Article: 336179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:20:07 -0600 Message-ID: <457-449E0EF7-6@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: I have to agree Mark . I had NPR on most of the day . We have the Idaho show which brings out some pretty darn good folk and blues and maybe some od stuff thats neet to hear . I listen to Prarie home companion alot . At yard sales today i found a technics probably 80`s turntable with a good mag & needle 3$ . Then in another town i found a real neet antique oak mirror affair that used to go on top of a dry sink . I am going to fix it up and put it in the bathroom i remodeled on the marble vanity cabinet . I was waiting for a mirror piece like this . At the same sale i picked up a very small ( half the size of normal ) very old wood , painted , aged bathroom medicine wall cabinet ... it is clear full of real old bathroom products such as a hand razor , bars of soap never opened , tooth paste and shampoo in lead tubes , glass bottles or pills along with other stuff . very cool to put up on the wall in the bathroom for display . It was about 85* today light wind . I did get an old Atwater 42 mouse box cleaned up today too ... it had to get the garden hose treatment due to mouse crap . Both transformers test good and the wrinkle paint on the metal box looks about an 8+ Your right .. perfect day . Article: 336181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:55:34 -0400 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken :-: Ghost Chip :-: wrote: > What is an "Ocean Crossing" type? > I wonder which ocean. > The ocean of time! > GC > > Article: 336182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mikestraton@webtv.net Subject: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:12:33 -0700 Message-ID: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> this is probably an annoying question for all you electronic gurus, but i'm going to ask it anyway. my record player is broken, and nobody sells them anymore. 'restoration hardware' in the L.A. area did sell a reasonably good suitcase style one about 3 years ago ( yes, it was really pretty good) but i procrastinated and didn't get it and now it's discontinued. i did buy one from the c. crane catalog but the 'high fidelity' speakers are NOT - more like speakers from transistor radios. i do NOT want a separate turntable / component system, i want an all-in-one good old fashioned record player with the speakers included. i prefer a reputable retailer or onine source, not a private party. but if there is anybody local in the L.A. area that has a GOOD record player for sale i would be interested in taking a look at it. an old style large console model would be ok. thanks, mike in L.A. Article: 336183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:38:51 GMT While you were having a perfect day, I was in the garage trying to clean up, and get the trash out. Having been remodeling the house, there's plenty of it, and it was sunny and hot while I was busy bundling up old carpeting and tacking. Since the trash people broke the trash can last week, I decided to go to Home Depot to buy another one. On the way there the car overheated. So I let it cool down, took it to a garage a couple blocks away, and called my parents nearby to take me home. So now I'm driving the T-Bird -- cool car but no air conditioning. Last night I took the T-Bird to a car cruise. That was enjoyable, but still hot and humid. Then again, I talked to people who had been in Texas, Tennessee, and a few other places, and they came back to Florida to cool off! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:lJudnc_rnqM2PQDZnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >I just stopped in the house, I've been out in the garage reassembling a > 1960 era OPTA German console... man, its just the most perfect weather > here > today. Sunny, 74 or so. Light breeze. Nice in the shade, which my back > yard is. wow. > > Best of all, I dont have to spend all day inside a convention hall > setting > up a show or bake in the sun setting up or running an outdoor > event....like > I did all thru my 20's and 30's. I can just enjoy the day. > > Might put up some new shelving on the second floor of my carraige barn... > gotta lot of storing/ organizing to do. > Got the Routes Music show on (syndicated) with Nick Spitzer, playing > American Roots type music... its on many NPR public radio stations. Great > stuff. Prarie Home Companion comes on at 6pm. Life is good, today (as > long as I dont think about the tragedy and harm we are doing to others in > the world). > > back to work... > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 336184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: COPPER SCREEN Source??? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:47:07 -0400 Anyone know a source for copper screen, same mesh as porch screen? Ken Article: 336185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:03:28 GMT wrote in message news:11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net... > this is probably an annoying question for all you electronic gurus, but > i'm going to ask it anyway. my record player is broken, and nobody sells > them anymore. 'restoration hardware' in the L.A. area did sell a > reasonably good suitcase style one about 3 years ago ( yes, it was > really pretty good) but i procrastinated and didn't get it and now it's > discontinued. i did buy one from the c. crane catalog but the 'high > fidelity' speakers are NOT - more like speakers from transistor radios. > i do NOT want a separate turntable / component system, i want an > all-in-one good old fashioned record player with the speakers included. > i prefer a reputable retailer or onine source, not a private party. but > if there is anybody local in the L.A. area that has a GOOD record player > for sale i would be interested in taking a look at it. an old style > large console model would be ok. thanks, mike in L.A. > Take a look at the Vestax Handy-Trax: http://vestax.com/v/products/active/active.html Does that meet your needs? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 336186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? Message-ID: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:15:43 GMT I've seen it at large craft shops, like Michael's, up to 8 1/2 x 11. "Ken" wrote in message news:jBvng.10025$f76.6482@dukeread06... > Anyone know a source for copper screen, same mesh as porch screen? Ken > Article: 336187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:18:59 GMT Ken wrote in message news:JYtng.10022$f76.5633@dukeread06... > 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken Who the heck is "ATWOOD"???? Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <449e8e6d$0$31646$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes References: <22632-449B37D8-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1151151315.626096.319540@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151194747.315297.233180@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <449e6391$0$31642$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: 25 Jun 2006 13:23:57 GMT Steven wrote: > I'd be spouting crap about people being child molesters and lots of > links, conspiracy and crap like the alt.kooks do. It is the relative amount of crap, not the subject, that matters. But I have fed enough trolls for today, so i'll shut my mouth already. On-topic content: Anyone know who currently owns the Berlin tube plant that was bought by Samsung after the wende? Samsung supposedly disposed of all the old macfhines and company history, to make an efficient production line for picture tubes. More recently I think I saw a Panasonic picture tube from the series that was manufactured there. I'm wondering how things are, and if there is any chance they will survive or be resurrected as a tube plant after the CRT concept is dumped in favour of Far-East manufactured TFT panels. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 336189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? References: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:38:20 -0400 Thanks, I'll try them. Ken Robert Murrell wrote: > I've seen it at large craft shops, like Michael's, up to 8 1/2 x 11. > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:jBvng.10025$f76.6482@dukeread06... > >>Anyone know a source for copper screen, same mesh as porch screen? Ken >> > > > Article: 336190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:41:21 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:OdidnVCUNqxMBwPZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > (If someone would make > a direct-replacement plastic-cone speaker, the Model 11 could reach true > hi-fi quality, but that's another story.) Could you explain what you mean by "plastic-cone speaker to reach true hi-fi quality" ? Syl Article: 336191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:32:43 -0700 Message-ID: <27634-449E9E8B-475@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: Well, on the subject of perfect days, last Tuesday and Wednesday were definitely 10-plus weather-wise here in the Bay area. Temps in the 70s and 80s, low wind, and perfect for flying RC model planes. My humble little webbie here signs off with the caption "End of a perfect flying day". See- http://commmunity-2.webtv.net/oldcoot/TurboTipsyand/ And then comes the reciprochal, those socked-in, cold, foggy days by which Mark Twain defined SF summers. :-) But all told, the best year-round climate imaginable. Bill(oc) Article: 336192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Kitchen vacuum tubes Message-ID: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:14:05 GMT This guy is making his own tubes in his kitchen! PP http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm Article: 336193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:28:14 -0600 Message-ID: <1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: You can get those older Calphone record players off ebay or someone else for aroud 20 to 50$ . I see them in thrift stores here for 25$ . They are not stereo but sound good . Article: 336194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:25:18 -0700 Message-ID: <27634-449EAADE-485@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <27634-449E9E8B-475@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Akk! Try again- http://community-2.webtv.net/oldcoot/TurboTipsyand/ Article: 336195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:53:33 -0400 Message-ID: <129tcc5i4edqr65@corp.supernews.com> References: After two months of rain every other day at least, Vermont has suddenly become glorious as well. Until tomorrow anyway it is glorious. I am getting back to finishing up my Standard Model A 100 year old phono and Scott Phantom now that I've finished creating a rosebed and planting it and everything else. Plus I added a performance computer and hi flow exhaust to the Dodge 6000 turbo ragtop and have the 0-60 down to 9 seconds! I haven't found much radiowise at the fleas here as the marlet has been depressed by so much rain. But it's fun going each week. John H. Article: 336196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:49:45 -0600 Message-ID: <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Gary the only way to get a fair deal on that model Zenith is to find one at some yard sale or junk store cheap . I want one too but wont pay thousands just dont need it that bad. I dont want to resell it either . That kind of money goes to food and dentists . I got a Philco 16B not to long ago minus all the tubes . The chassis looked almost like new so i filled with tubes and plugged it in & fired it up . It was probably serviced in the 50`s because the vintage replaced filters are still good All the cap blocks are original still too . Boy i tell you that thing really sounds good with that 10`` speaker . Its the big pointed top tombstone . I think those are a bit ? dopey looking with such a tiny tiny dial but its a great radio that is not on my ``sell`` list . Article: 336197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? References: <1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:03:10 -0400 Ken G. wrote: > You can get those older Calphone record players off ebay or someone > else for aroud 20 to 50$ . I see them in thrift stores here for 25$ . > They are not stereo but sound good . here are a few ebay links. The last one is stereo. > http://cgi.ebay.com/CALIFONE-1430K-VINTAGE-PORTABLE-TURNTABLE-RECORD-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ9744323737QQihZ008QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Califone-1430-KM-Turntable-Record-Player-Portable_W0QQitemZ9744331085QQihZ008QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/CALIFONE-1450C-RECORD-PLAYER-78-45-33-16-turntable_W0QQitemZ9744501188QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3283QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Califone-1420K-Solid-State-Phonegraph_W0QQitemZ6639399813QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1442QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Califone-1130C-STEREO-Turntable-4-speed-2-speakers_W0QQitemZ110000305994QQihZ001QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 