would take no more than a few >> minutes to do. Phil has the right idea. Actually, it gives you quite a >> bit more editing flexability than those canned web sites do. > >you're arguing that a complete novice should start hand coding html? and >they're gonna learn it in a few minutes? and feel so strongly about it you >had to post just to say its not silly? > >whats up this week? is it my week for punishment? has everyone finally >blocked steven and gotten bored? > >randy > Number one...I'm not arguing. I'm simply making a point. I can tell by your response that you haven't put too much time in learning html. In the amount of time that you could produce a site with one of those online services you can throw up a simple web site. It's very easy. It also offers you the ability to move your site to other hosts if you need too. Why are you getting so upset? You can't always be right. Have a good day. Article: 321104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1124375807.505255.274040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124387092.484419.302940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Duh! Make that TROY New York, near Albany.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:12:08 -0400 a répondu > I'd like to see about a thousand R.A.R+P.er's email this guy all at > once..... Let's get his attention. It will be analogous to a mob lynching which and I am totally against such behaviour, unless the person can or attend to do wrong to me. In this case, all I need to do is read the feedbacks and work from there, it's pretty obvious. Besides, I doubt it would change anything to your problem if 1000 people decided to flood him with potty mouth emails. I know of a few who would be more than happy to do so and jump in the bandwagon... To each his own I guess. Syl Article: 321105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:28:11 -0400 "xrongor" a répondu à un apparent retardé > you're arguing that a complete novice should start hand coding html? and > they're gonna learn it in a few minutes? and feel so strongly about it you > had to post just to say its not silly? I teach computer classes in high school and to adults. Coding HTML is far >from being simple. Unless all you want to do is simple text and non formatted images. Try to manage a multiple level, multiple cells table in raw HTML and try not to lose any tags in the process. Good luck. I find OpenOffice 1.1.3 has a good IDE for managing HTML and all MS formatted documents. And it is free. One can switch between HTML or a graphical IDE. But for a "newbie", Trellix is still the best anytime. Look who you are replying to Randy, that should explain a lot. Do yourself and everybody else, kill file him. Life's too short. Syl Article: 321106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Duh! Make that TROY New York, near Albany.... References: <1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:50:24 GMT Maybe you need to get in touch with Vinnie and see if he can take care of bidness for you... Ron tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > Sorry.... Fat fingers lately. > > Troy is near Albany. Any volunteers to go persuade a fellow to ship a > radio? Paid for this dog over 6 weeks ago. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6541618662 > > Terry. > Article: 321107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Duh! Make that TROY New York, near Albany.... Message-ID: <3K7Ne.1848$yb.4@trndny07> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:13:19 GMT In a situation like this, you have to wonder whether the guy actually has the item at all. Earlier today, I zapped yet another crook who "borrowed" pictures and text >from my website, and had a fish on the line for a thousand bucks. Ebay vaporized him out in a matter of hours. -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Sorry.... Fat fingers lately. > > Troy is near Albany. Any volunteers to go persuade a fellow to ship a > radio? Paid for this dog over 6 weeks ago. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6541618662 > > Terry. > Article: 321108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Phil B" writes: >If you have Microsoft Word, just create a document with all the bells, >whistles, pictures, links to files, etc. save it as html, and upload to >your server. Be sure to run it through the demoroniser if you do: http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/ -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:33:50 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Syl" wrote in message news:Q37Ne.7741$yN.79111@wagner.videotron.net... > "xrongor" a répondu à un apparent retardé > >> you're arguing that a complete novice should start hand coding html? and >> they're gonna learn it in a few minutes? and feel so strongly about it > you >> had to post just to say its not silly? > > I teach computer classes in high school and to adults. Coding HTML is far > from being simple. Unless all you want to do is simple text and non > formatted images. > > Try to manage a multiple level, multiple cells table in raw HTML and > try not to lose any tags in the process. Good luck. > > I find OpenOffice 1.1.3 has a good IDE for managing HTML and > all MS formatted documents. And it is free. One can switch between HTML > or a graphical IDE. But for a "newbie", Trellix is still the best anytime. > > Look who you are replying to Randy, that should explain a lot. > Do yourself and everybody else, kill file him. Life's too short. > > Syl ah who am i to talk anyway. ive been know to stir the pot meself been slinging mud on my garshop walls all week and its got me a bit cranky i guess. ah well. 2-3 more hours of mud, got a window to install, a little of this, a little of that, and a week of re-assembly and ill be happy as a clam in my new workspace by the end of the month! ive used openoffice for a while now. anyone who pays microsoft for their office software should check it out, its definitely worth a look. www.openoffice.org randy Article: 321110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:39:04 -0600 Message-ID: References: ps, just curious. is there something wrong with 1.1.4? or have you just not updated yet... i was still using 1.1.2 and missed 1.3 completely.. randy > I find OpenOffice 1.1.3 has a good IDE for managing HTML and > all MS formatted documents. And it is free. One can switch between HTML > or a graphical IDE. But for a "newbie", Trellix is still the best anytime. > > Look who you are replying to Randy, that should explain a lot. > Do yourself and everybody else, kill file him. Life's too short. > > Syl > > Article: 321111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:08:39 -0400 Larry wrote: >Someone mentioned how rugged the 260 was in its brittle Bakelite case. >Obviously, they never worked in a nuclear shipyard...(c; I've seen them >delivered for repair in a box, little pieces of smashed brittle Bakelite >screwed to a broken circuit board...(c; I agree completely. Rugged would be the very last work that I would use to describe them. Simple, straightforward, adequate, would be more like it, in my opinion. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9KudnQpLxN7iK57eRVn-2A@giganews.com> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 22:43:19 -0400 "BFoelsch" wrote: >Years ago (1965 era) I bought the most accurate VOM I ever owned, from >Lafayette Radio, Argonne brand. Silly thing was somewhat smaller than a >Simpson 260. Distinguishing feature was the 60 microampere meter movement. >Thing had ranges based on 1.6, 3, and 6. That was apparently planned, >because you could measure line voltage and the common battery and power >supply voltages near the top of the scale. That sounds very much like the Knight-Kit that a friend gave me years ago. Very odd ranges that just turn out to be useful. I have no idea how accurate mine is. When I need accuracy I use something else, but this one still works just fine (once I fixed a few things.) - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Remove snapped off soldering iron tip? Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:38:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1124249257.087777.167160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> On 16 Aug 2005 20:27:37 -0700 tim87529@gmail.com wrote: >A while ago my soldering iron was rendered useless because the tip >broke off so close to the base of the iron that I couldn't grip it with >pliers to remove it. > >To my knowledge, the tip has been in there for the last half century >and won't unscrew easily. Give us a hint about what this tip looks like. There are a LOT of different styles and that makes a big difference in what you need to do. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Emerson B131 questions. References: <1124403711.981419.74130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:48:50 GMT That's what I thought when I saw them. [click] "bought it now." Jeff AuroraOldRadios wrote: > That was great deal on those tube shields. > -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "sphipps" Subject: Re: GE Portacolor & Philco Ford Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:49:13 -0500 Message-ID: <11ga438lugeu8c0@corp.supernews.com> References: <11g5cu8qhl4v400@corp.supernews.com> Just posted a pic of it over on the binaries. Sure looks like an early Portacolor with those smoke tinted dial covers. Steve P. "Andy Cuffe" wrote in message news:arr6g11hrk2bva4vq02scabjs8p1m9fclr@4ax.com... > It certainly could be a Portacolor. I've never personally seen a > rebranded portacolor, but I've noticed several in Sam's photo facts. > It would be easy to tell by looking inside. Article: 321116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Phil B" writes: >Never had the problems this guy talks about. Maybe this stuff is fixed >in Office 2000, or maybe its because I have things like smart quotes >turned off. I still come across web pages like that. What’s worse is constantly getting e-mail that looks like this. Maybe next they’ll come up with a replacement for ’1’ – ’0’. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" References: Subject: Re: Philco #87 parts. Message-ID: <4g9Ne.631247$cg1.231824@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:57:52 GMT Well, if you have the patience to take it apart and check out the individual components, there's definitely some significant value there. The entire chassis is probably too heavy and bulky to interest most folks. Your likely customers are those who already have a pretty much complete set but need one or more parts to restore it to working condition. A few weeks ago I would have been one of them; ended up paying $22 + shipping (Playthings Of Past) for a "modern" replacement for the second audio transformer. The main parts of interest are, I think: Power transformer Filter chokes (2) Audio transformers (2) Speaker Volume control potentiometer Power switch Hum balancing potentiometer B voltage divider resistor The trick, of course, is finding who needs what and holding all those parts till buyers show up, typically over months or years. Maybe Gary B. Schneider (PTOP) or The Philco Guy or somebody with a similar business might be interested in the whole lot, but I don't mean to speak for them. If the speaker is good, it will probably bring a decent price by itself on Ebay. This isn't the sort of "find" that's going to put the kids through Harvard, but it ain't junk either. Be a shame to pitch it out in the trash. DD "GBrown" wrote in message news:L6adnaHPB5_pM57eRVn-ow@gwi.net... > > While digging thru the dark corner of the shop, I uncovered a Philco # 87. I > have just the chassis with a few parts and also the speaker. No knobs, no > tubes. Is there anything that someone mite need. I do have the escutcheon > with the screws that goes on the front of the cabinet. > > -- > Regards, > Gary...WZ1M > > > Article: 321118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:11:58 GMT Carter, Thanks for the info. This is my third "hot chassis" set I have worked on and I understand the situation completely. I have replaced the rubber insulators on the chassis. I have wired it so that the chassis is hot only when switched on. When swithced of it is neutral. I intend to get an isolation transformer in the near future to run it on. In regards to the problem, I swapped the 12SA7 tube with a good one out of another, working, radio and it is working fine now. I am going to check the solder joints on the pins and order a new one just in case. Thanks again, Bobby Carter-K8VT wrote: > Robert Sherrod wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have completed the work on the chassis of my S-38. I replaced the >> caps, repaired bad solder joints from previous "repair" work, >> installed new dial cords, > > > Sorry, can't address your specific question, but just a safety tip while > you have the radio apart. > > The S-38 is basically an "All-American 5", with one side of the AC line > connected to the chassis. Normally, most AA5s have a plastic cabinet and > safety is not too much of a concern. However, the S-38 has a *metal* > cabinet and the only thing between you and a very rude surprise is the > direction the line cord is plugged in and the rubber insulating washers > between the chassis and the cabinet. > > I suggest you replace, or at the least, verify the condition of these > washers while you have the set on the bench...(the original washers > typically tend to deteriorate with age). > > 73, > Carter K8VT Article: 321119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:35:28 GMT Go to Nonags WEBSITE, freeware and other assorted stuff. There is a program called IMS webdwarf by Virtual Mechanics Version 2 is out now. If you can't find the file or link, e-mail me and i will post the file so you can download it. "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:de0uq7$72vk$1@news3.infoave.net... > Okay...I guess the time has arrived. I'm going to try to build a web > page > to show off my collection and such. My ISP will let me have a 10MB of > space > to put one up for free and since they don't do binaries, I guess this is > the > route I'll have to take. BUT...I've never done this before...I'm web page > building illerate. Does anyone know of any fool proof programs to do this > with ?? I think I'll need al the help I can get on this one. > Ben > > Article: 321120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:33:43 -0400 "xrongor" a demandé > ps, just curious. is there something wrong with 1.1.4? or have you just > not updated yet... i was still using 1.1.2 and missed 1.3 completely.. School has 1.1.3. Over 75 PCs to update isn't in the schedule of the "man in charge" (not me). Besides, "I" would have to update all the teaching documents and _that_ is not in my schedule...;o) Syl Article: 321121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Building a web page References: Message-ID: <6Q9Ne.32351$rp.11628@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:37:55 -0500 Syl wrote: > Try to manage a multiple level, multiple cells table in raw HTML and > try not to lose any tags in the process. Good luck. I've been coding in HTML for nearly 10 years and these days I use some fairly powerful tools (GoLive is my main page tool - when your managing a site with 100+ pages and as many links... plus JAVA email handlers; and PHP form handlers... you need something like GoLive). However - there are times when I have to go in and hand tweak the HTML code to get something unusual to work - and it's STILL a PITA. I can't imagine a graphics gallery page as a "quick first project". Sure I built most of TenderTale by hand (and more recent maintenance using an early version of PageSpinner)... but since most of those pages are now indeed nearly 10 years old - they are becoming an embarrassment (and yes - I'm working on a full re-write). Talking about managing table tags... one of the recent ones I did had a picture - in which the subject was shaped something like an inverted L - and they wanted (real, not graphic) text nestled under the overhanging "foot" and next to the "leg". I did it with a table on absolute layers with a sliced graphic- and yeah - get a tag even slightly out of whack in those cells - and the graphic looks like a blender got a hold of it... Most of the time you can just anchor graphics and flow text around it... but there are those times - when there just isn't a way- and it's hand-code time. But like I said - even after all these years - I only hand-code when I just have no choice... Of course - a "simple" graphics gallery page(s) wouldn't need such- but still - there are "gotchas" in HTML that will drive -- even those of us who have worked with it for years -- to pulling out hair... esp. when you're trying to accommodate as many browsers as possible - and still keep down loading time. (I like *FAST* loading pages...) best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1124403711.981419.74130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Emerson B131 questions. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:42:05 -0400 "AuroraOldRadios" a noté > That was great deal on those tube shields. I was about to say that. Plus they are in great shape, not all rusty as they always seem to be. Syl Article: 321123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Syl" writes: >Over 75 PCs to update isn't in the schedule of the "man in charge" (not me). He doesn't keep the application on a remote file server? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Building a web page References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:56:09 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: > The resulting HTML is way more verbose than I like, but then I learned to > write HTML with Notepad back in the Stone Age. Notepad? Hah! I still write HTML is vi. Personally, I think _everyone_ should buy a book on basic HTML coding and read it. They don't HAVE to do it by hand, but it certainly makes it a lot easier to go in and look at it if there are any minor changes or problems to be able to know what you're looking at. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:56:10 GMT Hello, I have another question. Is the full 120 volts of AC supposed to pass through the "line bypass" capacitor? The one I am referring to would be C36 on the S-38 schematic and it is (now) a .22 mf orange drop. Originally it was a .25 mf wax paper. The capacitor connects between the main chassis and one of the switch brackets, which is physically isolated from the main chassis. I just checked with my volt meter and not only is the chassis "hot" switched on, but so is the radio cabinet. Thanks, Bobby Robert Sherrod wrote: > Carter, > > Thanks for the info. This is my third "hot chassis" set I have worked on > and I understand the situation completely. I have replaced the rubber > insulators on the chassis. I have wired it so that the chassis is hot > only when switched on. When swithced of it is neutral. I intend to get > an isolation transformer in the near future to run it on. > > In regards to the problem, I swapped the 12SA7 tube with a good one out > of another, working, radio and it is working fine now. I am going to > check the solder joints on the pins and order a new one just in case. > > Thanks again, > > Bobby > > Carter-K8VT wrote: > >> Robert Sherrod wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have completed the work on the chassis of my S-38. I replaced the >>> caps, repaired bad solder joints from previous "repair" work, >>> installed new dial cords, >> >> >> >> Sorry, can't address your specific question, but just a safety tip >> while you have the radio apart. >> >> The S-38 is basically an "All-American 5", with one side of the AC >> line connected to the chassis. Normally, most AA5s have a plastic >> cabinet and safety is not too much of a concern. However, the S-38 has >> a *metal* cabinet and the only thing between you and a very rude >> surprise is the direction the line cord is plugged in and the rubber >> insulating washers between the chassis and the cabinet. >> >> I suggest you replace, or at the least, verify the condition of these >> washers while you have the set on the bench...