Article: 332187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: fa: 1.25 inch CAT 40 end mill holder References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 07:01:43 GMT William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: > it turns out that on my particualr mill, CAT 40 doesn't work, NMTB > does, so I don't need and can't use this holder Well, actually I don't. How ever, that being said, I do have a need for Morse Taper #3 and #4 odds and ends for my new Smithy. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: I need an estimate Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 03:24:38 -0400 Message-ID: <122sam4pqt1b7d3@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > It seems no matter how long you do this, there's always a new surprise > around the corner. > > Today I received a radio from a 56 Chevy. The fellow called me several > days ago, and asked about service. I told him there's no way to > estimate a 50 year old radio, particularly without seeing it, but most > units of this type go in the range of $150-250. So enclosed is a note > that says, "Call me before doing it if it's going to be over $175." > > Hoo-boy! I'll have to think about what to say when I call him, as I > want to say it in a nice way. It might be under $175, but I won't know > for sure until I've spent $150 on it. Gary, you should know already that when doing a bizness you win a few and you lose a few and thats why your prices are where they are. Your bizness profit and loss is not the customer's question or concern. He just wants a professional guess and is probably flexible if he can get a handle on the cost whether it comes out to $175.20 or $186.54. What he doesn't want is a final bill of a zillion dollars more than he had in mind so his query is quite legitimate. Quote the guy a price that you are comfortable with and stick to it. You have the experience to know what the job may entail in the worst case. If you lose money on the deal is it because you weren't sharp enough to turn it around in a couple of hours? If the guy sends you a totally rusted hulk thats too unrepairable just send it back to him. With your savvy it shouldn't cost $150 for you to 'take a look at it'. Article: 332189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: <1143823788.755535.7230@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8p-dnT0TfZd7ELDZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@athenet.net> Subject: Re: Cracked 78 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:05:57 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:e0k374$ft4$1@reader1.panix.com... > In <8p-dnT0TfZd7ELDZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@athenet.net> philo > writes: > >>As a matter of fact...you should record *all* your valuable 78's and >>only play recordings of them... >>but keep plenty of non-valuable 78's around for playing on your vintage >>equipment! > > Here's a random question: How many plays were expected from a shellac > 78 before even grandma would start to wince? Assuming reasonable care, > and a new needle each and every play. I'd guess the design lifetime > would've been at least 100 plays? I fully understand this question is > most likely impossible to answer with any meaningful precision, but > I just had to ask anyway. > > (Right now Benny Goodman's "Jersey Bounce" and The Revolting Cock's > "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" are competing for aural space in my brain. > I better go listen to something before Revco beats up Benny...) > That rate of wearing out a record would be with a heavy head and a steel needle. With a light pickup, you could get a lot of plays out of a 78. Of course, Edison's diamond discs were good for about 3,000 plays with a heavy head. Article: 332190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:47:37 -0800 Message-ID: <16380-442E9289-337@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Roger: >One more aspect...with contact potential >bias, the high value of grid resistor >generates considerable Johnson noise. >Not what you want at the input to a high >gain audio stage. Perhaps you could elaborate a bit more on this, particularly the definition of "contact potential bias" in the context of vacuum tubes. A Google search doesn't turn up much info on it. In the context of a high gain audio stage, isn't Johnson noise the product of thermionic emission itself and thermal agitation induced in the plate load resistor? Since no current flows thru the grid resistor (irrespective of its value), how does increasing the value of the grid resistor contribute to the noise? Old (but never too old to learn) coot Article: 332191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: <5mwXf.56187$915.3583@southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:45:21 GMT Let me address some of Johns comments. First, about the "rain". It never really rained, it did drizzle on and off all morning. We do have a plan to move the flea market inside incase of RAIN. Early Friday morning I talked to our group and a number of our regular vendors. ON ONE wanted to pack up and move inside. If we had done that then we would have ended up with 2 flea markets, a few folks inside, and the rest outside. The vendors that came prepared for changes in weather had no problems. I talked to a number of vendors that had one of their best Fridays at Charlotte ever. If it had been really pouring down rain, we would have moved inside for sure. Second, you left at noon on Friday, your buddy Eddie said he only stayed 1 1/2 hours. This is a THREE DAY LONG EVENT, to say it wasn't worth it is like going to a movie and leaving after the previews and then telling folks you didn't enjoy the film. There was kickoff luncheon Thursday at noon, programs all afternoon, a dinner Thursday evening followed by another program. Friday mornings flea market was followed by a huge auction with a standing room only crowd, this was followed by our annual banquet and then an open house in the contest room. Saturday morning we had one of the best flea markets we've ever had the weather was glorious, at 10:30 Saturday morning, instead of seeing mostly empty spaces where folks had packed up and headed home (like you did Friday), the market was in full swing looking like a good Friday flea market. At 10:00 Saturday morning we had the judging of our equipment contest. At the end of the flea market we had out radio rescue auction followed by our annual Saturday luncheon and contest wrap-up. You were only there a few hours, you didn't really see ANY of the conference. THIS IS NOT JUST A FLEA MARKET. As to the registration fees being too high. You COULD have saved a good bit by PRE-REGISTERING. Eddie said in reply to your message, "20.00 bucks for me to just "shop" is insane". The $20.00 bucks isn't just to shop, it's to pay for the entire event. IF all you're "just" interested in is shopping, that's your choice. We offer a lot more than just "shopping" for $20, which would have been JUST $15 IF you had PRE-REGISTERED. Maybe next year you might think about joining the rest of the folks that had a great time and really attend the conference instead of driving all the way from Vermont just for a morning flea market. Ron Lawrence, CC-AWA President and Conference Chairman www.cc-awa.org Hagstar wrote in message news:122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com... > > The weather was fine if cool up to this point, but the next morning at dawn > when I arose for the swap it was raining lightly. I drove to the Sheraton in > Charlotte assuming we'd be under cover for the flea. As explained on the > website in detail the Sheraton and AWA supposedly had a whole plan worked > for foul weather that hadn't yet been needed. Wasn't I surprised when I was > told no, we'd be out in the drizzle all day. > > As a result most good merchandise never came out of seller's vehicles, and > the stuff that did was mostly scary fixer-uppers that clearly had seen rain > before. or nice stuff quickly became fixer-uppers. I didn't dare bring out > my Scott console, and the RCA 262 as it is got a good deal of blush on the > lacquer after sitting under partial cover half the day. I sold all the > junk/fixer-uppers I brought and almost none of the nice stuff I managed to > display in the end of the van under cover. But that's the breaks of late for > me. At least I almost covered my expenses. I found the fee of $55- at the > door for admission and one space in the rain steep. I had to sing Mozart's > "Requiem" that Sunday back in Vermont so I couldn't possibly stay for > Saturday too. So I headed out about noon pretty well soaked and working on a > bad back. > Article: 332192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:58:03 GMT Here's a report on the Charlotte show by Paul Farmer. A VERY different opinion for sure. Ron ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: RE: Charlotte Swapmeet Geoff, all, Charlotte worked out to be a good meet. Attendance and vendors appeared to be about level with last year, thankfully. Perhaps some of these meets have bottomed out. Light rain much of the first day, but there was no wind, so we set up and sold lots of quality transistors and one table set only, plus odds and ends. The afternoon auction drew a huge crowd and lots of inventory, due to the slow FM for those without cover. Next year I will bring items specifically for the auction. Very good FM on day 2. I made very minor purchases only on the first day - a little 1920's Jewell tube tester with 5 meters, a nice little Knight kit mono amp, etc. On day 1 I had seen a gorgeous Emerson 600 TV, the little 7" plastic-front job in fabulous condition. The owner was not around, and it disappeared when I wasn't looking. Too bad. But then on day 2 it turned up in another space and I got it for very little more than the original vendor was asking - a steal considering condition. This is the fabric covered, portable version and there is essentially no wear. The plastic front is perfect. I have been watching for an E+ to near-mint example of one of these for years, especially one with an unscratched front. I still need the wood versions, models 610 and 639. Anybody? Could not find your brown Emerson bullet knobs. Oppat had one, but it was very distressed. Contest was good, as usual for CC-AWA. Gary Alley came away with some ribbons. Wish I had had time to prepare some entries. Robert Lozier gave a very nice, educational report on the contest at the closing lunch. We should enlist Lozier to be one of our contest judges at RadioActivity. I cannot recommend a more knowledgeable, more broadly experienced individual to judge. He really understands the significance of entries in a larger perspective. Ron Lawrence's Clough-Brengle talk and display was super. A fine presentation on many levels. Other good programs as well. Signed up quite a few new MAARC members, some with arm twisting from Koester. Thanks, Joe. (Joe, I cannot remember who I am supposed to give those newspapers too. Was it Ed? ???) Eric sold every table set he came with, and quite a lot of paper. He headed south after the meet with an empty cargo compartment and a smile on his face, looking for more radios. We headed north, very tired but very satisfied. Regards to all, Paul Article: 332193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I need an estimate Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:20:24 -0500 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > It seems no matter how long you do this, there's always a new surprise > around the corner. > > Today I received a radio from a 56 Chevy. The fellow called me several > days ago, and asked about service. I told him there's no way to > estimate a 50 year old radio, particularly without seeing it, but most > units of this type go in the range of $150-250. So enclosed is a note > that says, "Call me before doing it if it's going to be over $175." > > Gary, you've been in the business long enough to figure a reasonably close quote for the radio. Err on the high side, and tell the guy the price may vary by xx% depending on if things go good, or if unexpected problems crop up. I usually give a very high fixed quote when asked for a fixed price, and no one has ever complained. If you have a lot of work, let the guy try and find someone else to do the job with the same caliber of work and service you provide. Pete Article: 332194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:00:25 GMT Here's another comment that disagrees with John & eddie. Ron ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Ron, I attended the "Spring AWA Meet in the Carolinas" for the first time last weekend and greatly enjoyed it. The talks, meals, contest and flea market were all very well run. I hope to come back next year. Congratulations on a fine meet. Neil D. Friedman, N3DF Arlington, VA Article: 332195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 13:14:06 -0500 Message-ID: <122tgnnna8r39ed@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <5mwXf.56187$915.3583@southeast.rr.com> " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:5mwXf.56187$915.3583@southeast.rr.com... > Let me address some of Johns comments. > > > You were only there a few hours, you didn't really see ANY of the > conference. THIS IS NOT JUST A FLEA MARKET. Same song they sing in Rochester. I wish I could have stayed the three days, but in this case it was a matter of barely having the time to go at all. Organizers starting with the founders of AWA have always treated the flea market as a necessary evil. Well, it's not- it's a BIG part of the draw. I didn't preregister because I wanted to see if it would be snowing on the drive first because I had to drive 1800 miles roundtrip in March (still winter in VT/NY/PA). And I was told the whole moving inside plan was actually a "pipe dream" upon registering at 7 am. I would have brought shelter if I'd known I'd need it. Sorry, Ron, a steady drizzle isn't weather where you'd want to put anything out you cared about out- like I said, half of all offerings remained undercover for this reason. Read my reviews of Kutztown and Nashua again before dismissing me as a whiner. John H. Article: 332196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephen Wild" Subject: Questions about very early radio (1930) Message-ID: <7rzXf.62229$fd.31622@read2.cgocable.net> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 13:15:30 -0500 I have had a very old (1930) TRF console radio brought in for evaluation. I have not really dealt with a circuit this old before and have a few questions if it is not too much trouble: 1) There are a bunch of resistor values on the schematic which are defined like 7230 or 835 ohms. I am used to seeing radios which are happy with 20 % values. If these values are accurate they are in the range of 0.25 % acuracy. My guess is that 10 % components are OK but I can't help wondering if they used specially selected wirewounds and the precision is necessary. Comments please ? 