Article: 336884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Add to the list of oddities References: <1152205918.296374.121710@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:08:46 -0500 Gary Tayman wrote: > The types of things I'm referring to make no sense. In the case of the tone > control, one side goes to ground and the wiper goes to a shunt capacitor. > The other side is not connected -- bare solder lug. So why in heaven's name > would Delco go to the extra trouble of cutting the carbon pad on the inside > so that it doesn't cantact the solder lug? The control doesn't "open" at > the end, the cut is after that. The cut was made to prevent the solder lug > from being connected to the pad at all. If nothing is soldered to it, why > bother? In another case -- 57 Chevy's are notorious for this -- the tone > control is grounded on the control itself. Again, why bother when it's easy > enough to run a wire to ground -- and other wires are grounded such anyway. > Some Mercury's have a tone switch that is internally grounded -- I can't > understand the purpose of making a special switch to make a feature less > effective. > So called 'tone' controls were/are pretty useless anyway. 99% were simply high-cut filters...cutting the already sparse high end and raising the volume gives an apparent bass boost, but it's only an illusion. You get just as much bass by simply turning up the gain. In the case of the ground soldered to the pot body; perhaps they came >from the supplier already wired that way...with the track cut, as well. It would save a step in the assembly process. Perhaps in another application, the extra lug was used as a tie point. Article: 336885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:12:39 -0500 Mike Schultz wrote: > The Kash Register Kops are at it again. > > Do you have a link to the Post and Courier story? > Here in Nashville, the mayor announced that ticket revenues, as a budget line-item, would increase by one third next fiscal year...with no increase in fines. Sounds like quotas to me.... jak Article: 336886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Sherwin" Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:40:43 -0700, Dave wrote: > I am working on recapping a Knight-Kit T-150 transmitter. There is a > multisection 40/40 @ 450V capacitor that I replaced with a 20/20/20/20 > @ 450 V (new from AES). To make the 40uF sections, I paralleled two of > the 20uF sections together. Ground remained on the cap case. Both of > the sections see at most 350 volts. > > After I powered it up, I noticed that my 300V line dropped about 50V, > and that a sizzling sound was eminating from the capacitor vent. > > This is a new cap, and I've used this brand and model several times > before. I've not had this happen. > > Any ideas as to what is causing this to occur? You've been unlucky and the new cap is bad (does happen) or there's a wiring error somewhere. Paul Article: 336887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gameroom" Subject: Re: jukebox/coin-op collection Date: 7 Jul 2006 01:05:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1152259505.038597.204530@s16g2000cws.googlegroups.com> References: <1152169920.310563.249990@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Ken- What's your screen resolution? What browser are you using (Firefox/IE6.0)? Thanks, Chip gameroomshow.com Ken wrote: > Way too wide for my screen. Ken > > gameroom wrote: > > > Hi all, if you're interested in collecting coin-op related items and > > old Wurlitzer juke-boxes, then check out my site and let me know what > > you think: http://www.gameroomshow.com > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chip > > gameroomshow.com > > Article: 336888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: 7 Jul 2006 03:04:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> I recently bought a Sears Silvertone amp and tuner, pulled from a Silvertone model 7408. Made a new cabinet for it (see other thread about "Silvertone Console"). The radio plays with a rich, full sound and lots of deep bass. It has a phono input that can accept a ceramic or magnetic phono cartridge, with a switch to set it either way. Well, I connected a VM turntable with a Sonotone 8T cartridge. On most amps I've used it with, it sounds great for a ceramic cart. However on the Silvertone, it sounds rather thin and flat, with fairly low volume (as compared to the radio). Is there any way to boost the sound output of the cartridge, increasing the volume and bass? On other amps, it sounds nearly as good as magnetic. I even have a few Ronette crystal cartridges that are better-sounding when paired with the amps they came with. I love the vintage look and style of the VM turntable, and I know the cartridge is capable of better sound quality. There is also a slight hum, even though there is a ground connected to the chassis of the turntable through the left channel ground. The amp sounds okay with a magnetic phono, but I'd rather continue using the VM. There is also a tape input on the amp. Could I somehow make it work through there? Any suggestions? Gerry Article: 336889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Does anybody make repro grill cloths for GE S-22? Date: 7 Jul 2006 03:19:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1152267577.819853.9330@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> References: <1152227146.546375.81660@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> I've been searching for years for replacement grille cloth for my Westinghouse Rainbow-Tone console with no luck. It's a pink/dusty rose satiny material with a fairly large diamond pattern. The diamonds are approximately an inch or so wide by about two inches long. The edges have frayed. I could simply add some strips of material around the edges, but I don't think it would look good. Anyone seen anything like that? Gerry Article: 336890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: nospam4me@mytrashmail.com (RadicalModerate) Subject: Interesting advert site (Duke U. Ad*Access) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: I happened to run into the following "Ad*Access" site hosted by Duke University and thought I'd pass it along for the group's viewing/reading pleasure: http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/dynaweb/adaccess/ If you drill down a bit you can access old (1920-56) US radio and TV related Ads - there is a "Radio--Tubes" subheading: http://makeashorterlink.com/?D2E85406D [1] enjoy . . . [1] I use http://makeashorterlink.com because unlike http://tinyurl.com it tells you where its going to redirect you to and gives you 5 seconds to change your mind (less likely to be abused by spammers). -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Herb Oxley From: address IS Valid. Article: 336891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Deoxit at Radio Shack Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 07:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9PmdnelpabH62jbZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> <8425-44AB5E31-1042@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> <1152133480.069182.281010@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1152195885.802413.162820@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> In article <1152195885.802413.162820@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, shaqtopz@aol.com wrote: > DeoxIT is the best stuff I've ever found. I use it on everything from > flashlights, batteries, light bulbs to audio/video equipment. A friend > of mine's parent was having problems with her hearing aid - the battery > (she thought) was not working. She put in a second, third battery and > the same problem. > My friend then took one of the DeoxIT pens and wiped the contact on the > hearing aid - totally amazed - working perfectly now. Saved her tons > of money replacing the hearing aid. > M. > Hello, and Amen. brother. I've used DeoxIT D5 spray on electrical contacts and scratchy potentiometers and have always been impressed by both the immediate results and longevity of the treatment. I've found it very effective in reducing voltage drops at the metallic junctions of antique model railroad track (e.g. American Flyer S-gauge). Great stuff, those Caig products. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 336892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: audio cassette player belts and rollers? From: "mike48151" References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:48:04 GMT On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 02:49:14 GMT, DeserTBoB wrote: >> This was a really good deck that I'd like to "tune-up" to capture my >> old tapes to CD or DVD-RAM before it's too late! > > Relax...your cassettes will probably outlive any CD-R/DVD-R copies. > Shelf life on that stuff is abyssmal. Shelf-lfe on *-RWs is just awful, but on *-Rs, with some minor precautions, it should be several hundred years. Article: 336893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: audio cassette player belts and rollers? From: "mike48151" References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:50:41 GMT On 5-Jul-2006, "Lynn Coffelt" wrote: > I'd like to "tune-up" to capture my old tapes to CD or DVD-RAM If by "RAM" you mean "RW", I'd advise you to avoid it. You probably want CD-R or DVD-R. The *-RW stuff won't last more than a couple of years. Article: 336894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 04:57:31 -0700 Message-ID: > I recently bought a Sears Silvertone amp and tuner, pulled from a > Silvertone model 7408. Made a new cabinet for it (see other thread > about "Silvertone Console"). The radio plays with a rich, full sound > and lots of deep bass. It has a phono input that can accept a ceramic > or magnetic phono cartridge, with a switch to set it either way. Well, > I connected a VM turntable with a Sonotone 8T cartridge. On most amps > I've used it with, it sounds great for a ceramic cart. However on the > Silvertone, it sounds rather thin and flat, with fairly low volume (as > compared to the radio). Is there any way to boost the sound output of > the cartridge, increasing the volume and bass? On other amps, it > sounds nearly as good as magnetic. I even have a few Ronette crystal > cartridges that are better-sounding when paired with the amps they came > with. I love the vintage look and style of the VM turntable, and I > know the cartridge is capable of better sound quality. There is also a > slight hum, even though there is a ground connected to the chassis of > the turntable through the left channel ground. The amp sounds okay > with a magnetic phono, but I'd rather continue using the VM. There is > also a tape input on the amp. Could I somehow make it work through > there? Any suggestions? The Sonotone 8T, if I recall correctly, was not a conventional ceramic pickup. It was intended to be used with a matching network to feed a magnetic input. I could be wrong about this particular model, but Sonotone did make ceramic pickups for magentic inputs. Article: 336895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152239504.213202.36920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: REL Precedent Tuner on Ebay Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 05:02:57 -0700 Message-ID: Note that the poster is also the seller. I'm surprised the gentleman doesn't have the minuscule bit of knowledge needed to connect it to an antenna and hi-fi system to see if it works. Article: 336896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <8dOdnV0AzqfXRjbZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com> <44ac561e$0$941$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <12ap20s4cipoca2@news.supernews.com> <44ad9756$0$957$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> Subject: Re: GAS, LANSING and YOU! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:47:53 GMT So I gather you're not going to Lansing? The Sarasota show location is around the corner from my house -- I could almost walk there -- but I'll indeed be donating a little petrol to the cause. Today I'm headed to Arcadia to pass out flyers. Later I plan to visit Venice, then Englewood for the same. No I don't drive an Echo; I get to choose between a 64 Thunderbird and a Cadillac DeVille. Although I usually take the T-Bird for the enjoyment, this time I'm taking the Caddy for the air conditioning. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Martin Crossley" wrote in message news:44ad9756$0$957$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net... > Buck Frobisher wrote: >> "Martin Crossley" wrote in message >> news:44ac561e$0$941$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net... >>> jim menning wrote: >>>> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >>>> news:Readnf8HAey2szHZnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>>> >>>>> here is the site that gives the gas prices across the nation... >>>>> http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_home_page.