Article 27867 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Matthew Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help with City Administration & Bee-Tree example Organization: ACS Reply-To: qualityram@yahoo.ie Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 63 Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 06:52:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.245.14.216 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 975653533 209.245.14.216 (Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:52:13 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:52:13 PST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27867 George's opinion of beekeeping behind 'closed doors' as any form of public deception' provokes me to add two cents: How far do we have to look to see laws are passed and suits filed from simple fear rather than fact? Placing beehives behind a six foot privacy fence will keep the uneducated ignorant to their fear. Since bees tend to sting objects they can 'eyeball' the fence also provides a level of safety from the odd hive that doesn't cooperate. Planting a dense hedge of trees will provide a natural barrier and cause the bees to fly up & over heads and houses. Bees will fly higher & higher each year virtually eliminating the off chance of an encounter with bees. This past summer I took out a mammoth feral hive filling FOUR bee-vacuum boxes of bees (each holds approx 8 pounds - dry weight) torn from a 100-year 8-foot stump of a maple tree in Boulder, Colorado. The day I arrived to remove the hive a local preschool showed to watch the bees come and go. They were sad to see their 'Bee Tree' cut down having made their little outings year after year. The opening of that hive was right at chest level and faced the public sidewalk not two feet away. Neighbors commented how surprised they were the bees ignored passing traffic and stuck to their business each year. The closest neighbor put up a nice yellow warning sign "Bee Crossing". Unfortunately I got caught in traffic (for 2 1/2 hours) on the way home and most of the hive suffocated from the boxes so full of bees. As for keeping bees in close quarters, I kept fifteen hives in a downtown lot for over two years. The lot is surrounded by trees and buildings and no-one complained - that is until the carwash owner in back nosed into my lot and flipped out, after the leaves dropped. He called the local police, fire and humane society all in the same night. All three knew I kept bees because those departments call me every spring to collect swarms and handle bee troubles - so he had a tough time convincing them of any 'emergency'. Complaints breed action and I ended up moving those hives from the property 9 months later. If anyone wants pictures of the 'BeeTree" feral removal, e-mail me and I'd be happy to send a few provided they're not used for any commercial purpose. The city actually paid me to do the removal since the public was upset about losing their bees, making noise in the local paper. Pictures were taken by the department of public works. Also - thanks to all whom responded to my last post on dipping woodenware! Matthew Westall - Castle Rock, CO On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:33:28 GMT, "George Styer" wrote: >First, I strongly disagree with the "out of sight, out of mind" or "don't >ask, don't tell" schools. You are not doing anything wrong, so why go about >it an a subversive manner. Nothing will piss your neighbors off more than >being deceived. You need to explain to your neighbors that you are going to Article 27868 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: hcampb@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Herb: Re: Comb Honey-What IS the proper way to eat? Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 14:50:25 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <908drd$7ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8v8mr5$c3e$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <67eS5.97039$65.953678@news1.rdc1.fl.home.com> <901ack$hbi$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.197.157 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Dec 01 14:50:25 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x71.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 205.188.197.157 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDhcampb Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27868 In article , "Scot Mc Pherson" wrote: > Ah yes...Now you need to file a private suite for a recount. > What I'm going to sue the State of Florida about is the lottery. I didn't buy a Lotto ticket last week because I was busy watching the election fiasco. However it was my intent to buy a ticket, and it was my intent to select the numbers that turned out to be winners, therefore it is obvious that our State maliciously deprived me of winning millions of dollars. So I'm going to sue for what is rightfully mine!! LOL BTW the reason I wondered if there was anything wrong with eating beeswax is because I know propolis sucks mercury out of teeth fillings when it is chewed. I wasn't sure whether the wax does the same thing or not. sincerely, Herb Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 27869 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.fl.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Scot Mc Pherson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <8v8mr5$c3e$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <67eS5.97039$65.953678@news1.rdc1.fl.home.com> <901ack$hbi$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <908drd$7ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: Herb: Re: Comb Honey-What IS the proper way to eat? Lines: 40 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:14:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.13.215.128 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.fl.home.com 975690849 24.13.215.128 (Fri, 01 Dec 2000 09:14:09 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 09:14:09 PST Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27869 That is interesting, I wasn't aware of the mercury problem...Is this due to resinous ion exchange? I do not think wax would pose the same problem because they are formed in very different manners and are made of entirely different substances. They aren't even similar. Propolis is gathered from trees and placed in the bee's pollen baskets. Wax is produced by glands in the abdomen of the worker bee and is a product of honey digestion. Scot wrote in message news:908drd$7ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > In article , > "Scot Mc Pherson" wrote: > > Ah yes...Now you need to file a private suite for a recount. > > > What I'm going to sue the State of Florida about is the lottery. > I didn't buy a Lotto ticket last week because I was busy watching the > election fiasco. However it was my intent to buy a ticket, and it was > my intent to select the numbers that turned out to be winners, > therefore it is obvious that our State maliciously deprived me of > winning millions of dollars. So I'm going to sue for what is rightfully > mine!! LOL > > BTW the reason I wondered if there was anything wrong with eating > beeswax is because I know propolis sucks mercury out of teeth fillings > when it is chewed. I wasn't sure whether the wax does the same thing or > not. > > sincerely, > Herb > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 27870 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!207.207.0.26!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news2.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Mark" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Labels Lines: 5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 18:34:25 CST Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv2-My05OnlIWWaEa7N16+86L+vqimdj84edc/u4cDVnnDnLYFNGHSqOEomI+6h5P8DTgRjq+fw3rxmPZoV!iQLZKLCK69Ny8nWtBpblImU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 00:34:25 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27870 Can anyone recommend a good source of labels for jars of honey? Thanks Article 27871 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 5 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: jajwuth@aol.com (Jajwuth) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 02 Dec 2000 04:24:22 GMT Organization: AOL Canada http://www.aol.ca Subject: top bar hives (bought) Message-ID: <20001201232422.03073.00002977@ng-fx1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27871 Is there any commercial entity selling top bar hives. I was just wondering because it seems that if you want to go the top bar route you have to make the hive yourself. Thanks Al Article 27872 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Dipping Woodenware - Ideas on design? Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:46:27 -0000 Organization: Customer of Energis Squared Lines: 42 Message-ID: <90bbm1$g29$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <9bg51tghm5buvmrtg5rheupqk0q4scooq8@4ax.com> <8vpgso$k76$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-23.lawrencium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news7.svr.pol.co.uk 975778305 16457 62.136.71.23 (2 Dec 2000 17:31:45 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Dec 2000 17:31:45 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27872 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew" Subject: dipping woodenware > Peter, > Just a quick thanks on your post on the Bee-Newsgroup concerning > 'dipping woodenware'. At 310F it sounds like the wax was exeptionally > close to it's flash point. Did you wear face gear or have to watch for > dangerous splashes from moving boxes in & out? The potential for > splashing and the hot fire below has me a bit concerned on the project. > > Many beekeepers have written the boxes should be dipped for 20 minutes > to kill AFB. How long do you usually dip for, or were you treating any > suspected AFB? --------------------------------------------------------- Matthew I have the flash point at 388.4 and autoignition point at 473, so I think there is some latitude for safety and with the wax only occupying half the depth of the tank there is not as much air available to it. No mask - I just dipped carefully, rather like frying chips - not many cooks wear visors! I do wear specs though, so these would give some protection from minor splashes. I dipped until the moisture had boiled out of the wood - about a minute. We have virtually no AFB (last case in 1984 in an apiary that I bought - I had the boxes irradiated) so I was not concerned about this aspect. I believe that 10 mins at 320 is recommended for AFB although this seems to me to be excessive. Although I have no evidence to support this, I understand that foundation made from wax rendered from AFB infected colonies will not cause AFB, presumably because the spores are encased in wax; I would have expected the same to happen with dipping. Presumably there is a difference between viable spores that are freely available to the bees and those that are sealed in wax. I will copy this back to the newsgroup to see if anyone has more to add on this point. Article 27873 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: propolus in car seat Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:50:16 -0000 Organization: Customer of Energis Squared Lines: 23 Message-ID: <90bbm2$g29$2@news7.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <3A26B8AB.2539060E@nospam.boeing.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-23.lawrencium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: news7.svr.pol.co.uk 975778306 16457 62.136.71.23 (2 Dec 2000 17:31:46 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Dec 2000 17:31:46 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27873 Start by freezing it and break away as much as you can. Methylated spirits will dissolve it - but may well cause it to spread and stain the cloth. Seat covers are the answer (isn't hindsight a wonderful thing!). "Billy Y. Smart II" wrote in message news:3A26B8AB.2539060E@nospam.boeing.com... > Group, > > Anyone have any good ideas as how to get propolis off of cloth car > seats? > > thanks, > > -- > Billy Y. Smart II > /* If the opinions expressed herein reflect those of the */ > /* Boeing Company, it would be entirely coincidental. */ > /* Remove the "NOSPAM" from the address to reply */ Article 27874 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.19!wnmasters2!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "George Styer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Labels Lines: 25 Organization: Productive Solutions X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:44:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.53.8 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 975782677 12.72.53.8 (Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:44:37 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:44:37 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27874 I never really found any ready-made labels that I thought were attractive, so unless you want to go to the expense of having a label designed and printed professionally, I find that an inkjet printer and Avery 81/2 x 11 full sheet labels work well. It would be interesting to see some of the designs used by the group but sometimes people get rather vexed by binary posts on a NG. -- Geo Sacramento, in California's great Central Valley "Honey is sweet but the bee stings" gstyLer@att.net To respond via email, get the "L" out of there "Mark" wrote in message news:lsXV5.77437$DG3.1432528@news2.giganews.com... > Can anyone recommend a good source of labels for jars of honey? > > Thanks > > Article 27875 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!hekyl.ab.tac.net!jekyl.ab.tac.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A29AE37.E1B560AD@3web.net> From: Eddie Vanderzeeuw Organization: http://www.3web.