Article: 333260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444DB277.9588232F@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10> <33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:24:57 GMT Rob Mills wrote: > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > >>> Didn't Zenith and Heathkit team up in their later years?<<< > > I've seen the name Heath/Zenith on motion sensing lights sold by Home Depot > just recently. RM~ The last ones I saw simply said Zenith. They sold Heathkit a few years ago. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444DB2E2.4085F6EE@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:26:44 GMT Steven wrote: > > I DID. Please quit yelling now. We had this happen a couple years ago > too, and I noted that then also. > > Nobody is the moron you think I am. > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > To the poster: > > > > > > The way Google compiles these things, I could hope you are not "Cin" in > > > alt.support.grief and we don't think our Bill could be a regular poster > > > to alt.sex.passwords (sic), and no I didn't look. Since we already have > > > an existing Bill Turner, who is QUITE well known, and you seem to be a > > > concern to him (and since you've been here before as I recall), could > > > you think about adopting a different tag at the least? > > > > > > Bill has had enough problems lately. > > > > > > Look at the headers, dumbass. THIS Bill Turner is a regular poster on > > the news:rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors newsgroup so why should he have > > to change his name to please your paranoid little mind? You would have > > seen that the thread is cross posted to three newsgroups, if you had > > bothered to look. > > > > > > -- > > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > > prove it. > > Member of DAV #85. > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida So, now you claim that you knew the other Bill turner was a regular on one of the cross posted group and yo still wanted him to change his name? What a ****** liar. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Turner Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:29:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1145904838.636668.111860@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <444d2d3e_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1145916751.703472.100970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <444D7D6E.67DA4AD3@earthlink.net> ORIGINAL MESSAGE: On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:38:39 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > Look at the headers, dumbass. THIS Bill Turner is a regular poster on >the news:rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors newsgroup so why should he have >to change his name to please your paranoid little mind? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** Be careful about your Bill Turners. There are at least two of us. When I post to a ham radio group I always use my callsign, like below. And I haven't posted to boatanchors for a long time, if ever. Bill, W6WRT Article: 333263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444DB59E.F6CC5F6A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1145904838.636668.111860@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <444d2d3e_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1145916751.703472.100970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <444D7D6E.67DA4AD3@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:38:25 GMT Bill Turner wrote: > > ORIGINAL MESSAGE: > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:38:39 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > wrote: > > > Look at the headers, dumbass. THIS Bill Turner is a regular poster on > >the news:rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors newsgroup so why should he have > >to change his name to please your paranoid little mind? > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > Be careful about your Bill Turners. There are at least two of us. When > I post to a ham radio group I always use my callsign, like below. And > I haven't posted to boatanchors for a long time, if ever. > > Bill, W6WRT Bill, I have seen your post on several of the rec.radio.amateur newsgroups over the past year, always with your call sign. Your writing style is very different, and you don't use all caps like the other Bill. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444DB7A4.C9CBB92@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:47:02 GMT Steven wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > I DID. Please quit yelling now. We had this happen a couple years ago > > > too, and I noted that then also. > > > > > > Nobody is the moron you think I am. > > > > > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > > > > > To the poster: > > > > > > > > > > The way Google compiles these things, I could hope you are not "Cin" in > > > > > alt.support.grief and we don't think our Bill could be a regular poster > > > > > to alt.sex.passwords (sic), and no I didn't look. Since we already have > > > > > an existing Bill Turner, who is QUITE well known, and you seem to be a > > > > > concern to him (and since you've been here before as I recall), could > > > > > you think about adopting a different tag at the least? > > > > > > > > > > Bill has had enough problems lately. > > > > > > > > > > > > Look at the headers, dumbass. THIS Bill Turner is a regular poster on > > > > the news:rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors newsgroup so why should he have > > > > to change his name to please your paranoid little mind? You would have > > > > seen that the thread is cross posted to three newsgroups, if you had > > > > bothered to look. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > > > > prove it. > > > > Member of DAV #85. > > > > > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > > > Central Florida > > > > > > So, now you claim that you knew the other Bill turner was a regular > > on one of the cross posted group and yo still wanted him to change his > > name? What a ****** liar. > > Shut up! This was over two years ago and HERE. Just because you're a > newsgroup whore and on everything in sight... WHAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO?????? You keep saying that, but I have no idea what in the hell you are blathering on about, as usual. No little piss ant like you is going to call me names, then tell me to shut up. Whore? You've lived on welfare you whole useless life, and now you have the gall to call people names? Go away, Skippy. You're not wanted, you're not welcome. Get it? Go away. You are the sickest joke on Usenet, and you are back to your old tricks that got you thrown off your last ISP. Keep it up and the complaints will pour in from the same people that got your plug pulled the last time. The woman you harassed last year is still pissed at you. I just fixed her computer, and I think I will give her your new e-mail address so she can tell you off, again. She still thinks that you are some sort of a butch lesbian from the way you talked to her on the telephone. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:56:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 24 Apr 2006 18:19:53 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >if it wasn't for the soundstage and detail advantage of tube amps, >there's no reason to listen to tubes ! Anyone not yet convinced that Charlie Nudo is an idiot, please say aye. Article: 333266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:58:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <124r1idhi5fgbd2@corp.supernews.com> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:15:40 -0400, "Hagstar" wrote: > >"CAINE" wrote in message >news:1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> >> The flip side is, a P-P amp will have less detail, and not a vivid a >> soundstage. >> > >Also the pacing may be affected, like the way acoustic coupling can affect >the filament supports in non-Western Electric triodes (or NOWET's) producing >a hideous cacophony of discordant sounds. > >Much of the pacing degradation can be cured by soaking the tube bases in >Holy Water for several weeks followed by Deep Cryogenic Sonic Molecular >Realignment. Come, come now! We all know that DCSMR can be neatly and easily cured by the average audiophool by sitting his equipment on a set of four granite cones...only $599 from Audio Advisor. Get yours today! Pick up some "skin effect deoxygenized bifilar braided shield interconnect cable" while you're there and save a bundle! Article: 333267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444DB9CF.7E5FC42F@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:56:18 GMT Steven wrote: > > I don't exactly exist for this retarded box and impotent TV mess you > know as a computer. It helps me find parts though. It does? Then PLEASE find yourself a working brain. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FM Interference Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:03:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145896258.266283.139980@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444d6dc5$0$3687$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:30:58 -0400, "clfe" wrote: >And >yes, the "tower lighting" alone brings hefty fines. But things such as >station records not up to par were fetching a few grand. FCC field offices have been a little touchy about tower visibility since the KFI "big stick" went down in La Mirada a couple of years ago. So far though, no changes to requirements by either them or the FAA have taken place. FCC also runs hot and cold, depending on the climate (political) on station logs and records. Ask some of the managers of the "old" AT&T, who for years said, "We're AT&T...we don't need to keep transmitter logs, really." They didn't feel like filing construction permits timely either. I remember when the bill showed up for close to $350K in fines...and those were only the ones they'd gotten in the last two months for they presented the first citations. Article: 333269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444DC590.18D8F541@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FM Interference References: <1145896258.266283.139980@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444d6dc5$0$3687$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:46:27 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:30:58 -0400, "clfe" > wrote: > > >And > >yes, the "tower lighting" alone brings hefty fines. But things such as > >station records not up to par were fetching a few grand. > > FCC field offices have been a little touchy about tower visibility > since the KFI "big stick" went down in La Mirada a couple of years > ago. So far though, no changes to requirements by either them or the > FAA have taken place. FCC also runs hot and cold, depending on the > climate (political) on station logs and records. Ask some of the > managers of the "old" AT&T, who for years said, "We're AT&T...we don't > need to keep transmitter logs, really." They didn't feel like filing > construction permits timely either. I remember when the bill showed > up for close to $350K in fines...and those were only the ones they'd > gotten in the last two months for they presented the first citations. I remember the FCC and FAA demanding remote monitoring of any tower lights without a local operator at the transmitter back in 1988. We had two weeks to submit the information on what make and model of monitoring equipment we were using, or complete details of anything built in house. We didn't have anything so i designed and built a system that night, installed it the next morning, and mailed out the information that afternoon. 1: A current transformer to monitor lamp current. Free. was found at the transmitter site. 2: A 1024 Hz sine wave derived from a crystal reference that was gated by the lamp current and fed to a spare audio channel on the STL between the two tower sites. Free: built from my junk box. 3: A 567 tone decoder to detect the audio signal. $2.95 for a plastic project box. 4: A led mounted right beside the master monitor at the new tower site. It was on all day long, and tuned off as the side beacons flashed. Free, from my junk box. 5 We got a letter back from the FCC approving the monitoring system Priceless! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: 6F6G vs. 6K6G/GT Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:16:11 -0400 Message-ID: <124s4od1662de98@corp.supernews.com> References: http://cgi.ebay.com/6K6-G-RCA-Wards-radio-ouput-tubes-Excellent-NR_W0QQitemZ9710284128QQcategoryZ67816 Article: 333271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10> <33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <444D7E20.301ECD56@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:17:48 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Zenith bought Heathkit to become "established" in the personal > computer business to bid on a number of computer contracts with the US > military. I had the news clipping somewhere from a trade journal, but I > haven't seen it in some time. ...and IIRC, they ultimately sunk Heathkit due to neglect of the non-computer part of Heath. Article: 333272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Hallicrafters R-12 Floor Model Speaker References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:37:30 GMT Ed wrote: > Does anyone know what type of paint was used for it, I am guessing > laquer but not sure. No need to guess...just wet a cotton swab with lacquer thinner and rub the surface of the paint in question in an out of the way place. If the paint comes off, it's lacquer; if not, probably oil based/enamel. Article: 333273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! References: <124r0og4esejlcb@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:39:55 GMT Hagstar wrote: > Slit the area, inject or shove yellow glue beneath, iron. > > John H. John, I'm a bit confused here...if by "yellow glue" you mean 'Carpenter's Glue' (tm) (also known as aliphatic resin glue), what does the heat from the iron do (if anything)? Speed up the setting process? It would seem that yellow glue is fairly "wet" (has a lot of water content) and that you would have to keep the iron on for a fairly long time, maybe to the point of burning the veneer, before it would have any effect on the drying process. (I have heard of using an iron for traditional veneer/contact cement, but that's completely different chemistry). Article: 333274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: 59 T-Bird -- won't receive above 1500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:19 GMT I've got one here that, before spending more time on it, I want to ask about -- anyone have ideas? This radio is a 94MS, Motorola for a 59 Thunderbird. The radio appears in very good shape, although it has obviously been in the elements for awhile. The dial pointer was faded to near white; there was considerable dirt that I cleaned out -- yet the dial glass, chrome pushbuttons, and even the metal case are in excellent shape. The problem? Poor reception, and intermittent -- fixed by replacing the output IF and two weak tubes. Right now everything's fine, except the radio goes dead above 1500 kHz. Local AM 1450 comes in fine, as does a weak station at 1480. Above that, dead. I found that I can bring in reception above 1500 by adjusting the antenna trimmer. Righty-tighty, giving it more capacitance brings the reception back. However if I move the dial back to 1480, I have to reset the trimmer. The trimmer peaks at about the same setting for anywhere from 540-1450, with a slight tightening for 1480, and 1/4 to 1/2 turn for anything above that. The tuning slug appears normal, and I even checked it, just to verify that it hasn't moved fully away from the coil at 1500. It measures in the neighborhood of 300uH, and indeed moves up and down continuously with dial movement -- including above 1500. After some head-scratching, the only thing I can think of is that maybe the fixed RF caps (mica) might somehow be out of line. Tubes have been swapped with no change. Any suggestions? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 333275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1AW2g.71174$Jd.36004@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: Who was R.P.C., Chicago? Message-ID: <82q3g.6583$k.5847@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:07:00 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:e2k9t8$3bg$1@reader1.panix.com... > In "jim menning" > writes: > >>http://www.eyetubes.com/fearnola01.htm > > Just as I feared: not very fear-inspiring. :) > > In all seriousness, that's one strange name. Makes you wonder what > they were thinking. Unless, perhaps, the family name was "Fearn". > > >From an older thread over at the radio forum: "Fearnola was sold by Cussins & Fearn, a large hardware co. in Columbus, OH. I don't know if they actually made the sets, but the brand goes back to the mid-20s." http://tinyurl.com/zsycn An old advertising reference: http://tinyurl.com/f3y4r Amazing what a little "Google-ing" will uncover! ;o) jim menning Article: 333276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444E2CF2.71D8A117@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: <444bb31e_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <6_e3g.15396$NG.10809@dukeread10> <33f3g.3344$1J4.604@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <444D7E20.301ECD56@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:07:30 GMT Carter-K8VT wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > Zenith bought Heathkit to become "established" in the personal > > computer business to bid on a number of computer contracts with the US > > military. I had the news clipping somewhere from a trade journal, but I > > haven't seen it in some time. > > ...and IIRC, they ultimately sunk Heathkit due to neglect of the > non-computer part of Heath. Sure, all they wanted was a place to sell lots of their monitor assemblies and complete monitors, as well as tap into government contracts. Have you ever opened one of their TEMPEST rated CGA or VGA monitors? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: 59 T-Bird -- won't receive above 1500 References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:26:20 -0500 Gary Tayman wrote: > > I found that I can bring in reception above 1500 by adjusting the antenna > trimmer. Righty-tighty, giving it more capacitance brings the reception > back. However if I move the dial back to 1480, I have to reset the trimmer. > The trimmer peaks at about the same setting for anywhere from 540-1450, with > a slight tightening for 1480, and 1/4 to 1/2 turn for anything above that. > I don't have a fix or explanation for your issue; but a point of interest, and a question for the group: doesn't tightening the trimmer (ie decreasing the gap) *lower* capacitance , as opposed to increasing it? I wouldn't mention it, except that it might make a difference in your decision tree concerning symptoms/fixes...and personal curiosity. Perhaps I have a faulty understanding of the operation of this component. Article: 333278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:00:03 -0500 Message-ID: <20253-444E3973-971@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1145877550.606187.179290@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Ever notice before that us mens shirts have the buttons on the right hand (Push) side and wimmins shirts have the buttons on the left hand (Pull) side? I once accidently bought a wimmins shirt for two dallars (I smoke like a choo choo Train,Buku cigarette burn holes) at the Goodwill store.Never again! cuhulin Article: 333279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:08:26 -0500 Message-ID: <20253-444E3B6A-972@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: Doggy,she needs to put me dog collar on and hook up the dog leash (www.flexiusa.com the one with the 26 foot long line,for big dogs,but she is a little dog www.cattledog.com and she pulls like a Tractor) and take me out in the front yard for whatever.She is slurpin out me right ear again and pawin (outch,Blueberry,that hurts) me shoulder again. cuhulin Article: 333280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:19:27 -0700 Message-ID: <44fs421cho82i0r61ehqimllu6kq2fcajq@4ax.com> References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <08ednXTIcLj4ldPZRVn-gQ@comcast.com> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:31:55 -0700, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >> if it wasn't for the soundstage and detail advantage >> of tube amps, there's no reason to listen to tubes! > >I'm not defending his philosophical point of view. However, the large >amounts of even-order harmonic distortion generated by SE amps might -- by >increasing waveform asymmetry -- increase apparent detail and enhance >imaging (by exaggerating interaural differences). In short, Charlie Nudo "doesn't know what he doesn't know." Addition of harmonic or inharmonic content in a music reproduction chain is not acceptable for fidelity...period. The "tubeheads" just don't get this. In a music "producer," such as electric organs, guitars, etc., harmonic AND inharmonic addition in the amplification chain is not only part and parcel of the instrument's tonal formant, but is considered desireable if it yields a wanted sound effect. Musical tonal production has nothing whatever to do with fidelity, which is the goal of a high fidelity system. The "detail" he refers to are probablby harmonic artifacts that he cannot hear with a good amplifier, and he mistakenly, through ignorance, thinks the he's hearing more of the original performance as recorded, when this is patently false. The "soundstage" thing he refers to is simply a buzzword he picked up off of some audiophool site, and he has no idea what it really means. "Colorless" amps are best, no doubt, and low distortion speaker systems are a must, but are tough to find. The lowest distortion (in terms of harmonic and inharmonic distortion products) in the bass range is still Paul Klipsch's 1940 Klipschorn design, although many direct radiator composite coned systems have come close. Example of a good, cheap "colorless" amp: Dave Hafler's DH-seires MOSFETs....great amplification without the hype and price. Article: 333281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:20:18 -0700 Message-ID: <8gfs42ts6kgktp8idn3vp05aj2afd619tb@4ax.com> References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <08ednXTIcLj4ldPZRVn-gQ@comcast.com> <1145965638.594441.187230@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 04:47:18 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >that's exactly what an SE amp does- it jazzes up the low end and high >end of the audio spectrum- while leaving the midrange relatively >untouched You mean "tears up." Again, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, aka 66fourdoor on eBay, exposes his stupidity for all to see. >basically it does what a loudness switch on a SS amp does, or what an >EQ does with a "smile" setting applied- tone controls aren't needed >with a good SE tube amp BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Article: 333282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:20:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <08ednXTIcLj4ldPZRVn-gQ@comcast.com> <1145966044.477361.134170@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1145967058.463495.312340@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 05:10:58 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >bad joke Yes, you are a bad joke, Noodles. Go shoot yourself. Article: 333283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1AW2g.71174$Jd.36004@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <82q3g.6583$k.5847@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1145978934.427059.308860@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Who was R.P.C., Chicago? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:36:44 GMT "radioguy57" wrote in message news:1145978934.427059.308860@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Jim, > > Amazing! I was just going to post that I have a Fearnola console radio > (mine was made by Wells-Gardenr according to the W.G.on the label) when > I see you posted a link to the forum discussion in which I mentioned > having just received that radio! That alone tells me there is not much > information about Fearnola radios available on the internet. I don't ever recall seeing a Fearnola radio in person, but perhaps they are more common near Columbus, Ohio where they were originally sold. If only that particular hardware business sold them, it's doubtful many traveled very far from home. jim menning Article: 333284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 59 T-Bird -- won't receive above 1500 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:37:17 -0700 Message-ID: <25gs42tl4m5rkislurm9m5oc8gj31ar5k5@4ax.com> References: On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:55:19 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >This radio is a 94MS, Motorola for a 59 Thunderbird. Good front end, as I remember them. >The radio appears in >very good shape, although it has obviously been in the elements for awhile. >The dial pointer was faded to near white; there was considerable dirt that I >cleaned out -- yet the dial glass, chrome pushbuttons, and even the metal >case are in excellent shape. > >The problem? Poor reception, and intermittent -- fixed by replacing the >output IF and two weak tubes. Right now everything's fine, except the radio >goes dead above 1500 kHz. Local AM 1450 comes in fine, as does a weak >station at 1480. Above that, dead. > >I found that I can bring in reception above 1500 by adjusting the antenna >trimmer. Righty-tighty, giving it more capacitance brings the reception >back. However if I move the dial back to 1480, I have to reset the trimmer. >The trimmer peaks at about the same setting for anywhere from 540-1450, with >a slight tightening for 1480, and 1/4 to 1/2 turn for anything above that. I've seen this before on a number of radios, and it usually wound up being an antenna load problem. I don't know what you use for a whip on your bench, but it seems at times that the small ground plane provided on such a stick causes Q problems at the top end of the MW band...making the trimmer a little too selective. I bet if you try it in a real car, the problem will go away. I line up with an RF gen and a dummy antenna C load, using shunt/series 30 pF micas in line with the gennie, and then use a garden variety automotive whip mounted on a 2' steel ground plane to check off-air performance. All goes well until it's time to reinstall into the vehicle, and resetting the trimmer is always necessary. I'd line it up for the rest of the band, have the owner reinstall it and check. The top end null may be gone when the ground plane of the whole car is in play. Article: 333285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:37:58 -0700 Message-ID: <4igs42hvj7hsp783qvufpb1c8u3nmtth16@4ax.com> References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <124r1idhi5fgbd2@corp.supernews.com> <1145965682.633025.288080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 04:48:02 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >a little Holy Water can go a long way ! > >A.M.D. ...especially with a deluded freak like you, Noodles. Article: 333286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:41:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145904838.636668.111860@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <444d2d3e_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1145916751.703472.100970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <444D7D6E.67DA4AD3@earthlink.net> <444DB59E.F6CC5F6A@earthlink.net> <1145944196.695549.226950@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444DB9CF.7E5FC42F@earthlink.net> <1145951909.906985.82960@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <444E3F36.BBBD7F92@earthlink.net> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:25:27 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >Steven wrote: >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> > Steven wrote: >> > > >> > > I don't exactly exist for this retarded box and impotent TV mess you >> > > know as a computer. It helps me find parts though. >> > >> > >> > It does? Then PLEASE find yourself a working brain. >> >> I'm not sending it to you... > > > Hauling coal to Newcastle? Steven and Charlie Nudo are two peas in a very, very rotten pod. Article: 333287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1145861838.045018.238640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <85-dnbVLV-u6utDZ4p2dnA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: RCA 7T tombstone chassis bolts...what size? Message-ID: <2Gr3g.14211$4L1.9075@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:57:50 GMT Mark, If you can get them at your average hardware store then they must be a standard thread, 20 or 28 pitch for the 1/4" bolt, 24 or 32 pitch for the #10 and 24 or 28 pitch for a #12. A #12 bolt is a bit of an oddity anyway, most hardware stores go from #10 to 1/4" Perhaps that is why the original poster was having trouble finding what he needed. Larry Fowkes Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:85-dnbVLV-u6utDZ4p2dnA@comcast.com... > Larry, RCA has nicely threaded bushings, you dont want to rethread those! > I dont recall what these are but they are either #12 or 1/4" and you can > easily get the right ones at the hardware... I usually go there and get a > LOT of sizes and lengths for chassis mounting, including the odd #12 self > tapping ones for Philco sets. > > I keep about 20 different types in stock all the time for this use. They > are not expensive. Worth stocking up. Also, get a bunch of fender washers > to go with them. > > Mark Oppat > Article: 333288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:05:11 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:47:40 GMT, yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) wrote: > >>Anyone not yet convinced that Charlie Nudo is an idiot, please say >>aye. >Just out of curiosity,how much money did Nudo take you for, that you are so >upset about..? Rick About $65, of which he coughed up $40. If I were smarter about eBay at the time, I would've just jammed him with bad feedback and filed a counterfeiting complaint. It's not the amount of money...it's the principle. He sold me: 1.) a bootleg dupe of a documentary movie, the right to do so he did not have from the producer, using the lame excuse that he didn't see a copyright notice on the original label, the dupe of which he did on a worn out old rental VHS cassette, dubbing on a deck with worn out heads, with dropouts and goofs galore. The cheesy typewritten label, adorned with an ink jet label made from a dried out cartridge, was pretty comical. My only satisfaction on that was that was that I got his "coolsitesandsounds" eBay account shut down permanently. 2.) a fake GC Electronics 8 track alignment tape, which he runs off by the gross on misaligned, uncalibrated home machines. My example was done on a worn out Radio Trash "budget line" cartridge with a worn out splice. The alignment tones on it were a joke with no reference to anything whatsoever; the frequency response tones were all over the map. The wow and flutter caused by his honked up dubbing deck was quite obvious. He even recorded right through the track changes, using probably a "dub of a dub" as a "master." He illegally offered this cartridge to me in an "off eBay" sale after I lost the bid to someone else. It took me about 30 seconds when I got it to realize that it was a fake. Later comparison with a real alignment tape at 3¾ IPS showed that Noodles' fraud was off in every respect...azimuth, reference fluxivity and frequency response, by a huge margin. The only thing that was passible was the head hieght, since he recorded it in multitrack. He had scanned the original GC Electronics label and printed it out on an obviously newer ink jet printer. He also specified that the tape he was selling was "by GC Electronics." A warning letter this year to GC-Waldom made him take the GC Electronics name out of his fraud auctions, and then he started using the "Audiotex" trademark again to again defraud potential buyers. He has perpetrated this fraud at least 40 times that I know of, has been called on it, has placated cheated buyers by offering them a "full refund" (minus postage both ways, natch) and continue to defraud people to this day. EBay (typically) protects their fraudster sellers, while penalizing defrauded buyers who seek self help. Note how the record of all the bid retractions on his fake tape auctions disappear after 90 days, and how he's "bought" good feedback by having the defrauded buyers retract their negative feedback. A fraudster like this who commits fraud on small items will also do so on large items, although most of what he sells is basically cheap crap. Add to that his record of personal attacks, such as posting my personal information (address, phone number) on "goo goo groopz," along with his whackoid religious and political views, and you have one big piece of garbage. Note also how that, while "fraudBay" will permanently suspend a member who is a buyer that posts personal information about another member anywhere on the Web, they protected Charlie Nudo, who was at that time a "power seller," for doing the same thing. Nudo lost his "power seller" status this month, so maybe now he's more vulnerable. Note how, under pain of having his eBay fraud empire permanently wrecked, he deleted over 300 posts on "goo goo groopz." No matter...anyone with a real news service can pull them up, as well as the ones from long ago, when his psychotic personality was in full bloom. References provided upon request. Article: 333289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Ebay solicitations Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:14:11 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145828329.497456.138200@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1145842203.975644.82710@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1145982834.269938.37250@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 09:33:54 -0700, "RadioGary" wrote: >Oh I'm sure they will do something. Let's see, form letter number >three or four? Just kidding. I'm sure if they incident is that >annoying or severe they'll take action. EBay does NOTHING in such cases. Their "security" is basically a joke, where incoming fraud and other complaints are sent to "call center" clowns in India, who have trouble understanding the most basic complaints. This is the nexus of the upcoming Tiffany & Co. trial...eBay's "security" is ineffective, and even when advised of frauds on their site, they simply ignore it unless their feet are put to the fire by a large company with deep pockets. Article: 333290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 11:17:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <124r1idhi5fgbd2@corp.supernews.com> <1145965682.633025.288080@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 04:48:02 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >A.M.D. AMD is THE place to be right now for investment in the tech sector. Intel has been flailing away, losing market share, mostly due to overpriced Pentium product, the performance of which is easily outclassed by comparative AMD products. I've run AMDs for over 10 years; they've been superb performers with no compatibility problems or reliability problems whatsoever. Article: 333291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:01:00 -0400 Message-ID: <124ssfejuc8i370@corp.supernews.com> References: <124r0og4esejlcb@corp.supernews.com> " what does the heat from > the iron do (if anything)? Speed up the setting process? Yellow glue= yellow glue as opposed to white glue. Aliphatic resin glue is like calling water hydrogen oxide, or baking soda sodium hydrogen carbonate. I don't quite know where to begin here. All of your comments make it seem as if this is some experiment I intend to perform on you, instead of a well established process for gluing on curved surfaces that has been in use for years by me and many many other people and has been described here and on the Forum endlessly, hence my brevity in description. Since I recognize you as a many year veteran here, I thought I didn't want to bore you with the specifics. Why would you presume I'd recommend something that would burn the veneer while having no effect on the glue I have no idea. In fact yes it dries incredibly fast with this method, that's the whole point. And if the iron isn't on "cotton" no it doesn't burn at all. I have never heard of using an iron with contact cement. No one should use contact cement with any type of wood veneer- it bubbles later regardless of how well you prepare the surface. Posters will now post it works fine for them- but not that they sell the radio before it bubbles. John H. Article: 333292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Date: 25 Apr 2006 20:32:22 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > About $65, of which he coughed up $40. If I were smarter about eBay So you are spending many hours, and helping to drown this group with useless messages, because of 25 bucks and a grudge against someone who might be a fraud or plain clueless. Your crusade will end up making you the one who looses time and money and mental health in the end. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 333293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Ebay solicitations Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:35:37 -0400 Message-ID: <124t20rjfgthqf7@corp.supernews.com> References: <1145828329.497456.138200@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I got spammed by Topo Restorations with the exact same copy pimping for Radio Dittohead Attic. I reported it to eBay. John H. Article: 333294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Replacement Knobs Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:42:42 -0400 Message-ID: <124t2e4poot2f23@corp.supernews.com> References: <1145665580.776431.103170@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> There are also set screw and half shaft versions of these same knobs. John H. Article: 333295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444e93c0$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: 25 Apr 2006 21:25:20 GMT To make a useful attribution to this thread, a special case of push-pull is the so called Philips- or Mullard-design. I can't remember if someone else already mentioned it, because there was an extensive thread about it and the possible explanations of this circuit on a Dutch forum as well. This output stage is described at http://www.computingscience.nl/people/gerard/RadioCorner/Articles/SerBalOut.htm -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 333296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: 59 T-Bird -- won't receive above 1500 References: Message-ID: <9Dw3g.19934$Kn4.528@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:36:49 -0500 Gary Tayman wrote: > Tightening the trimmer presses the plates together, increasing capacitance. > > This trimmer, when at the proper setting for most of the dial, measures 161 > pf. For above 1500, it peaks at about 180 pf. (Measured in-circuit) > That seems counterintuitive to me somehow, but I'll defer to the experts. Thanks. jak Article: 333297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 59 T-Bird -- won't receive above 1500 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:58:56 -0400 Message-ID: <124t6t283q5i599@corp.supernews.com> References: <9Dw3g.19934$Kn4.528@bignews2.bellsouth.net> jakdedert wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> Tightening the trimmer presses the plates together, increasing >> capacitance. >> >> This trimmer, when at the proper setting for most of the dial, >> measures 161 pf. For above 1500, it peaks at about 180 pf. (Measured >> in-circuit) >> > That seems counterintuitive to me somehow, but I'll defer to the experts. > > Thanks. > > jak > Any chance that you're peaking on the IF image? -Bill Article: 333298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:10:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> On 25 Apr 2006 20:32:22 GMT, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: >DeserTBoB wrote: >> About $65, of which he coughed up $40. If I were smarter about eBay > >So you are spending many hours, and helping to drown this group with >useless messages, because of 25 bucks and a grudge against someone who >might be a fraud or plain clueless. Your crusade will end up making you >the one who looses time and money and mental health in the end. Well, it hasn't worked out that way so far. His former "fraud empire" is flat on its back, his sales being a pittance from a couple of years ago, and I've cost him many times over the fraud he perpetrated against me. Some people play video games for fun, I beat up Charlie Nudo for fun...same basic recreational idea. Sorry about the "useless messages," though, so I'll stop those. Article: 333299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:11:40 -0700 Message-ID: <84bt42lug7m9mbpd1m98m235peh08dsqsm@4ax.com> References: <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:12:26 GMT, yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) wrote: >In article <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: >>DeserTBoB wrote: >>> About $65, of which he coughed up $40. If I were smarter about eBay >> >>So you are spending many hours, and helping to drown this group with >>useless messages, because of 25 bucks and a grudge against someone who >>might be a fraud or plain clueless. Your crusade will end up making you >>the one who looses time and money and mental health in the end. >> >I have been ripped off for alot more than a paltry $25 from different people >and i have gotten over it.You have to get over it or it just decreases your >quality of life.If you stop complaining about Nudo for 3 months i will send >you $25.Rick HAHAHA! :::writing this down on a calendar::: Article: 333300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:13:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1146003680.080812.101640@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 15:21:20 -0700, "toxcrusadr" wrote: >Rick wrote: > >>If you stop complaining about Nudo for 3 months i will send you $25.Rick > >Bravo!!! LOL. > >Just think what an guy like this could accomplish if he sank his teeth >into a real problem like world hunger, fossil fuel dependence, child >exploitation...instead he wastes his and everyone's time on a penny >ante operator. Oh, I've done my share on the larger stage in life. The settlements I got for my members during my career tallied up to close to a quarter million dollars against corporate ne'er-do-wells. Noodles is a small fry, but the basic modus operandi is the same...crush and destroy. Article: 333301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:14:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1146002359.401574.314040@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 14:59:19 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >rick-check your email- I just sent you one Email troll. Article: 333302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ISH Subject: Re: Short waves Message-ID: References: <%WN2g.229$DT5.160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:29:23 GMT I believe the band was expanded from 1500 kcs to 1600 kcs around 1941-42. (My 1938 RCA K80 console stops at 1500). At first WQXR NY@ 1560 was an experimental "high fidelity" station with the calls W2XR or something like that. Many other stations followed. There was also a re-alignment of the band in NYC and I believe nationwide also at that time where existing stations had their frequencies reassigned. I remember seeing a reprint of the NY Times showing the new allocations. Mike On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:52:31 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >Is it 1700 or 1710? > >Also, when did the AM expand to 1600? I know the 1700 was only recently. Article: 333303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:34:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 16:24:04 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >Has anyone here toyed with making custom smaller cabinets for 1960-70's >vintage console stereos ? No. Only a moron would do that. >Seems those little buggers are quite common >(I've got 3 of them sitting here now), and the sound damned good >sonsidering the cost. Suggestions ? I "sonsider" anything you do to be the work of a retard, Noodles...including "so-n-so you've got an email I sent you one"...as if they care. Article: 333304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:34:54 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1145877550.606187.179290@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <20253-444E3973-971@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin wrote > Ever notice before that us mens shirts have the buttons on the right > hand (Push) side and wimmins shirts have the buttons on the left hand > (Pull) side? I once accidently bought a wimmins shirt for two dallars (I > smoke like a choo choo Train,Buku cigarette burn holes) at the Goodwill > store.Never again! One of the best replies to this thread: You made my day! Kind Regards Georg (10% discount is way better than 1% distortion) Article: 333305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Zenith TO H-500 batteries Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:49:54 GMT Does anyone have a source for batteries to fit this radio? As I recall, a couple months ago somebody had photos on the binaries of a battery case that looked original but contained standard alkaline batteries inside. I forgot who ti is, but are these available for the H500? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 333306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:41:58 -0600 Message-ID: <17253-444EB3C6-1344@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146003268.058225.58890@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> I have tried ironing veneers several times in the past because of reading about it . About the only way it works well is for small flat pieces . Never had any luck on curves where alot of force is needed to pull & hold it down .Glue & proper clamping always works . Article: 333307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:21:04 -0700 Message-ID: <0pet425hktkngcr3nrfkfdj51adbug2td7@4ax.com> References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:25:40 -0400, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >you can buy many stereos of the 70's-80's for very little money both on line >and at resale stores in most areas of the country. Why would anyone invest >serious money into cabinetry for one of those console units? No serious person would, because the electronics and speakers were cheap garbage. An idiot like Nudo who doesn't know any better might, thinking there's a "big market" at flea markets or something....just like he thought he'd get rich "cornering" the 8 track tape market before his reputation as a fraudster destroyed him. >I get several inquiries from folks who want to sell or give away very nice >early 60's German consoles with AM/FM/Shortwave and phonos in them. I cant >take them because the market is not strong enough. Maybe if I had a store, >but then, I'd be broke soon paying the rent of at least $1200/ mo including >heat and electric. There seems to be a core group of Grundig and Telefunken afficionados for those "big" radios from the '50s and '60s, but it must be pretty small. Although they were far short of anything approaching "fidelity," I remember them as good radio recievers. The receivers in '60s and '70s "consoles" in the US were absolute trash, as were the amplifiers and $2 speakers. Article: 333308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444EBCF2.159081AB@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio References: <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1146002428.880325.60750@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:21:59 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On 25 Apr 2006 15:00:28 -0700, "CAINE" > wrote: > > >Maarten, Check your email, I just sent you one > > Oh great...now you have an email troll, as well. At least he isn't telephoning threats. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Who was R.P.C., Chicago? Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1AW2g.71174$Jd.36004@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <82q3g.6583$k.5847@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> In <82q3g.6583$k.5847@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> "jim menning" writes: >"Fearnola was sold by Cussins & Fearn, a large hardware co. in Columbus, OH. I don't >know if they actually made the sets, but the brand goes back to the mid-20s." Talk about your classic horns of a dilemma. I guess they went with the lesser of two evils. A "Cussinola" would have certainly been a hard sell in that era. :) >http://tinyurl.com/zsycn >An old advertising reference: >http://tinyurl.com/f3y4r >Amazing what a little "Google-ing" will uncover! ;o) Thanks, Jim. I was just makin' conversation, and will fess up to a bit of laziness! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 333310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: ATTENTION OHIO CONSOLE RESCUE PERSONNEL Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:31:52 -0400 Message-ID: <124tfrrpn5uss08@corp.supernews.com> One of RCA's greatest- 15 tubes, looks like an afternoon or ten's work to restore. Cabinet just needs the old Watco oil finish treatment, or Howards- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624533993 John H. Article: 333311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444EBEBD.71F6DC2A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - References: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:29:38 GMT Steven wrote: > > Oh, pick on me now. > > At least you didn't invent me. > > It's an honor to be misconstrued by such as yourself. Really! > > Legitimizes my entire life. I doubt that anyone has ever accused you of being legitimate. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:36:20 -0700 Message-ID: <4qft42po1djisg5gsc30hh4to4707mob7t@4ax.com> References: <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1146002428.880325.60750@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <444EBCF2.159081AB@earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:21:59 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > At least he isn't telephoning threats. Oh, he's done his share of crank calls...or at least he did until I told him my Caller ID box was storing all of them. Then, they miraculously stopped. He's also good for putting in those "request for information" dropout cards from his favorite magazines into the mail with my address on them, and I got a flood of unwanted paper spam. He screwed that up, too, because a cooperative advertiser sent me the actual card he filled out. Turns out the handwriting on that card was identical to that on my $40 refund check he sent me to try to shut me up. I turned all that over the US Postal Inspector's Office, and the paper spam miraculously disappeared as well. I get a kick out of those who excoriate me for chasing and outing this troll. If the same things happened to them, I bet you'd never hear the end of it. Article: 333313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: HEATHKIT IM5284 Multimeter - UNBUILT - Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:41:42 -0700 Message-ID: <6dgt42pcrcrsrike00p7re97lita4tlgst@4ax.com> References: <1145916751.703472.100970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <444D7D6E.67DA4AD3@earthlink.net> <444DB59E.F6CC5F6A@earthlink.net> <1145944196.695549.226950@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444DB9CF.7E5FC42F@earthlink.net> <1145951909.906985.82960@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <444E3F36.BBBD7F92@earthlink.net> <1146005771.107608.6770@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <444EBEBD.71F6DC2A@earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:29:38 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > I doubt that anyone has ever accused you of being legitimate. :( He's not. He's Charlie Nudo's bastard spawn...or is it the other way around? Article: 333314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1145905425.734818.236310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2Ad3g.1320$Gg.32@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <124r13g55a0ofa7@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 3 Weeks Until Kutztown Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:13:29 GMT That may be true, but unless my cabinet restoration starts with a rubber mallet Im up for it! i AM trying to spend a bit more on fewer and better sets this year... but im still Cheap! :-) Keith "Hagstar" wrote in message news:124r13g55a0ofa7@corp.supernews.com... > I'll be there, near the front of the pavilion, should have a Zenith 75 for > sale. > > Pay no attention to Keith, he's looking for decent restorable sets > (pre-war woodens) needing only light cabinet work but that are still not > expensive. He's already got more basket cases than a basement needs :) > > John H. > Article: 333315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <124tfrrpn5uss08@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: ATTENTION OHIO CONSOLE RESCUE PERSONNEL Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:18:35 GMT now THIS is what Im looking for! Only in NY or maybe Kutztown :-) Keith "Hagstar" wrote in message news:124tfrrpn5uss08@corp.supernews.com... > One of RCA's greatest- 15 tubes, looks like an afternoon or ten's work to > restore. Cabinet just needs the old Watco oil finish treatment, or > Howards- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624533993 > > John H. > Article: 333316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <2054-444C0DB2-860@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Message-ID: <5cA3g.27353$nA3.15772@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:40:17 GMT Go side to side instead of up and down. Sawdust on the shoes just shakes off. Ray wrote in message news:2054-444C0DB2-860@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net... > But the guy underneath that push pull saw gets a face full of sawdust. > cuhulin > Article: 333317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:43:25 -0400 Message-ID: <124tk1vqhp2uf33@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146003268.058225.58890@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "RJSoftware" wrote in message news:1146003268.058225.58890@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... . It is > very forgiving and can simply be undone with hot water and/or steam. .....like that provided by a cup of coffee set on a radio for a moment. And a special heated glue pot is needed. Also, how does one get hot hide glue beneath a bubbled area as in this case? John H. Article: 333318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:49:14 -0400 Message-ID: <124tkct3rugnn40@corp.supernews.com> References: <124r0og4esejlcb@corp.supernews.com> http://www.oakwoodveneer.com/tips/ironon.html Article: 333319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:50:12 -0400 Message-ID: <124tkenhhvctj6d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146003268.058225.58890@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <444ebbcd$0$9230$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> http://www.woodezine.com/07_2004/0704_glue.html http://www.oakwoodveneer.com/tips/ironon.html John H. Article: 333320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Who was R.P.C., Chicago? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:06:44 -0400 Message-ID: <124tldn56g65jde@corp.supernews.com> References: <1AW2g.71174$Jd.36004@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <82q3g.6583$k.5847@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> It sounds like you guys think a Fearnola is like the Abominable Snowman. I think of them as reasonably common- they are available on eBay every few months. The model that I've considered is a huge tombstone with a unique feature for the cabinet style- dual speakers. John H. From adouglasatgis.net Sat Apr 29 12:52:54 EDT 2006 Article: 333321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:59:34 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <1146003268.058225.58890@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <444ebbcd$0$9230$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-853.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:333321 Hi, Martin asked: >Hide glue sounds like the old Scotch or animal glue originally used. >I have several sets where this has failed due to damp and old age. >White glue sounds like PVA ( Polyvinyl Acetate) glue >or Evo-Stik Resin W,. >Elmer's glue has also been mentioned here in the past, >which is not known to me, but I assume is the same. >Aliphatic resin glue, I am not yet familiar with. Is it fairly new? Elmer's = white glue = PVA = aliphatic resin. Yellow carpenter's glue is also PVA and also aliphatic, but a somewhat different formulation. PVA can also be bought which dries flexible, as used for book repair. Hide glue as already mentioned comes in granules which are soaked in water and then melted in a glue pot. It is applied hot, and gels as it cools. Below a certain moisture content it does not creep, which distinguishes it from solvent-based contact cements, and makes it ideal for veneer work. The yellow glue, when set, can be reactivated by heat, so the veneer can be "ironed" on, as was originally done with hide glue. That process was called "hammering" for obscure reasons. I presume, but I don't know, that the yellow PVA is also resistant to creep. However I do know that PVA is not approved for structural use in laminated wooden beams, because it does creep there. Alan -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 333322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Victrolas From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1Fd3g.19824$Kn4.4697@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:21:10 GMT There is a yahoo group called Electrolas that deals with early electric machines. Phonlist, another yahoogroup, and phono L from www.oldcrank.com deal more with acoustic machines. Ron L Article: 333323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:47:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 17:42:40 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >they sound quite good- even the SS units sound good, because they all >have discrete transistors in them. BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! >I have a new table saw and cutoff saw from a home improvement project >already- buying wood and making small cabinets would be actually pretty >cheap. What he means is that he ripped off an old lady whose husband died at a local garage sale...that's about as "new" as Noodles could ever get. Article: 333324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:51:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1146003680.080812.101640@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1146006475.013548.282110@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146007176.838686.5220@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146009839.042340.149940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146012891.483923.179590@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 25 Apr 2006 17:54:51 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >you should bother- it's amusing as well as informative Note what a chickenshit he is, trying to "make friends" by essentially doing a little trick the same as "passing messages" in a jr. high class. Of course, what the little knothead doesn't quite understand is that 99% of his little "spitball messages" aren't going anywhere. Remember...I told this NG he was a troll on day 1, and I got a lot of blowback for it. I notice those that were doing that aren't saying much anymore. Article: 333325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jay Subject: Re: ATTENTION OHIO CONSOLE RESCUE PERSONNEL Message-ID: References: <124tfrrpn5uss08@corp.supernews.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:15:45 GMT On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:31:52 -0400, "Hagstar" wrote: >One of RCA's greatest- 15 tubes, looks like an afternoon or ten's work to >restore. Cabinet just needs the old Watco oil finish treatment, or Howards- > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624533993 > >John H. > What does "afternoon or ten's work" mean ? Why is radio great ? For Sound, quality, or ? Article: 333326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Its time to fill the Picture group Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:55:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20565-444BA079-86@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <28V2g.844$Vn.628@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Gary Tayman wrote: > Ahh, so it's noe just me. Since I've been back (using the mindspring > address; the gate is still down) I've noticed nothing is on the binaries. > Didn't know if I still had a problem or if nobody has anything to show. I > just did a test; it's working. > > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/beitman/abpr/html.htm This will show all images posted to a.b.p.r yesterday before 10:00PM PDT (except webtv snapshots, since they don't have a filetype extension in their filenames) There's 4 images there now as of 8:00PM Tuesday, so at least some of them are getting posted. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 333327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444EE75F.3DAAD67B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Stromberg-Carlson expert please! References: <1145908705.314596.154230@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:23:03 GMT Brian McAllister wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:19:12 -0400, "Ken Doyle" > wrote: > > >Looks like a VM record changer. You can get parts at > >http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/ > > > Yes, it looks like a VM model 400 > Brian McAllister > > Sarasota, Florida > > email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Sams Photofact 90-13 for early production Sams Photofact 26-33 for late production -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444EEBDA.A31C20E7@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio References: <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:42:10 GMT Steven wrote: > > PS MIKE: > > You sound like you have a touch of DB's syphilis too. If you can't let > it go, die faster or something. You have nothing to gain from it either. Yawn. Wrong as usual, girlie man. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Bizarre 15 tube Thingy Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:08:37 -0400 Message-ID: <124tsi7gaj9ji54@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146023798.103924.291830@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/15-TUBE-RADIO-IN-BEAUTIFUL-MAPLE-CASE-SEE-PICTURES_W0QQitemZ6623708534QQcategoryZ38035QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > No connection, it's just close to me so I saw it. Any ideas? Doesn't > look to have a dial, tuner cap or speaker. No way that dry cell would > run all 15 tubes. Hmmm. > > Tox > Thats an old 2-way radio rcvr in a box. I think its Motorola. Yeah, it would make waste of a lantern battery in short order! -Bill Article: 333330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1146003268.058225.58890@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <124tk1vqhp2uf33@corp.supernews.com> <1146017931.302394.246820@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:18:20 -0500 "RJSoftware" wrote in message news:1146017931.302394.246820@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Na, takes more than the hot cup of coffee to do any damage. > > As per the glue pot, that's not really needed either. I use a ceramic > coffee cup heated in the microwave for less than a 1 minute. Stays > liquid for as long as most my needs. Depends on the volume. Some use > cheap baby bottle warmers. > > In the case of getting the hide glue (animal glue as you suspected) I > use a broth basting needle that I got at Walmart. I cut the pointed end > off and beat it a bit flat. It slides under edges very well. > > You can thin the glue out with water or make it thick. That and the way > that it dries gives you great control. > > There's a whole group of clock restoration people at the NAWCC > (National Association of Watch Clock Collectors) who swear by it and I > am sold on the stuff too. A big part of clock restoration is devoted to > repairing veneer surfaces. Not only in use of hide glue but techniques > to apply shellac. Very interesting and detailed accounts of all > techniques. http://www.nawcc.org > > RJ > Guys, Wow! A lot of ideas here. There are no breaks in the veneer... it just stands about one thickness high off the curve on the end shown, slightly less on the other end about 12 1/2 inches away, almost as if it came out of the factory that way. I'm really beginning to wonder if that's a possibility. The only other things I can think of, is that the supporting radiused piece was a little green and shrank as it dried, or the veneer itself stretched. The veneer lays flush with the neighboring veneer on the top and front flat surfaces, but high on the curve. And there's no evidence of similar problems on the neighboring veneer, that also follows the curve. Ken, is it really possible to shrink it with glue and strapping? I'd think there would be a pucker somewhere if I were to try the strap and glue... or does the veneer actually "shorten" using your method? I was thinking it might be possible to lift the entire top piece of veneer after stripping it, by using something like a steam iron and a putty knife, then re-laying it using straps and maybe the hide glue. Sound plausible? Cheers, Nelson Article: 333331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: ATTENTION OHIO CONSOLE RESCUE PERSONNEL Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:17:39 -0400 Message-ID: <124tt36fk41p0d5@corp.supernews.com> References: <124tfrrpn5uss08@corp.supernews.com> "Jay" wrote in message news:s8pt42do57k7qa5hjnqv01quncceigoflc@4ax.com... >> > What does "afternoon or ten's work" mean ? Yodon't know how long but it can't be TOO bad. > Why is radio great ? For Sound, quality, or ? EVERYTHING except appearance is great about this series of sets. High end RCA's like this can pee with the big dogs like Scott and decent communications receivers. John H. Article: 333332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ed" References: Subject: Re: Hallicrafters R-12 Floor Model Speaker Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 04:18:32 GMT Thanks for the information guys. I'll try the thinner Carter, Phil I do feel very lucky indeed, and I am including my email in this post for the photos (I didn't catch your name). You may indeed have something special, but all the information I have come up with shows the R-12 being painted as mine is. I would still be gratefull to get any further information I can about the R-12. 73, Ed eh54@sbcglobal.net "Ed" wrote in message news:fTh3g.63683$F_3.62203@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >I have acquired one of these speakers. For those unaware, it did not come >with a natural wood finish, but was painted gray with a red accent stripe. >I am going to have to do some touch-up work or a repaint. Does anyone know >what type of paint was used for it, I am guessing laquer but not sure. Any >experiences with this speaker would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Ed > Article: 333333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:02:10 -0400 Message-ID: <124tvmkl6ku6m10@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146003268.058225.58890@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <124tk1vqhp2uf33@corp.supernews.com> <1146017931.302394.246820@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Nelson Gietz wrote: > > The only other things I can think of, is that the supporting radiused piece > was a little green and shrank as it dried, or the veneer itself stretched. > > The veneer lays flush with the neighboring veneer on the top and front flat > surfaces, but high on the curve. And there's no evidence of similar > problems on the neighboring veneer, that also follows the curve. > Thats a very important point. If the substrate has shrunk then forcing the veneer down on it may leave you with a dented looking effect. I've been there a few times. Thats a totally different scenario than the veneer actually lifting or bubbling above the substrate. And you could have both. I did one set where I had to rebuild it from the bottom side. It was a pain in the butt and came out sorta ok. My worst one was a little RCA 100 cathedral. The whole cabinet had warped out of whack and it wouldn't even sit level. The distortion in the front vs back of the arch left about 1/8 inch difference...no easy cure for that when wrapping on a new piece of veneer. Maybe you can 'fill up' the gap with yellow glue if indeed the substrate has shrunk. I tried using to foamy Gorilla Glue for that once and it didn't work out -Bill Article: 333334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Panasonic model 8 transistor - disassembly? Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:14:39 -0600 Message-ID: <17253-444F01BF-1450@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146024745.807550.57240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> It does come apart . I had one and had it all apart but its been so long i cant remember a thing . Article: 333335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telefunken 5384W Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:36:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <0YE1g.4000$Fy2.3176@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 04:49:10 GMT, "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote: >Someone's "JUNK" is another person's 'Walton"! > >Check how much the radio went for. The con artist lives in..where else? Flori-DUH. "Omah needs to go to the hospital." Likely story. His feedback's pretty sketchy, too. Article: 333336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Telefunken 5384W References: <0YE1g.4000$Fy2.3176@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:38:22 -0500 Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > Someone's "JUNK" is another person's 'Walton"! > > Check how much the radio went for. > > Omer > > > "John Stone" wrote in message > news:C06CF6CC.44940%jmsent2@comcast.net... >> On 4/20/06 12:26 AM, in article >> 0YE1g.4000$Fy2.3176@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Omer >> Suleimanagich" >> wrote: >> >>> Not mine, but a great radio! >>> >>> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-TELEFUNKEN-CONCERTINO-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6622376098QQc >>> ategoryZ38035QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>> Is there anything strange about the bidding here? The winning bidder raised his own $773.60 bid up to $800. Everybody else dropped out days before. I've noticed this happening on my own bids, when I tried to increase my proxie against possible snipe attacks. The eBay software incremented my bid. Is that normal? Article: 333337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: Subject: Re: schematic for a tube code practice oscillator Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:56:37 GMT "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:e279t4$9sdt$1@news3.infoave.net... > I'm looking for a schematic of a tube type code practice oscillator to > build for my daughter. Sounds like a fun project to build. Anybody have a > schematic of one of there ?? > Ben google is your friend http://www.uslink.net/~hepcats/buildcode.html Article: 333338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444F0BFE.B575868B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio References: <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:59:21 GMT Steven wrote: > > Then quit trying to sling dried mud with regularity close to Old > Faithful. > > I'll have to bring up how Google is helping Usenet kill itself and > that'll start yet another argument. > > And I'll be obligated to keep it up because I surely must not have > anything else to do with my life. > > I haven't seen you ignore anything lately either, and I think you must > post to at least 30 groups, maybe 12-15 regularly. > > I visit two normally and see others out of curiousity when I check > posting records on Google > > I think Usenet has syphilis in general to be honest, which is really > sad. > > Cuhulin does the same whatever, let's change the subject nonsense > posting on the ham groups, I see, > > You can call me girlie man, yet you can post about how severely > handicapped you are, how ill, how weak. Then you can throw barbs and > machismo. How interesting. > > How incredibly fascinating. > > How recklessly useless and futile and nonproductive and utterly > stifiling...and ultimately trivial. > > Steven M. Dinius > Member of Earth since 1966 and wasting ever since. Yawn. Go away. Isn't it time for you to camp by your mailbox for your next welfare check? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Telefunken 5384W Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 02:18:30 -0400 Message-ID: <124u45pe4cp2k76@corp.supernews.com> References: <0YE1g.4000$Fy2.3176@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> jakdedert wrote: > > Is there anything strange about the bidding here? The winning bidder > raised his own $773.60 bid up to $800. Everybody else dropped out days > before. > > I've noticed this happening on my own bids, when I tried to increase my > proxie against possible snipe attacks. The eBay software incremented my > bid. > > Is that normal? I didn't pay any attention to it before...but no, I don't understand it either. Was there a reserve on this item? -Bill > Article: 333340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Short waves Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:19:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <%WN2g.229$DT5.160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <8484-444CCC89-154@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> In article , "Stan" wrote: > Ah: Bill! Radio Luxembourg, post WWII! A nostalgic memory of my youth! The > only alternative, then, to the 'stodgy' BBC! Stodgy? If you're including the BBC World Service it has always been, and continues to be, a class act IMHO. (I'm glad they didn't pull the plug on their shortwave service a couple of years back.) Often wish some of our American news organizations were of the same caliber. Perhaps like CNN of 20-25 years ago. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 333341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "George Conklin" References: <1Fd3g.19824$Kn4.4697@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Victrolas Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:15:28 GMT "oldfogie" wrote in message news:1Fd3g.19824$Kn4.4697@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > I just found this forum, and though it's named radio+phono, seems to be > almost nothing about phonos, or wind up record players. > Does anyone know of a forum dedicated to wind-up Victrolas, etc? > I just obtained a Victor VE8-30X victrola, and one or more parts are > missing. It uses an electric motor instead of wind-up. One thing I know is > missing is the brake. And there is a speed adjustment knob on the top near > the turntable, but there is nothing underneath it. > I would appreciate any info on victrola parts places, and any forums for old > phonos/record players. > Thanks, Malcolm B. > > At one time we had a lot of posters on phonographs but most people get their questions answered quickly and move on. If you want to know how to repair phonographs, you need to buy Eric Reiss' book "The Compleat Talking Machine" available from many places like the Antique Phonograph Supply Company (google them). Article: 333342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444f5918$0$31645$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio References: <1145775882.810285.166160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_IT2g.41186$x97.30596@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1145877637.655539.3530@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> <1145927993.336498.262410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1146002428.880325.60750@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: 26 Apr 2006 11:27:20 GMT CAINE wrote: > Maarten, Check your email, I just sent you one That would be hard, my real address is not in here. I always prefer replies in the group. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 333343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <3XA3g.73480$WI1.31594@pd7tw2no> Subject: Re: Zenith TO H-500 batteries Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:30:23 -0400 Message-ID: <444f59d6$0$1018$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Actually, it's Bill.... :-) I'm getting ready to build some more in a few weeks. You can contact me at batterymaker at gmail dot com. "Shawn K" wrote in message news:3XA3g.73480$WI1.31594@pd7tw2no... > Hi Gary, I think the person you are refering to is Bruce (?), sells his > replica batteries on ebay, has a few up right now, check out auction # > 6623562738 this is for a hallicrafters version, but he has the zenith, > RCA, and others from time to time. I want to buy one myself, just watching > my pennies at the moment. There are other options, I have one of the > inverter battery packs from Jim Poitivient, it's really good, only uses 9 > D cells, lasts about 70 hours. Contact jim abbattery@aol.com for more > information about pricing on that one. > > Gary Tayman wrote: >> Does anyone have a source for batteries to fit this radio? >> >> As I recall, a couple months ago somebody had photos on the binaries of a >> battery case that looked original but contained standard alkaline >> batteries inside. I forgot who ti is, but are these available for the >> H500? >> >> > > > -- > > Shawn K > www.thisoldradio.com Article: 333344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:06:49 -0400 "CAINE" wrote in message news:1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > you hit the nail there- ever increasing rent and utilities can take the > fun out of any hobby/business And transport costs, too. Oil at US$100/gal. isn't far off, and moving these pieces can be major moolah. Not to mention the danger of damage in shipping, due to sheer mass of them. A shame, but most of them are doomed to dumpsters. Let's face it though, most of them are dreck, made for mass markets and deserve to rot in hail. Article: 333345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Push Pull Audio Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:09:07 -0700 Message-ID: <5mvu429fnn1su5341v9b31fv16dm1l6kbn@4ax.com> References: <444e8756$0$31656$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1146003680.080812.101640@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1146006475.013548.282110@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146007176.838686.5220@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146009839.042340.149940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146012891.483923.179590@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146014210.544530.215180@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146047113.429438.44810@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 26 Apr 2006 03:25:13 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >you should talk, looking at some of your posts... People on "goo goo" would probalby get a big kick out of a lot of YOUR threatening and psychotic posts too, Noodles..except, chickenshit that you are, you deleted them. I still have them all, though...and will expose you from time to time with "Noodles Classics" until you finally just go away. Article: 333346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telefunken 5384W Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:10:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: <0YE1g.4000$Fy2.3176@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:38:22 -0500, jakdedert wrote: >Is there anything strange about the bidding here? The winning bidder >raised his own $773.60 bid up to $800. Everybody else dropped out days >before. A shill bidder who doesn't know what he's doing, perhaps? > >I've noticed this happening on my own bids, when I tried to increase my >proxie against possible snipe attacks. The eBay software incremented my >bid. > >Is that normal? That's the way they want it to work yes. Article: 333347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DSL NAME" Subject: Question about the Kutztown Radio meet Message-ID: <8LL3g.8273$lb.748171@news1.epix.net> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:48:36 GMT Hi all, Does anyone here have experience with selling at the Kutztown Radio swap meet? I ask because I was thinking of setting up a table this year, as opposed to being just a buyer. The web page says it starts on Friday at noon. My problem is that I work evenings and would find it hard enough to get there early enough Saturday to set up a table and things, let alone get there Friday and set up. And if you do set up on Friday morning, what do you do with your stuff overnight? I assume it just sits out in the open air, or do you have to put it all back into your vehicle and then bring it all back outside the following day? Last year I bought some stuff from one guy who was apparently sleeping in the back of his pickup truck. Is this the thing to do? And if you could only get there Sat morning, would it even be worth it, since you missed out on Friday's action? Just curious if anyone else had experience with this... Dave Article: 333348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Zenith TO H-500 batteries References: <3XA3g.73480$WI1.31594@pd7tw2no> <444f59d6$0$1018$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:52:11 GMT Shawn K wrote: > Ah, right, Bill.... sorry about that, I have a good memory, just not > enough of it :) From a sitcom several years ago, and I've copied it at times myself. Taps the side of my head, "Everything I need to know is contained here. Contents may have settled during shipping." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 333349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:33:41 GMT "CAINE" wrote in message news:1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > OIL PRICES- they are predicting $80 a barrel oil- which means low end > gas costs $3.50 to $4 a gallon easily > > if you look into U.S. oil consumption, we are using 20 million barrels > daily- DAILY- each barrel holds 42 gallons > > http://mwhodges.home.att.net/energy/energy-a.htm > > 20 million barrels daily, multiply that by 42 gallons per barrel, you > can see that even at 2 cents per gallon profit, the oil companies can > make about 5 billion in profit per year > > actually, the local-state-federal government makes more on a gallon of > gas, than the oil co's do- > Don't confuse world market prices ~$75 bbl. with what the oil companies actually pay for raw oil. The rate often quoted is what non-committed oil futures go for in the free market, but most big oil companies have their own oil fields, and produce oil for much less. They also refine their own, saving on processing and transportation costs over having a third party do it. Exxon uses mostly oil from it's own investments at a cost closer to $20 bbl., but markets it as though it was purchased at the world rate. That's were the huge profits come into play. Exxon could easily sell gas at the pumps for half what it is going for now, but why would they? Why would anyone in a free market? jim menning Article: 333350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <1146058078.118899.225530@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 551 Clock Motor Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:50:30 -0400 Mine has no indication of a manufacturer or model number on the aluminum motor case. It has a knob for setting, and also one for starting, since the motor is NOT SELF STARTING. If I had to guess, I'd say it is made by Hammond Clock Company (like my Crosley Play-Time clock radio). "m82a1pa" wrote in message news:1146058078.118899.225530@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > I recently got a Philco 551 which, unfortunately, has had a different > clock motor married to it. The motor has no mechanical parts to set > the time. > > Would anyone know the make, and perhaps the model, of the original > motor? > > Thanks, > Article: 333351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" Subject: Belmont model 346 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:02:24 GMT I just got one of these. its a wooden radio, but its not the typical veneer, its got like a leather coat or something. not sure. AM broadcast band. its an AC/DC radio. Anyone have any information on this radio? such as a schematic, or a date of manufacture? Article: 333352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: Subject: Re: Belmont model 346 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:11:43 GMT oops, ment 546. paper is kinda smudged. "Mike" wrote in message news:AIN3g.20658$mh.6485@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > I just got one of these. its a wooden radio, but its not the typical veneer, > its got like a leather coat or something. not sure. AM broadcast band. > > its an AC/DC radio. > > Anyone have any information on this radio? such as a schematic, or a date of > manufacture? > > Article: 333353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:29:18 -0700 Message-ID: <0nav42hb8ottdm79rn1qmn7p4jnick3crg@4ax.com> References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 26 Apr 2006 08:05:09 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >OIL PRICES- they are predicting $80 a barrel oil- which means low end >gas costs $3.50 to $4 a gallon easily > >if you look into U.S. oil consumption, we are using 20 million barrels >daily- DAILY- each barrel holds 42 gallons Nitwit...you haven't a clue. Light, sweet crude's going to over $100 by August, mark my word. Also, a barrel contains 42 US gallons of CRUDE, not finished product. >20 million barrels daily, multiply that by 42 gallons per barrel, you >can see that even at 2 cents per gallon profit, the oil companies can >make about 5 billion in profit per year Duh...no consumer buys crude. Your "facts" are about as credible as your other blather. > >actually, the local-state-federal government makes more on a gallon of >gas, than the oil co's do- > >http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/statistics/gas_taxes_by_state_2002.html > >so if we want CHEAPER FUEL, we need the feds, stateys, and locals to >remove their LAZY, FAT-ASS, MONEY GRUBBING TAXES off it- and it would >drop to near $2 a gallon Fine...then, pay a TOLL to drive on ANY public road. Pay $500 for a processing fee for your driver's license. Pay $500 for each and every time you contact your local police agency. Idiot...nothing's free...your fuel taxes PAY for public services. Want a "pay as you go" program? The accounting and processing would grind the country to a halt in a day. >it's a volume market- the oil co's don't make a big markup per gallon, >they make their profit on volume sold- because we use so much > >we are 5% of world population, but use 26% of world's oil production Because US idiots drive hulking SUVs and pickups powered by obsolete, inefficient V8s and V10s, for which there is NO logical use, other than as a prick extension. >who can complain about fuel at $3 a gallon, when they drive a Lexus >SUV, Lincoln Navigator, Hummer, Cadillac Escalade, etc ?? $3 a gallon >is cheap ! A Spanish film producer was filling up his Escalade at an LA gas station for $3.15, and he remarked, "This just doesn't seem that high to me. People in Europe have been paying more than this for a long time." Americans are spoiled. The going price for a gallon of gasoline in Europe runs around $5.50/gallon, and we'll see that possibly by the end of summer. GOOD! Crush those SUVs and polluting gas wasters. Make people ride the train to work. WALK to the store. In other words, get of your fat, lazy asses and be responsible for once. Metrolink, the public heavy rail agency in Southern California, has just placed an emergecy order for 25 new coaches for their commuter trains. Ridership has increased about 20% since gas hit $2.50/gallon, with many trains having standees. One can commute from my location to downtown Los Angeles, approximately 90 miles one way, for $200/mo by train, where it would cost $450/mo in a gas powered SUV. Do the math. The days of gas guzzlers is over. Over at the GM dealerships, unwanted Suburbans and Escalades sit with "$5000 off the top!" placards on their windshields, and no one's biting. Of course, GM doesn't even have an economical gas-electric or diesel in their whole lineup. Duh. Article: 333354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Belmont model 346 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:47:27 -0400 Message-ID: <124vchihlmnvi2b@corp.supernews.com> References: Mike wrote: > oops, ment 546. paper is kinda smudged. http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/129/M0002129.pdf There's a little date there that suggests the schematic was issued July 1940. Article: 333355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146073775.612321.217520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:53:17 GMT "CAINE" wrote in message news:1146073775.612321.217520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Our oil companies only own enough oil fields, to supply about half of > our demand- so I seriously doubt they own all the oil fields we need to > keep this economic machine going. How could they ? Read the stats- > we are about 60% dependent on foreign oil reserves, with Canada being > the largest supplier of oil for our needs. > Don't forget that a lot of those "foreign oil reserves" are also owned by the US corporations. jim menning Article: 333356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444FB371.4377EEFD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT A JUDGE SHOW ON TV References: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:53:41 GMT Steven wrote: > > WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A JUDGE ON AFTERNOON TV FOR ANY OF YOU. > > I MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO FIND A LARGE PADDLE AND BRUISE MUSCLE ON "ALL" > OF YOU, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO MUCH GOOD EITHER. > > You all bug the hell out of me. Back off. Sorry, Skippy, but this is "Survivor, rec.antiques.radio+phono" and you've been voted off the newsgroup. Please leave quietly, and take all of your paranoia with you. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146073862.870321.200940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:00:04 GMT "CAINE" wrote in message news:1146073862.870321.200940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > ps- regardless, if doesn't change the fact, that here in Pa. the taxes > are 50 cents a gallon. Fill up the average vehicle with a 15 gallon > tank, the G-men are getting $7.50 > > which amounts to trillions of dollars in taxes. > > for nothing > For nothing? Where do you think the money comes from to build the roads we drive on? jim menning Article: 333358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146073775.612321.217520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:14:16 -0500 CAINE wrote: > Our oil companies only own enough oil fields, to supply about half of > our demand- so I seriously doubt they own all the oil fields we need to > keep this economic machine going. How could they ? Read the stats- > we are about 60% dependent on foreign oil reserves, with Canada being > the largest supplier of oil for our needs. > Hate to get into this rant, but 'our' oil companies are all multinationals. 'Imported oil' doesn't preclude their ownership of the fields.... jak Article: 333359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT A JUDGE SHOW ON TV Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:17:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146003680.080812.101640@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1146006475.013548.282110@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146007176.838686.5220@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146009839.042340.149940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146012891.483923.179590@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146014210.544530.215180@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146047113.429438.44810@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1146052137.022263.250890@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <444FB371.4377EEFD@earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:53:41 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > Sorry, Skippy, but this is "Survivor, rec.antiques.radio+phono" and >you've been voted off the newsgroup. Please leave quietly, and take all >of your ...Charlie Nudo sock puppets with you. Article: 333360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:20:19 -0700 Message-ID: <4bev42humrdqdov5urd9ufka1khenfgpms@4ax.com> References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146073775.612321.217520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 26 Apr 2006 10:49:35 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >Our oil companies only own enough oil fields, to supply about half of >our demand- Idiot...MOST of the "oil fields" in the US are NOT owned by the oil companies. They're owned by private owners who contract to sell crude >from their mineral rights. > so I seriously doubt they own all the oil fields we need to >keep this economic machine going. How could they ? Read the stats- >we are about 60% dependent on foreign oil reserves, with Canada being >the largest supplier of oil for our needs. There's enough oil sand in Canada to keep us going for a couple of hundred years...a fact not lost on the cagey Canucks, for certain. However, job 1 is to get rid of gasoline as a fuel source...period. Article: 333361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:22:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146073862.870321.200940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 26 Apr 2006 10:51:02 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >ps- regardless, if doesn't change the fact, that here in Pa. the taxes >are 50 cents a gallon. So? > Fill up the average vehicle with a 15 gallon >tank, the G-men are getting $7.50 OK, we'll drop ALL the state and Federal taxes on your gasoline. Pull out of the Beech Creek Septic Mudpuddle Estates where you live? Hit the tool booth...toll? $5 to downtown Scranton. > >which amounts to trillions of dollars in taxes. > >for nothing What do you mean, "nothing?" Where do you think the roads you drive upon (and pester people upon) come from...out of your commodious ass? Your fuel taxes BUILD and MAINTAIN the vast expanses of highway you drive on...moron. Article: 333362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:25:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146073862.870321.200940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:00:04 GMT, "jim menning" wrote: > >"CAINE" wrote in message >news:1146073862.870321.200940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> ps- regardless, if doesn't change the fact, that here in Pa. the taxes >> are 50 cents a gallon. Fill up the average vehicle with a 15 gallon >> tank, the G-men are getting $7.50 >> >> which amounts to trillions of dollars in taxes. >> >> for nothing >> > >For nothing? Where do you think the money comes from to build the roads we drive on? Charlie Noodles typifies the low IQ, Flush Limpdick loving, Bush voting mentality that's gotten us into the tight economic spot we're in right now. There's no reasoning with such a 'tard. Funny how their ilk is quickly disappearing, though, as reflected by Flush, Bill "The Pervert's", and Yawn Hannity's plummeting Arbitron numbers. Funny also how the sales numbers for the Washington Times, the right wing loony paper controlled by Rev. Yung Sun Moon, are similarly falling on hard times. > >jim menning > Article: 333363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0nav42hb8ottdm79rn1qmn7p4jnick3crg@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:43:17 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > A Spanish film producer was filling up his Escalade at an LA gas > station for $3.15, and he remarked, "This just doesn't seem that high > to me. People in Europe have been paying more than this for a long > time." Absolutely true, but what's his point? Most of the people in Europe paying big bucks for gas are driving roller skates, not a barge like the Escalade... Article: 333364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: VENEER GLUE QUESTION in REVERSE Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:52:14 -0400 Has anyone had to remove veneer glued with yellow glue? Would heat loosen it? I'm sure water wouldn't work as well as it does on original hyde glue. Ken Article: 333365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Restoration tip #2 References: <8_udnRhPlqkuE9LZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:55:56 -0400 That's a dirty trick. Ken Mark Oppat wrote: > In a continuing series... > > Here is one that almost got me! > > RCA Model 19K console (9 tubes, 1941, "Racetrack Dial" set) > > Has a slide rule dial. I restored the chassis and it was playing great. > Since the dial is in the set, I didnt do a final alignment (yeah, I know RCA > has a graduated scale on the dial hub, and instructions in the service > notes about alignment to that). > > so I put the chassis in, and tune in some stations and it seems the > oscillator is doing that partial dial inversion thing where 1400 is around > 600, but 760 is still around 760, and good from there on up. This really > "throws" me until finally... I realize the WHOLE dial is > backwards....because.... the dial is STRUNG WRONG!!! > > What threw me was I thought I had our WJR at 760 (where it belongs) but > really I had WWJ 950. > > If you look at the dial cord schematic on this, its a bit odd and not the > logical way you would string it. The logical way works, but inverts the > dial. > > watch out on slide rule sets which way you string the dial! Check it > against any reference you have. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 333366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Zenith Trans-Oceanic Royal 1000D (Chassis 9CT41Z2) References: <1146083025.766230.136380@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2JQ3g.3109$TT.732@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:27:42 GMT This might be obvious but are you powering with batteries or using and AC adapter? Don wrote: > I recently inherited subject radio. I have solved all problems but one > - continuous buzz and low output volume. Buzz is present at constant > level (independent of volume setting) whenever unit is on (both radio > and phono mode). When in radio mode, broadcasts can be heard on top of > buzz and their level goes with the volume control but always > significantly lower level than you'd expect. Referring to a Royal 1000 > (Chassis 9CT40Z2) schematic, when I pull out the "1st Audio" transistor > I still hear buzz (no broadcasts obviously). When I pull out "Driver" > transistor, buzz disappears (no audio output). So my conclusion is > that there is some component between the "1st Audio" and the "Driver" > that's causing buzz and low volume. There is a coupling electrolytic > between "1st Audio" and volume control and another between volume > control swinger and "Driver". There are a couple other capacitors in > that area related to the tone control. So finally my question, could > any of these capacitors cause this problem? If not, any idea what it > might be? Sorry, two questions. Thank you very much for any advice > you may have! > Article: 333367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Kutztown Radio Meet - Directions and Hotels References: <1146073395.264368.159780@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:31:50 GMT Thanks, now all we need is some nice weather! saegers@ptd.net wrote: > There have been a few questions on directions and hotels. I took some > time to create 2 quick maps - one shows the area with the two major > interstate highways nearby labeled and some hotel options. The second > is a much closer view for getting to the actual meet site. > > USe the first map to get to the general area, then the second to find > the exact site. > > For now its here: http://www.saegerradio.com/Kutztown/Directions.htm > > Hope this helps. > Article: 333368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444FDAF4.712BE034@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT A JUDGE SHOW ON TV References: <1146003680.080812.101640@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:42:17 GMT Steven wrote: > > DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:53:41 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > > wrote: > > > > > Sorry, Skippy, but this is "Survivor, rec.antiques.radio+phono" and > > >you've been voted off the newsgroup. Please leave quietly, and take all > > >of your > > > > ...Charlie Nudo sock puppets with you. > > You have them, you remove them. You and Terrell sleep together. Come un, Skippy business will pick up in the truck stop rest room, if you stop turning the lights on and scaring your johns away. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444FDB35.C4E75C13@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT A JUDGE SHOW ON TV References: <9NmdnQ8soIDY9NDZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:43:22 GMT Steven wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE A JUDGE ON AFTERNOON TV FOR ANY OF YOU. > > > > > > I MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO FIND A LARGE PADDLE AND BRUISE MUSCLE ON "ALL" > > > OF YOU, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO DO MUCH GOOD EITHER. > > > > > > You all bug the hell out of me. Back off. > > > > > > Sorry, Skippy, but this is "Survivor, rec.antiques.radio+phono" and > > you've been voted off the newsgroup. Please leave quietly, and take all > > of your paranoia with you. > > > > > > > > -- > > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > > prove it. > > Member of DAV #85. > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > Who are you talking to? There is nobody named Skippy here. If you aren't Skippy, why do you start babbling every time someone mentions your name? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: VENEER GLUE QUESTION in REVERSE Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:09:30 -0400 Message-ID: <124voceb40t6082@corp.supernews.com> References: Heat should work, haven't faced this problem yet personally though. John H. Article: 333371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: schematic for a tube code practice oscillator References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:20:53 GMT HiTech RedNeck wrote: > "Benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:e279t4$9sdt$1@news3.infoave.net... > >> I'm looking for a schematic of a tube type code practice oscillator > > to > >>build for my daughter. Sounds like a fun project to build. Anybody have a >>schematic of one of there ?? >> Ben > > > google is your friend > > http://www.uslink.net/~hepcats/buildcode.html > > I would definitely suggest adding a small isolation transformer to the incoming powerline connections of that circuit. Otherwise, one side of the key and one side of the earphones are tied directly to the AC line! Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 333372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444FE6D9.86BAD87E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: THIS IS NOT A JUDGE SHOW ON TV References: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:33:03 GMT Steven wrote: > > Why do you keep trying to push, thinking yolu are going to remove me? I > remember how angry you were when you returned. > > Is this thread gong to continue for months? > > Are you really tired of this soap opera, or have you decided to align > with them to your own ends? > > Nobody else responds to this thread but them, you and I. We shall have > to see if I know get a remark just to prove me wrong. > > I'm not paranoid about it, but I'm tired of this crap. You're on the > bottom of the dogpile, and I'm watching it just wondering why. It's not > amusing. Look, Skippy, every time that you make a pile of shit on the newsgroup I will be here to push your worthless face in it. You always start the shit, then whine like a six year old girl when you're called on it. Get used to it, Skippy. I'm here for the long haul. I just added "Skippy" to my spell checker to save me some time when I shove your nose in your latest mess. What else do I have to do while the computers I'm fixing for "Computers for Veterans" are being checked for virii and spyware? I'm sure you remember that project, the one that you made a threatening phone call to my church over? I can only work on a half dozen computers at a time, so you're my entertainment. You are a bad soap opera. Its like watching a train wreck: "As the Skippy turns" "The Young and the Skippy", "Dark Skippy" Misguided Skippy" and a host of other low class daytime crappy soap operas all rolled into one. You fit right in with the devious, greedy and pathetic characters cast on those shows. If you were on Dallas, they would have had to call it "Malice" -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444FE72A.10A88BD0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OH, for crying out loud References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:34:23 GMT Steven wrote: > > --- That is the most intelligent thing that you've said in the past year, Skippy. Keep up the good work! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: ATTENTION OHIO CONSOLE RESCUE PERSONNEL From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <124tfrrpn5uss08@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:42:16 GMT In article , newton5@remove.comcast.net says... > > > Noted and watched Hagstar. I'm about an hour from Akron. Worth the trip just to have >an excuse for a Stevensons burger and fries and a round through Quaker Square. Good Luck Tom ... that is one hellava a radio.. like Mark said get it working right and you will throw rocks at a lot of the Zeniths.. 15 tubers are tough to come by.. John k9uwa Article: 333375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:47:49 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >you can buy many stereos of the 70's-80's for very little money both on line >and at resale stores in most areas of the country. Why would anyone invest >serious money into cabinetry for one of those console units? Someone calls and asks me if I want one of these beasts.. the standard answer is ... well not really but... if you drop it off on my front doorstep I will pay you Five Dollars for it... rip out a few useful parts.. like the VM changers and the radio for useful parts.. power transformers and output transformers and such.. and I will burn the rest of the box... Maybe if I burn enough of them.. in another 50 years the supply will be so small that they might be worth something.. John Article: 333376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! (and new tip) References: <124r0og4esejlcb@corp.supernews.com> <124ssfejuc8i370@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:47:26 GMT John, You seem a little touchy about my post--didn't mean to hit a raw nerve and my original question was asked in the spirit of "inquiring minds want to know"... Let me respectfully respond to some of your comments below: Hagstar wrote: > Yellow glue= yellow glue as opposed to white glue. Aliphatic resin > glue is like calling water hydrogen oxide, or baking soda sodium > hydrogen carbonate. Certainly! *You* know that and *I* know that, but there were others on the group that didn't, Martin Crossley for one. > I don't quite know where to begin here. All of your comments make it > seem as if this is some experiment I intend to perform on you, [well, not "me", literally. Original poster was Nelson Gietz] > Why would you presume I'd recommend something that would burn the > veneer while having no effect on the glue I have no idea. In fact yes > it dries incredibly fast with this method [the iron], that's the whole point. OK, if you say so, but... Ken G. wrote: > I have tried the iron with poor [!] results . However if you try this you > probably want to place one layer of standard paper down to keep from > burning the veneer . Hagstar wrote: > No one should use contact cement with any type of wood veneer- it > bubbles later regardless of how well you prepare the surface. Interesting comment, as contact cement for veneer was traditionally used for *years* (along with the notorious "J"-roller) before yellow glue was invented and is still being used by many today. BTW, here is one trick to try that I forgot to mention earlier... When I was building a reproduction Aaron Willard Grandmother clock, I needed to glue a piece of mahogany veneer on the curved bonnet top. For various structural and space reasons, I couldn't use the "J"-roller, so I went with yellow glue and...here's the trick...small, home-made sand bags. Followed the curves perfectly and worked great! Regards, Carter Article: 333377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ebay solicitations From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1145828329.497456.138200@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <124t20rjfgthqf7@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <21S3g.122445$oL.29036@attbi_s71> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:57:18 GMT In article <124t20rjfgthqf7@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > > I got spammed by Topo Restorations with the exact same copy pimping for >Radio Dittohead Attic. I reported it to eBay. > >John H. > > Jeez... I feel slighted here .. I didn't get one.. John k9uwa Article: 333378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <8LL3g.8273$lb.748171@news1.epix.net> Subject: Re: Question about the Kutztown Radio meet Message-ID: <35S3g.2532$Ci.1299@trnddc05> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:01:35 GMT That's funny, it was probably me. Won't be selling this year, have to work. Most of the stuff will get sold on the friday if you price it right. Lots of the sellers only set up on friday, then cover up the items and are gone until early sat morning. > Last year I bought some stuff from one > guy who was apparently sleeping in the back of his pickup truck. Is this > the thing to do? And if you could only get there Sat morning, would it even > be worth it, since you missed out on Friday's action? Just curious if > anyone else had experience with this... > > Dave > > Article: 333379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Pelham" References: <1AW2g.71174$Jd.36004@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <82q3g.6583$k.5847@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1145978934.427059.308860@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Who was R.P.C., Chicago? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:00:10 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:EOCdnZNoIsxT_dPZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com... > Blacksmith here on the newsgroup offers a fantastic deal on a set of CD's > scanned from my originals. Thank you Mark for mentioning Blacksmith's Radio Retailing discs. I wasn't aware these existed; I just ordered myself the 2-DVD set. Instead of sending him an e-mail, I did a little Googling. Blacksmith has a Web site >from which orders can be easily placed and sample scans can be viewed. http://www.renovatedradios.com/cds_for_sale.html John P. Article: 333380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Pelham" References: <1AW2g.71174$Jd.36004@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <82q3g.6583$k.5847@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <124tldn56g65jde@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Who was R.P.C., Chicago? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:55:53 -0400 John H. wrote in message news:124tldn56g65jde@corp.supernews.com... > It sounds like you guys think a Fearnola is like the Abominable Snowman. I > think of them as reasonably common- they are available on eBay every few > months. It's just semantics but I'd call a brand available on eBay only once every few months somewhat rare. "Reasonably common" would be on eBay every day! John P. Article: 333381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444FF1EE.E7C298EC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OH, for crying out loud References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:20:20 GMT Steven wrote: > > What in the hell are you doing in aus.electronics with the desertbob > show? They must think you're a nice f***up now. > > I think Australians are smarter than you think, and they think we're a > bit retarded sometimes telling them what to do. > > Any more career-enhancing moves? Bite me, dumbass! -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <444FF696.AD74D1F9@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OH, for crying out loud References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:40:12 GMT Steven wrote: > > --- BTW, Skippy, How do you like my new sig file? -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Regen Question Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:03:28 -0400 Message-ID: <124vv22dhj3up80@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146091554.957786.174200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> dconley@lawfacts.com wrote: > varies the plate regen voltage. The grid leak combination is a 6 Mohm > resistor and 45 pf cap. > > > My problem is that the regeneration often fades out. (the radio > essentially goes dead) and I have to touch the grid of the regen tube > to bring it back in. Try tinkering with the grid leak values...maybe a little lower on the resistance and higher on the cap and see if it makes a difference. -Bill Article: 333384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44500089.B47D3152@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OH, for crying out loud References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:22:39 GMT Steven wrote: > > Fine with me, but I think that since I haven't done business with that > ISP for a long time, you're really kinda being stupid and they could > probably sue you. Yeah, right. For a post that YOU made? Keep dreaming, Skippy! As far as "Done business", they gave you the business when they closed your account for USENET abuse. > Lions and tigers, loop de loop, > > Animal crackers in my soup > > I'm lovin that Clueless as ever, huh Skippy? -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OH, for crying out loud Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:34:32 -0700 Message-ID: <0q005295gbulom06q1i1k2iedcj2p0vvm0@4ax.com> References: <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146073775.612321.217520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1146086439.014785.98030@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <444FF696.AD74D1F9@earthlink.net> <1146092988.326333.156240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <44500089.B47D3152@earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:22:39 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >Steven wrote: >> >> Fine with me, but I think that since I haven't done business with that >> ISP for a long time, you're really kinda being stupid and they could >> probably sue you. > > > Yeah, right. For a post that YOU made? Keep dreaming, Skippy! As >far as "Done business", they gave you the business when they closed your >account for USENET abuse. Another Charlie Nudo in the works here...."Noodles 'n Skippy"...they go together well! Skippy you've got an email, I just sent you one. No, that's Noodles. line, sorry. Article: 333386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Ebay solicitations Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:35:35 -0700 Message-ID: <9t0052pj51lik4ldebbi97s6opcto777mk@4ax.com> References: <1145828329.497456.138200@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <124t20rjfgthqf7@corp.supernews.com> <21S3g.122445$oL.29036@attbi_s71> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:57:18 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote: >In article <124t20rjfgthqf7@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net >says... >> >> >> I got spammed by Topo Restorations with the exact same copy pimping for >>Radio Dittohead Attic. I reported it to eBay. >> >>John H. >> >> > >Jeez... I feel slighted here .. I didn't get one.. >John k9uwa According to Arbitron, "dittoheads" are getting close to being an endangered species. Article: 333387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Terrell...wrong ISP Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:44:18 -0700 Message-ID: Uh....I'm on 01.com, and I do not post spam. Noodles is on epix.net. HE's the spammer...although, for some reason, he's quit spamming again. Just thought you'd like to know. The "spam warning" wasn't clear. Article: 333388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: Subject: Re: Belmont model 346 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:45:54 GMT I need a tubeset for this. the 35Z5, and the Audio Amp tube is ok, but the rest are bad. 2 have no emissions. 1 bad filiment. "Mike" wrote in message news:AIN3g.20658$mh.6485@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > I just got one of these. its a wooden radio, but its not the typical veneer, > its got like a leather coat or something. not sure. AM broadcast band. > > its an AC/DC radio. > > Anyone have any information on this radio? such as a schematic, or a date of > manufacture? > > Article: 333389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:55:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1j5052pdg11mrn52fnunjn8mn1g2ds4fuh@4ax.com> References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:26:13 -0700, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >With respect to high oil prices -- everyone is at fault. > >Too many Americans insist on owning large, fuel-hungry vehicles. > >The government (both Democrats and Republicans) has, for almost 30 years, >been reluctant to set extreme fuel-efficiency standards. > >Market economics be damned. This is a situation where our national security >should have been more important that Americans' freedom to choose large >vehicles they (usually) didn't need. What he said! Article: 333390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Regen Question Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:56:48 -0400 Message-ID: <12505mkaiegc37b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146091554.957786.174200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <124vv22dhj3up80@corp.supernews.com> From- http://www.qsl.net/n6ev/Regen1.txt "Second, and equally or slightly less important, is the use of a high value grid leak and a low value grid capacitor. Typically, old style regen receivers used 100-250pf for the grid coupling capacitor and a 1-3 meg ohm grid leak. I use a 10-20 meg ohm grid leak and a 10-20pf capacitor, rather than the older values. It works much better and does not load down the tuned tank, and thereby maximizes the selectivity." See also- http://www.qsl.net/n6ev/Regen.txt http://www.qsl.net/n6ev/Regen2.txt John H. Article: 333391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ISH Subject: Re: Short waves Message-ID: References: <%WN2g.229$DT5.160@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <8484-444CCC89-154@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:02:42 GMT BBC has pulled the plug on all of the shortwave broadcasts to North America. If you hear them, it is likely beamed to the Caribbean, or elsewhere. I miss them On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:19:38 -0400, wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) wrote: >In article , "Stan" > wrote: > >> Ah: Bill! Radio Luxembourg, post WWII! A nostalgic memory of my youth! The >> only alternative, then, to the 'stodgy' BBC! > >Stodgy? If you're including the BBC World Service it has always been, and >continues to be, a class act IMHO. (I'm glad they didn't pull the plug on >their shortwave service a couple of years back.) Often wish some of our >American news organizations were of the same caliber. Perhaps like CNN of >20-25 years ago. Sincerely, > >John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil >Naval Research Laboratory >4555 Overlook Avenue, SW >Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 333392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:14:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0nav42hb8ottdm79rn1qmn7p4jnick3crg@4ax.com> <1146098390.615193.191120@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 26 Apr 2006 17:39:50 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >no thanks- > >want cheaper gas ? > >cut the taxes to ZERO Want a better Usenet? Turn in Charlie Nudo for SPAM! http://groups.google.com/groups?q=eBay+epix+yahoo+%22STOP+THIS%22&start=0&scoring=d&num=30&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=24&as_minm=4&as_miny=2006&as_maxd=26&as_maxm=4&as_maxy=2006&safe=off&filter=0 Gee, Noodles...isn't looking good for you again, is it? Article: 333393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:22:17 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146098512.791454.41850@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 26 Apr 2006 17:41:52 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >ps- bottom line, the government is putting the rod to us on gas prices, >worse than any oil company is- and at least the oil companies do some >work and get the oil and refine it to gas- the government does- nothing In that case, the local officials should ban you from driving on ANY public road, since you fully believe your fuel tax dollars do "nothing." You can tool around Beech Creek Septic Mudpuddle Estates (with the unsafe dam) in your illegally modified '87 Pontiac on private roads all you want...dimwit. Every one of your spam posts in groups not accepting ads went to eBay security, Noodles. Another straw on your camel's back. Article: 333394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Cartridge recorder Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:54:00 GMT Someone here was looking for these a while back. Lost their email. Here's a nice-looking one if they're still here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9717492380 Article: 333395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jack Webster" Subject: radio years Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:24:24 -0600 Message-ID: <445038a3$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> I have a question I realise that most radio's that say they were made in 1946 were actually made 1n 45 But were there any that claimed 1945 and if so does anyone know what models ?? THx jtr@oanet.com Article: 333396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44503D25.3AE782F7@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:41:17 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > With respect to high oil prices -- everyone is at fault. > > Too many Americans insist on owning large, fuel-hungry vehicles. So, are you saying that i should feel guilty for using under seven gallons of gas a month? I have been averaging $20 a month lately at $3 a gallon. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Stromberg-Carlson expert please! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1145908705.314596.154230@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1146091139.769723.277340@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:55:03 GMT In article <1146091139.769723.277340@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, rjsoftware2000@yahoo.com says... > > Well that be ME .. agree with Mark.. I also have about 15 to 20 of these things around in various states of Dis Repair ... but none that match the one you have.. My Opinion .... find a completely different changer.... a VM .. one that works... This one is newer... servicable and it works... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6624113295 John Goller , k9uwa Article: 333398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:11:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1uj052ph5kcceq1uft16gb2b3th2inahta@4ax.com> References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:59:24 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >It's a bit of a shame because I happen to like furniture. I don't like >having knock-together shelves in my living room with black boxes sitting on >them. As it is, I have a gorgeous Heathkit/Zenith console TV (another >concept that's going the way of the dodo bird) whose beauty is marred by a >bunch of these boxes that have to sit on top of it. There's a VCR, a >combination VCR and DVD player, and a satellite receiver -- I wish a cabinet >for these would be available so I can put these away, but no -- they must >sit on top of the TV. I do have a fairly nice cabinet for the stereo >(shelves with a glass door), but even that has been relegated to another >room. I'm not a furniture maker, but who knows -- I might start. I'd like >a nice credenza for the stereo/video components to be inside of. Then there >are the remotes . . . You would've LOVED the Barzalay consoles built for LA's rich and famous in the late '50s through around 1970. These were custom built furniture grade consoles, in which the Barzalay people would stuff various high quality components of the day, including McIntosh, Fisher, Scott...whatever the buyer would choose. They'd either have Altec or JBL raw frame drivers mounted in their end enclosures. Unfortunately, none of the Barzalay installations I worked on had very good bass reflex enclosures beyond the old "square hole in the face plate" tuned to the woofer's Fs, and although the speakers were of the highest quality, their mounting and enclosure was not. They were also well known for improperly sealing the enclosures, leading to "whizzes and rattles" in the bass region. Toward the end, Barzalay started using top-end Kenwood receivers, and their popularity among the Hollywood elite went on the wane. True what you wrote about the garden variety "consoles," like the one Noodles seems to be collecting, thinking he's again on the cusp of some brilliant marketing scam...they were garbage. In the early '60s, most were passable grade furniture in all the styles of the era, similar to what Hammond used in their later "living room" organs and all TV manufacturers were doing on their high end models. However, the idea of electronics and furniture was largely over by around 1970, largely because of the unparalleled success of the Fisher and other receivers, such as Scott and Harman-Kardon. Once it became apparant to buyers that furniture had nothing to do with quality of sound, compoenent systems became (and still are) the norm, and the furniture went away. However, there was something to be said about a console that could house two Heath W5-Ms, the PAT preamp, a Thorens TD-124, with separate enclosures for the huge Jensen-based "range extender" corner loaded bass reflex speaker systems. This wasn't really a "console," it was "hi-fi furniture" that Heath sold to house all their components. My dad has his from 1956 to 1975, going through many different inhabitant, including the aforementioned Heath stuff, a 500C, a Fisher 700, a Berlant Concertone and many other things. It was morphed from "blond modern" in '56, to "Spanish Mediterranean" around 1968, to "casual French" around '73, and then retired. I had a Heath GR-53 (RCA vertical chassis, 21" round CRT) for over 25 years. It was a good set, better than most storebought sets. It was the first consumer TV I ever saw with a line level output to be fed into a stereo preamp. It was sure fun learning NTSC video as a kid on that thing! It was far less fun to routinely degauss and converge it. Article: 333399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44505289.87815829@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OH, for crying out loud References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:12:36 GMT Steven wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > What in the hell are you doing in aus.electronics with the desertbob > > > show? They must think you're a nice f***up now. > > > > > > I think Australians are smarter than you think, and they think we're a > > > bit retarded sometimes telling them what to do. > > > > > > Any more career-enhancing moves? > > > > > > Bite me, dumbass! > > Kinky sex and torture for recreation and very off-topic in this > newsgroup. > > I'm not submissive anyway. Really, I never would've guessed you to be > that way. We don't want to hear about your deviated sexual fantasies, Skippy, so stop projecting your problems on others. > Keep digging, you're making good progress digging that hole. > > You must sit there with a red forehead waiting to shoot yourself in the > foot again. I have never been shot, but I have had a gun held to my head by an idiot cop. > > > > -- > > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > > prove it. > > Mental disability, I suppose. You're projecting, again, Skippy! > > Member of DAV #85. > > When's the parade? On Veterans day, of course. WAFM ;-) Its a privilege you'll never have, you psychotic retread. > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > go join the other old people who have fun actually What's wrong, Skippy? You are so screwed up that you can't even finish a rambling sentence? I have a lot of fun shooting trolls in a barrel, and its open "Skippy Season" -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Cartridge recorder Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:13:17 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:54:00 GMT, "Rune" wrote: >Someone here was looking for these a while back. Lost their email. Here's a >nice-looking one if they're still here: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9717492380 A NICE example! This was the later system, not to be confused with RCA's earlier cartridge system that was a complete sales disaster. Article: 333401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44506286.47AAC19A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Cartridge recorder References: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:20:52 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:54:00 GMT, "Rune" > wrote: > > >Someone here was looking for these a while back. Lost their email. Here's a > >nice-looking one if they're still here: > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9717492380 > > A NICE example! This was the later system, not to be confused with > RCA's earlier cartridge system that was a complete sales disaster. A local school board dumped all of theirs about 15 years ago and they were availible for a couple dollars each. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Cartridge recorder Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:30:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <44506286.47AAC19A@earthlink.net> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:20:52 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > A local school board dumped all of theirs about 15 years ago and they >were availible for a couple dollars each. I don't recall seeing ANY of these outside of schools, really, whereas the earlier "changer" system was supposed to be a home stereo addition. Article: 333403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: <1146091554.957786.174200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Regen Question Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:22:51 -0700 Do you have a small variable capacitor 100 mmfd or less in series with the antenna and the connection to the input coil ? Sometimes it is necessary to reduce the antenna's loading effect on the regen system. k35454. wrote in message news:1146091554.957786.174200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... II was wondering if ya'll could help me with an issue that I am having with a regen receiver that I built. I built the usual regen circuit with two stages of audio coupled with interstage transformers. The regeneration is controlled by a pot which varies the plate regen voltage. The grid leak combination is a 6 Mohm resistor and 45 pf cap. The regen and first audio stage tubes are 1H5GT triodes. The second stage audio tube is a 1C5GT pentode. The filament voltage is 1.4 volts, plate voltage is 90 volts and screen voltage for the 1C6GT tube is 90 volts. The set easily and cleanly drives a speaker. I have wound my own coils which cover the broadcast band up to about 15 Mhz. I really like the way the set operates and it is very sensitive. My problem is that the regeneration often fades out. (the radio essentially goes dead) and I have to touch the grid of the regen tube to bring it back in. I had originally built this radio only having one stage of audio and I did not have this problem with that version. It's kind of like the charge on the grid builds up too high and I have to "drain" it off with my finger. Sorry for the bad description--I'm obviously not an engineer. I usually power the radio with a battery eliminator that I rebuilt, but the same problem exists even when I use only batteries. For a ground, I am using the mains ground. This group was very helpful when I had transformer coupling issues with the speaker and I'm hoping that you can give me some ideas again. Thanks to all of you in advance. Dan Article: 333404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <8_udnRhPlqkuE9LZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Restoration tip #2 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:01:41 GMT Radiomobile is a British brand name. Some import Triumphs and MG's have radios in them made by Radiomobile. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:aob052d2hcq4ee731ju59gt7j9sndtfmm0@4ax.com... > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:04:02 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > >>Mark, >> >>I'll have to send you the next Radiomobile I get. On many of these, the >>FM >>band is backwards, with 88 to the right! Go figure! > > Gary, > I don't know what a radiomobile is or how fast it can go, but I had a > Zenith radio with the same problem. FM was backwards, AM was correct > and they both worked off the same dial string. > > Turns out it was one of the 2 slugs that move in and out of coils as > the tuner is rotated. One of the slugs had broken loose from the glue > they used to hold it in place on the flexible cable and slid down too > far into the coil, throwing the tuning off. I pulled it back up to the > glue residue left on the shaft and the radio was in tune again with > the dial no longer reversed. Super glue stuck it back in place again. > > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 333405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Cartridge recorder Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:19:32 GMT "Rune" wrote in message news:cnW3g.34486$cY3.13201@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... > Someone here was looking for these a while back. Lost their email. Here's > a nice-looking one if they're still here: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9717492380 > That was me. I've heard nothing but horror stories from people about trying to get them to work, so I'm a little leery about adding one to my collection now. It wouldn't be any fun to have one if I couldn't use it. :) -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 333406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: OT. relay question References: <1146140872.427772.274630@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:59:00 -0400 You should use a capacitor, or a cap-resistor in series. A cap will damp the arcs as the contacts chatter on close or open. Ken Eddie Brimer wrote: > when choosing a relay with spike suppression, would you rather have a > resistor or diode?...and why? also, does anyone know of a micro 5 pin > relay rated at 40-50 amps? lastly...does anyone know where i can find a > male plug that has the same pin arrangement as a 5 pin micro relay? > > thanks, > eddie > Article: 333407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "oldfogie" References: <1Fd3g.19824$Kn4.4697@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Victrolas Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:04:01 -0500 "George Conklin" wrote in message news:kDI3g.1288$Vn.962@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... "oldfogie" wrote in message news:1Fd3g.19824$Kn4.4697@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > I just found this forum, and though it's named radio+phono, seems to be > almost nothing about phonos, or wind up record players. > Does anyone know of a forum dedicated to wind-up Victrolas, etc? > I just obtained a Victor VE8-30X victrola, and one or more parts are > missing. It uses an electric motor instead of wind-up. One thing I know is > missing is the brake. And there is a speed adjustment knob on the top near > the turntable, but there is nothing underneath it. > I would appreciate any info on victrola parts places, and any forums for old > phonos/record players. > Thanks, Malcolm B. > > At one time we had a lot of posters on phonographs but most people get their questions answered quickly and move on. If you want to know how to repair phonographs, you need to buy Eric Reiss' book "The Compleat Talking Machine" available from many places like the Antique Phonograph Supply Company (google them). Thanks for the other replies, will check the suggestions out. Article: 333408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "oldfogie" References: <1Fd3g.19824$Kn4.4697@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Victrolas Message-ID: <5o34g.18889$MM6.5552@bignews3.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:09:31 -0500 I was kind of worried about the motor, since it obviously isn't the original disc motor, so I put it back together and checked the speed, got about 72 rpm. Hopefully when I get the motor bearings, turntable shaft and idler cleaned and oiled the speed will be about right. Article: 333409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! (and new tip) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:37:48 -0400 Message-ID: <1251iavqmkpp129@corp.supernews.com> References: <124r0og4esejlcb@corp.supernews.com> <124ssfejuc8i370@corp.supernews.com> "Carter-K8VT" wrote in message news:OTR3g.56359$_S7.32212@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > > Interesting comment, as contact cement for veneer was traditionally > used for *years* (along with the notorious "J"-roller) before yellow glue > was invented and is still being used by many today. > "Contact cement doesn't give and stretch like some adhesives, so it's not always the best choice for veneering." (from http://www.woodezine.com/07_2004/0704_glue.html) "Contact cement has little use in high quality veneering. It will hold briefly, but within a short time frame, it can blister and bubble." (from http://www.joewoodworker.com/veneering/glues.htm) "I really, really didn't want to use contact cement to apply veneer. I read all of the posts telling me why I should use contact cement. But, I really, really didn't want to use contact cement! Contact cement is hazardous to your health. It is messy to work with. It is unforgiving of positioning errors, and there is some concern about its long term stability." (from http://www.geocities.com/rbrines1/Pages/Veneering.html) "I have experience with just this sort of problem, and it's the general consensus that most woodworkers don't use contact cement with veneer. " "And to address the other part of your question- YES, the contact cement will affect the finish of the veneer, even using a paper backed product. It often tends to bleed thru the pores of the wood, so achieving a good finish is difficult. Another reason not to use it!" (from http://experts.about.com/q/Home-Improvement-Building-1468/Veneer-cement-finish.htm) Article: 333410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:53:10 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146131203.558468.97590@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146142587.975769.133670@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Apr 2006 05:56:28 -0700, "Dave" wrote: >I am from Australia, and it is a great country. And the Dick Smith >Store has got excellent quality products. I always buy my stuff there, >(hi-fi,DVD,VCR, etc.) It is a bit cold here as its coming on winter, >but you should feel the heat in summer, around 25 to 30 sometimes as >high as 38 degrees celsius. I live south of Sydney down the coast in >Wollongong. The Ozzies are fine people...better than most Americans these days. They're also smart enough, as are the Canucks, not to put a complete moron into a position of power, as Americans have. Article: 333411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:56:21 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 27 Apr 2006 03:50:00 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >It's common knowledge that if you gut one of those and use the internal >amp, you get really good sound on the cheap- better than the consumer >hi-fi made in China crap that's out today. Find a single ended amp in >one, and you have a diamond in the rough. "Common knowledge" among morons, maybe. >The fella on the net that bought the SS unit from me, actually had >found a local market in his area for these units, once he put them in >attactive cabinets. Most of these consoles can be bought for $10 or >so. How can you go wrong ? They are great to tinker with. The old >electrolytic caps in them alone are worth that, for parts. The old electrolytic caps are PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE, Noodles. Here, I have a chore for you to do. Take all the old electrolytic capacitors out of all the junk you have laying around your hovel. Wire them in series. Charge them all to the lowest rated voltage in the parallel string. Place one hand on the outer shell of the largest one. Lick the interconnect lead with the other. With any luck, you'll die, and we'll be rid of you. Article: 333412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:57:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1146012160.510208.63890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146063909.119985.54600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44503D25.3AE782F7@earthlink.net> <1146112492.970231.260640@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1146135197.492188.256280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 27 Apr 2006 03:53:17 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >A recent survey of emergency room doctors and nurses, showed that the >majority of them drive big luxury cars or SUV's. Reason- they see the >people who come in from accidents- the people in small cars- die. The >people in large cars- survive. Another Noodles lie. The NHTSB proves your wrong..again. Article: 333413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT. relay question Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1146140872.427772.274630@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1146143971.171892.40160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1146143971.171892.40160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >Ken wrote: >> You should use a capacitor, or a cap-resistor in series. A cap will damp >> the arcs as the contacts chatter on close or open. Ken >> >> Eddie Brimer wrote: >> >> > when choosing a relay with spike suppression, would you rather have a >> > resistor or diode?...and why? also, does anyone know of a micro 5 pin >> > relay rated at 40-50 amps? lastly...does anyone know where i can find a >> > male plug that has the same pin arrangement as a 5 pin micro relay? >> > >> > thanks, >> > eddie >> > >the resistor or diode is made in with the relay. are you saying i >should ad a cap too? A diode would be in parallel with the coil to absorb the inductive kick and protect whatever's driving the relay. The caps Ken mentioned would be in parallel with the contacts to provide RF suppression. Whether or not you need the caps depends on how much electrical noise the surrounding circuitry, inside and outside the box, can tolerate. To answer the original question, I've always used a diode across the coil to damp the flyback pulse. Make sure you observe polarity when hooking up the coil! The cathode of the built-in diode should go to the positive side of the coil drive voltage. I can't think of any reason to use a resistor. It'll waste drive power and won't be as effective in damping the voltage pulse when coil current is removed. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 333414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4450D703.F4381FD2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Cartridge recorder References: <44506286.47AAC19A@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:38:00 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:20:52 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > wrote: > > > A local school board dumped all of theirs about 15 years ago and they > >were availible for a couple dollars each. > > I don't recall seeing ANY of these outside of schools, really, whereas > the earlier "changer" system was supposed to be a home stereo > addition. 3M also made a cartridge system that they sold only to schools, to keep people from stealing the tapes. There were supposed to be a lot of education tapes released, but I only saw a couple of them when I was in school. the rest were worn out cartridges that the teachers used till they wore out. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 07:40:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:56:21 -0700, DeserTBoB wrote: >The old electrolytic caps are PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE, Noodles. Here, >I have a chore for you to do. Take all the old electrolytic >capacitors out of all the junk you have laying around your hovel. Wire >them in series. Should be parallel...sorry. We DO want you to do this, Noodles. Love it when air-wasiting morons kill themselves. It's called "evolution"..."natural selection." It's nature's way of deleting its screw-ups. Article: 333416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: OT. relay question References: <1146140872.427772.274630@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1146143971.171892.40160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:09:34 GMT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090508060109080402050209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Mullen wrote: >In <1146143971.171892.40160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: > > > >>Ken wrote: >> >> >>>You should use a capacitor, or a cap-resistor in series. A cap will damp >>>the arcs as the contacts chatter on close or open. Ken >>> >>>Eddie Brimer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>when choosing a relay with spike suppression, would you rather have a >>>>resistor or diode?...and why? also, does anyone know of a micro 5 pin >>>>relay rated at 40-50 amps? lastly...does anyone know where i can find a >>>>male plug that has the same pin arrangement as a 5 pin micro relay? >>>> >>>>thanks, >>>>eddie >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > >>the resistor or diode is made in with the relay. are you saying i >>should ad a cap too? >> >> > > A diode would be in parallel with the coil to absorb the inductive >kick and protect whatever's driving the relay. The caps Ken mentioned >would be in parallel with the contacts to provide RF suppression. >Whether or not you need the caps depends on how much electrical noise >the surrounding circuitry, inside and outside the box, can tolerate. > > To answer the original question, I've always used a diode across >the coil to damp the flyback pulse. Make sure you observe polarity >when hooking up the coil! The cathode of the built-in diode should >go to the positive side of the coil drive voltage. > > I can't think of any reason to use a resistor. It'll waste drive >power and won't be as effective in damping the voltage pulse when >coil current is removed. > > > A resistor and capacitor, in series, across the coil can be used to reduce the inductive kick. The diode across the coil will also reduce the inductive kick but will slow the release time of the relay. This may be a problem in timing critical circuits. Bill K7NOM --------------090508060109080402050209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Mullen wrote:
In <1146143971.171892.40160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" <eb062559@aol.com> writes:

  
Ken wrote:
    
You should use a capacitor, or a cap-resistor in series. A cap will damp
the arcs as the contacts chatter on close or open. Ken

Eddie Brimer wrote:

      
when choosing a relay with spike suppression, would you rather have a
resistor or diode?...and why? also, does anyone know of a micro 5 pin
relay rated at 40-50 amps? lastly...does anyone know where i can find a
male plug that has the same pin arrangement as a 5 pin micro relay?

thanks,
eddie

        

  
the resistor or diode is made in with the relay.  are you saying i
should ad a cap too?
    

   A diode would be in parallel with the coil to absorb the inductive
kick and protect whatever's driving the relay.  The caps Ken mentioned
would be in parallel with the contacts to provide RF suppression.
Whether or not you need the caps depends on how much electrical noise
the surrounding circuitry, inside and outside the box, can tolerate.

   To answer the original question, I've always used a diode across
the coil to damp the flyback pulse.  Make sure you observe polarity
when hooking up the coil!  The cathode of the built-in diode should
go to the positive side of the coil drive voltage.

   I can't think of any reason to use a resistor.  It'll waste drive
power and won't be as effective in damping the voltage pulse when
coil current is removed.

  
A resistor and capacitor, in series, across the coil can be used to reduce the inductive kick.
The diode across the coil will also reduce the inductive kick but will slow the release time
of the relay. This may be a problem in timing critical circuits.