(the original washers >> typically tend to deteriorate with age). >> >> 73, >> Carter K8VT Article: 321126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124241312.679520.48820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:01:38 -0500 xrongor wrote: > so lets go back and leave things intact... > > YOU: "If you're happy with your digital hammer - fine. Just don't try and > convince me they are the best tool for everything, everytime." > > ME: "i never did..... because they arent. never claimed they were." > > if you hadnt been so judicious with your snipping it would be clear what i > said. after you get done with it its not even close. you are tacking my > response to one thing you said onto something you said in another post and > twisting my words. You're right. I was just trying to illustrate your insistence that digitals were better than analogs - and while well intentioned (I didn't mean to mis-represent what you said) I agree it wasn't a fair "quote", and I apologize for that. > i hate people that do that.... Your privilege. But then you go right on and do (virtually) the same thing yourself - claiming I was comparing a top-end analog meters with radio shack cheapies- twisting what I said. I don't think many people would agree that top end HP, Fluke, etc. 4 digit meters are the same as Radio Shack "cheapies" though I will admit- their resolution is no better (digit for digit)... Pot. Kettle. So be it. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Aug 19 15:47:03 EDT 2005 Article: 321127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 11 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:03:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1124413424 66.65.49.245 (Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:03:44 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:03:44 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321127 In article , clfe wrote: > Given some types of urine are more potent than others - like animal to human Hmm....what if you freeze it? Can it become cryo-treated audio-phoole-piss? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 321128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: brass and iron tuning wand ??? References: <7sbag1l11osbg54p9sbe53cbiho9pvous0@4ax.com> Message-ID: <8haNe.4730$UE2.1065@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:07:16 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > Just now reading up on the schematics on a G.E. A63 tombstone I'm > thinking about for my next project. There's a reference to a tuning > wand with one end containing iron particles, and the other end of > brass. They're aren't exactly an adjustment tool ()as far as being either a hex or slotted adjustment turning tool. The way they're used is you poke the end of the tool into a core and see if it helps. Iron will lower the tuning, and brass will raise it. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "clfe" writes: >Given some types of urine are more potent than others - There's gonna be some guy at the service station on a lot of steroids. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Building a web page References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:13:47 -0500 Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Notepad? Hah! I still write HTML is vi. If anyone here is 1) using a Macintosh and 2) is interested in a really outstanding, simple and very affordable HTML tool - take a look at PageSpinner. It's almost as much a teaching tool as an editor; has "wizards" for most tags, etc. slick program. Wish there was a PC version (I am going to look for that program Syl mentioned - sounds similar). If you meet #1 above but are looking for a *super* HTML / PHP / Pearl / CSS editor - and willing to spend a c note - BBEdit is a hum-dinger. Again - wish there was a PC version of that. GoLive is ok - but it's weak in PHP, JAVA and Pearl integration (comparatively, IMHO). And I'm doing more and more PHP lately... Someone mentioned page validators - I fed one of mine to one (not online - one on my computer) and it went ballistic - seems it was upset by the fact there were three complete HTML pages on that page. (PHP "serves" which part of the page is appropriate - i.e. it's a form - with validity checks, error re-entry and acknowledgment "pages"). Sometimes you just have to *know* what you're doing... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:15:57 -0400 On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:28:11 -0400, "Syl" wrote: >"xrongor" a répondu à un apparent retardé > >> you're arguing that a complete novice should start hand coding html? and >> they're gonna learn it in a few minutes? and feel so strongly about it >you >> had to post just to say its not silly? > >I teach computer classes in high school and to adults. Coding HTML is far >from being simple. Unless all you want to do is simple text and non >formatted images. > >Try to manage a multiple level, multiple cells table in raw HTML and >try not to lose any tags in the process. Good luck. > >I find OpenOffice 1.1.3 has a good IDE for managing HTML and >all MS formatted documents. And it is free. One can switch between HTML >or a graphical IDE. But for a "newbie", Trellix is still the best anytime. > >Look who you are replying to Randy, that should explain a lot. >Do yourself and everybody else, kill file him. Life's too short. > >Syl > I guess it is just simple for some folks then. It's a far cry from programming thats is for sure. I though you had given up on this group Syl? Dont have enough traffic on that forum of yours? I wonder why? You need to get you butt out of attack mode every once and awhile. You make yourself look like the ass that you are. Article: 321132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: A new way to power your old radios References: Message-ID: <%naNe.32911$rp.22868@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:16:13 -0500 Stephanie Weil wrote: > Hmm....what if you freeze it? Can it become cryo-treated > audio-phoole-piss? Aw geez - what a vision that brings up - micro-wave activate "your" battery?... never mind... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:20:48 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: brass and iron tuning wand ??? References: <7sbag1l11osbg54p9sbe53cbiho9pvous0@4ax.com> <8haNe.4730$UE2.1065@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <67acf$430533f2$4232bd29$15469@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Blacksmith wrote: > >> Just now reading up on the schematics on a G.E. A63 tombstone I'm >> thinking about for my next project. There's a reference to a tuning >> wand with one end containing iron particles, and the other end of >> brass. > > > They're aren't exactly an adjustment tool ()as far as being either > a hex or slotted adjustment turning tool. > > The way they're used is you poke the end of the tool into a core > and see if it helps. Iron will lower the tuning, and brass will > raise it. > > Jeff > > Its a functional gadget but so few radios have convenient openings to make this test its really not all that helpful. I suppose in its day when the radio was almost new it could be assumed that the trimmers hadn't been piddled with or things had drifted yet. Nowadays all it will do is reconfirm that the radio needs alignment. -Bill Article: 321134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:31:27 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: Message-ID: <65844$43053672$4232bd29$16804@COQUI.NET> Robert Sherrod wrote: > Hello, > > I have another question. Is the full 120 volts of AC supposed to pass > through the "line bypass" capacitor? The one I am referring to would be > C36 on the S-38 schematic and it is (now) a .22 mf orange drop. > Originally it was a .25 mf wax paper. The capacitor connects between the > main chassis and one of the switch brackets, which is physically > isolated from the main chassis. > > I just checked with my volt meter and not only is the chassis "hot" > switched on, but so is the radio cabinet. > > Thanks, > > Bobby Look at the cap passing AC just like you look at a resistor passing DC. If you draw enough current (ie enough loading, ie low resistance) the voltage will drop towards zero. If you use a high impedance voltmeter to make the measurements you're referring to there's no loading hence the high voltage measurement. Take an old cheap VOM that loads that circuit and you will see something entirely different. A point which is often overlooked. Somewhere in the annals of UL or some consumer safety people it has been said to use no larger than .015 as a line bypass. This number is derived from the minimum current that may cause heart defibrillation (or is it fibrillation?) in the case of electrical shock. An .015 apparently has enough AC resistance to limit the current below this amount. Clearly there are other parameters like skin resistance and whether or not you are standing in the bathtub but its something to consider. The downside of adhering to that approach is that many older radios become unstable with bypass caps that small. -Bill Article: 321135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:51:21 -0400 "Tim Mullen" a demandé > >Over 75 PCs to update isn't in the schedule of the "man in charge" (not me). > > He doesn't keep the application on a remote file server? The day you work in a school environment, you won't ask that type of question anymore. What seems simple to you and me is quite different for whoever is in charge of the network support in such environment. Everything needs to be controled, documented and the necessity of such work proven. Even if softwares are "free", they must be registered at the school board "copyrights management dept" for obvious reasons. So...if 1.1.3 fits the needs and 1.1.4 doesn't bring enough "benefits", then leave it as is. Plus, I am not the only teacher over there, we'd all have to agree about the update...A public school is not a company, many more "management levels" to work with... Syl Article: 321136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Emerson B131 questions. References: <1124403711.981419.74130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:57:52 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: > On a slightly different topic, who can recommend a good silvery-color paint > (not too shiny) that will *stick* to such things? The goat shields on my > Midwest console were crusty, so I de-corroded them, washed with lacquer > thinner, and sprayed on some aluminum colored paint from the local Big Box > store. Seemed great until I pulled a tube a couple of weeks later and > discovered sticky paint coming off on my fingertips. I restripped all of the > shields and decided to live with the dull results. Paint it the wrong thing to use. I'm not sure if it's still available, (EPA regulations and all that) but I used to have a kit for tin plating PC boards. Obviously, if you've properly prepared the metal shields, you can replate them and then they will have that nice "new" look to them again. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: 45 RPM Jukebox Adapter References: <0padnZOrO_xEhGPfRVn-uA@giganews.com> <2dwLe.8543$Rm3.5946@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <882dnSxjJovo2WLfRVn-3Q@giganews.com> Message-ID: <6abNe.15570$xW.13910@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:09:39 -0400 Ken Doyle wrote: > "Bruce Mercer" wrote: > >>What they are talking about turns a 7" 45 rpm into a 10" diameter so >>the records would sit in the holders. >>Right? > > > Right. You can see the blue ring kit installed on a AMI model B at the > wonderful pinballrebel site: > http://www.pinballrebel.com/archive/ami/b/b.htm > > Ken D. > > They made similar rings to allow 3" CD's to be played in older CD players. Not needed anymore because all current cd players have dual wells. Might be needed for car players that "suck in" the cd's but I have a feeling that the rings might snap off and get stuck in the player. Article: 321138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43054495.F91FB96A@aol.com> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Duh! Make that TROY New York, near Albany.... References: <1124368441.002715.62400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:31:50 -0400 Hmmm Terry, Maybe my email to him woke him up as he does not want to get another negative since I questioned him on his feedback and I was afraid to buy >from him as he has other items for sale.... ;-) Regards, Sal tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > Got an email from the seller this evening, he claims the radio was > returned to him and he is shipping it again, and refunding some of my > shipping. We'll see. All this after about 3 weeks of no responses to my > emails. > > I don't post negative feedback until I have no other choice. > > Terry. Article: 321139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Emerson B131 questions. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124403711.981419.74130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:37:13 GMT In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz says... > > > >Ideas? > >Phil Nelson > > Well if you must paint them.... the local Big Box also has Stainless Steel Paint ..... Rustoleum product... also comes a lot closer to matching the galvanized/silver sort of chassis that are rusty and you have to do something with them.... much better than Tennessee Chrome! by the way .... that guy put up another auction for another dozen goat shields.... I bought them... John k9uwa Article: 321140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: <65844$43053672$4232bd29$16804@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:42:47 GMT -ex- wrote: > Robert Sherrod wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have another question. Is the full 120 volts of AC supposed to >> pass through the "line bypass" capacitor? The one I am referring to >> would be C36 on the S-38 schematic and it is (now) a .22 mf orange >> drop. Originally it was a .25 mf wax paper. The capacitor connects >> between the main chassis and one of the switch brackets, which is >> physically isolated from the main chassis. >> >> I just checked with my volt meter and not only is the chassis "hot" >> switched on, but so is the radio cabinet. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bobby > > > Look at the cap passing AC just like you look at a resistor passing > DC. If you draw enough current (ie enough loading, ie low resistance) > the voltage will drop towards zero. If you use a high impedance > voltmeter to make the measurements you're referring to there's no > loading hence the high voltage measurement. Take an old cheap VOM > that loads that circuit and you will see something entirely > different. You may not have a cheap VOM so...do what we did when testing for stray neutral-earth current at dairy farms: Take your hi-Z VOM or DVM and clip a 500 ohm resistor across the meter leads--presto--an instant "cheap" (lo-Z) meter that will tell you how "stiff" the voltage is that you are measuring. > > A point which is often overlooked. Somewhere in the annals of UL or > some consumer safety people it has been said to use no larger than > .015 as a line bypass. Correct--.22 is awfully large from a leakage viewpoint, .01 is quite typical. This number is derived from the minimum > current that may cause heart defibrillation (or is it fibrillation?) ventricular fibrillation > in the case of electrical shock. An .015 apparently has enough AC > resistance to limit the current below this amount. Clearly there are > other parameters like skin resistance and whether or not you are > standing in the bathtub but its something to consider. > > The downside of adhering to that approach is that many older radios > become unstable with bypass caps that small. True... ...but if the original design called for a .25, I guess that brings us back to the rubber washers again... ;-) Ultimately, your idea to use an isolation transformer is a wise one. Good luck, Carter K8VT Article: 321141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." From: Wayne Boatwright References: Message-ID: Date: 19 Aug 2005 04:48:24 +0200 On Thu 18 Aug 2005 07:14:47p, David wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > But the photo shows a record on the turntable.. > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1940s-Antique-RCA-Victor-Phonograph-Radio_W0Q > QitemZ6552989226QQcategoryZ38030QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I don't think that actually looks like a record. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four, unless there are three other people. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0533-3, 08/17/2005 Tested on: 8/18/2005 7:42:52 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Article: 321142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Syl" writes: >"Tim Mullen" a demandé >> >Over 75 PCs to update isn't in the schedule of the "man in charge" (not >me). >> >> He doesn't keep the application on a remote file server? >The day you work in a school environment, you won't ask that type of >question anymore. School's don't believe in the client/server model? >So...if 1.1.3 fits the needs and 1.1.4 doesn't bring enough "benefits", I'm with you there. I don't "upgrade" unless there's a really, really good reason to do so. You never know what new problems might get dragged in the door. And one reason that is NOT a really, really good reason is some new feature that you don't need and won't use. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: <65844$43053672$4232bd29$16804@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:04:02 GMT Carter, I have a Craftsman DVM that I don't know what the impedance rating is. It is not listed in the owners manual. I do have a vintage Micronta FET VOM with 10K ohm/volt impedance on the AC/V scale. I need to get a screwdriver that has a small enough shank to fit in the screw holes to get inside and replace the C cell for the FET circuit. The shank on my interchangeable bit driver is too large. I am curious as to why they would set the value so high on the bypass cap, when other radios of the time had smaller values. As long as that cap is connected, there will be 120 Volts on the case. But then again, the schematic does say that the "ground" side of the cap is to "CASE". When I have the funds to spare, an isolation transformer I will buy. I don't want to put my health (life) insurance to "good" use. I am only 24 and don't want to spend time in the hospital. Thanks again, Bobby Carter-K8VT wrote: > -ex- wrote: > >> Robert Sherrod wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have another question. Is the full 120 volts of AC supposed to >>> pass through the "line bypass" capacitor? The one I am referring to >>> would be C36 on the S-38 schematic and it is (now) a .22 mf orange >>> drop. Originally it was a .25 mf wax paper. The capacitor connects >>> between the main chassis and one of the switch brackets, which is >>> physically isolated from the main chassis. >>> >>> I just checked with my volt meter and not only is the chassis "hot" >>> switched on, but so is the radio cabinet. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bobby >> >> >> >> Look at the cap passing AC just like you look at a resistor passing >> DC. If you draw enough current (ie enough loading, ie low resistance) >> the voltage will drop towards zero. If you use a high impedance >> voltmeter to make the measurements you're referring to there's no >> loading hence the high voltage measurement. Take an old cheap VOM >> that loads that circuit and you will see something entirely >> different. > > > You may not have a cheap VOM so...do what we did when testing for stray > neutral-earth current at dairy farms: Take your hi-Z VOM or DVM and clip > a 500 ohm resistor across the meter leads--presto--an instant "cheap" > (lo-Z) meter that will tell you how "stiff" the voltage is that you are > measuring. > >> >> A point which is often overlooked. Somewhere in the annals of UL or >> some consumer safety people it has been said to use no larger than >> .015 as a line bypass. > > > Correct--.22 is awfully large from a leakage viewpoint, .01 is quite > typical. > > This number is derived from the minimum > >> current that may cause heart defibrillation (or is it fibrillation?) > > > ventricular fibrillation > >> in the case of electrical shock. An .015 apparently has enough AC >> resistance to limit the current below this amount. Clearly there are >> other parameters like skin resistance and whether or not you are >> standing in the bathtub but its something to consider. >> >> The downside of adhering to that approach is that many older radios >> become unstable with bypass caps that small. > > > True... > > ....but if the original design called for a .25, I guess that brings us > back to the rubber washers again... ;-) > > Ultimately, your idea to use an isolation transformer is a wise one. > > Good luck, > Carter K8VT > Article: 321144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:04:48 +0900 Message-ID: References: "David" wrote in message news:x86dnSoIt5UF3ZjeRVn-sg@adelphia.com... > But the photo shows a record on the turntable.. > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1940s-Antique-RCA-Victor-Phonograph-Radio_W0QQitemZ6552989226QQcategoryZ38030QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem That's just the platter.. Article: 321145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <7sbag1l11osbg54p9sbe53cbiho9pvous0@4ax.com> Subject: Re: brass and iron tuning wand ??? Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:19:48 -0500 Message-ID: <430555b4_4@news1.prserv.net> General Cement---pardon me--- GC Electronics #8278 if you can still find anyone selling GC stuff. Also included in their Master Radio and TV Alignment Tool Kit. -- Crazy George The attglobal.net address is a SPAM trap. Please change that part to: attbiz properly formatted. "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:7sbag1l11osbg54p9sbe53cbiho9pvous0@4ax.com... > Just now reading up on the schematics on a G.E. A63 tombstone I'm > thinking about for my next project. There's a reference to a tuning > wand with one end containing iron particles, and the other end of > brass. > > Are these available yet? Are they necessary or useful? > Are they easy to make? > > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 321146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:41:03 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: <65844$43053672$4232bd29$16804@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Robert Sherrod wrote: > I am curious as to why they would set the value so high on the bypass > cap, when other radios of the time had smaller values. As long as that > cap is connected, there will be 120 Volts on the case. But then again, > the schematic does say that the "ground" side of the cap is to "CASE". The point I had hoped to make with my post is that you may well read 120 volts even with a smaller bypass cap when reading with a sensitive meter. Its not to say there is or isn't 120 volts present - its a function of the measurement technique. The important thing is the current limiting aspect if you grab across the two with your hand. A smaller cap will limit that current and if you were to take a reading with your hand from the chassis/case to something grounded (and getting a jolt) you'll notice 1) that is isnt the same as grabbing the wires to an electrical outlet and 2) you'll no longer read 120 volts because your hand will act as 'load' an voltage will drop thru the cap. In the old days having a hot chassis was "acceptable" - mostly because they figured that people would have a hard time getting their body between chassis and ground. Having the entire cabinet 'hot' (the rubber washer issue) is something totally different. -Bill Article: 321147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I finally accquired a Zenith! References: <1123974572.904302.276100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 04:31:08 GMT Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > Hope you get your N-731 set working. It's working well on AM now. The audio is very low on FM however, and thumping the cabinet results in NO audio at all. Sigh.... It all seems to be centered around either the 12DT8 RF amp/converter tube socket, or I have the dreaded silver mica disease in the 10.7 IF can. Of course, BOTH the socket and 1/2 of the IF can are buried under a soldered on shield. Any takers out there for a Zenith project to waste a few hours on? Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 02:04:34 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Brag Page Message-ID: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> I finally gathered up my recent homebrew project photos and put them on a single webpage to show off. You can see it here. Yeah, I'm kinda proud...this is a great hobby. http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/homebrew.html -Bill M Article: 321149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:08:56 -0600 Message-ID: References: >>> >Over 75 PCs to update isn't in the schedule of the "man in charge" (not >>me). >>> >>> He doesn't keep the application on a remote file server? > >>The day you work in a school environment, you won't ask that type of >>question anymore. > > School's don't believe in the client/server model? rofl. syl is right on the head. you just have to see it to believe it. if you ever do contract computer for schools, get used to hearing 'im sorry, but this is the way we have to do it', packing up your gear, and waiting a month for a phone call. its such a flurry of red tape its amazing. randy Article: 321150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Simpson 260 voltmeters Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:57:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124231419.602466.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > I'll agree to some extent -- Tandy/Radio Shack certainly has a reputation > for making some incredibly cheap stuff, but sometimes they make a product > that really shines. > > My personal VOM is an ArcherKit -- doesn't have a model number but I'd bet > there's a Micronta that's the same thing. Seems the Microntas have a black > case and the kits are blue. In any case it has up to 50k ohms per volt. > I've had it around for many years. It certainly doesn't have the rugged > feel of the Simpson ot Triplett, but it's smaller and lighter. I've never > tried to calibrate or test for accuracy, but I've found it handy to have > around. When the VTVM gives me a reading I'm not sure of, or if the probe > falls off the wire from use (boy has that happened more than once) I pull > out the ol' Archer kit and use it until I can check/fix the VTVM > > I do have one bugaboo with this meter. The selector switch is a cheap wafer > type, and it easily gets dirty and makes erroneous readings. Sometimes I > find myself kicking it to get it working, and every so often I open it up to > clean the switch. The Simpson and Triplett meters are much better in this > respect. > > If I didn't have this meter, I'd consider a Simpson or Triplett -- but don't > need them because I've got this one. > > > I believe the factory-assembled version of that meter is the Micronta 26-204C, one of the greatest cheap meters ever. I have two of them, the oldest one being over twenty years old. I like them for their mirrored scale and the range doubler switch that you can flip to take a make a voltage reading at the low end of the scale go to the high end of the scale (excellent for use in radio alignment). I smoked a 45.5 ohm resistor in one about 5 years ago and set it aside because I couldn't find the odd valued resistor anywhere......This thread encouraged me to finally fix it last night, which I did by taking a 39 ohm resistor and custom-mating it with a 6.8 ohm resistor from my parts bin that actually measured 6.5 ohms. Voila! working meter. The accuracy as compared to my 2 fluke DMMs is outstanding, with every reading in Ohms or Volts right on the money. Not bad for a cheap ($24.95) meter that hasn't exactly been treated with the utmost in kindness. -Scott Article: 321151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:21:30 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Brag Page References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> <1124435417.266674.127760@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Jim Strickland wrote: > -ex- wrote: > >>I finally gathered up my recent homebrew project photos and put them on >>a single webpage to show off. You can see it here. Yeah, I'm kinda >>proud...this is a great hobby. >> >>http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/homebrew.html >> >>-Bill M > > > Wow. Are these cases home made, or made from other radios? Your > homebrew stuff is gorgeous. > > -Jim > Thank yew! Mostly homemade cases. -Bill Article: 321152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Brag Page References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 07:59:30 GMT -ex- wrote: > I finally gathered up my recent homebrew project photos Heh, I see you have "issues" with black panels. Nice work exray. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: Brag Page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:32:06 -0400 Message-ID: <11gbd98cputm079@corp.supernews.com> References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> WOW, Bill.... You should be getting a grant, even more so than me. Many people get less done all year at their job. You really are an impossible catagory of person to define- the Radiomaster Cracker Slacker how about :) ? Congrats, it's great to know you. John H. Article: 321154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Brag Page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 05:10:55 -0600 Message-ID: References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> Great stuff !!!!!!!! "-ex-" wrote in message news:8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET... > I finally gathered up my recent homebrew project photos and put them on > a single webpage to show off. You can see it here. Yeah, I'm kinda > proud...this is a great hobby. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/homebrew.html > > -Bill M Article: 321155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38 problem.. References: <65844$43053672$4232bd29$16804@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:20:49 GMT -ex- wrote: > > The point I had hoped to make with my post is that you may well read > 120 volts even with a smaller bypass cap when reading with a > sensitive meter. Its not to say there is or isn't 120 volts present > - its a function of the measurement technique. > > The important thing is the current limiting aspect if you grab across > the two with your hand. A smaller cap will limit that current and > if you were to take a reading with your hand from the chassis/case to > something grounded (and getting a jolt) you'll notice 1) that is > isnt the same as grabbing the wires to an electrical outlet and 2) > you'll no longer read 120 volts because your hand will act as 'load' > an voltage will drop thru the cap. Time to talk some actual numbers... At issue is something called "capacitive reactance" or the equivalent AC resistance. The original .25 uF capacitor is roughly equivalent to a 10,000 ohm resistor (*at 60 Hz*). At 120 volts, this will give a current flow of 12 ma. (.012 amps) On the other hand, a .01 uF capacitor has a capacitive reactance of 256,000 ohms at 60 Hz. With the same 120 volt line voltage, this would give a current flow of .00045 amps. Thus, as Bill points out, the smaller cap will indeed limit the current. Robert Sherrod wrote: > When I have the funds to spare, an isolation transformer I will buy. For what it's worth...a single transformer sold as an "isolation" transformer is quite expensive. If you don't mind the bulk of two transformers, an old trick is to put *two* transformers back to back. Typically 6 or 12 v filament transformers or 24 volt door bell transformers. The only consideration is the current capacity... 73, Carter K8VT Article: 321156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: MAc Subject: Re: Brag Page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:28:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> great!!!!!!! sp9mrn Article: 321157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mr Fed UP" References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Brag Page Message-ID: <8qjNe.36586$rp.16180@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:29:48 -0500 Geeeee very nice. I am an OM and hard to impress but that's gooood. BTW did you buy/refurbish any old power dams to get all them to work at the same time? hi Now to find someone qualified to give an insurance quote eh. 73 K4TWO "-ex-" wrote in message news:8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET... >I finally gathered up my recent homebrew project photos and put them on a >single webpage to show off. You can see it here. Yeah, I'm kinda >proud...this is a great hobby. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/homebrew.html > > -Bill M Article: 321158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:06:42 -0400 "xrongor" a répondu > rofl. syl is right on the head. you just have to see it to believe it. > > if you ever do contract computer for schools, get used to hearing 'im sorry, > but this is the way we have to do it', packing up your gear, and waiting a > month for a phone call. its such a flurry of red tape its amazing. > > randy -hehe, I see you have had experience in the public school system...8o) Syl Article: 321159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1124294340.457392.248060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio shelf dilemma solved Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:15:33 GMT wrote in message news:1124294340.457392.248060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >I bit the bullet yesterday. Went to Home Depot, bought 4 more shelf > standards and 28 shelf brackets. Took down all the radios, all the > shelves, and moved the whole works to the opposite wall which DOES have > the studs 16" O.C. > > They flattened out right away and look great. Now I just need to patch > up the original wall and repaint. > > Damn the builder.... he probably saved $6 by putting the studs 24" > O.C..... > > Terry. > FWIW - my basement was finished with 2 x 2's placed 24" on center. It doesn't make it very easy to hang things. I also found that there are horizontal blocks in the wall even with the chair rail. I found that out while trying to fish cable to a new jack. I cut a home for the box, but just couldn't fish anything down to it. I poke my cell phone camera into the hole and snapped a pic, which showed me the blockage. The house was built in 1955, and I believe the basement was finished in the early 1970's. This wallpaper is part of the giveaway: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/house/aas and lest we forget the wonderful 1970's paneling: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/house/aav -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 321160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert McLean" References: <7sbag1l11osbg54p9sbe53cbiho9pvous0@4ax.com> <430555b4_4@news1.prserv.net> Subject: Re: brass and iron tuning wand ??? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:11:34 -0400 Electrosonic in Toronto, http://www.e-sonic.com, sells GC tools and kits. "Crazy George" wrote in message news:430555b4_4@news1.prserv.net... > General Cement---pardon me--- GC Electronics #8278 if you can still find > anyone selling GC stuff. Also included in > their Master Radio and TV Alignment Tool Kit. > > -- > Crazy George > The attglobal.net address is a SPAM trap. Please change that part to: > attbiz properly formatted. > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:7sbag1l11osbg54p9sbe53cbiho9pvous0@4ax.com... >> Just now reading up on the schematics on a G.E. A63 tombstone I'm >> thinking about for my next project. There's a reference to a tuning >> wand with one end containing iron particles, and the other end of >> brass. >> >> Are these available yet? Are they necessary or useful? >> Are they easy to make? >> >> >> .... >> Blacksmith >> >> >> >> ... >> Radio Literature on disc. >> 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. >> 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. >> Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. >> Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. >> Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. >> Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook >> -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- > > Article: 321161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Radio shelf dilemma solved References: <1124294340.457392.248060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:00:41 GMT Jon wrote: > FWIW - my basement was finished with 2 x 2's placed 24" on center. It > doesn't make it very easy to hang things. I also found that there are > horizontal blocks in the wall even with the chair rail. I found that out > while trying to fish cable to a new jack. I cut a home for the box, but just > couldn't fish anything down to it. I poke my cell phone camera into the hole > and snapped a pic, which showed me the blockage. That means your house was built to code. That blockage is called a fire stop and is required between every stud in the wall. Speaking of pulling cables, I just finished pulling about 3 miles of network and phone cables in a newly acquired office space for a customer. What a nightmare. In addition to the fire stops in the walls, there was also fiberglass insulation. Additionally, just to make my life complete, running cables horizontally to put the ends underneath windows. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" Subject: Bill Turner? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:28:08 GMT Hi; can someone remind me of Bills e-mail address? I know it is dialcover at something but I can't remember the rest. THANKS, DON -- Check out my web site at: www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm Article: 321163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Message-ID: <9tnbg11iglcal2oqmfpnitlnvnc0jb50go@4ax.com> References: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:33:47 -0400 On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:28:08 GMT, "radionutz" wrote: >Hi; >can someone remind me of Bills e-mail address? I know it is dialcover at >something but I can't remember the rest. > >THANKS, DON Try this Don.... dialcover@webtv.net Tracy Article: 321164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:37:04 -0400 On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:28:08 GMT, "radionutz" wrote: >Hi; >can someone remind me of Bills e-mail address? I know it is dialcover at >something but I can't remember the rest. > >THANKS, DON BTW, He is having some health issues right now so I don't know if he will respond to email at this time. Article: 321165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124310489.299856.236430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Question on capacitor terminology (Condenser) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:52:56 GMT > > Maybe manufacturers in the refrigeration business got tired of getting > these huge aluminum finned things back because some clueless service guy > read in the trouble shooting guide when the compressor wouldn't start > right - to replace the condenser? > > I know - back to my corner... > -- > randy guttery That's not so far fetched. As a former (emphasis on the word former) product specialist for Canon copiers, I recall one of the earlier models, an NP-125, had documentation that specified the rear cooling fan as a "refrigerator." Sorta makes me wonder what the word "condenser" means in Japanese. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 321166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: I finally accquired a Zenith! Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:03:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3mm74vF1747afU2@individual.net> References: <1123974572.904302.276100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: >> Hope you get your N-731 set working. > > It's working well on AM now. The audio is very low on FM > however, and thumping the cabinet results in NO audio at > all. Sigh.... > > It all seems to be centered around either the 12DT8 RF > amp/converter tube socket, or I have the dreaded silver > mica disease in the 10.7 IF can. > > Of course, BOTH the socket and 1/2 of the IF can are > buried under a soldered on shield. > > Any takers out there for a Zenith project to waste a few > hours on? > > Jeff > yes, what do you want for it? c-i-k-o-v-i-c a-t c-l-u-e-s-t-i-c-k-.-o-r-g -- The Shadow Knows Article: 321167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Message-ID: <03mNe.113959$5N3.7895@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:31:24 GMT What is the latest update on Bill? Is he home? Is he well? etc. Paul. Article: 321168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: <94mNe.7434$Wi6.5988@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:32:37 GMT Ben, I read your message, then started into the follow-ups which seem to have turned into a flame war. So -- my response is, I'll tell you how I personally got started: First off, when I first tried this, I didn't know what a website really was. Sure, I could surf the internet, but what is a website, where is it stored, and how do I get it there? So -- for all of the newbies who are too embarrassed to ask, a website is simply a page of text, not unlike a Word document, that others can read by locating the proper address. Once you've typed up your page of text, you copy (upload) the page to the file folder your ISP has provided for you. Of couse the page of text is a website in its simplest form. You can also upload photos or other files, and incorporate them into your page. You can also add links to other pages of your, or to other websites -- in any fashion you prefer. Now -- I started by looking for free software that would get me started. This was years ago, but it seems every one of them had you writing HTML code, trying to convince you that this is easy to do. Sorry, but I'm sure very few people speak the HTML language, and use some sort of WYSIWYG software to make their pages. So I went to a nearby store, and bought a copy of Claris Home Page. This was a very simple program, but it got me going -- in fact a few of my pages are still in the original Claris form. I later found that Microsoft Word can be used to write HTML pages. I also found that Word has a lot more code in it than Claris, and that pages edited in Word can no longer be read by Claris. Word is also limited, and buggy -- sometimes a photo just won't show, or won't center, or other things. The better choice, and what I use today, is Microsoft Front Page. This is not the only "good" program out there, but it's one that certainly does a good job. Now -- once you have your pages ready to go, it's time to upload. Claris didn't work all that well, and I've never tried it with Front page. Instead I use WS-FTP which used to be free, and maybe still is if you find the right version. WS-FTP is nice and easy. You set up your ISP information once, and from there on out it's as easy as clicking on the icon. You get two boxes -- one is the folder where you keep the pages on your hard drive, the other is the folder your ISP provides. To upload, just copy from one folder to the other! To download for whatever reason, just copy in reverse. To delete, just delete. To upload an updated page, copy as usual, and it will ask if you want to replace the existing copy -- click yes. Now -- although I have a fair amount of work into my website, there are a few things I always keep in mind: First, don't get super-fancy with frames and such. If you like doing special things, fine -- but it's not needed. Second, KISS -- keep it simple stupid. If you upload a lot of graphics and other effects, the page will be slow to load, and may not work properly with every web browser that someone may be using. Remember, not everybody uses Netscape, and some people still use dial-up. Third, don't go overboard with fonts. For 99% of what's on my website, I use either Arial or Times New Roman. These are standard fonts that are found on every computer, which means my website will look correct with everyone. My "Tayman Electrical" logo looks good with a font called Neon Lights in italics -- so I added it to a photo of my Thunderbird, saved it as an image, and posted the image on the site -- so those without neon lights on their hard drives will still see it correctly. Enough for now -- I can continue, but it will fill a book. About the only other comment is that some ISP's have a website system where you can edit the site online -- just add text and pictures. I have this through Sams Club -- and the advantage for me is that it is set up for online shopping. So I have also set up a site with products for sale. My complete website has pages I've written in Front Page (plus some old material in Claris), and also some pages on the Sams Club server -- with links back and forth to both. To check if you're interested, look at the home page, and the various pages for conversion, history, clocks, etc. Then -- click on the "don't cut that dash" link, which takes you to the Sam's Club section which has online shopping. Yes, this is a commercial website, but I'm not expecting to attract customers here -- I'm mentioning this to invite you to look at how it's done. The URL is shown below: -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:de0uq7$72vk$1@news3.infoave.net... > Okay...I guess the time has arrived. I'm going to try to build a web > page > to show off my collection and such. My ISP will let me have a 10MB of > space > to put one up for free and since they don't do binaries, I guess this is > the > route I'll have to take. BUT...I've never done this before...I'm web page > building illerate. Does anyone know of any fool proof programs to do this > with ?? I think I'll need al the help I can get on this one. > Ben > > Article: 321169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Brag Page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> <11gbd98cputm079@corp.supernews.com> In <11gbd98cputm079@corp.supernews.com> "John Hagman" writes: > WOW, Bill.... >You should be getting a grant Right? I'd vote for a MacArthur. Bill, you're a one-man old-tyme radio factory! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: How 2 Check Electrolytic References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:50:21 GMT Sprague Telohmic Capacitor tester. The TO-6 for example. They show up on eBay periodically in the $100-150 range. Jeff Gary Tayman wrote: > About the best capacitor checker I've seen is the Eico 950B > Capacitance-Resistance Bridge. Maybe some of those $40,000 lab pieces can > do something the Eico won't, but in the consumer market I don't know of > anything that does a better job -- if there is, someone please tell me. > > "Marty" wrote in message > news:DqWdnWSmueOHX5jeRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > >>What is the best way to check an electrolytic capacitor? -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I finally accquired a Zenith! References: <1123974572.904302.276100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3mm74vF1747afU2@individual.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:51:11 GMT Radio Rambler wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> >>Any takers out there for a Zenith project to waste a few >>hours on? > > yes, what do you want for it? I've sent you email about this. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." References: <%jlNe.8419$WD.2828@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:52:54 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > You must admit it's a lot more honest than that DSL spray . . . *snickers* That was WiFi Speed Spray. I was in touch with the seller and acquired the secret formula for it. I now have it gracing MY shop and office here. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:07:08 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Unexpected parts in GE A-63 References: Message-ID: <231d9$4305f5a0$4232bd22$2752@COQUI.NET> Blacksmith wrote: > > Any idea what value cap it might be, and why is it not referred to in > either the wiring diagram or the schematic? Or is it NOT a cap? > > The cathode terminal also has a 1500 mmfd cap going to the plate of > the 6C5 and a resistor going to ground. THIS RESISTOR is a 3500 ohm > resistor according to the paint on it, but the schematic calls for a > 120 ohm resister there. > > What the heck? What should I do about the extra wire coming from the > cap block? I can replace the 2 electrolytics, but I can't leave the > wire coming from the cathode just hanging there. > .... > Blacksmith Sounds like a mod to the 6C5 stage. Going up to 3500 ohms would likely demand a bypass cap where 120 ohms would not. Usually when I find these undocumented mods I put it back like the schematic says unless there's an obvious error involved. If you want to leave it as found go with about 4uf on the 6C5 cathode. -Bill Article: 321174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Radio shelf dilemma solved Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124294340.457392.248060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1124455095.588153.203250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In <1124455095.588153.203250@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> tschw10117@aol.com writes: >Gotta love that wallpaper. And I like the paneling, at least the knotty >pine on the botttom... but the mismatched stuff on top? >What were they thinking? Every generation seems to come up with some idea that will live on in infamy. Something that's been going on for far too long in cities is exposed-brick walls, i.e. unfinished walls, as a selling point. Thankfully the concept seems to have stopped short of exposed mud floors. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Unexpected parts in GE A-63 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:04:58 -0600 Message-ID: <12182-4305F51A-313@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Their are 3 capacitors in the box . Just measure voltage on all of them to cut down on confusion . Article: 321176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:02:24 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Flexible resistor question References: Message-ID: <81bb4$43060292$4232bd22$15597@COQUI.NET> Blacksmith wrote: > This GE uses a flexible type resistor which has burned out in the > center. What should I replace it with? It's a wirewound, so does the > replacement have to be a wirewound? > > I have a bunch of those glass type wirewounds, but probably not the > value I need. In case I don't, can I just use a carbon resistor? > .... > Blacksmith Wattage will depend which resistor it is. The parts list in Rider's shows two. 150 ohms at 3/8 watt and 450 ohms at 1 watt. Doesn't need to be wirewound. -Bill Article: 321177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: How 2 Check Electrolytic References: <1124466267.511194.138770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:16:50 -0500 nesesu wrote: > Gary, does the EICO have a "Power Factor" nulling knob as well? I'm not Gary, but yes - the 950B has a power factor control. As Jeff noted - there are several variations capacitors testers - the 950B is a nice basic unit that covers the basics very well -- plus does resistance and inductance as well - though you need a set of external "standard" inductors for the latter. Others such as the Heath, Telohmic, PACO, etc. have various features - and some use different indicators (a meter vs. eye tube, for instance) - but they all do about the same job. BUT!!! just because it's "test equipment" don't overlook the possibility that it need recapping just as a similar vintage radio. I recently recapped a PACO for a friend - it had bumble bees all over it! There is also a feature these types of testers have that a lot of people overlook - they can *very* quickly match components... Hook a resistor, capacitor, whatever to the "Comparator Prototype or Standard" terminals. Set the pointer to the 1 on the ratio scale - and then "poke" candidates to the measurement terminals (keep your fingers off the leads). It's then easy to watch the eye - and the closest match (the one that opens the eye the widest) - becomes obvious. Not often needed - but if you're trying to closely match components for a ladder network (filter or such) - it's real handy! best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:26:08 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124449297.640268.108540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> i suspect its not too terribly long now before some kid is going to ask you 'what the hell is clockwise?' randy > It's just a guess, but I wouldn't be surprized if that IS a record on > the turntable and the seller cannot identify what a record is. We're > in a time where many have never seen a record and couldn't tell one > from a frizbee. Oh, they probably don't know what that is, either. No > offense. > > Old rule if you're in doubt, don't buy it. Those sets in particular > bid higher and there's no telling if the cartridge will need replacing. > They usually do. > > GB > > David wrote: >> The platters on those are gold to match the tone arm. If you use >> photoshop >> or paint shop pro and enlarge and lighten the picture a bit, you can see >> the >> white label of a record and the lead in and lead out area of the record >> and >> the gray area where the grooves are.. >> >> "Brenda Ann" wrote in message >> news:de3i5q$t1u$1@news2.kornet.net... >> > >> > "David" wrote in message >> > news:x86dnSoIt5UF3ZjeRVn-sg@adelphia.com... >> >> But the photo shows a record on the turntable.. >> >> >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1940s-Antique-RCA-Victor-Phonograph-Radio_W0QQitemZ6552989226QQcategoryZ38030QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > >> > That's just the platter.. >> > >> > > Article: 321179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FA: Vintage 1950s Jensen Duplex Speaker References: <1124418909.861407.239270@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124468299.767058.84820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:50:41 GMT Our resident knuckle dragging welfare assisted moron wrote: > If you have tired of this poster some, maybe you know better > than I about how to point it out so they would listen. And you're problem with this is? They observed the requested FA: in the header. And a speaker of that vintage is fairly well within the charter of this news group. It's not like they were pushing 8-track tapes. All things considered, they post a considerably smaller amount of random crap than you do. Funny that you should complain about people messing up this news group being as how you're the one that has made it his personal pissing spot for the past 2 years. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Brag Page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:44:50 -0700 Message-ID: <4637-43060C82-289@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> Exray: One word. Awesome. Bill(oc) Article: 321181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I finally accquired a Zenith! References: <1123974572.904302.276100@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3mm74vF1747afU2@individual.net> <1124470159.406387.117900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6boNe.3641$HR5.2135@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:56:34 GMT Our resident knuckle dragging welfare assisted moron wrote: > I was hoping that you weren't going to quit, Jeff, > as I was hoping to use your results on mine. I didn't quit. I did a basic run through to properly describe what condition the radio is in and then offered it to someone who wanted it more than I did. > BTW way, I know...I lurk therefore I spam. yeah sure. Later. Nope, you can lurk all you want. It's when you hit SEND that you annoy everyone. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124449297.640268.108540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "xrongor" writes: >i suspect its not too terribly long now before some kid is going to ask you >'what the hell is clockwise?' Tell 'em it's the way sundials progress in the northern hemisphere. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Brag Page Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:27:52 -0600 Message-ID: References: <8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET> you better get all that stuff back to the museum before they find out who stole it very nice. randy "-ex-" wrote in message news:8a32d$43057675$4232bd1d$17412@COQUI.NET... >I finally gathered up my recent homebrew project photos and put them on a >single webpage to show off. You can see it here. Yeah, I'm kinda >proud...this is a great hobby. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/homebrew.html > > -Bill M Article: 321184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FA: Vintage 1950s Jensen Duplex Speaker References: <1124418909.861407.239270@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124468299.767058.84820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124472591.802435.190090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 17:59:15 GMT Our resident knuckle dragging welfare assisted moron wrote: > [ nothing of any importance, as usual. ] Yap yap yap.... You're like one of those small annoying little dogs that dance around in a circle waiting for a chance for their bladders to spring a leak. Posting through google.com via lycos.com now eh? That's the matter, won't servinet.com let you post anymore? Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Lens for a Telechron clock References: <1124471345.468764.292820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:49:23 -0400