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,nl,de,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.crafts.winemaking,rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.historic,rec.org.sca,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Straw poll: rec.crafts.meadmaking References: <79iU5.20057$pw2.2071295@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:21:46 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.197.173.171 X-Trace: jekyl.ab.tac.net 975810367 209.197.173.171 (Sat, 02 Dec 2000 19:26:07 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 19:26:07 MST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu rec.crafts.winemaking:65381 rec.crafts.brewing:246803 rec.food.historic:23512 rec.org.sca:310363 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27875 I would to. Eddie V. The Kerrs wrote: > I would use it. > > "Christopher Hadden" wrote in message > news:79iU5.20057$pw2.2071295@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net... > > The question of having a newsgroup dedicated to mead making has surfaced > on > > several occasions in rec.crafts.winemaking and rec.crafts.brewing. Before > > issuing a formal Request for Discussion (RFD), Shane and I would like to > > take an informal straw poll to see how much support there is for such a > > group across all applicable groups. Initial discussion in > > rec.crafts.brewing and rec.crafts.winemaking has been positive. > > > > Would you read or use a newsgroup devoted solely to mead making? Please > > e-mail your reply to Shane or myself. > > > > Regards, > > > > Christopher Hadden (chadden@contecrayon.com) > > Shane Hultquist (for_vidar@hotmail.com) > > > > Article 27876 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!typhoon.sonic.net!uunet!sac.uu.net!nyc.uu.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!newsinternetskywayteltow!post.skyway.de!trimpas.omnitel.net!not-for-mail From: "Zaneta" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Sorry for off- topic. But it is really important for me? Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:32:31 +0200 Organization: Omnitel, Lithuania Lines: 134 Message-ID: <90e72l$8b6$12@news.omnitel.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: eiguliai.euteka.lt X-Trace: news.omnitel.net 975871895 8550 212.47.107.65 (3 Dec 2000 19:31:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@omnitel.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:31:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27876 Sorry for off- topic. But it is really important for me… Dear Sirs, Please, do not regard this letter as a spam, because it is indeed of great importance and urgent. It is not a joke, nor a dishonest ask for money. It is a matter of life and death.... Please do not reject it and by this block the way to find our last hope. We hope for your understanding and good will. Please accept our kindness regards Zaneta and Andrius Dear people, Sorry for bothering you, but it’s really important to me. Hope always dies the last. That’s why I brought myself to address you for help. I am the only daughter in the family. I am nineteen. Although I am a first-year student of architecture specialty, I can’t study so far, as for already one year and half owing to the illness I am in Vilnius Santariskes University Hospital. My diagnosis is acute lymphoblastic leukemia; pre-B, 1st bone marrow and CNS relapse. The ALL pre-B, CALLA + was diagnosed in September 1998. As it is hard to understand all the medical description of my diagnosis, please find the exact characteristic in the end of my letter. I am treated with chemotherapy. After each course I feel extremely bad, as chemotherapy emaciates my young organism very much. Bone marrow transplantation with the help of donor is necessary to me by all means. Such operations when there is no donor and he can be a brother or sister are not performed in Lithuania. If such an operation is not performed to me, my life as doctors forecast may be over in three years. Operations of such character are performed in European countries. But a lot of means is necessary for that. Although my both parents are working, we will never be able physically to collect such a sum of money that may be necessary for performing the operation. (If anybody reading this letter could make a donation of even a little part (be it one dollar or so), I would be very grateful for your understanding and help. I beg you, don’t be indifferent to my disease, don’t take away from me the last hope to enjoy life, to see the spring sun not only through the hospital windows, some time if it will be destined to experience the most wonderful woman’s feeling – motherhood… As the proverb says:” alone you are nothing, together we are all…” You can find more information at: www.kalnieciai.lt/zr/ My diagnosis is acute lymphoblastic leukemia; pre-B, 1st bone marrow and CNS relapse. The ALL pre-B, CALLA + was diagnosed in September 1998. At diagnosis WBC 8.39 x 109/1, RBC 2.15 x 1012/1, HGB 75.4 g/l, PLT 81.8 x 109/1, blasts 78%; bone marrow biopsy: cariocytes 350 x 109/l, blasts 93 %, all myeloperoxidase negative; peripherial blood blast by flowcytometry: CD45+dim, CD19+, CD10+, CD34+, CD22+dim, CD13+dim, HLA-DR+. Respectfully yours Zaneta Rutkauskaite Ukmerges str. 23-52 KAUNAS LITHUANIA Phone: +370 7 720976 E-mail:zr@kalnieciai.lt Attending physician Dr. Laimonas Griskevicius Head of Department of Intensive Chemoterapy and Bone marrow Transplantation Dr. Igoris Trociukas Hematology Dept. Vilnius University Hospital Santariskiu klinikos Address: Santariskiu 2, Vilnius LT 2021, Lithuania Phone/fax: +370 2 365085 Bank account of Zaneta Rutkauskaite AB LIETUVOS TAUPOMASIS BANKAS If the transfer is performed in US Dollars: 1.Correspondent bank: Bankers Trust Company, New York SWIFT: BKTR US 33 2.Beneficiary’s bank: LITHUANIAN SAVINGS BANK, Vilnius SWIFT: TAUP LT 2X 3. Beneficiary’s account No. 60104/742745495 If the transfer is performed in Dutch guldens 1.Correspondent bank: ABN AMRO BANK NV AMSTERDAM SWIFT: ABNA NL 2A 2.Beneficiary’s bank: LITHUANIAN SAVINGS BANK, Vilnius SWIFT: TAUP LT 2X 3. Beneficiary’s account No. 60104/575745497 In German DM 1. Correspondent bank COMMERZBANK AG, FRANKFURT/ MAIN SWIFT: COBA DE FF BLZ 500/4000 2. Beneficiary’s bank: LITHUANIAN SAVINGS BANK, Vilnius SWIFT: TAUP LT 2X 3. Beneficiary’s account No. 60104/575745497 Article 27877 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 1 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: jpa555@aol.com (JPA555) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 03 Dec 2000 05:06:22 GMT References: <158V5.62003$DG3.1191578@news2.giganews.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Honey House Cleaning Message-ID: <20001203000622.22797.00003033@ng-fq1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27877 Same as you would clean your dishes soap and water, That is what I do. Article 27878 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialup-lbb-0343.nts-online.NET!not-for-mail From: Charlie Kroeger Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Best West Texas Bees? Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:00:33 -0600 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <8CEQ5.14734$wW2.478156@news1.giganews.com> <18B4BFE326CAD6AF.85040575FFDF73E8.AA6A3A0890CC3A12@lp.airnews.net> Reply-To: ckrogrr@frankensteinface.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-lbb-0343.nts-online.net (216.167.132.88) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 975877240 948399 216.167.132.88 (16 [35320]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27878 >Any experience with All-Americans or Carniolans in this area? What kind of >bees do Buckfast turn into if you don't requeen? Mark, I didn't noticed you had pasted my message at the end of our 'query' about Carniolans. So I'll just say this. These two Doctors in Amarillo gave me two hives they had created in the spring of 1998, and they both did well in Amarillo that season. However it was the best season since the pleistocene and so you can't really judge your future outcome on that year. In fact if you were a 'realistic' beekeeper in these parts you would completely discount a year like that because it ain't coming around again in your lifetime. So.. The All Americans they had in one of their hives, did well, really well under those great conditions, but they died out quickly by December of V. mites. The Carniolans were also affected by mites but held out until the following spring, when I had to requeen them from a hive that's survived around here for 8 years. I've had no experience with All Americans excepting that one time but I've 'tried' to keep Carniolans here before. (34.94 N X 101.69 W) The problem with them is that they are too 'nice' and easy going to live here. The moths play hell on slack and weak hives in the fall even though I always reduce the entrances down to about two bees. If a cow dislodged a hive of Carniolans or knocked it over, they would never make the cow 'pay' for his crimes like you would expect from a hearty hive of Buckfast. Any cows coming around them would soon learn to keep a healthy distance. (Cows have a large expanse of nose, and large eyes) I personally look forward to the arrival of a variation on the tropical AHB. Less protective measures will be required by the beekeeper in these parts and that's fine with me. Carniolans are best suited for producing propolis in my experience. If you want to start a propolis farm, then they're the one's you need. You will have to give them a lot of extra care if they're out on their own. C.K. Article 27879 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 11 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: gwongdung@aol.com (Gwongdung) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 03 Dec 2000 05:35:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Hundreds of Dead Bees Message-ID: <20001203003510.08744.00002884@ng-fz1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27879 This is my first year beekeeping in the New York area. My bees made two deep supers of brood and a shallow super of honey, so I thought I was doing good at the end of the summer. I left all the honey for them and used apistan strips. I didn't feed them this fall (I presumed the honey they made would be enough) The problem -- I'm noticing lots of dead bees around my hive, probably several hundred. Is this just normal winter population loss, or a symptom of a more severe problem? Should I have fed them sugar water in the fall ? The only thing I've done so far is put in an entrance reducer. I know that opening the hive during winter is a big no-no, so do I just hope that things go alright until warmer temperatures return ? Article 27880 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.online.be!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!clgrtnt3-port-195.dial.telus.NET!not-for-mail From: "Allen Dick" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hundreds of Dead Bees Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 22:57:00 -0700 Lines: 22 Message-ID: <90cnc1$n20c$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de> References: <20001203003510.08744.00002884@ng-fz1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clgrtnt3-port-195.dial.telus.net (161.184.46.195) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 975823042 755724 161.184.46.195 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27880 If you have a balanced population of 35,000 bees which live -- say -- 100 days each, and if they die off at a steady rate, on any given day, you would expect to have 35,000 / 100 = 350 bees die each day. If they each live 200 days, then we expect 35,000 / 200 = 175 to die *on average* per day. Of course it is not that simple. Bees often do not die in or near the hive, and bees tend to die more on active days, but this shows that a lot of bees die under normal conditions. Whether your case is normal not is hard to determine over the net. Hope that this reassures you somewhat, though. If you are still worried, get a local beekeeper to look at them with you. allen -- http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/ > The problem -- I'm noticing lots of dead bees around my hive, probably several > hundred. Is this just normal winter population loss... Article 27881 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail From: "David" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hundreds of Dead Bees Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 00:28:54 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 34 Message-ID: <90f98h$4tp$1@slb2.atl.mindspring.net> References: <20001203003510.08744.00002884@ng-fz1.aol.com> Reply-To: "David" NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.41.51 X-Server-Date: 4 Dec 2000 05:14:57 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27881 I am also new to beekeeping this year. I live in Georgia, it is probable a little warmer here. I have noticed dead bees being carried out of the hive and sometimes the removing bee fly off some distance before landing with her load. On cold mornings they are left outside the hive. I presume that you will have to open the hive to remove the apistan strips after 50 days or so. I have also used apistan strips and have marked the calendar to remind me to remove the strips. David A. Gwongdung wrote in message news:20001203003510.08744.00002884@ng-fz1.aol.com... > This is my first year beekeeping in the New York area. My bees made two deep > supers of brood and a shallow super of honey, so I thought I was doing good at > the end of the summer. I left all the honey for them and used apistan strips. > I didn't feed them this fall (I presumed the honey they made would be enough) > > The problem -- I'm noticing lots of dead bees around my hive, probably several > hundred. Is this just normal winter population loss, or a symptom of a more > severe problem? Should I have fed them sugar water in the fall ? The only > thing I've done so far is put in an entrance reducer. I know that opening the > hive during winter is a big no-no, so do I just hope that things go alright > until warmer temperatures return ? Article 27882 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!63.208.208.143!