Bill K7NOM
--------------090508060109080402050209-- Article: 333417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4450E06D.DFC79228@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:18:11 GMT Dave wrote: > > I am from Australia, and it is a great country. And the Dick Smith > Store has got excellent quality products. I always buy my stuff there, > (hi-fi,DVD,VCR, etc.) It is a bit cold here as its coming on winter, > but you should feel the heat in summer, around 25 to 30 sometimes as > high as 38 degrees celsius. I live south of Sydney down the coast in > Wollongong. DSE had some stores in the US for a few years, and they had a lot of problems getting things from Australia, whether it was from low sales production or bad management was never revealed, but they closed their US stores rather than fix their problems here. I bought the DSE ESR meter kit a couple years ago, and use it quite a lot. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4450E0E4.3E78861E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT. relay question References: <1146140872.427772.274630@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:20:09 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > > when choosing a relay with spike suppression, would you rather have a > resistor or diode?...and why? also, does anyone know of a micro 5 pin > relay rated at 40-50 amps? lastly...does anyone know where i can find a > male plug that has the same pin arrangement as a 5 pin micro relay? > > thanks, > eddie How about one of the "Fog lamp" or "Driving light" relays? Some even come with a socket. You could open and gut the bad relay and use it and the new socket to make an adapter harness. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4450E2E6.47BCA962@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:28:44 GMT Steven wrote: > > I'm ashamed of you. Then you keep trying to claim it was you and only > you that lost me internet service last year. Why were YOU off the > internet for over a year? Ashamed of me? You have no right to make that claim. If you truly had any shame it would be for your own actions and lies. Like I told everyone, I was running out of money My savings were depleted, and I wasn't on welfare like you, so I had to economize. You, on the other hand got yourself pitched off srvinet.com because enough people care about this newsgroup to have your account pulled. Plain and simple, its all your fault as usual, Skippy. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! (and new tip) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:25:17 -0400 Message-ID: <1251s3i8kvd9b83@corp.supernews.com> References: <124r0og4esejlcb@corp.supernews.com> <124ssfejuc8i370@corp.supernews.com> <1251iavqmkpp129@corp.supernews.com> Some of these sources think yellow glue is not creep resistant enough for veneer as well though. But my experience has been it works very well for single surfaces and patchwork. For reveneering a whole floor model or nearly so I'd definitely invest in real veneer grade PVA glue (thicker and dries harder). But then again most of the time that's not justified- you just get another cabinet if possible. John H. Article: 333421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DSL NAME" References: <8LL3g.8273$lb.748171@news1.epix.net> <35S3g.2532$Ci.1299@trnddc05> Subject: Re: Question about the Kutztown Radio meet Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:32:16 GMT Well it sounds like I missed out on this years fun at least - the pavillion is sold out. Besides, I really couldnt do a Fri night show due to work schedule. Are there any other nearby shows coming up in the next few months? I have an assortment of items Id like to get rid of and don't want to deal with the hassle of ebaying the larger/heavier/more fragile stuff. Old 78's, old radios (console & table), some vintage components, tubes, etc. Maybe even some old computer stuff. My ideal venue would be a combined hamfest and antique radio show. Anything like that in the north east pa/ northwet NJ areas?? Is there a web page for this stuff? thanks, Dave "Robert Mozeleski" wrote in message news:35S3g.2532$Ci.1299@trnddc05... > That's funny, it was probably me. Won't be selling this year, have to work. Most of the stuff will get sold on the friday if you > price it right. Lots of the sellers only set up on friday, then cover up the items and are gone until early sat morning. > > > Last year I bought some stuff from one > > guy who was apparently sleeping in the back of his pickup truck. Is this > > the thing to do? And if you could only get there Sat morning, would it even > > be worth it, since you missed out on Friday's action? Just curious if > > anyone else had experience with this... > > > > Dave > > > > > > Article: 333422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4450FAEF.7BBF6D00@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT. relay question References: <1146140872.427772.274630@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:10:06 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > > why does your post have a snip from an email from dinius from 2005? Because he is harassing me again and denying that he made the call he admitted to in that message. -- HELP! My sig file has escaped! ;-) Article: 333423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Todd Tuckey" Subject: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:07:17 GMT Hi folks...I have an RCA color 21 inch TV round tube--made in late 50's --model 21-CS-7815 that actually works...good shape...also have a 10 inch floor model, RCA model #9-TC-247 and a 10 inch table model 2-T-51..both light up but do not really work...I live in northeast Philly PA and am selling the family home (my parents bought these TV's new) after living here for 50 years! Not taking them with us! could pallet and ship by truck, but this would be expensive...let me know! Todd Tuckey tntquality@aol.com website is www.tntamusements.com (I sell pinball machines and arcade video games--could very well work out a swap too if you have any! Article: 333424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Todd Tuckey" Subject: FS: "Cinebox" jukebox--like Scopitone--runs films Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:11:58 GMT Got this in trade....its a monster...still has a 16mm film in it (this plays 30 16mm films jukebox style, with a 25 inch movie screen in the top...its model Cinebox 1786...complete but machine will need lots of work to restore it, still has one technicolor musical Go Away Little Girl in it too. A fabulous project for someone...$500 takes it away! Look at website www.scopitone.com to get any idea what this film jukebox is. We have not dared to plug it in. Todd from TNT Amusements We are near Philly PA www.tntamusements.com Our email address is tntquality@aol.com Article: 333425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: CHECK the Shipping First Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:54:05 -0400 Message-ID: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> And better get the gallon of glue- http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-tubetype-Mayfair-wooden-radio-for-repair_W0QQitemZ6624632449 John H. Article: 333426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Speaking of shipping Message-ID: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:55:48 GMT I just sent a box via USPS that was 17x17x18 and they added an extra $5 for the size. It didn't weigh much and the postal clerk who I know pretty good said it was something they just started to enforce. Article: 333427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:01:44 GMT It's $108 to NY! It's too far gone(and far away) for me anyway. If he ships it with the speaker in the cabinet you will need more than glue! Hagstar wrote: > And better get the gallon of glue- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-tubetype-Mayfair-wooden-radio-for-repair_W0QQitemZ6624632449 > > John H. > > Article: 333428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: $9.99 radio but $171.5 for shipping :) funny... Message-ID: References: <1146165932.360580.163060@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:11:37 GMT On 27 Apr 2006 12:25:32 -0700, siliconvalleyEE@gmail.com wrote: >Oh well, some people is out there to make money I guess... >Ebay item: >6622989749 > It is also an impermissable type of eBay auction, offering the choice of non-identical items. The auction of choice of Chinese electronic magazines was terminated for that reason. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 333429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:19:39 GMT "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > >I just sent a box via USPS that was 17x17x18 and they added an extra $5 for the >size. It didn't weigh much and the postal clerk who I know pretty good said it was >something they just started to enforce. > Some of the packages I sent recently were cheaper going Priority rather than Parcel Post due to the oversize charges on the latter. jim menning Article: 333430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:28:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:07:17 GMT, "Todd Tuckey" wrote: >Hi folks...I have an RCA color 21 inch TV round tube--made in late >50's --model 21-CS-7815 that actually works...good shape. 1956, to be exact. Not much red in those, though...rare earth phosphors didn't show up until '63; best you can hope for is 'brown." Don't know how those earlier horizontal chassis worked with the later tubes, though. Amazing that it's still serviceable. Ususally the flybacks went south on those with regularity. Article: 333431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44512DB6.599AE7C0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:46:45 GMT Steven wrote: > Another wild rant. Thank you Skippy for more evidence for me to turn over to the police when the time comes. -- HELP! My sig file has escaped! ;-) Article: 333432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <5aa4g.4270$TT.1381@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:52:17 GMT Well I had him do both and the oversize charge was less for the Parcel. Maybe I should have checked with the UPS store but it wasn't that big a deal. I could have used a smaller box but it was a rather rare horn speaker that used a pair of headphones for the driver and I wanted it to survive. jim menning wrote: > "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message > news:8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> I just sent a box via USPS that was 17x17x18 and they added an extra $5 for the >> size. It didn't weigh much and the postal clerk who I know pretty good said it was >> something they just started to enforce. >> > > Some of the packages I sent recently were cheaper going Priority rather than Parcel > Post due to the oversize charges on the latter. > > jim menning > > Article: 333433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:52:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4450E2E6.47BCA962@earthlink.net> <1146169788.701844.47890@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44512DB6.599AE7C0@earthlink.net> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:46:45 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > Thank you Skippy for more evidence for me to turn over to the police >when the time comes. Have them pick up Noodles when they pick up Skippy, too...sort of a "twofer." Maybe they can share a padded cell. From adouglasatgis.net Sat Apr 29 12:53:05 EDT 2006 Article: 333434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Gernsback Official Radio Service Manuals Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:46:14 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-256.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:333434 Hi, Gernsback did include a few manufacturers pages that Rider left out, but the best pages are the ones copied from Radio Craft magazine that covered a particular set, with a redrawn schematic. Alan -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 333435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:22:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1252h0gjsrrfeeb@corp.supernews.com> References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> <1146176088.429636.83550@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> nc183d@aol.com wrote: > How did they do that? The UPS ground for that set CAN'T really be that > high! > Mark S. > Do I win? 243.32 to zip 00765. That should be enough to cover his "costs". -Bill Article: 333436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:34:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1252hn1p48uej16@corp.supernews.com> References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Lou deGonzague wrote: > I just sent a box via USPS that was 17x17x18 and they added an extra $5 > for the size. It didn't weigh much and the postal clerk who I know > pretty good said it was something they just started to enforce. I think you got stung, Lou. The Oversize rate shouldn't apply on that sized box. One of the clerks in the PO here is a nazi about oversized packages and always measures my stuff :( And when you really do hit oversized the cost goes thru the roof, not just $5! From the USPS site...Oversized Package Use for packages when the length of the longest side plus the distance around the thickest part is more than 108 inches and less than or equal to 130 inches. Items over 130 inches are not mailable. Article: 333437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Verne Folk Subject: Philco 37-116 X w/auto tuning Date: 27 Apr 2006 15:17:50 -0700 Message-ID: I'm thinking of bringing this complete recaped/pro-refinished unit to Kutztown but have no idea whatsoever as to setting the asking price. Can anyone give me some advise? Verne -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 333438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <4Rb4g.211730$Oe2.30987@fed1read07> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:46:29 -0700 Hell, it's $105 to his own home town! Since the amount covers "shipping and handling", my guess is that he is charging $100 for "handling". Only the remainder is for shipping. Bill ================== Lou deGonzague wrote: > It's $108 to NY! It's too far gone(and far away) for me anyway. If he > ships it with the speaker in the cabinet you will need more than glue! > > Hagstar wrote: > >> And better get the gallon of glue- >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-tubetype-Mayfair-wooden-radio-for-repair_W0QQitemZ6624632449 >> >> >> John H. >> Article: 333439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <1252hn1p48uej16@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Message-ID: <3_b4g.3419$Bh.3058@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:55:59 GMT "- exray -" wrote in message news:1252hn1p48uej16@corp.supernews.com... > Lou deGonzague wrote: >> I just sent a box via USPS that was 17x17x18 and they added an extra $5 for the >> size. It didn't weigh much and the postal clerk who I know pretty good said it was >> something they just started to enforce. > > I think you got stung, Lou. The Oversize rate shouldn't apply on that sized box. > One of the clerks in the PO here is a nazi about oversized packages and always > measures my stuff :( > > And when you really do hit oversized the cost goes thru the roof, not just $5! > > From the USPS site...Oversized Package > > Use for packages when the length of the longest side plus the distance around the > thickest part is more than 108 inches and less than or equal to 130 inches. Items > over 130 inches are not mailable. Also from the USPS site: Parcel Post Extra Postage Extra postage is required for Parcel Post service when you are mailing: a.. a can, roll, or tube. b.. a package less than 6 inches long or 1/4 inch thick or 3 inches wide. c.. more than 34 inches long or 17 inches high or 17 inches wide. d.. books and other printed materials weighing over 25 pounds. e.. a package with more than 24 ounces of liquid in one or more glass containers. f.. a package with 1 gallon or more of liquid in metal or plastic containers. g.. a metal-strapped or metal-banded box. h.. an insecurely wrapped, unwrapped, paper-wrapped, or sleeve-wrapped article. i.. a metal or wood box. The box I wanted to ship the other day was 18 by 18 by 4 and 9 lbs. Priority was cheaper than parcel post. jm menning Article: 333440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:12:29 +0900 Message-ID: References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> <4Rb4g.211730$Oe2.30987@fed1read07> "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:4Rb4g.211730$Oe2.30987@fed1read07... > Hell, it's $105 to his own home town! Since the amount covers "shipping > and handling", my guess is that he is charging $100 for "handling". Only > the remainder is for shipping. The seller is obviously charging some humongous handling charges.. but what I don't understand is why it's so much more to ship to FL than it is to the west coast ($114 to the west coast) Article: 333441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:16:17 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <1252hn1p48uej16@corp.supernews.com> "- exray -" wrote in message news:1252hn1p48uej16@corp.supernews.com... > Lou deGonzague wrote: >> I just sent a box via USPS that was 17x17x18 and they added an extra $5 >> for the size. It didn't weigh much and the postal clerk who I know pretty >> good said it was something they just started to enforce. > > I think you got stung, Lou. The Oversize rate shouldn't apply on that > sized box. One of the clerks in the PO here is a nazi about oversized > packages and always measures my stuff :( > > And when you really do hit oversized the cost goes thru the roof, not just > $5! > > From the USPS site...Oversized Package > > Use for packages when the length of the longest side plus the distance > around the thickest part is more than 108 inches and less than or equal to > 130 inches. Items over 130 inches are not mailable. They also have some new arbitrary thing about 64 inches (girth plus longest side) where they charge an 'oversize' tax.. they just started doing that when the new postal rates went into effect in January. Since then, they've measured all but the smallest of my packages, and charged the fee for stuff that never even got a second glance before. Article: 333442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <1252hn1p48uej16@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:02:27 GMT I just checked the online calculator and it seems he is right. I have known Frank for years and I know he would not rip me off. - exray - wrote: > Lou deGonzague wrote: >> I just sent a box via USPS that was 17x17x18 and they added an extra >> $5 for the size. It didn't weigh much and the postal clerk who I know >> pretty good said it was something they just started to enforce. > > I think you got stung, Lou. The Oversize rate shouldn't apply on that > sized box. One of the clerks in the PO here is a nazi about oversized > packages and always measures my stuff :( > > And when you really do hit oversized the cost goes thru the roof, not > just $5! > > From the USPS site...Oversized Package > > Use for packages when the length of the longest side plus the distance > around the thickest part is more than 108 inches and less than or equal > to 130 inches. Items over 130 inches are not mailable. Article: 333443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:04:30 -0400 Message-ID: <1252n0jrhft827b@corp.supernews.com> References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> <1146177399.401567.197850@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1146177399.401567.197850@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > How did they do that? The UPS ground for that set CAN'T really be that > high! The eBay Shipping Calculator allows inclusion of any handling fee you want in addition to actual postage required. This fellow entered something like $95- obviously. Nothing in their software makes a call on what is a reasonable handling fee, because they don't know the FINAL price which maybe would justify $100- in handling. If I were selling a really fragile valuable item on eBay like a heavy vase or painting that might easily be the cost of packing materials and labor. Someone has to report unreasonable handling fees for the eBay town fathers to even know about them. John H. Article: 333444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! (and new tip) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:06:40 -0400 Message-ID: <1252n4ltgkfgp9f@corp.supernews.com> References: <124r0og4esejlcb@corp.supernews.com> <124ssfejuc8i370@corp.supernews.com> Sorry, Carter, I shouldn't have taken it personally. John H. Article: 333445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44516459.48C29062@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4450E2E6.47BCA962@earthlink.net> <1146169788.701844.47890@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44512DB6.599AE7C0@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:41:12 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:46:45 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > wrote: > > > Thank you Skippy for more evidence for me to turn over to the police > >when the time comes. > > Have them pick up Noodles when they pick up Skippy, too...sort of a > "twofer." Maybe they can share a padded cell. They would bore each other to death in days. :( -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Anyone want a Miraco console in Kutztown? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:20:14 GMT I have a Miraco lowboy, it may be a 4219... Its about 1931-33 or so.. Anyone interested? its unrestored and in decent shape except the top is warped but can be straightened. Its a solid wood set.... kinda unusual, never seen another but it doesnt "move" me so I can bring it down to Kutztown in somebody wants it. I had it working 15 years ago but wouldnt guarentee it anymore I can send a picture if desired... $30 Keith Article: 333447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Mess-ages Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:56:25 GMT Since I now realize I have an unused Mindspring account piggybacked onto Earthlink, I decided to see what I've got in there for e-mail. As you know, I'm now using the Mindspring address for reading these newsgroups, as Earthlink STILL hasn't fixed the newsgroup problem with my normal address. Well, I had over 6,000 messages! How many of these were legitimate? One. >From Bill Turner, bless his heart. He had some information about TO batteries, and apparently did a simply reply to my recent newsgroup post. For the time being, you can send me messages either way -- mindspring.com or gate.net. However don't bother putting either of these into your address books, as I'll soon be telling Earthlink, "You're FIRED!" I'm signing up with Verizon. I'll certainly let everyone know when I officially pull the switch. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 333448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Mess-ages Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:17:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 01:56:25 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >For the time being, you can send me messages either way -- mindspring.com or >gate.net. However don't bother putting either of these into your address >books, as I'll soon be telling Earthlink, "You're FIRED!" I'm signing up >with Verizon. I'll certainly let everyone know when I officially pull the >switch. You should've known from the git go that "EarthFink" is a subsidiary of the Scientology competitor, Mindspring, which is another pseudoreligious fraud that attracted a LOT of members back around 10-15 years ago. EarthFink managerial positions are filled with "Mindspringers," whose brains have been scrambled by the weirdness of that faux religion...as if any of them AREN'T faux, but that's another byline for another time. EarthFink = Income source for Mindspring whackos...stay WAY far away. Article: 333449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> In Shawn K writes: >WHOA!!! Shipping to his own zip code is almost $106!! That's outrageous! That's karma for ya -- it'll cost him a bunch if it doesn't sell. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 333450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:26:51 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:28:30 -0700, DeserTBoB wrote: >1956, to be exact. Not much red in those, though...rare earth >phosphors didn't show up until '63; best you can hope for is 'brown." >Don't know how those earlier horizontal chassis worked with the later >tubes, though. Amazing that it's still serviceable. Ususally the >flybacks went south on those with regularity. A further look into the old RCA service book shows this set to be the "economy" set of the '56 line. Has the CTC-5 "Super" chassis, which isn't so super, as it was the last one to use the chroma subcarrier differential demod method. The more expensive "Deluxe" CTC-5s all have Y-Z chroma demod, which became the standard in 1957. Chroma differential just never did work right, and it's very unlikely you can get a decent color raster out of such a scheme. Early Y-Z demod ckts were rather touchy too until about the CTC-10/11 vertical chasses came out. By the time the CTC-11 came out around the time of the rare earth tubes, chroma stability was pretty good on RCAs. My Heath GR-53 was a copy of the CTC-11, and it's still working today. Horrid convergance drift though. This set was RCA's only color "tabletop" in the '56 lineup, from what I see here. Article: 333451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DALE Allen" Subject: Oxidized Cad Plated Chassis Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:42:25 GMT I have an oxidized cad plated chassis and seem to remember that there is a treatment which can be applied to neutralize/clean the chassis. Does anyone recall the proper treatment? Thank you, Dale Article: 333452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> <4Rb4g.211730$Oe2.30987@fed1read07> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:45:07 GMT Bill Jeffrey wrote: > Hell, it's $105 to his own home town! Well with the price of gas nowadays..... Article: 333453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Mess-ages Message-ID: <2l2352hvhv18g6l2j0umjckgs8r8knu98v@4ax.com> References: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:23:39 -0400 On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:27:08 -0700, "graham" wrote: > >"Gary Tayman" wrote in message >news:dDe4g.4985$An2.2178@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Since I now realize I have an unused Mindspring account piggybacked onto Earthlink, >> I decided to see what I've got in there for e-mail. As you know, I'm now using the >> Mindspring address for reading these newsgroups, as Earthlink STILL hasn't fixed >> the newsgroup problem with my normal address. >> >> Well, I had over 6,000 messages! How many of these were legitimate? >> >> One. >> >> From Bill Turner, bless his heart. He had some information about TO batteries, and >> apparently did a simply reply to my recent newsgroup post. >> >> For the time being, you can send me messages either way -- mindspring.com or >> gate.net. However don't bother putting either of these into your address books, as >> I'll soon be telling Earthlink, "You're FIRED!" I'm signing up with Verizon. I'll >> certainly let everyone know when I officially pull the switch. > >.. how much longer are you going to bore us with your carrier problems? > ... do you think they just might be a bit OT? > >... who cares!!! > I think he is going to go on forever.... Article: 333454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Veneer experts arise! Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:43:46 -0600 Message-ID: <15667-44519D82-210@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: Ken, is it really possible to shrink it with glue and strapping? I'd think there would be a pucker somewhere . I dont know in every case . It is important to get the plastic and position it like i mentioned and test clamp before applying any glue . All i know is it has worked on the ones i have tried . I was able to get glue under the area with a thin flexable painters knife . It cant do any more damage than ripping the whole top layer off , cutting , drilling , splitting it like mentioned by others . Its real tough to know exactly what will happen on your project . Curves like that are always a challenge . Article: 333455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: collectables in Sonora Ca Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:55:46 -0700 Message-ID: <728352liefb1ciraq1hd7ms0n6m0r2kstd@4ax.com> References: <1146195492.482466.14540@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Apr-28-06 214437 PDT)On 27 Apr 2006 20:38:12 -0700, ned.sudduth@gmail.com wrote: >http://sonoracalifornia.blogspot.com/ > >a resource of information about antiquing and collecting and gold >mining. Spam complaint time. Article: 333456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Mess-ages Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:01:46 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:27:08 -0700, graham wrote: > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:dDe4g.4985$An2.2178@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Since I now realize I have an unused Mindspring account piggybacked onto Earthlink, >> I decided to see what I've got in there for e-mail. As you know, I'm now using the >> Mindspring address for reading these newsgroups, as Earthlink STILL hasn't fixed >> the newsgroup problem with my normal address. >> >> Well, I had over 6,000 messages! How many of these were legitimate? >> >> One. >> >> From Bill Turner, bless his heart. He had some information about TO batteries, and >> apparently did a simply reply to my recent newsgroup post. >> >> For the time being, you can send me messages either way -- mindspring.com or >> gate.net. However don't bother putting either of these into your address books, as >> I'll soon be telling Earthlink, "You're FIRED!" I'm signing up with Verizon. I'll >> certainly let everyone know when I officially pull the switch. > > .. how much longer are you going to bore us with your carrier problems? > ... do you think they just might be a bit OT? > > ... who cares!!! I found it educational at least. I don't use Earthlink or Mindspring so I had never heard about these problems with them. Now I know to watch out for them. When I have read enough follow-up posts that it gets boring, I just go on to something else. Nothing says you have to read everything that people post here. I don't even read any part of most of the threads here; don't have time. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 333457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Grundig 4095 restoration is complete! (pics) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 00:41:03 -0600 Message-ID: <15667-4451B8FF-220@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <1145830858.381564.290570@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> boiled linseed oil and turpentine no. Article: 333458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4451E443.BE3D8EC3@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mess-ages References: <4Kk4g.7159$BS2.4447@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:47:16 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > SHEEEEESH! > > I give an update on an ISP issue that many others have shown an interest in, > and get pounded for it. > > Yet, there are those who seem to use up 2/3 of the available bandwidth here, > doing nothing but bashing each other, making continual nasty comments, > hating God, hating our country and its President, hating our vehicles, > hating freedom, hating most of us, and the only topic that comes close to > the word "radio" is a continual bash of the people who talk on it. > > Hopefully soon the kidney stones will pass, and you'll all feel better, and > I'll breathe a sigh of relief. > > Maybe Earthlink was trying to do me a favor . . . What I find interesting is that you've had all those problems with Earthlink, yet millions of other people haven't. Earthlink is the 6th ISP I've used. Several have gone out of business, or are no longer local connections. I have had less trouble out of Earthlink/Brighthouse than any of the others. Good luck with whatever ISP you move to, but remember that it doesn't look good for any business to keep changing their phone number, Email address, or mailing address. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Article: 333459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4451E4EB.F5C3A2C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:50:04 GMT Steven wrote: > > I can't send you email, but you send it to me and make all these > threats, so I sent it to earthlink. It doesn't matter if your sig > disappeared, it's permanently archived and in my inbox. If it's a > problem to you, you can't hide it like in a PHP forum by changing it. Another of your blatant lies, Skippy? If I was E-mailing anything to you, you would be posting them on the newsgroup to back up your claims. Time for the kill file, Moron. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Article: 333460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4451E7DA.EDA9D3F4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mike, leave the Australians alone? References: <1146119200.951415.33710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:02:36 GMT Steven wrote: > > PS I am not on welfare any more than you are. I would think that you > have SSI or Disability benefits by now, and if you do, are you on > welfare also? > > Social Security is not welfare. Money went into SS from your paycheck > as well as mine. Both of my parents work/have worked before, during and > after I left the family home, and I've always had some odd job or even > a good driving job until 1997 (and I've been on SSI since 1992). I also > paid out far more than I got in benefits from about June 2005 by fixing > up and selling things, even my car (which was eating about 300/mo in > related expenses for a car that was paid in full). > > I'd like to know what your wallet did last year? Sat there and > complained? Since this was received before I set the kill file I will answer it. I receive a VA pension. It is something you will never get, nor understand. -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Article: 333461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: need to replace IF xformer in GE L-740 From: "craig yuen" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:53:31 EDT i have a GE L-740 with an open IF transformer. can i replace it with a transformer from a junk chassis or do i need to find an exact replacement. thanks in advance. craig -- ------------------------------------------------------- craig yuen -- cyuen@optonline.net craigyuen@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- Article: 333462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Mess-ages Message-ID: <22v352duelteti8ee98bn1trhp10pn0gje@4ax.com> References: <4Kk4g.7159$BS2.4447@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:28:36 -0400 On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:53:20 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >SHEEEEESH! > >I give an update on an ISP issue that many others have shown an interest in, >and get pounded for it. > >Yet, there are those who seem to use up 2/3 of the available bandwidth here, >doing nothing but bashing each other, making continual nasty comments, >hating God, hating our country and its President, hating our vehicles, >hating freedom, hating most of us, and the only topic that comes close to >the word "radio" is a continual bash of the people who talk on it. > >Hopefully soon the kidney stones will pass, and you'll all feel better, and >I'll breathe a sigh of relief. > >Maybe Earthlink was trying to do me a favor . . . Why don't you do all of us a favor then... Article: 333463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: need to replace IF xformer in GE L-740 References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:17:33 -0400 You can take pot luck on a junker, just be sure the freq is correct and don't mix the 1st and 2nd IF. Ken craig yuen wrote: > i have a GE L-740 with an open IF transformer. can i replace it with a > transformer from a junk chassis or do i need to find an exact replacement. > > thanks in advance. > > craig > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------- > craig yuen -- cyuen@optonline.net craigyuen@yahoo.com > ------------------------------------------------------- Article: 333464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:21:47 GMT I think many others are Fudging the shipping charges. Like the statement "I only need 2 hours of sleep each night!) It always costs me significantly more to ship something than the next guy. PP "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:nbudnZhYKshTrMzZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com... > Well, if it's any consolation, I always seem to end up paying more than > anyone else in North America for shipping a comparable package a > comparable distance. The carrier doesn't seem to matter. Maybe there's a > special gouging tax in this state or something. But at some point you > decide to quit piddling around and just ship the darned thing :-) > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 333465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <3Rn4g.3405$Nk3.2076@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:25:35 GMT Paul P wrote: > I think many others are Fudging the shipping charges. Like the statement "I > only need 2 hours of sleep each night!) It always costs me significantly > more to ship something than the next guy. > > PP I can't imagine why. Meth is easy enough to cook yourself so that it really shouldn't be an issue to increase the cost of shipping. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 333466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1146227507.895679.173800@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: One handsome Zenith.... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:12:47 GMT Nice set! I'm keeping my eyes open for something I may want in the living room. I want a really nice, impressive looking console. This one -- it isn't quite what I had in mind, but we're certainly in the ballpark! Possibly a year or two later -- when did they introduce the square dial? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Terry S" wrote in message news:1146227507.895679.173800@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Model-12-S-471-Console-Radio-Black-Dial-c-1940_W0QQitemZ6625496309 > > Terry. > Article: 333467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4Kk4g.7159$BS2.4447@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Mess-ages Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:48:41 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:4Kk4g.7159$BS2.4447@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > SHEEEEESH! > > I give an update on an ISP issue that many others have shown an interest in, and > get pounded for it. > I think if some people were really tired of reading your reports, they would have stopped reading them. But then again, you started a new thread again with the updates. Maybe if you keep it all under one heading in a single thread, those uninterested can better avoid running into it, and have less to complain about. We all know there are much more serious issues threatening our group right now. jim menning Article: 333468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: dual monoblock project-push pull 6V6's Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:02:54 -0700 Message-ID: <138452dvs7dbl3ne147nblp9u0c2iq5rfv@4ax.com> References: <1145712504.115944.323910@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1145740003.205968.194120@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146230950.181111.34560@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 28 Apr 2006 06:29:10 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >I recapped the amp Noodles...you wouldn't know a "recap" job from wiping your ass. I see you had to conjure up another email addy. Get some more shut down? HAHAHAHA! Article: 333469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:50:57 -0700 Message-ID: Another address for our resident troll/spammer, Charlie Nudo aka 66fourdoor, have just been shut down by Google for spamming. It is: trippin28track@yahoo.com To counter this, he opened a new email account with his POP3 server, bb69@epix.net. This will be easier to eliminate his eBay account, if he decides to spam again. Article: 333470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8l94g.11338$ZQ3.10485@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <3Rn4g.3405$Nk3.2076@tornado.socal.rr.com> In <3Rn4g.3405$Nk3.2076@tornado.socal.rr.com> Jeffrey D Angus writes: >Paul P wrote: >> I think many others are Fudging the shipping charges. Like the statement "I >> only need 2 hours of sleep each night!) It always costs me significantly >> more to ship something than the next guy. >I can't imagine why. Meth is easy enough to cook yourself so that >it really shouldn't be an issue to increase the cost of shipping. Cost of the precursors has gone way up. Have you priced pseudoephedrine lately? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 333471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:04:58 -0700 Message-ID: <66b452hei32ev88oriijvg6srekl56ce5n@4ax.com> References: <1146235125.072492.117050@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 28 Apr 2006 07:38:45 -0700, "frenchy" wrote: >I think my CTC-5 has really deep reds myself (like a brick red instead >of orangish), and found this old post from somebody regarding >pre-rare-earth phosphor tubes: > >"The problem was NOT in the phospher, though the early sets DID have >poor red >phosphers. The result was that the red gun had to be run at a much >higher beam current to get the same light output. The color of the >early red phosphers were not the problem, the sensitivity was." 6 of one, half dozen of the other. Even at the higher beam current, the red phosphor would only glow a "brick red," as you say, even when hit hard. Even at reduced drive on the G and B guns in a dark room, the red phosphor was never truly "red." All that changed in '63, of course. I got a replacement 21" CRT with the rare earth reds in it as a warranty replacement for the old style one that came with my GR-53, as the original had phosphor dropouts, and RCA replaced it for free with the new tube. After installation, the red was TOO high in comparison to what I'd set the G and B guns for. Once lined up, it was the best color TV I'd seen to that time...which ain't much today! That set, along with all the old tube color sets of the day, made great space heaters, too. I shudder to think of the energy in coal and crude oil that was wasted powering those old boatanchors. Article: 333472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: One handsome Zenith.... Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1146227507.895679.173800@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >when did they introduce the square dial? Do you mean square like a slide rule dial? Or the round dial with a square escutcheon having a knob at each of the four corners? If the latter, these are the '37 models. This guy has lots of pretty pictures: http://www.oldradiozone.com/zenith.html -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 333473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DSL NAME" References: <8LL3g.8273$lb.748171@news1.epix.net><35S3g.2532$Ci.1299@trnddc05> <1146158832.892532.185450@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Question about the Kutztown Radio meet Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:16:58 GMT ok Mike thanks for the heads up! Anyone else got similar events they know about in this area? (North east PA/ NW NJ) thanks again, Dave "Mike Koste" wrote in message news:1146158832.892532.185450@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Dave: The Warminster (PA) ARC Hamfest is Sunday, May 7th at the > Middletown Grange in Wrightstown (Bucks Co.). Info at > hamfest2006@k3dn.org > > Mike Koste > Gobs of Knobs > Ambler, PA > Article: 333474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44524E6D.CF0CB930@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Philco 37-116 X w/auto tuning References: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:20:33 GMT RadioGary wrote: > > I have to try that with a dead cat at the next ARCI meet in Chicago. Use a live cat. It will cause a bigger panic! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Philco 46-1226 Question Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:49:55 -0600 Message-ID: I have a Philco 46-1226 that I'm working on right now and when I went to get the schematic for it from my Riders, I noticed right away that it didn't quite match what I was working with. Turns out that the only schematic I can find for a 1226 is a code 121, where the paper label inside the cabinet shows it it to be a code 125, and I can't find a schematic for a 46-1226 code 125 anywhere. What's going on here ?? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Ben Article: 333476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:21:45 -0700 Message-ID: <69n452du27kmr5pumabq26kbdf411rnbmg@4ax.com> References: <1146248247.797225.321260@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 28 Apr 2006 11:17:28 -0700, jdut123@buckeye-express.com wrote: >MY GOD why don't you give it rest. I'm real tired of reading this BS >you keep putting here. You might as well be a spammer. GFY Article: 333477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:27:02 GMT > 1956, to be exact. Not much red in those, though...rare earth > phosphors didn't show up until '63; best you can hope for is 'brown." > Don't know how those earlier horizontal chassis worked with the later > tubes, though. Amazing that it's still serviceable. Ususally the > flybacks went south on those with regularity. The green phosphor was also changed sometime around then too. The newer phosphor was brighter for the same beam current, but glows slightly yellower than the old phosphor. Article: 333478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:59:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:27:02 GMT, robert casey wrote: >The green phosphor was also changed sometime around then too. The newer >phosphor was brighter for the same beam current, but glows slightly >yellower than the old phosphor. Up to '63, the standard RCA (and most everyone else) primary colors were: Brick red, or brown for "red." Dark cyan or teal for "green" Real blue...lots of it. I remember NBC's "Bonanza" on those...really deep blue skies, yellow rocks, and Lorne Greene always looked like he had hepatitis. Similar for Walt Disney, NBC's other flagship color show...the opening fireworks were genearlly magenta, white, blue, greenish yellow and...sorta cyan. The rare earth tubes in '63 helped a lot with primary purity, but going to solid state with the attendant stability helped a lot more later on, as did more reliable convergence. Same for the RF front end; the solid state tuners were a big improvement over the nuvistors, although the nuvistors were a big help in the upper VHF than were the older designs. Watching TV today and comparing to those old CTC days is rather like listening to your satrad in your car compared to Grandpa fiddling with his regen and "whisker." dB Article: 333479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:38:19 -0700 Message-ID: <21142-44527D3B-195@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: >From DB (does that stand for 'dimbulb'?): >Moron. Spam is commercially motivated >"junk mail" or posts designed to >advertise something for profit. Fighting a >spammer is not "spam." > >You GFY too. Spam is also any compulsive, unnaturally repetititous venting such as you been exhibiting here in your fixation on this 'noodles' character. You've shown in other posts that you do have valued and on-topic knowledge to contribute. So knock off this totally disruptive personal vendetta you've got with 'noodles', ferchrissakes. Bill(oc) Article: 333480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Message-ID: <52w4g.5103$An2.2604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:45:37 GMT Name-calling aside, I'll take DesertBob's side on this one. One of the aspects of those old '30's-40's consoles, which is one of the things we love about them, is the fact that a nice wood cabinet gave an AM radio a deep, rich sound. It is no secret that the AM radio system is lousy by today's audio standards, and you'll also find that any 40's AM radio chassis doesn't sound like much on the bench. But put it into the big cabinet, with the built-in speaker, and it really sounds rich. Those console stereos of the 50's and 60's were pretty much the same thing. It's not the cabinet speakers that cheapened a good chassis, it was quite the opposite. In many cases you'll find that the frequency response of the audio is lacking, intentionally to reduce noise or to give the appearance of more power, and this lack of fidelity is made up in the resonance of the cabinet. In contrast, component stereos were designed more to faithfully reproduce the original recording, without coloration. Take the chassis out of the console stereo, and you have a crappy chassis. It wouldn't come close to even a cheap modern stereo amp. As for the value of old electrolytics, about the only value they would have might be for metal recycling. Today we replace or bypass these electrolytics merely because they're there, as old filters are very trouble-prone. True, you can "form" an old filter, but the reliability of even this is debatable. If you want to keep an old console stereo for ANYTHING, keep the whole thing. Again, there may come the day when these have some value, but they will never approach the value of the other units that are being collected today. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "CAINE" wrote in message news:1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >I was in the local electronics shop this week, buying some caps and > tubes, and we got on the subject of these consoles, and the first thing > the counter guy said was, "get one of those old tube stereo consoles, > and take the amp out of it, those things sound sweet, they really sing" > > It's common knowledge that if you gut one of those and use the internal > amp, you get really good sound on the cheap- better than the consumer > hi-fi made in China crap that's out today. Find a single ended amp in > one, and you have a diamond in the rough. > > The fella on the net that bought the SS unit from me, actually had > found a local market in his area for these units, once he put them in > attactive cabinets. Most of these consoles can be bought for $10 or > so. How can you go wrong ? They are great to tinker with. The old > electrolytic caps in them alone are worth that, for parts. > Article: 333481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:29:02 -0400 Message-ID: <12555ph9uf67tb1@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <52w4g.5103$An2.2604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Gary Tayman wrote: > Name-calling aside, I'll take DesertBob's side on this one. Oh thats great. Encourage the troll. Article: 333482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Philco 46-1226 Question Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:41:13 GMT On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:49:55 -0600, "Benjamaniac" wrote: > I have a Philco 46-1226 that I'm working on right now and when I >went to get the schematic for it from my Riders, I noticed right away that >it didn't quite match what I was working with. Turns out that the only >schematic I can find for a 1226 is a code 121, where the paper label inside >the cabinet shows it it to be a code 125, and I can't find a schematic for a >46-1226 code 125 anywhere. What's going on here ?? Any info would be >appreciated. > Thanks, > Ben > The changes were to the power supply to accommodate the use of a PM speaker instead of and ED speaker. I have emailed a copy of the changed power supply schematic. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 333483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:51:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <21142-44527D3B-195@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:38:19 -0700, oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote: >From DB (does that stand for 'dimbulb'?): > >>Moron. Spam is commercially motivated >>"junk mail" or posts designed to >>advertise something for profit. Fighting a >>spammer is not "spam." >> >>You GFY too. > >Spam is also any compulsive, unnaturally repetititous venting such as >you been exhibiting here in your fixation on this 'noodles' character. Incorrect. "Spam" is defined as commercially-motifvated, mass mailings designed to sell something, usually unwanted by the recipient. I'm not selling anything. If I irritate you, TFB. You GFY as well. Better get in line, it's growing! Article: 333484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:53:08 -0700 Message-ID: <9la552l014unn5dlktpb7ht71lr975bslm@4ax.com> References: <21142-44527D3B-195@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:27:50 GMT, "Mark S" wrote: >I remember a guy named 'Noodles', used to hang out at the shore, Long Beach >Island (LBI), NJ around oh '72? Great times back then most smoking some sort >of green leafy substance...I don't think anyone really inhailed though! :>). >Damn those were good times. Somehow you don't forget someone named >'Noodles'...could it be?? Nah! Could've been Noodles on shore vacation from PA! He has boasted about running around with a lid of Acapulco gold in his back pocket in a post a couple of years ago. Could be! Was he also an idiot? Article: 333485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:53:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146248247.797225.321260@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:34:27 GMT, yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) wrote: >Well i guess i don`t have to send Desertbob $25.It was worth a try.Rick You will, three months after I stop. You made a written proposal and I accepted. The clock just hasn't started yet. Article: 333486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: One handsome Zenith.... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1146227507.895679.173800@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146234287.248315.61230@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:56:30 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > >one is more rectangular. There was one source for >repros, I dont know if they are available anymore, I need to check on that >and restock them. >Mark Oppat Nope Alan doesn't have them any longer ... maybe someone else?... if so let us know who etc.. Nice Radio ... my buddy Mike goes tomorrow to Springfield ILL to get the one he bought last week.. same radio... well same model number.. with an original finish ... needs to be refinished... but is better than a lousy finishjob ... at least Jean and Mike's wife know how to do it correctly! John k9uwa Article: 333487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:58:57 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <52w4g.5103$An2.2604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <12555ph9uf67tb1@corp.supernews.com> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:29:02 -0400, - exray - wrote: >Gary Tayman wrote: >> Name-calling aside, I'll take DesertBob's side on this one. > >Oh thats great. Encourage the troll. No "encouragement" needed here! I've accomplished part of my goal. As for you, GFY. Better hurry, or you'll wind up taking a number on line. Article: 333488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 37-116 X w/auto tuning From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <44524E6D.CF0CB930@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:59:24 GMT In article <44524E6D.CF0CB930@earthlink.net>, mike.terrell@earthlink.net says... > > > Use a live cat. It will cause a bigger panic! ;-) >Michael A. Terrell don't be swinging those Kitties around like that! John k9uwa Article: 333489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 46-1226 Question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:01:19 GMT In article , benjamaniac@yahoo.com says... > > > I have a Philco 46-1226 that I'm working on right now and when I >went to get the schematic for it from my Riders, I noticed right away that >it didn't quite match what I was working with. Turns out that the only >schematic I can find for a 1226 is a code 121, where the paper label inside >the cabinet shows it it to be a code 125, and I can't find a schematic for a >46-1226 code 125 anywhere. What's going on here ?? Any info would be >appreciated. > Thanks, > Ben > > Hi Ben and Others also... anyone out there have a Philco 46-1226 that they want to sell?.. I know a guy looking for one... restored would be excellent..would save me from having to do it... the guy is in the New Orleans area ... John k9uwa Article: 333490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:06:54 -0700 Message-ID: <32b55216ngl0q51kvb494kd5vcdtjulon0@4ax.com> References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <52w4g.5103$An2.2604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:45:37 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >It is no secret that the AM radio system is lousy >by today's audio standards, and you'll also find that any 40's AM radio >chassis doesn't sound like much on the bench. But put it into the big >cabinet, with the built-in speaker, and it really sounds rich. "Rich?" I think the illusion was that the open backed, acoustically clueless console of the '30s had a bipolar distribution pattern. The high frequency radiation from any cone driver is concentrated in a narrow beam to the front, but as frequency decreases, back radiation output increases. Thus, you have the essence of Amar Bose's fraudulent 901 system. "High fidelity?" No way. Sound better than a raw frame driver hung in mid-air? Sure! Sound better than an acoustically designed back enclosure with low distortion drivers? Not to the educated ear, but yes to the simpleton. > >Those console stereos of the 50's and 60's were pretty much the same thing. >It's not the cabinet speakers that cheapened a good chassis, it was quite >the opposite. In many cases you'll find that the frequency response of the >audio is lacking, intentionally to reduce noise or to give the appearance of >more power, and this lack of fidelity is made up in the resonance of the >cabinet. In contrast, component stereos were designed more to faithfully >reproduce the original recording, without coloration. Take the chassis out >of the console stereo, and you have a crappy chassis. It wouldn't come >close to even a cheap modern stereo amp. The consoles of the '50s and '60s were big on "boom"...nothing more. Some of the Magnavoxes had those $2 Jensen horns aimed out the sides...yick! Still others use gawd-awful ovals like 6X9s to save space...and increase harmonic distortion, which to the dumbbell, sound like "MORE POWER!" Consoles are landfill food. The electronics therein are virtually some of the most worthless things left of that era. >As for the value of old electrolytics, about the only value they would have >might be for metal recycling. Today we replace or bypass these >electrolytics merely because they're there, as old filters are very >trouble-prone. True, you can "form" an old filter, but the reliability of >even this is debatable. Cheapo grade 'lytics, like those found in garbage consoles that Noodles likes, don't reform very well or very often. Industrial and MIL grade 'lytics often do, and last a good while longer. Cheap 'lytics just need to be tossed into the metal scrap bin. > >If you want to keep an old console stereo for ANYTHING, keep the whole >thing. Again, there may come the day when these have some value, but they >will never approach the value of the other units that are being collected >today. I seriously doubt that the garbage consoles that Noodles has now on fraudBay will ever be worth anything. Compared to the pioneering engineering exemplified by radios from the "golden era," these things were crassly engineered to eliminate every nickel's worth of production cost, and were specifically aimed at uneducated buyers. Even V-M knew this and started selling, as did Magnavox, a line of low-level "components" in the early '60s. Remember those "pink oval face" things with the 7591s? Not very good, but at least it wasn't a console! I seriously cannot think of anything V-M ever produced that was very good. Article: 333491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Philco 46-1226 Question Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:09:58 -0600 Message-ID: References: John, Send me an email on this one. I have a guy who SAYS he's interested in this one, but if he changes his mind or something, it'll be for sale. I wish I could keep every radio I restore, but if I did...I'd have to buy another house to put them in. Ben "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:j1y4g.949235$xm3.311563@attbi_s21... > In article , benjamaniac@yahoo.com > says... >> >> >> I have a Philco 46-1226 that I'm working on right now and when I >>went to get the schematic for it from my Riders, I noticed right away that >>it didn't quite match what I was working with. Turns out that the only >>schematic I can find for a 1226 is a code 121, where the paper label >>inside >>the cabinet shows it it to be a code 125, and I can't find a schematic for >>a >>46-1226 code 125 anywhere. What's going on here ?? Any info would be >>appreciated. >> Thanks, >> Ben >> >> > > Hi Ben and Others also... anyone out there have a Philco 46-1226 that they > want to sell?.. I know a guy looking for one... restored would be > excellent..would save me from having to do it... the guy is in the New > Orleans > area ... > > John k9uwa > Article: 333492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark S" References: <21142-44527D3B-195@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <9la552l014unn5dlktpb7ht71lr975bslm@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:22:56 GMT "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:9la552l014unn5dlktpb7ht71lr975bslm@4ax.com... > On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:27:50 GMT, "Mark S" > wrote: > >>I remember a guy named 'Noodles', used to hang out at the shore, Long >>Beach >>Island (LBI), NJ around oh '72? Great times back then most smoking some >>sort >>of green leafy substance...I don't think anyone really inhailed though! >>:>). >>Damn those were good times. Somehow you don't forget someone named >>'Noodles'...could it be?? Nah! > > Could've been Noodles on shore vacation from PA! He has boasted about > running around with a lid of Acapulco gold in his back pocket in a > post a couple of years ago. Could be! > > Was he also an idiot? Was he an idiot? I didn't know him all that well. This particular group I hung around with for a couple weeks were mostly either locals to LBI or their families owned a vacation homes there; some quite well heeled. Teenagers can be idiots on a regular basis! M Article: 333493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:44:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: <21142-44527D3B-195@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <9la552l014unn5dlktpb7ht71lr975bslm@4ax.com> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:22:56 GMT, "Mark S" wrote: >Was he an idiot? I didn't know him all that well. This particular group I >hung around with for a couple weeks were mostly either locals to LBI or >their families owned a vacation homes there; some quite well heeled. >Teenagers can be idiots on a regular basis! Couldn't be Noodles...he comes from humble stock, and he's more humble than any of the rest of them...or at least, he should be. Article: 333494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:47:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146235125.072492.117050@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:34:36 -0700, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >At the high beam currents required by the red phosphors' poor sensitivity, >the phosphors shifted toward the orange. "Tomato juice orange" was the term used to describe the fully saturated red on a pre-CTC-11 RCA. The spectrum would run from "brick red" or brown at low drive to "tomato juice" at 100% saturation. That's why faces on early RCA color TV always looked like the actors had hepatitis.> Article: 333495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:50:42 -0700 Message-ID: <6gh5525u7kr6qhcsu9h31sugm87k4skt6b@4ax.com> References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 28 Apr 2006 17:43:49 -0700, "Engineer" wrote: >I wonder... Arrgh, 6X4 red hot - both plates fit to BBQ a 10 oz steak! >Hit the switch and start the forensics... VERY common failure mode. The 6X4 was probably one of the least reliable "empty state" rectifiers ever unleashed. Good for frying your transformer, too. A fuse in time saves...uh...lots of rewinding! Article: 333496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4452C94A.E4FDB12E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Philco 37-116 X w/auto tuning References: <44524E6D.CF0CB930@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 02:03:45 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote: > > In article <44524E6D.CF0CB930@earthlink.net>, mike.terrell@earthlink.net > says... > > > > > > Use a live cat. It will cause a bigger panic! ;-) > >Michael A. Terrell > > don't be swinging those Kitties around like that! > > John k9uwa Didn't you see the smiley? -- Subject: Re: Try ``this`` Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:04:00 GMT From: "Steven Dinius" Organization: Ispeed Wireless Inc. (srvinet.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 I complained to this church of yours that you haven't been very "Christian" in response to a genuine want to help your case. You should feel ashamed. I feel disgusted. Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Todd Tuckey" References: Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 02:07:50 GMT People have emailed about buying separately....the color set is $400 and the b&W sets are $50 each. Todd Article: 333498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Spammer 66fourdoor shut down again Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:12:56 -0700 Message-ID: <8ri5521fffmp0bb1ka1epfvgqcjv57piul@4ax.com> References: <1146248247.797225.321260@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:59:38 GMT, yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) wrote: >Well i am not going to wait until i am 85 years old and get an email from you >saying i owe you $25 because 66fourdoor passed away 3 months ago and you >didn`t say anything bad about him since his death.Rick Other than that, you owe me $25 90 days from the date I do not post anything at all in here about Charlie Nudo, aka 66fourdoor...right? Right. Personal check will be OK. Article: 333499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:03:40 -0700 Message-ID: <9554-4452C97C-135@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <6gh5525u7kr6qhcsu9h31sugm87k4skt6b@4ax.com> >From DB: >The 6X4 was probably one of the least >reliable "empty state" rectifiers ever >unleashed. Good for frying your >transformer... The 6X5 was by far the more nefarious for H-K shorts. Its 7-pin mini successor, the 6X4, was pretty benign by comparison. Perhaps your experience was the exception to the rule. oc Article: 333500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FS: 50's RCA Color TV--works--Philly PA Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:17:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 02:07:50 GMT, "Todd Tuckey" wrote: >People have emailed about buying separately....the color set is $400 and the >b&W sets are $50 each. Todd That particular CTC-5 set is the "economy" set, the "Aldrich." Anything with the "deluxe" chassis would be a better choice. The "super" chassis was...well...not so hot. In terms of rarity, these sets sold like hotcakes when new, since they were the first color TV offered by anyone for under $500 (and that was 1956 bucks!.) They're pretty common. Cost of a "new" Aldrich in today's dollars? Around $4200. Article: 333501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1146227507.895679.173800@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146234287.248315.61230@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: One handsome Zenith.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 02:10:55 GMT wrote in message news:1146234287.248315.61230@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > A bit over restored, though. And there's enough open grain that if you put it all together you could park a tractor trailer in it... Someone need to tell him about filler. Ron Article: 333502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OH, for crying out loud Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:15:25 -0500 Message-ID: <19197-4452DA4D-515@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146097948.661016.157180@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> The Kindergarten room is two doors down the hall on the right. >>>>>[] cuhulin Article: 333503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:28:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <6gh5525u7kr6qhcsu9h31sugm87k4skt6b@4ax.com> <9554-4452C97C-135@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:03:40 -0700, oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote: >From DB: > >>The 6X4 was probably one of the least >>reliable "empty state" rectifiers ever >>unleashed. Good for frying your >>transformer... > >The 6X5 was by far the more nefarious for H-K shorts. Its 7-pin mini >successor, the 6X4, was pretty benign by comparison. Perhaps your >experience was the exception to the rule. I've had my "thrills" with 6X5s as well. For reasons unknown, the 6X4 seemed to fry more transformers in my own personal experience, probably by sheer volume of thusly equipped failed gear. Another good one for this: the 6V4, especially when pressed to design maximums. Article: 333504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <0YE1g.4000$Fy2.3176@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Telefunken 5384W Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:43:33 GMT Thank you for the reply! I agree that these radios are great, but I wasn't aware as to what degree. As for the Telefunken 5384, The early sixties Telefunken radios were kind of a sunset period for vacuum tube technology, but an apex for vacuum tube circuit design! The phenolic boards do represent their level of potential problems, but with embedding the rest of the ends of the components across faulty areas of the circuit board (I did this on a Metz) you can most of the time overcome problems. In fact, if one is skillful enough, you can make a replica circuit board and transfer all the IF's and switches to the new board. The Telefunken schematics actually have the circuit board outline on it. The only reservation I have with the early sixties power tubes, are the ELL80's and other integrated circuit type power tubes, expensive to replace. If you ever come across one of these radios and want to dispose of it, please contact me. Omer "John Stone" wrote in message news:C077B9FA.4633F%jmsent2@comcast.net... > On 4/27/06 9:12 PM, in article > jSe4g.4987$An2.3262@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Omer > Suleimanagich" > wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, what makes a "Walton" Zenith great? > > > The "Walton" sets are basically large table sets with console chassis > inside. As such, they represented the top of the line of the Zenith table > radios of the day. Add to that the very large, nice quality cabinet, > attractive round black shutter dial, motor drive, tuning eye, etc. and > it's > clear why they are collectible. And in the world of collecting, where > uniqueness and rarity carry a lot of weight, along with the exposure that > radio had each and every week, I think it's fair to attribute a degree of > "greatness" to these sets. > While other companies might have made "better" performing radios than > Zenith, a 9 or 12 tube "Walton" is clearly no slouch. > I have a 12S267 console which has basically the same chassis as the 12 > tube > Walton, and it is a solid performer. > > >> Other than the fact it was used in a show about people from the >> seventies, >> poorly pretending and poorly acting as if they were living during the >> depression in the early thirties. >> >> Did you ever notice that the hair styles were relevant to the seventies >> instead of the thirties! > > Actually, I thought the show was a stupid, syrupy, soap opera. I myself am > not particularly attracted to the Walton sets, nor do I feel they are > worth > the price they are going for these days. I much prefer the console > versions. > >> I actually agree with Mark Oppat's selection of favored radios from this >> period! >> > As cousin Sly says: > "Different strokes for different folks." > Article: 333505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:05:21 -0400 Message-ID: <125641natg89635@corp.supernews.com> References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> <1146176088.429636.83550@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1252h0gjsrrfeeb@corp.supernews.com> Phil B wrote: > Yes. You win, but considering the route the UPS truck needs to take, the > cost is reasonable. > > Phil B Actually its a UPS 'scam' of sorts. We have no Ground Service from UPS. If you are the typical shipping clerk somewhere on the mainland and assume typical ground rates to PR they'll charge you at 2nd Day air rate which is the minimum available for us....and it won't be 2nd Day Air delivery. Typical shipping clerk never gets the clue and the front office just pays the bills. The ebay calculator is an example of how it works...and is correct. Fedex does the same way. USPS is the only shipping entity that regards PR as part of the USA and they charge the same rates here as on the mainland. -Bill Article: 333506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 02:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <24542-4453104B-7@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: A divorced woman who lives next door to me.She works for Bell South.She used to work for FedEX.She once told me one time a fork lift driver ran the fork lift blades right on through the middle of a computer monitor that was in a box. cuhulin Article: 333507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:07:12 -0400 Message-ID: <12567lltjc33jed@corp.supernews.com> References: <24542-4453104B-7@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > A divorced woman who lives next door to me.She works for Bell South.She > used to work for FedEX.She once told me one time a fork lift driver ran > the fork lift blades right on through the middle of a computer monitor > that was in a box. > cuhulin > Damn! Are you kidding? Did she report it? Why not? Was she fired for not reporting it? Did she tell that story in the interview for the Bell South job? Did her guilty conscious contribute to her divorce? How did she wind up being next door to you? Or did you move in next door to her? Is that a "cheap" neighborhood? Whats your point? -Bill Article: 333508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Mess-ages Message-ID: References: <4Kk4g.7159$BS2.4447@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <22v352duelteti8ee98bn1trhp10pn0gje@4ax.com> <1146223898.375509.263690@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 05:16:10 -0400 On 28 Apr 2006 04:31:38 -0700, "Steven" wrote: >Tracy...not today.please Long time no talkie. How you doing Stevie? How is the weight watchers doing for you? Article: 333509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Mess-ages Message-ID: References: <4Kk4g.7159$BS2.4447@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <22v352duelteti8ee98bn1trhp10pn0gje@4ax.com> <1146223898.375509.263690@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146303561.851446.22440@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:06:13 -0400 On 29 Apr 2006 02:39:21 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > >Beerbarrel wrote: >> On 28 Apr 2006 04:31:38 -0700, "Steven" wrote: >> >> >Tracy...not today.please >> >> Long time no talkie. How you doing Stevie? How is the weight watchers >> doing for you? > >Been out tearing up the asphalt and sidewalks on my bike most of the >day, just got home. Was great weather, warm but not by 3 am. Nicely >exhausted, lots of good fun There's not much food in here right now so >who needs WW and they cost money. > >That's 300 dollars a month I don't spend on a car that I'd already paid >for, and I'm getting a push mower soon to boot. No gasoline needsd here >at all. > >Hope your new day winds up as nice. I've already had my first wild >goose chase this year trying to locate a yard sale. You are out bike riding at 3AM? Must be a safe neighboorhood. It's time to go to work....bye. Article: 333510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Speaking of shipping Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:02:22 -0500 Message-ID: <11456-445371EE-2@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <12567lltjc33jed@corp.supernews.com> There are two divorced women whom moved in next door to me last September.One of them is in Minnesota right now.Those two women are very nice. cuhulin Article: 333511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:09:05 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-44537381-39@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <125641natg89635@corp.supernews.com> Doesn't U-Haul sell cardboard boxes,or would UPS have the size box I need? I need to buy a hefty duty shipping carboard box about 30'' by 30 '' by 15 '',in other words,to put a box in another box.