Article: 328830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Telefuken tube adaptors References: <3pkvf.12198$hI1.7861@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 03:46:47 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > I have to admit, those Telefunken tubes are really goofy. Speaking of which. Anybody have an extra rim-lock socket? It sort of looks like a Loctal socket. (See picture in link) I hear it's about as reliable. ;-) http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/photos/030/e/EAF41.jpg Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:08:49 -0500 Message-ID: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> And the starting bid, BuyItNow, and shipping are clearly plucked from someone's derrière. BUT it *is* neat- http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Ornate-Heavily-Carved-Cherub-Radio-Cabinet_W0QQitemZ6592545243 John H. Article: 328832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Sylvania Oscilloscope Type 131 schematic. Date: 7 Jan 2006 04:34:41 GMT Message-ID: References: Alan Douglas writes: >Hi >>Anyone have a schematic for this old (1950-ish) scope? Or a link? > Did you ever get a reply? The schematic is in Rider's >"Encyclopedia" of scopes, and I could xerox the page if you need it. >Alan Thanks for the offer, but, yes, a kind Useneter emailed me the schematic. It has been very helpful. Regards, Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 328833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site? Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:19:28 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1136603660.054375.266180@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Geoff wrote: > Anyone know whose website these are from? I'm sure they are not of the > one being offered. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6242672049 > > Geoff > Yup....... http://www.antiqueradio.org/philc12.htm Phil, time to fire another one off to eBay for picture theft. (Fraud?) -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site? Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 23:48:42 -0600 Message-ID: <21513-43BF563A-1458@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I could be mistaken,but a few years ago,I think I read somewhere on the internet that "Predicta" tv sets are going to be reproduced in the same style (as far as looks is concerned) as the old Philco Predicta tv sets,but with modern parts and technology. cuhulin Article: 328835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Philco 38-116 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 23:58:50 -0600 Spotted a Philco 38-116 in an antique shop not too far away, at what I think is a good price. But I'm curious to know how well the acoustic resonators worked in these things, with the open back? Or is the radio supposed to have a closed back? Cheers, Nelson Article: 328836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site? Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 23:59:34 -0600 Message-ID: <21514-43BF58C6-370@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: If you will check out www.mini-itx.com you will see where somebody modded a Telefunken radio into a computer and somebody made a Mantle radio computer from scratch. cuhulin Article: 328837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? References: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 06:07:14 GMT Hagstar wrote: > And the starting bid, BuyItNow, and shipping are clearly plucked from > someone's derrière. BUT it *is* neat- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Ornate-Heavily-Carved-Cherub-Radio-Cabinet_W0QQitemZ6592545243 > > > John H. > Hideous!!! I wouldn't pay 50 cents. Best Regards, DAve Article: 328838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Searching data for Mullard MF31-95 (CV1869, 12T01A) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:42:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: Phil Nelson wrote > Wonderful tube. I would pay extra for that container! > > You could try contacting Steve McVoy at the Early Television Foundation, > http://www.earlytelevision.org/ . > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > Hi Phil, good idea: I could offer tube and container separately on ebay ;-) (Just one of my usual jokes) Many thanks for the link to Steve McVoy! Kind Regards Georg http://www.radiomuseum.org/collection/georg_richter.html BTW, http://www.radiomuseum.org/ shows more and more American radios. Article: 328839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 08:24:54 -0500 "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:PKIvf.482$ve2.304@fe23.lga... > Spotted a Philco 38-116 in an antique shop not too far away, at what I think > is a good price. But I'm curious to know how well the acoustic resonators > worked in these things, with the open back? Or is the radio supposed to > have a closed back? > Cheers, > Nelson > Closed back. But, the thin cabinet walls on consoles of that vintage didn't do much for the sound quality either. Given the AM medium, and quality of the broadcasts, the 38-116 probably sounded as good, or better, than anything else comparably priced in it's day. Pete Article: 328840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 08:27:24 -0500 All of those faces and gargoyles peering out of the woodwork would give me the heebie jeepies! Shades of Marley's Ghost!! Brrrrrr! Peter Article: 328841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1136231511.871758.146840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1136253045.675380.137500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136342001.650364.192550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Shortwave Broadcasts for Your Old Radio? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:54:49 GMT I don't want to turn this thread into a political rant, but I know exactly what you're saying and I totally agree -- those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. I find the events of World War II to be very fascinating. Of course there are plenty of people who love to study the Civil War, the Revolutionary War, and others, but to me the second world war stands out -- partly because it falls within the time period of my favorite radios, but also because the events of this war really come alive when listening to the OTR broadcasts. It's one thing to read about D-Day in a history book; it's quite another to listen to CBS News report it as it's happening. Of course there are people a little older than myself who can say they experienced it firsthand, but in truth they heard the exact same thing I did when listening to the broadcast. The only difference is that I could leave the light on in the room, and that I already know the outcome. When studying history, one learns that things really haven't changed all that much over time. When our country's founders decided to break away from England and form our own independent country, only about a third of the population was in favor of doing it. Another third wanted to remain an English colony, and the rest didn't really care. When George Washington gave his inaugural speech, people complained that we gave up George the Third for George the First. The signers of the Declaration of Independence had their families killed and homes destroyed. The end result is our present day United States. However we must remember that history wasn't a certain place in time that happened once and is now over; the problems continue to this day. We've had plenty of other wars, and in every case the purpose has been to protect this country by ending tyranny either here or elsewhere. In every case some people have protested, saying that living in fear or tyranny is better than having soldiers killed in a war. Be your own judge. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1136342001.650364.192550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: >> >> > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> > >> >>Anybody able to copy this properly? And record it? >> > >> > >> > I suppose it has some macabre curiosity factor. >> >> To learn from history, you have to listen to both sides. > > Maybe I'm hopelessly unable to put myself in the mindset of a > Nazi propogandist. Maybe the Nazi propogandist didn't know everything > that was going on in Buchenwald. But neither did Murrow till the > Allies marched in. > > I do listen to Murrow's broadcasts and compare it with the "don't > go to war, we have to remain neutral for prosperity" side and if I try > I think I can see both sides of that argument. Then try to > extrapolate to, for example, today's business in Iraq and whether we > should've gone there or not. That's enough of a stretch for me, because > the analogy is nowhere near exact. > > I do remember listening to Radio Albania in the 70's. Wow, that was > amazing. They continually bashed the Soviet Union for not being truly > communist enough! > > Tim. > Article: 328842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 09:44:30 -0500 Check the binaries. If my records are correct, that's a 116 back. Ken Nelson Gietz wrote: > Spotted a Philco 38-116 in an antique shop not too far away, at what I think > is a good price. But I'm curious to know how well the acoustic resonators > worked in these things, with the open back? Or is the radio supposed to > have a closed back? > Cheers, > Nelson > > Article: 328843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 14:44:52 GMT In article , ngietz@mts.net says... > > >Spotted a Philco 38-116 in an antique shop not too far away, at what I think >is a good price. But I'm curious to know how well the acoustic resonators >worked in these things, with the open back? Or is the radio supposed to >have a closed back? > Cheers, > Nelson > > Nelson... that is one hellava radio.... if you have never heard one you will really be amazed at it when its restored.... grab it if its at all reasonably priced.. Wife likes the 37 cabinet design better than the slope front 38... I like both of them... I just wish I could have found another chassis for that 37 that was up on fleabay a week ago..... I would have had it myself!... John k9uwa /w4 real close to Clermont, FL where that radio was located. Article: 328844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:01:51 -0500 Message-ID: <11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com> References: My Emerson DS-365 has a wood backed but highly vented cabinet. Nonetheless I can hear sound from the DIAL COVER moving with the air pressure waves inside the cabinet. The air can't get out fast enough, and exerts considerate pressure despite venting. SO, I retract my previous statements that the Acoustic Clarifiers can't do anything, they likely have a small but noticeable effect at higher volumes. John H. Article: 328845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:37:17 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:xtQvf.44587$Ou3.14070@dukeread09... > > Check the binaries. If my records are correct, that's a 116 back. Ken > What were you doing in my bedroom? Oops, that sounds bad... jim menning Article: 328846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1136556694.923079.170910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Experiments with LEDs &/or RFIDs Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:42:26 GMT "wagil" wrote in message news:1136556694.923079.170910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Does anyone have any experience using/experimenting with LEDs similar > to those being used in flashlights or auto lights? > You should be able to find a lot of user projects at the LED Museum website: http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/menutop.htm#8 > How about RFIDs? Anyone playing with these? Peopla are at this site: http://www.rfidgazette.org/2004/05/intel_demonstra.html jim menning Article: 328847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1136563654.261431.233700@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 2006 Early Television Convention Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 15:49:02 GMT "Steve McVoy" wrote in message news:1136563654.261431.233700@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The 2006 Early Television Convention will be held in Hilliard, OH on > April 28-30. Online registration is now available: > > http://www.earlytelevision.org/2006_convention.html > This is a great event for anyone interested in early television. You get to meet and talk with some of the most well-known people in the hobby, and share experiences and knowledge about early TV design and how to get those old sets working. And the collection that Steve and his helpers have put together over the years is truly amazing. You get to see many of the old sets actually working! Plan ahead now to put this in your spring schedule, it's well worth the trip, there's nothing else like it for the 'old TV' collectors. jim menning Article: 328848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:54:45 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com... > My Emerson DS-365 has a wood backed but highly vented cabinet. > Nonetheless I can hear sound from the DIAL COVER moving with the air > pressure waves inside the cabinet. The air can't get out fast enough, > and exerts considerate pressure despite venting. SO, I retract my > previous statements that the Acoustic Clarifiers can't do anything, they > likely have a small but noticeable effect at higher volumes. > > John H. > You'd likely benefit with a properly treated cryogenic rear radio cover.. Pete Article: 328849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:25:10 -0500 Message-ID: <11rvqr66m5n3fa5@corp.supernews.com> References: <11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com> Uncle Peter wrote: > > > You'd likely benefit with a properly treated cryogenic rear radio cover.. > > You bought one, Pete. John H. Article: 328850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:53:11 -0500 So that's where I got that pic. I was going to copy it for a 116 I restored, but sold the radio. I have another 116 ready for restoration, but I think I'll sell it. It's a great set to align, everything works like a charm, but I have no more rooooom. Ken jim menning wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message news:xtQvf.44587$Ou3.14070@dukeread09... > > > >>Check the binaries. If my records are correct, that's a 116 back. Ken >> > > > What were you doing in my bedroom? Oops, that sounds bad... > > > jim menning > > Article: 328851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:14:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > And the starting bid, BuyItNow, and shipping are clearly plucked from > someone's derrière. BUT it *is* neat- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Ornate-Heavily-Carved-Cherub-Radio-Cabinet _W0QQitemZ6592545243 > > John H. Maybe in the past this gaudy was the player for the pink cylinder of "42 Drawer