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!207.207.0.26!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news1.giganews.com.POSTED!news.clear.net.nz!a001-m001-u67.napr.clear.net.nz From: "David Hills" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9bg51tghm5buvmrtg5rheupqk0q4scooq8@4ax.com> <8vpgso$k76$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk> <3A21C222.284B1724@midwest.net> <8vskk0$5m844$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de> Subject: Re: Dipping Woodenware - Ideas on design? Lines: 33 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: a001-m001-u67.napr.clear.net.nz Message-ID: <3a2b5d0f@clear.net.nz> X-Original-Trace: 4 Dec 2000 21:59:59 +1200, a001-m001-u67.napr.clear.net.nz Organization: CLEAR Net New Zealand http://www.clear.net.nz - Complaints abuse@clear.net.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 03:02:10 CST X-Trace: sv2-oMk9l7XvatHqiXV+2Rj27WTab0EvQEmUPde6+Knw6B+PfQt6O8d9BNusMu+10MxpL82iqklLUWPnqgP!mUGhYsAT3t1wf0UqDqOLSL0Q X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 09:02:14 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27882 http://www.nba.org.nz/pms/manual/man08.htm This site will take you to the relevant chapter of the New Zealand online manual David Hills "Allen Dick" wrote in message news:8vskk0$5m844$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de... > > What size/shape tank are your using? > > I think the Auzzies or the Kiwis use a tank that is like a tunnel. The > tunnel is designed so that the beginning area is shallow, the middle portion > is below the surface of the wax, and the far end rises up again. They heat > the middle with a torch. Boxes are pushed into one end and each one shoves > the next one along a bit. As the boxes travel along the tunnel, they are > submerged for a while, then rise out of the wax and drain before being > pulled out and stacked. > > Apparently, at the moment of emerging, latex paint will bond well. > > Maybe the NZ ministry has a publication on this. Seems to me I have a copy > somewhere. It'd be 20 years old, tho'. > > allen > > Article 27883 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hundreds of Dead Bees Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 11:57:08 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3a2a349c.515433203@news1.radix.net> References: <20001203003510.08744.00002884@ng-fz1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27883 On 03 Dec 2000 05:35:10 GMT, gwongdung@aol.com (Gwongdung) wrote: >This is my first year beekeeping in the New York area. My bees made two deep >supers of brood and a shallow super of honey, so I thought I was doing good at >the end of the summer. I left all the honey for them and used apistan strips. >I didn't feed them this fall (I presumed the honey they made would be enough) > >The problem -- I'm noticing lots of dead bees around my hive, probably several >hundred. Is this just normal winter population loss, or a symptom of a more >severe problem? Should I have fed them sugar water in the fall ? The only >thing I've done so far is put in an entrance reducer. I know that opening the >hive during winter is a big no-no, so do I just hope that things go alright >until warmer temperatures return ? Pop off the cover and take a peek, you won't hurt them. The air inside the hive around the cluter is the same temperature as outside the hive. beekeep PS They probably won't like it though and if warm enough they will let you know. Article 27884 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!feeder.qis.net!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp1.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A2BB592.FBE96F04@midwest.net> From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: top bar hives (bought) References: <20001201232422.03073.00002977@ng-fx1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 09:17:38 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.248.4.156 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp1.onemain.com 975943033 209.248.4.156 (Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:17:13 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:17:13 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27884 Kendal Smucker wrote: > > I am not aware of any reputable bee hive manufacturers selling top bar > hives. In Ohio (where I live) they are essentially illegal because of the > requirement that bee hives must be inspectable. I'm curious. What features of a TBH *prevent* inspection? AL Article 27885 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!cletus.bright.net!not-for-mail From: "Kendal Smucker" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20001201232422.03073.00002977@ng-fx1.aol.com> Subject: Re: top bar hives (bought) Lines: 29 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:48:13 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.143.41.11 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bright.net X-Trace: cletus.bright.net 975941268 209.143.41.11 (Mon, 04 Dec 2000 09:47:48 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 09:47:48 EST Organization: bright.net Ohio Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27885 I am not aware of any reputable bee hive manufacturers selling top bar hives. In Ohio (where I live) they are essentially illegal because of the requirement that bee hives must be inspectable. As a county honeybee inspector I did come across two top bar hives that were homemade for a gal whose father did custom cabinetry work. And fine pieces of work they were. After explaining the biological and apicultural disadvantages she opted out and obtained conventional hives. If you live in an area where you never, never, never, under any circumstance, never, need to inspect your bees for any reason or use any kind of medication, then you might succeed on a limited scale with tb hives. But you are still going against the bees' natural tendency to store upward, not laterally, and you lose the natural convection currents and force the bees to devote extra resources to air circulation. Rousseau was wrong, Langstroth was right. Jajwuth wrote in message news:20001201232422.03073.00002977@ng-fx1.aol.com... > Is there any commercial entity selling top bar hives. I was just wondering > because it seems that if you want to go the top bar route you have to make the > hive yourself. > Thanks > Al Article 27886 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!cyclone-sjo1.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: kent stienburg Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hundreds of Dead Bees Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 10:01:05 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3A2A6031.2F9E199@kingston.net> Reply-To: beemann@kingston.net X-Sender: "kent stienburg" <@mail.kingston.net> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD IKEzilla/2 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20001203003510.08744.00002884@ng-fz1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27886 Sorry but there needs to be a little more information. Did you just notice the several hundred dead bees in the last week? There are always some dead bees around the hive in the winter as Allen pointed out. Your description of several hundred lends a picture of large masses of dead bees clogging the entrance. Are they worker bees? Are they the larger drones? Are they mature bees or bees they have removed from a cell? How heavy is the hive? You seem to say they only have a shallow of honey. There is nothing wrong with removing the inner cover and peeking down the frames (as Beekeep said). I use a flash light. What you don't want to do is start removing frames or boxes where the bees a clustered. But with every "don't" there is a "do". I had one hive last year that starved while clustered around a large brood pattern. They had consumed the honey all around them but they couldn't reach the remaining honey. I'm assuming that this happened because of the warm beginning to the winter last year which turned cold quickly. If I could have got to the hive I would have moved some frames of food closer to the cluster. Kent Stienburg Article 27887 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 12 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 04 Dec 2000 18:31:28 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Yellow Jackets Message-ID: <20001204133128.20821.00000683@ng-ff1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27887 We had a few mornings here as low as 17 degrees F Today it is up to about 35 F and I am seeing a few yellow jackets at the hive entrances. Live ones. All in all with the late frost the wasps were a real pain in the last abdominal segment but this is too much. Tom Article 27888 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: hcampb@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: top bar hives (bought) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 18:45:43 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <90gool$ce5$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <20001201232422.03073.00002977@ng-fx1.aol.com> <3A2BB592.FBE96F04@midwest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.204.25 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Dec 04 18:45:43 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x73.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 152.163.204.25 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDhcampb Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27888 In article <3A2BB592.FBE96F04@midwest.net>, AL wrote: > Kendal Smucker wrote: > > > > I am not aware of any reputable bee hive manufacturers selling top bar > > hives. In Ohio (where I live) they are essentially illegal because of the > > requirement that bee hives must be inspectable. > > I'm curious. What features of a TBH *prevent* inspection? > > AL > I'm curious too, Al. I made a TBH a couple of years ago from plans found on the internet and had no problems inspecting it. In fact it was better because only one "frame" was exposed at a time so the bees on the other "frames" could go on about their business. Kendal must be talking about a different design. Sincerely, Herb in NW Florida (Central Time Zone - hundreds of miles from Palm Beach), USA Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 27889 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Glenn West Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey House Cleaning Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 19:21:51 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 25 Message-ID: <90gqs6$eai$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <158V5.62003$DG3.1191578@news2.giganews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.228.142.1 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Dec 04 19:21:51 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98; EDS COE v2000.2) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x60.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 199.228.142.1 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDwestxga Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27889 In article <158V5.62003$DG3.1191578@news2.giganews.com>, "Mark" wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I'm in the process of building a honey house with the usual equipment; > extractor, uncapper, various tanks, and a bottler. My question is..., how > do you clean the equipment, tanks, etc... and keep the Health Dept. happy. > The one around here (west Texas) wants everything cleaned with 171 degree > hot water. Are there other ways other than extremely hot water? > > Thanks for your help. > Mark Contact your local home brewing shop. Not sure of the economics for your situation, but homebrewers have a variety of no-rinse, low temperature sanitizers available to them. HTH... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 27890 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Lucy" From: "Lucy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Labels Lines: 21 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: <9ITW5.45942$nh5.3310979@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 21:07:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.20.63.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 975964037 63.20.63.123 (Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:07:17 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:07:17 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27890 Dear Mark, I have to agree with George. Avery does have quite a selection of size, etc. In fact, They even have a "round" label # 8293 - that you can use in Word. If you have any problem doing them, Avery has a toll free number and they are very nice and will "walk you through" the process of creating your label! I use them all the time! Take care, Lucy www.ohiohoney.com "Mark" wrote in message news:lsXV5.77437$DG3.1432528@news2.giganews.com... > Can anyone recommend a good source of labels for jars of honey? > > Thanks > > > Article 27891 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!howland.erols.net!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Lucy" From: "Lucy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3A26B8AB.2539060E@nospam.boeing.com> Subject: Re: propolus in car seat Lines: 21 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 21:07:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.20.63.