Article: 335956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:36:22 GMT Congratulations Dave! There's a difference between buying a working radio, buying a radio and doing the recap/clean scenario, and actually rebuilding a mess and bringing it back to life. You'll enjoy every minute you spend listening to it. Of course we all just learned that Zenith is no good, so maybe it's all for naught. Ho hum . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > That 15 tube Zenith chassis that had the fire lives to play tunes > another day! Whew! New band switch (3 deck), new octal socket, > numerous terminal strips, new first detector and oscillator coils and a > bunch of new wiring. The fire also melted the stator on the tuning > condensor. Luckily, the power tranny was still good. My bet is the > fire started on the middle switch deck, which just happens to be > switching B+. Replacement parts were taken from a 9S chassis of the > same year that had the same parts. It took about 25 hours. > Dave > Article: 335957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:42:11 GMT For an original cabinet I don't know. More than likely you'll hear different terms from different companies. For example, Philco might call the front a "trim panel", whereas Zenith might call it a "bezel" and RCA a "control cluster." In many cases the cabinet was built by someone else, such as Kiel or Pooley, and they may have used different terms still. Aside >from calling the front a back, I don't think there are any incorrect answers. Of course I have visions of "A", "BB", "XX", "E", "F", and "G." -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Ken wrote: >> Anyone have a reference on what the different parts of a console radio >> cabinet are named? Like I call the heavy wood at the bottom the 'kick >> board'. Is this correct? I guess the sides and top are self explanatory, >> but what about the various pannels that make up the front? There must >> have been names for all the pieces at the furnature factory. > > i call the bottom base or foot. control panel was one term used for the > front where the knobs were. > Article: 335958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Peter" References: <127crr7std22n26@corp.supernews.com> <1148618385.034999.39510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148665951.755079.63870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148671230.532512.227120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150044711.018433.58310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150078931.703921.185060@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [BS meter pegged] Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:46:01 -0400 Hi Larry A few questions: "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns97DFED6D6C0F0noonehomecom@208.49.80.253... > > bought from VOA, mounted in the fish hold of an old Canadian offshore > fishing trawler, steel hulled. On deck were two big towers with two T > cage antennas that terminated in a big insulator going through the big > hatch to the fish hold into one of the balanced 600 ohm output terminals, > the other one just dead ending under the hatch to launch the RF skyward. > When it was running, everyone and everything inside glowed blue from the > 70KW the beast would put out peak. WARNING - RF IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR > HEALTH! Was this a balanced antenna; or was it a single ended antenna that was working against the hull (counterpoise?) If balanced, the RF currents through the hull should have been very minimal... Besides.. > > > It wasn't going to work, anyways....The RF current through the hull in > the river was EATING THE HULL as it transferred the RF current into the > salt water. I told them I thought the bottom paint was arcing through as > it did glow at night under there.... Larry, metal hull damage is usually caused by electrolysis caused by a DC currents. A sacrificial zince anode is usually used (reverses the current flow) to control the problem. None-the-less, I'd think an AC voltage (RF) would completely negate it's effect on the hull with each cycle--such as why they AC signals to protect a LCD display from the same damage--can you provide a reference that refutes this? Pete Article: 335959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mandierules23@webtv.net (Amanda McCathern) Subject: Free Gift Catalog! Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:13:02 -0400 Message-ID: <12880-449597AE-862@storefull-3353.bay.webtv.net> --WebTV-Mail-4562-9853 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-4562-9853 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
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--WebTV-Mail-4562-9853-- Article: 335960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150519373.076813.27320@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:32:44 GMT Have to dig it out,far as i remeber it wasnt too bad. "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150519373.076813.27320@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > > Robert Mozeleski wrote: >> I've got one but not good condition. No tubes,top for power supply is missing(probably meaning the dreaded tar removal is in >> order) >> It's been hiding under a bench here for a few years.You can have it for $10 plus ship. >> >> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Eddie Brimer wrote: >> >> must be good condition. > > > robert, how is the cosmetic condition? > Article: 335961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:43:47 GMT Here's 2 pictures, front is all surface rust. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/441.jpg http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/442.jpg "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> Tubes are easy, and with it going inside the Pooley >> bar cabinet it don't really matter what the box is like. >> $10 sounds like a deal to me. >> >> Ron > > > ron's probably right. as long as the front and knobs are good, then > i'll take it. > Article: 335962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: <12182-4495ADC9-150@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: But I forgot what I diddy did did. cuhulin Article: 335963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495AE5F-698@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: cuhulin is not Steven.(Meaning no disrespect to the Stevens in the World) But if you want to think I am Steven,whats it to me? cuhulin Article: 335964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: rebuild the FP cans - yourself Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:04:31 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B1CF-703@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <0qadneUau4CMlw_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com> Awww now,Gary.You know as well as I do that you can't completly get out of the radio fixin business. Which reminds me,maybe I ought to phone old man Otto Wise in the City five miles West of me and let him (he is over eighty years old,he likes to repair one or two radios each week) check out a few of my old beat up good old radios. cuhulin Article: 335965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4495B48B.172FD363@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [BS meter pegged] References: <127crr7std22n26@corp.supernews.com> <1148618385.034999.39510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148665951.755079.63870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148671230.532512.227120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150044711.018433.58310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150078931.703921.185060@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:16:48 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > Hi Larry > > A few questions: > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns97DFED6D6C0F0noonehomecom@208.49.80.253... > > > bought from VOA, mounted in the fish hold of an old Canadian offshore > > fishing trawler, steel hulled. On deck were two big towers with two T > > cage antennas that terminated in a big insulator going through the big > > hatch to the fish hold into one of the balanced 600 ohm output terminals, > > the other one just dead ending under the hatch to launch the RF skyward. > > When it was running, everyone and everything inside glowed blue from the > > 70KW the beast would put out peak. WARNING - RF IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR > > HEALTH! > > Was this a balanced antenna; or was it a single ended antenna that was > working against the hull (counterpoise?) If balanced, the RF currents > through the hull should have been very minimal... Besides.. > > > > > > It wasn't going to work, anyways....The RF current through the hull in > > the river was EATING THE HULL as it transferred the RF current into the > > salt water. I told them I thought the bottom paint was arcing through as > > it did glow at night under there.... > > Larry, metal hull damage is usually caused by electrolysis caused by a DC > currents. A sacrificial zince anode is usually used (reverses the > current flow) to control the problem. None-the-less, I'd think an AC > voltage (RF) would completely negate it's effect on the hull with each > cycle--such as why they AC signals to protect a LCD display from the > same damage--can you provide a reference that refutes this? > > Pete I agree. Its more likely that they got the old tub because they knew it was already getting too thin to float much longer. It is possible that there was a small DC current flow form the atmosphere into the towers and out through the hull, but it takes a lot of current to dissolve the heavy steel plates used in the hull of a ship. By larry's logic ham radio and broadcast towers wouldn't last more than a few years. On the other hand, Larry never lets the truth stand in the way of one of his tall tales. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Getting out of service Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:13:30 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B3EA-708@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Bruce,you ever seen that Balaams Ass (Steve Van Nattan's Piano Service) website before? I bet you have. When I was a little boy,in me auld little home town,my family owned a fancy old piano,the kind that the top opened up,real fancy,with scrolled wood work.It had glass balls in the legs/feet of the piano and I was told,real Ivory keys.That was back in the 1940's. cuhulin Article: 335967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Getting out of service Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:15:11 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B44F-709@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I know what I want to ''restore'' cuhulin Article: 335968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:20:59 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B5AB-710@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: There was a guy by the last name of Noble in our U.S.Army ARADCOM Company at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963.Noble was voicing/threating to kill his wife. cuhulin Article: 335969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Well, Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:29:32 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B7AC-711@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> I guess my Bogalusa,Louisiana (dont worry about it.I live next door to them Louisiana Cajuns and I just barely can understand them CoonAsses meself) floor model wind up old phonograph doesn't bear much mention >from the phonograph hounds in this news group.But,Thanks anyway. cuhulin Article: 335970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:05:59 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495C037-719@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <13170-4495563F-691@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> DIAL COVER,YOU ARE A OK.I SEE YOU ARE SMART AND YOU USE WEBTV TOO.I am still trying to remember what it was I did.Maybe I will ask that Bell South woman next door when she gets back from Natchez tonight. cuhulin Article: 335971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:10:39 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495C14F-720@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: If I was going to change my nic,I would get a sex change operaton and call meself,Stella. cuhulin Article: 335972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 References: <9kUkg.25783$EX2.5606@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <14061-4494228D-627@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:16:48 -0400 Ken G. wrote: > Find a good capacitor close in value and touch it across ones in the > radio while its playing to show you if the ones in there are weak . > > Superglue is not good for speaker cones . > If you need the speaker reconed and want to spend the $ i recone them > with NOS cones . > The speaker only had one small tear, and it sounds ok for now. Is it possible to recone such a small speaker (2.5")? The voice coil is 1/2" or less in dia. Article: 335973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: y'all Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495CFD0-735@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> need to rename this so-called ''news group'' Oviously,most of y'all dont care to comment on old phonographs,of which I own two. cuhulin Article: 335974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: FA, Western Electric model 6025-B Amplifier manual, MINT!!! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:03:57 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9743886864 Up for auction on ebay. Western Electric model 6025-B Amplifier manual, MINT!!! This Western Electric manual looks like it just came out of a time machine. It is MINT+. This is for the very rare model 6025B amplifier. You’re not likely to find a better example of a 1920s piece of paper, anywhere. Buyer to pay Priority Mail postage and insurance on final bid amount. International bidders please contact me before bidding to assure that item can be mailed to you with Global Priority Mail. Payment via PayPal ONLY. There’s no way you will find a better example. This is not a reprint, it is 100% original. Ron - Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Article: 335975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:10:18 -0600 Message-ID: <2327-4495EB6A-931@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes . I have been sent a few Zenith 500`s for repair where the speaker magnet had gotten some sort of corrosion that welded the voice coil in place . I had to rebuild the whole speaker with new voice coil , spider , cone and outer gasket . I have reconed a few other non Zenith with the same size speaker . Article: 335976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Where can I buy connectors to fit my 1943 Bang & Olufsen (photo) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:25:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: JeffS wrote: > I've never encountered this sort of connector before: > > http://boulder.net/~4season/master43k_connector.jpg For Antenna or Phono? Phono maybe 1. O [] O 2. O O O Please reply the distance of the pins. Kind Regards Georg Article: 335977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Want to buy NOS (Philips Miniwatt?) UBL1, UY1, UM4 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:27:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <0redncYH_J16UgjZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@csd.net> JeffS wrote: > I can pay via PayPal. > > Thanks > Jeff > > eBay: 4seasonphoto. Did you ask JANWUESTEN? Kind Regards Georg Article: 335978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4495EEC9.638D1E71@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:25:20 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Good news: That lead free solder I've been using is definitely NOT > from the plumbing aisle. I headed to the local hardware store. They > had the 60/40 rosin core solder. While I was there, I noticed that all > the plumbing solder was clearly marked "acid core", and those with > paper labels all used red printing (other than the solid wire type). > The electronic variety was all marked "rosin core" and in blue printing > on the labels - just like the lead free that I have been using. > > Still almost grabbed the wrong one. Turns out there's also a 40/60 > (general electrical work) and 50/50 (general purpose). The 60/40 was > labeled for "Fine Electrical", such as PC boards and the like. > Unfortunately, they only had it in a little tube for $2 (.8 oz). The > others were available in a larger spool at $3.69 (4 oz). Rather than > flux, they had solder paste in a tin, and the guy at the hardware store > swears it's the same thing and safe for electronics. I haven't tried > using it yet, in case you all tell me it's the wrong stuff. > > Tried the 60/40, and boy, did that melt fast! A quick touch of the > iron, a dab of solder and it was done instantly. That lead free stuff > takes a LOT longer to melt. > > So, I guess the deformed iron tips were just caused by low-quality tip > material. The hardware store actually had the tips I need for the 40 > watt Weller, but they were $9.50 for a set of two. I already blew my > "play money" budget for this week. I also managed to locate my old > iron, so I'll use that one - at least until the tip falls out! It's a > tad loose, and I'm not certain at this point if I can tighten it... > I'll check it out later in the week. > > Many thanks to the guys who provided all the helpful and enlightening > information. > > Gerry Solder paste is a gelled flux for soldering copper plumbing, and paste solder is for electronics. Paste solder is used to manufacture surface mount PC boards. It has very, very fine solder particles suspended in the paste. It is either applied through a laser cut solder mask, or with a tiny hypodermic needle and a metering pump, one joint at a time. The solder paste is good for re-tinning a damaged tip, if you clean all the flux off when you're done. You can file down a damaged tip and re-tin it a couple times. Dip the hot tip in the tin of solder paste and apply a little solder to tin the hot & newly cleaned metal before it oxidizes again. You can use any solder on hand for this, because you have to wipe all but the thin protective layer off. I use a soft brass brush to clean away the flux and oxidized solder. If you use a steel brush it will scratch through the plating. Also, don't use your solder iron tip to pry a wire from a terminal. There are aluminum or stainless steel tools made for this job. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:06 -0600 Message-ID: <2327-4495EDB6-932@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150662988.284339.124790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I read the threads about this . I just have a hunch that radio was the victim of major lightning . I have seen many modern tv sets that were lightninged and its wierd what it can do . Article: 335980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4495F029.544B77F0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:31:12 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > While lead-based solder is still available, you should buy a couple pounds > (at least) of 63/37 tin/lead (or is it lead/tin?) rosin-core eutectic > solder. You will not regret it. Its tin/lead. 63/37 is eutectic, and a mildly active RMA rosin flux does the best job for normal soldering. My favorite brand is Ersin, and has been for over 35 years. Heathkit used Alpha Metals which worked fine on newly made parts, but had problems with old stock parts. Most TV shops used Kester, because it was the cheapest that did a decent job, and a lot of supply houses only carried kester, so they didn't have much choice. I ordered the Ersin from OEM suppliers and I still have about a half dozen different types and sizes on hand. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:19:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > While lead-based solder is still available, you should buy a couple pounds > (at least) of 63/37 tin/lead (or is it lead/tin?) rosin-core eutectic > solder. You will not regret it. > > Indeed, this is sound advice for the vintage radiophile. I've got about 15 pounds of Multicore 63/37 and another 5 pounds or so of Kester 63/37 in my reserves in the event the solder manufacturers are ever compelled to go unleaded. Whenever I use a pound or so, I replenish it with fresh stuff. This prevents my reserves from depleting and keeps my ear to the ground about availability of the classic lead/tin alloy solder. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:33:16 -0500 Message-ID: <12182-4495F0CC-160@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I know a guy who once tried to solder up a 1966 Alfa Romero with a regular bar of solder.In the first place,he should have had sense enough to not have bought that spaghetti car at all.Some people never learn. cuhulin Article: 335983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: I did Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:48:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8564-44951CD8-101@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <13170-44955699-692@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> <449566A5.BCE7FBE4@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell > Bill Turner wrote: > > > > HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE THOUSANDS LAUGHING AT YOU NOW. > > > That is exactly what he wants. He is a lonely old troll. Take a > look on news:rec.radio.shortwave to see what I'm talking about. Be patient, laughing is healthy! Forgot to mention: cuhulin is an archetype. I like his comments ... every now and then ;-) Georg Article: 335984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: I did Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:09:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> "Ken G." wrote in message news:1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net... > cuhulin is Steven > No he isn't. cuhulin is and has been a reg on rec.radio.shortwave for a couple years, and lives in Mississippi. Article: 335985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Early 1900s Dictaphone Cylinder recorder to give away Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <129bugepi6osm3e@corp.supernews.com> I have a Model 12 "Type B" DICTAPHONE cylinder recorder that I'll give away if you'll either pick it up or pay the shipping on. The device was manufactured in the early 1900s. Its motor runs but I do not know what pieces may be missing. It is OLD. It comes on its own stand and additionally has a foot pedal arrangement for starting and stopping the recording. This Dictaphone was manufactured prior to the company being bought by Edison and becoming Edison Dictaphone. Pictures available on request. Smokey telegrapher@hotmail.com -- Important note: When replying to my e-mail please delete the words, "nospam" >from my e-mail address. Article: 335986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [BS meter pegged] Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:56:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4gtb92t7vpth9cp8sjhgv96qn0dndr122d@4ax.com> References: <1150044711.018433.58310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150078931.703921.185060@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:46:01 -0400, "Uncle Peter" wrote: >Larry, metal hull damage is usually caused by electrolysis caused by a DC >currents. A sacrificial zince anode is usually used (reverses the >current flow) to control the problem. None-the-less, I'd think an AC >voltage (RF) would completely negate it's effect on the hull with each >cycle--such as why they AC signals to protect a LCD display from the >same damage--can you provide a reference that refutes this? Uncle Ginzo's right about this...although he still can't admit he doesn't know how to figure the RMS value of power from a P-P voltage! Article: 335987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "LEONARD TAMULONIS" Subject: WTB: Radio Amateur Callbook 1959-1962 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:17:40 GMT Hi! Looking for a Radio Amateur Callbook (North American Edition) any year >from 1959 to 1962. Looking for an entry for W1MEL in New Hampshire. If you have one, will pay good price plus shipping. Please e-mail me. Thanks! Article: 335988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "LEONARD TAMULONIS" Subject: WTB: Radio AMateur Callbook 1959-1962 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:17:41 GMT Hi! Looking to buy a Radio Amateur Callbook (North American Edition) any year from 1959-1962. Should have an entry for W1MEL in New Hampshire. Will pay good price plus shipping. Please e-mail me lenny-t@verizon.net . Thanks! Article: 335989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:33:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150662988.284339.124790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> nesesu wrote: > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > >>That 15 tube Zenith chassis that had the fire lives to play tunes >>another day! Whew! New band switch (3 deck), new octal socket, >>numerous terminal strips, new first detector and oscillator coils and a >>bunch of new wiring. The fire also melted the stator on the tuning >>condensor. Luckily, the power tranny was still good. My bet is the >>fire started on the middle switch deck, which just happens to be >>switching B+. Replacement parts were taken from a 9S chassis of the >>same year that had the same parts. It took about 25 hours. > Dave, I don't suppose you have any before and after photos?? Sound like > it was a gratifying job when you ended up with sound again! > If anything, he will think long and hard about ever getting rid of it.... About 25 years ago, I did one of my first basket-case restorations....A 1948 Westinghouse console that had been donated to my high school's electronics shop as a parts set. It was not hard to see why it was donated; the chassis showed obvious signs of spectacular and tragic power transformer failure. It had obviously caught fire and got so hot under the chassis that the area around the transformer mounts warped and buckled from the heat. The fire took out all of the components in the FM section of this AM/FM/SW console, and most of the audio components as well. The electronics instructor at the school said that it was too far gone and no one would ever be able to repair it. That was all the motivation I needed.....I set out to prove him wrong and I did it. It took many hours of effort, but I eventually had a radio that played perfectly on all bands and sounded very sweet. I've moved about 10 times since then, but I still have that radio...It is one of my permanent keepers. I will never get rid of it because of the unforgettable experience of bringing it back from the very door of death. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Mon Jun 19 17:33:38 EDT 2006 Article: 335990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: 5Y3 test weak Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:58:08 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <129c0ruf11ag312@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!feeder.news-service.com!feed.xsnews.nl!feeder.xsnews.nl!sn-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-03!sn-post-ams-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:335990 I have a bunch of 5Y3 tubes that test into the "?" range on my B&K 747 tester. Do these tubes normally test weak? I have never come across one that is strong. Thanks, David Article: 335991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Zenith T0 5OA1 Tube References: Message-ID: <7Lnlg.38169$3B.228@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:13:23 GMT If it has failed, you can purchase an Amperite D5TF30 to replace it. They are current production, cheap and easily found. I have one in my A600, which I am listening to at this very moment! Ish wrote: > Hi All, > I think the 5OA1 tube in my 600 has gone. The radio still works on > battery, but not on AC. > > Is there a way to check continuity on this tube? > > Thanks > ISH Article: 335992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44960C0A.86C03349@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! References: <1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150662988.284339.124790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:30:10 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: > > nesesu wrote: > > > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > > > >>That 15 tube Zenith chassis that had the fire lives to play tunes > >>another day! Whew! New band switch (3 deck), new octal socket, > >>numerous terminal strips, new first detector and oscillator coils and a > >>bunch of new wiring. The fire also melted the stator on the tuning > >>condensor. Luckily, the power tranny was still good. My bet is the > >>fire started on the middle switch deck, which just happens to be > >>switching B+. Replacement parts were taken from a 9S chassis of the > >>same year that had the same parts. It took about 25 hours. > > > Dave, I don't suppose you have any before and after photos?? Sound like > > it was a gratifying job when you ended up with sound again! > > > > If anything, he will think long and hard about ever getting rid of it.... > > About 25 years ago, I did one of my first basket-case restorations....A > 1948 Westinghouse console that had been donated to my high school's > electronics shop as a parts set. It was not hard to see why it was > donated; the chassis showed obvious signs of spectacular and tragic > power transformer failure. It had obviously caught fire and got so hot > under the chassis that the area around the transformer mounts warped and > buckled from the heat. The fire took out all of the components in the FM > section of this AM/FM/SW console, and most of the audio components as well. > > The electronics instructor at the school said that it was too far gone > and no one would ever be able to repair it. That was all the motivation > I needed.....I set out to prove him wrong and I did it. It took many > hours of effort, but I eventually had a radio that played perfectly on > all bands and sounded very sweet. > > I've moved about 10 times since then, but I still have that radio...It > is one of my permanent keepers. I will never get rid of it because of > the unforgettable experience of bringing it back from the very door of > death. > > -Scott > > -- > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! > Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: > http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm > (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) > > Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD > and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: What did your teacher have to say about your radio after you finished, or did you get a chance to show it to him? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:59:01 GMT On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:45:19 -0700, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >> The lead free solder needs a bit more heat, and ends up being >> less shiny once it cools. The stuff has worked for me, but I prefer >> leaded solder... The lead free solder uses antonony(sp). > >Antimony. > >"There's... antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium, >And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium >And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium, >And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium, >Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium >And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium >And gold, protactinium and indium and gallium (inhale) >And iodine and thorium and thulium and thalium." > yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, And strontium... Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 335994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 5Y3 test weak Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:15:28 +0900 Message-ID: References: <129c0ruf11ag312@corp.supernews.com> <1150683549.119528.30990@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "nesesu" wrote in message news:1150683549.119528.30990@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > David, if you have a working radio that uses the 5Y3, you can just use > a DVM to measure the AC voltage on the plate and the DC voltage at the > filament, relative to the transformer 'B' winding centre tap and check > an RCA tube manual 5Y3 curve at around 80mA and see if the output > voltage is about what the curve shows. If it is about right, then your > tube tester calibration is off; if the DC voltage is low by 15-20V then > the tubes are, indeed, weak. > Naturally you want to be careful doing the measurements since you are > dealing with potentially lethal voltages! > > Don't you need to multiply that AC voltage by 1.414 and then compare it to the filtered DC? Article: 335995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <44961a56$0$9861$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Brian McAllister" wrote in message news:oh4c925unhcb5jhbmba6ugmbedi86siaiu@4ax.com... >>"There's... antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium, >>And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium >>And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium, >>And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium, >>Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium >>And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium >>And gold, protactinium and indium and gallium (inhale) >>And iodine and thorium and thulium and thalium." >> > yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, > And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, > And strontium... and silicon and silver and samarium, And bismuth, bromine, lithium, beryllium and barium. There's holmium and helium and hafnium and erbium And phosphorous and francium and fluorine and terbium And manganese and mercury, molybdinum, magnesium, Dysprosium and scandium and cerium and cesium And lead, praseodymium, platinum, plutonium, Paladium, promethium, potassium, polonium, Tantalum, technetium, titanium, tellurium, And cadmium and calcium and ......... -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Mon Jun 19 17:33:38 EDT 2006 Article: 335996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:27:08 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 28 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!news.litech.org!news.glorb.com!news.astraweb.com!router2.astraweb.com!216.168.1.175.MISMATCH!sn-xt-sjc-15!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:335996 I bought a pair of speakers at a yard sale and need help identifying them. First of all they are Jensen Gold/Brown labels, that's why I bought them. The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 So I assume that 220 = Jensen 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? 45 = 45th week of the year C = Jensen "Concert" series 15 = 15 inch PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS Any help would be appreciated with other numbers if they mean anything. The magnets do look rather small so I imagine that they do not handle a lot of power. Thanks, David Article: 335997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:37:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> they are 16 inch if I remember right - I have a 16 inch TT sitting here, but it's dark, can't go measure it. Any TT will do, it's the tonearm that's the trick - photo of my TT is on my web page (www.wbnoble.com) in the forsale section - I sold the tonearm a long time ago, no photo of that. On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:47:07 -0400, "David" wrote: >I do not have one to measure but I am looking at a turntable that might play >them but I need to know if they are exactly 16" dia or run larger or >smaller. >Thanks >Dave > Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 335998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I did From: "mike48151" References: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:27:09 GMT On 18-Jun-2006, "Brenda Ann" wrote: >> cuhulin is Steven > > No he isn't. > > cuhulin is and has been a reg on rec.radio.shortwave for a couple years, and > lives in Mississippi. I was wonder whether, in this case, "Steven" might serve as a metaphor -- in effect an adjective. Then "cuhulin is Steven" might make perfect sense even if _the_ Steven weren't cuhulin. Article: 335999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Decca Deccalian 90 radiogram from about 1951 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:06:33 +0100 Message-ID: I have the service sheet and the original incredibly complicated string path agrees with the graphic details. There is no spring in line with the string and using tuning knob will tune in one direction only. Anyone know why there should be such a biased response , there is only 1 turn around the control shaft.? Other than cleaning all bearings to decrease drag is it advisable to add a spring in line of the string otherwise.? I see no way of replacing with exactly the right (presumably slightly reduced ) string length without a spring. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, electronic hints and repair briefs http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Message-ID: <8e2d92p37ontiofuii34hki3dvkl9f95ej@4ax.com> References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <449620BF.687CF4DD@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:29:28 GMT On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:58:24 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >Brian McAllister wrote: >> yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, >> And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, >> And strontium... > > > You forgot "Unobtainium". ;-) ...These are the only ones of which the news has come to Ha'vard, And there may be many others, but the haven't been discavard. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:06:02 GMT Mark, Almost looks like your repro knobs on it. That is one gorgeous radio, way way out of my price range though. Larry Fowkes "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:qJ6dnRZEGvQKewnZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > This is one rare and beautiful radio! a 6 tube tombstone ca: 1932 but what > a cabinet! > > Search "Ozarka" on ebay. > > For some reason, I cant always highlight and copy the ebay search that is > shown in the box above the auction listing. Can anyone explain why? > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 336002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Decca Deccalian 90 radiogram from about 1951 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:41:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: n cook wrote in message news:e760dv$sfp$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > I have the service sheet and the original incredibly complicated string path > agrees with the graphic details. > There is no spring in line with the string and using tuning knob will tune > in one direction only. Anyone know why there should be such a biased > response , there is only 1 turn around the control shaft.? Other than > cleaning all bearings to decrease drag is it advisable to add a spring in > line of the string otherwise.? I see no way of replacing with exactly the > right (presumably slightly reduced ) string length without a spring. > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > electronic hints and repair briefs > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > Found a spring inside the large pulley attached to the air-vaned cap and retensioned. Article: 336003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram ,1951 or so. The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically but not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, electronic hints and repair briefs http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: "n cook" wrote in message news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram ,1951 > or so. > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically but > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > electronic hints and repair briefs > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to home' part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without any resistance ?) If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen from this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty straight forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be freed up with a liberal application of WD40. //Clive. Article: 336005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4496BBFB.1752B2DB@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <449620BF.687CF4DD@earthlink.net> <8e2d92p37ontiofuii34hki3dvkl9f95ej@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:00:49 GMT Brian McAllister wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:58:24 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > wrote: > > >Brian McAllister wrote: > > >> yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, > >> And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, > >> And strontium... > > > > > > You forgot "Unobtainium". ;-) > > ...These are the only ones of which the news has come to Ha'vard, > And there may be many others, but the haven't been discavard. > > Brian McAllister > > Sarasota, Florida > > email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Like administratium? The heaviest element in the known universe. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Mon Jun 19 17:33:39 EDT 2006 Article: 336006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:34:57 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <129dgobnlpcadef@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> <1150711400.137509.248030@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 49 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!news.wind.surfnet.nl!surfnet.nl!surfnet.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!tudelft.nl!txtfeed2.tudelft.nl!feed.xsnews.nl!feeder.xsnews.nl!sn-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-08!sn-ams!sn-feed-ams-01!sn-post-ams-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336006 "Steven" wrote in message news:1150711400.137509.248030@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > David Axt wrote: >> I bought a pair of speakers at a yard sale and need help identifying >> them. >> >> First of all they are Jensen Gold/Brown labels, that's why I bought them. >> >> The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 >> >> So I assume that 220 = Jensen >> >> 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? >> >> 45 = 45th week of the year >> >> C = Jensen "Concert" series >> >> 15 = 15 inch >> >> PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS >> >> Any help would be appreciated with other numbers if they mean anything. >> >> The magnets do look rather small so I imagine that they do not handle a >> lot >> of power. >> >> Thanks, >> David > > Don't know myself but > > 1. Lucky YOU > > 2.What did you pay? > > Still enjoying my hidden pait of tweeters immensely. > 1. Thanks 2. $65 for the pair. -DA Article: 336007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: nospam4me@mytrashmail.com (Herb Oxley) Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > in my reserves in the event the solder manufacturers are ever compelled > to go unleaded. I think lead solder for electronics is likely to disappear as a consumer commodity within the next couple years and be totally outlawed within the next 5 years ( except for critical mil-spec and " Man Rated " electronics) now that leadfree solder is available. Anyone here have an idea of the shelf life of leaded electronic solder? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Herb Oxley From: address IS Valid. Article: 336008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:56:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: Clive wrote in message news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > "n cook" wrote in message > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram ,1951 > > or so. > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically > but > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > > > -- > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to home' > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without any > resistance ?) > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen from > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty straight > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be freed > up with a liberal application of WD40. > > file://Clive. > > > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www pic http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg that is normal. Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end stop for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the wrong side of the linkages from the main mechanism. Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm pivot I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks the switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, disconnected >from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving to lift point. I'll have another explore tomorrow. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, electronic hints and repair briefs http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4496CF49.A86F7604@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:23:12 GMT Herb Oxley wrote: > > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > > in my reserves in the event the solder manufacturers are ever compelled > > to go unleaded. > > I think lead solder for electronics is likely to disappear as a consumer > commodity within the next couple years and be totally outlawed within the > next 5 years ( except for critical mil-spec and " Man Rated " electronics) > now that leadfree solder is available. > > Anyone here have an idea of the shelf life of leaded electronic solder? > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Herb Oxley > From: address IS Valid. Infinite, if you seal it properly. You can still use it with liquid RMA flux if the surface oxidizes a little. I have some partial spools of 30 year old spools of Ersin solder that still works like it should. Keep it clean and dry, and wrapped on a spool. Those loose wads that get tossed in a toolbox and get handled too much will corrode from the acids and oils in your skin. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: you're right, those DO look like my wood repro knobs PK971, but I dont think they are. Just a hair off... The PK971 were originally AK knobs circa 1934 or so., The PK903 are RCA/GE copies from 1931 or so. I started supplying them around 1987 to AES, now I sell hundreds per year directly thru eBay as well. Mark Oppat "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:Kqwlg.46610$fb2.16158@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > Mark, > > Almost looks like your repro knobs on it. That is one gorgeous radio, way > way out of my price range though. > > Larry Fowkes > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:qJ6dnRZEGvQKewnZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > This is one rare and beautiful radio! a 6 tube tombstone ca: 1932 but > what > > a cabinet! > > > > Search "Ozarka" on ebay. > > > > For some reason, I cant always highlight and copy the ebay search that is > > shown in the box above the auction listing. Can anyone explain why? > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > > > Article: 336011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:47:07 -0400, "David" wrote: >I do not have one to measure but I am looking at a turntable that might play >them but I need to know if they are exactly 16" dia or run larger or >smaller. Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:50:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150337599.297628.74500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150455087.012457.277570@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150542680.300392.166610@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1150543185.012350.67890@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150607920.033728.77060@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1150632719.574727.71940@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150686384.157529.261390@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 18 Jun 2006 20:06:24 -0700, "Gerry" wrote: >One in particular that >comes to mind is Randy Thornton of Walt Disney Records. He did an >excellent job on the recently restored "Mary Poppins", but when it came >to the Disney Park attraction audio, he really botched it so badly that >often the original records sound better than his CDs. I was able to >take some of that same Park audio (secretly copied from original >recording sessions kept in the Disney archives for me by insiders) and >I've done a far superior restoration and remix. The commercially >released CD is crap. The new crop of "engineers" in audio are idiots, by and large. They don't know the basics...everything's computer this, computer that...they really don't know what makes a cut sound well to the listener. Lately, the big "new thing" in rock CDs is "clipping"...yes, I mean digital clipping, where the peaks are shaved at the top by overdriving! Some little snotnose now in the industry put a name to this..."enhanced reality" or some such crap. How it came about was that garage bands would come into your local shopping center studio and record, but yell at the owner, "...and it's gotta be THIS loud!" and hold up a CD of some competing band with a major label contract, with the recorded "stuff" (I don't really call it music, per se) compressed all to crap. Not to be outdone, the "engineer" rams the drive level up to the point where the peak meters are banging the red on every peak...a disaster to any cultured ear or reasonable engineer, but that's how they get it "louder." Of course, the finished result is garbage. Another problem with the come-lately bunch of snotnose kids posing as engineers is that they have NO clue as to the properties of analog tape. If you hand them a reel of anything (much less a reel of long stored Scotch 111!) they blanche and start "improvising." Most probably haven't heard audio on good studio monitors; those horrid little "cubes" suffice for them! I'm afeared that "high fidelity" as we knew it in the latter 20th century is all but dead, replaced by irritating "noise." Article: 336013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Garyhaite" Subject: test Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:20:13 GMT Article: 336014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150676438.405068.107030@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150716149.355324.32340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:02:09 GMT Steven wrote: > I used to think the names of chicken parts were racy until I saw a bag > in the deli with 1 breast and one thigh.. > And why plugs are called male and female and what the analogy was... Oh, to go back to 14 years old, but all the knowledge I have now. Except for drinking.... (make it 21 then). Article: 336015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Shelton" References: Subject: Re: Where can I buy connectors to fit my 1943 Bang & Olufsen (photo) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:06:27 GMT I posted a scan of the instructions for the Telefunken Jubilee Phono plug which looks very much like yours - maybe Telefunken can supply. Bob "JeffS" wrote in message news:eo6dne7CaL93SAjZnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@csd.net... > I've never encountered this sort of connector before: > > http://boulder.net/~4season/master43k_connector.jpg Article: 336016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:27:02 GMT Tried your name at aol.com no go. "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Robert Mozeleski wrote: >> Here's 2 pictures, front is all surface rust. >> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/441.jpg >> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/442.jpg > >> > > > paypal? > email me off group. same name. > eddie > Article: 336017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: a radio buffet From: "mike48151" References: <1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:27:40 GMT The radios witrh bakelite cases are pretty obviously highly toxic junk. I'll ensure that they receive proper disposal if you ship them to me. Article: 336018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: <7cIlg.2610$DI2.679@trnddc05> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:29:39 GMT Think i got it eb062559 "Robert Mozeleski" wrote in message news:G9Ilg.2609$DI2.197@trnddc05... > Tried your name at aol.com no go. > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> >> Robert Mozeleski wrote: >>> Here's 2 pictures, front is all surface rust. >>> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/441.jpg >>> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/442.jpg >> >>> > >> >> paypal? >> email me off group. same name. >> eddie >> > > Article: 336019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1150719373.128859.142680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Free to Good Home: Zenith 12H090 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:38:57 -0700 aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggg.... I am in phx!!!!!!!!! bob "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1150719373.128859.142680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > http://radioatticarchives.com/images/z/Zenith_12-H-090_Stanley.jpg > > Similar to this one. Complete excepting the Phono Cartridge. > In the same family since-new (presently held by nephew of original > purchaser). Untested. Displayed in a dining-room for the last 6 years, > before that in the Aunt's living room. > > Pick-up only, it is a beast. ~42" high by 48" wide by 16" deep. Phono > to the left in a slide-out drawer, dial to the right on a tilt-out > panel. > > Cabinet intact and in excellent condition. Photo-finish a bit > alligatored but complete. One screw from the left handle is missing. > All tubes are in place. > > Philadelphia/eastern Montgomery County region. > > Get in touch with me directly if interested. > > pfjw at aol dot com > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 336020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1150765695.303792.41090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AK cellarette (radiobar) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:44:24 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1150765695.303792.41090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > close up of AK advertising lamp. Bet you've never seen one of > these..... > > http://members.aol.com/EB062559/aklamp.jpg I'll bet I have... That's a Ralph Williams repro shade isn't it? I understand Don Patterson is working on a new repro that's more like the original. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Article: 336021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Power Supply For Car Tube Radio References: <1150757698.522454.44980@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:49:16 GMT Actually, it might be under kill. Obviously, you shouldn't need more than 13.2 volts to run most car radios. (6.6 volts for 6 volt radios) But the problem is that 5 amps might not be enough current capacity. Jeff budwilliam@gmail.com wrote: > Hi All, > Would this be overkill or even work for a 1959 ford tube car radio. > It's on the normal auction place. item number 7630755836 > > I could just stick with rechargeing a car battery if overkill. > Thanks, > Bud Williams > Fremont, CA > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150676438.405068.107030@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150716149.355324.32340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150759455.651493.197740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:53:05 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > You don't want to know about hermaphrodite connectors... Three immediately come to mind. The really odd GR connectors used on some the the 50s-60s vintage Tektronics (and General Radio) test equipment. Look like sets of { and } inner and outer fingers. Then there were the very expensive GR-900 RF connectors, and the HP APC-700 style. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:12:28 GMT As I recall I once made a tone arm out of a piece of strip wood. Got the cartridge balanced right, it did the trick. Later I came across a Garrard 301 motor (12") and an Ortofon tonearm whose mounting position allowed for a 16" transcription. It worked great. However as I recall, some of the World Broadcasting pressings had some sort of burn/break mark along one edge; I'm not quite sure what it was -- some sort of injection sprue? Whatever, on some of these records I had to break it off in order for the record to fit. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "David" wrote in message news:_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com... >I do not have one to measure but I am looking at a turntable that might >play them but I need to know if they are exactly 16" dia or run larger or >smaller. > Thanks > Dave > Article: 336024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150757698.522454.44980@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Power Supply For Car Tube Radio Message-ID: <7UJlg.2629$DI2.218@trnddc05> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:51 GMT To be honest, this radio is not all that demanding. It is a hybrid -- yes it has tubes, but there is no vibrator, no power transformer, and the audio is transistorized. I believe it's a 2N176 on that heat sink in the back (if it's a Motorola -- some of them may have been made by Bendix). For output power you're looking at 6 watts max. Even if it's a Town & Country, the DC motor that drives the dial isn't that bad. You should do just fine with one of those 4-5 amp DC power supplies that you see everywhere. Don't try this on a Delco wonderbar however -- these are springloaded and you need some guts to feed those return solenoids. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1150757698.522454.44980@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hi All, > Would this be overkill or even work for a 1959 ford tube car radio. > It's on the normal auction place. item number 7630755836 > > I could just stick with rechargeing a car battery if overkill. > Thanks, > Bud Williams > Fremont, CA > Article: 336025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1150765695.303792.41090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150769471.453005.230940@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AK cellarette (radiobar) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:40:16 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1150769471.453005.230940@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > not everyone is the student of atwater kent that you are. i don't know > ron. it looks original to me. it looks to be in about the same > condition that the rest of the lamp is in. pretty much as new. even > the cord, although frayed at a couple of places, is super clean. this > one has been in storage for over 25 years. did he make reproductions > in the early 80's? > I'm not talking about the lamp itself, just the shade. Ralph Williams made repro shades in the 80's. I've seen an original and while they both have Atwater Kent Radios on them they look a lot different. I've passed on several lamp bases because I knew I would have a hard time getting a shade I liked. Ron Article: 336026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150676438.405068.107030@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150716149.355324.32340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150759455.651493.197740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2nLlg.8277$o4.3789@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:06:06 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: >>And why plugs are called male and female and what the analogy was... > > > You don't want to know about hermaphrodite connectors... > > Oh, you mean those General Radio coax connectors? :-) Article: 336027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: a radio buffet Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:40:36 GMT Eddie, Looks like you have way too many bread boards there ! Which models are they? That's my kind of dining room! Larry Fowkes "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > just a few junkers laying around my dining room table. if this doesn't > get your blood pumping, you ain't a radio collector! > > http://members.aol.com/EB062559/eyecandy.jpg > Article: 336028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:43:42 GMT On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:59:15 GMT, Mark Oppat wrote: > Here is a lowly '37 Zenith black dial, 3 band radio, nothing special > cabinet, only a 6 tuber... sold for $194 on ebay just recently > Here is a REAL Zenith, much rarer, 8 tuber, but 5 bands and has a really > nicely made chassis and really performs... and it didnt even get above > $123???? > > discuss. The seller of the higher-price item offered to ship world-wide, while that of the lower-priced item would only allow local pick-up. Hence, one really has only to explain the attitudes of people within practical pick-up range of that lower-priced item. (Additionally, some people near Wauseon might have been positively mistaken as to its location.) The buyer of the '37 was in Pueblo, CO. The high bidder on the '35 was apparently going to make a round-trip from Bolingbrook, IL. (The locations of the second-highest bidders in each case aren't readily determinable. In fact, I stalled in trying to locate any but the high bidder on the '35.) Further, if you'll check the bid history of the '37, it may be inferred that it had a "reserve" price of $194.99. (that for which is sold), and with no such reserve would perhaps have gone for as little as $157.52. We do not know what the reserve price was on the '35, nor the buyer's maximum bid; conceivably he was willing to pay much more but the seller was even more demanding. Article: 336029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "Hesham Elmokadem" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1150800630.087003.99020@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4vQlg.219727$Fs1.59700@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:56:00 GMT On 20-Jun-2006, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > eBay is an irrational venue anyway. I wish that I'd know that before I did it! Article: 336030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: a radio buffet Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:49:17 GMT Maybe that explains it -- Mama said, "pass the bread box" and there you have it! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:EgQlg.152103$F_3.53807@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > Eddie, > > Looks like you have way too many bread boards there ! Which models are > they? That's my kind of dining room! > > Larry Fowkes > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> just a few junkers laying around my dining room table. if this doesn't >> get your blood pumping, you ain't a radio collector! >> >> http://members.aol.com/EB062559/eyecandy.jpg >> > > Article: 336031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:33:52 -0600 Message-ID: <29606-4497F940-1277@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <4vQlg.219727$Fs1.59700@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Most people i know that like radios dont care how many tubes are in it , some dont care if it works but the ones who do only turn it on once or twice on a local station . They want the radio because of the style and appearance of the cabinet and dial . As collector i appreciate high tube counts but i will go for the one with the attractive case / cabinet first . Article: 336032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <4vQlg.219727$Fs1.59700@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <29606-4497F940-1277@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:33:16 GMT On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:33:52 GMT, Ken G wrote: > Most people i know that like radios dont care how many tubes are in it , > some dont care if it works but the ones who do only turn it on once or > twice on a local station . They want the radio because of the style and > appearance of the cabinet and dial . > > As collector i appreciate high tube counts but i will go for the one > with the attractive case / cabinet first . Given the present and foreseeable quality of broadcasts, it's quite understandable for some people to discount these radios as appliances and treat them as decoration. My own hope is that old radios that are fine electrical devices _or_ good looking will find homes that appreciate them, and that the radios that are _both_ will not be perversely converted. Article: 336033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "mike48151" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:59:02 GMT On 20-Jun-2006, "Phil Nelson" wrote: > Is there really *nothing* to discuss besides eBay auctions? I'm sure that there are many things, and that you can get other such discussions going, Phil. Or you can just complain about this one. > Perhaps one of you would like to create a new forum, > alt.collecting.radio.ebaychat , and move these discussions over there. Perhaps you'd like to get a decent newsreader that will allow you to delete whole threads that bore you, and otherwise to filter content. Article: 336034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tombiasi" Subject: Philco 41-258 Speaker Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:29:29 -0400 I have been trying to locate a replacement speaker for a Philco 41-258. The schematic doesn't state the impedance, is it 8 Ohms? TIA, Tom Article: 336035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 41-258 Speaker Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:43:22 -0400 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > tombiasi wrote: >> I have been trying to locate a replacement speaker for a Philco 41-258. >> The schematic doesn't state the impedance, is it 8 Ohms? >> TIA, >> Tom > The value will be around 3-4 ohms. You can use an 8 ohm speaker without > hurting anything. There will be a slight loss of output, maybe not > enough to notice. Try subbing in a speaker and see what it sounds like. > The trick is finding something that will physically fit the place where > the old one was. Chassis mounted speakers can require some rigging to > secure them. > Thank you for the info. Its a wooden console, the speaker is mounted over an 8 inch hole with 7 inch spacing between four mounting studs. If its designed for 4 Ohms, I can make an 8 inch automotive speaker fit. Tnx, Tom Article: 336036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Message-ID: <9F_lg.39437$1i1.31116@attbi_s72> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:29:25 GMT Hi! > Are the Zenith Zombies that mesmerized by that huge black dial? Or, does > nobody care about performance anymore, even in a console? Why would the second radio need anything but an electronic restoration? The cabinet and grille cloth look *beautiful* to my untrained eye. William Article: 336037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:33:49 GMT Hi! > Is there really *nothing* to discuss besides eBay auctions? I don't know...I don't get to this group too often. But weren't you working on an (RCA) TV recently? Why not tell us about that? I've enjoyed reading your previous posts, and would like to hear more about it. William Article: 336038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150840352.598097.116750@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 41-258 Speaker Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:38:28 -0400 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1150840352.598097.116750@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Tom Biasi wrote: >> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message >> news:1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > tombiasi wrote: >> >> I have been trying to locate a replacement speaker for a Philco >> >> 41-258. >> >> The schematic doesn't state the impedance, is it 8 Ohms? >> >> TIA, >> >> Tom >> > The value will be around 3-4 ohms. You can use an 8 ohm speaker without >> > hurting anything. There will be a slight loss of output, maybe not >> > enough to notice. Try subbing in a speaker and see what it sounds like. >> > The trick is finding something that will physically fit the place where >> > the old one was. Chassis mounted speakers can require some rigging to >> > secure them. >> > >> Thank you for the info. >> Its a wooden console, the speaker is mounted over an 8 inch hole with 7 >> inch >> spacing between four mounting studs. >> If its designed for 4 Ohms, I can make an 8 inch automotive speaker fit. >> Tnx, >> Tom > There is another issue. Does the original speaker use a field coil? If > so, you will need to make a sub for that coil by either using a choke > or a large power resistor of the same resistance value as item #37 on > the schematic. If your speaker uses a permanent magnet, then you have > no problem. A newer speaker will probably sound better. > Thanks, Its a PM speaker. Tom Article: 336039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: In Deepest Darkest Indiana Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:31:34 -0400 Message-ID: <129h1b2hqj9ad41@corp.supernews.com> A land where life is black and white- literally. As Calvin's dad explained, *film* didn't change in the 1930's, it's that *everything* was black and white in the old days. Remember to combine shipping on pickup- http://cgi.ebay.com/1940-Floor-Model-Philco-180XF-Radio-Pickup-Only_W0QQitemZ6638343504 John H. Article: 336040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Where can I buy connectors to fit my 1943 Bang & Olufsen (photo) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:45:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: JeffS > Hi Georg, > > I'm looking for both connectors! > > Here's a better photo (with dimensions) > > http://boulder.net/~4season/bando_connectors.jpg > Jeff, the phono connectors was very common in Europe from the 30s to the 60s. I think all German (European?) collectors have them in their assortment. Please wait for a personal mail. Telefunken will not sell them (as Bob wrote) because THE Telefunken company does not exist anymore. The antenna connector is unknown (for me). I will post your question in the RMorg forum. Kind Regards Georg Article: 336041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <5360-44944827-571@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: I did Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:50:00 GMT Hi! > She pointed at me and she laughed out loud.I slunk away > from her with my tail up my leggs. Huh. Of all the radios I've collected so far (http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/) the only ones that have played "out of the box" were the Zenith ones. Some continue to do so just because I haven't had the time to do any more than make sure they had a new power cord. William Article: 336042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Calling all Philconians Message-ID: <6v0mg.22154$Qg.18644@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:35:14 GMT Trying to find a chassis to fit a madel 60. Was the same chassis used in different models?... like a 37-60? Article: 336043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1150835728.489704.145540@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9D3mg.19686$uy3.3682@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:08:37 GMT Steven wrote: > Angus is great until he starts with the poopy jokes on me OK, how's this for a change then. You're a carbuncle on the ass of humanity. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "j" Subject: What is this strange radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:12:54 GMT A friend bought an antique receiver at a garage sale and we can't find any information about it. The brand name is Taylormade and a nameplate says "receiver license #A7-S" It is in a wooden case with a lid and is slightly larger than a cigar box. It appears to be a shortwave radio receiver from the WWII era. It appears to be a European radio. I cannot find anything about it on the usual searches (Google, Ebay, etc). Can anyone provide me with some information about the device? Article: 336045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "maxhifi" Subject: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 05:59:50 GMT Hi All, I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible resource for something I'm trying to figure out I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R The numbers on the edge of the chassis are 4363 C12R C4365 2 On the back of the cone 2194 2 I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA code 220 in the late 1940s. The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about 8 ohms. Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the speaker which can be derived from the information given?? Thank you in advance for any help Max Article: 336046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "maxhifi" References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Message-ID: <3q5mg.68972$Mn5.60672@pd7tw3no> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:11:11 GMT "David Axt" wrote in message news:129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com... >I bought a pair of speakers at a yard sale and need help identifying them. > > First of all they are Jensen Gold/Brown labels, that's why I bought them. > > The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 > > So I assume that 220 = Jensen > > 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? > probably 66, > 45 = 45th week of the year > Yes > C = Jensen "Concert" series > No, it means Ceramic Magnet (confirm if I'm wrong... is it a ceramic magnet?) > 15 = 15 inch > Yes > PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS > P is the power rating/magnet size, S means special of some sort, does it have a whizzer cone or something? Coaxial? If it was X it would mean extended range > Any help would be appreciated with other numbers if they mean anything. No idea > > The magnets do look rather small so I imagine that they do not handle a > lot of power. Probably not tons, but they are also probably effiicient and don't need a lot to go loud. A photo would really help identify them, or, search eBay completed auctions and look at the Jensens on there > > Thanks, > David > > > Article: 336047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hans" Subject: crosley 5-38 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:27:44 +0200 Message-ID: <4498f4e1$0$32100$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> Hello there, I look for an schematic of an power supply, special for the Crosley 5-38 battery valve (01A) radio, That gives A+, C-, +22.5 volt DC, A- C+, +90volt DC. This on mains 220 volt AC or 120 volt AC. Perhaps an Croley 5-38 owner have made somthing. You do me an great pleasure. In the meantime many thaks. Hans Rademaker. Article: 336048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:27:36 GMT >From an early 40's data sheet, the C12R came either with a 1250 or 2500 ohm field coil, which required 8 watts for excitation. The field coil was 8 ohms, 10 watts max. 50 volts is definitely low. -- Mike Schultz "maxhifi" wrote in message news:qf5mg.70790$IK3.49471@pd7tw1no... > Hi All, > > I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible > resource for something I'm trying to figure out > > I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R > > The numbers on the edge of the chassis are > > 4363 C12R C4365 2 > > On the back of the cone > > 2194 2 > > I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or > perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA > code 220 in the late 1940s. > > The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about 8 > ohms. > > Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and > the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone > with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct > operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the > speaker which can be derived from the information given?? > > Thank you in advance for any help > > Max > > Article: 336049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: <%q7mg.14615$RU4.12403@trnddc03> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:28:43 GMT Ooops, the voice coil is 8 ohms, 10 watts max. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:Yp7mg.14614$RU4.13654@trnddc03... > From an early 40's data sheet, the C12R came either with a 1250 or 2500 > ohm field coil, which required 8 watts for excitation. The field coil was > 8 ohms, 10 watts max. > > 50 volts is definitely low. > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > "maxhifi" wrote in message > news:qf5mg.70790$IK3.49471@pd7tw1no... >> Hi All, >> >> I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible >> resource for something I'm trying to figure out >> >> I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R >> >> The numbers on the edge of the chassis are >> >> 4363 C12R C4365 2 >> >> On the back of the cone >> >> 2194 2 >> >> I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or >> perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA >> code 220 in the late 1940s. >> >> The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about >> 8 ohms. >> >> Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and >> the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone >> with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct >> operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the >> speaker which can be derived from the information given?? >> >> Thank you in advance for any help >> >> Max >> >> > > Article: 336050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:11:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: n cook wrote in message news:e76hco$g4b$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > Clive wrote in message > news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > > > "n cook" wrote in message > > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram > ,1951 > > > or so. > > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically > > but > > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > > > > > -- > > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to home' > > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without > any > > resistance ?) > > > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen from > > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty straight > > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be > freed > > up with a liberal application of WD40. > > > > file://Clive. > > > > > > > > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the > spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www pic > http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg > that is normal. > Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end stop > for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the wrong > side of the linkages from the main mechanism. > Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm pivot > I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. > There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely > engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks the > switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, disconnected > from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving to > lift point. > I'll have another explore tomorrow. > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > electronic hints and repair briefs > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > I'm defeated by this mechanism. One turn of the main cog wheel is the operation cycle time to complete record drop , arm lift/drop etc before coming back to the toothless section of the cog for all mechanical levers disengaged and motor-on for play. Just before the toothless section the large cam pushes a set of levers to switch off the motor and no obvious extra latch or anything to disengage that action for each turn of the large cam, so it turns off the motor before going into disengaged play mode every time, presumably the same action as manual reject on the on/off lever. Article: 336051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <1150858419.163978.253940@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Message-ID: <45cmg.7024$Za5.1965@trnddc04> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:46:40 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1150858419.163978.253940@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >I don't get it. What's that got to do with the original question? > Okay, translation: The World Broadcasting pressings were 16" diameter, except for some sort of sprue mark that protruded outward, in which case it was a bit bigger. If you chop the sprue mark off, it will fit within an 8" clearance from the spindle to the tone arm. If you don't happen to have a turntable/tone arm that will allow for this clearance, some of us have indeed made tone arms out of stripwood for the purpose. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:45:11 -0600 Message-ID: <17207-44994D67-34@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: Phil Its hopeless . This newsgroup has had that back alley air for a long time now with some people who dont care about anything . Most of the people who have common courtesy and manners have left . Nothing you or i say will ever help , in fact someone will probably mock this post to .. sad i know .I do find this NG entertaining like a comedy show . Some of it is still ok and helpfull , not all is lost :-) Best go to another forum of some sort for all radio chat and take this one for what it has become . Article: 336053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: In Deepest Darkest Indiana Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:58:11 -0500 Message-ID: <377-44995073-2@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <129h1b2hqj9ad41@corp.supernews.com> I lived in Martinsville,Indiana in 1947.I went back to Indiana again (Bloomington,Indiana) in 1974 to check out an old car a guy had for sale.Turned out the car wasen't worth the money he was asking for the car so I didn't buy the car.On the back home to Deepest Darkest Mississippi,I stopped off at a place in Indiana which had a lot of old things for sale.I bought some wooden spoke car wheels and a master ignition switch that is mounted on a wooden box which holds four Ford T model spark coils.The unit I bought is suppose to take the place/substitute for the original ignition switch and spark coils of Ford T model cars.I still have all of those old things here and many,many more which I bought over the years. cuhulin Article: 336054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4499666D.5020906@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Original Heathkit frequency counter manuals Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:30:13 GMT The following are original Heathkit Operation/Service factory manuals, not copies. They include schematics and PCB X-ray views. Very good condition. Prices include postage to a US address. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net =========================================================== Heathkit SM-118A Autoranging Frequency Counter manual 595-1525-01, 13 pgs, factory manual, no assembly instructions. Includes schematic. Very good. $6. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-118A-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-118A-2.jpg Heathkit SM-128A Autoranging Frequency Counter manual 595-1556, 14 pgs, factory manual, no assembly instructions. Includes schematic. Very good. $6. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-128A-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-128A-2.jpg Both for $10 post-paid. =========================================================== Article: 336055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44996761.1020808@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Old "73" ham radio magazine, misc issues '77 -'84 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:34:17 GMT FS: "73" issues below. All in good condition. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net =========================================================== September, 1977 http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-0977.jpg September, 1980 http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-0980.jpg September, 1982, http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-0982.jpg November, 1984, http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-1184.jpg $5 each post-paid to a US address. $15 for all four. =========================================================== Article: 336056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44996839.8000304@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Original old Lafayette Radio Electronics catalogs; 1965, 1966 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:37:53 GMT For sale: Four original old Lafayette Radio Electronics catalogs in very good condition. All include original attached order blank and return envelope. =========================================================== Lafayette Radio Electronics Holiday gift catalog # 661, 1965. Very good condition. 108 pgs. 6 1/2 x 9 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-661.jpg $7, includes postage. Lafayette Radio Electronics Winter catalog # 662, 1965. Very good condition. 108 pgs. 6 1/2 x 9 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-662.jpg $7, includes postage. Lafayette Radio Electronics Summer 1966 catalog # 664, 1966. Very good condition. 110 pgs. 6 1/2 x 9 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-664.jpg $7, includes postage. Lafayette Radio Electronics 50th Golden Jubilee catalog # 710, 1971. Very good condition. 468 pgs. 6 1/4 x 8 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-710.jpg $12, includes postage. =========================================================== All four for $30. Prices include postage to a US address. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net Article: 336058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4499699F.7010000@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Old National Radio Institute (NRI) publications Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:43:51 GMT For sale: Four original old National Radio Institute (NRI) publications in good condition. Prices include postage to a US address. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net =========================================================== (1924 NRI) "Lesson 1 of a Complete Course in Radio Telegraphy and Telephony", Tenth Edition, Copyright by National Radio Institute, Inc, Washington, D.C., 6x9, 64 pgs, softcover, covered with cardboard and brown paper by original owner, perfect inside. Contains some great photographs. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Lesson1-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Lesson1-2.jpg $7 post-paid. $10 post-paid for both this and Lesson 2, below. (1924 NRI) "Lesson 2 of a Complete Course in Radio Telegraphy and Telephony" --'Electrical Units and Circuits, The Electric Current, Switches, Insulators, Conductors and Circuit Breakers', Tenth Edition, Copyright by National Radio Institute, Inc, Washington, D.C., 6x9, 59 pgs, softcover, covered with cardboard and brown paper by original owner, perfect inside. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Lesson2-1.jpg $7 post-paid. $10 post-paid for both this and Lesson 1, above. NRI Radio-Television-Electronics Dictionary, IX-3, 1951. Excellent condition. 96 pgs. 5 3/4 x 8 1/2. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Dictionary.jpg $7 post-paid. NRI "Instructions for Operating the NRI Professional Signal Tracer". Undated. Includes schematic. Very good condition. 14 pgs. 8 1/2 x 11. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Model33-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Model33-2.jpg $7 post-paid. =========================================================== $20 post-paid for all four. Article: 336059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Montana Radio Stations Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44996864-44@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150842079.019674.236850@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I lived in Bozeman,Montana from June untill a week or two before Christmas 1956.I dont remember much about the Radio stations in Montana though.At that time,my dad (www.mbakercorp.com home based here in Mississippi) owned a blue Ford door Ford station wagon,the car had a good radio.The Michael Baker company car which also went to Montana with us was a 1956 Ford car,I dont remember if it had a radio in it or not.He was a construction supervisor,microwave tower and equipment building on top of a mountain not far East of Bozeman. cuhulin Article: 336060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Free To Good Home - Added Inducement - Zenith 12H090 From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1150899637.634189.307090@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150901861.160905.156570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:57:27 GMT I have sent a note (with a link) to a friend in Camden. This unit is not to my own tastes, but I'd love to see it placed with someone who would care for it. Article: 336061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:00:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: n cook wrote in message news:e7b9fo$1ev$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > n cook wrote in message > news:e76hco$g4b$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > Clive wrote in message > > news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > > > > > "n cook" wrote in message > > > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram > > ,1951 > > > > or so. > > > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move > vertically > > > but > > > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > > > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to > home' > > > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without > > any > > > resistance ?) > > > > > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen > from > > > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty > straight > > > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be > > freed > > > up with a liberal application of WD40. > > > > > > file://Clive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the > > spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www pic > > http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg > > that is normal. > > Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end > stop > > for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the > wrong > > side of the linkages from the main mechanism. > > Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm pivot > > I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. > > There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely > > engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks the > > switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, disconnected > > from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving to > > lift point. > > I'll have another explore tomorrow. > > > > -- > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > I'm defeated by this mechanism. > One turn of the main cog wheel is the operation cycle time to complete > record drop , arm lift/drop etc before coming back to the toothless section > of the cog for all mechanical levers disengaged and motor-on for play. > Just before the toothless section the large cam pushes a set of levers to > switch off the motor and no obvious extra latch or anything to disengage > that action for each turn of the large cam, so it turns off the motor before > going into disengaged play mode every time, presumably the same action as > manual reject on the on/off lever. > > It would have helped if I'd seen one of these decks in operation but I think I've cracked it. Reject does not mean reject from play followed by motor stop , it just means reject from play. You cancel the motor by manually switching to off or what I assume is the proper trip mechanism . If the tone-arm goes in too far and the normal lift mechanism fails to operate then the trip is de-latched to switch off the motor - ie not normal operation. The cam position just prior to the cog teeth gap is for setting this position , just less than trip , not for tripping the motor off. It all seems to be running properly now, but not checked with records yet. Anyone familiar with the anti-skating ? mechanism, I don't want it to be too resistant to movement and break the original stylus. Cartridge and stylus removed during all this exploration. I'm thinking of removing the stylus and pivot from the magnetic coil and lightly gluing some bulk-standard LP sapphire stylus underneath on first checks with records, any better ideas ?. For the archives, I think I'll take photos of this mechanism and also take a scanner scan of the radio tuning glass. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:36:32 -0400 "maxhifi" wrote in message news:qf5mg.70790$IK3.49471@pd7tw1no... > Hi All, > > I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible > resource for something I'm trying to figure out > > I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R > > The numbers on the edge of the chassis are > > 4363 C12R C4365 2 > > On the back of the cone > > 2194 2 > > I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or > perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA > code 220 in the late 1940s. > > The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about 8 > ohms. > > Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and > the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone > with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct > operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the > speaker which can be derived from the information given?? > > Thank you in advance for any help > > Max > 50 Volts seems right as it gives a little over 50ma at the close to 1K DCR. Syl From adouglasatgis.net Thu Jun 22 21:14:32 EDT 2006 Article: 336063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:37:12 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> <3q5mg.68972$Mn5.60672@pd7tw3no> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-829.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336063 Hi, >> The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 >> So I assume that 220 = Jensen Yes. >> 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? >> >probably 66, I would think 56. 1966 would probably have used both digits to avoid confusion with older codes. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Thu Jun 22 21:14:33 EDT 2006 Article: 336064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:48:52 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <%q7mg.14615$RU4.12403@trnddc03> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-270.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336064 Hi, 916 ohms cold could have been the same coil as 1250 ohms hot. My oldest RMA list is July 1946 and goes up to 477. The original list was alphabetical from Admiral (101) to Zenith (343) and all the higher numbers were randomly assigned. So I presume the original list must have predated 1946. Alan Article: 336065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <1150900486.990534.58190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:09:34 GMT My first car was a 54 Plymouth, not unlike this car. I'd love to get it back -- but -- I'll keep the T-Bird. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1150900486.990534.58190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: >>- photo of my TT is on my web page >> (www.wbnoble.com) > > I love the Dodge Coronet. And it's in my colour, too!!!! > > Someday...... *sigh* > > Why do you blank out the licenceplates, by the way. It's not like > they're not in plain view when you're trundling that hunk of iron on > the street anyway. :) > > -- > steph > Article: 336066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:02:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:58:30 GMT, robert casey wrote: >IIRC, some of these records start from the inside and play towards the >outside, also some used up-and-down instead of side-to-side groove >undulations. Correct on both counts. Together, called the Western Electric system. They also used a stylus with a different diameter spherical tip. From adouglasatgis.net Thu Jun 22 21:14:33 EDT 2006 Article: 336067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: crosley 5-38 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:03:08 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <9bui929ivgted4n365hsggd236oq5b3a92@4ax.com> References: <4498f4e1$0$32100$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-403.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336067 Hi, Hans wrote: >I look for an schematic of an power supply, special >for the Crosley 5-38 battery valve (01A) radio, >That gives A+, C-, +22.5 volt DC, A- C+, +90volt DC. > >This on mains 220 volt AC or 120 volt AC. There was a brief discussion on the Antique Radio Forum a few weeks ago, with some suggestions of sources for a supply like this. http://antiqueradios.com/forums/ I don't remember which forum it was on, but you could either search there are post a request of your own. Many of these supplies use a 120/240 transformer with the second primary used as a secondary, so they would not be suitable for 230V mains. The 22.5V is not at all critical: anything up to 45V will work equally well. And if your B+ is limited to 90V you don't really need C bias at all. C bias mainly reduces the B+ current drain, which is a problem with dry batteries but not a problem with an AC supply. A 1.5V cell would work however if you want to use it. Alan Article: 336068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:06:22 -0700 Message-ID: <92vi92t6k2a904n1e4n7oq5lqek2v33040@4ax.com> References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> <3q5mg.68972$Mn5.60672@pd7tw3no> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:11:11 GMT, "maxhifi" wrote: >No, it means Ceramic Magnet (confirm if I'm wrong... is it a ceramic >magnet?) Correct. "C" = ceramic cheapies, "P" = AlNiCo >> PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS Special, probably an OEM job. Article: 336069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: RCA MX7 Tube Receiver Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:19:11 -0700 Message-ID: <2bvi925ic1cgj139qqo4m68liivsokv19j@4ax.com> References: <1150891578.223779.68220@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> On 21 Jun 2006 05:06:18 -0700, "phil" wrote: >Hello all! I received a RCA mx7 tube receiver that was about to thrown >in the trash. Good place for it. > It seems to be in pretty good shape overall. Any info you >could tell me about this unit. Parts availibilty? What parts do you mean? Model-exclusive parts are long since gone, but discrete components for most tube stuff can be had easily. > Is it worth anything? A buck or two on fraudBay. Article: 336070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:30:39 -0500 Message-ID: <21484-4499AC6F-73@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Here is a power supply for a 6 volt radio that will run up to 6 '01A's. Buy a 5 volt, 3 amp computer power supply, one of the "brute force" types with a transformer. Get one of the type having a 110/220 volt primary. These are realily available both new and used on ebay. Prices range from $5.00 to $15.00. Adjust the 5 volts to 5.5 or 6.0 volts, tubes will last longer if the filaments are run slightly below ratings. Cut one half on the 220 primary loose and rectify and filter it. (47uF, 47uF and a 2000 ohm 1/2 Watt resistor) run the voltage to a string of 25 volt zeners each paralleled with a 22K or 27K resistor. This will give you 25, 50, 75,100 and 125 volts each terminated in a terminal strip. I happen to have 24 volt zeners by the box full and they work just as well. A bias supply can be made by moving the ground up the string one zener (making 100 volts max. on the B+) put a potentiometer in place of the fixed resistor and you will have 0-25 volts bias. This supply will easily run any radio i have seen. The elimination of the primary cuts the current available from the power supply to 1.5 amps which will still run 6 '01As. Please