Oak Cylinder Record Cabinet" ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6592535596 starting $1.250, one bid. Georg Article: 328852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ISH Subject: Re: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? Message-ID: References: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 17:30:30 GMT On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:14:28 +0100, "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: >Hagstar wrote: > >> And the starting bid, BuyItNow, and shipping are clearly plucked >from >> someone's derrière. BUT it *is* neat- >> >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Ornate-Heavily-Carved-Cherub-Radio-Cabinet > Looks like something my grandmother would have had........... Ish Article: 328853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Semi-OT... Mouser Electronics Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 11:35:29 -0600 Message-ID: <5555-43BFFBE1-43@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <6fc7125b9c71812b995d0c5e81c450ca@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> I wrote down their website.If I need any parts and if they have them,I will buy from them. cuhulin Article: 328854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com> <11rvqr66m5n3fa5@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 12:59:40 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11rvqr66m5n3fa5@corp.supernews.com... > > > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > > > > You'd likely benefit with a properly treated cryogenic rear radio cover.. > > > > > > You bought one, Pete. > > John H. > Not me. I'd never own an Emerson that had accostically deficient dial covers. Pete Article: 328855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:02:16 -0500 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Output-Adaptor-for-older-McIntosh-amps_W0QQitemZ58487155 20QQcategoryZ14968QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Nylon-gloves-for-handling-McIntosh-amps_W0QQitemZ5848712 095QQcategoryZ14968QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I was going to do more... just look at their 'store'. ~~Yikes~~ > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > The speaker cable adapters? I must get used to these salespitches, that one ***almost*** looks reasonable to me?? Peter Article: 328856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:07:09 -0800 Message-ID: References: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> ISH wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:14:28 +0100, "Georg Richter" > <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: > > >>Hagstar wrote: >> >> >>>And the starting bid, BuyItNow, and shipping are clearly plucked >> >>from >> >>>someone's derrière. BUT it *is* neat- >>> >>> >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Ornate-Heavily-Carved-Cherub-Radio-Cabinet >> > > Looks like something my grandmother would have had........... > Ish It would go well with some decors that are out of favor among interior designers now, such as the one in the pictures. I kinda liked it, until I saw the last photo. It might be worth something to someone who has the proper chassis, but that price is so far out of line that it will go begging for at least another century. Anybody know what kind of chassis actually went into that cabinet? -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site?ATT... Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 20:32:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <21514-43BF58C6-370@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin wrote: > If you will check out www.mini-itx.com you will see where somebody > modded a Telefunken radio into a computer and somebody made a Mantle > radio computer from scratch. > cuhulin same site: http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/bluebird/ I am missing there a mini Pee-C in an urinal ;-) Georg Article: 328858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site? ATTN: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:09:27 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1136603660.054375.266180@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > Thanks, Shawn, yes, that's my TV in two of the three photos. I made a fraud > report -- or sort of. It took a long time to find any page that would let me > submit a fraud report, and then it only allowed me to submit the auction > number: no explanation that the TV shown doesn't belong to the seller, or > where to find the original photos on my site. > > I don't know where they got the photo with the pink background and watermark > . . . perhaps from somebody else's auction. Not my TV, anyhow. > > If anybody knows a way to report fraud that allows you to give some details, > please let me know. > Well, I didn't find anything for fraud, but if you want eBay to really read her the riot act (sounds like she desperately needs it), You can fill out this form here: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/NOCI1.pdf Perfectly reasonable, they are your images, and she is using them in an unauthorized fashion and lying about it. I have already sent a less formal complaint to eBay's "copyright basics" section about her continued use of the photo from the tvhistory site.....that is also a copyrighted photo. Maybe eBay will finally pull the plug on this thing......It has more than the faint scent of fertilizer on it. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:54:44 -0500 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Output-Adaptor-for-older-McIntosh-amps_W0QQitemZ5848715520QQcategoryZ14968QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Nylon-gloves-for-handling-McIntosh-amps_W0QQitemZ5848712095QQcategoryZ14968QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I was going to do more... just look at their 'store'. ~~Yikes~~ > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Well, I was going to grab a pair of those gloves, until I noticed that they were only for Macintosh amps. I'm still looking for ones I can use with my Quad stuff. Frank Article: 328860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:47:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > Well, I was going to grab a pair of those gloves, until I noticed that they > were only for Macintosh amps. I'm still looking for ones I can use with my > Quad stuff. Frank, THAT's it! gloves with stitched manufacturer emblems. I have $$ in my eyes ... Dagobert (Georg) Article: 328861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Anyone feeling particularly generous (Where is Bill Gates when you need him?) :) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 07:02:39 +0900 Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6595037225 From jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net Sat Jan 7 21:27:32 EST 2006 Article: 328862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: js mcauley Reply-To: jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Clough Brengle CRA Oscilloscope Schematic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0601-3, 01/06/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 3 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:58:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.87.139.208 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1136681933 65.87.139.208 (Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:58:53 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 16:58:53 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!207.69.154.102.MISMATCH!elnk-atl-nf2!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!1800c27c!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328862 Anyone out there have a copy of the CRA Schematic they would be willing to share? Scott. Article: 328863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 00:58:57 GMT The gloves are not a bad idea at all. Gun and coin collectors use them, and they can be had in cotton for about $0.50 per pair (much less than the $2.50 per pair this seller is asking), or $0.75 per pair for nylon. -- Mike Schultz "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Output-Adaptor-for-older-McIntosh-amps_W0QQitemZ5848715520QQcategoryZ14968QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Nylon-gloves-for-handling-McIntosh-amps_W0QQitemZ5848712095QQcategoryZ14968QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I was going to do more... just look at their 'store'. ~~Yikes~~ > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 328864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 21:12:40 -0400 Message-ID: <11s0po8kakbmjb3@corp.supernews.com> References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Mike Schultz wrote: > The gloves are not a bad idea at all. Gun and coin collectors use them, and > they can be had in cotton for about $0.50 per pair (much less than the $2.50 > per pair this seller is asking), or $0.75 per pair for nylon. > Add a 'lab coat' with a brand monogram to your offerings, georg. One must wear the proper apparel to appreciate the sound. -Bill Article: 328865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:09:02 -0400 Message-ID: <11s0t1uq3lojf87@corp.supernews.com> References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> graham wrote: > > ... actually Macintosh doesn't make amps, but McIntosh does ... ;-) > > Pedant. Article: 328866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:03:43 -0500 "graham" wrote in message news:vKKdnVuItrt56V3eRVn-vg@comcast.com... > > " > > > ... actually Peter, many of the high-end tube amp manufactures do include > gloves and other tools when shipped ... the gloves are intended to be used when > installing the tubes, to keep fingerprints off the tubes ... and the adapter is > useful to preserve the barrier strips from damage from oversize spade lugs ... > A lot of higher end faucets (Danze, etc.) come with cotton gloves for the installer as well. Pete Article: 328867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Message-ID: <2n%vf.41521$Mi5.38029@dukeread07> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:08:13 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com... > My Emerson DS-365 has a wood backed but highly vented cabinet. > Nonetheless I can hear sound from the DIAL COVER moving with the air > pressure waves inside the cabinet. The air can't get out fast enough, > and exerts considerate pressure despite venting. SO, I retract my > previous statements that the Acoustic Clarifiers can't do anything, they > likely have a small but noticeable effect at higher volumes. > > John H. > Are you serious, or pulling our legs? I'm not sure if this a bit of wry Johnny H. humor, or if you really hear this happening. Pete Article: 328868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:21:35 -0400 Message-ID: <11s119vkj8ot2a9@corp.supernews.com> References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Uncle Peter wrote: > > A lot of higher end faucets (Danze, etc.) come with cotton gloves for the > installer > as well. > > Pete > > If you buy high end gloves are there some lesser gloves included for handling them? -Bill Article: 328869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11s119vkj8ot2a9@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 22:44:58 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:11s119vkj8ot2a9@corp.supernews.com... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > > > A lot of higher end faucets (Danze, etc.) come with cotton gloves for the > > installer > > as well. > > > > Pete > > > > > > If you buy high end gloves are there some lesser gloves included for > handling them? > > -Bill It becomes a matter of personal hygiene. Wash your hands before putting on the gloves. --Pete Article: 328870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:50:59 -0500 Message-ID: <11s1315138ggga8@corp.supernews.com> References: <11rvluvnpm6j95c@corp.supernews.com> <2n%vf.41521$Mi5.38029@dukeread07> Uncle Peter wrote: > > Are you serious, or pulling our legs? I'm not sure if this a bit of > wry Johnny H. humor, or if you really hear this happening. > > It does sound more bassy in front of this set that from the speaker on top, I'm not kidding. This is a table set with push pull 6L6's, when cranked the dial cover moves quite visibly when it's up loud. Therefor I won't dismiss the Clarifiers as utterly useless. John H. Article: 328871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1136603660.054375.266180@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 04:15:26 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:sKqdnep1646A8l3eRVn-pw@giganews.com... >> I don't see any pictures of the TV actually working..... > > Or of having been "lovingly restored" (chassis looks pretty dusty to me, and you > can't see whether it has been recapped, etc.). > > > Caveat emptor . . . > > Phil Nelson > > Caveat emptor for sure! He's on at least the 4th major revision of his listing. The set that was supposedly "in storage" is actually in the showroom of his "antique store". The set is missing it's wrap-around back, the brass trim bar, and the brass trim ring around the CRT. It no longer "runs like it is new" that the first listing claimed, and the professional restoration was done 14 years ago. The description now tells us the "picture is dark". It's getting farther and farther away from the claim "This tv is missing the sides of the "pedestal" but otherwise perfect condition." But at least he dropped the price by $100. jim menning Article: 328872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: 7 Jan 2006 20:14:15 -0800 Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> In article , Steve Stone says... >A station on 1300 AM out of Rockland County shows me how good local >independent radio can still be. >820 AM WNYC is a NPR station with better than regular programming >950 AM out of New Hyde Park has a wild mix of music, from 30's Swing, Rock a >Billy, to modern stuff. Try 1520 WKBW from buffalo NY. They actually play music now and again! Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 328873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: 7 Jan 2006 20:18:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> In article , Steve Stone says... >Sometimes I just wait for night and tune into oldies out of Buffalo on 1570. >(think it is 1570) Oh, I should have read all the way to the bottom. That's WKBW, it's 1520 actually. Like I said, real music. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 328874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Clough Brengle CRA Oscilloscope Schematic Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 04:48:49 GMT Yes I have it, I'll scan it and post it to binaries. Ron js mcauley wrote in message news:htZvf.4293$%W1.1325@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Anyone out there have a copy of the CRA Schematic they would be willing > to share? > Scott. Article: 328875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Clough Brengle CRA Oscilloscope Schematic Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 04:59:24 GMT It's on the binaries NG. It's BIG, but you can read every word. I hope it helps. 