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 975964078 63.20.63.123 (Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:07:58 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:07:58 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27891 I agree that Ice is the best method. Lucy www.ohiohoney.com "Billy Y. Smart II" wrote in message news:3A26B8AB.2539060E@nospam.boeing.com... > Group, > > Anyone have any good ideas as how to get propolis off of cloth car > seats? > > thanks, > > -- > Billy Y. Smart II > /* If the opinions expressed herein reflect those of the */ > /* Boeing Company, it would be entirely coincidental. */ > /* Remove the "NOSPAM" from the address to reply */ > Article 27892 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Lucy" From: "Lucy" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <8v8mr5$c3e$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <67eS5.97039$65.953678@news1.rdc1.fl.home.com> Subject: Re: Re: Comb Honey-What IS the proper way to eat? Lines: 57 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 21:09:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.20.63.123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 975964182 63.20.63.123 (Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:09:42 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:09:42 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27892 Hi Scot! I'm in Ohio! O-HI-O Honey www.ohiohoney.com ;-) "Scot Mc Pherson" wrote in message news:67eS5.97039$65.953678@news1.rdc1.fl.home.com... > Herb, > Where do you live? I live in Sarasota. > > -- > -Scot Mc Pherson > -Ummm....Just Scot > > > > > wrote in message news:8v8mr5$c3e$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > In article , > > "Lucy" wrote: > > > Hi! I was reading athe previous thread about Marketing Comb Honey, > > and > > > mention was made that young folks don't know the way to eat it....so > > I ask > > > you.... > > > Just what is the proper way to eat comb honey? Thank you! > > > > > > Lucy > > > > > Dear Lucy, > > > > I've never heard that there is a proper way to eat comb honey, at > > least until Beekeep said to use a hive tool. I doubt that because if we > > are going to market comb honey, what are we going to do? Sell a hive > > tool with each jar? > > > > Eat it like you do fried chicken. Some people pick it up and eat > > it and others use a fork. Which is proper? Either one. > > > > Whether you should swallow the wax from comb honey or spit it out > > is debatable and also seems to be a personal choice. Even if the wax > > is bad for us, I doubt that anyone would ever eat enough to cause any > > health problem. - except maybe in Florida where we have election > > dysfunction. :-) > > > > Sincerely, > > Herb NW Florida, USA > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > > Article 27893 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Carman" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: anatomy, physiology, function Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:59:47 +1300 Organization: Wave Internet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <90e4p0$mct$1@news.wave.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p55.hn1.wave.co.nz X-Trace: news.wave.co.nz 975869536 22941 203.96.192.55 (3 Dec 2000 18:52:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wave.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Dec 2000 18:52:16 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!usenet.net.nz!news.iprolink.co.nz!news!not-for-mail Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27893 Greetings all I am wondering if anyone here know of any good scientific entymological type websites that deal specifically with information about the anatomy and physiology of bees. Help appreciated regards carman Article 27894 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!logbridge.uoregon.edu!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A2C4899.AAF5B17C@gte.net> From: Chad Howell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD {GTE Internetworking} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Labels References: <9ITW5.45942$nh5.3310979@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 X-Trace: /ba9QYd2TPdxzhxkmNUGV9Ezlyyd8yIYvAvqeZF2ohVhAl9QhvaOYR3pVk126SdXu/XyA+VR0rfk!Jt0ixdI1t6GRiuiUmaGetSF5IxRzqIT4KeSMhQoBQM4vXzms/1XT5clXVRx2Tg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 01:43:27 GMT Distribution: world Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 01:43:27 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27894 Good luck in finding a label. I'm a small hobby beekeeper and I just got a quote on 4 different professional lables. I about fell off the chair. It was a little more than the pocketbook could take. I've decided to make my own but using Microsoft works and using the gift tag wizard. It makes a nice lable that you can tie around the lid with a ribbon. Chad Hog Creek Honey Lucy wrote: > Dear Mark, > I have to agree with George. > Avery does have quite a selection of size, etc. In fact, They even have a > "round" label # 8293 - that you can use in Word. If you have any problem > doing them, Avery has a toll free number and they are very nice and will > "walk you through" the process of creating your label! > I use them all the time! > Take care, > Lucy > www.ohiohoney.com > > "Mark" wrote in message > news:lsXV5.77437$DG3.1432528@news2.giganews.com... > > Can anyone recommend a good source of labels for jars of honey? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Article 27895 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pool1-2.internode.NET!not-for-mail From: "Allen Dick" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Labels Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:07:43 -0700 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <90hima$179fq$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de> References: <9ITW5.45942$nh5.3310979@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3A2C4899.AAF5B17C@gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool1-2.internode.net (198.161.229.178) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 975982091 1287674 198.161.229.178 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27895 > Good luck in finding a label. I'm a small hobby beekeeper and I just got a > quote on 4 different professional labels. I about fell off the chair. It was a > little more than the pocketbook could take. I've decided to make my own but > using Microsoft works and using the gift tag wizard. It makes a nice label > that you can tie around the lid with a ribbon. I was wondering... I make mead labels and glue them onto bottles with a glue stick, but I've found all the printer inks I've found are water based and run if the label gets wet. What can be done? Spray them with a fixative? alle Article 27896 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A2C4A44.B7D472@gte.net> From: Chad Howell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD {GTE Internetworking} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Sugar Syrup?? References: <4E3A8557B1A2B450.0DC352BE26A8C9A1.BCF6AFE678599182@lp.airnews.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 X-Trace: /ba9QYd2TPdxt3nd2di8WvF5kP2uIWuOxIdTrILZd3Rm2vzQRJn64A4Cz1cO+ERQA0VTvyyRoIZK!7v6sqfNePG8ot3gS+5nd3eyc0Git9LYc6g7midB+YSowMkwt6rM6l28aGD4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 01:50:33 GMT Distribution: world Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 01:50:33 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27896 Get yourself an old kitchen scale and measure it out in weight. Spring 5lb of sugar and 5 lb of water, fall 5lb of sugar and 2-1/2 water. Jim Sharp wrote: > After some really poor management decisions, I'm faced > with feeding my couple hives through our short Texas > winter. > > I'm having such a tough time making syrup. I know it's > 1:1 for spring stimulative feeding and 2:1 for heavy fall > feeding, but I confused by "volume" term. I get sugar > by the pound and water by the gallon... ? > > I have five gallon container. How many pounds of sugar > do I use to make 5-gallons of heavy syrup? I tried 50 llbs > and that made some heavy syrup, but I had about a foot > of solid sugar in the bottom that fell out of solution. > > I'm guessing water in first then pour the sugar in and stir? > Or the other way around? I've been using hot water. > > Just for the record - how many pounds of sugar to make > 5 gallons of 1:1 syrup? > > Ya think this would be simple! > Thanks > Jim > Dallas, TX USA Article 27897 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail From: "David" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Labels Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 23:48:08 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 16 Message-ID: <90hr61$6m8$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net> References: <9ITW5.45942$nh5.3310979@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3A2C4899.AAF5B17C@gte.net> <90hima$179fq$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: "David" NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.17.b0 X-Server-Date: 5 Dec 2000 04:33:05 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27897 I spray photos printed on ink jet printers with spray lacquer or polyurethane, it works well on photos. David A. > I was wondering... I make mead labels and glue them onto bottles with a > glue stick, but I've found all the printer inks I've found are water based > and run if the label gets wet. > > What can be done? Spray them with a fixative? > > alle > > Article 27898 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!feeder.qis.net!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp2.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A2B8807.D038DEA6@together.net> From: michael palmer Reply-To: mpalmer@together.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hundreds of Dead Bees References: <20001203003510.08744.00002884@ng-fz1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:03:19 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.231.24.244 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp2.onemain.com 975931203 206.231.24.244 (Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:00:03 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 07:00:03 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27898 A friend from northern Maine called me the other day. He thinks he is seeing bee kill from cumophos strips. He believes cold weather use of Check-mite strips may be killing some colonies. I told him I hadn't seen that, but I am noticing something odd. I winter in two deeps and a mediun super. Due to a lack of help this year I'm way late pulling my strips, and packing my bees. So, I'm opening brood nests mid to late November. I've never had to do this sort of thing before, so maybe this is the norm. Colonies that made a good crop, packed with honey into the bottom box, with small clusters in the bottom box. Strong colonies are usually well up into the middle box at this time of the year. I'm chalking it up to late swarming. We had a hell of a strong goldenrod flow this year. And from northern New York I,ve had a well respected keeper tell me his bees have been dying, most of the summer. Says he can't find Varroa mites, but the colonies are dead after making good crops. Is anyone else seeing anything "unusual" this year? Gwongdung wrote: > The problem -- I'm noticing lots of dead bees around my hive, probably several > hundred. Is this just normal winter population loss, or a symptom of a more > severe problem? Article 27899 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 8 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 05 Dec 2000 12:19:57 GMT References: <3A2C4A44.B7D472@gte.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Sugar Syrup?? Message-ID: <20001205071957.22207.00003260@ng-da1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27899 50 lbs of sugar would use 3 gallons of water to make heavy syrup. Tom Article 27900 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.fl.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Scot Mc Pherson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3A2C4A44.B7D472@gte.net> <20001205071957.22207.00003260@ng-da1.aol.com> Subject: Re: Sugar Syrup?? Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 13:42:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.13.215.128 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.fl.home.com 976023735 24.13.215.128 (Tue, 05 Dec 2000 05:42:15 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 05:42:15 PST Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27900 ????????? BeeCrofter wrote in message news:20001205071957.22207.00003260@ng-da1.aol.com... > 50 lbs of sugar would use 3 gallons of water to make heavy syrup. > > > Tom > > > > Article 27901 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.ne.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A2CFB0F.E17FBEE4@yahoo.com> From: "Rev. Mike Martin" Organization: Crescent Moon Computers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: top bar hives (bought) References: <20001201232422.03073.00002977@ng-fx1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 32 Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 14:27:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.22.131.116 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.ne.home.com 976026425 24.22.131.116 (Tue, 05 Dec 2000 06:27:05 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 06:27:05 PST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27901 Kendal Smucker wrote: > > I am not aware of any reputable bee hive manufacturers selling top bar Yes, there is one.. in Colorado somewhere I believe. I don't have the address anymore however. Do a search on yahoo or your favorite search engine and see if it turns up. > hives. In Ohio (where I live) they are essentially illegal because of the > requirement that bee hives must be inspectable. As a county honeybee Excuse me? What's to stop you from taking the top off the hive and lifting the comb out to inspect it? TBH's are legal, I have two (though I live in Missouri) and I've had no trouble whatsoever inspecting them. > kind of medication, then you might succeed on a limited scale with tb hives. I pulled more comb honey from my TBH's than my Langstroths, and finer quality wax too. > But you are still going against the bees' natural tendency to store upward, > not laterally, and you lose the natural convection currents and force the > bees to devote extra resources to air circulation. Rousseau was wrong, > Langstroth was right. One opinion... I suppose everyone has them. Mike -- Lord Hrothgar the Smith Rev. Mike Martin Visne crisere? Iam non aeger sum http://members.home.net/mmartin139 http://setiathome.ssl.berkely.edu/ [95WU/2203hrs] Article 27902 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!dfw-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Rob Morgan" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9ITW5.45942$nh5.3310979@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3A2C4899.AAF5B17C@gte.net> <90hima$179fq$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de> Subject: Re: Labels Lines: 36 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:54:30 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.57.90.