336198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:58:49 -0600 Message-ID: <1526-449EB2B9-818@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Here Fedex IS USPS .. the boxes and both services are in the same building . If someone sends me something UPS and it comes damaged i simply throw it away and ignore it because nothing can be done as UPS just shouts ``poor packing `` and tells you where to put it . We have been through this over 100 times at work even though the product was in its original box and packing . Article: 336199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:58:48 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB2B8-708@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151213529.789792.256960@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Computer drivers.Although I haven't used it yet,you might be interested in checking out, www.driveragent.com Disclaimer,I don't know enough about computers to really know what I am thinking about. It is a luverly day here in the auld deep South.I hope y'all are having a nice weekend. cuhulin,the South Article: 336200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:01:29 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB359-710@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I bet there are a lot of people from Phoenix in Florida,,, cooling off. cuhulin Article: 336201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:06:17 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB479-712@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <27634-449EAADE-485@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Nice Airfield there,Oldcoot. cuhulin Article: 336202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:11:50 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB5C6-715@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <449EAFB0.A20867E5@earthlink.net> Ocala is famous for Horses too.My half acre of land in North Florida (Interlachen,Putnam County,seven miles West of Palatka) isn't far from Ocala. cuhulin Article: 336203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB82C-718@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: How much is an old Bogalusa wind up Phonograph worth anyway? What do I care anyway? It is a keeper.Money,I would shove that money in my bank account and then I wouldn't have a pot to wee wee in.I prefer to hang on to my old Bogalusa. By the way,a gal in my class at Forest Hill school,she was from Bogalusa,Louisiana.Her dad owned a used car lot here in Jackson,Mississippi.She used to drive a 1955 Buick car and she owned a Pekinese dog.That little dog hated my guts.That was back in the 1950's. cuhulin,the South Article: 336204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EBA1E-721@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1526-449EB2B9-818@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> I sent something via UPS not too long ago to another State.About 92 pounds it weighed,after I got done with packing it up in a U-Haul tv/microwave box.I had two pieces of plywood in there plus a lot of cardboard and two pillows I had bought at the Goodwill store to protect certain areas of the item.I am not the best at packing up things for shipment.(y'all ought to see my Christmas wrapping) But it got there in fine fettle. cuhulin Article: 336205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:50:40 -0500 Message-ID: <129tfmvbnt4g1f1@corp.supernews.com> References: <1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Califone and Newcomb "school" phonos turn up all the time at thrift stores, flea markets, and swap meets. I've picked up a mint Califone for $15 and a stereo Newcomb for $30 within the past few weeks at flea markets. Have also given a few "well used" ones away to make room. New needles can still be found for $5-$10 from various online sources. Surely one of those big LA swap meets must have one tucked away somewhere... I believe Califone is still in business and sells them new for $200 or so, or at least they did up until a year or two ago. Steve P. "Ken G." wrote in message news:1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > You can get those older Calphone record players off ebay or someone > else for aroud 20 to 50$ . I see them in thrift stores here for 25$ . > They are not stereo but sound good . > Article: 336206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:42:22 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EBCEE-648@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> ANYBODY HERE WHO CAN TRANSLATE POLISH ? CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EBD03-649@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> ANYBODY HERE WHO CAN TRANSLATE POLISH ? CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:56:52 -0500 Message-ID: <129tg2j22ptetb5@corp.supernews.com> References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> I've been using Califone and Newcomb phonos to play 78s for years and never been disappointed. They're the best phonos going when you can find them for 10 to 20 bucks. "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:R4OdnYCtBP41IwPZnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > I hope your suggestion is some sort of sick joke. Who in their right mind > would buy a piece of garbage like this -- and mono, yet -- to play their > records? Article: 336209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:01:57 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:noudnbggeZKeJAPZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> If someone would make a direct-replacement plastic-cone >>> speaker, the Model 11 could reach true hi-fi quality... > >> Could you explain what you mean by "plastic-cone speaker >> to reach true hi-fi quality"? > > Exactly what I said. The 11 used paper cones. A properly designed > plastic-coned driver would have significantly better sound quality. I'm sorry to tell you this William, but the cone material (in your case most probably polypropylene) has nothing to do with the frequency response (it's a misconception to think paper cones can not offer as wide a frequency response as "poly*" cones, what you call plastic). The speaker "mechanics" has more to do in the frequency response then the cone itself. The surround, spider, magnet, voice coil etc...all addup to create a specific speaker response/transient/damping... If you want great sounding speakers using paper cones, find a Grundig radio. The mid range in a Grundig 2028 for instance, installed in a small enclosure gives splendid sound going well into the tens of Khz. They are about 4" in diameter. You won't believe your ears. You will also discover why some buyers are ready to spend big bucks on large 10 * 7" Grundig speakers, actually twice the value of the radio itself ! I don't know that particular KLH model (I'm not a fan of KLH anyway), but I'd like to know what you mean by "no one makes a replacement that matches the 11 mechanically and electrically". I would guess by "mechanically" you mean the dimension and shape ? As for "electrically" I would venture a guess; it has a weird impedance like some philips transformerless tube radio ? Syl Article: 336210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:11:19 GMT Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? Article: 336211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:11:40 GMT Surprisingly, after some 25 years of CD's, there are a LOT of record players still around, and many new turntables are better quality than the ones made during the "golden age." You can go a few different routes: 1. You can buy a new turntable. Most newer/better ones are of the "pro" type, so the best places to look are either at music stores (Sam Ash for example) or on eBay under musical instruments. No, they aren't self-contained complete players, but they do have the advantages of being good quality equipment, and many have direct digital connections for recording directly onto a computer for digitizing. You'll also find many of these that play 78's -- although you'll need to seek out a good cartridge/needle for the purpose. They also are available new, and good quality -- not real common, but they're out there. 2. You can buy a good used turntable or record player. You can find turntables in places such as Goodwill or other thrift or pawn shops, and also record stores, particuarly those who sell used records. Of course you're taking your chances with one that works, but you have a better chance at the record stores, mainly because the owners often clean and check them out before putting them on the shelf. Again, when it comes to a complete player vs. components, you'll find consoles all day long at the thrift stores. Although they are getting old, and in many cases are nice pieces of furniture, console stereos have hardly any collector value and don't sell for much -- so if you have a place for it, you should be able to find a nice one cheap. One strong recommendation if you buy a used turntable -- buy a new needle. Who knows how old that original needle is, and replacements are generally easy to find. Garage-A-Records is one great source. Personally whenever I've brought home a used turntable I've replaced the cartridge. Now, as others have said, some basic players, such as Califon, are still around and can be purchased new. These are designed for classroom/industrial use and are rugged, although the gray cabinet may not go well with your living room decor. On the other hand, you can find Crosley or similar repro players in department stores -- they look interesting but are pure crap in terms of quality. That about runs the gamut. Good luck in your search! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net... > this is probably an annoying question for all you electronic gurus, but > i'm going to ask it anyway. my record player is broken, and nobody sells > them anymore. 'restoration hardware' in the L.A. area did sell a > reasonably good suitcase style one about 3 years ago ( yes, it was > really pretty good) but i procrastinated and didn't get it and now it's > discontinued. i did buy one from the c. crane catalog but the 'high > fidelity' speakers are NOT - more like speakers from transistor radios. > i do NOT want a separate turntable / component system, i want an > all-in-one good old fashioned record player with the speakers included. > i prefer a reputable retailer or onine source, not a private party. but > if there is anybody local in the L.A. area that has a GOOD record player > for sale i would be interested in taking a look at it. an old style > large console model would be ok. thanks, mike in L.A. > Article: 336212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: BC-348 paper - giveaway. From: noone@telus.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:12:22 GMT Maybe the wrong group, but anyway I just ran across about 2lbs. of BC-348 paper. There's one original booklet "Preliminary Instructions for Radio Receiver BC-348-O" (1942?) in rough shape, but quite readable. The rest of the sheets are mostly photocopies and include pertinent pages from the "Surplus Radio Conversion Manual" dated 1948. Sold the radio way back, so these are headed for the trash next week if nobody wants them. Pay for mailing is all (probably cost more than they're worth?) but if anything interests you I can break it down and ship via lettermail. If you're going to be in Calgary for the Stampede, you're welcome to pick it up. Haggis. Article: 336213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <10363-449AFD5A-63@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1151077103.192087.257730@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:23:51 GMT There is an interesting point on that page, the notion that any large LP record can be confused with a 78. It appears in the generation that has passed, a lot of people, even older ones, have totally forgotten the concept of records altogether. When DJ'ing at car shows when I've pulled out a 78 to play, people have asked questions like, "which ones came out first? The LP was first and 78's came later, right?" Of course a majority of people now consider all records to be scratchy old crap, and nothing will sound very good unless it's on a CD or hard drive. Of course the cars themselves aren't historic or old, just "cool". Ahhh, the power of marketing! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:j6KdnWA6HoIACwPZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@bright.net... > Peter Wieck wrote: > >> Gary Tayman wrote: >> >>>I can tell you this -- long after electric phonographs became popular in >>>living rooms, wind-up acoustics were still being made as portables. The >>>simple reason is that they didn't require batteries or AC power. Just >>>when >>>they stopped making them I don't know, but didn't Lionel or somebody make >>>a >>>wind-up kiddy phonograph into the 50's? >>> >> >> >> Wind-ups were made (and are still being made today) overseas for many >> years after they faded here in the US. Initially under license from >> Victor (RCA) (and others), recently as Crap-O-Phone knock-offs. It >> would not surprise me at all during/before Rural Electrification >> penetrated into the distant upper-mid-west and swamplands of the south >> that a niche-market for them did not continue well into the 50s in this >> country. Within my own lifetime, I remember 78s being available 'new' >> at record stores, and I was born in 1952. Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> > > http://www.cool78s.com/faq.html Article: 336214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:24:54 -0700 Message-ID: <12128-449EC6E6-42@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <22891-449EB479-712@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> >From: cuhulin@webtv.net > >Nice Airfield there,Oldcoot Thanks dude. It's greart fun playing "fighter planes" with the crows, too. But never badger the seagulls as they're much more serene, benign critters on the wing. :-) Out at Ocean Beach (the same stretch of beach depicted in the old apocalyptic movie "On The Beach", there's now a bulldozed-up ridge line that gives great slope lift when the wind is off the ocean, out of the West. The planes love soaring in that lift. With electrics, you can shut the motor off completely and air start whenever needed. From the Weather Service wind chart, it looks perfect there now, so am heading out there for the day. Yes, life is good. Bill(oc) Article: 336215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: <3ckt92t622sm4133hfapuar0es7kijab9k@4ax.com> References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:13:52 GMT On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:18:59 GMT, " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote: > >Ken wrote in message >news:JYtng.10022$f76.5633@dukeread06... >> 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken > >Who the heck is "ATWOOD"???? > >Ron The Atwood Kent that was referred to in the body of the ebay listing. "This is a wonderful old antique tube radio in very nice condition. Made by ATWOOD KENT. RECEIVING SET MODEL 30 PHILA. PA SERIAL NUMBER 539737 I believe it is portable type of radio and people listened to it as they crossed the ocean in a ship. It plugs in but also can use a battery of some type." Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:26:36 -0400 Message-ID: <129tlb52en2sf7d@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tcc5i4edqr65@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:129tcc5i4edqr65@corp.supernews.com... > the Dodge 6000 turbo ragtop Oops- 600 that is.... John H. Article: 336217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:17:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <457-449E0EF7-6@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:18:02 GMT, yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) wrote: >My perfect day in Moscow Pa. was playing tennis for about 2 hours,then going >to my VFW for a couple of cold 7&7`s.Went home and had a couple of Hot Dogs >with lots of mustard,took a cool shower and then went to Scranton to see Kathy >Griffin on stage for free. Cool beans! Did you see Giuseppi Nudo, Scranton's newest organ grinder and monkey performing anywhere? He's taken to that to make money, since his fraudBay sales have gone a-swirling down the toilet. Article: 336218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:24:41 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:11:19 GMT, "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," wrote: >Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? You're about 30 years too late. Teledyne already did this with the FETrons back in the '70s, replacing common minatures like 12AX7s and 6AK5s among others. Although they could mimic the characteristics of a tube fairly well, there were problems. FETrons were discontinued quite awhile ago. They were marketed to the Bell Operating Companies and various GTE companies as a replacement to conserve power and cut down maintenance costs in various short haul analog carrier systems. Article: 336219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:34:06 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449ED71E-671@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: It's my Bogalusa and I will hang on to my old Bogalusa forever.After all,y'all can't beat a name like that. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:41:09 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449ED8C5-672@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: Scratchy old crap? My little doggy www.catledog.com she plays hard and fast.I have ''War' wounds all over me. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <3ckt92t622sm4133hfapuar0es7kijab9k@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:01:12 GMT Brian McAllister wrote in message news:3ckt92t622sm4133hfapuar0es7kijab9k@4ax.com... > > The Atwood Kent that was referred to in the body of the ebay listing. > > Brian, I guess I was so distracted by the crappy chassis inside the AK cabinet I missed the Atwood in the text.... I must be getting old. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> For everything Clean, clean, clean There is a solvent, Clean, clean, clean For the grime, for every goo that's under heaven. A solvent for glue, and one for paint; A solvent for latex, for oil base, A solvent that kills and a solvent to heal That makes you laugh, that makes you weep For everything Clean, clean, clean There is a solvent, Clean, clean, clean For the grime, for every goo that's under heaven. A solvent for tar, a solvent for grease A solvent for bugs, and solvent for reek A solvent that cleans and one to erase Your dial scale- look there it is too late For everything Clean, clean, clean There is a solvent, Clean, clean, clean For the grime, for every goo that's under heaven. *&*&*&*&*&*&* John H. Article: 336223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:57:06 -0400 Message-ID: <129tqkk1tlmfk3d@news.supernews.com> References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> Ken wrote in message >> news:JYtng.10022$f76.5633@dukeread06... >> > 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken >> >> Who the heck is "ATWOOD"???? >> >> Ron >> >> -- >> >> Radio Collection Web Page, >> http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com >> WANTED! >> http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html >> Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. >> http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html > > atwood is Atwater's little brother. also a brother named Atfire. dad was Atlast? Article: 336224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:59:19 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > atwood is Atwater's little brother. also a brother named Atfire. > I had to ask... Ron Article: 336225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: <10363-449EE8F5-168@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <10362-449ED8C5-672@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> I remember now.The Michael Baker Jr.Engineers company 1956 Ford Car did not have a radio.And it was a six cylinder standard shift.Or,what some of y'all call a manual shift or stick shift tranasmission.It was a very deep dark green,as far as the paint job was. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:55:20 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EEA28-676@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> I am going to pay that scrappy 38 years old Bell South woman next door $200.00 to get up on my roof and do some scrapeing and painting.She said she would.I have gotten too fat and wobbly to get up anymore. cuhulin Article: 336227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:02:36 -0500 Message-ID: <10363-449EEBDC-169@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I remember what Nederlands did (or more properly,didn't do) in World War Two.Think what y'all like,but I never pay any attention at all to anybody in Nederlands.Or Belgium or France either.I have never been to Europe before and I never want to go there either.(Vietnam,I went,they have more guts than Europeans) I will never be sorry I posted this. cuhulin Article: 336228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EECF6-681@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <449e8e6d$0$31646$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Go to, alt.military.police news group and tell them you are from Nederlands.Let me warn you,they don't like Belgium either. cuhulin Article: 336229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:18:19 -0400 Message-ID: <129trsjbd4vsv25@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Actually by Bob Dylan. Extensive Googling doesn't back you up- references please. John H. Article: 336230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:21:45 -0400 Message-ID: <129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Peppermint Castile Soap (Dr. Bonner's) > Dr. Bronner, actually, as in "artic timber wolves raised by tiny dachshund mother obey her orders with zip and pep because love discipline evolves faith strength respect uniting all one!". John H. Article: 336231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? References: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> <10362-449EEA28-676@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:32:33 -0400 WHAT! cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I am going to pay that scrappy 38 years old Bell South woman next door > $200.00 to get up on my roof and do some scrapeing and painting.She said > she would.I have gotten too fat and wobbly to get up anymore. > cuhulin > Article: 336232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:15 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> I'm sorry to tell you this William, but the cone material (in your case >> most probably polypropylene) has nothing to do with the frequency >> response (it's a misconception to think paper cones can not offer >> as wide a frequency response as "poly*" cones, what you call plastic). >> The speaker "mechanics" has more to do in the frequency response then >> the cone itself. The surround, spider, magnet, voice coil etc...all add >> up > to >> create a specific speaker response/transient/damping... > > I'm sorry to spoil things for you, but plastic cones have significant > advantages over paper. Explain why some of the best sounding speakers on the market are using doped paper cones ? "Plastic" alone isn't much better than paper as for break-ups and can create multiple resonances. Sure they are stiffer, but don't sound better, unless you have limited hearing. Poly speakers are cheap to produce. If they were "the" answer, everyone would have adopted that material. Tannoy uses doped paper and doped polyolefin in their high-end products. Many other fine sounding speakers use similar amterials (including Titanium and other high-tech material in some of their lines). Cabasse for one, uses highly doped polymer membranes and high-tech membranes. Sure, high-tech membranes are great, if you can afford it. But paper cones are far from being "dead". If you think plastic cones sound better, fine, buy whatever suits your taste, but don't tell me paper is dead and is crap. The finest sounding speakers I listened to were made of doped paper...Yeah, I do listen to other speakers when I have a chance. I hope your "Bud" got wiser with time as 43 years later, paper is still used and "golden" ears gave high reviews to speakers using such "passé" material... Syl Article: 336233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <129trsjbd4vsv25@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:52:38 GMT Hagstar wrote: > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> Actually by Bob Dylan. > > > Extensive Googling doesn't back you up- references please. > > John H. > > Pete Seeger actually wrote the music originally for Turn! Turn! Turn!, basing the lyrics on Ecclesiastes. Article: 336234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:53:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Paul P > This guy is making his own tubes in his kitchen! > > PP > > http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm > Paul, you made my day! I have posted the direct link http://www.fonar.com.pl/audio/inne/pwl/pwl.htm in German to RMorg, would be fine if you could post in English. Best Regards Georg Article: 336235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:21:28 GMT Solid state 1L6 - http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6.html Solid state 1U4 - http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45987 See the last post in the thread! Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? Article: 336236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: <6bEng.7335$O35.3827@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:33:38 GMT The 50A1 can be replaced (cheaply!) with an Amperite D5TF30, at least in a Transoceanic - I've had one in my A600 for months and listen to it 5-6 hours a day! Mark Oppat wrote: > There were several SS versions of the 01A, but the availability and lower > prices of the 01A have killed any further production of them. Back in the > 70's the old timers thought we were running out of 01A's. They turned out > to be very wrong. There are almost no antique radio tubes that can not be > found reasonably priced. The only exceptions are the type 50, 1L6, 50A1, > and 6T5. > > Mark Oppat Article: 336237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <449f1215$0$31648$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes References: <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <10363-449EEBDC-169@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Date: 25 Jun 2006 22:45:41 GMT cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I remember what Nederlands did (or more properly,didn't do) in World War > Two.Think what y'all like,but I never pay any attention at all to I think this discussion is way off-topic, so I will not go into it much further. I could get into history and find many things that actually were done, and as much reasons for things that weren't. I could also find many things about your country's actions to throw mud back at you. For other readers: I am also aware of and thankfull for the help that eventually came from overseas to end WWII. > anybody in Nederlands.Or Belgium or France either.I have never been to > Europe before and I never want to go there either.(Vietnam,I went,they > have more guts than Europeans) I will never be sorry I posted this. Being uninformed/uneducated whilst making judgements doesn't make your statements very credible. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 336238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mikestraton@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:49:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3466-449F12E5-889@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net> References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> I am amazed by all the knowlegable responses to my question. You guys sure know your stuff ! I will definitely check out the suggestions. Thanks! Mike Article: 336239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <10362-449ED8C5-672@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <10363-449EE8F5-168@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Message-ID: <2BEng.3997$Wh.2367@trnddc04> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:01:18 GMT wrote in message news:10363-449EE8F5-168@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... >I remember now.The Michael Baker Jr.Engineers company 1956 Ford Car did > not have a radio.And it was a six cylinder standard shift.Or,what some > of y'all call a manual shift or stick shift tranasmission.It was a very > deep dark green,as far as the paint job was. >From the car shows you would perceive that all Fords had flatheads, all Mopars had hemis, and all Chevys were souped up at least to some degree. A radioless car with three on the tree? Didn't exist. > cuhulin,the auld deep South > -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com >From even farther south Article: 336240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:20:04 GMT But did all these people cross the ocean in the same boat? And what radio station were they listening to? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:Qe-dnRmeVcldlgLZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > >> atwood is Atwater's little brother. also a brother named Atfire. > > You forgot his famous brother Atticus Finch (sp?) from "To Kill a > Mockingbird" > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 336241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:20:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: <22632-449B37D8-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1151151315.626096.319540@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151194747.315297.233180@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <449e6391$0$31642$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <449e8e6d$0$31646$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> maarten wrote > On-topic content: Anyone know who currently owns the Berlin tube plant > that was bought by Samsung after the wende? Samsung supposedly disposed of > all the old macfhines and company history, to make an efficient production > line for picture tubes. More recently I think I saw a Panasonic picture > tube from the series that was manufactured there. I'm wondering how things > are, and if there is any chance they will survive or be resurrected as a > tube plant after the CRT concept is dumped in favour of Far-East > manufactured TFT panels. Maarten, there is a thread in RMorg (German language): http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/sterben_der_bildroehren_fabriken.html Panasonic CRTs was manufactured in Esslingen, in the old Lorenz plant. Definitively closed now. Some employees was on hunger strike* for 16 days, fighting to improve the termination pay successfully. They stay there with a picket until the 'Qualification company' is reality. *) hunger strike ended June 23rd. Kind Regards Georg Article: 336242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:38:35 -0400 d wrote: > Solid state 1L6 - http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6.html > > Solid state 1U4 - http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45987 > See the last post in the thread! > > > > Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > >> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on >> assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are >> becoming increasingly hard to find? There is something wrong with the 1L6 replacement schematic. The two zeners in series with pin 2 (1L6 plate) add up to 92 volts. The TO runs off a 90 volt battery, so the diodes will NEVER conduct and Q3 will see no power. I think the zener stack should use slightly lower voltage zeners. As anybody built this thing and measured the voltage at Q3's drain. NO WAY it is 12v with those zeners in the circuit and a 90v B supply. http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6solid.gif Article: 336243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: n2cigrz@webtv.net Subject: Re: Attn Wm Sommerwreck Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:38:16 -0700 Message-ID: <17792-449F1E68-901@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net> References: I tried to email you directly but it bounced back. if you are in the L.A. area and have a working model 11 I might be interested. Email or call me directly. 323-227-0600. Thanks, Mike Article: 336244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":-: Ghost Chip :-:" References: Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:44:27 -0700 :-: Ghost Chip :-:" wrote in message news:Gfnng.5944$6w.1715@fed1read11... > What is an "Ocean Crossing" type? > I wonder which ocean. > The ocean of time! > GC > Seller ended the auction. Now watch for it under some other creative guise! GC Article: 336245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:25:26 -0700 haven't heard Dr.B in a long time... makes great soap, but the wrapper is still the best for a hoot!!! bob in phx "Hagstar" wrote in message news:129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com... > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> Peppermint Castile Soap (Dr. Bonner's) >> > > Dr. Bronner, actually, as in "artic timber wolves raised by tiny dachshund > mother obey her orders with zip and pep because love discipline evolves > faith strength respect uniting all one!". > > John H. > > > Article: 336246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1151259515.735823.62570@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151272204.720684.273610@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Willard Radio A and B Power Unit? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:29:18 -0400 Message-ID: <449f2a5b$0$1008$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Almost makes it one of the first UPS's..... :-) "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1151272204.720684.273610@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > GerryL wrote: >> I haven't seen one of these before. Does anyone have an idea of value >> or demand for it? >> It appears to be in good shape, but dirty (and heavy). >> See pics here >> http://www.putfile.com/vagabond01 >> >> Thanks! >> -Gerry > Looks like a mid- 1920s light socket power AC unit. Possibly uses a 6V > battery to power up filaments for 01A tubes in 5/6 tube 3 dialer-type > sets. Then it charges up the battery. A for filaments, B for B+. I > don't know what it may be worth. Depends on who wants it to power up an > old battery set. The 6v battery would need to be replaced for sure. > Article: 336247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:32:30 -0400 Message-ID: <129uap6dn7tipb7@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com> <1151271818.794820.296020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1151271818.794820.296020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Biblical reference Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 predates Yes, but the ARRANGEMENT is Pete Seeger's too. The Bible quote doesn't have a refrain, or "swear it's not too late" (for peace that is). John H. John H. Article: 336248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:45:39 -0400 Rick Yerke wrote: > Ebay item #150000896741 > Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback > Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction > ends.Rick How the $%$@! did the bid jump from $125 to $10,000? Ebays software must have been hacked for that to happen. If the current bid is $125 and I bid A gazillion the next bid will only jump up by the bid increment which in this case would probably be to $130. The only way for it to get so high would have been for vencatobrazil to have bid $10300 and for ssroscar to have then bid $10400 or more. BUT vencatobrazil's bid should have shown as $130, THEN $10300. "Something is rotten in the state of Demark" Article: 336249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:46:54 -0400 Rick Yerke wrote: > Ebay item #150000896741 > Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback > Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction > ends.Rick BTW, that if the pictures havn't been doctered, that is one VERY nice looking TO. It SHOULD sell for a few hundred at least. Article: 336250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:45:44 -0500 Message-ID: <21485-449F2E38-162@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <2BEng.3997$Wh.2367@trnddc04> I have owned some flathead Fords and one flathead Dodge car before.I own a 1948 Willys Jeep which has a flathead engine and I own a 1914 Ford T Model car which has a flathead engine.My 1942 Willys World War Two Jeep does not have an engine.I am looking for an engine and radiator for that Jeep. cuhulin Article: 336251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:03:14 GMT You should contact the author and discuss it! He has an address showing on that website you could use. Perhaps the error you spotted accounts for the mis-alignment problem he mentions in the article? wa2mze(spamless) wrote: > d wrote: >> Solid state 1L6 - http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6.html >> >> Solid state 1U4 - http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45987 >> See the last post in the thread! >> >> >> >> Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: >> >>> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on >>> assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are >>> becoming increasingly hard to find? > There is something wrong with the 1L6 replacement schematic. > The two zeners in series with pin 2 (1L6 plate) add up to 92 volts. > The TO runs off a 90 volt battery, so the diodes will NEVER conduct and > Q3 will see no power. I think the zener stack should use slightly lower > voltage zeners. As anybody built this thing and measured the voltage > at Q3's drain. NO WAY it is 12v with those zeners in the circuit and > a 90v B supply. > > http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6solid.gif Article: 336252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:07:34 -0400 Message-ID: <449f3354$0$1017$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Looks like he figured out how to make my Z-1 repro batteries....as if that's a trade secret....:-) Bill "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:S7Gng.101568$QU3.92328@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > Rick Yerke wrote: >> Ebay item #150000896741 >> Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback >> Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction >> ends.Rick > BTW, that if the pictures havn't been doctered, that is one > VERY nice looking TO. It SHOULD sell for a few hundred at least. Article: 336253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS References: <1150988800.312473.274400@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <10363-449AB6AA-58@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <8KGng.1325$NP4.740@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:27:32 GMT Bill Turner wrote: > I HAVE MADE OVER 50 OF THESE PWR SUPPLIES OVER THE PAST 10 OR SO YEARS. > IN NO CASE HAVE THERE EVER BEEN A PROBLEM SUCH AS YOU STATED. PLEASE > NOTE THAT THE CURRENT TAKEN FROM THE TRANSFORMER IS AT MOST HALF THE > RATED CURRENT AND AS SUCH IS WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS ONE 110 VOLT > PRIMARY. > There may be another concern in that the insulation between one 110V primary and the other 110V primary may not be all that much. Usually one wants about 1400V "hi-pot" quality insulation, and many 110/220V transformers wont have that. Reason for the 1400V is to avoid arc-over from transient spikes. > > > Article: 336254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:49:04 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F3D10-789@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151285208.845822.255020@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I still prefer CRT tv sets and CRT computer monitors,CRT everythings.I guess I am too old a dog to learn any new tricks. cuhulin Article: 336255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:44:19 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F3BF3-787@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <26433-449A97C9-178@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Bill,I NEED TO CHECK OUT YOUR WEBSITE. cuhulin Article: 336256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <3466-449F12E5-889@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:11:34 GMT Let us know what you come up with, or if we can be of more assistance. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:3466-449F12E5-889@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net... >I am amazed by all the knowlegable responses to my question. You guys > sure know your stuff ! I will definitely check out the suggestions. > Thanks! Mike > Article: 336257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: FS Equip & Books Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:13:40 -0500 Radio Physics Course - Ghirardi 2nd 1942 972pg Some wear Binding good $8 Elec Essentials of Radio Slurzburg Osterheld 1944 529pg Minor wear $10 B&K Mod 1822 Freq Counter $39 8lbs http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/bk.jpg HP 606A Freq Gen The filter caps are loose and hanging on there wires but looks good Overall Untested. The band turret turns smothly and all controls are free. Face is nice and all knobs are there. It should be an easy restore and I think it'll be fine. $65 about 50lb http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/hp.jpg Prices do not include shipping. shipping is from 55992 -- Regards B.H. Souther, MN USA Radios- R-5000, NRD525,SP-600,SX-28,Eton E1 Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Remove your HAT to reply directly brianehillHAT@charter.net Article: 336258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:47 -0500 Message-ID: <26434-449F4263-156@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <2BEng.3997$Wh.2367@trnddc04> 1956 Ford cars,radios were optional equipment.In 1956 and many,many years before,for all cars and trucks sold in America.So were heaters.Before that,windshild wipers.My 1914 Ford T Model car has an optional old hand crank windshield wiper.There were all kinds of optional equipment/accessory gadgets available for starting hand crank engines while sitting in the drivers seat.There is a certain profile you must use while standing in front of hand crank vehicles.If you aren't on your toes,you can get seriously hurt.I can crank up my 1914 Ford T Model car,let it warm up and then shut it off and kick the front wheels (with ignition on) and it will start up again all by it'self. See that automatic transmission in your vehicle? who do y'all think pioneered that? cuhulin Article: 336259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:26:18 GMT "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:H6Gng.101560$QU3.67559@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > Rick Yerke wrote: >> Ebay item #150000896741 >> Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback >> Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction >> ends.Rick > How the $%$@! did the bid jump from $125 to $10,000? Ebays software > must have been hacked for that to happen. If the current bid > is $125 and I bid A gazillion the next bid will only jump up by the > bid increment which in this case would probably be to $130. > The only way for it to get so high would have been for > vencatobrazil to have bid $10300 and for ssroscar to have then > bid $10400 or more. BUT vencatobrazil's bid should have shown > as $130, THEN $10300. "Something is rotten in the state of Demark" The bid results follow eBay standards. It would have showed $130, up until the next bid came in. eBay's proxy bid system will only display the highest relevant bid. jim menning Article: 336260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:37:47 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449F487B-833@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <8KGng.1325$NP4.740@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU NOT BUILD ONE OF THESE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:40:39 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F4927-794@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: You can buy a new one,brand spanking new.They are available.Scratch around,do some searches for them. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:46:05 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F4A6D-795@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151286242.382444.57680@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> CRT ''tv'' Radar was a necessary propietary thingy.I once read a book about the Magnetron. Yeah,and there was a U.S.A.Airfield in England (or was it Germany?) and those nails in that Aircraft Hanger got red hot! and started popping. cuhulin Article: 336263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: (OT) Any Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:50:50 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F4B8A-796@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> of y'all live in or near Parkersburg West By God Virginia? cuhulin Article: 336264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <8dhu925ljbovsbuvfl0mubaufcc1c1o9vu@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Is it just me, or... Message-ID: <48Ing.1927$TP1.1832@fe05.lga> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:03:27 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:8dhu925ljbovsbuvfl0mubaufcc1c1o9vu@4ax.com... > Kind of strange for the first picture of this radio. As they say, "Sex > sells". > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140001155437&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Settle down Blacksmith :) BH Article: 336265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:53:50 -0500 Message-ID: <22894-449F4C3E-7@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: AND I MAKE REPLACEMENTS FOR THE 50, IL6, AND 50A1 (SOLID STATE) . I HAVE A 1629 WITH AN ADAPTOR WHICH WORKS AS A 6P5 BUT WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE DISPLAY. BY THE WAY MARK, I MADE THE 1629 ADAPTOR WITH WIRE LEADS AS YOU SUGGESTED, I HAVE SOLD ABOUT 25 OF THEM, NONE TO YOU. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151288179.557606.149200@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: <2lIng.13557$R26.10653@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:17:18 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1151288179.557606.149200@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > who would give a son a middle name of Atwater anyway? > It was his mothers maiden name. Ron Article: 336267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:24:47 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:Gsqdnbavwv5tYAPZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Explain why some of the best sounding speakers on the market >> are using doped paper cones? "Plastic" alone isn't much better >> than paper as for break-ups and can create multiple resonances. >> Sure they are stiffer, but don't sound better, unless you have >> limited hearing. > > Name some of these "better" speakers. And explain why they're > better-sounding. (That is, to the ear.) Do your homework William, use Google if need be. They're all over the place. Wait, try Tannoy, prestige series for a start...Or Precision studio monitors or... > There's nothing wrong my hearing (other than the usual gradual HF loss). I hope so (the loss that is). I'd rather be blind then deaf. > You're willfully ignoring my remarks about lossiness. Plastics are > generally > deader than paper. It's a moot point. Besides, you did not answer my other two questions: What are the mechanical and electrical specs which could not be met with a modern speaker for your KLH 11 ? > Around 1980, Infinity introduced speakers with polypropylene woofers. The > improvement in sound quality was plainly audible. This is physics, not > imagination. Audiophools aren't call that for no reasons. They reinvent the physics everyday. They "hear" things...Heck, they even have unidirectional wiring... If you read what Infinity did in 1983 was more than just replacing the paper cone with polypropylene. That is my point, which you carefully avoided. There is more than just "the cone" in a speaker. If you heard a Tannoy prestige speaker (Westminster or GRF for example), you don't want to know what the speakers are made of. Just if they'll fit in your living room... > It's not a matter of taste. Plastic drivers tend to be less colored. And > I've done live recording, so I know what I'm talking about. We all did that, one day or another. > Then you haven't heard any really good speakers. Ever heard QUADs, or This is going nowhere. Now you're talking electrostatics, which totally lacks bass unless you couple them with a sub-woofer BTW... And I'll bet you never heard a plasma tweeter, THAT is heaven, or as close can be for a music lover. > Bud died a year or so ago. Fried uses doped-paper woofers in some > speakers, > but one of them has a woven-fiberglass woofer. Yeah, and some Japanese companies are working (and some actually selling) wood cone speakers which are supposed to be _the_ thing...I haven't heard them yet. The cones aren't doped, they are drunken...As they use Sake to soften the pulp to ease cone forming... I say listen and buy the speakers that gives you goose bumps. But listen to the speaker >from behind a curtain (figure of speech) so you do not know what you're listening to. But I only speak from experience. I remember listening to a classical "recital" where I attended the original live recording and had the chance to listen to the recording the same day on my sound system and on a sound system that cost 50 times more than mine...But couldn't justify the difference as there was not 100,000$ worth of difference...or precision....or high-end...or whatever you call it. BTW, I was offered a pair of Quads moons ago for a very decent price...I still have my Tannoys... Not because the Quads weren't good (I was even positively biased then...), but they never gave me goose bumps... Syl Article: 336268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <26433-449F4B8A-796@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: (OT) Any Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:45:06 GMT Is this guys computer suffering from "idiot savant"? Omer "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:oLIng.3231$uo.2044@trnddc07... >I live about 1,000 miles south of there, in that great faraway land known >as Florida. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > wrote in message > news:26433-449F4B8A-796@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... >> of y'all live in or near Parkersburg West By God Virginia? >> cuhulin >> > > Article: 336269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: nice RCA 1935 console, not mine attn Menning! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:54:12 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:QcadnZKJddEB_QLZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com... > this is a very worthy RCA to consider... 1935 year, possibly the C15-3 or > C13-1 , I'd have to look it up, but a very nice radio either way. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-RCA-Victor-Console-Radio-in-Wood-Cabinet_W0QQitemZ280001736818QQihZ018QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > located in Central Wisconsin, and "pick up only" so it should go cheap! > > Jim Menning??? > > Mark Oppat > > > Thanks Mark, I'll keep an eye on it. It may make good trading stock for Lansing. jim menning Article: 336270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F65E3-728@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> There is always a lot of old records over there at the Goodwill store,I see them all the time.Used to be a guy who used to have a booth at the old Jackson steel building fleamarket.He used to go to the same junk shops I used to go to.He knew which old records to look for.Some of them old records are worth a lot of money. cuhulin Article: 336271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:57:25 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F6935-729@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: The so-called ''new generation'' nowdays are all about ipods and they all look just as stark blank Stupid and Dumb as those ipods too.I do not own,nor do I ever wish to own an ipod.In fact,I wouldn't have an ipod if you was to try to send me one for free. cuhulin Article: 336272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Is it just me, or... Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:05:49 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6B2D-132@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <8dhu925ljbovsbuvfl0mubaufcc1c1o9vu@4ax.com> Well,''mine'' sure doesn't sell.But then,,,,,, awwwwww,,,,,,,, forget it. cuhulin Article: 336273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Any Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F6A76-730@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: A buddy who was in ARADCOM (U.S.Army) in my unit at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963.I was wondering if he is back at Parkersburg,West By God Virginia? cuhulin Article: 336274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6C42-133@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: There is no (I repeat,NO!) Zenith in the World worth that kind of money! P.T.Barnum was right. cuhulin Article: 336275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6CCF-134@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: In that case,I think my Bogalusa is worth fifty million dollars.And I wont ship. cuhulin Article: 336276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:17:46 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F6DFA-731@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: It is probally worth eighty dollars and only if it works as good as new.I wouldn't give him more than seventy dollars,take it or leave it. cuhulin Article: 336277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:20:28 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6E9C-135@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151290804.070470.12480@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Now I am fixin to cut the light and get me beauty sleep. cuhulin Article: 336278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Terribly Troubling Tripletts........ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:37:05 -0700 Message-ID: Pictures in Binaries. In my travels over the past couple of years, I have acquired three similar large VOM-type multimeters made by Triplett. I have a model 630, 631, and one made for Ma Bell by Triplett. Each one is a little different, but all of them have the same problem. The ohms function is either intermittent or completely non-functional on most of the ranges. Voltage and current measurement capability is fine on all three meters. All of the meters show signs of corrosion or oxidation at the top of the range/function wafer switch assembly (this is interesting because two of the meters show no signs of battery leakage at all). Voltage and current measurement capability is fine on all three meters. I have hit this switch with an ohmmeter and followed the path of the circuitry with a schematic and have determined that the troubles are somewhere in the switch. The range/function switch appears to be a classic multi-element rotary wafer switch, but the contacts to the switch are sealed, which makes the usual de-oxit cleaning all but impossible without taking the whole switch assembly apart. The switch assembly appears to held on to the front of the meter with the slotted nut shown in the photos. What tool do I use to get this nut off? Is it even worth trying to do it? -Scott Article: 336279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: Terribly Troubling Tripletts........ Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:32:04 -0500 I usuall manage to get these types off with long nosers. For stubborn cases you might manufacture a spanner wrench by sacrificing a hollow shaft nutdriver. Article: 336280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Help: I need this unobtainium control Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:34:10 +0900 Message-ID: Dual control, 500K ohm audio taper, SPST switch. Shaft length 2". As you can see it's got really oddball shafts for each control. http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control.jpg The e-mail is good. TIA -- Over 5 decades of great hits Full Spectrum Radio http://fsr.jadephoenix.org Article: 336281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Terribly Troubling Tripletts........ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:43:47 GMT I don't know what these retainers are called, and I'm sure there are tools out there that are made for them -- but until I find them, I generally use long nose pliers. On stubborn ones I use a screwdriver and a hammer to break it loose. Yes, I see these on car radios all the time -- so if there IS a tool, I'd like to know where to find one. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:e7o2ra0emn@news4.newsguy.com... > Pictures in Binaries. > > In my travels over the past couple of years, I have acquired three similar > large VOM-type multimeters made by Triplett. I have a model 630, 631, and > one made for Ma Bell by Triplett. Each one is a little different, but all > of them have the same problem. The ohms function is either intermittent or > completely non-functional on most of the ranges. > Voltage and current measurement capability is fine on all three meters. > > All of the meters show signs of corrosion or oxidation at the top of the > range/function wafer switch assembly (this is interesting because two of > the meters show no signs of battery leakage at all). Voltage and current > measurement capability is fine on all three meters. I have hit this switch > with an ohmmeter and followed the path of the circuitry with a schematic > and have determined that the troubles are somewhere in the switch. > > The range/function switch appears to be a classic multi-element rotary > wafer switch, but the contacts to the switch are sealed, which makes the > usual de-oxit cleaning all but impossible without taking the whole switch > assembly apart. > > The switch assembly appears to held on to the front of the meter with the > slotted nut shown in the photos. What tool do I use to get this nut off? > Is it even worth trying to do it? > > -Scott Article: 336282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Interesting eBay service -- not mine Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:41:49 GMT Okay, it seems everyone else makes references to eBay items and comments on them, now I suppose it's my turn. I never realized you could actually advertise a SERVICE on eBay as an item. This fellow is offering a bid to restore a Corvette radio: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-1962-CORVETTE-WONDERBAR-RADIO-RESTORATION-W-WARR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80741QQihZ002QQitemZ4653584469QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW No, I do not recognize this fellow, so I can't comment on his reputation except to say he seems to have great feedback. I'll say this much -- it seems pretty scary to have somebody else set the price on a radio you haven't seen yet. This guy could lose his shirt. The reason I was looking in the first place is because I have a 55 Chevy E-Series whose wonderbar mechanism is toast -- somebody did a major hatchet job on it and it is unrepairable, even for conversion. I'd like to find a non-working 55-56 wonderbar cheap, just for the tuning mechanism. I also see where somebody is putting up NEW repro wonderbar radios with a "Buy It Now" of over $700, when the factory retail is $650. Even that is high in my opinion, but of course this price reflects the tooling for all of those special repro chrome parts, etc. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:48:51 GMT In article <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>, goodguyy@webtv.net says... > > >Gary the only way to get a fair deal on that model Zenith is to find one >at some yard sale or junk store cheap . I want one too but wont pay >thousands just dont need it that bad. I dont want to resell it either . >That kind of money goes to food and dentists . > Not picking on Ken here... just on semantics a bit.. actually Ken has it about right.... "Fair Price" on a Walton is the price that would be paid if the radio were offered in a venue where a large number of collectors of old radios were available to purchase the set.... thats a "Fair Price" and on this model it would be from $1400 for an unrestored slightly ugly 7J232 Non-Eye tube model your purchasing to get the cabinet.. Chassis could be missing or a rustbucket junker and that price would stay the same... What your describing as fair deal ... is a steal deal.. or a Cheap Deal... from a yard sale or an auction someplace where there aren't any quantity of collectors.. and the persons selling the radio have no idea what its worth in todays market... I am not saying that the radio is all that great a radio... they are NOT ... a good .. restored properly Philco 16B ... partiularily the 4 band version ... it will make a 12 toober walton look like its going backwards ... much better bandspread and repeatability of tuning and it will just plain suck a lot more signal out of the air than the 12 toob walton... Rca 9T and 10T like Mark said... same bit... super super radios... just not as highly collectable and pricey as Waltons... John Article: 336284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:42:05 GMT On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:20:04 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >But did all these people cross the ocean in the same boat? And what radio >station were they listening to? > > Probably some pirate station. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:45:23 -0600 Message-ID: <17208-449FE4F3-270@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: William you were comparing console phonos to portables .. hardly fair . If i were playing records all the time and serious about protecting the records from ware i would either get a nice turntable and hook it to a small amp and good speakers . If it had to be portable or in one box i would get a nice turntable easy on records and some sort of amp & a couple nice small spekers , some wood and make one The school record players sound good in general but could sound better wit a better speaker if your picky . Article: 336286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Northe Osbrink Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:11:47 GMT All, Wow! It looks _really_ interesting. This might work to provide a "machine translation," which may or may not be comprehensible. Unfortunately when I tried it, I received a message saying that too many people were currently running translations, but I intend to try again from time to time: Go to: Scroll down and paste the following URL into the Web Translate" window: Be sure to select the Web Translate button. Hope that it works 8') Northe, N6KO Article: 336287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:26:31 GMT Rick Yerke wrote: > In article , "Gary Tayman" wrote: > >>I don't know if it's worth over ten grand, but it is indeed a nice looking >>radio. Also, if my memory serves me, isn't that a rare color for the case? >>If that's original, that would put it in the same league as the military >>version of the H-500. It is indeed worth something, but still not that >>much. >> >> > > It is not original,it has been recovered and it should be worth less than an > original to any long time radio collector.Rick Is something really rare or wrong about the color? I have a Y600 that seems to be identical in color. I can put a photo on the binaries if anyone cares. Bill Jeffrey Article: 336288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:29:32 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >I'm going. It's good to live in Michigan! >Blacksmith >wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom We will be there... same 4 spaces as the last several years. Bringing a collection of consoles that need new homes.. too crowded here! John k9uwa Article: 336289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Message-ID: <5bSng.159830$F_3.54769@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:29:21 GMT Northe Osbrink wrote: > All, > > Wow! It looks _really_ interesting. > > This might work to provide a "machine translation," which may or may not > be comprehensible. Unfortunately when I tried it, I received a message > saying that too many people were currently running translations, but I > intend to try again from time to time: > > Go to: > > > > > Scroll down and paste the following URL into the Web Translate" window: > > > > Be sure to select the Web Translate button. > > Hope that it works 8') > > Northe, > N6KO > Or just go here: http://snipurl.com/sb3x Article: 336290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1150375910.526291.40730@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:31:45 GMT In article , caradio@verizon.net says... > > > >Southwest Florida is very ripe for such an event. Like I said, I'm working >on it. > >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Yo Gary .. try to get the winter one back into March instead of April so we can attend.. lots of fun yakking with the group.. and maybe we buy a few radios! John k9uwa.. Snowbird Article: 336291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1150391954.916842.47330@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:35:07 GMT In article <1150391954.916842.47330@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, w8fsa@arrl.net says... > > >I will certainly be there on Friday and Friday evening. I regret >missing >the event last year due to circumstances beyond my control. The >Philco theme is perfect since I'm in the process of restoring a 37-116. >I will stop by your booth to say hi. I also look forward to seeing Mike >Dale, Dan Gutowski and John Goller to let him know about my progress >with a restoration on a GE G-106 that I picked up from him about three >years ago. > >Mark Goodwin >MARC Member Major ReWire project on that one to be sure!... MAJOR Rubber Wire! Sure hope that whole timer gizmo works when your done with it! John Article: 336292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Value of Tubes... References: <1151319964.784324.265150@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:07:19 -0400 If you fill a tube caddy with them you can get $100-$150 on eBay. Ken retrodepot@bellnet.ca wrote: > I've just aquired a huge box full of tubes still in their boxes, > (radio, tv, etc..). I've gone through them and have kept the ones I'm > familiar with for jukeboxes, (5U4 rectifiers, 6SK7's, OA2, 6X4, 6973, > 6L6GB, etc.). Alot of these tubes I don't recognise. Some are > transmitter tubes, (big), I've been told. I've tried scanning the net > for value of these but don't know what to start with, there are so > many! Any tubes needed out there, rare ones that I might have. Send me > your wants lists. I'm not looking to make money, just trying to help > someone in need yet at the same time, don't want to be taken for a > ride. > Cheers, Steve > Article: 336293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:44:42 GMT On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:24:41 GMT, DeserTBoB wrote: >> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? > > You're about 30 years too late. Teledyne already did this with the > FETrons back in the '70s, replacing common minatures like 12AX7s and > 6AK5s among others. Well, it would be really nice to buy them newly made, but I was just hoping for a compilation of schematics. Few of us are prepared to join that Polish fellow in making vacuum tubes in the kitchen. Article: 336294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:35:30 -0500 Message-ID: <22632-449FFEC2-873@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151324172.683089.160880@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Gaslight? I love that old,old Tin Pan Alley Music. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: <22632-44A000CB-891@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <17208-449FE4F3-270@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Among some of my old record players,one of them is made for playing animal calls.It runs on batteries.I think I will give it to that Bell South woman because she loves nothing better than to get out and go Hunting and Fishing.Yeah,I will give it to her.I bought it for a couple of dollars at a Goodwill store years ago.Somebody might as well get some good use out of it.Last Friday,she left for her old home town area of Natchez in such a hurry,she left that empty Georgia Boot cardboard box sitting in her driveway (next door) by the front sidewalk.You just have to love a woman like that. cuhlin,the auld deep South Article: 336296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: 26 Jun 2006 16:11:11 GMT Message-ID: References: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," (Mc-Kiernan@bogus-subdomain.worldnet.att.net) writes: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:24:41 GMT, DeserTBoB wrote: > >>> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? >> >> You're about 30 years too late. Teledyne already did this with the >> FETrons back in the '70s, replacing common minatures like 12AX7s and >> 6AK5s among others. > > Well, it would be really nice to buy them newly made, but I was just hoping for a compilation of schematics. Few of us are prepared to join that Polish fellow in making vacuum tubes in the kitchen. The big interest did seem to be thirty years or so ago. There were those commercial substitutes, I seem to recall at least one other company besides Teledyne that made them, but they only made a limited selection, ie a handful of tubes that saw enough use that there might be demand. And while I forget the details, there was quite a detailed letter in QST about one ham's experience with the Teledyne replacements (after there was a brief bit about them in the magazine) saying something about how they were designed for specific use, and if you strayed from that use, they weren't so great. There were various articles about solid-stating tube equipment back then. Often, they'd be about modifying the gear for solid state devices, which meant using the chassis and main components, but often quite a bit of rework (because bipolars didn't fit the tube transformers well, and because once people were modifying, they decided to fix things like weak audio, which often meant using an audio output IC to replace the original chain). Some tried to cook up generic tubes, the ones that seemed most successful seemed to be based on understanding of tubes and a real attempt to emulate their behaviour. But much of the work seemed to be about making plugins that were specific to a piece of equipment. So someone didn't cook up a generic 12AU7 replacement, they cooked up a 12AU7 replacement for that specific stage in a Drake transceiver, and a different replacement for that other 12AU7. This was sort of a hybrid, in that it didn't mess up the gear but one was dealing with the surrounding circuitry for each tube. That said, I once solid-stated a 1-1.5MHz Collins PTO merely by soldering an FET to the tube socket, and running it off +12v. I don't think I even needed to do anything about the plate resistor (or maybe it was an RF choke to begin with). Michael Article: 336297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151291408.126171.221360@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2dUng.256704$Fs1.233385@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:47:58 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:10:08 GMT, Steven wrote: >> Actually by Bob Dylan. > > Actually adapted by Pete Seeger from the book of Ecclesiates. FWIW, the first response of some or all of the Byrds to the lyrics was that they were too dogmatic. Article: 336298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> <1151300021.510301.104060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <2MydnZfmDtjtUgLZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: <8aUng.25048$sM4.120366@weber.videotron.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:44:28 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:2MydnZfmDtjtUgLZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com... >> And I'll bet you never heard a plasma tweeter, THAT is heaven, >> or as close can be for a music lover. > > I worked for a store that sold the Hill Plasmatronics speaker. (Or tried > to. > No one would buy it.) We played the owner's live mastertapes through it. > All > I can say is... > > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > And that's an understatement. To quote Fluffy: "All else is gaslight." (Or > something like that.) -hehe...They worked somewhat differently from the original Dukane but the idea was similar. They never sold most probably because they were way too expensive at the time...I wonder how many are out there, waiting to be fired again...? You know what you can do if you find a pair ? Send'em here.... Syl Article: 336299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, k8vt" Subject: Re: Interesting eBay service -- not mine References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:55:15 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I never realized you could actually advertise a SERVICE on eBay as an item. Yup, it is done. A few months ago, I had need of repair on a Fluke 87 DVM. A fellow in Florida was offering repair service on eBay for just 87s (not 85s or 83s) at a fixed price. Sent it to him and interestingly enough, his fix was a complete new motherboard. BTW, don't know if my case was unique or if he just had a barrel full of 87 motherboards! ;-) Article: 336300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151340996.719197.303410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:01:29 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:56:36 GMT, Steven wrote: >>>> Actually by Bob Dylan. >>> >>> Actually adapted by Pete Seeger from the book of Ecclesiates. >> >> FWIW, the first response of some or all of the Byrds to the lyrics was that they were too dogmatic. > > And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass... She's been losing weight for almost 32 years now, albeit that the decline has tapered-off in recent years. Article: 336301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151341447.372592.276000@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:09:10 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:04:07 GMT, Steven wrote: > I just love Creeque Alley (sp) You spelled "Alley" correctly. (FWIW, you also spelled "Creeque" correctly.) Article: 336302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151334647.238601.163120@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:13:04 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:10:47 GMT, toxcrusadr wrote: > However, Dylan did write Mr. Tambourine Man which was performed by the > Byrds. Didn't they also sing The Mighty Quinn? Also a Dylan creation. I don't believe that they ever covered "Quinn" in a performance whose publication was authorized. (I have no clue about bootlegs.) Article: 336303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:03:05 -0500 Message-ID: <21484-44A01349-992@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <44A0097B.1ADD59AF@earthlink.net> Many moons ago,I read about some 'adapters'' that can take transistors to replace vacuum tubes.I also read about some blue tubes that do not produce much heat. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:16:41 -0500 Message-ID: <21484-44A01679-993@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Doin what comes natchurly,,,,,, Back in the 1950',there was a family (I love you,Susie,wherever you arrrrrre) that lived next door to me.Jabe Connerly drove an old four wheel drive Jeep pickup truck and he owned a gas station.He had an old World War Two era Zenith Trans-Oceanic stored in his garage.What did I know about such kinds of radios when I was a pre-teen kid? I was only ''interested'' in Susie. cuhulin,the auld dog in the auld deep South Article: 336305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: <21485-44A0192A-183@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151342056.479787.76870@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> She is desperatly seeking a boyfriend.She is thirty eight years old and very,very smart.