2) Originally the radio was supplied with a big can wet type Mershon electrolytic capacitor. Three later block type dry capacitors were taped with cloth tape around the can, obliterating the original sticker with the values impressed on it. The schematic specifies only 8 mfd caps with no voltage rating. The replacements were rated 600, 600, and 500 vdc. I am wondering if this is overkill or if this surge voltage was necessary. The circiut is a type 80 with 325 VAC on the plates, 8 MFD (rated at 600 vdc)capacitor input to a choke, another 8MFD rated at 600 vdc, the speaker field, and another 8 MFD rated at 500 vdc. 600 VDC electrolytics are not particularly common - will I have to use 450s in series ? Any further comments about dealing with TRF sets in general - this was a fairly high end model with 3 trf 24s, 27 detector, 27 1st audio, and PP 45s for the output. Thanks for your trouble, Stephen Wild Article: 332197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 13:19:15 -0500 Message-ID: <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> Well, enjoy your meet then Ron. Since I'm not part of the inner circle there and don't have the whole three days you've made it abundantly clear both here and in person I'm not welcome. John H. Article: 332198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:20:14 GMT What the heck did I do to you? I don't even remember meeting you. Ron Hagstar wrote in message news:122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com... > Well, enjoy your meet then Ron. Since I'm not part of the inner circle > there and don't have the whole three days you've made it abundantly clear > both here and in person I'm not welcome. > > John H. > > Article: 332199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: <6UAXf.56211$915.24368@southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:54:42 GMT Thanks for the support Mark, it was GREAT to see you and your wife again this year. As far as registration fees go, consider that I spent a year planning and doing all the prep work for this event. I paid $135 for registration and meals. Ron Mark Oppat wrote in message news:94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com... > John, > how can you say that this event is not welcoming you? That is just the most > unreasonable thing you've ever said here! Because the weather was a bit > poor on Friday? Because YOUR schedule didnt allow you to enjoy all that > they were offering, including a second swap meet day that exceeded the first > (several vendors showed up Sat that were not there Friday BTW). > > > first of all, $20 is incredibly cheap, even if you just go "to shop". > I've been to this event for 14 continuous years now. It grew steadily for > the first 12, and has levelled off in the last two, but its the ONLY great > swap in the south... and, will continue to be on my schedule forever, I > think. This year's Friday was possibly the worst weather day of all the 14 > years I've been there. Its usually sunny or at least partly sunny and well > above 55, often into the 70's. No swap can offer guarantees but I think > they made the right call. It wasnt bad enough to attempt the move indoors. > This event is held at the BEST hotel of all the antique radio swaps. It > costs money to do that, LOTS of money. So your piddly $20 is too much? > Jesus, John... get a clue. And, schedule yourself more time next time or > dont bother! thats not Ron's fault or anyone elses. I spent $85 in > registration and 3 spaces to sell. That is on par with our Extravaganza in > Lansing. > Charlotte is a much nicer town and that is a much nicer hotel. Neither > Rochester or Kutztown offer similar facilites. Kutztown has no programs at > all, and the auction is just mainly junk. The auction at CHarlotte is > usually extensive, and it was again this year. > > At Extravaganza, we have a HUGE tent (150'x 40' or so) for covered selling > in addition to the uncovered flea market spaces. I recommended to Ron they > look into that... and, hopefully they can offer that in the future too. > But, those tents are quite expensive. Off the top of my head I am guessing > its up around $4000. > > John, I am a very frugal guy but to complain about $20 is just unrealistic. > The only claim you make is they should have moved indoors. Well, maybe, but > for what I experienced, they probably made the right call... it only misted > mostly, and later it quit. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com... > > Well, enjoy your meet then Ron. Since I'm not part of the inner circle > > there and don't have the whole three days you've made it abundantly clear > > both here and in person I'm not welcome. > > > > John H. > > > > > > > > > Article: 332200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:36:35 -0500 Message-ID: <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com... > John, > how can you say that this event is not welcoming you? > > John, I am a very frugal guy but to complain about $20 is just > unrealistic. > The only claim you make is they should have moved indoors. Well, maybe, > but > for what I experienced, they probably made the right call... it only > misted > mostly, and later it quit. > It was $55.00 for a space and admission for me. I'm glad everybody else had a good time. Other than you and a couple of other people all of whom I know >from northern meets no one said boo to me. I come to fleas to talk about radios and life and stuff, not just buy things. At Kutztwon I was acknowledged and greeted and shown the ropes on first arriving. I suppose you agree that since I didn't have time for the whole deal I'm not a "real" collector my experience is irrelevant. I understand perfectly well the flea stayed outdoors because it didn't matter- it's just the flea and we'll make it up Saturday I'm sure was the feeling. That's fine, now I understand not to come unless it's for the whole event. It is indeed my fault for having other interests. I know everyone worked hard to make the event work, I appreciate their efforts certainly. But I came very early to rent a table or move my stuff inside. No tables could be rented until after the 8 am start, by then I was awash in browsers. I would NEVER have come unprepared for rain if not for the elaborate explanation of rainy day procedures on the AWA website. MY experience of the meet was pretty dismal, had I known how everyone else had such a great time at the flea I would have never commented. Never mind, John H. Article: 332201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Restored Antique Radios & TV's FS Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:18:55 GMT Restored Antique Radios & TV's FS http://members.aol.com/radiorest/main.htm NEW SETS JUST POSTED! I have just added several STUNNING sets including some Black dial Zeniths, some of the finest sets I've ever offered for sale!! Just be sure to click on the "Radios for sale icon" to view the sets! My Restorations are just what you're looking for if you want a set that looks and works as new. These are completely redone, not only part of the cabinet is refinished and another part left cobbled up, the entire unit is restored. These restorations are not simple "Recappings with a new power cord" I tend to every part of the chassis that needs attention, cleaning and relubing mechanical parts, rebuilding of dial assemblies, detailed refinishing or cleaning of knobs and bezels and any specific needs of a particular chassis. My sets are not "over restored", I don't rip every component and wire from the chassis and replace it just because its old, these sets are preserved in as much of their original state as possible to keep them reliable and safe. 27 years of doing antique radio restoration goes into knowing just what needs to be done and just how it should be done when I restore one. Thanks!! Keith Park Article: 332202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:57:56 GMT On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:36:35 -0500, "Hagstar" wrote: >Other than you and a couple of other people all of whom I know >from northern meets no one said boo to me. What am I, chopped liver? I have never been to a northern meet and I was talking to you until you walked away. As others have said, you missed a good day Saturday. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 332203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Fase" References: Subject: Re: Source for BLACK spaghetti? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:32:23 -0800 I've got a roll of black spaghetti which is as you describe. How much do you need? I'll mail a small quantity at no charge. Just need your mailing address. I can be reached at: mckaigelex@wavecable.com Aloha, Dave Fase "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:ZhjWf.138$c11.122@fe06.lga... > Anybody know of a source for BLACK spaghetti like Antique Electronic > Supply > used to sell? I think they called if 11 guage (large - you can hide a 1/2 > watt resistor inside). Anyway, only WHITE is currently available, and > their > customer service says there's no chance the black will be available again. > I'm NOT into painting it (been there, done that for an AK breadboard > restoration!) > > Thanks, > Dave > > Article: 332204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann Dyer" Subject: Re: Source for BLACK spaghetti? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:49:53 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Dave Fase" wrote in message news:BYEXf.791$NJ.678@fe02.lga... > I've got a roll of black spaghetti which is as you describe. > How much do you need? I'll mail a small quantity at no > charge. Just need your mailing address. I can be reached at: > mckaigelex@wavecable.com > > Aloha, Dave Fase How much would you sell me a couple feet or so for?? I could really use some of the stuff myself (or, for that matter, any color of small gauge spaghetti). The e-mail is good. Article: 332205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Verne Folk Subject: Kutztown Date: 1 Apr 2006 16:33:13 -0800 Message-ID: Ladies and Gentlemen: I'm toying with the idea of attending the swap at Kutztown but have no idea where the action is located in town. Can anyone give me directions that I can use after I get close (in town). verne -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 332206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:13:48 -0500 After the 1KV test they wouldn't be worth a whole lot, ao why bother. Ken Bob wrote: > According to the local paper (AZ Republic), a new law in Japan makes it > illegal to sell used electronics (TVs, radios, boom boxes, presumidly > antique radios). Because of old stuff being a safety hazard. However, > used electronics can be sold if tested for leakage using a 1KV source, > and a sticker saying it passed stuck to the back of the item. > > The article mentioned that the used electronics could "lease" the used > items. Pay to lease the item for 99 years? Same cost it was to buy it > before this law? > Article: 332207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Verne Folk Subject: Re: Kutztown Date: 1 Apr 2006 17:01:04 -0800 Message-ID: References: In article , Verne Folk says... > >Ladies and Gentlemen: I'm toying with the idea of attending the swap at Kutztown >but have no idea where the action is located in town. Can anyone give me >directions that I can use after I get close (in town). verne > > I don' know why my email address is incorrectly listed but try radioactive@zoominternet.net if you can help. verne -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 332208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 01:32:58 GMT I'd like to know how many people were killed last year from old electronics and how many died from falling down the stairs. Bob wrote: > According to the local paper (AZ Republic), a new law in Japan makes it > illegal to sell used electronics (TVs, radios, boom boxes, presumidly > antique radios). Because of old stuff being a safety hazard. However, > used electronics can be sold if tested for leakage using a 1KV source, > and a sticker saying it passed stuck to the back of the item. > > The article mentioned that the used electronics could "lease" the used > items. Pay to lease the item for 99 years? Same cost it was to buy it > before this law? > Article: 332209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "James F. Mayer" References: Subject: Re: Source for BLACK spaghetti? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:05:59 GMT "Dave Fase" wrote in message news:BYEXf.791$NJ.678@fe02.lga... > I've got a roll of black spaghetti which is as you describe. > How much do you need? I'll mail a small quantity at no > charge. Just need your mailing address. I can be reached at: > mckaigelex@wavecable.com > > Aloha, Dave Fase Search Digikey for "black tubing" Got 3 hits and one of them is #12. Article: 332210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 19:28:50 -0700 From: Subject: 1930s carbon microphone. Message-ID: Folks, I have an old carbon microphone that should be in the possession and service of an old radio collector rather than an amateur radio operator . . . See it, with some details at: www.nyx.net/~wboas/mic.html Looking for a proposition . . . Bill, KC0IZI wboas@nyx.net www.nyx.net/~wboas Article: 332211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 18:32:17 -0800 Message-ID: <911-442F37B1-713@storefull-3117.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143943143.114517.111420@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Well, thats OK by me. They can send me all their Federal, Paragon, WSA and Marconi sets, etc. If the stuff is in good shape, I might even pay postage! (Hey, it's April 1st, I can dream can;t I ) Article: 332212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:48:20 -0400 Message-ID: <122uero5s8br686@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: >>According to the local paper (AZ Republic), a new law in Japan makes it >>illegal to sell used electronics > > > Do you have a pointer to an online version of the article? > > Phil Nelson > > Phil, I read one of the original news articles about this several weeks ago...there was a link on ARF. The law is not designed to prohibit sales of used electronics inasmuch as it is an electrical safety thing. You can't sell stuff thats not up to the new code. I think the UK has something like this...the obvious practical workaround is to cut off the cord. -Bill Article: 332213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:49:29 -0500 Message-ID: <122ueu4hsfl30df@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> "Brian McAllister" wrote in message news:cm4u225umt1d376rqcm2trt5t6b05e5dgt@4ax.com... > > What am I, chopped liver? I have never been to a northern meet and I > was talking to you until you walked away. Sorry, Brian, no insult intended. I was simply unprepared for the idea that Friday would be a washout, and that I needed to devote two days minimum to this event. Like I said, forget I said anything. John H. Article: 332214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 22:59:46 -0400 Message-ID: <122ufh58up20b93@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <122uero5s8br686@corp.supernews.com> More info and links here: http://tinyurl.com/jsddn Article: 332215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:26:15 -0800 Message-ID: <71hu22dsg9afesq9qd4e5tjdoe3lpr9egh@4ax.com> References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1143942165.370479.84060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 1 Apr 2006 17:42:45 -0800, "AB9GO" wrote: >Well if they can't sell them, GIVE them to me! I'll take all the nasty >old Western Electric, McIntosh, other dangerous hifi stuff off of your >hands for free or a small disposal fee fore the less desireable items! I remember no less than 8 WECO 101As, pilfered from the Los Angeles Program Operating Center of Pacific Telephone, that went to Japan. Maybe we can have them back again? Article: 332216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 03:24:16 GMT Hagstar wrote in message > At Kutztwon I was acknowledged and greeted and shown the ropes on first arriving. > Well damn John, I can't believe no "acknowledged" you. I will find out who was on the desk when you arrived and have them whipped for not letting us know that the GRAND POOBA of radio collecting had arrived. And to think, we had the Harold Trumpets standing by to give you a fanfare and the Blue Angles were all set to write your name in the Carolina Blue sky above the flea market... Ron Article: 332217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 1930s carbon microphone. Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:33:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 19:28:50 -0700, wrote: > >Folks, > >I have an old carbon microphone that should be in the possession >and service of an old radio collector rather than an amateur >radio operator . . . > >See it, with some details at: > >www.nyx.net/~wboas/mic.html > >Looking for a proposition . . . Not proposing, but my grandfather did indeed have a Victor RE57, and somewhere in my family archives are snaps of him, my uncles and mother making "home records" on it in the front room, circa 1933. Grandpa was quite a fan of making "home talkies" back then, and I still have a number of 78 RPM discs of the family discussing their trip to the Chicago World's Fair via Santa Fe's best train at the time. Decades later, my own dad was an RTR fan who had a Berlant Concertone as well as a couple of Bells. It was his tape hobby in the '50s that opened the door for me to dabble in the recording industry in the '70s-present. dB Article: 332218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:37:28 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1143945485.700809.264570@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 1 Apr 2006 18:38:05 -0800, "RadioGary" wrote: >Good, more for us. The Japanese, when they were devouring our domenstic auto and electronics industries, were flush with cash and were paying stratospheric prices for any tube American audio gear. Maybe they'll start eBaying their stuff, now that Japan's economically challenged and the no-sale law is in effect. Article: 332219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: fa: 1.25 inch CAT 40 end mill holder Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:33:46 -0800 Message-ID: References: I guess "oops" is the right statement here - I meant to put this in a metal working NG. That said, what do you need? - maybe we should take this metal related chatter off this NG - On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 07:01:43 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > >William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: > >> it turns out that on my particualr mill, CAT 40 doesn't work, NMTB >> does, so I don't need and can't use this holder > >Well, actually I don't. How ever, that being said, I do have a >need for Morse Taper #3 and #4 odds and ends for my new Smithy. > >Jeff Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann Dyer" Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 15:09:25 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1143945485.700809.264570@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1143950297.075917.145770@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "Steven" wrote in message news:1143950297.075917.145770@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > It's April 1st, does that mean anything? > > Like a satire on the Japanese buying all our stuff for silly rates? > > Besides, anybody with any nugget of Jim Lansing's could be thinking of > hiring a Navy :-P > Nope, it's real. Article was in the NY Times a few weeks ago. A lot of stores started selling pre-2001 electronics for pennies on the dollar (Sen on the Yen) several weeks ago.. and there are sellers on Ebay now with bargains and not-so-bargains because the law doesn't restrict foreign sales. Article: 332221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143823788.755535.7230@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1143848875.146375.276330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cracked 78 Message-ID: <4ZJXf.12740$cY3.8037@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 06:14:24 GMT Neither will work. The superglue will form a lump before wicking far and most old records had a fibrous core that superglue won't work with. If it's solid plastic (this was a transition period) look for one of the slow setting superglues that will have time to penetrate but expect them to cause more noise, perhaps skipping, at the crack, at least at first, and don't surprised if it doesn't hold. The solvent glues won't work on these types of material either unless it's a disc that was pressed out of a styrene/ABS-type plastic as some were at one point. I think this one is too old but even if it wasn't the cement would wick slightly into the grooves at the crack and create more noise by eating at the surface. If the "B" side isn't important you can reinforce it with tape over a seam of contact cement. It _may_ prevent it from worsening. If both sides are important (I can't recall what the other side of it was) you may just have to live with it. Never lift it near the crack, use the other side (180 degrees away from crack) to handle it. Put a dot of white paint on the edge so you always know where the crack is. With cartridges and arms made after the advent of 45s and LPs the compliance and tracking force greatly reduce wear compared to the old heavy arms and steel needles. If you are using it on older phonos it will still last a while but the groove edges at the crack will break down and get louder after a while, eventually allowing skips. Ray "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:1143848875.146375.276330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Of course everyone's missing the point here . . . > > I already have a really clean digitized copy of "St. George and the > Dragonet." I've had it long before I found this record. Some other > cracked 78's include Bing's "Christmas In Killarney." How many times > have you heard that song, or the whole album, on LP, 8-track, or CD? > Not like it's the last existing recording in all the world. But just > like you prefer listening to that crackly old lo-fi AM radio to the > stereo in your living room, I want to clean up and keep this record, > possibly playing it for people at times. Indeed I've been playing a > few of these at car shows, in front of people who remark about the fact > that I'm playing "real" records. > > The two glues I mentioned are types that will not drip or drool all > over the grooves, but that look for gaps, seep in, and bond the gap > together. I wanted to get a feel for which might be the better choice. > > Gary Tayman > 45's & 78's > Article: 332222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:17:33 GMT There were some nice sets, even consoles, made with series-strings. They were popular with low-income people and those who lived in areas still served by ex-Edison power companies (DC service) and those who relied on generator service, such as islands, ships, trains, and remote places. Those markets dried up with rural electrification and the advent of alternator power for portable uses but the series-string designs were entrenched and cheap to make and sell. In radios they were generally dependable, at least as dependable as transformer sets because the highest failure items were common to both - tubes, condensers, and resistors. People got used to them and by the late 40s series sets were the rule and few would pay extra for a small set with a transformer supply. But some good one were still made. GE made several "Musaphonic" models that had high-quality (relatively) amplifiers and better speakers. They sound wonderful even today. Most had RF amp stages and were real station-pullers. They were made into the early 60s and added AM-FM capability. Motorola also made a stab at the market with a set with a similar speaker and a push-pull output in the late 50s. 7 tubes in the RF amp-equipped version. Didn't sound as good as the GEs though. Zenith made a few higher-quality "Hi-Fidelity" sets too. TVs were VERY expensive in those days, especially relative to average incomes. Knocking a few bucks off the price meant a lot and gave an edge at the retail level. Few had the knowledge or interest to look into the technical or design aspects. Series-string sets came to dominate the market after the early 50s but they were not as stable or dependable as transformer designs. They were dependent on resistor survival and prone to heat and component overload failures. But it seems people got used to it and accepted having to get frequent repairs or buy new set every 5 years. Some fancy consoles had series chassis in them, even elaborate ones with radios and phonos in them. People are suckers for a lower price. I don't think any series set qualified as a "fine" set performance-wise. Most were known as "gutless wonders" and people were happy that they performed at all. Even today we have transformerless TVs. They are, as a group, not very dependable either although some perform wonderfully while they work and throw in every feature you can imagine. Ray "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:hrmdnSoHmMcaabDZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@giganews.com... > Series-string radios, like the "All American Five" sets, and TVs, like the > postwar 7-inch sets or Predictas, for that matter, were designed to cut > costs by omitting the expensive power transformer. In my experience, the > cost-cutting urge often shows up in other ways, as well. > > My question is: are there