73, Ron Article: 328876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: Subject: Re: Anyone feeling particularly generous (Where is Bill Gates when you need him?) :) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 05:02:20 GMT I was given one of these sets back in the sixties by a neighbor. Unfortunately, the set had suffered trauma from being dropped. the case was a mess, but the chassis survived. It was one of the most sensitive, selective AM band radios I have ever owned. I wish I still had it. Regards, Tom "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dppdim$bh3$1@news2.kornet.net... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6595037225 > Article: 328877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Clough Brengle CRA Oscilloscope Schematic Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 05:08:47 GMT The C-B model CRA is a really neat o'scope. I like the clear CRT it uses. I wish I had another of the CRTs for the tube collection. 73, Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com http://cloughbrengle.homestead.com Article: 328878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Message-ID: <094wf.53277$yj4.23159@fe13.lga> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 02:36:52 -0600 "Ken" wrote in message news:xtQvf.44587$Ou3.14070@dukeread09... > Check the binaries. If my records are correct, that's a 116 back. Ken > > Nelson Gietz wrote: > > > Spotted a Philco 38-116 in an antique shop not too far away, at what I think > > is a good price. But I'm curious to know how well the acoustic resonators > > worked in these things, with the open back? Or is the radio supposed to > > have a closed back? > > Cheers, > > Nelson Thanks for the info and encouragement guys (and photo, Ken). This one may be knobless, but the price is very reasonable. I just have to convince other members of the family there is, indeed, space for it. I have several I'd like to move locally but they need refinishing before they're saleable, and the garage is a little coldish for that right now. Wife (she thought it was a joke) suggested I could stack 'em.... Cheers, Nelson Article: 328879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: Re: Old radios/old cars Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:23:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1136575369.640053.74920@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <27974-43BECC45-1355@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> <%vEvf.468$ve2.325@fe23.lga> I too like this group...my daily driver is a '67 pontiac 2+2 conv...428 ..and it is the first year for ponchos to offer multiplex solid state am/fm..plus of course the built in 8 track....my summer car is the 40 zephyr cnv, complete with one stinky flat head v-12..I wish i had kept my old split window 21 window VW, seems to be very popular..hey Pete W., I had the removeable Blaupunct am/fm/sw/weather radio..with slide in mount..I kept it for years as my "transistor" for daily use...now if I could keep that philco in the lincoln working.... jeff sylvania oh. Article: 328880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Old radios/old cars Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:23:08 -0600 Message-ID: <6884-43C13C6C-51@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I own a good working/playing Blaupunkt Derby 691 MW/FM/Shortwave/Longwave radio and the way it is made,it can be plugged into a car and used,I bought it a few months ago from a guy in Minnesota.Back in 1958,Oldsmobile and Pontiac offered removable radios in their new automobiles.I think those old Chrysler and Dodge Hemi engines had the best sounding engines,some of those old British cars sound really good too. cuhulin Article: 328881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: FREE to good home: Philco 46-1201 Bing Crosby Special From: Ron Ramirez Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:56:48 GMT The subject says it all. FREE to good home. You pay only the cost of shipping, unless you live in New Jersey and want to pick it up. Not mine. Photos on binaries. Send me an e-mail and I will forward it to the owner; you two can get together from there. mrphilco AT philcoradio DOT com -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 328882 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C1480D.8C39536B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 References: <094wf.53277$yj4.23159@fe13.lga> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:13:13 GMT Nelson Gietz wrote: > > Thanks for the info and encouragement guys (and photo, Ken). This one may > be knobless, but the price is very reasonable. I just have to convince > other members of the family there is, indeed, space for it. I have several > I'd like to move locally but they need refinishing before they're saleable, > and the garage is a little coldish for that right now. Wife (she thought it > was a joke) suggested I could stack 'em.... > Cheers, > Nelson Hang them from the ceiling! -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328883 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: sillyweasel@webtv.net Subject: Re: Old radios/old cars Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:00:25 -0800 Message-ID: <22421-43C15339-63@storefull-3114.bay.webtv.net> References: Jeff, If you're not already a member, you might consider joining the Pontiac-Oakland Club International. Membership dues include a full color monthly magazine. I joined in 1974 and have watched it grow from a few hundred members to its current 10,000. You can check out the website at www.poci.org Ron Article: 328884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: FREE to good home: Philco 46-1201 Bing Crosby Special References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:14:49 -0500 Ron, where's the pic? Ken Ron Ramirez wrote: > The subject says it all. FREE to good home. > > You pay only the cost of shipping, unless you live in New Jersey and want > to pick it up. > > Not mine. > > Photos on binaries. > > Send me an e-mail and I will forward it to the owner; you two can get > together from there. mrphilco AT philcoradio DOT com > > -- > Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana > Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ > and the Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 328885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1136603660.054375.266180@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:13:50 -0500 "jim menning" wrote in message news:yl0wf.28485$7S.2427@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:sKqdnep1646A8l3eRVn-pw@giganews.com... >>> I don't see any pictures of the TV actually working..... >> >> Or of having been "lovingly restored" (chassis looks pretty dusty to me, >> and you can't see whether it has been recapped, etc.). >> >> >> Caveat emptor . . . >> >> Phil Nelson >> >> > > Caveat emptor for sure! He's on at least the 4th major revision of his > listing. > > The set that was supposedly "in storage" is actually in the showroom of > his "antique store". The set is missing it's wrap-around back, the brass > trim bar, and the brass trim ring around the CRT. It no longer "runs like > it is new" that the first listing claimed, and the professional > restoration was done 14 years ago. The description now tells us the > "picture is dark". It's getting farther and farther away from the claim > "This tv is missing the sides of the "pedestal" but otherwise perfect > condition." > > But at least he dropped the price by $100. > > jim menning > Now it's being sold as-is...Be ready to get screwed all right. Syl Article: 328886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Aren't These Predicta Pictures from Someone Elses Web Site? Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:07:52 -0600 Message-ID: <11371-43C17118-257@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: Make a tall Predicta stand,fix it up to be a fish tank.Put a lazy susan on top of the tank and put a tv set on top of the lazy susan.Presto,your very own Predicta. cuhulin Article: 328887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: U.S.P.S. Rates Increasing Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:27:12 GMT From Yahoo News: http://snipurl.com/le6j Article: 328888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:13:27 GMT > > Well, I was going to grab a pair of those gloves, until I noticed that they were > > only for Macintosh amps. I'm still looking for ones I can use with my Quad stuff. > > ... actually Macintosh doesn't make amps, but McIntosh does ... ;-) I wonder what my McIntosh ink pen is worth??? Ron Article: 328889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: OT: Semi-OT... Mouser Electronics References: <1136511198.124886.288150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:09:13 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > Once more, Mouser comes through. I called them up with some obscure > transistor needs, and some cap needs. After a full 20 minutes on the > phone with me going over application, case-size requirements and > attempts to cross-match proprietary part-numbers, the lady (she was) at > the far end of the line actually came up with exact matches all the way > across. Example: Who here knows what an AMP2947-6813 in a TO-66 case > might be? > > It came to a $50 sale, but even so, I thank her for her persistence and > patience, and the company for keeping her employed at that level of > customer service. This is the second order in as many weeks. The first > time I had the correct numbers. This time the phone was answered: Good > evening Mouser Electronics, Mary speaking. Is this Mr. Wieck? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > My only "BAD" experience with Mouser was the return of a bad battery. It was a 12v Lead Acid Gelcel for a 6v emergency lamp. It is a heavy unit and the first one they shipped would not take a charge at all. They made me pay for the shipping to return the dead battery and ship a new one. This almost DOUBLED the cost of getting a good unit. I think they should have eaten the shipping cost in both directions, or just told me to chuck the defective battery in the trash (which they probably did when they got it anyway). From now on, I'll try to buy such batteries locally if possible. I'll have to pay more if the local supplier doesn't discount the battery (and sales tax), but not for shipping and I'll be able to return any defective ones. OTOH, Mouser has been great on parts. Still the battery incident has left a bad taste in my mouth for them, and I usually look at Digikey or Jameco first for parts. (Jameco's only sin has been to always stuff a catalog in the box which adds to the shipping weight. A handfull of NTE transistors would have been under the limit for the lowest USPS priority rate, but the DAMN catalog added a few bucks to the shipping cost!) Article: 328890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jeff Olesen" Subject: Dayfan Model 5040 radio schematics Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:26:16 -0500 Message-ID: <11s34c0gdd3rteb@corp.supernews.com> Anyone have schematics for a Dayfan Model 5040 Table top radio circa 1928? Uses 4 tubes which I think are UVX200(1) and UVX201(3). Looking for schematics ( I have hand drawn ones based on the 20x tubes) and or information on how to read the value on a type 601 capacitor. --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- Article: 328891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jeff Olesen" Subject: Type 60 Capacitor values? Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: <11s34o8fqgnqmb9@corp.supernews.com> Anyone know how to read them? Look like sandwiched phenolic material with mica and riveted together with metal c-clamps. Half a dozen in my old radio circa 1928. --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- Article: 328892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" Subject: Free Stuff In S.E. PA Message-ID: <_Agwf.1644$Xo5.379@trnddc02> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:44:10 GMT Hi All, I'm doing some purging of things I'll never get to. I rather see this stuff go to a good home rather than a landfill. So, here is what I have: Philco 70 chassis and cabinet Philco 551 Radio Clock chassis and cabinet GE H-51 Radiola 18 All are without tubes. Cabinets are in need of major work. The Radiola was removed from a Victor 7-11 radio-phonograph, so no cabinet for this one. Could be used for parts or ground up restoration. Email me if interested or any questions. I'm located in Zip 18966 Regards, Mark Article: 328893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gerald K4NHN" Subject: WCKY Transmitter Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:51:54 GMT Early WCKY transmitter is up for sale. A part of history. FYI http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5849087783&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX Gerald K4NHN Cayce, SC Article: 328894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: WCKY Transmitter Message-ID: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:38:29 GMT "Gerald K4NHN" wrote in message news:eIgwf.4023$ZA2.3804@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Early WCKY transmitter is up for sale. A part of history. > FYI > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5849087783&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX > > Gerald K4NHN > Cayce, SC > I wonder what WCKY would want with a transmitter that's outside of the broadcast band though? This looks too big to backhaul audio to the studio >from a remote location, unless this was part of a very early STL? Most stations used leased phones lines for that though... Interesting nonetheless. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 328895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C1B8AE.21FCB5BB@sympatico.ca> From: John Stewart Subject: Re: WCKY Transmitter References: Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:13:18 -0500 --------------6DFFC0007019B14A1AEE9B25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerald K4NHN wrote: > Early WCKY transmitter is up for sale. A part of history. > FYI > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5849087783&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX > > Gerald K4NHN > Cayce, SC Not sure, but wasn't WCKY in Cincinnati? It used to come into the Toronto area, loud & clear back 50 years ago. Used to listen to WCKY in my '40 Ford Collapsible! Cheers, John Stewart While out in the barn is a '65 Mustang that I bought new. And a Kubota diesel tractor. JLS --------------6DFFC0007019B14A1AEE9B25 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerald K4NHN wrote:
Early WCKY transmitter is up for sale. A part  of history.
