Article: 322545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:50:32 GMT "Jim King" <62-gt-hawk@comcast.net> wrote in message news:b4Wdnfr1J8i3h7reRVn-qA@comcast.com... > Jim, I got the other image of the 6322 on my webpage. > http://www.msnusers.com/JimsWebPhotos > > Jim King Thanks Jim, you've made me a believer. jim menning Article: 322546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" Subject: 1/2 D cell 1.5 ? Message-ID: <%eHVe.559$5n4.301@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:10:19 GMT Last weekend at the Mena swapfest I bought a military transistor testet Model TT-22 made by Abbey Electronics, L.I. NY in 1968. It uses four Eveready Alkaline 1/2 D cells N0. E94 1.5 volts. I've never seen or heard of these runts before I got this thing. Google isn't much help. Any tips or help appreciated. -- 73 Hank WD5JFR Article: 322547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Who makes good A,B, & C power supples? Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:32:56 +0200 Message-ID: <0e81bc37518ed779795bd73e7d59ac2d@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> I've seen these universal supplies many times, but can't seem to find them today. These are the ones that power the old battery radios from the 20's. Any recommendations out there? I haven't the time to build one and would prefer to have a reliable model. Tnx. Pete O, AI2V Article: 322548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:55:53 GMT In article , philsvintageradiosREMOVE@shaw.ca says... > > >Is it worth doing this? John mentions buying them from his local >friend gary from SV Products. I wouldn't mind buying some, but maybe >this is the cheap/ quick way to go. > > >Phil > > > I talked to Gary today about making up the transformers... the outside box is the same as he is already making to sell into the Ham Radio market... 9 to 1 transformer ... waterproof as it is all potted.. F connector OR BNC fittings your choice... $25 ... the inside box would be the same.. but not potted... and or could have more than one output at 600 ohms depending on the purchasers wishes... $20 for one of these.. again either F connector or BNC.. probably best is to use the F connector as they are easy to install onto your coax cables... As for making these things up.... yes jump right on it if you want to... as to making them up from Cable TV Products... good luck... they might work sort of... but anything designed to operate at 1 Ghz isn't going to work right at 1/2 Mhz up to 30 Mhz... Email me if anyone wants a set of these gizmo's and will put you in touch with Gary KD9SV .. John k9uwa Article: 322549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Who makes good A,B, & C power supples? References: <0e81bc37518ed779795bd73e7d59ac2d@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:38:46 GMT Antique Electronics Supply sells a little power supply kit that I know a lot of folks use. It has everything you need for a 20s battery set. Ron Pete_O wrote: > I've seen these universal supplies many times, but can't seem to find them > today. These are the ones that power the old battery radios from the > 20's. Any recommendations out there? I haven't the time to build one and > would prefer to have a reliable model. Tnx. Pete O, AI2V > Article: 322550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: <32iei1l3vk82t0523qlnvl0gv0gr00hlcv@4ax.com> References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:18:15 GMT in an attempt to put the clues together to answer my own question about the number of turns...: - "Reflections can be avoided by coupling through a transformer whose turns ratio is the square root of the impedance ratio." - we know the cable is 75 ohms. - I can assume 600 to 800 ohms for the antenna ...does length of the wire affect this much? the radio expects this. ok this is why they sometimes mention adjusting the antenna trimmer after connecting the antenna I guess. - my Un-Un transformers need to be around 9 to 1 ratio... - A low "turns count" is a good indicator the correct core size and core material is being used." hmm.. so the core size is another factor, perhaps this complicates the calculation of the correct number of turns? I wanted to figure out how they ended up suggesting 30 turns to 10 turns. - lower mu will mean more turns and the coil will approach more of a narrow resonant circuit than a wider flat one. - my interprotation - the "MU" ,which is a property of the ferrite material will affect the number of turns needed.. so perhaps this is why it is better to buy the made up ones, rather than to build them using TV ones.. John, do I have all the information above to arrive at this in a calculation? I wondered how this can be measured, one of the difficulties it seems is trying to figure out if it is working optimally. if one had a meter that measures signal strength, Perhaps swapping transformers with different turns rations, one could, by trial and error arrive at the right turns ratio? this would be pretty difficult to do with any accuracy by just listening to the radio I would think. Phil Article: 322551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:22:37 GMT On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:55:53 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote: >In article , >philsvintageradiosREMOVE@shaw.ca says... >> >> >>Is it worth doing this? John mentions buying them from his local >>friend gary from SV Products. I wouldn't mind buying some, but maybe >>this is the cheap/ quick way to go. >> >> >>Phil >> >> >> > >I talked to Gary today about making up the transformers... the outside >box is the same as he is already making to sell into the Ham Radio >market... 9 to 1 transformer ... waterproof as it is all potted.. >F connector OR BNC fittings your choice... $25 ... the inside >box would be the same.. but not potted... and or could have more >than one output at 600 ohms depending on the purchasers >wishes... $20 for one of these.. again either F connector or BNC.. >probably best is to use the F connector as they are easy to install >onto your coax cables... > >As for making these things up.... yes jump right on it if you >want to... as to making them up from Cable TV Products... good >luck... they might work sort of... but anything designed to >operate at 1 Ghz isn't going to work right at 1/2 Mhz up to 30 Mhz... > >Email me if anyone wants a set of these gizmo's and will put you >in touch with Gary KD9SV .. > >John k9uwa Thanks John, Will do . Phil Article: 322552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Who makes good A,B, & C power supples? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <0e81bc37518ed779795bd73e7d59ac2d@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <1126647894.816998.163050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:28:28 GMT In article <1126647894.816998.163050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, ubergeek72@gmail.com says... > > > >Antique Electronic Supply (www.tubesandmore.com) has a kit for one. >It's their catalog number K-101A. I've not built this particular kit, >but I have built their mini AM transmitter kit, and THAT kit was a good >experience. > >-Jim > I have one of the AES supplies that I built several years ago... the POS does work is about all I can say about it... if your time is worth much... then add that to the AES unit price and buy one >from Dave Snow in Michigan for a class act supply... ARBE 3 supply... here is the website for the Arbe 3 supply... http://www.arbeiii.com/ $149.95 and a 5 year warranty... John k9uwa Article: 322553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:37:19 -0400 From: not today Subject: Re: Who makes good A,B, & C power supples? References: <0e81bc37518ed779795bd73e7d59ac2d@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <1126647894.816998.163050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6cc9c$432754a7$4232bd20$1290@COQUI.NET> Jim Strickland wrote: > Pete_O wrote: > >>I've seen these universal supplies many times, but can't seem to find them >>today. These are the ones that power the old battery radios from the >>20's. Any recommendations out there? I haven't the time to build one and >>would prefer to have a reliable model. Tnx. Pete O, AI2V > > > Antique Electronic Supply (www.tubesandmore.com) has a kit for one. > It's their catalog number K-101A. I've not built this particular kit, > but I have built their mini AM transmitter kit, and THAT kit was a good > experience. > > -Jim > I have the AES kit and like it pretty well. Its somewhat limited in filament current so verify that it will meet your needs. -Bill Article: 322554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <32iei1l3vk82t0523qlnvl0gv0gr00hlcv@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:43:44 GMT In article <32iei1l3vk82t0523qlnvl0gv0gr00hlcv@4ax.com>, philsvintageradiosREMOVE@shaw.ca says... > > > >in an attempt to put the clues together to answer my own question >about the number of turns...: > >- "Reflections can be avoided by coupling through a transformer whose >turns ratio is the square root of the impedance ratio." > >- we know the cable is 75 ohms. >- I can assume 600 to 800 ohms for the antenna ...does length of the >wire affect this much? the radio expects this. ok this is why they >sometimes mention adjusting the antenna trimmer after connecting the >antenna I guess. > >- my Un-Un transformers need to be around 9 to 1 ratio... > >- A low "turns count" is a good indicator the >correct core size and core material is being used." > >hmm.. so the core size is another factor, perhaps this complicates >the calculation of the correct number of turns? I wanted to figure >out how they ended up suggesting 30 turns to 10 turns. > >- lower mu will mean more turns and the coil will >approach more of a narrow resonant circuit than a wider flat one. > >- my interprotation - the "MU" ,which is a property of the ferrite >material will affect the number of turns needed.. so perhaps this is >why it is better to buy the made up ones, rather than to build them >using TV ones.. > >John, do I have all the information above to arrive at this in a >calculation? > >I wondered how this can be measured, >one of the difficulties it seems is trying to figure out if it is >working optimally. > >if one had a meter that measures signal strength, >Perhaps swapping transformers with different turns rations, one could, >by trial and error arrive at the right turns ratio? this would be >pretty difficult to do with any accuracy by just listening to the >radio I would think. > >Phil > > Hi Phil... yes you have it all about right.... large number of turns in whereever you found that 30 to 10 one.. wrong ferrite mix and wrong size or probably both wrong... The stuff to check these Un-Uns would be Vector Impedance Meter... and Spectrum analyser and calibrated radio with accurate meters... Gary and my other buddy Kim Herron went through all that part... Kim was supprised that the impedance of the transformers and the loss was all very close to uniform from 1/2 Mhz.. 550 khz way up past 30 Mhz.. really wasn't too ugly even as high as 108 mhz top of the FM band... Wire length I think won't make much difference in the impedance.. height above ground effects it a little... but again not much... Gary during the winters has use of a field across from his house and there he runs phased pairs of these beverage antennas that are 800 feet long .... and 300 feet between the antennas in the pair... terminated with 600 ohm resistors so that they are single direction only ..... on 1.8 Mhz.. 160 meter ham band he can outhear my 4 square array... and it isn't too bad!.. Gary puts them about 2 feet above ground... the ones I have here are shorter... about 400 feet.. and for the most part mine are 6 to 8 feet above ground... so I can walk through the yard.. and the guy that cuts the grass isn't ducking while riding the mower ... I don't think it is all that critical about whether the antenna was a 450 ohm antenna.. or 600 ohms.... a little off isn't near as important as having the transformers being level across the desired frequency your interested in using them on... and as you stated... the large number of turns... creates large impedance bumps along the way as the thing goes through some resonant points... Gary made my inside box so that it has two outputs on it... one is 50 ohms... and that feeds the Ham Rig... and the other is for hooking the old radios up to it... John k9uwa Article: 322555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Message-ID: References: <9ag4i1520a1ktko6unsukllgq6g8ur91s5@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:41:26 GMT I've heard about those "other" sites. With thier pop ups pushin slinky wiring, curvacious tubes and slick "accessories" at the discerning adult, radio collector. I guess I'm old fashioned and just have no need for flashy websites rife with glossy centerfolds showing titillating Zenith shutterdials, curvacious horn speakers and sultry tombstones posing in all manner of provocative poses. ;-) Ken p.s. there may be better sites on the we but I found ARF to be the best for me. Thanks for the reply though. > There are much better sites out there while you wait. Article: 322556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126591395.911862.226650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:16:31 GMT But the seller says the load hasn't been picked over. All the good ones are still there. Some may be worth as much as $60!! -- Mike Schultz "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:exCVe.1021$wR4.168016@monger.newsread.com... > "frenchy" wrote in message > news:1126591395.911862.226650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> And here I thought I was going to have to make 59 trips to my local >> Salvation Army and Goodwill stores and pick out records with my eyes >> closed till the shopping cart was full... > > As long as you like getting mostly Mario Lanza, gospel artists you've > never > heard of and Jefferson Airplane's "Crown of Creation" without the LP > inside. > > Article: 322557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4327730D.CCDC6DC@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: OT: Tube amp on ebay Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:47:09 -0400 If one of these sound great, can you imagine 2 of them for stereo.. What hype! Sal Brisindi http://www.tuberadios.com Article: 322558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43277358.CAEADF68@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: OT: Tube amp on ebay References: <4327730D.CCDC6DC@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:48:25 -0400 Oops, I was so excited reading about this amp I forgot the link.. ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7349016580 Sal Brisindi wrote: > If one of these sound great, can you imagine 2 of them for stereo.. What > hype! > > Sal Brisindi > http://www.tuberadios.com Article: 322559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Help needed to Identify a Battery radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:56:39 GMT Local friend of ours picked up this really nice looking battery radio cabinet.... no guts... and no labels on it anyplace.. So ... looking for someone that can tell him what sort of guts to be looking for.... email me if you have any ideas.... pictures of the cabinet are here.... http://www.johnjeanantiqueradio.com/unknown.htm real email is k9uwa at arrl dot net thanks John k9uwa Article: 322560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:35:10 GMT Send me your home address and i will mail you one of these. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/transformer/dcp03085.jpg I have taken these transfomers off of military circuit boards and used them for years for SWL. There are taps on the primary and secondary windings so you can experiment to see which gives you better signal strength. I can't say i've used them for AM, but have used them below that band for 60khz WWVB, Navy rtty 515 or 518 khz? and higher up >16mhz for "P" "S" and "C" cw beacons out of Russia many years ago. Universal M-7000 decoder. JRC-525 JRC 535D ICOM R-71A HP 3586C Harris RF-551A preselector Klingenfuss guide to utility stations book. "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:ceeei194u0kms1mqk80lfjkcl9egib79rn@4ax.com... >I wondered as to what is involved in making my own AM and shortwave > antenna cable matching transformers. Maybe I am carrying this on but I > don't think I am the only one interested in the idea. so here is where > I am with it : > > I went to my junkbox and picked out a variety of TV matching > transformers. > > I posted pictures of them on alt.binaries.pictures.radio. There were > a couple of splitters there too. > > some of the transformers have capacitors in them, some don't. > > I googled up this page where it tells you how to "roll your own" from > TV matching transformers. > > http://www.anarc.org/naswa/badx/antennas/low-noise_antenna.html > > here it suggests making a winding with a primary of 30 turns , and a > secondary of 10 turns. > > does this ratio of 10 to 30 sound about right ? I think I might need > to use the two larger ones to get that many turns, the others are > tiny. > > the ratio of 9:1 that John mentions , that isn't the turns ratio, or > is it? > > would it be best to do away with these capacitors? > > Is it worth doing this? John mentions buying them from his local > friend gary from SV Products. I wouldn't mind buying some, but maybe > this is the cheap/ quick way to go. > > This is very interesting and thankyou John and others, for all the > good information in response to my post. > > Phil > > > Article: 322561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call From: Tom Lager References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:00:45 GMT "John Hagman" wrote in news:11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com: > I will be arriving lunchtime Friday in a big white Ford van, space > #313. I > am putting the final touches on the recapped RCA 262 I'm bringing to > sell, in addition to the untouched Zenith 12H998 and various other > things. Drop by and see me, I'll be setup by mid afternoon Fri. and > camping overnight, leaving early afternoon Saturday. > > I can't wait! > > John H. > > I'll be there later Friday afternoon, Booth 310A, with a few consoles of which I have duplicates, some parts sets and a fully restored Zenith 6S52. I'll also have a box of transmitting tubes I want to get rid of cheap. Tom Lager Article: 322562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126553585.289214.65190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126556974.531836.81050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126558785.651078.65750@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126575647.082175.146490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More on Kutztown Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:06:01 GMT Thanks, I have a guy interested in my 262 and he is an originality nut. Im going to keep the 365 instead, seeing its the same cabinet and much more hard to find. Keith "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1126575647.082175.146490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Keith: > > Before me. I have alternate sources and do not want to be piggy. But if > Mark has "enough" of that knob (two) then we would both be served. The > other one I would "like" would be the small knob of that style, the on > on the "patient" has a divot taken out of it. If Mike does not have it, > I will use plastic wood of the appropriate color, sand and lacquer. > > I can always 'borrow' such a knob from any of several other Zeniths > floating around the house and sub in the repro I have... but, like you > I would prefer OEM. Article: 322563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126553585.289214.65190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126556974.531836.81050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5f764$432630b7$4232bd50$31097@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: More on Kutztown Message-ID: <0ILVe.77293$EX.42152@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:14:20 GMT Really! The NWS is late at the switch this year! Im headed out tommoro on a trip through PA too, looks like the Storm will be more inland than the GFS (model of choice for most) is leading us to believe. There is also a cold front moving through to draw moisture in from Ophelia. There will be a good rain sheild likely, but the timing is still a bit uncertain. Probably through the Kutztown area Thursday and Thursday night, and clearing slowly on Friday. I wouldnt be too concerned yet especially since were under a pavillion but this storm loves to move slowly and if it doesnt get moving soon it may arrive Friday instead. Saturday does look clear sailing though!> See everyone on Friday! Keith > > but I > > have a senior expert meterologist aware of the situation and he will keep me > > informed about the rain shield and how far inland it goes. > > Be sure and have him keep the NWS up to date, too. > > :) > > -Bill Article: 322564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <%eHVe.559$5n4.301@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <1126661046.805074.71190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1/2 D cell 1.5 ? Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: <43278871$0$32200$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I've posted a page from a mid-sixties Eveready catalog that shoes this battery. wrote in message news:1126661046.805074.71190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Henry Kolesnik wrote: >> Last weekend at the Mena swapfest I bought a military transistor testet >> Model TT-22 made by Abbey Electronics, L.I. NY in 1968. It uses four >> Eveready Alkaline 1/2 D cells N0. E94 1.5 volts. I've never seen or >> heard >> of these runts before I got this thing. Google isn't much help. Any >> tips >> or help appreciated. >> >> -- >> >> 73 >> Hank WD5JFR > > I've a guide that lists that battery to be registered as NEDA # 927 > (and no equivalent Mil #, or Burgess, or Mallory, Ray-O-Vac etc.) > > ...and Google was useless for me to go further too; no, it's not > 'National Eating Disorders Association', it's the National Electronic > Distributors Association; but I didn't see any spec information on > their web site. I checked my NEDA 1971 crossover guide as well--and it seems Eveready was the only player in the game that made that type of battery. No equivalents listed. Bill Article: 322565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Ever made a wall display Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:15:11 -0600 Message-ID: <3654-432787AF-71@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Of just old radio parts say the interesting and more odd parts . maybe on wood or a cork bulletin board size range 12`` to 24`` square . Article: 322566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <3654-432787AF-71@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Ever made a wall display Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:38:17 -0700 Well, My brother once made the frankin VCR. He took a pine board about 4 foot long and laid out the various parts of a vcr. He got them all hooked up and then make the damned thing work.... It was ugly as sin, but very cool. He had a hard time with the light sensors for the tape path...but it did work!!!! I was a cool wall display (working) when he was done... bob in phx.. "Ken G." wrote in message news:3654-432787AF-71@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net... > Of just old radio parts say the interesting and more odd parts . maybe > on wood or a cork bulletin board size range 12`` to 24`` square . > Article: 322567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Edison Mainspring Repair From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1F0Ve.10417$_84.1836@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <7_0Ve.8684$c27.2624@trndny01> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:42:28 GMT Message-ID: <43278e39$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> If you have enough of the center coils out to drill a hole in the detempered spring, you can file the right shape to fit the existing rivet head. Just use the original hole, or what is left of it to trace a template. Ron L Article: 322568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <3654-432787AF-71@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Ever made a wall display Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:50:17 GMT "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:w2MVe.66$2o.34@fed1read05... > Well, My brother once made the frankin VCR. He took a pine board about 4 > foot long and laid out the various parts of a vcr. He got them all hooked up > and then make the damned thing work.... It was ugly as sin, but very cool. > He had a hard time with the light sensors for the tape path...but it did > work!!!! I was a cool wall display (working) when he was done... > > bob in phx.. What's he do now? Article: 322569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> <4325A472.24D2E828@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:55:06 -0700 we had the 5N disk... It was a 24 inch plate with one head per track. It ran on air bearing like a dentist drill, but bigger... One day it would not come up.... 42 hours latter, I was sitting next to it and noticed that the water separator was full to the top. It looked like it was empty because it was so full. I told the boss and the thing was running 5 min latter... I got a set of movie passes and a free dinner!!! That was back in 1978...... I was only 17... bob in phx "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4325A472.24D2E828@earthlink.net... > Tim Mullen wrote: >> >> In Larry writes: >> >> >The first hard drive I saw was a huge drum. We were allowed to look >> >into >> >the room where it was whirring away, but not allowed to go in there >> >because >> >ANY vibration made its heads crash into the drum. We were still >> >impressed... >> >> What you saw was a paging drum. A big cylinder of magnetic media, >> about the size of a small wastebasket, covered with read/write heads. >> The heads are stationary, with any spot of magnetic information only >> a few degrees of rotation away from a head. The heads can't crash. >> >> -- >> Tim Mullen >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. >> ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- > > That sounds a lot like the analog drum recorders they used to use at > telephone C.O.s to record outgoing messages on. The one we had at Ft. > Rucker in the early '70s. it had multiple heads so the message would > start on a different output every couple seconds and it could handle 200 > connections per output. It was used to store weather and military alert > data so all you had to do was call the phone number from anywhere in the > world. The routine maintenance was to clean the heads once a week. I'm > sure it has been replaced by a bulky and expensive voice mail system. > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 322570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Airline 14BR-1109A Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:05:35 -0600 Message-ID: Looking for a pic of the above radio so I can see the grill coth in it. Just got one in for repair and it looks like someone used an old bedspread for a grill coth in it and the lady wants an as close to original cloth put back in it. I just scoured the net...including Radio Attic and can't seem to find a pic of one so I can see what to get. Anybody got a pic of this one ?? Ben Article: 322571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:15:10 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <12kai15l217bvi38vkruti278t09fg0kie@4ax.com> Message-ID: philsvintageradios wrote: > > maybe these devices can be made adjustable to find the optimum ratio > somehow? > > Phil Maybe John's guy can make you a tapped one. Thats the way many of the commercially made units are done. Your antenna's effective impedance will vary with frequency. I don't think you'd notice a big difference between one ratio and another - and if you did it would be acting just the opposite on some other frequency. -Bill Article: 322572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: FA, not mine, but nice Silvertone tombstone... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:22:09 GMT Got the chassis, got the dial, what happened to the pointer? Ask Jeff Goldsmith, he sold me the similar chassis to replace the one I had that was frozen up and had no coil (4569 in a 4589 cabinet). My very first one. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:b4udnUbCuLeUPrreRVn-gQ@comcast.com... > forgot the link!... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-World-Band-Superhet-Tube-Tombstone-Radio_W0QQitemZ6561364165QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:vc6dnfmDxvFNPLreRVn-rg@comcast.com... > > > > this one needs new cloth, speaker fixed (you can do that in your shop..!) > , > > refinish...BUT, its also one of the most stylish tombstones ever, in my > > opinion. LOVE this gold dial, and the grille is fantastic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 322573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Driving me nuts Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:44:03 GMT I have this Silvertone 7054 (Sams folder 15) here that is playing games. At the low end of the dial (560 - 640 Khz) it whistles. Below 560 it putt-putts. The problem is very sensitive to proximity of hands and orientation of wires and parts in first 2 stages of set. The problem is the symptoms will disappear after I do something and reappear later. Upper end of dial is fine. Long range reception is fine outside of problem area of dial. I have replaced all the caps and most of the resistors (including _all_ of ones in the RF Amp and osc. stages) fiddled with the tuning cap plates, moved osc. and antenna coils around, tried different tubes, retuned my hands off (i.f.'s are nice and sharp, btw), etc. The problem will clear up for a while after one or another "fix" and then return later. I only have most basic tools at this time. What am I missing? Ray Article: 322574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:56:57 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Driving me nuts References: Message-ID: Rune wrote: > I have this Silvertone 7054 (Sams folder 15) here that is playing games. > > At the low end of the dial (560 - 640 Khz) it whistles. Below 560 it > putt-putts. The problem is very sensitive to proximity of hands and > orientation of wires and parts in first 2 stages of set. > > I have replaced all the caps and most of the resistors (including _all_ of > ones in the RF Amp and osc. stages) fiddled with the tuning cap plates, > moved osc. and antenna coils around, tried different tubes, retuned my hands > off (i.f.'s are nice and sharp, btw), etc. The problem will clear up for a > while after one or another "fix" and then return later. > > What am I missing? Just a guess here. First, I'm assuming this is the 7054 with loktal (6) tubes? There's also an AA5 type with the same model number but it has no rf amp stage. Are you sure the IF aligned is to 455kc and not some other frequency? -Bill Article: 322575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1949 Pilot TV-125 -- Sparks Inside Restored CRT! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:07:52 GMT "Scott Marshall" wrote in message news:1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Need help! > > > - How likely is it the CRT rebuild is the problem? Perhaps harmed in > shipping? > Didn't someone mention problems with recently rebuilt CRTs at the Early TV meet last year or earlier this year? Maybe check with Steve McVoy directly to see what that was about. jim menning Article: 322576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: WTB: Large Tube Sockets Message-ID: <0WYVe.90384$Ph4.2862922@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:16:44 GMT I need a pair of sockets large enough to hold some 813 tubes. The socket type is 5BA, and it's about 2-3" wide. Some old used ones are preferable, since NOS are just too costly..... Article: 322577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <70ZVe.10610$Ix4.8195@okepread03> Subject: Re: FS. Zenith Wincharger - can bring to Kutztown this weekend. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:35:09 GMT "Chong Ong" wrote in message news:70ZVe.10610$Ix4.8195@okepread03... > FS. One nice and original Zenith Wincharger. > All Complete. A little rust here and there - no major rust > problem. > All original paint. > Has a Black with Yellow Zenith Wincharger tail and a Yellow with > black Wincharger Tail. > Model 38 with 6Volt instrument panel. > Comes with original and old prop that is in very good condition. > Bonus .... comes with a NOS original prop! Yes NOS prop. Never used > or mounted. > Also comes with nearly mint literature about the Wincharger. > Asking $1200.00 Chong, is that the one from the Bolingbrook show in August? jim menning Article: 322578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Chong Ong Subject: Re: FS. Zenith Wincharger - can bring to Kutztown this weekend. References: <70ZVe.10610$Ix4.8195@okepread03> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:10:32 -0400 Yes it is! Chong > Chong, is that the one from the Bolingbrook show in August? > > jim menning > > Article: 322579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <1126651938.574354.50350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126652160.830194.233350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Predicta Pedestal Metal Feet Message-ID: <9IZVe.535$gK.8@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:10:13 GMT If Mark's contact does not work out, try contacting Larry Whitlock Lwhitlock7@aol.com . He restores TVs and specializes in Predictas. He may have the parts you need. Article: 322580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126591395.911862.226650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126658362.680417.186870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:14:17 GMT My comment was sarcastic. That seems to have gone way over your head. Welcome to my killfile. -- Mike Schultz "Steven" wrote in message news:1126658362.680417.186870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > I'm not going over this again, as when I mention he is likely a scam, a > schizophrenic circus of clowns erupts into posting and mucks up the > whole damned newsgroup for 2 or three days, and I'm tired of feeling > like killing them. > > You keep chiming in on these things. If you are so sure about him, buy > his stuff and stop bringing it up. The rest of us are tired of seeing > it. We are trying to grow here and this isn't helping. > > Sincerely, Steven > Article: 322581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126702394.720307.22100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126716212.831188.12620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126719774.978513.84970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA, not mine, but nice Silvertone tombstone... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:17:54 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1126719774.978513.84970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >I guess that pointer is fine, judging from my pictures...it's over in > Nampa at my folks in storage temporarily while I am in the process > of > moving. I sent the pix to the Silvertone site Jim Menning mentioned > in > the other Silvertone thread running right now. > Correct pointer looks like this: http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/5259/p10100889ea.jpg jim menning Article: 322582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:29:12 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Ever made a wall display References: <3654-432787AF-71@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Phil Nelson wrote: > The French National Museum of Art in Paris has a piece of "art" that is a > working radio strung out in a frame: > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/WallRadio.jpg > > Sorry for the crappy photo; flash photography was not allowed. I don't think a flash would have helped in depicting this "art" . -Bill Article: 322583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1126630747.390160.289510@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: This old house Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:44:27 -0230 "Steven" wrote in message in part, > ......... snip ...............the only other option I might have is > to live behind KSRV's 5000 watt twin towers (not all that sure about > that one). > I recall some 55 years ago reading in the UK press about an instance in Britain where an experimenter wound a big coil on the wall of his garden shed and capacitor tuned it to the frequency of an adjacent radio transmitting station, probably one of those 50,000 to 500,000 watt stations such as Rugby, thereby getting enough RF energy to light a low wattage light bulb in the shed. The device could have been considered a 'Big Absorption Wavemeter'. He was prosecuted for "Theft of electricity"! My thought about how 'the authorities' might have become aware, was maybe a distortion in the radiation pattern of the transmitted signal around the antenna site. Or perhaps someone just 'ratted'! But hey; it wasn't like he was taking a kilowatt or two to heat his house! I thought there was a distinct lack of correctness or fairness in that! Namely: Joe Blow #1 builds a 'big' radio receiver and takes enough energy out of the ether to light a lamp. Joe Blow #2 builds a crystal set and takes a few microwatts to power a set of headphones! the difference is only in the degree not basic principle; but I'm not into jurisprudence! But in fact will not any tuned circuit extract some energy from the RF field of the transmitted signal? Even the micro, microwatts of signal picked up by the tuned input of the first tube/valve of a typical radio, at say minus 120 dBm is RF energy? Anybody on that side of the pond remember that? Article: 322584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126591395.911862.226650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126658362.680417.186870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:06:28 -0400 "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:ZLZVe.4819$3b6.529@trndny07... > My comment was sarcastic. That seems to have gone way over your head. > > Welcome to my killfile. > > -- > Mike Schultz > Mike Most of us did that a month or so back. Nice here without all of the braying. Pete Article: 322585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1949 Pilot TV-125 -- Sparks Inside Restored CRT! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:16:46 -0400 "Scott Marshall" wrote in message news:1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > missing tubes. The CRT, a 12LP4, was rebuilt by Hawk Eye last month > (lost vacuum), and this was the first opportunity I've had to test it. > > > - Any other recommendations? > Scott, I'd be on the phone to Hawk Eye in a heartbeat if it was my CRT! Pete Article: 322586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FS. Zenith Wincharger - can bring to Kutztown this weekend. From: Larry References: <70ZVe.10610$Ix4.8195@okepread03> <1126722779.091639.285500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:32:32 -0400 "Mike Koste" wrote in news:1126722779.091639.285500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > I'm looking forward to seeing it. There was a fellow at the Spring > Kutztown meet who had the Montgomery Wards version for sale. Very cool. > > Mike Koste > Gobs of Knobs > Ambler, PA > > Have you guys seen the homebrew power stations on: http://www.otherpower.com ? Completely homebrew. They make their own laminated blades, even. Don't miss the hamster-powered one they made for the kids...(c; -- Larry Article: 322587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Chong Ong Subject: Re: FS. Zenith Wincharger - can bring to Kutztown this weekend. References: <70ZVe.10610$Ix4.8195@okepread03> <1126725015.181645.310810@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:35:52 -0400 I am going for sure. Since there are some interest I'll bring it. There also was one for sale at the AWA Rochester - NOS and the asking price was $1200. Also got a NOS prop with old wooden one. It had a much later Admiral tail. Late in the day still saw it. Not sure if it got sold. Will be there Friday noon. Chong > Soooooo tempting. I even have a legitimate place to put the thing all > of a sudden. > > Are you coming anyway so I can postpone any decisions and/or offers > until Saturday? I have Dynaco and Scott stuff that may be of interest. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 322588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: This old house From: Larry References: <1126630747.390160.289510@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126724534.606721.312980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:35:55 -0400 "Steven" wrote in news:1126724534.606721.312980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Larry has spun many a yarn on how to annoy the neighbors at night with > a transmitter I think ;-0 > > Who, me, annoy anyone? Heaven forbid!...(c; "No ma'am. You didn't see any sparks coming off the top of that multiband vertical antenna. It must have been a reflection from the street lights." If you non-hams want to be blamed for every failed appliance within 2 miles of home, just put up a ham antenna. You don't need a transmitter to do it. -- Larry Article: 322589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: 8BP4 pinout References: <1126718169.149506.326620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:34:42 -0500 tim87529@gmail.com wrote: > I need to check the continuity of the heater in an 8BP4. It's one of > those with the non-standard base that Motorola used in the late '40s > and as a result won't fit in the socket of my cathode-ray tube tester. > > Any information is appreciated! > > 73, > > Tim > Hi Tim, You can find a spec sheet for 8AP4A at http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/093/8/8AP4A.pdf. I would assume that has the same pinout as the 8AP4. Heater is 6.3V at 0.6A amp. HTH Raymond Article: 322590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: 1949 Pilot TV-125 -- Sparks Inside Restored CRT! References: <1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:49:10 GMT Scott Marshall wrote: > > PS: During testing, the chassis is out and the HV line to the CRT is > running right next to the neck (1") where the sparking is inside the > neck. Any chance this could be the cause? The spec is 10 kv. Yes, this could be a possible cause. The breakdown spec for dry air is about 10 kV per inch. I would certainly try to re-arrange the lead dress away from the CRT neck and try it again. Good luck! Article: 322591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126718169.149506.326620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 8BP4 pinout Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:40:38 GMT wrote in message news:1126718169.149506.326620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I need to check the continuity of the heater in an 8BP4. It's one of > those with the non-standard base that Motorola used in the late '40s > and as a result won't fit in the socket of my cathode-ray tube > tester. > > Any information is appreciated! > > Here you go: http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/778/8bp4acrtdata0jg.jpg jim menning Article: 322592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 Message-ID: <2i1We.89711$Hx4.88896@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:15:26 GMT "66fourdoor" wrote in message news:1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > BUY THEM NOW FOR $250 > 25 CENTS PER RECORD- A SMOKIN' DEAL ! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4768029127&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT > I'm about an hour away - is it possible to come down and see them or to get more pictures emailed? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <2i1We.89711$Hx4.88896@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:25:49 GMT Sorry - I meant to send that to the OP. Jon "Jon" wrote in message news:2i1We.89711$Hx4.88896@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "66fourdoor" wrote in message > news:1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> BUY THEM NOW FOR $250 >> 25 CENTS PER RECORD- A SMOKIN' DEAL ! >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4768029127&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT >> > > I'm about an hour away - is it possible to come down and see them or to > get more pictures emailed? > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > Article: 322594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <0WYVe.90384$Ph4.2862922@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <1126719401.333239.50460@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB: Large Tube Sockets Message-ID: <0u1We.90532$Ph4.2866303@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:28:12 GMT I had checked on www.tubeworld.com, and I guess I just assumed that was an average market price. I'll order some next time I shop at AES. These are for a tube-driven Tesla coil, and I just don't trust the homemade sockets I installed in the thing (made of wood, after all....) wrote in message news:1126719401.333239.50460@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > [813 socket] > > since NOS are just too costly..... > > AES ( http://www.tubesandmore.com/ ) lists P-ST7-813 for $3.95 each. > > Tim. > Article: 322596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 8BP4 pinout Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:47:09 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1126718169.149506.326620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1126718169.149506.326620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I need to check the continuity of the heater in an 8BP4. It's one of > those with the non-standard base that Motorola used in the late '40s > and as a result won't fit in the socket of my cathode-ray tube tester. > > Any information is appreciated! Tim, Not familiar with that particular tube, but on CRT's, the filament pins are the ones just either side of the guide. Article: 322598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 8BP4 pinout Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:07:41 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1126718169.149506.326620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1126718169.149506.326620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I need to check the continuity of the heater in an 8BP4. It's one of > those with the non-standard base that Motorola used in the late '40s > and as a result won't fit in the socket of my cathode-ray tube tester. > > Any information is appreciated! Is it anything like the 8AP4? http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/093/8/8AP4A.pdf Article: 322599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1126702394.720307.22100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126716212.831188.12620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126719774.978513.84970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA, not mine, but nice Silvertone tombstone... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:59:58 -0400 "jim menning" wrote in message news:mPZVe.28960$mb4.18479@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > Correct pointer looks like this: > > http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/5259/p10100889ea.jpg > > jim menning > That is NOT the correct pointer for the tombstone at auction. Pete > Article: 322600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: 1949 Pilot TV-125 -- Sparks Inside Restored CRT! Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 14 Sep 2005 06:33:40 -0700 "Scott Marshall" wrote: >PS: During testing, the chassis is out and the HV line to the CRT is >running right next to the neck (1") where the sparking is inside the >neck. Any chance this could be the cause? The spec is 10 kv. Do you have a good ground wire run between the chassis and the grounded outside of the CRT? - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 322601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1949 Pilot TV-125 -- Sparks Inside Restored CRT! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:57:31 GMT A couple of things can cause this type of arcing; excess voltages at the elements in the gun, or contamination inside the CRT. Unfortunatly, I've experienced the same thing with CRT's used in older video games. These often get jarred while they are on location, which causes stuff to break loose inside the envelope. The tube will fail if its transported laying down (CRT screen up). The loose crud gets down in the gun, and when its powered up, fireworks. I would suggest pulling the socket from the CRT, and measuring the element voltages. If they are all OK, suspect contamination. Might be worth holding the CRT with the face down, and shaking it (gently). Can't hurt! Steve Article: 322602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Driving me nuts Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:03:13 GMT "Rune" wrote in message news:DOVVe.32440$%w.30257@twister.nyc.rr.com... >I have this Silvertone 7054 (Sams folder 15) here that is playing games. > > At the low end of the dial (560 - 640 Khz) it whistles. Below 560 it > putt-putts. The problem is very sensitive to proximity of hands and > orientation of wires and parts in first 2 stages of set. > > The problem is the symptoms will disappear after I do something and > reappear later. Upper end of dial is fine. Long range reception is fine > outside of problem area of dial. > > I have replaced all the caps and most of the resistors (including _all_ of > ones in the RF Amp and osc. stages) fiddled with the tuning cap plates, > moved osc. and antenna coils around, tried different tubes, retuned my > hands off (i.f.'s are nice and sharp, btw), etc. The problem will clear up > for a while after one or another "fix" and then return later. > > I only have most basic tools at this time. > > What am I missing? > > Ray The last radio that did this to me was one that I put a too small value Safety cap in to replace the wax/paper one that connected circuit common to the chassis. I think it was a 0.1 uf that I replaced with a smaller value about 0.01. When replaced with the correct value safety cap all those problems went away and I could to an exacting alignment and not off peak. Check those caps that connect line to ground and circuit common to ground. PP. Article: 322603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 1949 Pilot TV-125 -- Sparks Inside Restored CRT! Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126704820.172825.136300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Steve" writes: >Might be worth holding the CRT with the face down, and >shaking it (gently). Can't hurt! Actually, it can. If there's crud inside the bottle it'll scratch the phosphor. Rank-Cintel flying-spot scanner tubes are shipped face-up in a special carton with a heavy cardboard triangle on top of the box to keep them from being placed placed upside down. You're right, though, in that in this particular case there's not much to lose. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Find: Sparton811 Message-ID: <425We.3781$qP3.40186@news1.mts.net> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:31:17 -0700 Picked up at a second hand store, a Sparton 811, and I'm expecting some big things from it. Five bands, eleven tubes plus 6E5 eye, RF stage, two IF stages with 3 variable BW IFT's and Type 42 P-P output to a 12 inch speaker. I had to experiment, and cut out the four electrolytics and tacked in temporaries, and it was picking up SW bands on about a foot of wire. The BC audio is great, but there are some challenges with intermittent AC hum (heater-cathode short?) and I think the AVC. The challenge is the finish. There are a couple of sections on the upper corners of the cabinet that have elaborate "inlays"... which I'm afraid might be of the patterned paper persuasion. The finish is finely crazed, and I'm just wondering if anyone has tried an gentle stripping job and managed to preserve a "paper inlay". The patterns would be some work to reproduce. What's your advice? Photos on a.b.p.r. Cheers, Nelson Article: 322605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126739437.460516.165020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126750877.432221.248990@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio chat tongiht Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:41:24 GMT "Trey" wrote in message news:LMudnaDNTt6nQLXeRVn-vw@bresnan.com... > Rules? > > > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1126750877.432221.248990@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Until there are some rules it doesn't make much sense. Like I haven't got a clue, nobody is striking up much more than a hello gallery and if I want to DX I rarely have time to mess with a computer and have a conversation. Doesn't work well to me. YMMV esp. if you use Imperial gallons. Article: 322606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: Boat Anchor Night. 15 Sept Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:42:33 GMT "Trey" wrote in message news:XvydnaNdOeK2X7XeRVn-vw@bresnan.com... > See link for more details... > > http://oldradioz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=156 > > If you have a boatanchor, stop in and join the fun. Id join in, but I am > boatanchorless! > > trey Not allowed still. Could bat for Washington. Article: 322607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:51:09 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:DYWdnRaTMN2KGrXeRVn-vA@giganews.com... > > Thanks Jim, you've made me a believer. > > > > jim menning > > Me too. Never say never! :-) > > Phil Nelson Hey! Our fellow at sfhobbies put up my 4589 and cleaned up all the damage (except the side is green for some reason, which I pointed out)... This is good because it's very rarely seen in any condition! Article: 322608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126702394.720307.22100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126716212.831188.12620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126719774.978513.84970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA, not mine, but nice Silvertone tombstone... Message-ID: <4p5We.49238$32.41006@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:56:00 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:iI3We.97045$Ji4.19708@fed1read03... > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:mPZVe.28960$mb4.18479@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> > >> Correct pointer looks like this: >> >> http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/5259/p10100889ea.jpg >> > > That is NOT the correct pointer for the tombstone at auction. > > Pete > You could easily be right, but I sure thought it looked like the one that was on mine. How does the correct one differ? I wish I still had my radio to confirm one way or another, all I have is this fuzzy picture left: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2638/silvertone4wn.jpg Here are 4 others off the internet, but none are really clear enough to blow up and compare with certainty: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/MRT/Silv4465.JPG http://my.raex.com/~ka8wtk/ham/antique/4465/s1small.jpg http://www.radioattic.com/old/sold_radios_2004/Verville_Silvertone_4465_(1937).jpg http://www.oldradiozone.com/models/Silverton_4465.jpg jim menning Article: 322609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126739437.460516.165020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126750877.432221.248990@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8dqdnR1dTsIcfbXenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@bresnan.com> Subject: Re: Radio chat tongiht Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:57:32 GMT "Trey" wrote in message news:8dqdnR1dTsIcfbXenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@bresnan.com... > Dont shoot the messenger, haha. Im just passing it along. BA's are way > over my head right now. Try tomorrow and see what happens. > > trey I've got a hallicrafters S-118 Mk II c. mid-late fifties if I'm not mistaken, a little box with 5 common tubes and I'm lucky to have even a half-baked BFO, but my assortment of techno-crap renders it useless across 85% of the bandspread unless I turn it off or take it to the front yard. Doing a chat and anything over 7 mc is pointless. Article: 322610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126702394.720307.22100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126716212.831188.12620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126719774.978513.84970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <4p5We.49238$32.41006@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: FA, not mine, but nice Silvertone tombstone... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 02:59:56 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:4p5We.49238$32.41006@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > news:iI3We.97045$Ji4.19708@fed1read03... > > > > "jim menning" wrote in message > > news:mPZVe.28960$mb4.18479@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > >> > > >> Correct pointer looks like this: > >> > >> http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/5259/p10100889ea.jpg > >> > > > > That is NOT the correct pointer for the tombstone at auction. > > > > Pete > > > > > You could easily be right, but I sure thought it looked like the one > that was on mine. How does the correct one differ? Mine should me visible in my ABPR thread. Go look. Jeff Goldsmith had the same one as on the original chassis; they MATCH. > > I wish I still had my radio to confirm one way or another, all I have > is this fuzzy picture left: > > http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2638/silvertone4wn.jpg > > > Here are 4 others off the internet, but none are really clear enough > to blow up and compare with certainty: > > http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/MRT/Silv4465.JPG > > http://my.raex.com/~ka8wtk/ham/antique/4465/s1small.jpg > > http://www.radioattic.com/old/sold_radios_2004/Verville_Silvertone_4465_(1937).jpg > > http://www.oldradiozone.com/models/Silverton_4465.jpg > > jim menning > > Article: 322611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:51:59 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <71733$4328efe2$4232bd0c$28873@COQUI.NET> tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > Should I mess with his auction? Please don't report him to ebay until I > decide how to handle this. > > Thanks > Terry. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Circle-of-Sound-Am-Fm-Clock-Radio-Model-K472W_W0QQitemZ6561583174 > Oh boy, you can have some fun. Temporarily replace those pix on your site with something very rude and vulgar using the same file names. He'll get the message. -Bill Article: 322612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <425We.3781$qP3.40186@news1.mts.net> Subject: Re: Sparton811 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:01:35 -0700 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:BP-dnR0SW_AndLXeRVn-rg@giganews.com... > Wow, that is one handsome console. > > If that truly is a photo-finish decal (I have no idea), I guess the worry > would be that any kind of stripping, even a gentle "reflowing," might wreck > the decal. Someone like Stewart S. may know what the risk is there. > > If the finish is merely crazed, could you try some very gentle wet sanding > with high grade paper (800, 1200) followed by a couple of coats of clear > lacquer, rubbing out between the new coats? Based on those photos, the > finish looks good enough that I would not be tempted to try anything > drastic. > > The few photo finishes that I've worked with are less complicated -- a > simple repeating grain pattern, for instance. If this is a photo finish, > it's a fancy one! > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Thanks for the response, Phil. I did some gentle scraping with a fingernail on the border pattern and the finish flaked off. Close peering with a magnifier showed a grain pattern in the different coloured bits, so maybe I'm a very lucky boy! Still, the intricacy of the work makes it hard to believe it might be wood. There are a couple of gouges that will need some work, and this is one cabinet in my accumulation that I'd think would justify a good, careful refinish job. Incidentally, if you look to the leftmost knob, the bandswitch, you'll see a small lens above it. I thought that was someone's kludge, and then discovered a small semaphore assembly behind it. As you change bands the light colour changes to match the color of the band markings on the dial. Too bad the dial is a bit faded. Nelson Article: 322613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:59:40 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> looks like he linked to more than just your pics... looks like he just stole the whole page. funny too cause most of it has nothing to do with his auction. randy wrote in message news:1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Should I mess with his auction? Please don't report him to ebay until I > decide how to handle this. > > Thanks > Terry. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Circle-of-Sound-Am-Fm-Clock-Radio-Model-K472W_W0QQitemZ6561583174 > Article: 322614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <71733$4328efe2$4232bd0c$28873@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:00:26 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:71733$4328efe2$4232bd0c$28873@COQUI.NET... > tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > >> Should I mess with his auction? Please don't report him to ebay >> until I >> decide how to handle this. >> >> Thanks >> Terry. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Circle-of-Sound-Am-Fm-Clock-Radio-Model-K472W_W0QQitemZ6561583174 >> > > Oh boy, you can have some fun. Temporarily replace those pix on > your site with something very rude and vulgar using the same file > names. He'll get the message. > > -Bill Try the bottom one here: http://pages.prodigy.net/kris.baker/collectibles/antifaq-pots.html jim menning Article: 322615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4328F632.79F6D4EC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:18:11 GMT tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > > Should I mess with his auction? Please don't report him to ebay until I > decide how to handle this. > > Thanks > Terry. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Circle-of-Sound-Am-Fm-Clock-Radio-Model-K472W_W0QQitemZ6561583174 Two ideas: 1. Add a message to the images with the name of your website across the bottom. Open them with paint, grab the center marker in the bottom line and drag it down to make room for the tag, then add your marker. It takes about 30 seconds per image. 2. You could just move all the images to a folder on the website for a couple days so he doesn't have anything to link to. Then put ups some temporary images with the same names that apologize to visitors to your website, while showing his Ebay user name and tell everyone that he's an image thief. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Find: Sparton811 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <425We.3781$qP3.40186@news1.mts.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:35:04 GMT In article <425We.3781$qP3.40186@news1.mts.net>, ngietz@mts.net says... > > >The finish is >finely crazed, and I'm just wondering if anyone has tried an > gentle stripping job and managed to preserve a "paper >inlay". The patterns would be some work to reproduce. > What's your advice? Photos on a.b.p.r. >Cheers, > Nelson > > > Is the Crazed Finish your problem?... or is the whole finish shot?.. If its just a craze problem U need a bottle of Qualurenu .... spray on a wet coat... with the surface up horizontal your spraying with the stuff.. it realmagamates the original finish and the crazing goes away... some stubborn cases it will take repeating two or three times... John k9uwa Article: 322617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126591395.911862.226650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126658362.680417.186870@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126725627.381449.219860@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:39:56 GMT Steven wrote: > Don't be so ridiculous. The fact that you even answered exposes > your fib once more. Have a good day, Peter. Idiot. He replied to Mike, NOT you. Ignoring you is akin to walking by an unflushed toilet. It goes against our instinct for decency and cleanliness. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:07:39 GMT This is really strange. This dufus has a perfect feedback record, and yet here he is pulling a dumb move like this that could easily get his account terminated. I presume he actually has one of these radios, but is just too lazy to take a picture of it. I would simply email the guy and explain to him that you don't appreciate his theft of your pictures and text (against eBay rules), and point out to him that this gives the appearance of fraud, and eBay would probably cancel his account (and his perfect feedback) if you complained. Ask him to terminate the auction immediately, and suggest that he link to your site as a better approach to adding information to his auctions. I did this once, and got a very nice email back from the seller. She simply didn't realize that what she did was a problem. If he doesn't pull the auction, then complain to eBay (the nuclear option). -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Should I mess with his auction? Please don't report him to ebay until I > decide how to handle this. > > Thanks > Terry. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Circle-of-Sound-Am-Fm-Clock-Radio-Model-K472W_W0QQitemZ6561583174 > Article: 322619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:14:10 -0400 a écrit > He probably doesn't even > know he's doing anything wrong. You'd probably need to be a total moron not to know this is forbidden. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Tell that to the next cop that pulls you over for speeding. This is called learning the hard way. Let him have it. eBay won't do nothing else than pull the auction. This doesn't stop images thieves from doing it again. Now, if they know they can get retaliation from the images's owner, THAT makes an efficient deterrent... You can also replace a few images with text... Syl Article: 322620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:47:16 -0600 Message-ID: <14168-43296D54-146@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Thats no fun ! i would have changed the pictures with some nice playboy picture . Article: 322621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Ever made a wall display Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:49:15 -0600 Message-ID: <14168-43296DCB-147@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <4hdWe.19$Gg1.3@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Gary have you forgotten the ceiling ? Article: 322622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <0WYVe.90384$Ph4.2862922@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <1126719401.333239.50460@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0u1We.90532$Ph4.2866303@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: WTB: Large Tube Sockets Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:53:26 GMT Here's some pics and info on a slightly more powerful version, with 833 tubes.... http://www.stevehv.4hv.org/VTTC3.htm A handy use for old transmitter tubes! "Trey" wrote in message news:V92dnQeiH634QrXenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@bresnan.com... > ooo, id like to see more info on that. > > trey > > > "Chris F." wrote in message > news:0u1We.90532$Ph4.2866303@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > >I had checked on www.tubeworld.com, and I guess I just assumed that was an > > average market price. > > I'll order some next time I shop at AES. These are for a tube-driven Tesla > > coil, and I just don't trust the homemade sockets I installed in the thing > > (made of wood, after all....) > > > > wrote in message > > news:1126719401.333239.50460@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > >> > [813 socket] > >> > since NOS are just too costly..... > >> > >> AES ( http://www.tubesandmore.com/ ) lists P-ST7-813 for $3.95 each. > >> > >> Tim. > >> > > > > > > Article: 322623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:57:07 GMT Looks like he got the message. Now, you should rename all the image files on that page, and alter the page so they still display there, but not on the auction page. -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Guys, I took the high road... Here is my email to the seller: > > In my never-ending quest to find more Circle of Sound radios, I came > across your auction. Gee... those pictures and text looked familiar... > Wait! That's MY web page you've stolen and used in it's entirety in > your auction! You should be aware that this is a violation of ebay's > terms of usage, also a clear violation of my copyrights as posted on > the home page of my website. I am asking you to either pull all my > pictures and my text from your auction, or add the proper credits under > each photo and links to my website at the top and bottom of the > description. You need to make it very clear that the material belongs > to me, and is not your own work. If you do not take these actions > today, I will be forced to report these violations to ebay, or else I > will perhaps put some very embarrassing pictures up in place of those > radio pictures. Somehow I don't think you want that. Please get back to > me today as to your intended actions regarding this theft of my text > and pictures. > > Regards, Terry S. > > I'll post the response, if any. > Article: 322624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Chong Ong Subject: FS. Altec Lansing/Seeburg Speakers Pair - Bring to Kutztown Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:03:42 -0400 FS. Pair Altec Lansing Seeburg Speakers. Here is the link : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50597&item=5807705267 It did not get sold so I will drop the asking price. Now $800.00 Or trade for old audio tube amps and preamps. I am also looking for Western Electric Type Cardmatic Tube Testers made by Hickok. Other models needed are 1234 and USM-118B. Need cards too for them testers. No shipping on these speakers. Will bring to Kutztown Radio Show only this weekend. Will only bring speakers if deal is completed. To big to haul them up and down. Can bring speakers too to the MAARC Fall Mini radio Meet this Sunday in Burtonsville, MD. Check out www.maarc.org for more details on the meet. Thanks. Chong Ong Article: 322625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:15:51 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Mike Schultz wrote: > Looks like he got the message. Now, you should rename all the image files > on that page, and alter the page so they still display there, but not on the > auction page. > Geez....as a buyer I'd like to see what I'm actually buying rather than a bunch of pictures of someone else's radios. I don't know why that would be so difficult for a seller to comprehend. -Bill Article: 322626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <4hdWe.19$Gg1.3@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <14168-43296DCB-147@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Ever made a wall display Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:16:44 GMT The ceilings have fans. The garage ceiling has an old Hunter fan. What can I say, these have a lifetime warranty, so I figure I'll try and keep it forever. Then again if it should ever fail, it would probably be easier to buy a new one than to deal with Hunter for a replacement -- which today will mean a cheap replacement made in the Far East. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Ken G." wrote in message news:14168-43296DCB-147@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net... > Gary have you forgotten the ceiling ? > Article: 322627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1126551207.094829.21910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <_skVe.1361$1G4.186417@news20.bellglobal.com> <1126555465.696672.268910@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:19:39 GMT So the dumb question that comes to mind is, did Eeyore work on vintage radios, and did he use an isolation transformer? "Steven" wrote in message news:1126555465.696672.268910@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The Milne estate would like to differ, as they think Disney is trying > to suck the 100 Acre Woods in next to Donald Duck's house (Borg > assimilation), although that is where I first saw them. Eeyore has > always been my gloomy favorite. > Article: 322628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:17:25 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> thats what i dont get. while the petty police are gettin all worked up in their petty schemes on how to best take down this petty criminal, seems to me the best way to sabatoge the auction is to do absolutely nothing.... randy "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:K8CdnedlRo2DALTenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@giganews.com... > And why bother to include a bunch of pictures & text about radios that he > does not have for sale? The guy is a plain old nitwit, not a diabolical > geniuis. > > Fortunately, the auction page is now so confusing that I doubt anyone will > decipher what he's actually selling, much less bid on it. I had to stare > at the page for a few minutes to tell which one he has. > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 322629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:47:19 -0400 "xrongor" a écrit > thats what i dont get. while the petty police are gettin all worked up in > their petty schemes on how to best take down this petty criminal, seems to > me the best way to sabatoge the auction is to do absolutely nothing.... Copyrights and ownerships are no petty matters to me, nor to eBay. Although this seller is obviously of the dumb type, there are others more vicious sellers (read scammers) who steal pictures for obvious reasons. Let one go and they'll all think it's OK. The "do absolutely nothing attitude" is typical to a person not concerned by copyrights and intellectual rights/works. Once it happens to you, your personnal view on the subject may shift drastically. I believe Terry's "response" was the appropriate one. Syl Article: 322630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1126702394.720307.22100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126716212.831188.12620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126719774.978513.84970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <4p5We.49238$32.41006@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: FA, not mine, but nice Silvertone tombstone... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:37:38 -0400 "jim menning" wrote in message news:4p5We.49238$32.41006@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > You could easily be right, but I sure thought it looked like the one > that was on mine. How does the correct one differ? > > I wish I still had my radio to confirm one way or another, all I have > is this fuzzy picture left: > > jim menning > > Damn. I was looking at the wrong photo (confused the auction dial with Jim's photo.) Mea Culpa. My tombstone has the same pointer as Jim's. I'll go stand in the corner now. Pete Article: 322631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:50:08 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Syl" wrote in message news:JsiWe.14128$Rd5.250834@weber.videotron.net... > "xrongor" a écrit > >> thats what i dont get. while the petty police are gettin all worked up >> in >> their petty schemes on how to best take down this petty criminal, seems >> to >> me the best way to sabatoge the auction is to do absolutely nothing.... > > Copyrights and ownerships are no petty matters to me, nor to eBay. > Although this seller is obviously of the dumb type, there are others > more vicious sellers (read scammers) who steal pictures for > obvious reasons. Let one go and they'll all think it's OK. > > The "do absolutely nothing attitude" is typical to a person > not concerned by copyrights and intellectual rights/works. > > Once it happens to you, your personnal view on the subject may shift > drastically. > > I believe Terry's "response" was the appropriate one. not petty? let me demonstrate my point. lying to the people of this country and taking it to war are no petty matters to me, or to the people of this country. although our president is obviously of the dumb type, there are others more vicious people in the government (read scammers) who steal millions for obvioius reasons. let one go and they'll all think its ok... the 'do absolutely nothing' attitude is typical of a person who is not concerned with lying and cheating the people of this country. once it affects you personally, your view on the subject may shift drastically. so lets start seeing appropriate responses. randy Article: 322632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:50:18 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Backwards tube cross reference Message-ID: <4da26$4329c26d$4232bd11$4076@COQUI.NET> Does anyone know of an online source that will list tubes matching a given base diagram? TIA, Bill Article: 322633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: <9hkWe.15875$Rd5.292804@weber.videotron.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:51:31 -0400 "xrongor" a déconné sur la politique en écrivant ...sniped for brievity since it is totally Off topic... > the 'do absolutely nothing' attitude is typical of a person who is not > concerned with lying and cheating the people of this country. > randy I don't do politics in a radio and phono newsgroup. What does Bush and your politics has to do in this thread anyway ? There are more appropriate ng(s) geared toward politics, try'em. Syl Article: 322634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:52:20 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Backwards tube cross reference References: <4da26$4329c26d$4232bd11$4076@COQUI.NET> <1126811290.996770.72560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <59517$4329d0f9$4232bd11$13961@COQUI.NET> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > Just remembered something else. If you have the downloadable tdsl from > duncanamps.com, you can do a parametric search (it's under the Search > menu) and the dialog box will let you can search on a basing or a > pinout. Choose one from the dropdown and it will show all the tubes > that use it. > Ok, I'll try that. Thanks, Bill From adouglasatgis.net Sat Sep 17 12:19:05 EDT 2005 Article: 322635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Backwards tube cross reference Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:42:46 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: References: <4da26$4329c26d$4232bd11$4076@COQUI.NET> <1126814679.497051.167150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-388.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322635 Hi, The GE Tube Manual lists all tubes that use each base diagram (I realize it's not online). Alan Article: 322636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Backwards tube cross reference References: <4da26$4329c26d$4232bd11$4076@COQUI.NET> <1126814679.497051.167150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3mlWe.78996$EX.16448@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:05:03 GMT The RCA RC-29 also lists all tubes with a given basing diagram on pages 594-603. If there is a certain one you need let me know. Alan Douglas wrote: > Hi, > The GE Tube Manual lists all tubes that use each base diagram (I > realize it's not online). > > Alan From adouglasatgis.net Sat Sep 17 12:19:05 EDT 2005 Article: 322637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: "Metalite" Capacitor Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:49:25 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <1126809518.893143.4060@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-704.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322637 Hi, >My Heathkit IG-42 laboratory type signal generator has a 2 microfarad >"metalite" capacitor (Heathkit P/N 23-17). What is a "metalite" >capacitor? Sounds like a trademark but I don't remember whose. It might be a metallized paper capacitor, or metallized Mylar. If it's paper it will definitely be too leaky to use by now. Alan Article: 322638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:30:28 GMT "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." John Kerry (D-MA), 1/23/03 "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." Bill Clinton, 2/4/98 "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." Madeline Albright, 2/1/98 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), 12/16/98 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Carl Levin (D-MI), 9/19/02 "We know that (Saddam) has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore (D-MARS), 9/23/02 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Ted Kennedy (D-MA), 9/27/02 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Robert Byrd (D-KKK), 10/3/02 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Jay Rockefeller, (D-WV) 10/10/02 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Hillary Clinton, 10/10/02 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Bob Graham (D-FL), 12/8/02 So tell me, please, hacky@smokecrackey.com, who did you say was a liar? -- Mike Schultz "xrongor" wrote in message news:dgcfot$e3oj$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Syl" wrote in message > news:JsiWe.14128$Rd5.250834@weber.videotron.net... >> "xrongor" a écrit >> >>> thats what i dont get. while the petty police are gettin all worked up >>> in >>> their petty schemes on how to best take down this petty criminal, seems >>> to >>> me the best way to sabatoge the auction is to do absolutely nothing.... >> >> Copyrights and ownerships are no petty matters to me, nor to eBay. >> Although this seller is obviously of the dumb type, there are others >> more vicious sellers (read scammers) who steal pictures for >> obvious reasons. Let one go and they'll all think it's OK. >> >> The "do absolutely nothing attitude" is typical to a person >> not concerned by copyrights and intellectual rights/works. >> >> Once it happens to you, your personnal view on the subject may shift >> drastically. >> >> I believe Terry's "response" was the appropriate one. > > not petty? let me demonstrate my point. > > lying to the people of this country and taking it to war are no petty > matters to me, or to the people of this country. although our president > is obviously of the dumb type, there are others more vicious people in the > government (read scammers) who steal millions for obvioius reasons. let > one go and they'll all think its ok... > > the 'do absolutely nothing' attitude is typical of a person who is not > concerned with lying and cheating the people of this country. > > once it affects you personally, your view on the subject may shift > drastically. > > so lets start seeing appropriate responses. > > randy > Article: 322639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126702394.720307.22100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126716212.831188.12620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126719774.978513.84970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <4p5We.49238$32.41006@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: FA, not mine, but nice Silvertone tombstone... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:44:44 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:VbjWe.79949$DW1.71668@fed1read06... > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:4p5We.49238$32.41006@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> > > >> You could easily be right, but I sure thought it looked like the >> one >> that was on mine. How does the correct one differ? >> >> I wish I still had my radio to confirm one way or another, all I >> have >> is this fuzzy picture left: >> > > jim menning >> >> > > Damn. I was looking at the wrong photo (confused the auction > dial with Jim's photo.) Mea Culpa. My tombstone has the same > pointer as Jim's. I'll go stand in the corner now. > > Pete > > > No harm done. Confusion is a standard part of our daily diet around here. You've been in the corner long enough. Go on and play! jim menning Article: 322640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <71733$4328efe2$4232bd0c$28873@COQUI.NET> In "jim menning" writes: >"Bill" wrote in message >> >> Oh boy, you can have some fun. Temporarily replace those pix on >> your site with something very rude and vulgar using the same file >> names. He'll get the message. >> >> -Bill >Try the bottom one here: >http://pages.prodigy.net/kris.baker/collectibles/antifaq-pots.html Since the text of the auction page reads "THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION CAME FROM "TERRY'S ANTIQUE RADIO PAGE " that particular picture may not be the best move. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <4da26$4329c26d$4232bd11$4076@COQUI.NET> <1126811290.996770.72560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <59517$4329d0f9$4232bd11$13961@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Backwards tube cross reference Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:52:56 GMT You guys need more books, and a scanner. If Sylvania doesn't care, here are scans from " Characteristics of Sylvania Receiving Tubes" Tube Type Basing Arrangements. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/basing1.jpg http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/basing2.jpg They are about 440k each 150dpi? They print full out on a 8.5 x 11" paper. I bumped the contrast up and brightness down, fairly readable i think. Where basing diagrams standardized? It's a good catalog if you ever come across it, basing diagrams on each page of the tubes listed on that page. It cost 25c way back in the 60's? Article: 322642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures From: Ron Ramirez References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:11:22 GMT "xrongor" wrote in news:dgcfot$e3oj$1 @news3.infoave.net: (off-topic crap snipped) plonk Article: 322643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ever made a wall display Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4hdWe.19$Gg1.3@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <14168-43296DCB-147@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >The ceilings have fans. >The garage ceiling has an old Hunter fan. What can I say, these have a >lifetime warranty, so I figure I'll try and keep it forever. Then again if >it should ever fail, it would probably be easier to buy a new one than to >deal with Hunter for a replacement -- which today will mean a cheap >replacement made in the Far East. Bite your tongue. :) There are many, many, nifty old fans out there, and ceiling fans aren't as popular as desk fans. http://www.fancollectors.org -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:36:22 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Clock radio has too low plate V's? References: <1126826267.178633.243950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <75b85$432a0579$4232bdd1$28024@COQUI.NET> Porky wrote: > The radio is an RCA model C-503. The tubes are 50C5, 35W4 and you know > the rest. I've replaced the filter caps and three of the others, > although there are still a couple of waxed paper coupling caps that > seem ok and I haven't touched the IF cans which I here contain Mica > caps. Powered up, there is no sound, butt... I can get a bit of crackle > by tapping the grids of the power tube and the 12AV6's. When I do this, > volume is pretty low. The B+ is only aruond 25V. What should I do next? > > John Kogel > First, check the 35W4. -Bill Article: 322645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: WTB: Large Tube Sockets Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <0WYVe.90384$Ph4.2862922@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <1126719401.333239.50460@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <0u1We.90532$Ph4.2866303@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> In "Chris F." writes: >Here's some pics and info on a slightly more powerful version, with 833 >tubes.... >http://www.stevehv.4hv.org/VTTC3.htm >A handy use for old transmitter tubes! That is too cool! Thanks for posting the link. I've got a pair of "mood lamps" on top the bookcase made >from Eimac 450(?) (looks like a 250TL, but bigger) tubes. An 833's been sitting in a display case that I've always though would look better with the filament lit. Now that Tesla coil would be a worthy project! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432A05EF.9461591A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:37:38 GMT tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > > Both. > > I went easy on him, as you saw in my email. And his response was > marginally satisfactory, as far as I was concerned. But it was evident > that he didn't "get it" as he was not at all apologetic, nor did he > claim to not understand his mis-actions. Only "thanks for the > information.. I have added links..." etc etc etc.... > > I've given up on trying to educate the world on intellectual property > rights. It's evident that most of the world thinks that if you can > right click on a photo and grab it, or view source and copy it, then > you own it.litical debate. > > Terry. Take a look at: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/refer2.shtml You can add this simple script to the header of that web page to redirect people to another page with anything you want. I would put up a simple page stating that you do not allow direct linking to your website from E-bay auctions. Copy and paste the script from the box in the head portion of the HTML for any page you don't want hot linked. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Clock radio has too low plate V's? From: Larry References: <1126826267.178633.243950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <75b85$432a0579$4232bdd1$28024@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:52:26 -0400 Bill wrote in news:75b85$432a0579$4232bdd1$28024@COQUI.NET: > First, check the 35W4. > > -Bill > > Then check the G1-K bias on the 50C5 to see if it's drawing too much current, about the only part of the circuit that can unless the output transformer is shorted to the frame. Is the 50C5 plate red? Shorted bypass cap on cathode resistor or leaky interstage cap from driver plate. Grid 50C5 to HOT CHASSIS should be about zero VDC. The tiniest leak in the 50C5 grid coupling cap will really pull down the power supply... The 50C5 could also be leaky or internally shorted to its screen, which will cause the grid to go REAL high...usually destroying it. Swap the 35W4 for a 1KV silicon diode cathode to plate and see if the voltage comes up normal....bad 35W4. Watch the 50C5 carefully if you do this. The 35W4 only allows so much current through its internal resistance and may be protecting the 50C5. The diode is damned near a short in the forward bias. Oh, God, if digital keyboards were only THIS easy!....(c; -- Larry Article: 322648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FS. Altec Lansing/Seeburg Speakers Pair - Bring to Kutztown From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:55:33 -0400 Chong Ong wrote in news:j3gWe.10643$Ix4.9495@okepread03: > Now $800.00 > Isn't this kinda high?! I just put a brand new pair of EIGHTEEN INCH B52 roadie monsters in a church for $299 ea. from Guitar Center! They're rated at 550W RMS. Man what a sound they make! -- Larry Article: 322649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever From: Larry References: <1126551207.094829.21910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <_skVe.1361$1G4.186417@news20.bellglobal.com> <1126555465.696672.268910@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:59:42 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in news:figWe.76$Gg1.34@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: > did he use an isolation transformer? No....It's more exciting straight to the line.... When you get done there, I'll let you fool around inside my twin 4-1000A linear amp's 7KV 2A power supply. That's REAL exciting! I'll need your SSN for the insurance policy I'll be taking out on you...(c; -- Larry Article: 322650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <%eHVe.559$5n4.301@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: 1/2 D cell 1.5 ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:22:40 -0400 http://www.armyradio.com/publish/articles/Power_Up/Battery_Numbers.htm BA-3042/u "Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message news:%eHVe.559$5n4.301@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > Last weekend at the Mena swapfest I bought a military transistor testet > Model TT-22 made by Abbey Electronics, L.I. NY in 1968. It uses four > Eveready Alkaline 1/2 D cells N0. E94 1.5 volts. I've never seen or heard > of these runts before I got this thing. Google isn't much help. Any tips > or help appreciated. > > -- > > 73 > Hank WD5JFR > > Article: 322651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: FS. Zenith Wincharger - can bring to Kutztown this weekend. Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:04:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: <70ZVe.10610$Ix4.8195@okepread03> <1126725015.181645.310810@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126753469.462245.32310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 14 Sep 2005 20:04:29 -0700 "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Well, I will most likely be driving my wife's Saab 9-5 wagon. If I can >cram in the Dynaco and Scott stuff, I will bring it along. What Dynaco items are you selling? Asking prices? - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 322652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Clock radio has too low plate V's? Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:13:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1126826267.178633.243950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> On 15 Sep 2005 16:17:47 -0700 "Porky" wrote: >The radio is an RCA model C-503. The tubes are 50C5, 35W4 and you know >the rest. I've replaced the filter caps and three of the others, >although there are still a couple of waxed paper coupling caps that >seem ok and I haven't touched the IF cans which I here contain Mica >caps. Powered up, there is no sound, butt... I can get a bit of crackle >by tapping the grids of the power tube and the 12AV6's. When I do this, >volume is pretty low. The B+ is only aruond 25V. What should I do next? You're not measuring B+ to chassis are you? That's not the right place on some sets. If you're measuring it correctly, check to see how much AC there is on top of the B+ DC. If there's a lot, then there is either too little rectifier output, too much load, or a bad cap on the B+. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 322653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Half a radio References: <1126830387.457359.273760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:39:08 -0400 Stuuuuupid, and completely clueless. Ken AuroraOldRadios wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-ZENITH-RADIO_W0QQitemZ7350886008QQcategoryZ63592QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 322654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Need Schematic for Philco 42-395 References: <1126710709.281420.267850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:14:14 GMT Hello Bill, Let me know if you still need a scan and I will look into it tomorrow (Friday) evening when I get home from work. I have the Philco RMS manual for '42 and I can do my best to get a clear scan. Later, Bobby radio@bill-collins.net wrote: > I just bought a Philco 42-395 and need a schematic. The one on > Nostalgia Air will probably do, but some of the component values are > hard to read. > > Anyone have a better scan? > > Thanks. > > Bill > Article: 322655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: Backwards tube cross reference Message-ID: <432a2b44.52403484@news-server> References: <4da26$4329c26d$4232bd11$4076@COQUI.NET> <1126814679.497051.167150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:19:56 GMT On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:42:46 -0400, Alan Douglas wrote: >Hi, > The GE Tube Manual lists all tubes that use each base diagram (I >realize it's not online). > >Alan Oh but it is online... http://www.house-of-tubes.com/home/library.asp Article: 322656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1126830387.457359.273760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Half a radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:25:45 GMT Zenith 8S463 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1126830387.457359.273760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-ZENITH-RADIO_W0QQitemZ7350886008QQcategoryZ63592QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 322657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:59:01 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2d0a5$432a352a$4232bd2c$25818@COQUI.NET> BH wrote: > >> > > It is only common courtesy to *ask* permission to use something from > someone else's web site. I have had text and pictures taken from my site > by ebay seller's and by others, known on this group, who have taken > portions of a page to add to their site without asking permission. FWIW, I've had stuff taken from my website too. The classic was several complete pages translated into Chinese which I thought was pretty cool and I was tickled to be broadcast in China! I think somewhere on my site I say the stuff is free for the taking...after all, posting a hobby website on the internet shouldn't be like having to put on a uniform with a badge and stand on guard daring people to copy it. I certainly won't get bent out of shape if someone uses my material in promotion of the hobby. I'm flattered if they do. Yes, it would be courteous to ask but courtesy seems to be a scarce commodity these days. Now if you take my stuff with the goal of claiming its your own or making yourself a buck off of my efforts I'll be sorely pissed off. And thats where Terry's guy still isn't off the hook from my perspective. He could have simply posted some links to Terry's website as a route to more info instead of using Terry's actual photos to glam up his cheesy ebay offering. I think that terry's *high road* letter simply gave the scoundrel an out to continue with what remains a deceptive ad. -Bill Article: 322658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1/2 D cell 1.5 ? From: Larry References: <%eHVe.559$5n4.301@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:46:36 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in news:mfoWe.79973$DW1.35378@fed1read06: > BA-3042/u used on Multimeter AN/ USM - 223 Countermeasure set AN/SLQ - 48 GPS 5 Navstar receiver set AN/ ASN - 149 Flight line test set AN/ ALM - 154 Maintenance facility group AN/ TYA - 28 Test set MK 272 MOD 1 Howitzer medium, 155 mm M - 109 A3 Applications BUT, it's NOT a 1/2-height D cell. Nomenclature Primary ALKALINE Manganese Dioxide battery Nominal Dimensions D: 25.4 mm H: 47.63 mm Nominal Weight 68 gr Nominal Voltage 1.5 V Discharge Load 16.67 Ohm continuously until 0.9 V Cutoff Voltage 0.9 V Terminals 2 Flat Surfaces Operating Temperature Range -20...... +55oC Storage Temperature Range 0...... +20oC Typical Service Life 48 h (20oC) Shelf Life 5 years Jacket Transparent Shrink Sleeve Jacket Color Olive Drab (green) Applicable battery Spec. MIL - B - 49030 Alternative BA-42 Disposal Check with local regulations for proper disposal. BA-42 is a C-cell, methinks..... Look at the Greek webpage: http://www.sunlight.gr/industrial/pdf/BA-3042U.pdf and read all about it.... US Army Ft Gordon training manual for the: 1. TA-341()/TT. The TA 341/TT is a tactical analog telephone. a. Technical characteristics. (1) Voltage requirements. (a) Four BA-42s or BA-3042/Us. http://www.gordon.army.mil/sigbde15/31L/c01lp5.html Yep, here: http://fedcoelectronics.com/detail.tpl?SKU=AM2 Alkaline C cell...7800 maH....1.5V Sorry..... -- Larry Article: 322659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever From: Larry References: <1126551207.094829.21910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <_skVe.1361$1G4.186417@news20.bellglobal.com> <1126555465.696672.268910@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <432A10EC.BF73674E@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:56:06 -0400 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in news:432A10EC.BF73674E@earthlink.net: > Like you are the only one here who has ever been inside a high power > amp. Try playing with the HV supply for three 65 KW Klystrons. It takes > a big fork lift to move the transformers, and 100 gallons of Glycol > antifreeze. You don't even have to touch the damn thing to die. > Hmm UHF TV only has two, about 7' tall. 18.5KV on collectors from substation out back. WRJA-TV runs 4.2A visual and 1.8A aural, as I remember. FOX-24 in Charleston runs much more on theirs. Not sure how much. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR INTO THE TRANSMITTER! BOOM! SCARE YOU TO DEATH when that damned safety shorts out the HVPS.... (No, it wasn't me...(c:) One of the "former" EEOC employees was fooling around with the klystron mobile cart he wasn't supposed to be touching. He pulled the pin and flipped the two tubes around. UNFORTUNATELY, the upper tube wasn't strapped down and dropped onto the concrete floor, breaking it in half. $26K down the drain...no trades on broken tubes. I thought it was great! We took it apart and got to see the INSIDE of the big 4-cavity klystron. They fired him...quickly....before the CE could kill him! -- Larry Article: 322660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: <8OrWe.49521$32.12254@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:24:36 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:qcadnalNoa9027feRVn-og@comcast.com... > clue me in here, but WHY are you you all so upset about this? Isnt > it the > point of the website to be SEEN? Isnt this free advertising on > ebay, > sending many more eyes to the site, and possibly creating some > newbies for > collecting that genre of Zenith radio? The guy didnt HIDE where > he got > the info from, if he did I would say, "sure, the guy did you wrong". > You guys sound like a bunch of kids on a playground, going "Hey, > lets beat > up Joey... YEAH, lets all beat up Joey!" > > Whats up with this???? > I think you came in late Mark. Originally the guy didn't give any credit to where he stole the web page from, and didn't make it clear that it was anyone's report other than his own. jim menning Article: 322661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Backwards tube cross reference Message-ID: References: <4da26$4329c26d$4232bd11$4076@COQUI.NET> <1126814679.497051.167150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <432a2b44.52403484@news-server> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:45:35 GMT On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:19:56 GMT, tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) wrote: >On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:42:46 -0400, Alan Douglas >wrote: > >>Hi, >> The GE Tube Manual lists all tubes that use each base diagram (I >>realize it's not online). >> >>Alan > >Oh but it is online... http://www.house-of-tubes.com/home/library.asp That's a great site, lots of good info , thanks for the link. Phil Article: 322662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:26:57 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9hkWe.15875$Rd5.292804@weber.videotron.net> "Syl" wrote in message news:9hkWe.15875$Rd5.292804@weber.videotron.net... > "xrongor" a déconné sur la politique en écrivant > > ...sniped for brievity since it is totally Off topic... > >> the 'do absolutely nothing' attitude is typical of a person who is not >> concerned with lying and cheating the people of this country. > >> randy > > I don't do politics in a radio and phono newsgroup. > > What does Bush and your politics has to do in this thread anyway ? > > There are more appropriate ng(s) geared toward politics, try'em. well, it has as much to do with radios and phonos as ebay photo theft... but i admit. i accidentally watched too much cnn today. sry. randy Article: 322663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:37:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Mike Schultz wrote: > So tell me, please, hacky@smokecrackey.com, who did you say was a liar? > I'll take your quotes, and raise you: "Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."-VP Dick Cheney March 16th, 2003 "I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the Iraqis had nuclear weapons."-Donald Rumsfeld, June 24th, 2003 "For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue -- weapons of mass destruction -- because it was the one reason everyone could agree on."-Paul Wolfowitz, May 28th, 2003 and finally, this gem, a true blast from the past: "And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein, and why? Because Saddam 'allegedly' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a 'war criminal' or 'committing crimes against humanity' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! And speaking of poison gas . . . I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND GAS THEM." Rush Limbaugh, Nov. 3, 1988 -This will be my last OT post in this thread. -Scott Article: 322664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:57:50 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9hkWe.15875$Rd5.292804@weber.videotron.net> Message-ID: <7615c$432a5ee2$4232bd2c$11393@COQUI.NET> xrongor wrote: ... but > i admit. i accidentally watched too much cnn today. sry. > > randy I dare...double dare...any of the 24 hour news media people to do a story about how the "Sky Is Not Falling". They can't and they won't...its not in the nature of 24 hour news. randy, if you wish to initiate an OT thread I'll be happy to exchange a few OT rounds with you but let's not hijack terry's topic, okay? -Bill > > Article: 322665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:26:47 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9hkWe.15875$Rd5.292804@weber.videotron.net> <7615c$432a5ee2$4232bd2c$11393@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:7615c$432a5ee2$4232bd2c$11393@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: > > > ... but >> i admit. i accidentally watched too much cnn today. sry. >> >> randy > > I dare...double dare...any of the 24 hour news media people to do a story > about how the "Sky Is Not Falling". They can't and they won't...its not > in the nature of 24 hour news. how bout if they would simply tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth... normally i watch canadian news. its not perfect, but i find it to be much more accurate than us sources. > > randy, if you wish to initiate an OT thread I'll be happy to exchange a > few OT rounds with you but let's not hijack terry's topic, okay? i really do try to stay away from political issues on the newsgroups. sometimes im not successful. i think im doing better though... randy Article: 322666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Just finished my first re-cap job. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:30:23 GMT Having ordered some capacitor kits from justradios.com, and received them today, I decided to have a shot a re-capping an Admiral 7t10-5k1. It's a Bakelite AA5. Got all the paper caps changed, including the two safety caps. While rooting around in my junk, I found a bag with a half-dozen Tenco 40-40X150 dual electrolytics, so I popped one of them in to replace the original filter cap. The set played before, and actually played really well. After re-capping, I've got it playing, but it seems really touchy. There was motorboating down below 600 kc. Slight movement of the lead from the first IF can to the grid of the IF tube really affected the motorboating. I was able to eliminate the motorboating by carefully tweaking the IFs and the tuner trimmers, but it seems to have little sensitivity up on the high end of the AM band (and I did try try to tweak up on a station at about 1400). Being as this set has slug-tuned IF transformers, is it subject to silver-mica disease? BTW, I did try to maintain the lead dress on the replacement caps as close as possible to the original layout. Gordon Richmond Article: 322667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126813177.891573.240150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:59:31 GMT "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1126813177.891573.240150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I am in East Islip about every two months or so... with the functional > equivalent of "Lenny", as it happens and if you get my drift. He is the > nicest of people, but can most assuredly walk the walk and talk the > talk. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA This whole thing has drifted enough. Nurse, I'm going in. scalpel...suction... I'm going to NARU this drip into a permanent ban on Craigslist if you don't. Don't let publicity rob your intellectual rights! If you allow these transgressions to occur with your permission, you have surrendered your right to enforce your publisher's rights under the Berne Convention. If you allow your work to be reprinted, transcibed, performed or otherwise reproduced without a notice of permission (written or electronically assigned), you are surrendering your legal copyright protections and your work is falling into the public domain the way I see it. It seems a little thing, but if you had music, or video that was your creation, would you not protect it as much as your technical writing, which you worked hard to create and it represents your reputation as an authority on the Circle of Sound line. What if someone took all the Karsten? stories and drawings and just put them up as their own (he basically did that and some of the text alludes to the notion that he is claiming the knowledge to be his in the way he left it copied without changing person form to say otherwise)? This is the other reason the record industry fights to protect copyrights, no matter what you think. To allow material to be reprinted without endangering you property rights, you must acknowledge permission to the other party, they must give proper credit and it must be quoted properly, in context, and should not be in defamation of the author (unless the author permits it, which normally makes it a parody, and parody doesn't need permission to be created, only acknowledgement of the original copyrighted source and any royalties taken care of). I need to regain my windedness. YMMV but gas isn't cheap anymore. Article: 322668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dr. Hardcrab" References: <1122796625.861893.206790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124225388.707206.204810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1124251042.297074.41080@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126851713.016195.8570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP ME: What happened to this web site, On November 1, 2005 your world WILL CHANGE! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:56:47 GMT "Come to Paris" wrote in message news:1126851713.016195.8570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I am in a panic, I can't find this site. It has been shut down. > > Does anyone have any info on when it will be back up. I ordered the DVD > and need to see what is on the DVD. I am afraid the group got taken out > by some private or government agency and it has been all covered up. > > Now we will never know the truth. If anyone has any info please let me > know. > > Thank you, > C.P. Damn! Even the site you posted disappeared!!!! "Be afraid.....be VERY afraid.........." Article: 322669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1126830387.457359.273760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126842971.781178.79440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Half a radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:07:12 GMT I always did. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios "Steven" wrote in message news:1126842971.781178.79440@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Maybe he liked those faux bars. > Article: 322670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <1122796625.861893.206790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124211423.527926.109830@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124225388.707206.204810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1124251042.297074.41080@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126851713.016195.8570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP ME: What happened to this web site, On November 1, 2005 your world WILL CHANGE! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:10:23 -0400 "Come to Paris" wrote in message news:1126851713.016195.8570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I am in a panic, I can't find this site. It has been shut down. > > Does anyone have any info on when it will be back up. I ordered the DVD > and need to see what is on the DVD. I am afraid the group got taken out > by some private or government agency and it has been all covered up. > > Now we will never know the truth. If anyone has any info please let me > know. > > Thank you, > C.P. > The sites disappeared...... Now, what to do about your posts? They need to disappear too! C.P. Confused Psycho? You're welcome! J.M. Article: 322671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: What about a Tektronix 465 o'scope References: <1126847968.891230.8460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:02:15 GMT AuroraOldRadios wrote: > I saw one local on craigslist for $75 with a big heavy stand. Is that a > decent price if everything works? > In my opinion, yes, it is a very decent price " *if* everything works". It's a 100 MHz, dual trace, would make a very nice general shop scope (if you don't need greater bandwidth). This was the standard as used by telephone companies in the earlier ESS offices ( back when you needed a 'scope to keep an ESS office running and you had switchmen that knew how to run a scope). ;-) Good luck... Article: 322672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Message-ID: <2QyWe.24365$Zv6.6414@trndny03> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:24:30 GMT First, it appears your Cheney comment was from a Meet the Press interview with Tim Russert. Earlier in the interview Cheney said this about Saddam: "We know he's used chemical weapons. We know he's reconstituted these programs since the Gulf War. We know he's out trying once again to produce nuclear weapons and we know that he has a long-standing relationship with various terrorist groups, including the al-Qaeda organization." It is obvious from this additional quote that the "reconstitution" Cheney was refering to throughout the interview was in reference to the development programs, not the weapons themselves. Rumsfeld's statement is, therefore, accurate. Part of Limbaugh's style is to engage in occasional satirical rants. Quoting such obvious satire out of context just to take a cheap shot makes you look foolish. A lot of people, Democrats and Republicans alike, bought into the same faulty intelligence. That was the real point of my post. > -This will be my last OT post in this thread. Likewise. -- Mike Schultz "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dgdlm20bja@news4.newsguy.com... > Mike Schultz wrote: > >> So tell me, please, hacky@smokecrackey.com, who did you say was a liar? >> > > I'll take your quotes, and raise you: > > "Let's talk about the nuclear proposition for a minute. We know that based > on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding these kinds of > efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know he has been > absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. And we believe he > has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."-VP Dick Cheney March 16th, > 2003 > > "I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the > Iraqis had nuclear weapons."-Donald Rumsfeld, June 24th, 2003 > > "For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue -- weapons of mass > destruction -- because it was the one reason everyone could agree > on."-Paul Wolfowitz, May 28th, 2003 > > and finally, this gem, a true blast from the past: > > "And now the liberals want to stop President Reagan from selling chemical > warfare agents and military equipment to Saddam Hussein, and why? Because > Saddam 'allegedly' gassed a few Kurds in his own country. Mark my words. > All of this talk of Saddam Hussein being a 'war criminal' or 'committing > crimes against humanity' is the same old thing. LIBERAL HATE SPEECH! And > speaking of poison gas . . . I SAY WE ROUND UP ALL THE DRUG ADDICTS AND > GAS THEM." Rush Limbaugh, Nov. 3, 1988 > > -This will be my last OT post in this thread. > > -Scott > > Article: 322673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Ok, he's linked directly to my pictures Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3p00rlF836nuU1@individual.net> References: <1126755891.895725.208660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126784059.723336.226950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126787217.270901.305780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > clue me in here, but WHY are you you all so upset about this? Isnt it the > point of the website to be SEEN? Isnt this free advertising on ebay, > sending many more eyes to the site, and possibly creating some newbies for > collecting that genre of Zenith radio? The guy didnt HIDE where he got > the info from, if he did I would say, "sure, the guy did you wrong". > You guys sound like a bunch of kids on a playground, going "Hey, lets beat > up Joey... YEAH, lets all beat up Joey!" > > Whats up with this???? > > Mark Oppat well, besides the use of the OP's images without permission, it could cost the OP money because most webhost have a bandwith limitation. since this fool is stealing the entire webpage with all of those images, it could run well over the monthly allotted bandwidth in no time. 200 hits a day is a lot of bandwidth being used. thats getting more hits than a lot of commercial websites do. Article: 322674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1126837781.007922.86870@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Everyeady battery 67 1/2 volts Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:50:34 -0500 Message-ID: <432ace2b$0$22206$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Do you mean a 752? A 753 is a smaller AB pack and uses an octal-style socket. The 752 uses a four-pin fixed plug. > If you or anyone is interested I have the artwork for the Eveready 753 > Trans Oceanic type battery. This was scanned from a fairly good battery > case and then cleaned up with Photoshop. The images print out on two > 8.5" x 14" or two 11" x 17" sheets of card stock to fold into the outer > case since the whole stretched out case is bigger than standard size > for printers. > > Cheers, > Neil S. > Article: 322675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert McLean" References: <1126830387.457359.273760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126876037.028835.114250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Half a radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:12:54 -0400 wrote in message news:1126876037.028835.114250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > There is a genre of photography that involves taking pictures with your > thumb over the lenscap, focused on the item not of interest, with the > frame cutting off the most interesting part, etc. Obviously this guy > pursues that type of art photography quite vigorously. > > Tim. > maybe he thinks that is the most important part since that is where the sound comes out ??? Article: 322676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <1126876596.742139.114000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Old Lafayette CB--interest here? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:29:40 -0400 wrote in message news:1126876596.742139.114000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >I have an old tube type Lafayette CB (Model HB-400) on ebay. Should > that go here, or in one of the amateur radio groups? Thanks! > Try the "CB" group. CB doesn't fall under Amateur Radio. And "this" news group is for older AM - AM/FM - and other radios which "may" include SW. And then there is of course - Phono........ Rec.Radio.Swap may be a good place to go too, but some folks there are getting a bit miffed at the "e-bay" listings. And if you're going to list if as being on E-Bay, USE FA..... jm Article: 322677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Restoration of bakelite dial markings. Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:41:16 -0600 Message-ID: <24625-432AD98C-366@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: Craft stores these days sell paint pens with fine tips . I bought some for other uses but it looks like they would work great for this . You might find off white . Article: 322678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: Subject: Re: Edison Mainspring Repair Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:03:56 GMT Hi All, Just wanted to update you on the outcome of my mainspring problem. I contacted APSCO. They indicated that they had never heard of anyone being able to get access to the end of the spring at the center coil on an Edison home for they repair I was attempting. The spring is just too stiff. Based on that, I purchased a new spring from APSCO. When it arrived, I could see the huge difference in how the center coil was wound compared to mine. Mine was sprung badly. I un-bailed and installed the new spring in the housing. The center shaft engages fine now and my Home is back up and running. Thanks for all the help. Mark Article: 322679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Old Lafayette CB--interest here? Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:59:19 -0600 Message-ID: <24626-432ADDC7-114@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1126876596.742139.114000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> If its on ebay then it does not belong anywhere else . Article: 322680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Kutztown Clinic Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:08:57 -0600 Message-ID: <24625-432AE009-371@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1126870158.589577.73230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Bret .. you will find it much easier to have the speaker out of the cabinet to set it on the table with the chassis while doing tests Otherwise you will have to wrestle the chassis in or near that big cabinet and squat down . Article: 322681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: On the Binary Group: Recycle Suggestion References: Message-ID: <4qBWe.65$EA4.21@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:21:36 GMT David Stinson wrote: > I've found a use for all those "express" boxes > people get at work and then throw away. > I cut them down into "library periodical holder" > shapes and used them to sort and orgainize my > manuals and other documentation. Tat's a perfect alternative to using fileing cabinets like I do. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Seeburg HF100G Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 15:50:42 GMT I am looking for Seeburg HF100G, MRA3-L6 and WSR5-L6 documentation including electronic, electrical and mechanical. Where would one find a reputable source to purchase this information? I have a unit in need of restoration both electronically, electrically and mechanically. Thanks, Paul P. Article: 322683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Restoration of bakelite dial markings. References: <1126876521.682270.281520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126876838.291215.186820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:20:20 GMT That's almost too easy, as a matter of fact that's the first restoration tip I came up with when I bought my first radio over 35 years ago. It was an AK 20 big box and most of the white in the knobs was gone. My best friend had a little sister that was about 8 or 9 years old. On one of my next visits I notices that she had a white crayon in her crayon box. After a little coaxing my friend liberated it for me. After a little picking with the point of my pocket knife to remove the remaining white in the knobs, I just rubbed over the engraving with the white crayon, the engraving filled in nicely. I then took a paper towel and rubbed off the excess. Here we are more than 35 years later and the knobs on that first AK still look great. It works just a good on the engraving of flat radio panels, I've done many many of them including my Federal 61 and Leutz L. A white crayon, it's just that simple. Ron Article: 322684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Just finished my first re-cap job. Message-ID: References: <1126868687.485294.323000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:37:15 GMT Peter, No tube shields used in this set, AFAIK, and I don't recall seeing them commonly used in octal-tube AA5s like this. I think the only cap whose replacement was not within the 20% tolerance range of its original value was the line-to-chassis safety cap, which does live adjacent to the converter tube. As it sits, it gets stations across the band, but weakly above 1300 kc. However, there aren't many nearby stations in that range, so maybe I'm more imagining a problem. Stations from 660 to 1140 come in like gangbusters, and I have managed to tweak out the motorboating. I'll keep an eye out for a signal generator, and give it a going over once I have one. Gordon Richmond Article: 322685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Northern Electric 302 rotary phone questions Date: 16 Sep 2005 20:34:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <1126824545.769570.119480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126902159.497386.208470@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Layton Hayes" (laytonhayes@mac.com) writes: > I could not find how/where to turn the ringer on/off. The leaf > switches look good. All of the wires seem to be in fairly good > condition for the age, no part of the wire is exposed from the rubber > and cloth. The line is completely dead, no sound at all. When I call > it using my cell phone, the speaker works fine, all sound levels sound > great. Any other suggestions? > But is a wire disconnected? There would be a terminal block, and a wire with a spade lug on the end. I seem to recall disconnecting a bell at some point, and it was doable by simply unscrewing a terminal, rather than cutting a wire. Back then, it might have been common to disconnect the bell, because of the load on the line at a time when the phone company was picky about what was connected, and how much was connected. Disconnect the bell, and the phone is invisible to the phone company. Michael > > Peter Wieck wrote: >> Check and see if the ringer is not turned off. Then check the leaf >> switch (can you say PITA) for proper contact. Unless the condenser is >> dead-shorted, it should not make much difference... that is, you should >> get _something_. If it is not in place the sound will be loud and >> distorted. If too-big is in place the sound will be very soft and >> distant. Dead-short will stop the sound altogether. >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA > Article: 322686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Radio Ace (Kosmos Radiomann) radio kit Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:39:12 GMT Hmmm, didn't think a 12AU7 was a 12 volt (plate) tube. Then again, come to think of it, there are some wonderbar radios out there that use these for triggering. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:ZrqdndORD77anLbeRVn-2w@giganews.com... >> Obviously a car radio tube that runs on 12 volts > > It's a 12AU7 according to the schematic shown on the German page. > > Cute project, indeed. They were clever to give it a retro look. > > Phil > > Article: 322688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1126824545.769570.119480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126871312.172922.30400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126902159.497386.208470@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Northern Electric 302 rotary phone questions Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:12:31 -0500 Message-ID: <432b41ef$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> There's no switch for the ringer on a 302. Assuming you're working off the schematic found at atcaonline.com, the ringer wiring is wrong for today's phones. You need to pull the red ringer wire off the GND terminal and move it to L1. If the ringer works at that point, let us know and we'll start t-shooting the handset. Good luck Paul "Layton Hayes" wrote in message news:1126902159.497386.208470@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I could not find how/where to turn the ringer on/off. The leaf > switches look good. All of the wires seem to be in fairly good > condition for the age, no part of the wire is exposed from the rubber > and cloth. The line is completely dead, no sound at all. When I call > it using my cell phone, the speaker works fine, all sound levels sound > great. Any other suggestions? > > > Peter Wieck wrote: >> Check and see if the ringer is not turned off. Then check the leaf >> switch (can you say PITA) for proper contact. Unless the condenser is >> dead-shorted, it should not make much difference... that is, you should >> get _something_. If it is not in place the sound will be loud and >> distorted. If too-big is in place the sound will be very soft and >> distant. Dead-short will stop the sound altogether. >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA > Article: 322689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Just finished my first re-cap job. References: Message-ID: <3wHWe.79643$EX.62610@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:17:35 GMT How old are those dual electros? Try using new ones with clip leads across them. If that doesn't help the problem is most likely a wiring error or bad connection. Gordon Richmond wrote: > Having ordered some capacitor kits from justradios.com, and received > them today, I decided to have a shot a re-capping an Admiral 7t10-5k1. > > It's a Bakelite AA5. > > Got all the paper caps changed, including the two safety caps. While > rooting around in my junk, I found a bag with a half-dozen Tenco > 40-40X150 dual electrolytics, so I popped one of them in to replace > the original filter cap. > > The set played before, and actually played really well. After > re-capping, I've got it playing, but it seems really touchy. There was > motorboating down below 600 kc. Slight movement of the lead from the > first IF can to the grid of the IF tube really affected the > motorboating. I was able to eliminate the motorboating by carefully > tweaking the IFs and the tuner trimmers, but it seems to have little > sensitivity up on the high end of the AM band (and I did try try to > tweak up on a station at about 1400). > > Being as this set has slug-tuned IF transformers, is it subject to > silver-mica disease? > > BTW, I did try to maintain the lead dress on the replacement caps as > close as possible to the original layout. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 322690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: Subject: Re: Seeburg HF100G Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:10:01 GMT Hi Paul, As John state, get the repro manual from Victory. In the mean time, Vern Tisdale has most of the schematics (yours included) posted on his web site. Vern is also a great source for parts and other info. Hope this helps. http://www.verntisdale.com/schem/sschem.htm Mark "Paul P" wrote in message news:mRBWe.258219$5N3.85270@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > I am looking for Seeburg HF100G, MRA3-L6 and WSR5-L6 documentation including > electronic, electrical and mechanical. Where would one find a reputable > source to purchase this information? > > I have a unit in need of restoration both electronically, electrically and > mechanically. > > Thanks, > Paul P. > > Article: 322691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Radio Ace (Kosmos Radiomann) radio kit Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:17:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: Phil Nelson wrote: > Has anyone tried one of these? > > http://www.thamesandkosmos.com/products/ra/ra2.html "Radio-Ace" is the name for the US-market. > > From a discussion ("12v Plate Tubes") in rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors. > Looks like Kosmos Radiomann kits have been around for a long time. > > http://www.oldradioworld.de/radiom_e.htm > > Just curious . . . Manufactured by the original publishing company KOSMOS http://www.kosmos.de/index.htm but the "Radiomann" is hard to find. "Schnellsuche", type Radiomann and click on "suchen". Then click on the result. German amazon sells it http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002HABZ0/028-0934025-2671713 rank 555 of top sellers ;-) The tube is ECC82 (instead of EF86 in the 60s) I've seen sometimes "professional" coils on eBay to improve this new set. BTW, one of my school colleagues has built the old Radiomann in 1970. Same time I repaired my 1st desktop radio. Kind Regards, Georg Article: 322692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Driving me nuts Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:30:20 GMT All OK. I even borrowed a cap meter (Z Meter) to check values and leakage and they're all good and on value, certainly better than the originals ever were since they're to tighter tolerances than the old stuff. Guess I have to detune and get used to it. "Paul P" wrote in message news:BD4We.43617$qY1.16212@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:DOVVe.32440$%w.30257@twister.nyc.rr.com... >>I have this Silvertone 7054 (Sams folder 15) here that is playing games. >> >> At the low end of the dial (560 - 640 Khz) it whistles. Below 560 it >> putt-putts. The problem is very sensitive to proximity of hands and >> orientation of wires and parts in first 2 stages of set. >> >> The problem is the symptoms will disappear after I do something and >> reappear later. Upper end of dial is fine. Long range reception is fine >> outside of problem area of dial. >> >> I have replaced all the caps and most of the resistors (including _all_ >> of ones in the RF Amp and osc. stages) fiddled with the tuning cap >> plates, moved osc. and antenna coils around, tried different tubes, >> retuned my hands off (i.f.'s are nice and sharp, btw), etc. The problem >> will clear up for a while after one or another "fix" and then return >> later. >> >> I only have most basic tools at this time. >> >> What am I missing? >> >> Ray > > The last radio that did this to me was one that I put a too small value > Safety cap in to replace the wax/paper one that connected circuit common > to the chassis. I think it was a 0.1 uf that I replaced with a smaller > value about 0.01. When replaced with the correct value safety cap all > those problems went away and I could to an exacting alignment and not off > peak. > > Check those caps that connect line to ground and circuit common to ground. > > PP. > Article: 322693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: Question -- Jack Benny Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:15:43 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:YCHWe.647$Gg1.213@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > As many of you may know, OTRCAT is offering a special on the Jack Benny > Program -- all of them, or at least all they have in the collection. I > just received mine, which means over 400 some hours of listening to 25 > years worth of weekly programs and specials. I've already got a handful > of these shows on cassettes, and it appears every one of these is in the > collection. > > However I'm stumped on one. Many years ago while in high school English > class, I remember reading a humorous short story about a fellow who had a > phobia with banks. He nervously tried to start an account and deposit > $50, and the story ends when he accidentally withdraws and closes the > entire account that he just opened. Later I heard some vintage radio > broadcast of this story, played by Jack Benny who of course was a natural > for the part. > > I skimmed through the list of programs and didn't see it. Does anybody > know the title of this story, and would anyone possibly know when and > where it may have been broadcast? I'm thinking it might have been Lux > Radio Theatre, but don't remember. That is the plot of Stephen Leacock in his famous "Banks Rattle Me" essay. Done around the time of his "Sunshine Sketches of a Little Town". From Jack Benny and this story, I don't know. Really. -- "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 322694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1126830387.457359.273760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126876037.028835.114250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Half a radio Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:30:43 GMT Reminds me of that guy "Wilson" on Home Improvement. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Robert McLean" wrote in message news:BpAWe.4098$1G4.698399@news20.bellglobal.com... > > wrote in message > news:1126876037.028835.114250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> There is a genre of photography that involves taking pictures with your >> thumb over the lenscap, focused on the item not of interest, with the >> frame cutting off the most interesting part, etc. Obviously this guy >> pursues that type of art photography quite vigorously. >> >> Tim. >> > > maybe he thinks that is the most important part since that is where the > sound comes out ??? > > Article: 322695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <-P-dncEYlsCyxbXeRVn-rg@comcast.com> <43286FF8.423080CA@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Driving me nuts Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:35:48 GMT Tried this. Nothing. Clean as new to start with anyway. I can usually spot a dirty tuning cap by noise or cutting in/out as it is tuned. This one is nice and smooth and quiet. Maddening... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43286FF8.423080CA@earthlink.net... > Mark Oppat wrote: >> >> Also while you're there, clean the wiper contacts on the tuning caps >> using >> > 400 grit >> > sandpaper soaked in contact cleaner and sandwiched between the stator >> > assembly >> > and the wiper. >> > >> > Syl >> >> ....better yet, use a "burnishing tool" soaked in contact cleaner... GC >> used to sell this bottle of red liquid with the tool (I have had mine >> for >> years). I imagine you can get a similar tool from a hobby shop maybe, >> its >> like a nail file but much finer. I rotate the cap while working the tool >> back and forth. Works great. >> >> Mark Oppat > > It is commonly called a "relay burnishing tool". GC still makes two > sizes. Here is a like to a place that sells them online. You can also > take a piece of business card stock and cut a long thin strip. Place it > between the contacts and gently pull it out. Do this several times, till > it stops removing the oxide. I knew a number of people who did it this > way, because their tool would come up missing and they were at a jobsite > 200 miles from their shop. At one time you could buy the larger sizes > to clean the points on the distributor on your car. > > http://www.unicornelex.com/newunicorn/subcategory.php?cat=E24J02& > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 322696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <-P-dncEYlsCyxbXeRVn-rg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Driving me nuts Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:41:09 GMT Tried it. No joy. Not a lick of change. All that hasn't been changed or checked is the coils themselves. Not sure if I want to get replacements just try it. Probably cheaper to get another chassis/radio and use the best of both. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:-P-dncEYlsCyxbXeRVn-rg@comcast.com... > Also while you're there, clean the wiper contacts on the tuning caps using >> 400 grit >> sandpaper soaked in contact cleaner and sandwiched between the stator >> assembly >> and the wiper. >> >> Syl > > > ....better yet, use a "burnishing tool" soaked in contact cleaner... GC > used to sell this bottle of red liquid with the tool (I have had mine for > years). I imagine you can get a similar tool from a hobby shop maybe, its > like a nail file but much finer. I rotate the cap while working the tool > back and forth. Works great. > > Mark Oppat > > > > Article: 322697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Seeburg HF100G Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:45:36 -0600 Message-ID: <19824-432B6730-374@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: These are a super nice good sounding machine . All repair manuals are available and many nice reproduction parts from victoryglass,com or others of your choice . I restored one of these and still enjoy playing it . Article: 322698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Driving me nuts Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:20:14 GMT It's the old 6-tube one. I've aligned and misaligned it. No major change. The crazy part is how it will clear up and then return sometimes. Everything in the front end has been replaced and re-replaced except the coils and tuning cap. "Bill" wrote in message news:d4320$43282c2b$4232bd71$21251@COQUI.NET... > Rune wrote: >> I have this Silvertone 7054 (Sams folder 15) here that is playing games. >> >> At the low end of the dial (560 - 640 Khz) it whistles. Below 560 it >> putt-putts. The problem is very sensitive to proximity of hands and >> orientation of wires and parts in first 2 stages of set. >> >> I have replaced all the caps and most of the resistors (including _all_ >> of ones in the RF Amp and osc. stages) fiddled with the tuning cap >> plates, moved osc. and antenna coils around, tried different tubes, >> retuned my hands off (i.f.'s are nice and sharp, btw), etc. The problem >> will clear up for a while after one or another "fix" and then return >> later. >> >> What am I missing? > > Just a guess here. First, I'm assuming this is the 7054 with loktal (6) > tubes? There's also an AA5 type with the same model number but it has no > rf amp stage. > > Are you sure the IF aligned is to 455kc and not some other frequency? > > -Bill Article: 322699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: What about a Tektronix 465 o'scope Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:29:16 -0500 Message-ID: <88smi1511dc77sknqaef2qjinbe1a3dck6@4ax.com> References: <1126847968.891230.8460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 15 Sep 2005 22:19:28 -0700 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote: >I saw one local on craigslist for $75 with a big heavy stand. Is that a >decent price if everything works? The 465 is one of the best, and most popular, scopes Tek ever made. Even if it requires a little work it is easily worth more than $75. They are getting old now, so it may have a bad electrolytic or 2 in it. They are 100 MHz scopes, which is more than most people will ever need. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 322700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:56:44 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Just finished my first re-cap job. References: <1126868687.485294.323000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126919233.350995.218010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Bob wrote: > The line to chassis cap, > > You can get away with leaving it in, as > leakage here is of little consequence. I strongly disagree with that. Its the one place in a set where leakage will easily cause excessive heating and eventual failure - often spectacular. -Bill Article: 322701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Emud model 1211 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:12:44 -0600 Message-ID: A lady asked me to take a look at an old radio/phono she has and give here and estimate of value. When I went to see it, it turned out to be a German made Emud model 1211. Damn thing is in drop dead gorgeous condition. She is the original owner, her and her late husband bought it in 1963 while stationed in Germany. I noticed by looking at the literature that she has (she has all the original paperwork) that the receiver is an AM/FM/SW and it has a 14 tube chassis. (At least the paperwork says so, I didn't look) I fired it up and it works fine. Anybody want to take a guess at what this might be worth so I can tell her...cause I sure don't have a clue on this one. Thanks, Ben From adouglasatgis.net Sat Sep 17 12:19:20 EDT 2005 Article: 322702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Who made the first cathedral cabinet? Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:13:43 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <1126906627.689649.310040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-628.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322702 Hi, There was a "Beavertone" in 1925, if I'm thinking of the right one. It had a square panel with a semicylindrical top, so the overall shape was like a cathedral. They're very rare. Echophone at a 1932 trade show displayed a model supposedly made in November 1928, with a speaker above the chassis and a slightly arched top. I've never seen or heard of one in any collection. Clocks commonly came in cathedral-shaped cabinets, as did speakers, as already noted. So the idea was floating around, of squeezing a radio chassis in there too. Alan Article: 322703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: residue after using Formby's Furniture Refinisher From: "craig yuen" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:11:25 EDT Here are a couple pictures of a cabinet I'm working on. http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-001.jpg http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-002.jpg http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-003.jpg http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-004.jpg http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-005.jpg I've stripped the cabinet with Formby's Furniture Refinisher. The first picture shows the entire cabinet. Overall I think it looks pretty good but if you look closer, especially on the front you a lot of little dots which I think is residue from the stripper. What is the best way to clean this up, I was thinking either a harsher stripper or sanding. Thanks in advance. craig -- Article: 322704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Question -- Jack Benny References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:42:53 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > As many of you may know, OTRCAT is offering a special on the Jack Benny > Program -- all of them, or at least all they have in the collection. Ahhh, so I'm NOT the only one that bought the set. Speaking of parodies, remember the various cartoons that were made? One of the best was a Warner Brothers with the actual cast including Jack, Mary, Rochester, and Don Wilson. As mice of course. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Diane" Subject: Experimental Zenith Universal Info Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:47:02 GMT Can anyone refer me to a source for historical info on the aluminum framed Zenith Universals? I know the component setups but would like to know dates and production figures for each variation. Are they mentioned in any magazine articles or ads? What conclusions did the company arrive at regarding the performance of each? Were the lessons learned incorporated into future production? My two models are: 6G001YXZ1 and 6G001ZYX. Thanks, Phil (not Diane) Article: 322706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: somewhat off topic - worthless tools Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:37:22 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1126933344.670049.320180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "bill" wrote in message news:1126933344.670049.320180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > follow this link: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4406121360 > > that's one example of a worthless tool (in my opinion) - it happens to > be my auction, so if it gets bids, we'll know just how worthless it > really is - but certainly you guys have your own favorite worthless > tools (and, to be fair, let's omit those worthless antenna replacement > thingies that plug into the wall and don't have anyting inside them) > Will you ship it for 18 cents? :) Article: 322707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: On the Binary Group: Recycle Suggestion Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:19:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4qBWe.65$EA4.21@tornado.socal.rr.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message > news:4qBWe.65$EA4.21@tornado.socal.rr.com... > >>-- >>RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to >>the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal >>force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED >>under the Internal Security Act of 1950. > > > Gee, and I was just complaining about people sending flames. Now I suppose > it's shoot to kill! Then again, it sounds like a good way to get rid of > spammers . . . That verbage is a direct rip from signs posted around the perimeter of Area 51 in Nevada. -Scott Article: 322708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: On the Binary Group: Recycle Suggestion Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:58:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: David Stinson wrote: > I've found a use for all those "express" boxes > people get at work and then throw away. > I cut them down into "library periodical holder" > shapes and used them to sort and orgainize my > manuals and other documentation. Now, if > I want all the info I have on, say, ART-13, > I grab the boxes marked "ARC-13" and it's all > right there. Very handy. Photo on the binary group. > Dave S. If you do this with the USPS priority boxes, make DAMN sure they still have some evidence of postage on them. I will quote directly from one of the boxes I have: "This packaging is the property of the U.S. Postal Service and is provided solely for use in sending Priority Mail. Misuse may be a violation of federal law." -Scott Article: 322709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: residue after using Formby's Furniture Refinisher Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:31:14 -0600 Message-ID: <25027-432BB832-439@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: First take a not new razor blade and carfully scrape off the dots . Use the Formbys again but use towel rags to get the rest off . The stuff in the cracks & corners will actually look good left . Sanding very lightly with 220 or close ? who cares .. just enough to smooth the raised grain . Dont push hard or scrub with the sand paper . This will make the final finishes much nicer and will take nothing away >from the patina . Article: 322710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Clock radio knob shaft repair Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:39:58 -0600 Message-ID: <25027-432BBA3E-440@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: Solder on piece of old antenna to broken shaft , fill open end with solder , cut slot , install knob . Article: 322711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Question -- Jack Benny Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:17:48 GMT Buck, You are right, for sure. I think I have a copy of this essay in an old PocketBook. Maybe not. Leacock was, fittingly, de riguer in high school English classes in Canada. (if that ain't a mixed metaphor, I don't know what is) What's really neat though, is that Leacock wrote with the idea in mind of actually entertaining people, not with the idea of getting his prose embalmed in textbooks. I LIKE that. Gordon Richmond Article: 322712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Emud model 1211 References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:57:51 GMT I really like the look of these and they sound great but as Phil said they don't seem to bring much money. If I found one in that condition I think I would make room for it. I would say about $75 is a fair price. benjamaniac wrote: > A lady asked me to take a look at an old radio/phono she has and give > here and estimate of value. When I went to see it, it turned out to be a > German made Emud model 1211. Damn thing is in drop dead gorgeous condition. > She is the original owner, her and her late husband bought it in 1963 while > stationed in Germany. I noticed by looking at the literature that she has > (she has all the original paperwork) that the receiver is an AM/FM/SW and it > has a 14 tube chassis. (At least the paperwork says so, I didn't look) I > fired it up and it works fine. Anybody want to take a guess at what this > might be worth so I can tell her...cause I sure don't have a clue on this > one. > Thanks, > Ben > > Article: 322713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: residue after using Formby's Furniture Refinisher References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:03:54 GMT craig yuen wrote: > I've stripped the cabinet with Formby's Furniture Refinisher. Craig, You say above that you have "stripped the cabinet..." and the pictures show what looks like a complete strip job, so presumably, this was your goal. If you wanted to do a total strip, I would respectfully suggest that you used the wrong product. Formby's Furniture Refinisher is a "re-amalgamater", consisting of basically alcohol and lacquer thinner. It is designed to dissolve and re-flow (or re-amalgamate) an existing lacquer or shellac finish *without* removing it. It is the right product for old "alligatored" finishes. However, it *will* strip as you found out. However, you could have done that much more cheaply, quickly and efficiently by buying a can of plain lacquer thinner (for a lacquer finish) or a can of denatured alcohol (for a shellac finish) or best of all, by using a "real" stripper designed for the job. > What is the best way to clean this up, I was thinking > either a harsher stripper or sanding. I would recommend a "harsher" (real) stripper. Sanding just small portions here and there *could* show up later, depending what kind of final finish you use. In any event, it's all nasty stuff, so be sure to use plenty of ventilation. Good luck! Carter Article: 322714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432C0D58.FE4DB0BF@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Antique Radio Forum is now up Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 08:34:32 -0400 Hi Folks, Just a note to say the Antique Radio Forum at http://www.antiqueradios.com is now up and running. Great job Alan! Regards, Sal Brisindi Article: 322715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: residue after using Formby's Furniture Refinisher References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:18:54 -0400 You might have to bleach out those dark spots. Parks is a good product. Ken craig yuen wrote: > Here are a couple pictures of a cabinet I'm working on. > > http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-001.jpg > http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-002.jpg > http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-003.jpg > http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-004.jpg > http://radiohacker.org/radios/images/2005-09-14-005.jpg > > I've stripped the cabinet with Formby's Furniture Refinisher. The first picture > shows the entire cabinet. Overall I think it looks pretty good but if you > look closer, especially on the front you a lot of little dots which I think is > residue from the stripper. What is the best way to clean this up, I was thinking > either a harsher stripper or sanding. > > Thanks in advance. > > craig > -- Article: 322716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: zenith 12093 motorized chairside Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:03:48 +0200 Message-ID: <19a5a464348c1f142f94229c6a46a0ad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Boy o boy...i picked up a automatic am/2fm chairside..sitting out for trash, smellin like basement laundry room..kinda soft from time..but low and behold, am/fm functional even before caps..i need a cobra arm..and phono door...dial pointer...all my hardware is ok..press a button.starts buzzing...up pops that awesome gold cobra changer..... anybody link me to good photo, i need to see closed phono end.. jeff booth sylvania Article: 322717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Seeburg HF100G Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:35:05 GMT Does anyone know what manual should be ordered for the upper deck record changer part of this unit? These are two great sites you guys suggested. Thanks!!!! Paul. Article: 322718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Power transformer for RCA 5T8 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 11:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: <7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com> Hi, Looking for one. Where is a good source? TIA John Article: 322719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Zenith Chairside photos Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:38:11 GMT I just posted some photos of my Zenith Chairside to the binaries page. David, I hope this is what you are looking for. Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 322720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Power transformer for RCA 5T8 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:49:54 -0500 Message-ID: <9ploi1lbfiohrdfjg8lco56ksolvlam63s@4ax.com> References: <7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:30:39 -0400, "GBrown" wrote: > >Do you have the old one? Yes I do, but it has an intermittant short internal. John Article: 322721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:10:02 GMT I have rebuilt an Electrostatic tweeter for an Emud German radio. I detailed the procedure on http://www.ppinyot.com/electrostatic_tweeter.htm. I am quite pleased that the speaker was restorable back to operation. You are welcome look and critique the page. If you have any suggestions, hints or tricks to add, let me know or email me. I will of course give you credit and a link if you like. If anyone has a dead electrostatic speaker similar to this tweeter that they could spare, please let me know. I would like to experiment with repair diaphragm materials. I would of course report my findings back to you. Thanks, Paul P. 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UNITED STATES Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096 Tech Fax............. Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com Article: 322723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Power transformer for RCA 5T8 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:54:31 GMT Is there any numbers on it? I have a RCA chassis that didn't sell at Kutztown, might work. "John Bachman" wrote in message news:7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com... > Hi, > > Looking for one. Where is a good source? > > TIA > > John > Article: 322724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Date: 17 Sep 2005 14:06:06 -0500 Message-ID: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: Paul P wrote: > I have rebuilt an Electrostatic tweeter for an Emud German radio. I > detailed the procedure on > http://www.ppinyot.com/electrostatic_tweeter.htm. I am quite pleased that > the speaker was restorable back to operation. > > You are welcome look and critique the page. If you have any suggestions, > hints or tricks to add, let me know or email me. I will of course give you > credit and a link if you like. > > If anyone has a dead electrostatic speaker similar to this tweeter that they > could spare, please let me know. I would like to experiment with repair > diaphragm materials. I would of course report my findings back to you. > > Thanks, > Paul P. > > Great page! Do these edits: Change "insure" to "ensure." Fix spelling of "Dremil" Spell out "Glipt," (I'm not familiar with this - may be wrong); check spelling of Lock-Tight, Exacto. If you really want to be completely correct, at a (tm) bug to the product names. The lower space division looks awkward. I'd give the left side more space, reduce the right. If possible, make the pics bigger. For some reason that I'm not sure about, I don't have a sense of what the complete speaker looks like. Maybe needs a better photo, maybe more than one -- maybe I'm just being thick-eyed. Some edits would help throughout your web site, but overall, I like your site a lot! It's always good to get the message across that folks who are into old radios are doing _restoration_ and not _repair,_ especially if we want other people to pay us for it. The dedicated craftsmanship should be emphasized. A lot of people really resonate with that personal aspect -- in a world of Wal-Marts, I think that many Americans are actually hungry for this kind of contact. Bubba-of-the-west Article: 322725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Workbench Photos / Webcam Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:15:30 GMT I got fooling around with my old PC on my workbench and plugged a webcam into it. The result is a "live" (updated every 2 minutes) overview of my workbench. You can view it here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/webcam/ Now I just have to remember not to pick my nose while working on something. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Power transformer for RCA 5T8 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:24:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:54:31 GMT, "Robert Mozeleski" wrote: >Is there any numbers on it? I have a RCA chassis that didn't sell at Kutztown, might work. > On the transformer is stamped 80866. The Rider's documentation says SN 714. John >"John Bachman" wrote in message news:7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com... >> Hi, >> >> Looking for one. Where is a good source? >> >> TIA >> >> John >> > Article: 322727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Workbench Photos / Webcam From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:12:08 -0400 "Jon" wrote in news:mXZWe.97994$Hx4.50725@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Now I just have to remember not to pick my nose while working on > something. THAT will keep the server load to a minimum....(c; -- Larry Article: 322728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Driving me nuts - Solved! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:12:23 GMT This came closest to being the problem but with a couple of bizarre twists. Yes, it did turn out to be the circuit common to chassis cap - but not because of a wrong value or other defect. After running out of things to try I exchanged the one part that wasn't reacting when moved or touched with another new one. No joy. Then, just for the hell of it and because of a feeling, I dug an odd NOS Elmenco dipped cap I had out of the misc. bin and put it in. Bingo! It appears that a modern polyester cap, combined with the particular location at the RF Amp and Oscillator area, was causing the trouble. Putting an older style cap there made it happy again. Maybe the new caps don't form a "shield" or pass too much HF to/from the chassis? Never ran into this before but then I haven't encountered a set with such a strange component location and dress before. If you have the Sams for this unit (Set 15, Folder 31) the part involved is #12. Its location places it right at the place where the antenna coupling cap (#22) and RF Grid resistor (#24) are placed. The cap itself sits beside a tie strip smack between the RF amp and the Converter. The original installation has it running from pin 7 of the RF Amp 7F7 to the ground lug near the 14Q7. Antenna in is on Pin 6 of the 7F7 and the lead to the cap passes by it. It is either getting into the RF stage or the converter. It might be possible to make a small shield for the part if no old cap is available or to locate it to another part of the chassis but things are fine as they are and I am tired of playing with it. I just hope this helps someone else in the future. Ray "Paul P" wrote in message news:BD4We.43617$qY1.16212@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:DOVVe.32440$%w.30257@twister.nyc.rr.com... >>I have this Silvertone 7054 (Sams folder 15) here that is playing games. >> >> At the low end of the dial (560 - 640 Khz) it whistles. Below 560 it >> putt-putts. The problem is very sensitive to proximity of hands and >> orientation of wires and parts in first 2 stages of set. >> >> The problem is the symptoms will disappear after I do something and >> reappear later. Upper end of dial is fine. Long range reception is fine >> outside of problem area of dial. >> >> I have replaced all the caps and most of the resistors (including _all_ >> of ones in the RF Amp and osc. stages) fiddled with the tuning cap >> plates, moved osc. and antenna coils around, tried different tubes, >> retuned my hands off (i.f.'s are nice and sharp, btw), etc. The problem >> will clear up for a while after one or another "fix" and then return >> later. >> >> I only have most basic tools at this time. >> >> What am I missing? >> >> Ray > > The last radio that did this to me was one that I put a too small value > Safety cap in to replace the wax/paper one that connected circuit common > to the chassis. I think it was a 0.1 uf that I replaced with a smaller > value about 0.01. When replaced with the correct value safety cap all > those problems went away and I could to an exacting alignment and not off > peak. > > Check those caps that connect line to ground and circuit common to ground. > > PP. > Article: 322729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1126868687.485294.323000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126919233.350995.218010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Just finished my first re-cap job. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:22:13 GMT Check the thread "Driving Me Nuts". I had the same problem and found a strange cause - new modern type cap actually caused it. Changing it for an old style type cured it. It was the common (B-) to chassis cap. It was located at the front end of the set and doing exactly what you describe. Try putting the original back in for a test. If it works OK you have found the problem. You may be able to relocate the new cap to another part of the chassis or just leave the old one in. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Richmond" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:30 AM Subject: Just finished my first re-cap job. > Having ordered some capacitor kits from justradios.com, and received > them today, I decided to have a shot a re-capping an Admiral 7t10-5k1. > > It's a Bakelite AA5. > > Got all the paper caps changed, including the two safety caps. While > rooting around in my junk, I found a bag with a half-dozen Tenco > 40-40X150 dual electrolytics, so I popped one of them in to replace > the original filter cap. > > The set played before, and actually played really well. After > re-capping, I've got it playing, but it seems really touchy. There was > motorboating down below 600 kc. Slight movement of the lead from the > first IF can to the grid of the IF tube really affected the > motorboating. I was able to eliminate the motorboating by carefully > tweaking the IFs and the tuner trimmers, but it seems to have little > sensitivity up on the high end of the AM band (and I did try try to > tweak up on a station at about 1400). > > Being as this set has slug-tuned IF transformers, is it subject to > silver-mica disease? > > BTW, I did try to maintain the lead dress on the replacement caps as > close as possible to the original layout. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 322730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:51:42 GMT Has anyone else noticed how nice most of the early transistor radios sounded compared to those made just a few years later? My old Philcos, Trancels/Toshibas, Channel Master/Sanyo, GE, etc. sets are so nice and clear but sets made later sound pretty awful. It seems to be mainly the speakers. The output sounds (generally) much better over phones. Small radio speakers seem to have dropped in quality in the early to mid 60s. Small sets from the late 60s and early 70s sound pretty bad. Granted, there are exceptions but so many of my early units sound sooo much better than their later cousins. Even my friends notice it. I guess it got to be a cost thing as prices dropped and the importance and value of radios fell. Some brands held out despite this but so many didn't. Small GE radios started sounding poor when they started using Japanese speakers. Late 60s Panasonic pocket radios, even AM/FM ones, had the same sound as the GEs. Hong Kong sets were universally bad this way. I am talking about sets that are electrically good or restored, not deteriorated. Some just can't be made to play clearly. Small sets. Larger radios are another matter. Many of the early sets were also better in the long range and AVC departments too. I have 6 transistor sets that beat the pants off later 10 and 12 transistor jobs. Anyone else notice this? Ray Article: 322731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1126987850.419990.42730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Workbench Photos / Webcam Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:54:38 GMT wrote in message news:1126987850.419990.42730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Ooooooo..... Now we all can bitch at you because we're not seeing any > actual WORK being done. > It'll give me incentive to clean off the bench and get things done. On the bench right now is the changer from my Philco 42-1010 that needs a good clean and lube job. Once that's running smoothly, I'll turn to the chassis and beam of light pickup. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Workbench Photos / Webcam References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:30:18 GMT Jon wrote: > Now I just have to remember not to pick my nose while working > on something. Remember, it's not how you pick your nose. It's where you put the boogers. Pegboard. It's natures way of tell you that you don't have enough stuff. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: hatespam@hatespam.com (Bond) Subject: Re: On the Binary Group: Recycle Suggestion Message-ID: <432c8b57.21411800@news.houston.sbcglobal.net> References: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:33:48 GMT In case you need more ideas: http://www.fedexfurniture.com/ LL Article: 322734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:51:23 -0400 Rune wrote: > Has anyone else noticed how nice most of the early transistor radios sounded > compared to those made just a few years later? > > My old Philcos, Trancels/Toshibas, Channel Master/Sanyo, GE, etc. sets are > so nice and clear but sets made later sound pretty awful. > > It seems to be mainly the speakers. The output sounds (generally) much > better over phones. Small radio speakers seem to have dropped in quality in > the early to mid 60s. Small sets from the late 60s and early 70s sound > pretty bad. > Just how well do you expect a 2 x nothing speaker to sound? Then put the speaker in a 2 x nothing box and it sounds worse than a cheap phone. If you were to get the Theil-Small parameters on those itty-bitty speakers (there ARE ways to measure this using a sealed box of known volume, a TRUE RMS voltmeter / Ammeter good to a few khz, and a calibrated sinewave generator / amplifier that can put out a watt or so), then you could calculate the frequency response in the cabinet that the radio is mounted in. You'd probably end up with a 3db cutoff of maybe 700hz! (YECH!) I used to play with building my own speakers (mounting raw drivers in homemade boxes) so I know what the problem is. Article: 322735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <432c8b57.21411800@news.houston.sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: On the Binary Group: Recycle Suggestion Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:54:17 GMT "Bond" wrote in message news:432c8b57.21411800@news.houston.sbcglobal.net... > > In case you need more ideas: > > http://www.fedexfurniture.com/ > > LL Yeah! You'd think that FedEx would be happy that thier packaging was finally being seen as strong and able to protect things when weight was applied? NO DUCT TAPE! If I needed a structural engineer, I'd hire this guy! Article: 322736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: <%j0Xe.1329$wR4.237485@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:58:19 GMT "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:Kb0Xe.3583$g32.3388@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Rune wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed how nice most of the early transistor radios sounded > > compared to those made just a few years later? > > > > My old Philcos, Trancels/Toshibas, Channel Master/Sanyo, GE, etc. sets are > > so nice and clear but sets made later sound pretty awful. > > > > It seems to be mainly the speakers. The output sounds (generally) much > > better over phones. Small radio speakers seem to have dropped in quality in > > the early to mid 60s. Small sets from the late 60s and early 70s sound > > pretty bad. > > > Just how well do you expect a 2 x nothing speaker to sound? > Then put the speaker in a 2 x nothing box and it sounds worse than > a cheap phone. If you were to get the Theil-Small parameters on those > itty-bitty speakers (there ARE ways to measure this using a sealed box > of known volume, a TRUE RMS voltmeter / Ammeter good to a few khz, and > a calibrated sinewave generator / amplifier that can put out a watt or > so), then you could calculate the frequency response in the cabinet that > the radio is mounted in. You'd probably end up with a 3db cutoff of > maybe 700hz! (YECH!) > I used to play with building my own speakers (mounting raw drivers in > homemade boxes) so I know what the problem is. Aw, gee Ken it's a Pioneer and says HIGH FIDELITY and I didn't think it was that bad...no jiggy bass, of course :-0 Article: 322737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: <3l0Xe.1330$wR4.237133@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:59:27 GMT "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:Kb0Xe.3583$g32.3388@bignews1.bellsouth.net... (mounting raw drivers in homemade boxes) so I know what the problem is. I don't build them, I reuse them. Wikked, nasty fun. Article: 322738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Workbench Photos / Webcam References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:27:06 -0400 Big Brothers are watching.....Ken Jon wrote: > I got fooling around with my old PC on my workbench and plugged a webcam > into it. The result is a "live" (updated every 2 minutes) overview of my > workbench. You can view it here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/webcam/ > > Now I just have to remember not to pick my nose while working on something. > > Article: 322739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy" References: <1126933344.670049.320180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: somewhat off topic - worthless tools Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:36:29 -0500 Message-ID: <432cabee_4@news1.prserv.net> Hey, I've got one of those somewhere, and it was useful before speed controlled drills came around. It is SUPPOSED to be a 3:1 reduction drive when you hold the sleeve, and free wheel (no drive power) when not held. Yours is likely frozen up with rust. Mine may be also, since I haven't seen it since I got a variable speed drill about 30 years ago. -- Crazy George "bill" wrote in message news:1126933344.670049.320180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > follow this link: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4406121360 > > that's one example of a worthless tool (in my opinion) - it happens to > be my auction, so if it gets bids, we'll know just how worthless it > really is - but certainly you guys have your own favorite worthless > tools (and, to be fair, let's omit those worthless antenna replacement > thingies that plug into the wall and don't have anyting inside them) > > bill > Article: 322740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Date: 17 Sep 2005 19:23:02 -0500 Message-ID: <432cb2e2$0$224$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: Rune wrote: > Has anyone else noticed how nice most of the early transistor radios sounded > compared to those made just a few years later? > > My old Philcos, Trancels/Toshibas, Channel Master/Sanyo, GE, etc. sets are > so nice and clear but sets made later sound pretty awful. > > It seems to be mainly the speakers. The output sounds (generally) much > better over phones. Small radio speakers seem to have dropped in quality in > the early to mid 60s. Small sets from the late 60s and early 70s sound > pretty bad. > > Granted, there are exceptions but so many of my early units sound sooo much > better than their later cousins. Even my friends notice it. > > I guess it got to be a cost thing as prices dropped and the importance and > value of radios fell. > > Some brands held out despite this but so many didn't. Small GE radios > started sounding poor when they started using Japanese speakers. Late 60s > Panasonic pocket radios, even AM/FM ones, had the same sound as the GEs. > Hong Kong sets were universally bad this way. > > I am talking about sets that are electrically good or restored, not > deteriorated. Some just can't be made to play clearly. Small sets. Larger > radios are another matter. > > Many of the early sets were also better in the long range and AVC > departments too. I have 6 transistor sets that beat the pants off later 10 > and 12 transistor jobs. > > Anyone else notice this? > > Ray > Yes. There's a pattern that I've seen repeatedly. The first transistor portables were very expensive. I remember them as well-designed and good performers. As the prices came down, design became more haphazard; smaller, tinnier radios joined the mix. I've seen this, in particular, in the Sony brand, because they try to be the first kid on the block with a new concept. At first, the products are solid, hefty, and reliable. Later, their quality is average (or worse). I recently bought a CD clock radio from "RCA" (Thomson). It's got small speakers, but they're nicely baffled so that over their limited range, the sound is quite smooth. Almost all the CD clock radios sounded garish and harsh by comparison. The price was pretty high. It uses a ratty cheapo CD drive, which I learned will only perform properly with perfectly-made CDs. The Sony CDRs that I attempted to use in it wobble visibly, and the unit skips. Bubba Article: 322741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1126824545.769570.119480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126871312.172922.30400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126902159.497386.208470@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <432b41ef$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> <1127002046.794070.314420@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1127003088.521102.226850@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1127003307.726560.98970@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Northern Electric 302 rotary phone questions Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: <432cbac6$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> "Layton Hayes" wrote in message news:1127003307.726560.98970@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Correction #2: here is the REAL link: > http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/images/WE-302BW_DW.jpg Yes, that is the way I intended for you to wire the ringer. :-) Now the handset. Take the caps off the handset receiver and mouthpiece and remove the elements. If you didn't already, clean the contacts on the back of the HA1 speaker. Now look in the earpiece end of the handset; you'll see two contacts. You may or may not see two wires attached to the contacts. In early versions of this handset, the wires were molded into the Bakelite; in later versions a hole was molded through the length of the handset and wires run up through it. Either way, the red wire ought to be connected to the left contact and the white wire to the right contact as you hold the handset upright. Use your ohmmeter to verify continuity from the left contact in the earpiece end of the handset all the way to terminal R on the coil. Then do the same >from the right contact in the earpiece end of the handset down to terminal W on the back of the dial. Also verify you do *not* have continuity between terminal BK on the dial and C on the coil; that would indicate a shorted 2uF cap but I don't think that's your problem. Run these tests and get back to us Good luck Paul Article: 322742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Cleaning plastic knobs from around 1950 References: <1127003002.396002.264650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 01:29:22 GMT I had a similar problem with one of my transoceanics. I soaked the knobs in Mr Clean for a few days, and the paint rubbed right off. Ammonia works too, just takes a little longer. nesesu wrote: > I am restoring a Silvertone TO type portable from around 1950 and it > appears to have resided in a auto body shop for a while. The set has > had auto primer overspray drift down on it for some time and all the > top surfaces are covered by a fair dusting of this dark grey. The > plastic parts such as the suitcase handle on the top as well as the > Volume, Tuning and Band-switch knobs on the front are made from a > slightly flexable plastic which seems to have a surface 'skin'. I am > wondering what type of plastic it is and what solvents can safely be > used to soften and remove the paint dust without damaging [melting] the > plastic. The solvents in Novus 2 did a fair job on the large suitcase > handle areas, but it is not so effective on all the grooving of the > knobs. > > Suggestions? > > Neil S. > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com From kawninja.at.nospam.cableone.dot.net Mon Sep 19 09:31:09 EDT 2005 Article: 322743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Strange antique phonograph program on shortwave Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:08:59 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11ipj1pgcodp6c0@corp.supernews.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 14 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news.glorb.com!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-12!