any truly fine radios or TVs that use the > series-string design? I mean fine in build quality as well as performance. > > I can think of one exception to the cost-cutting imperative: the Colonial > Globe, where a power transformer would have been too big and heavy for the > cramped, spherical Bakelite cabinet. Same for all tube portables, > naturally (although low cost is also desirable for a portable). > > Perhaps there are others . . . ? > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 332223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I need an estimate Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:56:23 GMT That's why public shops have examination fees. They charge $85.00 to look at it (usually an hour and a half labor) and sometimes they fix it in 30 minutes and all are happy. Other times they bust their butts finding the problem and lose money but overall it evens out. They aren't dealing with this level of decrepitude, of course. When I was working too much in another field to play with these sorts of things I ran into a lot of "it can't be fixed" or obvious wild-ass guesses and high quotes (without even opening the thing) for what later turned out to be a half dozen electrolytics when I did it myself. Annoying to a customer but understandable to us. I have given people tiered quotes like car mechanics sometimes do - If it just needs a recapping and simple alignment $XX.00, if a transformer or coil is shot $XXX.00 or more. Make it plain that the latter condition is not uncommon but they might luck out, just don't expect it. If it's a rust pile I would tell them all bets are off and they should look for another. '55-'56 Chevy sets aren't too hard to find. A lot got pulled while working to make room for AM-FM and tape units or newer lo-volt hybrids and sat on shelves till now. You should know what you can afford to sink into it time-wise and should have some idea after a simple or temporary (quick & dirty) re-cap as to its state. Parts cost should be low to that stage. Make the combination your "evaluation fee." The other dummies are common and annoying but come with the territory. When I did this stuff for an income I had it all the time. The drivers or people at the front counter would just write down whatever the customer said or wrote and it was mayhem. Some gave vague things like "redo" and others used technical jargon they did not understand the meaning of to describe problems. Many an hour was wasted trying to find a named problem when it would turn out to be something unrelated. I am somewhat amazed that people can still send packages without return addresses on them but I get them all the time. Shippers are not supposed to accept them. Sometimes I remember a call or email and can ask but I often have to wait for a complaint or inquiry as to whether it got here safely. Don't get me started on packing. My favorite of all time was the guy who wanted to know what it would cost to repair his Wollensak T-1515-4 tape recorder. Asked what was wrong with it he replied it just needed belts, a routine job at the time. I gave him the average price for it and he said he'd be right down. A little while later the guys at the front counter call me up front. There's my man with 3 boxes. What was in them? The recorder, all in pieces. He had tried to put the belts in himself and couldn't get it back together. Why hadn't that been mentioned before? It turned out cheaper than I had expected because I didn't have to spend time taking things apart, just putting it together, but I still won't give a quote without seeing things now. Ray "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > It seems no matter how long you do this, there's always a new surprise > around the corner. > > Today I received a radio from a 56 Chevy. The fellow called me several > days ago, and asked about service. I told him there's no way to > estimate a 50 year old radio, particularly without seeing it, but most > units of this type go in the range of $150-250. So enclosed is a note > that says, "Call me before doing it if it's going to be over $175." > > Hoo-boy! I'll have to think about what to say when I call him, as I > want to say it in a nice way. It might be under $175, but I won't know > for sure until I've spent $150 on it. This is a little like going to a > gas station and saying, "fill it up, but if it's going to be more than > $40, don't give me any." > > I don't think we have a full moon, but wasn't there a solar eclipse in > Brazil? Maybe that explains it. I just got another radio, with a note > that says, "Redo the radio." Does he mean repair or conversion? I got > yet another, that was packed in a box. Inside the box was a cooler, > just big enough for the box. Inside the cooler were packing peanuts. > Under that was a radio, wrapped neatly in some sort of styrofoam wrap > and sealed with tape. I undid the tape, opened it up and found another > layer, sealed with tape. Then another layer, and another. There were > four layers, each wrapped in tape -- I swear he used an entire roll of > tape. About 45 minutes later, inside all of this was a radio from a > T-bird. Whose? What does he want? No note. > > I continually receive e-mails stating that a radio is on its way, but > they need my shipping address. I refer them to this link: > > http://home.gate.net/~gtayman/shipping.htm > > After reading that, it's still amazing how I receive these radios! Of > course if there's damage, blame UPS! > > Gary Tayman > 78's & 45's > From popipnouattfree.fr Sun Apr 2 09:14:00 EDT 2006 Article: 332224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Popipnou" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Characteristics of the tubes. Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:52:37 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <442f9ee8$0$2583$636a55ce@news.free.fr> Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 02 Apr 2006 11:52:40 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.250.82.57 X-Trace: 1143971560 nnrp16-1.free.fr 2583 82.250.82.57:4197 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.astraweb.com!newsrouter-eu.astraweb.com!proxad.net!cleanfeed2-a.proxad.net!nnrp16-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:332224 Hello. Somebody could it communicate the characteristics of the following tubes to me : E130 SIF - 3033A LMT - 3370 VISSEAUX - R86 DARIO - PTT 10F Thank you in advance. Article: 332225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:14:33 -0400 Sorry Jeff, I forgot the :) Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Ken wrote: > >> After the 1KV test they wouldn't be worth a whole lot, ao why bother. Ken > > > I don't think you understand what a 1KV test is. It's leakage. > It's a non-destructive test to show that no exposed parts of > the equipment have an electrical path to the power cord > connections. > > Jeff > Article: 332226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: Congrats to Ron Lawrence Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 10:04:18 -0400 Ron's vintage ham station made CQ Magazine's cover for April! Congrats Ron! Pete Article: 332227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Congrats to Ron Lawrence Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:33:01 GMT philo wrote in message > http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/Apr06CQCvr.jpg > I didn't see any spark-gap stuff in that picture My one complete spark transmitter is in a glass case at Discovery Place Science museum in Charlotte. You can't see it in the photo but to my right is a display case with all my small stuff including most of my spark stuff. Ron Article: 332228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 10:49:29 -0400 Message-ID: <122vp46kphjri77@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> Thanks for the words of wisdom Mark. Being cold and wet skewed my attitude- I was welcomed. Next time I will stay for Sat. at least. I could have stayed for the auction, but have never seen one that isn't mostly junk and no one there seemed to want to lug anything inside I realized by that point so I didn't expect much. Apologies to the Charlotte AWA, I never intended this post as anything but mild kvetching and it reflected my own individual experience. Next time I'll bring the tent. John H. Article: 332229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Congrats to Ron Lawrence Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 07:53:02 -0700 Message-ID: <2747-442FE54E-518@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: Hey cool. But where's the coherer-decoherer set? :-) oc Article: 332230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: I need an estimate References: <1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2SRXf.740$up2.40@fed1read07> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 08:13:07 -0700 Just a thought. Be careful about using the word "quote" vs the word "estimate". To many people (including me) they imply very different things. Bill Jeffrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rune wrote: > I still won't give a > quote without seeing things now. > > Ray Article: 332231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:21:58 -0400 Message-ID: <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Evidentially everyone but us had a great time, eddie. I can't see displaying wood radios put together with hide glue in the drizzle even in a tent. I'll consider this event as a buying thing if I return. But it seems few others in the club minded the rain. It's just a different attitude, not our in this case. This will always be a Conference first and flea market second, that is not likely to change. John H. Article: 332232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Congrats to Ron Lawrence Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: <122vrkjgncdksfe@corp.supernews.com> References: <2747-442FE54E-518@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Nice setup, Ron. -Bill M Article: 332233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 08:21:34 -0700 Message-ID: <2747-442FEBFE-523@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: >From 'Rune': >...they were generally dependable, at >least as dependable as transformer sets >because the highest failure items were >common to both - tubes, condensers, >and resistors. Failure of resistors and condensers was NOT common during the expected 'service life' of the set. Not until they were decades old would condenser leakage and resistor drift become the routine problems.. as witnessed by restorers of old sets. Tubes were by far the biggest failure mode- rectifiers and AF output (like 25Z6, 25L6) accounting for probably 90% of failures - open heaters or occasionally H-K shorts. Then with the advent of the 35W4 and 50C5, failure rate REALLY skyrocketed with open heaters and H-K shorts due to the high power dissipated by those tubes' heaters. Routine problems with resistors and condensers would await future aficianados. Bill(oc) Article: 332234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What is the going rate for a speaker recone? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:54:13 -0600 Message-ID: <21351-442FF3A5-889@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: What I preach is most damaged speakers are totally repairable in the home using household materials. You dont need to recone about 80% of the ones that I see. Most serious is damaged voicecoils or spiders of course. Then its usually recone time. Mark Oppat I agree 100 % with that . The only time i get real picky about a fresh cone is on a very valuable radio . Interesting here yesterday i drug home another jukebox . 