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> gasbuddy is more up-to-date. http://www.gasbuddy.com/ >>>> >>>> It's worth checking out to plan your gas stops along the way on any >>>> long trip. >>>> jim menning >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.petrolprices.com/ >>> 0.96*1.835*3.785=6.67 US dollars/US gallon. >>> Martin(Stockport) >> >> Yes, yes, yes, Martin, poor Europe, gas prices are higher there (and >> they have been since WWII, and even before, for all I know). But two >> things to remember in Europe: nothing is -that- far away, and when >> you get there you won't find a parking space anyway, so stay home or >> take public transit. >> :) >> >> In our part of Canada, gas (regular) is at ~ C$1.08/litre, but who >> cares when you drive an Echo? > > OK Buck, point taken,but the island I live on is rather less in Europe > than politicians would have people believe! > The less said about public transport, the better. > And a passport is required to visit Europe from here, and the car ferries > are slow. Flying is possible, but with a low luggage allowance of about > two wooden radios. > I'm not really griping about our prices, just trying to give a different > perspective and trying my best not to feel a bit miffed or narked by > people mentioning their prices, which are lower than I can remember > seeing here in over 25 years! > I didn't know what an Echo was, but a search shows it's a Toyota Yaris and > has reasonable fuel economy. > > > > Article: 336897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! References: Message-ID: <0Qsrg.12882$MF6.11394@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:54:20 GMT From a Rodriguez cartoon in the National Lampoon... (In the Mayor's office) "Chief, I don't like to tell you how to do your job, but it's an election year and the unions are raising hell. So from now on, when the electrodes are connected to the prisoner's genitals, it's GOT to be done by a union electrician." Jeff Mike Schultz wrote: > The Kash Register Kops are at it again. > > Do you have a link to the Post and Courier story? > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:45:43 -0400 Is the cap NEW or NOS? Do any NEW caps need to be reformed prior to use? I always reform NOS caps before use, and always use a variac to gently bring up the B+ even when NEW caps are used. Perhaps overkill. Dave "Paul Sherwin" wrote in message news:e8l20e$s2l$1$830fa7a5@news.demon.co.uk... > On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:40:43 -0700, Dave wrote: > > > I am working on recapping a Knight-Kit T-150 transmitter. There is a > > multisection 40/40 @ 450V capacitor that I replaced with a 20/20/20/20 > > @ 450 V (new from AES). To make the 40uF sections, I paralleled two of > > the 20uF sections together. Ground remained on the cap case. Both of > > the sections see at most 350 volts. > > > > After I powered it up, I noticed that my 300V line dropped about 50V, > > and that a sizzling sound was eminating from the capacitor vent. > > > > This is a new cap, and I've used this brand and model several times > > before. I've not had this happen. > > > > Any ideas as to what is causing this to occur? > > You've been unlucky and the new cap is bad (does happen) or there's a > wiring error somewhere. > > Paul Article: 336899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Yet another question about activities Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:05:33 GMT As you know, I've been gathering information about other swap meets, both big and small, around the country -- how large, where hosted, admission/table charges, days and hours, etc. Now I've got another question: Those of you who are involved in clubs -- what activities do you provide besides swap meets? I know the Jacksonville club, of which I'm on their e-mail list, frequently hosts displays in such places as the public library, putting several museum-class radios behind glass, or even having members present to chat with the public about the hobby. I am personally planning to do a seminar for an antique shop in Arcadia, to talk to the public about restoring/collecting old radios. The shop came to me (as a result of those swap meet flyers) but I'll represent the club in doing it. I think it will boost interest, as well as fish out some other collectors who are unaware of the club or its activities. This is just one event; I would like to see more activities where radios. or the hobby, is set before the public, and where club memebers can get together for "fun" activities. This, more than anything else, will boost interest in the hobby. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: 7 Jul 2006 07:06:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > The Sonotone 8T, if I recall correctly, was not a conventional ceramic > pickup. It was intended to be used with a matching network to feed a > magnetic input. > > I could be wrong about this particular model, but Sonotone did make ceramic > pickups for magentic inputs. Well, I tried flipping the switch over to magnetic, but that made the input too loud and extremely distorted, just as I thought it would. I'm just wondering if there is some way to boost the gain, bump up the bass and cut the treble to more "normal" levels. Article: 336901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: "it has a ANTIQUE GREEN FINISH and that looks great" From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <12aoainoo2o5i49@corp.supernews.com> <1152152649.115385.298070@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:09:35 GMT On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:58:13 GMT, Syl wrote: >> Hey guys. Lighten up! My mother, God rest her sole, died at the age >> of 87. She died of an automobile accident. > > What's that got to do with the subject of this thread ? Hey, Syl, lighten up! My grandfather died when he was, uhm, really old. He died of, uhm, a stroke maybe. I dunno. Anyway, he's dead, so you shouldn't criticize anybody! Article: 336902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: The Reformation (Was: Sizzling in Replacement Cap) From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0eurg.334716$Fs1.133896@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:30:20 GMT Article: 336903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44AE7173.9FFE72F1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:36:55 GMT Dave wrote: > > Hello, > > I am working on recapping a Knight-Kit T-150 transmitter. There is a > multisection 40/40 @ 450V capacitor that I replaced with a 20/20/20/20 > @ 450 V (new from AES). To make the 40uF sections, I paralleled two of > the 20uF sections together. Ground remained on the cap case. Both of > the sections see at most 350 volts. > > After I powered it up, I noticed that my 300V line dropped about 50V, > and that a sizzling sound was eminating from the capacitor vent. > > This is a new cap, and I've used this brand and model several times > before. I've not had this happen. > > Any ideas as to what is causing this to occur? > > Thanks, > > Dave Goncalves It sounds like you got a bad cap. They may have stuffed the can with the wrong parts, or connected one of the caps backwards inside the can. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Deoxit Power Booster on closeout at Radio Shack Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:34:15 -0600 Message-ID: <14536-44AE70E7-135@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: <44ADF200.28A7DA8@earthlink.net> Yes, Ken. I know how you work. How do you ``know`` ? you have never been over here to see things . I dont know how you work unless i see it . Your above statement is incomplete . I guarantee my work . Article: 336905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <0eurg.334716$Fs1.133896@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: The Reformation (Was: Sizzling in Replacement Cap) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:40:42 -0400 Neil Sutcliffe (he is a member of this newsgroup) designed an excellent capacitor reformer for me. It works well and makes quick work of capacitor reforming. It is a variable (regulated) 0-500 volts and current limited (1-10ma) power supply - uses tubes. I can set the voltage to rated value +10% and set the current to about 5ma and let it do its thing with no danger of damage. Takes only a few hours. When I used the resistance current limited method, it often took days. Perhaps Neil is willing to share his design. Dave "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," wrote in message news:0eurg.334716$Fs1.133896@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > Article: 336906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) Subject: Re: "it has a ANTIQUE GREEN FINISH and that looks great" References: <12aoainoo2o5i49@corp.supernews.com> <1152152649.115385.298070@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 16:20:39 GMT Message-ID: <-LKdnaGkRO9OFDPZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@adelphia.com> In the 1930`s Philco had white plastic Rosette knobs available for customers, so that if you wanted to paint your radio white for a sunroom you could have matching knobs.They didn`t have any green knobs as far as i know.I have 3 of the white rosette knobs if anybody wants to paint a Philco cathedral white.Rick Article: 336907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> www.tvpredictions.com Invent a device which will allow ad skipping regardless,and put it on the market and you just might have a real money maker there. cuhulin Article: 336908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Deoxit at Radio Shack Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:36:14 -0500 Message-ID: <5350-44AE8D7E-29@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I guess I should get ahold of a can of Deoxit and try it out,J.B.Not meaning to be too off topic,but in World War Two,U.S.Army had more Ships than the U.S.Navy,here is a link about that. http://patriot.net/~eastlnd2/Army.htm (GO ARMY) My old buddy was on the USS Ticonderoga back in the 1960's.He was a Ship Fitter/Pipe Fitter.(read that,Plumber) I own an old wind up toy Locomotive.I think it dates back to the 1940's.it is in very nice condition and it still works too. cuhulin Article: 336909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: FS Rider's Set Northern CA From: "LOP" Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:46:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1152290286_13229@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Selling a set of Rider's manuals. 12 volumes total. Volume 1 contains an abridged version of the original five Rider volumes. (One volume) Volumes 6 through 16 (Eleven volumes) I will meet you half way in Northern, CA for delivery of this set and meet you for your pick up. The price for this set is $150. Please email us directly if you are interested at tubes@yestertronics.com May your tubes remain warm and glowing, Don and Liz ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 336910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "oldfogie" References: <%je6g.34381$Kn4.2861@bignews2.bellsouth.net> <3xm6g.2306$Xh3.7368@weber.videotron.net> Subject: Re: Phono idler needed Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:47:28 -0500 "oldfogie" wrote in message news:oet6g.30585$iB2.16394@bignews4.bellsouth.net... "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:nCs6g.931353$x96.134601@attbi_s72... In article , oldfogie@bellsouth.net says... > > > >Malcolm > > > > Well sorry if I took your post the wrong way Malcolm.. however as to value on these little RCA players. Nicely restored ones are worth more than you might think. See Flea Bay >http://cgi.ebay.com/Fully-restored-Red-RCA-45-EY-2-Record-Player-45RPM-NR_W 0 QQitemZ6623457725QQcategoryZ38034> that one was a 45-EY-2 ... most don't go that high.. but they do bring a lot for what they are. John k9uwa Man, looks like I need to paint this one red! This one is the complete player with amp and speaker, cabinet with top lid. That one wasn't red originally, ha said he had the place that rebuilt it to paint it red. If I knew I could get even half that for this one i would be more inclined to have the idler rebuilt. Malcolm Sorry I've been away so long, involved in various things, but I finally gave in and sent the idlet to Ed Crockett and had it rebuilt. Thanks to all for replies and suggestions. Malcolm B. Article: 336911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: "it has a ANTIQUE GREEN FINISH and that looks great" Date: 7 Jul 2006 10:00:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1152291647.167096.179660@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <12aoainoo2o5i49@corp.supernews.com> Rick Yerke wrote: > In the 1930`s Philco had white plastic Rosette knobs available for customers, > so that if you wanted to paint your radio white for a sunroom you could have > matching knobs.They didn`t have any green knobs as far as i know.I have 3 of > the white rosette knobs if anybody wants to paint a Philco cathedral > white.Rick I've seen those knobs and wondered what radio used them. Article: 336912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dkelvey@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap Date: 7 Jul 2006 10:41:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1152294064.606228.306900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Dave wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am working on recapping a Knight-Kit T-150 transmitter. There is a > > multisection 40/40 @ 450V capacitor that I replaced with a 20/20/20/20 > > @ 450 V (new from AES). To make the 40uF sections, I paralleled two of > > the 20uF sections together. Ground remained on the cap case. Both of > > the sections see at most 350 volts. > > > > After I powered it up, I noticed that my 300V line dropped about 50V, > > and that a sizzling sound was eminating from the capacitor vent. > > > > This is a new cap, and I've used this brand and model several times > > before. I've not had this happen. > > > > Any ideas as to what is causing this to occur? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave Goncalves > > > It sounds like you got a bad cap. They may have stuffed the can with > the wrong parts, or connected one of the caps backwards inside the can. > > Hi It is not likely backwards in the can, if you saw how they are made. It has either failed because of needing forming or was just a bad cap. In either case it is blown now. Dwight Article: 336913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Mark Finally has a Webpage up and running! Date: 7 Jul 2006 10:42:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1152294141.188867.208620@k73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <8TGqg.1059414$xm3.631752@attbi_s21> Awesome site, good stuff, make it grow (the web site). John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > Finally a Webpage.... Congrats Mark > > http://www.oldradioparts.net > > John k9uwa Article: 336914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: audio cassette player belts and rollers? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:48:39 GMT PRB is gone. Electronics Corner doesn't carry them anymore. Russell Industries has them now. Under PRB: http://www.russellind.com/prbline/index.html EVG is also history but Russell has some, although most items are dual-line now, PRB/EVG. If you order an EVG part don't be surprised to get one marked as both or as PRB. They aren't always originals but new ones made to match the size. These are also the ones being sold on eBay all the time in the tape recorder category. Ray "Arthur Dent" wrote in message news:B7%qg.111397$TK1.70529@fed1read06... > You might try this place: > http://www.electronicscorner.com/prb.htm > Prb used to have lots of belts. > Haven't used them recently. > Glen > > > "Lynn Coffelt" wrote in message > news:zuCdnbikLPdNzzHZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Teac A350 cassette deck, vintage 1970 or so? At one time one could >> buy >> a kit of rubber parts (belts, rollers, etc) from several suppliers. I've >> spent an hour "Googling" and cannot find much help. Where to look now, at >> least for belts? >> This was a really good deck that I'd like to "tune-up" to capture my >> old tapes to CD or DVD-RAM before it's too late! >> Thanks for any leads. >> Old Chief Lynn >> >> > > Article: 336915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 14:08:16 -0400 wrote in message news:1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > William Sommerwerck wrote: >> >> The Sonotone 8T, if I recall correctly, was not a conventional ceramic >> pickup. It was intended to be used with a matching network to feed a >> magnetic input. >> >> I could be wrong about this particular model, but Sonotone did make >> ceramic >> pickups for magentic inputs. > > Well, I tried flipping the switch over to magnetic, but that made the > input too loud and extremely distorted, just as I thought it would. > I'm just wondering if there is some way to boost the gain, bump up the > bass and cut the treble to more "normal" levels. The 8TA has an output of 0,3V only so you need a sensitive input. Also, ceramic cartridges, like their crystal cousins, like to see input impedance in the megohms. If the aux input of your amp has something in the 100K or less, there is your trouble. You can always insert a 1 or 2 MegOhms resistor in series with the cartridge, but you will definitely lose on output, especially if the input impedance is around 100K (10:1). So you are stuck with two choices: a) Build a simple preamp (see www.oldradioz.com/forum and look for the thread in the phono section about a small simple preamp) ...this is not Hi-Fi but will get you there. A Fet would be better, used as a buffer between the cartridge and the input. This will work if the cartridge output is sufficient to drive the aux input from your map. b) parallel a low value resistor across the cartridge's terminals and feed the mag input. Idea is to convert from a constant amplitude to a constant velocity type. It should be very close to the RIAA curve. Try 4,7 Kohms resistors for a start. Syl Article: 336916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:13:44 GMT I would suspect a defective cap. I've had a few over the years. It could be a miswiring of one of the caps inside or one could be/have gone bad. I would suspect one (or more) is connected backwards from the sound of things. Could be a mistake in fabrication of the multisection or mismarked (polarity) components inside. A very leaky cap can also fry. And it will pull down the voltage too. I have had a lot of problems with higher voltage caps in recent years too. They don't store well and I always have to check and reform and recheck them before using them. They don't seem to hold up as well as the lower voltage ones. Leakage is bad and capacitance at voltage drops. I have to be very careful when selecting caps for customers to avoid problems. If one goes bad in something of mine it's aggravating but if it goes wrong in someone else's gear it makes me look bad. Ray "Dave" wrote in message news:1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hello, > > I am working on recapping a Knight-Kit T-150 transmitter. There is a > multisection 40/40 @ 450V capacitor that I replaced with a 20/20/20/20 > @ 450 V (new from AES). To make the 40uF sections, I paralleled two of > the 20uF sections together. Ground remained on the cap case. Both of > the sections see at most 350 volts. > > After I powered it up, I noticed that my 300V line dropped about 50V, > and that a sizzling sound was eminating from the capacitor vent. > > This is a new cap, and I've used this brand and model several times > before. I've not had this happen. > > Any ideas as to what is causing this to occur? > > Thanks, > > > Dave Goncalves > Article: 336917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44AEBA72.75FF6ADF@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 19:48:24 GMT dkelvey@hotmail.com wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > > It sounds like you got a bad cap. They may have stuffed the can with > > the wrong parts, or connected one of the caps backwards inside the can. > > > Hi > It is not likely backwards in the can, if you saw how they are made. > It has either failed because of needing forming or was just a bad > cap. In either case it is blown now. > Dwight Some of the newer "FP" style capacitors are just off the shelf parts soldered to the terminal board and crimped into the traditional can. Is there a date code on the part? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 19:51:00 GMT robert casey wrote: > > cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > > > www.tvpredictions.com > > > > Invent a device which will allow ad skipping regardless,and put it on > > the market and you just might have a real money maker there. > > cuhulin > > > > If it's analog NTSC TV, boxes intended to strip off macrovision may be > enough. Just blank out all the stuff in the vertical interval between > the vertical sync and the top of the picture. Philips has designed a chipset that disables your remote during commercials. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 14:08:59 -0700 Message-ID: Can you temporarily wire two replacements under the chassis (after disconnecting your replacement completely)? If the problem goes away, it was a bad cap -- not common, but not unheard of. Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 336920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:02:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> On 7/7/06 6:57 AM, in article mMednXWwSP6m0TPZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: > The Sonotone 8T, if I recall correctly, was not a conventional ceramic > pickup. It was intended to be used with a matching network to feed a > magnetic input. > > I could be wrong about this particular model, but Sonotone did make ceramic > pickups for magentic inputs. The 8T was a standard stereo ceramic with a moderate output. I used one for years till I switched to a Shure M3D. The 9T as I recall, came with a set of barrels to be inserted between the cable and the mag input of the amplifier. Article: 336921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: Chicago's jazz radio gets the blues, bows to iPod Date: 7 Jul 2006 15:11:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1152310273.051685.279300@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Another one bites the dust. Someday, iPods will be antiques. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060707-7206.html ******************* Technology forces Chicago radio station to confront change 7/7/2006 9:47:32 AM, by Peter Pollack You can add radio to the list of media that will be facing new challenges for survival in the face of new technology. For years, WBEZ Chicago Public Radio has been a major home for jazz programming in that city, with a full one-third of its weekday schedule devoted to music, along with a bevy of music shows on the weekend. Next year, that era will be coming to an end, as the station makes the switch to an a news/talk/public affairs format. That change is in response to-among other factors-altered listening habits as WBEZ's music audience shifts to satellite radio and portable music players like the iPod. To be sure, not everyone is happy with the planned changes, and a petition site has even been set up by listeners to protest WBEZ's new focus. The station's shift leaves the third-largest US market filled with little more than a collection of cookie-cutter music outlets owned by corporate giants like Clear Channel, Infinity, and Bonneville. One rare exception is WFMT, which plays mostly classical and is itself a subsidiary of one of the local public television stations. *********** Reuters: http://today.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?view=CN&storyID=2006-07-06T120050Z_01_N30272704_RTRIDST_0_LEISURE-RADIO-GENERAL-FEATURE.XML&rpc=66 or http://tinyurl.com/zh9hs **************** FEATURE-Chicago's jazz radio gets the blues, bows to iPod By Deborah Cohen CHICAGO, July 6 (Reuters) - The iPod and a growing need for local news have done the unthinkable: They have cost Chicago, one of America's great jazz cities, its last major source for jazz programming on local radio. WBEZ, Chicago's National Public Radio (NPR) member station and among the oldest public radio outlets in the United States, has decided to scrap scheduled music programming -- the bulk of which was nightly jazz -- and move to a 24-hour news and public affairs format. **************** Article: 336922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:19:24 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I'll apologize in advance for the bandwidth of replies this will draw, but > here's a news story we've all been waiting to hear. > > First off, for what it's worth, last month I was driving downtown Sarasota, > actually following a police car. As I approached Palm Avenue, I saw the > police car turn into an alley -- that's when I noticed there were motorcycle > cops lined up, and others on Palm Avenue, basically ticketing everybody who > went through the intersection. Well, I pulled up to the intersection and > stopped. I waved another car to cross ahead of me, I waited for pedestrians > to cross the street in front of me, and when I looked to ensure the coast > was clear, I saw one the motorcycle guys looking at me. I asked myself what > he could possibly want -- I'm stopped, I let others go ahead of me, my turn > signal is on, heaven knows I wasn't speeding on this congested downtown > street. Oh well, the coast is clear so I'll go. Sure enough, he pulled me > over and gave me a ticket for not stopping! The story isn't over, I'm > taking it to court. Help me out here, Gary. I'm sure that somehow it is Bush's fault - after all, everything is - but I can't quite find the link to him. Hillary's phone was busy when I called for help, but maybe it is a right-wing conspiracy? [Yes, I've just come from Home Depot, and as always, that experience has left me feeling bitchy!] Bill Article: 336923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:45:07 -0500 Message-ID: <29047-44AEF203-162@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Somewhere on the internet there is a link to Speed Traps around America.You have to watch out for those too,you know.Just can't win for loseing anymore nowdays. cuhulin Article: 336924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:12:35 -0700 Message-ID: <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> > Philips has designed a chipset that disables your remote > during commercials. And how does it know a commercial is playing? Article: 336925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:13:45 -0700 Message-ID: >> The Sonotone 8T, if I recall correctly, was not a conventional ceramic >> pickup. It was intended to be used with a matching network to feed a >> magnetic input. >> I could be wrong about this particular model, but Sonotone did make >> ceramic pickups for magentic inputs. > Well, I tried flipping the switch over to magnetic, but that made the > input too loud and extremely distorted, just as I thought it would. > I'm just wondering if there is some way to boost the gain, bump up > the bass and cut the treble to more "normal" levels. Note my comment (above) about "matching network". Article: 336926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:16:03 -0700 Message-ID: > It should be very close to the RIAA curve. Nope. If a crystal/ceramic pickup is designed to have a genuinely flat amplitude response, frequencies above 2kHz will be shelved downward about 12dB on RIAA recordings. Article: 