Article: 334258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:17:23 GMT Well, well, I've got contraband! Yes, this can has been around for many years, so obviously it has become illegal since I've picked it up. What a feeling; I can clean up rubber while y'all can't! Maybe I can sell it on the black market for $1,000 an ounce . . . But now I'm curious -- what's the reason? Is there some environmental concern, just like oil wells, that prohibit us from doing it in the "dirty ol US" while it's perfectly fine to do it in every other country? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Syl" wrote in message news:%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net... > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07... >> I'll second the vote on Fedron; that's exactly what I use. Many, many >> years ago when I worked for Xerox in DC, they came out with a cleaning >> kit for typewriter platens. It was basically a pad with Fedron in it. >> Squeeze the back of the pad, and it would break a tiny reservoir inside, >> soaking the pad with Fedron. Then wipe the platen clean. It worked >> extremely well, but had one side effect -- it has a sweet smell. I >> personally like it, but every time I used it the entire office would get >> mad over the "horrible smell." >> >> I'm set. Somewhere along the line I managed to pick up a gallon can of >> Fedron. For me, that's a lifetime supply. It is (was) used by print >> shops for cleaning metal and rubber parts. Who knows if the government >> has jumped in and banned it because it works -- but who cares, I've got >> mine. > > It IS banned from the US. I doubt you can still get any legally off the > counter. > > In Canada, when the stuff is bought, the buyer must sign a form stating he > will > NOT export the product for _any_ reason and the product is tracked (from > the original container, you can of course relabel it..) Fine is extremely > "expensive". > It is on the same ban list as Freon. _Maybe_ some states still allow it > but I doubt it. > > Syl > Article: 334259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: you guys crack me up Message-ID: References: <1147520169.261994.172340@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:19:23 -0400 On 13 May 2006 04:36:09 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://buy0.audiogon.com/cgia/fsb.pl?vint&1&ctg&st1 > >you whine like little girls when someone fixes up a Fisher 500c amp and >sells it, then you FLOOD the same damn Audiogon site with your own junk >POS radios, because you had no idea that site sold items so well > >you guys obviously have a hard time with online auctions, eh ? > >this message is for the trolls like graham and steven, not the truly >knowledgeable people that helped me out here. > >there definitely is a difference. Zenith clock radio for 49 bucks? What a joke! That's starting to sound like Ebay. __________________________________________________________ KE4ODD It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started! Article: 334260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: ot: Block Sender Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:11:11 GMT For those of you who do not have the block sender function on your reader, could you use Outlook Express configured to read news groups only (Accounts) and enjoy the added features? Paul P. Article: 334261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Car radios update Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 06:25:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 13 May 2006 09:35:53 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >First, remember the 59 Thunderbird with the antenna trimmer problem? >Everything was fine across the entire dial, until you reach about 1500 and >reception dies. I can adjust the trimmer to increase capacitance, and the >above-1500-space comes alive. There was a 22pf, 10%, N150 cap that was out >of spec, and I had fun finding another -- I finally used an NPO, figuring >it's an AM radio and the slight difference in temperature coefficient can't >be all that noticeable. Anyway it improved it, but it was still off -- the >trimmer required about a quarter turn to tweak up things above 1500. I had a Delco that would peter out above around 1400, but not as sharply. Everything below was excellent; everything above was...eh. In that one, a little diddling of the trimmer would help slighly at 1600. Same basic remedy...a slight tweak on the slug and the top end came in perfectly. Only problem there was then I started losing the bottom, but nothing noticeable above 560. Since there's precious little traffic below there, I just left it parked that way. I chalked it up to factory misalignment of the slug's drive, and a slight error in the drive's design. Had it moved slightly less in distance over the whole band, it would've worked perfectly. In that particular one (low voltage, 1962) every cermaic disk in the thing was shot. They did seem to find creative ways to hide bypass caps in that particular one. Article: 334262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: ot: Block Sender Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 07:08:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:11:11 GMT, "Paul P" wrote: >For those of you who do not have the block sender function on your reader, >could you use Outlook Express configured to read news groups only (Accounts) >and enjoy the added features? Why waste time on Outlook? Get a real newsreader. Outlook's the #1 choice of hackers. Article: 334263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: WTB - Riders Vol. 23 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:11:49 GMT Gee, I thought the volume 23 would be the easier one to find. I now have volumes 1 through 22, thought I was doing good. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "jim menning" wrote in message news:EId9g.17424$EC.6977@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:LbidnVmcWomp1_jZRVn-gQ@comcast.com... >> >> Those sell for fairly high dollar, usually over $80. I see no need for >> them, they cover 1952-3 or so, and Sams was doing it much better... >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> > > I got $125 each for the last 2 copies I sold. > > Pretty crazy considering they are both on the CDs and DVDs available for > around $25. > > I also sold a Rider's PA (Public Address) Volume 1 for $400. I had no > idea what it was worth, I'd never seen one sold before. I had it on my > table at Bolingbrook last year without a price on it. Someone asked what > I wanted for it, I said I was looking for offers on it. His first offer > was $400, and I took it right away. I still don't know if it was a good > deal or not, but the buyer was very happy, stating he'd been looking for > that one for years. I've still got one more of those here, maybe I should > test it on eBay. I've never seen a Rider's PA Volume 2. > > Which brings up another question: Are there any more Rider's Perpetual > series beyond the Radio (1-23), Television (1-27), and PA (1-?) series? > > jim menning > > > Article: 334264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 10:31:41 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:n7k9g.3177$UY6.191@trnddc08... > Well, well, I've got contraband! > > Yes, this can has been around for many years, so obviously it has become > illegal since I've picked it up. > > What a feeling; I can clean up rubber while y'all can't! Maybe I can sell > it on the black market for $1,000 an ounce . . . > > But now I'm curious -- what's the reason? Is there some environmental > concern, just like oil wells, that prohibit us from doing it in the "dirty > ol US" while it's perfectly fine to do it in every other country? It's on a par with BPC oils as far as being a health hazard. Worse actually as Fedron is extremely volatile. Let your can opened for an hour and it will evaporate entirely. We can still get it in Canada, I think. Maybe I should call my buddy who's maintaining photocopiers and ask if he still can get it legally... Syl Article: 334265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4465EFF9.712A9288@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Ronette Cartridge pin connections References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:42:11 GMT Gerry wrote: > > It is Seabreeze Model S-310, made in Toronto, Canada. Again, virtually > identical to VM Model 207. Would anyone have a schematic for either > one? If I could see the one for VM 207, I could compare it with what's > pasted inside the Seabreeze... The Seabreeze isn't listed in Sams, but the VM is in 526-12. I don't have that one at this time, but someone on the group may, or you may be able to get it through your public library on an inter-library loan. Sams Photofacts 526-12 is what you would ask them to get for you. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4465F4B3.A9FF339@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Index for Sams CM & RC manuals now availible. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:02:21 GMT I scanned the index pages from the Sams CM and RC manuals. They cover early turntables, phonographs and some wire recorders. I corrected the listing errors and created a clean text file. It is available on my website as a PDF file. This information is not available in Sams electronic or online indexes. The link to the website is in the header, and the file is under "Manuals - Sams Publications" or you can use this direct link: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/CM-RC-index.pdf Right click and save it if you want to keep a copy handy. It is about 300 kB and 18 pages if you print it out. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:17:57 GMT Since this set is now very non original it would be good of you to put a note inside it telling about the changes that you made. You will not own this set forever, 2 or 3 future owners down the road and it may be hard to know what an original Radio LL looked like. This is a fairly rare set, it's a shame to see it modified just to make it play. In my opinion, if you could not stand to have a radio that didn't work, and weren't interested enough to find the original tubes and correct parts to fix it without butchering it up, it would have been better to pass it on to someone who could and would treat it as a historical artifact and not just a radio to listen to. You might say you wanted to se what a Radio LL sounded like. Well now you'll never know, with all these mods it's not a Radio LL anymore. But like I said, that's just my opinion. Ron - exray - wrote in message news:1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com... > I recently acquired this old superhet and managed to bring it to life. > Here's some details should anyone be interested. I found little or no > other information on the net regarding this radio so hopefully this will > be helpful to someone. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/ll/ll.html > > -Bill Article: 334268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4465F85A.C7BECA9B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: transistors needed to repair a Harman Kardon Citation Twelve References: <1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:17:56 GMT amradio wrote: > > Hi, > I need to buy all transistors for one complete way of my "Harman Kardon > Citation Twelve Amp" that's to say : > > HK 43024217 > HK 43024306 or RCA 40408 one unit > HK 43024219 or RCA 40595 one unit > HK 43023221 or 2N5232 one unit > HK 43024218 or RCA 40594 one unit > HK 43024216 or RCA 40636 two units > > Harman Kardon has no longer ... > Have you any idea about a place to find this ? > > Thank you very much. > Best Regards > > Marc Those RCA numbers are house numbers RCA used before they were assigned JEDEC (2N) numbers, back in the '60s. I'll see if I can find my old RCA databooks to see if they list the JEDEC numbers. I don't see a Citation 12 in the Sams listings, so I can't help with a schematic and parts list. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 09:27:24 -0600 Message-ID: <22752-4465FADC-285@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <1147528460.539515.280120@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Radiogary You asked ``where else would you go `` ... There are a number of old radio topic forums on the net . some with far more than this one . You are missing out if you only look here . Article: 334270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Hickok 600 A Tester Chart Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:42:58 -0400 I need a roll chart fot this tube tester, anyone selling one? Ken Article: 334271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:58:38 -0700 Message-ID: <18727-4466022E-171@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: >...you wanted to see what a Radio LL >sounded like. Well now you'll never >know, with all these mods it's not a >Radio LL anymore. > >But like I said, that's just my opinion. > >Ron It all lies in one's frame of referance. If a non-working but intact artifact is what you prefer, that's fine. But if applying one's technical acumen to the challenge of making the old set work and actually work well, that's fine too. I kinda dig the latter. Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44652C65.ADA7FA7A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:04:09 GMT > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: >> Is there any chemical, or chemicals, that revitalize rubber rollers >> such as those used in phono's from the 50's? I know there are a bunch >> of products out there, but $10 for two ounces of stuff is a bit much >> unless it is the only way to get it. Thanks for any help. Regards, >> Dave I have been using Rawn "Re-Grip" for years and while not dirt cheap, it works very well (top of page): http://www.aedwis.com/rawn.html Here is the maker's site (scroll about 1/3 of the way down): http://www.rawnamerica.com/products.php TEAC used to make something similar. From the smell, the main ingredient appeared to be similar to diesel fuel and/or possibly Kerosene. Article: 334273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Skippy spotted in Santa Cruz Message-ID: <581c629miq5up8k0q8nvht46kkgro6suih@4ax.com> References: <1147485502.173691.176740@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147503654.030635.276010@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1147507824.169936.44100@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Yg9g.2427$uM4.430@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:12:38 GMT On Sat, 13 May 2006 08:40:32 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > >Steven wrote: >[ Long rambling drivel deleted. }] > >Getting pretty defensive there kid. That's good, that means >deep down inside you know you're wrong. > >Jeff Please do not feed the animals. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: WTB - Riders Vol. 23 Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:23:17 GMT On Sat, 13 May 2006 04:59:16 GMT, "jim menning" wrote: >I also sold a Rider's PA (Public Address) Volume 1 for $400. I had no idea what it >was worth, I'd never seen one sold before. I had it on my table at Bolingbrook last >year without a price on it. Someone asked what I wanted for it, I said I was looking >for offers on it. His first offer was $400, and I took it right away. I still don't >know if it was a good deal or not, but the buyer was very happy, stating he'd been >looking for that one for years. I've still got one more of those here, maybe I >should test it on eBay. I have 2 of those. The first on I paid $90 for, about 5 years ago. The second one I got FREE at the Sarasota radio swap meet a few weeks ago. Let's not put both of ours on eBay at the same time. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <18727-4466022E-171@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:34:24 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote in message news:18727- > It all lies in one's frame of referance. If a non-working but intact > artifact is what you prefer, that's fine. > But if applying one's technical acumen to the challenge > of making the old set work and actually work well, that's fine too. I > kinda dig the latter. Bill(oc) There's lots and lots of non working common junk radios out there for someone to apply their technical acumen to without destroying a historical artifact. Ron Article: 334276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:36:55 GMT On Sat, 13 May 2006 07:57:56 -0400, "Syl" wrote: > >It IS banned from the US. I doubt you can still get any legally off the >counter. > >In Canada, when the stuff is bought, the buyer must sign a form stating he >will >NOT export the product for _any_ reason and the product is tracked (from >the original container, you can of course relabel it..) Fine is extremely >"expensive". >It is on the same ban list as Freon. _Maybe_ some states still allow it but >I doubt it. > >Syl > http://www.teeveesupply.com/product_pages/chemicals/fedron.htm http://www.precisionroller.com/catalog_display.php?step=3&directlink=1&cid=18833&MfrID=289 Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1147528460.539515.280120@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <22752-4465FADC-285@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> <1147539099.289341.242790@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:32:16 -0500 Message-ID: <44660a9e$0$29331$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1147539099.289341.242790@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Is that so? Is Menning on any of them? What difference does it make? If you can't do business in an ethical manner you're going to be found out and called out on it no matter where you go. You ought to just be thankful that you're not Charlie Nudo and have DesertBob after you. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:45:13 -0500 Message-ID: <126c6p6oa2bko5b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> It's amazing how a few trolls and off topic posts get people thinking the world is coming to an end... First off, trolls come and go. Don't feed them! They always get bored and eventually go away. This group has had a few trolls since its inception... nothing new here. Compared to the 60,000 other usenet groups, this group has always been one of the most on topic and informative groups around. It's far >from dying as you'll see if you continue hanging around. I hope you do. Everyone just needs to "chill" out, take a deep breath, and if all of this is keeping you up at night... learn to use content filters... they are our friends. The group will remain just as strong as it always has. "Terry S" wrote in message news:1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > But R.A.R.+P. grew ill these last few week. R.A.R.+P. became infected > by a few trolls from other groups, spreading their ill will, personal > battles, hatred, and vengeful platitudes throughout this group. Article: 334279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:57:51 -0400 Message-ID: <126c7h68fj39k7f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Since this set is now very non original it would be good of > you to put a note inside it telling about the changes that you made. > You will not own this set forever, 2 or 3 future owners down the > road and it may be hard to know what an original Radio LL > looked like. > This is a fairly rare set, it's a shame to see it modified just > to make it play. In my opinion, if you could not stand to have a radio > that didn't work, and weren't interested enough to find the > original tubes and correct parts to fix it without butchering it up, Huh? Ron, I think anybody could clearly see that the tubes are fake and that hardly justifies "putting a note inside". You find out what the correct tubes are (nobody seems to know) and you throw away the fakes. End of story. The radio has not been modified in any way whatsoever beyond the fake tubes and restuffing the two bad caps. I did save the original 'dud' tubes found in it for 'display'. We apparently have differing opinions of what is "butchered up". -Bill Article: 334280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44662169.A7512A39@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:13:07 GMT robert casey wrote: > > Isn't Unobtainium a controlled substance? Or against UN regulations to > enrich to weapons grade? > > :-) No, you're thinking of bullshitium, used to power usenet trolls. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126c6p6oa2bko5b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:26:57 -0400 Message-ID: <446624d6$0$3680$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Steve Phipps" wrote in message news:126c6p6oa2bko5b@corp.supernews.com... > It's amazing how a few trolls and off topic posts get people thinking the > world is coming to an end... > > First off, trolls come and go. Don't feed them! They always get bored and > eventually go away. This group has had a few trolls since its inception... > nothing new here. Compared to the 60,000 other usenet groups, this group > has always been one of the most on topic and informative groups around. > It's far from dying as you'll see if you continue hanging around. I hope > you do. > > Everyone just needs to "chill" out, take a deep breath, and if all of this > is keeping you up at night... learn to use content filters... they are our > friends. The group will remain just as strong as it always has. > > "Terry S" wrote in message > news:1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> But R.A.R.+P. grew ill these last few week. R.A.R.+P. became infected >> by a few trolls from other groups, spreading their ill will, personal >> battles, hatred, and vengeful platitudes throughout this group. > > Hell, if you think "THIS" news group is bad, check out the CB radio or some of the Ham related groups - they never quit. There is like 99.9% fighting and .1% on topic issues. THAT IS SICKENING. And they then cross post it to yet other radio related groups and ruin them too. Why not just meet in a back alley, kick the shit out of one another and get it over with. Why infest the computer spectrum? You guys have it mild - WAY mild compared to others........... As the man said, chill out........ it "will" pass........... AND - don't feed the trolls. My only downfall here was a disagreement with one of it's members - which as I look back on - was silly.......... But, after a couple exchanges - I left to chill out. It did no one any good to continue on in that silly tirade. BUT - it was just that - a disagreement - no trolling or otherwise. I will say though - some are very harsh when it comes to opposing opinion.They can't accept any other than their own - that is not good. You have to be willing to respect others as they are expected to respect yours. A bit of give and take. We all have our own likes and dislikes and our quirks. Now, let's get back to Radio - shall we? Though I don't contribute a whole lot, I have - some. I do enjoy though - reading the wisdom of others when posted. Lets not let the trolls - win.............. clf Article: 334282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: Hoffman TV:need schematic Message-ID: <4466272d.17475312@news-server> References: <4460e4fd$0$65487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <44611318.502A87FB@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:39:51 GMT On Tue, 09 May 2006 22:11:22 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >Steve wrote: >> >> Gotta stop going to junkfests. >> >> Picked up an unmolested Hoffman 17QXP pseudo >> countertop TV. As far as I can tell it was built in 1952. >> The chassis is #212, and there is a model number on >> the back (different from 17QXP) that I cannot read. >> From my tube layout book, it appears this chassis >> was used in a number of sets. Mine uses a 17HP4 >> rectangular CRT. >> >> If anyone out here has, and is willing to make a copy >> of the schematic and any other info, I'd like to >> hear from you. Of course I'll be happy to pay for >> copying and shipping. TIA. >> >> Steve > > > Sams Photofacts lists it in 194-4, which is not in my collection at >this time. > If I have it, you can have it for postage. Article: 334283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" Subject: Schematic for newer TV. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:55:30 -0230 Apology for off topic. Direction to a source would be most appreciated. A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using Chassis A67. Set works Ok but has lack of linearity and some 'fold-over' at top few inches of screen. Suspect something in the vertical circuit. But my TV trouble shooting days are almost 50 years out of date so I need a diagram! TIA Terry Article: 334284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tom418" References: <1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: transistors needed to repair a Harman Kardon Citation Twelve Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:53:28 -0400 Great unit, the Citation Twelve. IIRC, it made its debut in the late sixties? I used to work for Pickering, down the street from H.K in Plainview, Long Island. Those were the days... "amradio" wrote in message news:1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > I need to buy all transistors for one complete way of my "Harman Kardon > Citation Twelve Amp" that's to say : > > HK 43024217 > HK 43024306 or RCA 40408 one unit > HK 43024219 or RCA 40595 one unit > HK 43023221 or 2N5232 one unit > HK 43024218 or RCA 40594 one unit > HK 43024216 or RCA 40636 two units > > Harman Kardon has no longer ... > Have you any idea about a place to find this ? > > Thank you very much. > Best Regards > > Marc > Article: 334285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" References: Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! Message-ID: <8Lp9g.10259$aq5.459909@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:09:12 -0230 "robert casey" wrote in message news:uIo9g.2032$y4.669@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Isn't Unobtainium a controlled substance? Or against UN regulations to > enrich to weapons grade? > > :-) . Umm: Isn't that irrata ...., er, irritational, ah, iranational................. nah that's not it! Irrational ...........! Yes that's it! Article: 334286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" Subject: WTD--Scans of Sears and Montgomery Ward catalog pages--batteries Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <44662ee7$0$1014$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Anyone have a 1958-1961 Sears or Montgomery Wards Catalog? I'd like to have scans of the Silvertone and Airline battery lists. Bill From adouglasatgis.net Sun May 14 10:19:55 EDT 2006 Article: 334287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:33:41 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-309.