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: dfw-read.news.verio.net 976027958 209.57.90.110 (Tue, 05 Dec 2000 14:52:38 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 14:52:38 GMT Organization: Verio Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27902 Hey Allen: I've noticed the same problem. I now print out the label on the best printer that I can find and then photocopy it. Kinkos, or some place like that, usually have high quality photocopy machines so that you have a minimal loss of resolution. With a reasonable amount of care you can get them on the jar without smearing from the glue and they can be submersed in water without the ink running. I also use a glue stick but have found that slightly watered Elmer's and a small brush works well and is much cheaper. Seems to take about the same amount of time. I'm still trying to figure out a way to speed up this process. Cheers, Rob Allen Dick wrote in message news:90hima$179fq$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de... > > Good luck in finding a label. I'm a small hobby beekeeper and I just got a > > quote on 4 different professional labels. I about fell off the chair. It > was a > > little more than the pocketbook could take. I've decided to make my own > but > > using Microsoft works and using the gift tag wizard. It makes a nice label > > that you can tie around the lid with a ribbon. > > I was wondering... I make mead labels and glue them onto bottles with a > glue stick, but I've found all the printer inks I've found are water based > and run if the label gets wet. > > What can be done? Spray them with a fixative? > > alle > > Article 27903 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 11 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 05 Dec 2000 17:29:51 GMT References: <3A2CFB0F.E17FBEE4@yahoo.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler Subject: Re: top bar hives (bought) Message-ID: <20001205122951.24698.00003317@nso-ft.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27903 In article <3A2CFB0F.E17FBEE4@yahoo.com>, "Rev. Mike Martin" writes: > In Ohio (where I live) they are essentially illegal because of the >> requirement that bee hives must be inspectable. As a county honeybee > I reviewed the inspection laws of all states about 20 years ago, and I remember one state that required "Langstroth" hive boxes, and at that time I figured it wouldn't take a lawyer long to argue that one for a nice fee. Most required movable frame hives, and the TBH would qualify under that definition. Article 27904 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.tele.dk!Tele.Dk.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: AFB the Danish way Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:29:35 +0100 Organization: Posted Courtesy of Tele Danmark or one of its European Subsidiaries Lines: 20 Message-ID: <90jisr$n7$1@news.inet.tele.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip36.mrgnxr1.ras.tele.dk X-Trace: news.inet.tele.dk 976047835 743 195.249.242.36 X-Complaints-To: the appropriate department of the poster's provider X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27904 I have started to translate the way AFB is handled in Denmark and more European countries. We are not using TM but are using a pure beekeeping technical way of handling AFB. You will find the translation on my Url. Best regards Jorn Johanesson Multilingual software for beekeeping since 1997 hive note- queen breeding and handheld computer beekeeping software full revised and bug tested 20-09-2000 home page = HTTP://apimo.dk e-mail Jorn_Johanesson@apimo.dk Article 27905 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed2.news.nl.uu.net!sun4nl!ams.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: search4science Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:54:45 +0100 Organization: search4science Lines: 13 Message-ID: <90jner$ssp$1@ns2.kvalito.no> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: 071.dialup.kvalito.no X-Trace: ns2.kvalito.no 976052507 29593 194.29.201.71 (5 Dec 2000 21:41:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@kvalito.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Dec 2000 21:41:47 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27905 BRAINS WITHOUT BORDERS - your no. 1 entry point to the world of science. http://www.search4science.com We invite you to take a look at this great new Gateway to the online world of science. 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Egelie http://www.search4science.com Article 27906 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!feeder.qis.net!yellow.newsread.com!bad-news.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!news.interact.net.au!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A2E15D6.1C0A7E5A@interact.net.au> From: Barry Metz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Lavender Honey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 5 Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:32:56 +1100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.215.13.140 X-Complaints-To: abuse@asiaonline.net X-Trace: news.interact.net.au 976098825 210.215.13.140 (Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:33:45 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:33:45 EST Organization: an Asia Online client - http://www.asiaonline.net/ X-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:33:45 EST (news.interact.net.au) Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27906 I am trying to locate someone who has recently published research on the economics of Lavender Honey production. Thank You Article 27907 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.alt.net!wcoil.com!usenet From: tarheit@wcoil.com (Tim Arheit) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Labels Date: 6 Dec 2000 14:00:37 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <90lgq5$c24$0@63.68.71.169> References: <9ITW5.45942$nh5.3310979@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3A2C4899.AAF5B17C@gte.net> <90hima$179fq$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.68.71.169 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27907 On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:07:43 -0700, "Allen Dick" wrote: >> Good luck in finding a label. I'm a small hobby beekeeper and I just got a >> quote on 4 different professional labels. I about fell off the chair. It >was a >> little more than the pocketbook could take. I've decided to make my own >but >> using Microsoft works and using the gift tag wizard. It makes a nice label >> that you can tie around the lid with a ribbon. > >I was wondering... I make mead labels and glue them onto bottles with a >glue stick, but I've found all the printer inks I've found are water based >and run if the label gets wet. > >What can be done? Spray them with a fixative? > >alle There use to be an "ALPS" printer that had pretty impressive color output, though it was quite slow, and the quality of inkjets has gotten better since. It used a wax transfer process (solid ink) that was not water based. I don't know if it's available anymore. Color laser does better, but the printers are expensive. You might be able to find someone to print them for you. My wife's office has one and they are allowed to use it (but are charged per page, something like 0.45 per page) -Tim Article 27908 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feeder.qis.net!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!pool-63.50.172.174.dnvr.grid.net!user From: NO-StretchL@SPAM-Mindspring.com (Charles "Stretch" Ledford) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help Me Correct New York Times Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 13:28:04 -0700 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 23 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 3f.32.ac.ae X-Server-Date: 6 Dec 2000 20:17:45 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27908 In an article in The New York Times Magazine for Sunday, December 3, 2000, a writer makes the following assertion about a scene he's witnessed of the decaying body of a murdered woman: "Honeybees swarm her mouth and nostrils, searching for the eggs that blowflies like to lay in the body's dark cavities." This doesn't seem accurate at all. Why would honeybees search for blowfly eggs? Is he probably confusing honeybees with another bees, with a yellow jacket, perhaps? Please provide sound backup for your answer, and/or a contact in the entomology world, as I want to write a letter to the editor correcting what seems to me to be a stupid mistake. Thanks in advance. -- Charles "Stretch" Ledford STRETCH PHOTOGRAPHY "North America and the Entire World" http://www.StretchPhotography.com Article 27909 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: fermented_blood@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,soc.culture.chaldean,alt.solar Subject: SEA LICE INVADE BERING SEA Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 18:08:32 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <90ojmp$p2h$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <3A27AA6B.857434C@nconnect.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.143.236.110 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Dec 07 18:08:32 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x66.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 204.143.236.110 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDfermented_blood Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu alt.alien.visitors:329510 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27909 soc.culture.chaldean:18 alt.solar:75 RE: http://www.irysec.vic.edu.au/sci/goneill/muttonbird.htm Sea lice, which are really nematodes [mites], whirligig wormies, some smaller than nano tech elements or fungi spores, living in the thermal vents of volcanoes, are flushing out into the Bering Sea and killing off marine mammal life and good tasting oily fish life in huge huge numbers [holocaustic!]. Also see http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/aldebaran.html http://www.univaq.it/~sc_amb/copepod.html F.B. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 27910 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!algonet!news.tele.dk!130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!news.kdt.de!news.klaus-datentechnik.de!not-for-mail From: Brigitta Roulands Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bilder von Bienenkrankheiten Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 08:41:24 +0100 Organization: KDT and customers Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3A2F3F24.DEB55EE1@vz-nrw.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.8.243.21 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.kdt.de 976174888 25142 195.8.243.21 (7 Dec 2000 07:41:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@kdt.de NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Dec 2000 07:41:28 GMT To: "Koch, Harald" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27910 hallo Schatz, http://www.kohala.net/bees/index.html#anchor400987 Schau Dir das mal an Einen dicken Kuss Brigitta -- Verbraucher-Zentrale NRW Mintropstraße 27 40215 Düsseldorf Tel.: 0211/3809-0 Fax: 0211/3809-172 Article 27911 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.logical.net!not-for-mail From: "huestis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: queen rearing kits Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:54:28 -0800 Organization: Logical Net Lines: 14 Message-ID: <90o3uu$t68$1@newsfeed.logical.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.9.64 X-Trace: newsfeed.logical.net 976196382 29896 209.23.9.64 (7 Dec 2000 13:39:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@logical.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Dec 2000 13:39:42 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27911 Planning on starting rearing queens again this year. I have had a little experience rearing my own queens. Can members of the group tell of their experiences with queen rearing kits( tell witch one)? Tell advantages or disadvantages? Do you still use these kits or have you decided to just graft? I plan on rearing 100 - 300 queens a year. This will be integrated with over wintering nucs to replace winter loss or for sale. Also can someone tell me their preference of cell starters swarm box or free flying cell starter. Why? Also wanted good carniolan stock( not NWC). Thanks in advance. Clayton Huestis Crown Point, NY Article 27912 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!ldn-newsfeed.speedport.net!newsfeed.speedport.net!naxos.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.rediris.es!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!telenews.teleline.es!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A2F5CD1.57A2115E@islapro.com> From: islapro Reply-To: islapro@islapro.