Article: 337330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:08:03 +0900 Message-ID: References: > Tom Adkins (newton5@remove.comcast.net) writes: >> I see some rectifiers of various types, some light bulbs, a couple of >> coils, a >> magnet, a rheostat, and maybe even a tube. Maybe a power supply with >> multiply >> redundant rectifiers for those critical applications ;) Ebay item >> 320005998272 Wow.... that looks like something I built when I was 10 years old out of tubes and parts scavenged from the dozen or so 20's and 30's radios I found around an old farmhouse we rented in central Utah.. only I plugged mine in and let out all the magic smoke. From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Sat Jul 15 10:00:44 EDT 2006 Article: 337331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: eico HF12A schematic? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:16:15 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <12bbp06nr6d41c5@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xt-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:337331 Does anybody have a schematic to the Eico HF12A amp that the would like to share or know where I can get one? Thanks, David Article: 337332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: any of you californians going to this? Date: 13 Jul 2006 02:53:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1152784416.780678.81350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152747221.592329.85840@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > http://www.californiahistoricalradio.com/photos66.html Man, I wish I lived in California! And I wish I had the money to buy some of these! :-( Gerry Article: 337333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 13 Jul 2006 04:03:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1152788606.113842.114940@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > I see some rectifiers of various types, some light bulbs, a couple of coils, a > magnet, a rheostat, and maybe even a tube. Maybe a power supply with multiply > redundant rectifiers for those critical applications ;) Ebay item 320005998272 > > Would be cool as a Haunted Lab Halloween display, static of course. Yikes! So, a copper-oxide rectifier, some amber balls, some random tubes and such, a buzzer, a rheostat, a hammer & anvil speaker magnet, some light bulbs, a coil, some tubes (including an audion??) gives one??? Ah, yes.... One of THOSE!! (Sorry) Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA p.s.: S.W.A.G .... If it ever worked, I am guessing that it made the bulbs blink alternately. BTW, those amber balls are worth some bucks if they are real. Article: 337334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: any of you californians going to this? Date: 13 Jul 2006 04:18:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1152789515.581129.54100@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152747221.592329.85840@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > http://www.californiahistoricalradio.com/photos66.html > > > > > > i spy what appears to be an AK model 10 neutrodyne breadboard. i am > > also seriously digging that juke and the high end victrola. wish i were > > there. that victrola would be in my living room saturday night. > > > Ah yes, KRE LIVE! You BET I'm going....If I were restricted to going to > a single radio event, this is the one I would attend. It is awesome. > > This event is going to be HUGE, probably the biggest vintage radio event > on the west coast. The organizers have really busted their butts to make > this year's KRE LIVE! an event that will go down in radio history. If > you are going to be anywhere near Berkeley on Saturday, you MUST attend! > > And the auction is only part of it! > > Take a tour of CHRS's ever expanding and improving headquarters, the > site of a real honest-to-goodness vintage radio station, KRE. KRE's > control room was the one used in the Wolfman Jack scene in the movie > "American Graffiti". Vintage radiophiles will enjoy the CHRS museum and > radio repair shop. Check it out! > > Hams will enjoy checking out W6CF, CHRS's club ham station. CHRS's > resident hams will be broadcasting to those far away during the event, > and there are many rare and excellent pieces of vintage gear in the > shack. Check it out! > > There will be a live performance by the Broadcast Legends. If you've > ever wanted to see how dramas were performed in the golden age of radio, > this is your ticket. Last year's performance of the Lone Ranger was > entertaining to listen to and fascinating to watch, and this year's > performance promises to be even better. Check it out! > > Three (count'em) bands will also be performing at this event, The Jon > Hammond Trio, Frankye Kelly & Friends, and The Tamsen Donner Band. Check > it out! > > In addition to the auction, there will be a donation flea market, > featuring items that didn't quite make the cut for the auction. There's > a lot of great stuff to be had here...In fact, I got some of my most > interesting finds of the year out of this area at last year's event. > Check it out! > > If you get hungry, there will be delicious Aidell's premium sausages and > Peet's Coffee available, as well as the usual bottled water and soft > drinks. Check it out! > > And last but not least, the Auction...Over 100 quality items will be > auctioned off.... If it is anything like last year's event, there will > be more than what is shown on the CHRS web site now. Look at those > photos-there is truly something for everyone. Check it out! > > MC'ing this year's event will be Carter B. Smith, one of the most > illustrious names in Bay Area radio. > > The fun starts at 10:00AM this Saturday. Gates open at 9:30AM. Admission > is $5.00 at the gate, the best $5.00 you'll spend this summer. Check it > out! > > -Scott did you say 5.00???? WOW! Article: 337335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 05:19:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1152793167.614404.99720@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <17499-44B56726-469@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > I dont replace it with anything . If you look at a hundred radios 3 > might have asbestos . The asbestos radios dont have any different parts > than the other 97 radios . > > Asbestos is a known hazard May some of it be minor . I firmly stand on > safely removing it away from others reach . Most people remove hazards > from other peoples reach . I will never understand this ``cover up a > hazard with goo`` . Ken: It is not "covered", it is "encapsulated". Essentially, the fibers absorb, are bound, and are surrounded by material that will prevent them from becoming exposed or airborne in a harmful form. Asbestos is dangerous in a single mode. If that mode is prevented, it is quite a useful material. Much as many of the items under your sink or inside your medicine cabinet or in your garage. Such as: aspirin, pine-oil cleaner, anti-freeze, insect spray, weed killer, and so forth, too numerous to mention. As to removal, and all kidding aside, if you are using the proper techniques, the proper materials, and the proper disposal methods, more power to you. But short of having a relationship with an abatement contractor such that you have access to licenses, disposal sites and the various forms and such... Well, you get the picture. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 05:25:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1152793558.316987.318730@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1152733787.747332.285930@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Bill Sheppard wrote: > From Peter: > >...even when cut or abraided, the fibers > >tend to be bound to the binding materials >and therefore not friable. > > Aha. Makes sense. So even if copious amounts of brake dust are inhaled > (as in a brake shop), each individual dust particle is actually an > aggregate that is not carcinogenic like isolated asbestos fibers would > be. Right? > oc Something like that. The better term would be 'less' carcinogenic, as there is always a chance that the occasional few bare fibers of the proper size (< 0.4 microns) could become airborne without any attached aggregates. And it must also be noted that dust raised by compressed air of particles easily discerned by the naked eye does not fit that mode typically. But there are (very few) cases of brake-shop workers contracting asbestosis in several forms... but far less than ship workers, insulation workers, even asbestos abatement workers. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: ST tubes; RCA's mystery tube code Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:03:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3c2e17b86710d76a80c1bed70797b1d9@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Does anyone know when the transition from S tube bulbs to ST occurred? I would like to keep my radio collection somewhat accurate. And am I correct is assuming that apart from 01-A's and 80's, the S-bulbs always have a high temp filament? Also, for 40+ years I have wondered the purpose of the octagonal ring that surrounds the tube designation on RCA tubes- each ring has an opening and each ring has a short line sticking out from the ring; they are always in different places. Do any tube experts know the purpose? -Pete O AI2V Article: 337338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 13 Jul 2006 07:35:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1152801351.077923.305700@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: >Tom Adkins wrote: >Ebay item 320005998272 Would any particular part of this agglomeration of electronic detritus be of any use in repairing something useful? Jeeze. It looks like something that crawled out from behind the boiler. :-/ -- Steph weil New york Article: 337339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 13 Jul 2006 07:39:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1152801590.694496.58820@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Peter Wieck wrote: > p.s.: S.W.A.G .... If it ever worked, I am guessing that it made the > bulbs blink alternately. BTW, those amber balls are worth some bucks if > they are real. What's the deal with those marbles anyway? -- Steph Article: 337340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 07:44:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1152801877.541436.286330@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <44b2a69c$0$34575$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Ken G. wrote: > I remove every one i get and rid anyone else in the future of its > possible trouble . I was repairing a Bendix for a co-worker sometime last year. There was a pad of asbestos glued to the inside of the plate covering the bottom of the chassis. While debating what to do with it (on this forum), I took the plate outside and put it in a transparent bag. Shook the plate a bit and the clump of crap fell off and crumbled. Wiped the plate with a damp paper towel. Problem solved. -- Steph From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Sat Jul 15 10:00:45 EDT 2006 Article: 337341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: eico HF12A schematic? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:53:51 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <12bcnauqn6f5351@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <12bbp06nr6d41c5@corp.supernews.com> <44B6139A.94A7D269@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 29 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!sn-xt-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-post-sjc-02!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:337341 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44B6139A.94A7D269@earthlink.net... > David Axt wrote: >> >> Does anybody have a schematic to the Eico HF12A amp that the would like >> to >> share or know where I can get one? >> >> Thanks, >> David > > > Sams Photofact 448-7 has the HF12. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Thanks! How do I get a hold of a Sams Photofact? -David Article: 337342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "kb8xi" Subject: potentiometers Date: 13 Jul 2006 07:53:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I have an older (1937) table model Philco, with a bad volume pot. Is there a good way to restore this item. Getting the proper replacement, with the center tap, may be difficult. Article: 337343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:06:11 -0400 Message-ID: <1921d23911d858bd0ea8c3aa307d0c92@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1152801590.694496.58820@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> What's the deal with those marbles anyway? ***The "marbles" are used to stabilize the action of the velocity modulator; without them a type of reverse Barkhausen oscillation would occur in the transmission line to the klystron output probes. The marbles are Yttrium-iron-garnet spherical oscillators, phase locked through the constant-current feedback from the magnetron sampling detector- you would see this on the retrace of the planned position indicator if you shut off the blanking pulse. I hope this answers you question. -Pete O. AI2V Article: 337344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "barryh" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 08:12:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1152803544.501654.63780@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <17499-44B56726-469@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> Peter Wieck wrote: > As to removal, and all kidding aside, if you are using the proper > techniques, the proper materials, and the proper disposal methods, more > power to you. But short of having a relationship with an abatement > contractor such that you have access to licenses, disposal sites and > the various forms and such... Well, you get the picture. The two "bomber" Transoceanics I have, have the stuff lapping over the chassis shelf where the asbestos is particularly crumbly and flaky. I have not attempted to remove the chassis as yet. I just know it will fly around and who knows what's under the chassis in amongst the circuitry? (How do you get rid of that? Vaccum??? Air blast it outdoors?) Years ago, I used to make wooden models and Ambroid was popular. I haven't seen it around lately -- nor Duco cement -- in local stores, but, as I recall, it was amber/orange in color -- and I thought it was also a nitrocellulose product. At any rate, I wouldn't have thought it was particularly heat resistant. Offhand, I might have gone for epoxy as a sealant, but that would be difficult to work with. Anyway, Peter, it would be helpful if you gave us a step-by-step -- really down to the nits -- as to how you go about it. ... something like this -- and I'm second-guessing: 1. Keep radio in plastic bag. 2. Take outside and stay upwind of it -- check what's downwind 3. Put on filter mask (type/model?) 