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:334287 Hi, Out of curiosity I did a quick search for the MSDS for Fedron, and came up with: xylene 40-50% ethyl acetate 5-10% denatured ethanol 40-50% MIBK (methyl isobutyl ketone) 1-5% The ethyl acetate would account for the fruity smell, and the odor of xylene tends to linger also. MIBK is fairly nasty stuff. Alan -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 334288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: Schematic for newer TV. References: <44663B4B.8AB3D492@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9Qs9g.1802$_B5.1042@trnddc01> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:11:17 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Stan wrote: > >>Apology for off topic. Direction to a source would be most appreciated. >> >>A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using Chassis >>A67. >> >>Set works Ok but has lack of linearity and some 'fold-over' at top few >>inches of screen. >> >>Suspect something in the vertical circuit. But my TV trouble shooting days >>are almost 50 years out of date so I need a diagram! >> >>TIA Terry > > > > Try news:sci.electronics.repair for newer electronics help. A lot of > TV techs there who can and will help. > > And if you still want/need a schematic, there is a pay-per-download site at: http://www.tvdiagrams.com/ , which I have used a few times. Cheaper, faster, and more convenient than ordering a Sams photofact set... Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 334289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> <126c7h68fj39k7f@corp.supernews.com> <1147550289.364898.286800@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: <_0t9g.507$vw1.285@southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:24:58 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1147550289.364898.286800@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > it's amazing how a man that can take NO criticizm when it is thrown his > way, sure can dish it out in heaping helpings. i think you did a great > job bill. at least you made an effort. > What, I'm not entitled to my opinion? Ron Article: 334290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Schematic for newer TV. Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:42:20 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Stan" wrote in message news:eyp9g.10254$aq5.457849@news20.bellglobal.com... > Apology for off topic. Direction to a source would be most appreciated. > > A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using Chassis > A67. > > Set works Ok but has lack of linearity and some 'fold-over' at top few > inches of screen. > > Suspect something in the vertical circuit. But my TV trouble shooting days > are almost 50 years out of date so I need a diagram! > > TIA Terry > As with old radios, I've found it best to just shotgun the electrolytics around the V. out transistors, V. Height and Linearity controls, and the signal processor chip. Article: 334291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4465F4B3.A9FF339@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Index for Sams CM & RC manuals now availible. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:47:03 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4465F4B3.A9FF339@earthlink.net... > > I scanned the index pages from the Sams CM and RC manuals. Thanks! jim menning Article: 334292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:50:31 -0600 Message-ID: <364-44667ED7-322@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: That is really neet Bill . The face of that is different . I enjoyed the wright up . Why the hell is everyone freeking out about the original parts .. LOL Article: 334293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:01:51 -0700 Message-ID: <8515-4466817F-19@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: Yep, the parts baggie also enclosing a well-written summary of any substitutions / mods would be the way to go. The complex repair necessary to bring this set back to life gave a true appreciation of the genius of the original builder.. an insight you'd never get by looking at a non-working artifact. oc Article: 334294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Back from Kutztown! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:08:23 GMT Im Back! My goal of coming home with LESS consoles by spending a little more and getting better sets was indeed realized, but the quantity of project sets bieng much less this time definately helped. Perhaps the threat of biblical rains kept some from dragging everything out but the actual weather couldnt have been any better at least until the auction started. Once again alot of the fun was meeting all the radio folk, having great talks with John Hagman and Peter Wieck and others, and learning from Peter how to properly restore a corroded dial bezel! I came home with a nice black dial Zenith that will be sure to satisfy the Zombies ( I still like Zeniths though) a small Fada console whose speaker has a HANDLE on it, and a nice early Zenith that Peter Wieck went through electronically... and there are only a select few folks out there that I would trust an electronic resto from and he is one! I hope to make the cabinet match the already completed elements of the restoration this winter! I got a couple other things as well including a nice clean and solid Kolster 6J, the AC version of the 6D which came with all the original paper work and notes, Its nice to own a few sets that havent had anything living in them at one time! The stuff I brought to sell all went very nicely too... mainly plastics that Ill never get to (the 1 in 7 million odds of living past 100 just werent worth keeping the plastic's). I have a table reserved for the fall... still alot of doohickies in the basement that are too good the throw out but not useful to me. So expect a nice selection of really cheap oddball stuff FS in the fall. Hope everyone got home safe and sound! Keith Article: 334295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Kutztown 2006- First Look- On Binaries NOW Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:23:03 -0400 Message-ID: <126d54fpa7dt64@corp.supernews.com> They are hot off the presses, I'll have full report soon after I get some sleep. I sold a bunch, bought some smaller things, a wonderful meet all in all as usual. John H. Article: 334296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:59:37 -0400 Message-ID: <126d7911qnfl21d@corp.supernews.com> References: Yes, use the best checker of all- the calendar. Are the 'lytics in question older than 1970 ? Then they are bad. For newer ones an ESR meter may be useful. John H. Article: 334297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:42:44 GMT The Carolinas Chapter of the Antique Wireless Association will host our "Spring Antique Radio Swap Meet" next Saturday May, 20th 2006, at the North Carolina Transportation Museum "Spencer Shops" located in Spencer, North Carolina. Spencer is located just off I-85 a few miles north of Salisbury, NC. You can find detailed driving directions on the CC-AWA web page at http://www.cc-awa.org As always with our Saturday events, admission is FREE, vendor setup is only $5. If you've never attended one of our Saturday morning events before please understand that these events start early and are all over before 12noon. The park officially opens the gates at 8AM, but folks are usually there by around 7AM. If you sleep late and show up at 10 or 11 all you'll get to see is the early birds packing up and heading home. We look forward to seeing everyone there. 73, Ron kc4yoy Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 334298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 21:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: <77cd629fgi3a6cdh7g4t4cta9q0e36tsg4@4ax.com> References: <1147572567.061476.289250@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 13 May 2006 19:09:27 -0700, "Terry S" wrote: >I have a few. I prefer my Sprague Tel-Ohm-Mike TO-6. Best 'lytic tester ever made. EICO and Heath had some fair ones, and are far cheaper, but with less precise results. Article: 334299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:32:46 -0400 Message-ID: <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> References: <8515-4466817F-19@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > Yep, the parts baggie also enclosing a well-written summary of any > substitutions / mods would be the way to go. > The complex repair necessary to bring this set back to life gave a true > appreciation of the genius of the original builder.. an insight you'd > never get by looking at a non-working artifact. > > oc > I'm going to go back and re-read again what I wrote but aside from the obviously fake homemade tubes there are NO substitutions or mods or replacement parts -as in NONE or ZERO - to put in a baggie...other than the internal guts of the two wax caps I restuffed...but I threw them out after saving as much of the original wax as I could. Two of 3 of the disc caps on the xfmrs came back to life after some 'flexing' and the third one simply has an additional ceramic disc under the screw, clearly visible and removable in seconds. This would be the only "added" part and if anyone has one of those 540pf round discs (see top of xfmr on the right) I'd gladly purchase it and resolve that situation. I'm not going to rag on any one else's efforts or their preference to be curator of a Radio Morgue full of inoperative, lifeless boxes. There's a lot to be learned about the old technology and its development by actually operating the gear of old days. No, this won't be my daily driver although it certainly could be since I wouldn't be wasting hard-to-find tubes that cost $40 a whack, and no I wouldn't whack out the original sockets and replace them with modern octals or something like that. I'm opposed to butchering up rare radios as much as anybody. I don't consider making repairs to IF coil broken wires as butchering especially when a few minor non-intrusive repairs can make the difference between a dead 'artifact' or a live one. Had major repairs or substitutions been required this radio would have remained dead. If a few solder joints being disturbed counts as ruining the radio then I'm guilty as charged because several of them had popped loose. -Bill Article: 334300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Powers" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 05:59:06 GMT I've used a number of things over the years. I've seen the TEAC stuff mentioned and that was pretty good stuff. I have a small (empty) bottle of stuff from PRB-Line (Projector-Recorder Belt, Whitewater, WI 53190 414-473-2151) called "Rubber Cleaner Revitalizer P/N RCR21. I bought it when the TEAC stuff ran out... worked just as well. It says it contains Methyl Propasol Acetate (CAS# 108-65-6). The latest stuff I have is from MG Chemicals and is called Rubber Renue http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/408a.html. It works well also and it says it contains Dimethyl Benzine (CAS# 1330-20-7) and Methyl Salicylate (CAS# 119-36-8). I was talking to a VCR repairman once who told me he always used automotive brake fluid... I never had the guts to try it myself since I know brake fluid eats plastic and paint. JP "Alan Douglas" wrote in message news:ltcc62h5phlv9hbqpmj0p99mqnndbggma8@4ax.com... > Hi, > Out of curiosity I did a quick search for the MSDS for Fedron, and > came up with: > > xylene 40-50% > ethyl acetate 5-10% > denatured ethanol 40-50% > MIBK (methyl isobutyl ketone) 1-5% > > The ethyl acetate would account for the fruity smell, and the odor > of xylene tends to linger also. > > MIBK is fairly nasty stuff. > > Alan > -- > NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 334301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby References: <8515-4466817F-19@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <8nE9g.22$aa4.3213@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:19:36 -0400 - exray - wrote: If a few solder joints > being disturbed counts as ruining the radio then I'm guilty as charged > because several of them had popped loose. > > -Bill You can't please everyone Bill, but you already know that. Your restore/repro information page was a pleasant read. Impressive work - as always. cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 334302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:47:13 +0900 Message-ID: Today I got started with recapping my SX-25 in earnest. I had replaced a few of the easier to reach ones last night, but tonight I dismantled the cabinet so that I could get to more of them, and finished the main chassis, including electrolytics. The new caps are so much smaller than the old wax caps, they look rather tiny and alone. Two of the electrolytics (10uF/25V) were replaced with modern 10uF/50V types that were about 1/20 the size of the originals. I added a tie strip near the old main filter cap (which I left in for cosmetic purposes) that I could mount the new filters to. This turned out to be a fairly neat looking modification. I used to just solder the new ones in at convenient points in the radios, but in this case I wanted a better job than I usually do. I'm thinking about ohming the old dogbone resistors and replacing them as needed, especially in the RF area. I still need to recap that part of the chassis, but put it off for last, because it was going to be much more difficult to do than the rest. Right now, the radio is almost completely deaf on band 4 (18-42MHz), and semi-deaf on band 3 (5-19MHz). It is pretty hot on the bottom end of the band, and up through about 10MHz, and drops off rapidly from there. Bands 1 and 2 are doing fairly well. Band 1 does not use the additional RF amplifier stage, so is not as hot as band 2. I was a bit disappointed when I looked carefully at the schematic and saw that the extra RF amp wasn't even in the circuit on the BCB. The BFO lacked any sort of stability before the recap, now it seems to hold fairly steady, especially after warmup. After doing an IF alignment (in narrow mode), I'm quite happy with the way the bandwidths are working. The wide bandwidth sounds very nice to my ear on strong stations where the band conditions allow, while the narrow does a fine job of separating close stations in the SW band. One question I have for someone that is more familiar than I with using bandspread: Where do I want to position the bandspread while doing the tracking alignment on the main dial? I'll be glad when I can install a proper output transformer in the radio. As of now, I'm using a huge transformer that I think was made for at the very least 6L6 outputs, possibly even something larger, I think about 30-40 watts total output, and it doesn't match particularly well to the 6F6 tubes in the radio... although it does do a better job of matching to one of my speakers than the 500 ohm output on the existing transformer in the radio. Anyway, that's my story for now, and I'm sticking to it. :) Anyone with hints and tips regarding this radio feel free to e-mail me. Article: 334303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1147570225.299192.129740@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:12:16 GMT In article <1147570225.299192.129740@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, bhagen@msn.com says... > > >The outputs of all transformers are AC. > >Bruce > yes... including the vibrator transformer... what exactly radio are you trying to bypass this vibrator supply on?.. are we talking temporary supply to find out if the radio works?.. or are we talking about permanently replacing the 6 volt supply with a regular AC one?.. If its a replacement permanently of a 6 volt supply ... usually you need to rewire slightly the tube filament wiring as it is now through the On/Off switch ... you also need a small power transformer... not some audio one... but a small power transformer that has 6.3 volts and high voltage .. then a rectifier system of some sorts... diodes or tube... if tube and you want a 5y3 or something in the radio... then your transformer has to also have a 5 volt winding on it.. John Article: 334304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:17:20 -0400 Better watch those dog bones, they can continue to go up in resistance as you use the set. Ken Brenda Ann wrote: > Today I got started with recapping my SX-25 in earnest. I had replaced a few > of the easier to reach ones last night, but tonight I dismantled the cabinet > so that I could get to more of them, and finished the main chassis, > including electrolytics. > > The new caps are so much smaller than the old wax caps, they look rather > tiny and alone. Two of the electrolytics (10uF/25V) were replaced with > modern 10uF/50V types that were about 1/20 the size of the originals. > > I added a tie strip near the old main filter cap (which I left in for > cosmetic purposes) that I could mount the new filters to. This turned out to > be a fairly neat looking modification. I used to just solder the new ones in > at convenient points in the radios, but in this case I wanted a better job > than I usually do. > > I'm thinking about ohming the old dogbone resistors and replacing them as > needed, especially in the RF area. I still need to recap that part of the > chassis, but put it off for last, because it was going to be much more > difficult to do than the rest. Right now, the radio is almost completely > deaf on band 4 (18-42MHz), and semi-deaf on band 3 (5-19MHz). It is pretty > hot on the bottom end of the band, and up through about 10MHz, and drops off > rapidly from there. Bands 1 and 2 are doing fairly well. Band 1 does not use > the additional RF amplifier stage, so is not as hot as band 2. I was a bit > disappointed when I looked carefully at the schematic and saw that the extra > RF amp wasn't even in the circuit on the BCB. > > The BFO lacked any sort of stability before the recap, now it seems to hold > fairly steady, especially after warmup. After doing an IF alignment (in > narrow mode), I'm quite happy with the way the bandwidths are working. The > wide bandwidth sounds very nice to my ear on strong stations where the band > conditions allow, while the narrow does a fine job of separating close > stations in the SW band. > > One question I have for someone that is more familiar than I with using > bandspread: Where do I want to position the bandspread while doing the > tracking alignment on the main dial? > > I'll be glad when I can install a proper output transformer in the radio. As > of now, I'm using a huge transformer that I think was made for at the very > least 6L6 outputs, possibly even something larger, I think about 30-40 watts > total output, and it doesn't match particularly well to the 6F6 tubes in the > radio... although it does do a better job of matching to one of my speakers > than the 500 ohm output on the existing transformer in the radio. > > Anyway, that's my story for now, and I'm sticking to it. :) Anyone with > hints and tips regarding this radio feel free to e-mail me. > > Article: 334305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:18:20 -0400 Message-ID: <126ebh1ckfq3cb8@corp.supernews.com> References: William Sommerwerck wrote: >>The new caps are so much smaller than the old wax caps, >>they look rather tiny and alone. > > > So, why not mount two in parallel? > > Restuff the originals! -Bill Article: 334306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:28:05 GMT In article , babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com says... > > >Is there a capacitor checker that can test electrolytics if they are bad or >not? None of my VOMs or other test equipment has this feature. > >Thanks. > > well now that you have gotten good and bad information in response to your question... someone should probably sum it up with a little clarification for you before you jump right out there and buy a meter. .. OLD LITICS ARE JUNK as stated by John H.... you don't need to bother checking them.. if they are OK today... tomorrow or the next day they won't be any good... so how many times do you want to open up this same old radio to fix it. ... you asked about checking litics ... the new digital.. cap meters like the Tenma that I have here... they are about 70 bucks.. the will tell you what the capacitance of the capacitor in question is... they will NOT tell you if the thing is going to leak when you apply voltage to it... the Spraque TO and the Eico and Heathkit old units.. they WILL tell you if the capacitor is leaking ... again .. if the litic is an old one.. see above part... junk it and get a new one for less than a buck you won't have to wonder what day it is going to puke on you.. the Sprague, Eico,Heath units.. usually go begging for buyers at the hamfests for 5 to 20 bucks ... I have a Heathkit... works fine for what I use it for... as for checking capacitors "In Curcuit" ... some you can and some you can't depending on what else is in the curcuit... so some people can give you false information ... John k9uwa Article: 334307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Car radios update From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:34:22 GMT In article , caradio@verizon.net says... > > > and I can put my >finger near or on the 6A8 grid cap and pull in stations like crazy >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical two posibilities on the above problem.. one is that the tweakers need tweaked... and the other is that it might have an open antenna coil in the front end of the radio.. John k9uwa Article: 334308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Kutztown Spring 2006 Also on Forum Now Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:41:19 -0400 Message-ID: <126egcoil37j544@corp.supernews.com> http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428345#428345 John H. Article: 334309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:26:37 GMT CAINE wrote: > > Has anyone subscribed to or read Glass Audio before ? I picked up 4 > issues for a quarter each at a flea market sale yesterday, this > magazine is amazing. Every issue is full of info on push pull vs. > single ended, pentode vs. triode, followers, home built amps, etc. > Also discusses various tube designs, and the charactersistics of each > tube by part number. Take this to news:rec.audio.tubes where they give a damn. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Zenith part needed Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:54:40 -0600 Message-ID: <10782-446752C0-526@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Probably one of the more obscure Zenith parts requests. I need a propeller for a Zenith Wincharger. Lacking the propeller, can anyone furnish the dimensions of one? I don't need details as to the shape of the airfoil as I won't be using it to efficiently generate electricity but I would like it to spin and look authentic. DON AC7PD Article: 334311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Pete" References: Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:30:33 -0400 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:FfG9g.729454$084.42536@attbi_s22... > In > as for checking capacitors "In Curcuit" ... some you can and some you > can't depending on what else is in the curcuit... so some people can > give you false information ... > > John k9uwa > The ESR meters are indespensible for in circuit testing, but where they really shine in is in solid state environments, where the boards are packed with electrolytics and removing them for testing would be too time intensive... A good ESR meter is a godsend on modern consumer equipment. If you're doing newer AV type repairs, you need one! I've fixed several video monitors in minutes using one to find the open electrolytics. Pete Article: 334312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 16:37:56 GMT > I think it was called "jewelling" , although I wouldn't swear > to that at the moment. Beautiful though. It's called "Engine Turned". The '27 Bugitta LaMans racer had it's front cowl done that way, and so did the Spirit of St. Louis. It's really easy to by the way if you have a drill press handy. Ron Article: 334313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:50:18 -0400 Message-ID: <126enugemuj8c54@corp.supernews.com> References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >>I think it was called "jewelling" , although I wouldn't swear >>to that at the moment. Beautiful though. > > > It's called "Engine Turned". > > The '27 Bugitta LaMans racer had it's front cowl > done that way, and so did the Spirit of St. Louis. > > It's really easy to by the way if you have a drill press handy. > > Ron This was still popular with homebrew race car folks for dashboards in the 60s-70s. I wouldn't be surprised if it still were. -Bill Article: 334314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Todd Subject: Re: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:18:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:47:13 