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,es,en-US,tr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Lavender Honey References: <3A2E15D6.1C0A7E5A@interact.net.au> <3A2E7A55.F22BFCBD@islapro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 17 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:52:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.166.159.224 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@company.com X-Trace: telenews.teleline.es 976182727 212.166.159.224 (Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:52:07 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:52:07 MET Organization: Typhoon Authentication Testing Club Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27912 I have not published the results, but here goes: 2 Acres of Lavandula dentata and Lavandula angustifolia (50-50). Flowering time 45 days, in my latitude. 14 Hives, of about 60.000 creatures each in excellent health, were capable of obtaining 4 Lbs. (1 1/2 Kilo) of honey per day per hive. When farming the Lavandula the have to wait for the full 45 days, to the farmer does not make a difference but to yes since can forage the full bloom. The majority of times one single flower-shoot is enough for a trip, no need to peck on different flowers. Best wishes from Mallorca, Spain. Jose Matas. Article 27913 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,soc.culture.chaldean,alt.solar Subject: Re: SEA LICE INVADE BERING SEA Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 22:54:55 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3a3014fb.123172628@news1.radix.net> References: <3A27AA6B.857434C@nconnect.net> <90ojmp$p2h$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p44.a4.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu alt.alien.visitors:329535 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27913 soc.culture.chaldean:19 alt.solar:76 On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 18:08:32 GMT, fermented_blood@my-deja.com wrote: >RE: http://www.irysec.vic.edu.au/sci/goneill/muttonbird.htm > >Sea lice, which are really nematodes [mites], whirligig wormies, some >smaller than nano tech elements or fungi spores, living in the thermal >vents of volcanoes, are flushing out into the Bering Sea and killing >off marine mammal life and good tasting oily fish life in huge huge >numbers [holocaustic!]. > >Also see > >http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html >http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/aldebaran.html >http://www.univaq.it/~sc_amb/copepod.html > >F.B. So what do you want us beekeepers to do? Send our used apistan strips over so you can throw them in the sea? beekeep Article 27914 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!cyclone.rdc-detw.rr.com!news.mw.mediaone.net!typhoon.mn.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Christopher Hadden" Newsgroups: rec.crafts.winemaking,rec.crafts.brewing,rec.food.historic,rec.org.sca,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: OT: rec.crafts.meadmaking Lines: 17 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 21:38:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.163.160.238 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.mn.mediaone.net 976225110 24.163.160.238 (Thu, 07 Dec 2000 15:38:30 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 15:38:30 CST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu rec.crafts.winemaking:65608 rec.crafts.brewing:247254 rec.food.historic:23596 rec.org.sca:310554 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27914 The results of the straw poll are in. The straw poll was taken during the week after Thanksgiving. The poll asked whether the respondent would read or use a group devoted to meadmaking; the result was 42 YES and 3 NO. Because Usenet traffic decreases over the holidays, Shane and I have decided to wait a month to issue the Request For Discussion (RFD) for rec.crafts.meadmaking. The Usenet volunteer who has been assisting us agrees. We want to make sure everyone has the chance to participate in the RFD process and if it comes to a vote, we don't want it to happen in the middle of the holiday. Regards, Christopher Hadden Shane Hultquist Article 27915 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!europa.netcrusader.net!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!news-out.digex.net.MISMATCH!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed4.news.digex.net!intermedia!news1.bms.com!not-for-mail From: Jesse Hunter Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Labels Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:13:50 -0500 Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb Company Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3A2FE16E.9B309D00@bms.com> References: <9ITW5.45942$nh5.3310979@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3A2C4899.AAF5B17C@gte.net> <90hima$179fq$1@ID-58605.news.dfncis.de> <90lgq5$c24$0@63.68.71.169> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsreader-hpw1.net.bms.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-BMY (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Cache-Post-Path: newsreader-hpw1.net.bms.com!unknown@a049508.syr.pgr.bms.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27915 you can also spray labels with lacquer. This will keep the waterbed inks from running and smearing when they get wet. Tim Arheit wrote: > On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:07:43 -0700, "Allen Dick" > wrote: > > >> Good luck in finding a label. I'm a small hobby beekeeper and I just got a > >> quote on 4 different professional labels. I about fell off the chair. It > >was a > >> little more than the pocketbook could take. I've decided to make my own > >but > >> using Microsoft works and using the gift tag wizard. It makes a nice label > >> that you can tie around the lid with a ribbon. > > > >I was wondering... I make mead labels and glue them onto bottles with a > >glue stick, but I've found all the printer inks I've found are water based > >and run if the label gets wet. > > > >What can be done? Spray them with a fixative? > > > >alle > > There use to be an "ALPS" printer that had pretty impressive color > output, though it was quite slow, and the quality of inkjets has > gotten better since. It used a wax transfer process (solid ink) that > was not water based. I don't know if it's available anymore. > > Color laser does better, but the printers are expensive. You might be > able to find someone to print them for you. My wife's office has one > and they are allowed to use it (but are charged per page, something > like 0.45 per page) > > -Tim Article 27916 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!logbridge.uoregon.edu!paloalto-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A30276A.1054DE03@gte.net> From: Chad Howell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD {GTE Internetworking} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,soc.culture.chaldean,alt.solar Subject: Re: SEA LICE INVADE BERING SEA References: <3A27AA6B.857434C@nconnect.net> <90ojmp$p2h$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3a3014fb.123172628@news1.radix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 X-Trace: /K+neRurmwPkWV2XI2Ac7w0M82Wqal81qHcwe0iV6w7m0WDYGUEJkxca8msOxMFJ2Tplr5+XxZDY!PBRdpCqT3FXQVXmFArkGB+0lHJpEtZtO2OsK78h4r2/gLg5L3YAsy8/apanyxw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@gte.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:10:55 GMT Distribution: world Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:10:55 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu alt.alien.visitors:329539 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27916 soc.culture.chaldean:20 alt.solar:77 Thats pretty funny beekeep. beekeep wrote: > On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 18:08:32 GMT, fermented_blood@my-deja.com wrote: > > >RE: http://www.irysec.vic.edu.au/sci/goneill/muttonbird.htm > > > >Sea lice, which are really nematodes [mites], whirligig wormies, some > >smaller than nano tech elements or fungi spores, living in the thermal > >vents of volcanoes, are flushing out into the Bering Sea and killing > >off marine mammal life and good tasting oily fish life in huge huge > >numbers [holocaustic!]. > > > >Also see > > > >http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html > >http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/aldebaran.html > >http://www.univaq.it/~sc_amb/copepod.html > > > >F.B. > So what do you want us beekeepers to do? Send our used apistan strips > over so you can throw them in the sea? > > beekeep Article 27917 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!feeder.qis.net!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp3.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A303922.863045E8@midwest.net> From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: SEA LICE INVADE BERING SEA References: <3A27AA6B.857434C@nconnect.net> <90ojmp$p2h$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 15 Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 19:28:02 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.65 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp3.onemain.com 976238785 208.235.28.65 (Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:26:25 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:26:25 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27917 fermented_blood@my-deja.com wrote: > > Sea lice, which are really nematodes [mites], whirligig wormies, some > smaller than nano tech elements or fungi spores, living in the thermal > vents of volcanoes, are flushing out into the Bering Sea and killing > off marine mammal life and good tasting oily fish life in huge huge > numbers [holocaustic!]. Wow! Puts that varroa thing in perspective huh? AL Article 27918 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp2.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A30CB7C.36F9C55E@together.net> From: michael palmer Reply-To: mpalmer@together.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: queen rearing kits References: <90o3uu$t68$1@newsfeed.logical.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 25 Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:52:28 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.231.24.217 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp2.onemain.com 976276140 206.231.24.217 (Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:49:00 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:49:00 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27918 Queen rearing kits are a waste. Grafting is just too easy. I found the best grafting tool is the cheap Chinese one. Push the tip down the side wall of the cell. It curves under the puddle of royal jelly, and scoops up the larvae. You don't even have to see the larvae to pick it up. I like free flying cell starter\ finisher. You don't need any extra equipment, and the colony can be placed back into honey production after about 3 weeks rearing queen cells. huestis wrote: > Planning on starting rearing queens again this year. I have had a little > experience rearing my own queens. Can members of the group tell of their > experiences with queen rearing kits( tell witch one)? Tell advantages or > disadvantages? Do you still use these kits or have you decided to just > graft? I plan on rearing 100 - 300 queens a year. This will be integrated > with over wintering nucs to replace winter loss or for sale. Also can > someone tell me their preference of cell starters swarm box or free flying > cell starter. Why? Also wanted good carniolan stock( not NWC). Thanks in > advance. > > Clayton Huestis > Crown Point, NY Article 27919 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!192.148.253.68!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help Me Correct New York Times Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 10:36:12 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 11 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27919 this topic came up on the bee-list a while back...see nature science update 24 may 2000 at: http://helix.nature.com/nsu/000525/000525-7.html Out of the strong came forth sweetness by HENRY GEE: "The mimicry between droneflies and honeybees has been fooling humans for over 2000 years,"...also see Conrad Berube's "THE BEE-RIDDLED CARCASS" for even more detailed discussion on this at: http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet/beestars.htm enjoy and good luck with the ny times! Article 27920 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: cetaceandragon@my-deja.com Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,soc.culture.chaldean,alt.solar Subject: Re: SEA LICE INVADE BERING SEA Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 18:33:12 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 104 Message-ID: <90r9h9$th9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <3A27AA6B.857434C@nconnect.net> <90ojmp$p2h$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3a3014fb.123172628@news1.radix.net> <3A30276A.1054DE03@gte.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.79.52.186 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Dec 08 18:33:12 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; AT&T CSM6.0) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x68.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 12.79.52.186 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDcetaceandragon Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu alt.alien.visitors:329629 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27920 soc.culture.chaldean:21 alt.solar:78 In article <3A30276A.1054DE03@gte.net>, Chad Howell wrote: > Thats pretty funny beekeep. > > beekeep wrote: > > > On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 18:08:32 GMT, fermented_blood@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > >RE: http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html http://www.irysec.vic.edu.au/sci/goneill/muttonbird.htm > > > > > >Sea lice, which are really nematodes [mites], whirligig wormies, some smaller than nano tech elements or fungi spores, living in the thermal vents of volcanoes, are flushing out into the Bering Sea and killing off marine mammal life and good tasting oily fish life in huge huge numbers [holocaustic!]