FYI
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5849087783&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX

Gerald K4NHN
Cayce, SC

Not sure, but wasn't WCKY in Cincinnati? It used to come into the Toronto area, loud & clear back 50 years ago. Used to listen to WCKY in my '40 Ford Collapsible!

Cheers, John Stewart

While out in the barn is a '65 Mustang that I bought new.
And a Kubota diesel tractor.                        JLS --------------6DFFC0007019B14A1AEE9B25-- Article: 328896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <094wf.53277$yj4.23159@fe13.lga> Message-ID: <39kwf.5248$gf7.1917@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 02:47:27 GMT In article <094wf.53277$yj4.23159@fe13.lga>, ngietz@mts.net says... > > > Wife (she thought it was a joke) suggested I could stack 'em.... >Cheers, >Nelson > > seriously ... in my garage I do just that stack consoles with table radios on top of the two high stack... better than passing up this right priced 38-116 ..... or take it and put something much lessor out real cheap as is .... whatever it takes to get the 15 toober Philco you won't be sorry.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 328897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" Subject: What gives an old radio that characteristic smell when it is running? Message-ID: <1Wkwf.716528$xm3.294739@attbi_s21> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:39:41 GMT Hello all... Right now I'm listening to the trashpicked Zenith 7C05 (chassis number) and it is still doing great. I've doing that since about 7 PM (CST) tonight as there is a classic country music program on a nearby FM station that is really quite good. Well, doing that brings up a question...just what is that smell that comes >from an operating tube-type set? I notice that all of mine (some wooden, some plastic, and all are table radios) produce a very similar smell when operating. I'm not complaining...just curious... (And please forgive me if I've asked this before.) William Article: 328898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: eBay's response to the Philco Predicta image theft...... Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 19:25:51 -0800 Message-ID: A couple of days ago, I sent the following message to ebay's copyright infringement investigators: listing # 6242672049 contains a photo that is not of the actual item for sale and is a copyrighted image taken from http://www.tvhistory.tv/1950-59-PHILCO.htm Their response: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, Thank you for taking the time to write eBay with your concerns. My name is Natania and I'm happy to help you. I have reviewed the information that you provided regarding the use of images or text in item number Item #6242672049, but at this point find that I do not have enough evidence to show that the member has violated any eBay rules. Regrettably, we will only be able to take action if the owner of the images or text writes to us. In some instances, sellers may have obtained permission to use the material. Therefore, we often cannot remove listings based on the representations of third parties whose credentials we cannot verify. We do understand the potential for further issues in this type of situation. That is why, if you feel strongly about this issue, we recommend that you contact the owner of the images or text, and recommend that they contact us directly. Once we hear from them, we will take appropriate action. We appreciate you taking the time to contact us with your concerns. Thank you participating in the eBay community. Regards, Natania Community Watch Team eBay Trust & Safety ------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, I guess it's OK to put in your listing: An image of a used collectable you don't actually have that is substantially different in appearance and functionality from the item you are selling, and: It's also OK to use a copyrighted image as long as the holder never sees it or reports it. Caveat Emptor, indeed. At least I tried..... -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roy Tony Subject: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 04:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Anyone actually collect soundsheet records? The records were made of thin flexible sheets of plastic. What was useful about them is they were cheap to make and could never break when dropped. They were also little harder to scratch because the sheet would slide on the turntable if you'd push the needle too hard. They were inserted in magazines, books and even sent through the mail as a music samples. They were the very first "floppy discs"! One sound sheet I have was recorded one side only. That sheet is so thin you could see the loudest sound passages protruding on the blank side. The most common sound sheets I've seen are made by Eva-Tone (Deerfield Ill). The most common title is one put out by Time Life Records titled "The Swing Era" Demonstration Record BG-11769 S7 I have one used by what I think was a dictating machine. The grouves are so close together that even a new needle has trouble staying in it. It's made by Edison Diamond Disc, McGraw Edison Company. I recently came across a record made out of cardboard. One side is the cardboard the other is just shiny enough for grooves. Dancerina: Tchaikovsky selections from Nutcracker Suite. 1968 Mattel inc. Auravision a product of Columbia special products. CSM-7858-2A. I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? -- Tony Article: 328900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 04:14:42 GMT Hi! > Anyone actually collect soundsheet records? The records were made of thin > flexible sheets of plastic. What was useful about them is they were cheap > to make and could never break when dropped. They were also little harder > to scratch because the sheet would slide on the turntable if you'd push > the needle too hard. They were inserted in magazines, books and even sent > through the mail as a music samples. They were the very first "floppy > discs"! Wow...all these years I've wondered what those were called. When I was very young I saw one that my parents played on their turntable. (This would have been in the mid/late 1980s or so...) It was a square flexible plastic record. (The recorded part was round, of course. It was the body that was square.) I remember that it didn't sound very good and may have been some kind of advertisement. If memory serves it was made of a clearish plastic, almost like a transparency. Not sure what speed it played back at... I think this one was recorded on only one side as well. All I know is that is disappeared (probably to the trash) and that I found it be unique. William Article: 328901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roy Tony Subject: Help date this Magnavox Micromatic Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 04:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: I came across a Magnavox Micromatic Stereophonic console. It has a AM FM stereo built in. It says it was made in made in England. But doesn't say anything else like the model number. It weighs about 40lbs. The speakers are connected by the inges of the cabinet speakers. It works in way I've never seen before. The record player finds out the size of the records by moving the tone arm in the air towards the records that are waiting to fall. It taps them with the tone arm to knows the record size. It then lets one fall and then puts the tone arm on the record with the audio muted until after it hits the records. It'd like to know the model number and the year it was manufactured. -- Tony Article: 328902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roy Tony Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 04:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: William R. Walsh wrote: > Hi! >> Anyone actually collect soundsheet records? The records were made of thin >> flexible sheets of plastic. What was useful about them is they were cheap >> to make and could never break when dropped. They were also little harder >> to scratch because the sheet would slide on the turntable if you'd push >> the needle too hard. They were inserted in magazines, books and even sent >> through the mail as a music samples. They were the very first "floppy >> discs"! > Wow...all these years I've wondered what those were called. When I was very > young I saw one that my parents played on their turntable. (This would have > been in the mid/late 1980s or so...) It was a square flexible plastic > record. (The recorded part was round, of course. It was the body that was > square.) I remember that it didn't sound very good and may have been some > kind of advertisement. If memory serves it was made of a clearish plastic, > almost like a transparency. Not sure what speed it played back at... Any speed is possible. The bad sound quality is sometimes due to the turntable itself. Some turntable have bumps on it and plastic sound sheets bend when the needle slides on the record. > I think this one was recorded on only one side as well. All I know is that > is disappeared (probably to the trash) and that I found it be unique. > William -- Tony t2k@vcn.bc.ca Article: 328903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: Subject: Re: WCKY Transmitter Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 22:27:54 -0600 Message-ID: <43c1e6bb@kcnews01> Jon: There were and still are a few STLs around 25 - 27 MHz. I used to listen to a local one which turned out to be about 1/2 of the local ham frequency of 53 MHz back in the 1950s. So it must have been 26.5 MHz. We had occasional problems when someone mistuned a 53 MHz transmitter and the half frequency output would be heard by the station. I seem to recall reading about a FL station in Popular Communications a couple of years ago which is still using a HF link in that frequency range. OTOH, that might just have been a dispatch radio. AM was used before WW2 quite extensively. Link and Motorola made FM the modulation of choice for mobile radio in the late 30s and on into WW2. I have seen Motorola 30.xxx MHz AM receivers for two way service from about 1940. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "Jon" wrote in message news:Vnhwf.77916$XC4.54297@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > "Gerald K4NHN" wrote in message > news:eIgwf.4023$ZA2.3804@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> Early WCKY transmitter is up for sale. A part of history. >> FYI >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5849087783&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX >> >> Gerald K4NHN >> Cayce, SC >> > > I wonder what WCKY would want with a transmitter that's outside of the > broadcast band though? This looks too big to backhaul audio to the studio > from a remote location, unless this was part of a very early STL? Most > stations used leased phones lines for that though... Interesting > nonetheless. > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > Article: 328904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> <-rednVgSUaQjdVzeRVn-gA@velocitywest.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:09:06 GMT Somewhere around here, I have a plastic on cardboard record that is from a now defunct (I think) outfit called "Chicken Delight". They were a fried chicken chain that delivered like pizza places do. It was somewhat novel in the 1960s. The record is of a tune called "ding-a-ling" or something like that, referring to the telephone for food concept. Very late 1960s mod yellow and orange motif. It was actually part of the cover for a bucket of chicken, IIRC, though there doesn't appear to be any grease on it. Lost to the time gods is my brother's copy of "It's a Gas" which was an insert in Mad Magazine. Jazzy music with belches.... Best Regards, DAve Article: 328905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 23:57:07 -0500 "graham" wrote in message news:GuOdnfKIcYLz7l3eRVn-gQ@comcast.com... > >> Well, I was going to grab a pair of those gloves, until I noticed that >> they were only for Macintosh amps. I'm still looking for ones I can use >> with my Quad stuff. > > > ... actually Macintosh doesn't make amps, but McIntosh does ... ;-) 2 trew, dood. Mea Typo! My brother in Barbados tells me that they only get "Macintotch" on the Island. Article: 328906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1136576411.678121.32780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11s119vkj8ot2a9@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: More Phoolery.... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 00:00:26 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:11s119vkj8ot2a9@corp.supernews.com... > If you buy high end gloves are there some lesser gloves included for > handling them? > > -Bill No, Bill, because that would be silly... Article: 328907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Zenith 2 spindle 7" phono Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:25:58 GMT Has anyone ever seen one of these strange beasts? http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-ZENITH-Twin-Seven-Radio-Phono-Cobramatic_W0QQitemZ6593489471QQcategoryZ38035QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 328908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Free Stuff In S.E. PA From: Ron Ramirez References: <_Agwf.1644$Xo5.379@trnddc02> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:44:31 GMT Mark, I sent you an e-mail on this subject. Please advise if it does not go through...thanks very much. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php "Mark Robinson" wrote in news:_Agwf.1644$Xo5.379@trnddc02: > Hi All, > > I'm doing some purging of things I'll never get to. I rather see this > stuff go to a good home rather than a landfill. So, here is what I > have: > > Philco 70 chassis and cabinet > Philco 551 Radio Clock chassis and cabinet > GE H-51 > Radiola 18 > > All are without tubes. Cabinets are in need of major work. The > Radiola was removed from a Victor 7-11 radio-phonograph, so no cabinet > for this one. Could be used for parts or ground up restoration. Email > me if interested or any questions. I'm located in Zip 18966 > > Regards, > > Mark Article: 328909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: What gives an old radio that characteristic smell when it is running? Message-ID: References: <1Wkwf.716528$xm3.294739@attbi_s21> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:47:00 -0600 On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:39:41 GMT, "William R. Walsh" wrote: >Hello all... > >Right now I'm listening to the trashpicked Zenith 7C05 (chassis number) and >it is still doing great. I've doing that since about 7 PM (CST) tonight as >there is a classic country music program on a nearby FM station that is >really quite good. > >Well, doing that brings up a question...just what is that smell that comes >from an operating tube-type set? I notice that all of mine (some wooden, >some plastic, and all are table radios) produce a very similar smell when >operating. > Could be reactivation of the mouse pee, especially true in consoles. Article: 328910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Shortwave Broadcasts for Your Old Radio? Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 00:18:22 -0600 Message-ID: <27116-43C2002E-410@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I am only sixty four years young,born,November 5,1941.I have always wished I had been old enough to have been in the Battle of the Bulge.Something I would like to listen to (and own) are some recordings of actual Dogfights in the Air between the Allies and the Axis,Aircraft and Tower broadcast. cuhulin Article: 328911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Burson" References: <_Agwf.1644$Xo5.379@trnddc02> Subject: Re: Free Stuff In S.E. PA Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 06:42:50 GMT My email to you was undeliverable. I'd appreciate if you'd contact me. Dave Burson "Mark Robinson" wrote in message news:_Agwf.1644$Xo5.379@trnddc02... > Hi All, > > I'm doing some purging of things I'll never get to. I rather see this > stuff > go to a good home rather than a landfill. So, here is what I have: > > Philco 70 chassis and cabinet > Philco 551 Radio Clock chassis and cabinet > GE H-51 > Radiola 18 > > All are without tubes. Cabinets are in need of major work. The Radiola > was > removed from a Victor 7-11 radio-phonograph, so no cabinet for this one. > Could be used for parts or ground up restoration. Email me if interested > or > any questions. I'm located in Zip 18966 > > Regards, > > Mark > > > Article: 328912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: What gives an old radio that characteristic smell when it is Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 01:19:29 -0600 Message-ID: <27118-43C20E81-21@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Dirt dobbers. cuhulin Article: 328913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:33:26 -0800 Message-ID: References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > MAD magazine produced two, of excerpts from their LPs. There was actually at least three, one of which was an audio performance of MAD's "All in the family" parody and not released anywhere else. Pretty funny, as I recall. These soundsheets were included as bonuses in a few of the MAD Specials of the 1960s and 1970s in lieu of the posters and stickers that were usually included. Much later, MAD bundled a thinly disguised AOL sign-up CD containing at least two of the tracks from its vintage soundsheets into one of its regular issues...."It's a gas" was one track I remember, and "Barely Alive", a take-off on the Bee Gees "Stayin' Alive" was another. IIRC, the CD also contained a copy of the same MAD database that was used in "The complete MAD" compilation CDs. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:42:29 -0800 Message-ID: References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: >>I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and >>wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? > > > I'm sure someone must collect them. > > I can think of a few to keep an eye out for... > > I seem to remember plastic-on-cardboard records on the back of cereal boxes > (Wheaties?). > Stereo Review produced two -- a mono recording of Glen Gould's"So You Want > to Write a Fugue?" and a stereo recording of Mirela Freni. > MAD magazine produced two, of excerpts from their LPs. > > There is one that I know is really valuable, worth hundreds to the right collector. It is a recording of the Rolling Stones and a couple of other artists that was bundled into an issue of a Guitar Player-like magazine in the early 1970s. For some reason, the Stones track on this disc has NEVER been released anywhere else and the magazine containing the disc sold poorly, making the disc as rare as a 40 year old virgin and one of the holy grails of Stones memoribilia collectables. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> <-rednVgSUaQjdVzeRVn-gA@velocitywest.com> Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 02:43:13 -0600 "DaveW" wrote in message news:Sdmwf.1793$Xo5.661@trnddc02... > Somewhere around here, I have a plastic on cardboard record that is from > a now defunct (I think) outfit called "Chicken Delight". They were a > fried chicken chain that delivered like pizza places do. It was somewhat > novel in the 1960s. > > The record is of a tune called "ding-a-ling" or something like that, > referring to the telephone for food concept. Very late 1960s mod yellow > and orange motif. It was actually part of the cover for a bucket of > chicken, IIRC, though there doesn't appear to be any grease on it. > > Lost to the time gods is my brother's copy of "It's a Gas" which was an > insert in Mad Magazine. Jazzy music with belches.... > > Best Regards, > > DAve Dave, Chicken Delight is not defunct here in Winnipeg, and we sometimes find it a nice variation on the "Colonel". Anyway, I remember voicing a pep talk kind of piece for the sales dept. of a very large Canadian insurance company back in about 1969 or so. Think I might still have my own souvenir copy of the plastic "floppy" the salesmen threw away. Nelson Article: 328916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bram Stolk" References: Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:45:40 +0100 Message-ID: <43c2308e$0$74517$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl> Howdy youngsters,... I remember as a kid we used to have 78 Rpm (speed and size) records made out of brownish carton coated with some early vinyl. These records were very subject to temp or moist and really started to warpp so we had to put a rubber grommet on the turntable spindle to hold the record in a more or less flat condition. Production dates of these things were well before World War II and to the best of I can recall, all of US origin and rather hard to get here in the Netherlands. Playback quality was awfull and when played with the ordinary heavy weight acoustical tonearms the records did not survive very long. With time, parts of the foil containing the grooves came loose >from its backing carton. Yes indeed, it were those early days 12 Inch Single Sided Read Only Floppy Disks !!!! -- Bram Stolk the Netherlands ...If you want to grow old as a pilot, you have got to know when to push it, and when to back off...(Free to Chuck Yeager) "Roy Tony" schreef in bericht news:dpsn7o$jfr$3@luna.vcn.bc.ca... > Anyone actually collect soundsheet records? The records were made of thin > flexible sheets of plastic. What was useful about them is they were cheap > to make and could never break when dropped. They were also little harder > to scratch because the sheet would slide on the turntable if you'd push > the needle too hard. They were inserted in magazines, books and even sent > through the mail as a music samples. They were the very first "floppy > discs"! > One sound sheet I have was recorded one side only. That sheet is so thin > you could see the loudest sound passages protruding on the blank side. > > The most common sound sheets I've seen are made by Eva-Tone > (Deerfield Ill). > The most common title is one put out by Time Life Records titled > "The Swing Era" Demonstration Record BG-11769 S7 > > I have one used by what I think was a dictating machine. The grouves are > so close together that even a new needle has trouble staying in it. > It's made by Edison Diamond Disc, McGraw Edison Company. > > I recently came across a record made out of cardboard. One side is the > cardboard the other is just shiny enough for grooves. > Dancerina: Tchaikovsky selections from Nutcracker Suite. 1968 Mattel inc. > Auravision a product of Columbia special products. CSM-7858-2A. > > I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and > wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? > > -- > Tony Article: 328917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: tube collectors? Message-ID: <66h4s19m10vrnjuu6eeuri827mgkk62mm4@4ax.com> References: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:11:46 GMT I happen to have two of them, apparently NIB. Anyone got specs for them? Gordon Richmond Article: 328918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:24:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <43c2308e$0$74517$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl> "Bram Stolk" wrote in message news:43c2308e$0$74517$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl... > Howdy youngsters,... > I remember as a kid we used to have 78 Rpm (speed and size) records made out > of brownish carton coated with some early vinyl. My father collected a few of these back in the late 1950's, I guess they must have been some of the first 'flexi-disks' produced running at 78rpm on clear, square sheets of plastic. Containing some skiffle tracks which date them to around 58-59 I guess. //Clive. Article: 328919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Old radios/old cars Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 11:30:38 GMT Well, I also have a large assortment of Studebakers, both cars and trucks, and a "faux" MB Jeep under construction. Gordon Richmond Article: 328920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: Gluing dial glass Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:38:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1136746852.063236.319310@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Terry S" wrote in message news:1136746852.063236.319310@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > My Tesla 308U chassis arrived yesterday, with a broken dial glass as I > knew it would. > > Has anyone had success supergluing a dial glass? This one has a > perfectly clean break, no chips, spider cracks, etc. And the graphics > on it are excellent, better than any of the other 4 in my collection. > Sharp lettering, bright colors. > I once made a passable repair on an old dial glass using some glass-glue I bought from an automotive shop. The problem is defraction though, even though the glass broke cleanly, the crack is still very obvious when looked at in a certain light because of the change in the refractive