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: > T > I'll be glad when I can install a proper output transformer in the radio. As > of now, I'm using a huge transformer that I think was made for at the very > least 6L6 outputs, possibly even something larger, I think about 30-40 watts > total output, and it doesn't match particularly well to the 6F6 tubes in the > radio... although it does do a better job of matching to one of my speakers > than the 500 ohm output on the existing transformer in the radio. > > Anyway, that's my story for now, and I'm sticking to it. :) Anyone with > hints and tips regarding this radio feel free to e-mail me. Way to go, Brenda! How about just matching that 500 ohm output with a small universal? Article: 334315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Todd Subject: Re: transistors needed to repair a Harman Kardon Citation Twelve Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:23:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 13 May 2006 08:01:31 -0700, amradio wrote: > Hi, > I need to buy all transistors for one complete way of my "Harman Kardon > Citation Twelve Amp" that's to say : > > HK 43024217 > HK 43024306 or RCA 40408 one unit > HK 43024219 or RCA 40595 one unit > HK 43023221 or 2N5232 one unit > HK 43024218 or RCA 40594 one unit > HK 43024216 or RCA 40636 two units > > Harman Kardon has no longer ... > Have you any idea about a place to find this ? > > Thank you very much. > Best Regards > > Marc What do you have against NTE? In most cases, I consider NTE is an upgrade in quality over OEM parts. cheers. Article: 334316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:49:09 -0400 Message-ID: <446760d5$0$29263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "If you've never attended one of our Saturday morning events before please understand that these events start early and are all over before 12noon." is exactly why I never go to these meets and never will as long as they are like this. It's just in not worth the trip for just a few hours of sales time. Why do you have such short meets? What a waste of time! *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: FA: Capacitor Analyzer Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:53:11 -0400 http://tinyurl.com/gxlrq ZM-3 U/A __________________________________________________________ KE4ODD It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started! Article: 334318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> <126enugemuj8c54@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 17:35:09 GMT - exray - wrote in message > > This was still popular with homebrew race car folks for dashboards in > the 60s-70s. I wouldn't be surprised if it still were. > When I have to build a piece of test equipment for work and use an alum. front panel, I always engine turn it instead of leaving it raw alum. or paint it that someone will just scratch off. Ron Article: 334319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <446760d5$0$29263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:06:15 GMT Al Z. wrote in message news:446760d5$0$29263 > Why do you have such short meets? What a waste of time! > This is just a Saturday morning swap meet, when the vendors sell out they go home. Even the best flea markets are only good for about 3 or 4 hours. After that everyone is just standing around. Ron Article: 334320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <446760d5$0$29263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:40:56 GMT Al Z. wrote in message > Why do you have such short meets? What a waste of time! > Our annual conference lasts for 3 days, then we have some folks that whine that it's too long, they. It's really hard to make everyone happy. Ron Article: 334321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: <9gve6259hmgu45l1vuf4p1ua020esvsvit@4ax.com> References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> <126enugemuj8c54@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:59:48 GMT On Sun, 14 May 2006 12:50:18 -0400, - exray - wrote: > >This was still popular with homebrew race car folks for dashboards in >the 60s-70s. I wouldn't be surprised if it still were. > >-Bill http://www.alarmclocksonline.com/SpiritofStLouis.htm Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:51:49 -0700 Message-ID: <469-44677C45-221@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> To Bill (exray) I feel badly for my remark about baggies/ parts/ subs etc., which was meant in a generic sense. I should have clarified it better. Yours is certainly a beaufiful job, not just in the troubleshooting aspect, but in uniquely fabricating from those tubes from scratch.. far beyond my skill/patience level. Bill(oc) Article: 334323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:17:47 -0400 Message-ID: <9bac98639c28e70f8d2483cfc1099228@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1147616124.215237.41350@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Replace them. When I started fixing up old radios, I'd test and alot **Absolute right, Gary; change 'em. I've been using one of those capacitance meters that looks like a hand multimeter and it works fine except for leakage. If I want minimal cap changes (like in an AK with brittle wiring), I use a Philco 60 transformer B+ winding, rectify and filter it, and have a series meter and resistor to the test clips; it puts close to 600 volts DC across the cap (one lead lifted) under test and if there is any leakage I will see it on the meter. (The series resistor sets full scale on the meter). It's dangerous but it works great. Hoping to live for another day, Pete O. Article: 334324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:45:07 -0400 Message-ID: <126f2686svkj527@corp.supernews.com> References: <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> <469-44677C45-221@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > To Bill (exray) > > I feel badly for my remark about baggies/ parts/ subs etc., which was > meant in a generic sense. I should have clarified it better. Yours is > certainly a beaufiful job, not just in the troubleshooting aspect, but > in uniquely fabricating from those tubes from scratch.. far beyond my > skill/patience level. > Bill(oc) > Thanks, no offense taken. -Bill M Article: 334325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:21:16 GMT Same weekend as Dayton. Absolutely brilliant. " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:UGx9g.192$lm.57@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > > The Carolinas Chapter of the Antique Wireless Association > will host our "Spring Antique Radio Swap Meet" next Saturday > May, 20th 2006, at the North Carolina Transportation Museum > "Spencer Shops" located in Spencer, North Carolina. > > Spencer is located just off I-85 a few miles north > of Salisbury, NC. > > You can find detailed driving directions on the CC-AWA web > page at http://www.cc-awa.org > > As always with our Saturday events, admission is FREE, > vendor setup is only $5. > > If you've never attended one of our Saturday morning events > before please understand that these events start early and are all over > before 12noon. > > The park officially opens the gates at 8AM, but folks are usually > there by around 7AM. > If you sleep late and show up at 10 or 11 all you'll get to see is > the early birds packing up and heading home. > > We look forward to seeing everyone there. > > > 73, Ron kc4yoy > > Radio Collection Web Page, > http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com > > > > > > Article: 334326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1147641627.395284.10690@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Back from Kutztown! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:17:24 GMT Thanks. So do I. The warrantee on my website is really only a formality, if something goes wrong just send it back and it will get taken care of. Ive even been known to make service calls :-) Keith "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1147641627.395284.10690@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Keith: > > I appreciate the note. But you know where to find me if there are _ANY_ > problems with that radio. I try to stand 'right up front' of my work > rather than hide behind it. > > On Kutztown: It went well for all that I spoke to. I arrived with a > bulging VW Camper and left with less than 1/3 of the original contents, > including all my equipment and purchases. Prices were excellent, > variety extensive and the company pleasant. One individual forgot to > pay me $40 on an item (he was short), but I found a note in my e-mail > this morning that the check was on its way. > > The presentation on Crystal radios went well, and the radios described > in it were there to prove the theory discussed. Lewie demonstrated a > battery powered T/O that he had gone over and tweaked... > > My "buy of the meet" was a five-pack of Zenith branded 1U6s which are a > near drop-in replacement for the 1L6. That and a very nice leather 600. > > > The next event is in September. Plan now. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 334327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1147570225.299192.129740@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:16:32 GMT In article , spikewilliams@qx.net says... > > well you could probably run this radio on a good stiff 6.3 volt filament transformer ... now I am guessing that since the vibrator is a 6 pin one that it is doing double duty here.. first set of contacts are chopping up the 6 volts DC ... into sort of AC then it goes through the transformer and the voltage is now up around 150 to 175 volts or so.. and the 2nd set of syncronous contacts is UnChopping that stuff back into sort of smooth DC high voltage.. add filter caps and a bit of choke and your radio is happy... so if you stuff 6.3 AC 60 cycle into it and replace the 2nd set of choppers with a diode rectifier .. it most likely will work.. John k9uwa Article: 334328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4467BAF8.11354359@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Ronette Cartridge pin connections References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:21:04 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Drat! Wouldn't you know it? The Library is closed on Sunday. Does > anyone happen to have this schematic? > > I actually managed to find the VM version of the Seabreeze phono on > eBay. Looks like the model 357. Naturally, someone else found it too, > and now it's more than I can afford. I can't win! > > I like the Seabreeze/VM because it's compact and has a nice sound. > Looks like I've got three options: Try to replace those capacitors > myself (with the group's help); buy another from eBay; or try and build > myself a custom tube amp stereo from some others I have lying about. > What about combining two schoolhouse phonos (Newcomb or Audiotronics) > with a VM stereo changer? Is it possible to combine the volume and > tone controls using the double contols? I have a spare "suitcase" > portable cabinet I can use (I parted one phono out to fix others). > > Frustrated in Baltimore, > Gerry > That V-M model is in Sams 649-9. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net Mon May 15 04:18:54 EDT 2006 Article: 334329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: js mcauley Reply-To: jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0619-3, 05/12/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 19 Message-ID: <8tQ9g.4635$u4.133@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 01:05:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.87.139.208 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net 1147655108 65.87.139.208 (Sun, 14 May 2006 18:05:08 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:05:08 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!oshean-news.uri.edu!128.230.129.112.MISMATCH!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!1800c27c!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:334329 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > CAINE wrote: > >>Has anyone subscribed to or read Glass Audio before ? I picked up 4 >>issues for a quarter each at a flea market sale yesterday, this >>magazine is amazing. Every issue is full of info on push pull vs. >>single ended, pentode vs. triode, followers, home built amps, etc. >>Also discusses various tube designs, and the charactersistics of each >>tube by part number. > > > > Take this to news:rec.audio.tubes where they give a damn. > > I used to subscribe to Glass Audio. Not a bad little magazine. Interesting construction articles and in depth technical articles. Some of the usual AudioPhoolery, but overall better than most. Scott. Article: 334330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4467D589.2FDDE4D4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 01:14:33 GMT John Powers wrote: > > I've used a number of things over the years. I've seen the TEAC stuff > mentioned and that was pretty good stuff. > > I have a small (empty) bottle of stuff from PRB-Line (Projector-Recorder > Belt, Whitewater, WI 53190 414-473-2151) called "Rubber Cleaner Revitalizer > P/N RCR21. I bought it when the TEAC stuff ran out... worked just as well. > It says it contains Methyl Propasol Acetate (CAS# 108-65-6). > > The latest stuff I have is from MG Chemicals and is called Rubber Renue > http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/408a.html. It works well also and it > says it contains Dimethyl Benzine (CAS# 1330-20-7) and Methyl Salicylate > (CAS# 119-36-8). The synthetic "Oil of Wintergreen" I bought from a pharmacy is 98% Methyl Salicylate. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 01:44:50 GMT Use http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr To get a sort of english translation of that page. It is rather fascinating. Jeff cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: > Thought some here might like seeing this. > > modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book > condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like > cloth wire..... > > http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Message-ID: <2LR9g.4669$UY6.2171@trnddc08> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 02:32:30 GMT It definitely beats the heck out of that "genuine" Atwater-Kent breadboard radio with miniature tubes that was posted on eBay a few months ago. For one thing it has a speaker. I can't read Japanese, and don't want to install one of those language programs, but it appears to be sold as just what it is -- a cute kit. For the tinkerer, it can make for a neat little radio that can be a conversation piece in the corner of any living room or office. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thought some here might like seeing this. > > modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book > condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like > cloth wire..... > > http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html > Article: 334333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:50:41 -0700 Message-ID: <9juf62dndmg20pcf141hs03upg0u7f226r@4ax.com> References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> <8tQ9g.4635$u4.133@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <4467E1F4.594F6128@earthlink.net> On Mon, 15 May 2006 02:07:37 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >My >favorites to collect and restore is early test equipment, and the heavy >duty, built to last a lifetime radios and industrial equipment. ...spoken like a man who MUST own a very nice R390! Article: 334334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:39:17 -0500 Message-ID: <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> "Uncle Pete" wrote in message news:taR9g.59742$IZ2.50341@dukeread07... > The RMS voltages are about the same, the limiting factor is the core > material in > the transformer--vibrators usually run faster than 60Hz, and running the > transformer on 60 cycles might cause the core to overheat. I used to do it > all > the time with old car radios when I was a kid, and got away with it... If the "hand test" is worth anything (for me it should; my hands are very sensitive to heat) it seemed to work okay with my Zenith 6V27. I ditched the vibrator and installed a transformer with two 2A 6V windings underchassis. One feeds the heaters, the other feeds the old vibrator transformer. The output of the vibrator transformer is full-wave bridge rectified, and then on to the filter caps. The vibrator transformer doesn't get too hot and the B voltages nearly match the original design because it's stepped up the same way. Works nicely. paul Article: 334335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Powers" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> <4467D589.2FDDE4D4@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 05:54:49 GMT I'll have to get some of that wintergreen and check it out... inexpensive? JP "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4467D589.2FDDE4D4@earthlink.net... > John Powers wrote: >> >> I've used a number of things over the years. I've seen the TEAC stuff >> mentioned and that was pretty good stuff. >> >> I have a small (empty) bottle of stuff from PRB-Line (Projector-Recorder >> Belt, Whitewater, WI 53190 414-473-2151) called "Rubber Cleaner >> Revitalizer >> P/N RCR21. I bought it when the TEAC stuff ran out... worked just as >> well. >> It says it contains Methyl Propasol Acetate (CAS# 108-65-6). >> >> The latest stuff I have is from MG Chemicals and is called Rubber Renue >> http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/408a.html. It works well also and it >> says it contains Dimethyl Benzine (CAS# 1330-20-7) and Methyl Salicylate >> (CAS# 119-36-8). > > > The synthetic "Oil of Wintergreen" I bought from a pharmacy is 98% > Methyl Salicylate. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 334336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: biascomms Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LR9g.4669$UY6.2171@trnddc08> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 06:12:42 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I can't read Japanese, and don't want to install one of those language > programs, You don't need to /install/ anything - "babelfish" just redirects the page you want translated to another web site that does the translation, then displays it in your browser just like any other web page. It's one of the most sophisticated web applications, but the translations (obviously) aren't perfect, and can sometimes be hilarious! Bob -- Everything gets easier with practice, except getting up in the morning! Article: 334337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 03:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: > Thought some here might like seeing this. > > modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book > condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like > cloth wire..... > > http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html > Dietary Fiber-challenged "Ron" will probably make his soup out of my shorts again but I homebrewed my own version of this set sans anything made of plastic or the weenie 20-25cm loop and phony horn. These sets are available on ebay and not so bad a bargain for a guy that wants to build a set but not go chasing around for individual components. You can find the schematic and details on other ebay listings. There's some yakk on ARF for those wanting to investigate deeper. Its further evidence of my "blue butchering period" of fake tubes like the Radio LL :) Its a cute little receiver - nothing to write home about and struggles to drive a horn, fake or otherwise, on anything but locals. Maybe over-represented in that regard. Toss the horn and use phones and its quite respectable for 'radio' person. http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html Its a clean sounding rig and shouldn't be any disappointment in its price class unless you compare it to an old plastic $5 clock radio. Its the kit that counts! -Bill ( the Butcher) Article: 334338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:23:53 GMT - exray - wrote: > I homebrewed my own version of this set > > http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html You tease... Where's the schematic? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> <1147677079.106354.289410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <73W9g.3259$uM4.2179@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:26:59 GMT Steven wrote: > How about if I patch my halli into my 120 watt Pioneer that "looks" > like a Icom, Drake or Yaesu? That's twice now you've posted that link. I doesn't look anything at all like an Icom or Yaesu. And most certainly not like a Drake. If anything, it looks like an over priced midrange consumer radio from the 80s. Which it is. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 04:05:57 -0400 Message-ID: <126gdjb5ge3i5f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > - exray - wrote: > >> I homebrewed my own version of this set >> >> http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html > > > You tease... Where's the schematic? > > Jeff > How's this? http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.gif -Bill Article: 334341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:33:13 GMT In article <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>, pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com says... > > >If the "hand test" is worth anything (for me it should; my hands are very >sensitive to heat) it seemed to work okay with my Zenith 6V27. I ditched the >vibrator and installed a transformer with two 2A 6V windings underchassis. >One feeds the heaters, the other feeds the old vibrator transformer. The >output of the vibrator transformer is full-wave bridge rectified, and then >on to the filter caps. The vibrator transformer doesn't get too hot and the >B voltages nearly match the original design because it's stepped up the same >way. Works nicely. > >paul > > I never liked the sound that came from the speakers Zenith used in the 6V27 radios.. something about that little pin cushion affair that just sounded tinny ... wonder if yours sounds the same or not Paul?... John Article: 334342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> <126gdjb5ge3i5f@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:45:41 GMT - exray - wrote: > How's this? > http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.gif > > -Bill Thankies Mr. Bill. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:49:34 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com... > cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Thought some here might like seeing this. >> >> modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book >> condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like >> cloth wire..... >> >> http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html >> I like your version of the peanut tube Bill. They got a little of that Arcturus sheen to em too. Cool!! -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 334344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >That motif was found on the 1936-37 810-812 front wheel drive Cord >automobiles, which was said to have the most beautiful dashboard of any car >made. It was an 'aircraft' motif. IIRC the Spirit of St. Louis was finished >the same way. I think it was called "jewelling" , although I wouldn't swear >to that at the moment. Beautiful though. E.L. Cord must have thought so too. Ah, Cords. My dream car. The ultimate mah-chine automobile. Everybody who was anybody back in the day was tooling around in one -- Amelia Earhart, John Wayne, Tom Mix, numerous gangsters. Whenever I tell poeple I want a Cord they'll say "An Accord?!! Why would you want an Accord?" :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" References: Subject: Re: Schematic for newer TV. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 10:53:07 -0230 "Brenda Ann" and others wrote in response to "Stan" re >> A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using >> Chassis A67. With top of screen fold over/linearity problem etc. >> Thank you all for the advice and guidance. Yeah I would also suspect one of those physically small electrolytics. We fixed another model with a similar vertical problem several years ago which had a faulty 4 mfd. cap about as big as end of one's finger. As a temporary fix it looked weird with two 50 year old (2Kv test) 2 mfd. caps hanging on wires off the chassis. But it worked! Since replaced it has been our daily driver for four last years! Help appreciated. Terry Article: 334346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <446878b5$0$29268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:dy_9g.149983$oL.82682@attbi_s71... > I never liked the sound that came from the speakers Zenith used in > the 6V27 radios.. something about that little pin cushion affair > that just sounded tinny ... wonder if yours sounds the same or not > Paul?... Well, it obviously can't keep up with an 8" dynamic speaker but I didn't think mine was tinny. If you expect a sound as big as the cabinet I imagine you'd be disappointed, but I thought it was passable for use, no worse than any 6" antique-radio speaker I ever listen to. Of course I'm not a particularly discriminating listener so your mileage may vary, so to speak. I had it at work for awhile and was listening to it all day long for a few weeks, it didn't bother me a bit. My set now has a 41 as the output tube that is directly driving the speaker (no output transformer). You recall that speaker has three terminals. When I did mine I left the center tap unconnected, fed B+ to one end of the speaker and connected the 41 plate to the other side. Worked surprisingly well. Doesn't make huge volume but plenty loud to listen to. paul *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" References: Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:18:34 -0230 "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:veGdnTIlqMiq6vvZRVn-rA@qx.net... >I was thinking... uh-oh! > I could bypass a 6 volt vibrator by using an output transformer with a > secondary of 2.5V [or 2.5vct]. > I had been thinking of a secondary with 6.3V and then realized the outputs > on most of the old radio transformers are AC, thus output VAC times 1.414. > **drool** > > Not sure if this is a four pin vibrator (non-synchronous) or a six pin (synchronous)? If it's the former may be worth mentioning that I operate a two tube heterodyne frequency checking wavemeter originally designed for 6 volts DC >from the 6.3 volts AC input from the heater winding of an associated receiver. The 6.3 AC heats the wavemeter tubes and is also fed to the transformer that normal steps up the chopped 6 volts DC to provide B+ (there's two 1940s metal oxide rectifiers in the B+ side by the way. Still working by the smell of it!) This was done by removing the vibrator. Then using a the base of an old tube strapping it across so that the 6.3 volts AC is permanently applied to one 'side' of the input to the transformer in place of the chopped DC that is normally fed alternately to each 'side' of the vibrator transformer (i.e. One half of the input winding is carrying the total load all the time. And the 'steady 6.3v 60 Hz. AC is just as good (cleaner probably) than the chopped DC and any "hash" (no not the pipe smoking kind!) must be less? It's worked that way for about thirty years with no sign of the vibrator transformer overheating, although we are talking ex-military gear. Also the B+ draw for the device is quite small but if the transformer in say an older type car radio can carry the wattage required by the B+ circuits the input vibrator transformer input windings should handle the amperage? Have never had to work out how to do it for synchronous circuit but must also be possible? Suggestion anyway. Figure out how to substitute using 6.3v AC from somewhere (external transformer say) instead of 6v DC. Such a transformer could be 'hidden', depending on application, in a speaker box? Article: 334348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: CAINE's amazing monoblock push-pull 6V6 amp's References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:02:43 -0400 Can you post a schematic? Ken John Byrns wrote: > I was amazed by the sophistication of the design of CAINE's Webcor dual > monoblock push-pull 6V6's after getting a look at a readable copy of the > circuit diagram. The circuit uses cathode feedback in the output stage > just like the famous QUAD II, an amplifier much favored by many > audiophiles. In addition to the cathode feedback Webcor even went so far > us to use a paraphase phase inverter circuit similar to that used in the > QUAD, although the Webcor implementation of the paraphase phase inverter > includes one design detail that I don't fully understand. These Webcor > amplifiers look like the poor man's QUAD II. Besides QUAD, Webcor was in > good company with this design, as McIntosh also used the cathode feedback > circuit in the design of their tube receivers. IIRC a similar circuit was > also used in some Bogen amplifiers like those much favored by one of the > two founders of this newsgroup, although not believing in stereo he used > only a single amplifier. > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 334349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: <126h8qta39f393@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> John Byrns wrote: > > What is "ARF", I hope it's not one of those alternative forums? > > > Regards, > > John Byrns http://antiqueradios.com/forums/ Article: 334350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Allodoxaphobia Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: 15 May 2006 16:05:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> <126gdjb5ge3i5f@corp.supernews.com> On Mon, 15 May 2006 12:45:41 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > - exray - wrote: >> How's this? >> http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.gif >> > > Thankies Mr. Bill. I really miss the Olde Tyme Wireless Apparatus where you ran the B+ through the earphones!! :-) Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 *** Killfiling google posts: Article: 334351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:11:40 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > > >Ken Scharf said: > >You can use half of a 3AG fuse holder for the grid cap connector. > > I told her about that trick already. Then again.....there's always > Leeds Radio in Brooklyn (expensive place). This guy might have grid > caps: > > http://www.leedselect.com > > http://www.leedselect.com/images-sockets/Gridcap-metal.JPG > > Four for SEVEN DOLLARS. > > Only bought from this guy ONCE, when I was in desperate need for a > cheater-cord for a small radio. Cost me five clams. >_< > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City Just think of the places you could have wandered through if they didn't gut Canal Street to build the World Trade Canter complex. Dozens of real electronics surplus shops forced out of business by greed. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LR9g.4669$UY6.2171@trnddc08> <1147675442.001496.274160@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:35:27 GMT Steven wrote: > That's because JAPANESE is hilarious, or at least because it's so > non-linear to English, like so many other languages. Languages like > Japanese, eastern European languages and dialects are seemingly quite > literal and don't lend themselves well to some of the fairly relaxed > structures of general English. Cultural differences tend to make > Western linguistic concepts more unnatural also. If you make light of > the "funny" way foreigners piece our words together, remember that they > are using the best words they know how in the way they can relate to. One of my Chinese friends once commented that English has a much bigger vocabulary compared to his home language. I mentioned that is because we have pirated lots of foreign language words to use when english words don't quite fit the needed meaning. > > I still think that any company selling VCRs etc here should honestly > let a North American draft it in English with North American readers in > mind. A friend of mine owns an advertising company, and he does a lot of work with Japanese consumer electronics companies. A big part of the work is to clean up the translations of ad copy to have it make sense to Americans. More often he does a complete rewrite of the ads. Article: 334353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4468BDBE.5D286B81@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:43:29 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > > Oh God, Michael, don't get me started.... > > Every time I think of Radio Row, I cry inside. Seriously. :( > > I hate having to rely on mail-order places for insignificant things > like capacitors, diodes and resistors. > > And the fact is....while Leeds Radio provides a service, the prices are > high. Cost of doing business, even if what was once a grand old store > is now reduced to an old garage/warehouse. > > At least Seoul, ROK still has a "Radio Row", of sorts. > -- > Steph Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. I used to mail order from a number of shops on NY's radio row back in the '70s. Some of the stuff was sold by the pound and you had to figure out what the grainy little ads meant in magazines, or the occasional catalog. If you ever visit Ohio there a still a few places there. Fair Radio in Lima, Mendelson's in Dayton and a few smaller ones. I haven't been able to get up there since Christmas of 1987 when i went up to visit my sister and other family members. http://www.fairradio.com/ http://www.meci.com/ -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> In <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > Just think of the places you could have wandered through if they >didn't gut Canal Street to build the World Trade Canter complex. That was Cortland street, "Radio Row". Canal Street's still there, but mostly selling knock-off Gucci and sun-baked duct tape. >Dozens of real electronics surplus shops forced out of business by greed. :( I moved to NYC in time for the last gasp of the "real electronic surplus shops" on Canal. Most of them went out of business because they needed to eat -- no one was buying the merchandise. I remember the auction ad in the New York Times for one of the big 'uns toward the west end of Canal. I didn't attend the auction, but later ran into one of the guys who owned the shop. He said thousands and thousands and thousands of tubes, many of which were octals, went on the block without garnering a single bid. Times change. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> <1147716822.730850.281990@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1147716822.730850.281990@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" writes: [Canal Street] >I remember being only a 17 year old puke and wandering around that area >for some 'lytics for a filter on a radio. >One store I stopped in was an air-conditioner parts place. Dusty >looking, dark joint. Only reason I went in there was because I saw ... >yeah, capacitors, in the window. The fan place! I know what you're talking about. Wonder if they're still there? I haven't taken a Saturday stroll down Canal Street in an Internet age, even though I like a coupla stops away. Gotta go again soon... -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:36:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1147694427.941618.108630@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 15 May 2006 05:00:28 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >----- Original Message ----- > >To: CAINE >Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:25 PM >Subject: Re: Audiogon listing: Fisher 500c > > >> Charlie, >> >> I've been listening to the FM on the Fisher for the better part of the >> weekend now. >> It pulls in more stations than my Sony ST-S555ES solid-state tuner, >> and with greater signal strength. >> >> The unit sounds wonderful for a 40+ year old piece of gear. >> >> It was a pleasure to do business with you. Note the quoting. It's a faked email...no headers, quotes on the body...another NudoFraud. Article: 334357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:39:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> <8tQ9g.4635$u4.133@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <4467E1F4.594F6128@earthlink.net> <9juf62dndmg20pcf141hs03upg0u7f226r@4ax.com> <4467FD58.FE4BD022@earthlink.net> On Mon, 15 May 2006 04:04:32 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >DeserTBoB wrote: >> >> On Mon, 15 May 2006 02:07:37 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" >> wrote: >> >> >My >> >favorites to collect and restore is early test equipment, and the heavy >> >duty, built to last a lifetime radios and industrial equipment. >> >> ...spoken like a man who MUST own a very nice R390! > > > Not yet, but I have been looking for one. I have to pay off my >mortgage and do a few other things, first, unless one shows up at my >door, unannounced. I seem to have that happen a lot more often than I >can explain. :) They're wonderful! A must-have is the dual concentric aluminum alignment tool for the IF cans, and there are a lot of them. Makes the long, complicated lineup much easier. Article: 334358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:27:08 GMT > > Canal Street's still > there, but mostly selling knock-off Gucci and sun-baked duct tape. > > > > I moved to NYC in time for the last gasp of the "real electronic > surplus shops" on Canal. Most of them went out of business because > they needed to eat -- no one was buying the merchandise. Back in around 1975 I was a starving college student looking for a reel to reel deck. Visited the various shops on and around Canal St. Didn't find much though I did waste about $20 on a machine that turned out to be a POS. Shopkeeper sold me the machine without the cover, said I could come back and buy the cover. Didn't as I found after I got home the thing was a real POS. Gutted it for a few tubes and a power transformer and power cord, tossed the rest of it. About 25 years later I was with a Chinese friend going to Chinatown. Canal St. is somewhat nearby. We ended up walking around the same neighborhood I was in back in 1975 but all the old shops were then Italian or Chinese restaurants (IIRC). Article: 334359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4468F273.FC87A8A5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ? References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147088976.955519.302970@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147090329.964425.117680@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8qpu529a9rrhkqof0ugdm84ackupnt2ifo@4ax.com> <1147695854.029598.32660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:28:20 GMT robert casey wrote: > > > That "100 WPC" SS advertising is BS, for the most part. Even at 20 > > watts output, the SS amp is unlistenable, due to distortion. It will > > just sound horrible. So they are advertising watts that for the most > > part, cannot be used. > > > > For some real advertising BS, take a trip down to your local Wall Mart > and look at the boom boxes. "200W @10% THD". Like you'd actually > listen to 10% THD from a SS amp! :-) Not for very long. The tweeters would burn up, followed by the amp. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: [Cord automobiles] >Visible exhaust pipes. Only the supercharged models had those. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: I almost cried Message-ID: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:55:47 GMT Then I noticed "reproduction": http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630002719 Article: 334362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 00:23:51 GMT Geeze. Talk about hard-sell. That should have a "boots needed" warning on it. It was piled really deep. All that for a Euro-design knock-off. Bets that he went to art school? Ray "Ish" wrote in message news:3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/MODERNIST-RCA-CLOCK-RADIO-Knoll-Dunbar-Era-1958_W0QQitemZ6628833227QQcategoryZ3931QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Article: 334363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <387i62dnr374de5k663vmn7q7rfp85506k@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Testing a 6B5 tube Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:02:39 -0500 Message-ID: <44691733$0$29242$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Set up your tester for 6N6. Same tube, different base. Good luck paul "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:387i62dnr374de5k663vmn7q7rfp85506k@4ax.com... > Why don't any of my tube testers list a 6B5 tube in their charts? Is > it that rare? > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:15:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> On Tue, 16 May 2006 00:23:51 GMT, "Rune" wrote: >Geeze. Talk about hard-sell. That should have a "boots needed" warning on >it. It was piled really deep. > >All that for a Euro-design knock-off. > >Bets that he went to art school? I have one in turquoise. Article: 334365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:20:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <56e5g.1247$g01.930@trnddc01> <7226-44558745-248@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <9r6b52lf0gpf4sv3ereuafa1k47fjdphbj@4ax.com> <1147740125.475516.28060@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 15 May 2006 17:42:05 -0700, helpdesk@telegrams.ca wrote: >Actually you can send a telegram in the US. That's a printed letter, similar to WUT's failed "MailGram" service that was supposed to eliminate the cost of telegram runners. Last real telegram I received via WUT was in 1979. I tipped the runner 50¢. Article: 334366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" Subject: Zenith 9S367....need belt, tabs Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:22:19 -0700 Message-ID: <4469294e$0$65425$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Finally found a shuttle dial Zenith console radio! Its got its share of problems, which I'm currently working through. The tuning belt is toast, and AES doesn't seem to have these. Anyone know of a source? Is it possible to make one? I'll also need a few of those funky plastic tabs that are used in the front bezel. Steve Article: 334367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Message-ID: <64bi621qsc9nptgmtqlfvlpog29m08h0t1@4ax.com> References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:37:32 -0500 On Mon, 15 May 2006 18:15:31 -0700, DeserTBoB wrote: >On Tue, 16 May 2006 00:23:51 GMT, "Rune" >wrote: > >>Geeze. Talk about hard-sell. That should have a "boots needed" warning on >>it. It was piled really deep. >> >>All that for a Euro-design knock-off. >> >>Bets that he went to art school? > >I have one in turquoise. Turquoise was the rarest Bakelite color, too. Article: 334368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1147740092.669608.314950@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1147741809.684150.234940@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I almost cried Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 01:39:35 GMT Now that you mention it, there _would_ have been a certain satisfaction to hearing the screams from the catalin crazies at that... Ray "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message news:1147741809.684150.234940@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > If it had been a real one I would have enjoyed it more. > Article: 334369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: I almost cried Message-ID: <_8aag.2345$Go6.2118@trnddc04> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 01:45:30 GMT With all of these goofy, crazy, messed-up radios that find their way to eBay, and get posted here for all of us to comment on, just remember they ALL have one thing in common: They're FOR SALE. . . . meaning, "I think it stinks, so I'm pawning it off on somebody else." If an artist actually did something NICE to one of these radios, and decided he likes it, it wouldn't be for sale, right? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Rune" wrote in message news:7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... > Then I noticed "reproduction": > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630002719 > > > Article: 334370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1147720095.714924.98960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: boys radio question Message-ID: <0waag.63839$x97.28725@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:10:04 GMT Was there ever a "Girl's Radio?" A "WalkWoman?" A "GameGirl?" Remember this was the era of boys and girls having separate toy lines. (Still is in Japan.) I recall them being around till 1961 at the least. Ads were pretty much limited to comic books, boy's mags, tabloids, and similar venues. These were similar to the "miracle bargains" advertised in them today. Like the "Turn your House Wiring into a Super TV Antenna", "Miracle screen turns B&W TV into COLOR TV!", "Dish Antenna grabs signals >from the AIR for FREE!", "Double Gas Mileage With Spark Intensifier," and other stuff offered to gullible people who think they can get something for nothing. The last I saw of them was ads for card and seed company premiums ("Transistor radio - sell 20 boxes") around 1963. Probably old stock or outdated ad copy. When prices for _real_ radios fell AND the public wised up sales dropped. They _were_ toys, novelties, just like the crystal sets they replaced. I only saw them in crappo stores a few times. They were mostly mail order things because if people actually saw or tried one they would never buy it. The one I got (Angel) was a "prize" I won at a movie theater. I lived in a great reception area and it could get 4 or 5 stations. I wasn't thrilled. If you lived somewhere else... There was also a "toy" duty that several companies offering handmade brass scale models later fought to get exempted from. It was lower than the electronics duty but outlasted it. If you want to know when it was dropped just find out when American brands started slapping their names on Japanese stuff. They got it overturned when it failed to keep the imports from out-competing them and they wanted cheap access. 1963-5? About the time Hong Kong radios started to appear, IIRC. Ray "wagil" wrote in message news:1147720095.714924.98960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I need help for an article I'm preparing about 2 transitor 'Boys' > radios from Japan in the mid 1950. Specifically I need help locating > the following: > > 1. a pic of a girls radio (the companion to the boys radio models > 2. Actual date of the customs restriction for Japanese radios with more > than 2 transistors. > 3. Actual date(s) 2 transistor boys radios were made > 4. An advertisement for these radios. > > Any help/clues/info appreciated. > > Wayne G. > Article: 334371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Allodoxaphobia Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: 16 May 2006 02:44:04 GMT Message-ID: References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew.] On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:09:09 -0600, Warren Weber wrote: > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com... >> cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>> Thought some here might like seeing this. >>> >>> modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book >>> condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like >>> cloth wire..... >>> >>> http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html >> >> Dietary Fiber-challenged "Ron" will probably make his soup out of my >> shorts again but I homebrewed my own version of this set sans anything >> made of plastic or the weenie 20-25cm loop and phony horn. These sets are >> available on ebay and not so bad a bargain for a guy that wants to build a >> set but not go chasing around for individual components. You can find the >> schematic and details on other ebay listings. There's some yakk on ARF for >> those wanting to investigate deeper. >> Its further evidence of my "blue butchering period" of fake tubes like the >> Radio LL :) >> Its a cute little receiver - nothing to write home about and struggles to >> drive a horn, fake or otherwise, on anything but locals. Maybe >> over-represented in that regard. Toss the horn and use phones and its >> quite respectable for 'radio' person. >> http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html >> Its a clean sounding rig and shouldn't be any disappointment in its price >> class unless you compare it to an old plastic $5 clock radio. Its the kit >> that counts! > > Beautiful workmanship. My stuff won't look that good because I am "A non > practicing perfectionist." Warren Beautiful photography, too! FB OM!! 73 Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 *** Killfiling google posts: Article: 334372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:25:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> <64bi621qsc9nptgmtqlfvlpog29m08h0t1@4ax.com> On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:37:32 -0500, Phil Witt wrote: >>I have one in turquoise. > >Turquoise was the rarest Bakelite color, too. Oooooh! I have a "rare collectable!" This radio was purchased new at Fedco on Los Angeles by my grandfather, and did yeoman morning news duty in the kitchen from date of purchase until retired for a late '70s "flipping card" clocker. I still use it at home when I need an alarm, which isn't very often. The brass legs cleaned up nicely and were relacquered. There was a similar model sans brass legs as well, as I recall. Performance is minature based AA5, nothing more, nothing less. Article: 334373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ? Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:30:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147697408.984283.129540@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147706908.212228.193760@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147712421.446929.59660@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147715873.170367.296720@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1147741689.667236.95460@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 15 May 2006 18:08:09 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >The Saint-Saens (on a good recording) runs at about 20dB over-average >for that entire two minutes. Within that two minutes, there are >repeated and proximate 30dB peaks when the bombard That's "bombarde," and it's not the bombardes that provides all the power. The chordal figures of the thrid movement are all at tutti...full organ, including 32' pedal basses, which are the true test of any high fidelity system in the bottom end range. Very, very few systems can truly handle the bottom octave of a 32' rank. Article: 334374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: Zenith info from Riders needed Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:46:14 -0500 Message-ID: <44693d8a$0$24297$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:S8SdnUH2kuUtovTZRVn-ug@comcast.com... >Could someone take a look at the Riders index and see what other info is >available? I'll be happy to pay for scans of the additional info. Riders has nothing else. The original Zenith manual only had two pages for this model. The same schematic and parts list you're looking at, and a second page with socket voltages, trimmer locations and alignme