. > > > > > >Also see > > > > > >http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html > > >http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/aldebaran.html > > >http://www.univaq.it/~sc_amb/copepod.html COPEPODES (e.g. sea lice, silk worms, cochinilla cochineal mites, varroa mites ... almost all cocooning and silk-spinning worms, lice, and mites, both visible and non-visible whirligigs] -->> seem to be at WAR with the HYMENOPTERA [fig wasps, ants, flying ants, and in some related fashion, rats, bats, and especially the Naked Mole Rat, that has a Colony of specialized drone workers, and a QUEEN!] Another interesting disease that follows fig groves is the FIG ENDOSEPSIS, which is caused by a FUNGUS that is carried by WASPS. The "Blastophaga psenes" wasp carries the "Fusarium moniliforme" fungus parasite. One theorist suggests that the wasps impregnate the still green figs with a single egg, thinking it is a customary living prey- host organism, in which it routinely injects its egg that lies dormant on the inside of the host until thousands of young are born, who then eat their way out of the living host. The fungus parasite above somehow gets a piggy back ride through this performance, it is suspected. It is a very ugly and nasty war ... here below are some of the stats! Don't feel sorry for EITHER of the sides though. Individually, and TOGETHER, these nematodes and hairy legged fliers PLAGUE humanity and have been the COLLAPSE of many many a HUMAN culture! Let's go on a tour!! Paraphrasing the above, ... DAPHNAE is getting under the skin of CHALCI !! Nematodean Ionians are in the TRACHEAS of Hymenopteran Aztecs! The Daphnians ABSOLUTELY adore VOLCANOES, and are really really into tie-dying [and tatooing]!! The Hymenopterans are indeed POLARIZED by graphite, gypsum, and vermiculite, ... show them a HEXAGRAM ... and you have a friend!! Give them a CARBOXYLIC ACID, like citric acid, which is actually a SYNTHETIC derived in the lab from lemon juice [and sugar cane molasses fermented by the ASPERGILLIS NIGER fungus!] and they will give you literal manna from heaven! Metal salts and asphalt are a good "offering" for desert! Unfortunate for the Hymenoptera, the Neocyclops [Nematodes] are much better swimmers [don't worry if you don't feel comfortable with either of these two Orders. The Neocyclopean sea lice are NO MATCH for Dolphins or Delpians! Atlantis WAS NOT completely destroyed ... many scientists report this daily now!]. Unfortunate for the wormey cyclops, they can't take the formic acid well at all that ants and other Hymenopterans can spit at them. The Carinae are even quite susceptible to lactic acid! There is a Water Wasp, but it basically skims like a teenager, after a storm in the deep southern states of the USA, on his/her skimboard. Don't EVER make a joke with a Hymenoptera about "hitching a ride". They are still sore over all those Varroan mites that are smaller than fungi spores [a few nanometers] and are killing off honey bees in Italy and all over the world. KEYWORD, HYMENOPTERA: Chromium KEYWORD, CARINAE [i.e. copepod, nematode, mite, Daphnian volcanoe species]: Cotton; Gun Cotton [the following is excerpted from "BIOQUAKE IN BERING SEA"] > > > > > >F.B. > > So what do you want us beekeepers to do? Send our used apistan strips > > over so you can throw them in the sea? > > > > beekeep > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 27921 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!not-for-mail From: John Edwards Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Junk Postings Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 15:16:29 -0700 Organization: Hayden Bee Research Center, USDA-ARS,Tucson, Arizona Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3A315DBC.26E0CB1F@tucson.ars.ag.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: feral-bee.tucson.ars.ag.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27921 I would like to see this group return to a higher level of subject matter. - J. Edwards, Tucson Article 27922 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Junk Postings Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 23:35:22 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3a31701c.8969286@news1.radix.net> References: <3A315DBC.26E0CB1F@tucson.ars.ag.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: p3.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27922 On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 15:16:29 -0700, John Edwards wrote: >I would like to see this group return to a higher level of subject >matter. > - J. Edwards, Tucson > But that would require a higher level of thought. beekeep Article 27923 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!uunet!ffx.uu.net!spool1.news.uu.net!spool0.news.uu.net!reader2.news.uu.net!not-for-mail From: "Spike Psarris" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <90o3uu$t68$1@newsfeed.logical.net> Subject: Re: queen rearing kits Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 18:05:25 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <3a3184a7$0$147@wodc7nh6.news.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.105.232.12 X-Trace: reader2.news.uu.net 976323751 147 63.105.232.12 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27923 This is completely off the topic, but... why don't you like NWC? Article 27924 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.logical.net!not-for-mail From: "huestis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: queen rearing kits Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 20:26:52 -0800 Organization: Logical Net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <90s29i$d08$1@newsfeed.logical.net> References: <90o3uu$t68$1@newsfeed.logical.net> <3a3184a7$0$147@wodc7nh6.news.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.11.130 X-Trace: newsfeed.logical.net 976325746 13320 209.23.11.130 (9 Dec 2000 01:35:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@logical.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Dec 2000 01:35:46 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27924 I love them. I am looking for non-NWC to cross with my NWC's to improve them for my area and to fit my needs. Spike Psarris wrote in message news:3a3184a7$0$147@wodc7nh6.news.uu.net... > This is completely off the topic, but... > > why don't you like NWC? > > Article 27925 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialup-lbb-0163.nts-online.NET!not-for-mail From: Charlie Kroeger Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help Me Correct New York Times Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 22:45:43 -0600 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: ckrogrr@frankensteinface.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-lbb-0163.nts-online.net (216.167.131.163) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 976337202 2518968 216.167.131.163 (16 [35320]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27925 >"Honeybees swarm her mouth and nostrils, searching for the eggs that >blowflies like to lay in the body's dark cavities." Take a letter Miss Quimby, New York Times: The type of bee you have described coming and going from that unfortunate woman's body was in fact a specialized 'honey' bee that has adapted to utilize the advantages dead humans, (which apparently can be found everywhere) offer by way of human specific maggots. The bees remove these specialized maggots to their hives to be used as 'slaves.' Young bees previously allocated to inhive duties within the bee's 'famous' division of labour can now be 'freed up' for more productive purposes like finding nectar and pollen. There is a similar bee that only collects and stores the remaining contents of old sugary soft drink containers. These bees have also been seen flying in and out of dead people who had not yet begun to decay. The forensics of this mystery are simple, the person died just after drinking a large sugary drink. and the bees are utilizing this windfall to their advantage. It is just another example of the wondrous diversity of nature. C.K. Article 27926 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.logical.net!not-for-mail From: "huestis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey vinegar Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:56:19 -0800 Organization: Logical Net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <90tamd$aqs$1@newsfeed.logical.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.11.40 X-Trace: newsfeed.logical.net 976367117 11100 209.23.11.40 (9 Dec 2000 13:05:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@logical.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Dec 2000 13:05:17 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27926 Hi, I would like to produce small quantities of honey vinegar. Could someone tell me how or direct me to a site that would? Due to the limited availability of this product I thought it would be a good item to sell. Any other info would be appreciated. Thanks. Clayton Article 27927 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!feeder.qis.net!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp1.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A327409.63DB0F08@midwest.net> From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Junk Postings References: <3A315DBC.26E0CB1F@tucson.ars.ag.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 12:03:53 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.76 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp1.onemain.com 976384987 208.235.28.76 (Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:03:07 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:03:07 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27927 John Edwards wrote: > > I would like to see this group return to a higher level of subject > matter. > - J. Edwards, Tucson Ya mean like Charlie's response to the New York Times??? :) AL Article 27928 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Midnitebee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3A315DBC.26E0CB1F@tucson.ars.ag.gov> Subject: beekeeping job Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:22:23 -0500 Lines: 31 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.161.21.67 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.161.21.67 Message-ID: <3a3277bf_1@news.cybertours.com> X-Trace: 9 Dec 2000 13:19:43 -0500, 208.161.21.67 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.98.63.6 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.cybertours.com!208.161.21.67 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27928 Greetings! We are unable to help this person. hopefully, someone on the list might bee of some help. Nikolay Gaidov E-Mail: nvalkov@yahoo.com Homepage Title: Homepage URL: http:// Referred By: Just Surfed In Location: Europa/Bulgaria Comments: HI site owner, Very nice site, really! When ours club made up a site will send it to you. I have a question: How/where I can find a job as a beekeeper in USA? I will be very grateful to you if you can help me. Thank you in advance. Herb/Norma Bee Holly-B Apiary PO Box 26 Wells,Maine 04090-0026 "an educated consumer is YOUR best customer" The Beekeeper's Home on the Internet http://www.mainebee.com Stony Critters http://www.stonycritters.com " Article 27929 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Midnitebee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: beekeeping job Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:27:08 -0500 Lines: 30 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.161.21.67 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.161.21.67 Message-ID: <3a3278dd_1@news.cybertours.com> X-Trace: 9 Dec 2000 13:24:29 -0500, 208.161.21.67 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.98.63.6 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.cybertours.com!208.161.21.67 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27929 Greetings! We are unable to help this person. hopefully, someone on the list might bee of some help. Nikolay Gaidov E-Mail: nvalkov@yahoo.com Homepage Title: Homepage URL: http:// Referred By: Just Surfed In Location: Europa/Bulgaria Comments: HI site owner, Very nice site, really! When ours club made up a site will send it to you. I have a question: How/where I can find a job as a beekeeper in USA? I will be very grateful to you if you can help me. -- Herb/Norma Bee Holly-B Apiary PO Box 26 Wells,Maine 04090-0026 "an educated consumer is YOUR best customer" The Beekeeper's Home on the Internet http://www.mainebee.com Stony Critters http://www.stonycritters.com Article 27930 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: queen rearing kits Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 18:38:06 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3a327b80.77422522@news1.radix.net> References: <90o3uu$t68$1@newsfeed.logical.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p23.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27930 On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:54:28 -0800, "huestis" wrote: >Planning on starting rearing queens again this year. I have had a little >experience rearing my own queens. Can members of the group tell of their >experiences with queen rearing kits( tell witch one)? Tell advantages or >disadvantages? Do you still use these kits or have you decided to just >graft? I plan on rearing 100 - 300 queens a year. This will be integrated >with over wintering nucs to replace winter loss or for sale. Also can >someone tell me their preference of cell starters swarm box or free flying >cell starter. Why? Also wanted good carniolan stock( not NWC). Thanks in >advance. > >Clayton Huestis >Crown Point, NY > > Try some of Busby's Carni's. He is in Angie, LA. 504 735-5330 They are really nice bees that put the NWC to shame. I kept them before I needed large winter populations. beekeep Article 27931 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!fr.clara.net!NiOuZphide.fr.clara.