336927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:23:36 -0700 Message-ID: > The 8T was a standard stereo ceramic with a moderate output. I used one for > years till I switched to a Shure M3D. The 9T as I recall, came with a set of > barrels to be inserted between the cable and the mag input of the amplifier. You're probably right; I stand corrected. Now, if we could just find out what the network was... It's a shame the Sonotone engineer didn't post it... http://www.roger-russell.com/sonopg/sonopc.htm I've sent him e-mail. Perhaps he'll respond... Article: 336928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Need 120 transmitter Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:21:21 -0600 Message-ID: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run cordless . Article: 336929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:36:32 GMT > Help me out here, Gary. I'm sure that somehow it is Bush's fault - after > all, everything is - but I can't quite find the link to him. Hillary's > phone was busy when I called for help, but maybe it is a right-wing > conspiracy? > > [Yes, I've just come from Home Depot, and as always, that experience has > left me feeling bitchy!] > > Bill I can tell you. somewhere along the line Dick Cheney may have had stock in a broker package that may have included Home Depot -- which means it's his fault you had a bad day. I told you my wife is a Transportation Security Officer at the Sarasota/Bardenton airport. As such she receives a lot of intelligence on a continual basis. This will wake you up -- last week somebody was pulled aside in Houston for having suspicious materials. The Houston police let him go, saying he had nothing that should be considered contraband, and scolded the TSA officers. The fellow changed planes in Atlanta, where he was caught again. This time they investigated, and found everything needed to build a bomb onboard, and hollowed-out shoes for the purpose. Yesterday there was another incident involving a woman -- didn't catch where, and today there was some incident on a flight from Tampa to Chicago where someone attempted to enter the cockpit. I can continue with such stories, but suffice it to say the terrorists are still out there (albeit considerably weaker thanks to the removal of Saddam Hussein, whether you want to hear that or not) and the TSA, FBI, and CIA are all working together and doing a spectacular job of preventing another 9-11 attack. I'll make one more comment and then I'll stop. If you try to board a plane and someone questions you for having a 9v battery, there's a very legitimate reason. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 19:42:40 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Message-ID: References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> In article <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: > > Philips has designed a chipset that disables your remote > > during commercials. > > And how does it know a commercial is playing? The broadcast station or cable channel sends special information imbedded in the signal during those times they don't wan the remote to be active. Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 336931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter Message-ID: References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:56:55 GMT On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:21:21 -0600, goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote: >I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug >the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run >cordless . Send me $4.3 Million and I will start working on the problem. I will send you annual progress reports from Tahiti. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:05:40 -0400 "Ken G." wrote in message news:12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net... >I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug > the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run > cordless . > What Brian is saying Ken is that there is no such thing. Tom Article: 336933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Warren Weber" References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 19:14:06 -0600 Message-ID: "Ken G." wrote in message news:12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net... >I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug > the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run > cordless . > Ken.. This is July 7th not April 1st. (<:} Article: 336934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:31:21 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:mPSdnYyFoIXGZDPZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> It should be very close to the RIAA curve. > > Nope. If a crystal/ceramic pickup is designed to have a genuinely flat > amplitude response, frequencies above 2kHz will be shelved downward about > 12dB on RIAA recordings. > > You say nope (generalizing), then introduce an IF...Prove to me that it doesn't work and why. Supply more than one crystal or ceramic cartridge model and make that is designed to have a "genuinely flat amplitude response" with data, references and under which conditions the crystal or ceramic cartridge has been spec'ed. I am waiting. Syl Article: 336935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: for those who may want to put a modern tuner into something Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 18:40:05 -0700 Message-ID: <903ua21bo5fhnqsu1ohvguqankccbv98df@4ax.com> I put this radio shack tuner up for auction - the guts are pretty small - a single aprox 5X7 card, so if you have a nice cabinet that needs a tuner, this would be a good choice- it is powered from a separate amp, so it will take some figuring out - not hard, I just don't have the time, inclination or need to pursue it. here's the link - I expect it to go cheaply http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300005285246 I also listed a companion cassette player - looks like a nice unit, but who uses cassettes any more - may be useful for parts, or as with the tuner, you could use it http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300005288542 I suspect both these work - they were handed to me (here, get rid of these for me ) without the amp - probably the amp failed or got lost leaving these behind - but they are untested. ok, now back to the big vacuum..... Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: 7 Jul 2006 18:26:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> In article , John Byrns says... >The broadcast station or cable channel sends special information imbedded >in the signal during those times they don't wan the remote to be active. Like I said, 'what if they gave a party and nobody came?' This is just yet one more reason I no longer care to sample the broadcast or cable tv wares. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 336937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44AF1210.7AD5A7A1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:02:19 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > Philips has designed a chipset that disables your remote > > during commercials. > > And how does it know a commercial is playing? You claim to be an EE, yet you can't do a simple search of the Philips site? It was on the local TV news recently and for once they almost knew what they were talking about. its dirt simple. The chipset uses a line in the vertical interval reserved for station use and the commercials have the code in the VBI signal to disable the remote, including the on/off switch. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 02:27:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1152133245.632442.31270@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_B4rg.98643$mF2.41172@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> In robert casey writes: >Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: >> If the resources had _instead_ been spent on _biological_ research, then >we'd now know biological things that we never knew before. If the >resources had _instead_ been spent on feeding people, then people would >now be alive who are instead dead. If the resouces had _instead- been >left in the market economy, then future over-all levels of production >(which could fund research, feeding people, or whatever) would have been >greater than they will be. Again, we have finite resources to allocate >across competing uses. What made Hubble the right investment when it >was made? Stop wiggling your butt and think. >The trick is to ration out the NSF grants to research all the above and >more, to cover most of the promising bets to get the knowledge we can >use now and other knowledge that might lead to something we can make use >of. Research into supernovas or black holes might lead to something >that can be used for making fusion power plants work. I said "might", >not guaranteed though. The director of the Super Collider that had been planned for Waxahachie, Texas, bitterly complained of the project cancellation by Congress as "The revenge of the C students." Of course this won him no new friends on Capitol Hill. But he was right. It's an unfortunate state of affairs that few people people really understand how science works. Congress, and the general public, often feel funding should go to those who claim "We're going to cure cancer." Pure research doesn't work that way. Engineering does, but not research. There has never been a fundamental new discovery in science that didn't come straight out of left field. It's famously been said that had Proxmire been around in the twenties he'd have given a Golden Fleece award to Fleming for wasting the taxpayers' money by studying molds. I support the space program because it's one of the few places left where pie-in-the-sky ideas can be persued. Of course there has to be limits, and everything's a trade-off. But civilization needs those people who make it their life obsession to understand why the inside of a lightbulb darkens. It might be cheaper to just throw the bulbs away, but if you fund that guy he just might invent the radio tube. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 19:09:57 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> jim rozen wrote: > In article > , John > Byrns says... > >> The broadcast station or cable channel sends special information imbedded >> in the signal during those times they don't wan the remote to be active. > > Like I said, 'what if they gave a party and nobody came?' > This is just yet one more reason I no longer care to sample > the broadcast or cable tv wares. > This sounds like an urban legend....What would compel TV manufacturers to include such a feature in their sets, and who would buy them, knowing the feature was there? -Scott Article: 336940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter Date: 7 Jul 2006 19:56:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1152327405.372853.299830@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > "Ken G." wrote: > > > > I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug > > the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run > > cordless . (snip) "Beam me up, Scotty" Cheers, Roger Article: 336941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1152133245.632442.31270@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_B4rg.98643$mF2.41172@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:58:16 GMT On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 02:27:53 GMT, Tim Mullen wrote: > But civilization needs those people > who make it their life obsession to understand why the inside of a > lightbulb darkens. It might be cheaper to just throw the bulbs away, > but if you fund that guy he just might invent the radio tube. And so do you tax-away support for such folk? The valve, after all, was not invented under government grant. Article: 336942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1152133245.632442.31270@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_B4rg.98643$mF2.41172@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:09:05 GMT On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:58:55 GMT, robert casey wrote: > The trick is to ration out the NSF grants to research all the above and > more, to cover most of the promising bets to get the knowledge we can > use now and other knowledge that might lead to something we can make use > of. Indeed, that is the "trick". The problem is that for any resource allocation, one needs some sort of _ratios_ to direct allocation; such ratios are _prices_. Political processes generate prices that result in absurd allocations. Even if we put _saints_ in charge of the process, they'd just be guessing; and we will _never_ have saints running the process. Article: 336943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 03:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1152133245.632442.31270@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_B4rg.98643$mF2.41172@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> In "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," writes: >On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 02:27:53 GMT, Tim Mullen wrote: >> But civilization needs those people >> who make it their life obsession to understand why the inside of a >> lightbulb darkens. It might be cheaper to just throw the bulbs away, >> but if you fund that guy he just might invent the radio tube. >And so do you tax-away support for such folk? The valve, after all, was not invented under government grant. My cheekiness got the better of me in that example. The valve was engineering, not research. Of course what you say is true. I won't claim it's an easy problem, that of how we as a civilization distribute our resources. With no profit motivation it's difficult to interest corporations (or individuals) to shoulder the burden of pure research on their own. Let's look at the tube this time, instead of the valve. DeForest was wildly trying to get rich and or famous. This drove him to put in the time, money, and effort. How are you going to make a buck off of knowing the mass of an electron neutrino? Will knowing that save anyone's life? Does this mean we shouldn't bother? Particle accelerators ain't cheap, after all. I don't know which minor bit of knowledge will become the cornerstone of the next revolution. But I can almost guarantee you it'll start out as something thought to be useless. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 22:16:11 -0500 Message-ID: <29047-44AF237B-197@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Humans have the knack for Exploring.Be it interspace or outerspace,or wherever/whatever.Let the Explorations continue,is what I say.We only go around once in the Universe.Thank You for listening. cuhulin Article: 336945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 22:20:41 -0500 Message-ID: <29047-44AF2489-198@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I saw a link,I think it was in the middle isle at www.rense.com (yes,I know,it's sort of kind of a kook site to) yesterday about where ShotGun cheney invest his crooked money.Can you say Europe? cuhulin Article: 336946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 23:31:06 -0400 Message-ID: <12au9ns71bog933@news.supernews.com> References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> "Tom Biasi" wrote in message news:zyDrg.4401$862.28@fe10.lga... > > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net... >>I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug >> the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run >> cordless . >> > What Brian is saying Ken is that there is no such thing. > Tom Not yet anyway, but keep watching: we're not far from being able to broadcast power from solar collectors in space... Article: 336947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:33:44 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:e8n45702dql@news3.newsguy.com... > jim rozen wrote: >> In article >> , >> John >> Byrns says... >> >>> The broadcast station or cable channel sends special information >>> imbedded >>> in the signal during those times they don't wan the remote to be active. >> >> Like I said, 'what if they gave a party and nobody came?' >> This is just yet one more reason I no longer care to sample >> the broadcast or cable tv wares. > This sounds like an urban legend....What would compel TV manufacturers to > include such a feature in their sets, and who would buy them, knowing the > feature was there? So far they don't appear to be talking about television sets, only DVR's, to keep people from fast forwarding past the ads. They get away with it based on recent court decisions on piracy. Article: 336948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Deoxit Power Booster on closeout at Radio Shack Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 22:23:44 -0500 Message-ID: <29049-44AF2540-45@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <14536-44AE70E7-135@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> I could probally wee wee on it and do better than deoxit can. cuhulin Article: 336949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:41:53 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:e8n45702dql@news3.newsguy.com... > jim rozen wrote: >> In article >> , >> John >> Byrns says... >> >>> The broadcast station or cable channel sends special information >>> imbedded >>> in the signal during those times they don't wan the remote to be active. >> >> Like I said, 'what if they gave a party and nobody came?' >> This is just yet one more reason I no longer care to sample >> the broadcast or cable tv wares. > This sounds like an urban legend....What would compel TV manufacturers to > include such a feature in their sets, and who would buy them, knowing the > feature was there? > > -Scott This takes it out of the realm of urban legend: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20060070095.PGNR.&OS=DN/20060070095&RS=DN/20060070095 You may have to copy/paste the link. Article: 336950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44AF29D3.43142DD6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> <12au9ns71bog933@news.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:43:43 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > > "Tom Biasi" wrote in message > news:zyDrg.4401$862.28@fe10.lga... > > > > "Ken G." wrote in message > > news:12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net... > >>I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug > >> the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run > >> cordless . > >> > > What Brian is saying Ken is that there is no such thing. > > Tom > > Not yet anyway, but keep watching: we're not far from being able to > broadcast power from solar collectors in space... Yeah, they've been promising it for almost 50 years, now. When it happens you can use your microwave oven to protect the things you don't want to cook. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1152133245.632442.31270@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_B4rg.98643$mF2.41172@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <__Frg.338790$Fs1.239030@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:53:30 GMT On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 03:21:53 GMT, Tim Mullen wrote: > How are you going to make a buck off of knowing the mass of an > electron neutrino? Will knowing that save anyone's life? Does this > mean we shouldn't bother? Particle accelerators ain't cheap, after > all. Before anyone attempts to answer that question, then ought to ask you "When?" After all, in terms of bettering human welfare, research can be premature, exactly because it comes at the cost of more timely research, or of things of value that are not research at all. When there is _good_reason_ to expect research on the neutrino to be timely in its effect on human welfare, there will be a profit in such research. (That effect might result from a "practical" effect, or simply from the population becoming more commonly scientifcally curious.) > I don't know which minor bit of knowledge will become the cornerstone > of the next revolution. But I can almost guarantee you it'll start out > as something thought to be useless. Well, given the notion of "revolution", that might prove tautological. But, in any case, the market produces ostensibly useless results along with those whose use is immediately seen, and plenty of revolutions. In fact, it is quicker to spot and exploit the chance for revolution in its "useless" results. (I add "and exploit", think of such things as the sad history of the laser.) Article: 336952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <29047-44AF237B-197@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <30Grg.338797$Fs1.215361@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:54:39 GMT On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 03:16:11 GMT, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Humans have the knack for Exploring.Be it interspace or outerspace,or > wherever/whatever.Let the Explorations continue,is what I say.We only go > around once in the Universe.Thank You for listening. I'm all for exploration; I just don't want to shanghai people and force them to man the ships. Article: 336953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Reeves" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: 7 Jul 2006 21:24:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1152332666.635872.76590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Wow what next? Make the commercials part of the TV show so that you can't tell where the show stops and the ad starts. Wait that would be like Jello and Lucky Strike in the middle of a Jack Benny Radio Program or Carnation Milk in a Burns in Allen TV Show. Texaco/Milton Berle....At least those ads were somewhat entertaining! Regards, Steven Reeves Article: 336954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Where's the shuttle? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 23:25:41 -0500 Message-ID: <29047-44AF33C5-201@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <30Grg.338797$Fs1.215361@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Shanghai is in China.I have been to China three times before.Meettttt meeeee at the slop chuteeeee by the aulddddd Wanggggg Pooooooo,,,,,,, day oldddd potatos for a firey stewwwww,,,,,,, I never been to Shanghai before though. cuhulin Article: 336955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 23:30:40 -0500 Message-ID: <29049-44AF34F0-48@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I like them funny commercials ok.Like that one years ago when a banana truck turned over and all of them cars were slip sliding around everywhere.And that Japanese commercial when that woman had just cleaned her kitchen floor and that chicken plopped down on there. cuhulin Article: 336956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 23:32:00 -0500 Message-ID: <29047-44AF3540-202@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: That French condom commercial. cuhulin Article: 336957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Reeves" Subject: Re: REL Precedent Tuner on Ebay Date: 7 Jul 2006 21:45:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1152333908.442172.280160@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152239504.213202.36920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > Note that the poster is also the seller. > > I'm surprised the gentleman doesn't have the minuscule bit of knowledge > needed to connect it to an antenna and hi-fi system to see if it works. William, Didn't you just post a message where you said "I suspect both these work - they were handed to me (here, get rid of these for me ) without the amp - probably the amp failed or got lost leaving these behind - but they are untested." Maybe he didn't have the "time, inclination or need to pursue it. " Thats why when I don't have time to test an item (not very often) and even when I do, I always offer a 30 day no questions asked money back guarentee. Out of over 100 sales no Refunds yet. and I never had to hoc my wares in this fourm Regards, Steven W Reeves Article: 336958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:04:33 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Message-ID: References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> In article , "William Sommerwerck" wrote: > > It should be very close to the RIAA curve. > > Nope. If a crystal/ceramic pickup is designed to have a genuinely flat > amplitude response, frequencies above 2kHz will be shelved downward about > 12dB on RIAA recordings. Nope, if the cartridge had "a genuinely flat amplitude response" then using a small value resistor in the way Syl described would give perfectly flat response through a magnetic phono input, assuming the equalization on the magnetic phono input was accurate. If the cartridge had some mechanical equalization, then the response would be raised above 2kHz, starting around 500 Hz. Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 336959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <903ua21bo5fhnqsu1ohvguqankccbv98df@4ax.com> Subject: Re: for those who may want to put a modern tuner into something Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:29:29 GMT Hi! > I put this radio shack tuner up for auction - the guts are pretty > small - a single aprox 5X7 card, so if you have a nice cabinet that > needs a tuner, this would be a good choice- it is powered from a > separate amp, so it will take some figuring out - not hard, I just > don't have the time, inclination or need to pursue it. Technics...I already pursued it and what to do is pretty straightforward. http://greyghost.dyndns.org/tunerhack/ Since then I've uncovered the audio outputs and had much better luck with a beefier AC adapter. I'd say this tuner works reasonably well... > here's the link - I expect it to go cheaply Your first link to a review seems to point to a much older tuner. > I also listed a companion cassette player - looks like a nice unit, > but who uses cassettes any more - may be useful for parts, or as with > the tuner, you could use it This is much the same story. Probably made by Technics once again, this one needs 12 volts DC. I still use cassettes, and prefer them in abusive environments where my CDs will not go! http://greyghost.dyndns.org/2003s10/radio.htm (mostly OT, but hey...) William Article: 336960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 00:21:02 -0500 Message-ID: <21079-44AF40BE-107@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152332666.635872.76590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In my opinion,it should be Illegal for anybody to try to ''force'' anybody to watch any commercials on tv and to ''force'' anybody to listen to any commercials on radio.Ohhhhhh,,,,,, if only I had my way.I would put an END to all commercials and advertisements Forever! I am the World worst Hater of all commercials and adverisements,PERIOD! I dont care what anybody says. cuhulin Article: 336961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:54:31 