index over the crack. The cause of the crack was down to my ham-fistedness and also the extremely tight metal clips which held the glass in place, so I strengthened the whole dial glass with 'lolly sticks' over the edges where they could not be seen. All in all, you have to look carefully to see the crack. //Clive. Article: 328921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:09:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:E-ednYe_PuV00l_eRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > Any speed is possible. > > Yes, but... The plastic was not thick enough to support the depth of a 78 > groove. > > Well these one sure were ! Although I guess they were made for some a little more caring then the needle on old wind-up gramaphones. They still play OK today, though I keep them held between some heavy books as the plastic is starting to warp. //Clive. Article: 328922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: OT: Semi-OT... Mouser Electronics Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:20:41 -0400 Message-ID: <11s4l8rotf3875e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1136511198.124886.288150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <6fc7125b9c71812b995d0c5e81c450ca@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <1136668826.133511.269030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> tombrown@jhu.edu wrote: > Pete_O wrote: > >>Great company; Their mini audio xfmrs can easily be hidden in a TRF. When I >>find the originals I'll remove 'em. > > > Which xfrmrs are these? Searching their site for audio transformers I > get nearly 3,000 hits, organized only by manufacturer. Just show me the > bargains! > Try 42TU002 or 42TU012. Rating is 100vdc but you typically don't have that on the detector plate...and I've had no problem using them at 135 v B+ on the audio tubes. -Bill Article: 328923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: When did PC boards start to appear?? Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:24:27 -0400 Message-ID: <11s4lfso821fl39@corp.supernews.com> References: <1136749951.967109.271240@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Bob Armstrong wrote: > tubes, built on PC boards. Can anybody give any examples that can date > it more precisely than this? Anybody got any tube gear from the early > to mid 50s with PC boards in it? Both Hallicrafters and GE were pushing little AM table radios using a printed circuit board in the early 50s. I can't recall any specific model numbers, though. -Bill Article: 328924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion References: <1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7gtwf.54624$Ou3.35893@dukeread09> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:09:13 -0500 Seems like you've justified the execution. Ken waldo2384@hotmail.com wrote: > I just won an adorable little red Temple superhet metal midget on ebay. > I intend to strip it down to the chassis and cabinet, into which I will > build the cutest little one watt guitar amp you've ever seen. I am > sympathetic with the preservationist ideal but... > > a) any collector who wanted this could have outbid me on ebay > > b) I will preserve the original appearance of the metal cabinet, but it > is hard for me to see the guts of this cheapie as having much > historical value. When I'm dead, the next guy can always restore the > thing back into the crappy little AM radio it used to be, if he wants, > assuming that AM broadcast radio still even exists by then. > Article: 328925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? References: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> <1136740312.854690.112010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:40:05 -0500 AB9GO wrote: You have to buy a card to DECODE the prices! The code was 2 > words that did not have repeating letters. The first letter =1, 2nd =2 > etc. Do not remember the code words anymore and I am sure he has > changed them sine the last time I visitied. When I worked at an auto parts store in the early 80's, everything was priced manually. We had a price labelling gun which printed two lines of pricing. The top line was in dollars and cents and the second line was in letters. The word "PATHFINDER" represented the numbers "1234567890" and was the discounted trade or garage price shown on the second line while the top line showed the retail price and was readable without decoding. -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 328926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: When did PC boards start to appear?? References: <1136749951.967109.271240@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:53:24 -0500 Bob Armstrong wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I'm doing some research for a project, and I'm trying to date when > printed circuit boards started to be used in equipment. It seems like > all electronics up thru at least the 40s was point to point wired, but > by the mid 60s I can remember lots of equipment, still with vacuum > tubes, built on PC boards. Can anybody give any examples that can date > it more precisely than this? Anybody got any tube gear from the early > to mid 50s with PC boards in it? RCA built a little table radio known as the Nipper. A few years ago I had two Nippers here which looked identical. I rebuilt the first one, a "Nipper IV", repaired the cabinet (which was really bad) and sold it on eBay as a "deco'd" unit (for lack of a better term) http://www3.sympatico.ca/oldrad/Radio/after.jpg because I had two of them and the cabinet on the second one looked better. The second one turned out to be a PC board unit while the first one was a conventional aluminum chassis. They were about 1954 units IIRC. -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 328927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Old radios/old cars Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:27:34 -0600 Message-ID: <407-43C272D6-358@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: www.willystech.com (Parts Board/Parts for sale) www.jeepdraw.com www.jeepdoc.com www.google.com Brian's World War Two Military Jeeps There are many,many other Jeep parts suppliers/stores listed on the internet too.I never owned a Studebaker car or truck before,but I do own a Studebaker "Bullet" from the center nose section from an early 1950's Studebaker car and I do own a Studebaker radiator temperture gage/radiator cap like the kind that was used on very early Studebaker cars back in the 1920's and 1930's,both items are in excellent condition.I think the late 1940's and early 1950's Studebakers were the best looking Studebakers,especially the 1950 and 1951 Studebaker cars with the wrap around windows and venetian blinds in the windows. cuhulin Article: 328928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Old radios/old cars Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:48:28 -0600 Message-ID: <407-43C277BC-367@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Any photos of your "faux" MB Jeep under construction? I have some photos of my built in the Springtime of 1942 Willys Jeep the guy emailed me just before I bought the Jeep from him ,the guy I bought my 1942 Willys Jeep from.I put them in another one of my webtv user name addresses.Someone before him had installed the wrong grill on the Jeep (originally,it had a welded steel slat grill on it) and it has a later model gas tank inlet on the drivers side that someone had installed on the side of the Jeep.I also own a 1948 Willys civilian Jeep.Hotchkiss company,France was building World War Two era Jeeps under license up to in the 1960's.During World War Two,there was an underground Jeep assembly plant in England.A guy who works in the parts department at a Volvo truck dealership here in Jackson owns a World War Two Jeep that he restored.There were other companies in U.S.A.that built some Jeeps such as Bantam and Checker before the final Jeep design was settled on for production.The History of Willys and Ford (Ford built about half of the World War Two era Jeeps) World War Two Jeeps is very interesting,at least to me it is. cuhulin Article: 328929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C27B39.646D3F3E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WCKY Transmitter References: <43C1B8AE.21FCB5BB@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:03:48 GMT John Stewart wrote: > > Not sure, but wasn't WCKY in Cincinnati? It used to come into the > Toronto area, loud & clear back 50 years ago. Used to listen to WCKY > in my '40 Ford Collapsible! I sure hope so. That is where the antenna was. Also, WCKY used to be on 1530 KC, so the transmitter could have been used as a low power backup. WCKY was traded for WSAI, who was on 1360 KC for decades. WCKY: 8044 Montgomery Rd # 650, Cincinnati, 45236 -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "G. Wilson" Subject: schematic needed Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:16:17 -0700 Message-ID: Help : schematic or manual needed for Marconi CSR - 2 Any hints or leads appreciated , thanks !! Gordon gandmwilson@interbaun.com Article: 328931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:03:26 -0600 Message-ID: <408-43C27B3E-114@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1136795380.781652.38980@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I used to subscribe to Time Warner cable tv and sometimes I would see those test thingys on my tv set.Nowdays,I subscribe to DirecTV.(over 140 channels I get and I only watch a few of them for old,old movies I like) I haven't seen any of those test thingys on DirecTV yet.Perhaps they are on a channel I do not watch.I own a Linkys Wireless B Music System internet Radio.I can use it connected to my computer or I can use it wirelessly,it works ok.I bought it at a local Wal Mart store for $159.00.Do an innternet search for,Watch free tv on your computer. cuhulin Article: 328932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FREE to good home: Philco 46-1201 Bing Crosby Special From: Ron Ramirez References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:26:23 GMT The 46-1201 has been spoken for. Thanks for your interest. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 328933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: A BIT Gaudy Perhaps? References: <11rufmhsq6n3bdf@corp.supernews.com> <1136740312.854690.112010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:44:27 -0600 John Bartley wrote: > AB9GO wrote: > You have to buy a card to DECODE the prices! The code was 2 > >> words that did not have repeating letters. The first letter =1, 2nd =2 >> etc. Do not remember the code words anymore and I am sure he has >> changed them sine the last time I visitied. > > > > When I worked at an auto parts store in the early 80's, everything was > priced manually. We had a price labelling gun which printed two lines of > pricing. The top line was in dollars and cents and the second line was > in letters. The word "PATHFINDER" represented the numbers "1234567890" > and was the discounted trade or garage price shown on the second line > while the top line showed the retail price and was readable without > decoding. > Pawn shops use a similar scheme. I used to know the two decyper keys used locally, one of which was 'MARIECANP' (Marie can pee). I don't recall, any more, what the resulting numbers represent; except it was a combination of the price originally paid for the item, plus the date of aquisition by the pawn shop. Savvy shoppers used the info in order to make an acceptable offer on the merchandise. Not as savvy as I once was, I guess. Article: 328934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:52:05 -0600 Mike Schultz wrote: > There were two of these which featured the Beatles, both promos for the > Capitol Record Club. One was on paper, one was on plastic. They are worth > big bucks, depending on condition and how much of the original material is > with them. I had one of the paper ones, complete, in near mint condition > which I got about $700 for. > I wonder if the one I have (somewhere) is worth anything.... It was campaign material for Nixon's presidential re-election, with speech excerpts. jak Article: 328935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C2864B.2000002@sympatico.ca> From: John Bartley Subject: Re: schematic needed References: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 10:50:35 -0500 G. Wilson wrote: > Help : schematic or manual needed for Marconi CSR - 2 > Any hints or leads appreciated , thanks !! > Gordon > gandmwilson@interbaun.com Gordon, I would love