Article: 329965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <43e0d728$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Trade tubes for tubes? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:30:00 -0600 Message-ID: <43e12937$0$27792$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:SJOdnfLtov4kinzenZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > I have >> multiples of each of them though I tend to "hoard" them for my own sets. > But >> still, all of them show up on eBay regularly; if you get them in lots of >> other useful radio tubes they're available at bargain prices. > > Only metal and GT types, Paul. Well, it takes patience for some of them sometimes. But I've been successful building up my stock of shouldered glass octals by buying lots of used tubes on eBay for a dollar or less apiece. Of course, if you get them cheap when you don't need them, then you have them when you do. I doubt I'm different >from any other hobbyist that way. >> And finally, check the rectifier tube. Schematic says 5Y3, you said 5Y4. >> Make sure you're certain which one the set is supposed to be using. > > Paul, Some sets were prewired for either I think. Both Zenith and Philco > used the 5Y4, few others did. Zenith didn't start with the 5Y4 until 1938; William's set is a 1936 model and was not wired for 5Y4. Somebody was a-hacking around in that set. I'd set it back to 5Y3. Many sets were later modified by servicemen > for either or just the more common 5Y3. Neither are super rare on those, > and G or GT never matters there, or on the 6F6, which did not have a > sheild. Nice to see all G's in a Zenith or Philco that had them > originally, > Metal doesnt belong in either except for a jiffy job. Now, most RCA, GE, > Westinghouse and affiliated makers with them, went all metal (sometimes > the > rectifier and/or the audio outs were glass G types however, and later GT. I'm not above putting a metal tube in the front end of a Zenith if it's going to hide inside a shield anyway. :) But I think only 1936-37 sets were set up well for metals, later than that you need to get the tall glass tubes because the grid leads were shorter and they stopped grounding pin 1 of the sockets. My Silvertones tolerate metals too. But I imagine no Philco was set up for metal tubes at all.......... Article: 329966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson revived...or...THAT flying saucer thang works! References: <1138830194.986092.146050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:09:33 GMT Mick wrote: > See the story of restoring this amp here: > www.CharlestonArea.com/Dickerson Congratulations Mick on a job well done. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson revived...or...THAT flying saucer thang works! Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 18:14:15 -0400 Message-ID: <11u2clno1pib96f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138830194.986092.146050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Mick wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Some of you may remember the question I had late last year, trying to > identify a "flying saucer" looking part in an old amplifier. > See the story of restoring this amp here: > www.CharlestonArea.com/Dickerson > > Thanks again to the wise folks who ID'd the bias cell! > > Mick > Good job, Mike. I had never heard of boiling the bias cell as you did. Sounds like an ideal way of doing it. -Bill Article: 329968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I remember.... Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:00:08 -0600 Message-ID: <20641-43E13D78-318@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1138831374.408728.281430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Billions of roof top tv antennas everywhere you look,(nowdays it's satellite tv antennas) billions of window unit airconditioners everywhere you look,especially in most of the windows of down town office buildings and hotels and apartment buildings,billions of miles long overhead wires up there on those old power poles and those billions of glass and ceramic insulators.I own half a dozen of those old,old really nice looking tv top rabbit ears tv antennas that date back to the 1940's and 1950's,in their own way,they are works of Art. cuhulin Article: 329969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT - bad mood? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:37:44 -0600 Message-ID: <6544-43E14648-296@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: A sick old guy was laying up in his death bed.He got a visitor,his visitor moved a chair around to sit in.The old guy said,You leave that chair alone! His visitor said,Why? The old guy said,I am expecting rigor mortis to set in. cuhulin Article: 329970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Radiola 33 Cover Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:52:59 GMT I recently acquired a nice Radiola 33, but the top has some defects. Mainly, the pot-metal trim is broken and some pieces are missing. Does anyone have a Radiola top with the trim intact, some good pieces of trim, or perhaps a source for a modern reproduction? Thanks. Article: 329971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT - bad mood? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:41:16 -0600 Message-ID: <6543-43E1471C-1289@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Mommy,why do I keep walking around in circles? Shut up or I will nail your other foot down! cuhulin Article: 329972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: *Spanish Spam* Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 17:43:33 -0600 Message-ID: <6543-43E147A5-1290@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1138685762.314148.271680@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> http://friedspam.net cuhulin Article: 329973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Shipping 78's References: <1138834176.327337.119680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 19:02:44 -0500 Don't use UPS. Ken perryirwin@gmail.com wrote: > Any tips as how to have them arrive intact? Bubble wrap ok (the large > type) or do you need more protection. Just looking to ship one at a > time. TIA. > Article: 329974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <1138814539.467354.176280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Trade tubes for tubes? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:04:23 GMT > (How does one > determine tube value?) It depends on what you want to know; what most retailers charge, or what most people are actually willing to pay. If the former, you just look through an AES catalog like you did. If the latter, just do a search of completed Ebay listings. In general, tubes on Ebay go for much less than retail. I recently bought a couple dozen NOS 1-volt loktals (1LC5, 1LH4 etc) for less than $20 - full retail would have cost more than 10 times that. Like someone else suggested, retailers like AES have to price things up to compensate for the costs of storage (and cataloging, marketing, etc), so it's really not their fault. Maybe they should just sell on Ebay like everybody else...... My advice is to do some Ebay searching, you may be able to get all the tubes in one bunch for dirt cheap. Article: 329975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Radiola 33 Cover Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:56:51 GMT I have a 33 that is probably in the "parts" category, Ill have to check the top trim. Do you have the matching speaker for yours? Keith "Chris F." wrote in message news:vRbEf.8123$VV4.137637@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > I recently acquired a nice Radiola 33, but the top has some defects. > Mainly, the pot-metal trim is broken and some pieces are missing. Does > anyone have a Radiola top with the trim intact, some good pieces of trim, > or > perhaps a source for a modern reproduction? > Thanks. > > Article: 329976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Philips BX435A Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:29:20 -0400 Message-ID: <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> gabe2004@gmail.com wrote: > Hi. I posted to this group a while ago. Here's the problem. Short > wave doesn't work at all. AM works a little, I get a few stations. FM > is even worse, I get only 2 stations. Also, the tuning eye is > illuminated but doesnt do anything. Another thing i noticed is that it > sometimes suddenly gets drastically louder or softer. I think it must > be some tube issue. It has the following tubes: >> > Any ideas of what to try replacing? Thanks. > I hope I can say this without coming off too negative sounding. You really should consider replacing all the old paper caps. I suspect in that vintage Philips (1953?) you have the black bulky/tarry looking ones? They really aren't very good and would continue causing problems in the future. The euro-style resistors with the crimped on ends can also be problematic as you will see in poking around when the ends fall off. But, for a quickie, try using contact cleaner on the bandswitch and tube pins/sockets. That may get the radio back to some semblance of playing. Defective tubes are not as prevalent as one might think. I'd change all the caps before I'd even haul out the tube tester :) The eye tube responds to signal strength. If the circuit is weak and has problems there is not enough strength to make it deflect. There could be other issues inhibiting deflection, to wit there is usually a ~2 Meg resistor in the plate circuit of the eye tube that is often found to have drifted too high in resistance value. Old Philips sets can be a bear to work on but are very good sets when all is in order. Not a beginner's project. The fact that this one has FM from that era makes it unique and would keep it out of most people's trash can. -Bill Article: 329977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: Atwater Kent Model 35 with Model H Speaker Date: 1 Feb 2006 17:14:56 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1138742323.955978.204330@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In article <1138742323.955978.204330@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... > >I have been asked to "repair"an Atwater Kent Model 35 complete with >Model H speaker. I've looked the set over carefully and there are a >multitude of problems. I'm hoping that the group can kindly provide me >with some advice on solving a few of the knottier ones. Here goes: > >1) The three variable capacitors were ganged together by means of three >pot metal pulleys and some sort of flexible belts. The pulleys have >deteriorated and are crumbling, and the belts have long since >disappeared. Does anyone know of a source for the pulleys other than >AES at US $25.00 each, or should I have a go at making my own? The pot metal deteriorates with age. It has to do with an improper contamination when it was first cast. Basically you need to find somebody nearby with a lathe to make one of the one kind, and two of the other. Brass is a good choice really. The belts can easily be made of brass shim stock, cut in a long narrow strip with the ends soldered together. The tough part is punching the two tiny holes to mate up to the pins that have to be on the perimeter of the sheaves. If you had a lathe in the shop you could do it yourself for the cost of the stock, otherwise you would probably pay about, er, 25 bucks each for one-offs. I don't think AES is getting rich with that price.... Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 329978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: GR 650-P1 Oscillator References: <1138843881.235652.48890@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:22:19 -0500 james wrote: > I am looking for a General Radio 650-P1 Oscillator/Amplifier module for > a GR 650 Impedance Bridge. Anyone got one for sale? > > Thanks > > James L. Wiley > jlwiley123 at earthlink dot net > These guys aren't the cheapes place on the planet but sometimes they have stuff like that stashed away : http://www.testequipmentcanada.com/ -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 329979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: GR 650-P1 Oscillator References: <1138843881.235652.48890@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 02:56:24 GMT John Bartley wrote: > These guys aren't the cheapes place on the planet but sometimes they > have stuff like that stashed away : > > http://www.testequipmentcanada.com/ I'll vouche for them. I've had excellent results dealing with them. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1138830194.986092.146050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4bmdnU6MzZ47znzenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson revived...or...THAT flying saucer thang works! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:29:50 -0500 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:4bmdnU6MzZ47znzenZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com... > That is just about the coolest looking amp I have ever seen. > > Phil Nelson I agree! I have NEVER seen mother of pearl used like that (guitar amp). Article: 329981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Philco 20 Audio Interstage Transformer Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:14:00 GMT Does anyone have a spare interstage transformer for a Philco 20? This is the one that couples the plate of the 27 to the grids of two 71A's. Thanks. Article: 329982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HUGE lot of 40+ LP RECORDS-12" SHELLAC-1900-50 ERA-RARE ! From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:38:40 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1138207600.612665.261410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> you know, here in LA, Rhino records decided to close their westwood retail store this weekend - LPs were mostly 10 cents each, lots of guys buying to resell on e-bay. mostly junk, per my tastes, but cheap junk On 25 Jan 2006 08:46:40 -0800, "66fourdoor" all sorts of stuff snipped Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Feb 6 21:12:45 EST 2006 Article: 329983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: I remember.... References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 14 Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 04:41:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1138855277 66.65.49.10 (Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:41:17 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:41:17 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-east.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:329983 In article , Bill Jeffrey wrote: > And you didn't "deserve" anything until you had earned it in some way. I still subscribe to that. > Today's "I deserve ..." advertising and life style drives me nuts. Do All this past week the old "you don't deserve respect; you earn it" has really been ringing true. It seems like I've certainly earned it from my co-workers. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 329984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: All tubes test leaky - dishwasher? Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:51:54 -0400 Message-ID: <11u33va889bu33e@corp.supernews.com> References: <7NzDf.5745$lb.500390@news1.epix.net> <1138721526.860603.170420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138817250.213659.23030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > > 5. Don't ever run tubes through a dishwasher. > > 6. In case that's not clear, don't EVER put your tubes in a dishwasher. They > were not designed to withstand that treatment and it is completely > unnecessary. Over the years, I have gotten email from all sorts of dumbasses > who tortured their radios in carwashes, microwaves, dishwashers, pressure > washers, etc. A couple of those radios survived. Most of them perished for > obvious reasons. > > Sorry if this sounds a bit cranky, but I just pictured dozens of newbies > reading this thread and imagining they could magically improve the > perfomance of their radios by tossing all of the tubes into a dishwasher. > Not! > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Thank you, Phil -Bill Article: 329985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: I remember.... Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 00:54:55 -0400 Message-ID: <11u345163jllq31@corp.supernews.com> References: Stephanie Weil wrote: > In article , Bill Jeffrey wrote: > >>And you didn't "deserve" anything until you had earned it in some way. > > > I still subscribe to that. > > >>Today's "I deserve ..." advertising and life style drives me nuts. Do > > > All this past week the old "you don't deserve respect; you earn it" has > really been ringing true. It seems like I've certainly earned it from my > co-workers. > Hey, I work hard and earn my check and dammit I'll talk as loud as I want to on my cell phone wherever I damn well please. If you don't like it then don't listen. Sound familiar? -Bill Article: 329986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Dial Covers References: <13514-43D6A57A-2437@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1138149605.600111.220670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1138156846.975630.276400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87qet19mbt007d7iji07vt86eqr3q66q5h@4ax.com> <1GTBf.115333$ME5.99513@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <1138279371.688734.136360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <3hhht1pj524s7nheks4vrrepkqe698nkbe@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:45:30 GMT John, glad to see you are going into this business as there is a real need for it now. I had Mike Stewart make me a cover for a Crosley Victory model and it's not an easy one to make. He did a great job on it, must have been just before he quit. Too bad you couldn't buy his molds and such as I imagine there is quite a bit of time involved making them. Good luck with your venture and I hope you will be at it for a long time. John Bachman wrote: > Hi Eddie, > > Yes, I not only saw that but used it extensively to develop my own > methods. > > I have to apologize to everyone for my short messages yesterday. I > was really overwhelmed with a bunch of extraneous things yesterday and > was not able to pay close attention to important stuff like antique > radios. > > I was one of the ones who negotiated with Mike Stewart to buy his > dialcover business. Mike when quiet on us all sometime in early Dec. > - I have no idea what happened to him. > > As a result I began investigating dial cover manufacturer using a > vacuum press and built my own oven/press in my shop. I also learned > how to work with resin casting material, eliminating bubbles, etc. I > am using Alumilite right now but intend to investigate other materials > as time permits. > > I am now ready to make dial covers for sale. As I mentioned before, > the round ones up to 9" diameter are easy. > > Rectangular and other shapes are more difficult. I do not use the > masonite/hardboard cutout method because it results in a flat face - > most dialcovers are not absolutely flat but have a 3-dimensional > effect. I am making molds out of resin casting material and machining > them to the shape desired. This works nicely, can be defect free but > still will never exactly match the shape of the original. That is why > I asked for originals if available. > > If there is no original then a sketch of the cutout outline along with > any other available details such as depth, material thickness, even a > picture would be helpful. Then I can come very close to the original. > > I will also supply the little rivets and will install the cover into > your bezel if you want. > > I hope that this fuller explanation is helpful to you. > > Email me johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVE.mv.com > > John > > On 26 Jan 2006 04:42:51 -0800, "Eddie Brimer" > wrote: > > >>http://members.aol.com/EB062559/DIALCOVERS.html >> >>just in case some haven't see it. Article: 329987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Old radios are following me! (Zenith K731 found) From: "William R. Walsh" Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:15:08 GMT Message-ID: Actually, this one followed my dad...a man on his mail route saw him out and handed this radio over to him. It's a Zenith K731. The man who gave it to him said it played and asked him if he was interested in another old radio. In turn, my dad brought it to me. Well, I'd have to say it is in above-average condition...the cabinet is in good shape (only one minor boo-boo on the top and front left corner), the dial cover is perfect, grille cloth looks new and all four legs are excellent. (I suspect the legs were one of the first casualties with a radio like this one.) It plays quite well too. While the chassis and construction are similar to the 7C05, the tone seems to be a bit 'flatter' overall. Tuning is also a bit more precise. There is no phono input, however. Oh, and while the controls do need a cleaning, this radio has been recapped. The selenium rectifier is still in place. Anyone who's interested can see pictures here: http://greyghost.dyndns.org/zenithk731/ All are 640x480 and range from 30 to 50KB in size. I didn't post to the binaries because it sounds like more and more people are having trouble getting there lately. (I can still get there, but posts are lucky to last an hour.) I'm beginning to think that once you have a few old radios, the other ones you don't yet have somehow 'learn' of this and start to follow you! That's OK...I've got the room and I like them. :-) William From adouglasatgis.net Mon Feb 6 21:12:47 EST 2006 Article: 329989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Heathkit Tube Tester TT-1 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:21:23 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <1138283059.092976.42310@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1138295156.857403.227760@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-127.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!diablo.efnet.com!efnet.com!dedekind.zen.co.uk!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newstransit.mitre.org!news.tufts.edu!bigboote.WPI.EDU!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:329989 Hi, I could never get my TT-1 to calibrate according to the manual, so finally sent it to Chris who had worked on a number of them. With his experience he was able to sort out most of the problems. As I recall he had to take the meter apart to replace the diodes inside, or something like that. Time-consuming, in any event. I'm still not wild about some of Heath's design choices, or the goofy scale multipliers (but those were Weston's doing. Heath couldn't possibly have re-tested thousands of tubes to compile a new database, so had to use the same test conditions that Weston did). My TT-1 was $20 at the Hosstraders hamfest and I passed it up on my first round before talking myself into buying it. How times change. That was maybe ten years ago. Alan Article: 329990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson revived...or...THAT flying saucer thang works! Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:09:28 -0800 Message-ID: <8993-43E1A218-704@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <1138837122.439823.296410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> From: bretldwig@yahoo.com (Bret=A0Ludwig): >The bias cell will probably die without >warning and then the tube and possibly >the rewound OPT would fail. Unless the 1st AF stage is DC-coupled to the output tube, this would not happen. Mike indicates a .01mf cap is used for coupling. So any bias change on the first stage would not affect current in the output tube. (And the rewind was done to power tranny, not the output.) Incidently Mike, the .01mf would not be an electrolytic type. Electroytics generally don't come in values below 1 mf or so. Bill(oc) Article: 329991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E1A494.1C611D92@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I remember.... References: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:20:50 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > > In article , Bill Jeffrey wrote: > > And you didn't "deserve" anything until you had earned it in some way. > > I still subscribe to that. > > > Today's "I deserve ..." advertising and life style drives me nuts. Do > > All this past week the old "you don't deserve respect; you earn it" has > really been ringing true. It seems like I've certainly earned it from my > co-workers. > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. Good for you! :) I tell people that you not only have to "Earn" espect, but you have to earn it every day. Some feel that once is good enough, and can't understand why people laugh at them behind their backs. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" Subject: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:27:04 GMT Hello all...me again, with another potentially silly question. I have some radios (all Zenith units) that feature an RCA plug that can be used to play a turntable into the radio. These radios appear to be designed for a turntable with a ceramic cartridge as opposed to a magnetic one. As such, the phono plug seems to make a fine line-input for iPods, CD players and other items. So far I've used a tape deck, iPod mini and a Technics component type CD player with no issues. However, I do have a concern about the safety of doing this, especially since a Zenith radio similar to one of the units with an input carries a warning on the back stating that the chassis is connected to one side of the AC line. Is there any reason to be worried about electrical shock when connecting equipment to play through these radios and their phono plugs? I'd rather not get an unpleasant or painful surprise. William Article: 329993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 07:07:24 GMT William R. Walsh wrote: > Hello all...me again, with another potentially silly question. As i tell my techs, "The only silly (stupid) questions are the ones that go unasked. > especially since a Zenith radio similar to one of the units with > an input carries a warning on the back stating that the chassis > is connected to one side of the AC line. Any chassis that is NOT connected to safety ground is potentially lethal. That being said, battery operated things can be safely connected to the AUX inputs to old radios since they themselves don't have any external connections. One thing to bear in mind with AC powered audio with capacitor coupling. Some of the designs have a fairly large DC voltage on the other side of the capacitor. This can prove fatal to some solid state equipment that is connected AFTER the AC equipment is turned on. Due to the low impedance output being suddenly attached to the capacitor. A notorious example of this was the Heath H-10 monitor scope. (Amateur radio accessory) When you'd flip the function switch >from internal sweep to external horizontal input, it would discharge the coupling capacitor through the external device. I smoked a Kantronics KAM finding that out the hard way. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 03:09:00 -0400 Message-ID: <11u3c0e67j8ft28@corp.supernews.com> References: William R. Walsh wrote: > > Is there any reason to be worried about electrical shock when connecting > equipment to play through these radios and their phono plugs? I'd rather not > get an unpleasant or painful surprise. > > William Yes. One can't make a blanket statement like "shoot, it works for me" because when you attempt to connect any ersatz old thing you may get into ground loop issues that do nothing but hum or AC isolation issues that don't hum well because they immediately fry a solid state device. If you are dealing with battery powered things like a Walkman you're generally free from concern if the coupling cap in the tube set isn't somehow creating too much leakage. But when you are connecting other AC powered appliances you're on your own when you start connecting chassis of different potential because the plug *might* be turned the wrong way. I can name a couple of occasions of my own of zapping a computer sound card or my Aiwa steereo while messing around with connecting one of those hot chassis 'home broadcaster' rigs. Safest bet would be to make up a shielded patch cord for such experimentation that has a cap....01 or .05, etc on both the hot side and the shield side. That will save your gear. You can still get zapped messing with mismatched chassis but you'll probably recover whereas the solid-state stuff will not. -Bill Article: 329995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Metal (octal) tube socket, Pin 1!!!!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 03:29:44 -0330 From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Trade tubes for tubes? Date: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:02 PM If you check the Zenith ads for 1936/37, they claim they will accept METAL or GLASS tubes. They will also accept GT versions. If you use metal or GT, don't toss the tube shields! Sometimes the grid lead is long enough to use the metal/GT and tube shield. For 5Y3 and 6F6, it doesn't matter since they don't normally use shields. Sometimes on Zeniths the socket for 6F6 will also say 6L6. Word of suggestion: if/when you replace a glass (octal based) tube with a metal one make sure that Pin 1 of is actually grounded (to chassis etc.). Not, as in one instance, where Pin 1 of a certain tube socket had been used in original factory wiring of the radio, as a tie point for B+. Probably to save cost? As a result the metal shield of the metal tube 'now' plugged into that socket was 'live' ...... Ouch ......... ! We added a small terminal strip bolted to chassis to provide an alternative connection point for the B+ wires and also connected Pin 1 directly to a chassis ground. Article: 329996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Trying to explain transformer ratio and impedance matching! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 04:20:17 -0330 I was trying to explain impedance matching using a transformer to someone who has got as far as understanding volts and amps (basic Ohm's Law) and came up with this idea. Drew two block diagrams, to represent two transformers, on a sheet of paper. The first one has an in put of 10 volts at 2 amp. It also has an output of 10 volts at 2 amp. (Ignore transformer and other losses). The resistance (i.e. Impedance) of both input and output is 10/2 = 5 ohms. Five ohms in and five ohms out; as it were. And power in is 10 x 2 = 20 watts. The second transformer also has an input of 10 volts at 2 amp. Its output is 20 volts at one amp; so power in and out is also 20 watts. The resistance ratio (i.e. impedance) in is still 10/2 = 5 ohms, But the output is 20/1 = 20 ohms. So in second example; while the voltage is double and the current is half, the impedance ratio is 'four' times! In other words it's the square of the voltage 'ratio', 20/10 x 20/10 or in this case 2 x 2 = 4, that determines the impedance transformation; right? You can try it out with other ratios (ignoring transformer losses etc.) in order to demonstrate. For example 500 volts 0.2 amp input, 100 volts at 1.0 amp out. The 500 volts in and 100 out is a voltage ratio of 500/100 = 5: 1. The impedance ratio is 500/1 to 100/0.2 or 25:1 (Or 5 squared). This OK or does it mislead in any way? Article: 329997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: flipper Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson revived...or...THAT flying saucer thang works! Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 02:09:21 -0600 Message-ID: <4gf3u1985m0leutn22dhanucgtk82a2ui5@4ax.com> References: <1138830194.986092.146050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 1 Feb 2006 13:43:15 -0800, "Mick" wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Some of you may remember the question I had late last year, trying to >identify a "flying saucer" looking part in an old amplifier. It was >successfully identified as a battery bias cell to bias the preamp tube. > >The transformer for that amp had burnt up, due to shorts in the rotted >wiring. I was able to send the transformer off for a rebuild in >December. I received the rebuilt transformer for this 1940s Dickerson >MOP (a.k.a MOTS) amp on Sunday. It is now up and running sweet. > >See the story of restoring this amp here: >www.CharlestonArea.com/Dickerson > >Will cut some sound on it soon. > >Thanks again to the wise folks who ID'd the bias cell! > >Mick Congratulations. Looks great! Article: 329998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: What's going on here??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:27:59 -0500 This set seldome sells for more than $50, and here it is at $202, 32 bids, and 7 days to go. Creative marketing??? Ken http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7385224529 Article: 329999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1138883916.488548.67880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Somewhat OT : NASA Suitsat, anyone going to tune in? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:21:17 -0500 Won't that look spooky to future space travellers? I think they should put a McDonald's sign on it, and it's certain to be the first ad in space. Article: 330000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What's going on here??? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:55:02 -0700 Message-ID: <3845-43E20F36-1858@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: 2 or more people with million dollar incomes want it . These people just happened to tune into ebay at the same time . Article: 330001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What's going on here??? References: <3845-43E20F36-1858@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1138890556.146610.306410@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:42:02 -0500 The last $150 worth of bids are by the same gal. How does that work? Why wouldn't her additional bids just raise her max rather than raise the bid amount??? I don't think I trust this guy. Ken AuroraOldRadios wrote: > He's found a way to market nice specimens for big bucks. If you or I > offered the same thing we'd be lucky to get $50. I have super nice > Radiola bakelite - as good as any he's offered -and I couldn't get $60 > for it. Maybe I'll take some snazzy pictures with my new digital camera > and see what happens. > Article: 330002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1138890688.003195.113020@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Metal (octal) tube socket, Pin 1!!!!! Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:47:19 -0600 Message-ID: <43e22a61$0$27806$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1138890688.003195.113020@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Was that in a 1936/37 Zenith? No, those sets are perfectly happy with metal tubes, in fact the schematics for those sets and the advertising literature of the time specifically mention they can be used. Pin 1 of each socket is properly grounded in these. After that they just tended to leave pin 1 float. Which means you could still use a metal tube, but in the front end they have to be shielded. :-) And then there's the not-so-small matter of whether the grid cap lead will reach over the top of the shield down to the cap. If that's a problem maybe you can find one of those short GT-height shields. One of my Silvertone consoles came with two of them, shielding 6K7GTs that replaced original 6K7Gs. That, or ground pin 1 at the socket if you can and you really feel an overwhelming urge to put a metal tube in a set like this. Jm2c paul Article: 330003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What's going on here??? References: <3845-43E20F36-1858@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1138890556.146610.306410@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:47:41 -0500 Oops, didn't see Sandy's bid. Ken wrote: > The last $150 worth of bids are by the same gal. How does that work? Why > wouldn't her additional bids just raise her max rather than raise the > bid amount??? I don't think I trust this guy. Ken > > AuroraOldRadios wrote: > >> He's found a way to market nice specimens for big bucks. If you or I >> offered the same thing we'd be lucky to get $50. I have super nice >> Radiola bakelite - as good as any he's offered -and I couldn't get $60 >> for it. Maybe I'll take some snazzy pictures with my new digital camera >> and see what happens. >> > Article: 330004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: Subject: Re: Radiola 33 Cover Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:58:12 GMT I have a Radiola 100 speaker, is that a correct match? "Keith Park" wrote in message news:nNcEf.1934$5Q3.720@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I have a 33 that is probably in the "parts" category, Ill have to check the > top trim. > Do you have the matching speaker for yours? > > Keith > > > "Chris F." wrote in message > news:vRbEf.8123$VV4.137637@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > I recently acquired a nice Radiola 33, but the top has some defects. > > Mainly, the pot-metal trim is broken and some pieces are missing. Does > > anyone have a Radiola top with the trim intact, some good pieces of trim, > > or > > perhaps a source for a modern reproduction? > > Thanks. > > > > > > Article: 330005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Power transformer needed Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:17:57 -0800 Message-ID: <24692-43E230B5-954@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: Gary, Why dontcha do this - just sub in a 6V xfmr from a radio that uses a tube rectifier. That should work well enuff to tell you yea or nay. Having owned a '48 Buick radio many years ago, i can vouch it's an awesome sounding radio. Used it in a '37 Plymouth. Had to reverse polarity, which is done by switching the two HV secondary leads. Bill(oc) Article: 330006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Power transformer needed Message-ID: <3zqEf.4345$5E3.4103@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:37:19 GMT Yes, AAR has a huge warehouse chock full of old car radios, many of them rare. I called this morning and asked for Dan to return the call -- he's not in yet. However I'm 99% certain what the answer will be. I have not quite been able to figure him out. He has this huge stockpile of radios, and he's complaining that they're taking up space. Since he's now building new retro radios, he needs the room for parts storage and manufacturing. I've asked him many times what he intends to do with the radios in there, he says he doesn't know yet. I've asked -- why not sell them to dealers? At least 3 times a week I get inquiries of whether I have a certain radio; I could purchase, then either convert or rebuild, and sell it. So can other dealers, and as the warehouse empties out, he would have the room. His only answer is that he'll let me know when he decides. I did manage to get all of his 55, 56, and 57 Chevy radios (manual tune). If you saw the photo of the trunk of my car a few months ago, that was it. I still have most of them, but they are slowly being picked for parts. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:xvOdnbF_774zr3_eRVn-pA@comcast.com... > Gary, > Doesnt Antique Automobile Radio have huge stockpile of junk auto rados? > Or, dont they have a master list of dealers they sell to that you could > use > as a database for sources? I know I have seen a few other auto radio > rebuilders on eBay that imply they have warehouses full of auto radios... > > Mark > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:ZYpEf.535$UF1.412@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> In the "I got burned" department: >> >> Somebody sent me a radio from a 48 Buick for repair/rebuild. Without >> even >> applying 6 volts, I began by pulling the vibrator and feeding it with my > B+ >> power supply. Went right into overcurrent -- bad electrolytics. So I >> replaced these, and had to special order the (synchronous) vibrator and >> buffers. Meanwhile I recapped the radio, did some mechanical work on the >> tuner, and basically did a rebuild. I ohmed out the power transformer, >> appears okay. Plays fine on the power supply, current is now normal. >> >> Eventually the vibrator and buffers came in. Installed, applied power, >> dead. B+ measures around 140v when first turned on, and as the tubes >> warm >> up it drops to around 12 volts. Original vibrator is definitely bad, so >> I >> can't sub. Power transformer secondary measures differently now than >> before -- in fact each time I try the radio I measure the secondary >> again. >> I get anywhere from 110 to 600 ohms. I guess it didn't open, just > increased >> resistance (???). >> >> Now -- one of the benefits of conversions is the source for special >> parts. >> IF's, transformers, and even complete chassis for certain radios get > saved, >> and I'm getting a fair collection. However in this case I don't have a >> transformer for a 48 Buick -- I have a 50, a 54, and a 55, but these are >> different -- and use a conventional vibrator. So, until the day when I > can >> either convert a 48 Buick, or locate a junk radio, is there anyone out > there >> who might have such a beast? The radio model number is 980798, the >> transformer part number is 7256939. >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> > > > Article: 330007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I remember.... From: eccles@idiot.gov (Tom Lager) References: <11u0gkohscmf919@corp.supernews.com> <975D9BAACLagertptdnet@140.99.99.130> <1138831374.408728.281430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <975E76872Lagertptdnet@140.99.99.130> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:54:35 GMT stephanienyc@gmail.com (Stephanie Weil) wrote in <1138831374.408728.281430 @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: > >Tom Lager wrote: >> Dad and some of the neighbors >> got the idea of putting a set of antennas on the mountain, about 500' >> higher than our part of town, and running wire to our houses. > >Sounds like your dad was a part of broadcasting history. You're >describing one of the first CATV (back then it stood for Community >Antenna Tele Vision) systems. :) > > A fellow over in Lansford, Pa. had the idea first, about 1950, as did a guy in Mahanoy City. They have been arguing for years as to who was first. -- So long and thanks for all the fish. Article: 330008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: What's going on here??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:03:23 GMT The seller is a master BS artist. -- Mike Schultz "Ken" wrote in message news:g1mEf.12028$oG.9518@dukeread09... > This set seldome sells for more than $50, and here it is at $202, 32 bids, > and 7 days to go. Creative marketing??? Ken > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7385224529 > Article: 330009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Power transformer needed Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:37:58 -0500 Message-ID: <44eubqF1rkfbU1@individual.net> References: <2BqEf.4346$5E3.97@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Gary Tayman wrote: > I might add that I found a radio on eBay that appears to be the same, even > though listed as a 49. I've asked the model number; if compatible I'll > bid. > > By the way, I found this same transformer is used in models 980798, > 980797, and 980782. > > Gary i have a late 40s buick radio here somewhere but, i have got to take some time to dig it out. meanwhile, does your radio have a push-pull 6v6 output as well as a RF amp stage in the tuning? i think the differences in the power transformers were attributed to what type of output stage those radios used. i will look for it & post here if i have it. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 330010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Metal (octal) tube socket, Pin 1!!!!! Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:20:52 -0800 Message-ID: <13373-43E24D84-357@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: I agree with Terry about B+ may be tied to pin #1 on some sets. I found this out on a Zenith, maybe a 1938 or 1939 model. The tube had about 250 volts on the outside metal. I found that out without using a meter. Also on a 1938 12 tube set a friend was having a problem with it. I told him to try a glass tube in place of the metal one, and his problem disappeared. Article: 330011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Looking for lid for Stew.W. 801-811B Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:37:35 -0800 Message-ID: <13372-43E2516F-1347@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: You may want to hang onto it for a while. You may be able to find the lid for it. Did you try posting on the Forum? Either looking for the lid, or selling the set. I know a guy nearby here (NE Washington) that may be interested in it. It uses a model 435 speaker. Also the speaker could be screwed on to the top lid. An ad for the set is in Radio Manufactures Of The 1920's, Vol#3 page 149, also shows 5 console cabinets that the set may go in. The one I have works. Article: 330012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" References: Subject: Re: FYI, Make your own chassis mount washers Message-ID: <43e25f96@news.meer.net> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:39:37 -0500 Ken, Haven't heard from you lately. Still doing radios I see "Ken" wrote in message news:yZxAf.1587$oG.595@dukeread09... > It is difficult for me to find the soft type mounting washers for tuning > caps and phono motors, mostly I find the hard rubber type. I found that a > silicone sealant will form the kind of washer I'm looking for, soft and > plyable. Start with a block of paraffin wax, drill a hole the correct > diameter and depth of the washer needed, (I fashioned a bit from an old > screw, but a forstner bit is better), shoot some Dap Silicone Ultra in the > hole, press down with a spatula to get the air bubbles out, and wait 3-4 > days for it to set. Remove the washer. It will seperate easily from the > wax. You can then fashion a hollow punch from the right size metal tube or > use a hollow punch set and punch the center hole out. This worked great in > my current project. This is not as good as the mounting grommets that > surround the center eylett, but hey, this is home brew. Ken > Article: 330013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E26ED1.1090209@sympatico.ca> From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Looking for lid for Stew.W. 801-811B References: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:42:57 -0500 Blacksmith wrote: > I acquired a Stewart Warner model 801 or 811B (not sure). I was going > to part it out and save the tubes since it's in a metal cabinet and > the lid is missing. > > Anyone have a spare lid I could purchase so I can keep it intact? > > What kind of speaker did this animal use, anyway? I have a complete cabinet here in dark green with lid etc. No chassis, no bezel. The lid has some sort of a floral arrangement painted in the centre - looks original - maybe we could chat about a trade or something ... -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 330014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Looking for lid for Stew.W. 801-811B References: <43E26ED1.1090209@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <0auEf.11707$Iw6.671886@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 15:43:42 -0500 John Bartley wrote: > > I have a complete cabinet here in dark green with lid etc. No chassis, > no bezel. The lid has some sort of a floral arrangement painted in the > centre - looks original - maybe we could chat about a trade or something > ... > One more thing ... mine is a SW model 801 series B. -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 330015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <11u3c0e67j8ft28@corp.supernews.com> <1138911389.833901.294840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:16:59 GMT I am surprised nobody has cautioned against using an AC adapter with these. Many new ones are not transformer isolated. Ray "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message news:1138911389.833901.294840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Mark Oppat wrote: >> dont scare the original poster, if he is using battery powered devices, >> there is absolutely no danger to those by using them here. Other AC home >> audio have no chassis bond to ground usually unless you see a 3 pin plug. >> Otherwise, they tend to have a polarized AC plug, but have a transformer >> supply anyways, so I suppose the chassis might be capacitively coupled >> to >> neutral. >> >> Also, Jeff mentions the possiblity of higher voltage DC on those jacks. >> Jeff, no radio that had an AUX input ever had a situation where anything >> but >> the smallest DC voltages might be present. So, they are all safe to use >> with battery powered devices. > > You are assuming the battery powered device is floating and stays that > way. In the case of a all-plastic transistor radio that's an okay > assumption. An iPod has a metal case. Who knows what potentials it can > resist from where to where? > > I would modify the radio to have a grounded chassis or use an audio > transformer for isolation. On a transistor radio you can fix them if > they get zapped but an iPod is 1) worth more than the radio and 2) > unfixable, at least by me. > Article: 330016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... References: <11u3c0e67j8ft28@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:37:35 GMT I don't think Bill is trying to scare anyone but has some good advise. One fatal assumption is that the vintage equipment is in perfect electrical condition, not always the case. I would agree the best situation is to use only battery powered sources if you are not very familiar with the technical aspects of old AC-DC line operated equipment which would never get near a shelf in any retail outlet today. Mark Oppat wrote: > dont scare the original poster, if he is using battery powered devices, > there is absolutely no danger to those by using them here. Other AC home > audio have no chassis bond to ground usually unless you see a 3 pin plug. > Otherwise, they tend to have a polarized AC plug, but have a transformer > supply anyways, so I suppose the chassis might be capacitively coupled to > neutral. > > Also, Jeff mentions the possiblity of higher voltage DC on those jacks. > Jeff, no radio that had an AUX input ever had a situation where anything but > the smallest DC voltages might be present. So, they are all safe to use > with battery powered devices. > > Mark Oppat > > > > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:11u3c0e67j8ft28@corp.supernews.com... >> William R. Walsh wrote: >> >> >>> Is there any reason to be worried about electrical shock when connecting >>> equipment to play through these radios and their phono plugs? I'd rather > not >>> get an unpleasant or painful surprise. >>> >>> William >> Yes. One can't make a blanket statement like "shoot, it works for me" >> because when you attempt to connect any ersatz old thing you may get >> into ground loop issues that do nothing but hum or AC isolation issues >> that don't hum well because they immediately fry a solid state device. >> >> If you are dealing with battery powered things like a Walkman you're >> generally free from concern if the coupling cap in the tube set isn't >> somehow creating too much leakage. But when you are connecting other AC >> powered appliances you're on your own when you start connecting chassis >> of different potential because the plug *might* be turned the wrong way. >> I can name a couple of occasions of my own of zapping a computer sound >> card or my Aiwa steereo while messing around with connecting one of >> those hot chassis 'home broadcaster' rigs. >> >> Safest bet would be to make up a shielded patch cord for such >> experimentation that has a cap....01 or .05, etc on both the hot side >> and the shield side. That will save your gear. You can still get >> zapped messing with mismatched chassis but you'll probably recover >> whereas the solid-state stuff will not. >> >> >> -Bill >> > > > Article: 330017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jhill" Subject: Re: Photofact TR31? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:59:13 -0600 Message-ID: References: Make that a scan of, not a copy of! "jhill" wrote in message news:drru87$eps$1@news.tamu.edu... > Can anyone send me a copy of Photofact TR31 which is for the Magnavox > 2TR107M tape recorder I want to restore. > TIA! > Article: 330018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <3rzCf.66398$eD5.1107903@twister2.libero.it> <8PQDf.154907$65.4344788@twister1.libero.it> <27idncotPYu7tH3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Power supply Message-ID: <4MvEf.75121$eD5.1264932@twister2.libero.it> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:32:32 GMT DaveM wrote: > Here's an updated schematic: > Please view in a fixed-width font such as Courier. Great and clear! Thanks for the help, very appreciated! -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 330019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <11u3c0e67j8ft28@corp.supernews.com> <1138911389.833901.294840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:40:50 GMT Hi! > You are assuming the battery powered device is floating and stays that > way. In the case of a all-plastic transistor radio that's an okay > assumption. An iPod has a metal case. Who knows what potentials it can > resist from where to where? Well, not all iPods do, though I will confess to using a metal-cased mini model. When I picked it up, I noticed a hum would come in the audio. (This doesn't sound that much different than contacting the inputs of any other audio amplifier.) William Article: 330020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: What's going on here??? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:55:51 -0500 Message-ID: <11u53g0gk7o8r1e@corp.supernews.com> References: All this seller's auctions are always like this. Could I request folks look at the ad and Bid History before replying, rather than giving generic answers? Thanks. This may be a nice example well marketed, but that's only half of it. John H. Article: 330021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philips BX435A Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:57:59 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: Follow the > schematic if you can find it, I looked for it just curious to see what was the set speaking of.. and did not find any BX435A corresponding to that tubeline and with FM band. OTOH there is a BA435A that seems to be the correct radio. I wonder if the X stays for export, since BA points to Philips Austria, BI to Philips Italy, BF to Philips France.... ok, always something to learn i didn't noticed it in the past.. and what about the 'B'? Oooh, Bhilips for sure! -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 330022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <11u3c0e67j8ft28@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:58:37 GMT Hi! > dont scare the original poster, if he is using battery powered devices, > there is absolutely no danger to those by using them here. Other AC home > audio have no chassis bond to ground usually unless you see a 3 pin plug. > Otherwise, they tend to have a polarized AC plug, but have a transformer > supply anyways, so I suppose the chassis might be capacitively coupled to > neutral. The CD player I've been using does in fact have a two-pin polarized plug. It is powered by a transformer. The outlets in my house are wired correctly with respect to hot and neutral. I don't see any obvious electrical connection to the player's case. > Also, Jeff mentions the possiblity of higher voltage DC on those jacks. > Jeff, no radio that had an AUX input ever had a situation where anything but > the smallest DC voltages might be present. So, they are all safe to use > with battery powered devices. I got to thinking about this. First, the radio with the warning about having a line connected chassis does *not* have a phono input. However, the chassis in use is very similar to the other radios with a phono plug onboard. Secondly, isn't it a stipulation of UL testing that the device not allow the user to come into contact with any side of the AC line in normal operations? (The radios with the phono plug do have a UL stamp on them.) Would having connected a matching turntable to these sets also caused safety concerns? What about putting a voltmeter on the phono plugs to see what is (or is not) there? My main concern is not that I'll touch the radio or CD player and get a surprise. I could accept the potential for a case to be electrically live or possibly even for a CD player to be damaged. (I have a *lot* of CD players. The unit I'm using has a remote control so I don't have to touch it other than to power up.) However, I do have little brothers around that might not understand the potential for danger. So far it looks like there is a lot of differing opinion on the level of danger. I suppose that for now I'll continue to listen to the CD player and iPod with the radio, while being sure that the sets are in the best possible electrical condition. In any event, I'm not particularly scared. If I get buzzed, it won't be the first time...or the worst. http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/zenithC845L.jpg (CD player, 383x373, 28KB) http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/zenith7C05.jpg (iPod, 520x443, 44KB) William Article: 330023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43e2915c$0$11071$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Philips BX435A References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> Date: 02 Feb 2006 23:10:20 GMT Daniele wrote: > I looked for it just curious to see what was the set speaking of.. > and did not find any BX435A corresponding to that tubeline and > with FM band. OTOH there is a BA435A that seems to be the correct radio. > I wonder if the X stays for export, since BA points to Philips Austria, > BI to Philips Italy, BF to Philips France.... ok, always something to learn > i didn't noticed it in the past.. and what about the 'B'? B means radio, T means television, K means colour television. The X means The Netherlands (W is for Austria, D for Germany, G for the UK, etc.). - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 330024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43e292e0$0$11071$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Philips BX435A References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> Date: 02 Feb 2006 23:16:48 GMT Daniele wrote: > I looked for it just curious to see what was the set speaking of.. > and did not find any BX435A corresponding to that tubeline and > with FM band. OTOH there is a BA435A that seems to be the correct radio. > I wonder if the X stays for export, since BA points to Philips Austria, > BI to Philips Italy, BF to Philips France.... ok, always something to learn > i didn't noticed it in the past.. and what about the 'B'? I overlooked something, you say A for Austria, but I have an early transistor tabletop set from about 1963, B5W32AT, clearly a European non-export set with a WT or WR production code (Wien factory). Maybe they changed letters some time, as I read on a Dutch website W was supposed to be US export. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 330025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Is it a a test instrument, a radio, a breath mint, or a floor wax . . . ? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 23:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <9P2dnZdLW6ve_X3eRVn-iw@giganews.com> In <9P2dnZdLW6ve_X3eRVn-iw@giganews.com> "Phil Nelson" writes: >Can't resist showing a pic of my new RCA Chanalyst (thanks, Brian!), which >can act as a radio as well as a supremely funky test instrument. Name any >other gadget that uses four magic eye tubes! >http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/RCAChanalyst01.jpg Now that is cool! What's the bazinga in the back on the left? Remote jukebox selector? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 330026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Radiola 33 Cover Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 00:37:47 GMT No, there was a metal speaker with matching trim. If your interested I can dig it out and see what shape its in but I think its all intact. Keith >I have a Radiola 100 speaker, is that a correct match? > > "Keith Park" wrote in message > news:nNcEf.1934$5Q3.720@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> I have a 33 that is probably in the "parts" category, Ill have to check > the >> top trim. >> Do you have the matching speaker for yours? >> >> Keith >> >> >> "Chris F." wrote in message >> news:vRbEf.8123$VV4.137637@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >> > I recently acquired a nice Radiola 33, but the top has some defects. >> > Mainly, the pot-metal trim is broken and some pieces are missing. Does >> > anyone have a Radiola top with the trim intact, some good pieces of > trim, >> > or >> > perhaps a source for a modern reproduction? >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> >> > > Article: 330027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Precision E-200C Signal Generator References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:09:29 -0500 Thanks. My email is wklw at cox dot net. Dave Burson wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message > news:DSvEf.12934$oG.12930@dukeread09... > >>Anyone have a schematic for this unit? Email or snail mail, I will pay >>hassel fees. Tried Bama, no luck. Ken >> > > > Ken, > > I've got a clean schematic AND the 20 page operating instructions, all of > which IIRC came off the internet. I'll email the schematic then see if I > can find where I downloaded the rest from. > > Dave Burson > > Article: 330028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Precision E-200C Signal Generator References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:36:00 -0500 The 200D is a transistor unit. Thanks for the try though. Ken DaveM wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message > news:DSvEf.12934$oG.12930@dukeread09... > >>Anyone have a schematic for this unit? Email or snail mail, I will pay >>hassel fees. Tried Bama, no luck. Ken >> > > > > You can download a copy of the B&K E-200D manual from BAMA > ftp://bama.edebris.com/bama/b&k/e200d/b&k%20e-200d%20manual_6.pdf > Granted, it's not the exact model, but only a suffix letter away. Possibly > it's close enough to be useful. > Article: 330029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Precision E-200C Signal Generator References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:00:21 GMT I have copies of the manual for the Precision E-200C signal generator. Jeff Ken wrote: > Anyone have a schematic for this unit? Email or snail mail, I will pay > hassel fees. Tried Bama, no luck. Ken > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: Atwater Kent Model 35 with Model H Speaker Date: 2 Feb 2006 17:57:12 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1138742323.955978.204330@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1138925762.248743.149780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1138925762.248743.149780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... > >Thanks very much to all who replied on these issues. For the pulleys, >I have decided to go the plastic route (although the wooden ones sure >do sound purty). The original pulley diameter is 1.6" and I am able to >purchase 1.5" diameter Delrin rod locally. I shall use beryllium >copper shim stock for the belts. That works. You need to be a bit careful about the design, don't just copy the brass ones, as the hub won't really give you enough meat to put the setscrew in, without having the setscrew threads in the delrin strip out. You should make the hub diameter somewhat larger than the originals. You also need to be able to press-fit some small pins into the OD of the pulley so the belt can be positively driven. You might not be able to see the original drive pins in the pot metal scrap left over, but they were there. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 330031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Photofact TR31? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:34:26 GMT I tried emailing you but it bounced. I have it but can't send it without a real address. If you post with a munged address it should be evident or include instructions. I don't want to guess and have it go to another party. It's big. Ray "jhill" wrote in message news:drtvc5$6cn$1@news.tamu.edu... > Make that a scan of, not a copy of! > > "jhill" wrote in message > news:drru87$eps$1@news.tamu.edu... >> Can anyone send me a copy of Photofact TR31 which is for the Magnavox >> 2TR107M tape recorder I want to restore. >> TIA! >> > > Article: 330032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: All tubes test leaky - indication of other problems? References: <7NzDf.5745$lb.500390@news1.epix.net> <1138721526.860603.170420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:56:39 -0500 DSL NAME wrote: > Yes I think this is nearest the mark. I have this odd habit of washing > tubes *before* testing them - especially the grungier ones, which these > were. I've never had this leakage problem show up until now, though. > Perhaps some of the grunge, along with the moisture, was causing the leakage > readings. I'll try re-washing and thoroughly drying the tubes, and see what > they read now. I did elliminate the meter as the source of error in that > when the tube was pulled and the same leakage test re-ran, no short of any > kind (>20 meg) was indicated. By the way - where would one obtain > 'de-ionized water' ? Is this like distilled water? The radio needs a > line cord and possibly some other stuff. So far, I just blew the major crud > and mouse droppings off the chassis with compressed air, and I haven't given > it a thorough inspection yet. > > > thanks all, > > Dave > > > > > > wrote in message > news:1138721526.860603.170420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>DSL NAME wrote: >> >>>What seemed odd is that all of the tubes showed at some significant > > amount > >>>of leakage. >> >>Probably on the outside of the tube plug (although in the case of >>octals and loctals it's also possible for dirt and crud to accumulate >>inside the plug shell on the bottom). Dirt and especially tobacco tar >>can leave a very thin but real film that exhibits this sort of leakage. >> >>Run the tubes through the dishwasher, rinse with deionized water, let >>em dry in the sun, and then see what the meter says. >> >>The top of the radio chassis and likely the bottom will also have the >>same film all over, so if the radio is working now then cleaning just >>the tubes won't make any difference. >> >>Tim. >> > > > Old glass octal tubes with baklite bases will develop gaps between the glass and the base as the glue dries out and cracks. Also sometimes a pin is missing leaving a hole. Result: when you washed the tube water got in the base and could be causing a high resistance short between pins giving you your leakage reading. If this is the case you need to dry out the tubes in an oven set to about 100-150 degrees (F) to bake out the moisture. The loktal tubes shouldn't have this problem, they are all glass except for the shield / centering metal bottom. Metal octal tubes could have the same problem if all 8 pins are not present or the bottom plug has a crack in it. Article: 330033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1138883916.488548.67880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Somewhat OT : NASA Suitsat, anyone going to tune in? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:43:34 GMT Pass predictions on this page. http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/articles/BauerSuitsat/index.php PP "Terry S" wrote in message news:1138883916.488548.67880@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > SUIT SATELLITE > Currently aboard the International Space Station is an extra Russian > Orlan space suit, which has reached the end of its lifespan and can no > longer be worn. To dispose of it, the crew of the space station will > send it on one final mission. During a spacewalk scheduled for > tomorrow, the extra suit will be pushed into space, where it will > become an independent satellite -- Suitsat-1. > > Suitsat-1 will carry a radio transmitter, sensors, and materials > created by students around the world, including voice recordings and > artwork. The suit will broadcast on amateur radio frequencies, which > are above the FM broadcast band. While Suitsat-1 remains in orbit, > students, scouts, teachers, ham radio operators, and the general public > are encouraged to tune into the signal, which will include the student > recordings, information about the condition of the suit, and a special > commemorative picture. > > For photos and to listen to Suitsat-1, visit: > http://link.abpi.net/l.php?20060202A2 > > For the full story, visit: > http://link.abpi.net/l.php?20060202A3 > Article: 330034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Precision E-200C Signal Generator Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 00:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <11u5o65fdcl3450@corp.supernews.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Obviously email isn't going to work. Take out the ns -Bill Article: 330035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: What's going on here??? References: <11u53g0gk7o8r1e@corp.supernews.com> <1138936231.891405.146530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:50:39 -0600 igolioto wrote: > Guys- > > I am Igor Golioto, the seller of this radio. I don't generally address > issues like this until there is some sort of implication made of wrong > doing, i.e. that my auctions are fixed or rigged in some fashion. I > want to first say, I don't say any of these things I am about to say > with arrogance or an attitude, etc...so don't misinterpret anything > here.. > > I have been selling honestly for 7 years now on ebay, and sell at least > two sets a week over that time. I am very thankful that there are > bidders who appreciate a quality set, which is generally a cut above. > > My sale prices are a reflection of the quality and care taken to > prepare each set, they are immaculately clean and yes, well presented. > I have never taken a good photo of a bad radio, only on occasion bad > photos of a good radio. Any radio short of excellent, gets tossed on > the side for parts. My prices are also a reflection of the regularity > of the offerings- people know I am around and will be around- my > warrantee actually means something. Bidders often tell me that they > have viewed my auctions for some time and decided to bid and buy when a > special occasion comes up. It is very rare that you can give an old > gift that looks very nice, plays well, and is absent of dirt- there are > very few offerings on ebay with any regularity of radios that meet > that. People are willing to pay a premium for that. My bidders are a > mix of collectors and general antique people who an old piece, though > increasingly, it is the latter. > > People who have money and want things are a regular part of ebay. If > you have failed to see it, you probably haven't looked very closely. > While many of my bidders aren't radio people, I don't insult them with > some oddly restored set that is nothing short of radio pornography- > sold to the unknowing, i.e.. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38035&item=6593076801 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38034&item=6596527171 > > Is this radio a fixed auction because of the price.... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38034&item=6599771772 > > no I don't think so, there are people with money. > > Interestingly, the radio I am selling, the GE wood set, common, > perhaps- but in uncommon condition, and there are still some people who > prefer to have one very nice set, instead of living with 6 garbage sets > like that sometime line the hallways of the radio junkies home. What > surprises me is that some people are irked when a very nice original > gets a good price, but don't seem at all moved by a restoration by > larry21751 getting, $500-1700. He does excellent work, and I have come > to know him over the last two years, an honest guy who can refinish to > any standard of gloss or texture and do it well- but still they are > redone. Interestingly, not many people seemed to get irked when an > average restoration, done in gloss with oddly toned edges covering up > band sanding, presenting dirty bakelite knobs or bezels, mismatched > knobs that "turn freely and smoothly", "chassis that are rust free" > (because they were painted silver after a wirebrush)- were through last > month, sold in the featured area for between $500-$950 with regularity > last year. > > If you are interested in getting a good price selling on ebay...it can > be done dedicate yourself to selling regularly and get the repeat bids > of very satisfied people. > > Igor > > Really superb work on the cabinets, Igor...and very nicely photographed as well. Could you detail the chassis restoration, beyond 'recapped, tubes replaced where needed' etc? Interestingly, despite the above that your "...warrantee actually means something'; all of the auctions--five or six--that I accessed expressly state that each piece is 'SOLD AS IS, furthermore all eBay sales are final (no returns, exchanges or refunds).' OTOH, your radios and your feedback speak for themselves. Your high-end customer base would quickly abandon you otherwise. Am I nitpicking? jak Article: 330036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Precision E-200C Signal Generator Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:39:17 -0500 Anyone have a schematic for this unit? Email or snail mail, I will pay hassel fees. Tried Bama, no luck. Ken Article: 330037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I remember.... Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 00:33:53 -0600 Message-ID: <4565-43E2F951-1331@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <975E76872Lagertptdnet@140.99.99.130> Rodney Dangerfield,,,, I just dont get no respect! www.rodney.com cuhulin Article: 330038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I remember.... Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 00:30:04 -0600 Message-ID: <4566-43E2F86C-355@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <11u345163jllq31@corp.supernews.com> I used to email chat with a woman who lives in a 14 storey apartment building in New York City.She always liked to pretend she had to use a rope to climb up and down from her apartment.There was a young lady from Hornel,New York and she and I used to work at a Krystal hamburger place here in Jackson,that was back in the 1970's.She always pronounced a box as bax. cuhulin Article: 330039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Renewing speaker surrounds? Slightly OT. Message-ID: <2e66u154jdligpci7bfvdp4tlqboma9cve@4ax.com> References: <1138941501.684074.139050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:52:46 GMT Thanks for the tip. We will check it out. Gordon Richmond Article: 330040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Looking for lid for Stew.W. 801-811B References: <43E26ED1.1090209@sympatico.ca> <0auEf.11707$Iw6.671886@news20.bellglobal.com> <4p55u1lcvnb0vd9atsjg80kakium54ck5g@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:02:27 -0500 Blacksmith wrote: > > I would just as soon sell this one rather than pay more for a lid and > speaker. I bought it because I felt the guy would throw it out in a > few months if it stayed in his basement any longer and I didn't want > that to happen. > > Are you interested in this for the chassis, etc.? It would cost you an > arm and a leg to have it shipped. It's heavy. Thank you, but I think I'll pass on it. The shipping would be extreme for that thing :~) Metal box sets aren't really my area of interest which is why I've never bothered to do anything in the way of finding a chassis. cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 330041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Renewing speaker surrounds? Slightly OT. Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:24:13 -0400 Message-ID: <11u6mbt4qa8ol2a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138941501.684074.139050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2e66u154jdligpci7bfvdp4tlqboma9cve@4ax.com> <1138967308.472474.82570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> electron@grapevine.net wrote: > Gordon Richmond wrote: > >>Thanks for the tip. We will check it out. >> >>Gordon Richmond > > > We have very good results using kits available from Parts Express. > http://www.PartsExpress.com If anybody has a single surround (8-9 incher) that they'd like to get rid of I'm in need of one. Thanks, Bill Article: 330042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: BAMA DJVU Print Problem Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 08:29:57 -0500 I cannot get my file to print properly. It's way too large, and no matter where I set the size, 50%, 100%, fit page, it prints the same. What am I doing wrong??? Ken Article: 330043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:31:50 -0400 Message-ID: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> References: Ken wrote: > I cannot get my file to print properly. It's way too large, and no > matter where I set the size, 50%, 100%, fit page, it prints the same. > What am I doing wrong??? Ken > Are you printing from your browser's print button or from inside the DejaVu program? If you're using the browser version you might consider instead using the actual program which can be found at ... http://www.tuberadio.it/utils.htm -Bill Article: 330044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: What's going on here??? Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 09:54:10 +0100 Message-ID: <770f65ee3b26b60779d2738a1e568112@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: This set seldome sells for more than $50, and here it is at $202, **I've watched Igor's sales for a long time (he's local but I don't know him). While most of us have been buying "collectors" radios, Igor has been buying more common radios in good shape and returning them to excellence+. He is a craftsman who has found an opening in the market and has seized it. He should be commended, not condemned. I would like to stand behind him and watch his procedures sometime- perhaps I will learn from him. -Pete O Article: 330045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Philips BX435A Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:59:14 GMT Message-ID: <43e36da2.14968243@news.demon.co.uk> References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> <1138940332.351352.145530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 2 Feb 2006 20:18:52 -0800, gabe2004@gmail.com wrote: >Thanks for the advice. I took a look at all the caps. Most are marked >with the capacitance and voltage. Some however dont't have any >markings at all, just entirely black. One had this number on it: >B1687-95. Is there anyway for me to figure out these unkown values >without the schematic? Thanks. > Apart from the tone control and tone correction caps, the values aren't very critical, Most are going to be decouplers and 0.047-0.1uF should be fine in all cases. The cap feeding the output tube grid should be 0.01-0.047uF. Although it's a good idea to change these big paper caps, it's unlikely that they're causing the symptoms you describe. A tube fault is also unlikely to cause this. A problem with the band switching is almost certainly the explanation. A good shot of contact cleaner will help but you may need to dismantle the switchgear and clean the contacts by hand. I think it's a bit later than 1953. Only Germany had FM then IIRC, and the ECC85 points to around 1955. The tube lineup is completely standard for a European AM/FM set of that period (you forgot the ECH81 AM frequency changer BTW :-) ) Good luck, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 330046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: What's going on here??? Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: <11u6s2cmvjsrpd3@corp.supernews.com> References: <11u53g0gk7o8r1e@corp.supernews.com> ---- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Oppat" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: Re: What's going on here??? > What's the other half, John? I don't know. However many of the replies here didn't appear to have any specific reference to this auction. It was simply "people are crazy and too rich" which isn't really an answer. Article: 330047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Philips BX435A Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:07:42 GMT Message-ID: <43e370d2.15783946@news.demon.co.uk> References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 1 Feb 2006 16:49:14 -0800, gabe2004@gmail.com wrote: >Hi. I posted to this group a while ago. Here's the problem. Short >wave doesn't work at all. AM works a little, I get a few stations. FM >is even worse, I get only 2 stations. Also, the tuning eye is >illuminated but doesnt do anything. Another thing i noticed is that it >sometimes suddenly gets drastically louder or softer. I think it must >be some tube issue. It has the following tubes: > >EZ80 >EL84 >EABC80 >EF85 >ECC85 >EBF80 >EM80 Just had a thought. What's that EBF80 doing there? That is a diode-pentode usually found in the IF stage of AM radios. It should almost certainly be an ECH81 frequency changer. If somebody has replaced the ECH81 with an EBF80 it would certainly explain why the AM doesn't work too well. I'm suprised it works at all! http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/082/e/EBF80.pdf http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/082/e/ECH81.pdf Best regards, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 330048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: Subject: Re: Radiola 33 Cover Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:28:51 GMT Yes, I would definately be interested in that. So what does the 100-A speaker go to, and would it still work with this radio? "Keith Park" wrote in message news:vBxEf.6208$bU6.2775@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > No, there was a metal speaker with matching trim. If your interested I can > dig it out and see what shape its in but I think its all intact. > > Keith > > >I have a Radiola 100 speaker, is that a correct match? > > > > "Keith Park" wrote in message > > news:nNcEf.1934$5Q3.720@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > >> I have a 33 that is probably in the "parts" category, Ill have to check > > the > >> top trim. > >> Do you have the matching speaker for yours? > >> > >> Keith > >> > >> > >> "Chris F." wrote in message > >> news:vRbEf.8123$VV4.137637@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > >> > I recently acquired a nice Radiola 33, but the top has some defects. > >> > Mainly, the pot-metal trim is broken and some pieces are missing. Does > >> > anyone have a Radiola top with the trim intact, some good pieces of > > trim, > >> > or > >> > perhaps a source for a modern reproduction? > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Article: 330049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ianto Subject: Re: Philips BX435A Message-ID: References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> <1138940332.351352.145530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 10:16:48 -0600 On 2 Feb 2006 20:18:52 -0800, gabe2004@gmail.com wrote: >Thanks for the advice. I took a look at all the caps. Most are marked >with the capacitance and voltage. Some however dont't have any >markings at all, just entirely black. One had this number on it: >B1687-95. Is there anyway for me to figure out these unkown values >without the schematic? Thanks. A service manual for the Philips BX435A in PDF format is available for download at this site: http://radiotechniek.cjb.net/ Mike Capel capel AT mts DOT net Article: 330050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: What's going on here??? References: <11u53g0gk7o8r1e@corp.supernews.com> <11u6s2cmvjsrpd3@corp.supernews.com> <1138980991.718468.211460@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:17:53 GMT Has anyone thought that the winner chipped at the other bid until they exceeded it? Jeff igolioto wrote: > Eddie- > > I don't prohibit anyone from bidding on any of my sets. Zero feedback > or not. The lead bidder, I know him because he bought a Crosley from > me a week ago. > > Igor > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8CLEf.1408$_c.467@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:34:12 GMT In article <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, pfjw@aol.com says... > > >Sounds like the selenium diode has crapped out. If you can solder, you >can do this... it is the LEAST TECHNICAL T/O repair. > >Let me know directly if you want hand-holding-type directions to do >this. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA > if he doesnt want to do it... pretty close to Gary Tayman Sarasota area.... John k9uwa Article: 330052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:47:13 -0500 From insite Djvu, using the printer icon. Ken - exray - wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> I cannot get my file to print properly. It's way too large, and no >> matter where I set the size, 50%, 100%, fit page, it prints the same. >> What am I doing wrong??? Ken >> > > Are you printing from your browser's print button or from inside the > DejaVu program? > > If you're using the browser version you might consider instead using the > actual program which can be found at ... > > http://www.tuberadio.it/utils.htm > > -Bill Article: 330053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: What's going on here??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <11u53g0gk7o8r1e@corp.supernews.com> <11u6s2cmvjsrpd3@corp.supernews.com> <1138980991.718468.211460@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9fMEf.1444$_c.1134@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:17:57 GMT In article , jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > >Has anyone thought that the winner chipped at the other bid until >they exceeded it? > >Jeff no this one was the other way around... top bidder had bid in early and then this newbie mary whatever started pinching it up ... you see this with a lot of newbie bidders... they don't really totally understand the bidding on fleabay ... she like all the rest will learn .... Nice Radio Igor ... John k9uwa /w4 snowbird Article: 330054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 13:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: <11u759jkh20q158@corp.supernews.com> References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> Ken wrote: > From insite Djvu, using the printer icon. Ken But from the browser plug-in version of DejaVu or the actual DejaVu program? The browser plug-in has been known to have some weirdness and so can some indivdual files. -Bill Article: 330055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: What's going on here??? References: <11u53g0gk7o8r1e@corp.supernews.com> <11u6s2cmvjsrpd3@corp.supernews.com> <1138980991.718468.211460@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9fMEf.1444$_c.1134@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:47:33 GMT John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird wrote: > no this one was the other way around... top bidder had bid in early > and then this newbie mary whatever started pinching it up ... > you see this with a lot of newbie bidders... they don't really > totally understand the bidding on fleabay ... she like all the > rest will learn .... Well, ok, that's what I had in mind. The bid-picking routine. I got it backwards, but yeah, I see this a lot with people new to eBay as they try to figure out how much to bid, not wanting to bid TOO much. Apparently the new person had heard about Igor's radios and wanted one for themselves. By the way Igor, nice radio and a clean sharp eBay presentation. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: What's going on here??? References: <11u53g0gk7o8r1e@corp.supernews.com> <1138936231.891405.146530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138950142.466870.64060@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <35NEf.15818$s9.8394@bignews8.bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:17:33 -0600 igolioto wrote: > Jak- > > Nitpicking, I am not sure....those auctions that read "as is, no > returns" aren't mine, they are ac_sys....and maybe squeekylu > > Chassis work, clean it removing all dust, dirt, using q-tips, replace > all capacitors, no hook joints, check critical resistors, tubes, dial > light, do an instrumented alignment, lubricate tuner and shafts..the > usual. > > Regards, > > Igor > Thanks...it must have been too late at night for comprehension. I understood the auctions you referenced to be your own. After accessing the OP and looking at your radios, I'm much more impressed. Those others exhibit superb *paint jobs* as opposed to yours, which are natural bakelite. I shoulda' looked at the username...duh. jak Article: 330057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Andy Cuffe Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: <40b7u1d3hath148om52l4nocgj539o875d@4ax.com> References: On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 07:07:24 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > >One thing to bear in mind with AC powered audio with capacitor >coupling. Some of the designs have a fairly large DC voltage on >the other side of the capacitor. This can prove fatal to some >solid state equipment that is connected AFTER the AC equipment >is turned on. Due to the low impedance output being suddenly >attached to the capacitor. I would add a resistor on the jack side of the coupling cap to ground. A large enough resistor (around 47k) won't load down the input, but it will bleed off any charge on the coupling cap. Andy Cuffe acuffe@gmail.com Article: 330058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I remember.... Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11u345163jllq31@corp.supernews.com> <4566-43E2F86C-355@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> In <4566-43E2F86C-355@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net writes: >I used to email chat with a woman who lives in a 14 storey apartment >building in New York City.She always liked to pretend she had to use a >rope to climb up and down from her apartment. Heh. Haven't seen that, but one urban story I've always been fond of is doorbell clusters. Lofts came about by folks making their homes in large industrial spaces, often illegally according to the zoning for the area, but the landlord would turn a blind eye. The residents would attach a pair of wires to a doorbell, along with a tag identifying the apartment number, and throw it out a window overlooking the street entrance. Visitors would paw thru this "doorbell cluster" until they found the correct one, then press that buzzer. I've never seen one, and for all I know it's a peculiar New York City legend, but it's one I've always loved. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 330059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> <11u759jkh20q158@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:25:41 -0500 What I'm trying to use is Lizard Tech Djuv 3.1, that's the prog I downloaded. What other way is there? Ken - exray - wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> From insite Djvu, using the printer icon. Ken > > > But from the browser plug-in version of DejaVu or the actual DejaVu > program? The browser plug-in has been known to have some weirdness and > so can some indivdual files. > > -Bill Article: 330060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephen Wild" References: Subject: Re: Use of PHONO plug on some old radios... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:06:25 -0500 I have had this question addressed to me several times and my considered opinion is that I would never use a phono jack on an AC - DC set at all unless the set was plugged into an isolation transformer. These radios were designed so that you could not touch any exposed chassis parts for a good reason - there is always the possibility the B- side could be live. The last AC DC set I repaired had the outside of the RCA plug DIRECTLY connected to B-. Even if there is a low value capacitor, enough AC could leak into another device to cause a shock or else damage a solid state circuit. Conversely, I would have no problem with using the input on any transformer operated set that I know to be in good condtion. The input of a tube circuit is of high enough impedance to prevent damage to practically any solid state device, and I actually have a Cambridge Audio tuner and CD player connected to my Dynaco PAS3 preamplifier. In any case, however, I would be reluctant to plug any solid state device into a tube circuit if I was not sure of the tubed circuit's condtion. The voltages present in a tube circuit are of an order of magnitude higher than those in a solid state circuit, and it is not impossible (though unlikely) that a defective coupling capacitor could allow high voltage to be present. As always, common sense is the best approach: make sure that a tube circuit is working properly before using it. "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:XChEf.741123$x96.716472@attbi_s72... > Hello all...me again, with another potentially silly question. > > I have some radios (all Zenith units) that feature an RCA plug that can be > used to play a turntable into the radio. These radios appear to be designed > for a turntable with a ceramic cartridge as opposed to a magnetic one. As > such, the phono plug seems to make a fine line-input for iPods, CD players > and other items. > > So far I've used a tape deck, iPod mini and a Technics component type CD > player with no issues. However, I do have a concern about the safety of > doing this, especially since a Zenith radio similar to one of the units with > an input carries a warning on the back stating that the chassis is connected > to one side of the AC line. > > Is there any reason to be worried about electrical shock when connecting > equipment to play through these radios and their phono plugs? I'd rather not > get an unpleasant or painful surprise. > > William > > Article: 330061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138996626.991293.281220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 21:09:41 GMT In article <1138996626.991293.281220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, docgorpon@aol.com says... > > >PS, please give me Gary's contact info, as I'd love to have the >capacitors replaced at some point as well. > Gary is a regular poster here on the newsgroup ... I have munged up his email addy a little so the robots don't find him ... "Gary E. Tayman" gtayman ate gate daottt net Phone: 941 371-8924 http://www.taymanelectrical.com/ John Article: 330062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 17:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <11u7joaisthvh9c@corp.supernews.com> References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> <11u759jkh20q158@corp.supernews.com> Ken wrote: > What I'm trying to use is Lizard Tech Djuv 3.1, that's the prog I > downloaded. What other way is there? Ken There's a plug-in just for viewing and printing using your normal web browser versus the actual program which allows you to compile files, etc. What is the diagram you are looking at? I'll give it a try and see if I can come up with any ideas. -Bill Article: 330063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson amp sings its first song... References: <1139005541.882273.254860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8WQEf.5227$Z3.3665@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:36:52 GMT Mick wrote: > Dickerson Amp page and scroll to the bottom. There is the link for the > cut. > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson > > Name: "Brenda's Song" Way cool Mick. A job well done. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson amp sings its first song... References: <1139005541.882273.254860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:31:38 GMT Quicktime does not work on my computer, what do I need to make it work. Mick wrote: > Folks, > > Instructor cancelled our recording session, so had to just cut a > rough recording direct to the PC through my headset mike. This is a > completely untreated recording from Thinline Telecaster to Dickerson > Amp to headset mike to HP PC. > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson/Brenda's%20Song-Raw%20Cut.wav > > I had to let the wave file download completely then play it again to > get it without a stutter. If you have problems with the link, go to the > > Dickerson Amp page and scroll to the bottom. There is the link for the > cut. > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson > > Name: "Brenda's Song" > Author: Mick > Format: Wave (about 3 megs) > > Best to all, > Mick > Article: 330065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson amp sings its first song... References: <1139005541.882273.254860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:43:17 GMT Lou deGonzague wrote: > Quicktime does not work on my computer, what do I need to make it work. Quicktime is a pox on humanity. Use Windows Media Viewer. Or... And alternative to quicktime is: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm And for people that hate Real Media as I do: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1138929956.532882.131510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139005610.849045.189380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Power transformer needed Message-ID: <%RSEf.10060$1n4.7427@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:48:59 GMT Actually I may have found a transformer. Still, this brings up an interesting subject. Just how far does one go to restore a radio -- rather, keep it working? This, from a business whose main thrust is gutting the entire contents of the original radio and subbing a PCB containing an AM/FM stereo. Then again, we're talking about car radios, where the car itself means a lot more than the radio in it. Today I helped out at an auction, getting odometer readings and serial numbers as the cars were being registered. There were some gorgeous cars -- except that the dashes were cut up and a modern stereo was stuck where the original was. The conversion is a major improvement. But we're talking about people who want the original radio restored. The car may be 6 volts, and a show car, and they want to keep the AM radio as it is. Naturally we want to keep ti as original as possible, but the first thing that goes is the vibrator -- in goes a solid state type. Then, all the paper caps. If the speaker is bad, in goes another -- and it won't look like the original. One thing that AAR used to make is a mono-7 amp. This was simply an IC mounted on a very small PCB. It was a 7 watt amp. On certain car radios, such as those Thunderbird AM/FM's with horrible components, this replaces the entire audio amp. It sounds the same, or in some cases better. Is it original? Well, put it this way: I used two of these in 59 Edsels, both owned by Currie Weed, who was one of the original Edsel executives. These replaced the external heat sinks, which were terrible on these cars. So if the Edsel brass condones it, it must be concours-correct, right? Parts such as this can come in handy, particularly when an original replacement is not feasible. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "RapidRonnie" wrote in message news:1139005610.849045.189380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Bret Ludwig wrote: >> Ya'll need B+, have you considered a 5V switchmode brick from any of >> the SMPS commodity power supply vendors? 6.5 volts should be well >> within the tolerance of input voltage which is about as high as it will >> see. 300V is a standard output voltage. How many mA you need? > > You'd better put the brick in a shielded can with LC filters in and > out and feed out through feedthrough caps. It's going to blow shit out > all over the broadcast band otherwise. And also you need to delay B+ > application until after the heaters have been on for awhile or the > tubes will die young. > > If you are willing to do that, it's actually a good idea though. 300 > volt 50 mA supplies show up for $10 all the time. > Article: 330067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1139005541.882273.254860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson amp sings its first song... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 01:03:51 GMT These are great programs and will play stuff that usually take a half dozen other programs. I use QT Alternative for OGM, MKV, and other hard-to-play formats too. Quicktime is really bad. I swear they deliberately program it to be rotten so as to make PCs look bad next to their own platform. It also tries to take over every file linkage on your system. Avoid at all costs! Ray "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:pUREf.5010$Jg.608@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Lou deGonzague wrote: >> Quicktime does not work on my computer, what do I need to make it work. > > Quicktime is a pox on humanity. Use Windows Media Viewer. > Or... > And alternative to quicktime is: > http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm > And for people that hate Real Media as I do: > http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Radiola 33 Cover Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 02:35:11 GMT The 100 is a speaker for a Generic RCA, and should work just fine. Email me at topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com after removing the spam part and that will remind me to check it out tommoro night, I dont always get to the newsgroup. Keith "Chris F." wrote in message news:TEKEf.9604$VV4.158215@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > Yes, I would definately be interested in that. So what does the 100-A > speaker go to, and would it still work with this radio? > "Keith Park" wrote in message > news:vBxEf.6208$bU6.2775@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> >> No, there was a metal speaker with matching trim. If your interested I > can >> dig it out and see what shape its in but I think its all intact. >> >> Keith >> >> >I have a Radiola 100 speaker, is that a correct match? >> > >> > "Keith Park" wrote in message >> > news:nNcEf.1934$5Q3.720@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> >> I have a 33 that is probably in the "parts" category, Ill have to >> >> check >> > the >> >> top trim. >> >> Do you have the matching speaker for yours? >> >> >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> >> "Chris F." wrote in message >> >> news:vRbEf.8123$VV4.137637@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >> >> > I recently acquired a nice Radiola 33, but the top has some >> >> > defects. >> >> > Mainly, the pot-metal trim is broken and some pieces are missing. > Does >> >> > anyone have a Radiola top with the trim intact, some good pieces of >> > trim, >> >> > or >> >> > perhaps a source for a modern reproduction? >> >> > Thanks. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Article: 330069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Every FM & AM Raio in the House Plays XM Now Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 21:12:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3228-43E41B83-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1139020344.436742.229730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Heck,I subscribe to DirecTV.About 160 + (however many channels,honestly,I never counted noses before) channels I get and I only watch a hand full of them for the old,old movies I like to watch on tv.(The Bridge on the River Kwai movie is on tv right now) There are about sixty something XM (or is it Sirius) music channels on DirecTV. cuhulin Article: 330070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Every FM & AM Raio in the House Plays XM Now Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:36:23 -0700 Message-ID: <12412-43E42137-145@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: Every FM & AM Raio in the House Plays XM Now Very good welcome to the club . I can do the same thing but only AM at this time . They have ruined all of our local radio around here unless you want modern country music or 80`s hard rock only . I like the music choices you mentioned too . Article: 330071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:27:38 -0800 Message-ID: References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> <11u759jkh20q158@corp.supernews.com> <11u7joaisthvh9c@corp.supernews.com> - exray - wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> What I'm trying to use is Lizard Tech Djuv 3.1, that's the prog I >> downloaded. What other way is there? Ken > > > There's a plug-in just for viewing and printing using your normal web > browser versus the actual program which allows you to compile files, etc. > I HIGHLY recommend using the browser plugin to view/print the djvu files. There are some djvu files that have their shape libraries in a seperate file which ends with a .djbz extension. The browser plugin automatically knows when it needs to download this seperate file in order to render the image; a person who merely downloads a djvu file >from a website may not. Also, keep in mind that the djvu solo application is about 4 (!) years old and is no longer being supported or updated, while the Browser plugin is still actively supported with bugfixes and whatnot. There are also some alternative viewers to the Lizardtech windows viewers out there....I have not tried any of them but they might work in situations where the Lizardtech one does not. -Scott Article: 330072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E42BAF.EBA8348C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:21:51 GMT docgorpon@aol.com wrote: > > A soldering iron is the one tool I do have. Hand holding directions > would be appreciated. Too bad you're not closer to Ocala. You could come over and use my bench while I showed you what to do. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 330073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8CLEf.1408$_c.467@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <43E42B76.B58CA019@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <66WEf.5265$Z3.1712@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:30:58 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > There were a number of buildings damaged in St. Petersburg tonight. > Several large buildings had their roofs collapse. This isn't too far > from the O.P., and Gary Tayman. Is this one of them? http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/13784872.htm Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:57:34 -0400 Message-ID: <11u8d1st3lc0t71@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8CLEf.1408$_c.467@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <43E42B76.B58CA019@earthlink.net> <66WEf.5265$Z3.1712@tornado.socal.rr.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> There were a number of buildings damaged in St. Petersburg tonight. >> Several large buildings had their roofs collapse. This isn't too far >> from the O.P., and Gary Tayman. > > > Is this one of them? > http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/13784872.htm > > Jeff > > I'm afraid Pat Robertson may have an explanation for this occurence. :( -Bill Article: 330075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: don ward Subject: Re: Shipping 78's References: <1138834176.327337.119680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <3tmdnf7z69fwyHzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@athenet.net> <1138841810.877207.69980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1138893965.958324.66900@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:35:30 GMT Ive shipped loads of 78s and i have never had any break using this method of shipping; cut some pieces of corragated cardboard about 1/4" bigger than records use 2 pieces top and bottom of the stack of records with the corragation at right angles to piece next to it. Next you want to make as solid brick as possable out of them, i use duct tape so i can pull it really tight with out the tape breaking... if you get really tight they wont budge. Now pack the brick in a box at least couple inches bigger all way around and pack the brick in a sea of peanuts... Hope this helps dnw Article: 330076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Smith Subject: Binaries Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 09:32:55 +0000 Message-ID: Hi Folks, Could someone remind me of the name of the pictures newsgroup which is associated with this one. Thanks Roger Article: 330077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Binaries Message-ID: <6y_Ef.1185$lG2.847@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 09:33:54 GMT alt.binaries.pictures.radio? "Roger Smith" wrote in message news:g2t8u1tgoiuiagidkpie40a96kqsvqgavo@4ax.com... > Hi Folks, > Could someone remind me of the name of the pictures newsgroup which is > associated with this one. Thanks > Roger Article: 330078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: Binaries Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:01:39 +0000 Message-ID: <3a29u1hdkch3qiooeujlcacoj25r6lnfkc@4ax.com> References: <6y_Ef.1185$lG2.847@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Thanks Rune, Am having trouble with my new ISP news server. Roger On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 09:33:54 GMT, "Rune" wrote: >alt.binaries.pictures.radio? > > > >"Roger Smith" wrote in message >news:g2t8u1tgoiuiagidkpie40a96kqsvqgavo@4ax.com... >> Hi Folks, >> Could someone remind me of the name of the pictures newsgroup which is >> associated with this one. Thanks >> Roger > Article: 330079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> <11u759jkh20q158@corp.supernews.com> <11u7joaisthvh9c@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:54:36 -0500 Exray, I have dnloaded the file for an Eico 315 sig gen and am trying to print it. It comes out too large for my 8.5 X 11 printer paper, and I cannot change it with the djvu screen. - exray - wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> What I'm trying to use is Lizard Tech Djuv 3.1, that's the prog I >> downloaded. What other way is there? Ken > > > There's a plug-in just for viewing and printing using your normal web > browser versus the actual program which allows you to compile files, etc. > > What is the diagram you are looking at? I'll give it a try and see if I > can come up with any ideas. > > -Bill Article: 330080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8CLEf.1408$_c.467@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <43E42B76.B58CA019@earthlink.net> <66WEf.5265$Z3.1712@tornado.socal.rr.com> <11u8d1st3lc0t71@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 12:01:39 GMT - exray - wrote: >>> There were a number of buildings damaged in St. Petersburg tonight. > I'm afraid Pat Robertson may have an explanation for this occurence. I've noticed that over the past year or two the "God hates Fags" crowd seems to be getting more and more rabid about claiming that everything that "goes wrong" is God's way of punishing the US for allowing equal rights to apply equally. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Speaker Wiring for Philco 37 610 References: <1139055923.993830.94530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 12:36:26 GMT RadioGary wrote: > The question is what type of wiring is suitable for this? Will > insulated colored speaker wire do, like 16 ga or close to that or will > the type of wire be particular for impedence matching or performance? I'd make some comment about cyrogenically treated oxygen free litz wire, but no... What ever you feel comfortable with. Plain old 16 gauge plastic insulated will work fine. If it's appearance, then go ahead and find some of the repro type cloth covered stuff. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "denis udall" Subject: Pioneer TA-110L Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 14:11:46 -0000 Message-ID: This is a 25 year old(?) set up, with an tuner/amp, turntable and cassette deck - the last 2 being powered by 20 volts out of the amp. The tuner/amp is blown, but I want to reuse the cassette and turntable. Any EASY ideas for getting them powered up. I am not clever enough to do any building from scratch. Thanks in advance Denis Article: 330083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Every FM & AM Raio in the House Plays XM Now Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 07:44:48 -0700 Message-ID: <10955-43E4BDE0-267@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <3228-43E41B83-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Sirius is on direct . XM is better . Article: 330084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Metal octal tubes, pin 1 grounded! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:15:16 -0330 From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Metal (octal) tube socket, Pin 1!!!!! Date: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:01 AM Wrote ..........Was that in a 1936/37 Zenith? Answer: No, it was/is a power transformer equipped 1950s, S-53 Hallicrafter. Just had another (rather obvious!) thought! In an AC/DC set the metal tube outer shield of an M tube could be 'grounded' to the chassis; but that chassis, depending which way round the two pin plug is placed into the wall socket could be AC supply live. So, usual precautions when doing anything on an AC/DC especially when not using an isolation transformer eh? Cheers Article: 330085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: Subject: Re: Trying to explain transformer ratio and impedance matching! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:36:26 -0330 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:YKudnYITGIP8qH_enZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > well, sorta. > > you have DC resistance in the windings, and AC IMPEDANCE in the windings, > and thru the transformer. The transformer will "reflect" a different > impedance to the input depending on the load applied to the secondary. > > so , avoid the term "resistance" when talking AC signals. > > Mark Oppat > Thanks Mark: You are correct. But the young party in question had not quite reached the point of understanding AC, yet. So I based the discussion on typical RMS AC voltages. I tried to stay away from RMS vs Peak voltage/complex reactance etc. but you may notice I started to introduce the word 'impedance' part the way through? The idea being to associate it with AC situations without destroying basic ohms law understanding. Maybe ten years from now that person will be designing/fixing circuits I don't even understand? By the same token I have another neighbour, who tells me he once aspired to be an electrician! Today in his 60s he doesn't understand even DC. No matter how many times I tell him or help him fix 12 volt items on his highway rig! But he's a nice chap; the best kind of neighbour one could ever have. I'm lucky to live near him and our skills complement each other. Cheers and thanks for the comment. Article: 330086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Metal octal tubes, pin 1 grounded! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 10:25:09 -0500 "Terry" wrote in message news:B53Ff.19207$Sk1.379822@news20.bellglobal.com... > > From: "AuroraOldRadios" > Subject: Re: Metal (octal) tube socket, Pin 1!!!!! > Date: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:01 AM > Wrote ..........Was that in a 1936/37 Zenith? > > Answer: > > No, it was/is a power transformer equipped 1950s, S-53 Hallicrafter. > > Just had another (rather obvious!) thought! > In an AC/DC set the metal tube outer shield of an M tube could be 'grounded' > to the chassis; but that chassis, depending which way round the two pin plug > is placed into the wall socket could be AC supply live. > So, usual precautions when doing anything on an AC/DC especially when not > using an isolation transformer eh? > > Cheers It would be a moot point if the tube shell were hot with AC, since the entire chassis would also be "live" to ground with AC voltages In the case of a floating ground bus, which some AC sets did use, the shell would be at chassis potential, which would be coupled to AC neutral via a safety bypass capacitor. AC/DC sets (transformerless) should always be serviced using an isolation transformer; and when in use, the manufacturer's provided protection: chassis isolation/insulator mounts, insulated back covers, insulated knobs, should always be present. If used, AC bypass caps to the chassis be replaced with UL recognized parts. I prefer to modify these sets for polarized plug, with the neutral side going towards the chassis/ground bus, and the switch rewired so it switches the AC hot side of the line to the set. Two caveats: this doesn't preclude the AC isolation protection afforded by the manufacture--you will always run the risk of plugging into a miswired AC receptacle and don't need a false sense of security! Also, the internal AC lead routing routing is more critical when the switch on the hot side of the AC line; care is needed to avoid coupling AC hum into the high impedance audio paths on the volume control. Pete Pete Article: 330087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I remember.... Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 10:48:52 -0600 Message-ID: <27140-43E4DAF4-275@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1139059947.469081.23660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Them tv test patterns that always showed up an hour or so before the tv stations actually started broadcasting their stuff every day/morning and then around late evenings,,, That's all she wrote folks,nite nite. cuhulin Article: 330088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:02:57 -0400 Message-ID: <11u9ni356k8ht7d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8CLEf.1408$_c.467@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <43E42B76.B58CA019@earthlink.net> <66WEf.5265$Z3.1712@tornado.socal.rr.com> <11u8d1st3lc0t71@corp.supernews.