3 out of its 4 speakers were toast . Of all things a piece of metal had fallen and landed in the12`` woofer and stuck to the frame right on top of the spider and pulled the cone all the way in . The magnet caused the metal piece to do this instead of falling out . I was able to remove the cone and replace only the spider . The other 2 speakers are 5x7 ovals . one open the other with a rubbing coil . The darn voice coils were 20 ohm . I had new replacement 20 ohm coils with nice aluminum forms , new cones & spiders those get finished today . I can still do some recones and VC work . As i went back through my stuff i did see several very deep 12`` cones for odd speaker work . forgot i had those Article: 332235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 10:02:53 -0600 Message-ID: <21351-442FF5AD-893@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <122vp46kphjri77@corp.supernews.com> No ... you will do what you always have done-in this case gotten away with- no matter what because being wrong is just not possible or acceptable. Article: 332236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Congrats to Ron Lawrence Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 16:59:36 GMT Here's a link to the display at Discovery Place. http://cc_awa.homestead.com/DiscoveryPlace.html The spark transmitter was built by 4HK a 12 year old boy in Reidsville NC in about 1920. It's made almost completely of found junk box parts. Ron philo wrote in message news:XrednX0nybWpfrLZRVn-tA@athenet.net... > >> http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/Apr06CQCvr.jpg > >> I didn't see any spark-gap stuff in that picture > > > > My one complete spark transmitter is in a glass case > > at Discovery Place Science museum in Charlotte. > > If you have a picture somewhere it would be nice to see it. > The closest I ever got to a spark-gap transmitter was when I had a shorted > Article: 332237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:08:29 -0400 Message-ID: <123018f8paru68f@corp.supernews.com> References: <122vp46kphjri77@corp.supernews.com> <21351-442FF5AD-893@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > No ... you will do what you always have done-in this case gotten away > with- no matter what because being wrong is just not possible or > acceptable. > :) Article: 332238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143998456.456850.169760@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Rare Remastered THE ROBE, Remastered 5.1 TEN COMMANDMENTS laserdiscs Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 13:35:22 -0400 Why is this OFF TOPIC crap building up here? Article: 332239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143998384.896142.264560@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Last Hours! Rare NEW ORDER STORY Laserdisc Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 13:35:40 -0400 More crap. Article: 332240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 10:34:11 -0700 Message-ID: <22987-44300B13-46@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <442FF943.7040301@adelphia.net> Thanks for the link, Roger. It's refreshing to get updated on more arcane aspects of things we once made our living at and took for granted. Bill(oc) Article: 332241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Rare Remastered THE ROBE, Remastered 5.1 TEN COMMANDMENTS laserdiscs Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:08:52 -0400 Message-ID: <12304pn2t46mh2c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143998456.456850.169760@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Uncle Peter wrote: > Why is this OFF TOPIC crap building up here? > > Betcha a dollar its the same 8-track a$$hole. Article: 332242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: FWIW color marking Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:17:36 -0500 Folks, Thought I'd share this notion. Confronted with R&R of an RF transformer assembly consisting of four primary-secondary sets in one can, I did the usual... diagrams to a fare-thee-well, and numerous digital photos. Then I dug out the old set of artists' acrylics. Used the brightest colors, and put a dot of color on the end of each wire, and the same color on each corresponding connection before disconnecting it. It ain't pretty, but I feel a lot more confident doing this. Acrylics can be reasonably cheap, they dry in minutes, and can be thinned/cleaned off with water before they dry. They can be scraped off in many cases later. Hardly OEM, but I don't expect anyone to be looking inside this thing later anyway. Maybe later I'll make a painting of the radio. Or... not.:>) FWIW Nelson Article: 332243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3366-443025EA-749@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> I WILL BE PROVIDING A SET OF MOLDS, PROTECTED PLASTIC AND A SHEET OF INSTRUCTIONS FOR MAKING PLASTIC DIAL COVERS. THESE DIAL COVERS ARE THE SAME AS THE ONES I MADE OVER 5000 OF BEFORE MY STROKE. NO VACUUM DEVISE IS REQUIRED, THE PLASTIC IS NOT OF THE TYPE NORMALLY AVAILABLE FROM HOBBY STORES FOR THE MAKING OF COCKPITS AND SUCH. THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE COMPLETE IN EVERY WAY. THE KIT CONSISTS OF SIX PIECES OF PLASTIC 6 1/2" x 6 1/2", SIX PIECES OF 1/4" FIVE PLY PLYWOOD 6 1/2" X 6 1/2" FOR USE AS THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE MOLDS. THE POSTAGE IS INCLUDED IN THE PRICE AS IS NORMAL FOR ALL MY PROJECTS. PRICE FOR THE KIT IS $18.00 OR ABOUT $3.00 PER UNIT. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 332244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: exray@coqui.net Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:45:28 -0500 Message-ID: <25559-443029D8-839@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I NEED TO CHANGE ABOUT MY WEBSITE. REMOVE THE AD FOR MICA, I RAN OUT. INCLUDE THE PART FROM THE NEWSGROUP ABOUT THE PLASTIC, MOLDS AND INSTRUCTIONS. EXACTLY AS WRITTEN, FOLLOWING THE PART ABOUT PLASTIC DIAL COVERS. I HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF USING A TWO WHEELER RATHER THAN THE WHEELCHAIR. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 332245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 16:25:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1230cpao0nrkpb9@corp.supernews.com> References: <122vp46kphjri77@corp.supernews.com> <21351-442FF5AD-893@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <123018f8paru68f@corp.supernews.com> I guess these are the crows that pick at what's left after the dogs finish, eddie. John H. Article: 332246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44303F9A.C15D3A5F@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: exray@coqui.net References: <25559-443029D8-839@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:18:18 -0400 --------------F4596501AC2EC219B98A5716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI BILL, HOW ARE YOU DOING? GLAD YOU CAN GET AROUND A LITTLE EASIER. I WISH YOU A FULL RECOVERY. REGARDS, SAL BRISINDI Bill Turner wrote: > I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I NEED TO CHANGE ABOUT MY WEBSITE. > > REMOVE THE AD FOR MICA, I RAN OUT. > > INCLUDE THE PART FROM THE NEWSGROUP ABOUT THE PLASTIC, MOLDS AND > INSTRUCTIONS. EXACTLY AS WRITTEN, FOLLOWING THE PART ABOUT PLASTIC DIAL > COVERS. > > I HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF USING A TWO WHEELER RATHER THAN > THE WHEELCHAIR. > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. --------------F4596501AC2EC219B98A5716 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI BILL,
HOW ARE YOU DOING? GLAD YOU CAN GET AROUND A LITTLE EASIER. I WISH YOU A FULL RECOVERY.

REGARDS,
SAL BRISINDI

Bill Turner wrote:

I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I NEED TO CHANGE ABOUT MY WEBSITE.

REMOVE THE AD FOR MICA, I RAN OUT.

INCLUDE THE PART FROM THE NEWSGROUP ABOUT THE PLASTIC, MOLDS AND
INSTRUCTIONS. EXACTLY AS WRITTEN, FOLLOWING THE PART ABOUT PLASTIC DIAL
COVERS.

I HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF USING A TWO WHEELER RATHER THAN
THE WHEELCHAIR.

CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.

--------------F4596501AC2EC219B98A5716-- Article: 332247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: exray@coqui.net Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:29:47 -0400 Message-ID: <1230gie8380ir79@corp.supernews.com> References: <25559-443029D8-839@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Bill Turner wrote: > I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I NEED TO CHANGE A little email confusion but message received. -Bill M Article: 332248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann Dyer" Subject: Re: I need an estimate Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:04:47 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2SRXf.740$up2.40@fed1read07> "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:2SRXf.740$up2.40@fed1read07... > Just a thought. Be careful about using the word "quote" vs the word > "estimate". To many people (including me) they imply very different > things. > To far too many people, they are synonyms. You give someone an estimate and they think it's a set in stone figure. Article: 332249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann Dyer" Subject: Re: Connecting Discman/iPod to 1960s Maganvox Console Radio? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:09:19 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1144006564.236409.87290@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1144006564.236409.87290@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello, > > I recently purchased a large Magnavox Astro-Sonic console radio - > transistor-style, stereo, AM/FM, with a phonograph. It's the style with > the sliding top covers and decorative handle pulls on the front. > > Everything works well, and I'm very happy with the radio. However, I've > been curious about attaching an input into the radio's auxilary input - > ideally, a headphone jack-type input off of a CD player, Minidisc > player, or iPod/MP3 player. > > There is an "AUX" setting on the radio's input knob, and the manual (in > original, pristine condition!) refers obliquely to the ability to > connect an "external tape recorder" to play or record and "conventional > sockets on the radio chassis" through which it could be connected. Basically, open the back of the thing, you'll see two pair of RCA jacks on the chassis. One says REC (or Tape OUT) and the other PLAY (or Tape In). Use the latter pair. You can buy cables at R/S with a 3.5mm plug on one end and RCA plugs on the other that will do just what you want to do. Those inputs should be just fine for what you want to do. Article: 332250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 19:58:53 -0400 Message-ID: <1230paaa5p0iddd@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> Which is it? Did I come for "nothing" or the most important part that most people come to? If it's what most people come for, what's wrong with coming the first day and expecting something? Saturday at most of these events is a sad joke played on working people, suddenly it became THE day. But don't count on that next year. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:csKdnWdU757Lwq3ZRVn-uQ@comcast.com... > John, > I dont agree, I think most come for the flea market still at Charlotte Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:5mwXf.56187$915.3583@southeast.rr.com... > Let me address some of Johns comments. > > > You were only there a few hours, you didn't really see ANY of the > conference. THIS IS NOT JUST A FLEA MARKET. Article: 332251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: Fraud alert---A whole flock of Zenith Waltons on eBay right now Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 01:58:52 GMT Beware of all the fraudulent eBay auctions for Zenith Waltons or Fender Stratocasters that open and redirect immediately to a log in page. DO NOT ENTER YOUR ID AND PASSWORD WHEN VIEWING THESE This appears to be some kind of phishing attempt, and they've found a way to do it right through eBay. The following fraudulent listings are found under seller boydas1. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZboydas1QQhtZ-1 Auctions: 6619139764 9707331265 7404299510 7404299231 7756417440 7020528675 7606434211 9707327933 6866888981 8403368514 6619130066 6619129618 7402760369 They appear to be a combination of real (?) auctions 7403541761 and 6617375126. jim menning Article: 332252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Fraud alert---A whole flock of Zenith Waltons on eBay right now Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 22:08:38 -0400 "jim menning" wrote in message news:wj%Xf.39325$Eg2.9231@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > Beware of all the fraudulent eBay auctions for Zenith Waltons or Fender Stratocasters > that open and redirect immediately to a log in page. > > DO NOT ENTER YOUR ID AND PASSWORD WHEN VIEWING THESE I don't get the redirection page asking for a log in. BTW, no one will fall for that, the grille cloth is installed wrong. Ruins the radio. Pete Article: 332253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Fraud alert---A whole flock of Zenith Waltons on eBay right now Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 02:46:15 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:Ls%Xf.9695$FD4.6157@dukeread07... > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:wj%Xf.39325$Eg2.9231@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> Beware of all the fraudulent eBay auctions for Zenith Waltons or Fender > Stratocasters >> that open and redirect immediately to a log in page. >> >> DO NOT ENTER YOUR ID AND PASSWORD WHEN VIEWING THESE > > > I don't get the redirection page asking for a log in. > > BTW, no one will fall for that, the grille cloth is installed > wrong. Ruins the radio. > > Pete > > > I wasn't worried about people being fooled by the auction and bidding, I was warning people of the "phish". For those who do get the redirected page, this could fool them as it is a redirect >from real eBay pages. The redirect is fairly quick. You get a quick look at the auction page, then it's off to the false sign-in page. jim menning Article: 332254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: craigm Subject: Re: Fraud alert---A whole flock of Zenith Waltons on eBay right now References: <1144032230.362501.37670@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:01:23 -0500 Steve Reeves wrote: > I didn't get the redirect either using Mozilla Firefox as a browser > however I did when using Micro$oft internet explorer. If you're gonna > spoof an auction at least the description should fit the picture. and > the logon page redirects to a spoofed ebay motors page. > Well it's Sunday night time for the Jack Benny program on the ol philco > via my sstrans. no one but Clear Channel tries to hack into that box. > Regard, > Steven Reeves Setting your security higher in IE will stop the popup. The popup goes to a Juno IP address. craigm Article: 332255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Fraud alert---A whole flock of Zenith Waltons on eBay right now Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 23:01:03 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:wj%Xf.39325$Eg2.9231@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> Beware of all the fraudulent eBay auctions for Zenith Waltons or Fender > Stratocasters >> that open and redirect immediately to a log in page. >> >> DO NOT ENTER YOUR ID AND PASSWORD WHEN VIEWING THESE > > > I don't get the redirection page asking for a log in. > > BTW, no one will fall for that, the grille cloth is installed > wrong. Ruins the radio. > > Pete It's written in Java...Pretty clever. Using eBay as a phishing gate... The fake login is redirected here: http://www.john7000.computed.net (66.28.205.141) Syl Article: 332256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:18:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: Phil Nelson wrote: > Series-string radios, like the "All American Five" sets, and TVs, like the > postwar 7-inch sets or Predictas, for that matter, were designed to cut > costs by omitting the expensive power transformer. In my experience, the > cost-cutting urge often shows up in other ways, as well. > > My question is: are there any truly fine radios or TVs that use the > series-string design? I mean fine in build quality as well as performance. > > I can think of one exception to the cost-cutting imperative: the Colonial > Globe, where a power transformer would have been too big and heavy for the > cramped, spherical Bakelite cabinet. Same for all tube portables, naturally > (although low cost is also desirable for a portable). > > Perhaps there are others . . . ? > Indeed there are.....Here's one: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/bapix/SLRM.htm Definitely NOT junk....Wouldn't mind having one! -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 332257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Connecting Discman/iPod to 1960s Maganvox Console Radio? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:37:09 -0600 Message-ID: <28752-44309865-1024@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1144035083.105377.321920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ipod and other makers sell small FM transmitters that plug into your ipod or cd players headphone jack that are for use in a car but work very well on about any FM radio . I have one Article: 332258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Congrats to Ron Lawrence Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:33:19 -0700 Message-ID: References: Uncle Peter wrote: > Ron's vintage ham station made CQ Magazine's > cover for April! > I love that HRO he's tuning...Bet it's plenty sensitive. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 332259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Connecting Discman/iPod to 1960s Maganvox Console Radio? Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:52:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1144006564.236409.87290@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144022358.895189.202770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> hafner@peoplepc.com wrote: > But you're absolutely right - those all looked like outputs to me, > which is what made me nervous. As well you should be.....Don't even THINK about connecting your Ipod to those lugs. As William said, the odds of frying your Ipod are better than good. Many of these hi-fi consoles were offered in several different cabinet styles, with a common chassis going into each one. There was usually a board or box that plugged into the main chassis to externalize the auxilliary inputs. Apparently, Magnavox made this an option on your unit to save a few bucks. Probably, the connectors you are looking for (hopefully standard RCA jacks) are located somewhere on the chassis. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 332260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: In Japan it's now illegal to sell used or vintage electronics Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:27:30 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1143937440.125781.260990@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1144028535.568452.315190@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1144028535.568452.315190@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >I read yesterday that this law had been repealed. > Not repealed, modified to a point. Some low power stuff won't be required to be tested for another year. Article: 332261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: strange things happen Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:16:14 -0700 Message-ID: See alt.binaries.pictures.radio -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 332262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2SRXf.740$up2.40@fed1read07> Subject: Re: I need an estimate Message-ID: <5T4Yf.10628$x97.9297@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:18:09 GMT Good catch. That's what happens when you post at 4:00AM. I have given either, depending on circumstances. Some commercial accounts won't OK a purchase order for a vague amount. So I add a fudge factor, make sure I know what it needs, or tell them it isn't an economically-wise investment to repair it. They usually end up paying more for the job than if they left it open. Most individuals understand estimates but bean-counters want concrete numbers. That's why I have cut off commercial outfits except for a couple of colleges that have been flexible. I also got tired of waiting months for the payment. Most want to do bills quarterly. I don't need that. Ray "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:2SRXf.740$up2.40@fed1read07... > Just a thought. Be careful about using the word "quote" vs the word > "estimate". To many people (including me) they imply very different > things. > > Bill Jeffrey > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Rune wrote: > >> I still won't give a quote without seeing things now. >> >> Ray Article: 332263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <2747-442FEBFE-523@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Message-ID: <1i5Yf.8485$nA3.1144@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:46:53 GMT There were many failures of resistors and capacitors in new sets in the 40s. If you have old Sams folders there were constant letters in them about new sets with bad resistors and caps, both paper and lytic. Manufacturing was inconsistent with some component brands, especially in the high-demand years just after the war. Then there were the "Black Beauties". They sounded so good in the ads... But, yes, tubes were the major problem. Even then, the sets did well except for ones that were heavily used and cooked themselves to death high on a shelf near a ceiling. I used to dread the kitchen and diner sets - heavily-used and with grease baked on everything. It wasn't unusual for these sets to run for years with the original parts and tubes and get put away still in running condition just because the owner got a newer one. 100% right on the 35W4s and especially 50C5s. I get a lot of the C5's (25C5, 35C5, 50C5) that hum or are vibration sensitive. That was a massive problem with the crappy old AV equipment that used them with mechanical stuff, like movie projectors. The vibrations made short work of the ceramic filament insulation and some tubes were built like crap in general. Remember the early Japanese tubes that would flare up like lightbulbs when first turned on? They always amazed me. I expected them to burn up but they somehow hung in there. And it seems like every set I have gotten in over the last few months needs a 35L6 or 50L6 for hum reasons. I seriously need to restock. Ray "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:2747-442FEBFE-523@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net... > From 'Rune': > >>...they were generally dependable, at >>least as dependable as transformer sets >>because the highest failure items were >>common to both - tubes, condensers, >>and resistors. > > Failure of resistors and condensers was NOT common during the expected > 'service life' of the set. Not until they were decades old would > condenser leakage and resistor drift become the routine problems.. as > witnessed by restorers of old sets. > Tubes were by far the biggest failure mode- rectifiers > and AF output (like 25Z6, 25L6) accounting for probably 90% of failures > - open heaters or occasionally H-K shorts. Then with the advent of the > 35W4 and 50C5, failure rate REALLY skyrocketed with open heaters and H-K > shorts due to the high power dissipated by those tubes' heaters. > Routine problems with resistors and condensers would > await future aficianados. > Bill(oc) > Article: 332264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143823788.755535.7230@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1143848875.146375.276330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4ZJXf.12740$cY3.8037@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Cracked 78 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:57:14 GMT Yes, a lot of records are turning up there that would have required years of searching to find just a short while ago. Estate sales often have piles of them and I have begged thrift stores here to not throw them out without putting them on the shelves. So many just want CD versions, even older folks, that these are everywhere. Things are changing a bit though. They are even making phonos with the 78 speed again. Crappy ones, yes, but it shows recognition of a market that was once gone. And eBay has everyone looking to get rich on stuff they'd have tossed a decade ago. That means availability. Price and quality are the hard parts. Ray "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:vJudnYF7lKS9ZbLZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@sigecom.net... > One more thing......over time the record will shrink, expanding the crack > if the glue doesn't hold. Once cracked, either record it on another medium > or throw it away. You can probably find another one on ebay. > B. > Article: 332265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 07:07:50 -0700 Message-ID: <2747-44312C36-636@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <1i5Yf.8485$nA3.1144@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> >From 'Rune': >There were many failures of resistors >and capacitors in new sets in the 40s. If >you have old Sams folders there were >constant letters in them about new sets >with bad resistors and caps, both paper >and lytic. Very true, and were mostly covered by warranty. But once a set made it past warranty into its expected 'service life', the great bulk of failures would most llikely be tubes, followed closely by electrolytics, which could go south at any time. *Routine* failures of resistors and paper caps wouldn't come until 'way past the 'service life', and tube failures rare. That's the point i wuz tryin' to make. oc Article: 332266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I need an estimate From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1143863321.131097.59920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:33:37 GMT In article , gizzledgeezer@comcast.net says... > > >PS: This is one of the reasons service shops charge a flat rare. > > > > Yup I quote the high end for any of them when asked... think about that radio being the worst one you ever worked on... bad wires... all the usual stuff... I tell them ... $250 ... maybe a little cheaper depending on conditions I run into working on it. PLUS any major parts that aren't included in all the stuff I always know I have to replace. So far never had anyone complain when I handed them a bill that was a bit smaller than the original quote ..... but when U say 150-250 ..... they are only hearing the 150 part ... John k9uwa ... who came back to Indiana TOO SOON! Article: 332267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: strange things happen References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:11:24 GMT Stewart Schooley wrote: > Did that store have a sign in the window saying, "The right to buy > radios is the right to be free" ? That rings a bell with "The Weapons store." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:06:32 -0700 Message-ID: <16380-44314808-468@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <1144077141.789819.235690@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> >From Peter W.: >I am sure there are many, many others. > >Not everything is crap even if it is simple >and inexpensively made. Obvious >examples include... And don't forget the Hallicrafters S-38, the little series-stringer that was many a kid's intro to an avocation in radio. oc Article: 332269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <1144077141.789819.235690@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <16380-44314808-468@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> <1144082021.141986.177240@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:03:24 -0700 I carried a Hallicrafters S-38 around with me while in the Navy -- not the most sensitive of radios -- but adequate considering the price. From areas in the Pacific - kept me in touch with home. Also I had a Silvertone AM radio back in the 60's -- it had a tuned RF amplifier stage and wow it picked up the clear channel stations all around the country in the winter months. The GE Super Radio of its time. So to answer the question IMHO NO! Perhaps the Mad Muntz TV's qualify as junk, but he sure sold a lot of them http://www.smecc.org/mad_man_muntz!.htm But to be fair -- if you could "SEE" the TV transmitter, the stripped down TV's worked after a fashion (;-) -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Article: 332270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <1144077141.789819.235690@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <16380-44314808-468@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> <1144082021.141986.177240@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1144085174.116278.308210@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 10:40:03 -0700 Huh -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Steven" wrote in message news:1144085174.116278.308210@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Ever seen RED cones on 5" speakers, CL? > Article: 332271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Fraud alert---A whole flock of Zenith Waltons on eBay right now From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:44:51 GMT In article , jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says... > > >The redirect is fairly quick. You get a quick look at the >auction page, then it's off to the false sign-in page. > >jim menning > > had to quickly hit the STOP button to get the browser to stay put so I could look at the radio .... and some fool did the buy it now on it! John Article: 332272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Burson" Subject: can an eBayer do this? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:54:53 GMT >From listing # 6619279068: Q: PLease chnage your title, the words -Beautiful, working- as it refers to an antique radio is copyrighted by me. Ebay has honored my requests for removal in the past, please change it now and avoid the problem, or I will report you. I apreciate your cooperation. Thanks. A: This will be changed as I was not aware of the coypright. I will leave off the word working. I regret the error and had no idea this was a copyright. RS If this isn't a joke the implications are staggering. Article: 332273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Korting radio STEREO= SE ? MONO =PP ? Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 18:00:34 GMT Message-ID: <443161d4.28798069@news.demon.co.uk> References: <1144083895.103293.151740@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 3 Apr 2006 10:04:55 -0700, "Savy" wrote: >I have an old German radio/phono console that I am interested in the >audio circuit for potential use (rebuild) as a guitar amp. > >The audio output is stated in the owner's manual to be 6 watt Push >pull. It has 2- EL95 pentodes in the output, a pair of back to back OTs >and is apparently driven by 1/2 of a EABC80 tube (single triode part) >while the other half of the tube (triple diode) seems to serve the >radio circuit. [snip] This is NOT a good idea. Tube radio audio stages aren't designed to be overrun heavily and you'll wreck a nice old radio to no purpose. The EL95 is completely unsuitable for use in a guitar amp even in push pull - it's a tiny 7 pin miniature tube. For a guitar amp you'll need decent output pentodes like 6L6s or EL84s and a big meaty output transformer. Best regards, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 332274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:20:56 -0400 Message-ID: <1232psbnrt1cva6@corp.supernews.com> References: Dave Burson wrote: > From listing # 6619279068: > > Q: PLease chnage your title, the words -Beautiful, working- as it > refers to an antique radio is copyrighted by me. Ebay has honored my > requests for removal in the past, please change it now and avoid the > problem, or I will report you. I apreciate your cooperation. Thanks. > > A: This will be changed as I was not aware of the coypright. I will > leave off the word working. I regret the error and had no idea this was a > copyright. RS > > > > If this isn't a joke the implications are staggering. > > April 1st of 2006 is turning out to yield a banner harvest. -Bill Article: 332275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: New Restoration Now on Forum and Binaries Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 14:56:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1232ru4mq67qa51@corp.supernews.com> See "Philco 116 Shouldered".... John H. Article: 332276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 18:57:52 GMT "Dave Burson" wrote in message news:NjdYf.11344$tN3.2575@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > From listing # 6619279068: > > Q: PLease chnage your title, the words -Beautiful, working- as it refers to an > antique radio is copyrighted by me. Ebay has honored my requests for removal in the > past, please change it now and avoid the problem, or I will report you. I apreciate > your cooperation. Thanks. > > A: This will be changed as I was not aware of the coypright. I will leave off > the word working. I regret the error and had no idea this was a copyright. RS > > > > If this isn't a joke the implications are staggering. > I believe you will find this "Q:" to be from seller igolioto. His eBay store is named "Beautiful working bakelite radios". I doubt that just the two words separated by a comma would be a copyright issue. jim menning Article: 332277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: New Restoration Now on Forum Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:02:21 -0400 Message-ID: <1232s9vimqngf0d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1232ru4mq67qa51@corp.supernews.com> At Forum- http://antiqueradios.com/forums/Forum13/HTML/010754.html John H. Article: 332278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Mutch Subject: Re: Cracked 78 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:35:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1143823788.755535.7230@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8p-dnT0TfZd7ELDZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@athenet.net> george conklin wrote: > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > news:e0k374$ft4$1@reader1.panix.com... > >>In <8p-dnT0TfZd7ELDZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@athenet.net> philo >> writes: >> >> >>>As a matter of fact...you should record *all* your valuable 78's and >>>only play recordings of them... >>>but keep plenty of non-valuable 78's around for playing on your vintage >>>equipment! >> >> Here's a random question: How many plays were expected from a shellac >>78 before even grandma would start to wince? Assuming reasonable care, >>and a new needle each and every play. I'd guess the design lifetime >>would've been at least 100 plays? I fully understand this question is >>most likely impossible to answer with any meaningful precision, but >>I just had to ask anyway. >> >>(Right now Benny Goodman's "Jersey Bounce" and The Revolting Cock's >>"Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" are competing for aural space in my brain. >>I better go listen to something before Revco beats up Benny...) >> > > That rate of wearing out a record would be with a heavy head and a steel > needle. > With a light pickup, you could get a lot of plays out of a 78. Of course, > Edison's diamond discs were good for about 3,000 plays with a heavy head. > > At the AWA museum in Bloomfield NY last year they had a demo of a late '40's vintage Stomber-Carlson changer with a GE variable reluctance cart tracking at 3.3 grams. The quality of sound was astonishingly good, and I'll bet that rig with that low tracking force and a good diamond stylus would make hundreds of playbacks before you heard a difference. Article: 332279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> <1144067968.257042.248570@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144091829.977814.107130@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 19:38:19 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1144091829.977814.107130@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > the whole concept that it is improper to say anything > negative about the meet has go to end. i am not going to win this > argument no matter what. i concede. > It's a shame for you and John to get trampled on for expressing your honest opinions. The meet as far as you were concerned was a disaster. There is nothing wrong or unfair in stating that. jim menning Article: 332280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:39:00 -0400 I'd report him to ebay for making that threat. Heck, then I'll copyright "vintage, deco, rare," and "radio" while I'm at it. Pete "Dave Burson" wrote in message news:NjdYf.11344$tN3.2575@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > From listing # 6619279068: > > Q: PLease chnage your title, the words -Beautiful, working- as it > refers to an antique radio is copyrighted by me. Ebay has honored my > requests for removal in the past, please change it now and avoid the > problem, or I will report you. I apreciate your cooperation. Thanks. > > A: This will be changed as I was not aware of the coypright. I will > leave off the word working. I regret the error and had no idea this was a > copyright. RS > > > > If this isn't a joke the implications are staggering. > > Article: 332281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: strange things happen References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:33:56 -0400 Was Alice there? Ken Jim Mueller wrote: > See alt.binaries.pictures.radio Article: 332282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: 450 v. or 160 v? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:43:31 -0400 Use the voltage required by the circuit. If the block contains a B+ bypass cap, use the 400V. If the cap is in the audio or avc, a 200V will do. The cap from output tube plate to gnd should be 600V.Ken Blacksmith wrote: > Never mind. I can't wait for an answer. I've decided to go witht he > 450v since Phil's Repair Bench lists a bunch, not mine of course, and > most of them are at 400v. > > On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:36:15 -0400, Blacksmith > wrote: > > >>I'm working on a Philco 37-602 that has those wax filled blocks with >>the capacitors built into them. I'm in the process of putting new >>filter caps in, (not in the blocks, but in the chassis), and I >>remember when I did the Philco console and melted out all 13 blocks I >>had to use 450 v filter caps. >> >>This radio uses similar tar blocks, and the schematic doesn't specify >>the votage for the caps. Can I use 160v. caps in this one? >> >>Was the reason for the higher voltage caps in the console because it >>used a transformer? >>Blacksmith >>wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom > > > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 332283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Korting radio STEREO= SE ? MONO =PP ? Message-ID: References: <1144083895.103293.151740@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <443161d4.28798069@news.demon.co.uk> <1144089351.209503.165920@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1144090221.420872.32100@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1144092244.559805.304120@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144094331.527767.316650@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:14:21 GMT On 3 Apr 2006 12:58:51 -0700, "Savy" wrote: >And before I leave you guys... My origional question was weather this >radio is in fact using two single ended OTs based on my discription and >being that those on this forum would be most familiar with these >particular circuits.... > >Just a curiosity y'all. >savy I recall that many years ago I worked on a number of German radios (They may have been Kortings, as that was one of the brands that my employer was the agent for) that had a stereo/mono setup as you describe. The circuit had a push-pull output transformer and a single ended transformer. When in mono, the push-pull transformer was used, while stereo used the single-ended transformer and half of the push-Pull one. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 332284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 450 v. or 160 v? Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:49:04 -0400 Message-ID: <123362lccb8cq0b@corp.supernews.com> References: Blacksmith wrote: > Ken, > I guess I wasn't clear, mentioning the blocks. It's the filter caps > I'm considering. > > Anyway, it doesn't matter now as I've already squeezed the larger 450v > caps into the tiny pocket under the old filter cap can. > > Thanks Sri to be late :( 160vdc electrolytics would have been fine. -Bill Article: 332285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" Subject: How about an antique light bulb Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:12:05 -0700 Burning since since 1901 !!!!! URL: http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/time_machine/centennial_lightbulb.html Better still -- check up on the old bulb -- live videocam -- URL: http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm A kicker was: Unlike the bulb, the first video camera had a limited life of about 3 years. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Article: 332286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? Message-ID: <0wiYf.39567$jf2.36469@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:49:16 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:QeeYf.39376$Eg2.38236@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > I believe you will find this "Q:" to be from seller igolioto. His eBay > store is named "Beautiful working bakelite radios". I doubt that just the > two words separated by a comma would be a copyright issue. > > jim menning Is there a way to tell for sure if he's copyrighted the phrase? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 332287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Is this TransOceanic R520/URR authentic? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:58:32 GMT Hi Phil, Yes, that radio is authentic, it has the original ID tag with serial number on it, 2 of the 4 power plug adapters (these are very difficult to find, most sets are missing these), and the D cell battery adapter. It is hard to tell if the knobs are original, they should be dark brown, but look like black in the picture. It also appears that the filter can on the chassis may have been replaced. Overall, a very nice radio. If he is selling, and you're not interested, please forward my e-mail address to him. Also Phil, if you are ever up in Canada, (Surrey, BC,) and want to see one of these, feel free to drop me a note and stop by, I have both military models. PS: Check out my website, it is almost completely dedicated to the R-520. www.thisoldradio.com Phil Nelson wrote: > Never having seen one in the flesh, I can't say. > > Pictures posted in alt.binaries.pictures.radio. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 332288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> <1144067968.257042.248570@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144091829.977814.107130@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144103768.745952.148080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:56:18 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1144103768.745952.148080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > ron, i know it is difficult for you to comprehend, but this isn't > personal. I'm 53 years old, I've worked on this antique radio event for more than half of my life, DAMN RIGHT I TAKE IT PERSONAL. You come in and spend 1 1/2 hours and here and then complain that I let it RAIN. There is no way that attempting to move the flea market inside on Friday would have been ANYTHING but a disaster. A few folks might have gone inside but most would have stayed put in the parking lot. If it had been pouring down rain, we would have moved inside. I talked to the good people with the Sheraton Thursday morning and they said if it was a rain out they would fill the lobby with tables if necessary. It also has NOTHING to do with being a club member, or even taking an active role in the event, what it does have to do with is being supportive of all the effort that a lot of good people put into making an event of this size happen. In all the time that I've know you crawled on the earth all I've ever heard or read from you concerning our events was complaining about something. Have a nice day. The opinions stated here are MINE and MINE alone. Ron Lawrence Article: 332289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4431BC4E.2FCC1225@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? References: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:22:38 -0400 How pathetic, if it is copyrighted he must have some legal documents stating so... Sal Dave Burson wrote: > From listing # 6619279068: > > Q: PLease chnage your title, the words -Beautiful, working- as it > refers to an antique radio is copyrighted by me. Ebay has honored my > requests for removal in the past, please change it now and avoid the > problem, or I will report you. I apreciate your cooperation. Thanks. > > A: This will be changed as I was not aware of the coypright. I will > leave off the word working. I regret the error and had no idea this was a > copyright. RS > > If this isn't a joke the implications are staggering. Article: 332290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: How about an antique light bulb Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:39:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: philo wrote: > On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:12:05 -0700, Caveat Lector wrote: > > > Burning since since 1901 !!!!! > > URL: > > http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/time_machine/centennial_lightbulb.html > > > > Better still -- check up on the old bulb -- live videocam -- URL: > > http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm > > > > A kicker was: Unlike the bulb, the first video camera had a limited life of > > about 3 years. > > > Wow!!! that thing is still going??? > > I remember reading about it when I was a kid...maybe around 1964 or so... > > I'm sure there will be a regulation coming out pretty soon making them > replace it with one of those fluorescent long life "bulbs" In our elevators they was replacing halogen lamps with flurorescent lamps, then replacing fluorecent lamps with LED lamps, than ... LED lamps with ... big surprise ... halogen lamps. sounds like stopping the clock to loan time ;-) Kind Regards Georg Article: 332291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1144077141.789819.235690@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:59:59 GMT > I'll concede that TOs qualify as "high-end AA5s" (hey, I own more than a > dozen :-). I had excluded portables by definition, since the motive for > excluding a power transformer in a portable is obvious. > > Your comment about the 46-420 is interesting. I've had one for about > fifteen years -- it's sitting on a shelf in this room -- but never got > around to restoring the electronics. Now I have a reason to drag it out to > the workshop! > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios In the same vein of the TOs, is the Strato-Worlds. They are fine perfoming sets. My Dad had a Motorola table model AM/FM radio in the mid sixties, sure wish I could remember the model number. It had a very unusual FM tuning unit, it looked like a spiral of heavy gauge wire, and the adjustment arm followed the spiral inward as you tuned to the upper part of the band. I had to clean the dust out of the tuner periodically, it would get noisy like a dirty pot when you tuned it. Never remembered having to do anything else to it, that thing sounded great for years and years. Regards, Tom Article: 332292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 450 v. or 160 v? Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:21:52 -0400 Message-ID: <1233ihkb0bq4q08@corp.supernews.com> References: <123362lccb8cq0b@corp.supernews.com> Blacksmith wrote: > > What indicates it? 115 volts dc out of the rectifier. > Why did the Philco console need 450v? Transformer? See the DC voltage readings for the set. Transformer alone isn't a good indication because the DC voltage could be anywhere from 100 to 500 with a transformer. Conversely, lack of a transformer doesn't guarantee low voltage since there are some sets with voltage doubler circuits. -Bill Article: 332293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> <1144067968.257042.248570@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144091829.977814.107130@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144103768.745952.148080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 01:16:56 GMT And I'm through with this mess. It's time to start planning next years show. Mark your calendars now for March 22-23-24, 2007 for the 31st "Spring Meet in the Carolinas". I hope to see EVERYONE there. Ron Lawrence, CC-AWA President and Conference Chairman. www.cc-awa.org Article: 332294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:41:17 -0400 Message-ID: <1233jlv3idfvnb4@corp.supernews.com> References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> <1144067968.257042.248570@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144091829.977814.107130@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144103768.745952.148080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144113059.647649.51320@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1144113059.647649.51320@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > I personally have no problem with > hitting up the people who are only there for the best deals at the > market Because they need to be PUNISHED for not having time for the whole three days. Retired=rewarded, working stiff=slap in face. At Rochester, the seminars are always lightly attended and the flea busy (or was until they started killing that event off) yet the flea is a barely tolerated distraction. IMHO that's why it's dying among other rigid intolerant reasons. Essentially busy people help subsidize the other two days of the Conference to punish them for failing to take it seriously enough. I posted a report about what happened to me and because I had the NERVE to not have a good time I and eddie have been run over the coals. A real warm Southern welcome you guys give newcomers. BE WARNED- never admit you are going to a "Conference" and only attending the flea. Slip away quietly if you have to, but TELL NO ONE. John H. Article: 332295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4431D3F6.F24E85D8@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? References: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:03:34 -0400 Steven, To tell you the truth, the seller should do the complaining, If I had a radio for sale on ebay and I heard this garbage I would complain too plus I want to see some real legal documents before I would reword my auction. Sal Steven wrote: > He's been reported, thank you, now you do it too, but the seller is > still dismayed and not in a fighting mood I have gathered. This is > garbage. Article: 332296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: Radio Extravaganza Lansing Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 02:37:40 GMT I'll try to have it up by the end of the week. We have a new server and there are some configuration issues I have to deal with before I can publish new pages. "Bill Cohn" wrote in message news:CvCdneSHjOXS3azZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > There does not seem to be any information about Extravaganza on the MAARC > web site yet. Is this an oversite? This event is in July and approaching > fast. Where is the information. Maybe I missed something. The info for > Radiofest in Bollingbrook is on the ARCI website and that event is a month > later. > > Just looking for info... > > Regards, > > N9MHT - Bill Cohn Article: 332297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: 450 v. or 160 v? Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:10:50 -0400 Message-ID: <1233otse0ulai42@corp.supernews.com> References: <123362lccb8cq0b@corp.supernews.com> "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:ajf3321udhna4kb04llu9a12tc4ocpskm8@4ax.com... > What indicates it? > Why did the Philco console need 450v? Transformer? One looks at the Voltage Chart and sees what the B+ on the output tube plate is, if its like350 volts you need the 450 volt cap. Transformer/ no transformer is a bit simplified. SOME transformer sets might get away with 350 volt filters, with a low enough B+. John H. Article: 332298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: can an eBayer do this? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 03:24:38 GMT In article , radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM says... > > seller was appreciative of several of the newsgroup that supported his use of the words and no changes are intended in the auction. Thats a nice little radio John k9uwa Article: 332299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> <1144067968.257042.248570@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144091829.977814.107130@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144103768.745952.148080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144113059.647649.51320@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1233jlv3idfvnb4@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 22:30:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4431e2e8$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:1233jlv3idfvnb4@corp.supernews.com... > Because they need to be PUNISHED for not having time for the whole three > days. That's not quite was I was trying to say.......I suspect you had a run-in with somebody on this topic before. It's not about punishing people. It's about the fact that you aren't the only one in this particular situation, and giving people who just want to go to the flea market a cut admission rate means less income for the show as a whole. That could kill the economic viability of the entire event, and then who is being served at all? paul Article: 332300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Replacing power resistor in RCA 630TS TV Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:06:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1143644523.322870.62010@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:xNWdnY5fholbRKzZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> How is your restoration going so far? > > And today . . . our first picture. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/RCA630TS21.jpg > > Lots more work to do, but this moment is always fun. > > Phil Nelson In a word, AWESOME. Wish I could get into a project like that, but could never get something like that shipped here. Article: 332301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4431F41F.D0CFC28B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 References: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> <122th1bhs922q89@corp.supernews.com> <94mdnbii4o9cSrPZRVn-gg@comcast.com> <122tp2uhl8jj82e@corp.supernews.com> <1143988961.174467.230060@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <122vr12an57r052@corp.supernews.com> <1144067968.257042.248570@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1144091829.977814.107130@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1144103768.745952.148080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: T