Article: 325894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Heathkit Power Supply References: <1131875353.547388.34130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7tJdf.7$rY5.4@fed1read04> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:37:40 -0500 I'd like to see it, but my server can't get it. ????? Ken Bob in Phx wrote: > completely MAD!!!!!! Who ever is working on his is totally out of their > mind!!!! But it is amazing... > "retroteckh" wrote in message > news:1131875353.547388.34130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >> >>http://retrotech.ca/HeathkitPowSup.shtml/HeathKitpowSup.htm >> > > > Article: 325895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:31:53 -0700 Message-ID: <29588-43776A79-611@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Hay that webcam works pretty good on webtv ! i saw 3 changes . I have had several capacitors chewed in radios . One now has a coil all chewed up . Ya know if some of that wiring in that is undisturbed you dont have to repace it . Article: 325896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sox_in_2006" References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> <1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:08:43 -0500 Clinton lied, no one died? Tell that to the families of the people from the Aspirin factory that he wagged the dog and bombed to get out of his felony. "SueB" wrote in message news:1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > WTF is this doing in alt.fashion? > > Sue > > "Clinton lied, but no one died." > Article: 325897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:32:00 -0700 Message-ID: <29588-43777890-680@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <22430-43702E78-121@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net> At least 3 times now i have been able to tone a brass piece with home made toner . The trick is to use a HVLP detail gun and adjust it way down so it puts out a fine mist . The results are stunning . I cannot tell how tough this finish is because i have to tested that . The coats go on pretty thin and of coarse each coat gets darker . I would be in favor of using poly on brass simply because its tougher . I have not tried to mix stain with poly . Article: 325898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: 1926 Homebrew radio.... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:52:20 GMT Well, at least somebody bought that from Bill... I'll have some pictures posted in a week or two and a few "What's typical" questions about the design and tubes used. Are there functional solid state equivalents to the 01 for example? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Olympic tube portable radio Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:59:22 -0500 Has anyone ever seen a radio like this? This radio has a tube chassis but transistors plugged into the tube sockets. Looks like Olympic converted their tube portable into a transistor portable so they did not have to retool their assembly line. Click here for the photo. http://www.tuberadios.com/ebay/olympic.jpg This belongs to a friend of mine, I have to repair it. Regards, Sal Brisindi Article: 325900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:06:10 -0500 Sal Brisindi wrote: > Has anyone ever seen a radio like this? This radio has a tube chassis > but transistors plugged into the tube sockets. Looks like Olympic > converted their tube portable into a transistor portable so they did not > have to retool their assembly line. Click here for the photo. > http://www.tuberadios.com/ebay/olympic.jpg > > This belongs to a friend of mine, I have to repair it. > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi > The layout diagram shows standard transistor sockets, even though the radio is built with what looks like 8 pin submin tube sockets. 8 pin submini tubes had wire leads the same diameter as early transistor leads, so the submini sockets made good transistor sockets. Could be they had surplus of the tube sockets. Article: 325901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43779268.1E229D07@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:22:16 -0500 7 pins but who's counting.. ;-). I bet Olympic used transistor sockets in their later production run, they figured why not use the old tube chassis to save money. I have to find the schematic for both the tube and transistor version to see the differences. How good can a 4 transistor radio be. What you can't see is a larger transistor mounted to the chassis for heat dissipation where the 3V4 would have plugged in on the right side of the chassis. Sal Brisindi Ken Scharf wrote: > Sal Brisindi wrote: > > Has anyone ever seen a radio like this? This radio has a tube chassis > > but transistors plugged into the tube sockets. Looks like Olympic > > converted their tube portable into a transistor portable so they did not > > have to retool their assembly line. Click here for the photo. > > http://www.tuberadios.com/ebay/olympic.jpg > > > > This belongs to a friend of mine, I have to repair it. > > > > Regards, > > Sal Brisindi > > > The layout diagram shows standard transistor sockets, even though > the radio is built with what looks like 8 pin submin tube sockets. > 8 pin submini tubes had wire leads the same diameter as early > transistor leads, so the submini sockets made good transistor > sockets. Could be they had surplus of the tube sockets. Article: 325902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:13:55 -0700 Message-ID: <29588-43779073-706@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes i have .. wayyy back when i was a kid i saw very few though . Article: 325903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:16:11 -0700 Message-ID: <29590-437790FB-53@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <492dneZLLNSaF-reRVn-hw@comcast.com> I forgot about those .. i try to avoid poly :-) but it may be good here Its probably to thick out of can to spray ? Article: 325904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:06:07 GMT "philo" wrote in message news:cLWdnRyewdOM4OreRVn-jQ@athenet.net... > > > even those who refinish their radios > generally destroy them in the process > as you can *always* tell they have been re-done. Like this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6578590251 jim menning Article: 325905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:16:56 GMT On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:04:34 GMT, "Luke Turner" wrote: > >"Jim Mueller" wrote in message news:pan.2005.11.13.05.43.51.188044@nospam.com... >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:58:33 +0000, Luke Turner wrote: >> >> > >> > "philo" wrote in message >> > news:pan.2005.11.12.11.28.42.13907@privacy.net... >> >> >> >> >> >> told by the previous owner that it was working up to a few years ago, >> >> > then their son took a valve out and it of course, stopped working. >> >> > It has a very good cabinet for its age, approximately 1920 or so, no >> > chips >> >> > or scratches on the veneer, it has a small half crescent moon type of >> > dial >> >> > approximately 5" across numbered 0 - 100 right to left. >> >> > I would like to get this radio going if possible and would appreciate >> > any >> >> > help with circuit diagram and the history of the N.K.T. radio. >> >> > Thanks >> >> > Luke >> >> > VK3ALV >> >> >> >> >> >> it would help if you could give a lot more info... >> >> and also include a link to a good photo of the chassis >> > >> > Sorry, this is all the info I can get, there is no other indication on the >> > cabinet or chassis as to where the radio is made nor is there any circuit >> > diagram that used to accompany every radio and was stuck on the cabinet >> > somewhere, it seems the previous owners didn't like that piece of paper and >> > took it off. >> > I had thought the radio was made in Denmark, but a search hasn't come up >> > with anything. >> > I don't really want to take the chassis out of the cabinet if possible, but >> > if nothing comes out of my request, then I will. >> > I thought maybe with the name, there would be someone who would remember the >> > brand and as it is in completely original condition, almost showroom quality >> > apart from water stains on the top from a flower vase, I am a bit adverse >> > to taking it apart. >> > Thanks for your reply. >> > >> > Luke >> >> Can you tell us the types of tubes that are still there? Many radios had >> "standard" tube line-ups and we could make an educated guess at the >> missing one. Knowing the tube types would also let us get a better idea >> of when it was made and maybe even where it was made (at least what part >> of the world). >> >> -- >> Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com >> >> To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. >> Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. > >Thanks Jim for your reply. >the valves are as follows. > >1 x "80" >1 x "36" aluminum can shielded >2 x "39" > 44 aluminum can shielded >1 x "38" >1 x unknown smaller valve about 4" high x 1" cant get it out of the socket to see >1 x empty socket, could be a "38" but not sure, >it is next to the socket with the "38" > >They are RCA Radiotron and Ken Rad valves > >I think the numbers are right as my eyes are not what I would like them to be > >Luke Just a wild guess, but could it be an emmerson? Luke, maybe you can find one that looks similar on the web and point us to the pic? Article: 325906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:23:48 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: 1926 Homebrew radio.... References: Message-ID: <91118$4377a0d6$4232bd7b$11724@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Are there functional solid state equivalents to the 01 for > example? I must have missed the beginning of this thread. Did you win that homebrew set I saw you bidding on? Nope, no SS equivalents. There are some little equivalent circuits but they are unique to the tube's position in the lineup. Here's and example. http://www.sparkbench.com/fet01a.jpg Have fun with the little feller. -Bill Article: 325907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:43:01 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Alignment clarification needed. References: <5583-43775A1D-405@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Blacksmith wrote: > > Still a little confused. I'm getting that if the signal is correct on > the generator and the signal shows up at say 580 KC after adjusting > the trimmer for 1500 KC, then I should turn the padder screw until I > hear the signal while the dial is set at 600. > > Is that correct? > > But then rocking won't do anything because the signal will already be > strongest at 600 KC because I just made the signal move over to the > 600 mark on the dial. > > So what's the purpose in rocking while turning the screw. It seems to > me that when you rock the tuner you go back and forth across the > strongest part of the signal. Turning the padder screw when you've > rocked past the strongest part will just... I really don't know what > it will do. Seems like you would get the same effect by just going to > where the signal is strongest and turn the screw till it's stronger if > possible. > > Or is rocking it while turning the screw a way of making the signal > move across the dial to where you want it? > .... > Blacksmith I'm gonna get in trouble with the old-timers and book-larners here... The rocking routine is done with the concept that rf-to-osc tracking is more important than dial calibration and the latter is to be sacrificed if needs be. I personally opt for dial calibration and can't say I've ever felt that the RF/ant tracking was enough of an issue to justify screwing up the dial reading. -Bill Article: 325908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Shellac Message-ID: References: <11ncukp1jit8d60@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:44:23 GMT >I followed advice often heard on the Forum to use degreased #000 >steel wool as a final prep of bare hardwood. No, you cannot see the >scratches later. I have been trying this liquid "wool lube" that i picked up a couple of weeks ago. I got from mowhawk. this stuff works great. it is like soap, and you add a little squirt of it to a saucer of water to dip the steel wool in now and then. it stops the little bits from going all over, and it prevents the wool from rusting. It helps stop the wool from being too abrasive and scratching. I am very impressed. Phil Article: 325909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: old, cold sloder joints Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:26:54 GMT I have a question about old solder joints. I've heard that the new lead free solder will not hold up over the long term, but is it normal for old solder joints to get cold as they age? Working on the Clough-Brengle transmitter I've found a lot of really cold (loose) solder joints, where the wire that was soldered has just broken free of the solder. If the solder joints were this cold when it was built it could not have worked most of the loose joints are in the antenna coils and the plate cap leads to the final tubes. These look like original solder joints, they aren't any shiner that any of the others in the transmitter. Does anyone know what I can use to age new solder joints? I really don't want to have a bunch of shiny solder joints in this thing. 73, Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87project.html Article: 325910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Luke Turner" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:38:03 GMT "philo" wrote in message news:MI-dnVdoLu2C8ureRVn-sg@athenet.net... > > > 1 x "80" > > 1 x "36" aluminum can shielded > > 2 x "_39_" > > 44 aluminum can shielded > > 1 x "38" > > 1 x unknown smaller valve about 4" high x 1" cant get it out of the > > socket to see > > 1 x empty socket, could be a "38" but not sure, > > it is next to the socket with the "38" > > __ > > > the 38 and 39/44 are similar tubes > if the empty socket has a grid cap lying there unatteched > and is also 5 pin the missing tube could very well be a type 38 > > of course wait for others to reply before trying anything > or looking for a replacement I thought the same thing but as you say, I was waiting for a more expert opinion before embarking on that project although I didn't know those two valves were similar I emailed photos to you, if your email address is right Article: 325911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:01:10 -0500 The joints should be shiny to be good electrically. I think what you need is a method to "dull" the outward appearance of the solder joint-- a means to make it look aged. I wonder what chemical will give lead an aged patina? Peter Article: 325912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:04:51 -0500 I have seen some solder on old equipment crumble, while other joints close by are perfect. Must be age related. Ken Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > I have a question about old solder joints. > I've heard that the new lead free solder will not hold up > over the long term, but is it normal for old solder > joints to get cold as they age? > Working on the Clough-Brengle transmitter I've found > a lot of really cold (loose) solder joints, where the wire > that was soldered has just broken free of the solder. > If the solder joints were this cold when it was built > it could not have worked most of the loose joints are > in the antenna coils and the plate cap leads to the final > tubes. These look like original solder joints, they aren't > any shiner that any of the others in the transmitter. > > Does anyone know what I can use to age new solder > joints? I really don't want to have a bunch of shiny > solder joints in this thing. > > 73, Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87project.html Article: 325913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:07:40 -0500 Someone knows, I've seen it on this ng. Ken Uncle Peter wrote: > The joints should be shiny to be good electrically. > > I think what you need is > a method to "dull" the outward appearance of the solder joint-- > a means to make it look aged. I wonder what chemical will > give lead an aged patina? > > Peter > > Article: 325914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Transistor Repair/History Website Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:28:40 -0500 Message-ID: After several years of repairing Zenith transistor radios, I opened an Internet storefront last Friday. In addition to my business solicitation, the site a good bit of history, a Zenith transistor cross-reference, an links to some in-depth Zenith transistor radio history, and transistor history. The website's name is www.transistor-repairs.com Those who enjoy these little radios, might want to have to look. Thanks. Jim Barnard Jim's Transistor Restorations Specializing in Zenth Transistor Radios Article: 325915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> <1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: <47Pdf.1958$ZA3.396701@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:29:20 GMT OK, it was fun and now I mark it ignore. "Sox_in_2006" wrote in message news:euKdf.22123$7s1.20924@fe04.lga... > Clinton lied, no one died? Tell that to the families of the people from the > Aspirin factory that he wagged the dog and bombed to get out of his felony. > > > "SueB" wrote in message > news:1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > WTF is this doing in alt.fashion? > > > > Sue > > > > "Clinton lied, but no one died." > > > > Article: 325916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:33:29 GMT It's not. "Luke Turner" wrote in message news:%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > "philo" wrote in message > news:MI-dnVdoLu2C8ureRVn-sg@athenet.net... > > > > > 1 x "80" > > > 1 x "36" aluminum can shielded > > > 2 x "_39_" > > > 44 aluminum can shielded > > > 1 x "38" > > > 1 x unknown smaller valve about 4" high x 1" cant get it out of the > > > socket to see > > > 1 x empty socket, could be a "38" but not sure, > > > it is next to the socket with the "38" > > > __ > > > > > > the 38 and 39/44 are similar tubes > > if the empty socket has a grid cap lying there unatteched > > and is also 5 pin the missing tube could very well be a type 38 > > > > of course wait for others to reply before trying anything > > or looking for a replacement > > I thought the same thing but as you say, > I was waiting for a more expert opinion before embarking on that project > although I didn't know those two valves were similar > I emailed photos to you, if your email address is right > > Article: 325917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4377C17E.8B462E9@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:43:11 -0500 I found this little neat website on the Olympic transistor radio. You can chek it out here. http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/olympic.html Regards, Sal Sal Brisindi wrote: > Has anyone ever seen a radio like this? This radio has a tube chassis > but transistors plugged into the tube sockets. Looks like Olympic > converted their tube portable into a transistor portable so they did not > have to retool their assembly line. Click here for the photo. > http://www.tuberadios.com/ebay/olympic.jpg > > This belongs to a friend of mine, I have to repair it. > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi Article: 325918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:49:49 -0500 Message-ID: <11nfgojlsv11ja7@corp.supernews.com> References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> philo wrote: > > as you can *always* tell they have been re-done. NO, not mine :) John H. Article: 325919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <29588-43776A79-611@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:54:14 GMT Unfortunately, much of the wiring that is undisturbed will have to move for me to get to some of the caps. I'm just going ahead and replacing each rubber wire one by one. I've found that most of the cloth covered wiring is in good shape, and I've only replace one of those so far. I've also found that there are some caps that were replaced along the way years ago, but don't match the original values. There are also some parallel caps to make up for parts that weren't on hand. Oddly, there are some Philco brand caps in places where they aren't on the diagram or parts list. Luckily I ordered extras. I'm going to trace those out on the schematic to see if they are there. This is a code 121 chassis, so it should match. This will be an interesting one. Jon "Ken G." wrote in message news:29588-43776A79-611@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > Hay that webcam works pretty good on webtv ! i saw 3 changes . I have > had several capacitors chewed in radios . One now has a coil all chewed > up . > > Ya know if some of that wiring in that is undisturbed you dont have to > repace it . > Article: 325920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:47:22 -0700 Message-ID: <20558-4377C27A-1037@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> References: Check out leaded glass places. They have a solution that turns the lead kames dark. DON AC7PD Article: 325921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4377c6de$0$11061$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints References: Date: 13 Nov 2005 23:06:06 GMT Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > I have a question about old solder joints. > I've heard that the new lead free solder will not hold up > over the long term, but is it normal for old solder > joints to get cold as they age? > Working on the Clough-Brengle transmitter I've found > a lot of really cold (loose) solder joints, where the wire > that was soldered has just broken free of the solder. > If the solder joints were this cold when it was built > it could not have worked most of the loose joints are > in the antenna coils and the plate cap leads to the final > tubes. These look like original solder joints, they aren't > any shiner that any of the others in the transmitter. Solder joints can get 'cold' with age, especially when they are in a place that heats up and cools down regularly or is under mechanical stress. Also, there is a possibilty of oxidation of the wire itself. > Does anyone know what I can use to age new solder > joints? I really don't want to have a bunch of shiny > solder joints in this thing. I have been told leadfree solder will give dull joints. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 325922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:13:24 GMT Jim Barnard wrote: > After several years of repairing Zenith transistor radios, Hay Jim, I like the photo on your home page of the 500H with the Blue ribbon from the Charlotte meet. That was a great program you did a few years ago. Hope to see ya again soon. 73, Ron Article: 325923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:17:18 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints References: Message-ID: Wet them down with acetone and a small brush. That will knock off the shine. -Bill Ken wrote: > Someone knows, I've seen it on this ng. Ken > > Uncle Peter wrote: > >> The joints should be shiny to be good electrically. >> >> I think what you need is >> a method to "dull" the outward appearance of the solder joint-- >> a means to make it look aged. I wonder what chemical will >> give lead an aged patina? >> >> Peter >> >> > Article: 325924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:24:46 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: 1926 Homebrew radio.... References: <91118$4377a0d6$4232bd7b$11724@COQUI.NET> <1131917608.375163.144290@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5cfc8$4377cb6c$4232bea1$19360@COQUI.NET> Jim Strickland wrote: > Bill wrote: > >>Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> >>>Are there functional solid state equivalents to the 01 for >>>example? >> >> > > If memory serves, 30s are functionally equivalent save that they pull > something like 1/10 the filament current. They're also fairly readily > available. It would involve some kind of socket adapter or a change of > socket though. > > -Jim > No, a 30 will plug right in but you can count on losing rheostat control because of the low current. But nowadays the prices for 30s seems to be approaching that of 01As! 01As remain relatively inexpensive and very easy to find. That said, for a little 2 or 3 toob battery homebrew set with no particular heritage that needs preserving it makes much better sense to use a 30. Strong possibility thats what it used anyway. -Bill Article: 325925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4377CCA3.F60AC022@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website References: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:30:43 -0500 Jim, Great website, great reading also on the Zenith radio history. Very informative. Regards, Sal Brisindi Jim Barnard wrote: > After several years of repairing Zenith transistor radios, I opened an > Internet storefront last Friday. In addition to my business solicitation, > the site a good bit of history, a Zenith transistor cross-reference, an > links to some in-depth Zenith transistor radio history, and transistor > history. The website's name is www.transistor-repairs.com > > Those who enjoy these little radios, might want to have to look. Thanks. > > Jim Barnard > Jim's Transistor Restorations > Specializing in Zenth Transistor Radios Article: 325926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints References: <20558-4377C27A-1037@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:03:59 GMT Gridleak wrote: > Check out leaded glass places. They have a solution that turns the lead > kames dark. > Don, that's a great idea, I give it a try. Ron Article: 325927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:35:37 GMT Thank you for contributing this link. They are indeed fascinating sets especially for those such as I who would remove the backs and stare in wonder not knowing what all those things were or how they worked, and cursing privately that those 19 cent 9 volts that I could barely afford didn't quite ever make it to my next allowance (had to buy candy, stamp collecting supplies and Superman comics you know). "Jim Barnard" wrote in message news:dl8emj$poi$1@news3.infoave.net... > After several years of repairing Zenith transistor radios, I opened an > Internet storefront last Friday. In addition to my business solicitation, > the site a good bit of history, a Zenith transistor cross-reference, an > links to some in-depth Zenith transistor radio history, and transistor > history. The website's name is www.transistor-repairs.com > > Those who enjoy these little radios, might want to have to look. Thanks. > > Jim Barnard > Jim's Transistor Restorations > Specializing in Zenth Transistor Radios > > Article: 325928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:01:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4377d3f0$0$14123$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I have one myself. Also have the tube predecessor. "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net... > Has anyone ever seen a radio like this? This radio has a tube chassis > but transistors plugged into the tube sockets. Looks like Olympic > converted their tube portable into a transistor portable so they did not > have to retool their assembly line. Click here for the photo. > http://www.tuberadios.com/ebay/olympic.jpg > > This belongs to a friend of mine, I have to repair it. > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi > Article: 325929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:12:57 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> <4377d3f0$0$14123$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Message-ID: Thats hilarious! -Bill Bill Morris wrote: > I have one myself. Also have the tube predecessor. > > > "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > news:43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net... > >>Has anyone ever seen a radio like this? This radio has a tube chassis >>but transistors plugged into the tube sockets. Looks like Olympic >>converted their tube portable into a transistor portable so they did not >>have to retool their assembly line. Click here for the photo. >>http://www.tuberadios.com/ebay/olympic.jpg >> >>This belongs to a friend of mine, I have to repair it. >> >>Regards, >>Sal Brisindi >> > > > From adouglasatgis.net Thu Nov 17 00:31:08 EST 2005 Article: 325930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:01:30 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: <9ekfn15co4e1ellqq4eir8m3ckbnv8fpu5@4ax.com> References: <8xJdf.1103$c27.580@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-276.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325930 Hi, This could go on for a while. Araldite: epoxy (J B Weld is popular here though I've never used it) Ebonite: hard rubber RCA plug and phono plug are both used here. When you think about it, this may eventually be RCA's only permanent legacy. The trade name certainly isn't worth squat these days. I thought wander plugs were halfway between pin plugs (phone tips) and banana plugs in size, and had split pins. But don't quote me. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Thu Nov 17 00:31:08 EST 2005 Article: 325931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:08:27 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 4 Message-ID: <2alfn1dk3plug5j5defipsi75s92k35bc4@4ax.com> References: <20558-4377C27A-1037@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-924.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325931 Hi, Copper sulfate solution applied with an artist's brush. Alan Article: 325932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: CC-AWA Event Schedule References: <-9GdnTb8VNmUT-reRVn-ug@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:12:23 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > Ron, would you guys like me to do a seminar at Charlotte again? Mark, email me direct and let's talk about it. I think I can fit you into the schedule. A good repair talk would be great. Thanks for the offer. Ron Article: 325933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <437157b7$0$63054$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 00:17:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4377db3e$0$18855$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> "Steven Swift" wrote in message news:dl3dup$gq9$1@eskinews.eskimo.com... > "Martin Crossley" writes: >>>Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. > >>Negatory, good buddy. By and large, transformer operated color chasses >>were isolated from the AC line. >> In fact the 'hot chassis' practice was abandoned long >>before the advent of color TV sets. > > Oh no I didn't! > Almost all of the "small" color TV sets (19" down) were Hot-chassis. You > could get any number of filament strings by picking 300ma, 450ma, 600ma, > etc. line ups. Hence, all the funky tubes with prefixes like 13, 17, 33, > etc. Pretty much the only sets with transformers were console. > > Steve. > -- > Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com > NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 > 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:40:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: Ron: Thanks for your comments; I always enjoy talking about these little jewels. Jim "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:oMPdf.300$q93.171493@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Jim Barnard wrote: >> After several years of repairing Zenith transistor radios, > > Hay Jim, I like the photo on your home page of the > 500H with the Blue ribbon from the Charlotte meet. > That was a great program you did a few years ago. > > Hope to see ya again soon. > > 73, Ron Article: 325935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4377DEA9.81039E6E@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> <4377d3f0$0$14123$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:47:38 -0500 Bill, Wow, thats great, it makes me want to find both of them for my collection. Regards, Sal Bill Morris wrote: > I have one myself. Also have the tube predecessor. > Article: 325936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1131924693.890269.305120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Michael: All the pix should be there now; thanks for calling this to my attention. Jim "michaeljpro" wrote in message news:1131924693.890269.305120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Great site Jim, > I am a big fan of Zenith transistor radios having several of them in my > collection (including an early version of the handwired Royal 500). I > agree that the > 500H is perhaps the best sounding "pocket" radio. Quite sensitive and > nice tone. > I will bookmark your site and will visit again. > By the way, some of the pics didn't load, not sure if it's my > computer.... > let's see if it happens to anyone else. > > Michael. > Article: 325937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Shellac Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:43:05 -0500 Message-ID: <11nfqtgcpj6stf0@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ncukp1jit8d60@corp.supernews.com> <1131928071.931213.82680@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > > Why would you put water soaked steel wool on wood? He said it was "like soap". Wool Lube is no doubt some sort of oil based product. Myself I use mineral spirits for rubbing. It reduces corning- potential scratchy lumps on the paper or wool. John H. Article: 325938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:32:27 -0700 Message-ID: <16203-4377E92B-707@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: Hi Jim i also repair all sorts or transistor radios . Please note i can rebuild those round speakers from the 500 series . Article: 325939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:39:25 -0700 Message-ID: <16204-4377EACD-195@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <_hRdf.317$q93.180099@twister.southeast.rr.com> When i desire a more dull looking solder i will go ahead and make the usuall new solder joint then use a real fine wire brush to dull it down then sometimes after the brush rub my fingers on it . this does not darken , it removes the new shine . Article: 325940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:57:27 GMT "philo" wrote in message news:vMydnXE96MR3f-reRVn-pQ@athenet.net... > jim menning wrote: >> "philo" wrote in message >> news:cLWdnRyewdOM4OreRVn-jQ@athenet.net... >> >>> >>>even those who refinish their radios >>>generally destroy them in the process >>>as you can *always* tell they have been re-done. >> >> >> Like this one? >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6578590251 >> >> jim menning >> >> > well > from the picture it looks original Then your monitor is faulty. You can't see how blotchy the top is, the mismatched toning, and the ring of crud on the front 1/2 inch up from the bottom? jim menning Article: 325941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131924693.890269.305120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 01:58:44 GMT There is no picture of the lone 1965 set you feature and the link is disabled. "Jim Barnard" wrote in message news:dl8ogo$u83$1@news3.infoave.net... > Michael: > > All the pix should be there now; thanks for calling this to my attention. > > Jim > "michaeljpro" wrote in message > news:1131924693.890269.305120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > Great site Jim, > > I am a big fan of Zenith transistor radios having several of them in my > > collection (including an early version of the handwired Royal 500). I > > agree that the > > 500H is perhaps the best sounding "pocket" radio. Quite sensitive and > > nice tone. > > I will bookmark your site and will visit again. > > By the way, some of the pics didn't load, not sure if it's my > > computer.... > > let's see if it happens to anyone else. > > > > Michael. > > > > Article: 325942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <437157b7$0$63054$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> <4377db3e$0$18855$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:00:42 GMT "Martin Crossley" wrote in message news:4377db3e$0$18855$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... > > "Steven Swift" wrote in message > news:dl3dup$gq9$1@eskinews.eskimo.com... > > "Martin Crossley" writes: > >>>Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. > > > >>Negatory, good buddy. By and large, transformer operated color chasses > >>were isolated from the AC line. > >> In fact the 'hot chassis' practice was abandoned long > >>before the advent of color TV sets. > > > > > > Oh no I didn't! You didn't what? Have you crossed threads? I'm not following your line. > > > Almost all of the "small" color TV sets (19" down) were Hot-chassis. You > > could get any number of filament strings by picking 300ma, 450ma, 600ma, > > etc. line ups. Hence, all the funky tubes with prefixes like 13, 17, 33, > > etc. Pretty much the only sets with transformers were console. > > > > Steve. > > -- > > Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com > > NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 > > 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA > > Article: 325943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:03:35 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <8e9f0$4377f078$4232bea1$28126@COQUI.NET> jim menning wrote: > > Then your monitor is faulty. You can't see how blotchy the top is, the mismatched > toning, and the ring of crud on the front 1/2 inch up from the bottom? > > jim menning > > What toning? I think it looks like a square pumpkin. -B Article: 325944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:04:09 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:baSdf.239$vq1.87@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "philo" wrote in message > news:vMydnXE96MR3f-reRVn-pQ@athenet.net... > > jim menning wrote: > >> "philo" wrote in message > >> news:cLWdnRyewdOM4OreRVn-jQ@athenet.net... > >> > >>> > >>>even those who refinish their radios > >>>generally destroy them in the process > >>>as you can *always* tell they have been re-done. > >> > >> > >> Like this one? > >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6578590251 > >> > >> jim menning > >> > >> > > well > > from the picture it looks original > > Then your monitor is faulty. You can't see how blotchy the top is, the mismatched > toning, and the ring of crud on the front 1/2 inch up from the bottom? > > jim menning Maybe his monitor needs caps. A couple WE tubes maybe. Seriously, does that set play? You can cure the mumps later. Article: 325945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: LAB: Voltmeter from milliammeter Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:15:42 GMT I'm going to place a big (one of the 600 i've got from automotive equipment) ammeter (1mA,27ohms) at the variac output. Max voltage should be 300V so a 300Kohm resistor is needed in series. How many Watts should be the resistor, half, 1, 2.... if the nominal output of the variac is rated at 4A? -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> <8e9f0$4377f078$4232bea1$28126@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:16:38 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:8e9f0$4377f078$4232bea1$28126@COQUI.NET... > jim menning wrote: > > >> >> Then your monitor is faulty. You can't see how blotchy the top is, the mismatched >> toning, and the ring of crud on the front 1/2 inch up from the bottom? >> >> jim menning > > What toning? > I think it looks like a square pumpkin. > > -B It's oranger than a '39 Philco console in direct sunlight! jim menning Article: 325947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: national yard sale listings References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:16:55 -0600 Mark Oppat wrote: > this might be interesting... its some kind of national yard sale listings, > from newspaper ads I think... If you like "serious" yard sales - we hold one once a year... it's becoming a very large event (500+ miles). It's scheduled for May 18-21 2006... We're at the start. http://www.us11antiquealley.com/ Y'all come! best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 325948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <437157b7$0$63054$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> <4377db3e$0$18855$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Message-ID: <_xSdf.243$vq1.43@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:22:50 GMT "Martin Crossley" wrote in message news:4377db3e$0$18855$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... > > "Steven Swift" wrote in message > news:dl3dup$gq9$1@eskinews.eskimo.com... >> "Martin Crossley" writes: >>>>Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. >> >>>Negatory, good buddy. By and large, transformer operated color chasses >>>were isolated from the AC line. >>> In fact the 'hot chassis' practice was abandoned long >>>before the advent of color TV sets. >> >> > > Oh no I didn't! > Martin --- I think the confusion comes form your earlier post not correctly attributing prior quotes to the proper person. The post of Bill's that you replied to shows no tick marks or other signals differentiating Bill's words from your own words. jim menning Article: 325949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: LAB: Voltmeter from milliammeter References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:32:56 -0500 Since you're dropping 300v and only pulling 1ma through the resistor, a .5w should do. Ken Daniele wrote: > I'm going to place a big (one of the 600 i've got from > automotive equipment) ammeter (1mA,27ohms) at > the variac output. Max voltage should be 300V > so a 300Kohm resistor is needed in series. > How many Watts should be the resistor, half, 1, 2.... > if the nominal output of the variac is rated at 4A? > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > > Article: 325950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: OT Remagnitizing Phono Magneto Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:10:10 -0500 Message-ID: <11ng00oo4sd0ec3@corp.supernews.com> I am restoring a Kellogg wood wall phone, and would like to make the generator functional again so the bells ring when guest crank it. The big horseshoe magnets have no magnetism, I'm guessing his is why I get 1 volt AC output . What's the best way to remagnetize them, wrap a few turns of wire about the middle and discharge say 1 farad of capacitor charged to 50 volts through it? Thanks, John H. Article: 325951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Heathkit Power Supply Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:16:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131875353.547388.34130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7tJdf.7$rY5.4@fed1read04> ditto randy "Ken" wrote in message news:uZJdf.27180$2k5.11672@dukeread09... > I'd like to see it, but my server can't get it. ????? Ken > > Bob in Phx wrote: > >> completely MAD!!!!!! Who ever is working on his is totally out of their >> mind!!!! But it is amazing... >> "retroteckh" wrote in message >> news:1131875353.547388.34130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> >>> >>>http://retrotech.ca/HeathkitPowSup.shtml/HeathKitpowSup.htm >>> >> >> >> > > Article: 325952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:33:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:26:54 +0000, Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > I have a question about old solder joints. > I've heard that the new lead free solder will not hold up > over the long term, but is it normal for old solder > joints to get cold as they age? > Working on the Clough-Brengle transmitter I've found > a lot of really cold (loose) solder joints, where the wire > that was soldered has just broken free of the solder. > If the solder joints were this cold when it was built > it could not have worked most of the loose joints are > in the antenna coils and the plate cap leads to the final > tubes. These look like original solder joints, they aren't > any shiner that any of the others in the transmitter. > > Does anyone know what I can use to age new solder > joints? I really don't want to have a bunch of shiny > solder joints in this thing. > > 73, Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87project.html Maybe they used 50/50 solder instead of 60/40. Higher lead content makes the solder cheaper but it also makes it dull. Perhaps you can find some of that for your repairs. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank Dresser" References: Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 04:40:14 GMT "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:ycOdf.292$q93.164008@twister.southeast.rr.com... [snip] > > Does anyone know what I can use to age new solder > joints? I really don't want to have a bunch of shiny > solder joints in this thing. > > 73, Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87project.html I've heard guitar restorers have used Naval Jelly to hide thier repairs. Frank Dresser Article: 325954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: LAB: Voltmeter from milliammeter Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:40:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:15:42 +0000, Daniele wrote: > I'm going to place a big (one of the 600 i've got from > automotive equipment) ammeter (1mA,27ohms) at > the variac output. Max voltage should be 300V > so a 300Kohm resistor is needed in series. > How many Watts should be the resistor, half, 1, 2.... > if the nominal output of the variac is rated at 4A? A variac has AC output. A meter from automotive equipment is likely to be DC. You will need a rectifier and will probably have to adjust the resistor value to get the calibration correct. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:36:08 -0800 Message-ID: <20695-43781438-50@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <_xSdf.243$vq1.43@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Uh, sorry for the mixup, everybody. I was the culprit that said: >Negatory, good buddy. By and large, >transformer operated color chasses were >isolated from the AC line. >=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0In fact the 'hot >chassis' practice was abandoned long >before the advent of color TV sets. Possibly the confusion lies in the definition of "hot chassis", which on this side of the pond refers to one side of the line being connected *directly* to the chassis. That practice was abandoned in radios in the '40s, AFAIK. In transformerless TV sets however, the B+ doubler was powered from the line, with its negative pole tied to the chassis, This might be considered a 'half hot' chassis, or bona fide "hot chassis" in British parlance. Dunno for sure. Bill(oc) Article: 325956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:46:13 -0600 Message-ID: <43781a31_1@news1.prserv.net> "N Cook" wrote in message news:dl7aoc$jg3$1@inews.gazeta.pl... >I can never find a translation file for converting commonly used terms for > technical tools and equipment etc in the UK for the equivalent term used > in > the USA , me > > UK term : USA term > > banana plugs : ?, Hmmm, well.they are called banana plugs in the US. You have the term under UK, so I guess you are asking for the US version. As an addenda, the dual plugs with 3/4" or 19 mm spacing are often referred to as GR plugs, after the General Radio Co., who popularized their use on test equipment. Further, their pin diameter and spacing makes them exactly interchangeable with Continental European power sockets, and the steckers on German Enigma machines. Coincidence? -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. Article: 325957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:43:24 -0800 Message-ID: <20694-437815EC-366@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <_xSdf.243$vq1.43@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> P.S. ARRGh. Aha (thumps forehead). British household AC is 230V is it not? That would explain transformerless TV sets being true "hot chassis". Yea or nay? oc Article: 325958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:09:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: this thread makes me wonder. when does a 'well hidden repair' become a 'forgery'? randy > I've heard guitar restorers have used Naval Jelly to hide thier repairs. > > Frank Dresser > > Article: 325959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Touch Based Antenna Message-ID: <739gn15fs5i05nu75epg7sb5ssp7kbikoh@4ax.com> References: <1131941022.205288.258450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:03:34 GMT Gary, I think those would be the grid caps on those RF tubes. Plate connection is on the base. If touching an antenna wire to a grid cap makes the signal come in strong, chances are THAT tube is functioning fine. but maybe the one upstream is dead. I'd be looking at an open antenna coil or interstage transformer? Gordon Richmond Article: 325960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:50:49 -0700 Message-ID: <936-437825B9-144@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net> References: Copper sulfate is available in most hardware stores. It is used to kill roots in your sewer system. There are probably other compounds used to destroy roots so ask for Roto Rooter Root Destroyer and check the ingredient. Should say 99% copper sulfate. DON AC7PD Article: 325961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Message-ID: <4UVdf.1985$ZA3.401555@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:11:12 GMT Solder joints don't qualify for that kind of questioning. They are always necessary and to 'age' them and make the set look 'congruent' if asked for is a good thing. Stuffing components with more modern parts is justifiable also if that is the only method to preserve the original decorum. We cannot expect to find working 1929 parts every day. "xrongor" wrote in message news:dl964h$149s$1@news3.infoave.net... > this thread makes me wonder. when does a 'well hidden repair' become a > 'forgery'? > > randy > > > I've heard guitar restorers have used Naval Jelly to hide thier repairs. > > > > Frank Dresser > > > > > > Article: 325962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:10:47 -0800 Message-ID: References: <8xJdf.1103$c27.580@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <9ekfn15co4e1ellqq4eir8m3ckbnv8fpu5@4ax.com> Alan Douglas wrote: > Hi, > This could go on for a while. > > Araldite: epoxy (J B Weld is popular here though I've never used it) > Araldite is the name of a particular type of epoxy that is apprently sold only in the UK. Set time is very slow but the stuff is unbelievably strong, even by epoxy standards. -Scott Article: 325963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:17:07 -0800 Message-ID: References: N Cook wrote: > I can never find a translation file for converting commonly used terms for > technical tools and equipment etc in the UK for the equivalent term used in > the USA , > or vice versa, often involves trade names. Suggest you hang out in sci.electronics.repair for awhile. A fair number of posters there come from the UK and every once in awhile you will encounter a purely british term used in a context that makes divining its USA equivalent fairly easy. -Scott Article: 325964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" Subject: Variocoupler Message-ID: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:22:28 GMT Could someone tell me what a Variocoupler is? http://cgi.ebay.com/1920-s-Variocoupler_W0QQitemZ6578464133QQcategoryZ932QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 325965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Variocoupler Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:01:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> looks to me like its basically a transformer where you can move the inner core a bit to make adjustments... just a guess... randy "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Could someone tell me what a Variocoupler is? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1920-s-Variocoupler_W0QQitemZ6578464133QQcategoryZ932QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 325966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Variocoupler Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:09:01 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Could someone tell me what a Variocoupler is? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1920-s-Variocoupler_W0QQitemZ6578464133QQcategoryZ932QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > This little beauty allows you to change the amount of coupling in an antenna (or other) circuit within a TRF radio or crystal set. This is done to allow for the best impedance match between the antenna and the input of the next circuit, or, alternatively, as a gain setting device for a stage. Article: 325967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Variocoupler Message-ID: <5SYdf.1987$ZA3.402684@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:33:53 GMT "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dl9kqb$sdp$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message > news:8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > Could someone tell me what a Variocoupler is? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1920-s-Variocoupler_W0QQitemZ6578464133QQcategoryZ932QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > This little beauty allows you to change the amount of coupling in an antenna > (or other) circuit within a TRF radio or crystal set. This is done to allow > for the best impedance match between the antenna and the input of the next > circuit, or, alternatively, as a gain setting device for a stage. A very GOOD little beast if it works right I'd gather : ) Article: 325968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11ng00oo4sd0ec3@corp.supernews.com> <1131952932.305462.259900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT Remagnitizing Phono Magneto Message-ID: <2Q_df.1988$ZA3.403193@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:48:14 GMT Why don't you pose that question to someone like the people at Great Plains Audio who remagnitize AlNiCo magnets for many of the James B. Lansing associated products, or the Lansing Heritage boards at www.audioheritage.org where you can also link to GP? "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:GM2dnfdPCbNx6eXeRVn-oA@comcast.com... > > Better to wrap about 10-20 turns of house wire around one LEG > > and flash that on a car battery [flash = 1-2 seconds contact]. > > Question... Shouldn't you remove the magnet from the coil before > disconnecting the latter from the battery? The collapsing field would > partially demagnetize the magnet. > > From adouglasatgis.net Thu Nov 17 00:31:16 EST 2005 Article: 325969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:34:50 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <936-437825B9-144@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-102.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325969 Hi, >Copper sulfate is available in most hardware stores. It is used to kill >roots in your sewer system. There are probably other compounds used to >destroy roots so ask for Roto Rooter Root Destroyer and check the >ingredient. Should say 99% copper sulfate. I think it's used to treat swimming-pool water too. II used to buy it at the drug store when I was a kid (it grows lovely blue crystals, and "copper-plates" iron nails dipped in it). You only need a tiny amount for your purpose. Alan Article: 325970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:39:57 -0700 Message-ID: <25938-437893AD-246@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1131973429.733933.201880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> this thread makes me wonder. when does a 'well hidden repair' become a 'forgery'? It reminds me of repairing speaker cones . There are 75 ways :-) Article: 325971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Rick Dasher Subject: Tube shield plating for Philco 38-3 Message-ID: <4n5hn1lc94or49nj81uer73rjs9ghf6ar0@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:54:44 -0500 I am restoring a Philco 38-3 and the tube shields have the remains of a silver colored plating. I would like to replate them but with the correct plating. What kind of plating is this (nickel, chrome...)? Rick Dasher Zenith G500 TO Zenith 11S474 Philco 38-3 Philco 41-280 RCA 111K Article: 325972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Northe Osbrink Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <2fa1a$437353c0$4232bd4c$14908@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <9K1ef.1348$s14.245@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:06:45 GMT Bill, >>> >> New HB regen shortwave receiver in the works here. > > I had been working on a picture 'blog' for this project and have now > posted it at http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/AcornSet/acorn.html > -Bill I can't remember any of the details, but the first first receiver that I built to receive FM broadcasts (probably before 1960)was a 955 in a superregenerative circuit. I also used it to receive aircraft and 2-meter amateurs. On strong stations it worked great, on weaker signals it was pretty squirrelly. I think the 955s and 958s were something like 5 for a dollar at one of the surplus stores. Northe N6KO Article: 325973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Positive ground auto radios Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:36:29 -0800 Message-ID: <4378aef7$0$75846$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> I don't think there is any advantage or disadvantage one way or another. Besides collecting old radios, I also have a modest collection of MG's and Austin-Healeys (pos ground). Positive ground is just a 'standard', much like driving on the left side of the road. Gotta love the Brits! ;-) Converting a positive ground car to negative ground is usually easy. Re-polarizing the generator, and swapping the leads on the gas gauge, and you're done. Steve wagil wrote in message news:1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Does anyone have any coments/thoughts/opinions about why some auto > makers had a positive ground electrical system and what the merits of a > pos ground system. Also--how this affected their auto radios. It > seems as tho the radio wouldn't care which was ground, but maybe > someone has some insight about this? > > Thanks for your help and comments > > Wayne > Article: 325974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Allan" References: <1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Positive ground auto radios Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:49:07 -0500 I believe it was used as an attempt to reduce corrosion but was found to be ineffective. By this time, most other auto manufacturers were using negative ground. Allan "wagil" wrote in message news:1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Does anyone have any coments/thoughts/opinions about why some auto > makers had a positive ground electrical system and what the merits of a > pos ground system. Also--how this affected their auto radios. It > seems as tho the radio wouldn't care which was ground, but maybe > someone has some insight about this? > > Thanks for your help and comments > > Wayne > Article: 325975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: OT Remagnitizing Phono Magneto Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:54:24 -0500 Message-ID: <11nhcpr7m7e0ve2@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ng00oo4sd0ec3@corp.supernews.com> <1131952932.305462.259900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> nesesu wrote: > Better to wrap about 10-20 turns of house wire around one LEG and flash > that on a car battery [flash = 1-2 seconds contact]. Much as one had to > flash the field on an automotive generator in the 'old' days. > > Also, the output should be about 90V @ 20Hz. > > That did it! I wrapped 16 turns around all the magnets everything was still all assembled. After flashing a few times (and cutting off the melted together coil) I have 90-100 volts AC. Thanks! John H. Article: 325976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Positive ground auto radios Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:59:31 -0800 Message-ID: <25567-4378B463-632@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <4378aef7$0$75846$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Wayne, Dunno about the "why" of positive ground other than it seemed to be purely convention at one time. But you're right - an auto radio with a tube rectifier is insensitive to polarity. It'll even run on AC, albeit with a rather squirrly 'beat' between the line freq. and the vibrator. A synchronous rectifier (second set of points in the vibrator) *is* polarity sensitive. To change polarity, you just have to reverse the two HV secondary leads (the ones that would ordinarily go to the rectifier plates). Bill(oc) Article: 325977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Northe Osbrink Subject: Re: Variocoupler References: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:10:59 GMT Brenda Ann, Brenda Ann wrote: > "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message > news:8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > >>Could someone tell me what a Variocoupler is? > > This little beauty allows you to change the amount of coupling in an antenna > (or other) circuit within a TRF radio or crystal set. This is done to allow > for the best impedance match between the antenna and the input of the next > circuit, or, alternatively, as a gain setting device for a stage. > A variocoupler can also be used to provide continuously-variable coupling between the tuning coil and tickler in a regenerative circuit. If you connect the two coils in series, with the rotating coil connected in reverse, you wind up with a _variometer_, which results in an RF coil with continuously-variable inductance. Northe, N6KO Article: 325978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1131875639.986956.108830@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Heathkit Power Supply Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:44:16 GMT Well....I'm impressed! PP "retroteckh" wrote in message news:1131875639.986956.108830@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > http://retrotech.ca//HeathkitPowSup.shtm/HeathKitpowSup.htm > Article: 325979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Drake TR-4 Restoration question. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:06:18 GMT Gents, I have acquired a Drake TR4 with power supply that track accurately on 80, 40, 20, 15 meters. The dial on the three 10 meter bands indicates about 30khz higher than actual. I have tried to adjust the touchy L2 accurately, looked at T1 for problems and swapped V1 tube. There are no cracked ferrite cores. Other hams on the air have told me this is typical of this TR-4 gear on 10 meters. Is there a component or gimmick that would bring the 10m tracking back on? Does having the 6JB8 PAs screen and plate B+ disconnected affect the 10m band in this way (I would think not)? What am I overlooking? Thanks, Paul. Article: 325980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck" References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> <1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: <2x3ef.27108$6e1.2033@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:09:18 GMT You are an idiot. PLONK!! "SueB" wrote in message news:1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > WTF is this doing in alt.fashion? > > Sue > > "Clinton lied, but no one died." > Article: 325981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Drake TR-4 Restoration question. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:41:58 GMT "Paul P" wrote in message news:eu3ef.54844$qk4.41195@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Gents, > > I have acquired a Drake TR4 with power supply that track accurately on 80, > 40, 20, 15 meters. The dial on the three 10 meter bands indicates about > 30khz higher than actual. I have tried to adjust the touchy L2 accurately, > looked at T1 for problems and swapped V1 tube. There are no cracked ferrite > cores. Other hams on the air have told me this is typical of this TR-4 gear > on 10 meters. > > Is there a component or gimmick that would bring the 10m tracking back on? > Does having the 6JB8 PAs screen and plate B+ disconnected affect the 10m > band in this way (I would think not)? > > What am I overlooking? > > Thanks, > Paul. Paul, While I'm not an amateur, I've heard many opinions and such about various pieces of Drake equipment, this way and that. My summary of all these opinions is that it tends to be pretty good but has a couple series or features that you should wonder about. Of course, that would be generic I suppose, but I do remember that even with highly stable gear in his base unit (he ran a Yaesu in his car), my uncle always used a good frequency counter nearby. I do not recall the make of his base unit, but I do recall it was a round dial in a square window and light blue. Why you have an anomaly like that at a higher frequency in your bandspread is nothing I'd know unless you have multiple bands like a comm receiver, which I might doubt but then you can analyze the section for that IF independently maybe. If you have a vernier dial and/or continuous tuning and all else is OK, you could always suspect it was not marked well on the dial vs. actual tuning. That brings back the counter scheme again, yes I know. Good luck although it may end up being something to adapt in the end, which in your case may not be a bad thing at all with your requirements (much more critical than an AA-5). (If this is someone elses I guess you can disavow all knowledge and it will self-destruct)...; ) Article: 325982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Albert Aerts" Subject: Website Update Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:08:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4378d27c$0$10961$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> The "Aerts Family" homepage, featuring amateur radio, antique radios, antique cameras, Scotland, food, has been updated. Several links were added to the Antique Radio pages. www.aerts.nu Enjoy the browsing ! Article: 325983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131990111.429071.189280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Positive ground auto radios Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:16:54 GMT While it's true that most tube type radios will operate with either polarity, that may not be true of these radios today. If you replace the vibrator, the new ones are solid state and will not work if the polarity is reversed. Kids, keep this in mind if you try this at home. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "nesesu" wrote in message news:1131990111.429071.189280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Wayne, we went into that in automotive class in High school back in > about 1958-9 and it was supposed that it would provide a better spark. > However, the winding 'sense' of the spark coil would provide the same > effect, especially since the spark is an oscillitory wave anyway. > > As mentioned by other posters, on a set with rectifier tube no > difference. On a set with synchronous vibrator you must reverse the > secondary connection to the vibrator. On many 'after market' radios of > the period, the vibrator and socket were arranged so that the vibrator > could be pulled and rotated 180 degrees and plugged back in to reverse > the polarity and a + or - appeared in a hole in the case next to a > label saying "Ground Polarity". > > We used to get lots of synchronous sets in the radio-TV shop with > reverse polarity damage. People [or garages] would do reverse jumps, > install the battery backwards, swap the radio from a Pos ground car to > neg ground and so on. > > Neil S. > Article: 325984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Delco DS-501 problem Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:42:37 GMT If any of you have ever messed with car radios, you'll know that Delco radios used a DS-501 power transistor for nearly every radio, from the first hybrids right on up into the 1970's. These germanium transistor didn't fail often, which i probably why replacements are scarce today. In fact the books I have show replacements as either an SK-3012 or a GE-4. ECG doesn't have a cross-reference. These things can be expensive, if you can find them at all. So -- right now I have a Corvette radio with no sound, and what appears to be a DS-501 that's bad. Now -- I happen to have a cigar box full of new power transistors that are that distinctive size and shape of the DS-501. However I can't seem to determine what they are to see if they cross-reference. Some of them are gold colored and have "108 6507" on them, others are silver and say "466 108 6621", and still others are gold and say "049 6222." Can anyone identify these transistors and tell me if they would make a compatible substitute for a DS-501? Of course if they can't be identified, I may try and stick one in just to see what happens . .. . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 325985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem Message-ID: <525ef.2004$ZA3.407900@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:52:49 GMT Gary, you are a service person. Delco/Delphi will send you info a lot easier than it was when I needed books on the AM stereo equipped 2000 series models I have...? Go through the parts site at GM or ask a dealer for leads...worth a shot though maybe you did that already? "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:xU4ef.1669$c27.375@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > If any of you have ever messed with car radios, you'll know that Delco > radios used a DS-501 power transistor for nearly every radio, from the first > hybrids right on up into the 1970's. These germanium transistor didn't fail > often, which i probably why replacements are scarce today. In fact the > books I have show replacements as either an SK-3012 or a GE-4. ECG doesn't > have a cross-reference. These things can be expensive, if you can find them > at all. > > So -- right now I have a Corvette radio with no sound, and what appears to > be a DS-501 that's bad. Now -- I happen to have a cigar box full of new > power transistors that are that distinctive size and shape of the DS-501. > However I can't seem to determine what they are to see if they > cross-reference. Some of them are gold colored and have "108 6507" on them, > others are silver and say "466 108 6621", and still others are gold and say > "049 6222." Can anyone identify these transistors and tell me if they would > make a compatible substitute for a DS-501? > > Of course if they can't be identified, I may try and stick one in just to > see what happens . .. . > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 325986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:58:38 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Variocoupler References: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Northe Osbrink wrote: > A variocoupler can also be used to provide continuously-variable > coupling between the tuning coil and tickler in a regenerative circuit. > If you connect the two coils in series, with the rotating coil connected > in reverse, you wind up with a _variometer_, which results in an RF coil > with continuously-variable inductance. > > Northe, > N6KO > Thank you! I've never recognized the difference. -Bill Article: 325987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Kalamazoo Meet - Finds and Comments From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <5j5ef.536533$x96.245618@attbi_s72> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:10:57 GMT In article , larry@lfowkesx.com says... > > >there seemed to be good turnout. > >Larry Fowkes > > Wife was very happy with me as I didn't buy any radios.... She did!.. but only a couple of small ones... me it was a nice large bag of tubes >from several of the guys there selling tubes... and a few other interesting parts.... lots of fun yakking with the other collectors at the meet. And yes I talked a buddy who was with us into the 12 tuber Zenith shutter dial... he saved me from having to buy it! John k9uwa Article: 325989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Drake TR-4 Restoration question. References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:42:02 GMT Paul P wrote: > I have acquired a Drake TR4 with power supply that track accurately on 80, > 40, 20, 15 meters. The dial on the three 10 meter bands indicates about > 30khz higher than actual. I have tried to adjust the touchy L2 accurately, > looked at T1 for problems and swapped V1 tube. There are no cracked ferrite > cores. Other hams on the air have told me this is typical of this TR-4 gear > on 10 meters. If you haven't done so already, get the manual and the schematic >from the Boat Anchors Manual Archive. ftp://bama.sbc.edu/downloads/drake/tr4/ The manual is in DejaVu format. The Theory of Operation is on page 25 of the manual. (Page 27 of the DejaVu file.) And the Alignment Instructions are on page 34 of the manual. (Page 36 of the DejaVu file.) The schematic is horrid to have to try and figure out on your own without the Theory of Operation, and trying to follow what is going on under the chassis is equally awful. This is NOT to say that the radio is a bad design, it's just that this is a problem common to most "high end" designs from that time period. The 80 and 20 meter bands directly convert to the 9 MHz IF. * 40 meters pre converts to 16 MHz then to 9 MHz, and the 15 and 10 meter bands pre convert to 37 MHz and then to 9 MHz. You need to sit down and draw yourself a "road map" that shows what local oscillator crystal, and which common mixers are used on each band before you attempt to align the radio. For example, the 9 MHz IF and demodulator section has to be correctly aligned before attempting to align anything else. * Note: Back in the beginnings of SSB on the amateur bands, 9 MHz was picked as the "half way" point for an IF to either mix up from 80 meters or down from 20 meters to a common crystal filter. This is why the convention of LSB on 80 meters and USB on 20 meters. Jeff wa6fwi -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <2fa1a$437353c0$4232bd4c$14908@COQUI.NET> <9K1ef.1348$s14.245@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: <9M5ef.2006$ZA3.408449@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:41:57 GMT Less and less, which means mostly that $$$ is going into the bills and I now have a pretty nice living room to walk through and the two console Truetone TVs are going in maybe tomorrow with little detriment to space now. This was EXACTLY why I got all that stuff in the first place, and exactly what I planned to do with it has been done. Now I get to finish tackling the home projects. Article: 325991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4378E900.3A6F7855@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem References: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:47:52 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > If any of you have ever messed with car radios, you'll know that Delco > radios used a DS-501 power transistor for nearly every radio, from the first > hybrids right on up into the 1970's. These germanium transistor didn't fail > often, which i probably why replacements are scarce today. In fact the > books I have show replacements as either an SK-3012 or a GE-4. ECG doesn't > have a cross-reference. These things can be expensive, if you can find them > at all. > > So -- right now I have a Corvette radio with no sound, and what appears to > be a DS-501 that's bad. Now -- I happen to have a cigar box full of new > power transistors that are that distinctive size and shape of the DS-501. > However I can't seem to determine what they are to see if they > cross-reference. Some of them are gold colored and have "108 6507" on them, > others are silver and say "466 108 6621", and still others are gold and say > "049 6222." Can anyone identify these transistors and tell me if they would > make a compatible substitute for a DS-501? > > Of course if they can't be identified, I may try and stick one in just to > see what happens . .. . > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com Industry Number : DS501 NTE Device Number: NTE105 T-PNP, GERMANIUM AUDIO PO,TO-36 I think that I still have a couple new ECG-105 transistors. The transistors numbers you listed sound like old Burroughs part numbers >from some of their early '70s mini computers. BTW, the JEDEC number for the DS501 was 2N441 -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 325992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4378EA02.8FD225E6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem References: <525ef.2004$ZA3.407900@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:52:10 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > Gary, you are a service person. Delco/Delphi will send you info a lot easier > than it was when I needed books on the AM stereo equipped 2000 series models > I have...? Go through the parts site at GM or ask a dealer for leads...worth > a shot though maybe you did that already? No, they won't. The part has been obsolete for almost 30 year, and Delco is useless when it comes to supplying information on parts that old. The only way you would get it was if you could find one of the engineers from the old Kokomo, Indiana plant. I used to see them every year at the Dayton hamfest, but the last time I was there was 1987. I used to attend the annual Delco Electronics service school back in the 70s, as well. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 325993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: white@ssnow.com Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: <71nhn1ps6uc0upqvcgjp3sacnpkchn4p3q@4ax.com> References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> <1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:59:44 -0700 On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:08:43 -0500, "Sox_in_2006" wrote: >Clinton lied, no one died? Tell that to the families of the people from the >Aspirin factory that he wagged the dog and bombed to get out of his felony. I'm sure their just as sad as families of the Marines who died in the 1983 Lebanon bombing. You know, the ones that Reagan sent in as peace keepers. The ones who were guarded by sentries armed with pistols but no rifels. As soon as it got embarrassing after the news of the bombing he pulled out the US forces. That would be the same Reagan whose administration gave the world Iran Contra, that would be selling arms to Iran so they could supplement the Contras lagging profits from drug dealing. Since the US could no longer legally fund the Contras ( Congress forbid any funding with the Borland Amendment) the administration found a way to do it, granted they were committing a felony,but hey whose counting. After all it was Reagan and he had such a nice smile. Politicians are all fucking whores with no honor. ALL OF THEM!! The only two I have liked in the last 60 years are Bush senior and Jimmy Carter..Go Figure. Article: 325994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <525ef.2004$ZA3.407900@monger.newsread.com> <4378EA02.8FD225E6@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem Message-ID: <6o6ef.2012$ZA3.408937@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:24:34 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4378EA02.8FD225E6@earthlink.net... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > > Gary, you are a service person. Delco/Delphi will send you info a lot easier > > than it was when I needed books on the AM stereo equipped 2000 series models > > I have...? Go through the parts site at GM or ask a dealer for leads...worth > > a shot though maybe you did that already? > > > No, they won't. The part has been obsolete for almost 30 year, and > Delco is useless when it comes to supplying information on parts that > old. The only way you would get it was if you could find one of the > engineers from the old Kokomo, Indiana plant. I used to see them every > year at the Dayton hamfest, but the last time I was there was 1987. I > used to attend the annual Delco Electronics service school back in the > 70s, as well. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Thank you, I stand happily informed. Article: 325995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Drake TR-4 Restoration question. Date: 14 Nov 2005 20:27:06 GMT Message-ID: References: Jeffrey D Angus (jangus@socal.rr.com) writes: > The 80 and 20 meter bands directly convert to the 9 MHz IF. * > 40 meters pre converts to 16 MHz then to 9 MHz, and the 15 > and 10 meter bands pre convert to 37 MHz and then to 9 MHz. > I couldn't remember what sort of conversion scheme it used. Given that the problem is only on 10meters, but not specific to one of the 10meter segments, it would likely be something common to the crystal oscillator that comes into play only on the 10MHz band. Like some capacitor that gets switched in, or the coil that I assume will be found in the plate of the oscillator. Of course, it might be some loading after the oscillator that only affects the 10meter band. If it was only one band that was off, the most obvious thing would be that the crystal is no longer on the frequency that it should be. But since it involves three different crystals, it seems unlikely all are off, which then points to something common to all three segments. Michael Article: 325996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:27:42 GMT I will laugh in unison if Jeff brings up how I used to send my actual email address, but the spammers didn't care either ;-) "philo" wrote in message news:avmdnUn8gsHUduXenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@athenet.net... > > > > > I thought the same thing but as you say, > > I was waiting for a more expert opinion before embarking on that project > > although I didn't know those two valves were similar > > I emailed photos to you, if your email address is right > > > > > > my posted email is a spam trap. > i got way too much spam when i used my actual email > > my actual email is philo_565 (dot) yahoo (dot) com > > Article: 325997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Positive ground auto radios Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> i believe the idea was to reduce the cathodic effect and reduce corrosion. thats what ive been told anyway... randy "wagil" wrote in message news:1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Does anyone have any coments/thoughts/opinions about why some auto > makers had a positive ground electrical system and what the merits of a > pos ground system. Also--how this affected their auto radios. It > seems as tho the radio wouldn't care which was ground, but maybe > someone has some insight about this? > > Thanks for your help and comments > > Wayne > Article: 325998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: old, cold sloder joints Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:13:42 -0500 Message-ID: <11nhvgf5joi7f06@corp.supernews.com> References: <936-437825B9-144@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net> Alan Douglas wrote: > > > I think it's used to treat swimming-pool water too. Generally today these copper algaecides are now chelated though, not straight sulfate. John H. Article: 325999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: A Franken-radio on Craigslist References: <1131977596.538444.235740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:03:11 -0500 and uuuuuugly. Ken philo wrote: > AuroraOldRadios wrote: > >>Looks like a 1950s tube hifi grafted into a 1920s hi-boy. >>http://denver.craigslist.org/clt/110846188.html >> > > scary allright!@ Article: 326000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith 8-S-463 Dial Cord ??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131800796.742198.20070@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:19:35 GMT In article <1131800796.742198.20070@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > >Hey John, > >What about that material that Allen Jesperson sells? It's square belt >material he sells by the foot. I bought a stump load at the big ARCI >radio fest a few months ago. Want to re belt my 9S262 and maybe a few >other Zeniths (one's an 8S like in this artical). Will that material >die in a few months, or is it the cloth stuff you're talking about? > >GB That stuff is OK... but as Mark said.. it wants to crawl off the pulleys more so than the round stock does ... when you do the belt to the motor on your 9s262 .. be sure to leave it looser than the dial one... in this case you want that motor to spin up quickly even if it slips a little as it gets wound up is fine... tighter than that and its too much load on the motor to pull the gear train and dial up from zero speed.. John Article: 326001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: A Franken-radio on Craigslist Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:46:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131977596.538444.235740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I showed my wife that pic. She told me that if I ever did something like that she wanted a divorce and she was suing for custody of all my radios. Ben "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1131977596.538444.235740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Looks like a 1950s tube hifi grafted into a 1920s hi-boy. > http://denver.craigslist.org/clt/110846188.html > Article: 326002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:47:40 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: A Franken-radio on Craigslist References: <1131977596.538444.235740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Benjamaniac wrote: > I showed my wife that pic. She told me that if I ever did something > like that she wanted a divorce and she was suing for custody of all my > radios. > Ben Good woman! -Bill > Article: 326003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131977596.538444.235740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Franken-radio on Craigslist Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:10:18 GMT Does it make chocolatey milk? "Bill" wrote in message news:c0f29$4379140d$4232bdbd$16969@COQUI.NET... > Benjamaniac wrote: > > > I showed my wife that pic. She told me that if I ever did something > > like that she wanted a divorce and she was suing for custody of all my > > radios. > > Ben > > Good woman! > > -Bill > > > Article: 326004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <4378E900.3A6F7855@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:41:19 GMT Although I appreciate all the replies, it seems everyone has it backwards. I know what a DS-501 is, what I don't know is what those other types are and if they would make a suitable replacement. I don't like the idea of putting in used transistors, especially germanium, but at this point that may be the case. I get umpteen Delco radios for conversion and the old DS-501's get tossed. I think I got another one today; I'll have to pull it and try it in this set. However I'd still like to know if my cigar box full of new 108's will work. BTW, there is a 108 that will substitute for some silicon type, but I don't believe this is correct. The similar types with the 049 number shows the replacement being a zener diode! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4378E900.3A6F7855@earthlink.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> >> If any of you have ever messed with car radios, you'll know that Delco >> radios used a DS-501 power transistor for nearly every radio, from the >> first >> hybrids right on up into the 1970's. These germanium transistor didn't >> fail >> often, which i probably why replacements are scarce today. In fact the >> books I have show replacements as either an SK-3012 or a GE-4. ECG >> doesn't >> have a cross-reference. These things can be expensive, if you can find >> them >> at all. >> >> So -- right now I have a Corvette radio with no sound, and what appears >> to >> be a DS-501 that's bad. Now -- I happen to have a cigar box full of new >> power transistors that are that distinctive size and shape of the DS-501. >> However I can't seem to determine what they are to see if they >> cross-reference. Some of them are gold colored and have "108 6507" on >> them, >> others are silver and say "466 108 6621", and still others are gold and >> say >> "049 6222." Can anyone identify these transistors and tell me if they >> would >> make a compatible substitute for a DS-501? >> >> Of course if they can't be identified, I may try and stick one in just to >> see what happens . .. . >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Industry Number : DS501 > NTE Device Number: NTE105 > T-PNP, GERMANIUM AUDIO PO,TO-36 > > I think that I still have a couple new ECG-105 transistors. > > > The transistors numbers you listed sound like old Burroughs part numbers > from some of their early '70s mini computers. > > BTW, the JEDEC number for the DS501 was 2N441 > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 326005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <7n0df.15196$q%.10041@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> In Jim Mueller writes: >On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:44:51 +0000, Henry Kolesnik wrote: >> I never heard of the transmitter scam before and I would think that people >> would have wanted to hear their favorite 2 or 3 stations. I wonder how they >> did the scam? >How could they have 2 or 3 favorite stations if they didn't have a radio? Heard them at a neighbor's house? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1131941022.205288.258450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Touch Based Antenna Message-ID: <_jaef.1015$Xd6.769@fed1read06> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:53:39 -0500 Check the antenna coupling winding (primary) for continuity. Open windings is a common problem in some Philcos. Pete "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1131941022.205288.258450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > This is an odd problem yet I'm sure it's easy to resolve. This occurs > on two different sets that I have, both Philco's, one tombstone, one > cathedral. In each reception is poor. Connecting a wire or touching > antenna terminals improves reception slightly, however a touch of the > wire leading to an RF tube plate cap brings the sets to strong > reception. I'm guessing a poor connection to the antenna input, but > could this be something else like the tube itself going south? > Article: 326007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Drake TR-4 Restoration question. From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:08:47 -0500 "Paul P" wrote in news:eu3ef.54844$qk4.41195@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > 30khz higher than actual Follow along with the Schematic on: ftp://bama.sbc.edu/downloads/drake/tr4/sch.gif The frequency of old VFO ham rigs, including the TR4 is a resultant between a fixed frequency range VFO (to keep the dial calibrations the same for all the bands, unlike old radios whos calibrations get very narrow as frequency band increases) + or - the "Band Oscillator", a fixed crystal oscillator whos crystal sets the starting frequency of each band. These two oscillators are fed to a mixer tube whos resultant frequency is the receiver/transmitter IF frequency away from the desired air frequency. In the case of the TR4, the IF is 9 Mhz, the frequency of the most important part of this great old transceiver, the really sharp SSB filter. Q1, a permiability-tuned Hartley, always tunes over the same range, no matter what the band. If it were off frequency, all the bands would be off frequency by the exact same amount because its range doesn't change from band to band. Your problem is one band off freq. The only shift that could go that far is if the Xtal oscillator for that band were off frequency. Look in the upper left corner of the schematic at V1A, the triode of a 6EA8 used as the crystal oscillator. The bandswitch is shown in the 80/75M position. No crystal is attached or needed as the Q1 oscillator ONLY is used to create the 75/80 meter local oscillator frequency. The mixer simply acts as an amp. To get 40 meters, the 21.5 Mhz xtal is oscillating. 