4. Carefully remove from bag, Close up bag and tape. 5. Remove chassis and set aside -- 6. Pick up any loose particles .... How? Tape? 7. Mix x parts Ambroid with y parts acetone. 8. Apply to asbestos -- (How -- brush? Pour it on and spread around?) 9. How to deal with edge overlap -- extra coats? 10. How many coats? 11. Allow X hrs/days to dry. 12. Wrap up and discard brush. As long as we've gone this far on this topic, might as well go a bit further. Another question: What happens after the Ambroid coating is set? Is it thin enough to soak into the asbestos, so that when you go to replace the chassis, put the screws through, etc. that, even if some bits come off they will be aggregated in the glue? I might think that the stuff is still fluffy under the coating whereby if a piece breaks off, particularly where it slops over the chassis shelf, "friable" particles could still be released. I noticed an ebay auction where the seller mentioned that the shelf was "covered in cardboard for personal safety." That didn't sound very confidence-inspiring. However, an extra step might be to glue some material over it. It would have to be thin -- maybe "fish paper" -- that gray stuff? Barry Article: 337345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: eico HF12A schematic? References: <12bbp06nr6d41c5@corp.supernews.com> <44B6139A.94A7D269@earthlink.net> <12bcnauqn6f5351@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:19:47 GMT David Axt wrote: > Thanks! How do I get a hold of a Sams Photofact? http://www.samswebsite.com/photofacts.html Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 337346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 13 Jul 2006 15:42:48 GMT Message-ID: References: <1152801590.694496.58820@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1921d23911d858bd0ea8c3aa307d0c92@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> "Pete_O" (stateasylum@private) writes: > What's the deal with those marbles anyway? > > ***The "marbles" are used to stabilize the action of the velocity > modulator; without them a type of reverse Barkhausen oscillation would > occur in the transmission line to the klystron output probes. The marbles > are Yttrium-iron-garnet spherical oscillators, phase locked through the > constant-current feedback from the magnetron sampling detector- you would > see this on the retrace of the planned position indicator if you shut off > the blanking pulse. I hope this answers you question. -Pete O. AI2V > I thought it was something simple, like the builder simply lost his marbles. Michael Article: 337347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: potentiometers Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:50:11 -0400 Message-ID: I have nearly any value pot you could need, including the tapped ones! Mine are aftermarket types mostly, like Centralab, IRC, Clarostat or Mallory, but the values and the install would be the same. Philco had an extention shaft in many sets so coupling to that is a little different. Also, any pots with bad switches can be sent here and I often have an exact match for the switch. Sometimes I can install new elements in old pots, but that is limited. Mark Oppat The "King of Controls" www.oldradioparts.net "kb8xi" wrote in message news:1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > I have an older (1937) table model Philco, with a bad volume pot. Is > there a good way to restore this item. Getting the proper replacement, > with the center tap, may be difficult. > > Article: 337348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:53:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3000-44B66C94-503@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152793167.614404.99720@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> >From Peter: >It is not "covered", it is "encapsulated". >Essentially, the fibers absorb, are bound, >and are surrounded by material that will >prevent them from becoming exposed or >airborne in a harmful form. I'm showin' my ignirance again here, but when the "encapsulating" agent has soaked into the asbestos matting and cured solid, does that not defeat the heat-insulating property of the matting? Seems like the preferred method would be to "envelope" rather than "encapsulate". Maybe an envelope of metalized mylar or similar 'skin' to seal the stuff in? oc Article: 337349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: FA: Silvertone 1955 wrong speaker Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:11:12 -0400 Message-ID: Not mine, but this is that top of line Silvertone I've mentioned here before that has the fully variable mechanical IF, but the speaker has been changed to a PM. Matching model is the 1905, different cabinet. http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1936-SILVERTONE-TOMBSTONE-RADIO-MODEL-1955_W0QQitemZ230007322121QQihZ013QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem If you have some good electrodynamic 8" speakers this might be a good set for ya, and could go real cheap. Mark Oppat Article: 337350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 13 Jul 2006 09:29:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1152808153.428963.159220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Pete_O wrote: > I hope this answers you question. -Pete O. AI2V Uhh....huhhh........ ^_^;; steph Article: 337351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: 13 Jul 2006 09:31:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> http://www.albundy.net/episodes/season_5/02/5020001.jpg Shown in an episode of the old "Married With Children" sit-com. Minutes after that shot, it gets destroyed by Al Bundy with a basebal bat. Anyone recognize this thing, or was it just a cardboard prop? -- Steph Weil New York Article: 337352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Dial Covers Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 12:52:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <12436-44B5A512-1231@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:42:42 -0600, goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote: >John B have you figured out Zenith console square domed covers ? I made >one out of thick plastic that turned out perfect but i will be damned if >i can get it to work again . Must have been luck ? I have done some square domed ones, not sure if they are what you are talking about. I find that thin plastic does not work well for square or rectangular covers as it creases in the corners. Thick plastic does much better. I stock 0.020" through 0.090" plastic. The thicker ones are a bit touchy with regard to bubbling. I think that there might be some moisture trapped in the material and it vaporizes when heated. I am experimenting with a process to remove the moisture, if it is there. Toss one at me and I will see what I can do. John Reproduction dialcovers at www.anatekcorp.com/dialcovers/dialcovers.htm Article: 337353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:05:17 -0700 Message-ID: Reminds me of the "robots" that I made for my boys when they were small. Basically a bunch of electromechanical junk lashed together with wire and hot glue. Anybody know who they are referring to here? ------------- The gentleman that owns this piece of vintage radio equipment has been liquidating his collection with us here on eBay for the past 5 months. He is an avid collector and is well known as a regular writer for 3 large, well-known Antique Radio and Electronic magazines. ------------- Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 337354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: FA: Silvertone 1955 wrong speaker Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:27:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: Not mine, but this is that top of line Silvertone I've mentioned here before **They are great sounding, no question about that. I went nuts with mine for a long time- I forget why but the B+ was too high in the oscillator- that caused terrible RF harmonic distortion and horrible dial accuracy with far more images than usual. A good reason to have a quality o'scope. -Pete O. AI2V Article: 337355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:43:47 GMT Looks like it says "LXI Series"...which, if memory serves, was a Sears brand. The next pic shows a radio that looks like it has a different top. Maybe they took a shot of a real radio and then destroyed a prop? That was such an amazingly pointless show... William Article: 337356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:04:08 GMT "William R. Walsh" wrote: > > Looks like it says "LXI Series"...which, if memory serves, was a Sears > brand. The next pic shows a radio that looks like it has a different top. > Maybe they took a shot of a real radio and then destroyed a prop? > > That was such an amazingly pointless show... > > William Now, now, it wasn't pointless. It showed that some white trash could move into a cheap track house, and just how pathetic an ex jock could become. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 337357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Message-ID: <5%vtg.42495$Zo4.6308@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:09:05 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net... > > Now, now, it wasn't pointless. It showed that some white trash could > move into a cheap track house, and just how pathetic an ex jock could > become. > > What's a "track house"? Never heard of that before. jim menning Article: 337358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Reeves" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: 13 Jul 2006 11:57:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1152817020.648867.240400@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net... > > > > Now, now, it wasn't pointless. It showed that some white trash could > > move into a cheap track house, and just how pathetic an ex jock could > > become. > > > > > > > What's a "track house"? Never heard of that before. > > jim menning Hi Jim, I think you are taking a poke at his spelling? But just in case you really wanted to know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tract_housing Regards, Steven Reeves Article: 337359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net> <5%vtg.42495$Zo4.6308@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1152817020.648867.240400@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:58:47 GMT "Steve Reeves" wrote in message news:1152817020.648867.240400@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > jim menning wrote: >> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message >> news:44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net... >> > >> > Now, now, it wasn't pointless. It showed that some white trash could >> > move into a cheap track house, and just how pathetic an ex jock could >> > become. >> > >> > >> >> >> What's a "track house"? Never heard of that before. >> >> jim menning > > Hi Jim, > I think you are taking a poke at his spelling? > But just in case you really wanted to know > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tract_housing > Regards, > Steven Reeves > I wasn't poking at him, I thought I was missing a reference to something that may have been a Southern term. "Tract house" I understand, and was probably what he meant. Thanks. jim menning Article: 337360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 12:31:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1152819116.743349.326240@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1152793167.614404.99720@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Bill Sheppard wrote: > I'm showin' my ignirance again here, Not really, these are not very intuitive terms, but they are accurate. but when the "encapsulating" agent > has soaked into the asbestos matting and cured solid, does that not > defeat the heat-insulating property of the matting? > Seems like the preferred method would be to "envelope" > rather than "encapsulate". Maybe an envelope of metalized mylar or > similar 'skin' to seal the stuff in? > oc Encapsulation: Concrete is an "encapsulation" of several types of aggregate in a cement paste, with the cement being ~15% by-volume of the total, excluding the water. Sand and gravel (inert, non-binding materials) make up the remaining 85%. The nature of concrete becomes a combination of the materials included within it. Envelope: A cute birthday card such as one would give one's SO is "enveloped" in an outer covering, which will often equal in volume exceed by area the enclosed contents. And the nature of the contents is unchanged should the external coating be removed, and the nature of the envelope is not affected by its contents. Now that we have defined-by-illustration the intent, the Ambroid Cement *CUT 50% with acetone* is the "cement paste" that then binds the aggregate (asbestos fibers). Ambroid is formulated to resist heat, hot liquids and hot solvents (it is designed to resist a combination of hot methanol, nitromethane and castor-oil, after all) without failure. Asbestos fibers are quite absorbent as typically formulated in this application, so the thinned glue will penetrate well. In the case of the asbestos, the actual by-volume of material added will be considerably less than 15% when cured, but the aggregate will be fully encapsulated. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 12:44:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1152819885.931645.210430@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <17499-44B56726-469@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> barryh wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > > As to removal, and all kidding aside, if you are using the proper > > techniques, the proper materials, and the proper disposal methods, more > > power to you. But short of having a relationship with an abatement > > contractor such that you have access to licenses, disposal sites and > > the various forms and such... Well, you get the picture. > > > The two "bomber" Transoceanics I have, have the stuff lapping over the > chassis shelf where the asbestos is particularly crumbly and flaky. I > have not attempted to remove the chassis as yet. I just know it will > fly around and who knows what's under the chassis in amongst the > circuitry? (How do you get rid of that? Vaccum??? Air blast it > outdoors?) > > Years ago, I used to make wooden models and Ambroid was popular. I > haven't seen it around lately -- nor Duco cement -- in local stores, > but, as I recall, it was amber/orange in color -- and I thought it was > also a nitrocellulose product. At any rate, I wouldn't have thought it > was particularly heat resistant. Offhand, I might have gone for epoxy > as a sealant, but that would be difficult to work with. > > Anyway, Peter, it would be helpful if you gave us a step-by-step -- > really down to the nits -- as to how you go about it. ... something > like this -- and I'm second-guessing: > > 1. Keep radio in plastic bag. > 2. Take outside and stay upwind of it -- check what's downwind > 3. Put on filter mask (type/model?) > 4. Carefully remove from bag, Close up bag and tape. > 5. Remove chassis and set aside -- > 6. Pick up any loose particles .... How? Tape? > 7. Mix x parts Ambroid with y parts acetone. > 8. Apply to asbestos -- (How -- brush? Pour it on and spread around?) > 9. How to deal with edge overlap -- extra coats? > 10. How many coats? > 11. Allow X hrs/days to dry. > 12. Wrap up and discard brush. > > As long as we've gone this far on this topic, might as well go a bit > further. > > Another question: What happens after the Ambroid coating is set? Is > it thin enough to soak into the asbestos, so that when you go to > replace the chassis, put the screws through, etc. that, even if some > bits come off they will be aggregated in the glue? I might think that > the stuff is still fluffy under the coating whereby if a piece breaks > off, particularly where it slops over the chassis shelf, "friable" > particles could still be released. > > I noticed an ebay auction where the seller mentioned that the shelf was > "covered in cardboard for personal safety." That didn't sound very > confidence-inspiring. However, an extra step might be to glue some > material over it. It would have to be thin -- maybe "fish paper" -- > that gray stuff? > > Barry http://www.geocities.com/wa2ise/radios/repair.htm gives a very slightly edited version of my technique. But to clarify: My preference towards Ambroid is that it is formulated against heat and solvents when-cured. It is also commonly available. Our local Home Depot stocks it, for instance. The color helps identify to any future owner that your representation is accurate* (see below). I mix up the liquid and pour it over the mat, then using a small, soft brush spread it around the corners, edges and any cracks so as to be sure to soak through. The first application is poured until the surface remains shiny and stops soaking. THEN it is allowed to cure. Then the second application (usually much lighter), then cure again. *Leave a note in the radio somewhere stating what you have done (see above). Covering over asbestos does two (bad) things: 1. It introduces a material that is fundamentally different in nature >from the asbestos. 2. It does nothing to prevent accidental mechanical disturbance of the asbestos, or to prevent problems if disturbed. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 13:54:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1152824094.079501.140940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <44b2a69c$0$34575$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Carter, k8vt wrote: > "Zonolite" insulation (looks a little like popcorn), DO NOT TOUCH IT !!! > > This is an "expanded" form of a mineral that is a great insulator but > also contained a lot of asbestos. It was used extensively as a home > insulation in the 50s-60s-70s. > > This stuff is *unbelievably* NASTY. Do not take my word for this but > rather refer to the following book: > > "An Air That Kills" by Andrew Schneider, call number 363.1791 S > There is a lot of information out there, this Zonolite thing blew up in just the past couple of years. Do a Google news search on it, or the NY Times, or look at EPA.gov for fact sheets. Note there was also a lot of expanded mica (vermiculite) used in potting mixes :-o Most of the Zonolite came from Libby, MT where the whole town practically has lung disease. Regarding Peter's comment on removing the asbestos - and I'm not advocating leaving or removing here - you don't need abatement contractors, special disposal sites or anything like that. Small amounts like you would find in a radio can be disposed of in the trash by double bagging and labeling ASBESTOS. This is allowed under Federal law for residences, up to 35 sq. ft. of material I think. If you are a business, different story. Tox Article: 337363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 13 Jul 2006 14:17:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1152825477.354467.91490@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Stephanie Weil wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > p.s.: S.W.A.G .... If it ever worked, I am guessing that it made the > > bulbs blink alternately. BTW, those amber balls are worth some bucks if > > they are real. > > What's the deal with those marbles anyway? > > -- > Steph Not mere glass marbles, but *AMBER* marbles... The Greek name for Amber is "elektron", the root of electricity. Amber has always had an associate with static electricity and has many unusual properties. At one time, it was thought to be a precursor to the "philosopher's stone" for this reason. If those are real amber marbles, intact and contain inclusions, they are worth something. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 15 10:00:48 EDT 2006 Article: 337364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: ST tubes; RCA's mystery tube code Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:41:57 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3c2e17b86710d76a80c1bed70797b1d9@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-653.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:337364 Hi, Pete asked: >Does anyone know when the transition from S tube bulbs to ST occurred? I >would like to keep my radio collection somewhat accurate. And am I >correct is assuming that apart from 01-A's and 80's, the S-bulbs always >have a high temp filament? 1932. I don't quite follow the other question. > >Also, for 40+ years I have wondered the purpose of the octagonal ring that >surrounds the tube designation on RCA tubes- each ring has an opening and >each ring has a short line sticking out from the ring; they are always in >different places. Do any tube experts know the purpose? Date and factory code. The details were available in a handout at an AWA meet years ago, by Bro. Pat Dowd, and may still be available >from the Tube Collectors Assoc., www.tubecollectors.org Alan Article: 337365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: 13 Jul 2006 15:05:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1152828340.175760.250330@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> The 'next pic shows a radio that looks like it has a different top' is probably a result of "Take 2" [or 3 or 4 or 5] since I doubt they would have a bunch of identical radios to smash. Neil S. William R. Walsh wrote: > Looks like it says "LXI Series"...which, if memory serves, was a Sears > brand. The next pic shows a radio that looks like it has a different top. > Maybe they took a shot of a real radio and then destroyed a prop? > > That was such an amazingly pointless show... > > William Article: 337366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Solomon Subject: Re: Low cost SMD Oven for making SMD samples and Prototypes Message-ID: References: <1152701893.605620.41090@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:22:27 GMT On 12 Jul 2006 03:58:13 -0700, "erica" wrote: >This SMD Oven Controller (SMDOC-01) is designed to use with a toaster >oven. It provide a low cost solution for making SMD prototypes and >samples. The temperature profile is similar to the expensive industrial >SMD oven provided. So, the sample quality is as good as the industrial >oven can do. It is capable for packages including 0402, BGA, QFP, SOP, >SSOP, TSSOP, SOT, etc. It is an indispensable tool for R&D and making >samples. It is very suitable for electronic companies, laboratories, >universities and hobbyists. SMD Oven Controller (SMDOC-01) is only >US$206, including oven (PCB size is large up to 19 x 17cm) is US$283. >Voltage 220V, 8A fused. > >Features: >1.Small, low price, performance comparable to expensive industrial SMD >oven. >2.Capable for any SMD packages. An indispensable tool for R&D, sample >making and small batch production. >3.No hand soldering. No painful. No difficult. Save time. >4.Connectable to PC via RS232 for profile setup and temperature >monitor. It can also operate independently without PC. >5.Simple to use. LEDs indication for each stage of pre-heat, soak, >reflow and cooling. Alarm and power cut off after finished. > > >Product information : http://www.auto-system.com >Please send me email : erica@auto-system.com for any inquiry or order. Hell, just use a heat gun. Works fine if you watch what you're doing! Article: 337367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jj" Subject: philips capella 643 Date: 13 Jul 2006 16:20:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1152832856.111094.253240@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I have a Philips Capella 643 in near mint condition, and wondering if there is any interest in a buyer. You can e-mail me @ jeffrey_j6@yahoo.com Article: 337368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net> <5%vtg.42495$Zo4.6308@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:22:53 GMT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020201010309040400030209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jim menning wrote: >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message >news:44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net... > > >> Now, now, it wasn't pointless. It showed that some white trash could >>move into a cheap track house, and just how pathetic an ex jock could >>become. >> >> >> >> > > >What's a "track house"? Never heard of that before. > >jim menning > > > > The rail road companies used them for the track crew. Bill K7NOM --------------020201010309040400030209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jim menning wrote:
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--------------020201010309040400030209-- Article: 337369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: ST tubes; RCA's mystery tube code Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <5dad455648d5ab6117dafa056302f253@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <3c2e17b86710d76a80c1bed70797b1d9@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> And am I >correct is assuming that apart from 01-A's and 80's, the S-bulbs always have a high temp filament? 1932. I don't quite follow the other question. **Tnx for the info, Alan. The other part of the question was from an observation- that the S-bulb tube filaments glow very bright near-white(like an 01-A) while the same type tube in the ST bulb have filaments that glow the usual reddish-orange. Maybe I'm the only one who noticed??? -Pete Article: 337370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:40:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3000-44B6DA07-556@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152819116.743349.326240@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> >From Peter: >Asbestos fibers are quite absorbent.... so >the thinned glue will penetrate well. In >the case of the asbestos, the actual >by-volume of material added will be >considerably less than 15% when cured, >but the aggregate will be fully >encapsulated. Understood. But again the question (to repeat): When the ambroid has soaked into the asbestos matting and cured, does the aggregate become more heat-conductive and lose insulating efficiency? Or does its insulating efficiency remain unchanged from that of the the raw asbestos? Take brake linings which are (were) an asbestos-containing aggregate. Their primary design criterion is not to insulate, but to operate at high temperatures without mechanically degrading. oc Article: 337371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: eico HF12A schematic? Message-ID: <44b6e28e.7056718@news-server> References: <12bbp06nr6d41c5@corp.supernews.com> <44B6139A.94A7D269@earthlink.net> <12bcnauqn6f5351@corp.supernews.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:21:32 GMT On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:53:51 -0700, "David Axt" wrote: > >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message >news:44B6139A.94A7D269@earthlink.net... >> David Axt wrote: >>> >>> Does anybody have a schematic to the Eico HF12A amp that the would like >>> to >>> share or know where I can get one? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> David >> >> >> Sams Photofact 448-7 has the HF12. >> >> >> -- >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >> prove it. >> Member of DAV #85. >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > >Thanks! How do I get a hold of a Sams Photofact? Schematic is online at The EICO site: http://users.erols.com/fiddler.interport/EICO.HTM > >-David > > Article: 337372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 13 Jul 2006 18:16:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1152839783.422407.58070@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1152819116.743349.326240@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Bill Sheppard wrote: > From Peter: > >Asbestos fibers are quite absorbent.... so >the thinned glue will > penetrate well. In > >the case of the asbestos, the actual > >by-volume of material added will be > >considerably less than 15% when cured, > >but the aggregate will be fully > >encapsulated. > > Understood. But again the question (to repeat): When the ambroid has > soaked into the asbestos matting and cured, does the aggregate become > more heat-conductive and lose insulating efficiency? Or does its > insulating efficiency remain unchanged from that of the the raw > asbestos? > > Take brake linings which are (were) an asbestos-containing aggregate. > Their primary design criterion is not to insulate, but to operate at > high temperatures without mechanically degrading. > oc Bill: Point is that "insulation" characteristics and "high temperature" characteristics are quite similar (but emphatically not identical). Ambroid *does* resist high temperatures, not nearly as well as asbestos, but certainly better than similar formulations made without that requirement. So, the short answer is that the behavior of the asbestos *will* be reduced somewhat over the bare material, but at the same time, the film-strength of the material will be greatly enhanced. So, the ultimate performance as insulation will likely be very similar after treatment as before. But in terms of pure *fire* protection, plain asbestos will be best. Obviously. Against warping, charring or similar, it will be a close-run thing. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: CC-AWA Summer Swap meet Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:40:27 GMT The CC-AWA Summer Swap meet is Saturday July 22 in Valdez, NC. You can find all the details and driving directions on the CC-AWA web page at; http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Summer.html As with ALL of our Saturday swap meets, admission is FREE. It's just $5 for vendor setup. Hope to see ya there. Article: 337374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: any of you californians going to this? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:54:10 -0400 Message-ID: <12be1qjhugao217@corp.supernews.com> References: <1152747221.592329.85840@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1152784416.780678.81350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1152784416.780678.81350@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >> Eddie Brimer wrote: >> > http://www.californiahistoricalradio.com/photos66.html > > Man, I wish I lived in California! And I wish I had the money to buy > some of these! You'd need it, radios and phonos are worth twice as much there because everything is so new. Look at LA of the early 1930's- barely a city. John H. From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 15 10:00:49 EDT 2006 Article: 337375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: ST tubes; RCA's mystery tube code Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:43:25 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <3c2e17b86710d76a80c1bed70797b1d9@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <5dad455648d5ab6117dafa056302f253@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-665.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:337375 Hi, >**Tnx for the info, Alan. The other part of the question was from an >observation- that the S-bulb tube filaments glow very bright >near-white(like an 01-A) while the same type tube in the ST bulb have >filaments that glow the usual reddish-orange. Maybe I'm the only one who >noticed??? -Pete There were developments in cathode insulators (for faster warmup) going on about that time, as AC tubes were still relatively new, so quite possibly the newer heaters ran at a lower temperature. Alan Article: 337376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gerald D. Pine" Subject: Stewart-Warner lowboy console cabinet needs to be matched to radio Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:18:13 -0700 Message-ID: I picked up a nice little lowboy radio today (at least I thought that was what I was picking up). It turned out to be just the cabinet. the console is about the size of a small night stand with a fold down cover over the radio face and two lower drawers for storage. As near as I can tell it probably contained either a Stewart-Warner 1105 or a Stewart-Warner 1154. Now for a long shot. Is there by chance anyone out there who might have the chassis for one of these models without a cabinet. I'd be happy to work out a deal either way so that one of us ended up with both the chassis and the cabinet. If I get a positive response to this post, I'm also going to buy a lottery ticket. Thanks. Gerald -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 337377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:57:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Stephanie Weil wrote: > http://www.albundy.net/episodes/season_5/02/5020001.jpg > > Shown in an episode of the old "Married With Children" sit-com. > > Minutes after that shot, it gets destroyed by Al Bundy with a basebal > bat. > > Anyone recognize this thing, or was it just a cardboard prop? > > -- > Steph Weil > New York > Genuine radio, Sears Roebuck, early to mid-1980s. Probably manufactured for sears by Sanyo. "Married with Children" was the first show ever aired on Fox, and its only genuine hit for a long, long time. It ran longer on that network than any other show except "The Simpsons" and "America's Most Wanted". It's a sleazy, pointless show, but compared to the crap that Fox runs now, it is high art. -Scott Article: 337378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radiogrambloke" Subject: Various Valves For Sale and Record Stylus Date: 13 Jul 2006 22:25:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1152854710.212639.314990@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hi , If your looking for a particular valve,record stylus or perhaps a radio, you may even would like one repaired , restored either mantle, wooden upright , radiogram or even a gramophone. Please feel free to contact me with your enquiry. Kind Regards Pete The Radio-Gram Bloke Article: 337379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "kb8xi" Subject: Re: potentiometers Date: 13 Jul 2006 22:37:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1152855427.565773.102730@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> My thanks to all who replied to my post. I decided to carefully clean the pot, using a soft cloth on the carbon surface, and cleaned all contact surfaces of dirt, etc. I also reset the the contact spring distances. The regenerated pot now works well on an analog ohm meter, with no gaps or variations, and works perfectly in the radio a 1937 table model Philco, Model No. 37-630), which has been in our family since being originally purchased by my grandfather. I was also able to rejuvenate the original tuning meter used in this model. One note for the Mark Oppat response...I had already on hand a center tapped replacement pot, but it did not have the shaft that mated with the original Philco extension shaft mentioned (the pot was mounted on the rear chassis on the 1937 Philco sets), and would have required extensive machining of the supplied shaft. Hence the rebuilding. A note for those working on the 1937 Philcos...the sub chassis on the volume control end, must be disconnected from the main chassis ( 7 self taping screws), before you can remove and disconnect the volume control. Roland Burgan, KB8XI Mark Oppat wrote: > I have nearly any value pot you could need, including the tapped ones! Mine > are aftermarket types mostly, like Centralab, IRC, Clarostat or Mallory, > but the values and the install would be the same. Philco had an extention > shaft in many sets so coupling to that is a little different. > > Also, any pots with bad switches can be sent here and I often have an exact > match for the switch. Sometimes I can install new elements in old pots, > but that is limited. > > Mark Oppat > The "King of Controls" > www.oldradioparts.net > > > "kb8xi" wrote in message > news:1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > I have an older (1937) table model Philco, with a bad volume pot. Is > > there a good way to restore this item. Getting the proper replacement, > > with the center tap, may be difficult. > > > > Article: 337380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "barryh" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 14 Jul 2006 01:15:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1152864911.362813.42380@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152819116.743349.326240@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Point is that "insulation" characteristics and "high temperature" > characteristics are quite similar (but emphatically not identical). > Ambroid *does* resist high temperatures, not nearly as well as > asbestos, but certainly better than similar formulations made without > that requirement. So, the short answer is that the behavior of the > asbestos *will* be reduced somewhat over the bare material, but at the > same time, the film-strength of the material will be greatly enhanced. > So, the ultimate performance as insulation will likely be very similar > after treatment as before. But in terms of pure *fire* protection, > plain asbestos will be best. Obviously. Against warping, charring or > similar, it will be a close-run thing. > Hi Peter (and list) Many thanks for the details. It would be nice if this were all published on a web site or two. Thinking about it further, it seems there is an inconsistency in the manufacturers' application of asbestos (or at least Zenith's) and I wonder if you or someone could explain. The 7G's have the coating and maybe some 8G's -- I don't recall. Plus, this thread started with someone asking about a wooden Emerson. Apparently, the asbestos under the chassis was a "sometimes" thing from the late 30's through maybe early 50's. Just sorting out the Transoceanics: The 7G's had hot-running rectifier tubes as did the 8G's, though the later ones used the minature version. Starting with the G-500's, they went to selenium rectifiers. Otherwise, all the other tubes were cool running 1.5 volt filament types, whether locktal or miniature. The 8G's had the highest tube count (8). As far as under-chassis components are concerned, perhaps they moved from wax covered caps to molded plastic (black beauties) over that early time frame. If the concern were either heat/warpage and/or possible fire prevention, what caused them to use asbestos earlier, then discontinue using it -- whereby most of the 8G's and all later models (G-500, H-500 and (x)-600's) just have raw wood? In other words, they apparently stopped using it in/around 1948, but I don't see much difference in heat/fire factors between the models going forward. I doubt if the hazards of asbestos were identified by then -- or were they? Barry Article: 337381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jtoth624@gmail.com Subject: FA: VINTAGE IMPERIAL PARTY-TIME SOLID STATE RECORD PLAYER Date: 14 Jul 2006 03:15:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1152872139.997155.177840@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> http://tinyurl.com/pgyvg Article: 337382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: potentiometers Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:44:37 GMT Shoot mark Oppat an email, moppat at comcast dot net. He has a huge inventory of pots and can probably fix you up with whatever you need. Larry Fowkes "kb8xi" wrote in message news:1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > I have an older (1937) table model Philco, with a bad volume pot. Is > there a good way to restore this item. Getting the proper replacement, > with the center tap, may be difficult. > Article: 337383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: potentiometers Message-ID: <1CKtg.171853$F_3.160213@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:46:21 GMT Oops, guess I should read the replys before posting. "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:pAKtg.171852$F_3.131350@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > Shoot mark Oppat an email, moppat at comcast dot net. He has a huge > inventory of pots and can probably fix you up with whatever you need. > > Larry Fowkes > > > "kb8xi" wrote in message > news:1152802431.447484.95110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > I have an older (1937) table model Philco, with a bad volume pot. Is > > there a good way to restore this item. Getting the proper replacement, > > with the center tap, may be difficult. > > > > Article: 337384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: 14 Jul 2006 04:41:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1152877276.351298.248240@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Now, now, it wasn't pointless. It showed that some white trash could > move into a cheap track house, and just how pathetic an ex jock could > become. >Central Florida And made millionaires out of a bunch of 5th-rate actors... if they were intelligent enough to hold onto it. Just like our politicians, we get exactly the television we deserve. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: asbestos in Emerson....remove it? Date: 14 Jul 2006 05:29:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1152880147.673613.278350@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1152819116.743349.326240@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> barryh wrote: I doubt if the > hazards of asbestos were identified by then -- or were they? > > Barry "White Lung Disease" has been known and indentified for as long as asbestos has been mined. The secondary effects started to be noticed and identified shortly after WW-I, and more specifically after WW-II, and in the 50s first amongst construction workers spraying fire-proofing on steel buildings. So, yes, they were. Did that concern drill down to the consumer level? Not hardly as one could still purchase asbestos-based furnace-cement OTC at any hardware store into the 70s. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:29:57 -0500 Message-ID: <12bf6u2jkcfg287@corp.supernews.com> References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Too bad Steph Weil's legitimate question gets bombarded with so many frivolous and inane answers. Everyone's a comedian. After reading the stupid replies I wonder how could their author's possibly call "All In The Family" "pointless." Clearly the respondents have no idea what is "pointless" and what is valid. Sorry, Steph...your genuine question brought out the morons and few who can help. Smokey P.S. By the way, scholars consider "Married With Children" a "social satire" much like "All In The Family." Certainly not up to the high standards of the esteemed respondents to this thread. Perhaps they're happier now with their survival shows and phoney "idol" contests. "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://www.albundy.net/episodes/season_5/02/5020001.jpg > > Shown in an episode of the old "Married With Children" sit-com. > > Minutes after that shot, it gets destroyed by Al Bundy with a basebal > bat. > > Anyone recognize this thing, or was it just a cardboard prop? > > -- > Steph Weil > New York > Article: 337387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: 14 Jul 2006 06:28:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1152883733.803656.230820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: . > > Like they say, laughter is the best medicine! No problem with that. The comment was generic vs. judgemental... really. H.L. Menken applies: Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44B68AED.8A2DE169@earthlink.net> <1152877276.351298.248240@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44B797B8.CD6CB9AB@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 06:30:40 -0700 Message-ID: > Just like our politicians, we get exactly the television we deserve. I'm not sure who "we" are, but plenty of terrific TV series (Brisco County, The Tick) have been dropped because the audience was (perceived) not to be large enough, or the demographics were wrong. > Come on, Peter. Not everyone wants ballet and opera on TV, or even > sports. Sometimes you need really stupid TV to let you forget what a > bastard of a day you just had, and you can thank God that you weren't > part of the Bundy clan. The dog was the smartest character on the show, > and the rest of the characters couldn't scrape together 100 IQ points > total, even if it was an open book test. It was intended to be mindless > escapism, and when you put that up against countless lawyer and > medical drama TV show clones, it was the only reason to turn the TV > on some nights. I disagree. I watched two episodes of "Married... With Children" and was impressed with the sharpness of the writing and the show's overall nastiness. I would not consider it mindless. Article: 337389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: 14 Jul 2006 08:22:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1152890558.345301.54780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Stephanie Weil wrote: > http://www.albundy.net/episodes/season_5/02/5020001.jpg > > Shown in an episode of the old "Married With Children" sit-com. > > Minutes after that shot, it gets destroyed by Al Bundy with a basebal > bat. > > Anyone recognize this thing, or was it just a cardboard prop? > > -- > Steph Weil > New York POS (Piece Of Shxt) radio. Bundy should have used something much larger to destroy it. Article: 337390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Compare shipping carriers around the World Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:52:29 -0500 Message-ID: <26664-44B7BDBD-1141@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> www.redroller.com/shippingcarrier cuhulin Article: 337391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Compare shipping carriers around the World Date: 14 Jul 2006 09:13:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1152893582.742068.210610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <26664-44B7BDBD-1141@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > www.redroller.com/shippingcarrier > cuhulin Thank you! Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Compare shipping carriers around the World References: <26664-44B7BDBD-1141@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:26:47 -0400 This url doesn't work for me??? Cannot find. Ken cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > www.redroller.com/shippingcarrier > cuhulin > Article: 337393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: any of you californians going to this? Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <26665-44B7C5AF-232@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <12be1qjhugao217@corp.supernews.com> I own an old Bogalusa wind up phonograph.I think it dates back to before World War Two,certainly not much later than that.I guess I hope it is the only one in existence in the World.That would make it rare as hens teeth. cuhulin Article: 337394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:45:36 -0600 Message-ID: <12807-44B7CA30-1606@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152890558.345301.54780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I agree the radio was some sort of cheap made thing .. but hay it was nicer than that couch . About the M.W.Children show and other shows like it . I see many ``guys , males`` that cant do comedy or are serious all the time who cant sit down and enjoy silliness , comedy .. to much millitary ? Its ok but to bad . I watched that show and its reruns many times . It was funny and fun . I see a new FOX show coming called ``Till death`` that reminds me of M.W.C. it looks like it will be fun too . Article: 337395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gerald D. Pine" Subject: Stewart-Warner nightstand (french commode style??) cabinet for 1105 or 1154 chassis Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:14:13 -0700 Message-ID: Thought I'd posted this before, but don't see my post, so here goes again. I picked up a cabinet that has had a Stewart-Warner radio in it at one time and now is empty. Still has nice wooden radio face, metal escutcheon and grill cloth (hole in one side). What I'd like to do is to reunite the cabinet and an orphan chassis that someone else has. I know it's a long shot, but just in case ... The cabinet is the size and form factor of a night stand with a fold down front that covers the radio face and two drawers below the radio. I'm only guessing as to the model based on descriptions in the fifth edition of the "Collectors Guide to Antique Radios" by John Slusser et al. The cabinet description seems a good match to Stewart-Warner models 1105 and 1154. Unfortunately, there are no pictures for these models, so I could be way off. But I haven't found any other models that sound even close to the cabinet description. Here's the deal. If there's anyone out there who happens to have or to run into a chassis without a cabinet or a chassis with a hopeless cabinet for one of these models, I'd love to either acquire the chassis or to let someone else acquire the cabinet to make a complete unit. My cabinet is not perfect, but I'd say it's in generally good condition. Let me know if you happen to have one of these chassis that needs a cabinet. Gerald -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 337396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Attention Eastern Ohio Philco Phanatics Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:47:49 -0400 Message-ID: <12bfm67bk8ai306@corp.supernews.com> Erie/Cleveland area, I've camped near here on cross country trips- http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-MODEL-16B-60-NEEDS-HELP_W0QQitemZ160007185060QQihZ006 John H. Article: 337397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: It's a miracle it arrived intact Date: 14 Jul 2006 10:59:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1152899973.969042.93370@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> I bought a Radio Craftsmen 800 FM/AM tubed tuner/preamp form *bay (item #200002314647). It arrived today in an undersized apple box with no cushion on the bottom, no cushion on the face, and some newspaper stuffed around the sides. The face was right against the box and and the back had an L bracket that was pushed thru the box. So far I don't see any shipping damage, but I don't know how. At least the chrome looks like it will mostly polish clean. I intend to use the FM tuner with my Capehart console. I may take the tuner out of its cabinet and show off the chrome. On a happier related note, Syl's rebuilt cartridge arrived today. Can't wait to try it on the Capehart. Article: 337398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Attention Eastern Ohio Philco Phanatics Date: 14 Jul 2006 11:02:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1152900144.667790.290040@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <12bfm67bk8ai306@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > Erie/Cleveland area, I've camped near here on cross country trips- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-MODEL-16B-60-NEEDS-HELP_W0QQitemZ160007185060QQihZ006 > > John H. I can understand why he doesn't want to ship it. I've wanted to sell my 16B but every time I think about shipping it I change my mind. Probably 3 boxes to do it right. Article: 337399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Attention Eastern Ohio Philco Phanatics Date: 14 Jul 2006 12:25:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1152905111.068312.263110@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <12bfm67bk8ai306@corp.supernews.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > Hagstar wrote: > > Erie/Cleveland area, I've camped near here on cross country trips- > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-MODEL-16B-60-NEEDS-HELP_W0QQitemZ160007185060QQihZ006 > > > > John H. > I can understand why he doesn't want to ship it. I've wanted to sell my > 16B but every time I think about shipping it I change my mind. Probably > 3 boxes to do it right. Four. Chassis doubled. Speaker in a single box, well padded. Cabinet doubled. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 337400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "shoppa@trailing-edge.com" Subject: Re: It's a miracle it arrived intact Date: 14 Jul 2006 12:31:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1152905493.928247.287640@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1152899973.969042.93370@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > I bought a Radio Craftsmen 800 FM/AM tubed tuner/preamp form *bay (item > #200002314647). It arrived today in an undersized apple box with no > cushion on the bottom, no cushion on the face, and some newspaper > stuffed around the sides. The face was right against the box and and > the back had an L bracket that was pushed thru the box. So far I don't > see any shipping damage, but I don't know how. At least the chrome > looks like it will mostly polish clean. Yeah, sometimes I buy stuff that happens to arrive with no damage despite incompetent packing too. For better or worse, sometimes the sellers really do believe that a box full of peanuts is appropriate packaging for something with a dozen tubes and some really heavy power transformers on a sheet metal chassis. Best case, the chassis gets bent up and a couple tubes broke. Worst case, the chassis manages to eat a hole in the side of the box and the box arrives empty (despite the fact that I paid for 30 or 40 or more pounds of shipping!) > I intend to use the FM tuner with my Capehart console. I may take the > tuner out of its cabinet and show off the chrome. On a happier related > note, Syl's rebuilt cartridge arrived today. Can't wait to try it on > the Capehart. Cool! Tim. Article: 337401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: nospam_deepsea_77@yahoo.com (Space Charge) Subject: Re: Zenith 7S633R Transformer Replacement-Correction! Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:51:53 GMT Message-ID: <44b7f467.17687448@news1.news.adelphia.net> References: <44b2e31c.13262388@news1.news.adelphia.net> Folks, Those specs SHOULD have read: >275-0-275 @ 65ma >Secondary #1: 6.3V@.6A (NOT 65ma!) >Secondary #2: 6.3V@2.5A Looks like I just retyped the HV secondary current rating for secondary #1 in the original post. This is what you get for posting with a bad head cold! Sorry about that! :( -Lin/KJ6EF ==================== On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:45:01 GMT, nospam_deepsea_77@yahoo.com (Space Charge) wrote: >Have a 7S633R with a fried power xformer...I was thinking of trying an >off-the-shelf Hammond from AES, their P/N P-T270CX. > >It's got two 6V secondaries, & each seems to be rated about right for >the 6X5 rectifer, as well as having enough current capacity for the >pilot lights/tube string: > >275-0-275 @ 65ma >Secondary #1: 6.3V@65ma >Secondary #2: 6.3V@2.5A > >...but I'd like something just a bit beefier, if it exists. The cooler >it runs, the better. (But, maybe this will do.) > >Anyone have a better suggestion for a Hammond (or other) transformer >for the purpose? > >Thanks to the group in advance, > >Lin/KJ6EF >For email responses, remove "nospam_". For email responses, remove "nospam_". Article: 337402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12bfm67bk8ai306@corp.supernews.com> <1152900144.667790.290040@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1152905111.068312.263110@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Attention Eastern Ohio Philco Phanatics Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:11:18 -0400 Message-ID: Best of all... 4-5 layers of LARGE (1/2" high) bubble wrap. Boxed once is fine, but ship it assembled via Greyhound Bus. This is the ONLY way to ship larger table radios or consoles outside of a custom shipper. I have done it many times and it always works great. You and your customer must be near a bus station, however. Mark Oppat "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1152905111.068312.263110@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > AuroraOldRadios wrote: > > Hagstar wrote: > > > Erie/Cleveland area, I've camped near here on cross country trips- > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-MODEL-16B-60-NEEDS-HELP_W0QQitemZ160007185060QQihZ006 > > > > > > John H. > > I can understand why he doesn't want to ship it. I've wanted to sell my > > 16B but every time I think about shipping it I change my mind. Probably > > 3 boxes to do it right. > > Four. Chassis doubled. Speaker in a single box, well padded. Cabinet > doubled. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > > Article: 337403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1152899973.969042.93370@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: It's a miracle it arrived intact Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:08:44 GMT AuroraOldRadios wrote: > I bought a Radio Craftsmen 800 FM/AM tubed tuner/preamp form *bay > (item #200002314647). It arrived today in an undersized apple box > with no cushion on the bottom, no cushion on the face, and some > newspaper stuffed around the sides. The face was right against the > box and and the back had an L bracket that was pushed thru the box. > So far I don't see any shipping damage, but I don't know how. At > least the chrome looks like it will mostly polish clean. > I intend to use the FM tuner with my Capehart console. I may take the > tuner out of its cabinet and show off the chrome. On a happier related > note, Syl's rebuilt cartridge arrived today. Can't wait to try it on > the Capehart. I've the same tuner, arrived here in Italy in perfect shape, fantastic chrome too, just a bit of dust, easy work. Once re-tubed and a couple of new caps and a new eye it started sounding great. Mine is connected to a PP6L6 30W amplifier, wonderful listening. Nice piece! -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 337404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: manyrumours@lycos.com Subject: Re: Stewart-Warner nightstand (french commode style??) cabinet for 1105 or 1154 chassis Date: 14 Jul 2006 14:31:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1152912690.250294.272850@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Gerald D. Pine wrote: > Thought I'd posted this before, but don't see my post, so here goes again. > I picked up a cabinet that has had a Stewart-Warner radio in it at one > time and now is empty. Still has nice wooden radio face, metal > escutcheon and grill cloth (hole in one side). What I'd like to do is to > reunite the cabinet and an orphan chassis that someone else has. I know > it's a long shot, but just in case ... > > The cabinet is the size and form factor of a night stand with a fold down > front that covers the radio face and two drawers below the radio. I'm > only guessing as to the model based on descriptions in the fifth edition > of the "Collectors Guide to Antique Radios" by John Slusser et al. The > cabinet description seems a good match to Stewart-Warner models 1105 and > 1154. Unfortunately, there are no pictures for these models, so I could > be way off. But I haven't found any other models that sound even close to > the cabinet description. > > Here's the deal. If there's anyone out there who happens to have or to > run into a chassis without a cabinet or a chassis with a hopeless cabinet > for one of these models, I'd love to either acquire the chassis or to let > someone else acquire the cabinet to make a complete unit. My cabinet is > not perfect, but I'd say it's in generally good condition. > > Let me know if you happen to have one of these chassis that needs a > cabinet. > > Gerald What has this got to do with an old fashioned toilet with the overhead tank? (Unless it falls on your head when you tune the "tank") Anyway, nice find and good luck (I've only seen one Atwater Kent in my life and mostly post '36 stuff). Steven (alert the usual killjoy--killFILERS) > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 337405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: manyrumours@lycos.com Subject: Re: Vast vintage radio collection & tubes, Roseburg, OR Date: 14 Jul 2006 14:43:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1152913380.537030.263090@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: graham wrote: > Not mine, nor do I know the seller, just came across it ... > > http://portland.craigslist.org/clt/181295757.html So, did you buy the lot already? Thanks for teasin' all the po' folk. Article: 337406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: manyrumours@lycos.com Subject: ATTN KILLFILERS! Date: 14 Jul 2006 14:45:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1152913501.733935.20870@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Do your thang and don't bitch to me. Garcias, Steven bye Article: 337407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <_NVtg.3952$ZH1.3832@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:31:28 -0500 jim menning wrote: > "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message > news:1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> http://www.albundy.net/episodes/season_5/02/5020001.jpg >> >> Shown in an episode of the old "Married With Children" sit-com. >> >> Minutes after that shot, it gets destroyed by Al Bundy with a basebal >> bat. >> >> Anyone recognize this thing, or was it just a cardboard prop? >> > > > Why construct a prop when a cheap radio like that one will do? Looks like your > typical $14.99 drug store radio. > > jim menning > > > One reason might be repeated takes would be difficult if you destroy the prop every time. OTOH, if the prop is cheap, they might buy more than one in anticipation. From babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com Sat Jul 15 10:00:53 EDT 2006 Article: 337408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:25:38 -0500 From: "Bob" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <44B01C21.E37EC970@earthlink.net> <44B1C133.8D85C95E@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: More sensitivity? 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Terrell" wrote in message news:44B1C133.8D85C95E@earthlink.net... > Bob wrote: >> >> If the radio is selective at the higher end of the band (ie...1400 to >> 1600), >> but is not so selective at the lower end (ie...560 - 1000), is there >> something that can be done to improve this radio? > > > Is it properly aligned, or was it just done "By Ear"? BTW, Please do > not top post. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It was not aligned "by ear". Article: 337409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Moses Subject: FA Victor Talking Mach 78 rpm records Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:38:29 -0500 Message-ID: <12bge84ji8jpp02@corp.supernews.com> A fine set of 78 rpm records in a collectors album. 6 records total http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220007502216 Article: 337410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Compare shipping carriers around the World Date: 14 Jul 2006 19:07:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1152929235.631406.171710@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <26664-44B7BDBD-1141@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> I tried it and it seems very picky about the locations; for example it would not accept "Missoula Montana" or "Kamloops, BC" as shipping or destination points. Neil S. cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > www.redroller.com/shippingcarrier > cuhulin Article: 337411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: progress on the frankenzenith Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:11:48 GMT So I finally had a chance to do a bit of work on this. I had several helpful replies from people open but then stupid Windows Update rebooted my computer when I wasn't here so I lost them. Anyhow here's where I am so far: The chassis is marked R184364, it's a 7 tube shutterdial. All tubes are present but not all are good. The 5Y4G tests fine, it's a the ST style so it'll get left alone. The socket marked 6F6G has a 6V6 in it, this tube tested very weak. Are those two compatible? I picked up a cheap 6V6G on ebay which is good before I noticed what the socket was labeled. 6A8G, this tested weak at first but then popped up to full. The cap on the top had broken off but I soldered the wire to it and glued it back on. Seems to be in good working order now. 6F5G, this has a metal 6F5 in it, tests good, I'd like to change it at some point to an ST style tube. 6K7G, has a metal 6K7 with shorts, need to replace it. 6H6G, has a metal 6H6 which tests good, lower priority replacement Someone said something about a leaky capacitor on pin 5 of one of the tubes, which one was it and how do I locate pin 5? Seems there were originally metal shields around two of the tubes, they're both missing, anyone got any spares or will I have to try to fab my own at some point? Are they critical to operation? The brass pointer is broken off, anyone have suggestions on repairing or finding a replacement? Is it solid brass or some other metal that's plated? The smaller white pointer is gone too, if I look behind the front portion of the dial I can see a stub on the shaft, was that originally one piece or did it have a separate pointer that slipped on it? I'm thinking I can probably cut off a piece of a clock second hand and attach it but I'd like it to be as original as possible. Dial glass is missing, someone said the one from Antique Electronic supply doesn't fit, someone else said it does. Which is the case? Where can I get one that fits correctly? Article: 337412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1152899973.969042.93370@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: It's a miracle it arrived intact Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: <9tCdnYgZtIcTySXZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com> I have said this 100 times, but here goes again. I don't buy ANY used item that could be damaged in shipping unless I get the seller's agreement BEFOREHAND to pack and ship it the way that I want. If they won't agree, no deal; there's plenty of other stuff for sale. After one or two shipping heartbreaks, you will understand this precaution. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 337413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 14 Jul 2006 19:49:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1152931744.264268.70220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: how did he plan to get the ship to the ocean. It was built in Saskatchewan? My geography is terrible , no question, but isn't saskatcewan a long way from the ocean and Finland? Phil Gordon Richmond wrote: > > I see some rectifiers of various types, some light bulbs, a couple of coils, a > >magnet, a rheostat, and maybe even a tube. Maybe a power supply with multiply > >redundant rectifiers for those critical applications ;) Ebay item 320005998272 > > > > Would be cool as a Haunted Lab Halloween display, static of course. > > Quote from the auction page: "Sold As IS and it does not work and it has not been > tested." > > Clearly, the power cord is missing. It probably got tangled about the builder's ankle as > he was being abducted by space aliens. > > Folk art, theatrical prop, or an actual attempt by some ah, "eccentric" individual to > build a radio or a time machine, or ??? > > If ever you get the opportunity to visit Saskatchewan, a must-see is the Sukanen Ship > Museum just south of Moose Jaw. The ship in question is a vessel built by one Tom Sukanen, > a Finn who came to Saskatchewan by way of Minnesota. Beset by a series of personal > tragedies, he decided he should build himself a ship and sail back to Finland. So he built > a large boat hull with a deep keel, and equipped it with steam engines of his own making. > I saw the remains of one engine. The cylinder was made of a sheet of iron, hot-rolled into > a crude cylinder, with a riveted seam. The crankshaft had no bearings on it. More a > caricature of an engine, than an honest attempt to build a functional engine; I'd liken it > to the airplanes built by cargo cults in New Guinea. Poor Tom Sukanen ended his days in a > hospital for the insane, and there is no doubt he was quite mad. But he was also quite a > worker and inventor. The ship remains as a kind of monument to a dream. > > To keep on topic, the museum also incorporates a pioneer village, complete with a circa > 1930s radio shop. Also, the Western Development Museum in the city of Moose Jaw has a nice > collection of radios. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 337414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "graham" References: <1152899973.969042.93370@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <9tCdnYgZtIcTySXZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: It's a miracle it arrived intact Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:04:42 -0700 Message-ID: "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:9tCdnYgZtIcTySXZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com... >I have said this 100 times, but here goes again. > > I don't buy ANY used item that could be damaged in shipping unless I get the > seller's agreement BEFOREHAND to pack and ship it the way that I want. If they > won't agree, no deal; there's plenty of other stuff for sale. .... on the flip side, I have rejected the buyer's packing requests because they where not good enough ... I suggested better alternatives, based on prior experience, because of the added cost, they never bid .... go figure ... Article: 337415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: progress on the frankenzenith Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:59:13 -0700 Message-ID: <22925-44B85A01-816@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: James wrote, >Someone said something about a leaky >capacitor on pin 5 of one of the tubes, >which one was it and how do I locate pin >5? That's the control grid (G1) the AF output, the 6F6. The pins are counted clockwise beginning from the keying flange. The 6V6 will work OK there. In fact it draws a slightly lower heater current (450ma vs. 700ma) so it's a little bit easier on the power tranny. Zeniths are noted for having marginally-rated power trannys, which may or may not be true of this particular set. Here's a couple of tube database sites that you'll find perpetually useful =96 www.nj7p.org/Tube.php www.nostalgiaair.org/Tubes/ =96 well worth bookmarking now that you are an official old radio guy. :-) Bill(oc) Article: 337416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: It's a miracle it arrived intact Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:07:13 -0500 Message-ID: <7956-44B85BE1-1454@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152905493.928247.287640@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> A woman next door to me used to work for FedEx.She said she once saw a fork lift blades run right through a box which had a computer monitor in the box. cuhulin Article: 337417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Compare shipping carriers around the World Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: <7956-44B85E25-1455@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152929235.631406.171710@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> I saw the website at my today's Show Daily News free email newsletters I get from www.kimkomando.com Why the website is picky,I do not know. cuhulin Article: 337418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: interesting piece of... Date: 14 Jul 2006 20:30:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1152934224.411599.236590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> This guy with an auto mechanics shop down the street called me up and gave me this record cutter today It is in a big suitcase. it was sitting in his mechanics shop for who knows how long, so it is well , "less than pristene" he said it used to work , someone lost the needles, then he plugged it in one day and "let the smoke out" It is made by Meissner . called a Phono recorder. model 9-1065 it has two tone arms, one for recording, one for playback, and it is a radio too. I guess the needle for playback lasted , it is a cartridge , but the one to cut records is some sort of replacable needle, and that is missing. it says "ASTATIC X-26 CRYSTAL" on the bottom of the recording tonearm. It has two inputs, two volume controls? and a switch for gain , a tone control , and two lamps ( neon lamps maybe?) for "normal" and "overload". It's seven tubes all can be pulled from the top, there is a little trough where they all fit so it doesn't need to come apart to access the tubes. any idea where I would get a needle? would a phono needle work? and what could I use to make records now that the blanks are non existant? can I check if the tonearms are any good before I invest anything into this? did I want one of these? on a related note, I noticed the other day that someone is making new record cutters and selling them on ebay. these ones supposedly use cd's as the recording medium. interesting idea I guess.. Phil Article: 337419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Diy?? Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:24:49 -0500 Message-ID: <7956-44B86001-1456@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <5J7tg.14192$MF6.2880@tornado.socal.rr.com> Those things he is building,they all look good to me.That plasma tweeter looks sort of an old peanut vending machine that I own. cuhulin Article: 337420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1152931744.264268.70220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real whatzit Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:27:01 -0500 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1152931744.264268.70220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > how did he plan to get the ship to the ocean. It was built in > Saskatchewan? > My geography is terrible , no question, but isn't saskatcewan a long > way from the ocean and Finland? > > Phil > > > If ever you get the opportunity to visit Saskatchewan, a must-see is the Sukanen Ship > > Museum just south of Moose Jaw. The ship in question is a vessel built by one Tom Sukanen, > > a Finn who came to Saskatchewan by way of Minnesota. Beset by a series of personal > > tragedies, he decided he should build himself a ship and sail back to Finland. So he built > > a large boat hull with a deep keel, and equipped it with steam engines of his own making. > > I saw the remains of one engine. The cylinder was made of a sheet of iron, hot-rolled into > > a crude cylinder, with a riveted seam. The crankshaft had no bearings on it. More a > > caricature of an engine, than an honest attempt to build a functional engine; I'd liken it > > to the airplanes built by cargo cults in New Guinea. Poor Tom Sukanen ended his days in a > > hospital for the insane, and there is no doubt he was quite mad. But he was also quite a > > worker and inventor. The ship remains as a kind of monument to a dream. > > > > To keep on topic, the museum also incorporates a pioneer village, complete with a circa > > 1930s radio shop. Also, the Western Development Museum in the city of Moose Jaw has a nice > > collection of radios. > > > > Gordon Richmond > Phil, You *know* Saskatchewan is in the middle of the fershlugginer continent. :>) The nearest water is probably Old Wives' Lake south or maybe southwest of Moose Jaw... my Dad used to take me down there to hunt rabbits. (Cooey single-shot with iron sights... 14 year old boy... forget it. No rabbits were harmed in that exercise!) It would have to be one of those "magnificent obsessions", like the jilted Scotsman who built a log castle (!) in the wilds of northern Ontario. Radio content: While roaming rabbit country, we came across some of what I call "clean dumps" where farmers threw everything that quit working. I found a number of twenties and thirties radio chassis' in those dumps, in surprisingly clean and good condition. Took them home, too, but what did a 14 year old boy know about them and how to restore them? Cheers Nelson Article: 337421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: A real whatzit Date: 15 Jul 2006 03:42:35 GMT Message-ID: References: <1152931744.264268.70220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "philsvintageradios" (philsvintageradios@yahoo.ca) writes: > how did he plan to get the ship to the ocean. It was built in > Saskatchewan? > My geography is terrible , no question, but isn't saskatcewan a long > way from the ocean and Finland? > > Phil > I think that was the key part of the story, that he made the boat but had no chance of ever being able to make use of it. Sort of like building a boat in your basement, and then realizing you can't get it out, only on a far grander scale. Michael > Gordon Richmond wrote: >> > I see some rectifiers of various types, some light bulbs, a couple of coils, a >> >magnet, a rheostat, and maybe even a tube. Maybe a power supply with multiply >> >redundant rectifiers for those critical applications ;) Ebay item 320005998272 >> > >> > Would be cool as a Haunted Lab Halloween display, static of course. >> >> Quote from the auction page: "Sold As IS and it does not work and it has not been >> tested." >> >> Clearly, the power cord is missing. It probably got tangled about the builder's ankle as >> he was being abducted by space aliens. >> >> Folk art, theatrical prop, or an actual attempt by some ah, "eccentric" individual to >> build a radio or a time machine, or ??? >> >> If ever you get the opportunity to visit Saskatchewan, a must-see is the Sukanen Ship >> Museum just south of Moose Jaw. The ship in question is a vessel built by one Tom Sukanen, >> a Finn who came to Saskatchewan by way of Minnesota. Beset by a series of personal >> tragedies, he decided he should build himself a ship and sail back to Finland. So he built >> a large boat hull with a deep keel, and equipped it with steam engines of his own making. >> I saw the remains of one engine. The cylinder was made of a sheet of iron, hot-rolled into >> a crude cylinder, with a riveted seam. The crankshaft had no bearings on it. More a >> caricature of an engine, than an honest attempt to build a functional engine; I'd liken it >> to the airplanes built by cargo cults in New Guinea. Poor Tom Sukanen ended his days in a >> hospital for the insane, and there is no doubt he was quite mad. But he was also quite a >> worker and inventor. The ship remains as a kind of monument to a dream. >> >> To keep on topic, the museum also incorporates a pioneer village, complete with a circa >> 1930s radio shop. Also, the Western Development Museum in the city of Moose Jaw has a nice >> collection of radios. >> >> Gordon Richmond > Article: 337422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Plug-in coils avbl Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:46:21 -0500 Folks, I came into possession of a number of plug-in coil forms, bakelite, mostly four pins, one six pin, and a couple of five pins, I think Coil forms are about two inches tall by 1 1/4 inch diameter. There's also a large one with four banana pins arranged with three, then a space, then one. It's about 2 inches dia. and maybe 1 1/4 inch winding area, on a open coil form. Bottom line, if you can use any of these, shoot me an email and we'll work out some kind of swap or something. Most of these, you'll want to rewind. Cheers, Nelson Article: 337423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Whoever Subject: Re: It's a miracle it arrived intact References: <1152905493.928247.287640@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7956-44B85BE1-1454@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:53:15 GMT cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > A woman next door to me used to work for FedEx.She said she once saw a > fork lift blades run right through a box which had a computer monitor in > the box. > cuhulin > Oh, you should've seen the box I got a few months ago. I wasn't an old radio, but it was an electronic item purchased off eBay. Fedex dropped it off (no signature). Part of the box bottom had come undone so there were peanuts leaking out. When I opened it, there was the most amazing collection of packing materials inside! The item itself was wrapped up in several of those tote-type paper shopping bags that looked like they came from a clothing store. And that was surrounded by a mixture of: several styles and colors of styrofoam peanuts; crumpled and shredded newspaper; wadded plastic grocery bags; pieces of a broken styrofoam sheet; and small sheets of bubble wrap. The most unusual find was that of several copies of purchase-order invoices for silverware at $100 a pop (these were mixed in w/ the packing)! Oh yeah, the item was in perfect working order when I got it out of that mess! Article: 337424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: Subject: Re: Plug-in coils avbl Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:04:59 -0400 Message-ID: <44b86965$0$3630$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:FyZtg.60475$wJ1.23743@newsfe13.lga... > Folks, > I came into possession of a number of plug-in coil forms, bakelite, > mostly four pins, one six pin, and a couple of five pins, I think > Coil forms are about two inches tall by 1 1/4 inch diameter. > There's also a large one with four banana pins arranged with three, > then a space, then one. It's about 2 inches dia. and maybe 1 1/4 inch > winding area, on a open coil form. > Bottom line, if you can use any of these, shoot me an email and > we'll work out some kind of swap or something. > Most of these, you'll want to rewind. > Cheers, > Nelson > Sounds like some stuff out of the ole ARC 5 type sets. I used to have a bunch of em - sold them moons ago. Article: 337425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: Re: progress on the frankenzenith References: <22925-44B85A01-816@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 04:13:24 GMT > > That's the control grid (G1) the AF output, the 6F6. The pins are > counted clockwise beginning from the keying flange. > The 6V6 will work OK there. In fact it draws a slightly > lower heater current (450ma vs. 700ma) so it's a little bit easier on > the power tranny. Zeniths are noted for having marginally-rated power > trannys, which may or may not be true of this particular set. > Here's a couple of tube database sites that you'll find > perpetually useful – www.nj7p.org/Tube.php > www.nostalgiaair.org/Tubes/ – well worth bookmarking now that you are > an official old radio guy. :-) > > Thanks, so clockwise looking up at the base of the tube, or looking down at the socket? By work "OK" do you mean it's acceptable but not ideal, or should the thing sound about the same? Hopefully whoever it was who said they had tubes will see this and get back to me as I lost the original post. Article: 337426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" Subject: Re: progress on the frankenzenith Date: 14 Jul 2006 21:33:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1152938013.703213.217080@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: James Sweet wrote: > Thanks, so clockwise looking up at the base of the tube, or looking down > at the socket? Looking up at the base of the tube from underneath > By work "OK" do you mean it's acceptable but not ideal, or should the > thing sound about the same? You'll never notice the difference. It'll sound great. > Hopefully whoever it was who said they had tubes will see this and get > back to me as I lost the original post. That was probably Mark. moppat at comcast dot net or www.oldradioparts.net. Your entire original thread is here: http://tinyurl.com/nw2tf paul Article: 337428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Not exactly antique, but does anyone recognize this radio? References: <1152808266.071024.224550@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:13:06 GMT Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Stephanie Weil wrote: >> http://www.albundy.net/episodes/season_5/02/5020001.jpg >> >> Shown in an episode of the old "Married With Children" sit-com. >> >> Minutes after that shot, it gets destroyed by Al Bundy with a basebal >> bat. >> >> Anyone recognize this thing, or was it just a cardboard prop? >> >> -- >> Steph Weil >> New York >> > Genuine radio, Sears Roebuck, early to mid-1980s. Probably manufactured > for sears by Sanyo. > > "Married with Children" was the first show ever aired on Fox, and its > only genuine hit for a long, long time. It ran longer on that network > than any other show except "The Simpsons" and "America's Most Wanted". > > It's a sleazy, pointless show, but compared to the crap that Fox runs > now, it is high art. > > -Scott > The radio was crap. The show broke a lot of new ground though. Most of the new ground was in the area of how much sexual innuendo could be put on broadcast television, which has its merits and demerits. It also broke ground in the impossibility area with a family of 4 living in suburbia on the salary of a shoe salesman, never anything in the house to eat, the house being basically destroyed several times a season, etc. Malcolm in the Middle, South Park (now on broadcast TV) and many, many others that came later owe a lot to good old Al Bundy and the clan. It certainly has its moments in raw, completely unpretentious humor. Regards, DAve Article: 337429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: ATTN KILLFILERS! Message-ID: References: <1152913501.733935.20870@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 01:14:40 -0400 will do ......manyfatass! On 14 Jul 2006 14:45:01 -0700, manyrumours@lycos.com wrote: >Do your thang and don't bitch to me. > >Garcias, > >Steven > >bye __________________________________________________________ KE4ODD Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to prove it. *Used with express written permission of its creator. Article: 337430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: A real whatzit References: <1152931744.264268.70220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:19:40 -0500 Gordon Richmond wrote: >> I think that was the key part of the story, that he made the boat but had >> no chance of ever being able to make use of it. Sort of like building a >> boat in your basement, and then realizing you can't get it out, only >> on a far grander scale. >> >> Michael > > Tom Sukanen was indeed a shipbuilder by trade back in Finland. I don't think there's any > doubt that his vessel would have been seaworthy. He planned to truck the ship (some 40-45 > feet in length, IIRC) to the South Sakatchewan River, which is not far from his place. I > doubt the river has a deep enough channel over its whole length to have floated this > vessel, but maybe he had soundings from the steamboat era. > > This ship project took him many years, and it would appear that as time passed, and his > mind deteriorated, more and more of the work he put into it was "just going through the > motions" rather than purposeful. Sad story. > > Time era was the '20s and '30s, BTW. Tom died in 1940-something. I dare say one could do a > Google search. > > Gordon Richmond > Indeed you can. The first entry points to a site which contains a six minute video where all questions are answered...and many more