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322743 Hi all, Was playing with my new Grundig S350 shortwave radio this evening and heard a rather strange program on WBCQ "The Planet" 7.415 MHz around 8:45pm CDT this evening called "Marion's Attic" talking about Victrolas and playing 78s. Also advertised a service called "Antique Victrola Repair" and gave a phone number. Sounded like they were playing actual 78s on a Victrola with all the hiss, skip, and pop you'd expect. Announcer sounded like a guy playing the role of an old lady with a high voice. Went off the air at 9:00pm CDT. Steve P. Article: 322744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432CCD8E.8000300@verizon.net> From: DaveW Subject: Re: zenith 12093 motorized chairside References: <19a5a464348c1f142f94229c6a46a0ad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:14:02 GMT 40zeffer wrote: > Boy o boy...i picked up a automatic am/2fm > chairside..sitting out for trash, smellin like basement laundry > room..kinda soft from time..but low and behold, am/fm functional even > before caps..i need a cobra arm..and phono door...dial pointer...all my > hardware is ok..press a button.starts buzzing...up pops that awesome gold > cobra changer..... > anybody link me to good photo, i need to see closed phono end.. > > jeff booth > sylvania > I have a cobra changer somewhere around here. Yours free for the shipping. It's not gold, but "putty" as I recall part of a tabletop radio/phono. Email me at spsffan at verizon dot com. Regards, DAve Article: 322745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432CCD9B.6030708@verizon.net> From: DaveW Subject: Re: zenith 12093 motorized chairside References: <19a5a464348c1f142f94229c6a46a0ad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:14:14 GMT 40zeffer wrote: > Boy o boy...i picked up a automatic am/2fm > chairside..sitting out for trash, smellin like basement laundry > room..kinda soft from time..but low and behold, am/fm functional even > before caps..i need a cobra arm..and phono door...dial pointer...all my > hardware is ok..press a button.starts buzzing...up pops that awesome gold > cobra changer..... > anybody link me to good photo, i need to see closed phono end.. > > jeff booth > sylvania > I have a cobra changer somewhere around here. Yours free for the shipping. It's not gold, but "putty" as I recall part of a tabletop radio/phono. Email me at spsffan at verizon dot com. Regards, DAve Article: 322746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: zenith 12093 motorized chairside References: <19a5a464348c1f142f94229c6a46a0ad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:14:53 GMT 40zeffer wrote: > Boy o boy...i picked up a automatic am/2fm > chairside..sitting out for trash, smellin like basement laundry > room..kinda soft from time..but low and behold, am/fm functional even > before caps..i need a cobra arm..and phono door...dial pointer...all my > hardware is ok..press a button.starts buzzing...up pops that awesome gold > cobra changer..... > anybody link me to good photo, i need to see closed phono end.. > > jeff booth > sylvania > I have a cobra changer somewhere around here. Yours free for the shipping. It's not gold, but "putty" as I recall part of a tabletop radio/phono. Email me at spsffan at verizon dot com. Regards, DAve From kawninja.at.nospam.cableone.dot.net Mon Sep 19 09:31:10 EDT 2005 Article: 322747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Kutztown Acquisitions & Clinic Report Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:27:34 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11ipk4kgs93ied9@corp.supernews.com> References: <1127002137.716655.299310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1127005942.710194.148820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 12 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322747 My finds today were a Sony U-Matic video player for $30 and a very early 80s huge JVC camcorder in original case and all of the accessories for $7. Someday I gotta narrow my hobbies down... ;-) Steve P. "Steven" wrote in message news:1127005942.710194.148820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Congratulations, especially on the stereophones! Article: 322748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:18:21 GMT Bubba, Thank you for identifying the miss spelling errors. I can read my mistakes over and over and never catch them. I will take your other suggestions too. If you click on the pictures they expand. Those are thumb nails. So I will label them as such. Did you click on the pictures? Thanks, Paul. > Great page! > > Do these edits: > Change "insure" to "ensure." > Fix spelling of "Dremil" > Spell out "Glipt," (I'm not familiar with this - may be wrong); check > spelling of Lock-Tight, Exacto. If you really want to be completely > correct, at a (tm) bug to the product names. > > The lower space division looks awkward. I'd give the left side more space, > reduce the right. If possible, make the pics bigger. > > For some reason that I'm not sure about, I don't have a sense of what the > complete speaker looks like. Maybe needs a better photo, maybe more than > one -- maybe I'm just being thick-eyed. > > Some edits would help throughout your web site, but overall, I like your > site a lot! It's always good to get the message across that folks who are > into old radios are doing _restoration_ and not _repair,_ especially if we > want other people to pay us for it. The dedicated craftsmanship should be > emphasized. A lot of people really resonate with that personal aspect -- > in a world of Wal-Marts, I think that many Americans are actually hungry > for this kind of contact. > > Bubba-of-the-west Article: 322749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1127006367.216340.57540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:19:02 GMT Noted! Thanks, Paul. "Steven" wrote in message news:1127006367.216340.57540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Loctite > > X-Acto > > Wal-Mart should be spelled "convenience store" > Article: 322750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1127008552.434631.246430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:34:03 GMT I had 18 or so in my Sharp multiband with FM...I wonder if...yeah, I'll bet they were working hard all 18. : ) Nice set. "michaeljpro" wrote in message news:1127008552.434631.246430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >>Has anyone else noticed how nice most of the early transistor radios sounded compared to those made just a few years later? >> > > I've noticed this as well. I recently bought a Sony TR-72 and it truly > sounds as nice as some of my smaller tube sets. Most Sonys sound very > good. The Zenith Royal 500's were great as well. Also liked the Emerson > 888 series for tone and overall performance. By 1963 and 64 the market > got so competitive quality certainly suffered. I recently bought a new > Sony AM/FM pocket radio model #ICFS10MK2 which has very good tone. > > >>Many of the early sets were also better in the long range and AVC > departments too. I have 6 transistor sets that beat the pants off later > 10 > and 12 transistor jobs. >> > > Some of the larger numbered transistor sets in the mid to late sixties > may have boasted a high number of transistors but may have only > operated on six. The rest were glued on the chassis to "wow" the > consumer who believed more is better. > Article: 322751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: schliemen@webtv.net Subject: Re: Strange antique phonograph program on shortwave Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:25:00 -0400 Message-ID: <9046-432CDE0C-168@storefull-3135.bay.webtv.net> References: <11ipj1pgcodp6c0@corp.supernews.com> marion has been on at least for several years now.they often talk about old radios with the green eye and also ask the listener if they have her all tuned in.i listen my self weekly on my philco 16b tombstone and turn up the sound ! Article: 322752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1127002137.716655.299310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1127005942.710194.148820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11ipk4kgs93ied9@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Kutztown Acquisitions & Clinic Report Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:35:18 GMT "Steve P." wrote in message news:11ipk4kgs93ied9@corp.supernews.com... > My finds today were a Sony U-Matic video player for $30 and a very early 80s > huge JVC camcorder in original case and all of the accessories for $7. > Someday I gotta narrow my hobbies down... ;-) > > Steve P. > > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1127005942.710194.148820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Congratulations, especially on the stereophones! > > Article: 322753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432CE5D1.3644450E@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Kutztown Acquisitions & Clinic Report References: <1127002137.716655.299310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:58:10 -0400 Good to see you at the swap meet Peter and thanks for the radio. Regards, Sal Article: 322754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Kutztown Report Message-ID: <5O5Xe.98049$Hx4.19367@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:11:45 GMT Im home, and about to be off to bed... Another Banner show!!! Although I didnt try to drum up restoration candidates this time there were still more than I could bring home! I even stuffed 2 very reasonably priced Victrola VV X's into the VW this time... no Im not getting away from Radios but every now and again I need a breif change of pace and the price couldnt be passed up. More nice higher end stuff needing work at very reasonable prices, Some interesting smaller stuff and I even bought a 9-S-367 that although it needs a couple things, is ripe for restoration. Another nice casual atmosphere, great food not only next to the pavilion, but drinks being delivered right to us! Peter was hard at work Saturday at the tech bench... STEADY walk though both days and a good gathering for the auction. The sellers I was with reported excellent sales on just "general" stuff, they were nearly cleaned out! What Im seeing at this event is alot of new collectors that are buying up what we regulars all have extras of... equiptment and some of the lower end but interesting plastic sets and such. Its great to see this stuff go for a few bucks than in the trash can, you gotta start somewhere and what better than a nice stylish 50's clock radio or such? There are GREAT deals to be had if you look carefully too... knobs, controls, dial scales, parts.... things that you never thought youd see that cheap again... they are there in some of the vendors lots :) Next spring, for the first time in my life, Im BRINGING STUFF! John H. probably knew this day was coming but there are (a few) things that I (May) never get to and moving some of the plastic sets out of the basements makes room for more wooden stuff and if folks are willing to give me $5 for it Ill bring it down! Maybe get those plastic 60's TV's out too.... and if it doesnt sell Ill donate it to the auction. It looked like very few things went unsold. The Auction also had some great deals, heck... FANTASTIC deals! Well worth staying for! Those German Grundig's and such are going to be a fad someday and are the most underappreciated sets out there right now in my opinion. Great seeing and meeting everyone! I have no plans to miss any future Kutztown events! and BOY! do I need to get busy this winter.... Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Sep 19 09:31:11 EDT 2005 Article: 322755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 16 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:38:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1127018294 66.65.49.245 (Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:38:14 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:38:14 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322755 In article <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Paul P wrote: > If you click on the pictures they expand. Those are thumb nails. So I will > label them as such. Did you click on the pictures? > Thanks Paul!! I bookmarked your page. HOpefully I never have to do this, but if if the situation arises....it'll be much better to repair the existing part than to attempt to bodge a modern replacement in there. P.S. Is that towel from Harrah's Casino & Hotels? ;) ;) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Sep 19 09:31:12 EDT 2005 Article: 322756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Emud model 1211 References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 47 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:55:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1127019342 66.65.49.245 (Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:55:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:55:42 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322756 In article , Art's Antique Radios wrote: > I used to tell folks to donate them to Salvation Army > > Now even they wont accept them When I was a teenager in the late 89s/early 90s, the big Salvation Army and the Goodwill thrifties in Long Island City would frequently get these hi-fi consoles (both solid-state and tube chassis). Sometimes even these European hi-fi sets would come in, with huge back-lit glass dials full of radio station names I would always drool and lust over them (even though in retrospect, some were like, 1970s type lame-o stuff but they still had a nice loud sound). The pricetags -- $40 or $50, obviously placed them out of reach for a car-less, poor kid (my mom wasn't about to kill forty dollars worth of grocery money so I could buy another old clunker). So I'd spend sometimes up to a half hour in the store, playing with the things and listening to them, until one of the recovering potheads who worked in the store would say "ok kid, don't be playing with the radios" and sort of throw me out of the store. How embarrasing is that, to be thrown out of a thrifties? :-p In 1998, my spouse and I went 50/50 on a $60 hi-fi Stromberg Carlson I had seen one Friday at that very same thriftstore (on my way back home from work). I dragged him out there that very same weekend and he instantly fell in love with it. We ended up dragging it home in the trunk of my mom's battered station wagon. The sound was (and will be, once the electronics are refurbished) to die for. Two way speakers in acoustically sealed enclosures inside the cabinet. Separate tuners for MW and FM (plus a magic eye for the FM). It's a pity that it's not worth much as a financial asset, but damn it sounds so nice. I think every radio collector should have at least ONE good hi-fi console radio if they can afford the space. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 322757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: zenith 12093 motorized chairside References: <19a5a464348c1f142f94229c6a46a0ad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Message-ID: <%U6Xe.1850$fb6.1241@trnddc08> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 05:27:23 GMT DaveW wrote: > 40zeffer wrote: > >> Boy o boy...i picked up a automatic am/2fm >> chairside..sitting out for trash, smellin like basement laundry >> room..kinda soft from time..but low and behold, am/fm functional even >> before caps..i need a cobra arm..and phono door...dial pointer...all my >> hardware is ok..press a button.starts buzzing...up pops that awesome gold >> cobra changer..... >> anybody link me to good photo, i need to see closed phono end.. >> >> jeff booth >> sylvania >> > > > > I have a cobra changer somewhere around here. Yours free for the > shipping. It's not gold, but "putty" as I recall part of a tabletop > radio/phono. > > Email me at spsffan at verizon dot com. > > Regards, > > DAve No, I have no idea why this posted three times. Verizon brainfart, I guess. DAve Article: 322758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" Subject: Unusual Zenith portable Message-ID: <9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 06:03:49 GMT I just picked up what looks like a Zenith Royal 41 portable AM radio. The unusual thing is that instead of Royal 41 it says Royal 500. Maybe this was the preceding unit.......I don't know. When I removed the back panel, the transistor lineup appears the same as the Royal 41 in that it does have an RF amplifier ahead of the mixer. I need to free up the frozen tuning knob and give the unit a general clean-up, but it looks hopeful. Pete Article: 322759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432D0976.80B4AA59@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Unusual Zenith portable References: <9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 06:30:23 GMT Pete KE9OA wrote: > > I just picked up what looks like a Zenith Royal 41 portable AM radio. The > unusual thing is that instead of Royal 41 it says Royal 500. Maybe this was > the preceding unit.......I don't know. When I removed the back panel, the > transistor lineup appears the same as the Royal 41 in that it does have an > RF amplifier ahead of the mixer. > I need to free up the frozen tuning knob and give the unit a general > clean-up, but it looks hopeful. > > Pete H. W. Sams list 16 Zenith Royal 500 models. They are covered in: TSM-33 TSM-40 TSM-75 along with regular Sams Photofacts 326-14 422-17 566-17 592-13 I have the three TSM manuals, if you need any of them. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <432D0976.80B4AA59@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Unusual Zenith portable Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 06:54:09 GMT Thanks Michael, This is the first time I ever saw one that had the slide rule dial. I've got a JPEG of the Royal 41 and this radio looks exactly like that one. I'll let you know how it works out. This was my favorite Zenith portable when I was a kid. On another note, one of the folks at the hamfest had the 4-band model that had the 3-gang tuning condenser. He was looking for 40 dollars, which wasn't a bad deal. I tried it out on the MW band and it was pretty good, but the SW sensitivity was down a bit. It might need an RF alignment on the upper bands. Pete "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:432D0976.80B4AA59@earthlink.net... > Pete KE9OA wrote: >> >> I just picked up what looks like a Zenith Royal 41 portable AM radio. The >> unusual thing is that instead of Royal 41 it says Royal 500. Maybe this >> was >> the preceding unit.......I don't know. When I removed the back panel, the >> transistor lineup appears the same as the Royal 41 in that it does have >> an >> RF amplifier ahead of the mixer. >> I need to free up the frozen tuning knob and give the unit a general >> clean-up, but it looks hopeful. >> >> Pete > > H. W. Sams list 16 Zenith Royal 500 models. > > They are covered in: > TSM-33 > TSM-40 > TSM-75 > along with regular Sams Photofacts > 326-14 > 422-17 > 566-17 > 592-13 > > I have the three TSM manuals, if you need any of them. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 322761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:03:45 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Just finished my first re-cap job. References: <1126868687.485294.323000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126919233.350995.218010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <164pi1hfggvrvevc1ujo9aoddbj5m3kcmi@4ax.com> <64upi1dtcsk7vri8sid99chdvekiaoo8n6@4ax.com> Message-ID: Gordon Richmond wrote: > Follow-up. > > You nailed it, Ray. > > The original line-to-chassis cap was an Aerovox 0.2 uF, 200 VDC paper > cap. Wanting to be a good safe Boy Scout, I'd replaced it with the > largest Y2 class safety cap in the kit I'd purchased, one rated at > .047 uF. > > With the radio on, and motorboating, I used a clip to temporarily > bridge the old cap across the new one. Motorboating stopped, and the > general level of background noise diminished noticeably. > > I had clipped one lead pretty short on the old cap, so I didn't want > to solder to it. I dug in my junkbox, and came up with an old > ceramic-cased Elmenco 0.1 uF, 600VDC cap. I installed that in the > radio, in the original location. Motorboating cured! > > I determined that the reason I wasn't getting much action on the upper > end of the band was that tuning linearity was so out to lunch that I > was getting WWV at 1600 on the dial. Really. I tweaked up the > oscillator trimmer, and things are much, much better. I'm now getting > stations in Washington state, California, and Mexico at the top end of > the dial, and stations at the low end are right on the mark for > linearity. (I'm in Alberta, by the way.)Top end is pretty darn close. > No whistles, no motorboating. >> > Thanks again, Ray for giving me the answer to the problem. > > Gordon Richmond Allow me to add to this. I recently worked on a Philco set that used the cap with the coil wrapped around it (resonant). I replaced it with a plain mylar...I think it was a 0,2 in this case....and met the same symptoms. I had a particularly difficult time finding the 455 peak on the IF xfmrs and although the set would peak up 'pretty ok' and hear plenty of stations my sig gen was telling me 320kc ... or 640kc. I couldn't really discern which (harmonics). I put the old cap back to calm the thing down to where I could work on it and hear something besides squealing on the low end. Not being able to find a 455 peak, I dug into the xfmrs with my trusty L/C meter looking for problems and 'preset' them to 455-ish before reinstallation. Then it was an easy task to find the true 455 peak. After doing that, and retrimming everything else accordingly, I put the new mylar back in place and it was as solid as a rock. Didn't need the old cap. Thats why I asked before if you were sure you had it peaked on 455 instead of somewhere else. In my case, 455 was found at a 'too narrow' spot up waaay at the top end of the trimmer range. I had been tuning the darn things in the range of 580 (yeah, I heard a local 580 station like a trf radio!) and 640, etc. That is guaranteed to create regenerative feedback as you tune the low end.! Most IF cans simply won't allow you to run so far away from 455. Anyhoo...the key in my case was getting the IF where it was supposed to be. Then the vagaraties of the cap made no difference. -Bill Article: 322762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:13:16 GMT Thanks Paul for debunking the electrostatic speaker! Along with Phil's great site that explains recapping, your site brings hope to many that are in a dilemma of fixing an electrostatic speaker. Before you placed your site, about the only hope of fixing an electrostatic speaker, was taking it off and sending it to Holland for repair. A VERY BIG THANKS Omer P.S. Please post your site on RMorg "Paul P" wrote in message news:K5YWe.264382$5N3.100956@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >I have rebuilt an Electrostatic tweeter for an Emud German radio. I >detailed the procedure on http://www.ppinyot.com/electrostatic_tweeter.htm. >I am quite pleased that the speaker was restorable back to operation. > > You are welcome look and critique the page. If you have any suggestions, > hints or tricks to add, let me know or email me. I will of course give > you credit and a link if you like. > > If anyone has a dead electrostatic speaker similar to this tweeter that > they could spare, please let me know. I would like to experiment with > repair diaphragm materials. I would of course report my findings back to > you. > > Thanks, > Paul P. > Article: 322763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Just finished my first re-cap job. Message-ID: References: <1126868687.485294.323000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126919233.350995.218010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <164pi1hfggvrvevc1ujo9aoddbj5m3kcmi@4ax.com> <64upi1dtcsk7vri8sid99chdvekiaoo8n6@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:24:06 GMT Bill, I don't own a signal generator, so I will have to leave the alignment as it is for now. But the radio is performing fine, as far as I can tell. The line-to-ground cap here was not a resonant cap as far as I can tell. Just a typical yellow Aerovox cap; no wire coil or any special markings. Gordon Richmond Article: 322764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Recapping another one now... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 08:42:11 GMT Encouraged by the success of the re-cap job on my Admiral AA5, thanks to the help of folks here, I dug into my little RCA M45. It's a wood table model AC set. Flipped the chassis upside down, and the first thing I discovered was the 5Y4 rectifier and 6K6 audio output tubes were in swapped in their sockets. This one has had a number of capacitors replaced in the past, notably the 6K6 cathode bypass cap, and a cap from the plate to cathode of the same tube (negative feedback?) I replaced all the electrolytics with new axial-lead ones under the chassis, leaving the old filter can (unconnected) for appearance's sake. I took a chance, and powered it up, and woo-hoo!, it gets a number of stations on the MW band, with very little hum, but both the volume control and tuning cap are noisy. Some cleaning is in order. It's also going to need the grommets that support the tuning capacitor replaced. They are right crisp, and the tuning capacitor is sort of loose as a result. I'll go ahead and replace all the rest of the paper caps anyway. I've already replaced the coupling cap between the 6K6 grid and the plate of the detector tube. Most of the paper caps in this set are very crude looking kraft paper tubes, dark brown, with only very brief markings on them. Lesson learned: being as this radio now plays, I'll fire it up after each cap is replaced, to ensure that I haven't inadvertently created a fault in the course of replacing each cap. I'm enjoying myself with this. Gordon Richmond Article: 322765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: residue after using Formby's Furniture Refinisher References: From: "craig yuen" Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:01:15 EDT Ken writes: >You might have to bleach out those dark spots. Parks is a good product. Ken > Thanks to all for the suggestions. I forgot to mention that a previous owner had tried to cover areas on the cabinet where the finish had worn off with gold spraypaint. This is why I had to strip the cabinet down to bare wood. I think I'm going to try the scraping method first, I had done this on a table radio a while back and was pleased with the results. Hopefully I finish this cabinet before the cold weather arrives and will post some after pictures. Thanks again. Craig Article: 322766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Power transformer for RCA 5T8 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:49:08 GMT The numbers on this one are.... 873083. Radio model is 97K2, look that up in the schematic and see if this transformer will work. 9Q6E, 351 K are numbers stamped on the back of the chassis. "John Bachman" wrote in message news:touoi1pa5gi82efnmb05htfsdkbfi2oass@4ax.com... > On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:54:31 GMT, "Robert Mozeleski" > wrote: > >>Is there any numbers on it? I have a RCA chassis that didn't sell at Kutztown, might work. >> > On the transformer is stamped 80866. The Rider's documentation says > SN 714. > > John > > >>"John Bachman" wrote in message >>news:7ehoi110rt6qerusdb6o14eh3400cgqjs7@4ax.com... >>> Hi, >>> >>> Looking for one. Where is a good source? >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> John >>> >> > Article: 322767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: zenith 12093 motorized chairside References: <19a5a464348c1f142f94229c6a46a0ad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <%U6Xe.1850$fb6.1241@trnddc08> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:57:46 GMT DaveW wrote: > No, I have no idea why this posted three times. Heh, I just figured you had THREE of them. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:38:12 -0600 Message-ID: <24626-432D89E4-226@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: As a kid and up through the years i owned and fixed thousands of transistor radios . Your topic is interesting because i always liked the best sounding radios .. best sounding as in a nice deep rich tone . I have to say there were only the few that had that real good sound . American made , japan made alike had their good ones . Funny those cheap mass produced early 70`s pocket radios with the name `Nobility` on them which had the no transformer amplifiers many of them had real good rich sound . I remember holding them to my ear at low volume .. they had deep bass believe it or not ! Going onto the bigger than pocket size but cheaper AM only sets i remember Zenith had a few models that had bass sound . A funny brand ``Wendel West`` also had great bass sound . Sony and Elgin had there share of good sound . Later 70`s it seems they stopped caring Article: 322769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: popping sound when mute contacts are engaged Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:39:40 -0600 Message-ID: <24626-432D8A3C-227@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: Can you try a very small capacitor across the points Article: 322770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Cleaning plastic knobs from around 1950 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:55:29 -0600 Message-ID: <15189-432D8DF1-571@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1127017334.567182.290600@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Dont rule out Westleys Bleech Wite . I have found this stuff great for many tough cleanings . Its hard on the hands though . Article: 322771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question References: <1127008552.434631.246430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 12:06:32 -0400 > > Some of the larger numbered transistor sets in the mid to late sixties > may have boasted a high number of transistors but may have only > operated on six. The rest were glued on the chassis to "wow" the > consumer who believed more is better. > Some old tube radios did similar things to up the tube count. Like using smaller power tubes in parallel when a single larger tube would do the job better. Or using multiple ballast tubes in series when a single high voltage ballast would do. Some of those high transistor count sets actually DID put the extra transistors to use...as diodes or resistors. Or they used special circuits to eliminate the audio transformers (complementary output stages with darlington connected drivers, etc). Article: 322772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Driving me nuts - Solved! Message-ID: <%4hXe.13346$x43.2710169@twister.nyc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:02:51 GMT Yep. First thing I tried. No change. That was why I tried an older cap. I felt it should have made _some_ difference. I am guessing the coating of metal on the new caps is too thin to be a solid layer or act as a shield and that is why it doesn't matter which way you connect them either. It makes me wonder if these caps can actually increase noise or hum pickup in some circumstances. Maybe that's what has the Hi-Fi people looking for older caps. It may not matter in a 45-year-old radio but a high quality/gain magnetic phono preamp could have a problem with it. Ray "GBrown" wrote in message news:TLqdnYIOOfQ6oLDeRVn-qw@gwi.net... > > Did you try to reverse leads on the new cap? > > -- > Regards, > Gary...WZ1M > "Rune" wrote in message > news:HM_We.35128$%w.16133@twister.nyc.rr.com... >> >> This came closest to being the problem but with a couple of bizarre > twists. >> >> Yes, it did turn out to be the circuit common to chassis cap - but not >> because of a wrong value or other defect. >> >> After running out of things to try I exchanged the one part that wasn't >> reacting when moved or touched with another new one. No joy. >> >> Then, just for the hell of it and because of a feeling, I dug an odd NOS >> Elmenco dipped cap I had out of the misc. bin and put it in. >> >> Bingo! >> >> It appears that a modern polyester cap, combined with the particular >> location at the RF Amp and Oscillator area, was causing the trouble. > Putting >> an older style cap there made it happy again. >> >> Maybe the new caps don't form a "shield" or pass too much HF to/from the >> chassis? Never ran into this before but then I haven't encountered a set >> with such a strange component location and dress before. >> >> If you have the Sams for this unit (Set 15, Folder 31) the part involved > is >> #12. Its location places it right at the place where the antenna coupling >> cap (#22) and RF Grid resistor (#24) are placed. The cap itself sits > beside >> a tie strip smack between the RF amp and the Converter. >> >> The original installation has it running from pin 7 of the RF Amp 7F7 to > the >> ground lug near the 14Q7. Antenna in is on Pin 6 of the 7F7 and the lead > to >> the cap passes by it. It is either getting into the RF stage or the >> converter. >> >> It might be possible to make a small shield for the part if no old cap is >> available or to locate it to another part of the chassis but things are > fine >> as they are and I am tired of playing with it. >> >> I just hope this helps someone else in the future. >> >> Ray >> >> "Paul P" wrote in >> message news:BD4We.43617$qY1.16212@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> > >> > "Rune" wrote in message >> > news:DOVVe.32440$%w.30257@twister.nyc.rr.com... >> >>I have this Silvertone 7054 (Sams folder 15) here that is playing >> >>games. >> >> >> >> At the low end of the dial (560 - 640 Khz) it whistles. Below 560 it >> >> putt-putts. The problem is very sensitive to proximity of hands and >> >> orientation of wires and parts in first 2 stages of set. >> >> >> >> The problem is the symptoms will disappear after I do something and >> >> reappear later. Upper end of dial is fine. Long range reception is >> >> fine >> >> outside of problem area of dial. >> >> >> >> I have replaced all the caps and most of the resistors (including >> >> _all_ >> >> of ones in the RF Amp and osc. stages) fiddled with the tuning cap >> >> plates, moved osc. and antenna coils around, tried different tubes, >> >> retuned my hands off (i.f.'s are nice and sharp, btw), etc. The >> >> problem >> >> will clear up for a while after one or another "fix" and then return >> >> later. >> >> >> >> I only have most basic tools at this time. >> >> >> >> What am I missing? >> >> >> >> Ray >> > >> > The last radio that did this to me was one that I put a too small value >> > Safety cap in to replace the wax/paper one that connected circuit >> > common >> > to the chassis. I think it was a 0.1 uf that I replaced with a smaller >> > value about 0.01. When replaced with the correct value safety cap all >> > those problems went away and I could to an exacting alignment and not > off >> > peak. >> > >> > Check those caps that connect line to ground and circuit common to > ground. >> > >> > PP. >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 322773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:14:46 GMT I don't expect much but I notice that some are much clearer than others of identical size. It is quite notable with voice. They sound like they are damaged but they aren't. It seems that some speakers just distort beyond words while others are fine and it breaks down by OEM supplier. I would have expected the art of manufacturing small (under 2.5 inch) speakers to actually improve after 1960 but it went the other way. It is clearly noticable even with the speaker out of the cabinet. It's not frequency response, it's distortion. Swapping speakers often cures it so it's not the cabinet or circuit. It's the driver itself. I have experimented and found it to be the paper the cone is made of. I suspect some maker changed the formula to make it cheaper or tougher and that changed the sound. Buyers must not have cared or else they just sounded worse as they aged and the paper changed. Again, it is NOT the box. It is the speaker. "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:Kb0Xe.3583$g32.3388@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Rune wrote: >> Has anyone else noticed how nice most of the early transistor radios >> sounded compared to those made just a few years later? >> >> My old Philcos, Trancels/Toshibas, Channel Master/Sanyo, GE, etc. sets >> are so nice and clear but sets made later sound pretty awful. >> >> It seems to be mainly the speakers. The output sounds (generally) much >> better over phones. Small radio speakers seem to have dropped in quality >> in the early to mid 60s. Small sets from the late 60s and early 70s sound >> pretty bad. >> > Just how well do you expect a 2 x nothing speaker to sound? > Then put the speaker in a 2 x nothing box and it sounds worse than > a cheap phone. If you were to get the Theil-Small parameters on those > itty-bitty speakers (there ARE ways to measure this using a sealed box > of known volume, a TRUE RMS voltmeter / Ammeter good to a few khz, and > a calibrated sinewave generator / amplifier that can put out a watt or > so), then you could calculate the frequency response in the cabinet that > the radio is mounted in. You'd probably end up with a 3db cutoff of > maybe 700hz! (YECH!) > I used to play with building my own speakers (mounting raw drivers in > homemade boxes) so I know what the problem is. Article: 322774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432DA4E7.6D1D9899@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question References: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:34:13 GMT Rune wrote: > > I don't expect much but I notice that some are much clearer than others of > identical size. > > It is quite notable with voice. They sound like they are damaged but they > aren't. It seems that some speakers just distort beyond words while others > are fine and it breaks down by OEM supplier. > > I would have expected the art of manufacturing small (under 2.5 inch) > speakers to actually improve after 1960 but it went the other way. > > It is clearly noticable even with the speaker out of the cabinet. > > It's not frequency response, it's distortion. > > Swapping speakers often cures it so it's not the cabinet or circuit. It's > the driver itself. > > I have experimented and found it to be the paper the cone is made of. I > suspect some maker changed the formula to make it cheaper or tougher and > that changed the sound. Buyers must not have cared or else they just sounded > worse as they aged and the paper changed. > > Again, it is NOT the box. It is the speaker. It would be interesting to run distortion tests on early transistor radios. I have a HP331A distortion analyzer, but the meter was damaged by a leaky roof in my garage. One problem is that the early transistors are leaky, and the biasing used did little to compensate for this. Some transistors were so leaky that they were self biased, and you had to add resistors to the circuit when the part failed. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432DA562.42D68818@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Driving me nuts - Solved! References: <%4hXe.13346$x43.2710169@twister.nyc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:36:15 GMT Rune wrote: > > Yep. First thing I tried. No change. That was why I tried an older cap. I > felt it should have made _some_ difference. > > I am guessing the coating of metal on the new caps is too thin to be a solid > layer or act as a shield and that is why it doesn't matter which way you > connect them either. > > It makes me wonder if these caps can actually increase noise or hum pickup > in some circumstances. > > Maybe that's what has the Hi-Fi people looking for older caps. It may not > matter in a 45-year-old radio but a high quality/gain magnetic phono preamp > could have a problem with it. > > Ray If there is a band or stripe on one end of a cap, that indicates the outside foil. Proper orientation will use this to reduce noise and hum pickup. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1127008552.434631.246430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:26:05 GMT Yeah, I saw transistor inflation early on. Many were wired to just act as resistors and diodes. Some didn't seem to really do anything. I remember a 15-transistor "North American" (made in Hong Kong) I had especially. But I have had genuine 8-transistor sets with poor sensitivity and selectivity and even GE 10s (early days) that were poor, even after a full go-over. Of course, it was mainly sales hype after '62. The market had pretty much saturated and all that was left was to try to get people to replace that out-of-style or less "powerful" set. Price competition and features for dollar, bragging rights, etc. also figured in. And expectations were falling. Most end users were kids and not adults by then. Ray "michaeljpro" wrote in message news:1127008552.434631.246430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >>>Has anyone else noticed how nice most of the early transistor radios >>>sounded compared to those made just a few years later? >> > > I've noticed this as well. I recently bought a Sony TR-72 and it truly > sounds as nice as some of my smaller tube sets. Most Sonys sound very > good. The Zenith Royal 500's were great as well. Also liked the Emerson > 888 series for tone and overall performance. By 1963 and 64 the market > got so competitive quality certainly suffered. I recently bought a new > Sony AM/FM pocket radio model #ICFS10MK2 which has very good tone. > >>>Many of the early sets were also better in the long range and AVC > departments too. I have 6 transistor sets that beat the pants off later > 10 > and 12 transistor jobs. >> > > Some of the larger numbered transistor sets in the mid to late sixties > may have boasted a high number of transistors but may have only > operated on six. The rest were glued on the chassis to "wow" the > consumer who believed more is better. > Article: 322777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1127021110.469932.38750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: <_FhXe.13350$x43.2711926@twister.nyc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:42:18 GMT Well, I was mainly talking about pocket sets but, yes, sound did decline by the 70s. Not that one should have expected much from big cardboard Browni sets with lite show panels anyway, of course. It just seemed that almost nobody bothered to try to compete for the quality market for several years, with a few notable exceptions. There was less and less reason for brand loyalty as they all started using the same, cheapest, parts and most were being made in the same HK factories. Not that the Japanese were doing much better. They were even making most of the parts. And a big cabinet didn't mean a good - or even big - speaker. Many had 3" speakers no matter how big they were. They have headphone FM stereo radios in the dollar stores here. I don't even want to imagine what they sound like. I hear the "music" from their headphones on the train from 12 rows back. I can just imagine how loud it has to be at their ears. Buy hearing aid and implant stocks. A boom is coming. :) Ray "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1127021110.469932.38750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > I have a Midland FM/weather band radio, bought new five years ago, > which has a very small speaker and sounds just terrible (tinny, almost > no lows) on FM, though the sound is acceptable from the weather > broadcast. I have a much larger Zenith TransOceanic transistor portable > that sounds much better than the Midland, and a smaller Zenith AM/FM > which also beats the Midland set in sound quality. The T/O not only has > a much larger speaker, it has a much better audio system than my newer > sets. All Zeniths were built to sound great, a reputation the company > upheld until it quit making radios in the early 1980s. The same could > probably be said for many if not most transistor portable radios made > in the '50s, when most radios were made in this country. Quality, of > build as well as sound, began to drop off by the '60s and went from bad > to worse by the '80s; many of today's cheap headphone stereos (not MP3 > players or iPods) made by no-name offshore firms sound absolutely > goshawful, but these are bought mostly by kids and teenagers who don't > give a flying fig about the sound. All they care about is that it's > loud. This obsession with extremely loud music through headphones or > earbuds is causing an awful lot of teenagers to suffer hearing loss at > an early age, but that's a topic for another thread. > > Jeff Strieble, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net) > > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA > Article: 322778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1126868687.485294.323000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126919233.350995.218010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <164pi1hfggvrvevc1ujo9aoddbj5m3kcmi@4ax.com> <64upi1dtcsk7vri8sid99chdvekiaoo8n6@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Just finished my first re-cap job. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:57:30 GMT Well, .047 is a small fraction of .2 so that could be a problem too, especially since so many new caps are slightly under marked value to begin with. Older caps tended to be somewhat over marked value. Old radio designs had quite a lot of leeway to them because of imprecise parts and generally poor quality caps. Whatever, if it works, stay with it. Ray "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:64upi1dtcsk7vri8sid99chdvekiaoo8n6@4ax.com... > Follow-up. > > You nailed it, Ray. > > The original line-to-chassis cap was an Aerovox 0.2 uF, 200 VDC paper > cap. Wanting to be a good safe Boy Scout, I'd replaced it with the > largest Y2 class safety cap in the kit I'd purchased, one rated at > .047 uF. > > With the radio on, and motorboating, I used a clip to temporarily > bridge the old cap across the new one. Motorboating stopped, and the > general level of background noise diminished noticeably. > > I had clipped one lead pretty short on the old cap, so I didn't want > to solder to it. I dug in my junkbox, and came up with an old > ceramic-cased Elmenco 0.1 uF, 600VDC cap. I installed that in the > radio, in the original location. Motorboating cured! > > I determined that the reason I wasn't getting much action on the upper > end of the band was that tuning linearity was so out to lunch that I > was getting WWV at 1600 on the dial. Really. I tweaked up the > oscillator trimmer, and things are much, much better. I'm now getting > stations in Washington state, California, and Mexico at the top end of > the dial, and stations at the low end are right on the mark for > linearity. (I'm in Alberta, by the way.)Top end is pretty darn close. > No whistles, no motorboating. > > I'm a happy camper now. Next job for this one is the cabinet. It has a > great chunk missing out of the top. I acquired another radio of the > same model, with damage to the bottom of the cabinet. I plan to slice > both cabinets in half on a horizontal plane somewhere near the height > of the control shafts, and then glue the two good halves together with > epoxy. Since one cabinet is black Bakelite, and the other dark brown, > I'll paint the finished cabinet with some black satin spray paint. > > Thanks again, Ray for giving me the answer to the problem. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 322779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <11ipj1pgcodp6c0@corp.supernews.com> <1127061947.892777.325030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Strange antique phonograph program on shortwave Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:24:57 GMT "Radio-Years" wrote in message news:1127061947.892777.325030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >i wanna listen in what is the freq? and the time thay are on? > The whole WBCQ schedule for each of their frequencies is online at WBCQ.com. You want their 7.415 lineup. My favorite is the Pab Sungenis project - sort of a "Dr. Demento" type program. Tasha Takes Control is interesting, as is Radio Timtron Worldwide. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "lf" Subject: FS Older "turntable" + Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:27:39 -0400 I know you folks don't really approve of these but I have something which "someone" in here may have use for - either to use as is or for parts. FS 1 - older 50s or perhaps late 40s vintage - Turntable. The last time it was used was in early 60s or so. It was then placed in storage. The wooden base that it was in - has long since rotted and removed. The unit is in fair to reasonable condition and was working when stored. I'm not asking much but a reasonable offer and shipping. I can send pics of it to any interested. The (+) is, I have also for sale cheap - but this sucker is heavy - a transformer out of an older Tec Scope, 545 I believe (can't recall) but it has a number on it... A thread in here a short while ago spoke of maybe experimenting with this type. IF any interested, e-mail me about that too. It was removed from a "working" unit. The scope was scrapped due to lack of space. Reasonable offer and of course - shipping! Not trying to get rich off the stuff, just clean out my cave and rather than toss something someone may have a need for - offer it - cheap. Remove the "no spam" to reply. lf080357@nospamyahoo.com Article: 322781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: popping sound when mute contacts are engaged References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:30:31 -0400 Maybe there's a voltage on the phono line that shouldn't be there. Ken David wrote: > Hi all > I am working on a record changer with muting contacts that engage when > changing cycle starts. > When the contacts mate, the input is shorted, there is a popping sound > through the speaker. The amplifier has been recapped and works loud and > clear in all other aspects. > It almost seems better to disable the mute contacts. > Any ideas? > Dave > > Article: 322782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Trickle Charge Current? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:34:04 -0400 I use a 12V car battery sometimes for auto radio repair. What's a good continious charge current to keep it topped up without damaging the batt? Ken Article: 322783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: Subject: Re: Trickle Charge Current? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:46:30 GMT They make a small one to use on motorcycle batteries in the winter. An auto parts store should stock those. Maybe even Walmart. Take a peak at the current on the transformer, my guess is 100ma would do. "Ken" wrote in message news:aqiXe.12365$nq.8469@lakeread05... >I use a 12V car battery sometimes for auto radio repair. What's a good continious charge current to keep it topped >up without damaging the batt? Ken > Article: 322784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: Re: zenith 12093 motorized chairside Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:49:27 +0200 Message-ID: <1473180e78717524d02ffc0c189f7692@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <19a5a464348c1f142f94229c6a46a0ad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <%U6Xe.1850$fb6.1241@trnddc08> dave, contact me @ zeffer1940 aol.com my email was rejected as i messed up the address.. jeff sylvania oh Article: 322785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: Subject: Re: Kutztown.. any pix yet??? Message-ID: <2KiXe.5280$T55.5147@trndny06> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:54:54 GMT Only took 2 pictures before i got there, from the gas station at the exit on RT. 78. Using the one for windows wallpaper currently. Got too busy selling and talking to take any pictures of the show. Some very nice radios, some were more for show than to sell. Picked up 2 smaller Riders books for $1.00 each. Complete Index for perpetual trouble shooters manuals vol 1,2,3,4 and the Set Catalog and Index JAN 1921-JAN 1933, will try to scan this one and get posted soon. Has original pricing and tube line up, many names, model numbers and year of introduction. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:RtWdnRa4MpUJCbDeRVn-jA@comcast.com... > did anyone shoot some good pix at K Town? Post on binaries if you did... > sorry I missed it. > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 322786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: New additions to Clough-Brengle web page Message-ID: <7djXe.68725$Jp.1017437@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:28:03 GMT I've added several photos to the Clough-Brengle web page. Thanks to Bill Follmer for sending pics of CB model 127 & 199. I've also added 3 pieces that are in my collection that I haven't had a chance to photograph before. Check it out if you're interested. http://cloughbrengle.homestead.com 73, Ron http://radioheaven.homestead,com Article: 322787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:33:59 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Cap tolerances References: <1126868687.485294.323000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126919233.350995.218010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <164pi1hfggvrvevc1ujo9aoddbj5m3kcmi@4ax.com> <64upi1dtcsk7vri8sid99chdvekiaoo8n6@4ax.com> Message-ID: Rune wrote: > especially since so many new caps are slightly under marked value to begin > with. Older caps tended to be somewhat over marked value. Hmmm, I've never heard this so I went to my parts drawer and did some checking. It seems certain brands and values do tend to lean one way or the other, not necessarily under. Here's a sampling: .047 DME type - 13 under, 8 over. .1 DME type - 6 under, 1 over .05 ETR yellowcap - 4 under, 0 over (I suspect these are really .047 in disguise - none exceeded 6% above .047) .1 ETR yellowcap - 1 under, 3 over .068 ETR dipped - 2 under, 0 over .068 ETR yellowcap - 2 under, 3 over 1.0 DME dipped - 0 under, 4 over. These were new 10% 630v caps...most measured well within 5% tolerance, the majority within 2%. -Bill Article: 322788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Reading cap color code Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:43:12 GMT Refresh my memory: If a tubular black molded cap has following bands: Brown Gray Orange Gray -Space- Yellow How do I read the value? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Unusual Zenith portable Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:44:21 GMT Hi Jim, The radio looks nothing like the Royal 500L............it looks exactly like the Royal 41. I used to have a Royal 41 years ago. That is why I was pleased to pick up this one. Somebody threw it out at the end of the first day of Radio Expo. I was able to clean the tuning capacitor this morning and unfreeze it. The circuit board looks clean, with no sign of corrosion. Pete "jim menning" wrote in message news:ScgXe.50669$32.5470@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message > news:9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>I just picked up what looks like a Zenith Royal 41 portable AM radio. The >>unusual thing is that instead of Royal 41 it says Royal 500. Maybe this >>was the preceding unit.......I don't know. When I removed the back panel, >>the transistor lineup appears the same as the Royal 41 in that it does >>have an RF amplifier ahead of the mixer. >> I need to free up the frozen tuning knob and give the unit a general >> clean-up, but it looks hopeful. >> >> Pete >> > > That must be the Royal 500L. > > http://radioinsoffitta.it/html/radio_transistor/Zenith_1.htm > > Here is a Royal 41. > > http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=zenith+royal+41&btnG=Search > > Are you saying that you have seen Royal 41's that look like the Royal > 500L? From these images, they don't look at all similar to one another. > > jim menning > Article: 322790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: Subject: Re: Reading cap color code Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:09:03 GMT 18 nano of course. My guess. The 4th band, gray means ???? The last band yellow, is usually found on military parts, i always thought it meant 4 as in 400volts. This page probably explains it correctly http://www.pmel.org/HandBook/HBpage26.htm "Jon" wrote in message news:krjXe.98106$Hx4.62900@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Refresh my memory: > > If a tubular black molded cap has following bands: > > Brown > Gray > Orange > Gray > -Space- > Yellow > > How do I read the value? > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > Article: 322791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norm Subject: Re: Strange antique phonograph program on shortwave Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:17:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: <11ipj1pgcodp6c0@corp.supernews.com> Hi, just for your info, there's another station with a pretty similar show called "The Antique Phonograph Music Program" alternating with "Thomas Edison's Attic" on WFMU. It's not shortwave radio but you can also listen to their podcasts and online streams. http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/AP Article: 322792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Unusual Zenith portable Message-ID: <6lkXe.50932$32.20383@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:44:50 GMT "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message news:psjXe.271192$5N3.113109@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Hi Jim, > > The radio looks nothing like the Royal 500L............it looks > exactly like the Royal 41. I used to have a Royal 41 years ago. That > is why I was pleased to pick up this one. Somebody threw it out at > the end of the first day of Radio Expo. I was able to clean the > tuning capacitor this morning and unfreeze it. The circuit board > looks clean, with no sign of corrosion. > > Pete > I think Marty solved this one. It's the 500N that looks like a 41. Thanks guys! jim menning Article: 322793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Unusual Zenith portable Message-ID: <7nkXe.1357$wR4.248568@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:46:59 GMT Still, if you have your mind on a 500, there IS a parts set on eBay that just listed in the last day. "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message news:psjXe.271192$5N3.113109@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Hi Jim, > > The radio looks nothing like the Royal 500L............it looks exactly like > the Royal 41. I used to have a Royal 41 years ago. That is why I was pleased > to pick up this one. Somebody threw it out at the end of the first day of > Radio Expo. I was able to clean the tuning capacitor this morning and > unfreeze it. The circuit board looks clean, with no sign of corrosion. > > Pete > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:ScgXe.50669$32.5470@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > > "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message > > news:9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >>I just picked up what looks like a Zenith Royal 41 portable AM radio. The > >>unusual thing is that instead of Royal 41 it says Royal 500. Maybe this > >>was the preceding unit.......I don't know. When I removed the back panel, > >>the transistor lineup appears the same as the Royal 41 in that it does > >>have an RF amplifier ahead of the mixer. > >> I need to free up the frozen tuning knob and give the unit a general > >> clean-up, but it looks hopeful. > >> > >> Pete > >> > > > > That must be the Royal 500L. > > > > http://radioinsoffitta.it/html/radio_transistor/Zenith_1.htm > > > > Here is a Royal 41. > > > > http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=zenith+royal+41&btnG=Search > > > > Are you saying that you have seen Royal 41's that look like the Royal > > 500L? From these images, they don't look at all similar to one another. > > > > jim menning > > > > Article: 322794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: Trickle Charge Current? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:48:45 GMT Yes, that's good, but are motorcycle batteries 12 volts now? I had always thought they were 6V. "Robert Mozeleski" wrote in message news:aCiXe.14378$Zg5.11371@trndny05... > They make a small one to use on motorcycle batteries in the winter. An auto parts store should stock those. Maybe > even Walmart. Take a peak at the current on the transformer, my guess is 100ma would do. > > "Ken" wrote in message news:aqiXe.12365$nq.8469@lakeread05... > >I use a 12V car battery sometimes for auto radio repair. What's a good continious charge current to keep it topped > >up without damaging the batt? Ken > > > > Article: 322795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Reading cap color code Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:49:51 GMT I measure it at 19 nano, but it has a crack along it's length, so I'll replace it. It's in my Tektronix 525 scope. Jon "Robert Mozeleski" wrote in message news:zPjXe.5505$i86.2544@trndny01... > 18 nano of course. My guess. The 4th band, gray means ???? The last band > yellow, is usually found on military parts, i always thought it meant 4 as > in 400volts. This page probably explains it correctly > http://www.pmel.org/HandBook/HBpage26.htm > > > "Jon" wrote in message > news:krjXe.98106$Hx4.62900@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> Refresh my memory: >> >> If a tubular black molded cap has following bands: >> >> Brown >> Gray >> Orange >> Gray >> -Space- >> Yellow >> >> How do I read the value? >> >> >> -- >> Jon Scaptura >> Endicott, NY >> >> See my antique radios here: >> http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios >> > > Article: 322796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <24626-432D89E4-226@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:53:43 GMT I'd love to hear the sets, but the BATTERIES I bought for 19 cents never lasted very long, so I had to buy a few or once a week. "Ken G." wrote in message news:24626-432D89E4-226@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... > As a kid and up through the years i owned and fixed thousands of > transistor radios . Your topic is interesting because i always liked the > best sounding radios .. best sounding as in a nice deep rich tone . > > I have to say there were only the few that had that real good sound . > American made , japan made alike had their good ones . > Funny those cheap mass produced early 70`s pocket radios with the name > `Nobility` > on them which had the no transformer amplifiers many of them had real > good rich sound . I remember holding them to my ear at low volume .. > they had deep bass believe it or not ! > > Going onto the bigger than pocket size but cheaper AM only sets i > remember Zenith had a few models that had bass sound . A funny brand > ``Wendel West`` also had great bass sound . Sony and Elgin had there > share of good sound . > > Later 70`s it seems they stopped caring > Article: 322797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1127021110.469932.38750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_FhXe.13350$x43.2711926@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:58:22 GMT If you want "separation" on some the dollar sets, buy TWO. The little pushbutton synthesizer tuner is mono, I swear. "Rune" wrote in message news:_FhXe.13350$x43.2711926@twister.nyc.rr.com... > Well, I was mainly talking about pocket sets but, yes, sound did decline by > the 70s. > > Not that one should have expected much from big cardboard Browni sets with > lite show panels anyway, of course. > > It just seemed that almost nobody bothered to try to compete for the quality > market for several years, with a few notable exceptions. > > There was less and less reason for brand loyalty as they all started using > the same, cheapest, parts and most were being made in the same HK factories. > Not that the Japanese were doing much better. They were even making most of > the parts. > > And a big cabinet didn't mean a good - or even big - speaker. Many had 3" > speakers no matter how big they were. > > They have headphone FM stereo radios in the dollar stores here. I don't even > want to imagine what they sound like. > > I hear the "music" from their headphones on the train from 12 rows back. I > can just imagine how loud it has to be at their ears. > > Buy hearing aid and implant stocks. A boom is coming. :) > > Ray > > > "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message > news:1127021110.469932.38750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > I have a Midland FM/weather band radio, bought new five years ago, > > which has a very small speaker and sounds just terrible (tinny, almost > > no lows) on FM, though the sound is acceptable from the weather > > broadcast. I have a much larger Zenith TransOceanic transistor portable > > that sounds much better than the Midland, and a smaller Zenith AM/FM > > which also beats the Midland set in sound quality. The T/O not only has > > a much larger speaker, it has a much better audio system than my newer > > sets. All Zeniths were built to sound great, a reputation the company > > upheld until it quit making radios in the early 1980s. The same could > > probably be said for many if not most transistor portable radios made > > in the '50s, when most radios were made in this country. Quality, of > > build as well as sound, began to drop off by the '60s and went from bad > > to worse by the '80s; many of today's cheap headphone stereos (not MP3 > > players or iPods) made by no-name offshore firms sound absolutely > > goshawful, but these are bought mostly by kids and teenagers who don't > > give a flying fig about the sound. All they care about is that it's > > loud. This obsession with extremely loud music through headphones or > > earbuds is causing an awful lot of teenagers to suffer hearing loss at > > an early age, but that's a topic for another thread. > > > > Jeff Strieble, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net) > > > > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA > > > > Article: 322798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432DDB76.69FFB094@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Fluke 30022 digital meter question References: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:27:22 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > > I just acquired a Fluke 30022 digital bench type meter with cool nixie > tubes. I'd like to use it, but don't know if it's functioning properly > and would like to get a copy of the user's manual if available. > > Without any leads connected to it, on turning it on I notice that the > digital tubes light up, but when the ohms button is pressed in, the > left-most tube shows a fairly wide blurry vertical line. I'm wondering > if this thing is screwed up, or if that's normal. I'm hoping it's > normal, but I doubt it. > > Anyone out there have one? What does it show when you connect the leads together? Does it show zero ohms? Does it show the right values when you test different resistors? Some digital meters blanked the display when they are over range. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Sep 19 09:31:22 EDT 2005 Article: 322799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question References: <1127021110.469932.38750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_FhXe.13350$x43.2711926@twister.nyc.rr.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 14 Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:57:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1127080668 66.65.49.245 (Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:57:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:57:48 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322799 In article , Steven Dinius_ wrote: > If you want "separation" on some the dollar sets, buy TWO. The little > pushbutton synthesizer tuner is mono, I swear. Two of those radios don't give you stereo. You're just putting two dual-speaker radios together, so you get quad-speaker mono radio. The push-button "auto-scan" radios are about as stereo as the little "mini-boombox" novelty radios that were popular in the late 90s. They're just mono twin-speaker units. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 322800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432DE894.3040804@sonic.net> From: Richard Steinfeld Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:22:12 GMT Paul P wrote: > Bubba, > > Thank you for identifying the miss spelling errors. I can read my mistakes > over and over and never catch them. I will take your other suggestions too. > > If you click on the pictures they expand. Those are thumb nails. So I will > label them as such. Did you click on the pictures? > > Thanks, > Paul. I believe that I did. What I was especially interested in was good pics of the speakers. It's so interesting that these people put electrostatics into a table radio. Then again, the design philosophies of the German consumer electronics outfits were so strange back then. From what I've read here, and the little that I've heard, every so often, they'd make a very nice sounding product -- although there's sure been a lot of traffic here about the cruddy parts. Did I get this right? They got so carried away with the buttons, in an expensive model, I'd expect to see one labeled "Berlin Philharmonic," another "Hamburg Symphony," etc. The spelling errors are errors, but they're so common that I sometimes find that I'm making them myself! Ensure/insure/assure: good words, but each different. Bubba Article: 322801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Date: 18 Sep 2005 17:29:04 -0500 Message-ID: <432de9c8$0$211$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <432cb2e2$0$224$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1127006180.005788.169640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > The clamping mechanism needs adjusting, something that I'm not so sure > how to do in toploaders. They can actually spin in REVERSE it things > are really messy. > O assume that your topic is the RCA CD clock radio I mentioned. This product has no clamping assembly. It's a cheap-o, like a toploader except that the CD is mounted sideways behind a motorized swing and grooved-drop door (groan!!!). Instead of a good clamping assembly, which centers the CD, this type snaps the disk onto three tiny ball bearings. Centering will be hit-or-miss if the disk is slightly off-spec, which these $#@(*Y*Y Sonys are. And, I hasten to add that these miserable Sony disks were manufactured by Sony themselves, as opposed to Sony disks made by other companies. Recordable CDs are only sometimes made by the outfit whose name is on them. Bubba-of-the-west Article: 322802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: popping sound when mute contacts are engaged Date: 18 Sep 2005 17:38:05 -0500 Message-ID: <432deb9f$0$190$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: David wrote: > Hi all > I am working on a record changer with muting contacts that engage when > changing cycle starts. > When the contacts mate, the input is shorted, there is a popping sound > through the speaker. The amplifier has been recapped and works loud and > clear in all other aspects. > It almost seems better to disable the mute contacts. > Any ideas? > Dave > You didn't identify the machine! (So, what is it?) From your plural, I assume that it's a stereo changer. Have you checked for good contact across the muting switch(es)? The only Bubba you'll ever need. Article: 322803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <432cb2e2$0$224$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1127006180.005788.169640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <432de9c8$0$211$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:57:51 GMT "CalBubba" wrote in message news:432de9c8$0$211$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > Steven wrote: > > The clamping mechanism needs adjusting, something that I'm not so sure > > how to do in toploaders. They can actually spin in REVERSE it things > > are really messy. > > > > O assume that your topic is the RCA CD clock radio I mentioned. This > product has no clamping assembly. It's a cheap-o, like a toploader > except that the CD is mounted sideways behind a motorized swing and > grooved-drop door (groan!!!). Instead of a good clamping assembly, which > centers the CD, this type snaps the disk onto three tiny ball bearings. > Centering will be hit-or-miss if the disk is slightly off-spec, which > these $#@(*Y*Y Sonys are. > > And, I hasten to add that these miserable Sony disks were manufactured > by Sony themselves, as opposed to Sony disks made by other companies. > Recordable CDs are only sometimes made by the outfit whose name is on them. > > Bubba-of-the-west Got mine in the clearance bin at Staples for IIRC about 60% off on spindles "Optimum" brand and rated 80 minutes, 700 Mb up to 48 X CD-R only. I've used them for over two years, and the only thing that really stops them is my messy habits here at my desk (dinner is served and a table is for fixing things). I need on of those CD cleaning devices. You are lucky. I have a toploading Sony boombox CFD-101 that I haven't figured out despite reading the svc manual. It spins, registers, stops and then won't play. I am determined to fix the $7.50 wonder because the AM is very nice and the amp is pleasant too and I want to fix it for next spring and a new bike. Article: 322804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1127021110.469932.38750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_FhXe.13350$x43.2711926@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:58:42 GMT Yaah, I was makin' a funny, Steph : ) "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrndiroms.3h9.