(she is a tech troubleshooter at Bell South.Me t sixty four years old) metinks I am too old.And too chiken anyway. cuhulin,too chicken Article: 336306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <12576-44A02588-208@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: I give the Polish guy a lot of credit.He is doing his thingy and making a differnce. cuhulin,the crazy auld deep South Article: 336307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:23:51 -0500 Message-ID: <12575-44A02637-954@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151343846.143564.108700@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> tox,you won't drag me down a path about Polish jokes.Won't happen. cuhulin Article: 336308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:41:37 -0700 Message-ID: <17378-44A03871-608@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> >From Paul P: >This guy is making his own tubes in his >kitchen! > >http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm Check out this guy's site - http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/index.html and scroll down to "Homemade vacuum tube diode" and "Homemade vacuum tube triode". Lotsa other neat stuff too. oc Article: 336309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Interesting eBay service -- not mine References: <1151329009.475462.77950@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:11:46 GMT radio@bill-collins.net wrote: > I've seen a lot of listings like that for various repair services. Sure > he's taking a risk that the radio will be difficult to restore, He may just give that customer a new radio with maybe the old cover attached. He may have acquired a supply of NOS radios for less than the repair price. But the easy fixes mean that he need not deplete his NOS stock. Article: 336310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Mechanical Amplification Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:19:17 -0400 Message-ID: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> Here's something I figured out that's likely common knowledge to old record people. When they first cut records using a soft wax, and then created a hard "plastic" copy record out of it, the needle could be forced harder by the new harder record material than it ever could using the wax original. SO, thorough the mechanical advantage of the needle holder's lever arm the reproducer's diaphragm can be made to move as far or farther than the original cutting head's diaphragm moved. The extra energy is provided by the turntable forcing the needle through the grooves and therefore side to side. John H. Article: 336311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: I need this unobtainium control Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:55:25 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1151356253.649744.52970@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1151356253.649744.52970@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Mark Oppat wrote: >> having a concentric serrated shaft is unique to Japanese stuff. My >> replacement control systems here dont offer that specifically but maybe >> you >> could modify your knobs to use the type shafts I have (auto radio types >> primarily) that are for concentric shaft. >> >> What is bad on the control you have? If its the AC switch, I can often >> replace that... > > On Brenda's control, the carbon track appears to have gone south on > both pots. Would she be able to epoxy the shafts from the original > control over the replacement's shafts, which I assume are smaller? > > She says the switch is riveted on, and I find that hard to believe, > since I have a radio with the similar pot/switch combo and it looks > exactly the same. The switch is actually glued on on my example, > though.... > > Steph. To answer both questions: 1) It's out of a National radio (Japanese brand radio, built in Burma (Myanmar). 2) I get tired of people not believing that I can tell whether something is done one way or another. The link below shows clearly that the switch WAS RIVETED ON. It also shows clearly that the pot body was rusted to hell. http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control_Apart.jpg Article: 336312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: <24107-44A05DE1-53@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> Yonny: That certainly does make sense, tho i'd never thought of it that way before. The loudness of an windup machine can be amazing. The amplitude of acoustic energy coming out is certainly a hellava lot higher than the energy that drove the recording stylus. Reakon you could call it "mechanical amplification with infinitely variable delay". Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification References: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> <24107-44A05DE1-53@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <88_ng.4279$oa1.14@news02.roc.ny> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:32:20 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote: >Yonny: > That certainly does make sense, tho i'd never thought of it >that way before. The loudness of an windup machine can be amazing. The >amplitude of acoustic energy coming out is certainly a hellava lot >higher than the energy that drove the recording stylus. Reakon you could >call it "mechanical amplification with infinitely variable delay". :-) > >oc > > > In the early days of the telephone there was an amplifier that was made from a earphone (receiver) and a carbon microphone. Bill K7NOM Article: 336314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Silvertone References: <1151355877.494647.225720@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:41:56 -0400 Mallory says mod 1907. Ken term wrote: > I have a silvertone with a custom cabinet and need help identifying the > model number. > The chassis number is 104218. It has 5 tubes (80, 42, 75, 6D6, 6A7). > Any help would be great. > Article: 336315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-44A06FF7-951@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I was at the Goodwill store last Friday afternoon.That Sears Silvertone Stereo FM - AM Radio Phonograph Model 8067 Early American was still sitting there. cuhulin Article: 336316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: <44a065b1$0$9874$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > So what's the draw of this radio? I've never heard one, but from what > I can see, and from what I've heard it doesn't sound all that great. > It's not made all that well, or is it? Is it simply because it was on > that STUPID TV show about the Waltons? Oh wow, like it's the exact one > that appeared on the show. Please!! Well, yeah. That fame has been going on since the show was new. In the '70s all radios of the '30s were just junk; radio collectors only cared about AK breadboards and other '20s sets. When one radio gets enough exposure to create some demand, the demand feeds itself, prices go up and that's where we are now. There's nothing wrong with the "Waltons", they aren't any worse than any other Zenith. The complaint people always have is that you can buy another brand of radio just as nice or better for much less money. I don't know why they bother. Life isn't logical. > A question. If the Walton's were so poor from the depression, how > could they afford such a set? Even back then wasn't it comparably > expensive to most other comparable radios of it's era? I think they > should have made John Boy go out and wind some wire around a Quacker > oats box and build a crystal set. It's just a mindless sitcom. How much effort do you think they needed to put in to ensure historical accuracy? Only radio enthusiasts cared, and there weren't enough of those to waste the energy finding a "correct" set. jm2c paul -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151356539.384725.239100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:08:14 GMT There are two IF's in the radio. Both were made at the same time, both were put into service at the same time, and both have lived under the same conditions, in terms of heat and moisture over the years. So it is assumed that both might go bad at the same time. However that is not necessarily the case. If the silver mica disease is the result of a DC bias voltage, the voltages are not the same, so one may fail over the other. If the caps happened to come from different lots, there may be a difference in their construction. There are other factors that can affect this. When we rebuild a radio, we usually replace all the paper caps out of force of habit. Why? Because they are prone to failure from moisture over time. But if we were to check each cap individually as I've done, you'll find that some of them are bad, some are a little leaky, and some test just fine. In my experience I've found that the higher the rated voltage, the more prone it is to failure -- but there are always exceptions to the rule. In the case of micas, they are typically much more reliable and generally they don't get replaced just because they're there -- unless there's reason to believe they may be going bad. It's totally up to you as to whether you should change the others because one failed. If it were me, I'd leave the others alone. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1151356539.384725.239100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > OK. Is this normal. > > You get a radio with the crackly IF tranny syndrome. Replace the > silver mica caps in the 1st IF, but leave the second one alone. > > The radio works fine after that (and the requisite realignment).. > > What gives? I thought that if one went bad, the other was sure to be > bad too. But this is the second time it's happened, where I just > repaired the first IFT and left the second one alone....static cured. > :-/ > > -- > Steph > Article: 336318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Message-ID: <4M_ng.4804$il.4412@trnddc03> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:14:56 GMT It's all part of the overall design, where experimentation determined the optimum fulcrum position of the needle/diaphragm assembly. If less movement of the diaphragm, seemingly there would be less resistance of the needle against the record, and needles and records would both last longer. However with more movement the sound would be louder. I suppose if I were a record player company in the 1910's, I'd opt for the lesser movement and compensate with a larger horn. But what they did is what they did. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com... > Here's something I figured out that's likely common knowledge to old > record people. When they first cut records using a soft wax, and then > created a hard "plastic" copy record out of it, the needle could be forced > harder by the new harder record material than it ever could using the wax > original. > > SO, thorough the mechanical advantage of the needle holder's lever arm the > reproducer's diaphragm can be made to move as far or farther than the > original cutting head's diaphragm moved. The extra energy is provided by > the turntable forcing the needle through the grooves and therefore side to > side. > > John H. > Article: 336319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:07:03 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A076A7-951@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: The reproducer is that round hollow device which holds the needle.I bought a reproducer from Thomas Burnside www.antiqueradio.com about nine years ago.But since he only lives one mile west of me and sometimes I visit over there to see what kind of old radios and clocks and wristwatches I really don't need and since he said he would sell the reproducer to me for two dollars,I went ahead and bought it.I think I gave him two dollars for it.I think I will phone old Charles McKechien and see about what kind of old gadgets he has come up with lately.He lives about six miles from me. cuhulin Article: 336320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: TUBE ID HELP, PLEASE From: North Lake Audio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:23:37 GMT > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3234198217_997406 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, Iım an audio guy, who comes across early radio tubes from time to time. I hope someone can help me id this tube. Iıll post a link to a photo, if necessary, but I doubt it. Hereıs my description: Globe shape, brass-based, nipple top, short pins (i.e., UV style) with ceramic insulating insert Original brown box has ³detector² stamped on one end, but no brand markings anywhere on box or tube Small label on tube states: ³Filament Voltage 5 ­ 6, Plate Voltage 21² Anode is cylindrical in shape Printing in circle around top of tube circumference says ³Detector Tube² I thought it was a UV-200, but voltages are wrong, arenıt they? Thanks, Steve --B_3234198217_997406 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable TUBE ID HELP, PLEASE Hi,

I’m an audio guy, who comes across early radio tubes from time to tim= e.  I hope someone can help me id this tube.  I’ll post a li= nk to a photo, if necessary, but I doubt it.  Here’s my descripti= on:

Globe shape, brass-based, nipple top, short pins (i.e., UV style) with cera= mic insulating insert
Original brown box has “detector” stamped on one end, but no br= and markings anywhere on box or tube
Small label on tube states:  “Filament Voltage 5 – 6, Plat= e Voltage 21”
Anode is cylindrical in shape
Printing in circle around top of tube circumference says “Detector Tu= be”

I thought it was a UV-200, but voltages are wrong, aren’t they?

Thanks,
Steve
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