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!netnews.globalip.ch!news.vtx.ch!not-for-mail From: "Martin-Paul Broennimann" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Junk Postings Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:53:18 +0100 Organization: VTX Services SA Lines: 10 Message-ID: <90u9kk$sr69@news.vtx.ch> References: <3A315DBC.26E0CB1F@tucson.ars.ag.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: ge-dial-2-p49.vtx.ch X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27931 Well the best way is to make good input. High farting state of shock shouldn't help much... John Edwards a écrit dans le message : 3A315DBC.26E0CB1F@tucson.ars.ag.gov... > I would like to see this group return to a higher level of subject > matter. > - J. Edwards, Tucson > Article 27932 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: jduncan57@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Has Apicure solved packaging problem? Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 02:21:52 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <90upbs$fib$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.223.230.94 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Dec 10 02:21:52 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x61.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 208.223.230.94 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDjduncan57 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27932 Apicure was pulled off the market this year because of packaging problems and was expected to be selling by the beginning of next year. Does anyone know if they have solved their problems? When can we expect to be to purchasing again? I have not found a company web sight to find out the status. John Duncan Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 27933 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.logical.net!not-for-mail From: "huestis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Has Apicure solved packaging problem? Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:28:57 -0800 Organization: Logical Net Lines: 18 Message-ID: <90utq6$q68$1@newsfeed.logical.net> References: <90upbs$fib$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.10.50 X-Trace: newsfeed.logical.net 976419462 26824 209.23.10.50 (10 Dec 2000 03:37:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@logical.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Dec 2000 03:37:42 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27933 Call Bob Stevens at Betterbee and ask about apicure. Don't have the phone # at the moment. Clayton wrote in message news:90upbs$fib$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > Apicure was pulled off the market this year because of packaging > problems and was expected to be selling by the beginning of next year. > Does anyone know if they have solved their problems? When can we expect > to be to purchasing again? I have not found a company web sight to find > out the status. > > John Duncan > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 27934 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!news.eecis.udel.edu!xfer13.netnews.com!netnews.com!feeder.qis.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!nntp.gblx.net!news.frontiernet.net!not-for-mail From: Grinch@auuwbwejyv.org Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: *** F_U_C_K___C_H_R_I_S_T_M_A_S *** ................. unQN3m2r2B Date: 10 Dec 2000 03:58:17 GMT Organization: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. 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Article 27935 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!news-feed.nld.sonera.net!news.soneraplaza.nl!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A32C6D3.E3497BD@quicknet.nl> From: Hans Reply-To: 100661.2535@compuserve.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: bee stinger poison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 5 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:57:07 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.127.167.137 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonera.nl X-Trace: news.soneraplaza.nl 976406415 212.127.167.137 (Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:00:15 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:00:15 MET Organization: SoneraPlaza Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27935 Does anybody know, whether it's possible to purchace bee stinger poison. And if so, where this would be possible and how much it would cost? tnx in advance for any help Article 27936 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!feeder.qis.net!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp3.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A32D08E.E4FA3D31@midwest.net> From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Junk Postings References: <3A315DBC.26E0CB1F@tucson.ars.ag.gov> <90u9kk$sr69@news.vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 18:38:38 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.81 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp3.onemain.com 976408629 208.235.28.81 (Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:37:09 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:37:09 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27936 Martin-Paul Broennimann wrote: > > Well the best way is to make good input. High farting state of shock > shouldn't help much... eh? AL Article 27937 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bee stinger poison Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:41:30 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3a32debd.102828045@news1.radix.net> References: <3A32C6D3.E3497BD@quicknet.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: p22.a4.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27937 On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:57:07 +0100, Hans wrote: >Does anybody know, whether it's possible to purchace bee stinger poison. >And if so, where this would be possible and how much it would cost? > >tnx in advance for any help > I collect it. How much are you looking for? I sell it mixed with emu oil. You can buy it at www.beesinabottle.com beekeep Article 27938 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: lady_hillary@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.bio.entomology,alt.war,alt.alien.visitors,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: ALIEN INVASIONS OF GLOBAL PROPORTIONS Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:23:13 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <910l6u$ol2$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <20001130014912.01957.00005307@ng-ch1.aol.com> <90rb2i$uvg$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A3123DC.DF001756@bellsouth.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.78.196.84 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Dec 10 19:23:13 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; AT&T CSM6.0) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x73.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 12.78.196.84 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDlady_hillary Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.bio.entomology:77 alt.war:65925 alt.alien.visitors:329838 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27938 >RE: > http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html > >I found the above website extremely informative and easy to follow the >format. Did you really have problems waiting on the site to download >its graphics? I waited 3.7 seconds. For a good website I'm willing to >wait up to 60 seconds, the same amount of time that a TV ad drones on. >Usually 3 or 4 ads, actually, in a row for up to 4 minutes, of waiting >for the news to return. > >I never knew that mites are nematodes and that they spin cocoons made >of silk! Thank you for this insight. I had always considered head >lice to be insects. It's sad about the honeybees beeing infestated and invaded by varroa mites. Makes me want to wear a scarf around my trachea. > >Hillary > >http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html > >In article , > spammers-die-paghat@my-deja.com (paghat) wrote: >> In article <90rb2i$uvg$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, websterterrier@my-deja.com >wrote: >> >> > RE: http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/antares.html >> >> That page was designed by a moron. It's bad enough to be saddled with >> geocities as a host but then to put so many gif files on one page to >make >> a mistaken visitor wait five minutes for the download -- & that with >rapid >> DSL speeding it up. When it had loaded as far down as the Super Cooled >> Liquid Water there ... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 27939 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!csulb.edu!enews.sgi.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.bc.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.bio.entomology,alt.war,alt.alien.visitors,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: ALIEN INVASIONS OF GLOBAL PROPORTIONS From: here@my.com (The Scarecrow) Organization: e-spiritus unum X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) References: <20001130014912.01957.00005307@ng-ch1.aol.com> <90rb2i$uvg$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A3123DC.DF001756@bellsouth.net> <910l6u$ol2$1@nnrp1.deja.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 14 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:20:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.115.62.211 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.bc.home.com 976486828 24.115.62.211 (Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:20:28 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:20:28 PST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.bio.entomology:78 alt.war:65926 alt.alien.visitors:329851 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27939 Bush President Gore Vice President Leiberman Senator Cheney Cabinet Basically because Al Gore is probably one of the best vice presidents the country has ever had. Anything else in my mind, would be a loss. *** RwS Article 27940 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!sjc1.nntp.concentric.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail From: stargateopen@webtv.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Sugar Syrup?? Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:36:12 -0500 (EST) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 7 Message-ID: <9357-3A3459BC-110@storefull-258.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <20001205071957.22207.00003260@ng-da1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQFWiMiTSugBfq+XpO3h73CeUbk8gIUaN2fR/lYjYK6bSsuzKCYgKRzX78= Content-Disposition: Inline Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27940 I got this info from Brushy Mountain bee farm catalog. There are two basic formulas for sugar syrup; 1:1 for stimulation or 2:1 for winter stores. To make 1:1 syrup combine one pound of sugar with one pint of water. To make 2:1 syrup combine 5 pounds sugar with 2 1/2 pints of BOILING water. Always let syrup cool before putting on the bees. The best way to feed bees is on the inside of the hive. Article 27941 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feeder.via.net!nntp-relay.ihug.net!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail From: "m12345" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: US Market : Honey pricing Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 05:20:38 +1300 Organization: ihug ( New Zealand ) Lines: 6 Message-ID: <915jaa$dro$1@lust.ihug.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p12-apx1.akl.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 976638091 14200 203.173.192.12 (12 Dec 2000 16:21:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:21:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27941 Not so long ago someone here used to post regular updates on US honey market prices. Does anyone know website(s) where this sort of info can be obtained? cheers, mark Article 27942 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: frothymouth@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.bio.entomology,alt.war,alt.alien.visitors,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees supply clues to mysteries of RABIES?? Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:02:30 GMT Organization: Deja.com Lines: 75 Message-ID: <915p7g$p3d$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <20001130014912.01957.00005307@ng-ch1.aol.com> <90rb2i$uvg$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A3123DC.DF001756@bellsouth.net> <910l6u$ol2$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.78.242.75 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Dec 12 18:02:30 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; AT&T CSM6.0) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x65.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 12.78.242.75 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDfrothymouth Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.bio.entomology:79 alt.war:65928 alt.alien.visitors:329972 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:27942 RE: http://www.geocities.com/antarii_rescue/aldebaran.html Rabies is peculiar because the body may seem paralyzed, or even DEAD, yet the central nervous system is ALARMINGLY excited. If an infected or bitten person is not treated within 24 hours with a vaccine or serum, the PARALYSIS that mimics death [mentioned above] is almost certain. Most importan