to help you with obtaining a manual as I am also searching for one and have been for about five years now. The closest I've been to one is photocopies of the sales literature that the Museum of Science and Technology in Ottawa has in their library. Copies of this to you at your request if you wish. I have an almost factory mint, unmolested rack mount CSR2 with matching power supply and speaker, speaker has the factory 1937 quality control inspection tag with it. If you would like photos, or circuit sections traced (not the whole thing please :~) ) just let me know. I would very much appreciate any help that you could share in obtaining service info and would be only too happy to share any costs that are incurred in getting GOOD copies (preferably electronic and hi-resolution) Do I sound desperate ?? There's a reason :~) cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 328936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion Message-ID: <7lwwf.2070$Xo5.1559@trnddc02> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:39:31 GMT I just converted a 1964 Fender Strat to an AM radio. Doesn't sound too good, but it looks adorable. (Just kidding! You own it now, have fun!) -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I just won an adorable little red Temple superhet metal midget on ebay. > I intend to strip it down to the chassis and cabinet, into which I will > build the cutest little one watt guitar amp you've ever seen. I am > sympathetic with the preservationist ideal but... > > a) any collector who wanted this could have outbid me on ebay > > b) I will preserve the original appearance of the metal cabinet, but it > is hard for me to see the guts of this cheapie as having much > historical value. When I'm dead, the next guy can always restore the > thing back into the crappy little AM radio it used to be, if he wants, > assuming that AM broadcast radio still even exists by then. > Article: 328937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:10:18 -0400 Message-ID: <11s567r6a45e8e7@corp.supernews.com> References: <1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7lwwf.2070$Xo5.1559@trnddc02> Mike Schultz wrote: > I just converted a 1964 Fender Strat to an AM radio. Doesn't sound too > good, but it looks adorable. They look great when painted Paris-cottage shabby chic. You can replace the strings with little artificial ivy vines and it will look just ADORABLE! -ex Article: 328938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion References: <1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:50:40 GMT waldo2384@hotmail.com wrote: > I just won an adorable little red Temple superhet metal midget on ebay. > I intend to strip it down to the chassis and cabinet, into which I will > build the cutest little one watt guitar amp you've ever seen. I am > sympathetic with the preservationist ideal but... > > a) any collector who wanted this could have outbid me on ebay > > b) I will preserve the original appearance of the metal cabinet, but it > is hard for me to see the guts of this cheapie as having much > historical value. When I'm dead, the next guy can always restore the > thing back into the crappy little AM radio it used to be, if he wants, > assuming that AM broadcast radio still even exists by then. a) Sounds like you've already made up your mind and are just trying to ease your conscience b) Pardon me, but I have to ask...What ever can you do with a crappy little *one watt* guitar amplifier (even if it is cute)?????? Article: 328939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: Gluing dial glass? References: <1136729808.558290.322390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136824162.693517.212530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9wxwf.75555$tV6.61746@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:59:33 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > Side Note: > > Krylon Fixitif (Again, accept no others) is a reliable material to > spray on painted/drawn/silk-screened substrates to fix the graphics in > place against casual handling. Do NOT over spray as the solvents may > affect some pigments or dyes if overdone. Peter, surprised you recommended this. I believe the Krylon product is essentially lacquer with its associated solvent-lacquer thinner. If the dial is as delicate as the original poster says, would you want *any* amount of lacquer thinner anywhere near it??? Otherwise, your procedure for the glue-up sounds good... Article: 328940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1136730046.080943.270430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Damn Google... try again... Gluing a dial glass. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:23:15 -0600 "Terry S" wrote in message news:1136730046.080943.270430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I hope this doesn't actually get posted multiple times... > > Has anyone had real success gluing a cracked dial glass? > > I just got my Tesla Talisman chassis yesterday in the mail, the dial > glass id broken *neatly* in half. Even still, it's probably the best > example of these dials I have, in terms of color, sharpness of the > lettering, and cleanliness. (You can NOT clean them, the lettering > comes right off). > > Not a chip missing, no spider cracks, just a clean break. I was > thinking theoretically, I should be able to superglue this, fill the > entire crack with the thin type glue, and make it nearly invisible. I > did try it once before on a dial where the break was not so clean. It > held but only for a few weeks, and was visible. > > Any ideas? > > Terry. Terry, Just a WAG... but don't the guys who deal with optics like cameras and telescopes use adhesive with the same or near refractive index as glass? There also was something called "water glass" that I've heard of. Haven't Googled either one, but it might provide some direction to look. Even if they aren't physically strong, you might be able to reinforce the edge of the dial glass where it's out of sight to hold it together. -Might be worth a look, anyway. Nelson Article: 328941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:27:57 GMT My parents have a record that was recorded by my uncle during World War II. During World War II, my Mom moved to Washington DC from New Jersey to be a "government girl." She and my Dad married in 1948. During the war my uncle Frank served in the Navy in the South Pacific. This record was a form of "living letter" where Uncle Frank told Mom of how he was doing, and wishing her well. One line says something like, "If you happen to see President Roosevelt, please tell him to hurry up and get this war over with." It's been awhile since I've seen this record, but as I recall it's some sort of clear acetate over cardboard. It defintely plays at 78rpm. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Roy Tony" wrote in message news:dpsn7o$jfr$3@luna.vcn.bc.ca... > Anyone actually collect soundsheet records? The records were made of thin > flexible sheets of plastic. What was useful about them is they were cheap > to make and could never break when dropped. They were also little harder > to scratch because the sheet would slide on the turntable if you'd push > the needle too hard. They were inserted in magazines, books and even sent > through the mail as a music samples. They were the very first "floppy > discs"! > One sound sheet I have was recorded one side only. That sheet is so thin > you could see the loudest sound passages protruding on the blank side. > > The most common sound sheets I've seen are made by Eva-Tone > (Deerfield Ill). > The most common title is one put out by Time Life Records titled > "The Swing Era" Demonstration Record BG-11769 S7 > > I have one used by what I think was a dictating machine. The grouves are > so close together that even a new needle has trouble staying in it. > It's made by Edison Diamond Disc, McGraw Edison Company. > > I recently came across a record made out of cardboard. One side is the > cardboard the other is just shiny enough for grooves. > Dancerina: Tchaikovsky selections from Nutcracker Suite. 1968 Mattel inc. > Auravision a product of Columbia special products. CSM-7858-2A. > > I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and > wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? > > -- > Tony Article: 328942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: These 78 RPM 10" type of "self" recordings were sometimes made in record stores that had recording booths! Others were made at home on disc cutting machines sold by Silvertone, Philco and Wilcox-Gay ("Recordio" brand, Charlotte, Michigan). I think Airline had a record cutter too, it may have been supplied by W-G. The home record cutting machines date from 1939-1948 mostly. Coincident with that was "wire recording" as well. Tape recording came along after 1948 and made the disc machines obsolete. these records were made on blanks that were acetate over aluminum or pasteboard/card stock of some kind. my buddy Dan Gutowski does a lot of disc transferring to CD, and many of these we get in are old home recordings that vary from speech only to full musical performances. Many of these are quite challenging to transfer as they deteriorate or have been treated so badly. Others last quite well. Many folks chose to record important events on them such as the coronation of Queen Elizabeth in 1952, or the death of president Roosevelt. the best ones are the home musical performances.. we have heard some amazing stuff... one teen did a great Elvis routine... in 1957! Its fun to seek these self recordings out at flea markets and see what they have on them. You can spot the discs as the lables have a blank area to write in. Many of the discs will say Wilcox Gay or Audiodisc or something like that. I have one from the "Plymouth Music Store" that must have existed here in my little town. Unfortunately, its just a blank. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:NWxwf.700$ee6.230@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > My parents have a record that was recorded by my uncle during World War II. > > During World War II, my Mom moved to Washington DC from New Jersey to be a > "government girl." She and my Dad married in 1948. During the war my uncle > Frank served in the Navy in the South Pacific. This record was a form of > "living letter" where Uncle Frank told Mom of how he was doing, and wishing > her well. One line says something like, "If you happen to see President > Roosevelt, please tell him to hurry up and get this war over with." It's > been awhile since I've seen this record, but as I recall it's some sort of > clear acetate over cardboard. It defintely plays at 78rpm. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Roy Tony" wrote in message > news:dpsn7o$jfr$3@luna.vcn.bc.ca... > > Anyone actually collect soundsheet records? The records were made of thin > > flexible sheets of plastic. What was useful about them is they were cheap > > to make and could never break when dropped. They were also little harder > > to scratch because the sheet would slide on the turntable if you'd push > > the needle too hard. They were inserted in magazines, books and even sent > > through the mail as a music samples. They were the very first "floppy > > discs"! > > One sound sheet I have was recorded one side only. That sheet is so thin > > you could see the loudest sound passages protruding on the blank side. > > > > The most common sound sheets I've seen are made by Eva-Tone > > (Deerfield Ill). > > The most common title is one put out by Time Life Records titled > > "The Swing Era" Demonstration Record BG-11769 S7 > > > > I have one used by what I think was a dictating machine. The grouves are > > so close together that even a new needle has trouble staying in it. > > It's made by Edison Diamond Disc, McGraw Edison Company. > > > > I recently came across a record made out of cardboard. One side is the > > cardboard the other is just shiny enough for grooves. > > Dancerina: Tchaikovsky selections from Nutcracker Suite. 