(it is a Sunn beta lead guitar amplifier)The item is going to Minnesota. cuhulin Article: 333512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Philco 70 Cabinet Pieces Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:30:02 GMT Does anyone have the two side trim pieces, that go along the bottom of a Philco 70 cabinet? Condition isn't important, I'm rebuilding this cabinet anyway and I seem to have lost the pieces that went with mine. Thanks. -- To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address Article: 333513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: dual monoblock project-push pull 6V6's Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:38:56 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-44537A80-45@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: I own two nickle plated Astatic desk type Microphones in excellent A 1 condition physical and cosmetic,,,, if that means anything? Yep,I bought them at a Goodwill store years and years ago for only a few dollars.I would like to own at least one or two of those old timey microphones that are suspended in the middle by some springs,,,, if you know what I mean? cuhulin Article: 333514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: dual monoblock project-push pull 6V6's Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:43:45 -0500 Message-ID: <11455-44537BA1-8@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: CAINE,,, you might as well go ahead and rig it up.If it works,,, it works. cuhulin Article: 333515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:58:29 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-44537F15-49@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: And what is wrong with Americans owning and driving large fuel hungry vehicles? Do you expect us Americans to pedal bicycles or ride little bitty motor scooters around everywhere? It isn't going to happen. cuhulin,an American who owns and drives large fuel hungry vehicles. Article: 333516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: dual monoblock project-push pull 6V6's Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:10:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11454-44537A80-45@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:38:56 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >I own two nickle plated Astatic desk type Microphones in excellent A 1 >condition physical and cosmetic,,,, if that means anything? Yep,I bought >them at a Goodwill store years and years ago for only a few dollars.I >would like to own at least one or two of those old timey microphones >that are suspended in the middle by some springs,,,, if you know what I >mean? Western Electric 387A carbon button? Lotsa luck on that. Article: 333517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:11:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146007444.903864.322620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9UR3g.122434$oL.89433@attbi_s71> <0AV3g.1392$Vn.99@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146134999.967801.179120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <52w4g.5103$An2.2604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1146319925.099327.318360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 29 Apr 2006 07:12:05 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >you need to try an old stereo tube amp, and put large high eff. floor >standing speakers on it- epiphany wills strike- you'll get sound that >blows away anything coming out of the small, centralized cabinet- >believe me He must mean "the psychosis will strike...." Article: 333518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:12:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11454-44537F15-49@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:58:29 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >And what is wrong with Americans owning and driving large fuel hungry >vehicles? Do you expect us Americans to pedal bicycles or ride little >bitty motor scooters around everywhere? It isn't going to happen. > >cuhulin,an American who owns and drives large fuel hungry vehicles. ...but not for long. Article: 333519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:07:58 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-4453814E-52@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: www.google.com How to make your own automobile fuel. I saw something on tv news yesterday evening.A company in Tennessee is building stills and shipping them Worldwide as fast as he can.They cost about $1,400 each.His business has shot up about 100 percent since fed govts Ripp Off gasoline fuel prices.(I bought ten dollars worth of gasoline yesterday,it came to 3.665 gallons,barely over three and a half gallons of regular gasoline,,, What A RIPP OFF!) Dogpatch Energy,or whatever his website is. Do you own some land? Buck up Bucky,You too,can make your own automobile fuel.Side benefit is,White Lightning/Moonshine.It's called Alcohol. cuhulin Article: 333520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:09:53 -0500 Message-ID: <11455-445381C1-10@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146098002.423134.256960@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> U.S.A. OWNS Iraq.We are there forever.Get used to it. cuhulin Article: 333521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:19:00 -0500 Message-ID: <11455-445383E4-12@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146098280.539052.25150@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Seventy,,, seventy one dollars per barrell of oil.That is how the oil morons project it four months down the road.It takes about four months >from the time that oil comes up out of the ground untill it is gasoline in your car's tank.Bote for me,I will steal (or nuke every country in the World I dont like) every drop of oil in the World and y'all will be paying twenty two cents per gallon of gasoline. cuhulin Article: 333522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:12:06 -0500 Message-ID: <11455-44538246-11@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146098002.781373.79680@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I own my house and the land it is sitting on,,,, and I also own a half acre of land in Putnam County,Florida. cuhulin Article: 333523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: <11456-44538490-4@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146098280.539052.25150@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Them brit Triump little three wheeler ''cars'' are famous for turning over. cuhulin Article: 333524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:42:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11454-4453814E-52@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:07:58 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >www.google.com How to make your own automobile fuel. > >I saw something on tv news yesterday evening.A company in Tennessee is >building stills and shipping them Worldwide as fast as he can.They cost >about $1,400 each.His business has shot up about 100 percent since fed >govts Ripp Off gasoline fuel prices.(I bought ten dollars worth of >gasoline yesterday,it came to 3.665 gallons,barely over three and a half >gallons of regular gasoline,,, What A RIPP OFF!) Dogpatch Energy,or >whatever his website is. > >Do you own some land? Buck up Bucky,You too,can make your own automobile >fuel.Side benefit is,White Lightning/Moonshine.It's called Alcohol. >cuhulin The Carter Administration tried to get us moving toward ethanol conversion back in 1977. What happened? Republicans happened, and all the synfuel programs disappeared. Now, with oil slated to hit $100/bbl this summer, it's the little guy paying the price for voting for the wrong people. E85 (15% petro, 85% ethanol) is alread being sold in the "corn states." and in some places is outselling gasoline. Duh...we could've had this decades ago, but no...had to vote for the old fart with the Swiss cheese brain...Ronnie RayGun. Now, the latest oil baron misinfo is that it takes too much energy to produce ethanol. Well, yeah...with the present infrastructure, sure. They fear competition >from massive ethanol production facilities from people like Archer-Daniels-Midland. Article: 333525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:43:17 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146098002.423134.256960@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11455-445381C1-10@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:09:53 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >U.S.A. OWNS Iraq.We are there forever.Get used to it. But not for long. Article: 333526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-44538736-54@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <44503D25.3AE782F7@earthlink.net> I go to the food store once a week.(I went there yesterday morning) A round trip of about three miles.The fuel gage in my raggity old 1978 lonnng wheelbase Dodge van quit working last year.(sometimes it works,sometimes it doesn't) I try to keep enough gas in that old beat up piece of crap van so I wont run empty out there on the road.Ten dollars worth of gas I pumped in that old van yesterday,3.665 gallons.Barely over three and a half gallons of gas.I say America NEEDS another Revoluntionary War,,, on d.c.this time. cuhulin Article: 333527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:38:01 -0700 Message-ID: <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> >From Brian: >I use a 1A fuse in the primary winding. I >was really glad I had it when an >apparently new 5Z4 shorted... Just musin' on the subject, but does fusing the primary really afford reliable protection against a B+ short? Considering that the wattage pulled from the wall already supports the full complement of heaters, does a primary fuse really have enough 'headroom' to react to a B+ short, yet not blow at turnon with cold heaters? It still seems preferable to have a dedicated fuse on the secondary side as well.. either in the ct leg, or ideally, in each plate lead. Bill(oc) Article: 333528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-44538D60-58@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146319925.099327.318360@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> www.thebuttkicker.com SCREAM! cuhulin Article: 333529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:13:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146098280.539052.25150@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <11456-44538490-4@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:21:52 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >Them brit Triump little three wheeler ''cars'' are famous for turning >over. "Triump" never made a 3 wheeled car. You must have confused them for the "Gogomobile" from Italy. I predict 3 wheelers will become common on US highways within 15 years. Article: 333530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:08:21 -0500 Message-ID: <11455-44538F75-13@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: It's wayyyyyy high past time for a third party. www.chuckbaldwinlive.com cuhulin Article: 333531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:16:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: <44503D25.3AE782F7@earthlink.net> <11454-44538736-54@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:33:10 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >I go to the food store once a week.(I went there yesterday morning) A >round trip of about three miles.The fuel gage in my raggity old 1978 >lonnng wheelbase Dodge van quit working last year.(sometimes it >works,sometimes it doesn't) I try to keep enough gas in that old beat up >piece of crap van so I wont run empty out there on the road.Ten dollars >worth of gas I pumped in that old van yesterday,3.665 gallons.Barely >over three and a half gallons of gas.I say America NEEDS another >Revoluntionary War,,, on d.c.this time. I see...can't figure out the gravity of the situation, so attack ourselves? What part of the south did you say you were from again? Article: 333532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:15:02 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-44539106-59@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: China is becoming more and more of a threat to America.That is why America is establishing permanent/long term bases in those parts of the World.(another reason is because America is not going to pay euro dollars for foreign oil,there are other reasons too) bush is only a dumb moron lackey front monkey puppet in all of that.He is not the ''decider'' cuhulin Article: 333533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:32:38 -0700 Message-ID: <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:38:01 -0700, oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote: >From Brian: > >>I use a 1A fuse in the primary winding. I >>was really glad I had it when an >>apparently new 5Z4 shorted... > >Just musin' on the subject, but does fusing the primary really afford >reliable protection against a B+ short? Nope. In such a design, a $45 transformer will protect a 5¢ fuse EVERY time! >Considering that the wattage >pulled from the wall already supports the full complement of heaters, >does a primary fuse really have enough 'headroom' to react to a B+ >short, yet not blow at turnon with cold heaters? Nope. > It still seems preferable to have a dedicated fuse on >the secondary side as well.. either in the ct leg, or ideally, in each >plate lead. I usually use fast-blows rated at 10-15% over rated B+ draw on the secondaries. Despite many shorted 6X4s, 6X5s and 6V4s, I haven't blown a transformer yet on any gear I've so modified, although I've gone through a good selection of 5¢ fuses...and crispy rectifiers! Gear I've modified for solid state half waves with dropping resistors and a B+ turn-on delay also never lose transformers. I did this for gear I was going to keep and use. Tube rectifiers are too unreliable and failures are costly, not to mention adding to the "energy hog" problem of all tube gear. It's interesting to note that the US still allows unfused secondaries, while in Canada, ALL secondaries must be fused individually. Again, CSA standards are tighter and better than UL. You cannot use oversized primary fuse protection to protect any transformer reliably. Saturation losses in the core, as well as increasing winding impedance due to the steep temperature rise in the event of an overload, will damage either side's windings before a slow-blow on the primary gets hot enough to react. Article: 333534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:36:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11455-44538F75-13@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:08:21 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >It's wayyyyyy high past time for a third party. Third parties never work in the US, period, and never will as long as we use the Electoral College. As seen with the Greens in '00, they basically only act as "spoilers" to screw up the results of a tight national election. If Nader had been banned from running in Flori-DUH, Dubya would've never made it and we've be a LOT better off now. Those 75,000 Nader votes there swung the whole nation, just like some church nutters in Ohio swung the whole works in '04. Article: 333535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:37:51 -0700 Message-ID: <8h57529m0u2pc1mgpihat6hdoklvgs04ki@4ax.com> References: <11454-44539106-59@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:15:02 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >China is becoming more and more of a threat to America. You just figured that out? They've been destroying our domestic industry for years, with help from mega-monster, Wally-Fart. Article: 333536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:29:28 -0500 Message-ID: <11454-4453A278-71@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <8h57529m0u2pc1mgpihat6hdoklvgs04ki@4ax.com> I am from a part of the South that is the old South,wayyyyy down South.Southron born and raised.You want to ''try'' me? I wish you Luck.I have lived in several (Indiana,Montana,Kansas,Illinois) northern states before.Try as you might,You will not get anywhere with me.I still wish you Luck,though. cuhulin Article: 333537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:44:51 -0700 Message-ID: <20915-4453A613-49@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: >From DB: >I predict 3 wheelers will become >common on US highways within 15 >years. WHAT?! Haven't you ever watched 'Mr. Bean'? :-) Three-wheelers are notoriously prone to topple over at at the slightest provocation, unless built with an unmanageably wide wheelbase. This was borne out in the famous 'Dymaxion' car of 1933, only three of which were ever built. Designed by Buckminster Fuller, it was lauded as the wave of the future, but the inherent 'tipsy-ness' of the 3-wheel planform was its achilles heel. oc Article: 333538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: dual monoblock project-push pull 6V6's Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:58:06 -0500 Message-ID: <10936-4453A92E-8@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I dont know,nor do I care,what kind of buttons are in my old microphones.I wouldn't know if they are carbon buttons or whatever.I am not ever going to take them apart and LQQK around in there.They just sit on a shelf in one of my closets with some of my old antique telephones and LQQK purty,just for me. cuhulin Article: 333539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: dual monoblock project-push pull 6V6's Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:59:32 -0500 Message-ID: <10935-4453A984-71@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I reserve the right to save my ''button'' only for my wimmins. cuhulin Article: 333540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: dual monoblock project-push pull 6V6's Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:05:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <10936-4453A92E-8@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:58:06 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >I dont know,nor do I care,what kind of buttons are in my old >microphones.I wouldn't know if they are carbon buttons or whatever.I am >not ever going to take them apart and LQQK around in there.They just sit >on a shelf in one of my closets with some of my old antique telephones >and LQQK purty,just for me. Be sure to get a Type 100 desk set to go along with it! Article: 333541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4453B8C4.CF813D19@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos References: <44503D25.3AE782F7@earthlink.net> <11454-44538736-54@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:05:38 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 10:33:10 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > > >I go to the food store once a week.(I went there yesterday morning) A > >round trip of about three miles.The fuel gage in my raggity old 1978 > >lonnng wheelbase Dodge van quit working last year.(sometimes it > >works,sometimes it doesn't) I try to keep enough gas in that old beat up > >piece of crap van so I wont run empty out there on the road.Ten dollars > >worth of gas I pumped in that old van yesterday,3.665 gallons.Barely > >over three and a half gallons of gas.I say America NEEDS another > >Revoluntionary War,,, on d.c.this time. > > I see...can't figure out the gravity of the situation, so attack > ourselves? What part of the south did you say you were from again? He's from Trollsville Mississippi. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:45:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <44503D25.3AE782F7@earthlink.net> <11454-44538736-54@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <4453B8C4.CF813D19@earthlink.net> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:05:38 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > He's from Trollsville Mississippi. I'd figured that from the language "skills." Article: 333543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Fisher 500c update-another bad resistor in preamp-thanks John Stone Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:48:06 -0700 Message-ID: <6lg752lj1s033v69q4ob5fknhm3skam4lr@4ax.com> References: <1146319307.046681.312810@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 29 Apr 2006 07:01:47 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >update- my new 7591 tubes arrived yesterday ...replete with Russian beer can cathodes... >another bad resistor- will solder a new one in and see what happens- >thanks John Stone, et. al. ! Just have to ask yourself...WHY did these components fry? Don't tell him...let's enjoy the fireball story that'll come later! Article: 333544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1146334112.952944.54330@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What is the value of a Hallicrafters R12 Bass Reflex speaker? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:02:51 -0500 wrote in message news:1146334112.952944.54330@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi All, > Times are getting tougher financially and I may have to part with my > Hallicrafters R12 Bass Reflex speaker. Can anyone give me a ballpark > estimate on its worth? I can supply photos in order to make the > evaluation easier. I tried looking on eBay, but apparently they don't > come up very often as there are none in there to compare against. The > R12 is in Chuck Dachais' book, but has no value listed. Thanks in > advance. > rgds, > Mark S. > If you list it on Ebay you'll find out exactly what it's worth. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 333545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <6gh5525u7kr6qhcsu9h31sugm87k4skt6b@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:12:30 GMT > > VERY common failure mode. The 6X4 was probably one of the least > reliable "empty state" rectifiers ever unleashed. Good for frying > your transformer, too. A fuse in time saves...uh...lots of rewinding! Are the military spec equivalent any better here? IIRC the 6202? Article: 333546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N. Morrow" Subject: TEAC A-4010S reel to reel - Need info about remote control Message-ID: <1EO4g.63824$_S7.17681@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:54:53 GMT Looking for the TEAC model number of the remote control unit that works with the A-4010S. The remote outlet on this model is an octal plug with 8 pins. Better yet would be a schematic diagram. Thanks in advance. N. Morrow email: morrowave333 at yahoo dot com Article: 333547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: Regen Question Date: 29 Apr 2006 13:16:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146091554.957786.174200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In article <1146091554.957786.174200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, dconley@lawfacts.com says... >My problem is that the regeneration often fades out. (the radio >essentially goes dead) and I have to touch the grid of the regen tube >to bring it back in. Be sure the plate ckt of the detector stage is bypassed for RF. Controlling regen by varying the plate voltage is a bit unusual, you might consider shunting the tickler coil with the variable resistor and see how that behaves. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 333548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:45:52 -0700 Message-ID: <8jj752t8g390rdfif42n05c5tuen1hmeos@4ax.com> References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <6gh5525u7kr6qhcsu9h31sugm87k4skt6b@4ax.com> On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:12:30 GMT, robert casey wrote: >Are the military spec equivalent any better here? IIRC the 6202? Yes...quite a bit in terms of reliability. Same goes for any AN/MIL tube spec. Sometimes, the two aren't exactly the same electrically, though, as in the 5881 vis à vis the 6L6GC. While the 5881 is of higher quality (usually...unless it's one of the later "rebadged" 6L6s) it has about the same Gm characterstics as the old 6L6GA, while the 6L6GC was good for a max of 500 V on the plate for a bit more power. The 5881 would be more precise on actual Gm sample to sample, and a good one, like a T-S or GE, would outlast the usual 6L6GC about three to one. Same basic caveats/advantages apply to rectifiers, as well. Article: 333549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:47:41 -0400 So what would a good value and type of fuse be? The tube manual gives a max output current for the 6x4/6x5 of 70ma (wonder how many radios exceeded this). Allowing for inrush current to a capacitor input filter I would assume that a 1/4 amp fast blow fuse might be good enough, or should one use a 1/2 amp fuse, or go with a 100ma slow blow (do they even make these?) I don't think a plate to plate short is too likely in a 6x5 or 6x4 tube, at least not as likely as a heater to cathode short so a single fuse in the ct should be ok. Still having TWO fuses, one per plate isn't going to be a big deal. Pigtail type fuses should be fine, you aren't going to be replacing these often. They now make solid state fuses (devices that open under overload and 'heal' when the short is removed), but I don't know if they are useful for HV low current (they are made for solid state devices, LV high current (as much as several amps anyway). Article: 333550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4453F786.BA2EC46A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:33:30 GMT ken scharf wrote: > > So what would a good value and type of fuse be? > The tube manual gives a max output current for the 6x4/6x5 > of 70ma (wonder how many radios exceeded this). > Allowing for inrush current to a capacitor input filter > I would assume that a 1/4 amp fast blow fuse might be > good enough, or should one use a 1/2 amp fuse, or go with > a 100ma slow blow (do they even make these?) > > I don't think a plate to plate short is too likely in > a 6x5 or 6x4 tube, at least not as likely as a heater to > cathode short so a single fuse in the ct should be ok. > Still having TWO fuses, one per plate isn't going to > be a big deal. Pigtail type fuses should be fine, you > aren't going to be replacing these often. > > They now make solid state fuses (devices that open under > overload and 'heal' when the short is removed), but I don't > know if they are useful for HV low current (they are made > for solid state devices, LV high current (as much as several > amps anyway). Keep in mind that common 3AG/AGC fuses are only rated to 250 extinguishing volts. Having a higher voltage across the fuse will cause a ball of plasma that will arc between the end caps till something else in the circuit opens. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:10:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20915-4453A613-49@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > From DB: > > >I predict 3 wheelers will become > >common on US highways within 15 > >years. > > WHAT?! Haven't you ever watched 'Mr. Bean'? :-) Three-wheelers are > notoriously prone to topple over at at the slightest provocation, unless > built with an unmanageably wide wheelbase. This was borne out in the > famous 'Dymaxion' car of 1933, only three of which were ever built. > Designed by Buckminster Fuller, it was lauded as the wave of the future, > but the inherent 'tipsy-ness' of the 3-wheel planform was its achilles > heel. Just some cents: The Goggomobil was not Italian, and always 4 wheels: http://www.goggomobil.com/ehome/ehome.html "The" British 3-wheeler, two wheels front: http://morgan3w.de/index.htm (many other amazing models and fotos on this site) "The" German 3-wheeler, one wheel front: http://www.tempo-dienst.de/neu/Geschichte/Museum/mus_0036.htm Made from 1933 until 2000 (since 1962 made in India, last improvement: 400 ccm Diesel engine) Why ranting about oil - radios are driven by electricity. Back to the roots! Georg Article: 333552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <4453F786.BA2EC46A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:30:05 -0400 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > ken scharf wrote: > >>So what would a good value and type of fuse be? >>The tube manual gives a max output current for the 6x4/6x5 >>of 70ma (wonder how many radios exceeded this). >>Allowing for inrush current to a capacitor input filter >>I would assume that a 1/4 amp fast blow fuse might be >>good enough, or should one use a 1/2 amp fuse, or go with >>a 100ma slow blow (do they even make these?) >> >>I don't think a plate to plate short is too likely in >>a 6x5 or 6x4 tube, at least not as likely as a heater to >>cathode short so a single fuse in the ct should be ok. >>Still having TWO fuses, one per plate isn't going to >>be a big deal. Pigtail type fuses should be fine, you >>aren't going to be replacing these often. >> >>They now make solid state fuses (devices that open under >>overload and 'heal' when the short is removed), but I don't >>know if they are useful for HV low current (they are made >>for solid state devices, LV high current (as much as several >>amps anyway). > > > > Keep in mind that common 3AG/AGC fuses are only rated to 250 > extinguishing volts. Having a higher voltage across the fuse will cause > a ball of plasma that will arc between the end caps till something else > in the circuit opens. > > AC or DC? Since the 6X5/6X4's max rating is about 250v anyway this shouldn't be a problem, in most cases the fuse won't be operating above that rating. (many radios using this tube have a plate winding rating of about 180-240 plate to plate.) Article: 333553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Philco 70 Cabinet Pieces Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:03:23 GMT I have a parts cabinet with the side trim. there is a trim peice and a spacer behind it, they look OK but one has a sliver missing from the front. Still need them? Dicks parts might be easier than sanding and fixing up my used ones. Keith "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:DpWdnYOajdvDJs7ZRVn-rQ@comcast.com... > You want to call on Dick Oliver in Goshen, Indiana. He makes all the > Philco Cathedral trims and can make any wood part for any radio. He even > makes whole cabinets from scratch! Dick is at dolivears@NOSPAMaol.com > (remove nospam) > > Mark Oppat > > > > "Chris F." wrote in message > news:KLK4g.392$A26.10860@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >> Does anyone have the two side trim pieces, that go along the bottom of a >> Philco 70 cabinet? Condition isn't important, I'm rebuilding this cabinet >> anyway and I seem to have lost the pieces that went with mine. >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address >> >> >> > > > Article: 333554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:03:09 -0500 Message-ID: <24543-44541ADD-63@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <20915-4453A613-49@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> I wish the BBC America tv channel (I get that tv channel with my DirecTV subscription) would start running those old Mr.Bean tv comedies again.(and Brittus,or however it is spelled,and Ouie! Ouie! too) After all,how much of Mrs.Bucket and Are You Being Served? can a person stand to watch anyway? Those three wheeler cars over there tipping over.It's a Hoot! cuhulin Article: 333555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:21:58 -0500 Message-ID: <24542-44541F46-196@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: I saw a lot of three wheeler pickup trucks (one wheel in the front,two wheels in the back) in Tokio,Japan.(1964) And in Vietnam,(1964) I rode around in a lot of human powered and gas engine powered three wheel taxis.I like three wheelers.I have most of the parts here (including a great running twin cylinder Briggs & Stratton 12 horsepower gasoline engine,I can buy an automatic torque conveter transmission from Comet,or a store which sells them) I need to build my own three wheeler vehicle (one wheel in front,two wheels in back,it would be plenty wide enough that it wouldn't likely tip over) to go to the food store once a week.I know how to weld and all that stuff,I own an electric welding machine and an oxyacetylene rig. Trollsville,Mississippi? Where is that? I dont get to anywhere near as many news groups as some of y'all do,(in fact,I can count them on one hand) I dont troll either anywhere as much as most people do on the internet.Go check Martinsville,Indiana (11947) and Bozeman,Montana (1956) Salina,Kansas (1957) and Scott Air Force Base,Illinois (1963) and Fort Hood,Texas (1965) for trollers. cuhulin Article: 333556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:11:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20915-4453A613-49@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:10:48 +0200, "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: >The Goggomobil was not Italian, and always 4 wheels: >http://www.goggomobil.com/ehome/ehome.html Excellent fact checking. For years, I had attached the "go-go-mobile" (also incorrect) name to an Italian 3 wheelers with a door that opened across the front. Very early 1960s, perhaps some Fiat project? Article: 333557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:17:58 GMT In article <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net>, oldcoot@webtv.net says... > > >Just musin' on the subject, but does fusing the primary really afford >reliable protection against a B+ short? in a word NO !!!! try it on a transformer supply.... just put your multi meter in the primary line... run the radio till its warmed up... then through a direct short across the HV winding and read the increase in primary current... not enough to blow your fuse to be sure! John k9uwa Article: 333558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:29:22 GMT In article , suptjudatcomcastdotnet says... > > Do a little MATH here ... 70 mils at 300 Volts = 21 watts of power now divide that 21 watts by 125 volt primary linevoltage = 0.168 Amps so your fuse in the primary is going to see additional current of 168 mils... thats IF .. and thats a BIG IF ... the transformer actually passes that additional load back to the primary... most of them are so under rated that a direct short on the HV winding won't raise the primary current enough to read on a meter... just SMOKES the transformer instead!.... You guys that are into searching the archives of the newsgroup... do a search on Transformer Needed for and see how many people show up here looking for power transformers... many are regulars that have or should have already read the past threads about killing transformers... The other thing that kills transformers is todays line voltage to our homes of 125 volts... they were NOT designed to take that voltage..even when they were new.... 60+ Years ago John k9uwa Article: 333559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <445454BA.EC60C6E5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos References: <20915-4453A613-49@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 06:11:00 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:10:48 +0200, "Georg Richter" > <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: > > >The Goggomobil was not Italian, and always 4 wheels: > >http://www.goggomobil.com/ehome/ehome.html > > Excellent fact checking. For years, I had attached the "go-go-mobile" > (also incorrect) name to an Italian 3 wheelers with a door that opened > across the front. Very early 1960s, perhaps some Fiat project? The Isetta? The car Steve Erkel drove on the tv comedy "Family Matters" a few years back. http://www.isetta.de/ -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:25:32 -0700 Message-ID: <13975-4454585C-12@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: >From DB: >I had attached the "go-go-mobile" (also >incorrect) name to an Italian 3 wheelers >with a door that opened across the front. >Very early 1960s, perhaps some Fiat >project? Isetta. From the early 50s. The intro model was a 3-wheeler, but proved vulnerable to rollovers. Production models went to 4 wheels, with the two rear ones set 19" apart. At first glance it still sorta looks like 3 wheels. oc Article: 333561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Cartridge recorder Message-ID: <_3_4g.28953$nA3.9634@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:55:38 GMT They aren't so bad. Not like the 3M or other monsters. Just big cassettes. No worse to work on than any other tape recorder (low-to-mid end) of the time. You can even refill the the carts with modern tape and get really decent sound from them. (Not RTR grade, but good.) The electronics are simple enough. Nothing exotic. If you can fix a radio you can fix them. Here's one new-in-the-box: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9719940827 I'm tempted myself. Ray "Jon" wrote in message news:UU04g.6216$ZQ3.3660@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:cnW3g.34486$cY3.13201@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... >> Someone here was looking for these a while back. Lost their email. >> Here's a nice-looking one if they're still here: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9717492380 >> > > That was me. I've heard nothing but horror stories from people about > trying to get them to work, so I'm a little leery about adding one to my > collection now. It wouldn't be any fun to have one if I couldn't use it. > :) > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > > Article: 333562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <12524qidkicq548@corp.supernews.com> <1146177399.401567.197850@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1252n0jrhft827b@corp.supernews.com> <1146185670.530169.296230@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: CHECK the Shipping First Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:02:24 GMT He has posted that there's something wrong with the calculator and shipping will be exact. This is true enough. EBay's calculator has been a big topic on the technical forums. It's pretty hosed for random auctions. Nobody knows why. Unfortunately, once your auction is up you can't do anything with it. Either live with it or cancel and try again. Ray "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1146185670.530169.296230@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I politely asked the seller to confirm S/H of $108 to 80013. > Article: 333563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:53:59 -0400 Message-ID: <1259crbet7s8t6c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> <1146397864.304373.289380@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Brian wrote: > > Still, not all radio transformers or rectifiers behave this way. The > fact that the 1A primary fuse in my Airline 62-311 blew when its 5Z4 > shorted is a counterexample. I'd like to experiment by shorting the B+ > on several of my radios, but it's not worth the risk of wiping out a > transformer or rectifier. > I did just that experiment. Can't remember which radio but a 1A fast blow fuse primary did indeed pop immediately. Had another one where the secondary and filament wires shorted coming out of the xfmr. It was in operation so I can't say how long it might have taken to blow but it too popped. I suspect there's more than the simple math here. If the xfmr is hefty enough maybe it won't allow for blowing a primary fuse but "hefty enough" isn't always the case in old radios. I would think that in a typical xfmr the voltage would drop way down during dead short conditions and the current would go way up...and this would be seen on the primary as well. -Bill Article: 333564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:06:51 -0500 Message-ID: <20715-4454B66B-156@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I have an old Popular Science magazine here which dates back to the 1960's.In the magazine is an article about a new model Gogomobile (I like that name) car.To go in reverse gear,the engine reverses rotation. When I was in the Army at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963, (ARADCOM) I bought a 1958 BMW Isetta car from an Air Force Office at one of the Aircraft Hangers at Scott.