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article , Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > If you want "separation" on some the dollar sets, buy TWO. The little > > pushbutton synthesizer tuner is mono, I swear. > > Two of those radios don't give you stereo. You're just putting two > dual-speaker radios together, so you get quad-speaker mono radio. > > The push-button "auto-scan" radios are about as stereo as the little > "mini-boombox" novelty radios that were popular in the late 90s. They're > just mono twin-speaker units. > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. Article: 322805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <432DE894.3040804@sonic.net> Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: <%kmXe.1371$wR4.250544@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:01:15 GMT "Richard Steinfeld" wrote in message news:432DE894.3040804@sonic.net... > Paul P wrote: > > Bubba, > > > > Thank you for identifying the miss spelling errors. I can read my mistakes > > over and over and never catch them. I will take your other suggestions too. > > > > If you click on the pictures they expand. Those are thumb nails. So I will > > label them as such. Did you click on the pictures? > > > > Thanks, > > Paul. > > > I believe that I did. > What I was especially interested in was good pics of the speakers. It's > so interesting that these people put electrostatics into a table radio. > Then again, the design philosophies of the German consumer electronics > outfits were so strange back then. From what I've read here, and the > little that I've heard, every so often, they'd make a very nice sounding > product -- although there's sure been a lot of traffic here about the > cruddy parts. Did I get this right? > > They got so carried away with the buttons, in an expensive model, I'd > expect to see one labeled "Berlin Philharmonic," another "Hamburg > Symphony," etc. > > The spelling errors are errors, but they're so common that I sometimes > find that I'm making them myself! Ensure/insure/assure: good words, but > each different. > > Bubba That YOU, Bubba? Well, gee set a spell and have a Coke! Article: 322806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:06:43 -0600 Message-ID: <19824-432DF303-698@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1127006180.005788.169640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Many of these were so thrown together the amplifier bias was choking the sound qualty . I had re-biased many radios whch madea world of difference . Also scraping the flexable ege of the speaker cone let the cone move better and improve sound 50% sometimes . Article: 322807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <2KiXe.5280$T55.5147@trndny06> <1127084979.304047.32820@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Kutztown.. any pix yet??? VS. mine they must be better (L@@K) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:27:47 GMT see 4 yourself on ABPR "Steven" wrote in message news:1127084979.304047.32820@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Beats my funky digital pic of an Original Coors sign...although it's > pretty cool too. Why don't you put yours on the binaries? > Article: 322808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Fluke 30022 digital meter question References: <2p1si19jp4f9r43devgo8ggu9feon1orsu@4ax.com> Message-ID: <7XnXe.5615$Cg.2723@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:50:11 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > Ooops! > It's an 8120A. Check it again, is it really an 8012 benchtop? I have one of those. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <2p1si19jp4f9r43devgo8ggu9feon1orsu@4ax.com> <7XnXe.5615$Cg.2723@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1f4si1dg7duhiuorvvn2kgh56han2lnb4l@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Fluke 30022 digital meter question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 02:03:36 GMT "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:1f4si1dg7duhiuorvvn2kgh56han2lnb4l@4ax.com... > This is the second time a flea-market guy assured me that a meter > works when it doesn't. Last time it was for $35, this time for $24. I > never saw the last guy, and probably will never see this guy again > either. > > I don't lie to people, and it sure burns me when others lie to me. Oh, well, I rather like to fiddle with things as you know. More fun when I fixed it. What you get to expect when you have a itch to buy fleas. Just hope you don't have to scratch it. Article: 322810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Strange antique phonograph program on shortwave From: Larry References: <11ipj1pgcodp6c0@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:12:31 -0400 norm wrote in news:dgki0g$696$1@online.de: > Hi, > > just for your info, there's another station with a pretty similar show > called "The Antique Phonograph Music Program" alternating with "Thomas > Edison's Attic" on WFMU. It's not shortwave radio but you can also > listen to their podcasts and online streams. > > http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/AP > One of the finest broadcasts of vintage radio era music on the internet is Malcolm Laycock's 10PM UTC program, which is always available on demand of the last show on BBC Two: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/laycock/ (Yes, Malcolm is just the character you think he is from his smiling picture. Email him and you'll find out!)....(c; During his show live, you can watch him on the live webcam from the BBC2 Studio. BBC is the finest internet broadcaster on the planet. I offered to pay my "radio tax" from this side of the pond to support the fine streaming audio, but they graciously refused and hoped I'd continue listening. Thank you BBC and the UK for such a fine service.... To date, my begging and offering to pay good money to put BBC TV home channels on the internet broadband has fallen on deaf ears. BBC America is just a taste of fine TV from the UK. At home they get to see it a year ahead.... -- Larry Article: 322811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Fluke 30022 digital meter question References: <2p1si19jp4f9r43devgo8ggu9feon1orsu@4ax.com> <7XnXe.5615$Cg.2723@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1f4si1dg7duhiuorvvn2kgh56han2lnb4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 02:17:47 GMT Acck, my mistake, I'd forgotten that you said NIXIE TUBES. The FLuke 8012 I was referring to is an LCD model. Blacksmith wrote: > This is the second time a flea-market guy assured me that a meter > works when it doesn't. Like eBay, "Working" means it hasn't already burst into flames. > I don't lie to people, and it sure burns me when others lie to me. When I used to sell at the swap meet, I'd ASSURE people that what they were looking at was indeed defective. And offer a full money back guarantee. "If that works properly, bring it back for a 100% refund." Could you post a picture of the front panel? I vaguely remember the Nixie versions. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Trickle Charge Current? From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:33:07 -0400 Ken wrote in news:aqiXe.12365$nq.8469@lakeread05: > I use a 12V car battery sometimes for auto radio repair. What's a good > continious charge current to keep it topped up without damaging the > batt? Ken > > > None....Buy a good quality charger like the Vector solid-state automatic battery chargers WalMart sells so cheap and simply start it charging when you're done with the wetcell to recharge it. The chargers are very intellegent, with a 3-stage charging cycle and constant computer monitoring. The computer controls it all, pulses it into final top off charge, then shuts down at the precise moment when it's FUL, as the little LED display says. Top it off every time you use it this way and it will last for many years. NEVER leave it discharged. A better battery is a deep cycle marine, after you ruin this one. Car batteries are made for starting. Their plates are way too thin to discharge them any distance, which ruins them.... I have the largest 40 amp model WalMart sold for $89 with full battery reconditioner and 100A starting current. For your application, I'd think the 2/6/10A model for $44 from: http://www.autopn.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=123&idproduct=20026 would be a great choice. I don't use this website. Hunt around with this model number to find your best price. It uses the same 3-stage computerized system, at a fraction of the cost of the big one. A 1.5A simple analog trickle charger is $35-40. Spend the difference and get a good charger. These are a little odd. They use a switching power supply, not a big old transformer and huge diodes at 60 Hz. They weigh almost nothing. They will NOT charge a completely dead battery, one with no voltage at all. I keep my old charger around to boost a totally dead battery to some life for an hour, then switch to the big Vector and let the computer handle it. If you screw up and short it out, or hook it up backwards or do anything foolish, it simply gives you and error number on its little LED and refuses to let you blow it to hell. Damned smartassed computers, anyways.... When I first got the thing, I had 3 deep cycle batteries I thought were lost in my storage shed. Anxious to try the big Vector's "battery rejuvenator" mode, I put a little surface charge on them with my old charger and then set the Vector working for its 24-hour rejuvenate cycle of charge, discharge, charge, discharge in little pulses on and off. TWO of the three dead batteries that had been sitting a long time CAME TO LIFE! I'm still using them a year later. Amazing technology. One more warning then I'll shut up. Each time you start a charge cycle by pushing the amps button on the front, the charger will, initially charge at the rate you set....then it just stops and sits there for several minutes after it charges for serveral minutes. This is NORMAL, don't panic. The computer is watching the voltage falling off so it can find out what the state of the battery's plates and electrolyte are in to decide how to best do this job, most efficiently. Trust it...(c;) It knows what it's doing. When it comes to life again, on its own, you'll notice each battery's initial charging current is unique from its measurements. It will NEVER BE what you set it to. Don't keep resetting it as you'll just piss it off, not a good thing with computers, as you know. Just sit back and watch the blinking lights as it goes about doing what's best.... You can set it to 40 amps, hook it to a 5AH little tiny gelcell and the damned computer will just ignore your stupid setting and charge the little gelcell perfectly just like it will the diesel starting battery for a tractor-trailer. -- Larry Article: 322813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <7nkXe.1357$wR4.248568@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Unusual Zenith portable Message-ID: <_vqXe.273314$5N3.231740@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:46:02 GMT Hi Steven, Actually, the Royal 41 is the one that I have been looking for. I have had a few of the 500s over the years..........they are great receivers. After I get this one running, I may make a couple of changes. Somebody appears to have changed one of the I.F. transformers. In the position where I expected to see a white core transformer, there is an additional black core unit. I may replace the yellow core unit with a Toko yellow core unit that has an integral ceramic filter. After this change, the selectivity should be comparable to a Royal 500H. This radio still needs quite a bit of work to get it up and running. Pete "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:7nkXe.1357$wR4.248568@monger.newsread.com... > Still, if you have your mind on a 500, there IS a parts set on eBay that > just listed in the last day. > > "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message > news:psjXe.271192$5N3.113109@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> Hi Jim, >> >> The radio looks nothing like the Royal 500L............it looks exactly > like >> the Royal 41. I used to have a Royal 41 years ago. That is why I was > pleased >> to pick up this one. Somebody threw it out at the end of the first day of >> Radio Expo. I was able to clean the tuning capacitor this morning and >> unfreeze it. The circuit board looks clean, with no sign of corrosion. >> >> Pete >> >> "jim menning" wrote in message >> news:ScgXe.50669$32.5470@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> > >> > "Pete KE9OA" wrote in message >> > news:9r7Xe.267659$5N3.216193@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> >>I just picked up what looks like a Zenith Royal 41 portable AM radio. > The >> >>unusual thing is that instead of Royal 41 it says Royal 500. Maybe this >> >>was the preceding unit.......I don't know. When I removed the back > panel, >> >>the transistor lineup appears the same as the Royal 41 in that it does >> >>have an RF amplifier ahead of the mixer. >> >> I need to free up the frozen tuning knob and give the unit a general >> >> clean-up, but it looks hopeful. >> >> >> >> Pete >> >> >> > >> > That must be the Royal 500L. >> > >> > http://radioinsoffitta.it/html/radio_transistor/Zenith_1.htm >> > >> > Here is a Royal 41. >> > >> > > http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=zenith+royal+41&btnG=Search >> > >> > Are you saying that you have seen Royal 41's that look like the Royal >> > 500L? From these images, they don't look at all similar to one >> > another. >> > >> > jim menning >> > >> >> > > Article: 322814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <432DE894.3040804@sonic.net> Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:49:48 GMT > I believe that I did. > What I was especially interested in was good pics of the speakers. Do the pics on the web page give you a good idea of what it looks like? Perhaps the rear inside picture of the radio downloaded and expanded with a JPG view may help. There is not profile pic of the speaker. But I can say it is a solid brown plastic cover shaped like a cone. Not unlike a wide conical bottled water paper drinking cup that you find at the tire store or auto garage. The perforated grill looks like a heavy speaker cover from an old auto dash board. There is not much to the electrostatic speaker. Find an old one and pull it apart. Nothing too complicated. I have seen more complicated High School Science fair projects :~) Paul. Article: 322815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Fluke 30022 digital meter question References: <2ubsi1djgh35brgn5h0ii6lai4i11eprj4@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:50:40 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > Posted a picture on the binaries group. Thanks. That should work with the probes connected to the HI (red) and LO (black) terminals. You can connect the GND (blue) terminal to the LO (black) with the shorting strap if you want to. The 5 mode switches, AC mA, DC mA, AC volts, DC volts and Ohms select what you want to measure. The range buttons to the right select how much of what you're measuring. If the meter just sits there and acts stupid, either somebody did something stupid like trying to measure how many ohms in the AC wall outlet (a perennial favorite) or else the internal circuitry that does all the comparisons and counting died. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Tim Mullen: please contact me Date: 18 Sep 2005 23:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: <432e3839$0$167$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Hey, Tim, My post to you came back twice. Please get ahold of me from a real, true email address. There is only one True Bubba Article: 322817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Kutztown Acquisitions & Clinic Report Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:45:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1127002137.716655.299310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1127053324.747847.174500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Fuse? Wozzat? > > No visible fuse in this beastie... but I tend to agree with you. > Nothing in the power cord, however. That I test with the radio turned > off. That is #2 in the diagnosis chain after the Zenith, but before the > Philco. A Nordmende of that vintage without a fuse? Almost inconceivable, I would say....There's gotta be one in there someplace, Peter.....Unless someone did a really expert fuse bypass >:-( . 3+ amps! I hope it's something simple like a shorted cap or diode, and not a shorted winding in your power tranny....This is a very nice sounding and very sensitive set when justice is done to it. -Scott Article: 322818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Date: 18 Sep 2005 23:15:03 -0500 Message-ID: <432e3aab$0$207$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <432DE894.3040804@sonic.net> Paul P wrote: >>I believe that I did. >>What I was especially interested in was good pics of the speakers. > > > Do the pics on the web page give you a good idea of what it looks like? > Perhaps the rear inside picture of the radio downloaded and expanded with a > JPG view may help. Oh, now I get it!!! Sorry. It didn't occur to me to click on the pics. Very nice. What do you think is the reason why the Mfr went to electrostatic for his tweeters? I don't know the radio. If it's 1959-60, that would make it mono or at the wildest: AM/FM dual mono ("stereo."). So, I'm assuming one tweeter. Is that right? How does the radio sound? As I recall in the world of hi-fi, electrostatic tweeters could be downright nasty -- with arcing, burning: that kind of stuff. Maybe Sommerwerck could fill us in, since his favored KLH made some. Bubba Article: 322819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Old small portables sound question Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:06:41 -0700 Message-ID: References: <24626-432D89E4-226@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: A funny brand > ``Wendel West`` also had great bass sound . IIRC, Wendel-West was an Americanized brand name of Kobe Kogyo, which made some really nice early Japanese transistor radios. -Scott Article: 322820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <432DE894.3040804@sonic.net> <432e3aab$0$207$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 04:55:08 GMT > Oh, now I get it!!! > Sorry. It didn't occur to me to click on the pics. Very nice. > What do you think is the reason why the Mfr went to electrostatic for his > tweeters? > > I don't know the radio. If it's 1959-60, that would make it mono or at the > wildest: AM/FM dual mono ("stereo."). So, I'm assuming one tweeter. Is > that right? > > How does the radio sound? > > As I recall in the world of hi-fi, electrostatic tweeters could be > downright nasty -- with arcing, burning: that kind of stuff. Maybe > Sommerwerck could fill us in, since his favored KLH made some. > > Bubba I think the high frequency response was superior compared to paper cone tweeters of the vintage 1950-60's. This is a monophonic radio. And it sounds nice. The tweeter's output is subdued compared to today's speaker cabinet. But I do not remember a tweeter that blasted back in the 60 and 70 the way they balance a cabinet today. The kids like the high frequencies. I believe it gives them enhanced spacial imagery. The arching would be similar to a bad cap. There is a series resistor about 100k. So the current would be pretty low at 165 Vdc. It is connected across the primary side of the OPT. The thin film probably would deteriorate and cause a short. Looking at this speaker one could locate the bad spot and literally cut it out with a single hole paper punch. Then put some tape over the hole between the membrane and the negative speaker grill for insulating the cut edges. Or just use some cellophane tape over the short. Like I mentioned before the construction is down right simple. No voice coil, no magnet, no gap with crud in the space. Paul. Article: 322821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <432c687b$0$186$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <105Xe.266988$5N3.85484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <432DE894.3040804@sonic.net> <432e3aab$0$207$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Electrostatic tweeter rebuild Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:17:43 GMT "Paul P" wrote in message news:MwrXe.273612$5N3.114534@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > Oh, now I get it!!! > > Sorry. It didn't occur to me to click on the pics. Very nice. > > What do you think is the reason why the Mfr went to electrostatic for his > > tweeters? > > > > I don't know the radio. If it's 1959-60, that would make it mono or at the > > wildest: AM/FM dual mono ("stereo."). So, I'm assuming one tweeter. Is > > that right? > > > > How does the radio sound? > > > > As I recall in the world of hi-fi, electrostatic tweeters could be > > downright nasty -- with arcing, burning: that kind of stuff. Maybe > > Sommerwerck could fill us in, since his favored KLH made some. > > > > Bubba > > I think the high frequency response was superior compared to paper cone > tweeters of the vintage 1950-60's. > > This is a monophonic radio. And it sounds nice. The tweeter's output is > subdued compared to today's speaker cabinet. But I do not remember a > tweeter that blasted back in the 60 and 70 the way they balance a cabinet > today. The kids like the high frequencies. I believe it gives them > enhanced spacial imagery. > > The arching would be similar to a bad cap. There is a series resistor about > 100k. So the current would be pretty low at 165 Vdc. It is connected > across the primary side of the OPT. > > The thin film probably would deteriorate and cause a short. Looking at this > speaker one could locate the bad spot and literally cut it out with a single > hole paper punch. Then put some tape over the hole between the membrane and > the negative speaker grill for insulating the cut edges. Or just use some > cellophane tape over the short. > > Like I mentioned before the construction is down right simple. No voice > coil, no magnet, no gap with crud in the space. > > Paul. > Jensen P35s had excellent if slightly buzzy highs that sound fine in a higher powered speaker. They aren't expected to put out much more than 25 watts, I'd think. I like Altec phenolic-type paper tweeters too. Domes are sometimes a bit harsh for me, the Jensen is my favorite right now. Article: 322822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norm Subject: Re: Strange antique phonograph program on shortwave Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 09:50:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <11ipj1pgcodp6c0@corp.supernews.com> Thanks, I am just listening to it right now, pretty cool! Larry wrote: > norm wrote in news:dgki0g$696$1@online.de: > >> Hi, >> >> just for your info, there's another station with a pretty similar show >> called "The Antique Phonograph Music Program" alternating with "Thomas >> Edison's Attic" on WFMU. It's not shortwave radio but you can also >> listen to their podcasts and online streams. >> >> http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/AP >> > > One of the finest broadcasts of vintage radio era music on the internet is > Malcolm Laycock's 10PM UTC program, which is always available on demand of > the last show on BBC Two: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/laycock/ > (Yes, Malcolm is just the character you think he is from his smiling > picture. Email him and you'll find out!)....(c; > > During his show live, you can watch him on the live webcam from the BBC2 > Studio. > > BBC is the finest internet broadcaster on the planet. I offered to pay my > "radio tax" from this side of the pond to support the fine streaming audio, > but they graciously refused and hoped I'd continue listening. > > Thank you BBC and the UK for such a fine service.... > > To date, my begging and offering to pay good money to put BBC TV home > channels on the internet broadband has fallen on deaf ears. BBC America is > just a taste of fine TV from the UK. At home they get to see it a year > ahead.... > Article: 322823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: West German RCA 67QR77M am/sw radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:14:04 GMT When you go to save the pix, adjust the setting for quality (compression)...you can get away with a large reduction in this case and not really affect viewability. JPEG's are supposed to be lossless or whatever the word is so it doesn't matter a lot here. "amp11plzDontSpam" wrote in message news:E1vXe.206$zQ3.13@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Four pictures of an RCA 67QR77M radio that I fixed for a friend are posted > on the alt.binaries.pictures.radio group. It works remarkably well, > considering that I did not have a schematic or other documentation so I did > not attempt to align it. It did better on shortwave with a 4 foot antenna > than a radio shack DX-398. > > The owner bought it at a PX in Okinawa in about 1958 and gave it to his > parents as a gift from whom he subsequently inherited it. > > Some time ago I posted about documentation for this radio on several forums. > A guy that was familiar with RCA service documentation wrote to tell me that > RCA did not stock service documentation on this and that the schematic was > included with the radio. Apparently it was sold for several years, starting > in about 1955. If anyone has the documentation for this, I would appreciate > even though the radio is working ok now. > > The main repairs that I did were to replace the coupling and tone control > capacitors and to replace the EM-34 with a 1629 (using a voltage doubling > circuit to get the 12 volt filament voltage for the 1629. > > The initial problem that caused it to not work at all, was that a capacitor > in the B+ supply to the rf amplifier had a dc resistance of 280 ohms. The > resistor that fed the plate voltage worked well as a fuse ,but burned so > thoroughly that I did not know exactly what value to use. I experimented to > find a value that generated appropriate values for the relationships between > the grid and plate voltages, according to an RCA tube manual that I have - I > think that the rf amplifier is a 6BE6 but I cannot find my notes from > working on the radio and I have returned the radio to its owner. > > In any event I thought that it is an interesting radio and that someone > might have an interest in it. The cabinet is almost identical to that of an > RCA 9-INT-1 table radio, although the chassis supports and the dial are > different. > > A note of apology about the photographs - they are a little on the large > side - I reduced them from their original size and cropped them to reduce > the posting size, but they are still large. A further apology - this is the > first radio that I have photographed, so more art could be brought to the > taking of the photographs and the image brightness and contrast > adjustments!! > > Allan > > > Article: 322824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Strange antique phonograph program on shortwave From: Larry References: <11ipj1pgcodp6c0@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:04:57 -0400 norm wrote in news:dglql3$rep$1@online.de: > Thanks, I am just listening to it right now, pretty cool! > > Quite welcome. BBC has one of the finest record collections on the planet. The collection is also about as scratch-free as can be found...and they are digitizing the whole collection for future generations. When you get bored with that, give Radio Eviva in Zurich a listen: http://www.eviva.ch Click on Eviva Live's little musical note on the left panel then when that comes up click on the Skypro logo. It's only 22Kbps so even the dailup cheapskates can listen to it. IN spite of the low bandwidth, it sound just fine in monophonic, which helps it sound more high fi. They play a crazy mix of Swiss folk music (lots of accordions, base violas, pianos and clarinets). I just booted it up and it was playing a caribbean mambo at the moment. Oops...news time, in German of course. I have a friend Werner, AA4IX, who is from Thun in Berner Oberland. He couldn't believe it when I booted Radio Eviva on his computer. Even Radio Berner Oberland, from right down the Lake of Thun from his home, is on the internet. They play Swiss oldtime music from 10:30PM to midnight EDT. I used to put that on cassette for him before he got a computer. The news on Radio Eviva is talking about Hurricane Katrina and the new one bearing down on Key West. My German is awful....Ugly American...(c; -- Larry Article: 322825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Radio interfrence from ........ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:07:55 -0230 Somewhat off topic but in a way not so? While talking about old-time radio programmes, pre TV era with an acquaintance with not a great deal of technical background he claimed the following. His parents home was in a small coastal community that received its first electricity some 50 years ago. About 40-45 years ago they had some single bulb light fixtures into which had been fitted some sort of electricity saving 'button'. He would have been about age 10 at the time. The buttons had been purchased through some magazine article (such as Practical Mechanics) some years before that. I too vaguely seem to remember those being advertised? Understood it was a round disc which was placed into the lamp socket and then the bulb was screwed back in. I've always presumed it was some sort of diode or maybe a disc type of resistor? Or maybe it was just 'snake oil' advertising? But I've never actually seen one! Anyway; he claimed that they had one or two of these 'energy saving buttons' that caused a 'buzzing' type radio interference on certain stations, when those lights were switched on, especially at night when they listened to more distant places. Night time 'skip'. Maybe the interference was just some sort of loose or heated connection; but the way he described it it sounds as though the interference was more coherent than that. He claimed he could tune up and down the AM band when those particular lights were switched and would get the buzzing noise at certain points on the dial. With those lights off the buzz disappeared! Any idea what those 'electricity saving' buttons were and how they could/might have affected radio reception. BTW there were no high power broadcast transmitters around that area AFIK, it was outlying on the Atlantic coast. The famous Cape Race station was maybe 50 miles away but it would not have been radiating continuous signals and in fact some/much of its transmission, in those days, would have been morse (CW) and therefore easier to identify even by someone who was not familiar with the code. Any comment welcome. Article: 322826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Fluke 30022 digital meter question References: <2p1si19jp4f9r43devgo8ggu9feon1orsu@4ax.com> <7XnXe.5615$Cg.2723@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1f4si1dg7duhiuorvvn2kgh56han2lnb4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:23:06 GMT I have one of these but have not got around to really using it. The little window is an option where a meter would be to indicate the charge state of the internal batteries. I have the manual but it is too big to copy with lots of big fold outs. Blacksmith wrote: > It is, and I'm fuming right now. Nixie tubes light up and I can set > voltage to 0.000 using the adjuster on the right. > > I just hooked jumper wires to the terminals and tried to measure a > resistor. It shows 19.99 no matter what range, or what resistor. > > A flashlight battery shows 0 volts, yet 1.6 volts on my other meter. > > There's a little window on the left of the nixie display that never > displays anything. > > This is the second time a flea-market guy assured me that a meter > works when it doesn't. Last time it was for $35, this time for $24. I > never saw the last guy, and probably will never see this guy again > either. > > I don't lie to people, and it sure burns me when others lie to me. > > Please tell me I'm doing something wrong here: Jumper on the middle > terminal, jumper on the bottom terminal, ohms selected, range button > on right selected. > > What does the small window on the right show? > > On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:50:11 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus > wrote: > > >> >>Blacksmith wrote: >> >>>Ooops! >>>It's an 8120A. >> >>Check it again, is it really an 8012 benchtop? I have one of those. >> >>Jeff > > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 322827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Fluke 30022 digital meter question References: <2p1si19jp4f9r43devgo8ggu9feon1orsu@4ax.com> <7XnXe.5615$Cg.2723@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1f4si1dg7duhiuorvvn2kgh56han2lnb4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: <98yXe.68857$PM3.41598@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:26:45 GMT One other thing is you need to have that link connected between the blue and black terminals. Lou deGonzague wrote: > I have one of these but have not got around to really using it. The > little window is an option where a meter would be to indicate the charge > state of the internal batteries. I have the manual but it is too big to > copy with lots of big fold outs. > > Blacksmith wrote: > >> It is, and I'm fuming right now. Nixie tubes light up and I can set >> voltage to 0.000 using the adjuster on the right. >> >> I just hooked jumper wires to the terminals and tried to measure a >> resistor. It shows 19.99 no matter what range, or what resistor. >> >> A flashlight battery shows 0 volts, yet 1.6 volts on my other meter. >> >> There's a little window on the left of the nixie display that never >> displays anything. >> >> This is the second time a flea-market guy assured me that a meter >> works when it doesn't. Last time it was for $35, this time for $24. I >> never saw the last guy, and probably will never see this guy again >> either. >> >> I don't lie to people, and it sure burns me when others lie to me. >> >> Please tell me I'm doing something wrong here: Jumper on the middle >> terminal, jumper on the bottom terminal, ohms selected, range button >> on right selected. >> What does the small window on the right show? >> >> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 00:50:11 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Blacksmith wrote: >>> >>>> Ooops! >>>> It's an 8120A. >>> >>> >>> Check it again, is it really an 8012 benchtop? I have one of those. >>> >>> Jeff >> >> >> >> .... >> Blacksmith >> >> >> >> ... >> Radio Literature on disc. >> 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. >> 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. >> Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. >> Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. >> Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. >> Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook >> -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 322828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Radio interfrence from ........ Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:47:14 -0600 Message-ID: <25027-432EB352-737@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: I remember those too . I believe they were a simple thermistor to soften the blow of current at first to help make bulbs last longer . Sounds like a good way to start a fire ! Article: 322829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Kutztown, Kutztown, yeah, yeah . . . Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:57:52 GMT First off, I'm glad Kutztown was such a success. However you must admit that it's a long, long way from Sarasota which means it's hard for me to attend. I understand this event is hosted by Renninger's, which also a location (with some events) in Mt. Dora. Possibly one of these days I'll head in that direction to see what's happening. Meanwhile, we have a humble little tri-annual swap meet here is Sarasota. It's enjoyable, but it's small. With any luck, that's about to change. The next date is the first Saturday in December, but I've already been doing my homework -- I've got three new dealers interested, and at least one of them has quite an inventory that he's excited about bringing to the event. I'm just getting started -- we'll see what happens. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com