1968 Mattel inc. > > Auravision a product of Columbia special products. CSM-7858-2A. > > > > I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and > > wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? > > > > -- > > Tony > > > Article: 328943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:29:42 -0500 Message-ID: there was another small flexi-disc product sold out of vending machines around 1969, it was called the "Poketdisc" I think. I had two of them. They were 4" size, and fit in a little pasteboard sleeve. They were hard to play as reject mechinisms on changers wouldnt allow them to play to the end, or at all. I dont recall if they ran at 33 rpm, I think they did. They were very flimsy so the audio was not so good. The concept died out fast, and they, along with all the other flexi-discs and cereal box promos, are very collectable today. I recall an article about this field of collecting... it might have been in one of the collector rags like "Discoveries" or "Gold Mine". Mark Oppat "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and > > wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? > > I'm sure someone must collect them. > > I can think of a few to keep an eye out for... > > I seem to remember plastic-on-cardboard records on the back of cereal boxes > (Wheaties?). > Stereo Review produced two -- a mono recording of Glen Gould's"So You Want > to Write a Fugue?" and a stereo recording of Mirela Freni. > MAD magazine produced two, of excerpts from their LPs. > > > Article: 328944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:33:23 -0500 Message-ID: just found a bunch of listings by googling "Pocket Disc". here is one link: http://www.rarebeatles.com/photospg/flexiad.htm wish I knew where my Pocket Disc of "Get Back" is now... I still MIGHT have it! Mark Oppat "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:u5KdnfaouejoXV_eRVn-jQ@comcast.com... > there was another small flexi-disc product sold out of vending machines > around 1969, it was called the "Poketdisc" I think. I had two of them. > They were 4" size, and fit in a little pasteboard sleeve. They were hard to > play as reject mechinisms on changers wouldnt allow them to play to the end, > or at all. I dont recall if they ran at 33 rpm, I think they did. They > were very flimsy so the audio was not so good. The concept died out fast, > and they, along with all the other flexi-discs and cereal box promos, are > very collectable today. I recall an article about this field of > collecting... it might have been in one of the collector rags like > "Discoveries" or "Gold Mine". > > Mark Oppat > > > "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message > news:0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > > I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets and > > > wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing them? > > > > I'm sure someone must collect them. > > > > I can think of a few to keep an eye out for... > > > > I seem to remember plastic-on-cardboard records on the back of cereal > boxes > > (Wheaties?). > > Stereo Review produced two -- a mono recording of Glen Gould's"So You Want > > to Write a Fugue?" and a stereo recording of Mirela Freni. > > MAD magazine produced two, of excerpts from their LPs. > > > > > > > > > > Article: 328945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:39:10 -0500 Message-ID: just noticed the Goldmine article is on the link below if you scroll down... Mark Oppat "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:Ea6dnZHfkc_MXF_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > just found a bunch of listings by googling "Pocket Disc". here is one link: > > http://www.rarebeatles.com/photospg/flexiad.htm > > wish I knew where my Pocket Disc of "Get Back" is now... I still MIGHT have > it! > > Mark Oppat > > > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:u5KdnfaouejoXV_eRVn-jQ@comcast.com... > > there was another small flexi-disc product sold out of vending machines > > around 1969, it was called the "Poketdisc" I think. I had two of them. > > They were 4" size, and fit in a little pasteboard sleeve. They were hard > to > > play as reject mechinisms on changers wouldnt allow them to play to the > end, > > or at all. I dont recall if they ran at 33 rpm, I think they did. They > > were very flimsy so the audio was not so good. The concept died out fast, > > and they, along with all the other flexi-discs and cereal box promos, are > > very collectable today. I recall an article about this field of > > collecting... it might have been in one of the collector rags like > > "Discoveries" or "Gold Mine". > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message > > news:0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com... > > > > I frequently come across them in second-hand stores and flea markets > and > > > > wondered if there's any value in them? Any special way of storing > them? > > > > > > I'm sure someone must collect them. > > > > > > I can think of a few to keep an eye out for... > > > > > > I seem to remember plastic-on-cardboard records on the back of cereal > > boxes > > > (Wheaties?). > > > Stereo Review produced two -- a mono recording of Glen Gould's"So You > Want > > > to Write a Fugue?" and a stereo recording of Mirela Freni. > > > MAD magazine produced two, of excerpts from their LPs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 328946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:12:05 GMT Hi, They are great to record with. A large number of classic rock recordings were done with small amps like Fender Champs (about 4 watts). You get the advantage of a tube class A sound without the high decibels. Also, keep in mind that the loudness difference between 1 watt and 100 watts is only 4:1. A 1 watt amp into an efficient speaker cabinet can get pretty loud. Mark "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message news:Qnxwf.75477$tV6.59116@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > waldo2384@hotmail.com wrote: > > I just won an adorable little red Temple superhet metal midget on ebay. > > I intend to strip it down to the chassis and cabinet, into which I will > > build the cutest little one watt guitar amp you've ever seen. I am > > sympathetic with the preservationist ideal but... > > > > a) any collector who wanted this could have outbid me on ebay > > > > b) I will preserve the original appearance of the metal cabinet, but it > > is hard for me to see the guts of this cheapie as having much > > historical value. When I'm dead, the next guy can always restore the > > thing back into the crappy little AM radio it used to be, if he wants, > > assuming that AM broadcast radio still even exists by then. > > a) Sounds like you've already made up your mind and are just trying to > ease your conscience > > b) Pardon me, but I have to ask...What ever can you do with a crappy > little *one watt* guitar amplifier (even if it is cute)?????? Article: 328947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bram Stolk" References: <43c2308e$0$74517$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl> Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:46:21 +0100 Message-ID: <43c2cb67$0$893$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl> You had square disks ?, the ones I talked about were circular but did warp so badly they almost became cilyndrical "Clive" schreef in bericht news:dpth64$1g2$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > "Bram Stolk" wrote in message > news:43c2308e$0$74517$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl... >> Howdy youngsters,... >> I remember as a kid we used to have 78 Rpm (speed and size) records made > out >> of brownish carton coated with some early vinyl. > > My father collected a few of these back in the late 1950's, I guess they > must have been some of the first 'flexi-disks' produced running at 78rpm > on > clear, square sheets of plastic. Containing some skiffle tracks which date > them to around 58-59 I guess. > > //Clive. > > Article: 328948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Rectifier socket pin one 'hot' on Hallicrafter S-53 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:19:45 -0330 Finally got around to a) Repairing S-53 (it wasn't a bad 1st IF) it was a microphonic, dirty bearings, tuning cap and b) A defective partially open Vol. control pot. Plus one 'doubtful' tube. Also managed to get four leads off pin 'one' of the rectifier socket, which original production had used as a B+ tie point, onto an added tag-strip; then grounded pin one for safety. Problem being that if one replaces the original glass-tube 5Y3 with a metal 5Z4 it was very uncomfortable/unsafe having its metal-tube outer shell at B+; 'ouch'. Also will add a fuse in the power transformer primary before putting set back in the case. Considering this little radio does not have an RF stage, it's fairly 'hot' on all except the 40 to 54 meg. old mobile band and lowest end of the short-wave band below 6 megs., with a very short inefficient antenna. It uses a mixture of several octal and several B7G tubes. Mainly nostalgia fixing this circa 1955 smallish metal cased radio; owned and used since 1956! Article: 328949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: When did PC boards start to appear?? References: <1136749951.967109.271240@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1136834884.175601.244280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:30:23 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > However, the wires and holes are wasteful. It costs money to drill the > holes, and the protruding wires are merely cut off. > ______________________________________________________ Automated machines sort the parts and assemble them onto taped reels, the parts are cut off the tape, leads bent, and inserted into the circuit boards all by machine. Some parts like transistors used to be made with leads 1.5-2" long, today it is more standard to see leads just long enough to allow auto insertion without having to cut the leads short after soldering. Resistors and capacitors also are made with shorter leads, but still long enough to allow assembling into tape reels. The tape reel assembly can be done at the point where the circuit boards are assembled, or by the jobber selling the parts (IE: Arrow, Allied, Newark, etc). It does cost money to assemble the tape reels and drill the holes, but surface mount technology has it's own extra costs. Different soldering and placement machinery is required. Holes STILL need to be drilled in circuit boards anyway for interlayer vias, but by eliminating many holes surface mount allows more parts to be placed on the same size board, and even allows for parts to be placed on BOTH sides of a circuit board. (soldering such a board is VERY tricky since gravity would tend to unsolder the parts on the bottom while the top was being soldered.) Many parts today are no longer made in through hole which is a pain for prototyping work and hobbyists. There are adapter boards that allow surface mount parts to be used in through hole layouts (and some "surface mount" parts are early leaded parts with the leads cut short and bent). Zenith made some of the earliest transistor radios, and many of them were built on PC boards. Article: 328950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: New parts source Message-ID: Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:16:59 -0500 I saw a new ad in QST for a place called http://www.radiodaze.com They seem to be somewhat reasonable on tubes and have lots of other vintage stuff. Not quite as large an inventory as Antique Radio Supply though. Anybody done any business with these guys? Article: 328951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: New parts source Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:27:07 -0400 Message-ID: <11s5opsgmom7u85@corp.supernews.com> References: Ken Scharf wrote: > I saw a new ad in QST for a place called > http://www.radiodaze.com > > They seem to be somewhat reasonable on tubes > and have lots of other vintage stuff. Not quite > as large an inventory as Antique Radio Supply though. > > Anybody done any business with these guys? Yes indeed, great vendor for radio parts. -Bill Article: 328952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Blake Subject: Re: The very first floppy discs (soundsheets) References: <0fGdncC6iKiFfFzeRVn-gw@comcast.com> <-rednVgSUaQjdVzeRVn-gA@velocitywest.com> Message-ID: Date: 09 Jan 2006 22:30:46 GMT In article , DaveW wrote: > Lost to the time gods is my brother's copy of "It's a Gas" which was an > insert in Mad Magazine. Jazzy music with belches.... I have a cassette tape copy of "It's a Gas" but the sound sheet itself is long gone. I also have the book "Tuva or Bust! - Richard Feynman's Last Journey," which contains a soundsheet of throat singing from Tuva. (I have not played the sheet, which is still inside the book.) This was published in 1991, anyone know of later sound sheets? -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 328953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: New parts source References: Message-ID: D