(I kept the big Manual that was with that little bitty car,it is sitting in a footlocker in my bedroom closet right now.The original owner of that car was a woman in Germany) I remember seeing some Airplane engine spark plugs on a work bench there in that Aircraft Hanger,I thought,those sure are some strange lookng spark plugs.You probally own many,many books pertaining to radios.I own many,many books, (almost all of them are hard back books) stacks and stacks of books,pertaining to antique cars and trucks.I need to buy volumes one and two of,All American Wonder. cuhulin Article: 333565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: <20715-4454BBA1-157@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1146135197.492188.256280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> You got that right,CAINE.Put a big old 1960's (or earlier years cars) Cadillac or Buick or similar car up agains't a little cravker box of a so-called modern day car of nowdays,and those big old Tanks will Win every time. cuhulin Article: 333566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: custom cabinets for console stereos ? Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: <20715-4454BC56-159@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: You better safely drain the juice out of them capacitors first,or they can knock you for a loop. cuhulin Article: 333567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:49:15 -0500 Message-ID: <20715-4454C05B-167@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <445454BA.EC60C6E5@earthlink.net> Yesireebobtail.My little 1958 BMW Isetta was a solid red color.At Scott Air Force Base,Illinois,,,, some of those guys would pick up my little car (it only weighed not much over 700 pounds,dripping wet) and hide it over behind one of those evergreen bushies/trees at Scott.I would be steppin outside and wondering,Where is my little car now? Let me tell you,you wouldn't want to drive a little bitty light weight car like that across that auld Eads Bridge that spanned the Mississippi River between East St.Louis,Illinois and St.Louis,Missouri.(especially in rainy weather and that Bridge is wet) I found out I was going to Vietnam.I sold my car to Captain Ryan,U.S.Army. www.ryans.org cuhulin Article: 333568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:15:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <445454BA.EC60C6E5@earthlink.net> <20715-4454C05B-167@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:49:15 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >Yesireebobtail.My little 1958 BMW Isetta was a solid red color.At Scott >Air Force Base,Illinois My stepson was stationed there. I flew in there a time or two in a C-141. One of the last of the "big" bases left anymore. March AFB is gone, so are many others. >Let me tell you,you wouldn't want to drive a little bitty light weight >car like that across that auld Eads Bridge that spanned the Mississippi >River between East St.Louis,Illinois and St.Louis,Missouri.(especially >in rainy weather and that Bridge is wet) Yes, but now, it'd fit inside the arch! Article: 333569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:12:05 -0500 Message-ID: <20715-4454C5B5-172@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <445454BA.EC60C6E5@earthlink.net> Scott Air Force Base,Illinois.Year of our Lord,1963.There was a WAF gal who worked at the U.S.O.at Scott.She was usually bugging me to sell her my little bitty 1958 (Lawdy,how she bugged me!) 1958 BMW Isetta car. Sooooo, you got a little bitty jobbbb in a little bity cityyyy,,,,, it's alrighttttt to be a little bittyyyy,,,,,, I still like wearrrring my old black hat,,, riding my kids around on my back,,,,,, www.us963.com cuhulin Article: 333570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: Subject: Re: Philco 70 Cabinet Pieces Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:40:51 GMT Depends on what both you and Dick are asking for the pieces. I'd prefer some original pieces, even if it means patching them up, as they would be more likely to stain evenly with the rest of my cabinet. Contact me by Email and let me know what you want for them, and how much it would cost to ship to Canada. Thanks. "Keith Park" wrote in message news:v1U4g.4798$Gg.1109@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >I have a parts cabinet with the side trim. there is a trim peice and a >spacer behind it, they look OK but one has a sliver missing from the front. >Still need them? Dicks parts might be easier than sanding and fixing up my >used ones. > > > > Keith > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:DpWdnYOajdvDJs7ZRVn-rQ@comcast.com... >> You want to call on Dick Oliver in Goshen, Indiana. He makes all the >> Philco Cathedral trims and can make any wood part for any radio. He even >> makes whole cabinets from scratch! Dick is at dolivears@NOSPAMaol.com >> (remove nospam) >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> >> >> "Chris F." wrote in message >> news:KLK4g.392$A26.10860@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >>> Does anyone have the two side trim pieces, that go along the bottom of a >>> Philco 70 cabinet? Condition isn't important, I'm rebuilding this >>> cabinet >>> anyway and I seem to have lost the pieces that went with mine. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > Article: 333571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Telegraph Paper Value Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:43:24 GMT A friend recently gave me a huge roll (about 5lbs) of old blank Telegraph paper. It was by Canadian Pacific and measured about 8 1/2" wide. He was cleaning out an estate, and said there was a whole case of this unused paper that was going to the trash. Is it worth saving? I couldn't find anything like it on Ebay by which to judge its value. If it's of value, I need to know very soon so he can pick it up before it's gone. -- To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address Article: 333572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4454D3DD.7070508@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value References: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:12:34 GMT Actually, I suspect it's for use with a Teletype(tm) machine. And yeah, you could get rid of it on eBay, you may have to relist it a few times. But there are still some people running the old machines that are looking for paper for them. Jeff "Real keyboards have green keycaps" Chris F. wrote: > A friend recently gave me a huge roll (about 5lbs) of old blank Telegraph > paper. It was by Canadian Pacific and measured about 8 1/2" wide. He was > cleaning out an estate, and said there was a whole case of this unused paper > that was going to the trash. Is it worth saving? I couldn't find anything > like it on Ebay by which to judge its value. If it's of value, I need to > know very soon so he can pick it up before it's gone. > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 333573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: oil rant- was custom cabinets for console stereos Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:15:04 -0500 Message-ID: <20715-4454D478-182@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Scott Air Force Base,Illinois still rocks.Be right back,let me go hunt up a certain website,,, hang on a minute,,, Here T'IS,, http://ed-thelen.org/stories.html I am not Ed Thelen.But I reckon Ed Thelen is a good guy.I am not in love with guys though,I likes them wimmins.International Wimmins too. Dont blame it on me. cuhulin Article: 333574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Emerson Tube Radio References: <1146353088.907100.213780@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1146407078.011417.254820@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:59:24 -0700 In the vernacular of the trade, I think that is a 7-tube radio - the eye tube counts as one. Bill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New to Tubes wrote: > i uploaded come pictures of my Emerson. I hope this will help. > Copy and paste this link in to internet explorer > > http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gmcmandan/album?.dir=6bfcre2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gmcmandan/my_photos > Article: 333575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:33:08 -0700 Message-ID: <7lp9529cjeaj5r6024f2njtcfnffqmrtu3@4ax.com> References: On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:43:24 GMT, "Chris F." wrote: > A friend recently gave me a huge roll (about 5lbs) of old blank Telegraph >paper. It was by Canadian Pacific and measured about 8 1/2" wide. He was >cleaning out an estate, and said there was a whole case of this unused paper >that was going to the trash. Is it worth saving? Railroadiana and teletype collectors will pay well for that, I'm sure. Article: 333576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Philco 70 Cabinet Pieces Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:35:24 -0500 Message-ID: <6115-4454E74C-256@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Zenith never did make anything that was any good,,, leave alone hansom. cuhulin Article: 333577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:33:15 -0500 Message-ID: <6117-4454E6CB-21@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <4454D3DD.7070508@socal.rr.com> I wouldn't do ebay on a bet! cuhulin Article: 333578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:32:07 -0500 Message-ID: <6115-4454E687-253@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <4454D3DD.7070508@socal.rr.com> I own one of those old ticker tape machines.I bought it at a Salvation Army thrift store about forty years ago,I only gave three dollars for it.It is in real good shape too.It has like a glass dome shaped thingy on it.Telegraph or Ticker Tape Paper balue? How would I know? cuhulin Article: 333579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:05:36 -0500 Message-ID: <6115-4454EE60-267@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <7lp9529cjeaj5r6024f2njtcfnffqmrtu3@4ax.com> My old buddy and a friend of his are Railroad nuts.Is that Railroad related Telegraph paper? They might be interested. cuhulin Article: 333580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:19:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7lp9529cjeaj5r6024f2njtcfnffqmrtu3@4ax.com> <6115-4454EE60-267@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:05:36 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >My old buddy and a friend of his are Railroad nuts.Is that Railroad >related Telegraph paper? They might be interested. Canadian Pacific Railway is a railroad, last time I looked. Article: 333581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <7lp9529cjeaj5r6024f2njtcfnffqmrtu3@4ax.com> <6115-4454EE60-267@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:55:40 GMT It may very well be related to CP rail. I should mention that the rolls are not 8 1/2" wide, the paper is that width. Kind of like a continuous roll of printer paper. The only telegraph / teletype paper I can find on Ebay is very narrow. I will call the guy and try to have the stuff saved, I'm sure there's someone that would be interested. wrote in message news:6115-4454EE60-267@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > My old buddy and a friend of his are Railroad nuts.Is that Railroad > related Telegraph paper? They might be interested. > cuhulin > Article: 333582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:55:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1u1a52honeoc4bebt8suud6m3sdsh3vh0d@4ax.com> References: <7lp9529cjeaj5r6024f2njtcfnffqmrtu3@4ax.com> <6115-4454EE60-267@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:55:40 GMT, "Chris F." wrote: > It may very well be related to CP rail. It is. Canadian Pacific Railway = CP Rail. Much of the old telegraph open wire system once the mainstay of CPR (and CNR, actually) communications was still standing in BC and Alberta last I was there. Article: 333583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:58:57 -0500 Message-ID: <10936-445508F1-48@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: 8 1/2 inches wide? That isn't Telegraph paper.Not that I think I know of anyway.I could go measure the width of that roll of toilet paper in my bathroom ''library'',,, but we all know about how wide our (oooops) toilet paper is. cuhulin Article: 333584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Fisher 500c update-another bad resistor in preamp-thanks John References: <1146319307.046681.312810@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <6lg752lj1s033v69q4ob5fknhm3skam4lr@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:19:35 GMT > >>another bad resistor- will solder a new one in and see what happens- >>thanks John Stone, et. al. ! > > > Just have to ask yourself...WHY did these components fry? Don't tell > him...let's enjoy the fireball story that'll come later! Though I would have said it more tactfully, you do need to figure out why that resistor fried. Resistors rarely fail like that by themselves; the circuit it's in is drawing way too much current, and that needs to be fixed or the replacement will also burn out. Article: 333585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:33:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <10936-445508F1-48@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:58:57 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >8 1/2 inches wide? That isn't Telegraph paper Yes, it is, more commonly known these days as "TTY paper." Article: 333586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:34:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:15:55 -0400, "gkb" wrote: >I believe its teletype paper and worth about 10 bucks a box. Stuff is easy >to find. Not pre-printed iwth CPR headers, I'll betcha! Article: 333587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: <_3_4g.28953$nA3.9634@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Cartridge recorder Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:41:42 -0700 "Rune" wrote in message news:_3_4g.28953$nA3.9634@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... They aren't so bad. Not like the 3M or other monsters. Just big cassettes. No worse to work on than any other tape recorder (low-to-mid end) of the time. You can even refill the the carts with modern tape and get really decent sound from them. (Not RTR grade, but good.) The electronics are simple enough. Nothing exotic. If you can fix a radio you can fix them. Here's one new-in-the-box: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9719940827 I'm tempted myself. Ray "Jon" wrote in message news:UU04g.6216$ZQ3.3660@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:cnW3g.34486$cY3.13201@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... >> Someone here was looking for these a while back. Lost their email. >> Here's a nice-looking one if they're still here: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9717492380 >> > > That was me. I've heard nothing but horror stories from people about > trying to get them to work, so I'm a little leery about adding one to my > collection now. It wouldn't be any fun to have one if I couldn't use it. > :) > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > Wilcox-Gay (Recordio) displayed a cartridge recorder at a trade show, but I don't think it ever went into production. k35454. Article: 333588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N. Morrow" References: <1EO4g.63824$_S7.17681@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <1146411314.178563.158560@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TEAC A-4010S reel to reel - Need info about remote control Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:48:32 GMT > "N. Morrow" wrote: > Looking for the TEAC model number of the remote control unit that works with > the A-4010S. The remote outlet on this model is an octal plug with 8 pins. > Better yet would be a schematic diagram. Thanks in advance. > > N. Morrow > email: morrowave333 at yahoo dot com > "Beloved Leader" replied: > I think I have one of those, but I can't remember where I put it. Yes, > it has reached that point. At any rate, I do have at least one Teac of > that era that uses the plug-in remote. I bought it at a church rummage > sale for $1. The price was so low, because no one could figure out what > was wrong with it. Once I got it home, I figured out which two > terminals on the octal jack had to be shorted together for the machine > to function. That did the trick. > > To answer your question, I do not have the remote or the schematic. I'd > have to dig out the repaired machine to see which terminals have to be > shorted, but I recall that you can make that determination visually in > an instant. > > Wait: I recall there's a big Teac tape deck site on the 'Net. What is > that address? I have it bookmarked, but on another computer. > > I'm not much use today. > > Mabye this is the site I'm thinking of: > http://www.dantiques.com/tapedecks/faq.htm > There's already a 4010S discussion going on, too. > Me again. > http://www.obsoletemedia.com/tapedecks/remoteplugs.htm Thanks for the reply. I had already been to those pages. The remote plug installed in my A-4010S recorder looks just like the one that is listed for the A-4010SL: http://www.obsoletemedia.com/tapedecks/images/24943plug.jpg with 2 pairs of pins shorted instead of just 1 pair. Interestingly, the plug looks like it's molded together or sonically welded. Well, that's how they would probably do it today, but this was 1969. I held onto the cap and twisted the part with the pins and it just unscrewed! It does look like TEAC put a little dab of some kind of wimpy glue on the threads that had nicely dried out sometime in the last 37 years. By the way, the recorder works fine, I either wanted to find a remote for it or try to cobble one together. N. Morrow Article: 333589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Zenith C845 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:08:21 -0400 Message-ID: <125a69ph8ukibf4@corp.supernews.com> References: <1146420707.691948.229640@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> trinlay wrote: > other vintage and collectable stuff. Anyone got an idea on what it's > insurance value is? Or what it would cost to replace? It sounds great. > I just checked completed auctions on ebay and there was one that sold for $40 and one that didn't sell for 9.99. No offense, but I think $40 would be on the high side. -Bill Article: 333590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:55:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> <1146397864.304373.289380@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:37:58 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote: >Every time this subject comes up here, the claim is made that the >transformers saturation characteristics affect the current draw when the >secondary is shorted. I have never been able to get a grip on this, can >anyone out there explain how this happens? Judging from your earlier posts, I had you figured correct as a dope. Now, it's confirmed! Go do some reading, dummy. "Electromagnetic coupling" and "transformer theory" would be a good start. Article: 333591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:56:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> <1146397864.304373.289380@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1259crbet7s8t6c@corp.supernews.com> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:42:35 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote: >Maybe I'm not following your reasoning here, but with all other things >being equal wouldn't a "hefty" transformer be more likely to blow a >primary fuse if the secondary was shorted, than would a more typical weak >kneed transformer because of its higher copper losses? What is your >reasoning on this matter? Magnetic coupling losses, dumbbell. Article: 333592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <7lp9529cjeaj5r6024f2njtcfnffqmrtu3@4ax.com> <6115-4454EE60-267@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:42:56 -0400 "Chris F." wrote in message news:wS65g.941$A26.24997@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > It may very well be related to CP rail. I should mention that the rolls > are not 8 1/2" wide, the paper is that width. Kind of like a continuous roll > of printer paper. The only telegraph / teletype paper I can find on Ebay is > very narrow. > Teletype (teleprinter) paper IS 8.5" wide, in a continuous roll. The narrow stuff is intended for use on reperforators--which actually punches the code into the strips for retransmission. Pete > Article: 333593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:43:53 -0400 "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:e94a52t4r4iofkvfnojfl7f1hd7qe9mcth@4ax.com... > On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:15:55 -0400, "gkb" wrote: > > >I believe its teletype paper and worth about 10 bucks a box. Stuff is easy > >to find. > > Not pre-printed iwth CPR headers, I'll betcha! Yeah, that will add a nickel to the price. RailFans ain't that nuts. Article: 333594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Still need help with schematic for this Brunswick radio Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 06:50:42 +0900 Message-ID: http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00795s.jpg http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00805s.jpg Article: 333595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1146395765.140952.86280@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AWA B-67 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 18:10:04 -0400 Message-ID: <445535bc$0$76686$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> http://www.transistor.org/collection/AWA/awa3.html Uses a 2362 battery ( I think), which I'm going to be making a repro of sometime soon. Bill "Dave" wrote in message news:1146395765.140952.86280@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone give me any information on the AWA B-^& Transistor radio > from Australia? All I know is that it runs on 9 volts, was made > somewhere in the 60s, and is a pretty small radio. I have had one of > these for about 4 weeks or so and have looked on Google but cannot find > anything. Please help. Also hopw many transistors does it have as I > am not an expert in radios and don't know a transistor from a capacitor. > Article: 333596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:25:38 GMT See attached image.... " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:vca5g.6001$8q.2141@dukeread08... > > "DeserTBoB" wrote in message > news:e94a52t4r4iofkvfnojfl7f1hd7qe9mcth@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:15:55 -0400, "gkb" wrote: >> >> >I believe its teletype paper and worth about 10 bucks a box. Stuff is > easy >> >to find. >> >> Not pre-printed iwth CPR headers, I'll betcha! > > Yeah, that will add a nickel to the price. 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S]CQ0`/B1\2^..=0T__P"0ZEX.#ZO^OD5#,ZL-DOQ_S''_`(('_L?% MP[?$CXE,5Z ZAI^/_2.IC_P0>_9#V",?$7XCJ!W6_P!/!_\`2.G]4AYA_:E; MLOQ_S(6_X((?L@,VYOB7\2RR_'_,B_P"'!W['V,?\+)^) M?U.HZ>?_`&SIP_X()_L?A=H^)'Q*`]/[0T__`.0Z'@X2ZO\`KY!'-*L7>R_' M_,EC_P""#G[(40(3XC?$CD8R=0L#@?\`@'4?_#A/]C\#'_"Q_B5CT_M#3_\` MY#J5@8)-7?\`7R-/[8K/[,?N?^8UO^""'['[9'_"ROB6,^FH:?\`_(=(O_! MW]CY3D?$OXF _P#81T__`.0Z<<'".S9G+-*LNB_'_,E7_@@S^R"BA5^(WQ) M7TU"P_\`D.E'_!!K]D)3D?$?XD_0W^G_`/R'4O TWU?X?Y&BSBO%6LOQ_P`P M'_!!O]D'>'?XB_$AB.S:A8$?^D=))_P09_9"D.7^(_Q)('0'4-/('_DG51P< M([7_`*^1#S:M+HOQ_P`Q%_X(+_L@*0?^%B_$CC_J(:?_`/(=17W_``0,_8\O MH/L\GQ)^):)G.$U'3^OXV9H6#@I/]BP=/B?\4<^O]I:=_\`(5'_`!#Q?L6 References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <4453F786.BA2EC46A@earthlink.net> <1146430377.480406.97970@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:57:30 +0100 Message-ID: <44554181$0$33893$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "nesesu" wrote in message news:1146430377.480406.97970@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Um, the 6X4/6X5 are rated for a PIV 1250V which sets the maximum RMS > plate voltage of 325V. In a typical application the plate voltages are > in the 250-325V RMS per plate range, BUT that means a peak voltage of > 353-460 V and, worse, the current in the centre tap is DC not AC so a > shorted cathode to filament in the rectifier, when it blows a centre > tap fuse, will place some 300-450 VDC across the opening fuse, much > more than enough to sustain a healthy arc in a 250V rated fuse! > I have had in my collection some examples of 6X5 nad 5Y3 which have > melted down from internal arcing to a state where both plates are > melted together and the cathode/filament is long gone to a puddle in > the bottom, so plate to plate shorts are a real occurance IF the input > power is not cut early in the failure. > > Neil S. > But with an H/K short it wouldn't be DC, because the short is effectively across the reservoir capacitor, so it would just be unidirectional pulses, allowing the arc to extinguish at the zero points. My slight concern would be whether the insulation of the secondary would be happy with the CT fuse opening. As an aside, 1.25-inch fuses were quite happily used on the mains input in sets on 200-250V DC supplies here. Martin (Stockport) Article: 333598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Wanted Philco 16 escutcheon Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:52:40 -0600 Message-ID: <351-44554DC8-130@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Need the dial escutcheon for a big 16 tombstone . Looks alot like this one http://radioatticarchives.com/images/p/Philco_16B_Hoch.jpg . Mine has 2 speed tuning knobs and shadow meter . Also if you have a trashed or good cabinet for sale i would like to hear from you Thanks Ken Article: 333599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: GE A-53 Tombstone Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:55:39 -0600 Message-ID: <350-44554E7B-462@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <5fWdnXASpaMspMjZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@giganews.com> Replace the filters only then try again , also clean the controls and tube sockets . If you replace every cap at once its easy to make mistakes . Article: 333600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 00:17:38 GMT In article , suptjudatcomcastdotnet says... > > >So what is your solution? for 6X5 tubes I replace them with a pair of diodes stuffed inside an old octal tube base ... no mods required to the radio. I avoid later radios with 6x4's in them if I can .. if not .. install the diodes under the tube socket and leave out the tube. Equipment Fuses at various ma currents are available for installation in the HV curcuit. John k9uwa Article: 333601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! References: <1146271429.018530.299240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 00:30:24 GMT ANother answer to H-K shorts is to provide the 6X4 its own 6.3VAC supply independent of anything else. Namely a filament transformer. Or do the silicon diode and resistor route. Article: 333602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eric Belanger" Subject: WTB : Power transformer for a Victor RE-57 (R-35, R-39, R-34, RE-73) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:40:57 -0400 Hi all, I'm looking for a good power transformer for a Victor RE-57. The transformer's part number is 10917 and it was used in models R-35, R-39, RE-57, R-34, RE-73 Thanks, Eric eric_belanger HAT hotmail.com Article: 333603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jeremy" References: Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Message-ID: <56e5g.1247$g01.930@trnddc01> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 02:10:09 GMT "Chris F." wrote in message news:g245g.844$A26.23970@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > A friend recently gave me a huge roll (about 5lbs) of old blank Telegraph > paper. It was by Canadian Pacific and measured about 8 1/2" wide. He was > cleaning out an estate, and said there was a whole case of this unused > paper that was going to the trash. Is it worth saving? I couldn't find > anything like it on Ebay by which to judge its value. If it's of value, I > need to know very soon so he can pick it up before it's gone. > > -- > To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address > It sounds like you have rolled paper used in TELEX machines. Telex was a service for high-volume users where the telegraph company put a teletype machine right in the customer's premises, so they could send and receive telegrams without having to physically courier them back and forth to the telegraph office. And they could communicate directly with other Telex users simply by dialing their Telex number and transmitting their message directly, without having to send it as a telegram. The Telex machines were typically left on 24/7, and it was common for them to receive messages during the night, from correspondents located halfway around the world. Thus the reason for the rolls of paper like you have--the machine could be left unattended and could keep on printing Telexes as long as the roll held out. Telex was discontinued by Western Union some years ago, when they went to their EasyLink system (computer-based, similar to email). Western Union has also decommissioned telegrams, like the ones that were delivered to your door. They transmitted the last one several months ago. The Canadian telegraph operators no longer send Telexes either. Banks worldwide continue to use Telex, but they are on the Swift Network, and modern Telexes look more like email than the old Teletypewriter messages. So your paper may have some value to a collector, but it has no current "real-world" use that I know of. You could probably get $50 for it if you could connect with a collector on eBay. Article: 333604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jeremy" References: Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 02:12:30 GMT "gkb" wrote in message news:SYadnREGnbm2-sjZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@gwi.net... > The paper I have says B&A Railroad on it. B&A Is Bangor and Arostock. So > you > can have it with a railroad label. Mater of fact, its continues all down > one > side. > > -- > Regards, > Gary... > "DeserTBoB" wrote in message > news:e94a52t4r4iofkvfnojfl7f1hd7qe9mcth@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:15:55 -0400, "gkb" wrote: >> >> >I believe its teletype paper and worth about 10 bucks a box. Stuff is > easy >> >to find. >> >> Not pre-printed iwth CPR headers, I'll betcha! > > Bangor and Aroostock filed for bankruptcy. Deadbeats! Article: 333605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: RCA Victor 710V2 From: lherault@bu.edu Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 02:40:14 GMT A friend would like to find a good home for a 710V2. It is AM/FM from 1948, and has a 78 changer in it. The changer has a narrow topped center post. The cabinet is in nice shape. We did not plug it in to see what smokes though 8-). It is in Warwick RI. I don't think he's looking for a lot of money for it either. Any info on it would be appreciated as well. Was it a popular item? Good performer? Thanks, Ron L Article: 333606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <445578D4.702F18C1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value References: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 02:57:29 GMT "Chris F." wrote: > > See attached image.... > > [Image] Chris, this is not a binaries newsgroup. Pictures are to be posted on: news:alt.binaries.pictures.radio so that they will propagate properly. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 333607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:58:27 -0700 Message-ID: <18583-44557953-204@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <44554181$0$33893$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> >From Martin: >My slight concern would be whether the >insulation of the secondary would be >happy with the CT fuse opening. I used to build full-wave doubler supplies using a radio power tranny, a 5U4 and a pair of TV damper tubes. 800V was taken off the 5U4's filament, and 400V was taken off at the hv ct. The *entire* hv winding was that high above ground, and performed quite happily. European transformers might be different in the layering sequence of their windings, though. Bill(oc) Article: 333608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Ronette Cartridge pin connections Message-ID: <8f0b529inq8f1l0sp1boqbbgu0d25ju9qe@4ax.com> References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1146451965.152635.34720@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:38:42 GMT On 30 Apr 2006 19:52:45 -0700, "Gerry" wrote: >Thanks, Brian, for the info on the pins. When I first connected them >as you described, it didn't work. Turns out this VM Phono (VM Model >357, marketed out of Canada under "Seabreeze" brand name) is wired >differently: Red is R+, Green is R-, White is L+, Black is L-. Had to >pop the turntable off to see how they were connected: > >R+ to pin No. 1 Red >R- to pin No. 2 Green >L+ to pin No. 3 White >L- to Pin No. 4 Black Sorry about that, Gerry. I think that I looked cross-eyed at the VM that I had on the bench at the time, because it is as you describe. At least I got the Ronette connections right. ;-) Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 333609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:37:53 -0500 Message-ID: <7226-44558291-246@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: What you need is some of that toilet paper with pictures of g.w.bush's Monkey looking mug on it.And one of those plastic thingys you put in the Urinals with a mug shot of g.w.bush's Monkey looking mug on there.Get me driff? cuhulin (y'all want to know about that Bell South's womans twin sister next door to me about that big g.w.bush decal on her rear truck window? Texas Has Lost Another Idiot!) I love that gal. cuhulin Article: 333610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Emerson Tube Radio References: <1146353088.907100.213780@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1146407078.011417.254820@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1146447289.036152.17980@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:48:25 GMT New to Tubes wrote: > yes, there is one in the eye, i have not taken it out to look yet, any > clue what model this might be? > To add a little confusion, there used to be kits sold that would enable people to add eye tubes to existing radios. Article: 333611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:40:58 -0500 Message-ID: <7227-4455834A-52@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: My old teletype machine (it still has some of that paper in it,Lusitania) takes that narrow paper. cuhulin Article: 333612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:49:22 -0500 Message-ID: <7227-44558542-53@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: My old Railroad nuts buddy retired out of the U.S.Navy,about thirty years.My other old Railroad nuts buddy was in the U.S.Air Force.My old Railroad nuts buddy's Uncle was a Conductor/Train Driver on the auld Fernwood Gulf Railroad Logging Train,,, many,many,many Moons ago.I know more aboot Railroad Trains than I think I want to know! Steam Trains Live Forever! cuhulin Article: 333613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:55:55 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >gotta fight ya on that line voltage issue, John. I dont think its that >important, usually. Most homes today still run under 120V, at least around >here. Its pretty rare they run above that... but, I know it DOES happen... >probably only 5% of homes have that. > > >Mark Oppat > Well a check of many of my local buddies around here shows 122 to 125 volts in the Ft Wayne, IN area... the place we are in Florida.. its 121 volts... At 120V many of the Zeniths still run too hot to keep me happy. I would rather spend a couple bucks extra to install a resistor or a boost buck transformer and see that radio run on 100 to 105 volts.. nice and cool Yes you probably sacrifice a little in gain by dropping the line voltage..so what.. I would rather the radio survives another 60+ years than have it play a bit louder.. John k9uwa Article: 333614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:57:57 -0500 Message-ID: <7226-44558745-248@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <56e5g.1247$g01.930@trnddc01> Go to a Western Union place at a H.E.B.food store in San Antonio,Texas and place a Westren Union thingy.[[(Blue Dodge Van From Mexico)]] I wish you Luck on speedy service.I was about ready to camp out in front of that H.E.B.food store in San Antonio,Texas in 1993,and go find me a galfriend. www.gitpicker.com cuhulin Article: 333615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1146322266.177111.54380@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <18583-44538859-21@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <5d47525n3ed6e693qa9or94bijeajd25pl@4ax.com> <1146397864.304373.289380@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 6X4 self-distructs! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 04:06:09 GMT > Every time this subject comes up here, the claim is made that the > transformers saturation characteristics affect the current draw when the > secondary is shorted. I have never been able to get a grip on this, can > anyone out there explain how this happens? I was always under the > impression that saturation was largely a function of primary voltage and > frequency and not of the load on the transformer. I would think that the > tendency toward saturation would actually be reduced with a shorted > secondary due to the increased copper losses in primary circuit reducing > the effective primary voltage? > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ I get kind of cloudy here too. However, a good Hysteresis curve for a given transformer would show the saturation points on a given Xfmr. I remember creating these charts in a collage lab. One may have to generate those curves him or her self. But defiantly creatable for a given Xfmer. A couple of Si diodes seem a lot more economical both $$ and time to me. Paul. Article: 333616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Still need help with schematic for this Brunswick radio Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 13:14:27 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1146454213.966366.36980@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Dave" wrote in message news:1146454213.966366.36980@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > What is the model number As best I can read the tag, it's a Model #1050 Article: 333617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:07:54 -0500 Message-ID: <7226-4455899A-250@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <445578D4.702F18C1@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell.God Bless You,Brother.(WELLCOME HOME) I done it too,, Service to my Country.Except,I was stupid enough to Join up.RA (Regular Army) Serial Number,,,, RA 14808903) That's what it said on them little white cloth thingys on me Army duds.Other thingy said,RYAN. www.ryans.org cuhulin (RYAN,in Trollsville,Mississippi) Article: 333618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: WTB" Zenith 6B107 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <15980-4444797B-2328@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 04:18:32 GMT In article , k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF says... > > >My Local friend that wants one...is NOT afraid to spend MONEY to >buy one... its just a matter of finding someone that wants to part >with a radio and speaker.. > >John k9uwa > still looking for a Zenith 6B107 if anyone has any leads.... please email us... thanks John k9uwa