evoked. Article: 337431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1152931744.264268.70220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real whatzit Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 00:28:37 -0500 "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:kfsgb2husmm9qmts0ev9g308a0r6upr40g@4ax.com... > >I think that was the key part of the story, that he made the boat but had > >no chance of ever being able to make use of it. Sort of like building a > >boat in your basement, and then realizing you can't get it out, only > >on a far grander scale. > > > > Michael > > Tom Sukanen was indeed a shipbuilder by trade back in Finland. I don't think there's any > doubt that his vessel would have been seaworthy. He planned to truck the ship (some 40-45 > feet in length, IIRC) to the South Sakatchewan River, which is not far >from his place. I > doubt the river has a deep enough channel over its whole length to have floated this > vessel, but maybe he had soundings from the steamboat era. > > This ship project took him many years, and it would appear that as time passed, and his > mind deteriorated, more and more of the work he put into it was "just going through the > motions" rather than purposeful. Sad story. > > Time era was the '20s and '30s, BTW. Tom died in 1940-something. I dare say one could do a > Google search. > > Gordon Richmond Good idea, Gordon. I came up with http://www.sukanenmuseum.ca/tomi/tomi1.html ...a heartbreaking/warming story. Nelson Article: 337432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Looking for Sparton 301 guts From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 05:52:37 GMT Looking for radios from Sparton 301 radios... would like to find two of them one... the USA version and the other the Canadian version ... not interested in cabinets.. just the chassis stuff and speakers... John k9uwa Article: 337433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven (not really the Antichrist)" Subject: Re: ATTN KILLFILERS! Date: 14 Jul 2006 23:00:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1152943241.197989.139630@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1152913501.733935.20870@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Beerbarrel wrote: > will do ......manyfatass! Hello, Tracy! So you won't miss me while I'm missing you all tomorrow night. Be out with two girls! Have fun. > > > > On 14 Jul 2006 14:45:01 -0700, manyrumours@lycos.com wrote: > > >Do your thang and don't bitch to me. > > > >Garcias, > > > >Steven > > > >bye > > __________________________________________________________ > > KE4ODD > > Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to > prove it. > > > *Used with express written permission of its creator. Article: 337434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven (not really the Antichrist)" Subject: Re: any of you californians going to this? Date: 15 Jul 2006 00:54:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1152950052.585356.164410@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <12be1qjhugao217@corp.supernews.com> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I own an old Bogalusa wind up phonograph.I think it dates back to before > World War Two,certainly not much later than that.I guess I hope it is > the only one in existence in the World.That would make it rare as hens > teeth. > cuhulin Gosh, Glenn, are you gonna drive out to KRE with it? It's a mighty fine old building, and they did a marvelous job fixing it up to near it's former glory (the entry was removed years ago and was really unique and cool). You should read the pages on KRE in the CHRS website, as they are just excellent, as are the pictures of KPO/KGO and others I think I either saw or linked to while at the site. Article: 337435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carroll Senn Subject: Re: Sound editing software Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:19:32 GMT Adobe Audition, works for me On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 16:41:07 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >In the past we've talked somewhat about computer software for working >with/cleaning up old recordings. > >Personally I bought Sound Forge 5.0 several years ago and have used it >extensively for cutting/pasting/mixing audio. However one day I upgraded my >computer, and when I went to install the Sound Forge, it asked for my serial >number (which I could not find). So I did the next best thing -- I found a >bootleg copy and installed that (which happened to be version 7). > >All was well until today. Out of nowhere I got an error message stating >that I have to register online to continue using the mp3 plugin -- and it >pretty much locked up on me. So -- either there is a timeout on its use, or >else some type of spyware must have determined that I was using an >unregistered copy. Imagine, I'm unregistered, but I get continual e-mails >from Sony/Sound Forge about new products, from registering the FIRST time! > >The good news -- since that last time I've cleaned the shop, and have found >the "key" to the install. So once again I'm in business, albeit with >version 5. > >But all this raises my curiosity -- what other programs are out there that >you recommend? In my opinion, Sound Forge is great for cutting/editing, but >seems to be lacking when it comes to reducing noise or fixing other >abnormalities. Next time I update, it may be to something else -- or >something to complement this one. Carroll Senn Columbia, SC TO nut and general putz Article: 337436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: Bill Turner's collection to be auctioned by Estes Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 23:24:39 GMT I found this on the Antique Radio Forum, I thought you guys might be interested. Ron ----------------------------------- There's a full page ad in the latest Electric Radio Magazine that the collection of William Turner is being auctioned off July 29th at the Expo Auction Center in Burbank, Ohio. I know it must be sad for Bill to give it up, but I realize it is because of his health reasons. I hope he gets satisfaction and decent amounts of money >from the auction. Looks like there are many, many nice items going on the block. For those who don't get ER, I imagine it would also be posted on the Estes Auction web site at www.estesauctions.com Article: 337437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Bill Turner's collection to be auctioned by Estes Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:08:40 +0900 Message-ID: References: " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:XIVtg.19953$so3.4660@southeast.rr.com... >I found this on the Antique Radio Forum, > I thought you guys might be interested. > > Ron > > ----------------------------------- > There's a full page ad in the latest Electric Radio Magazine that the > collection of William Turner is being auctioned off July 29th at the Expo > Auction Center in Burbank, Ohio. > > I know it must be sad for Bill to give it up, but I realize it is because > of > his health reasons. I hope he gets satisfaction and decent amounts of > money > from the auction. Looks like there are many, many nice items going on the > block. > > For those who don't get ER, I imagine it would also be posted on the Estes > Auction web site at www.estesauctions.com Too bad. Hope Bill is going to be OK. Giving up the hobby could be detrimental to him. Take care, Bill, and be well. Article: 337438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven (not really the Antichrist)" Subject: Re: Bill Turner's collection to be auctioned by Estes Date: 15 Jul 2006 02:54:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1152957244.632489.239120@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: It leaves me quiet as well. May all those things find loving hands. Article: 337439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mort Denison" References: Subject: Re: Radiola RS binding post terminal cap, I HAVE THEM!! Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:22:25 -0400 Message-ID: Appreciate it, Ron. Sorry for the delay. I was 'enjoying' DC for a week. Article: 337440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Bill Turner's collection to be auctioned by Estes Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:17:28 -0500 Message-ID: <29047-44B8DCD8-1450@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1152957244.632489.239120@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> THANKS FOR THE GOOD WISHES. I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPLY THE PARTS AS BEFORE. MY LEFT HAND AND LEG ARE SOMEWHAT EFFECTED BUT I WILL CONTINUE MAKING THE THINGS A CAN. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 337441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mort Denison" References: <1152541510.680512.295650@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1152572568.254720.145680@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1152586623.568092.212630@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radiola RS binding post terminal cap needed Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:25:50 -0400 Message-ID: Sorry folks. About the time I posted the message, antiqueradios.com had a DNS problem. Their provider somehow screwed up the address without the 'www'. Caused much consternation for a day or so. Alan has it fixed now. And appreciate Ron having the part. Article: 337442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Warren Weber" References: <1152899973.969042.93370@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: It's a miracle it arrived intact Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:58:47 -0600 Message-ID: <3cSdnaFNh7UGnyTZnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@bresnan.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1152899973.969042.93370@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >I bought a Radio Craftsmen 800 FM/AM tubed tuner/preamp form *bay (item > #200002314647). It arrived today in an undersized apple box with no > cushion on the bottom, no cushion on the face, and some newspaper > stuffed around the sides. The face was right against the box and and > the back had an L bracket that was pushed thru the box. So far I don't > see any shipping damage, but I don't know how. At least the chrome > looks like it will mostly polish clean. > I intend to use the FM tuner with my Capehart console. I may take the > tuner out of its cabinet and show off the chrome. On a happier related > note, Syl's rebuilt cartridge arrived today. Can't wait to try it on > the Capehart. I sold 2 Ham receivers. Each weighed 55 pounds unboxed. The way I pack things is to bandsaw styrofoam to fit item in a snug box. Then foam around first box and install in another snug box. Everything gets done this way. Also I do not charge for this. Buyer expects item to arrive in good condition and thats the way I want to be. So I lose a little, so what. I sold 3 -16 guage 24 x28 stainless steel photo trays. Boxed in wood. UPS ran a fork lift into box And refused claim because of " poor boxing" They finally paid claim. WW Article: 337443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Warren Weber" References: <26664-44B7BDBD-1141@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1152929235.631406.171710@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Compare shipping carriers around the World Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 09:02:16 -0600 Message-ID: "nesesu" wrote in message news:1152929235.631406.171710@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >I tried it and it seems very picky about the locations; for example it > would not accept "Missoula Montana" or "Kamloops, BC" as shipping or > destination points. > > Neil S. Neil.. Just put in Zip code instead of city. Works for me. Only thing, won't list all the (ways) USPS can send so I wen't back to USPS site. WW > > cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >> www.redroller.com/shippingcarrier >> cuhulin > From babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com Mon Jul 17 22:40:34 EDT 2006 Article: 337444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:07:24 -0500 From: "Bob" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <44B01C21.E37EC970@earthlink.net> <44B1C133.8D85C95E@earthlink.net> <44B86CF9.E440976A@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: More sensitivity? Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:07:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.162.7.235 X-Trace: sv3-SDZJ2uQsVT3CHcnW/UpGPW4WlJJA104QqXBxU3alKAAcxMdAfM7HArdX8hqOPzKsgxxD0EcixrX+RIU!46qbixC4WONJe7RRAQW7e+OLicjv0stYQ+8N48SRJnr7of3tsLwBq7tB9n2SPaRBpoqqX4gKbSUt!VxToppU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:337444 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44B86CF9.E440976A@earthlink.net... > Bob wrote: >> > >> It was not aligned "by ear". > > > Well, how was it aligned? Do I have to play 20 questions, or do you > really want help? > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida It was aligned with an RF generator, AC volt meter and a Howard Sams photofact. Unless I did something really wrong, the alignment seems OK at the high end of the band, but at the low end, the stations sort of run together around 720 and 670, with hardly any separation in between like it should be. Maybe this is the way the radio was designed? The stations have better separation at the high end of the bad. Thanks. Article: 337445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: More sensitivity? Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:33:01 -0700 Message-ID: <18314-44B90AAD-669@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: Bob: One question: During your alignment, did you reduce the generator output to the lowest possible level while peaking the I.F.s? If not, it's easy to "miss the peak" and end up with the IF bandwidth too wide. To get 'em 'on the peak', just tune in a weak station that's down in the grass and peak it by ear. Sometimes no more than an eighth of a turn on one or more of the IF trimmers is all it takes. Bill(oc) Article: 337446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44b91511$0$31647$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Bill Turner's collection to be auctioned by Estes References: <1152957244.632489.239120@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <29047-44B8DCD8-1450@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Date: 15 Jul 2006 16:17:21 GMT Bill Turner wrote: > THANKS FOR THE GOOD WISHES. I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPLY THE PARTS AS > BEFORE.