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Brenda Ann wrote: > > > So far they don't appear to be talking about television sets, only DVR's, to > keep people from fast forwarding past the ads. They get away with it based > on recent court decisions on piracy. > > > My DVD player, 4 year old Mintek cheapie, won't let you skip past many commercials mixed in between the previews on DVDs. I can't just FF to the movie menu. It also won't let you skip past some previews and legal disclaimers on adult videos (so I'm told). I had a DVR for about 6 months (didn't use it like I thought I would). There were comercials that "resisted" being skipped. It seemed like it was about every third one no matter what the program. It almost seemed like the software in the DVR would let you skip 2 commercials but then restarted #3 a couple of times until you skipped past it again. #4 was a cointoss. It might skip, or it might resist. This happened during playback obviously. Article: 336962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Reeves" Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! Date: 7 Jul 2006 22:59:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1152338343.177916.290110@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> References: Ok I got a story from today. This morning my wife drives to the store to pick up some milk on the way back she gets pulled over and gets a $500 ticket for not having proof on insurance with her. We have insurance she just forgot to put the card from our insurance company in the glovebox. I tell her not to worry, when she goes to court we will show the proof and maybe get a small fine or even have the case dismissed. Later I take a look at the ticket and where you sign it it say's "copy provided". I asked if she signed anything before she got the ticket and she tells me the officer said "you don't need to sign them anymore". On the ticket it still says "by signing this you are not admitting guilt just promising to appear". Now I live in a little mayberry type town however I was raised in Los Angeles. If the cops there could issue tickets without a signature all hell would break loose. Imagine officers writing tickets to people they did not pulled over throwing away the offenders copy and then someone has a warrant for an offence they did not commit? I can't imagine tickets being issued without having a promise to appear signature with the exception of parking tickets. Regards, Steven Reeves Article: 336963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:23:50 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: OT: An offshoot of the AD skipping thread. Message-ID: Maybe I can swing this toward On Topic because I've noticed that the AM band that I listen to on my antique radios is about 50% commercials during any given time period. The issue on the other thread was about not skiping commercials on DVR. I was a youngster in the 70s when cable TV came on the scene and we never had it when i was growing up. I seem to remember that one of the big selling points was "You pay x.xx per month and you get continuous programming with no commercial interruption. The fee was supposed to offset the advertisements. Wow, TV with no commercials. I've now had cable for a few years and have noticed that, on many channels, commercial time now surpasses any that I can remember on broadcast TV. I've never actually timed it, but I would be willing to say thet it is nearly a 50-50 split depending on the channel. Many segments between commercials seem to be shorter than the breaks themselves. It seems that I'm paying for advertising. Has anyone noticed this, or am I being too fussy. I "might" watch 4 hours of TV per week and i feel bombarded when I do. It seems to be the same on radio, FM and moreso on our beloved AM, aside from the lack of programming. Any thoughts? Article: 336964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: for those who may want to put a modern tuner into something Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:30:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <903ua21bo5fhnqsu1ohvguqankccbv98df@4ax.com> thanks - deleted the link that points to the older tuner - I think this one may take DC, but I'm not sure -I didn't see a diode bridge anywhere, but then I only looked quickly. On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:29:29 GMT, "William R. Walsh" wrote: >Hi! > >> I put this radio shack tuner up for auction - the guts are pretty >> small - a single aprox 5X7 card, so if you have a nice cabinet that >> needs a tuner, this would be a good choice- it is powered from a >> separate amp, so it will take some figuring out - not hard, I just >> don't have the time, inclination or need to pursue it. > >Technics...I already pursued it and what to do is pretty straightforward. > >http://greyghost.dyndns.org/tunerhack/ > >Since then I've uncovered the audio outputs and had much better luck with a >beefier AC adapter. I'd say this tuner works reasonably well... > >> here's the link - I expect it to go cheaply > >Your first link to a review seems to point to a much older tuner. > >> I also listed a companion cassette player - looks like a nice unit, >> but who uses cassettes any more - may be useful for parts, or as with >> the tuner, you could use it > >This is much the same story. Probably made by Technics once again, this one >needs 12 volts DC. > >I still use cassettes, and prefer them in abusive environments where my CDs >will not go! >http://greyghost.dyndns.org/2003s10/radio.htm (mostly OT, but hey...) > >William > Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:34:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Brenda Ann wrote: > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:e8n45702dql@news3.newsguy.com... >> jim rozen wrote: >>> In article >>> , >>> John >>> Byrns says... >>> >>>> The broadcast station or cable channel sends special information >>>> imbedded >>>> in the signal during those times they don't wan the remote to be active. >>> Like I said, 'what if they gave a party and nobody came?' >>> This is just yet one more reason I no longer care to sample >>> the broadcast or cable tv wares. >> This sounds like an urban legend....What would compel TV manufacturers to >> include such a feature in their sets, and who would buy them, knowing the >> feature was there? > > So far they don't appear to be talking about television sets, only DVR's, to > keep people from fast forwarding past the ads. They get away with it based > on recent court decisions on piracy. If Philips actually includes this feature in ANY product, there will be more piracy than they know what to do with......In fact, they are literally begging for piracy to happen. Think about it....There are literally hundreds of recent TV programs available on usenet and Bittorrent sites right now, most if not all with the commercials excised. They are illegal, but only a tiny percentage of viewers ever download these things because it's simpler and more user-friendly to just set the ol' TiVO to automatically record a program, and then watch it later and fast-forward through the ads. (Given that people have been doing this with their VCRs for decades, any legal argument that the practice constitutes piracy is a huge stretch). I think that the compulsory-commercial thing would annoy the hell out of just about everyone, so much so that a great many more people would start to look for alternatives such as hacking the TiVO box or downloading the programs from the internet, legality and copyrights be damned. "Aye matey! I'll be savin' me time watchin' me TV commercial free!...more time to plunder and pillage that way" :-) -Scott Article: 336966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 19:25:03 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <%Axrg.1267$vO.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <44AEBB0F.B4F7BDD7@earthlink.net> <4KmdnYFSU7YWZTPZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> <44AF1210.7AD5A7A1@earthlink.net> <1152332666.635872.76590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Steve Reeves" wrote in message news:1152332666.635872.76590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Wow what next? Make the commercials part of the TV show so that you > can't tell where the show stops and the ad starts. > Wait that would be like Jello and Lucky Strike in the middle of a Jack > Benny Radio Program or Carnation Milk in a Burns in Allen TV Show. > Texaco/Milton Berle....At least those ads were somewhat entertaining! > Regards, > Steven Reeves > Some companies are working more and more with 'product placement' ads that are integral to the program. A bit different than the Golden Age of TV.. Article: 336967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: 8 Jul 2006 03:30:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1152354633.824355.73320@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> Syl wrote: > b) parallel a low value resistor across the cartridge's terminals and feed > the mag input. > Idea is to convert from a constant amplitude to a constant velocity type. It > should be > very close to the RIAA curve. Try 4,7 Kohms resistors for a start. > > Syl Could you describe that in a little more detail? I'm having a bit of trouble visualizing just where/how to add these resistors. Do you mean connect a resistor between the hot and ground leads of each channel, or...? Article: 336968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: An offshoot of the AD skipping thread. From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 10:47:47 GMT On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 06:23:50 GMT, Tom Adkins wrote: > Any thoughts? First, I think that things are shown to be worse when you count _all_ the crap time -- not just what people normally recognize as ads, but also credits (which are in fact advertisements) without new story. Second, if people were less tolerant of crap time, then the profit-maximizing level of it would be lower. At an extreme, imagine what would happen if people boycotted the advertisers who bought anything beyond the first four minutes of advertising in each half-hour, or refused to watch any program with more than six minutes of crap-time per half hour. Third, deregulation shouldn't be just removal of the regulations that industries _don't_ like. There should be an immediate end to such things as municipal governments guaranteeing local monopolies to cable television companies. Article: 336969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1152354633.824355.73320@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:53:01 GMT yes. Across the center and shell connection of the connector. Jeff gerryu21220@gmail.com wrote: > Syl wrote: > > >>b) parallel a low value resistor across the cartridge's terminals and feed >>the mag input. >>Idea is to convert from a constant amplitude to a constant velocity type. It >>should be >>very close to the RIAA curve. Try 4,7 Kohms resistors for a start. >> >>Syl > > > Could you describe that in a little more detail? I'm having a bit of > trouble visualizing just where/how to add these resistors. Do you mean > connect a resistor between the hot and ground leads of each channel, > or...? > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap Date: 8 Jul 2006 05:30:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1152361844.616908.127120@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In regards to the questions: The capacitor is a newly manufactured device from CE Manufacturing (using old Mallory tooling). These are the new FP type caps sold by AES. To my knowledge, new capacitors working in a power supply, following a full-wave rectifer, should not need forming? I've used this model cap in previous restorations with no problems - I've even run them paralleled as I have been trying to do. I cannot imagine having wired them in reverse - it would be difficult, as the FP can is common ground (confirmed by CE Manufacturing).Only if the cap is seeing a negative voltage long enough to completely discharge and reverse-form the dielectric, could damage result. I have not seen that. I agree that the cap is likely blown. Since my posting, I have recieved another cap from the manufacturer and installed it - thinking that I had likely just recieved a bad cap. This one too hassizzled. Convinced that I must have screwed up the wiring, I traced itout, comparing it to the orignal schematic. No problems there. I measured the voltages on the caps themselves during operation - one section seems to work fine (on the rectifier side of the power supply), and the other is the one that fails (towards the load). Even eliminating nearly all the loads (removing tubes) does not seem to help the issue. I suspect that either I have some wiring issue that I have failed to find, that running the capacitor in the particular parallel combination I have been doing cuases some internal fault in the cap, or I have been very unluckly with caps. I'm going to try installing individual caps for the two 40uF sections, and see what happens. Already have lost ~60 bucks on fried multisection caps. I think that in the future I'm going to install an multisection with 2 40uF sections, and just run them singly (no parallel combinations). Thanks for the help, guys. David Goncalves Article: 336971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: An offshoot of the AD skipping thread. From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <44AF97B6.80C22345@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 12:32:31 GMT On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:32:24 