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > - exray - wrote: > >>>> There were a number of buildings damaged in St. Petersburg tonight. > > >> I'm afraid Pat Robertson may have an explanation for this occurence. > > > I've noticed that over the past year or two the "God hates Fags" > crowd seems to be getting more and more rabid about claiming that > everything that "goes wrong" is God's way of punishing the US for > allowing equal rights to apply equally. > > Jeff You can thank the media for that. They love making news out of such nonsense. Thank God Jessie Jackson doesn't have his own TV network like Rbtsn does. -Bill Article: 330089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:27:05 -0400 Message-ID: <11u9ova11dqq0fa@corp.supernews.com> References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> <11u759jkh20q158@corp.supernews.com> <11u7joaisthvh9c@corp.supernews.com> Ken wrote: > Exray, I have dnloaded the file for an Eico 315 sig gen and am trying to > print it. It comes out too large for my 8.5 X 11 printer paper, and I > cannot change it with the djvu screen. FWIW, I tried both the 315-const.djvu file and the 315.djvu file. On the 315-const file I have to use reduce to fit, it doesn't print properly with default. On the 315.djvu file these are very small images. The original poster made them too small. That are not readable at 100% for me. What works for those double pages for me...In the sizing window select Fit Width and print with Current Zoom. The BAMA inserted pages print normally. Because of this you have to do them one at a time. If you can't get them to print because they are sized goofy, use the Export Page thing and export them into PaintShop or whatever graphics program you use. You can then resize and print them any way you choose. -Bill Article: 330090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "olyvee" Subject: FS: Electrohome radio phonograph - Madeira Dual 1210 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:11:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4b275$43e4eadf$cf70511e$28725@PRIMUS.CA> Hi, I have an Electrohome Radio-Phonograph for sale. The cabinet is Madeira and it is made of wood (oak finish). It looks beautiful (it's made by Deilcraft). The model is Dual 1210 and it's in good condition. The phonograph is from the 1960s. I also have some detailed info (text from stickers on the cabinet) as well as pictures of it and can provide that on request. Located in Toronto. It is pretty big, so if you are interested, you'll have to arrange transportation. Thanks for interest. Article: 330091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E4F627.438AE7A8@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8CLEf.1408$_c.467@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <43E42B76.B58CA019@earthlink.net> <66WEf.5265$Z3.1712@tornado.socal.rr.com> <11u8d1st3lc0t71@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:45:43 GMT Bruce Mercer wrote: > > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message > news:DI0Ff.5053$Jg.1741@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > > > > - exray - wrote: > > > >>>> There were a number of buildings damaged in St. Petersburg tonight. > > > >> I'm afraid Pat Robertson may have an explanation for this occurence. > > > > I've noticed that over the past year or two the "God hates Fags" > > crowd seems to be getting more and more rabid about claiming that > > everything that "goes wrong" is God's way of punishing the US for > > allowing equal rights to apply equally. > > > > Jeff > > Yes, those scumbags just paid a visit to our fair city to protest a local > soldier's funeral and praise god for IEDs, the tornado that came through > here and killed 23 people recently, not to mention the miners that died and > the victims of Katrina. Is it possible that there is THAT much inbreeding > going on in Kansas? > > Bruce You're talking about the so called "westboro baptist church". The last that I heard, 16 states are already working on laws to make it illegal to protest within 1000 feet of a funeral, rather than just charging them with hate crimes and throwing them into jail for a year or two. I wonder how long this will go on before someone kicks the crap out of one, or more of these morons when they show up at a soldier's funeral? They want TV coverage and to get their message on the news. Well, putting some of them in the hospital would give them all the coverage they are looking for. I just hope it doesn't turn out like the college riots, and Kent State. You can only push people so far before something has to give, and grieving families can already be close to the edge. State Rep. Dennis K. Baxley, who is the Representative for part of Marion County at the Florida House of Representatives said that Florida is drafting a law right now. He is the director of a funeral home that helps most of the Veteran's groups to bury the local veterans in a cemetery reserved for Veterans. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 330092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E4F84A.953C67A4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? References: <1138957800.893603.179770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138970964.111164.74420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8CLEf.1408$_c.467@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <43E42B76.B58CA019@earthlink.net> <66WEf.5265$Z3.1712@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:54:51 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > There were a number of buildings damaged in St. Petersburg tonight. > > Several large buildings had their roofs collapse. This isn't too far > > from the O.P., and Gary Tayman. > > Is this one of them? > http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/13784872.htm > > Jeff Yes, that was one. The other was the roof on a large community center. My area was under severe storm warnings, a flood watch, and a tornado watch all night. I was listening to the local NOAA weather broadcasts for a while, but their broadcasts use a crappy digital recorder and the signal has a whistle and severe phase shifts which quickly gives me a headache. I can't tell if the phase shifts are in the digital recorder, or the transmitter has a PLL that is trying to unlock. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 330093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E4F975.9679D71D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Every FM & AM Raio in the House Plays XM Now References: <3228-43E41B83-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <10955-43E4BDE0-267@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:59:50 GMT "Ken G." wrote: > > Sirius is on direct . XM is better . Not if the programming you want isn't on XM. Tell us how good WSM sounds on XM. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 330094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <770f65ee3b26b60779d2738a1e568112@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Subject: Re: What's going on here??? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:37:42 GMT It's guys like Igor that are putting this hobby back on the collecting map! Meanwhile we are all thriving off of the junkers and hopeless case radios that we seem to resuscitate to life(and occasionally throwing darts at each other with flames on the newsgroup about it)! It would be good if Igor comes out and tells us what exactly he does to the cabinets and bakelite, as well as a picture by picture servicing approach that he uses. Also, it would be good if Paul Pinyot and Mark Oppat communicate with Igor, since their work is impeccable too and they're selling as well! I would hope that our hobby gets eventual exposure on the Antique Road Show, and that something can be done to establish what is a collectable radio and how it should be serviced to receive top value. Omer "Pete_O" wrote in message news:770f65ee3b26b60779d2738a1e568112@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > This set seldome sells for more than $50, and here it is at $202, > > **I've watched Igor's sales for a long time (he's local but I don't know > him). While most of us have been buying "collectors" radios, Igor has been > buying more common radios in good shape and returning them to excellence+. > He is a craftsman who has found an opening in the market and has seized > it. > He should be commended, not condemned. I would like to stand behind him > and watch his procedures sometime- perhaps I will learn from him. -Pete > O > Article: 330095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Philips BX435A Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:42:37 -0400 Message-ID: <11ua0tdt09sts61@corp.supernews.com> References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > With Philips, did anybody ever figure out what "BS", stands for? > > Omer Mfd in Sweden. -Bill Article: 330096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Philips BX435A Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 16:56:12 -0500 Message-ID: <11ua8nv1a0nnvb0@news.supernews.com> References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> <11ua0tdt09sts61@corp.supernews.com> "- exray -" wrote in message news:11ua0tdt09sts61@corp.supernews.com... > Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > >> With Philips, did anybody ever figure out what "BS", stands for? >> >> Omer > > Mfd in Sweden. > > -Bill Well, I'll be danged! For years I've heard people use that acronym, and never realized it meant THAT! Article: 330097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Renewing speaker surrounds? Slightly OT. References: <1138941501.684074.139050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2e66u154jdligpci7bfvdp4tlqboma9cve@4ax.com> <1138967308.472474.82570@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u6mbt4qa8ol2a@corp.supernews.com> <1139021737.287096.48470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:25:27 -0600 Engineer wrote: > I don't know the Celestion 66 but I still have two Ditton 15's, owned > since new, and have seen several others - including a pair of 44's ... > IIRC, they all have rubber surrounds - far superior to foam. > Cheers, > Roger > > I picked up a set of the Dittons just a few months ago at a Habitat Store for $15. They sound very nice. IIRC from my research, they were not only some of the first passive radiator hifi speakers; but at one time were the most popular bookshelf models in the world. I had to tweak the speaker terminals on mine, otherwise perfect.... jak Article: 330098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: phatty mo Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson amp sings its first song... References: <1139005541.882273.254860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:14:35 -0800 Rune wrote: > These are great programs and will play stuff that usually take a half dozen > other programs. I use QT Alternative for OGM, MKV, and other hard-to-play > formats too. > > Quicktime is really bad. I swear they deliberately program it to be rotten > so as to make PCs look bad next to their own platform. It also tries to take > over every file linkage on your system. > > Avoid at all costs! > > Ray Few things infuriate me more than F*ckin Quicktime,and those goddamn PDF files! (I *HATE* Acrobat!..god,it's a slug.) > > > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message > news:pUREf.5010$Jg.608@tornado.socal.rr.com... > >> >>Lou deGonzague wrote: >> >>>Quicktime does not work on my computer, what do I need to make it work. >> >>Quicktime is a pox on humanity. Use Windows Media Viewer. >>Or... >>And alternative to quicktime is: >>http://www.free-codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm >>And for people that hate Real Media as I do: >>http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm >> >>Jeff >> >> >>-- >>RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to >>the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal >>force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED >>under the Internal Security Act of 1950. > > > Article: 330099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" Subject: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 02:23:07 GMT Back in the late 1970's my great grandfather passed away. He was a tinkerer with electronics. his basement was filled with partly disassembled radios >from AK breadboards, Crosleys, Emerson SW with magic eye tuning, etc. The big problem was he took things apart, made all kinds of notes about them and never put them back together. It was a mess. I grabbed a few pieces back then, thinking they were interesting and cool and my grandfather took the rest to the curb where they quickly disappeared. At the time I didn't know why. Up in the back of the attic of the big old house was a spare bedroom. It had been pretty much forgotten. A full wall and door with windows sealed it off >from the typical attic we all have come to know. Inside this bedroom was a radio for the overnight visitor to enjoy. It was huge. It was plugged into the wall. I turned on the power and started picking up stations. I quickly shut it off and brought it home. Turning it on was a big mistake. It never worked again after that. The 80's glowed cherry red, much brighter then they should have, I never quite got any further then getting a copy of a schematic for it via mail order from Supreme Publications. It has sat since then under old drapes and plastic in my basement, or garage, safely out of harms way. Part of what kept me from doing anything other than putting a fresh set of 80's in the set (lifetime guarantee from Radio Shack) was I found that the chassis is full of a wax like substance. This seems to be common radios made in the late 1920's. It looked like a nightmare to get this gunk out of the chassis. So rather than let this radio collect dust till I drop dead , needing money to pay for my daughters college tuition, I was thinking of purging it along with the remnants of the Emerson SW , a GE cathedral like radio, and perhaps the AK breadboard. I'm kind of found of the AK. Even if it doesn't work it still looks neat on shelf in my office. Maybe I should just chainsaw the Columbia (the big radio, company bought out by RCA a few years later, about 5 feet high wood cabinet, chassis filled with wax gunk). Somehow I don't think there would be much demand for a radio that difficult to repair. It is pretty cool. I've never seen a radio where the 3 tuning capacitors where coupled together with brass bands or a 10 or 12 inch speaker that looks to be made of leather rather than paper (I think it's leather, not sure exactly what it is but it sure is thick). So what do you guys think ? Chainsaw it ? eBay it ? Let my wife turn it into a silverware cabinet ? Steve N2UBP Article: 330100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Renewing speaker surrounds? Slightly OT. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 03:44:31 GMT Slightly OT? Speaker rebuilding is about as OT as wood refinishing, dial cover replacement, and coil winding. These are all very worthwhile aspects of our hobby, that of rebuilding antique radios. Any and all resources and ideas for rebuilding speakers is very welcome here. These radios have dynamic speakers that cannot necessarily be replaced with PM types, so in many instances, reconing is the only solution. The ability to do this ourselves is a big benefit. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:qsm5u11it0host54rfnpov2ru3v8j1ns7h@4ax.com... >A friend has some Celestion 66 speakers which need new surrounds on > the speaker cones. > > Are kits available as a do-it-yourself project, or are there speaker > repair specialists here in Canada that can do this work? > > Gordon Richmond Article: 330101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: BAMA DJVU Print Problem References: <11u6qakmedsiu09@corp.supernews.com> <11u759jkh20q158@corp.supernews.com> <11u7joaisthvh9c@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 23:09:28 -0500 Scott W. Harvey wrote: > - exray - wrote: > >> Ken wrote: >> >>> What I'm trying to use is Lizard Tech Djuv 3.1, that's the prog I >>> downloaded. What other way is there? Ken >> >> >> >> There's a plug-in just for viewing and printing using your normal web >> browser versus the actual program which allows you to compile files, etc. >> > > I HIGHLY recommend using the browser plugin to view/print the djvu > files. There are some djvu files that have their shape libraries in a > seperate file which ends with a .djbz extension. The browser plugin > automatically knows when it needs to download this seperate file in > order to render the image; a person who merely downloads a djvu file > from a website may not. > > Also, keep in mind that the djvu solo application is about 4 (!) years > old and is no longer being supported or updated, while the Browser > plugin is still actively supported with bugfixes and whatnot. There are > also some alternative viewers to the Lizardtech windows viewers out > there....I have not tried any of them but they might work in situations > where the Lizardtech one does not. > > -Scott For those running Linux or some other 'nix, the DjVuLibre (djview) open source variant works very well. (http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/) I have not had any problems viewing or printing any of the .djvu radio schematic files I have downloaded from any site. This program should also be available for windows users, google for it. Unlike the Lizardtech version, the open source program is still supported by it's developer. Article: 330102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson amp sings its first song... Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 23:43:48 -0500 Message-ID: <11ub0k7coo7o988@news.supernews.com> References: <1139005541.882273.254860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43E558B3.55896784@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43E558B3.55896784@earthlink.net... > Gee! And to think that I only have 21,651 PDF files on THIS > computer. It would be impossible to design circuits and repair old > equipment without them. BTW, there are OTHER programs that will open PDF > files. Yes, how in the world did people ever design circuits and repair old equipment before there were PDF files!? Article: 330103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Knapp" Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 00:01:58 -0500 Message-ID: <11ub1m7nkmacs97@corp.supernews.com> References: I think it would be a terrible shame to junk it in any manner. If you don't want it ebay it or find it a new home through some other means. Ken Article: 330104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: <2ufFf.19832$Sk1.439451@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 23:50:04 -0500 "Steve Stone" wrote in message news:g4dFf.13407$qg.9417@news01.roc.ny... > So what do you guys think ? Chainsaw it ? eBay it ? Let my wife turn it > into a silverware cabinet ? Heavens, don't let her make a china cabinet out of it when you have a perfectly good chainsaw sitting there ready to use! Seriously, is this whole story a joke, a troll, or what? Article: 330105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: I remember.... Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 00:42:16 -0600 Message-ID: <11ub7i61ji9a8ed@corp.supernews.com> References: <1139059947.469081.23660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <27140-43E4DAF4-275@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> i think i used to remember but i'm not sure Article: 330106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Binaries Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 23:37:01 -0700 Message-ID: <10955-43E59D0D-469@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <3a29u1hdkch3qiooeujlcacoj25r6lnfkc@4ax.com> news;alt.binaries.pictures.radio Article: 330107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 00:49:58 -0600 Message-ID: <11ub80kos0hd8eb@corp.supernews.com> References: "Steve Stone" wrote in message news:g4dFf.13407$qg.9417@news01.roc.ny... > Back in the late 1970's my great grandfather passed away. He was a > tinkerer with electronics. his basement was filled with partly > disassembled radios from AK breadboards, Crosleys, Emerson SW with magic > eye tuning, etc. The big problem was he took things apart, made all kinds > of notes about them and never put them back together. It was a mess. I > grabbed a few pieces back then, thinking they were interesting and cool > and my grandfather took the rest to the curb where they quickly > disappeared. At the time I didn't know why. > > Up in the back of the attic of the big old house was a spare bedroom. It > had been pretty much forgotten. A full wall and door with windows sealed > it off from the typical attic we all have come to know. Inside this > bedroom was a radio for the overnight visitor to enjoy. It was huge. It > was plugged into the wall. I turned on the power and started picking up > stations. I quickly shut it off and brought it home. Turning it on was a > big mistake. It never worked again after that. The 80's glowed cherry red, > much brighter then they should have, I never quite got any further then > getting a copy of a schematic for it via mail order from Supreme > Publications. It has sat since then under old drapes and plastic in my > basement, or garage, safely out of harms way. > > Part of what kept me from doing anything other than putting a fresh set of > 80's in the set (lifetime guarantee from Radio Shack) was I found that the > chassis is full of a wax like substance. This seems to be common radios > made in the late 1920's. It looked like a nightmare to get this gunk out > of the chassis. > > So rather than let this radio collect dust till I drop dead , needing > money to pay for my daughters college tuition, I was thinking of purging > it along > with the remnants of the Emerson SW , a GE cathedral like radio, and > perhaps the AK breadboard. I'm kind of found of the AK. Even if it doesn't > work it still looks neat on shelf in my office. Maybe I should just > chainsaw the Columbia (the big radio, company bought out by RCA a few > years later, about 5 feet high wood cabinet, chassis filled with wax > gunk). Somehow I don't think there would be much demand for a radio that > difficult to repair. It is pretty cool. I've never seen a radio where the > 3 tuning capacitors where coupled together with brass bands or a 10 or 12 > inch speaker that looks to be made of leather rather than paper (I think > it's leather, not sure exactly what it is but it sure is thick). > > So what do you guys think ? Chainsaw it ? eBay it ? Let my wife turn it > into a silverware cabinet ? > > > Steve > N2UBP get another one, add a large curved piece of polished steel between them, and contact guiness book of world records for the record on the largest pair of nonworking headphones in the world Article: 330108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Shipping 78's Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:59:57 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1138834176.327337.119680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> when I ship things like 78s that are really fragile, I sandwich them between two pieces of 1/2 inch CDX plywood (the cheap stuff) with thin styrofoam (or foamcore) between the record and the plywood. Bubblewrap may well make it worse - think about the record rattling around and flexing in the bubble wrap - that's what you dn't want On 1 Feb 2006 14:49:36 -0800, perryirwin@gmail.com wrote: >Any tips as how to have them arrive intact? Bubble wrap ok (the large >type) or do you need more protection. Just looking to ship one at a >time. TIA. Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com Article: 330109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E5A832.FD36EA2A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 1940s Dickerson amp sings its first song... References: <1139005541.882273.254860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43E558B3.55896784@earthlink.net> <11ub0k7coo7o988@news.supernews.com> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 07:25:37 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:43E558B3.55896784@earthlink.net... > > > Gee! And to think that I only have 21,651 PDF files on THIS > > computer. It would be impossible to design circuits and repair old > > equipment without them. BTW, there are OTHER programs that will open PDF > > files. > > Yes, how in the world did people ever design circuits and repair old > equipment before there were PDF files!? They would take up a lot more space if they were all printed out. I already have a 20 foot long wall covered floor to ceiling with bookshelves holding databooks and service manuals. It would fill up the rest of the house if I tried to print them all out and deleted the PDFs. Also, its easier to send someone a PDF than have to photocopy it and snail mail it. I'll have to check all of the other computers to see how many more PDF files I have collected. For those who don't know, PDF was the first format that could be read and printed under a number of different operating systems without having to worry about what kind of printer to use, or it being printed the wrong size, or edited, if it was locked. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 330110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43E5A9B4.C0A62C69@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Binaries References: <3a29u1hdkch3qiooeujlcacoj25r6lnfkc@4ax.com> <10955-43E59D0D-469@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 07:32:03 GMT "Ken G." wrote: > > news;alt.binaries.pictures.radio No, its: news:alt.binaries.pictures.radio -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 330111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: New group References: <1139109247.557797.147550@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 07:28:48 -0500 Why make another group for the same topic? Then we'll have to check both the ng AND your group for info. It's like eBay, two's a crowd. Ken Dave wrote: > I have created a new group 1 for all. Here you can post messages about > anything you want from questions about antique radio gear to your > favourite music. I really need members, so please give it a go > Article: 330112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Luke" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 07:49:24 -0600 Good one! Article: 330113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "ExtraClass" Subject: Saying 'goodbye' to my tubes Message-ID: <3ipFf.20862$eY5.16770@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:00:35 -0500 I apologize for not answering some emails about these tubes I would like to sell. My computer crashed and lost all the email information. So, again, without any further ado, here is what I have. I'm using my very old obsolete Windows95 backup. Hey...it works. Radiotron UV199 (7) in boxes UV200 (5) UV201 (2) UV201A (3 metal base and 2 plastic or bakelite base) UX201A (4) black base UX112A plastic/bakelite base WD12 (3) one has tip that is broke WD11 UV876 Ballast Tube in box UV886 Ballast Tube in box UX210 UX281 (base is loose but not gassy) Cunningham C301A (2) gassy C301A (3) C301 (2) C300 (2) C302 CX301A (2)(1 is gassy) CX381 C299 (11) DeForest DV2 (5) two are gassy DV3 DV5 (4) DV ? (4) the paper label is missing from these but have silvered glass DeForest/Marconi --Moorhead-ERB Western Electric 208A 216A VT-1 (2) VT-2 102D 102G VT-14 (GE) Misc. Delta 'gridless triode' (1923) Delta Midget RX401 (2) 401 (American Tube Label) 401 (Kellogg) (2) National Union NY224 pentode Stewart Warner (who knows) Philco 24 pentode Tung Sol TS237 Zetka-Process -Z-H- (filament bad, has paper label "March 5, 1928" Heintz & Kaufman Gammatron 354C (gassy) Amperex 6279/5C22 (glass on inside where wires from pins are enclosed is broke and pieces are in the tube) RCA CRC 808 JAN Fotos tube with base extention tennis ball type Meyers Detector RAF 2627 Meyers Audion (2) one has tip broke and the other is missing the red bakelite base at one end Royal Ediswan RAF C (1041 is etched on glass) Philips Amp Magnavox (metal base, 4 gold pins, tube is trapezoidal) 215A miniature tube with 4 solder type 'pins' unknown type....Glass is blue, no tip, bakelite base is larger than glass, letter 'E' on bottom of base) unknown type...silvered glass, bakelite base, Alden NA-ALD on bottom of base X222 or ?X-222 ...Concert Master label on tube then there is the one that says UV199 on the base but the glass is a miniature style shape, much smaller than the base. It almost looks homebrew. lol Taylor Tube 814 If anyone is interested please email me at extraclass@bellsouth.net 73's, Gary Hansen WA9DAU No trees were destroyed in the sending of this contaminant-free message. I do concede, a significant number of electrons may have been inconvenienced. Article: 330114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Pregnant with Baby Amplifier...Construction started on AX84 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:03:26 -0600 Message-ID: <22149-43E621CE-85@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1139150864.327468.148160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> A woman who works at a nurseing home in Texarkana,Texas,,,, a few days ago,she said her Poodle doggy is going to have babies at the end of the month. cuhulin Article: 330115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:12:50 -0600 Message-ID: <22149-43E62402-86@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: They quickly disapperead? Maybe that's what happened to my old second hand Doodlebug motor scooter that my dad bought for me in 1949.(my sisters rode that Doodlebug motor scooter around the neighborhood much more than I ever did.On even number days,it would start up and go,on odd number days,forget about it!) I still have one of the metal Doodlebug scooter panels here at my house to this day.alt.scooter news group. They feddd me on corbreaddd bread and beansssss,,,,,,,, cuhulin Article: 330116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:15:41 -0600 Message-ID: <22150-43E624AD-27@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Get some bubblegum and stick it back together. cuhulin Article: 330117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Binaries Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 09:32:37 -0700 Message-ID: <24877-43E628A5-154@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <43E5A9B4.C0A62C69@earthlink.net> Oops thanks Article: 330118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: 2006 CC-AWA Annual Conference Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:45:25 GMT Don't forget the CC-AWA Annual Conference in Charlotte NC, "The Spring Meet in the Carolinas" coming up on March 23-24-25. Hands down the best antique radio meet in the southeast. If you haven't made your reservations at the Sheraton, do it now. You can find all the details including a "Printable" Pre-registration form and instructions for paying you pre-reg fees via PayPal here; http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Charlotte.html It's going to be another GREAT year. We hope to see ya there. Article: 330119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 18:39:39 GMT Why do you think that any newbie here is a reincarnation of Skippy? Google his ham call, and see what you come up with. -- Mike Schultz "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:OcydnRU3t5Ng-HjeRVn-sQ@giganews.com... > Hello, Mr. Troll. I recommend that you chainsaw all of your make-believe > radios, set fire to the non-existent pile in your imaginary back yard, > then crawl back into the mud where you came from. > > Phil > > Article: 330120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 18:52:31 GMT Steve: Please excuse some of the replies here. I'm not aware of any Columbias which used two 80's, but there were several that used two 81's. If there are 81's, there should be a pair of 50's in there too, which are valuable tubes ($100+ each, if good). If you ever put 80's into the 81 sockets, that would be a disaster, and they would definitely light up brightly for a little while (7.5 volts on a 5 volt tube). When they failed, they may have taken out the power transformer, which might explain the wax. Does it have a phonograph in the top? If so, it is a much more valuable unit. Whatever you do, don't get out the chainsaw! -- Mike Schultz "Steve Stone" wrote in message news:g4dFf.13407$qg.9417@news01.roc.ny... > Back in the late 1970's my great grandfather passed away. He was a > tinkerer with electronics. his basement was filled with partly > disassembled radios from AK breadboards, Crosleys, Emerson SW with magic > eye tuning, etc. The big problem was he took things apart, made all kinds > of notes about them and never put them back together. It was a mess. I > grabbed a few pieces back then, thinking they were interesting and cool > and my grandfather took the rest to the curb where they quickly > disappeared. At the time I didn't know why. > > Up in the back of the attic of the big old house was a spare bedroom. It > had been pretty much forgotten. A full wall and door with windows sealed > it off from the typical attic we all have come to know. Inside this > bedroom was a radio for the overnight visitor to enjoy. It was huge. It > was plugged into the wall. I turned on the power and started picking up > stations. I quickly shut it off and brought it home. Turning it on was a > big mistake. It never worked again after that. The 80's glowed cherry red, > much brighter then they should have, I never quite got any further then > getting a copy of a schematic for it via mail order from Supreme > Publications. It has sat since then under old drapes and plastic in my > basement, or garage, safely out of harms way. > > Part of what kept me from doing anything other than putting a fresh set of > 80's in the set (lifetime guarantee from Radio Shack) was I found that the > chassis is full of a wax like substance. This seems to be common radios > made in the late 1920's. It looked like a nightmare to get this gunk out > of the chassis. > > So rather than let this radio collect dust till I drop dead , needing > money to pay for my daughters college tuition, I was thinking of purging > it along > with the remnants of the Emerson SW , a GE cathedral like radio, and > perhaps the AK breadboard. I'm kind of found of the AK. Even if it doesn't > work it still looks neat on shelf in my office. Maybe I should just > chainsaw the Columbia (the big radio, company bought out by RCA a few > years later, about 5 feet high wood cabinet, chassis filled with wax > gunk). Somehow I don't think there would be much demand for a radio that > difficult to repair. It is pretty cool. I've never seen a radio where the > 3 tuning capacitors where coupled together with brass bands or a 10 or 12 > inch speaker that looks to be made of leather rather than paper (I think > it's leather, not sure exactly what it is but it sure is thick). > > So what do you guys think ? Chainsaw it ? eBay it ? Let my wife turn it > into a silverware cabinet ? > > > Steve > N2UBP > Article: 330121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 13:35:04 -0600 Message-ID: <22880-43E65368-502@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: I own a Telefunken/Grundig wooden cabinet AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph floor model radio.It has a warped pot metal thingy on the front that says Grundig,but the two little paper owners manuals thingys dont mention the name Grundig at all,, they say Telefunken,the radio doesn't put out hardly any audio/sound at all,I think the radio dates back to around the year,1957.I also own a wooden cabinet table model AM/FM/Shortwave Telefunken Opus 7 radio.I need an proper electric power cord for that radio so I can try it out. www.tubesandmore.com does not have a toll free phone number.Sure,I can rig up some kind of a power cord for my Telefunken radio,but I wont do that. cuhulin From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Mon Feb 6 21:13:15 EST 2006 Article: 330122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: AMPHENOL 78-PF11 needed Lines: 26 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 19:48:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1139168927 67.53.6.126 (Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:48:47 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:48:47 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!statler.nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:330122 I'm trying to locate a part for my SBE model 33 transceiver. I need the power cord. The original is a Blue Band Power Cable W-67. I would be happy to locate a AMPHENOL 78-PF11 to create my own power cord. The plug looks like a 11 pin female tube socket Any ideas would be helpful Thanks Jim 262-894-3609 Article: 330123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: AMPHENOL 78-PF11 needed Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:55:38 -0400 Message-ID: <11ucm1ubli6sg0c@corp.supernews.com> References: James Hilins wrote: > > I would be happy to locate a AMPHENOL 78-PF11 to create my own power cord. > The plug looks like a 11 pin female tube socket > Any ideas would be helpful Check Radio Daze under Components > Plugs & Tube Accesories. -Bill Article: 330124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CLFE" References: <11ucm1ubli6sg0c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: AMPHENOL 78-PF11 needed Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:30:10 -0500 Message-ID: <43e66043$0$25067$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Write to info@clfurent.com if ya don't find one elsewhere. I have a box full of those types of plugs/sockets - whichever you choose to call them. I may have what you want. -- WWW.CLFURENT.COM WWW.CLFURENT-GIFTS.ISPEEDWAY.COM WWW.CLFURENT-GIFTS.ISPEEDWAY.COM/IMALL/ "- exray -" wrote in message news:11ucm1ubli6sg0c@corp.supernews.com... > James Hilins wrote: >> >> I would be happy to locate a AMPHENOL 78-PF11 to create my own power >> cord. > >> The plug looks like a 11 pin female tube socket > >> Any ideas would be helpful > > > Check Radio Daze under Components > Plugs & Tube Accesories. > > -Bill Article: 330125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:18:28 GMT Huh? (Scratching my head) It seems every so often somebody brings up a question, and the very first response is on the order of "Shut up you idiot!" Did Phil or anyone else trace the message to the source, to determine the originator? It seems to me that, even if the originator is one who gets his jollies from posting questions and listening to the answers, the responses should be a bit more polite. After all, how many "legitimate" people are reading these threads, and are afraid to ask a very legitimate question for fear of being trampled on? After reading this message, I do find it strange that someone knows little about how to test a radio or where the wax might come from, yet knows exactly where to find a schematic. From said schematic, are those 80's supposed to be there? Do they still glow too brightly, If so, what is the actual voltage vs. the correct voltage? Any radio collector would know better than to make a china cabinet or use a chain saw, so no response is needed for that one. However, Steve, if your inquiry is legitimate and you need some help with fixing it, please let us know. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:OcydnRU3t5Ng-HjeRVn-sQ@giganews.com... > Hello, Mr. Troll. I recommend that you chainsaw all of your make-believe > radios, set fire to the non-existent pile in your imaginary back yard, > then crawl back into the mud where you came from. > > Phil > > From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Mon Feb 6 21:13:15 EST 2006 Article: 330126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <11ucm1ubli6sg0c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: AMPHENOL 78-PF11 needed Lines: 10 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:46:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1139175980 67.53.6.126 (Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:46:20 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 15:46:20 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!statler.nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:330126 Doesn't look like they have them. The have some 11 pin plugs by no sockets (http://www.radiodaze.com/) it was a nice lead though. Thanks Jim Article: 330127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: recapping Hallicrafters S-38B question Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 18:31:26 -0400 Message-ID: <11ucv5tiivrke8@corp.supernews.com> References: <1139173787.219209.252260@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> johnrapp@bellsouth.net wrote: > > But replacing the two line to ground capacitors C27 .02 mfd, 600v and > C26, 400v.1 mfd (it says mfo on the schematic, but that must be a > misprint). I figure these are the line to ground capacitors, since they > are the only two on the schematic going from both lines to ground. > > I plan to replace the power cord with a bladed one. I plan to replace > C26 & C27 with Y2 safety capacitors. But cannot seem to find any at 400 > and 600 volts. The ones I can find are just 250 volts. > The 250 volts on the Y2 caps is an AC voltage rating. The 400 or 600 on the old caps is a DC voltage rating. They are generally good for about 250 vac as well but if you're buying, you might as well buy the AC rated ones. -Bill Article: 330128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: AMPHENOL 78-PF11 needed References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:42:55 GMT Jim, I have one. Email me for details. James Hilins wrote: > I'm trying to locate a part for my SBE model 33 transceiver. I need the > power cord. The original is a Blue Band Power Cable W-67. > > > > I would be happy to locate a AMPHENOL 78-PF11 to create my own power cord. > > > > The plug looks like a 11 pin female tube socket > > > > Any ideas would be helpful > > > > Thanks > > > > Jim > > 262-894-3609 > > Article: 330129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Speed Triple Twin Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:52:13 -0600 Hi All, I apologize if this shows up twice. My ISP burped when I sent the first one this morning. Looking for infomation regarding the Speed Triple Twin. I've not seen another tube quite like it. Large globe envelope with what appears to be two tube structures inside, wire for a grid connection on the top of the tube. Would love to know specs, age, purpose etc. and would like to find a mate for it. I can post photos if anyone would like to see it. Best regards, Raymond Article: 330130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: recapping Hallicrafters S-38B question Date: 5 Feb 2006 18:38:47 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1139173787.219209.252260@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1139173787.219209.252260@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, johnrapp@bellsouth.net says... >I really don't want to put in an isolation transformer. Why not, that's my standard approach to echophones. Works great. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 330131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:23:45 GMT I'd be happy to send anyone some photos.. I made a mistake. It is a Colonial, not a Columbia. I pulled it out from under the covers when running some conduit in the garage today. Steve 73 N2UBP "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:OcydnRU3t5Ng-HjeRVn-sQ@giganews.com... > Hello, Mr. Troll. I recommend that you chainsaw all of your make-believe > radios, set fire to the non-existent pile in your imaginary back yard, > then crawl back into the mud where you came from. > > Phil > > Article: 330132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: <2ufFf.19832$Sk1.439451@news20.bellglobal.com> Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:27:22 GMT > Seriously, is this whole story a joke, a troll, or what? Not a joke, just going over stuff I haven't touched since 1978 or so and deciding what to do with it. Steve Article: 330133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:38:35 GMT I apologize for the mistake. It's been a long time since I looked at the radio. It is a Colonial model 32AC Article: 330134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: <%wzFf.13494$qg.12729@news01.roc.ny> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:40:04 GMT Photos of the Colonial can be seen here. They are big and will take awhile to load. http://www.citlink.net/~spfleck/sub5.htm "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:OcydnRU3t5Ng-HjeRVn-sQ@giganews.com... > Hello, Mr. Troll. I recommend that you chainsaw all of your make-believe > radios, set fire to the non-existent pile in your imaginary back yard, > then crawl back into the mud where you came from. > > Phil > > Article: 330135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:46:00 GMT > Any radio collector would know better than to make a china cabinet or use > a chain saw, so no response is needed for that one. However, Steve, if > your inquiry is legitimate and you need some help with fixing it, please > let us know. > > I'm not a radio collector like you guys. I have a bunch of old radios that were my Great Grandfathers and Grandparents. I never seem to have the time to do anything with them. Too many other things going on in life right now. Steve Article: 330136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Shipping 78's From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1138834176.327337.119680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1138841810.877207.69980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 04:30:36 GMT Oh, wait!! shipping one 78 is harder than shipping a stack of them. Flexing of any kind is leathal Sandwich the single disk between two corrigated cardboard layers on each side that are square and slightly larger than the record. Tape the edges at teh middle to make a tight, stiff sandwich. You can bubble wrap that but place the whole thing in a larger box and surround the sandwich with peanuts or crushed newspaper to keep it centered and away >from possible edge damage. Ron L Article: 330137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <2ufFf.19832$Sk1.439451@news20.bellglobal.com> Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 04:46:37 GMT "Steve Stone" wrote in message news:DkzFf.13492$qg.2225@news01.roc.ny... >> Seriously, is this whole story a joke, a troll, or what? > > Not a joke, just going over stuff I haven't touched since 1978 or so and > deciding what to do with it. > > Steve > >This stuff happens all the time. For instance, here's a description of a >Sony open reel tape machine on the 'bay. Nice pix, but ..... http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-SONY-TC-854-4-Stereo-REEL-Tape-Recorder-4-Channel_W0QQitemZ5863161236QQcategoryZ67813QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Now, this was a piece of equipment made in the late 70's, and it has been sitting around for 25 plus years, unrepaired. S*** happens! Wonder if a divorce occurred over this one? Regards, Tom Article: 330138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: fs: tape recorder motor - quite old Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:07:30 -0800 Message-ID: Helping a friend clean out some storage containers that he must move - one of the items to get rid of is in a box marked "tape recorder motor - this is devinately an old motor, it has a stammp, 5 1956 on the laminations, it's square, 3 1/4 inches on a side, hangs from four rubber mounts (they are in good shape), has a yellow and a green cloth covered wire going into a two prong (round, different sized) plug. it has a four blade aluminum fan with dots on it where some fixture was used to make the fan, and it has a pulley with a diameter of .7 inches that looks like the upper part of the pulley was used to rim-drive a takeup reel or something. anyone have a clue what exactly this fits? anyone want it? (shipping will be $9 in a flat rate box, we need to argue over price) - I'll hold this for a few days then move it to E-bay - I'm out of space and I have to move this stuff quickly before he brings me more stuff from that container. thanks Bill N Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com Article: 330139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" Subject: OT mildly. Need suggestion for an alternative antenna for a car radio Message-ID: <9WAFf.55689$V.45975@fed1read04> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 22:14:06 -0700 To All, This is mildly off topic. I am looking to put an am radio out on my patio. I transmit OTR from an SStrans and would like to "build in" an old car radio for use on the patio. I know that I could just get a boom box or something else, but I think I want a car radio (read push button). So I will need to add an antenna. I don't really want a car antenna and maybe not even a loop antenna. Anyone have any tried and true suggestions???? Bob in phx Article: 330140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: OT mildly. Need suggestion for an alternative antenna for a car radio Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:55:58 +0900 Message-ID: References: <9WAFf.55689$V.45975@fed1read04> "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:9WAFf.55689$V.45975@fed1read04... > To All, > This is mildly off topic. > > I am looking to put an am radio out on my patio. I transmit OTR from an > SStrans and would like to "build in" an old car radio for use on the > patio. I know that I could just get a boom box or something else, but I > think I want a car radio (read push button). So I will need to add an > antenna. I don't really want a car antenna and maybe not even a loop > antenna. Anyone have any tried and true suggestions???? Loops don't do well on car radios. A short wire antenna is not too bad (no more than 3' long). But the best choice I've used is one of the generic replacement antennas sold for VW and the like.. easiest to mount, and shortest when collapsed. Also look fairly nice mounted on the side of a wooden enclosure. (also could mount on back). Article: 330141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 01:33:31 -0600 Message-ID: <22880-43E6FBCB-597@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: I saw all of the pictures/photos.The radio is definetly worth restoring. cuhulin From adouglasatgis.net Mon Feb 6 21:13:19 EST 2006 Article: 330142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: What do I do with this one ? Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:48:43 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <9kdeu11jl0bed7nsmt000fejvct7fv8n3t@4ax.com> References: <22880-43E6FBCB-597@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-421.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:330142 Hi, The 32AC appeared in June 1929. That was a bad time to be introducing high-end consoles, so Colonial didn't sell many. It's certainly worth restoring, to someone. Alan Article: 330143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Speed Triple Twin Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:22:38 GMT The "triple-twin" was a direct coupled dual triode used for audio output applications. Basically, the first triode is acting as a cathode follower to drive the second triode. This was the first of a series of obscure tubes which included the 2B6, 6B5, and 6N6 and some others. There was a very extensive 10 page article about these tubes and their applications in the August 2001 issue of the "Tube Collector", the publication of the Tube Collectors Association. http://www.tubecollectors.org/ There were three Speed "triple twins", the 291, 293, and 295 circa 1932. Yours is probably the latter, the least rare of the three. You're lucky to have one of them. Finding another won't be easy. If you want to experiment, the 6B5 and 6N6 are more readily available. -- Mike Schultz "Raymond Koonce" wrote in message news:akvFf.85307$0G.11874@dukeread10... > Hi All, > > I apologize if this shows up twice. My ISP burped when I sent the first > one this morning. > > Looking for infomation regarding the Speed Triple Twin. I've not seen > another tube quite like it. Large globe envelope with what appears to be > two tube structures inside, wire for a grid connection on the top of the > tube. Would love to know specs, age, purpose etc. and would like to find > a mate for it. I can post photos if anyone would like to see it. > > Best regards, > > Raymond > Article: 330144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Goodwill has a Hickok 600A FA From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1139202850.508711.81900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:38:37 GMT In article <1139202850.508711.81900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, menwagoh@msn.com says... > > >Sometimes their final price seems high (wild bidding?), but if you want >this tester you might give it a try. >http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=1787650 > > someone stole most of the correct knobs off the toob tester... would think that if it didn't work they wouldn't have bothered putting wrong knobs on it... 600A is a good toob tester.. price is good at this point.. John k9uwa /w4 snowbird Article: 330145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: Speed Triple Twin References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:53:34 -0600 Thanks Mike. I wasn't aware of the 6B5, etc. that you mentioned. I'll do some further reading on tubecollectors.org. You're right, I have a Speed 295. Looks like it might make a nice SE amp. Best regards, Raymond Mike Schultz wrote: > The "triple-twin" was a direct coupled dual triode used for audio output > applications. Basically, the first triode is acting as a cathode follower > to drive the second triode. This was the first of a series of obscure tubes > which included the 2B6, 6B5, and 6N6 and some others. There was a very > extensive 10 page article about these tubes and their applications in the > August 2001 issue of the "Tube Collector", the publication of the Tube > Collectors Association. > > http://www.tubecollectors.org/ > > There were three Speed "triple twins", the 291, 293, and 295 circa 1932. > Yours is probably the latter, the least rare of the three. You're lucky to > have one of them. Finding another won't be easy. If you want to > experiment, the 6B5 and 6N6 are more readily available. > Article: 330146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43e755a4$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Philips BX435A References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> Date: 06 Feb 2006 13:56:52 GMT Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > With Philips, did anybody ever figure out what "BS", stands for? Based on later sets I know of, I would say B for radio, S for Sweden. > "Daniele" wrote in message >> Phil Nelson wrote: >>> Follow the schematic if you can find it, >> I looked for it just curious to see what was the set speaking of.. >> and did not find any BX435A corresponding to that tubeline and >> with FM band. OTOH there is a BA435A that seems to be the correct radio. >> I wonder if the X stays for export, since BA points to Philips Austria, >> BI to Philips Italy, BF to Philips France.... ok, always something to >> learn >> i didn't noticed it in the past.. and what about the 'B'? >> Oooh, Bhilips for sure! - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 330147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43e7562c$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Philips BX435A References: <1138841354.298990.186600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11u2o3gp65njh86@corp.supernews.com> <43e755a4$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 06 Feb 2006 13:59:08 GMT maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > Omer Suleimanagich wrote: >> With Philips, did anybody ever figure out what "BS", stands for? > Based on later sets I know of, I would say B for radio, S for Sweden. You could also verify where it was manufactured, by looking at the letters in front of the serial number. The only Swedish factory I know of has the letters NF, that probably stand for Norrkoeping Fabrik. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 330148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephen Cowell" References: <1139118338.745295.15990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1139150864.327468.148160@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139229613.620399.191870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pregnant with Baby Amplifier...Construction started on AX84 High Octane... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:33:08 GMT wrote in message news:1139229613.620399.191870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Mick wrote: > > Steve Says: > > ***** > > I'd use a shorting/switch jack for both. Keeps the input quiet when > > nothing > > is plugged in. > > ***** > > > > Thanks Steve. Definitely going to do that. May add the 8 ohm resistor > > across the switched speaker switch as suggested by UKNZ05. > > > > Mick > > if you use a shorting jack for the speaker DEFINITLY use a 8 ohm > resistor like UKNZ05 said, if you dont, i suspect that your amp would > not last long if the speaker plug came out of the jack!!!!! Fender does exactly this, on purpose... shorted is better than open (for a tube amp), especially if you have a robust OT. __ Steve . Article: 330149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lazy Senior Subject: Found - Green H500 Transoceanic?? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:03:05 GMT Found a Green H-500 Transoceanic at a flea market yesterday. I had never seen one this color before, and it was in good condition so I bought it. I have researched this color on the web/usenet but cant find any indication this color was ever produced. I did find info about a Green military version but this is not a military version and is a different shade of green - a very pretty deep green. It looks like the original.. Pictures can be seen here - http://mysite.verizon.net/resqd39h/ I was going to sell this at my wife's antique mall booth but if this is rare, I may have second thoughts. Any idea on its worth? I am NOT an Ebay lover so dont suggest that route. It is in working condition but the dial cord is off or broken - havent done any restoration yet other than giving it a quick cleaning for the pics. Thanx for any info on this radio. Lazy Senior Article: 330150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Anyone in Central FL work on tube Zenith TO's? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:57:12 -0600 Message-ID: <22880-43E771D8-648@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1139234327.230032.223020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I own a half acre land in Interlachen,Florida,Putnam County.I reckon that doesn't count though. cuhulin Article: 330151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Found - Green H500 Transoceanic?? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:47:05 GMT As far as I know Zenith never produced any TransOceanic in that color. Somewhere along its' lifetime someone must have recolored the stag covering. Not sure what type of coloring they may have used. H500's of course are not rare, but they are excellent radios when restored. Larry Fowkes "Lazy Senior" wrote in message news:ZqKFf.7310$Gg1.6595@trnddc03... > > Found a Green H-500 Transoceanic at a flea market yesterday. I had never > seen one this color before, and it was in good condition so I bought it. > > I have researched this color on the web/usenet but cant find any > indication this color was ever produced. I did find info about a Green > military version but this is not a military version and is a different > shade of green - a very pretty deep green. It looks like the original.. > > Pictures can be seen here - http://mysite.verizon.net/resqd39h/ > Article: 330152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Found - Green H500 Transoceanic?? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:22:55 GMT "Lazy Senior" wrote in message news:ZqKFf.7310$Gg1.6595@trnddc03... > > Found a Green H-500 Transoceanic at a flea market yesterday. I had never seen one > this color before, and it was in good condition so I bought it. > > I have researched this color on the web/usenet but cant find any indication this > color was ever produced. I did find info about a Green military version but this is > not a military version and is a different shade of green - a very pretty deep > green. It looks like the original.. > > Pictures can be seen here - http://mysite.verizon.net/resqd39h/ > Green & Gold? Must be the Green Bay Packers special edition. jim menning Article: 330153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1139247106.486723.110850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Public thank you.... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:57:55 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1139247106.486723.110850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Anyone else want to participate? > > Terry. > I'm not sending you a Predicta! ;o) jim menning Article: 330154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: Found - Green H500 Transoceanic?? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:28:43 GMT Larry Fowkes wrote: > As far as I know Zenith never produced any TransOceanic in that color. > Somewhere along its' lifetime someone must have recolored the stag covering. > Not sure what type of coloring they may have used. I have re-examined the covering in detail and I can assure you it does not look recolored. The covering is original dark green (looks like vinyl?) with black "grain'. It is possible someone has recovered the radio in green material but if they did, it was an excellent job as it looks like it came from the factory. Lazy Senior Article: 330155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1139247106.486723.110850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Public thank you.... Message-ID: <0OMFf.40027$0e.3669@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:44:12 GMT "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:t8CdnVYfrpxOC3reRVn-jw@sigecom.net... > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:D6MFf.40026$0e.27427@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> >> "Terry S" wrote in message >> news:1139247106.486723.110850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> Anyone else want to participate? >>> >>> Terry. >>> >> >> I'm not sending you a Predicta! ;o) >> >> jim menning > > Well then, how about one of those crappy DuMont Sovereigns? ;-) (to me that is, > I'll even split shipping) > > Bruce > > > They don't fit on my van's luggage rack! jim menning Article: 330156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1139247106.486723.110850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139249644.830378.293100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Public thank you.... Message-ID: <%WMFf.40028$0e.20751@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:53:47 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1139249644.830378.293100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Darn... Jim saw thru my ploy. > > Oh yeah, Jim's another one I need to thank. He's sent me photofacts a > few times now. And a radio and speakers... > > Geez I feel like I'm one of those stupid stammering actors at the > academy awards forgetting who to thank as the music starts. > Don't worry, I think most all of the regulars in this group are here because we enjoy sharing, with or without the accolades. I think that's part of what makes this group great. We all seem to help each other out in whatever way we can. And too bad about your recent wanting of a Predicta. I think I sold 8-10 project sets over the last 10 years, anywhere from $75 to $200, depending on model and condition. I'll keep my eyes open for one in your vicinity. Any preference as to model? jim menning Article: 330157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Public thank you.... References: <1139247106.486723.110850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139249644.830378.293100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <%WMFf.40028$0e.20751@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:14:01 GMT jim menning wrote: > And too bad about your recent wanting of a Predicta. I think I > sold 8-10 project sets over the last 10 years A few years ago, I was driving through my old neighborhood and spotted a table model Predicta on the curb. I snatched it up and took it over to another colector friends house. "Is your wife home?" "No, she's at the market." "Good, give me a hand with this." As we're carrying it into his garage, his wife uplls up in the van and yells out the window. "What the hell do you two think you're doing?" No good deed goes unpunished. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lazy Senior Subject: Re: Found - Green H500 Transoceanic?? References: <1139256730.326677.154950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:20:25 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > And just in time for St. Patrick's Day. > > At the same time, when these radios were being made, "Stag" came in all > sorts of colors and at least a few different weaves/patterns. Could be > someone just wanted that color and re-did it using readily available > material at the time. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Could you maybe explain exactly what the Stag material is? I have a couple of other Transoceanics in black and the Stag material seems different from my green T.O. The green one seems more like vinyl? I updated the picture website to include a closeup of the material. http://mysite.verizon.net/resqd39h/ Thanx Lazy Senior Article: 330159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Lead dress Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 16:08:14 -0600 I'm aware that sometimes lead dress can be critical in a radio, but can someone explain the illustration I posted on abpr? It's in a Majestic I'm working on for a friend.. There is also very roundabout wiring from a "sensitivity" control... across the outer front of the chassis and back in. Near as I can figure, it just controls the bias on a couple of tubes. Cheers, Nelson Article: 330160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1139258037.901870.223220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio collection Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:18:55 GMT "cj" wrote in message news:1139258037.901870.223220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >I have been commissioned to sell a small radio collection by auction > but cannot get into the Antique Radio News because of timing- anyway to > collect with collectors who would be interested in this collection ? > Carol, will this be during one of your regular monthly auctions, or as a separate event? Too bad we didn't have a couple weeks more notice. Flyers could have been handed out at the Wisconsin and Illinois radio club meets over the last two weekends. The Wisconsin club used to have our swap meets at the Richfield Chalet where you host your auctions. But that also means a little less competition for me...see you there! ;o) jim menning Article: 330161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1139258037.901870.223220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139264918.361843.246000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio collection Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:10:12 GMT "cj" wrote in message news:1139264918.361843.246000@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Jim > This is during one of my regular auctions and I just got this > collection with in the last two weeks and the images end of last week. > Any ideas for how to get the word out better, I know this may be > conflict of interest for you but I'm trying to do the best for the > client. thanks in advance for your help! I emailed the Wisconsin and > Illinois clubs and hope this site will help too??? > I guess I wished I had seen this before I just emailed you. Your last two posts here answered most of my questions. Anyway, there is some advice in the email I sent you. jim menning Article: 330162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Lead dress References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:42:28 GMT From the looks of it, they went "round that'a way" to avoid picking up from the filament supply wiring. Jeff Nelson Gietz wrote: > I'm aware that sometimes lead dress can be critical > in a radio, but can someone explain the illustration > I posted on abpr? > It's in a Majestic I'm working on for a friend.. There > is also very roundabout wiring from a "sensitivity" > control... across the outer front of the chassis and back > in. Near as I can figure, it just controls the bias on a > couple of tubes. > Cheers, > Nelson > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 330163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1139259500.946443.20670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: KB Radio 1520 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:55:13 GMT Left wing talk is generally a financial disaster. After their ratings tank, they will reconsider. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Koste" wrote in message news:1139259500.946443.20670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > After a little more than three years of recreating the sound of WKBW of > the 50's and 60's, they've pulled the plug on oldies at Buffalo's 50kw > flamethrower in favor of left-wing talk programming. Thanks goodness we > still have AM-740 out of Toronto, otherwise there'd be nothing to > listen to on AM. > > Mike Koste > Gobs of Knobs > Ambler, PA > Article: 330164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: KB Radio 1520 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:19:31 -0700 Message-ID: <10956-43E7F5A3-261@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: As most of you already know its happened here too . As many people that i hear liking older music i cant understand what the media is doing besides promoting satellite radio . If normal am - fm had all the good music choices ``perminently`` i would probably not have satellite and put up with a few commercials . Article: 330165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1139255170.537868.25540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Further on Kutztown, and a Nice Article in ARC Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:32:02 GMT Yes, nice write up, and thanks John for the happy mention! I found a nice cache of restoration candidates and I really need to spend a bit more for the better stuff and come home with less, but its so hard to see that nice little set there for $20 knowing what it will look like when its done! Keith "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1139255170.537868.25540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://www.antiqueradio.com/Feb06_Hagman_Kutztown.html > > > > Thank you, John. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 330166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1139256571.990140.78870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Victory is Declared Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:35:09 GMT Nice set! I think I have the floor model version of it. Keith "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1139256571.990140.78870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Recently, I acquired a fairly rough Zenith 807 via eBay. I admit to a > sort-of sentimentality towards that radio as the 808 was my first > tombstone (and a keeper). So, pehaps I paid a bit too much for it. In > any case. > > When it arrived, it was quite clearly used as an insect and mouse > haven, although not as a latrine. So extremes were not required. I did > store it outside in a plastic bag with a couple of mothballs for a > short period of time to kill off any vermin, then brought it inside. > > The chassis had some rust, not an extreme amount. More ugly than > functional. The tubes were all-but-one OEM Zenith (6A7, 6D6, 75, 42, > 80). The 6D6 had the grid-cap separated, and the wire broken off below > the glass tip, so that tube is scrap. The others tested fine after > cleaning (and yes, I did etch th number on the bakelite base). I > super-glued the grid caps and bases as PM on the remaining tubes. > > The chassis had been 'previously enjoyed' at some time in the 50s or > 60s from the amount of oddball caps in place, and one of the Zenith > labeled OEM 0.2 @ 200V caps had exploded at some point (just like a > cartoon firecracker) but both ends were left in place. The speaker was > slightly nibbled but otherwise in good shape. Two hours closely > following the schematic and checking the resistors, I had the recap > done. All resistors were within 10%. One section of the Candohm was > bridged out, that resistor was good as well. The volume-control/switch > had also been replaced at some point, the shaft had come loose, but a > bit of glue took care of that. > > I had to clean all the trimmers with a very stiff brush and solvent, > two I had to take apart and sand-blast (tiny can-powered sand blaster) > to get the crumbled mica off the bases. I cut new mica from a TO-3 > transistor insulator for that. More solvents, more oiling. > > Finally, got it all back together, fired it up... Lo and BEHOLD! it > played right out of the box. Only the trimmers I rebuilt required > tweaking for full alignment, I was getting plenty of SW with 18" of > antenna. > > Now the cabinet. I do have the proper grille cloth. > > Before may be seen at: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6597626314 > > After may be seen May 12 at Kutztown. > > Hint: The replacement veneer on top is semi-book matched high-figure > (grain, that is) tropical hardwood. Let's hope my finishing skills are > worthy of it. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 330167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Public thank you.... Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:42:27 -0700 Message-ID: <10955-43E7FB03-854@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: How on earth do you get someone to mail you a free whole radio .