20 meters uses the 35.5 Mhz xtal. 15 the 42.5 Mhz and the two 10 meter bands uses the two 43 Mhz xtals....your problem. Are BOTH 10 meter bands off 30 Khz or just one of them?? Hard to believe both xtals are off by the same amount. These cheap little crystals DO have trimmers to sort of align the bands so the calibrations of the dial are reasonable and within range of the front panel adjuster. L2 should move both 10 meter band segments by about the same amount and may be what you need to adjust. It looks like L2 adjusts the xtal freq for both 10M xtals plus the 15M xtal. You may be able to adjust the highest 10M segment with L2 then bend L3 to adjust the lower 10M segment then bend L4 to adjust the 15M band....in this sequence. These coils make up for the cheap parts and crappy tube capacitance differences. I had a TR-4C and TR-4CW models over the years. It's nice to have 300 watts (new sweep tubes QUICKLY tuned before the plates melt) without a linear. I kept the L4B proper 3-500Z linear amp long after I'd sold the transceivers. I dumped the cheap L4B voltage doubler power supply that was its weak point and built a proper full-wave HVPS with 100% duty cycle power supply I could use on RTTY at the legal limit. The cheap sheet metal 3- 500Zs were replaced with the fantastic Amperex 3-500ZG tubes with graphite plates you couldn't melt on RTTY keydown for hours. Ah, the soft glow of a fully-loaded kilowatt of graphite plates sending RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYR. They glowed a nice cherry red. I never ran the TR4C on data modes. Sweep tubes don't like keydown over 3 seconds...(c; But this is one sweet SSB radio when you get to know its quirks and shortcomings. I ran it mobile for years, too, with Drake's own 12V PS into my homebrew Texas bugcatchers. Lots of contacts all over the place mobile on the TR-4C. Thanks for the memories. Hope this helps find your problem. If L-2 won't bring it in, it needs new 43 Mhz crystals. -- Larry Article: 326008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:15:03 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: schematics needed References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: <40422$4379369b$4232bdbd$31702@COQUI.NET> philo wrote: > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > >>I will laugh in unison if Jeff brings up how I used to send my actual email >>address, but the spammers didn't care either ;-) >> > > > > > when i first started posting on usenet > i just used my real address for years... > then one day i was hit by 50 spammers... > and it soon increased to 200 a day. Nowadays if you respond to posts from Dinius you're more likely to create fanatical and threatening phone calls to your wife/girlfriend/job/church. He gives spammers a good name. In spite of all the problems he has caused - some people tend to still treat him like "just another poster" trying to be nice. Arrest Warrant is outstanding in the State of Florida for one. You're new here, philo. Don't interact with this guy. We're trying to ignore him but there's a newcomer-a-minute that keeps him going. He's a network news event waiting to happen. -Bill Article: 326009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wurlitzer Orbit III - Out Of Tune...Help! From: Larry References: <1132004173.026515.303980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:15:07 -0500 jonathandowns@gmail.com wrote in news:1132004173.026515.303980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > my wurlitzer orbit III is out of tune. it went a few months without > being played, and now the entire thing is flat. is there some way to > tune it? perhaps a global tuning pot somethere or something (because > the entire thing went flat...it's in tune with itself, but it's nearly > a half step out). > > thanks! > > Is it the synthesizer keyboard on top or the lower manuals? The upper synthesizer is a totally separate unit, generator and all. Take off the top and release the catches and the Orbit III swings up for service. You'll find an oscillator adjustment in it...left side I think, but it's been years. I remember when they were new. Smartassed technicians always set them up with that silly VFO turned wide as it would go. Anyone coming into the store that touched an Orbit key got a loud sound that sounded like a siren going off....great fun in a busy mall...(c; I'll try to find the manual in my files if your lost.... -- Larry Article: 326010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <437157b7$0$63054$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> <4377db3e$0$18855$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <_xSdf.243$vq1.43@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:27:28 -0000 Message-ID: <43793998$0$82648$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "jim menning" wrote in message news:_xSdf.243$vq1.43@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Martin Crossley" wrote in message > news:4377db3e$0$18855$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... >> >> "Steven Swift" wrote in message >> news:dl3dup$gq9$1@eskinews.eskimo.com... >>> "Martin Crossley" writes: >>>>>Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. >>> >>>>Negatory, good buddy. By and large, transformer operated color chasses >>>>were isolated from the AC line. >>>> In fact the 'hot chassis' practice was abandoned long >>>>before the advent of color TV sets. >>> >>> >> >> Oh no I didn't! >> > > Martin --- I think the confusion comes form your earlier post not > correctly attributing prior quotes to the proper person. The post of > Bill's that you replied to shows no tick marks or other signals > differentiating Bill's words from your own words. > > jim menning > Jim, Looking back through the thread, you're absolutely right. I wonder why my newsreader messed that up. I'll see what happens with this one. Cheers, Martin. Article: 326011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:41:08 GMT My ray of hope was having to change to an ISP that actually had a clue. From 3800 to 8 filtered unwanted messages or viruses in one month. Right now the big deal seems to be the floods of 'info@" followed by random letters and an ASCII string as a subject. Our ISP head has been building business systems since before the 25MHz 8088s were on the market. "philo" wrote in message news:wu-dneAVe4slr-TeRVn-hA@athenet.net... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > I will laugh in unison if Jeff brings up how I used to send my actual email > > address, but the spammers didn't care either ;-) > > > > > > when i first started posting on usenet > i just used my real address for years... > then one day i was hit by 50 spammers... > and it soon increased to 200 a day. > > i started using the privacy.net address > and i had to get mail washer for my windows machines. > > it took 2 - 3 weeks > but finally the spam started dropping off. > but it was months before it got down to a minimal > 5 or 6 a day Article: 326012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> <40422$4379369b$4232bdbd$31702@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: <2cbef.2028$ZA3.414777@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:53:02 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:40422$4379369b$4232bdbd$31702@COQUI.NET... > philo wrote: > > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > >>I will laugh in unison if Jeff brings up how I used to send my actual email > >>address, but the spammers didn't care either ;-) > >> > > > > > > > > > > when i first started posting on usenet > > i just used my real address for years... > > then one day i was hit by 50 spammers... > > and it soon increased to 200 a day. > > Nowadays if you respond to posts from Dinius you're more likely to > create fanatical and threatening phone calls to your > wife/girlfriend/job/church. He gives spammers a good name. I'm not hearing anything about it and Michael actually responds to me. Why are you so hellbent on this fantasy of yours, Bill Meacham? If I have a warrant, why haven't the locals come to arrest me? I bothered to query their sherriff's department some time ago. They sounded puzzled if not confused. When did any drug usage or such cease being a mental health issue? Why do you feel superior? You're just sucking on shoe leather. Your shirt is all wet too. You're not worth plonking and you haven't advanced anything trying. You are a great restorer and designer of radios, a poor despot. You are wasting our time with a broken record about a wolf. I think freedom is must more stable than jail, I try to limit that to every fifteen years or more between. I laugh some more. Article: 326013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <_xSdf.243$vq1.43@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <20694-437815EC-366@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:51:12 -0000 Message-ID: <43793f13$0$82631$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:20694-437815EC-366@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net... > P.S. > ARRGh. Aha (thumps forehead). British household AC is 230V is > it not? > That would explain transformerless TV sets being true "hot chassis". Yea > or nay? > oc > Bill, Interesting that when I tried replying to your post immediately before this, my newsreader wouldn't put in the attribution marks, but it will on this one. Yes indeed "hot chassis" as you say, or "live chassis" as we say. One for the British-American translation thread! Here, a "hot" chassis could mean either that it ran extremely warm, or was exceptionally sensitive... Actually, the 50s/ early 60s sets still had to cater for the few 200V dc supplies, as well as 200-250V ac, so they were often designed for 200V ac, with big tapped dropper resistors to cope with the higher supplies, giving an HT rail of about 200V and with the (half-wave, valve or selenium) rectifier shorted out for 200V dc operation. Typical power consumption 150-200W. Martin. Article: 326014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> <40422$4379369b$4232bdbd$31702@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:56:51 GMT "philo" wrote in message news:mv-dnZoLR6w3peTeRVn-uQ@athenet.net... > . > > > > Arrest Warrant is outstanding in the State of Florida for one. You're > > new here, philo. Don't interact with this guy. We're trying to ignore > > him but there's a newcomer-a-minute that keeps him going. > > > > He's a network news event waiting to happen. > > > > -Bill > > > thanks for the warning. > in that case... > maybe i should post my boss's phone number exray gets on the rag every 5 weeks and he's the only one beating a horse. Right now you should find a shovel, it's deep. He should feel lucky that his ISP seems as ignorant as he thinks mine is, as neither of us got anywhere doing that stunt. Article: 326015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:33:52 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: schematics needed References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> <40422$4379369b$4232bdbd$31702@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <4e875$43794913$4232bd9a$11355@COQUI.NET> philo wrote: > > > thanks for the warning. > in that case... > maybe i should post my boss's phone number Hehe, you don't need to do that. He claimed here once to have spoken to my wife "about me" not knowing that my wife doesn't speak English. He's probably already "speaking" to your boss. -ex Article: 326016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> <40422$4379369b$4232bdbd$31702@COQUI.NET> <4e875$43794913$4232bd9a$11355@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:55:40 GMT She didn't speak much, whomever she was, WHO'S boss anyway? Who the fuck is Philo and why do I know his "boss"? You can't even write for the tabloids they sell at Wal-Mart if you can't try an allegation to a fact. Quit drinking and go to sleep. "Bill" wrote in message news:4e875$43794913$4232bd9a$11355@COQUI.NET... > philo wrote: > > > > > > > thanks for the warning. > > in that case... > > maybe i should post my boss's phone number > > Hehe, you don't need to do that. He claimed here once to have spoken to > my wife "about me" not knowing that my wife doesn't speak English. He's > probably already "speaking" to your boss. > > -ex > > > Article: 326017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" Subject: RCA console listed "project radio"...looks nice... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:01:54 GMT and not Mark Oppats either http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-MODEL-6K3-CONSOLE-RADIO-PROJECT-PARTS-CIRCA-1940S_W0QQitemZ6578907022QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Free, while supplies last Article: 326018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: FA Nice RCA T10-1 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:12:10 GMT Nope, and the console I found starts at about 10 bucks too, and it still isn't yours "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:ToydnQVFuN1cwOTeRVn-uw@comcast.com... > not mine, but a great radio! You dont see restored ones much either. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-T-10-1-Tombstone-Radio_W0QQitemZ5829166418QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark > > > Article: 326019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Variocoupler Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:42:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:34:54 -0800, Phil Nelson wrote: >> you wind up with a _variometer_ > > The Radiola III has a variometer, or at least that's what one book calls it. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/RadiolaIII05.jpg > http://antiqueradio.org/art/RadiolaIII03.jpg > > It's a nice piece of workmanship! > > Phil Nelson It looks like it's used as the tuning control here. Both this one and the one on ebay are wound on cylindrical forms. I have also seen them wound on spherical forms. That would give tighter coupling between the coils but would be harder to make. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Tube shield plating for Philco 38-3 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:45:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4n5hn1lc94or49nj81uer73rjs9ghf6ar0@4ax.com> <1131990603.304243.146710@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:50:03 -0800, nesesu wrote: > Rick, tube shields on 'ordinary' radios were usually tin plated, or > more accurately made from tin plate sheet steel. Poshier sets such as > the Scott were Nickel or Chrome plate. > Not sure if the surface etching on an old shield can be polished out > well enough for replating to have that original 'look'. They were shiny > like a tin can, but not usually mirror shiny. Modern Zinc plate may > look as good and stand up better. Also a thin coat of clear finish > overall will help preserve the look IF the tube covered does not get > too hot in operation. Don't paint the part that makes the ground connection or you may have some weird problem you didn't have before. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:35:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:42:37 +0000, Gary Tayman wrote: > If any of you have ever messed with car radios, you'll know that Delco > radios used a DS-501 power transistor for nearly every radio, from the first > hybrids right on up into the 1970's. These germanium transistor didn't fail > often, which i probably why replacements are scarce today. In fact the > books I have show replacements as either an SK-3012 or a GE-4. ECG doesn't > have a cross-reference. These things can be expensive, if you can find them > at all. > > So -- right now I have a Corvette radio with no sound, and what appears to > be a DS-501 that's bad. Now -- I happen to have a cigar box full of new > power transistors that are that distinctive size and shape of the DS-501. > However I can't seem to determine what they are to see if they > cross-reference. Some of them are gold colored and have "108 6507" on them, > others are silver and say "466 108 6621", and still others are gold and say > "049 6222." Can anyone identify these transistors and tell me if they would > make a compatible substitute for a DS-501? > > Of course if they can't be identified, I may try and stick one in just to > see what happens . .. . Gary, Those sound like somebody's in-house part numbers. You may never find out what they "really" are. That doesn't mean you can't use them. The first thing to do is find out if they are NPN or PNP. Your multimeter can take care of that. Then you need to know if they are silicon or germanium. Your multimeter will tell you that, too. If you have an analog meter, measure the forward "resistance" of one of the junctions (B-E or B-C always use the same one for consistency although it probably won't matter) on power transistors that you know are germanium and silicon. Note what the "resistance" of each kind is. Then test your unknowns. It should be pretty obvious which they are. If you use a digital meter, use the diode test range. A germanium transistor will test around 0.2 to 0.3 V and a silicon one will be about 0.6 to 0.7 V. Knowing the gain would be nice but power transistors run at too high current to be accurately tested by small transistor testers or DMMs. What you may need to know now is how fast they are. Some car radios put the output transistor in a feedback circuit and use its slow response as they main frequency compensation. If you substitute a faster transistor, it may oscillate or be marginally stable. The output transistor in the radio in my '67 Valiant died and I had to try several old transistors to find one that would work right. In this radio the symptom of an inappropriate type was a brief oscillation when the set was turned on or off. Also, it is possible for some other part to be the cause of the failure. It was in my case. Many years before, one of the small audio transistors (an early plastic case silicon unit) became intermittant, a common problem for early plastic semiconductors. When it opened, it upset the bias on the output transistor and caused it to draw a lot of current (the emitter resistor got red hot!). Although it continued to work after the problem transistor was replaced, apparently it had been damaged and had developed high leakage. The feedback circuit adjusted the bias to correct for this and it worked but eventually it got bad enough that there was no more correction range and it stopped working. At this point Iceo was around 300 mA! So in your case, probably all you can do is determine if they are the right polarity and material and give them a try; and be sure something else didn't fry the original one. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:48:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> if you want my opinion, just say no. without getting into the miriad of reasons that immediately come to mind ill just list the big one. if you ship that to spain, it will very probably be damaged which is a shame if nothing else. randy "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I am Ebaying a Philco 70 and this guy asked if I can ship the radio to > Spain. What in the world should I tell him? > > Any idea what carriers would go there from the US, what's any good, and > how I would have to pack it to get it there? Sheesh. > > The funny thing is I was looking at radios on Ebay the other night and > I swear I saw one where the seller had posted the same question that > was asked by a buyer. Is someone in Spain buying a lot of radios, or > is this a scam? (Apologies if you are reading this from Spain and you > are just buying a helluva lot of radios!) > > Here's the auction: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6579071308&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:US:1 > > Tox > Article: 326023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:32:50 -0600 Message-ID: <11nj08g78043811@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I've always had good luck with international bidders. It can be mailed overseas via USPS Airmail or Surface Parcel Post, but I bet it would be at least $100 due to weight. Most international bidders will gladly pay it. The USPS international shipping calculator at http://www.usps.gov has everything you need and is dead accurate on price as long as you're accurate on weight and dimensions. It's pretty much up to you, but international bidders generally do bid more since most US Ebay sellers don't ship internationally and as long as you pack it right (double box, plenty of cushioning, remove speaker, remove tubes, remove chassis, etc.) it should survive the trip. Steve P. "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I am Ebaying a Philco 70 and this guy asked if I can ship the radio to > Spain. What in the world should I tell him? Article: 326024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: schematics needed References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: <5lfef.5516$Hs.4250@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:35:45 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > I will laugh in unison if Jeff brings up how I used to send my > actual email address, but the spammers didn't care either ;-) Steven Dinius <10kc@srvinet.com> That is just one of them. I'm sure he's got others. He changes them more often than Liberace changed outfits. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:43:52 GMT "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Here's the auction: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6579071308&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:US:1 > > Tox > Your description made me curious. What is the front panel made of? "This is a cast reproduction that looks pretty good." You mean it's not a wood reproduction? jim menning Article: 326026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1Nfef.538849$x96.52754@attbi_s72> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:05:33 GMT In article <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, cadyc@mchsi.com says... > > >I am Ebaying a Philco 70 and this guy asked if I can ship the radio to >Spain. What in the world should I tell him? >Here's the auction: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6579071308&sspagename=ADME :B:AAQ:US:1 > >Tox > click up www.usps.com ... click up calculate postage... pick spain... put in the weight of your box... now your going to be Air Parcel Post or Global express as there you have 108 inches of total box to play with ... where Slow Boat is only 79 inches and that radio in decent box will be bigger than that... looks like ballpark 130 bucks to me ..... not a big deal to fill out customs forms... and that guy in Spain.... I bet his bucks are bigger than the USA bidders bucks... I see nothing wrong with selling to most any foreign country... This is from Me.... who has writers cramps from filling out forms... ebay in the last 6 weeks... $15,000 ........... during that time we also paid $3000 + to the post office and UPS.... and Flea Bay got about 1K ... John k9uwa Article: 326027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <%mOdf.16683$Hj2.4595@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <2r6ef.2013$ZA3.409065@monger.newsread.com> <5lfef.5516$Hs.4250@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:11:09 GMT Four came with the account, Lycos and Yahoo. I've only used two of the ISP accounts and the former two since I've been here. Thanks for sorta noticing and you can go back to bed now. "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:5lfef.5516$Hs.4250@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > > I will laugh in unison if Jeff brings up how I used to send my > > actual email address, but the spammers didn't care either ;-) > > Steven Dinius <10kc@srvinet.com> > > That is just one of them. I'm sure he's got others. He changes > them more often than Liberace changed outfits. > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Heathkit IT-17 tester question Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:30:41 GMT I downloaded a users manual from BAMA. http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/heath/it17/ I use it all the time because I forget what the bold means. I believe the tester will indicate a short when that lever is moved even when the tube is good. You have to move each lever (that was set) to the opposite position, with the filament voltage on minimum, to test all elements for shorts. PP "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:tnjin1d5701gkj953u46uqucndsdgaj6td@4ax.com... > How do you test for shorts on the IT-17? > What does the dark letter on the roll chart indicate? > > Not sure how to use this thing, but it seems nice. > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 326029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <4375395B.7050801@iristech.com> Subject: Re: Philco 95 Lowboy Need Help ID'ing Smoked part Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:47:18 GMT "jim" wrote in message news:4375395B.7050801@iristech.com... > > Jim M. - Greensburg, Pa. > Jim, If you get stuck and want some one to look at it I can help. We could meet here: http://www.skyviewradio.net/ some night. Should be convenient to Greensburg, I think. Paul Penn Hills. Article: 326030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:25:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1Nfef.538849$x96.52754@attbi_s72> you guys seem to have had some luck. ive had horrible luck with overseas shipping with both usps, and fedx no matter how well the stuff was packed. havent shipped any radios that way, but other stuff that i would think would be much less fragile. randy "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:1Nfef.538849$x96.52754@attbi_s72... > In article <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > cadyc@mchsi.com says... >> >> >>I am Ebaying a Philco 70 and this guy asked if I can ship the radio to >>Spain. What in the world should I tell him? >>Here's the auction: >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6579071308&sspagename=ADME > :B:AAQ:US:1 >> >>Tox >> > > click up www.usps.com ... click up calculate postage... pick spain... > put in the weight of your box... now your going to be Air Parcel Post > or Global express as there you have 108 inches of total box to play > with ... where Slow Boat is only 79 inches and that radio in decent > box will be bigger than that... looks like ballpark 130 bucks to me > ..... not a big deal to fill out customs forms... and that guy in > Spain.... I bet his bucks are bigger than the USA bidders bucks... > > I see nothing wrong with selling to most any foreign country... > > This is from Me.... who has writers cramps from filling out forms... > ebay in the last 6 weeks... $15,000 ........... during that time > we also paid $3000 + to the post office and UPS.... and Flea Bay > got about 1K ... > > John k9uwa > Article: 326031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:18:50 GMT Mark, I might take you up on that offer, however I'm still trying to figure out what I've got here. It seems a few years ago I needed one, and was able to cross-reference some of the transistors in this box as being a suitable replacement. But that was well, years ago. I gave you the short story, now here's the long story: Yesterday I had somebody drive down here from Ocala with a Corvette radio, asking if I could fix it. With him looking over my shoulder, I put it on the bench and got perfect audio right up to the base of the DS-501. I got around 12 volts at the base, a 0.2 drop at the emitter, and zero at the collector (normal would be 1.5v). As for other components that are related, there is a bias adjustment in the emitter circuit (verified the rheostat is fine), an electrolytic which is one third of an FP can -- which somebody substituted with a new one but left the other two FP's intact, and a three-legged cap that goes to emitter-base-ground. With the caps removed and the bias adjusted anywhere, I get the same thing. I pulled the transistor and tested it. Now -- is it just me, or does anyone else have problems checking germaniums? Silicon I can tell right away, but germaniums are screwy. I tried a digital meter, the numbers just flopped around in meaningless fashion. I tried it on a VTVM, and it appears to be shorted emitter to collector both ways (but wouldn't I get 12 volts at the speaker?). I checked it with a VOM, and it showed OPEN collector! So, with the fellow still at my shoulder, I went through my books to cross-reference the DS-501. The GE book shows GE-4, the SK book shows SK-3012, and the EGC book didn't show anything. I've got an ECG software on the computer which doesn't recognize the number. I'll admit I didn't check for NTE, but I was using older manuals because they would be more prone to show this obsolete type. At this point I was not interested in trying to mail-order a replacement, but to check my cigar box of power transistors to see which of those "buttons" will also cross reference to a GE-4 or SK-3012, remembering I had been successful before. One type cross-references to a silicon (I didn't check to see if it's round or some other configuration to verify if I'm on the right track); the other crosses to a zener, which is obviously erroneous. That's as far as I was able to get. I did find, in the box, another DS-501, but it's used. Still it's worth a try. I checked it with the meters, they show the exact same thing. I put it in the radio, I get the exact same result. So, do I suspect two bad transistors with the exact same problem or could it be something else in the circuit even though it all appears good? Testing, or subbing, an "unknown" at this point would be useless, but if I determined that they are indeed similar I could try this. The solution? I just received a Delco radio for conversion -- when I remove the DS-501 I'll try it in this radio. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:vLqdnc2UM7qq7-TenZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Gary, > I have several of these type output xsistors too. One is labelled 501 I > think if you still need some. > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:xU4ef.1669$c27.375@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> If any of you have ever messed with car radios, you'll know that Delco >> radios used a DS-501 power transistor for nearly every radio, from the > first >> hybrids right on up into the 1970's. These germanium transistor didn't > fail >> often, which i probably why replacements are scarce today. In fact the >> books I have show replacements as either an SK-3012 or a GE-4. ECG > doesn't >> have a cross-reference. These things can be expensive, if you can find > them >> at all. >> >> So -- right now I have a Corvette radio with no sound, and what appears >> to >> be a DS-501 that's bad. Now -- I happen to have a cigar box full of new >> power transistors that are that distinctive size and shape of the DS-501. >> However I can't seem to determine what they are to see if they >> cross-reference. Some of them are gold colored and have "108 6507" on > them, >> others are silver and say "466 108 6621", and still others are gold and > say >> "049 6222." Can anyone identify these transistors and tell me if they > would >> make a compatible substitute for a DS-501? >> >> Of course if they can't be identified, I may try and stick one in just to >> see what happens . .. . >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> > > > Article: 326032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Rotel RA1312 heavy amp problem Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:39:58 -0000 Message-ID: This large rack amp was last used in a social club, working order, many years ago. Not powered up since and only front lamps now come on. I assumed,initially, it was just lack of amp - preamp interlinks but no. I'm loathe to explore unnecessarily if its an equally silly error as it is that nasty brittle age hardened single conductor wiring loom and wire-wraps everywhere - typical 1960s, probable manu date 1969. Good stable +/-50V dc rails and cold "diode " checks of all the o/p trannies look ok but the speaker line relay does not click over. Any inside gen ? -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 326033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: FA Nice RCA T10-1 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:10:08 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:ToydnQVFuN1cwOTeRVn-uw@comcast.com... > not mine, but a great radio! You dont see restored ones much either. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-T-10-1-Tombstone-Radio_W0QQitemZ5829166418QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark > I have a fully restored T10-1 and they are great radios. Mine was restored by Chris Haedt. I picked it up along with a Philco 16B cathedral from him several years ago. I know Mark is familiar with his work, but for those who are not, he was an exceptional radio service tech, and wood worker. He is sadly missed by many. Larry Fowkes Article: 326034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:09:38 GMT You have a very interesting and well-made website! I was going to ask if you knew Norm Smith, but I noticed you made reference to his book in your history page. Norm is a friend of mine who is heavily into transistor radios. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Jim Barnard" wrote in message news:dl8emj$poi$1@news3.infoave.net... > After several years of repairing Zenith transistor radios, I opened an > Internet storefront last Friday. In addition to my business solicitation, > the site a good bit of history, a Zenith transistor cross-reference, an > links to some in-depth Zenith transistor radio history, and transistor > history. The website's name is www.transistor-repairs.com > > Those who enjoy these little radios, might want to have to look. Thanks. > > Jim Barnard > Jim's Transistor Restorations > Specializing in Zenth Transistor Radios > Article: 326035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Philco 52 question- volume pot value? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:19:36 +0100 Message-ID: <6cc38bc3b41c710ce087b917aa18a0ab@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Normally I wouldn't worry about matching the value of an antenna input volume pot, but this one also varies the cathode voltage of the IF amp. It's part #1 in the old schematics- does anyone know what the resistance is supposed to be? Mine has a non-original 7.5K which seems way to low in value and likely kills the Q of the input transformer. -Pete O. AI2V Article: 326036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" References: <1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Positive ground auto radios Message-ID: <437a1a92$1@news.meer.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:27:43 -0500 Wayne, As long as the radio used tubes, it could care less whether it was positive or negative battery ground. When solid state got involved even for those that only used solid state power amps, then everything changed. When you buy a replacement vibrator of today's design, you must specify whether positive or negative ground. Also, one might try to cheat a bit by insulating the radio, but what about the antenna- usually the base of the antenna and the antenna cable shield is car ground. Hope I've covered this right. Fred Crews "wagil" wrote in message news:1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Does anyone have any coments/thoughts/opinions about why some auto > makers had a positive ground electrical system and what the merits of a > pos ground system. Also--how this affected their auto radios. It > seems as tho the radio wouldn't care which was ground, but maybe > someone has some insight about this? > > Thanks for your help and comments > > Wayne > Article: 326037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Rotel RA1312 heavy amp problem Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:19:18 GMT Just use RCA cords those interconnects are 99.928467% RCA phono jacks anyway. Secondly, I doubt it could be as bad as a Sansui 3000A or some of those tiny sports cars you guys made ;-)...if it is c.1969 as you say it's not going to be like that 1603? "monster" receiver with plutonium pellets and handservants needed to feed it. Just a lot of capacitors, I'll bet, and one of them ought to be bad (especially the big ones over 1000 mf), causing the protection circuit to abort liftoff. Second place to look is all that wiring, third maybe any block resistors. What I've gathered from some 1968-71 sets (having an unplugged, unpowered set discharge through my stereophones was a "thrill" too), so I'm just theorizing, still hope it helps. Those era sets are so charming but so arcane as I was maybe 2 or 3 and things were much different by the time I got to looking in them at maybe 12. "N Cook" wrote in message news:dlcl2u$ldq$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > This large rack amp was last used in a social club, working order, many > years ago. > Not powered up since and only front lamps now come on. > I assumed,initially, it was just lack of amp - preamp interlinks but no. > I'm loathe to explore unnecessarily if its an equally silly error as it is > that nasty brittle age hardened single conductor wiring loom and wire-wraps > everywhere - typical 1960s, probable manu date 1969. > Good stable +/-50V dc rails and cold "diode " checks of all the o/p trannies > look ok but the speaker line relay does not click over. > Any inside gen ? > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > Article: 326038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1132078144.961636.272710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA console listed "project radio"...looks nice... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:26:25 GMT "Bob" wrote in message news:1132078144.961636.272710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Guess that the seller wanted it clear that it is not "plug and play", > but needs some repair. Nothing most of us in this newsgroup couldn't > handle. Still has no bids at around $30...not the type of deal I can drive to Ohio either but it's a fine looking set and the cabinet wouldn't even be hard to work on. It looks like somebody tried to take good care of it and some of it got away from them. It's always nice to see sets like that. Article: 326039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437A2F96.F7D12F5@sympatico.ca> From: John Stewart Subject: Re: Positive ground auto radios References: <1131980661.287770.231860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:57:26 -0500 wagil wrote: > Does anyone have any coments/thoughts/opinions about why some auto > makers had a positive ground electrical system and what the merits of a > pos ground system. Also--how this affected their auto radios. It > seems as tho the radio wouldn't care which was ground, but maybe > someone has some insight about this? > > Thanks for your help and comments > > Wayne All the old Fords had +ve Gnd, up to 1953, anyway. I had a 32 (Duece Coupe), 40 Convertable, 48 Convertable & 53 Business Coupe, all with +ve gnd. Any that had radios & a rectifier didn't care. One story I used to hear was that Henry Ford himself had some idea +ve gnd was better! Can't remember why. Cheers, John Stewart Article: 326040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: Rotel RA1312 heavy amp problem Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:14:04 -0000 Message-ID: References: "Steven Dinius_" wrote in message news:GEpef.2064$ZA3.421481@monger.newsread.com... > Just use RCA cords those interconnects are 99.928467% RCA phono jacks > anyway. Secondly, I doubt it could be as bad as a Sansui 3000A or some of > those tiny sports cars you guys made ;-)...if it is c.1969 as you say it's > not going to be like that 1603? "monster" receiver with plutonium pellets > and handservants needed to feed it. Just a lot of capacitors, I'll bet, and > one of them ought to be bad (especially the big ones over 1000 mf), causing > the protection circuit to abort liftoff. Second place to look is all that > wiring, third maybe any block resistors. What I've gathered from some > 1968-71 sets (having an unplugged, unpowered set discharge through my > stereophones was a "thrill" too), so I'm just theorizing, still hope it > helps. Those era sets are so charming but so arcane as I was maybe 2 or 3 > and things were much different by the time I got to looking in them at maybe > 12. > > "N Cook" wrote in message > news:dlcl2u$ldq$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > This large rack amp was last used in a social club, working order, many > > years ago. > > Not powered up since and only front lamps now come on. > > I assumed,initially, it was just lack of amp - preamp interlinks but no. > > I'm loathe to explore unnecessarily if its an equally silly error as it is > > that nasty brittle age hardened single conductor wiring loom and > wire-wraps > > everywhere - typical 1960s, probable manu date 1969. > > Good stable +/-50V dc rails and cold "diode " checks of all the o/p > trannies > > look ok but the speaker line relay does not click over. > > Any inside gen ? > > > > -- > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > > > Thought i'd found problem I removed the large cap that seems to be for timing thinking it was leaky and powered up and the relay clicked over at power up, but replacing with a good one returned to always off. The line back from the main amp settles out to 0V soon after power up so that is probably ok, will try replacing the small tranniess in the relay ANDing and relay drive next as prob seems to be in the protection circuitry Article: 326041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Manuel Labor" Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:48:28 -0600 Message-ID: <11nkesgocgskcad@corp.supernews.com> References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> <1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <71nhn1ps6uc0upqvcgjp3sacnpkchn4p3q@4ax.com> <1132069146.486588.90200@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "The Horny Goat" wrote in message news:r51kn1hqogkklf8pqqbhg46eqsduurk871@4ax.com... > On 15 Nov 2005 07:39:06 -0800, "toxcrusadr" wrote: > > >I like Jimmy Carter too, of all the ex-presidents he has done more good > >for the world than any 3 others put together. And I'd take the senior > >Bush back over this guy any day. I can't believe it but I actually > >miss those days, these days. > > I like Carter too but the catch is he has been a far better > ex-president than he ever was as president. So please explain to me...WHAT IS A LATIN FAST HOUSE. Pretty Please... Article: 326042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bridger@all.costs Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: <76hkn1tate5qkj71kimsq4qdr9897l4c7c@4ax.com> References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> <1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <71nhn1ps6uc0upqvcgjp3sacnpkchn4p3q@4ax.com> <1132069146.486588.90200@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nkesgocgskcad@corp.supernews.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:29:01 -0700 On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:48:28 -0600, "Manuel Labor" wrote: > >"The Horny Goat" wrote in message >news:r51kn1hqogkklf8pqqbhg46eqsduurk871@4ax.com... >> On 15 Nov 2005 07:39:06 -0800, "toxcrusadr" wrote: >> >> >I like Jimmy Carter too, of all the ex-presidents he has done more good >> >for the world than any 3 others put together. And I'd take the senior >> >Bush back over this guy any day. I can't believe it but I actually >> >miss those days, these days. >> >> I like Carter too but the catch is he has been a far better >> ex-president than he ever was as president. > >So please explain to me...WHAT IS A LATIN FAST HOUSE. >Pretty Please... > latin house is a type of lively electronic music- latin fast house might be a variation of that... Article: 326043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Sovtek EL84 Parasitic Osc. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:48:11 -0500 Tried this on ag..amps ng, got no response. Any history of these tubes being unstable? They oscillate when the low freq tremolo is increased near max. amplitude in an Ampeg inst. amp. With the regular instrument input sounds like a bad spk. Can be stopped with tube shields, but that's not good for the toobs. The ot primary leads are as hot as a brides breath, lead dress or touching the leads can start/stop the osc. Who makes the best EL84/6BQ5, or is there a choice? Ken Article: 326044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:57:13 +0900 Message-ID: References: "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-1511051111180001@216-80-74-16.d.enteract.com... > In article , "Gary > Tayman" wrote: > >> Mark, >> >> I might take you up on that offer, however I'm still trying to figure out >> what I've got here. >> >> It seems a few years ago I needed one, and was able to cross-reference >> some >> of the transistors in this box as being a suitable replacement. But that >> was well, years ago. >> >> I gave you the short story, now here's the long story: >> >> Yesterday I had somebody drive down here from Ocala with a Corvette >> radio, >> asking if I could fix it. With him looking over my shoulder, I put it on >> the bench and got perfect audio right up to the base of the DS-501. I >> got >> around 12 volts at the base, a 0.2 drop at the emitter, and zero at the >> collector (normal would be 1.5v). > > Could it be a bad insulator causing a collector to ground short? A short > in the output trnasformer might also cause this. PNP transistor.. base should be negative in relation to the emitter. Perhaps a high C-E leakage? Article: 326045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:06:08 -0500 "M" wrote in message news:oUccf.1548$ZA3.323789@monger.newsread.com... > Oh, shut up, Bill. I've already dealt with him as far as I know and he's > killfiled at the ISP webfile level as well as in OE. If you haven't heard > from him, and I haven't seen his name in any other group members replies in > a while, you now have little to fret about. I've already sent some of his > garbage to AOL the host of AK last time I checked, and Comcast, his ISP. Sic > semper tyranis. > You stupid ass! YOU'RE the one everyone is trying to killfile! I am getting sick of your nonsense. Why don't you take Jim's earlier advice and solve your problems, and leave us alone? You're clogging my killfile as well. Idiot. > Article: 326046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437A5371.699D8538@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Delco DS-501 problem References: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:30:38 GMT Brenda Ann wrote: > > PNP transistor.. base should be negative in relation to the emitter. Perhaps > a high C-E leakage? The DS501 was a very leaky Germanium transistor and prone to thermal runaway. When they went bake the took out the emitter fuse resistor. I've replaced hundreds of both. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Transistor Repair/History Website Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:33:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: Gary: I have two of his books. He has done an outstanding job documenting the history and workings of these wonderful radios. Thanks for your comments. Jim "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:C_lef.1752$s14.1125@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > You have a very interesting and well-made website! > > I was going to ask if you knew Norm Smith, but I noticed you made > reference to his book in your history page. Norm is a friend of mine who > is heavily into transistor radios. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Jim Barnard" wrote in message > news:dl8emj$poi$1@news3.infoave.net... >> After several years of repairing Zenith transistor radios, I opened an >> Internet storefront last Friday. In addition to my business solicitation, >> the site a good bit of history, a Zenith transistor cross-reference, an >> links to some in-depth Zenith transistor radio history, and transistor >> history. The website's name is www.transistor-repairs.com >> >> Those who enjoy these little radios, might want to have to look. Thanks. >> >> Jim Barnard >> Jim's Transistor Restorations >> Specializing in Zenth Transistor Radios >> > > Article: 326048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: FA Nice RCA T10-1 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: <11nkrbn3kjvsoa5@corp.supernews.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > not mine, but a great radio! You dont see restored ones much either. This is the *exact* same radio Philco 16 just won for $127- a couple weeks back that Paul D. IIRC posted about on the Forum. NOW, they have listed- actually mislisted- it quickly. It must have something BAAAAD wrong with it. John H. Article: 326049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Hiss and crackles test! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:45:37 -0600 Kind of sounds like a cereal ; ) Heres what the seller said: I cannot test it fully, but it makes the correct hiss and crackles when powered up http://cgi.ebay.com/Eddystone-EC10-Mk-II-Communications-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5830925202QQcategoryZ4673QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Subbing an output transformer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:46:17 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:lgrkn1ptei6n0da7t76ob16470c8ku8m3g@4ax.com... > How important is it to match the resistance on output transformers. > I have a Crosley 56TX that has a bad one. The primary is open. I've > already taken it apart to see if I could find the break, but no luck. > > I found another with the same physical dimensions, but the secondary > resistance doesn't match the other. I don't know what the original's > primary was supposed to be. It's not on the schematic. > > Resistance is about double what the original had. I tried it on the > set and the set plays, but loudly. It'll probably over-drive the > speaker if you turn the volume all the way up. At lowest volume it's a > little scratchy because the pot is nearly at it's stop yet the volume > is low but easily audible. It's gets too loud at about 1/3 rotation. > > So, is it OK to leave it like that? It's usable, but is it going to > damage the tubes or anything? > .... > Blacksmith > If the radio has good volume the impedance match is pretty close. The critical thing is the turns ratio, the DC resistances are relatively meaningless. The output tube is probably running single ended Class A, so it probably don't care much about mismatches. If it works, I'd live with it. The volume control problem is a separate issue, IMHO. regards Pete Article: 326051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <8PXdf.9216$AS6.2269@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Variocoupler Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:48:12 -0500 "Northe Osbrink" wrote in message news:nG2ef.1591$c27.1307@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Brenda Ann, > > Brenda Ann wrote: > > > "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message > > > > A variocoupler can also be used to provide continuously-variable > coupling between the tuning coil and tickler in a regenerative circuit. > If you connect the two coils in series, with the rotating coil connected > in reverse, you wind up with a _variometer_, which results in an RF coil > with continuously-variable inductance. > > Northe, > N6KO > Many of the variometers I've seen allow for the variable coil to phase add, or phase buck for greater tuning range. Pete Article: 326052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Sovtek EL84 Parasitic Osc. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:13:47 -0500 "Ken" wrote in message news:oQref.29105$2k5.12613@dukeread09... > Tried this on ag..amps ng, got no response. Any history of these tubes > being unstable? They oscillate when the low freq tremolo is increased > near max. amplitude in an Ampeg inst. amp. With the regular instrument > input sounds like a bad spk. Can be stopped with tube shields, but > that's not good for the toobs. The ot primary leads are as hot as a > brides breath, lead dress or touching the leads can start/stop the osc. > Who makes the best EL84/6BQ5, or is there a choice? Ken > You might try using ferrite beads on the plate and grid leads to tame the parasitics. Series resistor on the grid might also help. The effectiveness depends on the frequency of the parasitics. If in the RF range, the beads might be enough. Pete Article: 326053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Sovtek EL84 Parasitic Osc. References: <1132089894.213670.20860@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:17:49 -0500 The amp uses cathode bias and there is no neg feedback used. They are on a pc board, and have not checked traces except by hanging probes in various places. Trouble is, these tubes are so shock sens and microphonic, very noisy. One pulses an orange glow with sig applied, but replaced it (with my only spare)and still get osc. Think I need to start off with two known good tubes. The two EL84's are within an inch of the powerful spk magnet, but osc continue when pulled away, depending on lead dress. If shields won't overheat the tubes, this might be a way to go. Of course, this could all change once everything is in place. Peter Wieck wrote: > Sylvania, and stopped some 30 years ago, sadly. > > Does the amp have adjustable bias, and is it OK? > Do the tubes sit on a PC board, and have you checked the traces? > Are there any signs of runaway (glowing plates, for example)? > No caps are leaking/open? Cold solder joints? Bad Diodes? (The usual > suspects). > > And, finally, ribbed tube shields making tight contact to the tube > actually INCREASE cooling capacity by increasing the radiation surface > away from the tube. Like finned heat-sinks on a transistor. So don't be > so quick to give up shields. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 326054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:25:47 -0500 Message-ID: <11nkv4ch4020p2c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > I am Ebaying a Philco 70 and this guy asked if I can ship the radio to > Spain. What in the world should I tell him? Tell him no, no, no, no, nah-na-na-na, no, no ,no,........... Someone ALWAYS writes from "Spain", I've seen the same question on a dozen auctions, same characteristic grammar. John H. Article: 326055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Hiss and crackles test! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:56:17 GMT Sounds like he's reviewing white noise and static. It was good enough for him to turn it off, satisfied that somebody wouldn't be mad as it still does SOMETHING. "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:Cquef.73845$RG4.52725@fe05.lga... > Kind of sounds like a cereal ; ) > > Heres what the seller said: > > I cannot test it fully, but it makes the correct hiss and crackles when > powered up > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Eddystone-EC10-Mk-II-Communications-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5830925202QQcategoryZ4673QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > Brian's Basement > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm > > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > > Article: 326056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Hiss and crackles test! Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:19:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: i dunno about it being correct, that one hissing sound seemed a bit off randy "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:Cquef.73845$RG4.52725@fe05.lga... > Kind of sounds like a cereal ; ) > > Heres what the seller said: > > I cannot test it fully, but it makes the correct hiss and crackles when > powered up > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Eddystone-EC10-Mk-II-Communications-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5830925202QQcategoryZ4673QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > Brian's Basement > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm > > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > Article: 326057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET> <1132089583.611181.9390@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:28:55 GMT Certainly not myself. I was laying low from Grumpy hoping he'd get the message even more so when his email would just magically get deleted at the ISP level from all his addresses and that having worked, I'm me again. You should write shit, Peter...you're a sitcom waiting to happen HAHA "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1132089583.611181.9390@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Uncle Peter: > > The problem with Skippy is that if he does not get a rise out of actual > human beings, he will create an identity and engage with himself. I am > waiting for him to start a thread, populate it with phantoms and > phantasms and amuse himself forever - away from us. God knows he has > enough going on inside his head to manage that feat with characters to > spare. He may even forget which he is at the moment so that he really > will think he is replying to a 'stranger'... and to paraphrase Groucho: > "Stranger than he? Not on this earth." > > His postings are easily discerned, and his collateral damage is visible > only when he is engaged. Try to avoid that. Neither logic, grace, > common sense, gentle persuasion nor even common courtesy have any > effect on his armor. Quit beating against it and look at it in the same > light as Fox News or the price of gasoline. Railing against either will > do you no actual good, and like-as-not you won't feel much better for > it either. But if you DO need to feel better.... go to the mirror, > stare into it and say three times: I am NOT Skippy. I am NOT Skippy. I > am NOT Skippy. There but for the grace of God... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 326058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: Cheap Walton? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:31:42 -0500 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6576812180 Any guesses why this didn't sell? (Besides the sideways grille cloth and wrong speaker--correctable issues). I've seen junker 7J battery versions go for over $1,000.00 This must have been a sleeper, or I missed something. Pete Article: 326059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7q9cf.1512$ZA3.320792@monger.newsread.com> <1131492789.770619.37310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Kacf.1525$ZA3.321913@monger.newsread.com> <1131502593.206830.35510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <18dcf.1553$ZA3.324103@monger.newsread.com> <1132095469.724499.139230@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:34:32 GMT Toxie, I haven't posted a single thing in that lard bucket in over a year that wasn't ghost written by David and Russ. Apparently they need a mortal enemy or something. I should charge a fortune for the rights. I will not stop them from burning the house down, for that THEIR HOUSE now. Good Night, Gracie Article: 326060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:37:27 GMT Let's see Ben was a piano player, John Boy wrote... Jason? " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:DZvef.50$1x.9@fed1read06... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6576812180 > > Any guesses why this didn't sell? (Besides the sideways grille cloth > and wrong speaker--correctable issues). I've seen junker 7J battery > versions go for over $1,000.00 This must have been a sleeper, or > I missed something. > > Pete > > > Article: 326061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:08:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nkv4ch4020p2c@corp.supernews.com> <1132105762.904315.56820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> personally i would look at it the other way.. is this thing so hard to sell that you need to go through the hassle of shipping it to spain? how much extra are you gonna get out of the radio by doing so? i mean for twice what you could get in america, its probably a good idea, but for an extra buck or two is it really worth it? randy "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1132105762.904315.56820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > John, if you are _paid_ and the money is _certain_, then why not? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 326062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:26:25 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? References: Message-ID: Uncle Peter wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6576812180 > > Any guesses why this didn't sell? (Besides the sideways grille cloth > and wrong speaker--correctable issues). I've seen junker 7J battery > versions go for over $1,000.00 This must have been a sleeper, or > I missed something. > > Pete > > > He doesn't take PayPal. Seriously, can you see any other reason? -ex Article: 326063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> <4377C17E.8B462E9@optonline.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:42:42 -0500 Sal Brisindi wrote: > I found this little neat website on the Olympic transistor radio. You can > chek it out here. http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/olympic.html > > Regards, > Sal > > Sal Brisindi wrote: > > >>Has anyone ever seen a radio like this? This radio has a tube chassis >>but transistors plugged into the tube sockets. Looks like Olympic >>converted their tube portable into a transistor portable so they did not >>have to retool their assembly line. Click here for the photo. >>http://www.tuberadios.com/ebay/olympic.jpg >> >>This belongs to a friend of mine, I have to repair it. >> >>Regards, >>Sal Brisindi > > anybody have the schematic for this one? Article: 326064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Bill writes: > Uncle Peter wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6576812180 >> >> Any guesses why this didn't sell? (Besides the sideways grille cloth >> and wrong speaker--correctable issues). I've seen junker 7J battery >> versions go for over $1,000.00 This must have been a sleeper, or >> I missed something. >He doesn't take PayPal. Seriously, can you see any other reason? That's silly. I'm on the pro-paypal side big time -- luv it, luv it, luv it. But if there's something out there I really want no paypal won't stop me. I just scored a brochure for one of my early X-ray machines where the seller was in the anti-paypal camp. So I sent him a check, and he actually sent me the item before my check cleared my bank. (Still hasn't, in fact. Hmmm. :) Would've been fine by me if he'd waited until it cleared, as I expected. In this particular auction I might e-mail the seller and ask why he doesn't want personal checks, with him waiting for some time before shipping to make sure I'm not pulling a fast one. Maybe he just doesn't want the money showing up in an account for tax purposes. I know a dealer like that. Anyway, seems he's got good feedback. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:44:15 -0500 Message-ID: <11nl780jeosv5cf@corp.supernews.com> References: Bill wrote: > > He doesn't take PayPal. Seriously, can you see any other reason? > It's just a matter of having a RESERVE (rhymes with "coward"). No one wanted to bother to find out what it is, probably 2K. Intelligent, smart, money wanting sellers ALWAYS go barefoot- set the starting bid at bare minimum and understand eBay shall determine actual worth. If it started at $750- and went for $788-, we'd all know that, period, is what a Walton is currently worth. BUT all we know from this auction is how high will people go when they know the reserve is a billion dollars and it doesn't matter anyway. John H. Article: 326066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1132108596.954739.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:45:23 -0500 wrote in message news:1132108596.954739.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > A wrong speaker probably means that there was a 9 tube chassis stuffed > into a Walton cabinet. 9 tube chassis are plentiful, but not with the > correct 8" speaker. A veneer repair on the top? Sounds bad for paying > a grand for a radio. If 7J's went for a grand, then they paid too much > for it. Maybe the Walton frenzy is over. > There's a cheap Zenith tombstone with a dead-ringer speaker that can be used in the 9 tube Walton. "Faked" refinished 7J's with a 9 tube chassis have gone for well over 2K. I've been amazed at what basket case 7J' s have gone for. Maybe the frenzy is cooling? Pete Article: 326067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Heathkit IT-17 tester question References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:47:28 -0500 Blacksmith wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:30:41 GMT, "Paul P" > wrote: > > >>I downloaded a users manual from BAMA. >>http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/heath/it17/ I use it all the time because I >>forget what the bold means. > > > > Thanks Paul, > I downloaded the info. > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Heath made a lot of look a like tube testers. I have the IT-21, which AFAIK has the same circuit as the IT-17. Only the case was changed. BTW anybody know why these tube testers came with a 1625/59 style 7 pin socket instead of the 6A7 style? Article: 326068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:58:00 -0500 Message-ID: <11nl81p379qerf8@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nkv4ch4020p2c@corp.supernews.com> <1132105762.904315.56820@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > John, if you are _paid_ and the money is _certain_, then why not? > Are you KIDDING Peter ? I look at eBay a lot, and I see these guys "I want you ship radio to Spain" all over. Sure, perhaps there is some eager collector wanting an American radio. But in my experience 90% of the time these people back out of the deal once they get a shipping quote (often even after the sale, they back out having shipping cost remorse), or won't pay for airmail. When folks clearly say "big, heavy, low value item, US/Canadian bidders only" I think they have a right to have that respected. Instead they often get requests (we only see the letter they CHOOSE to post), sometimes quite rude, to ship the radio to Elbonian. Or in my case recently WHAT sane honest person would want to ship a broken $700- Acura to California? PLONK- into the Blocked list I say..... Sturdy stuff like audio gear, tubes etc. I sell to Asia all the time. But I hate sending cathedrals farther than Chicago. John H. Article: 326069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <8g6jn1dlfikhb9f4pb9nsn60uasb3nrtgd@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Victor RE 57 Message-ID: <3gxef.6721$lb7.76302@news1.mts.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:47:52 -0800 "Ron Hershey" wrote in message news:8g6jn1dlfikhb9f4pb9nsn60uasb3nrtgd@4ax.com... > Hi Nelson: > > I don't know if you acquired that RE57 but I just noticed a carbon > microphone on eBay that is the correct match for that set. > http://cgi.ebay.com/Two-Old-Microphones-one-from-1920s_W0QQitemZ5830184299QQ categoryZ48695QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > I have no connection whatsoever with this auction. > > On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:54:33 -0800, "Nelson Gietz" > wrote: > > >Just saw one go down by the 'Bay for $911 USD tonight. > >It had the mic, the weight for cutting records, and about 40 blanks, IIRC. > >Does anyone know whether that's a carbon mic they used? > > I have my eye on one for about 1/4 the price at a local antique shop, no > >mic, and the cabinet has been painted white with gold highlights.(!) > > Cheers, > > Nelson > > > regards, > Ron Hershey Thanks for the heads-up Ron! I did get the radio (big job ahead), and I'll check out that mic! Nelson Article: 326070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:56:09 -0700 Message-ID: <11202-437A9FC9-1006@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: This happens on many items on ebay . I seriously hope people wise up about the money paid for this average ordinary tombstone radio .I would like one for my Zenith collection , 800$ is still to much . Paypal has nothing to do with it . I dont like or want to use paypal and know others who dont either . Its wierd & curious to see how these hold up . John Goller usually always scoops these up at 1K .. maybe its a scam ? Article: 326071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:04:58 -0500 Message-ID: <11nl8es8k2c8n85@corp.supernews.com> References: Tim Mullen wrote: > So I sent him a > check, and he actually sent me the item before my check cleared > my bank. GOD I HATE that ! I take a good long time writing and mailing those checks, and I damn well want them to take their time shipping. It means the radio will only wait 2 years to get fixed instead of 25 months, and this makes me feels more productive. John H. Article: 326072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:21:18 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> <4377C17E.8B462E9@optonline.net> Message-ID: <6d417$437aa5b1$4232bd23$15638@COQUI.NET> Ken Scharf wrote: >> >> > anybody have the schematic for this one? 1957 Beitmans. They have a chassis layout and it shows transistor sockets. I guess they had a bunch of tube chassis they needed to use up. -Bill Article: 326073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 03:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11nl8es8k2c8n85@corp.supernews.com> In <11nl8es8k2c8n85@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> So I sent him a >> check, and he actually sent me the item before my check cleared >> my bank. >GOD I HATE that ! I take a good long time writing and mailing those >checks, and I damn well want them to take their time shipping. Right? They guy didn't even hand-write the address label; just clipped it outta the printout and tossed it in the mail. The nerve! Whatever happened to the good ole days of bespoke packaging? >It means >the radio will only wait 2 years to get fixed instead of 25 months, and >this makes me feels more productive. Yer skating on thin ice there, John. If you go by the "one, two, and many" counting system 25 months does translate to "many years". That's not good. This being a brochure, it doesn't need much in the way of recapping. Besides, I did appreciate getting it early -- a good party's coming up and I can always use more tips on x-ray beam current. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:34:26 +0900 Message-ID: References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> <4377C17E.8B462E9@optonline.net> <6d417$437aa5b1$4232bd23$15638@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:6d417$437aa5b1$4232bd23$15638@COQUI.NET... > Ken Scharf wrote: > > >>> >>> >> anybody have the schematic for this one? > > 1957 Beitmans. They have a chassis layout and it shows transistor > sockets. I guess they had a bunch of tube chassis they needed to use up. > Page 89 for the tube model, 90 for the transistor. Interesting to note the design changes between the two. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Thu Nov 17 00:31:39 EST 2005 Article: 326075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Frankenphonos, Crap-O-Phonos, etc References: <__wdf.8499$AS6.2526@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 11 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 04:08:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1132114095 66.65.49.10 (Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:08:15 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:08:15 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326075 In article <__wdf.8499$AS6.2526@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, george conklin wrote: > supported by flimsy connectors. It is too bad someone does not just sell > the horns with fittings for Edisons and others, just like merchants used to Hmm....maybe someone could figure out who supplies the horns and then tool up some adapters for fitting onto real phonos? Sounds like a nice market. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 326076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? References: <11nl8es8k2c8n85@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 04:32:51 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > Yer skating on thin ice there, John. If you go by the "one, two, > and many" counting system 25 months does translate to "many years". > That's not good. But if you count in decades, it is "less than one." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Freebies for the holidays: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:10:16 +0900 Message-ID: Beitman's on CD for free, just pay me the 60 cents it costs me to mail the disc. Includes the searchable index and the djvu plugin for Internet Explorer. The e-mail is good. Write me if you want 'em. Article: 326078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Sovtek EL84 Parasitic Osc. Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:13:27 -0800 Message-ID: References: Ken wrote: > Tried this on ag..amps ng, got no response. Any history of these tubes > being unstable? They oscillate when the low freq tremolo is increased > near max. amplitude in an Ampeg inst. amp. With the regular instrument > input sounds like a bad spk. Can be stopped with tube shields, but > that's not good for the toobs. The ot primary leads are as hot as a > brides breath, lead dress or touching the leads can start/stop the osc. > Who makes the best EL84/6BQ5, or is there a choice? Ken > The parasitic oscillations you are hearing is the sound of your output tubes self-destructing. Turn OFF that amp and do some measurements. I worked on a couple of Ampeg amps about 20 years or so ago. They had the output tubes mounted directly on the amp's PC board....A terrible idea for anything that was going to be transported repeatedly. No way the tubes should get hot enough for the plates to glow orange. There is almost definitely something awry in the circuitry. The basics are not too much different from repairing a vintage radio-Check the value of all resistors, and confirm that any coupling and bypass caps are not leaky. Use a tube extender and measure the resistances and voltages at the socket pins, and then at the base of the tube-do they match? Is your OT still good? Are all the PC board traces intact and are the solder connections good? Has the amp been modified to give it that "nasty" sound? If you look hard enough you will find the problem(s). However, an amp this old would benefit from the full rebuild treatment to ensure continued reliability. -Scott Article: 326079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11nl8es8k2c8n85@corp.supernews.com> In Jeffrey D Angus writes: >But if you count in decades, it is "less than one." Does that also work for one's age? Not like anybody here would be surprised to find out I'm 4-1/2. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wurlitzer Orbit III - Out Of Tune...Help! From: Larry References: <1132004173.026515.303980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132019520.364740.169810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 01:01:40 -0500 jonathandowns@gmail.com wrote in news:1132019520.364740.169810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > i'm hoping there is some master oscillator somewhere that would > allow me to nudge the thing back into proper pitch. There is. You'll find a master oscillator and a specialized IC called a "Top Octave Synthesizer" that takes the very-high-frequency oscillator and divides it into the top octave for the divider ICs. I believe your model has that oscillator just inside the back cover. Remove the cardboard back, then remove 3 long woodscrews that screw into the top above the Orbit Synth though the board over the back cover that will release the back of the top board. Once the screws are removed, slide the board back away from the keys and the top comes off. (If that model has key lights in the top, unplug the plug to the lights on the top.) The oscillator/TOS is a separate board with a couple of transistors and one IC chip, the TOS on it. It may be screwed into the back of the organ. There will be one adjustable coil (Hartley oscillator) and you'll need a hex tuning tool to adjust the slug like the IF coils in an old radio. Tuning that adjusts the whole organ's frequency. WalMart, of all places, Electronics Department, has a fantastic Chromatic, fully automatic tuner for $20 that has LEDs to tell you what note it hears and 3 LEDS to tune that note flat - in tune - sharp. A great tuning device that can also be put inline with a guitar to its amp for tuning onstage, inline. Music dealers get $80 for similar tuners...retail. By the way, the divider chain ICs in that thing are a pain in the ass to change. They are soldered into a circuit board UNDER the top manual, damn them! There are 4-legged, single-stage, divide-by-two ICs and 6 legged, two stage, divide-by-two ICs up under there. The extra two legs are Vcc + and - (which is grounded). The TOS feeds these little ICs under the top manual keybed. These little ICs have a tendency to short to their rails, which, if they are the top divider, will blow the EXPENSIVE Top Octave Synthesizer IC output of one of the notes...or...blow the little divider IC output that's feeding the shorted one. From any point to ground with no key down, there should be about 2.5K ohms to ground or B+ (organ off of course) and you check it BEFORE you solder in the replacement after you've gotten the bad one out.....so you don't blow the new one. Just a service note WHEN, not if, it blows a divider IC...(c; -- Larry Had a similar Wurlitzer with a complaint of dead pedals, a spinet, in an old lady's house. Problem was someone had sabotaged the pedals with a purple Duncan yoyo, putting it so the pedals wouldn't go down up inside the pedal space. "Oh, my SON must have done that when he was 12 and I forced him to take lessons.", she exclaimed. I asked her how old her son was, now. "He's 45.", she said. Guess she hadn't tried to play the pedals in many years...(c; Her son is a bigshot lawyer so he did ok, anyways.... Article: 326081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:28:22 -0700 Message-ID: seems every time i search for anything these days i run into these 'blind links'. url's that look legit, but take you to ebay searching for your search. how annoying.... is it just me or have others noticed this too? randy Article: 326082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: Sovtek EL84 Parasitic Osc. Message-ID: <26Bef.767$wf.151@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:21:34 GMT I agree, but the guitar folks want to retain the "sound" of the amp, with paper caps and carbon(ized) resistors Geez, if you ask me, I'd raise the value of the electrolytic caps in mF and slightly lower the resistance.to each power tube. Of course I'd check all the caps and resistors as well as the B+. and filament voltages. Omer "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dlef5q024th@news3.newsguy.com... > Ken wrote: >> Tried this on ag..amps ng, got no response. Any history of these tubes >> being unstable? They oscillate when the low freq tremolo is increased >> near max. amplitude in an Ampeg inst. amp. With the regular instrument >> input sounds like a bad spk. Can be stopped with tube shields, but that's >> not good for the toobs. The ot primary leads are as hot as a brides >> breath, lead dress or touching the leads can start/stop the osc. Who >> makes the best EL84/6BQ5, or is there a choice? Ken >> > > The parasitic oscillations you are hearing is the sound of your output > tubes self-destructing. Turn OFF that amp and do some measurements. > > I worked on a couple of Ampeg amps about 20 years or so ago. They had the > output tubes mounted directly on the amp's PC board....A terrible idea for > anything that was going to be transported repeatedly. > > No way the tubes should get hot enough for the plates to glow orange. > There is almost definitely something awry in the circuitry. > > The basics are not too much different from repairing a vintage radio-Check > the value of all resistors, and confirm that any coupling and bypass caps > are not leaky. Use a tube extender and measure the resistances and > voltages at the socket pins, and then at the base of the tube-do they > match? Is your OT still good? Are all the PC board traces intact and are > the solder connections good? Has the amp been modified to give it that > "nasty" sound? > > If you look hard enough you will find the problem(s). However, an amp this > old would benefit from the full rebuild treatment to ensure continued > reliability. > > -Scott Article: 326083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Sovtek EL84 Parasitic Osc. References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:24:28 -0500 Thanks, Guys, got work to do. Ken Ken wrote: > Tried this on ag..amps ng, got no response. Any history of these tubes > being unstable? They oscillate when the low freq tremolo is increased > near max. amplitude in an Ampeg inst. amp. With the regular instrument > input sounds like a bad spk. Can be stopped with tube shields, but > that's not good for the toobs. The ot primary leads are as hot as a > brides breath, lead dress or touching the leads can start/stop the osc. > Who makes the best EL84/6BQ5, or is there a choice? Ken > Article: 326084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:38:58 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: Message-ID: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> xrongor wrote: > seems every time i search for anything these days i run into these 'blind > links'. url's that look legit, but take you to ebay searching for your > search. how annoying.... > > is it just me or have others noticed this too? > > randy > > The other Randy, the capitalized one, and I were discussing this on abpr just a couple of weeks ago and he explained how these links work in regard to capturing your search. At one time Google discouraged these 'links to other links' pages and even had a mechanism to report them. Now it seems that some of these pages are not short on Google ads. Methinks Google needs to take a serious look at the problem and try to resolve it. You're not alone in being annoyed. -Bill From adouglasatgis.net Thu Nov 17 00:31:41 EST 2005 Article: 326085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Heathkit IT-17 tester question Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:38:28 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-419.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326085 Hi, >BTW anybody know why these tube testers came with a 1625/59 style >7 pin socket instead of the 6A7 style? The socket holes are elongated to accept both bases. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Thu Nov 17 00:31:41 EST 2005 Article: 326086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Who knows these? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:55:15 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <437added$0$155$3a628fcd@reader1.nntp.hccnet.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-860.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!rex!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326086 Hi, I don't recognize the cabinet but the styling is 1930 plus or minus a year. As you suspected, the original dial window would have been much smaller. A Garrard phono in a U.S. radio seems a bit odd, but I'm no expert on radio-phono combinations. Maybe it was Canadian? Alan Article: 326087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:29:31 -0700 Message-ID: <15731-437B343B-2@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1132146528.916890.113950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Oops Eddie your still stuck on that . You better sell me yours for 15$ to save all the widows in the world :-) Article: 326088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11202-437A9FC9-1006@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:44:40 GMT In article <11202-437A9FC9-1006@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>, goodguyy@webtv.net says... > > >Its wierd & curious to see how these hold up . John Goller usually >always scoops these up at 1K .. maybe its a scam ? > Naw it was a legit auction... I looked at that one early on.. said to self... wrong speaker... not sure about top of radio.. reserve??? already restored... probably not going to be priced where I would buy it... then got busy and didn't notice the final on it till Pete ask me about it... I am also busy trying to get ready to leave Indiana for the winter.. Jean and I delivered one of her latest creations last evening... Sparton Equasonne model 301 ... http://www.johnjeanantiqueradio.com/sparton.htm THe last knob for it will be here next week one day... Dave Frush had one.. and yes the radio is running on a pair of Sub Tubes in place of the globe 50's ... they are setting up on a shelf.. Radio plays well... Customer is happy and I am happy to have to gone!... it has lived here for close to two years while being restored!... John k9uwa Article: 326089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:52:59 GMT In article <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >Methinks Google needs to take a serious look at the problem and try to >resolve it. You're not alone in being annoyed. > >-Bill I thought perhaps that ebay was spending advertisement dollars to google to make it happen?... and yup it is annoying as hell!.. if I want to search ebay I do know how! John k9uwa Article: 326090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wurlitzer Orbit III - Out Of Tune...Help! From: Larry References: <1132004173.026515.303980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132019520.364740.169810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1132147719.175314.182120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:56:38 -0500 jonathandowns@gmail.com wrote in news:1132147719.175314.182120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > you're the man! you're efforts are very, very appreciated. i am > recording this organ this weekend, and i was going to have to pitch > shift the organ if i couldn't figure it out...and i didn't want to have > to do that. email me (jonathandowns AT gmail.com) if you'd like to hear > the track. > > thanks again, > jon. > > Glad to help, Jon. I've been in the organ repair biz since 1986. I have about a thousand customers....who, recently, haven't had near enough trouble with their instruments to make a decent living...(c; What I need is a week of intense thunderstorms to blow a few power supplies and Leslie speakers. That just hasn't happened this summer in SC. It usually keeps me hopping. There's still a few Lowreys and Kimballs around all corroded up, as usual. Your Wurlitzer may have some intermittent keywires. Quick and dirty cleaning is really easy. Press the key down and put your finger on the plastic plunger under the keybed. Wiggle it back and forth, scraping the wires against the collector bars until it stops crackling. Polishes 'em right up. You can also adjust that Wurlitzer's key switches so the keys play at the same level as you press them down. This also corrects for some dead stops on a key because the wires bend over time. At the back of the key is a little adjustment screw, on top of the key behind where you'd put your fingers to play it. This screw moves the rubber cup under the key the plastic switch actuator sit in, up and down, adjusting the level the actuator operates over. Adjust all of them, one note at a time, so they start to play the notes about 1/8" from the up position. All the wires should play all the notes by the time it goes down 1/4" or so. If one of the switch wires is way off, bend the dead end of that wire CAREFULLY to align it with the others. Superglue works on the plastic actuator rod if you find one cracked, not an unusual occurance at all. The rods being a little crooked is just normal. If they work, don't try to get them vertical as you add to the stress and may break them. Soldering divider ICs under the keybed is lots of fun in that WIRING MAZE on top of them. Be careful you don't bump the soldering iron against any wires as you unsolder and resolder the little ICs. Luckily, they are all TTL and not static sensitive like old CMOS. THE TOP OCTAVE SYNTHESIZER IS STATIC SENSITIVE LIKE AN OLD CLOCK IC. IT'LL BLOW IF YOU BREATHE ON IT...and it's best left in its socket unless you just have to remove it. They come wrapped in tin foil to protect them. All the ICs in the Orbit are static sensitive. They're awful. That'll give you something to chew on while you're playing around in there. The construction of these Wurlitzers showed how cheap the company had become. I work 'em but I hate 'em. -- Larry Gotta go....A Kimball monstrosity awaits me...(c; Article: 326091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:09:03 GMT On 15-Nov-2005, "xrongor" wrote: > seems every time i search for anything these days i run into these 'blind > links'. url's that look legit, but take you to ebay searching for your > search. how annoying.... > > is it just me or have others noticed this too? It's been going on for quite a while and yes, it is annoying. What is also becoming a problem are the several emails I've received lately, coming through the Ebay "ask seller a question" link, asking "why I haven't paid for the (enter you least favorite item here)?" or, "do you still want item # .........?". I forward them to Ebay, for all the good it does. Most of them seem to come from ESL types as the wording is reminiscent of early Japanese instruction manuals. Haggis. Article: 326092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? References: <11nl8es8k2c8n85@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:13:42 -0600 Tim Mullen wrote: > Does that also work for one's age? Not like anybody here > would be surprised to find out I'm 4-1/2. I think most of us had already figured that out ;>) ! -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:27:34 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <481e5$437b4fe8$4232bd6e$29875@COQUI.NET> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > I thought perhaps that ebay was spending advertisement dollars to google > to make it happen?... Oh, that would be the regular ebay stuff found on Google :) > > and yup it is annoying as hell!.. if I want to search ebay I do know how! The ones that are the most annoying are simply third party click-thru sites that make a penny everytime they get a hit on their page full of ads and links. Not just to ebay...they seem to be remoras to lots of big sites, probably unbeknownst to the original site owners - who certainly wouldn't complain about the free publicity. -Bill Article: 326094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Sovtek EL84 Parasitic Osc. References: <1132089894.213670.20860@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132105468.173074.144220@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:28:44 -0600 John Stone wrote: At the outset - let me state that I'm not commenting one way or the other on the O/Ps assertion (about "gentle"). That said: > The plates are run at 360-370volts, which is actually 60-70 volts ABOVE > the max plate voltage rating for a 6BQ5. Max plate ratings for most tubes are notoriously conservative... I'm aware of a guy who runs 50C5s with 600V on the plates in a push-pull modulator (the plates in the PA are run at a "more modest" 300V). Check those numbers against "max plate" rating in the manuals... Not that I'd recommend doing so with abandon with just any tube - but some can take a lot of abuse and keep going. Current is the "usual" killer of tubes... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: Rotel RA1312 heavy amp problem Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:29:25 -0000 Message-ID: References: cured - rail monitoring problem - write up will be on one of the repair brief files on URL below -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 326096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:32:01 -0000 Message-ID: References: latest version will be on in week or so http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm Allen Key : hex key , hex wrench, Allen wrench answerphone : answering machine anti-clockwise : counter-clockwise Araldite (epoxy glue) : J B Weld Avo (meter, short for Avocet ) [old analogue multimeter ] : VTVM (vacuum tube voltmeter; usually line-powered) or a VOM (volt-ohmmeter; usually battery-powered) Bakelite : Catlin banana plugs : wander plugs billion (before year 1974 ) : million million (the) box, telly : television (set) Bulgin connectors : ? earth [voltage reference] : ground elastic band, rubber band : flex enameled copper wire : magnet wire engineer's persuader for percussive maintenance : knockometer flex : electric cord Gilbows : tinsnips Harwin/Molex connectors : Amp/Tyco Hellerman pliers ,(triple prong sleeving expanders) : ? high tension (HT) : high voltage (hv) imperial (measurements ) : inches,feet,yards,miles jack : plug (male part of a connection) LOPT , Line Output Transformer (pronounced Lop-tee) : IHVT (Flyback Transformer) , IFBT = Integrated FlyBack Transformer mains (power) [electricity supply company power feed ] : line (power) maths (mathematics ) : math metric (measurements, mm ,cm, metres,km) : European mobile (phone) : cellphone, wireless, cellular phone Mole grips : lock jaw pliers, vice grips Paxolin : Lucite ? Perspex : Plexiglas pilewound (as in a coil) : scatterwound plug in power supply : wall wart, ac adapter plugs and sockets (male and female designated by forms of outer housing ) : plugs and sockets (male and female designated by forms inner electrical connections ) power point : electric socket phono connectors : RCA connectors (archaic) QM connectors : ? reaction : regeneration rubber (hard formulation) : Ebonite spanner : wrench scope (oscilloscope) : o'scope, oscope screening : shielding socket : jack (except for mains wall outlets) Stanley knife : box cutter , utility knife Stilsons : pipewrench thou (thousandth of an inch ): mil (measurement) trillion (before 1974 ? ) : million million million valve : tube Vero board ,copper strip matrix board : Vector board video : vcr (machine) white goods : appliances wireless : radio -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 326097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:38:23 -0600 Bill wrote: > The other Randy, the capitalized one, and I were discussing this on abpr > just a couple of weeks ago and he explained how these links work in > regard to capturing your search. > At one time Google discouraged these 'links to other links' pages and > even had a mechanism to report them. Now it seems that some of these > pages are not short on Google ads. > > Methinks Google needs to take a serious look at the problem and try to > resolve it. You're not alone in being annoyed. Not going to happen. ebay is one of Google's largest advertisers - and with Google "thinking" about getting into the auction business - they're not about to "rock the boat" any worse than possible with ebay. Also - many of these "search -> search" sites are "click-throughs" that get paid by advertisers on their site for each "click-through" that they generate- considering a constant stream of income for next to zero time and money invested - these "click-thoughs" are going to become as numerous as fleas on a stray dog... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437B56EF.EB91EF6B@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: OT: Two New Grandkids on the Way References: <1132148624.489392.239380@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:57:35 -0500 Congratulations Peter! Sal Brisindi Article: 326099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator References: Message-ID: <3PIef.1327$cd1.969@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:09:46 -0600 N Cook wrote: > latest version will be on in week or so > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm > > Allen Key : hex key , hex wrench, Allen wrench [rest of list snipped for brevity] What no "American" for the British "stuffed" as in "He (re)stuffed those capacitors"? ;-) -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:12:43 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator References: Message-ID: N Cook wrote: > latest version will be on in week or so > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm > > Paxolin : Lucite ? As per the previous answer..Make that phenolic? > Perspex : Plexiglas And make that Plexiglas or Lucite.. _BM Article: 326101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:36:48 -0000 Message-ID: References: <3PIef.1327$cd1.969@bignews5.bellsouth.net> "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:3PIef.1327$cd1.969@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > N Cook wrote: > > > latest version will be on in week or so > > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm > > > > Allen Key : hex key , hex wrench, Allen wrench > > [rest of list snipped for brevity] > > What no "American" for the British "stuffed" > > as in "He (re)stuffed those capacitors"? > > ;-) > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com The English for that is also US or U/S apparently from REME squaddie-speak for unserviceable also origin of SNAFU - situation normal , all f***ed up Article: 326102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:26:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: >> seems every time i search for anything these days i run into these 'blind >> links'. url's that look legit, but take you to ebay searching for your >> search. how annoying.... >> >> is it just me or have others noticed this too? >> >> randy > The other Randy, the capitalized one, and I were discussing this on abpr > just a couple of weeks ago and he explained how these links work in regard > to capturing your search. > At one time Google discouraged these 'links to other links' pages and even > had a mechanism to report them. Now it seems that some of these pages are > not short on Google ads. > > Methinks Google needs to take a serious look at the problem and try to > resolve it. You're not alone in being annoyed. its not just google. try any search engine. yahoo, excite, altavista (which is my personal favorite search engine), etc.... if you want a good search that seems to just suck them in like a vaccum, use the term QT50. i own a '80 yamahopper (denoted the QT50 in numerical terms) and look for info on it sometimes. i swear 2/3 of the hits send you straight to ebay. i think the search engines are being fooled just as much as you and i.... randy Article: 326103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator References: <8xJdf.1103$c27.580@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1132165250.550356.140580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0OLef.1270$i7.502@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:33:27 -0600 toxcrusadr wrote: >>LOPT , Line Output Transformer (pronounced Lop-tee) : IHVT (Flyback Transformer) <- never heard of IVHT > > > Off on a tangent here, but could someone explain in 25 words or less > what this thing does? Where does it go in a TV and what exactly is > flying around (or should I say back) inside it? I've always wondered. > The only flying back I can think of is the raster going back to the > beginning of the screen for the next scan. As you can see I don't know > squat about TVs but I'd like to. Simple version: In the earliest TVs the CRT used electrostatic deflection - much like most o'scopes do to this day. However - early on - as screens got much larger - the ability of the (relatively) weak static charge to deflect enough to cover larger and larger angels became a problem. Also - as the size of the CRTs increased - the high voltage to adequately "light" the phosphor was increasing quite a bit as well. Line to high voltage transformers were getting ridiculously large and heavy - and a solution needed to be found to both problems. Enter the Flyback transformer and Yoke. The Yoke generates a much stronger deflection field without huge voltages - though certainly requiring much more current- but certainly within the capability of the tube technology of the time- at least for the vertical windings. The horizontal winding - though presented a problem - because of the much higher frequency - it's impedance is much different - harder for a tube to drive efficiently. Enter the "Flyback" transformer. They are designed different that a "traditional" power transformer - in that they are more like the tank circuit of a transmitter as they are designed to operated from a pulse - rather than a sine wave or such. Rather than being a tank in the inductive & capacitive sense; they are rather designed so the magnetic circuit (core) retains much more energy during a cycle than a core in a traditional line operated transformer. Operating at the horizontal sweep rate- and operated basically like class C circuit (think of a fly wheel getting a "kick" from a steam piston once every revolution)- a flyback can generate very high voltages without the core weight of a 60 cycle transformer. Additional benefits are a better matched drive point for the horizontal winding of the yoke - and eventually several other "taps" of the windings to get other voltages a set might need - such as Boosted B+ for the vertical (or even sound circuits in some hybrids). Whether the name had to do with driving the horizontal part of the yoke - or had more to do with the fact it is the retrace (flyback) pulse that drives it - I don't know - though IMHO - it's probably the latter. You'll see a lot of more recent circuits where the it's called HOT - Horizontal Output Transformer - though in reality - the only thing they have to do with the horizontal circuit is that they operate at the horizontal rate - they have little to nothing to do with sweep. They could just as easily be operated at 100khz and be even smaller... Modern computer monitors usually have separate high voltage generation and sweep circuits - so the scan rate can be varied to give various resolutions without bothering the HV. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Two more shellac questions References: <1132171718.098692.86880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:21:49 GMT AuroraOldRadios wrote: > I tried the same Bullseye spray shellac and kept getting nasty "orange > peel", i.e., uneven finish. I'm now sanding off the shellac from my > Simplex tombstone because of the "orange peel". Lacquer sanding sealer > sprays on evenly and smooth. > Orange peel is caused by spraying too close/putting on too much material. Also, sanding to remove it sounds like a lot of work. I would suggest using denatured alcohol and steel wool. The shellac will come off a lot more quickly and with a lot less work... Article: 326105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437BA180.1D69D2E3@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:15:14 GMT "Haggis > > On 15-Nov-2005, "xrongor" wrote: > > > seems every time i search for anything these days i run into these 'blind > > links'. url's that look legit, but take you to ebay searching for your > > search. how annoying.... > > > > is it just me or have others noticed this too? > > It's been going on for quite a while and yes, it is annoying. What is also > becoming a problem are the several emails I've received lately, coming > through the Ebay "ask seller a question" link, asking "why I haven't paid > for the (enter you least favorite item here)?" or, "do you still want item # > .........?". I forward them to Ebay, for all the good it does. Most of > them seem to come from ESL types as the wording is reminiscent of early > Japanese instruction manuals. > > Haggis. I get those E-mails too, but I don't have an E-bay account. I've also received thousands of "Your account has been suspended E-mails, and "Update your Paypal information, and I don't have an account there, either. For a while I was playing with them, with fake names and passwords but I just forward them to: spoof@ebay.com or spoof@paypal.com -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Two more shellac questions Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:04:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132171718.098692.86880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Carter-K8VT" wrote in message news:xxMef.655$Y%5.324@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... > AuroraOldRadios wrote: >> I tried the same Bullseye spray shellac and kept getting nasty "orange >> peel", i.e., uneven finish. I'm now sanding off the shellac from my >> Simplex tombstone because of the "orange peel". Lacquer sanding sealer >> sprays on evenly and smooth. >> > > Orange peel is caused by spraying too close/putting on too much material. too much humidity can also cause it... randy Article: 326107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Spokesman" References: Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Message-ID: <8yOef.813$Nd.301230@newshog.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:39:00 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:c1379$437734ab$4232bd55$28048@COQUI.NET... > N Cook wrote: > > > This is my start - please reply adding others or any possible errors. > > The list with any additions is/will be on > > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm > > where there is mention of an active email address to contact me > > > > UK term : USA term > > > > > banana plugs : ? > > Bulgin connectors : ? > > This is kind of tricky. In the US we don't really have an equivalent to > the Bulgin connector at least not by name anyway. > > Banana plugs seems to be the rough US equivalent to your Wander plugs. > Not exactly the same, though. The smaller ones we simply call pins and > pin jacks...mostly found on old VOMs or as headphone connectors on > 1920's sets. > > Reaction = regeneration > screening = shielding > anti-clockwise = counter-clockwise > high tension (HT) = high voltage (hv) > pilewound (as in a coil) = scatterwound > > I still don't know exactly about perspex/paxolin etc = they have > equivalents in the US but not sure which is which. Lucite, Plexiglas Plexiglas is made from acrylic. It is the trademark of the Rohm&Haas company. > > -Bill Article: 326108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Rider Chanalyst 162 C Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:49:57 -0600 Just posted pics on alt.binaries.pictures.radio for those that wanted to see. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:13:16 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator References: <8yOef.813$Nd.301230@newshog.newsread.com> Message-ID: Spokesman wrote: > Plexiglas is made from acrylic. It is the trademark of the Rohm&Haas > company. And Lucite is the trademark of DuPont and Perspex is the trademark of ICI. They, as well as acrylic, are considered all to be of the polyacrylate family. -Bill Article: 326110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:15:07 -0500 Message-ID: <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> References: <11nl780jeosv5cf@corp.supernews.com> <1YWdnRmNKoLDK-benZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > > >>started at $750- and went for $788-, we'd all know that, period, is what >>a Walton is currently worth. > > > actually, Jon, that would be what that radio is worth THAT week, THAT day, > due to the lookers on hand. Perhaps you have a different definition of "currently"? In my dictionary "currently" indeed means THAT week and THAT day. Once the Walton bubble bursts, it's all downhill. eddie's point would be well taken if they weren't OBSCENELY overvalued in the recent past. John H. Article: 326111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst 162 C References: Message-ID: <%6Pef.985$q93.489556@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:18:19 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > Here is my new Rider Chanalyst 162 C before restoration. Nice Chanalyst Brian. I sold mine at the CC-AWA Fall Swap Meet, along with 2 early set analyzers and a GR VTVM. I'm going to concentrate on Clough-Brengle stuff only. I have a few other pieces of GR gear I might part with too, plus some GR catalogs I bought in the Auction at Charlotte. Be sure to post some updates on the 162C. 73, Ron Article: 326112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> In "xrongor" writes: >if you want a good search that seems to just suck them in like a vaccum, use >the term QT50. i own a '80 yamahopper (denoted the QT50 in numerical terms) >and look for info on it sometimes. i swear 2/3 of the hits send you >straight to ebay. Append -ebay to your search string. Won't get rid of everything, but it helps. It will also, unfortunately, weed out any discussion page where someone says "I bought a new set of plugs on eBay", for instance. It's still probably a worthwhile tradeoff. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> <481e5$437b4fe8$4232bd6e$29875@COQUI.NET> In <481e5$437b4fe8$4232bd6e$29875@COQUI.NET> Bill writes: >The ones that are the most annoying are simply third party click-thru >sites that make a penny everytime they get a hit on their page full of >ads and links. Not just to ebay...they seem to be remoras to lots of >big sites, probably unbeknownst to the original site owners - who >certainly wouldn't complain about the free publicity. I wonder how long this scam is going to last. Sooner or later the folks paying all those pennies are going to wake up and realize they're better off simply paying the originating search page. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1132108596.954739.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132180645.187790.238210@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:05:28 -0500 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1132180645.187790.238210@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > i doubt that the "frenzy" will reverse quickly, if it ever does. Too > many people have paid alot of money for these sets. If a trend > downward did start, it would be slow, just like they went up. everybody > doesn't NEED to sell their walton. most of these radios are bought > with disposable money, so i doubt if most are worried about the current > market value of their walton. you guys need to realize that the value > of a radio is only determined by what people are willing to pay for it. > if more people like a particular model, it will bring more on the open > market. regardless of it's design, cabinet, number of tubes, > manufacturer or anyhing else. supply and demand. i doubt people are > suddenly going to stop liking zenith radios from the golden era. in > fact, i would just about bet that they will increase in value over the > next 20 years. mark where do you get the info that manufacturers > didn't start using gloss lacquer until 1934? first i have heard of it. > It isn't going to make much difference in 30 years if I go with 2,000 bucks in my pocket, or a Walton sitting on the shelf. Personally, I like the looks of the radios more than I have a need to fondle money. Radios, like money, are only possessions and you can't take'm with you. Pete Article: 326115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11nl8es8k2c8n85@corp.supernews.com> In Randy or Sherry Guttery writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> Does that also work for one's age? Not like anybody here >> would be surprised to find out I'm 4-1/2. >I think most of us had already figured that out ;>) ! >-- >randy guttery :) Hey! It keeps me young! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:37:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dlgh58$n9t$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "xrongor" > writes: > >>if you want a good search that seems to just suck them in like a vaccum, >>use >>the term QT50. i own a '80 yamahopper (denoted the QT50 in numerical >>terms) >>and look for info on it sometimes. i swear 2/3 of the hits send you >>straight to ebay. > > Append -ebay to your search string. Won't get rid of everything, > but it helps. It will also, unfortunately, weed out any discussion > page where someone says "I bought a new set of plugs on eBay", for > instance. It's still probably a worthwhile tradeoff. ive tried a few different tricks with the search, but these new ones seem to slip through. if you use the -ebay as you mention you usually miss some useful ones and dont eliminate the new and improved false ebay links... i am starting to recognize some of the domain names though... randy Article: 326117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jhill" Subject: Re: Wurlitzer Orbit III - Out Of Tune...Help! Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:41:53 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1132004173.026515.303980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132019520.364740.169810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1132147719.175314.182120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Larry -- I have a Lowery-made Story and Clark organ at the church that uses those 4 and 6 legged divider chips. One of the 6 legged ones is bad. What replaces them? All the ones in the circuit board have Lowery part #'s on them. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns971066148F19Anoone@63.223.7.253... > jonathandowns@gmail.com wrote in > news:1132147719.175314.182120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > >> you're the man! you're efforts are very, very appreciated. i am >> recording this organ this weekend, and i was going to have to pitch >> shift the organ if i couldn't figure it out...and i didn't want to have >> to do that. email me (jonathandowns AT gmail.com) if you'd like to hear >> the track. >> >> thanks again, >> jon. >> >> > > Glad to help, Jon. I've been in the organ repair biz since 1986. I have > about a thousand customers....who, recently, haven't had near enough > trouble with their instruments to make a decent living...(c; > > What I need is a week of intense thunderstorms to blow a few power > supplies > and Leslie speakers. That just hasn't happened this summer in SC. It > usually keeps me hopping. > > There's still a few Lowreys and Kimballs around all corroded up, as usual. > Your Wurlitzer may have some intermittent keywires. Quick and dirty > cleaning is really easy. Press the key down and put your finger on the > plastic plunger under the keybed. Wiggle it back and forth, scraping the > wires against the collector bars until it stops crackling. Polishes 'em > right up. > > You can also adjust that Wurlitzer's key switches so the keys play at the > same level as you press them down. This also corrects for some dead stops > on a key because the wires bend over time. At the back of the key is a > little adjustment screw, on top of the key behind where you'd put your > fingers to play it. This screw moves the rubber cup under the key the > plastic switch actuator sit in, up and down, adjusting the level the > actuator operates over. Adjust all of them, one note at a time, so they > start to play the notes about 1/8" from the up position. All the wires > should play all the notes by the time it goes down 1/4" or so. If one of > the switch wires is way off, bend the dead end of that wire CAREFULLY to > align it with the others. Superglue works on the plastic actuator rod if > you find one cracked, not an unusual occurance at all. The rods being a > little crooked is just normal. If they work, don't try to get them > vertical as you add to the stress and may break them. > > Soldering divider ICs under the keybed is lots of fun in that WIRING MAZE > on top of them. Be careful you don't bump the soldering iron against any > wires as you unsolder and resolder the little ICs. Luckily, they are all > TTL and not static sensitive like old CMOS. THE TOP OCTAVE SYNTHESIZER IS > STATIC SENSITIVE LIKE AN OLD CLOCK IC. IT'LL BLOW IF YOU BREATHE ON > IT...and it's best left in its socket unless you just have to remove it. > They come wrapped in tin foil to protect them. All the ICs in the Orbit > are static sensitive. They're awful. > > That'll give you something to chew on while you're playing around in > there. > The construction of these Wurlitzers showed how cheap the company had > become. I work 'em but I hate 'em. > > -- > Larry > > Gotta go....A Kimball monstrosity awaits me...(c; Article: 326118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11nl780jeosv5cf@corp.supernews.com> <1YWdnRmNKoLDK-benZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> In <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar writes: >if they weren't OBSCENELY overvalued in the recent past. I've never understood this. It is what it is. You could say diamonds are obscenely overvalued compared to a piece of glass. But some people like 'em, and they pay the price. I think Nocturne's are the cat's meow. I can't afford one, so some other radio will have to do. It's not worth sweating it. It ain't a kidney. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11202-437A9FC9-1006@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <-pGdnbu3EKMN6ObeRVn-uQ@comcast.com> Message-ID: <_cRef.550958$_o.221993@attbi_s71> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:41:14 GMT In article <-pGdnbu3EKMN6ObeRVn-uQ@comcast.com>, moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >Hi John, >a note and a question... >that 301 was not gloss when new, it was before that sheen became popular >around 1934. It should have the "low sheen" look, like varnish. > >Second, are those 50 subs 6L6's running triode connected? Or what? I >have always thought the (now cheap) TV horz outputs would serve well. Your >comments and report? > >Mark Oppat Hi Mark and Group.. well there is maybe a little shine on the finish but not as much as what the camera flash did to it. It is a Satin Finish Lacquer.. probably a bit more shine than the original.. but give it another 40 years and it will probably be as dull as an original.. toobes they are 6N3C That is a Ruskie version of a heavy duty 6L6 tube. That tube would actually take the 7.5 volt filament... however there is a 1.2 ohm 5 watt resistor inside the adapters... so Plate and Screen go to Plate on the 4 pin. Grid to Grid. Cathode goes to one side of the filament... Think I bought 50 of those toobes a year or so ago.. they also hold up well in audio amps... and they are cheap! John k9uwa Article: 326120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:58:09 -0600 xrongor wrote: > ive tried a few different tricks with the search, but these new ones seem to > slip through. if you use the -ebay as you mention you usually miss some > useful ones and dont eliminate the new and improved false ebay links... I don't know the syntax for Google - but QT50 on alta vista returns 32,000+ results (including many that wind up being ebay). On the other hand- qt50 -link:ebay.com Narrows it down to 9000+ results - and though I tried several - none I tried were ebay. Not saying it's 100% (what is on the net?) but it sure helps... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Heathkit IT-17 tester question References: Message-ID: <5tRef.69336$ty1.14944@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:00:47 -0500 Alan Douglas wrote: > Hi, > > >>BTW anybody know why these tube testers came with a 1625/59 style >>7 pin socket instead of the 6A7 style? > > > The socket holes are elongated to accept both bases. > > Alan Hmmm, well I'll have to find a 6a7 and try it. But....it that's the case, I'll probably NEVER find a replacement socket if it ever goes bad. Especially with the lamp test socket in the middle! Article: 326122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Olympic tube portable radio References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net> <4377C17E.8B462E9@optonline.net> <6d417$437aa5b1$4232bd23$15638@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:06:25 -0500 Brenda Ann wrote: > "Bill" wrote in message > news:6d417$437aa5b1$4232bd23$15638@COQUI.NET... > >>Ken Scharf wrote: >> >> >> >>>> >>>anybody have the schematic for this one? >> >>1957 Beitmans. They have a chassis layout and it shows transistor >>sockets. I guess they had a bunch of tube chassis they needed to use up. >> > > > Page 89 for the tube model, 90 for the transistor. Interesting to note the > design changes between the two. > > You can see that while the chassis was the same, they did use different if transformers, loop antennas, and oscillator coils. I guess the diode detector was mounted under the chassis. I wonder why they put the transistors on top if the sockets were only used as tie points? Article: 326123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 02:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> In Randy or Sherry Guttery writes: >I don't know the syntax for Google - but QT50 on alta vista returns >32,000+ results (including many that wind up being ebay). On the other >hand- >qt50 -link:ebay.com >Narrows it down to 9000+ results - and though I tried several - none I >tried were ebay. Not saying it's 100% (what is on the net?) but it sure >helps... That's what I was trying to do with Google. For the life of me I can't figure out how to negate a selector: "-" doesn't work, "--" doesn't work, "!" doesn't work. I had always just assumed you could do this. I tend to prefer google, but that's a major plus for Alta Vista. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Rick Dasher Subject: Schematics and alignment data for Zenith 11S474 + 6X5 question Message-ID: <81qnn1945v2b4tv9q8khfna57vkbgdrjqe@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:22:17 -0500 Does anybody have the schematics and alignment data for a Zenith 11S474? Also, where does the fuse (and what amp value) for the 6X5 tube problem go? Thanks. Rick Dasher Zenith G500 TO Zenith 11S474 Philco 38-3 Philco 41-280 RCA 111K Article: 326125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1132171718.098692.86880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Two more shellac questions Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 02:37:07 GMT Use the French Polish technique! On each newer coat make sure that you keep adding a little more alcohol, this way you get a mirror finish. You can always use shellac as a sealer too, and place all your coats of lacquer afterwards. If you have orange peel, just go over the area with a rag wetted with alcohol and be VERY quick over the area in question. Omer "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:DtSdndVi3cAQdebeRVn-jA@giganews.com... > For the record, I was not talking about an uneven finish, but an orange > color. The spray can of "clear" Bullseye went on nice and smooth, nice and > orange. If I ever invest in spraying equipment (maybe after expanding my > garage :-), I guess I can try buying flakes and mixing my own, etc. > > Meanwhile, I think I'll just apply toning lacquer & some clear lacquer to > this piece. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 326126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:35:06 -0700 Message-ID: <15197-437BEC5A-10@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <_cRef.550958$_o.221993@attbi_s71> Eddie that is tempting . I thought by now you would have found a 130 . I seldome go looking on ebay these days because webtv chokes on it .. takes 2 or 3 minutes to view one auction . If your willing to trade your Walton for a 130 i will start looking harder for another 130 . Article: 326127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? and your little Catalin, too Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:08:45 -0500 Message-ID: <11nnt21gebgck1c@news.supernews.com> References: <11nl780jeosv5cf@corp.supernews.com> <1YWdnRmNKoLDK-benZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com... >Once the Walton bubble bursts, it's all downhill. eddie's point would be >well taken if they weren't OBSCENELY overvalued in the recent past. > > John H. Exactly what will happen to the all those nasty little Catalin radios' pricing. But in the meanwhile, folks that own them s-u-r-e seem to be enjoying them... Not me, though, I outfoxed them all: I didn't buy one. And no, I am NOT in denial. -- "I just bought a cured ham. I wonder what it had?" Regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 326128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:17:53 -0600 Tim Mullen wrote: > That's what I was trying to do with Google. For the life of me > I can't figure out how to negate a selector: "-" doesn't work, "--" > doesn't work, "!" doesn't work. I had always just assumed you could > do this. > > I tend to prefer google, but that's a major plus for Alta Vista. That's what I was talking about the other day - while Google is very popular, and does a good job for most things - there are a few (like this) that I couldn't figure out how to do (this well) with Google. I'm sure *someone* will enlighten me though... ;-) best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: and... they have the chassis too! References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:23:17 -0600 Mark Oppat wrote: > as emily litllla from saturday night live used to say... > "never mind"! Roseanne Roseannadanna perhaps? -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:25:18 -0500 Message-ID: <11nnu19c4tqn5a6@news.supernews.com> References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:fJHef.550157$_o.205799@attbi_s71... > In article <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net > says... >> >> >>Methinks Google needs to take a serious look at the problem and try to >>resolve it. You're not alone in being annoyed. >> >>-Bill > > I thought perhaps that ebay was spending advertisement dollars to google > to make it happen?... > > and yup it is annoying as hell!.. if I want to search ebay I do know how! > > John k9uwa I see this a lot, too. It's often trying to sell the website name. As for the eBay links, have you tried just adding -ebay to your search? Should eliminate them. -- "Meow" ...splat... "Aarf" ...splat... (raining cats and dogs) Regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 326131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:26:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <3ee91$437bf861$4232bdfa$20147@COQUI.NET> Tim Mullen wrote: > That's what I was trying to do with Google. For the life of me > I can't figure out how to negate a selector: "-" doesn't work, "--" > doesn't work, "!" doesn't work. I had always just assumed you could > do this. > > I tend to prefer google, but that's a major plus for Alta Vista. Sure, it works on Google. ~21,200 for QT50, ~19,500 for QT50 -ebay...QT50 ebay...1270 hits. You can always use the Advanced Seach option if you don't want to screw around with the selector format. -Bill Article: 326132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: rjbq Subject: RCA 8-X-541 Loop Antenna Clips Needed Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:32:39 -0800 Message-ID: <11nnu2sk7ffjlb8@corp.supernews.com> I have completed the restoration of an RCA 8-X-541 but only have two of the four necessary clips to hold the loop antenna backboard onto the radio case. Naturally, I could cobble together some sort of substitute system but the clips would be nicer. Does anyone have two of them they would be willing to part with? If necesary, I could post a photo of the clips on the binaries site. Thanks in advance, Richard Sedro-Woolley WA Article: 326133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:31:34 -0600 Message-ID: <437bf6fc$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dlgp2a$sa8$1@reader2.panix.com... > That's what I was trying to do with Google. For the life of me > I can't figure out how to negate a selector: "-" doesn't work, "--" > doesn't work, "!" doesn't work. I had always just assumed you could > do this. The syntax is qt50 -ebay Or you can do an advanced search and enter ebay in the field "without the words" But of course Google will find more links than Altavista, so you'll get a higher number. paul paul Article: 326134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Two more shellac questions Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:41:25 -0500 Message-ID: <11nnuv8rdqrigff@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132171718.098692.86880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: I guess I can try buying flakes and mixing my own, etc. > > Otherwise I wouldn't bother with shellac, as I've posted over and over. In fact, that's exactly the primary subject which I started the first thread about- DEWAXED, FRESH MIXED SHELLAC. Bullseye has a product Sealcoat now that IS dewaxed and MIGHT work if only a year or so old. The 3 year crap is what ruined shellac's reputation. They make packaged sandwiches that can be eaten after several months, but do you WANT to? Zinnser makes orange spray shellac too and clearly your can Phil was a mislabel. I've used the clear many times in the spray and it's just a vague amber. http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Shellac_as_a_Sealer_under_Lacquer.html > Shellac as a Sealer under Lacquer > > Question > I am looking to use shellac as a sealer under nitrocellulose lacquer. I imagine the fish-eye problem could be reduced, but is this a good idea? Would shellac as a sealer compromise the integrity of the lacquer on top? If that is ok, what cut of shellac is recommended? Also, what is the drying time for shellac, and are there any known pitfalls? Any help is appreciated. > > Forum Responses > (Finishing Forum) > From contributor R: > What type of projects do you plan on finishing with shellac as a base coat? > > From Paul Snyder, forum technical advisor: > The question that comes to my mind is why do you plan to use shellac as a sealer? > > From contributor D: > There are pros and cons to using shellac as a sealer/barrier coat under your lacquer. There are many pros. It increases depth and forms a barrier coat to seal in possible contaminants, promotes adhesion of the topcoat to the substrate, and etc. > > The cons are that you must either mix your own, or buy a new can of Zinsser's Sealcoat. Always look for the date on the can so that you know you are buying fresh Sealcoat (under a year despite the claims of a three year shelf life). Always test the shellac by dripping some onto a piece of glass and seeing how long it takes for that drip to dry. The deader the shellac the longer it takes to dry. > > I think that it is a good move. The dry time for your Sealcoat is about 20 to 30 minutes, unless you don’t mind your sandpaper corning and clogging. I think that you touched on the most important feature of a shellac sealer, and that is its ability to act as a barrier coat for subsequent topcoats. I mentioned Sealcoat because this is a great product. I like that it is premixed and I also like the thin nature of the one pound cut. > > I sum it all up as good insurance. The only real downside I see is that it takes a little longer for the stuff to dry compared to regular lacquer. And if you can dedicate a gun just for your shellac, then you can greatly minimize some downtime for changing and cleaning your gun as you switch out materials to be sprayed. http://www.popularwoodworking.com/features/fea.asp?id=1206 > Until the 1920s, when lacquer was introduced, shellac was the primary finish used in furniture factories and small woodworking shops. It continued to be the favored finish of professionals finishing interior wood trim and floors, and of hobbyists finishing everything, including furniture, until the 1950s and 60s. > > Then polyurethane and “wiping” varnish (varnish thinned about half with paint thinner and often mislabeled “tung oil”) were introduced and widely promoted. Beginning in the 1970s, blends of linseed oil and varnish, like Watco Danish Oil, were promoted in magazines for their ease of use. > > Instead of defending shellac during this period, suppliers retreated to the position that shellac was a good sealer for stains and knots. They also allowed shellac to get an exaggerated reputation for weak water resistance, and they increased its stated “shelf life” from one year to three years. (Shellac slowly deteriorates after it’s dissolved in alcohol. After about a year it no longer hardens well enough or is water-resistant enough to be used as a complete finish on most furniture and cabinet surfaces. Always use shellac within a year of when it was dissolved.) John H. Article: 326135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Two more shellac questions Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: <11nnvbmejfto38f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132171718.098692.86880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11nnuv8rdqrigff@corp.supernews.com> OOps. Well, there's a difference of opinion here- > From Paul Snyder, forum technical advisor: > To the original questioner: Avoiding contamination (fish-eye) is a good reason to start with a shellac sealer. With nitrocellulose lacquer, it doesn't matter if the shellac is de-waxed or not. Zinser does make a product called Seal Coat that is a de-waxed shellac mixed to a 2# cut ready for use as a sealer. Don't over-do the shellac when you're top coating with lacquer; you want to keep the shellac thin. One good coat is all you need. Too thick and it can lead to pre-mature cracking/crazing down the road. John H. Article: 326136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <81qnn1945v2b4tv9q8khfna57vkbgdrjqe@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Schematics and alignment data for Zenith 11S474 + 6X5 question Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:51:03 -0600 Message-ID: <437bfb8e$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> Alignment data here (sorry for bad pic, this computer only has Paint so I was stuck with 72dpi) http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/11s474.jpg Fusing? 1A in the transformer primary, 250mA between each transformer HV secondary lead and the plate pins of the 6X5 it goes to (in each tube pins 3 and 5 should be jumpered together). Or any of a hundred other ways to protect the transformer, check the Google Groups archives of this group for suggestions. hope that helps regards, paul "Rick Dasher" wrote in message news:81qnn1945v2b4tv9q8khfna57vkbgdrjqe@4ax.com... > Does anybody have the schematics and alignment data for a Zenith > 11S474? Also, where does the fuse (and what amp value) for the 6X5 > tube problem go? > Thanks. > Rick Dasher > Zenith G500 TO > Zenith 11S474 > Philco 38-3 > Philco 41-280 > RCA 111K Article: 326137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> <437bf6fc$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> In <437bf6fc$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: >"Tim Mullen" wrote in message >news:dlgp2a$sa8$1@reader2.panix.com... >> That's what I was trying to do with Google. For the life of me >> I can't figure out how to negate a selector: "-" doesn't work, "--" >> doesn't work, "!" doesn't work. I had always just assumed you could >> do this. >The syntax is >qt50 -ebay But that will elimanate any page with the word "ebay" in a sentence. I only want to eliminate pages where "ebay" occurs in an anchor. "-inanchor:ebay" doesn't work like I expected. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:30:54 -0800 Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4419385241 -Scott Article: 326139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Two more shellac questions Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:42:35 -0700 Message-ID: <15195-437C0A3B-149@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1132171718.098692.86880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> I used to use Bullseye spray shellac and never noticed any orange . I have a Zenith tombstone i sprayed with that schellac as a finish probably 10 years ago and its not orange but it looks like crap :-) ( i`ll fix it later ) Best advice is dont use any shellac . Article: 326140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:11:51 -0700 Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> <437bf6fc$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> >>The syntax is > >>qt50 -ebay > > But that will elimanate any page with the word "ebay" in a > sentence. I only want to eliminate pages where "ebay" occurs > in an anchor. exactly... randy Article: 326141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Two more shellac questions Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:13:08 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132171718.098692.86880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> ah ok. i thought you meant 'orange peel' texture. randy "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:DtSdndVi3cAQdebeRVn-jA@giganews.com... > For the record, I was not talking about an uneven finish, but an orange > color. The spray can of "clear" Bullseye went on nice and smooth, nice and > orange. If I ever invest in spraying equipment (maybe after expanding my > garage :-), I guess I can try buying flakes and mixing my own, etc. > > Meanwhile, I think I'll just apply toning lacquer & some clear lacquer to > this piece. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 326142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:15:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:GqRef.33108$td.27154@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > xrongor wrote: > >> ive tried a few different tricks with the search, but these new ones seem >> to slip through. if you use the -ebay as you mention you usually miss >> some useful ones and dont eliminate the new and improved false ebay >> links... > > I don't know the syntax for Google - but QT50 on alta vista returns > 32,000+ results (including many that wind up being ebay). On the other > hand- > > qt50 -link:ebay.com > > Narrows it down to 9000+ results - and though I tried several - none I > tried were ebay. Not saying it's 100% (what is on the net?) but it sure > helps... learn somethin new every day! didnt know about that link command. maybe i should read the help file every 5 years or so... see. i knew there was a reason i like altavista thx! randy Article: 326143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New References: Message-ID: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:17:52 GMT Scott W. Harvey wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4419385241 Randy, would this one come with YOU as the field service technician? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Ping: Wayne Gilbert Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:40:17 +0900 Message-ID: AOHell apparently has e-mail from me blocked for unknown reasons. A disc is on it's way to you. Article: 326145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> <437bf6fc$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:45:08 -0600 Tim Mullen wrote: > But that will elimanate any page with the word "ebay" in a > sentence. I only want to eliminate pages where "ebay" occurs > in an anchor. "-inanchor:ebay" doesn't work like I expected. That's why I quit trying to explain it to them - they don't pay attention to what *you* say - only what *they* want to say... whether it is appropriate (or to the point) or not. Then Paul Dietenberger wrote: > But of course Google will find more links than Altavista, > so you'll get a higher number. Really? I just tried QT50 on Alta Vista and it returns 34,200 results - while QT50 on Google returns only 21,100 results. Of course there'll be 50 reasons why that isn't valid, either - after all Google is obviously better. Sheesh. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:25:08 -0600 Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4419385241 > > > Randy, would this one come with YOU as the field service technician? If you're asking me, I don't think so... I was wondering what the problem was- after all a class A station should have Clear Channel's attention (WYYZ's website "implies" in a couple of places they are among class "A" stations) - and if it's as "profitable" as claimed - the opening price would be pocket change for CC... However - a bit of looking finds it's a actually licensed as a class "C" @ 1KW day/night... That explains it. CC knows how to look up licenses too... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Andy Cuffe writes: >I also hate all those hits that take you to sites that start with >"read reviews about X", or "Find great prices on X" with absolutely no >information on X. Those crack me up. "Read reviews about how many ounces are in a pound!" Sure! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:21:02 GMT "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:ZkVef.22065$xK1.16062@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > If you're asking me, I don't think so... > > I was wondering what the problem was- after all a class A station should > have Clear Channel's attention (WYYZ's website "implies" in a couple of > places they are among class "A" stations) - and if it's as "profitable" as > claimed - the opening price would be pocket change for CC... > > However - a bit of looking finds it's a actually licensed as a class "C" @ > 1KW day/night... That explains it. > > CC knows how to look up licenses too... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com I suppose a positive is that it's a non-directional station with no power reduction at sunset. That will be easier to convert to digital. I'm dreading the shift to digital here, as I have a station, WENE, that is NDA day with 1 tower, and DA-1 night with 5 towers. Our work is really going to be cut out for us with WINR, as that has 2 patters and power levels, operating 5kw day with 2 towers and 500 watts at night with 3 towers. Are there any other Clear Channel engineers that read the newsgroup? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 326149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: and... they have the chassis too! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:26:12 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:y62dnUuJu-l_aubeRVn-vw@comcast.com... > oops, here is the link to the chassis.... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-Floor-Model-Tube-Ham-Radio-Chasis_W0QQitemZ6579980790QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > sorry, now back to your regular scheduled trolling.... > > Mark Oppat Well - the chassis and cabinet are accounted for. Where is the transformer and speaker? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 326150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:38:28 GMT "Jon" wrote in message news:yIZef.16083$DL6.9997@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message > news:ZkVef.22065$xK1.16062@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > > If you're asking me, I don't think so... > > >> I suppose a positive is that it's a non-directional station with no power > reduction at sunset. That will be easier to convert to digital. I'm dreading > the shift to digital here, as I have a station, WENE, that is NDA day with 1 > tower, and DA-1 night with 5 towers. Our work is really going to be cut out > for us with WINR, as that has 2 patters and power levels, operating 5kw day > with 2 towers and 500 watts at night with 3 towers. > > Are there any other Clear Channel engineers that read the newsgroup? > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > I have read talk here and there of digitals arrival. What is the timeline for all stations to convert. In other words is there a cut off date when traditional analog radios will become useless unless we broadcast our own signals? Or will both signals be broadcast for the forseeable future? Larry Article: 326151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:07:52 GMT "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:UYZef.363$Zb2.295@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... > I have read talk here and there of digitals arrival. What is the timeline > for all stations to convert. In other words is there a cut off date when > traditional analog radios will become useless unless we broadcast our own > signals? Or will both signals be broadcast for the forseeable future? > > Larry > > I'm not an expert on digital AM, but from the information that's been presented to me, stations will broadcast in hybrid mode for some time. I doubt we'll see a cutoff of analog service until there has been significant penetration of the technology. Once the analog signal is turned off, the digital signal will occupy that portion of the bandwidth, allowing higher audio quality and multiple audio streams, just as with the FM digital services. With multiple channels of audio, we may see more specialized services piggybacked on the main station, such as alternate formats or a refinement of the existing format. For example, an AM nostalgia station may have a doo-wop secondary channel or perhaps an OTR channel if there is demand for it. One thing is for sure - once we lose the analog service, we're going to need converters to use our antique radios - here's where an enterprising person can really corner a market. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 326152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "NOSPAM" Subject: OT: Vendo radio muy antigua, ¿años 20? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:40:07 +0100 Message-ID: RADIO ANTIGÜA Tiene forma de cajón de madera. Es francesa. ¿años 20? Si quieres ver fotos las he puesto en alt.binaries.radio.pictures Si quieres más fotos o de más calidad escríbeme a granpoQUITA_ESTO_PARA_RESPONDER@ya.com Tiene una pequeña chapa metálica que pone: Sté des Éts DUCRETET 75, Rue Claude Bernard PARIS (Ve.) Está claro que es francesa. Por la parte de atrás tiene cuatro salidas/entradas que son: TERRE (tierra) HT PARLEUR (altavoces?) ANTENNE (antena) 110 Volts (corriente) Las válvulas son: Dos válvulas que ponen GDER/ONYX Phillips E 442 4V MiniWatt 200V Una válvula pone DW 1508 MATAL MAZDA 4V-150V Una válvula pone METAL DW. 11 T-3 45 Todas tienen cinco patillas pero hay otra que sólo tiene cuatro, tiene forma de pera y pone: GDER Défense D´EXPORTED DE FRANCE 190 BT DARIO V.80 Las cuatro patillas ponen P,G u dos tienen la letra F. Interesados escribir a granpoQUITA_ESTO_PARA_RESPONDER@ya.com Article: 326153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:03:14 -0500 Message-ID: <11novsjmcg9s798@corp.supernews.com> References: <11nl780jeosv5cf@corp.supernews.com> <1YWdnRmNKoLDK-benZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar writes: > > >>if they weren't OBSCENELY overvalued in the recent past. > > > I've never understood this. It is what it is. By this I mean it could be a Dutch Tulip Craze thing, and prices can just as easily collapse later. Sure, TODAY (really last week) they cost $2-3K, true. John H. Article: 326154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:33:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Vendo radio muy antigua, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BFa=F1os_20=3F?= References: Message-ID: NOSPAM wrote: > RADIO ANTIGÜA > Tiene forma de cajón de madera. Es francesa. ¿años 20? > Si quieres ver fotos las he puesto en alt.binaries.radio.pictures > Si quieres más fotos o de más calidad escríbeme a > granpoQUITA_ESTO_PARA_RESPONDER@ya.com OLD RADIO Has a wooden cabinet. Its French, years 20s? If you want to see photos I have put them in alt.binaries.radio.pictures (ed: Note, not alt.binaries.pictures.radio) If you want to see more photos or of higher quality write me at granpoREMOVETHIS@ya.com > > Tiene una pequeña chapa metálica que pone: It has a small tag that says: > > Sté des Éts DUCRETET > 75, Rue Claude Bernard > PARIS (Ve.) > > Está claro que es francesa. > Por la parte de atrás tiene cuatro salidas/entradas que son: It clearly is French. In the rear there are inputs/outputs - Ground, speaker, antenna, 110 volts. > TERRE (tierra) > HT PARLEUR (altavoces?) > ANTENNE (antena) > 110 Volts (corriente) > > Las válvulas son: > > Dos válvulas que ponen GDER/ONYX Phillips E 442 4V MiniWatt 200V > Una válvula pone DW 1508 MATAL MAZDA 4V-150V > Una válvula pone METAL DW. 11 T-3 45 The tubes are: Two Philips E 442 One DW 1508 One DW 11 > > Todas tienen cinco patillas pero hay otra que sólo tiene cuatro, tiene forma > de pera y pone: All have 5 prongs but there is one that only has 4...pear-shaped and says > > GDER Défense > D´EXPORTED > DE FRANCE > 190 > BT DARIO V.80 > Las cuatro patillas ponen P,G u dos tienen la letra F. The 4 prongs are labelled Plate, Grid and two prongs have the letter F, Filament. Article: 326155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:37:22 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Vendo radio muy antigua, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BFa=F1os_20=3F?= References: Message-ID: Bill wrote: > >> >> Todas tienen cinco patillas pero hay otra que sólo tiene cuatro, tiene >> forma >> de pera y pone: > > > All have 5 prongs but there is one that only has 4...pear-shaped and says > >> >> GDER Défense >> D´EXPORTED >> DE FRANCE >> 190 >> BT DARIO V.80 >> Las cuatro patillas ponen P,G u dos tienen la letra F. > > > The 4 prongs are labelled Plate, Grid and two prongs have the letter F, > Filament. I wasn't clear in translating. It appears that there are four 5-pin tubes plus one more 4-pinner that appears to be an 80 although P-G-F-F wouldn't apply to an 80. Maybe that came from socket lettering? -Bill Article: 326156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst 162 C References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:47:53 -0500 When you get it going, let us know how accurate the tuning scales are. I found it impossible to get good tracking across the dials. I installed a cathode follower, switchable between the RF and OSC, that gives enough signal output to drive my HP counter. Great for checking receiver tracking probs. Also, I find the meter easier to use than the eyes. Ken Brian Hill wrote: > Just posted pics on alt.binaries.pictures.radio for those that wanted to > see. > Article: 326157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:56:41 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > Those crack me up. "Read reviews about how many ounces are in > a pound!" Sure! > That's what Wikipedia is for. And you WILL get several answers. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: DIALS MADE FOR YOUR OLD RADIO. Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:05:29 -0600 Message-ID: <22448-437C8E29-227@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> HERE IS A SOURCE FOR DIALS, THEY LOOK VERY GOOD. http://www.showcarquality.com/ CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 326159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: and... they have the chassis too! References: Message-ID: <8x0ff.8450$cd1.6550@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:35:59 -0600 Phil B wrote: > I can't believe I am posting this Thanks... > but I just have to say that Roseanne > Roseannadanna was definitely the one who said "never mind". I was even beginning to question myself... > I know this > because my wife is a big Roseanne Roseannadanna fan and she always says > "never mind" just like Roseanne did :-) Me too... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: and... they have the chassis too! References: <1132233306.123629.121540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:43:43 -0600 toxcrusadr wrote: > Phil, it is with great sadness that I must rebut. Emily was the one > who always had it wrong and when Jane Curtain would explain "It's equal > rights, Emily, not eagle rights," she would say "Oh! Never mind!" > > Roseanne was a classic too, but it tweren't her what said it. > > "It's always something! If it's not one thing, it's something else. > Either you've got lint in your belly button or a sweat ball hanging off > your nose!" Interesting how many people can remember a shared experience so many different ways... While I found web sites with both versions - the majority support the fact that it was indeed Emily. It's always something... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wurlitzer Orbit III - Out Of Tune...Help! From: Larry References: <1132004173.026515.303980@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132019520.364740.169810@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1132147719.175314.182120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:02:39 -0500 "jhill" wrote in news:dlgjkk$lsk$1@news.tamu.edu: > Larry -- I have a Lowery-made Story and Clark organ at the church that > uses those 4 and 6 legged divider chips. One of the 6 legged ones is > bad. What replaces them? All the ones in the circuit board have > Lowery part #'s on them. > Organ Service Corp has all your Lowrey parts, now that the other company who controlled them has gone belly up out west. Organ Service Corp is great people. Just call the Lowrey numbers in or buy them right online. http://www.organservice.com/lowrey/Lowrey.htm I've been a customer since 1986. Sure wish they all were as easy as OSC to buy from...(snif) Kimball also used these ICs for whole series of organs....They are all interchangeable and have the same pin configuration. -- Larry Article: 326162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:07:24 -0600 Jon wrote: > I suppose a positive is that it's a non-directional station with no power > reduction at sunset. That will be easier to convert to digital. That's true - the one remaining station that I keep getting talked into working on is a "D" (5k daytime .1 night) single tower - the only problem with converting it is the MW5... parts? what parts? we don't need no stinking parts! (as you may know Harris dropped support for it IIRC last May...). > I'm dreading > the shift to digital here, as I have a station, WENE, that is NDA day with 1 > tower, and DA-1 night with 5 towers. Our work is really going to be cut out > for us with WINR, as that has 2 patters and power levels, operating 5kw day > with 2 towers and 500 watts at night with 3 towers. I know several stations that are looking into petitioning to drop their directional arrays when they convert - since (in theory) interference shouldn't be as much a problem once digital - and they'd be willing to trade some power for a hot stick... Minds far better than mine are running the numbers mulling such over. > Are there any other Clear Channel engineers that read the newsgroup? Not that admit it (just kidding). There used to be one from the right coast who seldom posted - but would often drop me a private email commenting about things. I haven't heard from him in about a year though. (There are a lot more lurkers here than many people realize!). Though in this case IIRC he was on a station that "we" were stomping on at night when our timer crapped (we use an astro tracker to switch to night time power - and this one had apparently taken a lightning hit or something - anyway - it wasn't doing "it's thing") so they had "looked us up" to politely request we "fix things" (which we much appreciated rather than them immediately screaming to Charlie). Back to WYYZ - I've heard about CC paying way more for just a license than the asking price of that station- (i.e. no real estate, studio, equipment, transmitter - just the license)--- but those have been "B"s or better (usually 10K or better). A "C" about half way between Hotlanta and Chat town - (but ~30 mi east of Rome) with only 1K - well - that's not exactly a "major market"... Were it located there with some power - that'd be a whole 'nother thing... (all IMHO). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range From: Larry References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:12:26 -0500 "Jon" wrote in news:so_ef.16086$DL6.3858@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > digital AM Guys, will the digital AM and FM receivers be over-the-air addressable like the HDTV receivers so they can sell pay radio over the air like the TV will be? -- Larry Article: 326164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: and... they have the chassis too! Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:03:00 -0800 Message-ID: <15748-437C9BA4-98@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <1132233306.123629.121540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >"It's always something! If it's not one >thing, it's something else. Either you've >got lint in your belly button or a sweat >ball hanging off your nose!" > >Tox Hey. That could be set to the tune of 'Delta Dawn': Del-ta Dawn, what's that hangin' off yer nose? Could it be you got a fungus twixt your toes? oc Article: 326165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:18:26 -0600 Larry Fowkes wrote: > I have read talk here and there of digitals arrival. What is the timeline > for all stations to convert. In other words is there a cut off date when > traditional analog radios will become useless unless we broadcast our own > signals? Or will both signals be broadcast for the forseeable future? That's like any political football - it just depends on who's talking and which way the wind is blowing. There are some "guide lines" out there - but like anything this significant - they can change at the whim of congress (like HDTV - congress just redid much of that). IMHO - as long as there are a significant number of non-digital AM radios in cars- there will be analog stations to serve them - talk radio is just too powerful a force to be shoehorned... The thing I think many people are quietly watching is Sirius, --- if their huge investment pays off - then the general population shows it's willingness to "invest" to "hear"... if not - hence so much interest (whether one likes or loathes him) in Stern's upcoming move... Hmmm... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: Vendo radio muy antigua, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BFa=F1os_20=3F?= References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:34:26 -0600 Bill wrote: > I wasn't clear in translating. It appears that there are four 5-pin > tubes plus one more 4-pinner that appears to be an 80 although P-G-F-F > wouldn't apply to an 80. Maybe that came from socket lettering? You got it way better than I did - then again - I don't get many chances here in Mississippi at keeping my Spanish in any reasonable shape (wasn't that good to begin with - though in high school I could at least keep up with a conversation). Back to the 80 and FPGF --- many 4 pin sockets had that molded in - or otherwise so marked as most 4 pin tubes (that weren't rectifiers) used the same (EIA 4D) basing. The 80 (and others) used EIA 4C basing: FPPF. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:06:41 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: 120VAC, bayonet base light bulbs? References: <1132241545.127204.162230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9d577$437caa93$4232bd14$13449@COQUI.NET> shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: > I've got a few AC radios from the 40's and 50's that all want dial > lamps. > The lamps are all 120VAC, bayonet base (about the same size as a car > turn-signal bulb) > with two bump contacts on the bottom. As far as I can determine > there's no voltage on > the bayonet part and its the two bumps carrying 120VAC. Google with C7, bayonet and you should find them easily. They are typically 6 or 7 watts although I've seen them in 4w as well. Word says you can also find them in sewing machine shops if you have such a thing in your locale. -Bill Article: 326168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Two New Grandkids on the Way From: eccles@idiot.gov (Tom Lager) References: <1132148624.489392.239380@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <971170C26Lagertptdnet@140.99.99.130> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:13:28 GMT pfjw@aol.com (Peter Wieck) wrote in <1132148624.489392.239380 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>: > > Congratulations Peter. You now qualify for the T-shirt with the logo "Grandpa is my name - Spoiling is my game" -- So long and thanks for all the fish. Article: 326169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: 120VAC, bayonet base light bulbs? References: <1132241545.127204.162230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:28:44 -0600 shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: > I've got a few AC radios from the 40's and 50's that all want dial > lamps. > The lamps are all 120VAC, bayonet base (about the same size as a car > turn-signal bulb) > with two bump contacts on the bottom. As far as I can determine > there's no voltage on > the bayonet part and its the two bumps carrying 120VAC. Some sewing machines use these - though the wattage may be "brighter" than you need... (15W) but at least they'll work. Most sewing centers will have them. Sylvania makes a 10W their P/N 10C7/DC 120V (search the net). There are 6W double contact bulbs - but they are somewhat hard to find - JKL components has one in their catalog... they are the only ones I know of that have them. (their P/N S6-120V-DCB) HTH -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Cheap Walton? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11nl780jeosv5cf@corp.supernews.com> <1YWdnRmNKoLDK-benZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> <11novsjmcg9s798@corp.supernews.com> In <11novsjmcg9s798@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> In <11nnfbta89flac8@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar writes: >> >>>if they weren't OBSCENELY overvalued in the recent past. >> >> I've never understood this. It is what it is. >By this I mean it could be a Dutch Tulip Craze thing, and prices can >just as easily collapse later. Sure, TODAY (really last week) they cost >$2-3K, true. There's a difference, though. Tulip bulbs were being bought on futures speculation. Mostly people are buying Waltons because they think they're esthetically or historically desireable. What you're saying certainly does happen, but only at the very beginning of a collectible craze. I think the horse has already run with Waltons. Over the years I've watched breadboards (the more common variant) peak around, say, a grand and a half. ISTM they've dropped in the last few years, but only by a couple of hundred. I don't expect them to get a lot cheaper than that. One area where prices really took a nosedive is toasters. This was a relatively new field of organized collecting when I got interested about ten years ago. One particularly lovely example was going for $1200. At that price pickers start paying attention, and, lo and behold, more of them get dragged out of basements and attics. Eventuallly enough were found to satisfy demand, and the price tumbled. I picked up a pristine example a few years back for $400. I just don't think there's that many more Waltons still to be found. People have been looking for too long. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: What's with all the wires in back? Message-ID: <%q5ff.60$fO5.10@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:08:27 GMT "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:v5ipn11rjld0cg4c7t16gb12voe1rd4gmr@4ax.com... > Thinking about starting renovating a GE HJ624 soon but after taking > it out of the case I see I need some information about it first. > > It has a bunch of wires coming out of the back of the chassis, two of > them shielded and joined together. I don't know if they were > originally formed in a shielded loop, or someone stuck them together > later. > Hi Ed, I picked up that same set in early October at the Flat Rock flea market. It is currently in my storage area but if you like I can go bye there Sat and pull off the back and snap a few pictures to see if mine is the same. I had to make room in the shop to actually get some work done so I leased a 10' x 10' climate controlled storage unit that is a couple miles from home. My girl friend keeps telling me it is time to do some selling if I need outside storage. Non radio people just don't understand. Larry Fowkes Article: 326172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: What's with all the wires in back? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:10:37 -0600 Blacksmith wrote: > Thinking about starting renovating a GE HJ624 soon but after taking > it out of the case I see I need some information about it first. > > It has a bunch of wires coming out of the back of the chassis, two of > them shielded and joined together. I don't know if they were > originally formed in a shielded loop, or someone stuck them together > later. The two shielded wires are the phono hookup - should not be bridged as it is now - the yellow wire is from the detector (i.e audio / agc) run out to a phono with a switch to select phono or radio - then which ever audio back to the top of the volume control (the shielded wire seen running towards the front). You'd have to study the schematic a bit to figure out the other wires... should get you started... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: whats with all the blind ebay links lately? References: <97b6b$437b2865$4232bd6e$17718@COQUI.NET> <11nnu19c4tqn5a6@news.supernews.com> Message-ID: <1u5ff.36555$td.29936@bignews3.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:14:00 -0600 Andy Cuffe wrote: > The trouble is they don't show up as an ebay link. The link is to a > legitimate looking web site that forwards you to an ebay search. that's why -link:ebay.com (or whatever URL) works - it negates hits on pages with LINKS to ebay. There is likely a Google "equivalent" -- I've just never bothered to try to find it. regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: 120VAC, bayonet base light bulbs? References: <1132241545.127204.162230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132253494.940212.224790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132256204.569206.30920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:32:29 -0600 http://www.jkllamps.com/files/DOUBLE%20CONTACT%20S-6.pdf First bulb - 6W You could try the second (rated for 145V) shouldn't be as bright--- you could try the third (rated for 230V) might not be bright enough... perhaps you need to *ask for a couple of sample of each* to see which works satisfactorily... Rocket Science!!!!!!! sheesh. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: DIALS MADE FOR YOUR OLD RADIO. References: <22448-437C8E29-227@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <1132240394.186811.63760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1132242191.010366.199900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132259378.975033.21470@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:25:54 -0500 Can't hurt to have another source. Ken tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > Got a response from Scott, and submitted a scan for his review. Will > update the NG as this progresses. > > Terry. > Article: 326176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What's with all the wires in back? References: Message-ID: <1O6ff.31841$2k5.9654@dukeread09> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:41:05 -0500 I just did one of these sets this summer. Wires coming out of the chassis are for the phono pickup and the phono motor. Looks like someone has modded it over pretty well. The phono works like this: When you lift the rear of the tone arm, it detents and a switch changes the set from radio to phono. When you move the tone atm to the record, another switch turns on the motor. Pretty slick. This setup gives the set a low profile, and there are no switches to mess with. If you have questions, mail me. WKLW at COX dot NET Blacksmith wrote: > Thinking about starting renovating a GE HJ624 soon but after taking > it out of the case I see I need some information about it first. > > It has a bunch of wires coming out of the back of the chassis, two of > them shielded and joined together. I don't know if they were > originally formed in a shielded loop, or someone stuck them together > later. > > Any help would be appreciated as to what each wire is for and what I > should do with the shielding if it should be all one piece. > > http://www.renovatedradios.com/images/misc/GE-a.jpg > http://www.renovatedradios.com/images/misc/GE-b.jpg > http://www.renovatedradios.com/images/misc/GE-c.jpg > http://www.renovatedradios.com/images/misc/GE-d.jpg > http://www.renovatedradios.com/images/misc/GE-e.jpg > > Also, what do you think is the significance if the trimmer bent up > like that? Why would someone do that? > > http://www.renovatedradios.com/images/misc/GE-f.jpg > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 326177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Possible new reproduction Philco escutcheon? From: Ron Ramirez Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:59:40 GMT As you know, Old-Time Replications makes perfect (actually, better than original) reproductions of two styles of Philco escutcheons that were originally made of Tenite. One is for Models 41-250, 41-255, 41-256, 41- 280, 41-285, 41-287, 41-290, 41-610 and 41-611. The other is for Models 42-355 and 42-390. There are many other Philco models which could be nifty looking sets if a solution was available to their shrinking escutcheons. These include the foloowing models: 41-84, 41-85, 41-221C, 41-221CI (ivory), 41-226, 41-841, 41-842, 41-843, 41-844, 41-851 42-842, 42-843, 42-844, 42-853, 42-854, 42-PT94, 42-PT95 (ivory), 47-204 (ivory), 48-206 (ivory). All but the last two suffer from "Incredible Shrinking Escutcheon" syndrome. The last two, however, are made from an improved plastic that does not shrink or warp like the prewar Tenite escutcheons do. I would like to receive your thoughts on the possibility of having reproductions of these escutcheons available. Please follow this link to see pictures of a few sets using this escutcheon, and to leave your feedback: http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=497#497 and participate in the poll by indicating how much you would be willing to pay for a reproduction if they were available. (The poll will be active for 21 days.) You do have to register to use the Philco Phorum. If you do not wish to register, you may post your feedback here, or by sending me an e-mail (replace philno.spam with philcoradio dot com to send me mail). I will forward the results to Larry in a few weeks. No promises. But if there is a great enough demand for this part, in brown, ivory, or both, maybe - just maybe - they might become available! -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 326178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:37:53 GMT "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns971168C0E382Enoone@63.223.7.253... > "Jon" wrote in > news:so_ef.16086$DL6.3858@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > >> digital AM > > Guys, will the digital AM and FM receivers be over-the-air addressable > like > the HDTV receivers so they can sell pay radio over the air like the TV > will > be? > > -- > Larry Yes, there is talk about adding subscription services on the sub channels. The benefit there is that they can be uncensored feeds because they are subscriber services. I have yet to hear about making the main channel a subscriber service. Jon Article: 326179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:41:01 GMT In article <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, cadyc@mchsi.com says... > > >Western Union is sounding good. Somebody please find a problem with >that. :-) > >Tox > ONly problem with western union that I know of.. #1 ... its a bit of a cost to the buyer.... to the seller its a matter of going to your local grocery store or wherever you have a WU pick up place siging your name filling out a simple form... show your drivers license and the hand U the Long Green Cash .... just picked one up yesterday... John k9uwa Article: 326180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:55:41 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: 120VAC, bayonet base light bulbs? References: <1132241545.127204.162230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132253494.940212.224790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132256204.569206.30920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1132270160.168989.56770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <59acf$437d187f$4232bd1a$17929@COQUI.NET> frenchy wrote: > Related - I have an old glass clock and a Spuds Mackensie lamp that use > little screw-in 4 watt bulbs (the night light kind). Anybody know of > an LED/diffused replacement for these, or some kind of heavy-duty > version? These darn things burn out left and right on me and they > aren't even ever turned off, the heat just kills them after a few > months. Or any LED type bulb at all that is made for 120v regardless > of the socket? thanks > Don't know of a 'factory made' replacement lamp. What if you were to place a diode in series with the incandescent lamp? Would that make it too dim? -Bill Article: 326181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Stewart Warner R-180A From: "LOP" Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:28:49 -0800 Message-ID: <1132273888_3051@spool6-east.superfeed.net> I am in the process of restoring the cabinet of a Stewart Warner R-180A receiver. I am looking for someone who has one of these or a picture of one of these so that I can properly match the new finish as close to the original as possible. It appears that some ot the cabinet was stained and varnished and a portion was painted. There are some parts that appear to have a smidgen of both and I can not tell if if was just poor workmanship or caused by time and the elements. I am an electronics guy and this is my first attempt at a cabinet. I am probably trying to be too much of a perfectionist but maybe one of you out there can suggest where to draw the line in attempting to make it look original. Thanks, Don and Liz ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 326182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What's with all the wires in back? References: <1O6ff.31841$2k5.9654@dukeread09> <97vpn15vjarc7vg8f5psni1jripq6uqah3@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:30:15 -0500 See pics on the binaries. Ken Blacksmith wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:41:05 -0500, Ken wrote: > > >>I just did one of these sets this summer. Wires coming out of the >>chassis are for the phono pickup and the phono motor. Looks like someone >>has modded it over pretty well. The phono works like this: When you lift >>the rear of the tone arm, it detents and a switch changes the set from >>radio to phono. When you move the tone atm to the record, another switch >>turns on the motor. Pretty slick. This setup gives the set a low >>profile, and there are no switches to mess with. If you have questions, >>mail me. WKLW at COX dot NET >> > > > So... That means that it was originally sold with a matching > phonograph? Did it sit on top of it or something? > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 326183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What's with all the wires in back? References: <1O6ff.31841$2k5.9654@dukeread09> <97vpn15vjarc7vg8f5psni1jripq6uqah3@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:32:41 -0500 BTW, my set is a GE H-639. What do you have left of the phono? Ken Blacksmith wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:41:05 -0500, Ken wrote: > > >>I just did one of these sets this summer. Wires coming out of the >>chassis are for the phono pickup and the phono motor. Looks like someone >>has modded it over pretty well. The phono works like this: When you lift >>the rear of the tone arm, it detents and a switch changes the set from >>radio to phono. When you move the tone atm to the record, another switch >>turns on the motor. Pretty slick. This setup gives the set a low >>profile, and there are no switches to mess with. If you have questions, >>mail me. WKLW at COX dot NET >> > > > So... That means that it was originally sold with a matching > phonograph? Did it sit on top of it or something? > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 326184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Stewart Warner R-180A References: <1132273888_3051@spool6-east.superfeed.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:35:49 -0500 The very best way to learn finishing is to do it. Everyone does it differently, you pick up your tricks along the way. Ken LOP wrote: > I am in the process of restoring the cabinet of a Stewart Warner R-180A > receiver. I am looking for someone who has one of these or a picture of one > of these so that I can properly match the new finish as close to the > original as possible. It appears that some ot the cabinet was stained and > varnished and a portion was painted. There are some parts that appear to > have a smidgen of both and I can not tell if if was just poor workmanship or > caused by time and the elements. > > I am an electronics guy and this is my first attempt at a cabinet. I am > probably trying to be too much of a perfectionist but maybe one of you out > there can suggest where to draw the line in attempting to make it look > original. > > Thanks, Don and Liz > > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 326185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Possible new reproduction Philco escutcheon? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:16:13 GMT Larry does excellent work! With the price of Fully restored consoles going up markedly the past couple years I think nothing of paying $30 -$35 for an escutsion repro for one, the investment is well worth while even if your also adding pushbuttons, dials, and grille cloth for a console resto. As for the little table sets... I still think that $25- $30 isnt to bad for a repro for the better sets. Good sets, like some of the transitones still bring good $$ and I think restorers would be very happy to have availability of escutsions. Keith' "Ron Ramirez" wrote in message news:Xns9711A2B44A6EDmrphilco@207.115.63.158... > As you know, Old-Time Replications makes perfect (actually, better than > original) reproductions of two styles of Philco escutcheons that were > originally made of Tenite. One is for Models 41-250, 41-255, 41-256, 41- > 280, 41-285, 41-287, 41-290, 41-610 and 41-611. The other is for Models > 42-355 and 42-390. > > There are many other Philco models which could be nifty looking sets if a > solution was available to their shrinking escutcheons. > > These include the foloowing models: > > 41-84, 41-85, 41-221C, 41-221CI (ivory), 41-226, 41-841, 41-842, 41-843, > 41-844, 41-851 42-842, 42-843, 42-844, 42-853, 42-854, 42-PT94, 42-PT95 > (ivory), 47-204 (ivory), 48-206 (ivory). > > All but the last two suffer from "Incredible Shrinking Escutcheon" > syndrome. The last two, however, are made from an improved plastic that > does not shrink or warp like the prewar Tenite escutcheons do. > > I would like to receive your thoughts on the possibility of having > reproductions of these escutcheons available. Please follow this link to > see pictures of a few sets using this escutcheon, and to leave your > feedback: > > http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=497#497 > > and participate in the poll by indicating how much you would be willing > to pay for a reproduction if they were available. (The poll will be > active for 21 days.) > > You do have to register to use the Philco Phorum. If you do not wish to > register, you may post your feedback here, or by sending me an e-mail > (replace philno.spam with philcoradio dot com to send me mail). > > I will forward the results to Larry in a few weeks. > > No promises. But if there is a great enough demand for this part, in > brown, ivory, or both, maybe - just maybe - they might become available! > -- > Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana > Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ > and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 326186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:29:50 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Need schematics for Heathkit FM-3 References: <1132276345.125266.221090@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Jiri Placek wrote: > tuner that followed me home last week. It does not play after > recapping, I need to trace the signal. Thanks. > > Jiri Placek > Boyertown, PA > Try this: http://web.archive.org/web/20010607174129/www.tom80.freeserve.co.uk/diagrams/fm3a.gif Article: 326187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: WTB:RCA 621ts,721ts,630ts Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:31:36 GMT Really? I have a 721 TCS (the Console version) that I restored for my collection. Im not really interested in selling it but theres always the "offer you cant refuse" Keith > > > > Here's your chance. These don't go cheap. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6226134240 > > jim menning > > Article: 326188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:38:18 GMT RadioGary wrote: > This is getting to be a bit hard to believe, so pardon me while I vent > my frustrations to the radio collectors online. If an item is damaged in shipment it is the packers fault for not packing it good enough, PERIOD. The folks that work for UPS, Fedex, USPS, etc. don't know nor do they get paid to know what is inside the box they're moving. ANYTHING can be packed so it will arrive undamaged, IF the packer knows how to pack it. Just a few weeks ago I received a heavy, almost 75 pounds, Clough-Brengle transmitter that was shipped via Fedex. The seller really knew how to pack. I fully believe they could have tossed it out the door of the truck as they drove down the street and it would have been OK. One of the mistakes most people make shipping radios is not packing the inside on the cabinet, not packing the boxes tight to prevent ANY movement. The transmitter in the packing was like a solid mass, nothing could move, nothing could break. All the tubes were wrapped and inside was completely packed tight with foam packing sheets. Don't blame the carrier because the seller won't pack properly. Ron Article: 326189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:40:16 -0500 Message-ID: <11nqc83ct5a0fd3@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132115782.535658.195650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132156301.469750.274560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7jlnn1lt1r9tc0cn5c97n72k71ta7tbm7a@4ax.com> <1132240174.110094.79680@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > > > Western Union is sounding good. Somebody please find a problem with > that. EBay tells buyers to never use it. John H. Article: 326190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:44:04 -0500 Message-ID: <11nqcf7nnrs6n3d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132273399.147623.172220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > Thanks John, I'll print all this out for my occasional sales. > > Man it's tough to see it sit there for $38, NO ONE BIDS EARLY. 10 day auctions are likely a waste it seems. John H. Article: 326191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: and... they have the chassis too! Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:55:51 -0500 Message-ID: <11nqd5dkrk81ja3@corp.supernews.com> References: Phil B wrote: > I can't believe I am posting this but I just have to say that Roseanne > Roseannadanna was definitely the one who said "never mind". HOW could your wife render this quote in Rosanne's low, thick heavy NewYorican Accent? THAT was Rosanne's voice. I worshipped Gilda Radner, and have reference to several books here. It was this high pitched, nasal "Nehhhveer Miiihnd!" that could ONLY come from Emily. It was used when she realized she was actually really mixed up. Being really mixed up (ala "Soviet Jewelry") was the ENTIRE schtick with Emily. Rosanne had nothing to say never mind about! John H. Article: 326192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132273399.147623.172220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nqcf7nnrs6n3d@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 01:54:34 GMT Hagstar wrote: > NO ONE BIDS EARLY. 10 day auctions are likely a waste it seems. > It just gives it longer to be seen by possible bidders. BUT it sure does get frustrating having to wait that long for one to end. Ron Article: 326193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "sonyfunai" Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:16:49 -0600 Message-ID: <11nqecs2laadk9b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I seriously doubt most Canadian Zenith collectors would agree with you on this point. Many international Ebay buyers will gladly pay a fortune for shipping if necessary. "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:uKaff.113240$y_1.21375@edtnps89... > Many of us up in the "frozen north" (Canada, if you didn't get it :-)) > would > rather pass up on one of your dear Zenith Walton's for US$100.00 than use > UPS. Article: 326194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Ron in Radio Heaven writes: >ANYTHING can be packed so it will arrive undamaged, >IF the packer knows how to pack it. The one thing I think would stymie just about anyone is one of these: http://www.tigercom.dsl.pipex.com/gallery.htm One showed up on eBay over the summer; unfortunately for me it was on the wrong side of the country. I have a couple of the smaller, two foot long jobbers, and they must have five pounds of mercury sloshing around inside. I can't imagine how you would go about shipping an evacuated glass envelop with a ten or twenty pound metal weight rattling around inside. As far as I know these were originally shipped in wooden crates, suspended in a web of canvas straps. Too bad mercury's not magnetic. :) Wisely, the seller listed it as pick-up ONLY. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: 38-116 arrived today Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:20:43 -0500 Came home from work to find three BIG boxes sittling inside the front porch. My seller shipped the beast via DHL. I won't be able to open and examine the radio until the weekend, but judging from the exterior condition of the boxes I suspect she made it okay.. Now, where to put the beast when it's refinished? The 1942 Zenith 12H689 might have to go. Pete http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570408907 p.s. Wifey didn't didn't even bother to ask................. Article: 326196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:50:47 -0500 I gave UPS a good chance when I first started shipping and receiving. They broke so much stuff I had to stop using them. This damage was so severe it looked intential, metal chassis bent, tough military equipment packed in military boxes smashed. I guess they're ok on replaceable items from catalogs, but for a one of a kind, stay away. I will never ship UPS again. Sure, they pay off with no fuss, but antiques are irreplaceable. I use FedEx, never had any breakage in four years, and they're cheaper than UPS. Ken RadioGary wrote: > This is getting to be a bit hard to believe, so pardon me while I vent > my frustrations to the radio collectors online. I just received a > notice (just through UPS tracking online) that my most recent purchase > on Ebay was "damaged in shipping," and didn't even reach my door. > Notice is being sent to the shipper. I can just imagine the Zenith > tombstone I was going to own in pieces thanks to UP dropanddumpit S. > About a month ago, I had another set shipped from a location less than > 100 miles from my home. This one reached my home not in pieces, but > obviously damaged and not like the description online. Refunded one > hundred percent, but no radio. Several months before that I received a > damaged Philco model 70 thanks to UPS, but partially due to poor > packing on the shippers side. Accepted a partial refund and kept the > set which was restorable. That makes three in a row shipped by UPS, > bought on Ebay. Has anyone else had noticable issues with UPS, or is > it my fault for choosing people who don't know how to pack? > Article: 326197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: 38-116 arrived today References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:53:58 -0500 I restored one of those a couple years ago. A beautiful set to work on, everything adjusted just like the instructions said. Ken Uncle Peter wrote: > Came home from work to find three BIG boxes sittling inside > the front porch. My seller shipped the beast via > DHL. I won't be able to open and examine the radio until the > weekend, but judging from the exterior condition of the > boxes I suspect she made it okay.. Now, where to put the > beast when it's refinished? The 1942 Zenith 12H689 might > have to go. > > Pete > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570408907 > > > > p.s. Wifey didn't didn't even bother to ask................. > > Article: 326198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "G S Aaron" Subject: FS: 1950 Silvertone AM radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 03:08:16 GMT Please take a look at this nice vintage 1950 Silvertone AM tube radio that I have listed on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6579009349&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Thanks for looking Article: 326199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range From: Larry References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:40:39 -0500 "Jon" wrote in news:lv8ff.5093$uC3.4614@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Yes, there is talk about adding subscription services on the sub > channels. The benefit there is that they can be uncensored feeds > because they are subscriber services. I have yet to hear about making > the main channel a subscriber service. > > Jon > Thanks, Jon. TV consumers are going to be pissed when they find out about the Pay TV on-the-air. -- Larry Article: 326200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:37:49 -0700 Message-ID: <19147-437D4C8D-291@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: More solid proof you should 100% avoid ups Article: 326201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? From: Larry References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:46:31 -0500 "RadioGary" wrote in news:1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > That makes three in a row shipped by UPS I quit shipping UPS after one of their local employees put a UPS address label over the one from Gulbransen and the brown truck delivered $2000 of Gulbransen Digital Hymnals to his girlfriend at a boat dealership. UPS would never tell me they fixed the problem and no police report was ever filed, dispite my police enquiries. Fedex is worth the difference. I ship electronics by them all the time. -- Larry Article: 326202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:44:13 +0900 Message-ID: References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9711E6611B660noone@63.223.7.253... > "Jon" wrote in > news:lv8ff.5093$uC3.4614@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > >> Yes, there is talk about adding subscription services on the sub >> channels. The benefit there is that they can be uncensored feeds >> because they are subscriber services. I have yet to hear about making >> the main channel a subscriber service. >> >> Jon >> > > Thanks, Jon. TV consumers are going to be pissed when they find out about > the Pay TV on-the-air. > > -- Been done already. 20+ years ago. Anyone remember ON-TV? Article: 326203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: DIALS MADE FOR YOUR OLD RADIO. Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:56:46 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22448-437C8E29-227@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:05:29 -0600, Bill Turner wrote: > HERE IS A SOURCE FOR DIALS, THEY LOOK VERY GOOD. > http://www.showcarquality.com/ > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Welcome back! -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <7udff.5892$Y82.4574@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:20:12 -0600 Brenda Ann wrote: > Been done already. 20+ years ago. Anyone remember ON-TV? yup - dissected an Oak box when my parents got tired of it (and ON showed no interest in retrieving it)... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Two speed tuning (Re: Olympic tube portable radio) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:40:08 -0700 Message-ID: References: <43778D09.B26EF5F@optonline.net><4377C17E.8B462E9@optonline.net> <6d417$437aa5b1$4232bd23$15638@COQUI.NET> <1132264188.629953.160190@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1132264188.629953.160190@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The owner of the website also mentions something called "Two Speed > tuning" and wonders what this means since the dial is directly coupled > to the tuning condenser. > > My best guess is that you can quickly spin the tuning dial using the > two "wings" toward the center of the dial and then once you're in the > general area of the station you want, you can "zero-in" with the > outside rim (larger circumference, so it would turn a bit slower).. > > Just a simple sales gimmick. if its that simple i own a bunch of two speed stuff!!! yee haw!!!! im heading out to the garage and see if i got any two speed hand tools randy Article: 326206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:43:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> speaking for myself.... if it werent for ebay i wouldnt know if shipping companies were good bad or indifferent. i expect them to be bad and pack accordingly. so to answer your question, in part because of ebay, i think its more like more people noticing the bad shipping that already existed.... companies that already dealt much with shipping learned how to pack their stuff to accomodate the shipping companies. your average joe blow hasnt yet. randy Article: 326207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:52:27 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Larry Fowkes wrote: > I have read talk here and there of digitals arrival. What is the timeline > for all stations to convert. In other words is there a cut off date when > traditional analog radios will become useless unless we broadcast our own > signals? Or will both signals be broadcast for the forseeable future? I would venture to guess that analog AM is good to go for another 10 years, at least. 99.7% of all radios sold since 1920 have an AM band, and consumers are indifferent enough to the advantages (if any) of digital AM that they aren't likely to pay more money to make the switch by buying a newer set. Such a huge installed analog-only base and lack of enthusiasm for digital means that a shift to digital-only AM is many years off, if it occurs at all. The only way it would happen sooner is a dramatic improvement in the technology that gets consumers excited enough that it matters to them. Somehow, I just don't see people throwing out their analog AM radios in favor of digital in the same way they tossed their vinyl LPs for CDs or their VHS tapes for DVDs. The audible difference is just not that dramatic. Of course, the proponents of digital AM might be able to piss in the FCC's ear enough times to get it mandated as a feature in all new radios sold (that's the political wild card in all this), but such a move hasn't happened yet. -Scott Article: 326208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New improved model with increased range Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:18:12 +0900 Message-ID: References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dljq6r016sn@news2.newsguy.com... > Larry Fowkes wrote: > >> I have read talk here and there of digitals arrival. What is the timeline >> for all stations to convert. In other words is there a cut off date when >> traditional analog radios will become useless unless we broadcast our own >> signals? Or will both signals be broadcast for the forseeable future? > > I would venture to guess that analog AM is good to go for another 10 > years, at least. 99.7% of all radios sold since 1920 have an AM band, and > consumers are indifferent enough to the advantages (if any) of digital AM > that they aren't likely to pay more money to make the switch by buying a > newer set. Such a huge installed analog-only base and lack of enthusiasm > for digital means that a shift to digital-only AM is many years off, if it > occurs at all. The only way it would happen sooner is a dramatic > improvement in the technology that gets consumers excited enough that it > matters to them. > > Somehow, I just don't see people throwing out their analog AM radios in > favor of digital in the same way they tossed their vinyl LPs for CDs or > their VHS tapes for DVDs. The audible difference is just not that > dramatic. The broadcast industry (with Clear Channel as their flag bearer) is making sure that people will want to get rid of their AM only radios. They've already cut the frequency response of the AM part of the station's emissions down to 4-5 KHz, and that awful digital modulation interferes with not only their own AM signal but that of two or more adjacent stations as well. This is why to date they aren't allowed to run IBOC at night. Since Canada and Mexico are not going to be running IBOC, sound engineering practices, and current radio treaty, should indicate that it never WILL BE, because it would interfere with radio from neighboring countries. And to make matters worse, though I have no empirical data upon which to base it, only good sound radio theory, skip would not cause just annoying co-channel interference anymore, but strong skip would cause a total breakup of reception as the crossover point between the two signals' RF levels occurs. Pretty much make skywave DX worthless, since the station will either be there, or not.. Article: 326209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:30:11 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Need schematics for Heathkit FM-3 References: <1132276345.125266.221090@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132278990.009418.173390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <67cb7$437d74f5$4232bd3a$24315@COQUI.NET> Jiri Placek wrote: > Thanks, Bill. I appreciate the lead. So now I know that a radio with > wrong tubes in sockets does not play. I'm learning new things every > day. ;o) > > Kind regards, Jiri > I note that was the FM-3A model. I hope there's not too muh difference. -Bill Article: 326210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:37:32 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Brenda Ann wrote: > worse, though I have no empirical data upon which to base it, only good > sound radio theory, skip would not cause just annoying co-channel > interference anymore, but strong skip would cause a total breakup of > reception as the crossover point between the two signals' RF levels occurs. > Pretty much make skywave DX worthless, since the station will either be > there, or not.. > > I figure IBOC to be similar to BPL in the respect that they just haven't figured out yet how poorly it will work out in the longer run. These things are basically in the marketing department at the moment without any substantial quantity of users raising hell. -Bill Article: 326211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437D8EC4.587A0816@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New References: <4oUef.1820$2k6.151@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:21:42 GMT Brenda Ann wrote: > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns9711E6611B660noone@63.223.7.253... > > "Jon" wrote in > > news:lv8ff.5093$uC3.4614@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > > > >> Yes, there is talk about adding subscription services on the sub > >> channels. The benefit there is that they can be uncensored feeds > >> because they are subscriber services. I have yet to hear about making > >> the main channel a subscriber service. > >> > >> Jon > >> > > > > Thanks, Jon. TV consumers are going to be pissed when they find out about > > the Pay TV on-the-air. > > > > -- > > Been done already. 20+ years ago. Anyone remember ON-TV? Mendelson's, in Dayton Ohio had about 15,000 surplus decoders and antenna kits after WBTI in Cincinnati shut down their pay service. They were selling them by the pallet to people in other parts of the country, but it wasn't long before the whole scheme disappeared. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437D9115.730B107@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 38-116 arrived today References: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:31:35 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > Came home from work to find three BIG boxes sittling inside > the front porch. My seller shipped the beast via > DHL. I won't be able to open and examine the radio until the > weekend, but judging from the exterior condition of the > boxes I suspect she made it okay.. Now, where to put the > beast when it's refinished? The 1942 Zenith 12H689 might > have to go. > > Pete > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570408907 > > p.s. Wifey didn't didn't even bother to ask................. That looks like a fun project that will keep you busy for a while. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:53:00 GMT > On the other hand, I've had quite a few things arrive undamaged (or with > minor damage) despite bad packing. A lot of times packing just comes down to common sense. I had a guy send me a repro radio dial glass, and he packed it in a bubble lined envelope, with no additional protection whatsoever. Of course, it arrived broken. Another guy, whose name most everyone here would recognize, returned a tube to me (a large ST, it wasn't defective, he just didn't like the "sound"). I sent it to him in a new generic white tube box, wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, with lots of peanuts around that, in a sturdy carton. When he sent it back, he put the address label on the white tube box, and mailed it without any protection at all. It survived, by some miracle. This guy has been in the tube audio business for years and years, and should have known better. I'm surprised he didn't keep the white tube box too, and stick the address label right on the glass! -- Mike Schultz "Andy Cuffe" wrote in message news:m4qqn15dh2sugnva80824994jld7tacl0s@4ax.com... > On 17 Nov 2005 17:09:43 -0800, "RadioGary" wrote: > >>This is getting to be a bit hard to believe, so pardon me while I vent >>my frustrations to the radio collectors online. I just received a >>notice (just through UPS tracking online) that my most recent purchase >>on Ebay was "damaged in shipping," and didn't even reach my door. >>Notice is being sent to the shipper. > > For them to not even bother delivering it, it must have been run over > by a truck or something. I've had some pretty tatty boxes delivered > by UPS. It usually comes down to packing though. I've never had a > properly packed item arrived damaged. On the other hand, I've had > quite a few things arrive undamaged (or with minor damage) despite bad > packing. > Andy Cuffe > > baltimora@psu.edu <-- Use this address until 12/31/2005 > > acuffe@gmail.com <-- Use this address after 12/31/2005 Article: 326214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <%q5ff.60$fO5.10@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: What's with all the wires in back? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:50:55 GMT "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:l5tpn1pliidia4phh1cmmvas443t6fksmi@4ax.com... > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:08:27 GMT, "Larry Fowkes" > wrote: > > > Don't make a special trip, Larry. I may work on a customer's Walton > first instead. I have to make a dial cover for his Sleeping Beauty > radio too. I really should get that done first. > > By the way, how much does the rent on that room cost you? I might just > do the same. > > .... > Blacksmith Ed, The 10x10 climate controlled unit is $100.00 per month. The standard unheated version is $80.00 per month. I expect the pricing will be similar in most areas, it seems that there is a lot of money in the storage business! They keep the temp at 58° winter and 78° summer, I figured it was worth the extra 20 a month. Larry Article: 326215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Message-ID: References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:15:15 -0500 On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:53:00 GMT, "Mike Schultz" wrote: >> On the other hand, I've had quite a few things arrive undamaged (or with >> minor damage) despite bad packing. > >A lot of times packing just comes down to common sense. I had a guy send me >a repro radio dial glass, and he packed it in a bubble lined envelope, with >no additional protection whatsoever. Of course, it arrived broken. > >Another guy, whose name most everyone here would recognize, returned a tube >to me (a large ST, it wasn't defective, he just didn't like the "sound"). I >sent it to him in a new generic white tube box, wrapped in multiple layers >of bubble wrap, with lots of peanuts around that, in a sturdy carton. When >he sent it back, he put the address label on the white tube box, and mailed >it without any protection at all. It survived, by some miracle. This guy >has been in the tube audio business for years and years, and should have >known better. I'm surprised he didn't keep the white tube box too, and >stick the address label right on the glass! That's Funny! I bought a Knight signal generator from someone on the list here. He also has been here for years and should know better. It was packed in a single wall cardboard box that had just enough room for the item to fit. It had no packing. Of course it was crushed when it arrived here. I only paid 20 dollars for it so it was not a real big deal. I'm inclined to agree with Ron. The only damaged stuff that I have received has been the sellers fault. I think if it's packed well it will survive. With that said, I do have a fedex account and only use them. I bought a r-390 from a person on the 390 mail list. I provided him with my fedex account number and had it billed to me. He pulled the power supply and another heavy module and shipped them in separate boxes from the radio. He did an absolute outstanding job. The items arrived in perfect shape. Once unpacked, I installed the modules, fired up the radio and was listening in just a few minutes. It was a pleasure to get something packed so nicely. Article: 326216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:22:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "RadioGary" wrote: > That makes three in a row shipped by UPS, > bought on Ebay. Has anyone else had noticable issues with UPS, or is > it my fault for choosing people who don't know how to pack? Looks like marking the outside of a shipping container with words like "Fragile" doesn't mean all that much anymore (did it ever?). I keep recalling that TV ad many years ago where the gorilla is throwing the suitcase about. Do the UPS folks appear to be more hirsute these days ;-)? Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 326217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:24:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I use exclusively FedEx ground in my repair business. They seem to be more careful with your customer's stuff. Also, their office is open all day, and their local staff more helpful and friendly. The local UPS office is only open to receive packages several hours in the late afternoon. The worst shipping experience I have had is at a "UPS Store." - Jim Barnard www.transistor-repairs.com Specializing in Zenith Transistor Radio Repair/Restoration "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This is getting to be a bit hard to believe, so pardon me while I vent > my frustrations to the radio collectors online. I just received a > notice (just through UPS tracking online) that my most recent purchase > on Ebay was "damaged in shipping," and didn't even reach my door. > Notice is being sent to the shipper. I can just imagine the Zenith > tombstone I was going to own in pieces thanks to UP dropanddumpit S. > About a month ago, I had another set shipped from a location less than > 100 miles from my home. This one reached my home not in pieces, but > obviously damaged and not like the description online. Refunded one > hundred percent, but no radio. Several months before that I received a > damaged Philco model 70 thanks to UPS, but partially due to poor > packing on the shippers side. Accepted a partial refund and kept the > set which was restorable. That makes three in a row shipped by UPS, > bought on Ebay. Has anyone else had noticable issues with UPS, or is > it my fault for choosing people who don't know how to pack? > Article: 326218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Strange Picture In NY Times Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:37:13 -0500 Message-ID: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> On this page is a picture of a "terrorist suitcase bomb". But it is a mock bomb from the Times files, right ? Why else would one cut holes in a piece of printed circuit and mount spark plug sockets in it ? http://nytimes.com/2005/11/18/international/europe/18milan.html?hp&ex=1132376400&en=0b3f6d5fd2a4291a&ei=5094&partner=homepage John H. Article: 326219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Strange Picture In NY Times Message-ID: References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:50:51 -0500 On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:37:13 -0500, Hagstar wrote: >On this page is a picture of a "terrorist suitcase bomb". But it is a >mock bomb from the Times files, right ? Why else would one cut holes in >a piece of printed circuit and mount spark plug sockets in it ? > >http://nytimes.com/2005/11/18/international/europe/18milan.html?hp&ex=1132376400&en=0b3f6d5fd2a4291a&ei=5094&partner=homepage > >John H. Looks more like threaded pipe with caps on it to me. Article: 326220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What's with all the wires in back? References: <1O6ff.31841$2k5.9654@dukeread09> <97vpn15vjarc7vg8f5psni1jripq6uqah3@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:52:36 -0500 Mine came in a basket, all in pieces,had no back at all. The loop antenna was there, so I fashioned a back and bolted the ant on. So, does your set doesn't have the fold up lid? If not, maybe someone has wired it for an external phono. I'll take a shot of the ant and post on binaries. Or contact me by email, wklw at cox dot net Ken Blacksmith wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:32:41 -0500, Ken wrote: > > >>BTW, my set is a GE H-639. What do you have left of the phono? Ken > > > Nothing. The wires you see are all that are left. > Wow! Looks nice Ken. Mine doesn't have anything on top. It's just a > radio. Did you see the pics on the binaries? > > There's no back on this thing and I traced 2 of the wires out of the > chassis to an antenna coil (missing of course) I assume it was > attached to the back. > > Could you get a picture of the antenna on the back if there is one? > And the back? > > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 326221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Possible new reproduction Philco escutcheon? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:16:10 -0700 I would certainly pay handsomely for a 42-PT94 escutcehon. I have one of these, with a MUCH worse escutcheon than the one shown in the Philcoradio photo. Without a new escutfgcheon, it is not worth starting any restoration work. Bill J. -------------------------- Ron Ramirez wrote: > As you know, Old-Time Replications makes perfect (actually, better than > original) reproductions of two styles of Philco escutcheons that were > originally made of Tenite. One is for Models 41-250, 41-255, 41-256, 41- > 280, 41-285, 41-287, 41-290, 41-610 and 41-611. The other is for Models > 42-355 and 42-390. > > There are many other Philco models which could be nifty looking sets if a > solution was available to their shrinking escutcheons. > > These include the foloowing models: > > 41-84, 41-85, 41-221C, 41-221CI (ivory), 41-226, 41-841, 41-842, 41-843, > 41-844, 41-851 42-842, 42-843, 42-844, 42-853, 42-854, 42-PT94, 42-PT95 > (ivory), 47-204 (ivory), 48-206 (ivory). > > All but the last two suffer from "Incredible Shrinking Escutcheon" > syndrome. The last two, however, are made from an improved plastic that > does not shrink or warp like the prewar Tenite escutcheons do. > > I would like to receive your thoughts on the possibility of having > reproductions of these escutcheons available. Please follow this link to > see pictures of a few sets using this escutcheon, and to leave your > feedback: > > http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=497#497 > > and participate in the poll by indicating how much you would be willing > to pay for a reproduction if they were available. (The poll will be > active for 21 days.) > > You do have to register to use the Philco Phorum. If you do not wish to > register, you may post your feedback here, or by sending me an e-mail > (replace philno.spam with philcoradio dot com to send me mail). > > I will forward the results to Larry in a few weeks. > > No promises. But if there is a great enough demand for this part, in > brown, ivory, or both, maybe - just maybe - they might become available! > -- > Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana > Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ > and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 326222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132328928.665613.183850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:11:18 GMT On 18-Nov-2005, "toxcrusadr" wrote: snip> I don't know how you break one bottle inside the cocoon that I constructed but they managed it. snip> Just received a gift from a good friend in Portugal. A 26 oz.bottle of Port wine! The "real thing"!! The remarkable thing is it came by post office airmail - shipped from the producer in a box 4 inches square and about the height of the bottle. The box was lined with a styrofoam block which had been bored out to fit the bottle closely, leaving no more than 3/8" of styrofoam protection and about the same at both ends. The top was closed with the type of flaps which could be readily opened and closed too. I didn't think I believed in miracles.......... :-). Haggis. Article: 326223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Strange Picture In NY Times References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> <1132321119.804123.109970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:44:59 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > Huh? Those are threaded galvanized pipes likely filled with > explosives, Probably C4 with an electric detonator in each pipe. > together with safety pins (Right! Safety Pins) Actually, looks more like a collection of 3/16" or 1/4" nuts and bolts. They have more inertial mass to go further with. The cell phone, obvously, is the remote control. Just a connection across the vibrator motor. More than likely, the case was filled completely with the nuts and bolts when seized originally. Effectively, what you have here is the equivalent of a military Claymore mine. Although, it's pretty hard to walk through a crowd with a dark green disk with a red stripe with "This side towards enemy" written on it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Two New Grandkids on the Way From: eccles@idiot.gov (Tom Lager) References: <1132148624.489392.239380@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <971170C26Lagertptdnet@140.99.99.130> <1132259325.889342.210610@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <971288D18Lagertptdnet@140.99.99.130> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:50:15 GMT tschw10117@aol.com wrote in <1132259325.889342.210610 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: >Familiar signature... Is that you Barry? > > >Tom Lager wrote: >> pfjw@aol.com (Peter Wieck) wrote in <1132148624.489392.239380 >> @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>: >> >> > >> > >> >> Congratulations Peter. You now qualify for the T-shirt with the logo >> "Grandpa is my name - Spoiling is my game" >> -- >> So long and thanks for all the fish. > > Nope. Just read all 4 Douglas Adams books and thought it was a neat signature line. -- So long and thanks for all the fish. Article: 326225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Broadcast OTR to your vintage radios with this transmitter-New Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:46:43 -0800 Message-ID: <5408-437E2FA3-166@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: >From John B.: >...what is the point of skywave reception >today, it has been superseded by other >better solutions? Once upon a time hearing mysterious lands with their distance emphasized by the rolling fade held a certain allure and mystique. It's gone the way of the dodo bird for sure, but fondly remembered by some. And there was the challenge of working a station on the other side of the world on 5 watts. Something intangible but vey good has been lost in the 'newer, better solutions'. Bill(oc) Article: 326226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Change in the way Google displays messages Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:24:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132344057.811816.178890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> personally, ive found many little annoyances like this with google newsgroups. im sure you could get around most of them, but i feel like i shouldnt have to... randy wrote in message news:1132344057.811816.178890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Anyone else notice this? Now only the author of the first message is > shown, and the date of the first post. Makes it hard to follow. Unless > I've got it configured wrong? Can't see how. > > When did this change? > > Terry. > Article: 326227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131997723.555306.166050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:39:32 -0600 "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1131997723.555306.166050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Brian, are you on the East Coast too? Looks like JPS internet service > is in the CT-Rhode Island area. > > The streets are not paved with em out here in Missouri. I even keep > the ratty ones. > > Tox > That's my email when I lived in northern Cal. I live in Southern , MN now. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: doubleHump Subject: Need pic of a crystal set ad Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:59:32 -0800 Message-ID: <11nsn6leo2vl6bd@corp.supernews.com> I'm donating a Martian Big 4 to a local museum (it is a local historical piece) and need to find a good copy of the original Martian ad -- the one with the family of 4 sitting around a table, all wearing headsets. I'd appreciate a link to a web page (Google failed me) or perhaps a posting to a.b.pictures.radio. Thanks, doubleHump Article: 326229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst 162 C Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:13:45 -0600 "Ken" wrote in message news:pS%ef.31136$2k5.3682@dukeread09... > When you get it going, let us know how accurate the tuning scales are. I > found it impossible to get good tracking across the dials. I installed a > cathode follower, switchable between the RF and OSC, that gives enough > signal output to drive my HP counter. Great for checking receiver tracking > probs. Also, I find the meter easier to use than the eyes. Ken > I will Ken -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1132329285.148981.15200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 42-1010 - smoke from output transformer Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:40:59 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:yf-dndvJwKd-n-PeRVn-sA@comcast.com... > if the caps across the output go to chassis and they are shorted, this > would > happen, but Philco usually returns the low end of their caps to B+ there. > You can just cut them out for a test. With the power off, check for short > to chassis from each output tube plate. > > Mark Oppat > > I can only see one cap associated with the output, and I replaced it with a new cap. There's no smoke without the output tubes, but a double check does show one with low emission. I could not get either to show a short with a quick test though. I think I'll take some extra time and go through the wires that I replaced just to make sure nothing is shorting. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 326231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1132329285.148981.15200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1132330622.114485.237640@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 42-1010 - smoke from output transformer Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:41:00 GMT wrote in message news:1132330622.114485.237640@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> What should I be looking for as a cause for the smoking >> output transformer? I don't see any obvious solder >> blobs around the tube sockets and the tubes show no shorts. > > Two possibilities: > > 1. Short or insulation breakdown in the transformer. If you pull the > audio output tube and you still get the smoke then it's probably the > transformer. No smoke without the output tubes. > > 2. Too much current through the transformer, usually caused by too > much current through the output tube, usually caused by a bad coupling > capacitor (although can also be wrong voltages on the screen due to > failed bypasses, etc.). If you can hook up a mA meter and watch the > current from the transformer to the tube's plate then you can learn > some stuff. I replaced the cap - and just checked it for shorts with the tubes pulled - looks okay. > > You say you're bringing this up on a Variac... I dunno about your > particular Philco, but with some receivers it's possible that at 60VAC > line voltage that you have the wrong voltage on the screen grid of the > audio output tube and this causes way too much current to flow, but > that as you go up closer to normal line voltage the screen grid gets > the right voltage and the current becomes normal again. Grid bias > supplies can be funky this way sometimes (especially if they go through > some funky resistor networks and assumed shared screen currents to get > to the right bias). > > Tim. I didn't think of that - but I'm unsure of bringing it up at full voltage until I'm sure there's not a short. I'll keep the NG posted. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 326232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: 38-116 arrived today Message-ID: <7zuff.530$1x.397@fed1read06> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:44:15 -0500 Update: Unboxed the beast, found one tube broken--but it was bubblewrapped and probably came out of the set that way. Everything else survived the trip without incident. DHL did a good job. Pete p.s. anyone have a few extra Philco square tube shields? Article: 326233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Burson" Subject: vacuum forming dial covers Message-ID: <%zuff.22091$Zv5.7362@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:44:43 GMT The DIY plastic forming technique discussed here in the past works well for simple shapes and approximate dimensions. I'm referring to the 2-piece wood die used with the kitchen oven, which I've used twice with satisfactory results. But vacuum forming is apparently quite simple and economical and can provide highly detailed parts to exacting precision. This site shows the home-made apparatus and the process in detail, using .060" thick PET sheet and a shop-vac. Also some discussion of making decals. http://marvin3m.com/vacuum/ Dave Burson Article: 326234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Philco model 650 - schematic vs. reality Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:11:27 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1132361864.905643.170660@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "two-clubs" wrote in message news:1132361864.905643.170660@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello. New member here. I've got a Philco Model 650 saved from parents' > home. Floor model with pop-top to view the dial, volume, etc. I've got > a Rider schematic. Radio works OK, but I'm trying to re-cap. After 5 > days of reviewing Web, I have questions: Sounds like some modifications have been done to this thing.. some you can ignore, others should be put back to original. > 1. The two electrolytic capacitors, Part 77 and 78, were at some point > recapped with > "Lyticap" capacitors valued at 20MFD and 40MFD, respectively. My > schematic says 8MFD and 10MFD. Should I recap with 8 and 10? This is a perfectly acceptable substitution. Electrolytics have always been very broad as far as specifications are concerned. Article: 326235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Ain't That Specular.... Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:15:31 -0500 Message-ID: <11nsv5n2nuoi249@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/Stewart-Warner-R127A-Prado-Tube-radio-1933-WORKS_W0QQitemZ6579108536 John H. Article: 326236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:18:05 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Ain't That Specular.... References: <11nsv5n2nuoi249@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <5f7da$437e7d4f$4232bdab$15915@COQUI.NET> Hagstar wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/Stewart-Warner-R127A-Prado-Tube-radio-1933-WORKS_W0QQitemZ6579108536 > > > John H. > Apparently not every radio in Twin Falls can be had for $10 or less. -Bill Article: 326237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: "Completely Restored" But Not Working Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:32:57 -0500 Message-ID: <11nt06ciii6jhb5@corp.supernews.com> Seems like an exemplary ad until you examine it carefully. Hit that Supersize button for a close look at that, er, cabinet work..... http://cgi.ebay.com/1938-Truetone-D-724-Tube-Radio-w-tuning-eye_W0QQitemZ6578632537 John H. Article: 326238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Philco speaker Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:40:46 -0500 Message-ID: <11nt0l2ii5r085f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132247226.128221.154910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1132289600.566780.40080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132333516.406236.261050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1132338679.878909.144840@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > I have two or three sets in the shop that I recapped and did everything > else I thought they needed, and they don't work. I never give up on > them, and am hoping that when I go back to them with a fresh eye, I'll > figure out what the problems are. Buy signal tracer DO NOT READ THE MANUAL OR ANY BOOKS ABOUT HOW TO USE IT!!! Turn on, turn speaker on, volume up, radio powered up Poke around chassis totally at random until you hear static or a station Find where the sound stops and silence begins, replace cap, coil, or resistor there John H. Article: 326239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rick" References: <%zuff.22091$Zv5.7362@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: vacuum forming dial covers Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:11:25 GMT "Dave Burson" wrote in message news:%zuff.22091$Zv5.7362@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > The DIY plastic forming technique discussed here in the past works well for > simple shapes and approximate dimensions. I'm referring to the 2-piece wood > die used with the kitchen oven, which I've used twice with satisfactory > results. But vacuum forming is apparently quite simple and economical and > can provide highly detailed parts to exacting precision. This site shows > the home-made apparatus and the process in detail, using .060" thick PET > sheet and a shop-vac. Also some discussion of making decals. > http://marvin3m.com/vacuum/ > > Dave Burson Here's another one some might find interesting... http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,214264,214264#msg-214264 and a little more description of the above http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,96295,96301#msg-96301 Article: 326240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Strange Picture In NY Times Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:19:16 -0500 Message-ID: <11nt2t8a3svf581@corp.supernews.com> References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> <1132321119.804123.109970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132327198.711897.172760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132332597.692990.167000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Oh, they are far worse than that. They are Fanatics. Nah. it's simple. It's eBay vs. fixed price for the women. When you're used to simply buying a woman like a cow, it must be terrifying to think of actually having to COMPETE for them on an open market in the Western manner. But you can't have a thriving economy of ANY sort with a fixed price system like that. Woman making the best deal for themselves is an ENORMOUS and essential goad to a consumer economy. It's like why Lincoln freed the slaves- specifically and solely so they could become consumers. Just as the South would have languished in its feudal backward state forever likely without Abe's release of the biggest pent up consumer demand in history, so extremist Muslim countries can't and shouldn't keep half the population in virtual chains. Of course, they are plenty of right wing people in the US who would be interested in a fixed price on women if only it were possible. Everything they fear and hate about us can be found at Hooters. It IS scary to deal with an enemy who tells you in effect "thank Allah they are just beating us now instead of harming our Book !!!" Did you hear Bin Laden is trying to break some Catholic soldiers he captured by forcing them to eat meat on Friday? Oh, and they burned a Bible, and there was almost a riot in the US until the staff reminded everyone it was time for their medication and bed. Arguing over who has the better invisible friend is insane. Religion needs to be purged from all the governments and public schools of the world (starting here in the US), burned out with a white flame of righteous secular humanism, before we go entirely into the toilet. Otherwise next we'll be faced with things like Faith Based Engineering (why do testing to design a plane or a skyscraper when prayer can provide all the right figures?"). John H. Article: 326241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Mahagony Edison Standard? From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1132353851.645079.88020@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:32:51 GMT Message-ID: <437e8e1c_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> According to Frow's book, Standards could be ordered in Mahogany for an additional $4.50. I don't know how many people were willing to spend the extra dough though. Ron L Article: 326242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Wanted: Kolster speaker Driver Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:35:37 GMT I think weve all had that let down when we open a vintage speaker and walla! and 8 ohmer in there! I need a driver for a Kolster K6 speaker, its the companion speaker for a K20 Kolster coffin set. ANyone have one? Thanks, -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El BajaRojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 Golf "Winterat" 93 Rx7 "Redstur" Article: 326243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Zenith 8-S-463 Dial Cord - Solution Found! Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:42:45 -0500 Message-ID: <437E9125.8030907@SPAMMERSatt.net> References: Ziggy Zaggy wrote: > Found the correct one in a Culligan Water Softener > replacement o-ring p/n OR-34. One of the reasons I am certain the world makes no sense is that it has never taken me more than ten minutes to disassemble the drive and install a properly sized INTACT O-ring (Cuno Whole House water filter housing). It sure is easier and likely longer lasting than the ones I glued up in the past. When I post this the same folks who want to melt all the wax off coil assemblies because they are a bit dirty and who boil each Philco capacitor "boat" in lacquer thinner to remove the tar tell me taking apart the dial drive is FAR too time consuming. John H. Article: 326244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Philco speaker Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:37:39 -0700 Message-ID: <15730-437E8FF3-601@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <11nt0l2ii5r085f@corp.supernews.com> Or just test the IF cans and other coils with an ohm meter . Article: 326245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: 38-116 arrived today Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:46:13 GMT Im gonna do mine this winter... I am..... I REALLY am!! Keith " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:yTaff.478$1x.40@fed1read06... > Came home from work to find three BIG boxes sittling inside > the front porch. My seller shipped the beast via > DHL. I won't be able to open and examine the radio until the > weekend, but judging from the exterior condition of the > boxes I suspect she made it okay.. Now, where to put the > beast when it's refinished? The 1942 Zenith 12H689 might > have to go. > > Pete > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6570408907 > > > > p.s. Wifey didn't didn't even bother to ask................. > > Article: 326246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132115782.535658.195650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132156301.469750.274560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7jlnn1lt1r9tc0cn5c97n72k71ta7tbm7a@4ax.com> <1132240174.110094.79680@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nqc83ct5a0fd3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Message-ID: <_mwff.9805$uC3.1068@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:47:22 GMT Western Union is a GIANT red flag that there is a Scammer involved. Keith > > > > Western Union is sounding good. Somebody please find a problem with > > that. > > EBay tells buyers to never use it. > > John H. > Article: 326247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <6KydnUNBp_2T9uDeRVn-pg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Possible new reproduction Philco escutcheon? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:49:29 GMT --Customer Number one for a Silvertone bezel is right here :-) I got a nice set from Mark last summer that Id love to get a repro for rather than have to get creative myself. Keith > Ron, > in addition to Philco, there are a pile of Silvertone sets out there that > need bezels! Especially the one that is basically a rectangle wrapped over > the top edge of the set (1938 era). EVERY one of those sets has a bad > bezel, or, its missing. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Ron Ramirez" wrote in message > news:Xns9711A2B44A6EDmrphilco@207.115.63.158... > > As you know, Old-Time Replications makes perfect (actually, better than > > original) reproductions of two styles of Philco escutcheons that were > > originally made of Tenite. One is for Models 41-250, 41-255, 41-256, 41- > > 280, 41-285, 41-287, 41-290, 41-610 and 41-611. The other is for Models > > 42-355 and 42-390. > > > > There are many other Philco models which could be nifty looking sets if a > > solution was available to their shrinking escutcheons. > > > > These include the foloowing models: > > > > 41-84, 41-85, 41-221C, 41-221CI (ivory), 41-226, 41-841, 41-842, 41-843, > > 41-844, 41-851 42-842, 42-843, 42-844, 42-853, 42-854, 42-PT94, 42-PT95 > > (ivory), 47-204 (ivory), 48-206 (ivory). > > > > All but the last two suffer from "Incredible Shrinking Escutcheon" > > syndrome. The last two, however, are made from an improved plastic that > > does not shrink or warp like the prewar Tenite escutcheons do. > > > > I would like to receive your thoughts on the possibility of having > > reproductions of these escutcheons available. Please follow this link to > > see pictures of a few sets using this escutcheon, and to leave your > > feedback: > > > > http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=497#497 > > > > and participate in the poll by indicating how much you would be willing > > to pay for a reproduction if they were available. (The poll will be > > active for 21 days.) > > > > You do have to register to use the Philco Phorum. If you do not wish to > > register, you may post your feedback here, or by sending me an e-mail > > (replace philno.spam with philcoradio dot com to send me mail). > > > > I will forward the results to Larry in a few weeks. > > > > No promises. But if there is a great enough demand for this part, in > > brown, ivory, or both, maybe - just maybe - they might become available! > > -- > > Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana > > Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ > > and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php > > > > > Article: 326248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:54:38 GMT UPS packages need to be reinforced with fiberboard panels to keep the fork trucks from spearing them, AND packed so that youll be comfortable kicking them down a flight of stairs cause UPS sure will! I may look into Fedex again... last time I looked they were considerably more $$ than UPS and customers wouldnt pay for it... but at some point you get what you pay for. -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El BajaRojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 Golf "Winterat" 93 Rx7 "Redstur" "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This is getting to be a bit hard to believe, so pardon me while I vent > my frustrations to the radio collectors online. I just received a > notice (just through UPS tracking online) that my most recent purchase > on Ebay was "damaged in shipping," and didn't even reach my door. > Notice is being sent to the shipper. I can just imagine the Zenith > tombstone I was going to own in pieces thanks to UP dropanddumpit S. > About a month ago, I had another set shipped from a location less than > 100 miles from my home. This one reached my home not in pieces, but > obviously damaged and not like the description online. Refunded one > hundred percent, but no radio. Several months before that I received a > damaged Philco model 70 thanks to UPS, but partially due to poor > packing on the shippers side. Accepted a partial refund and kept the > set which was restorable. That makes three in a row shipped by UPS, > bought on Ebay. Has anyone else had noticable issues with UPS, or is > it my fault for choosing people who don't know how to pack? > Article: 326249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:56:48 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: "Completely Restored" But Not Working References: <11nt06ciii6jhb5@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Theresa McCarty wrote: > My kind of radio! Tuning eye, all 4 knobs, 2 bands, wood cab., 8 all-glowing > tubes inc. rect & magische auge, 2 dial lamps, 2 I.F.s, AC, speaker, tranny > [no stink mentioned] , presently <$30, tho the Shipping's a bit high from > Hot Springs, I think. Could be a cinch fix. Could use a back and coil ant. > I saw the "completely restored" on the fifth pass, nyuck, nyuck! These are great radios. They have a propensity for bad power xfmrs but since this one at least makes noise its a good start. No back or "coil antenna", Jimmy. I'm re-refurbing mine with the intention of finding it a new home in the next month or two. Hate to see it go but I hate more not having any space in the shaque :( -Bill Article: 326250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Strange Picture In NY Times References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> <1132321119.804123.109970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132327198.711897.172760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132332597.692990.167000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nt2t8a3svf581@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:05:54 GMT Hagstar wrote: > Arguing over who has the better invisible friend is insane. Religion > needs to be purged from all the governments and public schools of the > world (starting here in the US), burned out with a white flame of > righteous secular humanism, before we go entirely into the toilet. The Chinese government has the right idea about education. From birth until they are 18, the children are PROPERTY of the State. The parents, can and are charged if they "damage" said property. Religion is specifically prohibited from being tought to a minor. However, if by the time they're eighteen, they choose to follow a religion, that's fine. > Otherwise next we'll be faced with things like Faith Based Engineering > (why do testing to design a plane or a skyscraper when prayer can > provide all the right figures?"). We already have that. Re-read some of the technical explanations given on this group. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Zenith 8-S-463 Dial Cord - Solution Found! Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <437E9125.8030907@SPAMMERSatt.net> In <437E9125.8030907@SPAMMERSatt.net> Hagstar writes: >Ziggy Zaggy wrote: >> Found the correct one in a Culligan Water Softener >> replacement o-ring p/n OR-34. >One of the reasons I am certain the world makes no sense is that it has >never taken me more than ten minutes to disassemble the drive and >install a properly sized INTACT O-ring (Cuno Whole House water filter >housing). It sure is easier and likely longer lasting than the ones I >glued up in the past. You made a believer out of me. For some unknown reason, when I last replaced a belt on this particular Zenith, I, too was amongst the unwashed masses who looked at it and said "Naaaah... I'm just gonna glue the belt." Lo and behold, ten years later when it finally snapped, Mr. Hagstar's wagging finger burned bright in my memory. John's right -- it takes mere minutes to pull out the shafts so you can slip an intact belt in place. The glued one DID last ten years, but, still. Have no fear! Of course, the only O-ring I had lying about was a wee bit tight. I really, really, have to go get the correct size. I'm feeling guilty about this as I type. If it's not one thing it's another! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:17:19 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Strange Picture In NY Times References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> <1132321119.804123.109970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132327198.711897.172760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132332597.692990.167000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nt2t8a3svf581@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <905ec$437e9942$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Hagstar wrote: > > Arguing over who has the better invisible friend is insane. Religion > needs to be purged from all the governments and public schools of the > world (starting here in the US), burned out with a white flame of > righteous secular humanism, before we go entirely into the toilet. > Otherwise next we'll be faced with things like Faith Based Engineering > (why do testing to design a plane or a skyscraper when prayer can > provide all the right figures?"). > > John H. > Wheew! Thats one point of view. Since we Westerners live in what we consider a civilised society where moderation and tolerance is at least the quoted order of the day we have the luxury of being able to TEACH religion(s) rather than impose it - technically or socially. I look at these towel-headed murderers much like I view the KKK. Our US society created the KKK, dealt with them for a while, and now there's only a few of them left hanging out behind the gas station because 'normal' people don't want that crap happening. To that end I expect the society of the home countries of these new radicals to do something of the same. We (The West) can't force it on them...and from so many accounts they aren't such a bother to their own folks. The recent murder spree in Jordan may go a way in changing that. That presumes that the inner soul of the Muslim world doesn't quietly support these modern murderers like Christianity did the Crusaders 700 years ago. There's little evidence for this argument pro or con...other than the past 30 years of attacking innocents with no fear of reprisal or condemnation from their peers. Hmmmm. I think we're in it for the long haul. -Bill Article: 326253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:18:45 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> David Stinson wrote: > ...Since you are a UPS customer, we want to give you advance notice of > new UPS rates that will take effect January 2, 2006. You can click here > by December 12, 2005 to request a reminder e-mail when the new rates go > into effect and the 2006 UPS Rate and Service Guide is available on > ups.com®. They're just doing that to keep up with the USPS rate increase because they have the opportunity to get away with it :( -Bill Article: 326254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Receiving tube data online? + buffer caps? Message-ID: <617tn1he68qnmv1rmp1jul7ssooqu4geo8@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:34:23 GMT Is there an online version of the old printed receiving tube manuals as published by RCA, Sylvania, etc? I've acquired a big stash of old tubes, and would like to sort them by category. Some, of course, I'm familiar with, and others, particularly some of the later TV types, are a complete mystery. There are also some military tubes with JAN numbers. My other question is about buffer capacitors used on the secondary of the vibrator transformer in a car radio. What is the recommended current replacement? If I find a 1 kV rated ceramic disc cap, is that an acceptable replacement? Gordon Richmond Article: 326255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: "Completely Restored" But Not Working References: <11nt06ciii6jhb5@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:53:08 -0600 Bill wrote: > These are great radios. yeah - even I took a second look - until I realized it was the 724 vs. it's big brother - still - very nice radio. I'd like to get a second D727 with good tuning gears as spares... - they not only have a propensity for eating power transformers - but the motor gears as well (why the the heck did they make the tuning gears so flimsy?). -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David G. Nagel" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:34:50 GMT Bill wrote: > David Stinson wrote: > >> ...Since you are a UPS customer, we want to give you advance notice of >> new UPS rates that will take effect January 2, 2006. You can click >> here by December 12, 2005 to request a reminder e-mail when the new >> rates go into effect and the 2006 UPS Rate and Service Guide is >> available on ups.com®. > > > They're just doing that to keep up with the USPS rate increase because > they have the opportunity to get away with it :( > > -Bill Actually by law UPS and its competitors must charge three (3) times what the Post Office charges for its priority packages and letters. UPS would love to reduce its rates. It would mean more business for them. Dave N Article: 326257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Ain't That Specular.... Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:06:09 -0700 Message-ID: <15732-437EB2C1-40@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <5f7da$437e7d4f$4232bdab$15915@COQUI.NET> Apparently not every radio in Twin Falls can be had for $10 or less. -Bill Nope .. Zenith waltons cost 15$ :-) Article: 326258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: "Completely Restored" But Not Working Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:17:24 -0700 Message-ID: <15731-437EB564-184@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I have one of these that turned out wonderfull . After it was all restored , back in its case & i was using it the power transformer shorted out one evening right in front of me . Randy Do you have a motor version in unrestored condition ? Article: 326259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 01:27:06 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Ain't That Specular.... References: <5f7da$437e7d4f$4232bdab$15915@COQUI.NET> <15732-437EB2C1-40@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Ken G. wrote: > Apparently not every radio in Twin Falls can be had for $10 or less. > -Bill > > > Nope .. Zenith waltons cost 15$ :-) > Inflation. -Bill Article: 326260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: "Completely Restored" But Not Working References: <15731-437EB564-184@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:42:11 -0600 Ken G. wrote: > Randy Do you have a motor version in unrestored condition ? Yes - as found. One of the few radios I kept when I "thinned" my collection a while back. Like everything else - I'll "get to it" eventually... . There's a picture of it here - about 7/8 of the way down the page... http://www.mississippi.net/~comcents/radio.html Best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:45:18 +0900 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> "David G. Nagel" wrote in message news:KXxff.1037$Y%5.967@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... > Bill wrote: >> David Stinson wrote: >> >>> ...Since you are a UPS customer, we want to give you advance notice of >>> new UPS rates that will take effect January 2, 2006. You can click here >>> by December 12, 2005 to request a reminder e-mail when the new rates go >>> into effect and the 2006 UPS Rate and Service Guide is available on >>> ups.com®. >> >> >> They're just doing that to keep up with the USPS rate increase because >> they have the opportunity to get away with it :( >> >> -Bill > > > Actually by law UPS and its competitors must charge three (3) times what > the Post Office charges for its priority packages and letters. UPS would > love to reduce its rates. It would mean more business for them. > I'd like to see that in writing. For domestic shipping, FedEx is often cheaper than USPS (I don't have the option of using FedEx or UPS, since I'm at a military APO). The upside of this is, if I DID use FedEx for US shipping, it would cost me over $200 for a 20lb parcel.. but USPS charges only for shipping from San Francisco to any point stateside. Article: 326262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 01:47:30 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132115782.535658.195650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132156301.469750.274560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7jlnn1lt1r9tc0cn5c97n72k71ta7tbm7a@4ax.com> <1132240174.110094.79680@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nqc83ct5a0fd3@corp.supernews.com> <_mwff.9805$uC3.1068@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: Andy Cuffe wrote: > On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 02:47:22 GMT, "Keith Park" > wrote: > > >>Western Union is a GIANT red flag that there is a Scammer involved. >> >>Keith > > > Where's the scam? You go into the Western Union place and walk out > with cash. Who cares what happens to the radio after that point since > they can't get their money back. > > Andy Cuffe The "scam" aviso is addressed to people *SENDING* WU transfers for just the reason Andy describes. He *could* send you payment via WU and you never send him the radio and he'd have zero recourse. And thats why scammers play the WU game. For the record its not necessarily a 2-way street. Here in the US we can collect a payment with little ado. Just show up at a big supermarket that handles WU and walk out with cash. I once sent a WU payment to a guy in Germany who simply could not collect his money (the Post Office there was the redemption point) because his identity wasn't up to snuff. He even renewed his passport in the process and they still wouldn't pay off! There's probably more to the story but the point is made. If a foreign buyer is enamoured enough with your Philco 70 and accepts the associated shipping expense its not too much to insist on a WU payment. Don't consider that as a pass-thru on your obligation as a seller. Be obliged to pack the man's purchase as if it were to be drop-kicked thru a dozen intermediate handlers...because it will be. -Bill Article: 326263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 01:59:36 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <4eb6$437ebf4b$4232bdab$9004@COQUI.NET> Brenda Ann wrote: > > I'd like to see that in writing. For domestic shipping, FedEx is often > cheaper than USPS (I don't have the option of using FedEx or UPS, since I'm > at a military APO). The upside of this is, if I DID use FedEx for US > shipping, it would cost me over $200 for a 20lb parcel.. but USPS charges > only for shipping from San Francisco to any point stateside. > > I think he meant that as a joke :) Since I'm a fellow Zone 8'er it irks me to no end when some schmuck in New York or PA wants to charge me more (I'm in Puerto Rico) when the cost to most anywhere west of the Rockies costs the same. Often its less to here than to The West. A question, Bren...do they do the 7.70 Flat Rate Priority for APO addresses? They do here but I consistently have guys quoting $10-20 for priority mail for small heavy stuff because they don't know the system...or they believe what the goofy postal clerk told them :) -Bill Article: 326264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 120VAC, bayonet base light bulbs? From: Wayne Boatwright References: <1132241545.127204.162230@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132253494.940212.224790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132256204.569206.30920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1132270160.168989.56770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: 19 Nov 2005 07:58:30 +0100 On Thu 17 Nov 2005 04:29:20p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it frenchy? > Related - I have an old glass clock and a Spuds Mackensie lamp that use > little screw-in 4 watt bulbs (the night light kind). Anybody know of > an LED/diffused replacement for these, or some kind of heavy-duty > version? These darn things burn out left and right on me and they > aren't even ever turned off, the heat just kills them after a few > months. Or any LED type bulb at all that is made for 120v regardless > of the socket? thanks You can get the same sort of 4 watt or 7 watt bulb rated for 130v. It will last much longer. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________________________ A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken! Article: 326265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:18:33 +0900 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <4eb6$437ebf4b$4232bdab$9004@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:4eb6$437ebf4b$4232bdab$9004@COQUI.NET... > > A question, Bren...do they do the 7.70 Flat Rate Priority for APO > addresses? They do here but I consistently have guys quoting $10-20 for > priority mail for small heavy stuff because they don't know the > system...or they believe what the goofy postal clerk told them :) Yep, sure do.. and the other size Flat Rate boxes as well. Know what you mean about soaking you on shipping.. I see them all the time that want to add heavy extra charges to ship to APO/FPO (even when their normal shipping is via USPS!!). There was one seller I saw the other day with a SMALL ITEM (think it was a friggin' piece of software) that wanted to charge an EXTRA $30 on top of his already ludicrous $15 shipping cost to ship to me.. and he shipped only via USPS Priority mail. I steer clear of those sorts of crooks. Article: 326266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:41:56 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <4eb6$437ebf4b$4232bdab$9004@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Brenda Ann wrote: > normal shipping is via USPS!!). There was one seller I saw the other day > with a SMALL ITEM (think it was a friggin' piece of software) that wanted to > charge an EXTRA $30 on top of his already ludicrous $15 shipping cost to > ship to me.. and he shipped only via USPS Priority mail. I steer clear of > those sorts of crooks. Know 'em well. Of course that extra $30 is justified for the "extra paperwork" :-) A pox on these sellers that think US postal rates end at "Conus 48" I think most of these "Conus 48" guys are just clueless and parrot what they hear others saying. -Bill Article: 326267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:43:37 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: FS: 1950 Silvertone AM radio References: <1132318891.113857.269250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1132381079.252595.196940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <59377$437ed7ab$4232bd07$12184@COQUI.NET> RadioGary wrote: > Wow, this is a nice set. This is the type I pick up at flea markets > for a dollar or two, hike the tubes, and pitch the case. Good luck. > Thats the spirit, Gary. Make a buck! -Bill Article: 326268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tasp" Subject: Australian Vintage Radios Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:08:45 +1100 Message-ID: <437edd8e$1@news.eftel.com> Just put some new radio pics on my old Aussie radio site. Thought someone might like to take a wander around! http://www.southcom.com.au/~pauledgr/ Article: 326269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: "Completely Restored" But Not Working References: <11nt06ciii6jhb5@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:32:50 -0600 Mark Oppat wrote: > nobody mentioned these are really Detrola made sets, and one of their best! > Similar sets sold under the Silvertone name with different tubes. I guess maybe it's time to run the Detrola / Truetone cross - and see if anyone has updates... First the D724s and D727s - There are three 724's - One from 1934 - which doesn't have a 6G5 eye tube and is not a Detrola. That leaves us with two 724s that are Detrolas - the D-724 from 1938 and the D724U - the easiest way to tell them apart is the rectifier - the D724 uses an 80 -while the 724U uses a 25Z5... As I've noted before - the D-727 is a console in a table box - weighing in at 22"W by 12"H x 10"D and approximately 27 pounds - it is a beast. Has ten pushbuttons that activate a power (AC Motor) driven tuning system to tune the various stations. Both 727s were made by Detrola - and each is like the Detrola model 175 and 195. The 175 is the economy model (if that's possible in this size set!) it has 8 tubes. The 195 is the "got it all box" that has 9 tubes -- the 75 detector is replaced by a 6Q7 - but the 75 is still on the chassis - now serving as a noise blanker. The other "big" feature is a very large socket on the chassis where the remote control plug goes(!). Both of the Truetone 727 versions carry a tag on the back of the chassis that shows Made By D. R. Corp. Detroit. Chassis 175 (or) Chassis 195. While the 724 (1938) and the 724U are electrically similar to the 727 - they are somewhat smaller and lighter - and in the case of chassis 195 - a tube short... And yes - these are very, very nice radios. As long as we're updating - here is another "slug" of Detrola made Truetones (disclaimer- these are "my opinion" but so far not disputed - but as with all internet "wares" - use with caution - and corrections welcomed!) the 690 series: D690 Console by Detrola. 10 P/B pwr tune. 14 tubes. 4-6D6; 6A7; 6H6; 2-76; 4-42; 80; 6G5. D691 Console by Detrola 8 P/B pwr tune. 11 tubes 6A7; 6D6; 6Q7; 2-76; 4-42; 80; 6G5 D691-D Console Similar to Detrola 191. 11 tubes 6A7; 6D6; 6Q7; 2-76; 4-42; 80 6G5 D692 (early) Cons Similar to Detrola 155. 11 tubes 2-6K7; 6A7; 6H6; 6C5; 2-76; 2-42; 80; 6G5 D692 (late) Cons 12" spkr; 11 tubes; 3-6D6; 6A7; 3-76; 2-42; 80; 6G5 D694 Cons similar to Detrola 163 2-12" spkrs; 15 tubes; 3-6K7; 6A7; 6H6; 4-76; 4-42; 5Z3; 6G5 D695 (1936) big console (pos not detrola) (up to) three spkrs; 13 tubes 4-6K7; 6H6; 3-6C5; 2-6L6; 2-5Z4; 6G5 D697 Cons w/phono option; Teledial; 11 tubes: 2-6K7; 2-6J7; 6H6; 2-6C5; 2-6F6; 5Y3; 6G5 D698 Cons Teledial; 8 tubes: 6J7; 6K7; 6Q7; 6C5; 2-6F6; 5Y3; 6G5 D699 (1937) 6" speaker (not a console???) 6A8; 6K7; 6Q7; 6C5; 2-6F6; 5Y3; 6G5 And of course - there are likely more... anyone knows - feel free to add to this list!. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 326270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:09:22 GMT A genuine, original factory-made AK Model 8080. Only 100 made. Too bad the photos kinda suck. DD Article: 326271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" References: Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Message-ID: <6NDff.128160$zb5.59534@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:13:06 GMT "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:CJDff.128141$zb5.22535@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > A genuine, original factory-made AK Model 8080. Only 100 made. > > Too bad the photos kinda suck. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ATWATER-KENT-BREAD-BOARD_W0QQitemZ6580680132QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > DD > > Article: 326272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:29:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET... > David Stinson wrote: > >> ...Since you are a UPS customer, we want to give you advance notice of >> new UPS rates that will take effect January 2, 2006. You can click here >> by December 12, 2005 to request a reminder e-mail when the new rates go >> into effect and the 2006 UPS Rate and Service Guide is available on >> ups.com®. > > They're just doing that to keep up with the USPS rate increase because > they have the opportunity to get away with it :( last time i checked gas prices have went up too and these things dont deliver themselves... but i dont ship all that much. maybe theres already been a hike for that. randy Article: 326273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 04:44:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: welcome to the modern era. where EVERYTHING is a limited edition collectable and available on ebay!!! randy >A genuine, original factory-made AK Model 8080. Only 100 made. > > Too bad the photos kinda suck. > > > DD > > Article: 326274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Shipping a Philco 70 to Spain? Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:38:05 -0500 Message-ID: <11nu75i1g8imcbd@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132033282.159336.68310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132115782.535658.195650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132156301.469750.274560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7jlnn1lt1r9tc0cn5c97n72k71ta7tbm7a@4ax.com> <1132240174.110094.79680@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132257197.699820.221390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nqc83ct5a0fd3@corp.supernews.com> <_mwff.9805$uC3.1068@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Andy Cuffe wrote: > > > > Where's the scam? It's a flag there is a scam on the SELLER'S end. So buyers should be wary of using it. He asked what the problems were with WU, I was just answering. There's no issue for the SELLER, except they might be perceived as Nigerian. John H. Article: 326275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: Subject: Re: How a "fat finger" ruined a radio! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:42:54 GMT Greyhound shows 100 lbs as the weight limit online, but IIRC, they have rate schedules for items weighing more. If you have an item weighing more than 100 lbs, call your nearest terminal to see if they will accept it, before assuming they won't. Article: 326276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Strange Picture In NY Times Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:48:52 -0500 Message-ID: <11nu7pppbpvur48@corp.supernews.com> References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> <1132321119.804123.109970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132327198.711897.172760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132332597.692990.167000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nt2t8a3svf581@corp.supernews.com> <905ec$437e9942$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> Bill wrote: > we have the luxury of being able to TEACH > religion(s) rather than impose it - technically or socially. I used to think so- but right now an aggressive anti-science agenda from our own Bible Thugs is at work destroying the minds of the next generation. You can't teach religion as science and not damage general reasoning capability. It's too late for anything but taking away ALL the children's toys. That doesn't mean toys are wrong, just that the fighting over them has become intolerable. DID I mention Scriptural Terrorists also believe that the sooner we can bring on a nuclear war in the Mideast, and the Rapture to follow, the better ? What a cop out- as JFK said "Here on this earth God's work must truly be our own.". John H. Article: 326277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: How a "fat finger" ruined a radio! References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:59:15 -0500 AND DON'T USE UPS! Ken Mark Oppat wrote: > Sometimes you guys type badly, and mangle model #'s in your postings. Here > is a sad tale where a "fat finger" on the keyboard ruined a nice radio! > > my buddy Dan Gutowski sold a real nice near mint, restored chassis, Airline > Movie Dial console, 13 tuber to a fan of quality consoles in Florida. Dan > packed it very carefully. It goes out UPS. > > He accidently gave Dan his address with the last of four digits wrong. The > radio got delivered to that address, and the occupant refused it (he only > lived a few doors away but didnt know the correct recipient). Rather than > make a simple phone call to check where the box should go, 100 feet away, > the UPS guys throw it back on the truck and return it back to Dan here in > Michigan. But on the way back (we assume) the box gets manhandled in the > worst way, corners bashed, holes in it, etc. Inside, the radio is all > bashed up. > > Watch your fat fingers... and, use Greyhound Bus for consoles if possible. > 100 lb weight limit (if you need to, remove the speaker and most consoles > will pass that). The item goes into a bus compartment, and stays on the > same bus or two all the way. No trucks, no conveyor belts. the driver > handles it with a hand truck if needed. The price is very fair, too. Only > thing is your recipient must pick it up at nearest Greyhound station. Pack > it well, anyways. > > just a note as we go into heavy eBay season. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 326278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:09:50 GMT Gee, starting bid at $1500? I know there are some of us on this list who have built their own breadboards; being one of a kind they're quite a bit more rare. Maybe we can get together and build/sell a few of these and become millionaires. While we're at it, as long as they're using miniature tubes instead of breadboard-era types, why don't we make ours with a couple of IC's? They're much more reliable; we could offer a 50 year warranty! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:CJDff.128141$zb5.22535@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >A genuine, original factory-made AK Model 8080. Only 100 made. > > Too bad the photos kinda suck. > > > DD > > Article: 326279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:04:22 -0500 What a crock of ****. He's trying to cash in on 'breadboard mania'. Would you buy a car from this guy? I'm surprised he can use the AK name for his scam. Ken DumpsterDiver wrote: > A genuine, original factory-made AK Model 8080. Only 100 made. > > Too bad the photos kinda suck. > > > DD > > Article: 326280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are Shippers Getting Worse? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:19:03 GMT Now that we've got a nice long thread of whiners and belly-achers, allow me to tell my experiences with UPS: I send and receive vintage car radios on a daily basis, and have been doing so for almost 10 years (my how time flies!). About twice a month I receive a radio that was damaged in shipment. The story is always the same -- I get a small box that looks like a piece of softside luggage, one that obviously has been reused at least 30 times, and wrapped in duck tape or masking tape. As I go to pick it up, I can fell the radio flopping around inside, and I notice two small holes poked into one side. I open the box to find a radio that's hardly smaller than the box, with little or no packing, and with the knob shafts bent or broken off. In the past I've given a pass on UPS, but recently I've realized that it may be their fault for accepting such idiotic packaging in the first place! By code they are not supposed to accept duck tape or inappropriate packages. But then I receive a lot of liquor boxes and UPS is not supposed to accept them either. As for UPS-fault shipping problems, in all these years I've had a grand total of three. The first was a 64 Thunderbird AM/FM radio that -- the good news -- was shot and was sent to me (from Honolulu) for my boneyard. What I got was a large garbage bag; inside were pieces of a box, packing, and the radio itself -- all soaking wet. We had a good laugh, figuring that's what we get for shipping ground from Hawaii! The second was a radio that was converted and returned to the customer. The customer opened the box and found no radio, but some travel brochures for South America! Somehow the label had come off and was stuck onto the wrong box -- this is hard to do because I always secure these labels with clear packing tape, and to get it off you literally have to cut off the top flap of the box. When several visits to his local UPS facility turned up nothing, I initiated a claim for loss. While being processed I located another radio and was about to start another conversion, but he was "so depressed over this" that he only wanted his money back -- the radio was a gift from a friend and irreplaceable, and he started to accuse me of keeping the radio myself and deliberately causing the problem for personal gain. Of course this leads me to believe that he may have received the radio and wants his money back through a claim. In any case my only offering is to process the claim, and refund him the value of the radio. Just as UPS sent the check out, suddenly they found the radio in good condition. The check is still in my file. The third claim: I converted a radio from a 64 Lincoln. When the customer received it back, the box was badly smashed, like an accordion. The radio had a knob shaft that was a little bent and the knob was scratched. I purchased a replacement knob, disassembled the radio and was able to get the shaft bent back, and sent it on its way. I made a claim to UPS which included the knob, the retail labor involved to fix it, and reshipping, coming to around $120 (the radio was insured for $600). They made a fuss, asking me over and again why the claim was so high for an AM radio. After getting nowhere I asked if I could get in touch with the insurance underwriter -- surprisingly I immediately got a name and phone number. I called, and a very nice lady answered. She explained the questions regarding why an AM radio would draw such a claim. I told her it was an original radio from a 64 Lincoln. Slight pause, then she said "check's in the mail." Bottom line, use reasonable care when packing. When in doubt, take it to a UPS store or similar. Observe how they do it -- usually a radio gets wrapped in bubble-wrap, then placed in a box with packing peanuts. Wrapped properly, things will be just fine. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1132276183.132666.11590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This is getting to be a bit hard to believe, so pardon me while I vent > my frustrations to the radio collectors online. I just received a > notice (just through UPS tracking online) that my most recent purchase > on Ebay was "damaged in shipping," and didn't even reach my door. > Notice is being sent to the shipper. I can just imagine the Zenith > tombstone I was going to own in pieces thanks to UP dropanddumpit S. > About a month ago, I had another set shipped from a location less than > 100 miles from my home. This one reached my home not in pieces, but > obviously damaged and not like the description online. Refunded one > hundred percent, but no radio. Several months before that I received a > damaged Philco model 70 thanks to UPS, but partially due to poor > packing on the shippers side. Accepted a partial refund and kept the > set which was restorable. That makes three in a row shipped by UPS, > bought on Ebay. Has anyone else had noticable issues with UPS, or is > it my fault for choosing people who don't know how to pack? > Article: 326281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:26:05 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT-Strange Picture In NY Times References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> <1132321119.804123.109970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132327198.711897.172760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132332597.692990.167000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11nt2t8a3svf581@corp.supernews.com> <905ec$437e9942$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <11nu7pppbpvur48@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <69499$437f3600$4232bd9b$18392@COQUI.NET> Hagstar wrote: > Bill wrote: > >> we have the luxury of being able to TEACH religion(s) rather than >> impose it - technically or socially. > > > I used to think so- but right now an aggressive anti-science agenda from > our own Bible Thugs is at work destroying the minds of the next > generation. You can't teach religion as science and not damage general > reasoning capability. Hooey. It gets a lot of press but thats about all. Truth be known, relatively little of anything is being taught these days and thats a much bigger symptom of the problems with our educational system. I see the issue, and no offence to you John, as another card in the hand of the anti-Bush people who are trying to paint the President with some evil-intended evangelical 'rightism' because the moral people of the country overwhelmingly voted for him instead of Kerry. I think this is another in the list of examples of loser-bellyaching being done by the Dems whose strongest suit these days seems to be promoting bashing as a political platform rather than coming up with viable candidates of their own. -ex Article: 326282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Strange Picture In NY Times Message-ID: References: <11nrintqh9qamd1@corp.supernews.com> <1132321119.804123.109970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132327198.711897.172760@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132332597.692990.167000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:58:30 -0500 On 18 Nov 2005 09:02:14 -0800, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Oh, they are far worse than that. They are Fanatics. > >And, at whatever level, and of whatever stripe, Fanatics cause more >harm and heartache than disease, plague, storm or flood. For them, >their cause is personal, not amenable to reason, and defiant of logic. >Sadly, those who actually deliver the bombs (for the most part) either >in Atlanta or London or Bagdhad are typically not those who make/made >it happen. Those sorts of people hide behind their pulpits, microphones >or fatwas spreading bile in the name of whatever form of >"righteousness" they abuse. Typically they are the first-causes for >war, terrorism, bigotry, racism and whatever other -isms and -ologies >are at the centers of human misery. That they flourish in an atmosphere >of indifference if not ignorance and oppression should be well known by >now, but sadly it appears that these days we (as a species) are engaged >in a "Fanatic Race" much as in the past it was an Arms Race, only all >nations and peoples may participate in this one irrespective of their >wealth and power. > > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA What a line of total bull! Article: 326283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:01:08 -0600 "Ken" wrote in message news:VhGff.34344$2k5.3521@dukeread09... > What a crock of ****. He's trying to cash in on 'breadboard mania'. Would > you buy a car from this guy? I'm surprised he can use the AK name for his > scam. Ken > > DumpsterDiver wrote: > >> A genuine, original factory-made AK Model 8080. Only 100 made. >> >> Too bad the photos kinda suck. >> >> >> DD >> >> > It looks like shit too. AK would never use knot ridden pine for a base. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: How a "fat finger" ruined a radio! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:03:46 -0600 "Ken" wrote in message news:RkFff.34341$2k5.10679@dukeread09... > AND DON'T USE UPS! Ken > Theres nothing wrong with UPS as long as you dont ship with their bulk service. Put a $1000 Ins on your Items and you get special handling. Simple! -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: How a "fat finger" ruined a radio! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:04:03 -0800 Being an ex-employee.... I second the vote... not for the package handling (which is no great) but for how they treat employees. Note that this is my opinion, of which I am entitled to express( should the big brown be watching) "Ken" wrote in message news:RkFff.34341$2k5.10679@dukeread09... > AND DON'T USE UPS! Ken > > Mark Oppat wrote: > >> Sometimes you guys type badly, and mangle model #'s in your postings. >> Here >> is a sad tale where a "fat finger" on the keyboard ruined a nice radio! >> >> my buddy Dan Gutowski sold a real nice near mint, restored chassis, >> Airline >> Movie Dial console, 13 tuber to a fan of quality consoles in Florida. >> Dan >> packed it very carefully. It goes out UPS. >> >> He accidently gave Dan his address with the last of four digits wrong. >> The >> radio got delivered to that address, and the occupant refused it (he only >> lived a few doors away but didnt know the correct recipient). Rather >> than >> make a simple phone call to check where the box should go, 100 feet away, >> the UPS guys throw it back on the truck and return it back to Dan here in >> Michigan. But on the way back (we assume) the box gets manhandled in >> the >> worst way, corners bashed, holes in it, etc. Inside, the radio is all >> bashed up. >> >> Watch your fat fingers... and, use Greyhound Bus for consoles if >> possible. >> 100 lb weight limit (if you need to, remove the speaker and most consoles >> will pass that). The item goes into a bus compartment, and stays on the >> same bus or two all the way. No trucks, no conveyor belts. the driver >> handles it with a hand truck if needed. The price is very fair, too. Only >> thing is your recipient must pick it up at nearest Greyhound station. >> Pack >> it well, anyways. >> >> just a note as we go into heavy eBay season. >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> >> > Article: 326286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437F4E10.7080105@nucleus.com> From: Ken Subject: FS: RCA 807,808, 810 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:08:57 GMT I have two each of following 807,808 and 810 WestingHouse 810's,RCA 808's and National 807's I believe these all be be new or in excellent condition in original boxes. All offers will be considered. Thanks Ken Gold 403-239-4956