GMT, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > So, how many cable TV companies do you want on your street? I want as many as a _market_ would offer, as opposed to no more than a state bureaucracy will allow. > How > often do you want to see crews replacing the utility poles with taller > ones so they can add new systems (three feet minimum between services > provided by different companies) or digging up the right of way, and how > much land do you want to give up to the city or county for public right > of way? Rather than _any_ of that, I'd like to see the most proximate infrastructure owned by neighbor associations, with charters requiring them to keep such structure accessible to various service providers. I have, by the way, lived in a sizeable neighborhood where there was no "public" right-of-way, but a service provider systematically acquired permissions in order to wire up the community. (If the owner of any one lot refused to grant permission, they were prepared to simply route around it.) (Don't ask fulminating compounding questions on the presumption that you've got a list of unanswerables and are thus entitled to use such a structure.) > The less > customers per mile, system wide, raises the operating costs to the point > that systems are turned off and abandoned. Indeed, in any industry, there is a limit to how many firms can survive ina relevant region. In some industries, that limit may be one. But if that's the natural limit, then there is _no_need_ for municipal regulation to keep out other firms. Indeed, even in cases where only one firm can (successfully) occupy a given space at a given time, _contestability_ remains an important check on the behavior of a firm. In the case of something such as cable television service, this is especially easy to see at the territorial boundaries. If one provider can eat away at those at its boundaries, and they can eat at its boundaries, then they have an incentive to _compete_. > Several cities tried having > two systems in the past, and only one survived. Having bureaucrats pre-plan the process of competition obviously wasn't a good idea; but -- also _obviously_ -- wasn't the same thing as having a deregulated _market_. > BTW, the CATV company has to pay the local government > that owns the right of way a monthly fee for every foot of cable they > build in the right of way. Indeed, there is part of the real explanation of the granting of monopolies. Municipal governments can realize more revenues if they can charge higher prices, which they can if they are leasing a monopoly right. > I left the CATV business in 1986 when it cost US $18,000 a mile to > build the trunkline (near Cincinnati, Ohio), plus the costs of the > feeders, bridging amplifiers, line extenders and line taps. Using that and other data, we might be able to ball-park the optimal size of a firm in 1986. Such approximation wouldn't tell us a whole lot relevant to the rest of discussion here. We'd also have to look at the extent to which up-stream prices for these pieces of infrastructure were _reflections_, rather _causes_ of the price of service. (Market prices of the means of production are determined by the values of their most-valued products.) > You already > have the option of two digital KU band sat services across the US and > maybe C-band, if you can get a clear shot of the birds you want. Any good or service competes with every other good or service, and various goods and services are meaningfully similar in what they deliver to what cable delivers. That fact doesn't make artificial constraints on the supply of any of them a good idea. > If it > made sense, the local governments would grant franchises to every > company that wanted to build in their jurisdiction. Politicians and bureaucrats do what "makes sense" from the perspectives of their own interests. These interest do not generally correspond to the things that would "make sense" from the perspectives of the interests of the rest of us. Article: 336972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 07:37:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1152361844.616908.127120@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 7/8/06 7:30 AM, in article 1152361844.616908.127120@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Dave" wrote: > > I suspect that either I have some wiring issue that I have failed to > find, that running the capacitor in the particular parallel combination > I have been doing cuases some internal fault in the cap, or I have been > very unluckly with caps. > Given this is a transmitter, is it possible that some large amount of RF is present at that capacitor section? Electrolytics have fairly high ESR at RF frequencies. Perhaps a shorted choke? Article: 336973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: (OT) ABC Tries to Kill DVR Ad Skipping Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:24:48 GMT This is NONSENSE, NONSENSE, NONSENSE! Oh, it's possible someone might sue someone else, get it into court, and next thing you know the new recording devices will be built so as to force you to watch the commercials, but the entire idea is still NONSENSE! Just what exactly are commercials? They are ads which pay for the programming. By the time you see the ad it's already paid for, so not a single penny of revenue is lost if someone doesn't watch it. Such ads are (usually) beneficial to the public, as it brings an awareness of the products that are available -- features, pricing, etc. So, at least to a degree, the ads are a beneficial thing. Now: suppose an advertiser brings up a concern to the TV station, saying that its exposure will be diminished because viewers will be watching via some recording device, be it TiVo, DVD, VCR, or whatever, and may skip through the ads in order to watch the program. It is then up to the TV station to prove that they still have a tremendous viewing audience that will indeed see the ads and respond accordingly -- which is absolutely true. As for the concept of forcing viewers to watch a commercial by dasabling the TV/VCR controls, this will actually become counterproductive. Parents will think twice about letting the kids watch prime time TV, not because of the program content but because they will be forced to watch stories of "BOB, who is happy because he took some sex stimulant" or similar crap. Others will shy away from network television and migrate to the pay channels, as they have already done to some degree. In other words, programs which force us to watch the commercials will have a negative impact on the size of its viewing audience. As for me, and most of the viewing public, we generally hit the remote as soon as we realize there's an ad on that we don't care to see. After all, we have seen the Coca-Cola ad 15,000 times already, and unless you're hiding under a rock you're quite familiar with the product, and if you're thirsty, no doubt you will go to the refrigerator and get one. So what could possibly be missed by a viewer who fast-forwards through a Coke ad? On the other hand, if Chrysler unveils a new sports car that you're interested in, you might want to let the ad play so you can take a look at it. In other words, interested consumers will still benefit from the ads being there. If the ad-skipping practice should ever be proven to reduce sales, the problem can be easily dealt with by adding a little ingenuity -- not by forcing technology on the hardware, but by improving the programming. In the early days of television, it was ruled that any advertiser -- not just the show's main sponsor -- could place spots during the course of the show. This, plus scandals such as the game show debacle which eliminated sponsor logos from the set, created a scenario for TV that is much different from radio. In the radio days, Harlow Wilcox would visit the McGees and make a few comments about Johnson Wax. Jack Benny would listen the quartet singing about Lucky Strikes. Bing Crosby would tell us about the new Philco products. However with modern television the ads are totally separated from the programs -- and you have to sit through 10-11-12 annoying ads to get to the program itself. If these ads were better incorporated into the program, or better scheduled, or simply less annoying, there would be fewer "skips". It's just another example of industry refusing to change with the marketplace -- take it to court rather than adapt. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:5350-44AE89F0-27@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > www.tvpredictions.com > > Invent a device which will allow ad skipping regardless,and put it on > the market and you just might have a real money maker there. > cuhulin > Article: 336974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152266647.043604.245520@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com> <1152281171.911914.250990@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Booster for ceramic cartridge? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 06:27:30 -0700 Message-ID: >> Nope. If a crystal/ceramic pickup is designed to have a genuinely >> flat amplitude response, frequencies above 2kHz will be shelved >> downward about 12dB on RIAA recordings. > You say nope (generalizing), then introduce an IF...Prove to me > that it doesn't work and why. Supply more than one crystal or > ceramic cartridge model and make that is designed to have a > "genuinely flat amplitude response" with data, references and > under which conditions the crystal or ceramic cartridge has > been spec'ed. You took what I wrote quite out of context. What I wrote is correct, but it might have been clarified: "If a crystal/ceramic pickup is designed to have a genuinely flat amplitude response for a constant-amplitude stimulus, frequencies above 2kHz will be shelved downward about 12dB on RIAA recordings." You're confusing the output of the pickup with a recording having a particular EQ, with the inherent behavior of the pickup itself. LPs are usually cut with velocity-sensitive cutting heads. If a "constant-velocity" disk is played with a magnetic pickup, the pickup's output is flat. No EQ is needed. There's a number of practical problems, however, with cutting LPs "constant-velocity". For one thing, it produces very large LF groove excursions, and very small HF excursions. The former is not good for playing time or trackability, the latter is not good for HF S/N ratio. Another problem is that such disks can't be easily played with cheap constant-amplitude pickups, which traditionally represented the overwhelming bulk of record-playing transducers. So a recording that's closer to constant-amplitude is needed. The "correct" way to do this would be to apply a 6dB/8ve boost across the entire spectrum, starting at around 50Hz. Unfortunately, this would require ~53dB of EQ at 20kHz, quite a bit at both the recording and playback ends. The practical solution was to not apply the EQ in the midrange. For RIAA EQ, this is the region between 500 Hz and 2300 Hz (70us). Frequencies from 50 Hz to 500 Hz, and 2300 Hz to 20 kHz are cut constant-amplitude. Frequencies outside these bands are cut constant-velocity. The fly in this ointment is playback with a constant-amplitude device, because it produces a 6db/8ve rolloff above 500 Hz, eventually shelving at about 12dB down above 2300 Hz. Phonograph manufacturers often ignored this, as it gave a mellower sound, which most listeners preferred. * A pickup with a flat amplitude response produces this shelving effect, because the recording itself -- with respect to amplitude -- is not flat. If a company such as Sonotone is trying to reproduce the recording accurately, some form of EQ above 500Hz is needed. This is usually applied mechanically. The Sonotone equalizer presumably provides a sufficiently high load impedance to avoid bass loss, and electrical EQ to remove the mechanical boost. The pickup's output should then work properly with a maganetic input. > Nope, if the cartridge had "a genuinely flat amplitude response", > then using a small value resistor in the way Syl described would > give perfectly flat response through a magnetic phono input, > assuming the equalization on the magnetic phono input was > accurate. If the cartridge had some mechanical equalization, > then the response would be raised above 2kHz, starting around > 500 Hz. Absolutely correct, but that wasn't what I was talking about -- which was what happens when you play an RIAA disk with a "genuinely flat" amplitude device. * This is the purported reason Command's pop recordings boosted the treble. See the Popular Electronics article, ca 1960. Article: 336975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <903ua21bo5fhnqsu1ohvguqankccbv98df@4ax.com> Subject: Re: for those who may want to put a modern tuner into something Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 06:28:56 -0700 Message-ID: Don't you have a conventional audio system you can connect this tuner to? Heck, even the phono input on a table radio would work, one channel at a time! Article: 336976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152239504.213202.36920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1152333908.442172.280160@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: REL Precedent Tuner on Ebay Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 06:36:50 -0700 Message-ID: > William Sommerwerck wrote: >> Note that the poster is also the seller. >> I'm surprised the gentleman doesn't have the minuscule bit of knowledge >> needed to connect it to an antenna and hi-fi system to see if it works. > William, > Didn't you just post a message where you said "I suspect both > these work -- they were handed to me (here, get rid of these for > me) without the amp -- probably the amp failed or got lost > leaving these behind -- but they are untested." No, I did not. I've been involved in consumer electronics for almost 50 years, and I know how to check out just about anything electronic. Ditto for most things photographic. I don't remember ever having sold an item I was unable to test. But I've never sold anything that wasn't my own property. A person who "buys them up at auction lots with other odds and ends" may not have the knowledge or experience to test everything he comes across. Nevertheless, if you're regularly selling audio equipment, you should know the basics of testing it. If nothing else, you're hurting your own profits, because people aren't going to bid as much for an untested item, "money back if not delighted" notwithstanding. Article: 336977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: An offshoot of the AD skipping thread. From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <44AF97B6.80C22345@earthlink.net> <44AFAA3F.D8892477@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:40:51 GMT On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:51:29 GMT, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Since you already know everything, I will not waste my time on your > misconcetions and lies. PLONK That's a very sad substitute for any sort of systematic refutation. But I guess you can't deliver what you haven't got. Article: 336978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Sonotone "Velocitone" schematic Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 07:02:48 -0700 Message-ID: <5vidnSPamKOCJjLZnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com> I've posted the schmatic to alt.binariess.pictures.radio. I'm trying to figure out exactly what the circuits do, as they seem a bit backwards. Article: 336979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Whoever Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:10:43 GMT Tom Biasi wrote: > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net... >> I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug >> the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run >> cordless . >> > What Brian is saying Ken is that there is no such thing. > Tom > > If the dude hasn't figured that out, any chance I could offer him some ocean-front property in Wyoming? Article: 336980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! Date: 8 Jul 2006 07:16:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1152368173.626198.186890@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Don't know Sarasota, but the game is the same here in NJ, especially in smaller towns. It's a MAJOR source of revenue for the local municipal treasuries ... approaching 35% in the most notorious ones. If you go to court without a lawyer, you have next to zero chance of winning, and, of course, a lawyer will cost you more than the value of the ticket. Even worse than the up-front cost of the fines are the "points" on your license and the insurance surcharges they bring. Here in NJ, a ticket like that will cost you at least $500 in surcharges over the following 3 years. Mainly because of the insurance issues, the courts around here were getting really clogged with folks contesting these tickets. So they have established a new "plea bargain" strategy. You go to court and they let you plead guilty to a different "violation" with a higher fine but no "points" on your license. At a recent court session I attended, at least half the cases were resolved in this way. Every couple of years, one of the newspapers will run an espose on the practice of "ticket quotas", "revenue targets", etc., complete with a list of the worst towns and the percentages of their budgets derived >from traffic fines. The same towns are always on the list, so I guess it's like they say about the weather: you can complain about it but you can't do anything about it. DD Article: 336981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Reeves" Subject: Re: REL Precedent Tuner on Ebay Date: 8 Jul 2006 08:52:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1152373961.399777.200560@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1152239504.213202.36920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Sorry Mr Sommerwerck I got my Williams mix up. A noble (pun intended) Mistake. if both post "had" been from the same poster it would have been the kettle and pot thing. Gosh people are gonna start cunfusing me with the other Steve (skippy) for my stupid goof. Sorry and thanks for correcting me. Steven Reeves William Sommerwerck wrote: > > William Sommerwerck wrote: > >> Note that the poster is also the seller. > > >> I'm surprised the gentleman doesn't have the minuscule bit of knowledge > >> needed to connect it to an antenna and hi-fi system to see if it works. > > > William, > > Didn't you just post a message where you said "I suspect both > > these work -- they were handed to me (here, get rid of these for > > me) without the amp -- probably the amp failed or got lost > > leaving these behind -- but they are untested." > > No, I did not. I've been involved in consumer electronics for almost 50 > years, and I know how to check out just about anything electronic. Ditto for > most things photographic. > > I don't remember ever having sold an item I was unable to test. But I've > never sold anything that wasn't my own property. A person who "buys them up > at auction lots with other odds and ends" may not have the knowledge or > experience to test everything he comes across. > > Nevertheless, if you're regularly selling audio equipment, you should know > the basics of testing it. If nothing else, you're hurting your own profits, > because people aren't going to bid as much for an untested item, "money back > if not delighted" notwithstanding. Article: 336982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Need 120 transmitter References: <12807-44AEFA81-141@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:56:31 GMT Ken G. wrote: > I need a 120 volt transmitter so i can run radios cordless . You plug > the trans. box in the wall then the reciever box into the radio & run > cordless . > Ken - All the kidding notwithstanding, and assuming you are serious and not trolling, you have to provide a little more detail. First, how much power will the radio consume? A small transistor radio wouldn't be too hard. A big Zenith console would be a lot harder. Almost all tube radios will be difficult - but to get back to the question, how many watts? Second, what is the minimum distance between the radio and the "power transmitter" that you will accept? A foot is probably do-able. Fifty feet is much harder. Third, do you have a maximum acceptable size on the power transmitter's antenna? Fourth, do you expect the radio to operate directly, in real time, from this power source? Or can the radio operate from a battery, which can be recharged "cordlessly" during the off hours? Bill Article: 336983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:00:39 -0500 Message-ID: <19261-44AFD6A7-256@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152368173.626198.186890@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I pay $165.00 every six months to American Automobile Insurance Agency office on Highway 80 here in Jackson,Mississippi for the bare minimum liability insurance on my raggity old 1978 Dodge van.I keep the card in my wallet and my insurance policy in the glove compartment of my van.Nobody ever rides in my van exept me.I dont like new vehicles that cost soooooo much money for license plates/tags and insurance.I like my old wrecks I already know how to work on and keep them running. cuhulin Article: 336984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:12:11 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Sizzling in Replacement Cap References: <1152240043.844422.301640@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1152361844.616908.127120@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Dave wrote: > In regards to the questions: > > The capacitor is a newly manufactured device from CE Manufacturing > (using old Mallory tooling). These are the new FP type caps sold by > AES. > > To my knowledge, new capacitors working in a power supply, following a > full-wave rectifer, should not need forming? I've used this model cap > in previous restorations with no problems - I've even run them > paralleled as I have been trying to do. > > I cannot imagine having wired them in reverse - it would be difficult, > as the FP can is common ground (confirmed by CE Manufacturing).Only if > the cap is seeing a negative voltage long enough to completely > discharge and reverse-form the dielectric, could damage result. I have > not seen that. > > I agree that the cap is likely blown. Since my posting, I have recieved > another cap from the manufacturer and installed it - thinking that I > had likely just recieved a bad cap. This one too hassizzled. Convinced > that I must have screwed up the wiring, I traced itout, comparing it to > the orignal schematic. No problems there. I > measured the voltages on the caps themselves during operation - one > section seems to work fine (on the rectifier side of the power supply), > and the other is the one that fails (towards the load). Even > eliminating nearly all the loads (removing tubes) does not seem to help > the issue. > > I suspect that either I have some wiring issue that I have failed to > find, that running the capacitor in the particular parallel combination > I have been doing cuases some internal fault in the cap, or I have been > very unluckly with caps. > > I'm going to try installing individual caps for the two 40uF sections, > and see what happens. Already have lost ~60 bucks on fried multisection > caps. I think that in the future I'm going to install an multisection > with 2 40uF sections, and just run them singly (no parallel > combinations). > > Thanks for the help, guys. > > David Goncalves > Dave, According to the schematic of the T150 transmitter This power supply is voltage doubler. The dual 40 MFD capacitors are indeed connect to a common ground and there is a doubler capacitor, C46 that floats from CR2 to the transformer cold side. Are the two rectifier diodes good and installed correctly? Cr-1 and C46 make up the doubler. I have restored one of these in the past and have not had a probelm. Regards, Bill Cohn - N9MHT Article: 336985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: For those who like political rants, here's a good one! Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:07:42 -0500 Message-ID: <19261-44AFD84E-257@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152368173.626198.186890@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Look at a Rand McNally road atlas.There are only one or two roads (I think) into and out of New Jersey (I am not picking on the great State of New Jersey www.hometownfreepress.com New Jersey) that are not toll roads.There was a guy in the 114th Aviation Company www.114thaviationcompany.com with me in Vietnam in 1964.He is originally from New Jersey and he once said when he left New Jersey he never looked back.He is a General at Army.Mil now. cuhulin Article: 336986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Chicago's jazz radio gets the blues, bows to iPod References: <1152310273.051685.279300@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 12:40:08 -0400 Evidently Public Radio NOR Public TV is makeing enough money with their present format. I've noticed both are sounding a lot like AM radio in their ads. Ken Beloved Leader wrote: > Another one bites the dust. Someday, iPods will be antiques. > > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060707-7206.html > > ******************* > Technology forces Chicago radio station to confront change > 7/7/2006 9:47:32 AM, by Peter Pollack > > You can add radio to the list of media that will be facing new > challenges for survival in the face of new technology. For years, WBEZ > Chicago Public Radio has been a major home for jazz programming in that > city, with a full one-third of its weekday schedule devoted to music, > along with a bevy of music shows on the weekend. Next year, that era > will be coming to an end, as the station makes the switch to an a > news/talk/public affairs format. That change is in response to-among > other factors-altered listening habits as WBEZ's music audience > shifts to satellite radio and portable music players like the iPod. > > To be sure, not everyone is happy with the planned changes, and a > petition site has even been set up by listeners to protest WBEZ's new > focus. The station's shift leaves the third-largest US market filled > with little more than a collection of cookie-cutter music outlets owned > by corporate giants like Clear Channel, Infinity, and Bonneville. One > rare exception is WFMT, which plays mostly classical and is itself a > subsidiary of one of the local public television stations. > *********** > > Reuters: > http://today.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?view=CN&storyID=2006-07-06T120050Z_01_N30272704_RTRIDST_0_LEISURE-RADIO-GENERAL-FEATURE.XML&rpc=66 > or > http://tinyurl.com/zh9hs > > **************** > FEATURE-Chicago's jazz radio gets the blues, bows to iPod > > By Deborah Cohen > > CHICAGO, July 6 (Reuters) - The iPod and a growing need for local news > have done the unthinkable: They have cost Chicago, one of America's